World of Warcraft General - /wowg/

New OP this time. Added in some more useful shit and cleaned it up a little.

0-4 Orc Monk
5-9 Belf Monk

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Xth for being a bully.

>>159668015
>nostcucks still mad about how based ion blew them the fuck out at blizzcon

>go to level DH
>shitty boring demon blades is still the best talent for dps'ing
Almost makes me wanna not fucking play it.

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>>159668015

Meanwhile. on QUALITY private servers...

>>159668012
>inb4 you get banned for cyberbullying
GMs!!!!

860 Unstable Arcanocrystal vs 845 Faulty Countermeasures for assassination rogue, which one do I use?

hi fallaa

>>159668012

saying autism in-game is a great way to get banned

I know from experience

>>159667998
Yet you didn't remove the useless shit

how do i fake achievements?

>>want to make a Horde plate tank, already decided on pally.

Moocow or Belf?

>>159668189
Probably arcano but sim it yourself you retarded cuck

i've done like 10 mythics and every single piece of gear dropped is not as good as my heroic gear

but it takes five times as long to get a group

this is dumb as shit

>>159668552
>takes five times as long to get a group
Join a guild

>>159668492
Belf to trigger wowg

>>159668492
elf

>>159668012
>>159668296
Never forget the DK discord

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>>159668064
How can one man be so based?

>>159668552
>/g I'm starting a group for x. Who's keen before i list?

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How do I make a guild? I want to create a guild and call it AA or Autism Awareness. I'm going to ask people if they want to help spread awareness by joining my guild.

>>159668626
i should
but i don't know how, i'm just in a mass invite guild

>>159668825
advertise in trade, that's what everyone else seems to do.

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>>159668804
>>159668015

He's still directly responsible for Demon Blades being the best talent currently when they explicitly said they would keep it at the bottom.

It's been weeks and nothing has been done. So that's at least one aspect of the game where I lost respect for Ion.

How do I gear up at 860?

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How much of an asshole am I right now?

>>159669182
If you were on Moonguard I'd help a brotha out

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6/7m woo free cutting edge tomorrow :^))))))

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Oh boy, there's more.

>>159669278
gz anon

>>159669278

post close up of your sexy body :)

>>159669172
Kara, m8+ and h or m en

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>>159669426
Its no use, you have failed. Mght as well just kill yourself since your life's work failed

>>159669571
i-i-in shadow form or not?

>Can transmog hidden appearance artifacts and still progress towards Kills\Dungeons\World Quests
Oh thank god.

>>159669426
man you really want to throw your account in the trashbin don't ya

Finally decided I am boosting a paladin. How is their class hall campaign?

Shaman just doesn't feel as good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM40cK5tu7w

Defend this retailkeks.

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>>159669571
h-h-here you go...

>>159669970
Are they killing a big stone?

>>159669997
I'd love to give this punk some of my spunk if yanno what I mean

>>159669182
what server are you on? I'll make an alt to sign.

>>159669182
i'd love to help a eurobro out but i'm on NA
sorry

>>159670171
sylvanas.

I have accepted that Shadow Priest might have a skill ceiling too high for me, I can't even come close to do a third void torrent with 857 ilvl and 31% haste.
How are balance druids and locks?

Late reply because fuck working in customer support.

>>159664040
>highest burst healing
HPriest here, and I'm laughing.
My serenity crits for near three million, on an instant cast, pre-buffs. Double that if artifact proc is up.
We're the only class besides Paladins that can instantly top a tank from 2%, and it will leave a 100k hps HoT on cast.
I can stack that HoT up to half a million every second and on up to three targets at once, for 10 seconds each, before going back to dropping sancts on full melee group for a million each, dropping feathers for mechanic focused people and yanking dumbasses out of fire with Leap of Faith.

Not to mention Divine Hymn remains to be the single strongest raid heal cooldown in existence.

DPriest is a lot like SPriest. The potential is there, but only with the best players with the best gear. Nine times out of ten you're going to see Holy topping Disc in anything but highest Mythic raiding.

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>tfw log on
>dont feel like doing emissaries piled up on 5 characters
>dont feel like doing keystones for my weekly chest
I've officially moved into the phase where I log on for raids, clear, and log off for the week with this expansion. Anybody else?

>can't interrupt flag cap with literally any baseline spell as affli
wtffff

Hello im wondering if i should buy WoW with legion so i could get a free lvl 100 and jump right into the action. Ive tried out the starter trail and found it rather boring. Would it be worth buying legion and playing if i found the trail boring?

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>>159670335
>>159670337
Shadow Priests aren't that fucking great, they have inflated numbers because of Xavius mechanics.
Whats funny is blizz is so stupid they're going to nerf them into the dirt regardless and I'm going to kek like a man possessed

>>159670463
affli has __A__ weakness?

WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NO SIR-RE

>>159670449
We're all waiting for Nost at this point, there's nothing to do AGAIN in retail

>>159670449
nope. I'm still logging in to get AP on my main as well as level a prot pally to do 5's with some friends.

I also farm here and there on my other 110 though I only do around 2-4 emissary caches per week.

>>159670532
if you dont have anyone to play with its not worth it

>>159670449
Nope, I'm having a blast spamming m+ every day, they're just that great senpai

Also nothing feels better than doing big dick dps with 2 best legendaries

>>159670337
>My serenity crits for near three million, on an instant cast, pre-buffs. Double that if artifact proc is up.
We're the only class besides Paladins that can instantly top a tank from 2%, and it will leave a 100k hps HoT on cast.

Thats nice, but I'm talking about raid healing.

The most important fight this tier is cenarius

the best disc parse
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Qb1Tt6N3hnqCXmBK#fight=5&type=healing
is nearly 100k higher HPS than the highest holy parse, while the peaks are even further ahead
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/W3QpDm1ydYRgMwxt#fight=19&type=healing

The average player is better off playing holy, yeah. Holy is much easier and more typical of other healers.

Disc is MUCH, MUCH better in the right hands though.

>>159670585
lmao my dude, shadow is top on so much more than just xavius

>>159670449
>Hit 870 iL
>Got Curve
>Got my Legendary
>Got 30 corrupted essence
>Leveled three alts to 110, realized I had to grind AP and do Suramar all over again and gave up on them

I'm with you. I was only logging in sporadically until I picked up Dragonball Xenoverse 2 last week to act as a time-filler, but it's so fucking fun I haven't logged into WoW in three days

>>159670585
Nah, SPriest are good, you can tell from logs and from playing one. I am simply a scrub.

Could you gear up solely from PvP?

I have an alt I don't really want to do anything with other than PvP, I was just wondering if I'd actually have to put in the time to do dungeons and raids and shit to get legendaries or whatever, or if that would even help much.

>Seeing 845 ilvl world quests
>Emissary cache still poops out an 835

>>159670628
So you're waiting to play the 12 year old version of the game? More power to you then, I remember Vanilla and I just have no interest in it at this point. I do wish all you Nostfans the best though, hope it works well for you, just not my thing to play.

Ele or enhance as an offspec? Also, does anyone have any resto tips for a first time healer?

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How's my PR?

>>159671103
enhance is much stronger, but its easier to transition from healer to caster than healer to melee.

>>159671112
toad whats your angle?
you trying to get banned so you can buy legion and get a free boost?

>>159670734
>Disc is MUCH, MUCH better in the right hands though.
But he said just that later on in his post.
>DPriest is a lot like SPriest. The potential is there, but only with the best players with the best gear. Nine times out of ten you're going to see Holy topping Disc in anything but highest Mythic raiding.

>>159671281
Bored during dungeon queue downtime.

>>159671347
Do people set out to be average players though? Playing holy instead of learning disc and gitting gud is settling on mediocracy

>>159670337
>>159670734

what if you're primarily a 5-man casul like me? i just tried a dungeon as the new disc for the first time and while noone died it felt weird to HAVE to dps an enemy to heal. what if mobs just die too soon, then all you have is your shadowmend. it feels like there are some situations where you just can't do anything to save your party from dying, and old disc never felt like that to me.

Any good alternatives to Angry Keystones? This thing spams the fuck out of my chatlog with errors, some issue it has with calculating the % of enemies killed a mob is worth.

>>159671518
for 5 mans disc is def not great. you can make something work with a grace build, but its just not really what disc is for.

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>mfw I see all those legacy servers cucks troubling Ion when he's giving his all to finally make a good expansion.

>>159671613
>sanction nost, let them require a sub and give 50% of the sub fee to blizzard
>blizzard does 0 extra work
>vanillacucks get a server to play on
>blizzcucks get to not hear vanillacucks whine anymore
>blizzard gets free money

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>>159671607
ah man, i'm gonna miss comfy old disc

>>159671613
>Legacy servers
Can't wait for all the nostalgia fags to realize how bad vanilla actually was

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>>159671784
>how bad vanilla actually was
>people are still playing vanilla a decade later
>MMOs live or die based upon how good the game is on release

i think you might be retarded mate

>>159671975
>>MMOs live or die based upon how good the game is on release

mostly true but ffxiv showed how it could be turned around

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>>159670734
>the best disc parse
>the best
There's that word again.
This isn't Dark Souls, mate, this min-max tryhard razor's edge shit isn't relevant to anyone but those already in the top 2%, and nobody in that tier is going to be asking for class advice on a public forum.

