/hsg/ hearthstone general

play Gwent

>>159872247
get bent

>>159872118
face warrior, zoo and (surprise) midrange shaman

IGGY

>>159872247

>not playing Dreamquest

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>>159872308
This Kodo has BALLZ of steel.

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China was a mistake

>>159872394
Why is she doing that pose, does she have an armpit fetish?

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play muhdickverse

>>159872514
do you?

Play hang yourself

>>159872518
Anon plz, I play both.
Actually let me correct that: I do my quest in hs, and play Shadowverse.

>>159872613
slave to both games

>>159872518
what's the name of the fat girl knight

>>159872668
Anon I play Mtg/Mtg duels/Netrunner as well. And some actual videogames when home. What would that make me then?

Honestly I went and invested some time into street fighter and i'm getting tilted by the random decisions of whether to block high or low

>>159872715
a cuck

>>159872770
>having fun = cuck
The more you know

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>Lost to a control warrior in brawl
>So salty i have to add him and send him a bitter comment about him being lucky

>>159872805
>I have to
You have to take a break

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>>159872756
I dont like fighting games. They have a High learning curve but a low reward. Even more when the system for online in Street fighter is so bad.

>Dont like that you lost
>Just DC before the point screen and you keep your points
Having people like Low Tier God abuse this is so scummy.

>>159872894
I just started playing, the reason i added him was because we shared a bunch of bm. I'm still having fun :>

>huffer for exact lethal
>barnes into sylvanas
>dont topdeck any burst for 6 cards
there is just so much bullshit one man can take, this game blows im going back to poe

>>159872571
Yes.

>>159873119
>poe
Whats the season like? I skipped this one entirely. When's the next one? Do we know the new stuff yet? Any new gem, I think some fire spell?

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Will Dragonpriest survive without BRM?

Will the next expansion bring more low mana cost dragons?

>>159873185
next one is december this one is really good for any CI build because essences made crafting ES much cheaper. most fire spells are unfortunetly shit from what i can tell, too squishy

>>159872756

This is the first time I hear anybody say that about fighting games, if you can't handle the pressure of mix-ups they clearly aren't for you

>>159873246
>low mana cost dragon
Tbh I think they really fucked up the theme by having low cost dragons, and turned what could have been a nice archetype into a curvestone archetype.

I mean, at its core, the dragons were all big and legendary in the core set (well, mostly, since azure, twilight). Then in BRM they included new big dragons and some early nondragons that synergies with them, and yes some whelps. But with TGT they fucked it up by adding midDragons to the pool. I think dragons should have stayed in the control-range archetype.

>>159873246
might go back to the glory days of thoughtsteal > twilight drake

>>159873246
I hope not. Dragon Priest is the most boring archetype I've ever played against in any card game.
>overstatted minions on curve, some of them even draw cards!
QUALITY GAME DESIGN BLIZZARD

>>159873997
feelio when the closest we have to a functioning tribe deck is zoo that doesn't even

>>159874115
>functional tribe deck

Totems?

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>this card will allow Dragon Paladins to play a 3 mana 4/6 on curve

And I bet you hated going against Totem Golems on curve.

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>>159873997
>[Angry whelp noises]
>Are you MOCKING ME?
>My work is paramount! Leave me alone!
>[Angry drake noises]
>[Angry magic drake noises]
>[Entombing noises]
>HHUEHUHuheuheuHEHE [Angry boom bot noises] - or - [angry cold dragon noises]
>[Angry multicolored dragon noises]
>I DREAM AND THE WORLD TREMBLES
>I - AM POWER - INCARNAAATE

>>159874546
>flustered_healslut.png

>>159874546
>I - AM POWER - INCARNAAATE
>playing Deathwing on curve
The only Deathwing you should drop when your opponent doesn't have massive field advantage is THE DRAGONS SHALL KNEEL BEFORE ME

>>159874490
Requiring both cards in your hand on turn 2 is different than just dropping a3/4 on 2.

Yeah it'll be strong when it works but you wont have the god hand in a good number of games.

>>159874546
>theaftermathof"heykidwannass/"?

>>159874673
or possibly
>I taste the essence of your soullll

>>159874546
>not chrom double pw shield

>>159874901
>[Sensual voice] Is someone injured?

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Could this see more play in Weenie Paladin with the new "buff cards in your hand" cards?

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>tfw no Chromie cards

If there is an expansion that could use her it's Gadget.

Unless they do a Cavern of Time expansion.

So this is a budget deck I Just made up, what do you think? Recs?

1x Hunter's Mark
2x Esplosive Trap
2x Freezing Trap
2x King's Elekk
2x Animal Companion
2x Eaglehorn Bow
2x Deadly Shot
2x Kill Command
1x Powershot
2x C'Thun's Chosen
2x Unleash the Hounds
1x Corrupted Seer
2x Savannah Highmane
1x Skeeram Cultisti
1x Gladiator's Longbow
1x Doomcaller
2x Calo of the Wild
1x C'Thun
1x Yogg-Saron

>>159875252
Could work. Having two winning condition is pretty good.

>>159875252
It's awful

>>159875252
Skeeram Cultist is not a good card. You need Twin Emperor Vek'Lor. Yogg-saron is not very consistent, and not very good.

>Get "Deal 100 damage to face" quest
>Boot up priest combo on brawl
>Finish the quest in 5 minutes

Feels good

>>159875252
I don't like explosive. If snake is out of the question because it's epic then at least make that cat trick.

>>159875325
Winning condition when applied to yogg is a bit of a stretch, but it worked out in the past match. Opp played majordomo, got naturalize on it, then starfall on rag and firelands summoned leeroy for the finisher. Scummy but effective.

