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Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone. The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (embed) (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly.

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ

Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

Siegfried'd: >>159860963
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Luna is the cutest.
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http://pastebin.com/z1Xyiiif

For the people involved, tomorrow it's the tourney. Hope you won't forget. If we get 4 more we would reach a nice 16 participants.
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>trying to navigate jp sites to get some deck ideas with shitty google translate
>come across this

kek
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>How to make Rose Gardener viable

Make it so that she can return enemy's amulet too.
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Please just stop fucking talking about balance when you haven't even played long enough to have experience with/against most decks
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>play t2
>draft a decent deck
>play as good as i can
>4-1
>4-1
>4-1
>4-1
>4-1
LET ME WIN ONE FUCKING GAME MORE HOLY SHIT
WHY IS THE LIFE SO HORRIBLE
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>>159882005

It is just people's bias opinion. Nobody is prepared to master Dshift when it is the most potent sleep OP deck.
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>>159882173
Ocean floor city owner is cute! CUTE!
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>PLAYING HAVEN
>BTW SHITTING ON EVERYONE BECAUSE THERE IS NO COUNTER TO COUNTDOWN AMULETS
>20 WINSTREAK
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nth for 40+ packs without a legendary
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The percentage of complain posts has significantly risen since the steam launch. HS crybabies don't know how to deal with the meta, so they decide to blame others. Instead of proposing good cards, they want decent and interesting cards nerfed.
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>>159882454
>puts down ward in advance
>evolves fencer/paladin
>wins game
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>>159882548
That's only because all the thirsty fuckers going on about wanting to sleep with animated children were here already

Take them out and the post ratio is the same
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>>159882548
>It's okay for cards to be OP if they're interesting

If you can tell me that Ancient Elf and Garuda don't need adjusting, then you're full of it.
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Really makes you think.
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>>159882548
Because everyone else just gave up and started playing Heaven themselves.
It really is a great game when I'm doomed from the start just for playing a class I like, because it's nowhere near as good.
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Not sure what to do with Erasmus and Golem.
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>>159882548
Can't be helped, HS shitters will stay as shitters
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Does Cygames even care about balancing and expanding their game properly? Afaik they completely neglected the western release of Rage of Bahamut, no expansions/events, nothing, to the point of removing it from the store completely, while the Japanese one is still going strong. Hopefully this doesn't happen. Tbh I don't know what to think of Cygames.
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>>159882687
Garuda isn't even that good for his cost
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>>159882340
iktf
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>>159882732
Make Earthmemes and have fun.
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>>159882578
>Evolves paladin
>Into amulets
>Evolves fencer
>Into cudgel/themis
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>>159882780
I don't know if you're baiting or just a D0 shitter.
Garuda is disgustingly overstated.
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I love going 2nd because it means I'm going to win. An extra card AND an extra evolve? That's basically two cards up on my opponent.
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>>159882005
because it's meta defining moreorless

the fact those have to tech and adjust to it shows how much it's respected
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>>159882687

Ancient elf's power level significant drop down after turn 3. Garuda is pretty bad for the meta though I agree.

>>159882717

RIP shadowcraft.

>>159882776

SV jp and SV en are using the same server and share the playerbase.


Seriously. There should be a cheaper way to banish amulet than an 8 mana card with a terrible body. Also more control cards for shadow and blood.
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>>159882881
That's an evolve after the amulets pop and I'm playing control you idiot themis helps me and cudgel can't banish five health.
So the best case scenario for you is that cudgel resets some of the board after you lose the amulets, a delay which again helps control get to lategame and win
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>>159882548
It was to be expected, steam babies will stay steam babies.
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>>159883051
Well, according to
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/eila-bishop-measures-list/

There are cheaper ways like Carnivorous Flower, Gerywen and Dragonrider Devil

However, their stats kind of suck but who knows if its actually an acceptable statline or not given their fanfare
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>Enstatued Seraph
You would think all the aggro decks would rape this meme out of Havenshitters, but no.
So I get to lose to this shitty card because my deck is fair
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>>159882976
>Garuda is disgustingly overrated.
fixed
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>>159883102
>get to lategame and win

Not with that seraph plus three cooldown reductions next turn you won't :^)
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>>159882147
When does sign up end?

I don't want to sign up now because I only started playing recently so it wouldn't be right for me to take a spot from someone who's been here a while, but if there is still room right before the deadline I'll join in.
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Should I sit on my Pluto or just dust her?
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>>159883102
>Playing "control" sword
>Go first
>Lose
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>>159882776
It's popular in nipland, the feefees of westerners don't matter to them.
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>>159882780
6 for a 4/4 is about 1/1 below average, but he has an effect that may as well read "end the countdown of an ally amulet" as well as 3 free face damage.

Considering Aria exists, that's pretty fucking significant. He could stand to have the face damage altered or made conditional because as he's trying to act like he's from Forestcraft with how much he gives.

>>159883051
AE's power does NOT drop after turn 3, what are you on? Hell, Forest gets the ability to throw some faeries down then drop her without letting you respond, forcing you to throw removal/an evolve point at it. Which while that could be said for any ward, most other wards don't get buffed to high hell upon entry.
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>execute vampiric fortress
the plays

>>159883280
Yeah mate a control deck with a billion fucking wards really suffers from going first and starting with board control
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>>159882705
what did they mean with this
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Can you drop below a rank?
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>>159883420
Only numbers, never letters.
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>>159883420
You can drop number ranks but not letters

So you can fall from B3 to B0 but you can't fall from B0 to C3
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So does Alexander not fit in mid range sword?
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>>159883349
>A deck that has no way to fight back for the board without the extra evolve

good luck
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>>159883492
I got btfo'd by him a couple of times.
He's essentially an 8 mana board clear
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>>159883476
>>159883448
Fuck. You mean once I'm at a high rank I can never play shitters for easy wins again? wtf i hate ranked now
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>>159883448
>>159883476
so at what rank do people get stuck forever
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>>159883337

Arturia is even more cancerous than AE.
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>>159883590
You start getting major points loss at B but A feels like the sticking point
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>>159882656
>>159883463
Post deck anons
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>>159882468
I didn't even get 1 gold in the 5 free packs
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>>159883590
This game is pretty balanced so I can't imagine there's such a rank unless you're truly terrible
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Does linking Steam+phone together work for the 3 ticket mission? Its been almost 24 hours.

Or do I need to link to something else?
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>tfw getting the hand and deal 20 damage before evolves.
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>>159883717
Link mobile to facebook or whatever. The mission requires you to use Service Link, which is only available on the mobile version for some godawful reason.
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>>159884070
google or facey book iirc
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>>159884090
the fuck? so how do you get it to appear
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>>159884090
>>159884161
Thanks.
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>>159883190

Most of them just destroy the amulet. It is not good against countdown amulet. If execution can banish amulet I would run it instead of dance of death.
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So I'm still pretty new and found my self enjoying ramp dragon. I've been working on this midrange deck for the last two weeks or so since I started. I would enjoy a bit of input on my list so far. I'm really enjoying the imprisoned dragons and Goblinmounts, but there have been a couple games where DoD has ruined my tempo with them. If I could get some tips on what cards to aim for next or what changes could be made with some more basic cards it would be much appreciated.
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Is it right to still run multipart experiment in Earth Rite over Scrap Iron because later on you would rather not use board space on a 0-2?
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>>159883238
There's no deadline desu, if you wanna come after the tourney started and there's still a spot left\time for you to play in the first round of elimination just hop in.

Plus i wouldn't bother about "taking a spot", if you feel like it would be fun for you just join. I put the limit to 16 only to even the groups.
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What's the quickest/easiest way to link from steam? I don't have a phone/tablet, bluestacks seems sketchy as fuck.
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>>159884086
Wait, how?
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>>159884309
>multipart
>ever
Scrap is not very good, yes
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>>159884438
I meant Commence Experiment, got the names mixed up
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>>159884475
If you run fate's hand maybe.
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Spells counting toward p2p is horeshit

There's no way to outrace it
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>>159884526
30 shadows are hard to get
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>>159884426
2 wraight + 2 wolf + 2 claw, I drew the 2 claws.
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>>159884597
No they aren't, altered fate is 10
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>>159883765
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.3.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.62XJ-.62XJ-.66IXe.66IXe.66IXe.61QWQ.62U9K.62U9K.62U9K.66NA2.66NA2.66NA2.5-gka.5-gka.5-gka.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gku.5-gku.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UOA.62UOA.62XKI.62XKI.61Q1A.61Q1A.62U9y.62bTS.62bTS.62Z12.62Z12.62Uta.62Uta.62Uta.66NvE#
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which?
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>>159884426
Wraith>Wolf>Wraith+Wolf>double Claw
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>>159884698
left of course
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>>159884629

That is when the stars aligned
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>>159884698
left
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>>159884597
No they are not.
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>>159884607
Hmm let's see

Turn 1: 1 damage
Turn 2: 3 damage
Turn 3: 6 damage
Turn 4: 4 damage + 6 damage

Well that sounds about right
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>win 1 match as bloodcraft
>hate bloodcraft
>don't have bloodcraft cards
>don't give a fuck about bloodcraft
>20 rupies
>reroll
>win 5 matches as bloodcraft
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Is queen vampire good? I got an animated one and that would be a lot of dust if it wasn't worth keeping.
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Anyone wanna concede to me in a private match for the daily?

Match ID 26800

Will concede back for you if you also need it.
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>>159884863
Yes

Run in most control blood decks
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>>159884863
>dusting animated cards
>dusting animated legendary cards
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>>159884847
Accept the dark side. You know you want it.
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There's no worse feeling.

>fell for the storm haven meme
>bad draws
>the inferior shit deck gets a chance
>still bad draws
>lose game you theoretically could win easily

Fuck card games man. I want 70%+ win rates. Why is it that I still lose almost every second match because of bad draws. I'm rocking the elite build (PtP forest aside). You fucking niggers don't deserve this. I PAID FOR THIS!
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>>159884935
Thanks anon.
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>>159885027
Eh, even according to shadowrecords, Storm Haven only has like...51-52% win rate overall
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>Take two
>18 fucking 2 drops
>Draw all my 5+ drops
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>>159885027
Hey, guess what, you die to every decent aggro deck in the game, sword, dragon and bats can all shit down your throat no problem, then there's elves.
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>>159885027
>I PAID FOR THIS!

If you really do pay for a digital card game I feel bad for you
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>>159885165
>Take 2
>Only one 2 drop
>Draw it every game
>5-0 because i have fuckton of lategame

Sometimes lucky i guess
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>>159885115

That's the problem, even the best of the best decks don't go about 60. That's a good sign though if I'm supposed to be honest. Actually...

I like it. Shadowverse might actually be a good game.

