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Bullying Edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone. The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ

Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

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>>159824146
I want to fuck ____
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Where the fuck is the discord
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Can someone please link me to the /svg/ discord?

I lost mine and it was removed from the OP
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Got bored of only playing swordcraft.

Please guide my way on my forestcraft take two draft.
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>>159824278
fug off
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Redpill me on the Lord Atomeme, /svg/
What's his endgame? Two packs opened, two legendaries gained
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>>159824278
>>159824290
>>>/gbfg/
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>>159824278
Unrelated to the general and was removed several threads back, stop asking and fuck off.
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>>159824256
I want to fuck anon
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>>159824362
>>159824367
Just link it so I can get back in there, that's all I want.
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>>159824367
How is a /svg/ based discord unrelated?
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In what universe is Seraph considered acceptable?
Summoning a super powerful monster or changing your deck to super broken is one thing. Outright winning the match though? Absolutely fucking retarded.

The fact that the person can use their fucking countdown reductions on that bullshit is icing on the cake.
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>>159824436
They dont like it so its unrelated because they said so
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>>159824447
Next time try making it less obvious your only CCG experiences is with Hearthstone and its knock-offs.
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>>159824328
Left, at least Bolt doesn't take 2 turns to work.
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>play against Storm Haven
>use Ward T3
>concedes

Huh.
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BOUNCING TIA UP AND DOWN AND MAKING HAVENSHITTERS CRY A BUNCH
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>>159824413
>>159824436
Here you go dudes, enjoy.

https://discordapp.com/invite/ZJxsfBm
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So why would I play this instead of Hearthstone?
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>>159824413
>>159824436
Discords are cancerous and unrelated to the thread. Fuck off.
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how high does the daily bonus go?
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>>159824535
it loops
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>tfw T2 value
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>>159824534
>Unrelated to the thread

Its literally the /svg/ discord though, the only cancerous thing is you having to reply to every single post that mentions it.
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>>159824523
Much less RNG bullshit, cuter girls, more generous, much lower barrier of entry.
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>>159824447
Seraph's the slowest "I win" button in the meta.

I mean, not the slowest "I win" in the game but PtP and DShift both come out 8, sometimes 7 if the game is going really well. You can't ever complete a Seraph win before turn 9.
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>>159824558
wow, that's gay and disappointing.
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>>159824517
>Reddit discord

Very funny anon
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Anyone care to share their dirtmage list?
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I want to FUCK Luna silly.
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>>159824534
Do you know you're replying to the OP? Yeah, it's already got take over :^)
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>>159824523
Because you don't have to spend months grinding for gold to buy packs only to get nothing out of the pack due to garbage ratios.
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>take two
>get paired against Sword going me first FIVE TIMES IN A ROW
Uninstalled.
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>>159824373
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>>159824621
Dshift is a stupid meme gamble. PtP is equally stupid to seraph.
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>>159824436

https://discord.gg/fmwhy

Fuck 'em.
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What changes can I make to the basic rune deck to beat dragon in story mode ? He always has better trades cause of overflow and dragon evolve and generally bigger threats while I can barely do shit with rune basic deck.
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>>159824256
Vampy
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>>159824780
Anon, no-one cares if you post a link when someone asks. It's just never put in the OP.
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>>159824780
Finally someone posts the real link, thanks.
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I want to DP Floral Fencer with an /svg/ Anon!
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>>159824845

You'll be pleased to know we've issued a missive asking people not to post it in the general.
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Oh boy here it comes. Like "pottery", or something?
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>>159824845
It has been put in the OP multiple times though

The only problem is the couple autists crying and spamming the thread because they dont like it
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>buy vanias and fortresses to do blood daily
>draw none of them in 7 games

i fucking hate card games
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>Elana on round 3
>Mass healing on rounds 4 and 5
>Themis on round 6
>Seraph on round 8
Holy fuck Haven players are truly cancer.
4 out of 5 players all play Haven what the fuck.
And they even believe they are good at the game
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>>159824885
May Medusa sit on your face.

>>159824914
By shitposters anon.
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Discorders are like threatful barbarians; You surrender to its selfishness or else they'll blown up the whole place so no one can have it.
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>>159824969
>Same medusa image used to shitpost in that same thread

Yeah, you're the shitposter that wont fucking shut up about the discord. When will you realize you're the one shitting this thread up? And when will you stop crying about it when things dont go your way?
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>>159825042
>making erroneous assumptions
Here's a (You), it's the only one you're getting.

Now stop shitposting.
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All I'm saying is I can't control it if someone puts the discord in the thread. We've asked people not to. That's all that can be done. Can we talk about Shadowverse now?

I'd still like people to share their earth rite decks.
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>>159824845
>no-one cares if you post a link when someone asks

I don't believe you
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>>159825117
>Stop shitposting
He says while he shitposts
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>>159824904
Like pottery, ABC, 123, Do Re Mi baby you and me
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>>159824684
>three arenas in a row
>not one single royal, me included
????
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>>159825117
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>>159825150

By thread I mean OP
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[Confused anime reaction image]
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Help me fix my bat deck please.

I feel like I'm always running out of steam by turns 5-6.

Out of the maybe 30 games I've played today Precious Bloodfangs was ever useful and Killer Soul Devil feels underwhelming.
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>>159824256
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=59199816

YOU WILL NEVER BE THE MAN ON THE LEFT, JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI.

>>159825212
I have played Sword in Arena like 4 times and didn't get a single Quickblader or Banner.
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>>159825254
He needed to get off the 2 damage for his lethal combo next turn.
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>>159825265
Post dick list.
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Should I bother rerolling if I'm 50 hours in? I really screwed up and don't have much legos. I only have very few legos I got in packs which all are shit Skullkane, soul dealer etc. I had to actually craft 2 otohimes and 1 saber and though I get bye I'm just annoyed that I don't have enough legos. If I reroll on bluestacks can I put my new account on steam and delete my old shadowverse account on steam?
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT MY FIRST 5 WINS BABY

I HAD SUCH A GOOD DECK IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO LOSE LOVE YOU FORTE
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>>159825265
>I feel like I'm always running out of steam by turns 5-6
Are you playing bat aggro? Because that's just how the deck works.
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>>159825352
what's wrong with her eyes
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>>159825265

and of course I forget the image like a retard

and I meant P. Bloodfangs was NEVER useful.
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>>159824969
Do people who design costumes not think how you'd even put that on?

>>159825278
Gay.
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>>159825394
shes a dragon
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>>159825308
What can sword even do with 3 cards and 9 mana?
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>>159825394
>>159825352
DORK DRAGOON
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They really need to fix Vengeance. It's the shittiest class mechanic.
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>>159825150
>>159825167
>>159824845
I honestly don't understand you people.

Lets go over this again, putting it somewhere in the OP. The OP that many, many people in /vg/ never read isn't okay but asking for it in the thread and derailing it in the process is perfectly okay.

What in the world is wrong with you?
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>>159824256
Lilith.
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>>159825487
Make vengeance activate at 19.
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>>159825412
>Complaining about impossible clothes in an anime-styled game.

Pretty sure that shit's the norm rather then the exception.

>>159825494
STOP.
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>>159825436
Win? Come on, anon, I didn't need to spell it out for you.
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>>159825405
Seems fine to me. You can replace the bloodfangs with cursebrands vampires if you feel like it's not doing work.
You have to understand, the deck is supposed to run out of steam around t6. That's how aggro decks work: if you don't win around turns 6~8 then you're done. If you don't like burning out so fast, may I suggest trying other deck archetypes?
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how the fuck am I supposed to play agro as bloodbat when 99% of matches end up with this hand
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This was more the haven player having shit draws but it still felt pretty great
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>>159825412
>Carrying out sexual activities with a member of the opposite gender is gay
>Not wanting a woman to rim you while jacking you off.
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>>159825529
I don't mind really impractical. I mean straight up physically impossible to remove and to get into.
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>>159824721
Magisa's magisas make my dick feel funny.
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>>159825617
wow you must really suck at card games
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>>159825543

I'm going to replace the wolves and p. bloodfangs with 2 draw blood pacts and maybe that momo 2 drop that summons two bats if vengeance is active

I also feel like Vampy shouldn't be played early unless you can summon some bats on the same turn you played her. She never survives.
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>>159825617
By not taking Demonic strike
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>tfw playing Control Sword and rolling over people with Alex
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>>159825636
>straight up physically impossible to remove and to get into.
The top half most likely works as a suspender and is detachable.
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>>159825672
Do not replace the wolves. They are an essential part of the deck.
Shit man, why don't you just play Control Blood?
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>>159825652
SV has the best witches.
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>>159825436
play 3 centaurs on 2 banners and get 14 face
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>>159825412
a simple zipper in the back would allow you to put this on and off any day of the weak fampalamalamalekum
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>>159824969
>using samples
for shame anon
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I need some help here since I have no fucking idea if the golds are any good
>>159815293
HELP ME FUCK
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Sometimes I feel bad about it.
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>>159825680
Please show me an aggro bat list that doesn't run it
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I finally recover the linked version of my account but 50 crystals literally disappear from my account.
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>>159825534
In all seriousness I'm curious. What's the biggest burst sword can dish out?

Best I've got is OTK, but it requires Leonidas' token, 10 mana and 4 cards
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why do vampires have elf ears in this game?
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>>159825707
Control Sword is the best deck.
Nothing feels better than crushing the hopes of every aggro deck out there with a deluge of wards. I've had so many aggro bats just straight up concede once I drop my second active Aurelia.
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tfw trying to resist opening packs until I can do 10 at a time
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>>159825835
They're about even anon, do you know which craft you wanna play?
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>>159825872
The standard net deck
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aggro-bat-bloodcraft-gamepress

A 1st place tournament winner
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aggro-bloodcraft
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>>159825919
That's nothing new.
They're not elf ears, they're supposed to invoke bat ears.
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>>159825919
It's a Japanese thing.
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>>159825919
why not?
captcha mexico closed
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Is there an easier mission than evolve a follower 5 times
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>>159825945
same but I settle for 5
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>>159826061
Laughing at your entire fucking life right now. Did you need lessons to be that stupid?
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>>159824621
>Seraph's the slowest "I win" button in the meta.
Leo/Olivia is slower

It goes
Control Sword>Dragon>Seraph>PTP>Dshift>Midrange
Dunno about control blood and how it wins
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>>159826053
>gamepress
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>>159825919
Might be because the original vampire(s) had those type of ears.
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>>159826018
No idea honestly

Should I just pick the one with the cards I prefer then?
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>>159826141
>thinking his solo decks are better
>when he complains about losing
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>>159825835
go right, you have a lot of goodstuff

post more rosetta
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Which one? I really like Ceridwen, but every Shadowcraft I lose to in take 2 has Mordecai
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how much do packs cost with real money?
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>>159826208
>gamepress
>a legitimate source for fucking anything
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>>159824523
>So why would I play this instead of Hearthstone?
Much much more generous with cards

After two weeks I have two decks including an expensive control deck

I'm two boosters behind in hearthstone and it's going to take me about six months to catch up to them and the new boosters and most of that is just for cards that everyone has.
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>>159826057
>>159826158
My lore bros in the house.
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>>159826168
Right has better metadeck legends but shittier golds, I'd go right personally unless you want to play Seraph Haven.
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>>159824961
>Just beat her in the first 2 rounds lol
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>>159825892
Alexander exists, but you can only use him for board clear, the strongest card they can bring out by itself is probably Aurelia for defense of Otohime for offense. Depends on the gamestate.
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>>159826223
i would pick Lucifer to be honest
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>>159825405
bloodfangs is probably only worthwhile if you have a bloody mary to combo with or youre playing bat heavy with midnight vampire. otherwise i wouldn't bother.