If there was a class released whose rotation included hitting your cockhead with a hammer on cooldown to edge out 100k over everyone else, sure it would be the "best" class, but that doesn't make it relevant.

Stop drooling over logs, stop sperging out over e-celebs, stop pretending you're ever going to be half as good as the edgelords that treat this game like a career.

TL;DR Holy > Disc
pic related

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>>159671774
>haven't played properly since wotlk
>get legion
>"oh yeah i'll get a disc priest it will be great just like wotk!"
>boost
>go instance
>mfw

>>159671975
See... this nigger right here is going to quit before he even reaches level 30 on legacy

>>159672097
We've just got different philosophies man. You're happy to settle, while I always want to get better.

>>159670337
>serenity crits for near three million
I've gotta ask

How did you do in Overflow?

>>159672143
jokes on you i only play on private RP servers now

>>159672120
my feelings exactly

>>159671774
>>159672120
>>159672315
>muh reddit bubble spam

H*ck off, your shit spec was broken for over 3 expansions

>>159668492
I think belf models look awesome in plate and with a shield.

Tauren are too overly large, don't get shoes and their pauldrons are retardedly huge.

>>159669278
>that log
hEH

>>159672097
This so hard it hurts.
>Pick a class and spec I relate to and find enjoyable
>Want to find some other people to play with
>WHY ARE YOU PLAYING THAT CLASS/SPEC LULZ ITS THE WORST
>I manage to do alright, sometimes better than the people bullying me
>Point this out
>MUH SIMS MUH LOGS MUH PARSE
This game used to be comfy. Logs were a mistake. Recount was a mistake. While I'm at it item level was also a fucking mistake.

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Goddamnit I hate RoP so fucking much

Literally the most anti-fun caster talent there is

>>159672556
preach

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>>159671613

How is WoW? I've actually never played before and for some reason it looks interesting. I mean, I'll admit, the graphics look pretty abysmal, but other than that I think it looks like a solid game. Is it worth investing time into (nothing hardcore just something to play between work, gym, etc.). Or, is it like SC2 where only the few remain?

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r8 n h8

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>>159672426
>le i dont like it therefore its reddit meme

Is there any reason why these faggot mages never make portals? Before when it had a reagent it was still considered polite to leave one after a successful raid or group. This xpac I don't think I've seen a single fucking one.

>>159672856
If you're just getting into it, the game can feel pretty lonely because most people are max level, so you're not getting the best game experience that people got when everyone was levelling alongside eachother. Most WoW players aren't hardcore in any sense.

>>159673069
isn't it just assumed that everyone queues up from wherever they already want to return to, so a portal is a bit redundant? back before WoW was just a menu game you had to actually go to the dungeon, so people would appreciate a portal to get home afterwards

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How do I improve muh looks?

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>>159671613
Did you even watch the Q&A? This guy is clueless and in no way responsible for Legion's success.

>>159673220
I'm talking about proper raids and mythics. In heroic I don't expect anything.

>>159672856
Not if you won't raid, there's honestly not much to do besides that an pvp is terribly balanced

>>159673270
use transmorphic tincture then orb of sindorei

>>159672426
Man I loved that reddit bubble.

I fucking hate rets

>>159668651
>>159668654
>>159672483
I ended up choosing Belf.

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Ummmmmmm hello?????

>>159673809
DELETE THIS

>>159673809
>minigamers

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birds..?

>>159673809
Oh, is that all? That's only half of your health. You can heal that off no problem, right?

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How have you improved azeroth today /wowg/?

>>159673834
Why?

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>>159674186
killed kirin tor scum

>>159673809
>doesn't interrupt
>doesn't line of sight
>doesn't cc him
>"uhhh why did this slower-than-a-snail ability do so much damage"

>>159673954
only with a ball gag

>>159674320
>pet with my only interrupt is actually in line of sight of the other warlock for once
>he has interrupt immunity
G G

>>159673069
You've got a Dalaran hearthstone and portals to everywhere from there

>>159674253
it's a meme u dip

>>159673270
>have to level alt
>i'll keep my wowg friends posted on my wacky adventures

>>159673954
I like that the harpies have good looking thongs now...

>>159673069
Because you have multiple hearthstone and probably a teleport to your class hall and by proxy dalaran

>>159672231
>DPS takes a hit, at 1% health
>Oshit buttons, guardian spirit and serenity
>FIVE MIL CRIT LOL
>Completely filled his health
>And then filled it with a full bar of absorb
>And another bar on top of that one
>Watch him die in my arms
Fuck you for making remember that hell.
It's the one downside to Holy, we depend on overheals for half our rotation.