I'm mad regardless. WHY CAN'T I AUTO WIN.
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are there any good resources for learning tempo forest? I've never bothered with the craft before
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>>159883792
are you a haven shitter
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>>159883197
Nigga it's a turn 9-12 win con don't complain you're slow as shit
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>>159885331
Play banner memes or tempo forest then
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>>159885414
Are you implying Haven doesn't have the means to stall forever
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>>159885441

Do banner memes actually surpass storm memes in win percentage? I don't think they do?
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>>159885512
they win against them which is a huge plus
the downside is that you have to play a shitload of mirrors and lose to every other sword deck
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3 MANA
NEUTRAL SPELL
BANISH
ENEMY
AMULET
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>>159885470
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>bullying people in D with bat memes
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FUCKING FINALLY
I don't think I could have taken another stream of dshit.
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>>159885595
I don't think you realize how shit that would be
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>>159885512
Yes, Banner is faster than you because it doesn't spend the first 3 turns doing nothing.
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>>159885630
>posting uncensored Isabelle
Absolute madman
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>>159885564

Well that may be true if compared directly, but if we consider the other matchups I think garuda memes will prove stronger still.
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>>159883370
Yuri
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Would dragonsong flute be good if it had storm on the hell flames instead of rush?
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>>159885704
Trump won, you have nothing to fear anymore.
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i made a thing for you guys
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>>159885767
>3 mana
>Better rose queen

Seems right
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>>159885767

>2 mana 4/3

>Turn 8 you can have 4 on the board from hand, dealing 16 damage to face

Gee, I wonder why it is rush instead of storm.
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>>159885767
It would be good if it worked without overflow. 4/3s rush for 2 PP for the rest of the game would be a sight to see.
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>>159882776
RoB was handled by a completely different company here. CyGames itself has given amazing Western support to it's games so far.
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>Shit connection causes to skip amazing trades
>End up falling ridiculously behind
>Rush in too quickly and evolve Otohime's guard instead of Otohime
>Leonidas swooces in to carry my ass
Based Leo
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Need someone to let me win on a private match.
Match ID: 13946
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Why don't they have rank resets?
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>>159885848
needs more skellies on the twisted side
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yfw next expansion makes haven even better
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>>159886116
Makes ladder more tolerable to new players.
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discord where?
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>>159886116
Because this isn't Hearthstone.
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>>159886179
there is no discord
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>>159885717
idk, in B you get a sword player every third or fourth game and 85% of them play banner
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>>159886183
duelyst have rank resets too
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Luckiest gook faggot ever, fucking sword fags should die. Getting perfect curve decks, unbelievable. These memes should die.
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>>159883337
AE just get dance of deathed after turn 5. You can't really afford to only have it on the board.
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When will they announce the winner of 30k vials? Or is it just a hoax?
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>>159886183
Rank resets just makes sense.
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>>159886382
no they don't, not at all
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>>159886328
I'd happily trade an Ancient Elf for a DoD. Especially since that leaves the tempo back in my favour as I drop all my creatures that I picked up back down.
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It's 0:00 AM and Luna offers to sit on your face, but for every 2 hours you have to lose a bodypart. How do you look like in the morning?
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>>159886116
Because having to regrind is a pain in the ass, if you want to grind get to Masters.
>>159886287
Leonidas into Leonidas after you kill the first Leonidas is the best meme.
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>>159886350
You don't usually announce the winner publicly for contests like these
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>>159886476
Normal because I only have her do it for an hour.
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>>159886476

Here's your (you)
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>>159886382
No they don't. Rank resets increase the amount of grinding players who're already proven have to do, increasing the difference time makes on ladder further. They throw new players in with the sharks, and they discourage people from finding new things because they need to get the minimal climb out of the way each season to begin testing properly. There are no advantages to them.
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>Shit connection but scraping by
>Suddenly instant concede
Fucking great, wouldn't be so mad if it weren't T2
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>>159886382
Rank resets don't, the big issue is unranked taking your rank into consideration when matching people up.
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>tfw you manage to grind someone out in arena
Poor Rowen
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>>159886476
Can I choose which parts I lose?
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>>159886476
I slit her petite throat and proceed to have my way with her corpse while it's still warm.
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>>159886584
You can test in low ranks and see how far you get with that deck. Right now rank has no meaning other than showing off how big your digital penis is and slowing down your rank score grind.
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>>159886748
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is the phantom howl + spirit cycle interaction a little digusting or just me?
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>>159886748
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>>159886716
She feels generous today so yeah, sure.
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>>159886839
not as disgusting as pre nerf harvest festival
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>tfw pulled my third legendary in 2 days
Holy fuck, it's my first copy and it's animated!
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>>159886907
Neat, I can live without an ear.
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Best pack I got in a while, 4 dupes, free 250 vials, a animated Dire Bond and my third Themis.
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>>159886996
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>>159886996
That's a pretty nice pack in general.
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need a runecraft win, 10318
thanks lads
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fuck off dude
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>tfw you replace the wrong mission
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>>159882468
Show the evolved form please and thank you, I Fucking love animated cards In one of the 5 packs the entire pack was filled with silver and gold Animated cards it was REALLY nice and hyped for me
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Saw a vid of a jap choosing draft picks based solely on the lewdity of the cards and he won 4 matches; think I might try it myself.
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tfw keep confusing how effects work with another card game and it's making me make mistakes
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Need a concede
12881
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>pulled animated forte
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>>159887451
kys you fucking cock sucker i hate you so much
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what are the chances?
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>>159887451
I hope my third forte will be animated too.
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Why do you guys call everything a meme?
Are you too young to realise how idiotc you sound or do you actually believe you're being funny? - which would make you even stupider. This place is cringier than reddit now.
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>>159887747
im tired of this meme
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>>159887589
https://steam.shadowverse.com/drawrates?pack_id=10001
It's extremely low. I bet it's as low as getting a full animated pack but i'm too lazy to do calculations.
>>159887747
Get memed on, kid
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is there a way to have the commander/officer icons permanently shown?
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Does anyone have a list of cards that are basically dust?
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>>159887968
Reddit has a liquefy guide
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>>159887747
Nice cringe meme redditbro you earned that reddit gold.
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>>159888137
earn THIS *grabs dick*
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>Comeback against a perfectly curved Tempo Elf
THANK YOU ATOMY.
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Need private match concede: 92193
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>Great deck
>Lose because shit draws and Haven had 3 Arias in his opening hand
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>>159888282
dicks out for harambe xd
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>opponent plays Mord and a 5/6 ward next turn
>disconnects

easy 4-1
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Great fucking arena run.
How did I even manage to get two wins?
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Kripp is playing Shadowverse tonight
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>>159888454
Is he still playing DS rune ?
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>>159885809
>Trump won, you have nothing to fear anymore.
Yeah Evangelical christians are really keen on nudity
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>>159887183
desu I would have loved president "JEB!"
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>>159887307
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>>159888758
Thank you Anon. My goodness thats beautiful jesus I Wonder who made all the animated Variants because they did a damn good job
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>>159888454
>g-guys they don't pay me anymore I swear
>#ad
Le lying romanian man.
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>opponent plays Olivia in t2
>loses anyway and it's not close
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Someone need to get us some good concepts about how to build good decks like a necromancer one, earth signel or other legendary-centered, because anything aside from the norm just end ups subpar when compared to any variations/top tier decks.
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>>159887817
My full animated pack
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>>159884289
I'm somewhat new myself, but I'm also loving dragon craft. It reminds me of G/R from MtG.

1. Do you usually find yourself not being able to finish out your game with big drops? 11 2-drops with no cycling seems a little off to me. And what i mean by cylcing, is that dragoncraft has a lot of ways to discard low cost cards in turn how higher cost ones. You have a decent amount of ramp (gaining play orbs), so you should be able to get to your higher mana cards a little easier.

2. Make room for 3 dragon warriors. Not only is the name a shameless reference, but the evolve for 3 damage is too good to pass up, imo.

3. Don't worry about a single type of card giving you trouble. DoD/Execution/any other 5ish mana kill card is going to exist- it's not very niche. Some decks are going to just have a bad time versus certain cards or decks. As long as you don't feel at a disadvantage against a large variety of decks, that's a good sign.

Once again, I'm somewhat new myself, so some of this advice might be flat out wrong. These are just some different points of view, so do with them as you will. Good luck out there!
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>>159888897
He literally said they are paying him to stream it. He said something along the lines of enjoying the game and that they want to keep paying him to play it, so it's a win-win for both parties.
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Okay You cant really see it well enough but they are animated I promise you
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Would it be better to build Control Sword when I already have a Royal Banner Sword deck or to branch out and make something for a different craft so I can more easily finish my dailies?
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>When you topdeck Rhinoceroach for lethal when they're 1 turn away from Exodia popping
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Need a concede
84502
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>>159882018
I heard this general had a discord link, anyone have it?

Why is that shit not somewhere in the OP?
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>>159888897
He didn't say that, he just said that he wanted to play it regardless after the Steam launch. But because of Blizzcon he only had time for like one stream. And now it seems they're paying him for another stream.
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>>159889146
i cant see it at all
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>>159889178
Thank you based anon.
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You guys think we'll get any new classes next expansion? Or do you think they'll hold them off for later?
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>>159888897
i remember when hafu was playing a random shit game and said that she wasnt paid, then after the chat didnt believe her she said "i will do a sponsored stream of this next week, but right now im not obligated to play the game."
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when are they gonna add instant speed spells
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>playing against runecraft
>it's clear he doesn't use dshift

LOL might as well concede brah.
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Is Garuda too strong? It's, like, a demonic strike (4pp spell) to the face and a Hallowed Dogma (2pp spell) plus one more countdown reduction and a decent 4/4 body, all for the single price of the 5,99 pp. Seems too good to be honest.
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>>159889072
I would love to get more cycling, but I feel like it would cripple me early game if I got rid of too many early game cards. I'm not sure how to make room for the dragon warriors other than dropping Urds. I have a really bittersweet relationship with Urd. It's won me games by using it on Forte, Gil and Genesis for a second attack, but there have been a lot of games where I draw it and it's simply a 3/3 for 4. The same argument can be made for my boy siggy, but most of the time I can at least blow his effect on a small damage creature for a bit more board control.
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>>159889381
>online
>instant

choose one
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concede pls
16093
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>>159889459
He is definitely a little too strong. If he was toned down slightly, he'd be perfect.
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Never will get used to opening packs, I only seem to get something nice when I least expect it. Like I recently opened several packs and didn't get anything good, but just opened two random packs and got two leggos back to back.

It's weird but feels great.
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>>159889470
It works well enough in magic. Being able to do stuff outside of your own turn is interesting.
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which crafts should i avoid in take 2
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>>159889268
Sorry I thought I took a good screenshot brb lemme take a better one Oh and heres my Luna run in Take two, every match had OP as heck Havens and swordcrafts They got their lethal shit so fast and faced my loli butt to the earth and it just pissed me off alot
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>>159889586
Rune
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>>159889586
Rune for sure. Forest and Blood are also bad ideas.
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>>159889617
>People say Rune sucks
>Consistently go 4-1 and have multiple 5-0s with Rune
I think Rune is actually quite good and people just suck at drafting/playing Rune in t2. Meanwhile my last Sword and Shadow run both went 3-2.
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>>159889335
My prediction is that there will never, ever be a new class
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>>159889486
(gasp)
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So if we both lose at the exact same time, we both win?
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>>159889486
thanks, my dude
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>>159889584
Magic online is a pain in the ass to not only play, but I'm sure instants won't work in a setting like Shadowverse/Hearthstone. Secrets or trap like spells would really be the only effective way to interact on your opponents turn in a game like this. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge blue MtG player. But, I just don't see it working out
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>>159887589
3 leggos in a single pack?
~0.017%
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>>159889198
Anyone?

Pls respond
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>>159889765
They've already gone on record as saying that there will be more classes, but no story for them.
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>>159889459

Garuda is not the problem, it's face damage actually. Ward should prevent direct face damage. The storm haven deck is only S tier because of moon and the face wreckage it allows for.
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>>159889335
Even Hearthstone never got a new class, so I doubt it. Any new mechanics you could probably just slap onto one of the other crafts.
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>>159889796
Posting all my animated cards
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>>159889468
Well that's the thing- ypou don't cycle till around turn 4 or 5 or so, when you wanna start dropping the big boys. I learned that the hard way. cycling too early means you won't be playing anything for 3-4 turns.

