/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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fuck video games

Twinblades most fun weapon in the souls series, Beastcutter 2nd most fun weapon, followed shortly after bc is the baldur side sword and then the rest of the trick weapons

DaS2 dragonform looks the best, das1 dragonform looks like a dog that needs to be put down. Dragon cultist armor > matted fur dragon > anorexic dying deer dragon

>>159661898
>calling invaders grievers
neo-/dsg/ ladies and gentlemen

>>159661062
Hexes are awesome for PVE, and still really good for PVP. Great Resonant Soul no longer does 2000 damage, and normal Resonant Soul isn't worth it at all, but Dark Orb, Dark Hail, and Dark Weapon are all fantastic spells. I would say Orb is the best general-purpose projectile in the game.

>>159661583
Counter question: What are the strong points of DaS1? What does it do better than the other games? The only thing that comes to mind is area interconnection, with I consider to have a fairly small effect on the actual gameplay.
Bosses? BB blows it out of the water.
Regular PvE? Lets not forget post-anal rodeo DaS, DeS and BB have much better pacing, and in terms of individual areas DaS3 is at least as good.
PvP? The balance is abysmal and is only second to DeS in terms of how broken some things are.
Atmosphere? DeS and BB lore are much more coherent.
I love DaS like any other game in the serious, but I'm baffled by how some people have enough audacity to claim it's "the best".

>>159662149
>grievers

Farusa, please.

I have a delicate constitution

>>159662176
>DeS and BB lore are much more coherent.
But also much more straightforward and leave less room for alternative interpretations, at least in DeS' case

>>159662296
help I'm being bullied

>>159662176

Combat. If you think about it DaS2 and DaS3 combat is closer to DeS combat.

>>159662396
I cover my face in shame every time I get read and parried

>tfw feel when reached Duel Gold with bandit's knife

pcfcbf

>>159662498
Trick weapon versatility is still superior. There are very few weapons that share any moves at all, like maybe untricked ludwigs/kirk and the two saws and that's about it.

>>159662650
where?!

>>159661868
Well, I suppose fun is of course subjective and we've all played some game in our lives we enjoyed that no one else gives a damn about.

Also, sorry I thought it was a /dsg/ meme to not include or be hateful to BB. I understand if you don't have it or haven't played it why you wouldn't include it.

>>159661537
Skill, Skill/blt, faith/blt, faith, str/int, str, quality. Seems about as varied as the rest of the series, especially when most of your builds in each game seem to saddle up in one or two little areas just the same. Just the nature of meta.

Also, replay value in these games is personal preference. I think 2/3 has least replay value, but I have DeS, DaS, and BB installed all the time. I only reinstalled DS3 for the dlc.

>>159662351
DeS has some interesting lore theories though, whereas the fact that 3 ignores 2 means that unlike 2 which builds on 1 (albeit in a copout and shitty manner) 3 can't really be said to be coherent with the whole series, and 3's story is pretty shit so far outside of the DLC.

1's was nice but there's no need or reason to continue its story.

1 was the story of you figuring out what happened. The party went down long before you arrived, and you put together the pieces as you either fall into the trap or subvert the trap of taking on the flame.

2 was adding to it by using a nearly nihilistic move, that was corrected and routed somewhere mildly interesting but more linear akin to DeS and BB in the DLC.

3 is more open, but I think it's because it is the end. Let you interpret the end however it pleases you. I still haven't heard a lore layout that made fucking sense to me.

>>159662296
kek, sorry to the pyromancer I trapped in the corner.

People are actually falling for perseverance into lightning storm fairly often.

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>mfw picking up black flame for the first time and raping bosses with it

>>159662176
>bb blows das3 out of water
No? Most bosses in BB have annoyingly obvious blind spots (Laurence) or can be staggered chained into death even on NG+6. Look at both darkbeasts, look at one reborn, look at maria, these are bosses that COULD HAVE been good, but for some reason From decided otherwise. Then you have fights like Ludwig, Kos, and Gehrman. Which I'd argue are the ONLY good fights the game has to offer, but even they are plagued with the same issues as most BB bosses. Kos stands like a retard for 3 seconds after each attack, even in phase 2. He's no where near as aggressive as Champ, SoC, or Elfriede in DaS3. Kos also shares a very bad design flaw in which he can be perma-stunlocked with backstabs and before you pull the b-b-b-but don't backstab arguement you need to realize bosses need to take into account in game mechanics so they aren't easily exploited. Take Elfriede and Champ, both well designed fights but ruined because Champ is so easy to parry and Elfriede offers her back all the time. Gehrman suffers from being staggerable and parryable, and subsequently Maria suffers from this as well. The common strategy for both Phase1 Gherman and all of Maria is press R1 twice, then shoot them when they get recover for guaranteed parry into visceral. You'd think they learn from Gwyn to not make the final boss parryable but even in Phase 2 Gehrman is just as easy to parry as Champ is in Dark Souls 3.

(Cont'd 1/2)

>soul memory 1.6 mil

Where do I put my sign down to get 25 sun medals

Dlc arena was a misstake.

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>>159662919
>using black flame on NK
>assloads of damage and every fourth flame or so staggers him

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Rate me

>>159662935
>bb blows das3 out of water
But the argument was about DaS1.