I sent him a friend request and apologized, he had a cool control warrior dragon deck and I felt like he deserved to win

>>159875407
Eh, I know but there ain't a lot of good c'thun minions and I don't have the dust. Think I'll craft him soon though, need to gather it. Any good replacement in the meantime? Double doomcaller?

>>159875464
Can you craft it? I thought you had to buy adventures to get the cards

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>>159875252
I assume no adventures. I'd go with this instead, just add the 2nd infested wolf and CotW, cause I aint got them

>>159875743
Don't craft Yogg if you haven't already. Put in something to smoothen the curve instead.

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name ONE card

>>159872394
Lifecoach won? How about Reynad? got bored and stopped watching at 2-2

>>159875926
He lost 9-2

>>159875912
Ummmm, hero power! FUCK

>>159875912
credit card

>>159875851
I meantime cat trick though, I crafted yogg just before the patch. Don't regret it though, I have there legos and I just use the for fun. Fuck competitive play, I don't get there anyway.

>>159875831
But that's standard midrange kind of, I wanted to make C'thun work in a huntr envinroment

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>>159875912
ONE GUARD

>>159876117
>cthun without veklor and brann
good luck

>>159875912
GTX 1060

>>159875912
Frog noises

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>>159875912
Could Bolvar be used in

>>159875912
Toadally Awesome

>>159875912
Pot of Greed

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Does this utterly destroy the Zoo?

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>>159875912

Shoutouts for being a coward

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No better feeling yes I am trying out hunter cancer

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>>159876440
no it utterly destroys combo tho

>>159875162
>Masturbating to a male dragon pretending to be a girl gnome

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>>159876440
Only good target is abusive, everything else is par or much worse.

>>159876440
what if it pulls doomguard

>>159876660
Doesn't have charge or discard sinergy. But yeah, shit.

>>159875912
Jackie Chan

>>159876440

Dirty Rat seems really good.

Whatever 2 drop comes out, like a king's elek or whatever, it trades against, then becomes a 2/3~. Is that not basically 2 mana 2/3~ taunt your opponenet discards a card? It could be otherwise in some cases, it might pull a 4 drop or a 3 drop (that's mostly it). But against zoo, or Pirate warrior, it just seems amazing. Against Combo decks too.

Doesn't it basically let you use removal on your opponenet's hand? How has no one taken note of this yet?

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>>159876440
It can crush any most combo decks outight, which forces rogue to play a losing battle.
The most this will do to an aggro deck is cockblock a battlecry effect orcharge if you can kill it off

Youre supposed to play it then use an aoe

>>159875912

ALL Minions

>>159875413
This brawl is excellent for all the "shitty" new quests

>spell power totem into portal
>spell power totem into portal
>spell power totem into storm

Losing turn 6 sucks

>>159876810
Everybody has.

Play this against Rogue, summon a 2/2 Edwin
Summon Malygos? Entomb
Summon Emperor? Death.

Zoo, Beast Druid, Pirate Warrior, Face Hunter, Aggro Mage. Which one is the fastest?

>>159876838
>>159876658
>>159876548

Everyone is disregarding that even if it pulls out something against aggro, it's still big enough to kill whatever it pulls out and survive as a 2/3ish with taunt.

It literally discards a card from the opponenet's hand as a "drawback".

>>159877181
Pirate Warrior is pretty fast. Get a 5/6 Weapon on turn 4 and go face.

>>159877181
Why is Secret Hunter not on this list

>>159877256
Yeah I used to main it. I just got turn 5 lethal as (agressive, no menagerie Warden or tigers) Beast Druid though.

>>159877237
Discard isnt accurate as youre still using resources to kill something they technically got out for free.

If you can kill whatever it summons then its value. If you cant and its battlecry centric thats still value

>>159877306
The current variation of Face Hunter is basically a faster Secret Hunter with no highmanes and Leeroy instead of Ragnaros.

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>beast druid is actually fun and rewarding to play
what's the catch

>>159877473
it's trash

>>159877473
No removal, no comeback

>>159877438
>faster secret hunter
oh god blizzard what have you done

>>159877505
>>159877540
got me up to rank 5 right now.

>>159877636
Post list, I wanna play.

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>>159875162
Fuck off and stop reposting, cunt.

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>>159877404
No, but it's a *2/6*, your line of thinking is correct if it were a 2/3 or something to start with. That's my point, you don't use anything to kill what you pull, it makes up for whatever it kills itself by being massively overstatted. And you cant even say that they cash in by going face because it has taunt, so it certainly will trade next turn, because there's about nothing a fast deck runs that deals 6 damage on turn 2. Just look at it as a 2/3~ with taunt on average.

Even if you use a card to kill whatever you pull out, you just got to use removal on your opponenet's hand, like if shadow word death said :your opponent discard a minion with 3 or less attack, randomly. And then you have a 2/6 with taunt. It's literally a 2/6 with a bonus.

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rate my oc

>>159878082
S E C R E T
>R
A
>M
P
>I
D
>I
N

Inc turn 6 9/9 Mysterious Challengers

>>159878082
ebin, really love the murloc flavor, 10/10 design

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>tfw you lose a game you should've won

>>159878307
Go away, Hillary

>>159878082

It's fucking real

>>159878082
Hey anon you're really smart and creative this is literally the best OC /hsg/ has ever produced :^)

Just packed Hallazeal, the gods want cancer to overcome hunter decks.

>play against classes that play secrets
>nothing but those, its getting really annoying
>tech in one eater of secret
>not a single secret using class in last 15 games
really makes me think

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>Tfw playing Combo Tyrande in Tavern Brawl.