Also, I just looked up Urd. She looks super fun to play- definitely keep that over dragon warrior, i guess. That has insane potential
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>>159889459
there is no reason garuda should do 3 damage
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>>159889875
>Ward should prevent direct face damage.

Just say "I don't like aggro."
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>>159889875
>Ward should prevent direct face damage.
No, fuck no, you're killing any possibility of actual spell burn decks in the future.
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>>159889949

Liquefy time.
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>>159888897
I'm pretty sure streamers have to disclose that they are sponsored. He's only streamed two SV sessions which weren't sponsored.
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>>159890019
>Liquefying animated cards
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Just reached AA0. Do i get a popular twitch stream for internet dosh now?
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>>159889834
That interview answer was kind of ambiguous. I read it as meaning new leaders for the existing crafts.
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>>159884289
>>159889468
Looks pretty good. What other dragon cards do you have?

Consider some Unicas since they are very good against early aggro. 3 Genesis is a little too much I think since they are so expensive, and I think most decks run 2 Blazing Breath, so you might make room for her.

Here's my own WIP ramp dragon:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.5_394.5_394.65BUS.66giC.66giC.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.62tHw.62tHw.62sZM.62sZM.62sZM.62v0O.62v0O.61PnY.61PnY.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66j8S.61NLm.61NLm.62xRs.62xRs.62xRs.62zty.62zty.66laY.66laY.65GMy.65GMo.62zto.66lqK.62xRi.62xRi.62sac.66j8S.62sac.65BUS
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Come challenge the wall

27570
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>>159889949

there we go


>>159890019
Ummm Are you sure I should?? I dont really want to because these are nice and fun to look at and use
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>>159890003
>>159890014

Well I just dislike meme decks that ignore everything you do and lethal you on turn x if they draw as they are supposed to. I want to actually play against my opponent and am against auto pilot decks.
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>>159890176
>I just dislike meme decks

Literally stopped reading. Either talk like you're not autistic or don't talk at all.
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>>159889468
The only discard dragon card worth running is scholar and I wouldn't run her outside of face dragon.
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>>159890081
Many of animated cards looks like shit to be honest. Unless it's Medusa's Gaze.
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>>159889776
Turn player loses if they make a suicide play.
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I got to rank A. Am I considered a non-scrub yet?
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Does anyone else fucking despise Timeworn Mage levi?
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>>159890273
he's a crazy value card
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>>159890081

They are double the value.
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>>159890115
only if you're cute
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I miss this
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>>159890243
Or this beauty
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>>159890273
He's just a mage.
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>>159890243
I want Medusa to gaze at my dick until it explodes.
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>>159890294
I don't mean in a "he's shit way" I mean more in a "why did they print a 3pp dragon warrior" kind of way.
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>>159890243
I have that one and its great
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>>159890273
He's basically a Dragon Warrior with 1 less health + spellboost when evolved for 3 mana.

Rune would be even more fucked in this meta without him.
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>>159890383
yeah I was just agreeing with you
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>>159890243
You seen giant slayer? Her ear is flapping like crazy. It looks retarded. I'd make a webm if that stupid xbox recording stuff wouldnt act up.
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>>159889586
Rune, Forest and Blood, Haven can be a brick too.
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>>159890223

You're actually right. Sorry. I have no idea how one could create a different system. I guess it's fine the way it is. Well fuck me. I have no clue how card games work and admit it.
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Can I get a concede please?
81377
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>>159890170
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What did cygames mean by this?
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>>159889673
>>159890501
>forest
>bad in t2

Stop it
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>>159890140
I used to run Unicas, but I replaced them with mushus. Unicas felt like 2/2s with taunt in a lot of games, but mushu feels like 2/2 with taunt and a lot of offensive power.
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>>159890273
Nah, but there was a game where the dude opened with 3 of him and evolved all of them, lost miserably because fucking hell, can't deal with all that value back to back.
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>>159890578
Thank you Vaniabro
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>>159890619
They're bad famalam, too reliant on it's legends and certain cards like fairies.
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>>159890613
>algorithm
They mean heuristic
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>>159890656
>that dude at the bottom
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>tfw when you don't draw any Fortes for 5 games in a row and lose when she could've won it
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>>159890624
You're running ramp, you run both.
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>>159890656
That stupid fucking face in the evolution art is killing me every time i see it
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>>159890656
That dudes a pokemon breeder at the bottom his headbands the top half of a pokeball
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>>159890746
>I am angry. Angry about elves.
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>>159890737
Am I too light on early game?
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>>159890498
>>159890243
managed to get it working. Fucking adobe aftereffects, how does it work?
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>Haven shitter loses after cudgeling my evolved Hell's Unleasher on turn 4
Might as well kill yourself now if you're this bad at card games
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>>159890698
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>Not safe at 14 hp at turn fucking 8 with a taunt up all, because of a splashable 2 PP follower that's good in every situation
Roach is the dumbest fucking card I've ever seen in a CCG that wasn't emergency banned in a month.
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>>159890624
Yeah, but I find that super aggressive decks like bats or face dragon will often ignore Mushu for at least the first 1-2 turns and hit face anyway, while Unica forces it.

I would really run both but I'm having trouble trying to find space. It's just that you could easily switch out a Blazing Breath and Genesis for at least 2 Unicas in your own deck, so I thought I'd bring it up.
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this is your opening hand tonight
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>>159890873
I win games off of bouncing Tias than from roach. It's mostly removal more than half the time.
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>>159890886
Ok, I will keep that in mind, it's rare that I have a game where I have needed more than 2 Genesis, but I like how consistently I draw them with 3.
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>>159890961
Can you tell me what Hare of Illusions does?? Im not a havencraft player didnt even do her story yet im on Rowens right now
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Can I build any decks with this reroll? Not sure if the card quality is good enough.
Dragonsong Flute and Zimitra are animated, is it safe to liquefy them?
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>>159890832
Someone in the Cygames looked at it and thought that it looks good enough to add it to the game.
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>>159891042
it summons a weak follower whose last word summons the amulet again
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>>159890613
>I need help with a project
>don't ask what the project is
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>>159890154
The wall has been defeated by a wall

looking for more matches

37551
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>>159891042
it summons a 1/2 with ward that summons the hare of illusion amulet on death. It's like mordecai, except it sucks.
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>>159891085
Yat least you won't be seeing it up close for long since it's a spell.
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>>159891086
Oh wow that sounds pretty good
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>>159891042
bad recursive minion
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>>159891086
>wabbit is bronze
>amulet is golden
triggered desu
also it's not that weak, it stops 13/13s just fine
>>159891042
it's an infinite value follower as long as you don't brick your board
also you get more out of your aoe countdown reset and can always draw with hallowed
but it isn't t1 good
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Way too close
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>>159891285
>>159891181
>>159891265
Ah okay Hey is mordecai A mandatory Shadowdeck addition?? I only have one though
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>>159891176
The only reason I won might be because I went second.
It's especially relevant during mirror matches.
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Should I remove Unica and 1 Fervid for 2 Courageous Knights? I saw some midrange lists run them.


Also should I craft the 3rd legos or hope to eventually pull them?
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>>159891370
He's not really relevant now at all. He's a great card but the meta makes him difficult to run.
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>>159891370
He sees play in control shadow, but the deck is expensive to make and of questionable strength
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>>159889875
Face damage from spells and effects is supposed to be one of the counterplay options to wards/blockers.
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>>159891370
It's way too slow for the meta.
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>>159890154
>Someone else decided to crop out smug skellington
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>>159891462
What are all those spells? R u fucking mage or what? Get more comrades and friends, holy shit.
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Why does otohime look so sad when she's evolved..Is it because she knows she is gonna be attacked and possibly killed??
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>>159891621
>>159891478
lul
Shadow shits all over fast decks anyway, Mordecai helps against the actually difficult matchups
>>
>arena
>opponent has seraph, odin and iridescent dragon

how the shitting fuck
>>
I want to try midrange sword, but can only afford aggro blood or storm haven

what do
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>>159891462
Take out the Unica, you aren't control.

Also either take out Pompous Princess or add 2 Quickbladers.
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>>159891713
Sad because she realized how shitty her guard selection actually is.
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>>159891462
>No Alwida's command
>>
I want to link the game so i get a new slot but my phone literally doesn't have space to DL the game for now. If I use an amulator to link now, I will not be able to use the same account on my phone later, will I?
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>>159891713
She's pouting. Read her flavor text.
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>>159891772
Save up and wait

You can make banner since it shares a lot of cards
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>>159891462
>no quickblades

Bitch please.
Pompous princess into quickblade is the best combo in the game because of the voicework, rock hard every time.
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>>159891821
Another thing that bugs me..why dont her guards have ward?? they are only 1/2 that wouldnt be too OP
>>159891858
I dont have the card..I would love to read it if you are willing to post it
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>>159891821
It's her fault she hires guards based on height and not skill.
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>>159891713
She's not sad, she's pouting.
That's like the default thing princesses do in jap land.
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>>159891834
Just get the link code and you'll be fine
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>>159891754
How do we explain his almost complete exclusion from the meta and that he drags down win rates against your worst match ups?
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>>159891778
>>159891873
I find quickbladers not worth it, I'd rather have the extra health of the Vanguard, though it's a good thing to consider.
Also Pompous' make sure I don't draw dead 1-drops later on so I don't want too many of them. I fucking love how much fetch this deck has.
>>159891827
I'm still a poorfag, and I've no idea what to switch her out with.
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>>159891981
Yeah, because a 3/4 that makes four 1/2 wards for 6 PP is totally not broken.
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when do i get my daily 40 gold reee
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Kill me, should I just suicide now or what? nice 0/5 deck
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>>159892002
>he drags down win rates against your worst match ups?
No he doesn't???
Haven is the worst matchup and if they happen to have a banish that late in the game he's still at least a 2 for 1
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I fuckin' give up on Take Two! It just seems to force me to make a shitty deck and then get fucked in the ass for 5 matches straight! There's no fuckin' consistency. At least if you make a shitty deck and take it to a single one-on-one you know it's a mistake soon enough, you don't need to ponder it for 4 more matches after that. Jesus fuckin' christ. Please tell me that in ranked you can at least play with your own decks? I haven't tried that shit-show yet.