>>159826223
def mord, he secures your late game so you can draft the rest of the deck low curve
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>>159825350
You can reroll on mobile then replace your account on Steam with that, Ive done it before.
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>>159826220
>>159826284
Right it is then, thanks
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>>159826223
Lucifer is a gamechaningly good stall in t2

Since madame is eh I'd go left
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Why isn't she played in midrange sword?
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>>159826482
>playing wind god when sage commander is a card
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>>159826375
>>159826426
>>159826470
Thanks guys, went left
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>>159826482
Look at what the other 5 drops do
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>>159826482
Because sage commander exists
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>>159825405
Take out 1-2 Imp Lancers, also you have too many Dance of Death.
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>>159826482
No room anymore, she used to be.
>>159826531
Hey Tempo Forest plays Wind Gods and Cynthias, redundancy is always good.
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>>159826482
Some aggro/midrange hybrids run one or two.
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>>159826482
But she is? Do you people ever look at something that isn't gamepress?
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Why does haven get an Alwida with 90% of the effectiveness for 1/3 the cost?
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>>159826625
>But she is? Do you people ever look at something that isn't gamepress?
you're looking at out of date decklists anon
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>>159826531
Redundancy and she comes out earlier.
>>159825405
Ditch Bloodfangs and the Queen for the 1/2 for 1 vampire, you run her because you fucking want 1 drops out turn one, the rest of the deck is bog standard, if you still lose with it accept that you suck and move on.
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why the fuck have I fought 8 healhavens in a row
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>>159826591
true, but forest needs more ways to capitalize on the 1/1s they shit out whereas sword is more of a value deck. wind god is definitely an option if you wanna go a bit more aggressive though
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>>159826654
First off, Aria is nothing like Alwida's. The strength of Alwida's is that you immediately get the storm, and the ward is really important.
Next, the reason Aria exists is because pre DE no one ran the follower countdown amulets since they all sucked except 1 or 2, and even then Haven was trash. So they decided to make Aria to see how pushed they can make countdown amulets, to see if they were just overall underpowered or if the whole concept was just trash: turns out, Aria was a little too good.
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Is there something planned for the 8th slot?
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>>159826823
One of the most popular decks in the game because it only loses to forest, dshift and niche decks
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>>159826717
Except the latest decklists are the ones with Wind God and 1~2 Gabe?
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>>159826907
Statecraft, where freedom rules.
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Just started playing and used the free packs. Any of these legendaries any good? I still don't even know what deck should I focus on.
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>tfw you open 10 packs
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>>159826980
Forte, Tia, and Vamp are all amazing. Olivia is great for a long time as well. Flute can make a fun deck. Skull and Jeanne really aren't that good.
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Is anyone else having issues staring matches on the Android version of the game?
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>>159826980
Tia, Forte, and Olivia are all fantastic
Queen Vampire is very good but the meta is not kind to her right now.
Flute is meh.
Jeanne might one day come back but as of now she's too slow.
Skullfane is dogshit.
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>bet everything on a single Hallowed Dogma draw that doesn't even proc the Aria I'm using it on
>topdeck my last and animated copy of Dance of Death with it that was the only way for me to win

In all my years of playing shitty card games, that's one of the luckiest and sackiest fucking moments I've ever had.
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>>159827089
>>159827134

Thanks m8s. Those cards are good with any class?
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>Lost to an aggro rune
>At rank AA2

Should i end myself?
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Translations when?
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>>159825812
Does Luna count as a witch?
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>>159827182
I don't get it.
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>>159827198
try reading them, theyre class specific except for olivia
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>>159827251
Otohime, pls.
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>>159827018

I just opened 24 and only got one legendary. A pluto.
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>>159827284
Thanks again, I'm still absorbing everything.
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>>159826930
loses to sword as well
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>>159826980
Wait you got all those with the free packs? Are you fucking serious? I literally only got 1 Legendary.
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>>159827207
>aggro rune
plz does anyone have a decklist? I cant d-shift.
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>>159827414
That's 9 damage, stop bitching. Just pray to the topdeck gods.
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>>159827414
By not taking Razory Claw
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>>159827414
honestly a decent hand
>can deal with your opponent's early game no problem
>if you topdeck well you have insane burst, and since you're going second you get to draw 2
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>>159827228
source?
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is it me or Cygames favours forestcraft?

I mean Arisa is quite literally the protagonist of the main story since nexus is LUHSARIA so this has pretty intense ramifications with elves and shit, but what of the actual gameplay? Has forestcraft ever been shit in terms of power? It doesn't really seem that way, meanwhile look at bloodcraft, the cards are so shit you either go loli bat or spend 2 billions in vials to make a mediocre control deck, what the flying fuck.
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>>159827414
Not gonna lie, I'd probably keep it if I opened it before mulligan if only to see where it goes.
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>>159827498
>>159827536
>>159827618

holy fuck that was a shit game

didn't draw a single follower until like turn 7
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>>159827228
Works for me.
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>>159827814
S-source
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>>159827414

>some men just want to watch the world burn
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>>159827738
cardgames are balanced around making you spend money, news at 11
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>>159827792
A win is a win.
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>>159827719
Its Luna pissing and shitting herself as Lord of Flies turns her colon into a spawning chamber, you dont want source
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>>159827340
>>159827402
I've opened 40 yesterday and only got 1.
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>>159827876
I do
Link it
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>>159827792
>turn 9
Dumb rune should've won by turn 7 with dshift
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>>159827876
speak for yourself, faggot
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>Drop a ward
>Call of the void
>Drop a ward
>Call of the void
>Drop a ward
>Call of the void

HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE IT'S FUCKING TAKE TWO
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>>159827871

Problem is people won't spend money on blood if it's so shit, if they actually wanted more crystal purchases they would balance the game more.

Or are you saying they make one class shit on purpose every couple of patches so everyone rushes to another one and has to buy shittons of cards to catch up?
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>>159827402
Getting only one is below average. You should aim for 5+ legendaries from your free packs. If you haven't gotten too far, I would consider rerolling.
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>>159824256

that is my fetish
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>>159827914
>>159827960
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=59642972

I warned you
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>>159827986
No one cares about Blood.
The most expensive decks, Control Sword, Midrange Sword, and Tempo Forest, are all fantastic.
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>>159828116
>No one cares about Blood.

BOI.
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Why does Eris get so little art when she is the most played class?
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>>159828116

That was exactly my point.

What if they made it so on purpose? Remember it's Cygames we are talking about here, Granblue is literally pay to not kill yourself by the grind, I'm calling it they'll rework blood with the next expansion and nerf everything else all of a sudden, it doesn't help that the decks you listed are expensive as shit, boi what a coincidence!
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BANNER MEME
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>>159828116

daily reminder that shadowverse devs are ex Magic the Gathering champions, it is not farfetched of them to design specific decks that everyone will flock to for a time and then shift everything just to boost pack sales
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>>159827946

Don't think this is a D-Shift player since she's using Scrap Rune and Angelic Sword Maiden
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>>159828369
As a counterpoint though Storm Haven is inexpensive and very powerful. I honestly don't think they're balancing the game solely around money potential, that'd be difficult since it's tough to predict what exactly the meta will end up like and if they want the game to have a strong competitive scene that practice will hurt the game since a poorly balanced game does not a good competitive game make
>>159828332
Does anyone actually like Eris?
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>>159828493

Is one Shota Yasooka?
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>>159824273
>Dragonrider Vania leader never
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>>159828061
>Thanks anon
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Oh boy, time for AMERICA.

Plus some extras I suppose.
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>>159828493
But WotC doesn't do that because people don't buy packs to build decks, and also they haven't banned anything in standard since Mirrodin??
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>>159824256
Piruluk
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>>159828705
>crystals
uhhh senpai?
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>>159826907

Demoncraft.
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>>159827182
>>159827251
>>159827334
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>>159828573

>10k vials
>inexpensive

I'll skullfuck you.
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>>159828573
I like crazy evil Eris.
The Eris you play as is boring as fuck.
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>>159828756
What's wrong? I'm using rupies.
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>>159828914
relative terms you vial starved faggot
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>>159828749

I hope Wixoss gets a PC game one day.
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What deck is the best to shit on haven with? That's 80% of what i see where I'm at so I might as well take advantage of it
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>>159828979
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>>159828978
it's not 0 and it's a number greater than 600
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>>159829018
Sword.
Specifically midrange and control sword.
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>>159828332
Because she is a shitty character from a shitty class that almost everyone playing haven now would drop it if it were not op
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>>159829018
Purgatory Forest
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>>159829018
I do fine with Banner as long as I don't get fucked by draws.
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Anyone that unironically uses the dub names like Vania needs to be shot
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Daily concede onegai:

89755
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>>159829080
Oh, I had some spare steambux from selling random junk from other steam games so I bought some crystals.
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>>159828332

because she is an unoriginal fully covered slut with cronic stupidity and cluelessness, her evil meme counterpart surpasses her in almost every regard
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>>159829118
Vania objectively sounds better than a retard name like Vampy.
It's a vampire girl named Vampy xD so wacky
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>>159829090
She does have some good legs on her though, not lacking in the chest department either.
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How do I send a ticket. This nip is emoting me in arena while I can't get a turn and the game is frozen
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>>159829093
Speaking of that, is there a budget replacement for the Crystal Tia and Ancient Elf? I'm too dumb to think about that on my own.
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>>159824146
Why is rowen the mobile icon? His face screams "shitty chinese cashgrab mobile game". Any other leader wouldn't have this effect.
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>>159829217
Are you playing against Widow mcFattits?
That's dimension shift. The nip is being a faggot for drawing it out though.
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>>159829164

vania oh I get it like transylVANIA so clever xdxdxdxd
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>>159829137

Thanks.
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>>159829141

buying crystals is against the law unless you need to buy vampy
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>>159829272
No it's arena dammit
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>>159829247
Bloodcraft Aggro.
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>>159829247
Batman.
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>>159829018
Banner. It's faster than Storm, will outdamage Elana's heals, and makes Seraph impossible to play.
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>>159828705

Why does it cost 2000 for you?
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>>159829428
Because I already owned two of the leaders in it, cost goes down by 400 for each leader you already own.
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Tourney for friday. 10\16, we're almost there boys.
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>>159829483
>Another discord link

/svg/ sure is tsundere for discords
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>>159829257
That's exactly why. Because us westerners can't take a cute girl as our icon.
Thanks god the Steam icon is still Arisa
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Match ID:93038

Plz help
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>>159829159
Evil Eris is the best, I'm glad that they came out closer to her when they fused in the end. Shame that any more story will probably work back towards Good Eris returning.
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>>159829529
Discord is quick and easy to use, simple enough to get people together to organize this.
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>>159829648
Anon, please don't respond to the shitposter, even with good intentions.
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>>159829648
There's nothing wrong with discord, I'm just laughing at the fact how people keep crying about it but there's three /svg/ discords out there right now.
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Safe to kill this?
Seems slow as fuck and bad
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How good/bad are Zinitra and Rose Queen
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>>159829483
>hearthstone
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>>159829529
>>159829696
you know, you could not mention it

but you're trying to start the shitposting right?
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>>159829251
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Guys I did it!!!!
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What should I do with the 600 crystals?
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>>159829529
Don't kid yourself, the only faggots who do this sort of shit are discord-like in the first place. For a tourney though, it does have a purpose at the very very least.
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>>159829638

I'm fucking furious that after finishing the story you are still stuck playing her braindead counterpart, when they fused togheter and started talking I had a raging boner.