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>>159878463
Go for it!

>>159878082
midrange healadin here I come! gonna be awesum with that new legendary 3 mana 5/5

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>>159878082
>M I D R A N G E
>I
>D
>R
>A
>N
>G
>E

WE BACK, BOYS

>>159878082
I dont get this card. Worded differently from Competitive Spirit.

So you instantly gain the +1/+1s when played?

>>159878082
BY THE HOLY LIGHT

i used to play hearthstone back when i launched but quit when i realized it was impossible to make any progress without spending cash

have things changed for better? worse? the same?

>>159878818

Depends on your financial situation m8

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Pretty good for weenie paladin.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1921-new-card-reveal-smugglers-run

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>>159878082
This expansion is more boring than TGT. That's actually incredible.

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>>159878792
Yes.

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Are thou ready to Tank up?

>>159878463

Meme people with concede shaman. It is your destiny.

Alright, enough of these dumbshit paladin cards

Show us some mage, warlock and rogue cards already

>>159879252
Here is a reveal for a card from somebody who sound like a Mage casting a spell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB0wqWe0SS8

>>159878839

i'll take that as a no

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>>159879201

I'd tap that

>>159879310
Remember : Get Money, Get Paid.

>>159878082
I'm very curious to see if this new paladin can bring the class to tier 1

>>159879201
Yeah, im ready to tank up a maximum of two extra times IF and only if i use at least 1 Zero mana spell, and 1 One mana spell, and i spend 10 mana and my entire turn 10 to gain a whole 8 extra armor. (only if i've played justicaar already this game)

Did you even stop for 30 seconds to think about this card?

>>159879513
just keep it alive

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>>159879450
It will depend.

In one hand we got a lot of Anti Aggro. In the other, we get Weenie Paladin.

>>159878927
>this will actually be a 7/7 when played
>at the end of your turn it will be an 8/8

My boner is holier than the light right now.

>>159879579
Simply epic

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>>159879252

>warlock will never get new control tools
>entire warlock set is nothing but zooshit

>>159879513
>3
>Tank up 5
>Slam 7
>Tank Up 9

Next turn, if it's still alive
Tank Up 2
Shield Slam 3
Tank Up 5
Shield Block 8
Tank Up

8 more armor, each turn.

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>>159879593
I remember when there were 4 Savannah lions in half the decks I'd play against.
I miss the old days.

>>159879752
>if it's still alive

>>159879752
>Next turn, if it's still alive (4 health)
>each turn.

Good luck with that. You obviously know a lot about card games.

>>159879810
How much resources will you commit to a 3/4 when you play against a Control Warrior with Eloise?

>>159879861
> You obviously know a lot about card games.

Yeah my grandma taught me everything I know about Go Fish.

>>159879883
I would spend all my resources against a control warrior if I'm with Eloise if you know what I mean

>>159876405
What does it do?

>>159879861
hearthstone in particular is particularly bad about this because removal is so cheap and attacker controls trades

in magic while minions tent to die after a turn it's not completely bonkers to expect a creature to live

>>159880172
glad you asked

>>159879883
Heh, kid let me tell you something... In this card game you gotta remove EVERYTHING, failure to do so may, no, WILL results in failure. This is just a friendly tips from an experienced player, remove every minion. A 3/4? Back in my days there used to be a priest minions with that statlines, easy to remove I tell you kid. Just from one player to another, you're not gonna make it to legend with that attitude.

>>159880172
It's a Yugioh Spell. It says: "Draw 2 Cards." For free. It's banned of course.

Now we have another card called Pot of Desires, which says "Draw 2 cards, then banish the top 10 cards of your deck". Which is also really good.

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>tfw too intelligent for Hearthstone

>>159880352
it's a meme m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay_S8NjPEXk
POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS.I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS.TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS.I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDSTO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO

>>159880370
>still destroyed by a chinese girl who barely understand english

>>159880172
POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS. POT OF GREED ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL START MY TURN BY PLAYING POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS. I WILL PLAY THE MAGIC CARD, POT OF GREED, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO NEW CARDS.

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>>159880769
Please. Stop.

>>159880210
>attacker controls trades
Literally every single card game besides MtG does this. YGO, HS, SV, Duelyst, various ripoffs of the above, etc.

>>159876810
It can summon any minion from their hand. Not just 2 drops.

It might see play as it's a slightly different death lord. It has better synergy with denying them curve and cards in hand

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>>159880871
Not WoW TCG. Or Force of Will.

>>159881148
but this card is most likely going to be reaaaaally shit in arena.

accidentally giving your opponent anything past a two drop for free will probably lose you the game

>>159875912

DING
DONG

>>159881148
this card is no deathlord
playing it on two is suicide way too often
you don't want to play it unless you're holding a swd you can play the same turn

>>159881148
That's what a midrange/aggro decks keeps. If you play it on 2 it's more than likely to pull something like a 3-1 drop.

>>159880871

Lots of game do this because they copied HS and HS does that because this way you control all of your turn without your opponent having any input

>>159881190
No living human has ever actually played either of those so they don't count.

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>>159881317

>>159875912
Frostwolf Grunt

>>159881461
MAAAAAHVELOUSH

>>159881461

>Love reanimator strategies
>Specially creatures who can reanimate creatures
>HS finally does one
>Its a fucking chess piece

Karazham designs are so fucking awful

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My favourite Tavern Brawl

Got any recommendations for improving this deck?

>>159881639

Take holy novas off and put corrupted seers

>>159881759
Thanks man, that's perfect

>>159881369
Why is it suicide

When do you ever fucking keep a 5+ mana minion in your hand as an aggresive or midrange deck during mulligan?