>>159663068
meme head/10

>>159663068
leggings look a little goofy imo. i'd go with something cloth-based

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collage man pls take my /fa/

>>159662885
In what, team arena/brawl?

>>159662935
cont 2/2
That leaves Ludwig to discuss, who I think is the most overrated boss in the entire series. He got a cool cutscene which changed his entire character and boss fight and everyone likes to pretend he's the hardest shit or the best boss fight in souls. I think it's mostly because he's the first boss fight of the DLC and since the DLC was on such a level higher than the base game everyone let their first impression of him get the better of him (same happened with Elfriede, remember how everyone was talking about "oh elfriede is LITERALLY the hardest souls boss in the entire series" now look at her she's a joke) Ludwig is the very same, people died to him a lot learning his fight, which is true for most souls bosses and they took that as a testiment to him being hard. I understand people have different experiences and what not but it bothers me to no end when people keep hyping him up as the best souls boss. Phase 2 makes his attacks much more obvious and he has an attack where he stands still for 7 seconds where you can wail on him. The only issue he had was his dick had an active hitbox during his sideswipe for some reason so you had to look at for, which caught a lot of people off guard because that was das2 levels of hitbox fuckery

BB is about on par with DaS3 in terms of boss, I'd argue BB has a much more unique world since the medieval fantasy setting has been done to death and thats why it get's its appeal. I think BB is the best because of it's unique combat system, so don't get me wrong I don't hate the game. Just think the game isn't much better than the others in the boss department

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>>159662874
I don't like this arena ;_;

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Anyone want to bully Friede with me?
pass: bully

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>>159662170
>mfw blasting dark hails at nashandra and elana and doing tons of damage even though they're resistant to dark magic
>tfw brute forcing stuff in a souls game

>>159663064
I was expecting pyro to be throwing piddly fireballs at stuff all game. If I get hit I get fucked because lmaonovig (right now anyway) but if I dodge well I'm absolutely shitting out damage.

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>fighting Tsonigger after the poise "fix"

>Forget to get all the free levels from the jew before Yuria showing up
>Heal the sigil to not look like a zombie even though I wanted to do the lord of hollows ending in this character
>Yuria doesn't want to talk to me anymore
How can I fuck it all up so much

>>159663294
Mostly, but also in 1on1. The lack of absorption usually means I'm basically killing myself when I cast it but perseverance covers most of it with an extra ~35% resist, which is nice.

>>159663461
>dlc are extra resistant to damage from spells
>assume reimu would have high dark defense
>still chunking him with orb
it's just too good, the ranged equivalent of a ccs

>>159662935
>>159663314
Bossfags are cancer, I don't understand why anyone would play souls games just for the "Bosses", go play Monster Hunter or Soul Eater instead. These games aren't designed to be hard by any sense of the word, that was just a marketing/advertising ploy/meme to trick people into buying the game to prove they were "hardcore"

>>159663567
He could do literally nothing against my BKS

>>159662767

Forgotten Graves.

>>159663708
>Great Heavy Soul Arrow damage
>Great Soul Arrow cast speed
>Double the number of uses of GH Soul Arrow at minimal attunement
>Element that fewer enemies are resistant to
makes you think

>>159663567
Just kick him when he blocks 2Hing his Fume or parry him when he isn't 2Hing.

Daily reminder that out of 126 bosses, only 2 of them are good.

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>>159663751
>he plays for the "competitive" ""pvp""

>hyper armor
>on the dual tryhard katanas

It's easier than ever now to spam the weapon art, thanks From

Thanks for hosting the FC and thanks Moe for the fights. Done for now.

>>159663621
Just go talk to Velka.

>>159662176
DaS has the best "open" world to autism roleplay in addition to having an atmosphere comparable or beyond Demon's Souls. I love STALKER and Dark Souls feels to me like a medieval fantasy counterpart of it so the open-endedness of DaS1 makes me feel the most at home.

Did anyone use lifedrain patch in Das2 pve? Was it good against anything?

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>>159663370
thanks fags

>>159664319
Bye Farusa!

See you next time

>>159664452
You can hurt co-op hosts with it so it's a good troll weapon.

>>159664164
Why would I play a series for a mini-game that was added merely as a side thought?

I play the souls games for the exploration, discovery and the lore. All games are so easy to let yourself lose yourself to immersion and live the story through your silent character. Having the freedom to explore and make decisions that can impact the world is what appeals to me. I really enjoy how the souls series handles itself by not telling you straight up what you need to do and is usually vague and leaves it up to the player. The single player is the most important aspect of the game, invasions were a unique idea but ultimately ruined due to people's natural tendency to be giant cunts. These games are best played offline.

Next you'll probably respond with >lorefag or something along the lines thereof, but tbqhidgaf

>decide to try new spells
>can't deal with the difference in scrolling through them another slot has caused
this is the worst

Alright, i've got to head out now, so that's it for me.

Thanks for hosting, Bomarrash!

And thank you all for the fights!

>>159662935
>you need to realize bosses need to take into account in game mechanics so they aren't easily exploited
every boss in the franchise can be easily exploited, fuckface
this doesn't make champ, friede or orphan anyhow worse

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Cute!