This is just killing any interest i have on the game.
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>>159892175
Leo is good in T2.
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>>159892175
Jesus. At least right is usable, just pray you never draw front lines, or if you do it's in the first hand.
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>>159892178
How is he a 2-for-1 if he gets banished?
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>>159891981
I'll bet you anything that they originally had it but got nerfed.
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>>159891176
The wall has lost to a skeleton
Looking for one last match, same ID
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>>159892264

convert the tickets to packs.
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>>159892264
Take 2 is just a glorified pack/daily simulator
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>>159892175
You wot?
Leonidas is a life saver and can carry games on his own.
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>>159892291
Cause they need to reduce his defence before they can banish him, meaning they have to run followers into him
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>>159891176
gg
i wanted to play earth rite too, but forgot to put 1 card back in the deck
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>>159892264
>Please tell me that in ranked you can at least play with your own decks? I haven't tried that shit-show yet
Why wouldn't you be able to? It's a fucking card game.
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>another game won because of penix
epic, simply epic
JUSTspear players are the dumbest of fucks
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>>159892264
>Plays T2 without knowing what the cards do or how well they will play in game

How can you think you can make a good T2 deck, without even knowing how to play the game?
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How is heal haven balanced? I had him at 2 health and 2 turns later he was at 12 with a board of 6/6 minions.
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>>159892264
>I haven't tried that shit-show yet
Those Golly sleeves arent getting themselves anon
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>>159890746
HS tier art right here.
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>>159892178
Mordecai is awful in the Haven match up, he's too slow for Storm where he's almost always a dead draw and control strategies on Shadow are trash right now due to their lack of relevant tools to slow that particular match up. Against Elana builds, he's neither a powerful enough offensive tool at 8pp nor fast enough to pressure them. Even as a 2 for 1, at 8pp you're most likely losing the advantage race against them if you aren't already winning. He can't stabilize the board or gain ground. Worse yet, an 8pp play that doesn't close against the current Seraph splash builds will lose you the game. Haven is by far and away the biggest match up where you don't want Mordecai.
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>>159892476
Anon, you are using PtP.
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>>159892517
Luna looks a little off there. Did she cha ge her hair?
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>mfw I throw out olivia after my opponent BMs thinking he has lethal
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>>159892701
Her nose is red, I think she's got a cold
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>>159892685
Oh fuck, and I wondered why doesn't it buff my followers every time I heal
Thanks, anon
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>>159892264
>open the t2 tier list if you are not sure about what to pick
>pick accordingly, get a lot of 2 drops and some removals
>sword>dragon>shadow>=forest>blood>haven>rune
>read what the card does before playing it
And THAT'S FUCKING IT
YOU CAN GET 4-1 AVERAGE, 3-2 AT WORST
GET GUD
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>>159892731
I hope she gets better.
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why can't we rearrange decks
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>carry 8 wards
>not even a single one comes up when facing a banner meme
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>>159892501
The deck lacks consistency and it bricks decently often, it's also too slow to fight the rampant combo kill decks.

I still fucking hate it though, but it's mostly "balanced" by how swingy it is and usually hovers below 50%.
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>PtP forest is good
This meme has GOT to stop.
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>>159892501
It's not.
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>>159892151
login bonus was an hour ago
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>>159892650
The thing is against Haven it will always be a grindy slugfest, unless you're aggro shadow in which case you would not want Mordecai anyway.
Yeah he doesn't close the game fast but he's an amazing defensive tool and that late in the game, when both players are attempting to squeeze out every little bit of value out of their cards, Mordecai does make a big difference in my experience.

I will concede that he is straight up bad against Seraph but Seraph is a meme
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>>159892931
Look m8, I tried PtP everything and all other decks with it feel like a gimmick
Just face it, no class can match the fairy niggers in their numbers, not even GOLLY
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Gimme a concede at 55978.
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>>159892931
I also don't understand how it's supposed to be good, I've never lost to it even the one time it managed to get PtP online
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>>159893035
Thank you.
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>>159893169
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WHAT THE FUCK ARE TRIALS HELP ME GUYS is it some bo3 mechanic or something to league up?
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>>159891071
please respond
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Just made an account for the first time and did my free draws, are these cards any good or should I redo?
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>arena
>go 3/2
>both losses to people with two legendaries
lucky cunts
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>>159893115

Beta PTSD
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How many

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/2.5.63HPo.61Ldw.61Ldw.5_QqY.5_Qqi.63E_6.6736Y.6736Y.6736Y.63Fia.63HQ6.6736i.6736i.63Kb4.673s2.673s2.5_TGo.6736s.63Kaw.5zWmg.659nE.63HQa.63HQu.67370.675Yo.675Yo.677_2.63E-U.63Jsg.675Yy#
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>>159893238
just like win games
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>>159893238
It's a set of 4 ranked matches, you will rank up automatically when you win 2 of them
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>>159893245
One legendary and a few good golds, reroll. You can do better than that.
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>averaging over 3 wins in arena
So I should never open packs again, right?
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>>159893245
I'd reroll, only 1 leggo is really bad.
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>>159893267
Play it right and it's 5.

I've won with worse.
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>>159893245
You want to aim for about five legendaries and either at least 2 of them being used in the same deck or 1 of them being animated so you can vial it
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>>159892264
I know how you feel man it sucks But you have good days and bad days and the games great one of my favorite game on the mobile, keep playing and remember theres always that one day where you lose, you're free to get mad and pissed but you knwo you wanna keep playing after and try and redeem yourself in the end. give the game a chance look at guides and ask for advice. And I Know how you feel Scroll up I posted an image of my Luna run on take two and it was absolutely horrible
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>>159891981
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/sea-queen-otohime
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>>159893530
>>159893441
>>159893408

Thanks senpai
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Dear Shadowverse,

Please stop giving me 1 silver 7 bronze packs okay?

Sincerely, me.
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>>159882018
>(embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (read this if you're new)
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>>159893634
thank you so much,
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Send help.
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Can I even take Goblinmount in board control decks like Sword and Forest?
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>>159893778
Thank you, friend.
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>>159893921
yes

it can be very gamechanging if you get off to a bad start or get cleared on 4. mammoth is also really good
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>>159893921
Yes because he wins games immediately if they don't have an answer.

Your other pick is not bad either so do whatever.
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>>159892701
Looks like she got Gollyed. ;)
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I couldn't properly see what my health was the whole game because these things wouldn't go away.
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>>159893634
Oh Man im laughing she's so cute, I wonder if there will be a shadowverse Rpg game where you meet these characters in their respective zones and do quests for them omg I would totally Play it forever
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>>159894124
>elana
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>>159894250
I agree I'm just playing it for missions because I like Storm Haven even less.
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>Love Apprentice Necromancer
>Can't figure out a way to get her into a deck that I'm comfortable with when she has to compete with Rabbit Necromancer, Spartoi Soldier, Skeleton Knight, Necroelementalist, and Deathchaser
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>ward cards that heal their leader for the amount of damage they take

Would this be enough to make Control Blood strong? I feel like all the deck needs is some decent early game wards to stabilize against aggro.
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>>159885597
I'd like to see this art in a sleeve.
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>>159894420
Control doesn't need tools against aggro nearly as badly as it needs tools against control.
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>>159894327
>just doing it for missions
>not playing the fastest deck
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>>159894420
Control blood would still have a useless vengeance mechanic
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I did it! I won!
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>>159894718
How many runs total?
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>>159894718
why aren't you a master yet?
oh right it's because picking sword doesn't give you 100% win, scrub
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>>159894718

> TWENTY 5 win streaks
> while you're still struggling with ONE

What's your IQ?
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>>159894695
>what is dire bond, razory claw, wolves

The problem is how risky getting into vengeance can be against aggro. Also even if it never goes into vengeance, that just means they burst you down with Bloody Mary later on.
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>>159894718
>I picked Sword or Shadow twenty times in Arena guys!

Nice job anon. You won a boxing tournament against children.
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>>159894796
>>159894796
Is there a spot to check that? 391 total Take Two wins, I feel like I average 3-4ish, so between 97-130 arenas?

>>159894907
You'll get there. I mainly just play arena in hearthstone, its really not that different.
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>>159894718
How the fuck do you do that
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>>159894718
how the flying fuck. I cant even get 3 wins, that shit purely luck based
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>>159894718
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>>159895054
>>159895068
>>159894907
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>>159895112

fuck man why does bloodcraft get the best leaders?

urias is a fucking bro and vampy is super cute
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>>159890140
How come you're not running Ironscale Dragonfolk?
I find that the tempo swing they can bring is almost on par with Dragon Warriors and is perfect for shutting down aggro.
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>>159894718
You could become the #1 Shadowverse Arena streamer
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>Elana counters lolibat
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>>159894718
>tfw close to getting my first 5 match win
>Havencraft bitch ruins it
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>>159895068
>purely luck
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>>159895054
>>159895053
>>159895019
holy fuck the salt, git gud
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>win two unranked games
>both people disconnect
>i have to wait the full 90 seconds both times

Fuck this shit. If you do this in ranked it should count as two losses. Unfortunately there's no way to punish it in unranked.
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>>159895204

> any one meta deck wins 100% of the time

yeah, you got her

but now statistically she'll rape the next 2-3 bloodcraft she faces
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>>159895159
>>159894807
>>159895019
Sword is super strong, guaranteed 3 or 4 on an average draft, but I feel like it didn't actually give me many of the 5 wins. 5 wins requires a broken as hell deck, which I had a lot of bloodcraft with lots of storm or havencraft that was practically garuda or elana constructed.
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Whats a good android emulator?
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>>159895271
>he thinks take two requires more skill than luck

I did git gud in Arena. I picked pic related and won five games in a row!
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>>159895364
leapdroid was but google bought them out so the links are gone

If it's just for rerolling that's still your best bit, I'm sure there's a download link somewhere outside of their site

Don't use bluestacks, it's bloated trash
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>>159895364
Leapdroid
they discontinued it last week, just get the latest build from somewhere
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>>159885027
>Why is it that I still lose almost every second match because of bad draws.
Because this isn't YGO where 50% of the cards in your deck start a chain that lets you play your entire deck in one turn.
I wish someone would make a game that copies YGO fundamentals instead of MtG ones, Mana feels so restrictive
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>>159895271
I'M TRYING TO
I GET 4-1 AVERAGE
I CAN'T GET 5-0 NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY BECAUSE SOME SHIT SHIT HAPPENS AND I LOSE THAT ONE MATCH AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
I CAN'T DO IT
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>>159895194
Top shadowverse stream right now has 117 viewers... not exactly paying the bills
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>>159895068
here's all my runs bro

sword - 5
haven - 4
shadow - 3
dragon - 4
sword - 3
sword - 3
sword - 4
shadow - 4
haven - 3
sword - 4
sword - 4
forest - 4
forest - 3
shadow - 4
dragon - 3
sword - 4

am I that lucky or are you just bad
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>>159895271
Not him or them but I have to admit I cheesed Taker of Two with Sword and Shadow which probably made up 2/3 of the 5-0s together.

The rest were Dragon, Haven, and like 1 Forest.
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>>159895409

I want to see Erika's primary organs!
>>
Holy shit Luna is sexy.
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>finally draw my win condition
>opponent concedes before I can play it
oh
okay
>>
I never had a problem with charge in Hearthstone, but I genuinely think Storm is stupid in this game. It's fine for it to exist, but many of the cards that have it aren't really at any real disadvantage because of it.

It's part of why Sword is a no fun allowed class. The healing cards in this game are terrible and many classes have access to few worthwhile ward cards. With twenty health total, a 3 mana 2/2 with storm and a 1 mana 1/1 with storm is a bit ridiculous.

And that's not even mentioning Forte or Garuda Haven. Just the storm amulets means you have time to react to them, but Garuda is basically a storm card that ignores wards and it triggers additional storm cards potentially all within one turn.

So long as games like this refuse to let the player interact on the opponent's turn, it really restricts the amount of control of any kind someone can have over a battle. Sometimes I feel like playing with the opponent's side covered with have no actual bearing on 80% of the games played even in Master rank.
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should i build next mid range sword or tempo forest?
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>>159895482
I agree. I hate the mana system in a game without actual player interaction.

It would be nice to have a game based on YGO fundamentals, but without the ridiculous cycle and OTKs.