I actually want to know where they'll take the story next, more importantly why the fuck did they choose Losaria of all people to become the host for nexus.

>inb4 she was the first random fag they found
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>>159829817
There isn't.
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>>159829758
He's taking a HS format and tuning it for Shadowverse.

>>159829817
I'm sorry anon but no. Forest needs it's legends, especially Ancient.

>>159829818
Good job.
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>>159829778
Living in fear of shitposters and not saying the things you want to say just because it might trigger someone or make someone disagree with you. Don't let other people ruin things you like for you.
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>>159829817
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>>159829817
It's because there isn't anon.
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>>159829831
save it and buy the daily deals
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>>159829696
Ain't take any sides but anyone can open a chat and call it /svg/, just saying.
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>>159829854
The Shades tried to grab Arisa first, so maybe the just needed an elf body.
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>>159829890
Neck yourself already, you overdramatic little bitch.
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>>159829848
>the only faggots who do this sort of shit are discord-like in the first place
>The discords have 50+ members
>From 100 unique posters
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>>159830019
I mean, tourneys.
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>>159829831
Buy a pack a day with the crystal daily deal.

Don't spend it on anything else, use rupies for other stuff like cosmetics.

>>159830019
>implying they're all from 4chan or that there's any way to know.
Just another reason why that shit is never going in the OP. That would be like adding a link to a sub-reddit or facebook page, it's retarded.
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>>159829972

That's what I want to know, for now everything points to Arisa being pretty much the main protagonist of the game since she just happens to be an elf chasing another elf that was chosen to bear Nexus, everything points to the elves having some connection to the power behind the Morning Star, if you notice every other class gets drawn there due to their overwhelming despair, they either wanted to create a despair condition for Arisa specifically or needed a fucking elf.
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>>159830146
>Just another reason why that shit is never going in the OP.
But it has been in the OP and might be added in the OP in the future.

Just because you avatar with RoB images doesnt give you any right to rewrite what has happened in the past or decide what might happen in the future
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>>159829963
>>159830146
standard packs are better for starting off right?
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>>159826247

As opposed ot?
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>>159830136
>>159830252
She's great.

https://exhentai.org/g/898614/6989eb9c8c/
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>>159830201
Pretending I'm the only person against it doesn't give your argument any weight m8, neither does assuming I avatarfag.
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Do you guys ever liquefy your animated cards?
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>>159830367
You forgot your RoB picture anon, is it time to avatar as medusa again? Or did you go through your whole folder?
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>>159830201
Woah you discord guys are starting to lie into really high weed. You've been forcing it in the OP almost as a one-sided advertising, which is technically against the global rules. Nothing else.
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>>159824256
My way to the garden.
Because everyone
Needs
A mother-
FUCKER!
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>>159830356
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>>159826907
Probably where Nexus will go when she is released.
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>>159830401

>>159830420
I'd say it's one poor shitposter, nothing more.
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>>159830356

I hope to christ this game gets popular enough so we get billions of porn like with granblue
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>>159830420
Yeah who would ever want it in the OP where people can forget it exists and tell people that ask for it to read the OP and fuck off?

Better to have them bring it up every time and every thread so everyone can continue enjoying the gift that keeps on giving.
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What's up with the shadow topdecks on take two lately

Yeah I should play around foul tempest followed by a taunt to avoid lethal when the fucker has no cards in hand
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>Connection Unstable

Wew, that was scary.
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Am I being arrogant when I say 'thanks' after winning a match? I really am grateful for a hard fought match.
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At what rank does it become easy for d-witch? I've only been seen aggro as i'm climbing the ladder.
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>>159830554
>Yeah who would ever want it in the OP where people can forget it exists and tell people that ask for it to read the OP and fuck off?
did you see the thread with a link in the OP?
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>>159830661
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>>159830702
I only say "thanks" when my enemy gives me the lethal.
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>>159830702
If you only say it when you win, then yes.
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>>159830661
>People still call Banner a meme deck
>Incredibly popular tier 2 netdeck played in every rank of the game
It's not a fucking meme anymore.
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>>159830554
Better yet, maybe you can take the hint that discord is completely unrelated to 4chan and thus doesn't belong in a thread OP. It downright damages the health of the thread by discouraging posting in the thread itself and causes mass shitposting when there is one.

If someone walks in and asks "Is there a discord?" then no-one cares if a link is posted, as has been proven in multiple previous threads. Maybe one or two shitposts but that's it. When it's in the OP you get a thread that is literally 50% shitposting. Just stop trying to force it.
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>>159830717
The couple sperglords crying and spamming the thread because people were using a thread not approved by them?

Yeah that was pretty sad.
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So it's easy to uncensor the images and pop back in the Japanese voices.

But I wonder how much it'd take to edit in-game text?
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>>159830829
Are you going to replace it with ERP?
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>>159830823
yeah, so let's avoid that you retard
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>>159829818
Is it that Hard getting 5 wins ?
I think 5 wins in a row is pretty easy.
Hearthstone arena is way harder.
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>>159830804
>If someone walks in and asks "Is there a discord?" then no-one cares if a link is posted, as has been proven in multiple previous threads. Maybe one or two shitposts but that's it. When it's in the OP you get a thread that is literally 50% shitposting

Holy shit
You're so full of bullshit that I can even smell it from here.
>>
>that feeling when just finished all 7 single player campaigns, and buying redeeming packs for the first time
>>
>21/30 of my cards can be played before turn 6
>Have no turn 6 play
Nice game
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>>159830829
Probably a bit harder since it hit steam, I feel like it would have measures against that sort of thing. >>159830880
Literally go up previous threads faggot.
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>>159830702
I really wish there was a proper "well played" emote, because most of the shit we have sounds passive-agressive for some reason.
Like SUGOI SUGOI and other shit.
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>>159830706
D witch is basically a deck for tourneys when you know they're packing a pro or Elena
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>>159830934
Literally read this thread you faggot that cant even quote properly
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>>159830706
Never, d-shift is a fucking horrible ladder deck but a fantastic tournament deck.
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>>159830769
My wife
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>>159830863
Totally anon, totally.
But seriously actually I was wondering how a proper translation would even be implemented.

>>159830934
True, but that might depend on what files the game checks were changed.

I don't think they'd keep the dialogue in the same section as, say, the code for card stats and whatnot.
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>>159830961
You mean the thread that was perfectly fine until people started shitposting about discord not being in the OP? This thread?
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There are how many story chapters for each class?
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should I just buy vania or wait to get 2800 coins to buy them all at once
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>>159830934
It's a Unity game on PC, it's easy as fuck to edit it.
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>>159831074
No, this thread where everyone starts shitposting every time the word "Discord" is brought up.

>>159824290
>>159824362

Starting here
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>>159830996
Your wife summons 2 dudes
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>>159831115
buying all of them is a terrible deal unless you wanna use literally all of them, only 100 coins off per skin
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To celebrate Trumps victory i sold my animated rose queen and bought a 3rd Pascale so i can build the wall

what did you guys do in game to celebrate?
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>>159830791

the fact that it is played everywhere is what makes it a meme you poodle, it's affordable by literally everyone and it is completely idiot proof
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>>159831239
kys'd myself
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>>159831239
Absolutely nothing.
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>>159831252
A meme deck is by definition not a competitively viable deck you goober. You can make it to Master's with Banner.
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>>159831239
I bought a single normal pack.

Got Otohimeme.
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how do you beat dshift as mid sword
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>>159830554
Do you even realize the they're doing in on porpuse? It either being in the OP or not isn't gonna stop them of praising their discord every thread. You can pretty much tell when people are ironic bringing it up and samefagging to achieve that end.
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>tfw beat Elana Haven with Lolibats
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>raped by frenzied juggernaut of all things

Now I want to add it to my own aggrobats deck.
Seems like a non awful last hope weapon, although still hard to justify over imp waifus when you need something expensive.
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>>159831370
Very easily. Just flood the board and you'll win pretty easily, DShift has almost no way to deal with shit like Otohime.
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>>159831252
Well reddit we did it, we made it to the day when the meaning of meme was diluted to the point that it no longer meant anything.
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>>159830791
It moved from being the meme definition of a meme deck to being the actual definition of a meme deck.
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>>159831424
>elana haven ruined my 10 winstreak with lolibats
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>>159831370
you race her? Midrange royal has like a 57~% winrate vs dshift.
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>>159830938
This. Now I'm only using the 'greetings' emote at the beggining of the match, since everything else may look sarcastic.
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Reminder that Trump is going to ban lolicon hentai and take away your autism bux.
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>>159831429
2slow, use Alucard if you really want a 7 drop.
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>>159831375
>Everyone that brings it up is samefagging and shitposting
>But I totally don't mind if someone asks for it in the thread, no sir that's totally okay.

You keep contradicting yourself with every single post you make.
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>>159831424
I did today too!
Fuck haven.
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>>159831429
Alucard by far is the best last hope weapon for bats. Frenzied just isn't good.
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>>159831424
>Bats
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>>159831202
I'm both of them
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>>159831375
>on porpuse
>misspells porpoise
>doesnt follow up with porpoiseful puns.
0/10
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>>159831474
Fuck off and take it to /pol/.
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>not voiced by Ayako Kawasumi
ruined
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>>159831480
But alucard is gay and frenzied juggernaut is a beautiful crazy waifu with massive tits.

God i wish it wasn't awful, i really like the animation on it.
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>>159831495
Nigga, different person. If you couldn't tell from the difference in typing styles then you might be autistic.
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>>159831565
But its poplar anon
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>>159830706
What rank? I'm at 300 pts away from A0 but at 10 winstreak right now. Aggros are common and bad matchup but they misplay too much so it's hard to lose against them.
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How long till this thread hear of Xiei: The Dreamer gook business man?
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>>159831345

A meme is by definition something that gets copied and spreads by the users, memes became more wild as the spreading became effortless with the advent of the internet.

Banner is one of the cheapest decks in the game, therefore being easily spread, making it the quintessential definition of ACTUAL literal meaning of MEME DECK, don't think that because you misused the term "meme" it somehow invalidated the actual meaning of the term.

Calling it memedeck now actually makes more definition sense than before. like >>159831456
said.
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>tfw
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>>159831617
I'm a different person too. If you couldn't tell from the difference in typing styles then you're also autistic.
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>>159831742
Is it possible to get 3 packs in a set of dailies? I've only ever had the 2.
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I'm current at rank B2 and thinking in conceding to rank 3 when get to B1.