>>159664858
If you're on PC there was a guy from this thread that made a thing that lets you hotkey the spells. I think.

Just got invaded by Oroboro and Akira at the same time. Killed them both.

Should I start a youtube channel/streaming?

>>159662176
Ds1 has the best overall design to the game, the decision between whether you shield, roll, attack, or heal is what it all comes down to. And if you dont do the right one at the right time the game will punish you for it. Rolls have ending lag to make them actual spot dodges and not spam evasion, shields are great granted you have the stamina, estus is slow as shit and if yolo'd in someones face you're gonna get rocked.

Where the sequels go wrong is that estus is fast as shit and more spammable literally in peoples faces and rolls are basically invulnerable when spammed. Then they nerf shields for some reason and the game's balancing act between attack/defend/dodge/heal is all fucked up. You basically never need to shield cause rolling is so strong and healing is way faster than it has any need to be. Put it all together and you get a game where you spam roll, spam attack and spam heal whereas in Ds1 you have to make the correct decision and making the right or wrong one can make or break a situation

>>159665031
Yes.

>>159665031
Just post a webm for the amusement of your fellows

>get summoned for pontiff on my pyro
>host is also a pyro
>he summons another phantom that's also one
sully had no chance

>>159665078
>nerf shields for some reason
maybe it's because a heater shield in ds1 was enough to tank virtually anything pve throws at you and anything with higher stability allowed virtually invalidate any offense against you?
nerfing shields was a completely valid decision, i'd say they are still too strong, especially greatshields

>>159664948
Except it does, because it means the entire boss is made irrelevant due to these oversights. Gwyn isn't a very formidable boss because of parries, Champ, and Gehrman are in the same boat. Friede and Orphan both are missed opportunities, I'd argue Orphan moreso because all it takes is one charged R2 to the back in phase two and you pretty much won the fight.

Also you're already arguing in favor of my point, the bosses are about equal in the series and aren't as hard or challenging as people make them out to be.If you want truly difficult fights you would play games that take a little bit more care into their fights like MH/Soul Eater, Ninja Gaiden or DMC.

>>159665098

Oroboro was tumblebuffing his MLGS with Crystal Magic Weapon as well.

I'm still playing with my buddies at the moment, WebM coming later.

>>159664146
Kalameet and Nameless?

Thanks for coming out to the Untended Graves fc. That's it for now.

>you get interrupted mid ultra weapon animation to get backstabbed

this should be not possible, it's so fucking bullshit

>>159665505
Ludwig and Kalameet

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Now that the loser FC is over where's the arena

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>>159665657
>Kalameet is good meme

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>>159665551

Thanks host!

What do I do with the Santier's Spear

>>159665031
What were you using? Oroboro is streaming right now..

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>>159665326
>summoning 3 people for pontiff

>>159665702
>kalameet is bad meme

>>159665767

0. Break it
1. Put on stone ring
2. Two hand it
3. R1R1R1

>>159661843
I've just realized that /d3g/ been dead for months

>>159665905
I heard it got nerfed, is it still good/better than red iron?

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>>159665505
>>159665657
>Kalameet

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>go into brawl to test out 2H crow quills moveset
>of course it's a fucking pyro
>too bad for him it's 1v1 brawl

If this is how you want to play, this is how we can play, asshole.

>>159664870
Wow that's a slick fucking screenshot. Mind if I steal it for posting/background?

>>159665975

They're different. Red Iron has more pure damage, but Santier's has better moveset.

>>159666014
>instead of getting good, I'll just use a hard counter weapon!
Metafags, not even once.

>>159665078
>shields
>not responsible for making the game a complete and utter joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPoBVlBE_Gc

>>159664332
Fuck. Would that fix Yuria not talking to me?
I just killed her... Thought she would disappear if I left the Shrine.

>>159665352
>hard = good
when it comes to souls games, presentation, atmosphere and music are much more important to bosses than difficulty because there's not a single boss in the entire franchise that doesn't have some sort of exploit that makes him completely trivial to beat though this is absolutely the same for vast majority of games excluding some real and ultra rare hardcore as fuck examples and those are usually not fun to fight at all like a fucking demifiend in DDS1 which is a boring as shit 1.5 hour grind

if you debunk friede, ludwig or any other great souls boss just because you're too much of a hardcore gaymer to enjoy their boss fights then your taste is just a plain fucking shit, it's that simple

>>159665551
thanks for hosting!

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>>159666091
Sure, I take more pictures than a white tourist, I'm full of them

>>159665975
>>159666095

Oh and Santier's has infinite durability. The way twinblades work is not very good for durability. The multi hit attacks drain it like there's no tomorrow.

>>159666014
>Meme grab attack instead of Vestiges
And it wasn't even a decent pyro

>>159666247
Santier's it is then, since I'm going to be doing PVE

>>159665431
>tumblebuff
>not patched out

NANI?!

>>159665786

Red-Hilted Halberd plus a Black Knight Shield. My buddy was using Lorian's UGS.

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>>159666124
>instead of getting good, I'll just run away and throw fireballs and snakes all day and poise trade if they get close!