>>159895789
Both are expensive decks, but Sword will never be nerfed despite needing it so they are far safer to craft than Forest. That being said Tempo Forest has slightly stronger matchups overall. Midrange Sword can really destroy aggro and aggro down control. I think it's the most reliable of the Sword decks.

I'd look at your collection and figure out which would be cheaper to craft and then go with that. It does help that Sword always has budget alternatives, something Forest completely lacks.
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>>159894807
>>159895019
>>159895068
>t.people who average 2-3 wins
>unironically being upset over someone's achievement
You can't make this shit up, this is too funny.
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Video games
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meme class
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>>159895949
>sword
>needing to be nerfed
are you high
sword is the only thing keeping solitaire cancer in check
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>>159896051
meme rank
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I need the cheapest possible deck that will allow me to beat the Elite AI.
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>>159896078
and every aggro deck

oops that's like 80% of the ladder
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>>159896051

Storm haven done wrong, the post.
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>>159896141
banner
might not work on the blood ai tho
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>>159896048
Glory be!
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>>159895949
>>159896078
i guess my real question is which one is more fun to play
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>>159895615
Like her heart and lungs? Gross!
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so let me guess this straight

with my 1500 gold I could either:
straight buy 15 packs, no rush no fuss no risk involved

or

buy 10 arena tickets but since I suck expect to win at most three matches for a neat 1 pack per ticket + 60 gold for a total net value of 1600 gold

is this mode even fucking worth it for someone who can't win 5 games every single time?
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>>159896141
>>159896210
Bannermeme can beat all of the elite AI easily. I won against 3 of them without even having Alwida
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>>159895726
I get a fair few wins as seraph without playing it

Which is really fucking odd because I don't really have any way of winning without it
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>Play Aggro Shadow for missions
>Opponent is Rune
>It's actually Earth Rite
>Banishes last words just like Haven and ward golems make it impossible to have lethal with Phantom Howl

Why is playing Luna so suffering
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>>159896290
if you like playing T2 it's worth it
if you prefer meta cancer netdecks, it's not
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>When you have the Odin for your opponent's Mordecai in Take 2

you duelled well, skellington
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>>159896258
I've never tried Forest since I don't have the needed cards, but it looks like the most fun class to play by a landslide. It's like a non shit/gimmicky Rogue and the ability to do all the different combos makes it look like it takes some thought too.

You're just so flexible because you have so many win conditions and great cycle. You can deal with aggro and control well too. I'd say Forest is way more fun.

I use a lot of Sword in ranked and arena and I hate the class. It's extremely boring and the most barebones class I could think of for a game like this. You just play followers on curve and try your best to never interact with their board unless you need to or they are aggro because you instant win that matchup. You run almost no spells and just build a big board and bombard their face, and then finish them off by topdecking storm cards until you win.

It's as dull as possible. Control is the exact same thing except with wards and more trading. Alexander is probably the only cool card Sword has.
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>>159896361
>>159896210
i only have 20/40 of the recommended bannermeme cards on this freshly rerolled account. do i just craft a bunch of the bronze cards and the three banners and fill in the rest?
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>>159896384
>Implying T2 isn't even more of a shitfest where everyone is praying to rngjesus that they draw their wincon
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>>159896432
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>>159896290
It's only worth it if you enjoy T2. I don't see how someone could enjoy T2, but the purpose of Arena mode is to put them in their corner so they don't bother with the actual game.

Posts like >>159896384
are a perfect example. No one wants idiots like this in the community who don't understand how a meta works so it's best to have a concentration camp in the guise of an amusement park for the kids to play in.
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>>159896521
Banners are from the story solos
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>>159896384

> if you prefer meta cancer netdecks, it's not

I guess I do appreciate not having to play against super carefully copy-pasted netdecks. Fuck, there's so many cards I hadn't even seen before like this Geryon and Vampire Lykos who have amazing voice acting.
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>>159896290
Yes because 2 wins gives you 35-50 gold and 4 wins give you 120-140, meaning that one of each averages you a 20-40 net profit.

Also 3 wins is 60-80 gold, 60 is the lowest possible, and unless both you and your draft was awful, 1 win should be much rarer than 5 wins.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>159896521
uh bro
the banners are free from the story mode
you should really do the story modes for the cards you literally can't get any other way
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>>159896290
2 wins give you a pack and 40-50 gold i think
3 wins give you, like, 70 gold and a pack
4 wins give you a pack and 120-140 gold
So it's pretty good, worth sucking ass in it early on so you get better winrate later. Also spend 500 gold on Vampy or you will regret it later.
RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
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>Playing unranked with starter blood deck to knock out daily
>Opponent is also Blood, summons and evolves Mary but doesn't swing at a follower
>Doesn't swing for all 3 evolves

I don't even know how, unless he finished the tutorial and immediately made a deck from free packs.
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>>159896521
All you need to craft are the maid leaders and make sure you don't put any additional commanders beyond the banner. Fill in the rest with whatever the fuck you want, just make sure the florals are in there.
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Earth rite rune is the only honest deck in the game

prove me wrong
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>>159896645
he gains +1
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Are there any good Haven decks that aren't Garuda or Elana/Seraph?
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>>159896624
Vampire Lykos used to be in a lot of Aggro Blood decks before they started running Mini Soul Devil to insure they lose against Haven and Dragon.

I still run it in mine. It's a cool card. People netdeck because they lack creativity, but you can't really blame them. That being said it's stupid to netdeck, lose a lot, and just switch to another netdeck. I always finetune my decks to deal with the challenges I go up against.
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>running otohime bodyguard emblem
>just got the sleeve
>will never have dingdong
I want to die.
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Fucking hell that was close
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>>159896742
>are there any good decks that doesn't use good cards?
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>>159896371
I have people literally concede to my Seraph deck turn 1 when I play Sacred Plea. It's kind of funny, but I guess this is life in D Rank.
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Do I pick left for Elana's, and Skullfane which destroys my Elana's? Or right for useless slow card and useless 2 mana card
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>>159896645
Almost all of the bad Vengeance cards are bad because they are either a fanfare when you would want them to be a normal effect, or a normal effect when you would want them to be fanfare.
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>emotes 3 times on turn 8
>emotes 3 times before playing Olivia
>emotes 3 times after playing a ragtag team of mercenaries with 140 ping
>doesn't emote on turn 11
What could it mean?
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>>159896805
Did he have a quickblader on turn 1? This is important.
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>>159896891
>playing haven on t2

Get ready to be blasted by aggro memers.
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>>159896731
5 > 6 is worthless though. If it was 4 > 5, that might be worth mentioning.

I just want something to protect my face as Bloodcraft. All of our wards are ass.
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>>159896891
Is this an ironic question?
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>>159896742
Garuda, Elana, Seraph, and Elana/Seraph are four different decks (albeit with quite a bit of overlap) that are all at least T2.

What more could you ask for from a class honestly? Haven is in a good spot right now. It has viable decks that all have very different win conditions and goals.
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>>159896891
Go for Seraph, it is really good in T2.
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>>159897008
not like it's hard
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>>159897025
No, I genuinely don't know.
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>>159896956
So hare PtP is the new meme?

How well does it fate against aggro memers?
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>>159897062
How many arias did you have?
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>>159896854
I'd rather play three games against aggro bat and only win one than waste time with the single most boring and passive deck in the game.
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>>159897063
I'd honestly say to pick the left, then try to grab what lifegain you have. Love's Gospel is a legitimately horrible card and Seraph, while good when you're grinding, you likely won't be afforded so much time in t2.
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Darkness Evolved packs are the go-to if you want maximum vials, right?
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>3 gold Dragons

guess I'm making a Dragoncraft deck
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>>159897117
Does the Hare amulet counting down to 0 and the hare dying both count as shadows?

I would love to run a deck that could actually use the hare. It's a neat card, but just doesn't work.
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Guys, former mtg player here, haven't touched a card game in over 10+ years. Finally decided to get into one to pass the time.

I've played many decks over the years, and the one color combination that I enjoyed was the U/G variants. I really like blue's control fueled by green's mana acceleration and creatures tuned to beatdown.

With that said, what would be the best deck for me to ease into? I've read dragon has mana acceleration and beefy units while rune has control.
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>>159897117
depends on your draws really
but my deck has huge drawing power
as long as you don't get stuck with 3 themis and no altered fates, you're gucci
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>>159897062
I'd love to see the deck you ended up with.

Because the times I tried to haven ended up badly 80% of the time.
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>>159897123
1 aria, 1 devourer and 1 of the 3/4 falcon, that was all my amulets
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>>159895204
>>159895312
Can confirm, just lost to it.
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>>159896805
I think so

I angelic barraged a load of shit. This is in the B ranks
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>>159897181
To be young again.
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>>159897135
>deck dedicates seven turns to constantly trying to remove opponent's threats while also cycling to get its win condition
>boring
>passive

Back to Shamanstone with you.

>>159897192
Control Dragon probably. You can easily get to A0 with it and then from there it might be difficult, but you can definitely still climb to the top.
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>>159897215
>depends on your draws really

Just like Elana.
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>>159897241
if there's a way to get the deck after i've closed the game, i'd be happy to post it
i could also do it by memory(mostly, it was yesterday when I did it) but I don't own any haven cards
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>>159896383
Expecting to win THE anti aggro deck with an aggro deck? If anything shadow actually have more ways to win earth rite Rune than any other aggro deck.
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>>159897192
Rune's only good deck is more akin to Storm and an infinite turns combo deck you sometimes see in Modern.

If you like ramp and beating down, go Dragon.
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>>159897170
If you only care about vials then Standard is barely better. Rarity rates are identical but Homecoming is worth 800 due to nerfs.
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>>159897356
just go to create cards, it shows all of them
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>>159893506
4
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>>159897347
no, the thing about this deck is you can discard half of it and still win as long you stall with goblinmounts and themis
elana is pretty much draw amulet or die
t. all sorts of haven player
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>>159897181
>genesis dragon

Literally, 9/11
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>>159897192
Every craft has access to an aggro playstyle and control playstyle. The deck type that meets your purposes best is probably a control based Dragon build, but it's in a very bad spot in this meta compared to what it was before the expansion. You could try to work something out in it if you'd like but you might want to just fidget around with whatever you end up pulling since we're expecting an expansion at the end of December that might bring the deck back into play.
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what the fuck i've never even played swords before. my deck sucked and i only lost the one time because of a shitty hand
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>>159897425

b-b-b-but those legendary drop rates bruv

not to mention out of like the 100 available cards more than half are silver rarity upwards
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>>159894124
Why u even worry? Its not like u have to worry about it playing Elana
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>>159896290
Okay I typed out a long as post and then deleted it by mistake so here's the basics

I am bad
I have logged my arena runs for the past 6 games I am getting an average of 220 gold's worth of rewards per game
Per 100 gold spent I get 146 gold's worth back
If I spent 1500 on arena I stand to make 2200 back. So I'm up 7 on just opening packs

So yes it's worth it, and as I said I'm really bad.
If you can get 3 wins most of the time (easy) and then occasionally grab 4 or 5 you're sorted, it's really hard to lose money right now.
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>>159897626
that just means you get more of the same bronzes
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>>159897539
11/9 is the new hip happening date now.
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>all these dshits in ranked
>haven't played my old aggro decks there in awhile
>have bloodcraft daily to complete

never change nips
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HELP
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>>159897494
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>>159897626
Rates are publicized, go check them out in the store, the odds are split between cards in a rarity but the odds of getting "any" legendary are identical in both packs.