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>paladin class hall mount

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>create MoS level 9 group
>dps cuck whispers me this

>>159674186
My futaworgen found and mounted five different Hordies today.

It was a real blast.

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Post your Mythic+ album/songs when you go BIG DICK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNOxgKf2qYo

>>159675137
Take his money and kick him.

>>159675193
Got logs?

How the fuck did my party just wipe 4 times on first boss vault+5 and disband? I'm just a healer so I don't know any tacs but I've done that boss so many times on different difficulties and I don't understand why they couldn't kill him.

If I wanted to do all types of content, what would be the best Warlock spec, do you think?

Affliction?

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>>159674186

What's the most comfy healing class and spec now that requires the least spamming?

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>>159675463
the follow-up

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>>159675216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aQBkCrpWOg

>>159675137
Definitely do this >>159675250

If he threatens to report you just reply that he only stipulated that he get invited, not that he complete the instance with you :^)

>>159675884

who is that japanese spunk punk?

>>159672096
By completely remaking the game after issuing a public apology. Every other case i recall has either ended in cancellation or switching to p2w

>>159676038
My wife.

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r8 my spelladin mog for going thru kara

>>159676271
ugly as sin

>tfw almost doing 200k dps
as a healer

>>159676568
how? i can't even do 180k as 850 dps .....

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They added a bunch of neat new stuff to the Blizzard store

Now I can finally be a female draenei IRL

http://gear.blizzard.com/warcraft/wow-draenei-robe

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when your guild is so bad you get "do the fight like a retard is in charge" achieves on mythic

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Why is he so based bros?

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Why are they so based, bros?

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post cuties

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>>159677189

>>159677189
>low res armor
ew

>>159677252
>>159677278
i said post cuties these are NOT cuties

>finally get a lego after 2 months
>prydaz

fucking kill me

>>159677338
It has great utility.

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Daily reminder to remove mythics

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>>159677189

when the h*ck is the tmorph jew gonna update his sh*t

I wish I had a friend like hairytoad to do low level dungeons with...

>>159677526
Woah..........so this..........is the power...........of hunter players........

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r8 me.

>>159677526
Wait, what?
But Mythics are piss easy? Unless they're talking about Mythic+ which I don't think is required by anything but I may be wrong I guess?

>>159676801
Not him, but for trash i get off sunfire before slipping into and spamming

It makes healing a lot more interactive as a resto druid and exciting when you overtake someone on the charts

Ultima Online >>>>>>>>>>>> Nostfags crying for vanilla

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>>159677526
>this person is on my realm
URGE TO KILL RISING

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Objectively correct opinion coming through.

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>>159677526
I actually agree. WoW is supposed to be comfy. I don't like this drive towards incrementally increasing challenge.

>>159678159
I can't be the only one that sees the paladin mount is a donkey or mule?

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The WoW forums are literally a hivemind

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20751435804?page=1

You know blizzard is shit at balancing specs when bear aoe dps is better than cat aoe dps

>>159678240
>incrementally increasing challenge
Is only at the top end. Mythic raiding is harder than it was before, but everything else, from leveling to dungeons to solo max level stuff, has gotten easier.

>>159677819
They mean normal mythics, which is even sadder since you can just make your own group and it fills instantaneously. I don't understand why they scare people so much. They're piss easy

>>159678357
The make your own group only applies to heals/tanks. It always gets a smile out of me when I see all these groups with 3 dps waiting for tank/heals.

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>it's another episode of DPS cuck ninjapulls and leaves your mythic+ run

>>159678159

there should be another tier beyond shit just for the paladin mount desu senpai

>>159678357
They are, but you cant imagine how bad most of the people are.

In a mythic plus run last week a hunter flamed me because I didnt keep aggro from the aechers in BrH

>>159678159
i hope the shaman ele changes from fire/wind/water despnding on spec, just so i can see people get even more mad about how much better it is than the rest

>>159678356

but this tier is the quickest mythic raid tier ever completed (18 hours), even faster than naxx25 in wrath (which was completed on the second day of the expansion)

unless nighthold changes things, this is the easiest tier of mythic raiding ever

>>159678159
Why do priests get a cooler looking owl than druids?

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>>159678159
>This will only make even more FOTM rerollers play shaman.
Stop playing my class.

>>159678679
Vanilla wasn't difficult.

It just had a monumental grind and gearing process, along with fucking lengthy attunements.

Doesn't make the encounter harder, just meant there was more bullshit you had to get through before you could even attempt the raid, even if it was "out".

>>159678510
I am fairly new to the game and only around 840 and I made an LFG for court of stars and arcway yesterday and tanks and healers joined instantly. Granted I assume it was because it was a quest.