It's 2 mana for a 2/6. You pull a 1-3 drop, probably trade and survive as a an average of 2/3 with taunt. Again, it's amazing against aggro. It doesn't matter that it pulls something, it's still killing it and then killing something else. it's a 2 mana 2 for 1 that doesn't let you take damage.

Against any other deck, even control warrior, pulling a random minion before the turn they may play it, like malygos, justicaar, elise, mire keeper, fandral, and like a million other cards is amazing. Even minor effects like ravaging. It's good against almost everything.

It's 2 mana summon a 2/6 taunt and use your removal on your opponent's hand.

>>159880370
shh hes thinking

>>159878082
Okay this is actually the first good paladin card in this set and by extension, it makes most others better.

>>159880352
I was just talking with my friend about this card the other night.

Is it objectively a card that ups your advantage? Is it an inherent +1 because the 10 banished card aren't apart of your resources or a huge neg? It does seem strong, but my friend was saying it was the most splashable card he's seen in years and I feel like even at a 2 of, 20 cards out of a 40 card deck could ruin most engines.

>>159878082

>Hey guys, remember the +1/+1 thing the other cards already did? Here, have another

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>>159882245
I feel it's also super important to mention that I haven't seriously played Yugioh since before Shockmaster was banned, and slightly after Madolches and Sylvans were the meta.

My opinion may be worthless bc of it tbqh

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>>159882276
the new Paladin cards are fucking sleep-inducing

i dont care how good they are, they make me never want to play paladin

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>>159882245

yugioh is stupid as fuck and "removed" is pretty much a second graveyard, in fact removing card can be beneficial

pictured: a card that pulls stuff from your removed zone

>>159878082
isn't that insane in arena?

>>159882554

I quite like all the +1 stuff, it means we'll be able to play stupid meme cards like ice rager.

>>159881148
It's not like deathlord. Deathlord generates a card. This gives your opponent nothing whatsoever. The minion comes out of their hand. It's ridiculous, it's 2 mana for a 2/6 taunt with an upside.

>>159882245
>>159882380

It is absolutely an inherent +1. The cards in your deck literally no do not matter, they might as well not exist. Your friend is right and it's hugely splashable. Even in some combo decks like Mermails, never mind something like juunishi and ABCs. Some heavily fragile combo realiant decks might not want to run it, but even there i think it's up for debate. The thing is even if you care about your deck, you can simply play it after you do your combo. If you didn't open your combo as a combo deck, you probably just lost the game anyway. And drawing 2 cards can allow you to get to your combo instead of losing.

>>159881956
you must be much better at mulliganing than me if you never end up witha highmane or an alexstrasza in your opening hand

and getting out malygos on t2 is a disaster either way unless youi're holding a hex
even a fandral trades favorably into the taunt and has the potential to make your life very painful

>>159882554

Its another case of Team 5 now knowing how to be subtle. Instead of maybe trying some new different designs here and there, they are shoving an archetype they want to see down or throats

Hey guys, remember discard decks? Hey guys, don't you wanna try beast druid??? Hey guys, how about that shamen totem deck? Was it cool? Don't you love our designs???? What about the newest and improved dragon priest? DONT YOU LOVE IT

For fuck sakes

>people will unironically defend an expansion filled with nothing but horseshit discover and give +1/+1
Lmao, billion dollar company can't even make an expansion for the simplest CCG out there

>>159882276
They went with the most boring shit for this expansion
>cool, triclass cards are an interesting idea an-
>most are just discover cards
HS's terrible coding and blizz's refusal to make anything that could even be thought of as complicated is really biting them in the ass

>get battlecry quest
>pick hunter
>pick all the cheapest battlecry cards
>win games

>>159873434
If they stuck with just big stompy dragons it would have been completely unviable for some decks without severely balancing out zoo and rush decks

>>159876440
Holy shit I thought that was mediocre till I saw the 2 cost. Was expecting 3/4 cost.
Though I guess you are strongly risking an opponent having something big and nasty like a rag dropping which is one of the main reasons why that 2/8 3 drop taunt guy saw fairly limited play

>>159880210
>Removal is so cheap
This is an absolutely mandatory aspect of removal. The problem in HS is that removal that doubles as burn is amazing for aggro decks as well as control(lightning bolt, frostbolt, etc, etc). It's not just aggro either, any deck that can get an early advantage retains that advantage due to effective removal- midrange shaman, tempo mage, secret hunter.

This is why midrange shaman is so retarded. Pay 1 mana to remove 3 of your opponents 2-3 drops (losing hp, the one drawback of weapons, is irrelevant for midrange shaman, since he'll always be ahead in tempo and hp). Even if you ooze a 1-3 spirit claws, you're still behind on mana. There's no card in standard that can effectively deal with totem golem for 2 mana (bring back flamecannon). Having to spend 2-3 mana killing a trogg means you're behind in mana and hp.

Flamestrike, shield slam, firelands portal, brawl, equality/cons are all great removals, but you never see them in an aggro deck, and only sometimes in midrange (F portal)

>>159882809
>biting them in the ass
In what way

>>159881369
This card is way better than deathlord. Funnily enough, it's not that good vs. aggro since if you play it on curve, there is very few aggro minions that are used for battlecry rather than stats, mostly abusive, dark peddler, and those new +1/1 battlecry paladin minions. But if they can't kill it the next turn, you just buff it with the +3 health or just PW:S and heal and you're good on the board.
It will be absolutely retarded against slower midrange, combo, and control, though, since they rely on valuable battlecries or engame combo minions like Malygos or C'Thun.