If you're dusting everything and don't care about the card selection then Standard is barely better exclusively because you have a chance of pulling Homecoming.
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>>159896964
whoops replied to myself

I think so

I angelic barraged a load of shit. This is in the B ranks
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>>159897798
Right
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>>159897181
Do you have your 3 Fortes?
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>>159897798
Right.
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>>159897181
Too bad Incandescent Dragon is a Haven card.
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>>159897458
I just used the website, here's how I did >>159897062
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.63_oi.67pxY.67pxY.60COQ.67qgu.67qgu.645Am.67qQo.67st2.63_p0.642Ey.642Ey.642Ey.67pxi.67sNo.67sNo.67sNo.640XQ.640Xa.640Xa.640Xa.640IQ.67stC.67stC.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y.63_pA.67pxs.67pxs.67pyA.60COk.60COk.60COk.642G2.67uqM.67uqM.645Pw.60Bfi.60Bfi#
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21139
Need a concede
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How quick is quickblader?
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>>159897798
I'd go right, 1 extremely strong card 1 good card. Left is 1 conditionally okay card, 1 good card.
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>>159897908
H-HAYAI
but on the other hand not fast enough to dodge a snowman
go figure
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>>159898064
Snowmen are a terror on the battlefield.
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>>159898064
It's chilly in here so he moves slower, duh.
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>>159897215
List?
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>>159898064
When are we getting this snowman?
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>>159895312
>>159897261
>second elana of the day
>beat them by turn 5
I don't understand the Elana beats bats meme. I just never trade and push as much damage as possible.
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fuck I really want the otomeme banner but I don't want to climb in ranked and not be able to do my dailies ever again
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I've been saving up shit leggos and vials for a while now since I have a few decent decks. I have Control Blood, Control/Midrange Shadow, Banners, Heal/Seraph/Storm Haven.

These are all the meta decks besides D-Shift and Forest, right? I don't really have much interest in D-Shift, and Forest and Sword Control is way too expensive. Is there any fun meme decks I can craft?
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>>159897883
Thank
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>>159898208
git gud
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>Just won a match with Rose Queen meme deck

Quick question.

If the opponent uses Rose Queen, can you see how many cards/fairies are affected, or in the opponent left to just wonder how bad they're going to get fucked next turn if they can't win there and then?
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>>159898205
Forgot pic.
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>>159898364
>b1
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>>159898303
It doesn't tell you, but there's no way to generate fairies that isn't public knowledge in the game. You're supposed to count fairies in Forest match ups to understand your opponent's hand and options.
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why do people dc doesnt it still count as a loss
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m'lady
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>>159898205
You have nothing to trade with anyways for like 3~4 turns.
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>>159898205
If they bring wards they win against bat.

If the ward comes that is.
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>>159897346
>>159897421
>>159897553

Thank you, brothers. Dragon it is then. I will probably create decks for the other colors to get their feel, but will be placing majority of my focus into Dragon.
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>>159897870
I have 0

>>159897879
>Dragon
>Not a dragon card
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>Want to try out new swordcraft control deck
>Everyone is now playing runecraft and it goes for 2-3 turns with no one playing cards

I JUST WANT TO MEME PEOPLE WITH THE WALL
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>>159898208
you don't actually need to climb, it only counts the points you GAIN not where you're actually sitting
just sandbag like a motherfucker
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>>159898208
Score rewards use cumulative points, win and then concede no problemo
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>>159898165
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.645AI.645AI.61O4e.61O4e.61QWQ.61QWQ.67pxY.67pxY.60COQ.60COQ.60COQ.60COa.60COa.645AS.645AS.67st2.67st2.67st2.65CDA.65CDA.63_p0.63_p0.642Ey.642Ey.640Xa.640Xa.640Xa.61PnY.61PnY.61Q1A.60E5y.60E5y.645QE.645QE.61NLm.61NLm.60Eb2.645Pw.645Pw
I welcome suggestions on how to make it not shit itself against harder win conditions
So far it wrecks early aggro, has fairly bad winrate against midrange aggro but good against control
earthmeme is out of question, these runeshitters haven't seen VALUE until they killed at least a dozen bunnies
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>>159898407
>Netdecked Elanas play differently in Rank A or Masters than they do in Rank B
It's all the same my friend. The only difference is the time spent grinding.
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>>159898573

> just sandbag like a motherfucker

the fuck does this even mean?

>>159898581

it takes four concedes per one win at my rank, making this four times as grueling

I wish I had an auto-concede bot or something
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I just liquyfied all my extras, which left me at 3890 vials, do i spend it on olivia or staples? Basically how important is it to own an olivia?

>Pic related my current leggos
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>>159898653
>the fuck does this even mean?
concede over and over to lower your points so you don't rank up
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>>159898418
spite
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>>159898512
Then you're going to have problems.
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>>159898702
Just craft extra bellringer angels
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>Disgusting Sandbaggers
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>>159898407
>enjoying being in literal Elf and Haven hell
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>>159898581

> that one asshole that manages to concede before you do

triggered
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>>159898653
>it takes four concedes per one win at my rank
Are you literally Beginner rank?
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>>159898768
there are't a lot of elves in b but there are more swords than havens
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>>159898795

yeah, C rank

do you lose more score in higher ranks? because I could opt for that

preferable a 1 win -1 concede or perhaps even 2 win -1 concede to keep score stable
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>>159898751
You mean ding dongs? Cause i already crafted 3. Any other staples that work in most decks?
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>>159898769
>tfw conceding in HS to stay rank 20 and someone concedes first, giving you a win streak and pushing you up to 19
>have to concede 3 more times to get back down before winning
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>>159896384
>It's a "Netdecker Boogeyman" episode
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>shitting myself because I'm totally open to a roach play on 5hp with them having a big hand and nine mana
>they play Rose Queen
hahaha
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>>159899002

> I did it again mom I won as haven xD
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>>159898839
>there are't a lot of elves in b but there are more swords than havens
Bullshit

I've played Haven 7/9 times today in B2
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>>159899002
>>159899035
I'm proud of you son
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>>159896790
He does look better than Soul Baby. I'll give him a try.
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>put 11 wards on my deck in order to protect myself from aggro retards
>no ward comes by turn 5

Nice game faggot.
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I pulled an animated Eramus but I don't even play Runecraft. This guy is free dust, right?
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>Take Two
>Vs Jap
>I win
>disconnect
Kek. Every. Single. Time.
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>>159899097
here's what I encountered from B0 to A0
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>>159899035
I'm playing it because Seraph is one of the most effective counters to Elana/Stormhaven which I'm facing the majority of the time here. My other decks beat one of those and lose to the other

If you choose to gimp yourself by playing PtP shadow or something then fine but don't get mad that everyone else isn't
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>>159899161
if you don't play Rune then yes.
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>>159899161
No one uses Erasmus. Enjoy your 2.5k.
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>>159899302
Even if he does, Erasmus a shit.
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>>159899161
>I pulled an animated Eramus but I don't even play Runecraft. This guy is free dust, right?
He could be good

But even then he's got such a high mana cost for a board clear, 8 mana is the winning point for other control decks.

Unless you want to wait and pray they make something other than Dshift rune good and that said something can use Erasmus I'd dust him.

I dusted two normal ones and didn't regret it
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>>159896790
People really have the wrong idea about netdecking. Like you said, there's a big problem of people netdecking straight and not having a clue why they're losing, but netdecks are a very useful resource applied right. There's a degree of skill you need in every deck, even if it's strictly a fundamental understanding of the game, and people just don't seem to understand that a lot of these decks they're using are designed with a specific meta in mind that might be far removed from the one they're playing in.

RAGE tournament lists are a really good example because the format makes it viable to build a deck tuned to win 9/10 games against certain match ups and lose 9/10 to others since it's their game 2 deck. People copy these tournament lists and then they're confused when they're walled in ladder.
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>In HS Ragnaros is one of the best legendaries and is included in every control and lots of mid-range decks
>in SV Erasmus is even better since it can attack on its own and can't hit face with its proc yet no one plays it
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>>159899489
(You)
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>>159899489
Japs don't like it so it must not be good
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I don't think this guy knew how to PtP
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>>159899569
>turn 7
>3 shadows
literally what the fuck. did he just never play cards?
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>>159899446
Indeed. People are very braindead when it comes to netdecking. They don't understand the basic fundamentals of building a deck and that a "meta" is not a static thing that everyone will experience in the same way. Even within the same rank you'll have people constantly queueing up against aggro and others constantly against control. Those are two different meta with different viable approaches to them. It's important to finetune your deck to deal with the situations you yourself have, rather than the ones others do. A tournament deck is rarely actually the ideal deck for climbing ladder.

It's why I always chuckle when I see that specific Blood Bat netdeck that runs the imp lancers, demon fire, and a bunch of angelic barrage bait and mini soul devils. You can tell it is completely unoptimized for ladder. I'm sure it works in Master where everyone is fucking around, but in the meta I'm dealing with at A1 it's an awful deck.

We all have much we can learn about this game still.
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>>159899679

maybe he used necromancy
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>>159899754
elf
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>>159898303
Since fairies are always generated, if the opponent has been paying attention, he should know exactly how many fairies you have.

Otherwise he has no idea outside the size of your hand.
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>>159899694
What's wrong with that Blood deck? It worked for me, even tho i'm just a scrub who got to the b0 yesterday.
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>>159899489
He doesnt have big enough titties
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>>159899489
HS - 30 HP
SV - 20 HP
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Is there any point in having more than 3 of the same card or should you auto dust when you do?
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Animated fafnir worth 2.5k vials, dust or no dust?
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>>159899679
He skipped his first 2 turns then put down PtP on his 3rd and 4th along with a water fairy, he also put down another amulet after I took down that screenshot, idk man the guy really didn't know what he was doing for an A Rank
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>>159899489
Erasmus is pretty good in earthmeme since you can protect him with your golems
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>face 3 Elanas for the day out of 9 games
>beat the first one by turn 6
>beat the second one by turn 5
>beat the third by turn 7
>but now statistically she'll rape the next 2-3 bloodcraft she faces
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>Start doing ranked
>First match is some Nip Nong playing Haven with meme Seraphs
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>>159900047
blood is the only aggro deck that can burn out an elana
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>>159899973
>took down
fuck my brains on autopilot ignore that down
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>>159895312
See >>159900047
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>>159900047

post dick
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>Forest is bad in T2
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>>159900143
Face dragon can occasionally do it if they get back to back Forte on 5 and 6
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>>159900259

> I got super fucking lucky in take two, that must mean forest is a good class for this mode!

no
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>>159900047
>Still has an evo at 8 mana on that game state
Haven players are just trash in most brackets, I'm sure they'll lose their next 3 games against Bloodcraft too. None of the decks are even relatively hard to play, it's just that Haven attracts all the players who don't want to learn the game so they got shit fundamentals.
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>>159900297
A live Musshu can do wonders too.
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>>159900259
>I did well so I must be right!