Cry more for me, pyroshitter

>tfw teamed up with bloodshades
>Current month

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crow talons + black knight shield turtling is some of the most sadistic things i've tried in ds3
jesus fuck that 1hr1 is fast and with WA shield flurry comes out of nowhere

>>159666171
lmao I bet you cried about how shields do nothing and game is too hard when you first played and got overwhelmed by hollows

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>>159666467
it isn't so hard to counter this without a hard counter anyway

>>159666124
>instead of getting good, I'll just spam spells from distance and wait for the netcode to do the work for me!
pyroshits, not even once

>>159666650
>comes out of nowhere
>Wiith half a year or startup

>>159666605
What should the /dsg/ player covenant be called?

>>159665335
ok so then nerf shields, why make invulnerable roll spam a thing and make estus instant too?

>>159666863
not this shit again

>>159666863
Where the fuck have you been nigger? We had one

>>159666863
Please, let it rest

>>159666863

Vicars.

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>>159666863
>being THIS new

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>>159666014
>actually using sacred flame
madman

>>159666863
um, we're all part of the Crusaders with Brandon aka Our Guy Oroboro

>>159666898
Because casuals always need to be able to finish these games. Be it through endless healing, free rolls or shielding or easily stunlockable bosses through free DPS

>>159666898
>invulnerable roll spam
>estus instant
because pve needs it given that some enemies in DS3 are faster than BB like fucking facerape ghru and some bosses can completely deny safe healing having only one slow move at best like the champ

>>159666431
>my buddy

And suddenly it all starts to make sense...

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I just don't feel like playing DaS3 anymore. What's wrong with me. It feels like I've done everything there's to do. Even /DSG/ fc can't cheer me up.

>fags whining that casters are viable in pvp for once
fuck you

>>159666863
The Cuckolds

>>159667251

Because it's mediocre and the replay value is the worst out of any of the games.

>>159667251
I don't play the game anymore, but I keep shitposting on /dsg/ anyway

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>>159667251
>/DSG/

>>159667263
>viable only in two modes of the arena entire gimmick of which is teamwork
>fucktards want their boring quality domination back even there
just ignore retards

>>159666753

Any other way involves playing their game and pyroshitters just aren't worth the effort. I'm certainly not going to run into an onyx blade and black flame with my short crow quills like an idiot if that's what you're suggesting.

>>159667156
Fuck the retards who can't even figure out how to play a video game. This series was smart in ignoring idiots but in 2 and 3 it's so obvious that publisher's intervened to make sure nobody gets mad and returns the game while telling their friends it sucks cause they're too stupid to breathe

>>159667263
What exactly changed that suddenly made casters viable?

Pyros got a greatsword to play with and that's it. Why is everyone rerolling pyrocancer?

If I don't have the dlc,can others drop DLC weapons for me?

>>159667251
cum for bald Yorshka!

>>159667216
And then half of the enemy cast can't punish anything you do.
Remember when against most bosses in 1 or 2 you need to make them attack then heal during their recovery?
Think no longer about that, there are nearly no enemies in 3 capable of punishing estus

>this image loading time

this website's going to fucking die

then where will i go

>>159666431
>>159665031

Post link to VOD with timestamp or it didn't happen.

>>159667251
>/DSG/
t. ComfyWarrior

>>159667470
>And then half of the enemy cast can't punish anything you do.
exactly like in ds1 then?
oh wait, there it was 80%

What's the best way to deal with constant r1 barrage on a dagger build?

>>159667512
t. Claire

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>>159666650

You're doing it wrong. See, what you do is, you run at them with your guard up, and then you stab them in the fucking back with hornet ring equipped.

I've just started working my way through NG+ but I should really do some more meta aldrich invasions so I can get some more webm material.

>>159667645
t. BSCB

>>159667251
it's a bad game. I've put less time into than 1 and 2.

>>159667474
reddit of course. and don't even pretend that you wont

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>all stances can now chain their weapon arts one into another

>>159667398
Dark Souls 2 had pretty easy pve but it had more retarded bullshit that would kill you than Das1 did

>>159667417
Parting Flame
Melee have to respect black flame now because they'll lose the trade every time.
They also can't deal with flame surge because it punishes reactive play hard, which get a lot of meta pvpers butthurt.
Black Serpent punishes those who run out of range from Flame Surge, and because it doesn't cost too terribly much we can keep going forever.
Rolling from a black serpent could set up for a nasty CBV roll catch.

Essentially, pyro's aren't a free kill anymore and melee can't play the same passive-reactive game they do with other melees. But instead of learning to play you have players who just resort to running away until you're out of mana, run out arena time or use crossbows and try to chip you out with that because it's easier to use a hard counter than to learn how to outspace black flame and condition opponents. They're so use to play reactive-passive they have no idea how to be aggressive -- it's really sad.

>>159667417
the new sword made more people want to try pyros which led to their discovery of their strength (coming mostly from dark pyromancies)
pyros were just as strong before the dlc, only less people knew about it

>>159667417
they're not

all magic is hard countered by running garg flame spear.

>>159667758
I don't know man, I've had SS WA R2 fail to combo into WA R1 more often than not. It sucks too because they lost 1H WA R2 into regular R1.