To be honest this really worth it?
does the masters are really this try hard?
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>>159831727
But that describes every fucking netdeck, meaning every netdeck is a meme deck.
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>>159831613
Yeah, wish she was playable.
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>>159831845

No because not every netdeck is readily avaiable by everyone due to varying costs.
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>>159831727
following the actual definition for meme instead of the internet-derived definition is silly because it can apply to literally anything. Like every community-accepted idea like language or beliefs are memes.
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IS ARISA LESBIAN FOR LOSARIA?
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>>159830470
>FUNcraft
NO
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>>159831935
Now I'm remembering Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.
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>>159831970
they are pure tomodachi
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>is fighting and despair all you know
Yes it is in fact. When the fuck is Cygames going to nerf these motherfuckers already? I'm sick and tired that 3 out 5 of my games are with these bird and priest fuckers. I literally fucking rope and disconnect and you mother fuckers now. Elf is broken to but at least you gotta do a little roach math while haven is just play want ever the fuck you want from your hand and you win.
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>>159831162
>>159831495
Why come to this thread on 4chan and ask for a Discord link? If someone isn't here to use the general to discuss the game, then what the fuck?
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>>159832002
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>>159831934
Yes but banner sword isn't even the most popular netdeck, by a large margin too. Storm Haven is large and away the most popular, making it the true meme deck. And Tempo Forest is the second most played deck in the game despite being one of the most expensive.
Face it, Banner isn't a fucking meme deck more than any other deck. I'm sick of people acting like they're doing something funny or contrarian by playing a boring, bog-standard aggro netdeck.
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>>159832002
>dub
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>>159831663
B2. It's not like I lose every game. It's very easy to capitalize on misplays with D-shift, but you're still fighting an up hill battle.
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>>159829854
>more importantly why the fuck did they choose Losaria of all people to become the host for nexus.
she's an elf
she's hot
what else do you need anon?
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>>159832124
>weebs
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>>159832034
Because different people have different ways of using this site.

Not everyone is against all forms of socializing and some posters like having a place to talk to people more privately and meet people with similar interests. There's 103 unique IPs in this thread right now and that chat has like 90 or something members so clearly people want it and like it.
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>>159832069

Who said that popularity dictates the status of a meme?
To be memetic something has to spread and be passed down, that's the condition.
Like we discussed previously, what changed the potential of memes was the advent of the internet which granted an easier spreading effect, incorporating in modern memes the ease of use and spreading potential.
By that logic a meme is stronger than another if it's easier to spread.

Storm Heaven costs 10k vials
Banner costs 5K vials

Banner is mathematically speaking the truest memedeck by virtue of being more easily spread, the next in the line is DINGDONG.
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I've got for about 5 packs.
Standard packs or Darkness?
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>>159832228
>playing a weaboo game and calling people weebs
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>>159832317
buy standard, craft specific darkness cards
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>>159832238
then why not go to reddit for a change?

General discords fuck up threads with their circlejerking and drama and that's a PROVEN FACT, it has ruined many a general before. If you want that sort of interaction go somewhere else.

4chan is anonymous for a fucking reason
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>>159830791
>>159831252
>>159831345
>>159831727
>>159831845
>>159831934
>>159832069
>>159832276


What the fuck is going on in this thread.
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>>159832276
How do we explain the 25k~ Tyrant Atomeme deck that runs DING DONG? It's not easy to spread but it's easily the most meme deck in the game.
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>>159832375
ok. I'll post result later.
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>>159832238
If you honestly think all those people are from this thread or 4chan in general, you're crazy man.

Also it's fine for them to do what they want so long as they don't try to enforce it here. 4chan has it's own environment, it's own culture, we don't want theirs thanks.
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>>159832418
>General discords fuck up threads with their circlejerking and drama and that's a PROVEN FACT, it has ruined many a general before. If you want that sort of interaction go somewhere else.

Anon you really sound like a broken record that can only repeat that line a thousand times.
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next expansion when
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>they blow 6 mana to kill forte
>drop another forte

best card
best leader
best girl
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>>159832457
>>159832418
Why would a /vg/ chat go to reddit?
Its literally all /svg/ people there so saying you dont want them here or that you dont want their culture is retarded when they're posting in this thread right now.
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>>159830996
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Just got my first disconnec after a hundred hours.
>heavenshitter
>elana/seraph
>japanese

No honor at all.
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>>159832446
Bah, a new Satan and an Animated Dingdong.
Eh I guess it could have been worse
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>>159832483
Dork Chuuni
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>>159832460
This is the first and last time I say it because you're obviously here to shitpost and it falls on deaf ears. Go circlejerk with your reddit friends over at discord and consider a nice mass suicide for good measure.
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>>159832276
But banner hasn't spread that far overall. Storm Haven is also very cheap and accessible, and it completely dominates the ladder. That means, as a meme, it is much more potent, since it is also very accessible, especially if you don't run moon bunnies, and it's caught on far more. In fact, you could say Haven is the meme class since it far and away encompasses the vast majority of ladder at most ranks. You say popularity doesn't dictate how strong a meme is, but that's complete garbage, since all a meme is is something that keeps being passed on. Since Banner Sword, despite being the cheapest deck, is not the most played, it means it is not the best meme deck. And since it is perfectly viable, it is also not a meme deck in the other definition, i.e. a goofy joke deck.
Banner Sword is a second rate aggro deck. Nothing more, nothing less. You do not "meme" on people by playing it.
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>>159832460
Probably because it's right anon.

>>159832534
Anonymity is a big deal, probably the biggest really.
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>>159832002
I bet you're one of those people that thought Patron Warrior was fucking rocket science.
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>>159832570
>This is the first and last time I say it

Sure and I believe you. Like those guys that say "This is my last reply" but keep replying anyway.

Or that guy that says he wont sperg out at the mention of discord but keeps doing so every time.
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>>159832276
>>159831345
I feel that unconventionality is the greatest metric to qualify for the internet definition of meme deck.

Like if you got into Master's playing a deck no one's ever seen before, then you're playing a meme deck, even if the memes haven't spread yet.
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>>159832534
Mostly because there's no mods.
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>>159832238

I would normally agree with you.

See>> /tosg/

However, we mind our own business and don't shit up the general with in-jokes and namedropping.
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>It's a morde-san carries me to arena victory episode
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could you two autists stop arguing about what is and is not a meme when you both clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about?
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>Mulligan 1 card
>Get the same one back
>Several games in a row

>>159832687
BUT JACK, THE MEMES.
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>>159829854
I kinda wonder why there even was a braindead Eris in the first place? Where did she come from? Also, they probably picked Losaria because she was the most compatible to host the Morning Star or something.
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I did it guys
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>>159832716

The story makes no sense whatsoever to me.
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>>159832596
You can be anon in a chat too, just come up with a name you've never used before and try to talk to people with similar interests since that's why you're there. The only difference between a chat and 4chan is that you can be a giant asshole in the threads and no one will care and doing so in the thread will get you banned/kicked/shunned.
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>>159832717
>5 wins as haven
I am proud of you anon.
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>>159832676
What happened in tosg?
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>>159832276
>>159831345
>>159832572

You are all fucking wrong.

A meme deck is an AUTO deck.
If you netdeck you are a cancerous meme faggot yourself since you just copy what others do.
If you build your own shit with absurd cards that have sinergy but are never seen you'll catch people by surprise.
Unfortunately the only class that can do it is Forest since the main builds branch at certain breakpoints so you can't be 100% sure why that elf is spamming those fairies.
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so while the rates dont change for gold and legend for card 8, there is no bronze card pool which makes it generally higher drop rate for them compared to card 1-7 right?
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>>159832789
No anon, you missed the point entirely. It's not about one person being anonymous but EVERYONE being anonymous and the culture and atmosphere it creates, part of why unwarranted tripfaggots are so hated on 4chan.
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>>159832826

Last time I was there it was just filled with faggots namedropping and high-fiving each other. A lot of cliquey non-sense and general attention-whoring. I suppose it's because it's an MMO, and by its design a social game.
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>>159832901
Same in /rs07g/, the thread is literally ded now.
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>>159832789
The only difference between a chat and 4chan is that one is for anons wanting to just discuss their game alone and the other is for underages&attention whores seeking for dates, personal army and internet points.
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>>159832885
...How old are you again
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>>159832885
You are seeing the odds right there. They are the same.
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>>159829875
y tho
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>>159832891
But chats fill a different niche and need. I go to a /vg/ chat on LINE/Discord/IRC/steam/whatever the fuck if I want to meet people with my similar interests and maybe befriend some.

I go to a board if I want to shitpost anonymously and discuss things without needing a name attached to my posts. Though I definitely agree that trips are fucking cancer unless it serves a purpose or you have a 100% valid reason of needing an identity on an anonymous board.
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>>159832748
Eris wanted to end suffering and all that so she went full cultist and summoned something better left forgotten, the rest of the class leaders are just random people caught in the mess.
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>>159832973
rs07g is such a shithole
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>>159833089
He's a fraud and a hack, that's what
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>>159832748
Okay here's the story
Urias is big man on campus brad and wants to fuck Barthalomew cause he's the only man worth a damn.
Maidlesbian wants to fuck the princes.
Elf wants friendship and is thus an OP piece of shit.
Eris and her superior aryan evil clone want to do the main plot.
Dragspear identifies on all levels including physical as a dragon, but people will not accept him.
Luna wants people to come with her on her adventure.
Isabelle wants the D.
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And look, to be honest, other than arguing about the discord, this is a really solid general.
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I get a lot of good cards for my first roll for shadowcraft.

Any list or tips that i should know?
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>>159832901
>>159832973
A lot of generals will inevitably head that way including this one when there's nothing else to discuss and people get bored/tired. If there's no influx of new people asking shit then its just going to be the tired old players shitposting themselves to death and talking about random shit because they already discussed the topic at hand to death.
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>>159832676
>>159832901
>playing copy-paste chink shit
/tosh/ is basically the universal all evil of this world all together due to it being ragnarok. What are you thinking? Every kind of the worst hell mix there
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>>159832716

>when darkness covers the world the gates annihilation will open

I think it's pretty straightforward.

People are full of despair, so they charge the morning star with their negative energy.
Eris most certainly summoned the morning star since she wanted to help the world, without knowing that the morning star would destroy everything in order the purge it from despair, there's no despair when there's no life.
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>>159833135
>Eris and her clone want to do the main plot
hmm, tell me more
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>>159833156
>really solid general
>goes on and on arguing and shitposting for hours from both sides after someone says the magic word

Yup. Real mature, civil and tolerant general.
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>>159833048
>I go to a /vg/ chat on LINE/Discord/IRC/steam/whatever the fuck if I want to meet people with my similar interests and maybe befriend some.

That's great, I'm glad for you. But I daresay most people on 4chan don't feel the same way.
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>>159833162

You should know Shadowcraft is pretty gimped right now.

Tips: Always bet on Cerberus.
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>>159833237
>>159833237
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>>159833253
>But I daresay most people on 4chan don't feel the same way.
You'd be REALLY surprised.
Walk into one of these chats you've always avoided and be surprised at the member count. There's some retards you wish you had never met but there's some really cool people that you'll enjoy talking to every day.
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>>159832807
thanks anon, post more cute anime religious girls
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>>159833162
Cerb, Howl and Death's Breath are your MVPs, don't be stupid and you can beat most shit because Cerb into Howl with a evo point up is a 11 damage burst against a empty board.
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>tfw you will never dance with Unica
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>>159833089
Yeah, I stopped going there when I thought it was peaking at it's worst. But it inevitably just ended up killing itself.
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>>159833236
So she got consumed from summoning the star and then split into two? One that wanted to stop the whole despair thing, and one that wanted to save the world?
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>>159833279
They wanna be both Junko and Hopeman from Dangit Ronpaul at the same time.