Anon, please.
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Simple guide to which Legends to keep and which to liquify

Forest: Does the card mention 'Ward' or 'Fairies'?
Ward - Keep
Fairies - Liquify

Sword: Keep

Rune: Is the card female?
Yes - Keep
No - Liquify

Dragon: Is the card named 'Dark Dragoon Forte'?
Yes - Keep
No - Liquify

Shadow: Does the card say 'Destroy'?
Yes - Liquify
No - Keep

Blood: Does the card deal damage to you?
Yes - Liquify
No - Keep

Haven: Does the card have a fanfare?
Yes - Liquify
No - Keep

Neutral: Keep
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TIL: In the deckbuilder, you can right click the cards to "quick drag" them into your deck
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>>159899959
just liquefy them. the only reason to keep them is if you feel they'll get nerfed in the future so you can liquefy them at that point for the higher crafting cost instead.
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>>159899959
Having more than 3 DING DONGS for memes I guess.
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>>159900380
>Liquifying Fafnir
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM.
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>>159900353
>>159900364
You, too, can earn some vials if you just start believing in elf power
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>>159900570
Too reliant on getting those legends for me, I'll stick to Dragon/Shadow.
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>>159900570
Why does CyGames think vials deserve a 1-1 ratio with rupies?
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>>159900380
For shadow you may as well ask if the card is Cerberus.
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>>159900628
>Liquifying LotF
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>>159900628
Lord of the Flies is used in midrange.
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>>159900362
An opponent(i think Haven) once decided to ignore my 2 mushu and 1 goblin

So I made him eat 11 damage next turn
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>>159900380
>Keeping Jeannes.

Is she ever gonna be worth a damn? I hear she used to be good or something.
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>>159900628
Atomy and LotF both see regular play.
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>>159899859
I literally just said I think it is unoptimized for dealing with things at A rank. Any aggro deck is going to easily get you through all the way up to A.

In A rank everyone runs Angelic Barrage. This instantly gimps your first two to three turns and leaves you with no board control.

Sword, Haven, and Forest are the most used classes in the game. Against all three that deck is awkward. It has no answer to Sword's Elf Child May, Ancient Elf, or Tia. Against Elana Haven is will statistically lose most of the time. Against Storm it can go either way, but that specific version of the deck gives edge to Storm imo. Again Sword you always lose unless they just completely fuck up.

Mini Soul Devil does nothing against Haven or Dragon. The evolve effects like the ones with Wardrobe Raider, Dragon Warrior, and Cudgel occur before Mini Soul Devil's effect triggers, so she doesn't accomplish her basic job. This is a meta that is all about turn four and five reseting the board with these big followers, but Blood Aggro has nothing to add to the table.

A turn four Vania evolve is an extremely weak play compared to all the other classes right now. Bat synergy can do a lot of damage when it works, but it often doesn't work and you can't really deal with turn 2-3 wards much at all.

And finally that version runs absolutely no cycle so you're heavily reliant on gimmicky topdecks the entire game. It loses to Aggro Shadow, all versions of Sword, Tempo Forest, and Elana Haven very consistently.

Demon Fire usually comes down too late. It can help you against Sword, but you're typically already dead by then against them and because they have infinite cycle they'll flood the board the next turn anyway. Imp Lancer doesn't deal well with mid game wards and requires an evolve point to do five damage. It's not bad, but it comes down only a turn before Alucard,

Again I think the deck is strong, but where I am at it is probably the weakest version of Aggro Blood I've used.
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What makes you immediately concede?

> not drawing a 1 mana minion on turn 1
> enemy haven sets down elana on turn 3
> two taker as flair
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Is Succubus even a little playable?
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Last time I play Dragoncraft in Take Two holy shit.
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>>159900846
(You)
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>>159900627
Because they copied it from HS and it works there.
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>>159900627
They play dumb to make it harder to do infinite arenas in nolife mode. Whales aint gonna catch themselves.
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>>159900846
>play Royal Banner
>opponent is Haven
>hand is do nothing until turn 3
>mulligan just gets me more do nothing until turn 3

Fucking no thank you.
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>>159900047
>being an idiot who doesn't understand statistics
>thinking winning in an unfavorable matchup means anything

Truly an aggro player
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Can I get a concede? 32604
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>>159900778
Jeanne has a Fanfare.
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>>159900851
Why woudnt it be? its pretty good
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>>159900774
Musshu is so hilariously dangerous, he's Unica/Vampy tier in how fast most people scramble to delete it.
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MUH DICK
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>>159900957
Succubus vs Lykos, which do you like?
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>>159900778
In a vacuum she's actually an amazing card with a ridiculous amount of value on her. As it stands though, she does nothing for the gameplans of the relevant decks. It's really not a stretch to imagine her seeing play in a different meta but for all we know that could take so long that you'll pull two sets of Jeannes with daily bonuses.
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>>159900846
When I'm using aggro and queue up against Sword or when I'm using control and queue up against anything.
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>>159900774
>>159900989
Should I cut the Scholars in my Face deck for Mushussus?
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When you beat a master rank Erika in round five of Take Two.

Too bad I'm a fucking scrub and lost round one, so I didn't get the 5-0.
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>banner assholes
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>>159901004
Lykos is way better. As a 2/3 he does something almost no other early game blood card can do:survive a single trade. Even if you don't evolve him he can act like a soft ward because people will be afraid of the evolve. Because Blood followers are so weak you can expect them to die anyway so evolving him is often more beneficial than other cards. He gives you damage more reliably than say Vania as he doesn't require any combo tools.

Only reason he doesn't see more play is because he gets gimped evolve stats a turn before evolving is a thing. If he was an aggro alternative to Wardrobe Raider and was a 3/4 or 4/3 for 4, then he'd be excellent.
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>>159900846
>retard elanas that play it on 3
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>Play Cerberus
>The enemy forgets about Mimi/Coco several turns later
>Win because of it

>>159900495
I opened an animated Fafnir in my first 40 packs
I liquified it for Cerberus

>>159900380
>>159900628
>Lord of the Flies and apparently Atomy is catching on
The only weak Shadowcraft legend is Pluto and she's just so-so rather than outright bad.
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>>159900846
>play banner
>turn 4
>no banner

game over
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>>159901098
Why wasn't it in your deck to begin with? If it lives it's easy 4+ damage for 2 PP.
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Nice.
Let's hope the rest of the draw is not criminally awful.
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>>159900846
>have a mission for a shit deck
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>>159900846
Aggro Blood and Face Dragon should be able to determine a lost game pretty quickly in most cases.
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>>159900846
Nothing. I'm not a pussy.
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I FUCKING LOVE LUCIFER!
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>>159901320
Forte is my wife!
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I started playing today and got this
Is this good
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I want to marry Luna and make sure she's never lonely again
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I feel like the game is quickly stagnating
how do we fix it, bros?
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>tfw the missions God descends upon you
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>>159901651

wait until the next meta shift
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>Take 2
>Playing Shadow Against Shadow
>Go First
>Play Olivia
>It dies
>Resurrect it TWICE
>End up using all 8 evolves
>Win
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>>159901651
Remove banner.

Remove Elana.

Remove PtP.
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>>159901651
This >>159901753
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>>159901668

haha y-y-yeah I bet it'll be easy to win those 7 matches when the fucking game matches you against your same rank even in unranked
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If I play Cerberus without enough place in my hand, does Mimi become a shadow or it doesn't get created in the first place?
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>>159901753
>we fix it by REMOVING content
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>>159901753
>ignore the t1 haven deck
>nerf the t2 sword deck
>removing a neutral card instead of nerfed forest cards
why are you such a retard?
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>>159901820
git gud
I do my sword dailies with Ambush memes
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>>159898702
Olivia is only used in a few heavy control decks like Control Sword or Ramp Dragon which you actually have a fair number of the pieces for. You could invest in those decks but it'd probably be better to get some more staples and some variety.

I'd suggest liquefying those fairy princesses and making whatever you need as you go along. Some good neutral staples are Unica, Dance of Death, Demonic Strike (for aggro), Angelic Barrage, and Goblinmount Demon
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>>159901651
It'll fix itself. The card pool is just way too small to expect surprise rogue decks right now.

It's a miracle that we're still having new developments in tier 2 right now even if Forest and Haven have claimed top of the ladder. People bitch about the balance in this game but I've never seen any card game except eternal-format Magic with a more diverse meta.
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>make Luna ragequit with turn 1 hare
>get level 100
th-thanks
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>>159901820
How terrible are you?
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>>159901651
Add a new expansion
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>>159902069
>level 100
>still in B0
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>>159902194

I'm level 100 as two different classes in D3 get on my level
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>>159902194
urusai
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I have an account with midrange sword and control sword, and another account with control shadow, and I can't for the life of me decide which one to stick with. Any help?
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I'm in a losing streak of 10.

Elana doesn't work, banner doesn't work.

When I pick Elana I face aggro memer and when I pick banner I face control people.

This game is against me.
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>>159902194
>implying I never play T2 or unranked
plus this deck is ptp haven, I haven't climbed at all
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>>159902285

What rank?

I want to know to keep my sandbagging motivated to the max so this doesn't happen to me.
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>>159901098
Why aren't you running both?
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>>159902275
the choice should be obvious
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>>159902363
Master
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>>159902269
I want to put a baby in Aoba.
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any deck lists or discussion out there for not making flute absolutely awful? just something with a possibility of winning a casual match
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I don't want to lose win streak bonuses bros should I just sandbag B3 forever? Before this win streak I had a 11 win streak with mid shadow
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>>159902363
B1
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>>159902289

>Playing unranked
>Literally for what
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>>159900846
I don't even have a one mana card in my deck
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So for the private mission daily, I ask anons to concede, put my match ID up and one of you will help me? That's pretty nice of you guys.
92359
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I want Pompous Princess to step on my penis and call me a pervert for cumming from her feet
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>keep pulling animated Seraphs
>don't want to play Haven that way because it's boring as fuck

GO AWAY
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>>159902543
literally to see how bad my new deck is
do you go to ranked to test your shit?
only recently have I stopped giving a shit and started grinding ranked til I hit 100
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>>159902561
lmao
>you will never be this bad at yugioh
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>>159902564
Woah, that was fast.
Thanks a bunch friend!
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83626

Help a brother finish a daily in private
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>won 9/10 of my ranked matches with lolibats

good shit
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Are Otohime's guards cute girls or cute boys?
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>>159901921
He works for Blizzard.
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>>159902993
Does it matter?
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>>159902993
They're eunuchs
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>>159902993
How DARE you assume their gender?
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>>159902402
I think my problem is that it feels so obvious that the sword account wins a lot easier, so giving it up feels bad
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>>159903030
>>159903034
>>159903045
Me and my friend were arguing about it. I thought they were girls and he thought they were boys.
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Help. I have played around 20 t2 games with swordcraft and couldn't select floral fencer a single time. Is this normal? I did get Olivia 8 times
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>>159902275
Sword's a better and more expensive deck

Surely you could save up for a shadow deck on there pretty quickly?
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88982

Hope this time it doesnt log off on android
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there is no better feel than playing with lolibats
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>>159903147
I got 3 in one run once

It's just chance, plus you can get an easy 5 wins without it
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>>159903062
What account has a better pool of cards? That's your choice. I had a secondary account that I rolled for ptp elf to practice until I built it in my main. If you have an itch to play a deck you can always create a new account and roll/dust everything for it until you build it in your new account.
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>pick late decks
>face aggro
>pick aggro
>face control
>pick control
>face late decks

Fuck this game.