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When's 7.1.5 PTR?
They said "right after Blizzcon"

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>>159678679
there was no mythic raiding in wrath you newfag.

>>159678679
Due to shit balance with shadowpriests, an awfully designed final fight and people overgearing the content due to tintanforging

mechanically this tier is harder than anything before cata.

>unless nighthold changes things, this is the easiest tier of mythic raiding ever

Unless something changes, I expect nighthold to be even easier.

The first guilds to kill M Nythendra had 865iLvl average, 15 below the ilvl of the tier.

The highest ilvl guilds already have 885 ilvl average, 15 ilvls below the tier. They still have 2 months of grinding to get that up to 895, plus a whole new raid before nighthold releases. Nighthold is gonna fall fast as FUCK unless blizzard changes the way they tune.

>>159679027
vanilla/bc normal = wotlk 25 heroic = cata/mop heroic = wod/legion mythic

I have two questions for someone that plays Discipline Priest.

1. Does Schism increase the damage on the Artifact Weapon ability?

2. What are the particles that start appearing on my feet and then start swirling around me? They seem to come and go for no reason.

>>159673272
Ion Hazzikostas GAME DIRECTOR for WoW.

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>>159678593
>mythic EoA
>lead keeps typing "wtf" in chat, growing increasingly angry
>increasingly nervous
>we wipe
>panic and alt+f4
>don't log in until hours later

>>159678987
Soon(tm)

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>main paladin
>done everything this week
>all 3 specs are geared
>start leveling one of my alts
>its painfully boring
>don't enjoy playing any class but my paladin
>people are complaining about this expansion being alt unfriendly
There's actually stuff to do and I've never been so unmotivated to play

>>159677526
He's got a good point to be honest, making mythics something every player has to do to progress was a mistake. Mythics for a long time are seen as optional content to casual players.

But blizzard have changed the game from a long leveling experience, to all about end game content which many players wont be used to. The word mythic spooks them and it doesn't help that the player base isn't forgiving after doing content the first couple times. In a world where you reach level cap in less than a day and Ilv means everything these people are uncomfortable with what it takes to get there and much preferred LFD. and the thing is there's a large amount of players who don't want to make this jump from LFD due to how they've played and how blizzard have implemented it. poorly they fucked up helping casual players adjust

>>159679027

post a close-up of your ass :)

>>159678159
>>159678874
>People actually like the Shaman mount

It's way too fucking out of place compared to anything else in the game, using that on ground is going to be a janky mess

>>159679119
Schism is shit and you want to take the extra bolt

i have no clue desu

>>159678159
>High Tier/Mid Tier
Swap Priest and Monk
>Shit Tier
Move paladin down to an even lower separate tier
other than that gj

>>159679232
As a shaman I don't like it, I think it's way over the top. But you know, plebs like MUH BIG MOUNTS to grief players blocking npcs and such.

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>>159679116
There was no 25 heroic naxx.
There was no Heroic anything Raid wise until ToC, which was the start of this multi difficulty cancer, Even Uldaur had only 10 or 25 and hardmodes on some bosses that awarded extra loot but were not "heroic" anything.

>>159679394
as a shaman you are objectively false

>>159678159
>reskinned proto drake
>yet another frost work but this time green
>high tier
The paladin mount is literally the most paladin type mount you can make.
>not liking big fluffy owl flight form

You people are all faggots with awful taste. Kill yourself

>>159679504
why do you have to post the same picture with each of your posts?

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>>159679504
25 man was called heroic mode at the start of wotlk you cata babby , please stop acting holier than thou while being wrong

>>159679606
How else could you know its them without seeing the avatar?

>>159679504
you should've bought a pass instead of that jewhelm so you could avatarfag properly nerd
>>159679606
he's retarded

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>tfw I didnt get my first legendary until a few weeks ago
>tfw it was the meme neck
>Other people of similar ilvl are outperforming me because they have legendaries that massively reduce their biggest cd or have some insane dps boost
>Try to do at least 5 mythic+ daily and whatever else I can do to boost my legendary chances

>Even if I get my second legendary I'll still be outperformed by people who got the emerald dreamcatcher, oneths intuition or impeccable fel essence

>losing will to login, just sit in my order hall all day
>feel worse than before I got my first legendary

Feels pretty terrible, lads.

>>159679534
>The paladin mount is literally the most paladin type mount you can make.

This, like I see people crying "why do Paladins get yet another horse" but riding an armored war horse is literally one of the signature traits of a Paladin, going back to like early D&D where they could summon special armored mounts (sound familiar?)

>>159679684
Someone gave me a bnet gift card, literally the only way Im ever gonna get money on my bnet account, so I figured may as well buy a hat with it, I pay my subs with gold now anyway.