>>159667445

Anyone?

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A-am I cute, /dsg/?

>>159667859
I agree, although I think there is definitely something wrong with black serpent and the way it hits people, on top of Executioner's Gloves-tier tracking that toggles on and off randomly.

>>159668113
Yes. What do you want

>>159668143
dude cut your nails

>>159668143

I'd let one of those squeeze my arm.

>>159667941
It's just somewhat harder to deal with, its not really a hard counter.

>>159668143
You shitposted MOMMY ROSARIA for way too long I'm afraid.

>>159667859
>They're so use to play reactive-passive they have no idea how to be aggressive -- it's really sad.
ya this is what i think too tbqh
pyro isn't even that strong, you just have to approach it differently, but i guess thats hard when you have people who never approach lmao

Is there any really good use for the 30% roll aside from dodging large enemies? Been using it and generally just find that all it does is cause you to roll too far past enemies to be in back stab range.

Someone with multiple NG+ can donate a ghottards for me?

>>159668190

Oh, nothing right now, It's been a while since I last played, don't have the money to buy the dlc right now, so I was just wondering.

>you can still tumble buff

you'd think after having it in 1 and 2 that they would make sure 3 didnt have it.

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>Team match
>Team mate uses the scythe
Kindly do not. I play the arena to win.

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>>159668384
Also, PC, pass: sword

put a red sign here

>>159668451
I'm pretty sure DaS2 didn't have tumblebuffing
and even if it did, not like it mattered since only like 5 weapons weren't buffable

>>159668451

It doesn't even seem that strong with MLGS in all honesty. Doesn't seem like all that m uch more damage than just a good GS on a quality build with pure physical damage like the wolf knight's GS or hollowslayer.

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>>159667859
>run diagonally forward when they launch serpent, it will always miss
>force through the surge with some weapon with good running attack
>maintain at least some semblance of spacing to always dodge black flames
Is current playerbase really so fucking retarded they can't quickly develop tactics against good but in no shape or form overpowering build? I've been killing pyros both in duels and team battles relentlessly, they are only good in teams and only if they are actually covered by party members, otherwise they are just walking sources of free points.

In fact, i find stealth sorcerers much larger pain in the ass because they can go up to 1k damage with their crystal soul spears during team battles and snipe from bumblefuck nowhere right when you're dealing with someone else.

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Hey, /dsg/, I need some build ideas as I'm going to do a run through on DS3 and go through the DLC.

I was thinking of doing either Miracles or Sorceries, but I am undecided. Anything recommendations?

>>159668692
Go both with either crystal chime or archdeacon staff.

>>159668619

It did, but it was patched very quickly.

>>159668619
Didnt have tumblebuffing but there was an extremely difficult way to swap weapons during the animation of another.

>>159668636
With crystal MW I imagine it rapes.

>>159668636

What I mean is, he's only getting like slightly under 400 per swing most of the time, so around 800 or so with 2 hits. I've gotten around 700 off of 2 hits regularly so I don't really see what the big deal is with the tumblebuffing, I assume it's because even though you get the damage increase, it's still split damage vs. pure physical.

Doesn't seem like a big deal to me, idk famalam.

>>159668692
make a pyromancer

>>159668648
>Is current playerbase really so fucking retarded they can't quickly develop tactics against good but in no shape or form overpowering build?
Yes, yes it is. When they lose to something it's not them being bad, its the other build being broken. So they look for counter weapons/builds.

>>159668587

Anyone dropped it for you yet? I have a few.

>>159668587
>pass sword
>on /dsg/
>for /dsgfcbf/

>>159668587
Still need one?

>>159667859
>being this annoyed someone doesn't want to deal with their playstyle

It's just like using a shield versus pole. No one wants to deal with a playstyle that forces you to not be allowed to play how you want. Polefags force you to play how they demand you to, so you make them suffer with you. Pyrofags force you to play how they demand to, so you make them suffer with you.
It'd not be that bad if there was perfect connection, but serpent demands nearly no lag to be able to 100% dodge without straffing backwards, so you always do this to not be fucked by lag which makes fights never end

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https://youtu.be/3A99jpHL8ws

>>159669015
>>159668974
Still need it

>>159668182
>>159668315
>>159668648
>>159668936
>>159667859

Alright pyromancers stop posting, kinda getting cringy how you really believe pyromancies are fine atm

>>159668692
I find Miracles easier because you're either buffing or casting, simple.

>I dont play PC because of hackers and cheaters
>is exploiting a glitch

how can anyone like this retard

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>team battles
>they have a caster, a guy with a gargoyle flame spear and longsword user constantly doing WA chains
>i have a retard who buffs a normal great scythe with blessed weapon then wastes even more time on sacred oath EACH TIME HE SPAWNS EVEN IF HE GETS SPAWNKILLED HOLY SHIT
>and a cleric with 500 HP who dies despite all my desperate attempts to protect him from 3 people rape train
can't wait till arena allows you to actually pick teammates because this is a fucking suffering

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>>159669068
Thank you!

>>159669361
You gave him views.
You're part of the cancer

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>>159669046
If you made that, your video is shit, your waifu is dead and your taste in music is trash. Kys you're self.