This card basically allows you to remove/steal valuable minions right from the opponent's hand, and play a 2/6 body as a little bonus. It singlehandedly fucks current rogue archetypes and yet again proves just how fucking retarded Blizzard's desing philosophy is.

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>>159872373
*cries in druid

>>159883101
Well it does not have silent. It's just a potential Fireball on a 6/8 minion for 4.

>>159882859
>get divine shield quest
>pick all the divine shield minions + blood knights + rallying blades
>never get a combo off

easy 50g

>creating by babbling book
>created by Cabalist's Tome
>created by babbling book again
What a fucking joke of a game.

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>>159883315
Yeah, they are totally OP!

>>159883040
thing is it can so easily bring out something that you can't deal with
very few decks can deal with a malygos on t3 and if you get a highmane or alex or rag or sylvanas or something similar you pretty much lose on the spot

rogue loves tempo, the only card that's really painful to lose is auctioneer and even that is not the end of the world
and considering 90% of ladder is aggro/tempo or midrange decks giving them the tempo boost can be disastrous

>>159883375

>Comparing joke sets to HS

I c u

>>159883101
>>159883183

Why is this not a Shaman card? Please disregard the current state of classes, I mean "Deal targeted damage on summon" is supposed to be a shaman thing (and a Druid thing on a lesser extent).

Do they just don't care anymore?
Immune and summoning was Hunters thing when it comes to beasts, fuck.

>>159883441
Hearthstone is basically unhinged and unglued the game.
I like it.

>>159883536
>"Deal targeted damage on summon" is supposed to be a shaman thing
doesn't shaman have exactly one such card?

>>159883375

>you get to decide the expansion
>therefore this joke card is still less random than unstable portal

>>159883582
While you are right and I shouldn't have been so specific, think of stormcrack, lightning bolt, earth shock, and many other cards that have freedom of target (as opposed to other classes which have a combination of that and other "to the hero" and "to minions").

Also, Blizzard should know by now that because of how Hunter works, they will most likely aim at the face anyways, using the big fat faggot beast as a taunt so they can keep hitting your face. Control hunter will never be a tier-1 thing, not even after distorting the flavor this much.

>>159883441
But it's basically discover.

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>>159883626

>>159882714
>Want to play "themed deck"
>Have to fork out for multiple adventures, get epics/legendaries from several different types of packs
>Missing even 1 card from your netdeck usually means the deck is unplayable

Go look at some beast druid or burgle rogue decks on hearthpwn. They require cards from multiple different sets just to barely function, never mind strong or ladderable.

>>159876440
Pull out Reno Jackson on turn 2
Heh, greetings

>>159883536

HS doesn't have boundaries to what a class can and can not do, this is why it sucks, a lot of classes have too many tools other classes also have.

Except for rogue, its a strict rule rogue CAN NOT have heal

>>159882664
You cannot target facedown cards. Desires removes facedown.

>>159882709
I never said it will never have a negative outcome. It can pull a highmane. It can also with equal likelihood not pull a highmane. It's much more likely that it will summon a 1 to 3 cost card against hunter, because you run 2-4 One drops, 4-7 Two drops, about 2 Three drops (which this card can summon), 2-3 4 drops (one of which if you pull is basically a 3 drop). The only strictly bad outcome out of the former is Infested Wolf. The other negative outcomes are 2 Highmane, 5 drop if they run it, and ragnaros, if they run it. 2-4 total cards, 4-6 total possible likely cards.

Meaning they must have one of these 4-6 cards, in their opening hand, after mulligan (and they would mulligan for early drops, obviously), and for you to *specifically* target one of those cards out of the possible 3-6 they would have. The good cards are about 11-14. That's more than enough of a favorable likelihood against midrange hunter.

You don't play this on 2 against control decks, sure. And If it pulls an Alextrasza, count your lucky stars. You just circumvented around 15 damage, and you can now simply remove it. And if you do remove it, you just paid one card to remove one card. Hardly a tragedy when you factor in that it's alex.

>>159883972

>not allowed healing
>not allowed board clears
>Why does nobody play rogue guys?

>>159883924

Did you reply to the correct post?

If you did, I still don't see your point, if anything, it just proves blizzard doesn't know when to quit pushing an archetype, and this is mostly common sense by now

>>159883536
No, shaman is just suppoused to be the value/control class, by initial intent at least. Pretty much every class has or will at one point have class minions that do targeted damage.

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>3 games against tempo mage in a row
kill me

I FUCKING HATE TEMPO MAGES JESUS CHRIST WHEN IS THAT FLAME SHOOTING FAGGOT ROTATING OUT

When is expansion coming out pls

>>159884369
Before christmas.

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>>159884303
March or April

>>159884303
January and even then we're still stuck with horsecock rng like babbling book along with whatever horseshit discover they print. Why should players have to play around cards when they can try and play around cuhrayzee rng instead :^)))))

fuck this shitty game, I should go back to Eternal

Give me a good tempo mage decklist, /hsg/.

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>>159884081

You think its bad now?
Rogues going to get so much worse in next rotation

>no reno
>no thaurrisan
>no brann
>no gang up = no mill ethier
>no tomb pillager
>no raptor

The rotation was the only reason C-Coin made and people underestimate how much rogue decks need brann or reno.

>>159884081
>Never interested in Rogue
>Find it cool how you are scared shitless even if it has nothing on board
>nice flavor, strong class, Leeroy and Auctioneer nerf makes them actually fair imo
>All these fucking nerfs

Don't worry bro, soon You'll have your 5 mana 3/4 "Weapon in your hand gains +1/+1"

:^)

>>159884586
Hey man, at least they still have a fork that turns into a weapon.