>>159679761
>playing a reddit spec
you should feel terrible laddie

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>>159678537
are you frustrated?

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>>159679761
>be rank 1 parsing shaman
>get all 3 legendaries i wanted

the system works

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>>159679534
>>159679915

The problem isn't that it doesn't look like a Paladin mount you spergs, the problem is that it's a shit fucking design. Looks like something out of a disney movie.

Actual good Pally mount coming through.

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>>159680067
Not really, I looked him up on wowprogress and saw that he's a trial in a fucking Chinese guild

Log onto his realm and messaged his GM about it, and he said that he would look into it

Looks like I got the last laugh :^)

>>159679761
>got my first legendary yesterday
>it's only good for boss fights

oh well, still handy

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>>159679213

>>159679606
I don't post the same picture, in fact I never post the same one twice. I just attach screens to posts cus why not? its an imageboard, I'm posting images, some people like them, some don't but Im not gonna stop just becasue some anon objects when myself and some other anons clearly enjoy what we are doing.

>>159680229
>wanting a mount that literally only looks good with Judgement

but why
it's bad enough they made a Silver Skin like that already, don't make the fucking class mount based on it as well

What do stars on the minimap represent?

>>159679169
Grind dailys... sorry, WQs.. for rep and shittier gear than I have. Boring raids. Tank long ass H or M dungeons where I out damage shitty dps and out heal shitty healers. Pray to RNGeesus for an upgrade. There is nothing "fun" about Legion.

>>159680516
how new you are

>>159680516
rares you never killed

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is Shal'aran the greatest quest hub in the history of the World of Warcraft?

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>>159680427

would insert my flaming ashbringer into/10

DK seems p fucked, blood or frost?

Unholy is boring

>>159680229
>judgement meme
>wanting a mount that only looks good with a specific set of armor
Once again, please kill yourself

>>159680908
Tank master race vs Sindragosa hijinks

>go into Withered Training on a char I just hit 110 with
>Get gangraped by the first mob because I wasn't paying attention at all

lol

i'm a retard

>>159681031
But are Prot Warriors any better as a tank?

>>159680759
no it's garbage

IQD was infinitely better

so was golden lotus dailies

>>159681214
You probably shouldn't do that

>Shaman got Earthbind Totem in 7.1
>Not mentioned anywhere

>it's not reremoved yet

So, what, was that intentional then? Was assuming it was a bug.

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so i've been playing a lot of Enhance and I've enjoyed it a lot. My only problem is the RNG involved with getting Stormstrike procs. If you don't get procs you simply don't deal damage and that feels pretty shitty sometimes

what are the least RNG-y melee specs that are fun?

I was actually thinking about picking up a Demon Hunter since they're so godlike in M+ and also have great single target options, but I'm also thinking about Retribution and Windwalker

>can't do anything without curve
>most mythic key groups want someone 10ilvs higher to boost them
Fuck im starting to do content for the week and just log out.
I want to level an alt but going through the base game and like 5 xpacs makes me want to fucking kill myself, why haven't they buffed heirloom exp by like 5% with every new patch its getting silly.

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>>159679178
That's a fair point. But I still don't understand why they are scared of normal mythics. They melt in world quest gear. Does blizzard just need to do better advertising of what normal is? Hell when I made my own group it said the recommended level was 830.

>do kara
>guild tells me there MUST be ranged for curator
>get a moonkin
>he keep standing miles away spreading electric all over the place
>end up with multiple sets of sparks because we have to run across half the room to melee them thanks to moonkin
>replace him with an enh shaman
>one shot curator next pull without him even filling half the room
Last time i listen to the ranged meme.

>>159681339
Ret actually has very little RNG in it unless you specfially talent into it, which is odd considered for all of WoD it was Procs which Proc Procs while Proccing Procs for Procs.

>>159681339
WW has pretty much no rng

i wanna carry rbgs and farm honor for prestige
which class should i play
my warrior doesnt work for me, i guess because i cant get a pocket healer

>>159678356
What I mean is that it's impossible to be good enough these days unless you're the top 1%. There's always something marginally harder you could be doing.

Like when you complete a +7 (which is exhausting and totally not comfy) you don't feel achieved because now you have to do +8 right and then +9 and these are impossible unless you have dedicated friends or guilds and maybe even still.

What professions are good in Legion? Should I just grab two gathering professions while I level?

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>it's a day without moonkin buffs episode

>>159681989
Alch makes loadsamone as always.

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>tell raid to stack
>they don't

>>159682047

>took away mastery snapshotting

yay

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Do you guys still like elves?

>>159682235
you're ugly

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>>159682235
Demon hunters need to be purged

>>159682235
i liked them before they got their square butts

Tauren Shaman
or
Tauren Monk

Who will win tomorrow?