Then they succeed and the game says to be continue.
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>>159831239
I crafted my second Forte. My win-rate has spiked since then.
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>>159833326
Perhaps. But I and a lot of other people don't come to 4chan for that sort of interaction. Myself, I come here to get AWAY from it. If I want to do that sort of stuff there's better places then here.
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>>159832605
You act like I'm saying Tempo elf is hard to play or something. It needs a nerf jus as much as Haven but I don't get so salty over losing to an elfcuck since at least they gotta get the right combo pieces in hand especially in purgatory elf. Haven is just vomit your hand an win. It's fucking retarded.
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>>159833407
They're basically the same person, it's like Persona and Shadows.
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>>159833389
>you will never come on with Unica
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>>159831239
I opened nothing but silvers in my packs

Fuck trump
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>>159833048
>I go to a board if I want to shitpost anonymously and discuss things without needing a name attached to my posts.
You befriend kids irl duo to a game, and get that friends all together to shitpost every other place and form a circlejerk around themselves? That's really great!
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>>159833435
It's just a link in a post. No one's forcing you to engage with it. Seems like you just have a pretty severe case of Stoplikingwhatidontlikeitis.
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>>159833407

She most certainly split when the morning star was first summoned, losing her memories.

The morning star spawns the shades that are charged with despair, that's why they mimick the negativity of who they absorb, notice that every class first deals with a shade with no form, that first contact is what fuels the shades with the inherent despair of who they fight, giving them form.

Next they are all drawn to the morning star by Eris, most certainly because she needs powerful beings to reunite with their negativity on the other side of the morning star, charging it fully so the end of the world may begin.

Nexus is the catalyst of the morning star, you can see that she has power over all the decks in the game thus she needs a random vessel to "play" but in reality it's a mix between all the despair of the other classes.

I don't know what comes next, my guess is that you will have to either confront Eris and split her again or destroy nexus and discharge the morning star, I can assume that all those promises of freedom and liberation are just a ruse to draw people inside it, everyone sees what they desire most in the morning star, it's just an illusion.
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>>159833435
>If I want to do that sort of stuff there's better places then here.
I strongly disagree. This site is by far the best place to do it. We love the culture of 4chan and we come here because there's people that share our way of viewing the world so that's exactly what makes it so good for finding people to talk to.

Other social sites are total garbage because its a lie saying that the average 4channer will instantly hit it off with someone from like Facebook or reddit because both sites are like oil and water. Randoms in MMOs, online games or social sites absolutely suck and its really hard finding a decent human being in these so the best bet we have is this site.

Plus, if you join a chat then its not like you always have to be in it. If you get tired of being there then you can always close it and go browse your favorite board to shitpost anonymously in and can go back in that one chat whenever you feel like scratching that need to talk to someone outside 4chan.
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>>159833089
>>159832973
How is runescape and its general still alive?
I just dont understand how ancient games like that manage to stay alive
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>>159833698
You have a pretty severe case of retardartion and newfaggotry if you don't understand what anon is saying.
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>>159833048
>The only difference between a chat and 4chan is that you can be a giant asshole in the threads and no one will care and doing so in the thread will get you banned/kicked/shunned.

>I go to a board if I want to shitpost anonymously and discuss things without needing a name attached to my posts
Uhh eh? Holy shit, you're fucking retarded.
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Mou, itai janai!
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>>159833753
>decent human being
That's a pretty cute way of saying "fuck ups like me".
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b-b-but the desert is mine ;_;
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>>159833861
>>159833910
>nothing to say
>just goes to the lol you're retarded

good job anon, you sure showed them
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>>159833753
>decent human being
Are you trying to pretend the majority of 4channers are decent human beings? That's a fucking riot. This place is comprised of fuck ups, idiots, and social rejects, with the few good apples being the diamonds in the rough
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>>159833832
game is decent to play on the side while doing something else, there are also plenty of autists who play it all day at max efficiency

the general is a discord circlejerk
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>>159833753
You're hilarious with that failed attempt of parroting and playing the "anon"
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should i keep frontlines in my sword deck
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>>159834029
And we like this place the way it is. That's why I'm here and that's why you're here.
The few diamonds in the rough make it all worth it and I enjoy finding new people to discuss stuff with.
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>>159833832
>I just dont understand how ancient games like that manage to stay alive

It's quite simple really.

Gamers are rapidly aging, kids play mostly on phones.
Oldfags have more money to burn, but they burn it on their nostalgia.
Lineage 1 is still played nowadays by 90% of Korea, it's all people in their 30s and onwards being fixated with their childhood games.

Nostalgia is a powerful ally of the F2P and P2P formulas, that's why legacy edition of games are starting to pop up everywhere in eastern regions simultaneously as mobile friendly MMOS.

The tides are shifting, a new age is beginning.
As triple A gaming dies due to bloated production values and inflating costs, the F2P market rises without stops thanks to simple graphics and rapidly evolving mobile technology.
Fixed units are at a standstill due to Silicon limitations, computers can render so much before generating too much heat to bear.
And what of the profits? Go have a quick search and look at the revenue of global PC/mobile markets against standard console gaming and physical media, it's completely crushed and beyond recovery.
F2P will soon be embraced like DLC and Pre-Orders.
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>mulligan'd into the highest PP cards
>drew 4 more

At least this wasn't arena, or I would be most salty.

>>159834131

Why would you want Well of Life in your deck?
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The more I play this game, the more I think Turn 4 Evolves and Turn 5 removal make playing this game not at all fun. It undermines everything you can do and basically removals strategy of any kind. It also makes every match play exactly the same.
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>>159833992
Why would anyone waste their breath with some discord that's just got spoonfeed?
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>>159834221
>F2P will soon be embraced like DLC and Pre-Orders.

Maybe a good F2P MMO will finally come out if this happens. I'm tired of playing all these mobile games and just want a good MMO that wont make passes at my wallet and expect me to pay up monthly for some hours of entertainment.
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>>159834221
Just wait for room Temperature superconductor
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>>159834318
Crap I meant "Turn 4 Evolve cards." The specific followers designed to be evolved on turn four and turn five are way too strong. They were designed to be ran in basically every deck of that class and I hate how much the game's flow is based around them. Turn 5 removal means you're fucked against aggro unless you have Saber, but luckily she's just going to die to an evolved follower and then the aggro player will go back to constant burn and burst damage
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>>159834240
>2nd
>Mull 3 cards; 4,5,5
>Get back 1, 5, 5
>Draw a 5 and 6 t1
>Draw two more 6's t2&3
And that's how I drew my whole top end.
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>no matter how good the deck is, you will still get fucked by draws

Heh
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>>159834501
I wouldn't even be mad. Better to know from the beginning that you were completely fucked rather then be offered a glimmer of hope just to have it shat upon.
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>when you ruin your sweet 5-0 by trying to be a cute memer.

Had Urd and Leonidas in starting hand. Kept them. Died on turn 9.
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>>159831935
Yes, those are memes. Memes are the singular elements that make up a culture.
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Anyone else want to see evolve reworked? This is what I was thinking of and I'm curious what others think

>Turn 4 Evolves like Cudgel and Dragon Warrior no longer gain any additional stats when evolved
>Anti-Evolve followers like Mushushu and Mini Soul Devil cannot be evolved
>Cards with an evolve effect in general either get no stats, no rush, or minimal stats depending on how strong the evolve is
>For example Levin and Vania only get +1/+1 to account for having excellent Turn 2 stats and evolve effects
>Cards with no evolve effect get the full +2/2
>cards with no effect at all get +3/2 or +2/3
>Storm cards CANNOT be evolved or they lose their storm
>both players get three evolves

I don't see why it isn't already like this. tldr cards with evolve effects gain no stats upon evolving, cards with anti-evolve effects cannot be evolved, and cards with no evolve effects get +2/2 while cards with no effect at all get an additional point either in attack or health
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>>159834382

At the moment a small subscription is the only known method of avoiding cancer such as donations, pay to win and commodities.

The closest we got to the perfect "free" MMO was the first Guild Wars, but they decided to kill it in favour of a cash shop ridden sequel developed by SJW cultists.
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I want to go on an adventure in Luna's butt!
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Nice arena deck

Sure enjoy these turn 1 pegasus into shitstomps with almost perfect curve and constructed healing amulet synergies 2 turns in a row

Wow I got OUTPLAYED so hard
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>>159834653

>both players get three evolves
>first player win rate skyrockets
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>>159834712
>Not already having the "Cave Explorer" expansion
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>>159834653
>both players get three evolves
I mean most of your other ideas are kinda stupid but god this takes the cake. Player 1 would basically win every game.
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>>159834382
A lot of these subscriptions are something like fifteen dollars a month. You're either a cheapskate or underaged if you actually have a problem with that especially considering how big it is to keepup servers for these games and continue to support them.

Just play FFXIV if you want a decent MMO. And if all you do is play "some hours" a month then you probably shouldn't play MMOs or just stick to Maplestory or something.
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>>159834770

Citation needed. When playing first, I always feel gimped when I can only evolve twice while my opponent can do 3 times.
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Do you need to have phone service in order to play the game on Android? Because I'm in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with wifi and no 3G yet I can't get any matches.
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>>159834440
try runecraft, where you just watch your opponent evolve, have no minions to trade into (because you only run like 5 minions), then get removed by a 2 mana wind blast.
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>>159834770
>play dragon
>get first turn
>eat oracles all day
>throw evolved soldiers/proc ironscales at anything that spawns past turn 3
>win by turn 6 with 10 mana and full crew of evolved superdragons

I can see it.
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>>159834770
>evolving as a whole is nerfed
>the turn 4 evolves that cause such a ridiculous power spike are nerfed

I imagine this would prevent the player one winrate skyrocket. And if their winrate does increase, then let player 2 have four cards in the mulligan.

ANYTHING is better than giving them another evolve. This game is based around evolving. Having an uneven distribution of it is fucking stupid.
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>>159834853
>>159834930
I take it you've recently started playing?
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>>159834853
Then you're playing wrong. The difference in win rates between 1st and 2nd is 2-3% at Masters+ iirc.

Seriously, going first requires a different strategy to going 2nd, you can't afford to get sucked into evolve wars and shit.
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fucking olivia everywhere in a rank just ruining games
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>>159834930
How new?
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OMG THIS SHITTERS COMPLAINING ABOUT A BUFF OF 2 2 AND RUSH TOA MINION IS FUCKING PISSING ME OFF.

WHEN YOU GET A RUSSH 2 2 FOR A MINION THE ENEMY WIN A ADAVENTE IN THE ENTIRE GAME OF ONE MORE VALUE FOR EVERY PLAY UNTIL YOU REACH T10
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>>159834997
It's a stupid card, but expect to see more and more of it.
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>>159834853

>Citation needed

how about basic common fucking sense, evolves are used for Tempo, do 1+1 and you'll realize why 3 evolves for first player is fucking retarded
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>>159835036
Calm down anon, now repeat that in english.
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>>159834989
This, if you can't deal with at least a single evolve without a spending a evolve point yourself you're a shitter.
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>>159834997
Olivia is the only card I would literally call outright broken. Regaining all your evolve points after everyone has emptied theirs is simply too fucking strong and the only counter is another fucking Olivia.
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>>159833389
AW YEA!
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Do new players always complain about player 1 only getting 2 evo points because they don't know how to get the best use out of their evolutions?
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>>159834989
I honestly think that 2-3% more winrate for going second is because the additional card more than 3 evolves

Just remove the additional card, and it will be equal.
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>>159834853
That's because you are taking an incorrect approach to the game. First player has a tempo advantage against player 2 by default. Player 2 having 3 evolves helps them even things out.
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>>159834976
>>159834989
>>159835093

Explain take two
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>misplay by sending out too many fairies and leaving my hand short of roach lethal
>d-cuck returns it back to my hand it doesn't finish me off
arigatou!
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>>159835138
I once outlasted 3 Olivias from a dragon opponent has Control Sword without ever drawing mine and had an evolution left until the third one dropped. I also only lost that game because my opponent had a super lucky topdeck that saved him from on-board lethal.
Evolutions are not the end-all be-all strategy you guys make them out to be, and you do not have to counter and evolution with one of your own.
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>>159835106
I'm getting really mad a this everyfucking day the shitters complain about the extra evo point,haven shitty,how blood is weak and how elana is op.