I'm done with ranked for the day.
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>>159903131
they are cute girls imo
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>>159903312
Take your fucking name off you faggot.
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>>159901284
>>159902380
So this is my current list (pretend the Seabrands are Fortes). Any advice? Should I cut Shapeshifter Mage?
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>>159903375
But late decks are what you want to face as control.
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>>159903501
Cut wild hunt for siggy, swap aiela for Ironscale and I'd run a 3 drop instead of Seabrand
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>>159903752
>(pretend the Seabrands are Fortes)
But otherwise, that sounds pretty good. Thanks.
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>>159903559
No you don't, control usually wins around turn 10-11

Seraph and dshift win around turn 9

You can beat them but you have to immediately identify them as lategame combos and attack hard and still get some luck with their draws to do so
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>>159903501
Try this. You can keep Shapeshifters instead of Unica, they're both removal magnets so might as well.
>>159903752
He needs Seabrands to act as finishers because no Forte.
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>>159903851
D-Shift IS control.
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could anyone upload their leapdroid program? I've been searching for a while now and can't find any mirrors.
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>>159903501
Swap 2 Dragon warriors for Siggy.
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>>159903885
What's the point of Sandstorm Dragon?
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Hey, /svg/. I'm new to this game. Can anyone classify the kind of deck I have? I don't have any idea what you guys mean by aggro and control.
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>>159903885
>>159903994
What happened to Dragon Warrior being OP?
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>>159886179
https://discord.gg/Cz66t
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>>159903895
Why don't you just play on steam?
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>>159904031
>that fucking curve
shit
your deck is shit
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>>159904051
He is, but an evo point is expensive.
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>>159904093
It's working for me for now. I change it as I climb the ranks
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>>159889198
>>159904064
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>>159903996
He spent four hours the other day arguing it's better than scholar so he's running it out of dedication to the gimmick
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>try playing control sword
>queue up against aggro banner sword
>clear everything they do early game
>turn 4 banner with no followers on their board
>they floral fencer turn 5
>I put down Saber
>ruthless assassin clears any card for free
>proceed to just constantly use alvida's, storm, dance of death, and angelic barrage to prevent me from actually stabilizing
>they sit at 20hp because there is never a time where aggro sword doesn't have a big hand and a bunch of shit on the board

Fuck this. This meta is EXACTLY the same as how Hearthstone has been for a year+ now. Control meant to deal with aggro loses to any competent aggro deck so often there's no point making it. It also will lose to any control deck based around doing combos. Meanwhile, Aggro shits on everything so often it is the only viable deck to climb ladder with because you get to the point so quickly and have no real matchups to be afraid of.

Fuck Storm. Fuck being able to use Call of the Wild on turn 6 AND evolve it. Fuck a 5 mana "Deal 10% of your opponent's max health and destroy any follower of choice" card. Three 1 mana Storm fuccbois, Three 3 mana 2/2s, 3 ruthless assassins, and three alvidas is literally 12 storm cards all getting buffed by at least one banner at a time.

>elana is the only viable control deck
>it's also the only class with actual heal cards

Healing Angel and Unica are both trash cards.
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>>159904141
Fair enough, I'll try it out.

>>159904182
I guess it pings wards so Siggy can get them?
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>>159903996
Big butt means early game removal can't kill it and it makes the life of every 1 toughness dude really short.
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>>159904204
Aurelia isn't that good to be honest.
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>>159904093
>complaining about that curve
>if it isn't aggro it's shit
shut up retard
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>>159904204

Hello, friend. Fellow control sword player here. I have no problem with Banner.
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>>159904204
git gud
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>>159904031
nice arena deck
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>>159904182
No, you jackass, I'm running the damned thing because it puts in work.
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>>159904285
>I enjoy getting pounded by aggrobat despite it being hot garbage against anyone with enough common sense to pick more early game followers
t. (You)
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>>159904031
>>159904147
it looks more like control, but the curve and cards look weird
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>>159904051
It needs a evo point to do anything and you need those evo points, topdecking him later in the game will make you sad while Sieg can do his thing for free.
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>>159904365
one day you will learn
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>tfw you don't draw your draw in a deck that's 50% draw
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>Japanese man plays Tia
>4 times in the same game
That was the most stalling I have ever played against holy shit you still lost, god I hate you fag.
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> mfw I just set up a concede script so I can sandbag while I do something else
> it works flawlessly

My life just got a little better.
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>>159904471
learn what?
I have no trouble against aggro, I just can't finish the game because everyone and their mother have olivia nowadays
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>>159904031
It's a good stuff deck, only it doesn't have a lot of good stuff.
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>>159904204
git gud
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>Android version still doesn't work
I beg of you, someone, anyone, help
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>>159904272
Yeah I'd say she's pretty awful in most matchups. The evolve mechanic really kills her potential. Chances are on Turn 5 you have to evolve her to stabilize, but that just puts her down at a low enough health value that they can just throw something onto the field, evolve it, clear her, and continue to go face.

It's good against Aggro Blood, but that's because all their followers are bad except Imp Lancer. Saber would be better if she gained an additional health for every follower rather than an additional attack, but then she would probably be way too strong.

I mean seriously I couldn't care less that she has five attack now. The point is to be a roadblock for all the tokens, but there's so many ways to clear her and then capitalize on me not actually doing anything the previous turn.

>>159904312
Post your decklist. I'm about to giveup on this deck and maybe this game until the next expansion comes out. Zero interaction games like this and HS are unbearable when Aggro and Midrange are top tier because you are forced to play catchup the entire game and can never do anything unless they run out of steam, in which case you'd have been better off just playing midrange anyway.

Even against a shitty deck like Aggro Blood I can keep them at zero followers the whole game, but end up winning with 5 or less HP thanks to all the burn. It's extremely frustrating
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>>159904541
why do you even play this game
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Is this some new meme? It was a satan dragonflute deck
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>>159904537
I've had the same thing happen. I think it ended up being four or five Tia total and he still lost because that kind of gimmick only works against aggro.
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>>159904653

winning is fun, even if it means stomping shitters and the only way to do that is staying in low ranks

same shit why I've been rank 20 silver for 12 months straight in duelyst with my S-rank deck
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>>159904624
>Aggro
>Top tier
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>>159904691
Made to kill haven elana/seraph decks basically.
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>>159904738
you must have low self-esteem
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>>159904541
How to do this senpai? I don't wanna be in Rank A
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>>159904624
>Vampy, Wolf and Wraith
>bad
Nigga, you high?
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>>159904624

I think it's best if you post your deck and we can see what's going on with it.
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>>159904778
>Aggro Blood
>Storm Haven
>Forest
>implying "tempo" even means anything in this game and HS
>implying "midrange" even means anything aside from "have enough low mana cards to curve out as an aggro deck early, but also have wind god/sage commander"
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>>159904624
In the end though? I realize that often you shouldnt go in planning to drop Aurelia on turn 5

As midrange sword, you really need to aggressively flood the board and establish board control, that way when you drop Aurelia, you have her as a massive wall on top of your other weenies

Then it becomes an actual nightmare for the other guy

Meanwhile, I always find it hilarious if a DShift Rune floods his board with snowmen, now they cant do jackshit about the 9 attack Aurelia who is immune to spells
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I haven't gotten a single gold or legend the past 10 packs.
Just kill me
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>>159904204
My boy Lucifer would like a word with you, his 4 health heal has saved my ass many times as a midrange dragon player.
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>>159904653
>Why don't you climb the ladder so you can face literally the same exact deck 500 times in a row?????

Fuck off, at least in the lower ranks people are trying their own shit and finding their own synergies, even if it's due to lack of cards. I can literally make any deck I want and play it, and I'll still have good/fun games. I had to remake my account because once I got into A on my main account, 90% of my games were against a single fucking deck type.
>>
Did someone just quit on me outta embarrassment if they humptydumptied their pegasus when it was 16 20?
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>>159903885
>>159904182
How's this?
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>>159884675
Which one are you?
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>>159905017
Get to Masters, it's like that but people know how to play the game.
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>>159904738
>winning is hard
Dude, I'm in A3 right now and it's not hard to win.
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>>159904204
>Losing to banner as control
>>
>>159904901

I'm in rank C0 and I can't go lower than 4500, so I would assume you can't drop down from A rank either

sorry bro
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>>159904624
Bro, how long have you been playing, because aggro is shit in high brackets outside of Storm Haven which is a lot of people would call Tempo or Midrange instead. I'll give you that midrange is strong right now but meta is largely defined by control decks split between traditional styles and combo finishers.

You really need to consider the possibility that you're doing something wrong before you write the game off.
>>
>>159904403
What do you mean by the curve?

>>159904549
It's what I have. I'm thinking about buying a new cerb.
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So currently is rerolling a thing in the Steam version?
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Forte's dub voice makes me feel things.
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>>159905151

No. Use your phone or an emulator.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c9F1jfQM5TiEUPo7HuF9YQ1AoftzOcDGLTodg6zKuUk/edit
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>>159905151
You can't technically reroll on the Steam version, but you can overwrite accounts on it with rerolls from any other source so it's whatever.
>>
>>159905197
it makes me feel anger
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>>159905151
no
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>>159905247
It makes me feel horny
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>>159905030
Drop Aiela for another 2 drop, you don't need ramp.
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>>159905125
No I meant that I don't want to go into Rank A. I'm in Rank B2 and sandbagging takes too long since I climb faster than I derank. I know you can't go down whole letter ranks.
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>>159905391
But Aiela is prime waifu.
>>
New thread?
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>>159904537
>He doesn't like watching faceless japanese men bounce Tia up and down and get her off a bunch.
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>>159905471
Waifus deserve to be in decks that make use of them, it's cruel to make them work hard at a job that doesn't want them.
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>>159905485
sure
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>>159905539
You're right, I just lost because I drew her and not a Demonic Strike, so I'll swap her for one.
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Left or right?
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>>159904537
fucking hell this its the greatest feeling beating these smug fuckers
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>>159905539
And also 2 Unicas.
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>>159905513
It was the archer leader too.
So maybe when you put it that way
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>still no Dragon fish-theme deck
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Reina dream in arena
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>>159905608
G A R U D A
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>>159905608
Right, Gospel is hot trash.
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>>159905796
so is Kaguya though
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>>159905775
make one yourself and be a meta-setter
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>>159905851
6 PP 5/6 is not trash
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>>159905851
Fuck no.
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>>159905851
6 mana 5/6
2 mana do nothing
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>>159905851
Kaguya's definitely not trash
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>>159905851
>good stats for a 6 drop
>evo is alright in arena
>versus unplayable garbage

How are those 1-4 runs going for you?
>>
>>159896690
what's dishonest about aggro shadow etc?
not that i disagree about Earth Rite, its almost all i play
>>
>play sword
>face rune
>he gives up first turn

I'm midrange, bro.
>>
>>159905979
>>159905940
>>159905924
>>159905916
>>159905886
I never said she was worse than gospel
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>>159906045
You said she was trash which means you're still a fucking retard.
>>
New thread

>>159905998
>>159905998
>>159905998

Will be committing suicide due to embed overload, I even checked before posting and somehow missed them.
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>>159906112
sure lol
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>>159906045
You said she was trash, and she's not.
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>>159906378
sure lol
>>
>>159885964

>no granblue PC version
>no western release at all
>amazing support

and no that shitty ass browser window does not fucking count
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>>159885848
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>>159903501
>pretend the Seabrands are Fortes

So this must be how people with dakimakuras feel
>>
Will i ever use 3 copies of aurelia or is it safe to dust one?
>>
>>159907508
Don't dust it, it's a great card. You'll use 3 eventually
>>
>>159907485
Wouldn't the dakimakura NEET be the guy who actually ground out all his legends?
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>>159894125

most cards are of granblue fantasy characters, not exactly an mmo but pretty much
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>>159907508

nigga why Saber is crazy good and you need 3
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