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>>159669361
>comparing a special trick you can do to get a bit more damage that requires jumping off a set of stairs and being fast enough to hit a specific set of buttons in a very short period of time to infinite health/stamina insta-curse hit you and jumble your stats up bullshit

Yeah okay kid...

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>>159668521

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Are you lads ready for Sony to win yet again?

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Im not sure if anyone would be ever willing to part with it, but does anyone have a spare Cloranthy ring +2 ? formatted my pc and lost all saves and current character is on the first NG cycle

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>>159669565

You're welcome!

>>159669693
Binoboosting and running firestorm are special tricks too then?

>>159667859
>Essentially, pyro's aren't a free kill anymore and melee can't play the same passive-reactive game they do with other melees. But instead of learning to play you have players who just resort to running away until you're out of mana, run out arena time or use crossbows and try to chip you out with that because it's easier to use a hard counter than to learn how to outspace black flame and condition opponents. They're so use to play reactive-passive they have no idea how to be aggressive -- it's really sad.
real cringy u actually believe this lol

>>159667216
That's just another symptom of the development team having no clear direction, the sequels are such a mess. The player is intended to have a power baseline founded on the slow and methodic sword and board combat of Ds1. Then they for whatever reason decide to remove the recovery animation from anything below fat roll while also making shield blocks eat more stamina and additionally messing with stam regen and consumption. As a result the equilibrium between defending and dodging is punctuated and rolling is the completely superior defensive option. Then to compensate for player's rolls being ridiculous the speed and power of enemies has to be adjusted which punctuates the equilibrium between the capabilities of the player vs the capaibilities of enemies. Then as if that isn't enough to fuck it all up they make estus chugging absolutely ridiculous. Poise gets neutered cause tank characters being able to tank hits is apparently a problem. The balance between speed and power of weapon classes and disparity of effectiveness between weapons within each class are other gigantic issues in the sequels.

But worst of all is that if you point out any of these problems you'll have a rabid pack of literal retards screaming about how their retarded opinions are right and that X or Y minmaxed build, which they'll link, is proof that an underlying system is broken and that the only reason they lose is because poise is broken, or backstabs are broken, or whatever else that beats their darkmoon blade r1 spam is broken.

>>159669903
don't forget TWoD

So 8 poise with greatswords is good enough to HA through light, spammy shit like curved swords?

>>159668692
Any good weapons for Lightning or Crystal infusion?

>>159670183
Okay, abbreviations are hard, what the heck is HA

>>159669693
well let's do some math

at 60 int court sorc staff has 238 spell buff. That means using crystal magic weapon on a MLGs adds a FLAT 228 damage to it.

It doesn't look like a lot because he's level 70 and using MW. It's also easy as fuck 4 button press input. You can get the muscle memory for it in like 10 minutes.

>>159667398
>This series was so good at ignoring idiots
Top kek, if DeS was released post-DS2 everyone would call it casualfaggotry.

DeS was built around throwing the player stacks of hundreds of grasses coupled with super strong regen, Second Chance, spices you could infinitely chew to get heal miracles ensuring that an enemy badically had to one shot you, otherwise you could recover.

Bosses in DeS were also easy compared to the other games in the series. DS2 base game probably had worse bosses than Demon's bosses but while the levels in Demon's Souls were long, the combination of infinite grasses and strong regen was making it more of a test of patience than anything else.

DS3 has some strong regen stuff too but DS3 gates the regen stuff into pretty late in the game whereas in Demon's Souls you could get Crescent Falchion AND Adjudicator's shield in 4-1 and Regenerator's Ring and Fragrant Ring pretty early on in World 3 IIRC.

Demon's Souls' levels with DaS1 World interconnectivity and DS3's combat mechanics would be the ideal game

black knight sword + valorheard dude at duels what is this cheese rofl

>>159670219

Hyper Assault. It means you get hyper armor during your attack.

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DaS3 PVP

--Most fun build/weapon/playstyle--

--Most OP build/weapon/playstyle--

--The build that guarantees hatemail--

--Most meme/meta/shitter build to avoid going into--

--Best host anti-invasion/gank squad build--

GO

>>159670219
HyperArmor/poise

>>159670404
>>159670497

Haha got it the second I posted it, thanks guys

>>159663567
Let me tell you a little secret to shitting on every single humanoid melee npc, the large club

charge up that R2 leap forward and the moment you pancake that motherfucker you won, manage your stam and just chain pancake him as he gets up, they literally can't do shit if you do it properly.

It's how I kill tso, havel etc on my 10-20 twinks.

If your a caster just boulder heave, it has the same effect with the added bonus of shit tons of dmg and a bit more range, it's also insanely fast with sage ring.

>>159669693
7.3. In connection your communication and activity with the Game, you agree not to:
• Cheat or utilize unauthorized exploits in connection with the Game.
• Use or exploit any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to or use of the Game or
to gain an unfair advantage over other players of the Game

By From&Bandai Namco's definition of online conduct, you can't even dupe through backing up saves.
then again, this is From we're talking about. recycling assets as well as bugs is their specialty.

Is 90 an alright stopping point for a pyro? Feels like I'll have to choose between vig and end at that level. And what weapon level are people at at that point?