They just start to play for 2 days and want to start complaining about the fucking game.

they don't even beat the story mode and want to start talking about balance.
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>>159835169
>steambabbies in charge of balance
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>>159835138
Abloo, abloo, abloo, as far as wincons go Olivia is tame as fuck.
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>>159835169
Might actually be the case. I find myself running out of cards while going first pretty damn often. You get less evolves to counter enemy efficiently and less cards to start with.
An extra cugel is like an extra card lost for player 1 on top of having less to begin with.
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>didn't even play otomeme in a single game
Still feels dirty, especially turn 5 kill against dragon player.
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>>159835203
Different mode, 2nd is definitely better there and really should be fixed.
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>>159835282
Alright, now do you feel better that you got that out?
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>>159835203
I win going first all the time in t2. Draft some god damn removal for once and stop relying on evos to carry you.
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>>159835338
Yes, thanks for hearing me.

At least meme president won the election today
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What does ramp mean?
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>>159835151
New players to card games in general don't understand the overwhelming advantage that the first turn player always has and how the second player needs shit like extra cards and a bonus evolve point just to keep up.

If you go first and got a bad hand of all 4cost followers, you can skate through those first few turns barely taking any damage.

If you go second with that bad hand, you take the full brunt of damage that the first-turn player got who perfectly curved 1,2,3,4.
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>>159834976
>>159834989
>>159835093

Tell me what I should do to any of the 4-drop evos.

Removals like Dance of Death? I will be handing the priority back to him.
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>>159835552
playing big stuff faster than you're supposed to
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>>159835325
Exactly.

I dont understand why the 2nd player have 1 more card when going second already give you the evolve needed to reclaim the control on the board from going behind.
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>>159835552
Ramp means to permanently gain extra mana.
While you might think it's just named that because you're ramping up your maximum mana, it's actually named after this bad boy here.
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>>159835691
>Dance of Death
When mostly of times the 4-drops are pure for the control of the board and not a big threat?
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>>159835718
They get an extra card because before, second player only got the extra evolve and the turn 4 evolve, and they had a pretty bad winrate compared to player 1. After they added the second card, they STILL had a worse winrate, but it was much better. It was only post DE that going second shot ahead a little.
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>>159833135
>Dragspear identifies on all levels including physical as a dragon
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>>159835797

You ought to explain to me how a 5-turn clock is not a threat.
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>drophacking in unranked
>on the first turn

Really nigga?
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>>159835874
Then what happened in DE? Something must have changed
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>>159835691

4 drops only shift the board, even the most broken ones like Floral
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>>159835967
Haven got too much shit.
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>>159835947
gotta test them out before using in ranked man
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>>159835895
Anon you are really forcing some dumb shit here

4 drops = cudgel = dragon warrior = dragon fancer . They don't are a a big drop of 7 8 8 they want to control the board clearing and swarming with they shitty things.
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>>159835967

shitton of heavencraft cards that boosted the class immensely, the class that is now most played and that shifted the global winrate
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>>159835183
first player's tempo advantage is ridiculously small if he doesn't mulligan perfectly while being one card short. even besides that, there are cards with fanfare effects that rely on an opposing monster being on the field. if you have of them, it's a dud and you end of passing your turn. the only thing the first player can do is throw out followers and hope nothing happens to them.
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>>159835973

You are staring at a minimum of 10 damage to the face next turn when they drop the banner if you fail to remove any of them.

>>159836063

Stop sounding like decent-sized followers won't kill you.
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>>159835691
Well, there's a wide variety of answers to the turn 4 evo.
First of all, you can try and set it up so they don't get great value out of it. For instance, you can flood the board instead of just having two targets for common ones like Cudgel or so you have more board presence post Floral Fencer. This way it is not a complete swing of tempo in their favor.
Next, and most common, you can respond with your own evolution. If they only have the weakened 4 drop evo on board, this will swing things back in your favor, assuming your minion does not die.
And lastly, you can use removal. Expensive removal isn't ideal, but it still kills the threat. But better is to use cheap removal and then play a cheap follower, so you have tempo again.
You can also just choose to not deal with and just play a few followers; perhaps you've got a board clear next turn or you have your own 4-drop evo and want to get better value out of it than just one minion, so you're trying to bait them. Remember, you don't always have to evolve to gain the board back: sometimes it's better to hold evos until you can get even more value.
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>>159836123
4 mana + evolve point = Dance of death for you?
What a value played here
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The card database site isn't missing any cards, is it?
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>>159836114
>first player's tempo advantage is ridiculously small if he doesn't mulligan perfectly while being one card short
No.
He has the mana advantage. Even if he doesn't curve out perfectly he can play bigger threats and better/more answers faster. This is the true power of player 1: his extra mana. Being one mana off a board clear can be the difference between a win and a loss.
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>>159836123

your advantage is knowing headfirst and preparing for it, there's a reason people tech their decks

>angelic barrage
>dance of death
>you have now invalidated a whole evolution point without using yours
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>>159825278
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>>159836310
If you are looking for something is probaly in the story mode
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>>159836321
what's the point of the mana advantage if you can't even evolve them on your fourth turn. your floral fencer will also be a dud and you pretty much give up the tempo to the opposing player if he has one too.
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>>159836457
>me curvestone me cant play card on curve game broken
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>>159836005
>>159836067

Thanks for the information pre-DE. Started when the steam release.

How was shadow before the DE expansion? They nerfed shadow because it was too strong before?
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>>159836457
Git gud, goddamn.
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>>159836350
Okay, I'm just making sure it's fine.
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>>159836515
>hurr durr i can't handle reasoning so i'll herpaderp instead
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>>159836537
DE give Garuda and Elana to haven

Haven have a lot of banish low drops
Shadow need deaths to get good
Shadow now is in hard times because haven is a famous decks is not like they are strong they are just the natural and famous counter.
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>>159836457
That's not the point.
Player 1 gets one whole extra mana to respond with. For instance, let's say you're playing dragon, and your opponent just played a 2 drop. Your hand is a blazing breath and a few 3s, and when it gets back to your turn you draw a 2 drop. If you were going second, all you could do is play your 2 drop. You'd be behind.
But if you're going first, you can play your 2 drop AND play blazing breath, giving you the tempo back even though you didn't curve out. Because you had that extra mana, you had more options, and that's really powerful. Sure your opponent gets to evolve their floral fence before yours, but you can then evolve your Aurelia in response to his floral fencer, or play a 2 drop and a 3 drop and evolve one of them, or play a 2pp removal spell and a 3pp follower and evolve the follower.
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>>159836598
I'm not the same guy but you probably should play more the game and understand how powerful 1 mana of advantage is .
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>win 3 matches as haven daily
>just started the game a few days ago and don't even have cudgel
>spend 3 hours trying to make something work
>2 wins
>almost lost hope
>turn 3 of this game
>pass turn
>nothing happens
>keep waiting
>figure the game is stuck for some reason
>I got all day senpai
>he disconnects
>daily deed done dirty cheap
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the problem with turn 2 is there is no 5 mana card that can overpower the 4 mana evolve cards. First turn has to burn an evolve or use dance of death both of which will put them at a massive disadvantage if there's more than just the enemy evolve on the field.
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>>159836537
Shadow wasn't nerfed, Haven just kind of shits on Shadow. They have an uncontested board clear for follower spam and they have lots of good banish effects, and since Shadow is very midrange-y and relies on shadows both these factors kinda fuck them over.
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>>159836794
Geez, you guys need to git gud.
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is there any way to beat Elanas Haven as Earth Rite Spell?

Every game so far, the Haven player has had two themis sitting in hand so even if I bait out one before played Pascale, I still get crushed by the second and any progress I make is just erased by all the dumb healing the deck has.
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>Gem golem + Pascale

Holy shit, Alchemy decks are so fun.

Cagliostro skin when?
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>>159836794
Get
Fucking
Good
And hey, there's way more removal in the world than DoD, much of which is far cheaper. Once you stop being carried by brainless aggro decks perhaps you'll figure a few things out.
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>>159836935
My wife
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>>159836935
decklist? i've been dying for a control earth rite list
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>>159836956
>there's way more removal in the world than DoD, much of which is far cheaper
only for havensluts
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>>159836794
As anon above said there's multi cast solution. You could drop a follower and something like blazing breath for 2 mana.

The problem here is that it pretty much requires to have a perfect hand for situation.

Give player one a second draw. That's all.
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>>159836956
>tfw Sieg doesn't need to evolve to do his thing
Life is good as dragonfag.
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>>159837041
What is Deathbrand
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>>159836794
git gud or stick to hs
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>>159837120
1 card
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>>159836956
You keep parroting that, but all stats show that control and combo decks benefit much more from going second than going first. Only shit that will sprint to the finish line and doesn't care about running out of steam, like aggro bat, benefits from going first, which is why second is also immensely overpowered in take two.
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>>159837041
>What is wide-souled swing, undying resentment, deathbrand, sylvan justice, elf child may, blazing breath, fire lizard, every fucking runecraft card, storm followers used defensively, razor claw, vampiric kiss, angelic barrage
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>>159837041
It really isn't limited to heavensluts.
As an example Siegfried comes out and drops a fencer without even doing anything for 3 mana.
Then you can follow up with something else for 2.
Likely giving you a better result than what guy droping fencer just paid evo point for.

The problem here being, you obviously need to have those things in hand and not DoD otherwise you are sort of fucked.
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>>159836537
Shadow was tier1, but still had a very bad matchup against Haven due to its abundant banish and ability to heal back up from burst.
It didnt really matter because Haven was shit and was barely played by anyone.
Then DE came and made Haven one of the most popular classes in the meta
Shadow was in no way nerfed, it even got some very good cards, it just happened that a direct counter got a massive boost in playability.
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>4 tempo elves in a row

Well I didn't want a win anyways.
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Which do I take? I already have one Olivia but I'm bad at this game.
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>>159836736
that's only assuming you have the correct cards for the current curve. floral fencer will always be useful for the second player but the same can't be said for the first. you can't always rely on getting the 5 drop just because you went first. if i have a 2pp removal spell and a 3pp follower that i can evolve, i can take out the 2/2 and finish off the 4/3, but there's still the 1/1 left. second player still has the tempo advantage and also has an extra evolution.
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>>159837201
Sieg is 4 mana, I wish he was 3 though because why not.
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>>159837240
Left for sure
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>>159837192
literally git gud
most of /svg/ are in aa0 and masters and have an above 50% win rate going first.
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>>159837240
left
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>>159837240
>satan
>last resort 13/13 monsters
>Oliva
>wins early
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>>159837310
oh right. Well, still leaves 1 point to drop dragons wings or a lizard, kek.
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>>159837240
Early curve+olivia. Satan can fuck you in the ass even if you play him because the 13/13 for 5PP is fucking worthless.
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>>159837002

Your wife is a man.

https://exhentai.org/g/986664/8aa53edf27/
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None of the big 4 drops should get damage or health from evolving. They already get way more than 2/2 worth of bonuses and right now all they lose is 1/1
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Anyone here play Shadowverse and other TCGs like Magic or YGO?