>>159884496
FUCKING SHIT, I SWITCH TO SHAMAN AND I WILL RUIN THE LADDER TO EVERYONE SO I CAN FUCK OVER THESE LITTLE GAYLORDS

>>159884548
No. It leave at the next expansion after MSG, not at the new year.

Is tempo mage even a good deck, right now? Isn't its main prey midrange shaman?

>>159884757
shaman isn't the best deck against tempo mage
on the contrary tempo mage is one of the few decks that can contain shaman's early aggression

>>159884757
Tempo mage beats shaman

>>159884152
Yeah, right post. It's not that they're uncreative. Rather than releasing a shitton of beast druid cards in WoToG and Kara, they intentionally drip-feed them out to force people to invest in multiple expansions. Wtf does swashburglar have to do with Karazhan or partying? That could have gone into TGT or WoToG just as easily, even under a different card art/theme with the same effect. Same with menagerie warded.

I will admit that dragon priest has way too many cards. Probably a case of make the only decent priest deck better since they don't know wtf else to do.

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>>159884878
>>159884876
I don't remember having any problems against tempo mage as evolve shaman.

>>159884948
Evolve shaman is not a serious deck, it doesn't count for anything

>>159884719
Why that wasnt 2 mana il never know.
You lose 1 health and 1 mana for having an extra firewinaxe. That you need to pay 4 mana later to do 3 aoe.
Thats 7 mana and 2 cards to do 1 damage less then flamestrike

>shaman using 477s and totem golem in brawl
Man shaman players are literally braindead.

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>>159884632
>tfw was f2p shitter casual back in beta
>missed out on the glory days of Rogue

>>159885248
>1 mana 1/1 with a downside
kek

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Heroic Tavern Brawl is never coming back, is it?

>>159885324
Good, I need to save my gold for the expansion

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>good against shaman
>get to play huge minions
>get to play jaraxxus
>get too feel like an anime villain by playing mountain giant turn 4
>get to cuck aggro shitters with reno and get cucked when you don't draw him
why aren't you playing renolock /hsg/

>>159885432
I literally played more Hearthstone the week after they announced it than I had in months. Preparing for a pseudo-tournament felt so good, it gave me a reason to tryhard. Now, I'm just back to clearing out my quests every couple of days.

>>159885432
>ever participating in that kikefest

>>159885509
I am, but it's a dragon build.

>>159885509
I play to win

>>159884586

I would never play Rogue if not for Blade of C'thun. I think that just about gives them enough removal.

Plus it makes people mad :D

>>159885531
couldn't you just play tournaments?

>>159885509
>VS AGGRO
>opponent has 3 health minions
>lose if i dont draw 1 in 3 hellfire

>vs any deck
>dont draw reno in 1st 10 cards
>lose because tapping and worse consistency of minions

>vs control
>only have 1 hard removal


yeah i cant wait

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"Spell : If a friendly minion dies this turn, destroy a random opponent minion"

I could see that in Warlock

>>159885778
went from rank 15 to 10 with it with only like 3 losses myself

>>159885623
Blade of cthun is relatively medocre mainly becuase no-one plays big stuff anymore besides paladin, maybe priest and maybe drood.
Dark iron is good but rogues need something that does 3 damage aoe or more.
Im havint to resort to fok + evolvedbold ffs
>>159885795
That would be broken as fuck in warlock unless it had a high enough mana cost.

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5 mins out?

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>>159886038
oh shit

>tfw rumors hes trying to get back into the pro competitive hearthstone scene

>>159886038
>6 2/2 "Equip a Bomb Launcher"
"5/1 Weapon, damage dealt to a minion, deal the damage to adjacent targets too"

I could see that.

>>159886001

I love Blade because of rogue's shadowstep effects. I often get a concede when I shadowstep them because the opponent cannot fathom a way to win without shitting fat minions onto the board.

>>159886220
lol he's never been good

He only got into tournaments by dint of his celebrity, and he lost consistently.

>>159883436
But you don't want to play it on curve unless vs. aggro, and in that case there are very few things that can really punish you, like Doomguard. Even pulling Leeroy is good since unlike with Deathlord, the effect always procs on your turn, so they can't use charge and you trade a 2-mana taunt for their finisher.

Rogue losing malygos or edwin is big since apart from auctioneer and thaurissan, those are the key threats of the deck. Even Azure Drake with no cycle hurts. And you'll never going to drop it t2 vs. rogue because what for.

>>159886306
>rogues will never be the fiddly shadowstep class

blizz pls i just want to bounce things to my hand ten times

>>159886324
hes still adorable

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Is it any good now with the 2/6 taunt?

>>159886434
>is it good now that it has another bad option?

lolno

>>159886038
Battlecry: 5 2/2 Summon 2 copies of this minion

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intersting.

>>159886393

Shadowstep + Xaril + youthful brewmaster just about works most of the time.

>>159886516
Oh, they used my favorite portmanteau.

>>159886516

>Brann synergy

This is gonna be great

>>159886516
>this + brann


Holy shit dude

>>159886516
evolve shaman meta inc.

Does nobody fully understand the brawl or something?
Just went against a guy who just played high cost high statted shit like eldritch horror and then spammed wow when i starving buzzard/unleash the hounds'd him

>>159886516
brann + this + evolve

>>159886516

RIP firelands portal

>>159886604
>>159886610
I think the point is to buff it while still in your hand first.

Trump is so autistic

>>159886643

People are playing fucking overload minions. Nobody reads the rules.