>>159670183

Yes.

>>159670465
Dex/Int Greatsword of Judgement

Dex/Int Greatsword of Judgement

Dex/Int Greatsword of Judgement

Dex/Int Greatsword of Judgement

Dex/Int Greatsword of Judgement

>>159666863
Protectors of Priscilla

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What's he looking at?

>>159670465
Quality CCS
Quality CCS
Quality CCS
Quality CCS
Quality CCS

>>159670708
But seriously, is the Greatsword of Judgement still shit?

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:(

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>>159671036
Why do these people always immediately go offline?

>>159670841
Your nodes, wondering when he'll invade
the bell, you dumb hollow

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>>159671135
What is he looking at?

>>159666193
It would be nice if in DS3 they all weren't weak to bleed except for Dragonslayer armor though.

I agree with your post otherwise, the bosses are designed to be challenging but the fact that they have a weak point is intentional so that the whole observation aspect of the gameplay would kick in.

The bosses need to be challenging enough so that the players have a chance to study the boss and then employ strategies to take them out. That's why Pinwheel is a shit boss and Fool's Idol is pretty good since the Pinwheel fight has no time to require any tactics.

>>159670973
It's the better MLGS in my opinion.
>slightly more damage on a dedicated build
>beams come out slightly faster
>the stance attack is downright better than the moonlight vortex
>looks slick as fuck, is not like a piece of glass

>>159671036
They have to add you as a friend to do that right?

>>159671751

Yes. RIP GFWL.

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Why from hates this weapon?

>>159670025
The thing is, none of those alternatives were better, even in PvE.
Poise is the worse.
DeS perfected the system, DaS introduces a worse alternative and instead of going back, they fuck it up further and further every game.

Estus is bullshit though and DaS's base healing system is the best, I agree

>>159671462
on a dedicated build it achieves whopping 150 more damage than MLGS on 60 int

>>159670465
>--Most fun build/weapon/playstyle--
Cosplay
>--Most OP build/weapon/playstyle--
CCS/WP rouged
>--The build that guarantees hatemail--
See above
>--Most meme/meta/shitter build to avoid going into--
See above
>--Best host anti-invasion/gank squad build--
Offhand hornet Caestus

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>mfw hastily rebuilding my character since I narrowly avoided hot fresh buns and I'm stuck running through NG
I'm going to miss all the action

>>159671925
They do?

>>159672023
>>>/pol/

>>159672078
Nerfed multiple times into uselessness in dark souls 1
Awful terrible weapon in dark souls 2
Nerfed multiple times into uselessness in dark souls 3

>>159669565
Your character has the same disgusting body type as Andre.

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>>159671995
>people are still complaining about CCS and WP

fightclubwhen

Alright I have burnt myself out on pvp. I haven't done an infinite NG+ run yet, haven't made a character hit NG+10.

So /dsg/ what should I build, what do you think becomes hilariously broken at around SL300 or so?

>>159672439
Where?

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Is Soul Stream useful?

Why in Dark Souls 2 it felt like you could pull most cosplays but in Dark Souls 3 it's so hard?

>>159667509

The last 6 builds we had were all dried finger cosplay/meme runs, but then the one time we decide to finally make tryhard ''road to hatemail'' builds we get invaded by Oroboro and Akira. It wasn't pretty.

>>159672568
When fighting bosses as a phantom from a distance and only the ones that don't fall over and become invincible for the rest of the spell

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>>159672649

>>159672246
>people are still complaining about the objectively best weapons in the game
What did he mean by this?

>>159672880
>he thinks WP is the best weapon in the game

found the shitter

>>159672246
>something that hasn't changed still gets the same reaction
No shit

>>159672516
Who?

>>159673301
Boyfriends?

>>159673029
Except there are plenty of things far more powerful such as follower sabre and every single GS.

CCS and WP are mediocre by today's standards. WP was never that great anyway. It's just a katana.

>>159673381
>follower sabre
>he thinks Sabre is better than CCS and not a scrub slayer

What even decides if you can r1 after the millwood WA stun? It only works like 10% of the time. I start to think they just don't know they can already roll away.

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They should have made it a bit slower.

>>159672203
It still has the highest AR in the game and is THE definitive pve NG+∞ weapon

>>159673542
CCS maybe better than saber, I dunno.

WP is nowhere near top tier. It's just a katana and katanas are shit this time around because Miyahacki is a westaboo. It's all about straight swords and greatswords in this game.

>>159673379
When?

>>159673591
>huge tickling fetish
>can't really get into girls who go barefoot everywhere because it means they have rough feet that aren't sensitive at all
True suffering.

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>>159674217
>>huge tickling fetish
I got something you might like.

What was the point of hard-to-farm weapons?

>>159673591
>frombalancing

literally 3 foot swings per second come on miyahgacki

>When the Warpick is actually cancer
Holy shit what a time to be alive.

>>159674394
Making them a little bit more uncommon in PvP?

>>159674621

lolwut

>>159674621
Is anything NOT cancer these days?