I am absolutely loving SV, and I'm wondering how it stacks up to other TCGs. It already absolutely shits on Hearthstone and what I remember of YGO (although I haven't played tournament YGO since around 2008).

Is Shadowverse the best modern TCG? If not, what is?
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best urd targets in each craft? I want to make a lot of decks revolving around my cardfu.

I already use her in shadow and Garuda.
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>>159837409
was*
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>>159837151
I'm still wondering why the winrate of going first and going second doesn't add up to 100%?
Are there some calculations that I missed?
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>>159837179
And Petrification?
And Fiery Embrace?
And Crimson Purge?
And Wild Hunt?
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>>159837332
And their winrates are even higher going second outside of two whole decks
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>>159837329
>>159837347
>>159837405
Thanks senpaitachi, wish me luck.
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>>159837458

Depends if you consider souls to have gender.
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>>159837416
Yes, I play Shadowverse alongside YGO, CFV and WIXOSS, SV is pretty, though I wouldn't call it the best.
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>>159837481

>Petrification

A tech card most of the time

>Fiery Embrace, Crimson Purge, Wild Hunt

No one runs that. Go fuck yourself.
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>>159837434
I see some people Urding a Goblinmount Demon...
So it seems that your cardfu already has a husband.

In Dragon you have Aiela/Forte and in Sword you have Leonidas for funsies.
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>>159837192
Going second is not immensely overpowered in take two.
Look, you fuckers have to stop blaming your losses on going first and learn how to use it to your advantage instead. Learn how to properly use evolutions and, this is important, WHEN to use your evolutions. You'll notice most decks still have an above 50% winrate when going first: that's because it's not a big disadvantage at all. As an AA player, I can tell you I really don't care whether or not I go first or second, except against aggro, where I REALLY want to go first instead of them. I win most games, regardless of going 1st or 2nd. And this is coming from a CSword player, which has the biggest winrate boost going second. It's not as big a factor as people make it out to be, and people calling for these ridiculous balance changes are so out of touch it's hilarious.
Same thing with t2: I don't care unless I draw like shit. I average 4 wins and I never blame any losses on going first or second.
Evolves are just like any other resource: you can gain evo advantage by forcing your opponent to evolve and not use one of yours in response. Next time you go first, you should try playing with evolution advantage in mind, and see if you can play out your cards in such a way where you can achieve it.
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>>159837396
Lizard is 2mana it would be broken as 1 mana
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>>159837508
I hope you go 1/5 but I'm salty right now playing take 2 as blood out of forest and runecraft.
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Question from a climbing C2 shitter! I finished a well-off tempo forestcraft that's helping me climb. I'm not sure whether I should fix up an Aggro Bloodcraft or Garuda Havencraft deck next; I don't need it to climb necessarily but moreso to spice up playstyles from time to time. So, I guess I'm trying to ask: which is more fun?
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Why does evolved ding dong look so much sluttier
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>>159837570
But they exist and are answers if you think that the 4 drops are unfair and don't run cards considered good to be a good counter you should re think if the 4 drops are really that op.
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>>159837528
Of those games, how would you rank them from best to worst? I'm somewhat interested in YGO and Cardfight, although CF seems like the most simplistic of the games I've encountered. Haven't heard of WIXOSS.
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>>159837416

I recently picked up Weiss Schwarz. It's even worse RNG than most card games, but it's fun beating up my friend's stacked deck of Fate/Zero servants with my school idols.
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>>159837608
It would be pretty broken, I'd hate if they made a 1pp pinger. Especially in a class that can continuously replay their cards. That would REALLY suck if I were playing an aggro bat deck, let me tell you.
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>play first
>you drop a 2-drop
>they blackened it on their turn 2
>you drop a 3-drop
>they blackened it again
>you drop a 4-drop that doesn't have defense over 3
>I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS

Gee, so much for going first.
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>>159837648
banner
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>>159837709
Shouldn't have been weak, fuckboy.
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>>159837651
She wants to ding your dong.
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>>159837467
what's the size of the gap? i suppose it's possible to draw by double ko or dc
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>>159837707
Arisa is my waifu
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Reminder to remove all elfs
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>>159837707
1/2 for 1 PP pinger, have fun.
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>>159837648
Aggro is possibly the least fun deck archetype in existence.

Chuck together spell rune, mid shadow, Elana Haven or Seraph Haven if you actually want to have fun.
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>build storm haven deck for Murrica
>first pilot test in unranked
>it's another storm haven deck
>our first few turns are complete mirrors
>spend the entire match emoting at each other after every play

Damn that was fun, definitely made the right choice in deck.
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>>159837709
That's not even that bad a hole to climb out of, since they bascially only traded an evo point for a card. Baldy can do way better than that. If you had a 5 drop that contested him without an evo point you could potentially gain an evo point lead.
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>>159837664
WIXOSS is literally filled with cute girls like pic related, it's a pretty fast game but sadly is JP only.

>how would you rank them from best to worst?
It really depends if you're playing casual or competitive.
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>>159837709
>your opponent has been behind the whole game and only got the advantage on t4, which you still have ample opportunities to get it back with your own evolves or removal
Yeah damn you got really destroyed huh.
>>
I want to have sex with Isabelle and cum on the first thrust!
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>>159837709
Are you me? That just happened two games ago. Face Dragon is a coin flip sometimes. A question of whether or not they other can still you out enough.
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>>159837821
Admittedly most of my interest was from Vampy, so thanks for the alternatives. I'll look into Elana/Mid-Shadow.

>>159837729
tempting
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>>159837905
>The story of anon
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>>159837907
All aggro decks are coinflips when it comes down to it. Either you draw well enough to win by turn 6-7 or you die. There's really no middle ground.
Worst archetype of them all.
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>>159837846
I can read runes but slutty anime girls don't appeal to me anyway so if the actual mechanics aren't so great I'd rather play something else.

Asking from a competitive standpoint, I guess.
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>>159837821
Good thing Vampy is super fun and cute.
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>there are people in /svg/ who can't handle going first and think going 2nd is op
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>>159838008
There's a lot of them too.
Fucking scrubs need to learn how to play.
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>>159837931
>Admittedly most of my interest was from Vampy
Pedophile
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>>159837821
I unironically enjoy playing aggro decks so i'm not sure why it's considered as the "least fun decks" in most card games. I mean, i understand that the the room for decision making is pretty low, but otherwise, it's just as fun as many other decks. That's just, like, just my opinion, man.
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>>159838008
luckily i only play aggro and i love going first
>>
Do you only get those 20 darkness packs and 10 regular packs when you reroll or is there more im missing? I've rerolled like 15 times and usually get 3 - 4 platinum cards when people say to stick with like 7 - 8...
unlucky?
>>
>>159837832
>>159837864

The thing is that second player is still winning even if they trade one to one card because they have the advantage of starting with more cards in hand.

And what 5PP can contest a 4/5 without it being an even trade?
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>>159838102
Keep rerolling
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So I'm looking for crap cards to liquidize.
Anything in here I can liquidize?
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>>159838073
Shit taste.
Aggro decks are boring as fuck. They're insanely linear and they rely on luck more than any other deck archetype except maybe combo.
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I want Shadowed Assassin to give me Ambush so I can sexually harass her while nobody can see me!
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>>159838073
I enjoy playing Aggro sometimes, but playing aggro is like playing the 1/3 that u can do in the game
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>>159838008
Going second IS better for every class except blood. You can look up the win rates - every other class has a higher win rate going second. By going second you have the advantage that you can be more liberal with your evolves instead of just evolving defensively to remove big threats. Most classes have an OP 4 drop that can swing the tide of the game when evolved on turn 4 as well.

The only time I would ever want to go first is if I had a fantastic curve and my opponent was playing face bats.
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>>159838102
3-4 is the average
getting 7-8 is as likely as getting 0-2
its the quality of them that matter
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>>159838187
Crush that meme angel.
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>>159837994
YGO is horrible since it's pretty much play the best deck or fill your deck with cards anti the best deck or lose.
Vanguard is more shill since you have a good number of great clans together fighting for the top spot, a clan is pretty much another name for craft.
WIXOSS is also pretty fun when it comes to competitive scene because it's in a similar position as Vanguard.
Also YGO doesn't have mulligan.
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how far can banner get me i just turn C rank and also everyone i fought against disconnected or conceded
>>
I started playing yesterday and working my way through story for the cards+rupies.

Besides Take Two, is the only way to get currency through the missions and story? Or is it like HS where after every X amount of games/wins you get a little something?
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>>159838073
>i understand that the the room for decision making is pretty low
So you understand why its not fun. Why would you want to play a turn based game with no decisions? Like, how is that fun in any way? You may as well just watch a movie.
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>>159838284
Master's
>>
You just got turn 1 against Haven and are currently at turn 5. On turn 4 he activated his aria and then evolved a cudgel to wipe your board while keeping the cudgel alive at 4/1 with both aria beasts at full.

what cards does your class need in its hand at that exact moment to not lose right there?
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>>159838187
arcane enlightment is useless, you basicly skip a turn to draw
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>>159837467
Because going first and going second doesn't face the same opponents. If you add up the first and second rates of all decks, then you'll get 100%.
>>
88000

Concede please!~
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Which one is more important for a Swordcraft deck? Saber or Otohime? I'm asking since I can craft one.
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>>159838260
>>159838357
Alright, cool
What about Chorus of Prayer? It seems like at that point of the game, it'd be kinda useless.
And any of these?
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>>159838440
Depends on the deck you're running desu family.

I'd say Otohime is more of a tempo swing.
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>>159838356
I need a gun.
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>>159837151
46 1st and 61 2d always gets me
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>>159838356
Dragon Warrior, Priest of the Cudgel, Playful Necromancer, Angelic Barrage, Elf Child Mays with some luck, White Paladin, Aurelia, 2 drop + Ironscale Dragonfolk, a good Fire Chain, Magic Missiles + Wind Blast
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>>159838484
Petal fencer and Vania.
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>>159838491
I have almost everything for a mid range one but the lego, so that's the deck I wanna make.
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>>159838579
>Petal fencer
Oka-
>and Vania.
Waaaaait a minute
>>
>barely 4k players on PC
So one more week until die right?
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>>159838484
You can kill everything except Vania, Roach, Tempest, Elana, Howl, Scholar, and Wind God. Those are all keepers
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>5 days away from home
>the game threw 3 sader at me

Please. I don't want to play midrange sword. Give me some atomy for pete's sake.
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>>159838665
PC was a mistake, already battled 7 hackers.
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>>159838417

Thanks a lot!
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>>159838707
How do i hack myself some vials?
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>>159838484
Ghoul's banquet, petal fencer.