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>>159886393
>>159886306
Deck Im using is miracle but using brann + farseer + scarab for heals and value
>>159886516
Thats going to be disgusting in paladin with all the hand buffs they are getting.
On the other hand this is grim patron for rogues.

>>159886540
There's so much more they could do with it, though. A minion that says, whenever you play a battlecry minion return it to your hand. Make your hero power into shadowstep. Cards that reward you for bouncing. So much, and instead we get burgle effects.

>>159886480
>He thinks dirty rat is bad

>>159886516
>evolve shamana and on +1 pally decks

>>159886750

I can see why they wouldn't want it to be too strong desu

>>159886750
>rogue gets a shadowform
>2 mana shadowstep.
Please yes

>>159886774
>gives your opponent a massive tempo swing
>attack is too low to efficiently clear any low cost minion
>has the chance to completely blow you out

Why does anybody like this card?

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>>159886516
Hey guys, how you doin?

>>159886707
he is the president of the free world though

>>159886863
Why did anyone like Deathlord?

>>159886516
>3 5/5 turn 5, even 5 5/5 with Bran

>>159886819
I think it's a way to create a deck that Rogue players would really like, without giving them OHKOs.

>>159886971
because it survived for at least a turn so you could deal with whatever it gave your opponent the following turn

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>>159886803
>Turn 7, get 3 7 cost minions
Noice

>>159886971
Because it had relevant stats? There is a huge difference between three attack and two when it comes to early trading. For that matter, there's a pretty big difference between 6 health and 8 when it comes to single target removal.

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>>159886516
literally the same

>>159886863
>Able to stall out l ong enough for your removal
>2 attack kills all the 3/2 drops hanging about right now
>Same with deathlord you just have to accept that, better chances as they will mulligan for low cost cards that early

>>159886971
>High health, stop most of the aggro, low set back

Aggro would have to kill 3-4 minions into it to get rid of it.

>>159887116
With the difference being that the new Grimestreet archetype works better with Dopplegangster

>>159875912
ONE card

>>159886863
Unlike deathlord you dont curve into it.
You play it then remove whatever comes out
>>159886973
You mean 5 2/2s its bounce grim patron.

>>159887118
What class plays a 3/2 on curve outside of Hunter?

>>159887116
>"literally
>even as bait/ironically

well meme'd friend.

>>159886516
this set is so fucking stupid, lazy and gimmicky

hearthstone is irrefutably fucked

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I..

I did the most amazingly stupid misplay of my hearthstone career.

Holy fuck I want to shoot myself right now.

>Turn six
>Have ice lance ice lance acolyte fireball pyroblast in hand
>Be at 2 hp
>enemy druid is at 9
>was hoping for a frostbolt topdeck trying to win the game
>realize there's no way to win, try to freak him into conceeding
>acolyte and double icelance my face
>In that moment, I realized i could have used one ice lance to proc the other one.
>I had lethal with fireball ice lance ice lance

I had a 10 game winstreak.

I wanna fucking die.

>>159887248
*Duelyst Kara intensifies*

>>159887213
>Unlike deathlord you dont curve into it.
>You play it then remove whatever comes out

Because a 2/6 is so relevant off curve

I mean, come on, you have to see why that's a terrible strategy. You're running a card that's only good if you also have the perfect removal in hand?

>>159884917

I see, you're correct on that point

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>>159887213
Nope, you could easily buff it to be a 5/5 or 6/6 by turn 5 if you are lucky.

>>159887337
It remove control. Rogues dont want a 2 mana Edwin or a Malygos that get killed before they have spells.

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Is it as op as I think>?

>>159876440
It's a 2 mana card, but you generally want to play it later and not turn 2. The reason for this is that you can have a way of dealing with whatever you draw on the same turn as you draw it.
The difference between Deathlord and his is that Deathlord only summons the minion after it dies, so almost always during the enemy turn, which means the enemy won't be able to actually use the minion.
This card summons the minion during your turn. That means that the enemy can use it right after you press the end turn. If you play it on t2, you most likely won't be able to actually deal with the enemy minion and if it's something big, you just fucked up.

It's best used against combo decks a turn before they will use their combo and you deal with their combo card. For example drawing Druid Malygos and killing it on turn 10. You just outright won the match. Getting Rogue's Edwin or Auctioneer means you just significantly fucked up his turn.

Getting Zoo's Doomguard on t2 on the other will fuck you up hardcore.

>>159887215
Mage, druid, warlock, hunter. The classes control decks have problems with

2/6 still survives against all 2 drops and will usually 1-1 them or force out removal. Exactly how deathlord was, couldn't kill 3/4 drops but could 1-1 them pretty much. Turns out 2 mana 2/6 is better than 3 mana 3/8 that way

>>159887550
You have absolutely no control over that, though. Not to mention, if you're talking about the control matchup, pulling from hand is hugely worse than pulling from the deck. Deathlords win control mirrors in Wild when N'zoth brings them back, because it thins the opponent's deck and fatigues them faster. This just gives better tempo.

>>159887256
And nobody believed me when i said anybody can play freeze mage.

>>159887215
tempo mage ,warlock

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>>159887349
>>159886516
>People thought buffing your c'thun with average cards was boring
>We're getting c'thun: the electric boogaloo now
>People keep eating it up
How do they get away with this??

>>159875912

LET ME CHANGE YOUR MIND!

>Name a card that will never exist.

>>159887635
Except that you remove combo pieces that cant fit the combo. And you can destroy them on your term.

No OTK. Imagine a OTK Worgen with his Worgen removed and killed when he had it on hand?