>tfw hit 870 ilvl
gonna make it bros ... only 10 more ilvls to be in the cool kids club

>>159681543
so it's totally viable to talent for no RNG? Is it worse?

>>159681680
none at all huh. Just crits I guess?

do you know if DH has any RNG?

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>>159670772

Jesus Christ get a life. Imagine if you applied that work ethic to working out? But you probably won't you Cheeto puff'd faggot

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>>159682814
>853 ilvl but casual as fuk
it'll get higher though

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>>159682647
Statists.

>>159681268
>he liked golden lotus dailies
PLEASE end your life nostalgiafag

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>>159682814
>hit 880
>don't feel any different than when i was 870

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>tfw when the talent you hated and argued autistically against online was good all along and now you shamefully use it

>ordered a race change hours ago
>got charged for it
>still haven't received it

great, time to make a ticket

>>159681807
pls respond

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>tfw blood DK

should i just reroll brehs

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>pay us to use your key

since the patch my loot window dissapears rly fast ... what the h*ck

Do you guys still do your normal mythics for AP or is it better to just spam M+?

>>159683042
MORE

>60 Lock and 60 Mage on Stormrage A
>Originally planned 100 boost one of them but didn't
>Now 60 War on Area 52 H
>Same story being retold

So what fucking class should I level this time so I can not boost them after hitting 60 again?

Most of my characters are almost exclusively FDwarf and FGoblin.

>>159681518
>guild tells me there MUST be ranged for curator

wut

Way I've been doing it everyone stacks in melee.
What strat are you guys using?

I usually get everyone stacked in melee, then all move further down the hall as a group when the aoe spawns. Makes killing adds easier, since they spawn on and jump to random players, and controls the floor AoE well.

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who /880/?

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>>159683740
I do all the stuff that can drop a lego .. leave nothing to chance.

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Should I level my demo lock or my hunter to 110 next?

Does hunter ever get better? Because as of now its boring as sin

>>159683297
No? Are you total dogshit or something? t. frequent 10+ runner and 7/7H blood MT

>>159683913
Does that even happen though? I must have done literally hundreds of Mythics and I haven't seen a single lego drop let alone gotten one.

>>159683938
>7/7H
>something to brag about
lmao what

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What -exactly- did he mean by this?

>>159683935
No, and neither does demo

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haven't played since launch month

resub now or wait for 7.2?

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>Using bad itemized items/trinkets just to boost you're ilvl

Gotta love these shitters.

>>159683787
I feel you on that one

>bought legion on new account cause lost my old one
>boost a rogue to 100 on tichondrius
>level a DH to 108 and make enough gold for a few tokens
>level a monk to 96 on Stormrage
>level a mage to 50 on Stormrage
>level a shaman to 50 on Area 52

I've had the game since its release yet not even one character at 110. Hopefully gonna roll with my orc shaman for a while, enhance and ele both look fun. Resto is a pretty good healer too anyways.

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>>159684092
>mfw i see shitters using the horn of cenarius/cocoon

>>159682898
The only RNG procs ret has is the reset on Blade of Justice and Divine Purpose procs.
Your build is dependent on your artifact thought.

You spec Blade of Wrath for the BoJ reset and you spec Divine Purpose but only until you get all the artifact slots that extend the duration of Avenging Wrath, then you switch to crusade

>>159684076
Alright then which class is better to play from a ranged dps standpoint. No fun involved just pure damage

>250k burst as 101 enhancement shaman
whaddafack :DDD

>>159683978
I've seen 2 drop in mythic and 1 in heroics.

>>159684281
But cocoon is good

>>159683838
>cocoon

Jesus Christ don't you have anything better or do you just equip whatever ilvl is higher?

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TANK
>Gets blamed for everything
>Gets called shit if you lose threat on skittish
>Responsibility
>Find PUG in 5 seconds
>DPSers constantly licking your balls

DPS
>Never gets blamed for anything
>Only gets called shit if you don't do good damage
>No responsibility
>Finding a PUG takes 30 minutes
>Forced to suck tank's and healer's dicks


So should I play veng or havoc on my DH?

>>159683297
I'm not a tryhard by any measure but as a healer I gotta say blood is my favourite tank.

>>159673113
>>159673321
Oh....Well that's disappointing to hear I guess. I've mostly been playing Skyrim and I felt kind of lonely playing such a big world all by myself. I was sort of hoping WoW would be worth but it doesn't sound like it. Thanks for being honest though y'all.

>>159683245
What talent?