Shadowed assassin and rogue's creed are used in a not very good sword deck so those can go too.
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>>159838356
>cherry picking scenarios in an RNG game
you are boring. go away
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>>159838748
You buy a shit ton of crystals and then use them to buy packs
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>>159838073
>>159838189
>this meme that aggro decks are "low-skilled"

Except most pros in card games will tell you that actually being good at aggro is much harder than control because you need to quite literally predict what your opponent has in hand so you know when to trade, when to push, and how what you should commit to the board.

Where-as control decks are almost entirely reactionary to what your opponent is doing. And their biggest thought process is "how do I use my removal most efficiently"

The only thing different about Shadowverse is that the removal is very scarce or premium in cost for most of the classes. Plus there aren't many efficient board clears.

The game is also insanely tempo oriented. Like if you aren't using all of your points every turn, you're probably going to lose. Even as a control or combo deck.
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>>159838782
What about Arthurian Light?
>>
>dragoncraft player drops that phoenix card that halves PP cost for both sides
>lets me drop a banner and an orders on the same turn, killing him

thx bruh
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Dust?
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>>159838803
a scenario that happens in 90% of haven matches
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>>159838316
you get free stuff for logging in daily, and for achieving score milestones which reset every month. when you're new you also have achievements that can be unlocked once
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how am I supposed to out-value this elvish PtP witch?
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>>159838906
I wouldn't personally dust an animated card.
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>>159838906
That card is actually good.
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>>159838825
I never said they were low-skill. I just said they were insanely linear and they relied a ton on luck.
>The game is also insanely tempo oriented. Like if you aren't using all of your points every turn, you're probably going to lose. Even as a control or combo deck.
Not even close to true. I play CSword a lot and I have inefficient turns all the time. The classic turn 5 evo White Paladin without playing anything else!
I also play a lot of Seraph Haven and I've just straight up skipped turns with no problem and often float a mana or two. If you're playing control, you do not need to be that efficient. You can be very slow with the right decks.
>>
Elana's prayer is bullshit!
It should not work when the leader is full hp, it should be 0+1.
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>>159838356
Blood and bats, since he cleared my board I still have my Castles and then I summon 1-2 bats alongside Vampy and let the damage kill him because I already pushed for a ton of damage in early turns.
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>>159838858
Can also go, costs too much for most decks.
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>>159838994
In what deck?
>>
>Grinding ranked with Midrange Sword yesterday in A0
>Dont make progress
>Switch to a variant of Face Dragon
>Actually make progress only stopping because I only wanted to reach 12k score

Why is playing uncommon decks so fun

Mine runs Shapeshifting Mages which has the benefit of making opponents panic if i drop them on turn 6
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I don't know what it is, but something out this game feels super boring & even more streamlined than Hearthstone.

What is the control deck of shadowverse?
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>>159839165
Control Sword, Seraph Haven.
Also Control Shadow and Control Blood but they suck
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>>159838919
*yawn*
if it's that bothersome to you then tech counters. otherwise accept it's a bad matchup for you. that's just how constructed card games are
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Robin Hood is such a sick card. I love it.
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>>159839126
Bloody Mary
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>>159839274

That is pretty standard, mate. You only get 150+ rupies on 5 wins. At least you didn't get any salt.
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>>159839165
>but something out this game feels super boring & even more streamlined than Hearthstone.
Lack of cards, lack of mechanics, lack of decks to play.

Honestly hearthstone and hearthstone clones are garbage but MTG has failed to produce a PC card game with mass appeal.
Duels came close but they were stupid about it.
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>>159839274
Could be worse.
>Claimed
>Standard Card Pack Ticket x1
>Rupies x120
>20 Vials
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>>159839353
How did MtG gain mass appeal anyway?
>>
Nobody will ever run 3 odins, right? Worth dusting one?
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Which Haven variant uses Moon Al-mi'raj?

Or at least which one uses it the best?
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>>159839447
By being the first ever tcg of its kind?
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>>159839513
I wish this horny bunny was in a better craft instead of the cancercraft
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>>159839513

Sunlight Satan

It is an old deck.

http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/kou-formula-sprint-satan-bishop/
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>>159839558
>cancercraft
>not sword or blood
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>>159839447
Same way D&D did.
Was there early enough.
Was marketed just enough to gather a crowd and became a household name among nerds.


Wizards knew their business desu.
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>>159839513
Storm.
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>>159839513
Storm
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>>159839583
That decklist is outdated though right?

It doesn't look quite viable. Is there an updated version of it, or is it really still good?
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>>159839274
I would kill for 2 packs. Quit complaining.
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So I heard you guys want a deck to clear dailies with.
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Aria is a perfectly balanced card. Just win before it activates
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>>159839759
Unfortunately I dont have all those legendaries, so eh
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>>159839759
Too expensive on legendary side.
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>>159839513
>Or at least which one uses it the best?
My dick.
>>
>>159839165
Are you saying magic is boring or SV?

SV is more enjoyable than HS in just about every way. Games generally last longer and face decks, whilst still viable, don't have the same presence they have in HS. The card designs on the whole are a lot more interesting and the evolve mechanic adds a way to come back in the late game.
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>>159839619
>Let me just give my minions +1+1 everytime I heal myself and stall the game granting me insanely effective trades
>Oh and it's a 3 cost

Yeah, totally not cancer.
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Thanks for the help /svg/
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>>159838240
Bats is kind of an interesting case study. I think it's the only major deck in the meta that doesn't run an evo power play on turn 4, which I imagine plays a big part in why it prefers first.
>>
>>159839827

>hallowed dogma
>smug hag.jpg

Your move.
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>>159837664
Cardfight's a deceptive game, it's filled with stuff that gives you an impression and then all the opposite turns out to be true for good and bad. It's actually very low RNG in practice despite having a semi-random "crit" mechanic and rather than being too simple, the game actually gets too complicated in meta play with the amount of mechanics and information you need to keep in mind for every match up.
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>Plays 4 legendaries in a match
>Still loses

Good job focusing on my leader instead of clearing my field, bitch.
>>
>>159839904
Initially I wonder whats the problem with Elana while I was climbing to rank A since I generally beat them

Then I met actually good Elana players in Rank A who actually save their Elana to activate in tandem with their Beastcall Aria and so activating and it becomes a nightmare
>>
I just won 5 games in a row in A0 unranked with discard dragon. Thanks unranked!
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>>159840127
I find that the ones that know when to use Themes decree are the good Elana players.
>>
>>159839904
I beat elana decks 100% of the time with midrange shadow and combo spell.

It really only hard counters scrubby face decks.

Most people don't even play the elana variant anyway.
>>
>>159840231
When I was playing Midrange Sword, I was legit surprised that the Elanafag I was facing had all three Themis Decrees in his hand

Like, I was intending to bait his Themis Decrees since I had all three Otohimes, but I didnt expect him to actually have all three in his hand

I ended up winning because after that he had no way to clear my board
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>>159840107
>scorns him for playing legendaries
>wins with a legendary

Silly anon.
>>
>>159839908
I want to plow Forte.
>>
>>159840408
It's the only legendary I have for shadow.
>>
>>159837416
Force of Will is a great and cheap MTG alternative if you don't mind the lacking secondary market. My favourite physical TCG at the moment in terms of gameplay and aesthetic. Can be a bit tough to get into depending on how popular it is in your area, but there are online sims.
>>
>>159838707
I dont think this game has hackers. Care to explain? I believe you're full of shit and just bad
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>>159840475
Its the best one to have, Cerb would be my wife if Mimi wasn't such a bitch.
>>
>>159840475
>Its okay when i do it
>>
Crafts ranked from honest to cancerous bullshit

Dragon
Blood
Sword
Forest
Rune
Haven
>>
>>159840559
when hs first got big there were all kinds of people who swore that there were draft hackers
>>
>>159840582
>Mimi wasn't such a bitch.
It's such a pity for you, rawr.
>>159840669
I'm not complaining about the legendaries(I'm still mad that I barely have them), but the fact that she focused my leader and lost because of it.
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Any control shadow player thinking that beel needs some buff of sort? He just seems to die too often enough.
>>
>>159840725
>best dragon deck is face
>best blood deck is face

>not cancer
>>
>>159840725
Dragon = Sword = Blood > Rune > Forest & Haven

Dragon, Sword and Blood deck are very honest, you can always trust a Dragon to have fatties, ramp up, have power plays, a Sword to always shit out weenies and a Blood to believe in "You dies faster than I do!"

Not so much Rune, Forest or Haven, Rune at least gets points for always playing spells and eventually you can tell what a Rune player might do given situation. But for Forest or Haven? Hell no
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>>159840901
The shit he summons needs to have a ward.
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>>159840836
I would be happy over that they did that without getting lethal.
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>>159840852
His mistake was playing Elana on turn 3

When early tempo is so important against Sword, you dont want to spend a turn doing nothing

>>159840901
The thing about Beel is that he already puts down a lot of value the moment hes played. Just putting him down already makes the opponent scramble to remove him

This gets super hilarious if he is then revived by Ceridwen or Rise of the Dead
>>
>>159840725
I don't mind Dragon in the meta, I mean it's really not that good, but by design it's one of the least interactive crafts and requires more subgames than others. I don't think it's cancer but it's the opposite of honest.
>>
>>159840901
I wish we could know what he'll summon, but he's pretty okay.
>>
>>159838284

master, but you shouldn't go that high or you will be destroyed when doing dailies of other crafts
>>
>jap rune runs the turn counter down every turn

I guess he's dshifting me in real life.
>>
>>159841198
>Sandbaggin
>>
>>159841064
Dragon can actually get a pretty good control game going, but it eats up your hand really quick and is hard to keep going without Rites.
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>>159841198

I'm actually scared of this.

I made a banner deck but after they told me that ranks can't be lost once you reach a X0 it made me think, isn't it better to avoid ranked and farm dailies with beginner players? My take on it is that the more you climb the harder it becomes to finish them quickly.
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>Foul tempest a forest craft field
>He concedes

The game wasn't even decided yet. Fucking forestbabbies
>>
did i do good
>>
>>159841490
i sandbagged at rank d for a month before ranking up and i regret not staying there
>>
>>159841545
He probably figured he doesn't have enough numbers left for math.
>>
Should I put the discord in the next OP?
>>
>>159841490
Essentially

I only decided to climb to A0 once I decided that I have been getting good win streaks in B3 anyway so why not

That and I already have viable decks for every class in the game. The last question was "Do I want to sandbag" and I realize I am too proud to sandbag in the end
>>
>>159841631
(You)'re asking for a reply?
>>
>>159841676
I'm doing it!
>>
>tfw been using the same not-even-fully-completed Sword midrange deck for a week and bored of it but have no materials to make any other decent decks
>>
>>159841583
You got two useless flutes, but the other three aren't completely awful.
>>
Can I get a concede up in here?
53057
>>
>cudgel into themis into cudgel

B A L A N C E D
A
L
A
N
C
E
D
>>
New thread: >>159841984
>>159841984
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>>159841490

You are not wrong.

D rank is a lot worse than C for farming though, expect a lot of netdecks desperately trying to climb with streamer decks and mirror matches.
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>>159841940
Did you d/c anon?
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>>159842059
I think it did, oh well Thanks anyway.
>>
>>159841757
The grind is abysmal.

Seriously considering quitting.
>>
Help me boys

50301
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>>159843427
Got you covered, Mr. Salty Skeletal.
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was so scared when I pretty much bricked
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Just pulled an animated Fafnir. Does he see much use?
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>>159845016
but it was alright because I made the greatest comeback ever
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>>159845141
Golly!
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>>159826907
Minecraft
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