>>159887609
This pulls it out immediately, though, which ups the chances that it loses the trade immensely. Usually, with Deathlord, you didn't have to deal with it's pull until turn 5 or 6, or potentially never if you got a Velen's Chosen on it. Now, their random card is down on turn 2, and it gets to answer your 2/6 taunt for free.

Also, mage does not need to play its 3/2's on curve, I don't know what you're talking about with Druid, and Warlock doesn't care at all about going 2 for 1 because their hero power is constantly refreshing their hand.

>>159879883
2 mana and a card.
That's literally a more dangerous Angry Totem, and I already Pain all Angry Totems.

>>159887561
nah requires multiple synergy cards and you need it in your hand from beggining, too inconsistent

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Get cocked you murloc shitadin.
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>159887782
So this card is good, sometimes, against an OTK deck that no longer works?

Even supposing you manage to get Malygos out and remove it, the only deck that beats is Rogue. Druid runs 0 mana 8/8s you're still going to have to contend with, and now you're behind because you had to spend time dealing with a 4/12 instead of developing board.

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R8 how accurate you think this tier list is for next expansion

Zoodin or Curvedin
Midrange Shaman
Pirate warrior
Dragon Priest
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Zoolock/discardlock
Improved Token drood
Armour/control warrior
Midrange hunter
Greedy control priest.
-
Face hunter
Tempo mage
Beast drood
Pirate/Tempo rogue
Control shaman
Miracle rogue
Anyfin paladin
Nzoth decks
Cthun decks.
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Murloc decks.
Burgle rogue.
Pirate Paladin
Mill rogue
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Other

>>159887561
Probably not, unless someone finds an intersting interaction. These buff cards suck dick as a deck and don't fit in any deck archetype. Patron was great in part because the combo cards drew you cards, cleared the board, added/dealt damage, etc.
A deck built around this cannot be a combo deck. There's no win condition to this. To boot it comes out on 5, just before 6 mana which is conincidentally is what dragonfire potion.

>>159887928

I hope opponent had an aldor or keeper, but judging by the rank I will say he did not

>>159887928
FOLLOW THE RULES

>>159887561

>shadowstep

Yeah

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Post your brawl decks senpaitachi.

>>159887837
That's also a benefit, you starve their hand of resources rather than thinning their deck. Also chances are if this is played early they wont have any bigger drops as they mulligan for early ones. There's even the chance it pulls nothing which is much higher than if it was pulling from the deck.

They're both niche but this is by no means bad I think it'll see play, zoo typically doesn't want to PO to kill a 2 drop

>>159887935
No. It's good against any combo deck or any card that use a Battlecry.

If you get an :
Edwin
N'Zoth
Alextraza
C'Thun
Emperor
Yogg
Justicar

Really, any card with Battlecries or that you can kill before end turn effects? It's gone. Twilight Drake is a 4/1.
You remove choice. You give yourself choice.
What is the worst case scenario? A Deathwing : Dragonlord?

>>159888102

Rafaam is all you need desu

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>it's a mage has all the answers in arena episode

I hate reruns.

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>>159888015
Of course the had them in the deck, I took a gamble and it paid off. Dead by turn 4

>>159888174
>10 mana spell
No thanks.

>>159887947
We don't know yet. like a million fucking cards are still not revealed.
Zero percent. Paladin is still shit. I can't fathom how retarded you have to be to think it would be better than those three decks.

>memeing it up with velenpriest
>playing against rogue
>get 2 northshire clerics and an acolyte of pain to stick against her empty board
>wild pyro, CoH and pw:s in hand
>"this one's in the bag boys, shit yeah"
>rogue plays shadow word: horror
>Shadow_word_fucking_horror

SHOVE YOUR STORIES UP YOUR ASS BLIZZARD FUCK

>>159883972
>Except for rogue, its a strict rule rogue CAN NOT have heal
Nor have playable weapons or AOE.

>>159888107
It doesn't count as starving them of resources if it's on the field. You haven't hurt them by doing that, you've let them play cards from their hand that they wouldn't have been able to, otherwise.

>>159888121
The argument you're making works just as well for Ancestor's Call, and that saw 0 play.

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>>159888070
OP has no rules

>>159887561
By virtue of needing to be in your hand while you play understatted minions to buff cards, I don't think he is too broken. If you draw him late, he's not so good. And you might have him in your hand, but the RANDOMness of the buffs might hit your other Grimstreet Goonie friend and do nothing for him. So, unless you're playing Smuggler's Run or Outfitter, there is no guarantee your win con even gets buffed. I think he is much more consistent in an evolve Brann sort of deck, but right now that deck is terrible. So, until we see more cards that combo with him, so far I am not impressed.

>>159888308
Except you get a 2/6 taunt. For 2. Also, priest can remove ANYTHING that does not have 4 damage, easily for 3 mana.

>>159888298

Even though I'm a main priest, I'm more excited to see rogue cards, because if its just "discover card from your opponent class XDXDXD STORIES" bullshit even I will get mad

>>159888401
Ancestor's Call gave you a free any minion from your hand, which is pretty much always better than a 2/6 taunt, and Shamans can deal with anything, period, for three mana.

>>159888272
Because after that one-two crap early turns every single one of paladins minions get buffed beyond their already good stats, and if things do get bad, theyl just reset the board for eq+con or pyro+eq.
Itl at least be tier 2

>>159888308
>Pull out their 2 or 3 drop
>They have nothing else to do but hero power
>You have more of a chance of getting on board after that
Also it fucks battlecrys like deathlord did. If the new give your minions in your hand buff cards become viable then it will be even better pulling out under costed ones.

>>159885509
I don't have Jaraxxus nor any of the Giants except the Sea. And I want Jaraxxus so badly.