>shitty darkmoon flasks literally cannot be used at 110

what the fuck blizzard

they vendor for pennies too, what a waste of an inventory slot

>>159684281
>>159684281

So its not just me? people in my raid group have been trying to get the fucking cocoon for weeks - but isnt it realistically a piece of shit Maybe Im looking at this the wrong way - but aren't you just putting more pressure on other healers and causing them to expend more mana while you regain a small amount? Unless you're doing it during a period of downtime but you wouldn't even need it anyway at that point?

>>159684601
Too ashamed to say. The guy might be in this very thread.

>>159680229
Judgement armor needs a reskin like that

>>159684432
Name a healing trinket in EN thats actually good

>>159684097
Sounds to me like you just don't like the game desu. If making money is easier than reaching the lvl cap which takes roughly 10 hours of questing in fresh zones.

>>159684431
Cocoon is garbage.
Might as well just stand still for 10 seconds and use a stat stick.

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>no set sims higher than set

ex-fucking-scuse me

>>159684671
A stat stick with int+ your best secondary is miles better. Mana isn't an issue if you play your spec right and don't spam stuff like chain heal 24/7.
The only good trinket from EN is the vial one.

>get curve
>suddenly access to smooth two hour runs from start to finish

Yeah I know two hours isn't impressive compared to a guild run but it sure beats spending two hours or more on every other boss with five different groups.

>>159684776
Nah I just can't settle on a class, purely only made a DH to farm herbs and ore for gold so I don't have to keep paying 15 bucks at a time.

>>159684854
if the other set piece has bad stats it will lower the sim

>>159684741

>implying it even has to be an EN trinket when mythic+ exists

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i made one of these because i hate this spec so much

>>159684902
No idea what icyveins is doing calling the mana thing best in slot. Seems fucking shit. Makes me wonder if it's worth reading anything in that guide or if it's just an oversight.

>>159685040
>icyveins
lad ...

>>159684976
>luck

>>159684741
None? You know you don't HAVE to use an EN trinket, right?

Vial of Nightmare Fog is still better though. I'm tempted to say Heightened Senses too but uptime is bad and no intellect.

>>159685124
w-what?

>>159684940
You literally prefer to grind herbs instead of play max level content.
Pick any class and stick with it, they're all shit. You won't be happy no matter what you pick, but my personal advice would be a pure range dps they are always in high demand and are stress free

>>159685040
If you raid with people that follow icyveins guides might as well quit you're guild rn.

>>159683938
>no mobility
>gotta spend like 4 GCDs on pull to have aggro on skittish
>almost impossible to play on necrotic
>same damage as DH

give me a single reason to play DK over DH except for the reason that vengeance is boring as fuck

>>159685267
Uhm so where do I get quick bite-size info like Icyveins just better?

>>159684854
not applicable in practice

>>159685345
your class discord/blog

>normal mythic
>bear tank with 10 million hp or something but sucks so hard he can't properly manage the shit he pulls

>>159685146

>he cant consistently 3 chest 8 to 12's

why are you touting your 880 if you're literal dogshit?

Just came back to game
If I do this +2 Vault keystone I have, will that run also count for my Karazhan attunement or no? Since I need an item that technically spawns off the last boss.

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>>159685457
>discord

Okay buddy.

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>>159685457

>shilling for the class discords that suck ass

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reminder ripip spends countless hours wiping just trying to get 5/7m meanwhile based ion get's 5/7m casually

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>>159685508

>tfw can't even consistenty 3chest 5 and below
>tfw can't hard carry the other two dps pulling <200k single target

i bring shame upon my family

Guys is Ancestral Vigor shit or what? It literally lowers throughput because the shaman mastery is based on percentage of max health. How can that be worth it for a meme effect that shouldn't come into play in a well executed fight?

>>159685685
>>159685638
>i totally know better than these experienced players and theorycrafters

>>159671103
I can't decide

>>159685638
>>159685685
icyshills go home

>>159685508
>3 chest 8 to 12
hello? math?

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>>159671607

Lol top five man groups have plenty of disc priests

Get gud nub

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>Have to vote tomorrow
>Its the same day as rolling restarts and shit so I have something to do on the down time.
Fucking blizzard, making me go out and be an adult.

were vanilla servers announced yet?

>>159686178
but you have to make sure a nazi won't rule the world for the next 4 years anon, it'll be worth it.

>>159686242
Yes. March 03.

>>159685891
>i totally know better than icyveins

The problem with both is that there are too many opinionated assholes and not enough people basing their recommendations of provable facts. The only way to get ahead is to follow literally everything and sift through the bullshit.

>>159686178
I'm working at a polling place tomorrow, no raiding for me. At least my guild decided to wait to do Trial of Valor until Wednesday.

>>159682898
The only rng i know of for ww is a proc for free blackout kick but it literally doesnt change your priorities

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Do u like bacon?