>>159673902
It is, hits harder and has more range.
The WA can't punish any good weapon on reaction and it only roll catches people dumb enough to roll into it. It also loses trades versus CCS is they strike during the first two slashes (which they should, the 3rd slash is always punishable if you didn't combo). Carthus is still the rapestick that nearly nothing can stand up to. And to those that can, you just swap to GFS with a good offhand.

Great tier :
>Old ENB
>Lobosjr
>SunLightBlade

Good tier :
>VaatiVidya
>OnlyAfro
>rbFrosty

Not a total faggot-tier :
>A German Fedora
>Peeve
>Obobobo
>Twitch ENB

Total and Utter faggot-tier :
>rest of the Soulbrandt fags
>me
>Scottjund

>>159674953
>>A German Fedora
>>Peeve
>>Obobobo
>>Twitch ENB

>Not a total faggot

>>159674953
You forgot DSP and God-King Lucifer

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Would you use Smough's Hammer if the WA was charge?

>>159674953

>SunlightBlade
>Great

I stopped watching that faggot when he started doing "fun runs" in DS2 and showed how much of a autistic sperg he really was, arguing with people in the comments over "I'm not really trying to hit the sweet spot guys, I'm just casually playing"

>>159674953
Great tier :
>
Good tier :
>
Not a total faggot-tier :
>
Total and utter faggot-tier :
>all e-celebs

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>>159674953
>was watching lobos play KF4 the other day
>literally every 10 seconds someone came into the chat with the exact same joke about it being the new dark souls 3 dlc

its hard using that website sometimes

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>>159674953
>Good tier :
>>OnlyAfro

How do you do this sheer infinite wombo shit with caestus?

>>159674689

but I'm tired of spending hours farming for a midtier weapon

>>159675438
Then you don't deserve it

Great tier :
>Old ENB
>Lobosjr
>Otz
>Emmael

Good tier:
>Sanadsk
>Yukas
>OnlyAfro

Okay Tier :
>SunLightBlade
>VaatiVidya
>PvPSkillz
>Peeve

Shit Tier:
>Obobobo
>Soulbrandt
>Twitch ENB
>Scottjund
>me

>>159675252
>Dreadedcone's channel literally banned trigger jokes

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http://imgur.com/a/NzlkQ
has anybody done this for dark souls 3? or even 2? I think I remember seeing vilhelms face a few days ago

Fuck off with your eceleb garbage

>>159675838

It's in the OP

>>159675708
Great tier is missing hellkite

>>159675708
>Emmael
You mean Emarrel?

>>159675951
Yeah.

It's been so long I forgot his name.

>>159675802

wtf i hate triggers now

>>159675187
>"fun runs" in DS2

What does that mean? I'm not familiar with him.

>>159675951
Emarrel is my soulsfu

>>159675708

Great tier :
>Old ENB
>Lobosjr
>Otz
>Emarrel
>Maddie
>Hellkite
>MenasLG

Good tier:
>Sanadsk
>Yukas
>OnlyAfro

Okay Tier :
>SunLightBlade
>VaatiVidya
>PvPSkillz
>Peeve

Shit Tier:
>Obobobo
>Soulbrandt
>Twitch ENB
>Scottjund
>me

>>159675176

I already use it. Not giving it the charge is a huge wasted opportunity though.

Emarrel
Distortion2/Kahmul
TolomoeR

are the only souls players you should be watching
lobosjr stopped being entertaining when he stopped doing daily das1 challenges
i groupped the speedrunners because if you wanna see das1 you watch kahmul if you wanna watch das2/das3/bb speedruns you watch distortion

>>159676242
How do you see shit? My biggest problem with the hammer is that I can't see anything

>>159674217
Tickling is a very convenient fetish
>can tickle female friends and they think you're just being playful
>mainstream media can have a lot of fap material for females being tickled
>many deviantart artists can accept tickling commissions when they wouldn't do guro or other shit
>tickling can be work safe or not
>tickling can easily be combined into other fetishes like feet and bondage

>>159675708
>>159676167

>>159675071

>watching anyone but DSP and TBFP

>>159676383
>How do you see shit?

I don't, I just love how ridiculous it is as a weapon.

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>>159675906
oh, well fuck me then. I found this source as well
http://imgur.com/a/olgvn#prALAxS
gives you the sliders and everything, I hope we can add the dlc characters later on

>>159676625
Accurate

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If people that use CE get moved to a different server, what would happen if there was a mass movement of PC players that purposefully get themselves banned to the cheater servers and leave the normal servers barren?

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>You can only hold 30 of one kind of Greatarrow at a time
W h y
Greatbows are already essentially a meme weapon considering they're so slow that you have to be extraordinarily cautious in order to be able to hit an active enemy with it, and they only do as much as a single combo from any weapon barring the broken straight sword
If their worry was about somebody sniping their way through the game, then why bother when you can already do that with magic anyway, and it's such a tedious way to play the game that no sane human would even bother

All I want is to be able to inject a little fun into yet another play through by using a weapon I've basically never used seriously but I guess I can't have that, thanks From

>>159676625
Better version

God tier:
>Otz
>Emarrel
>Zullie
>Vageta311

Great tier :
>Old ENB
>Maddie
>Hellkite
>Lobosjr
>MenasLG

Good tier:
>Sanadsk
>Yukas
>OnlyAfro
>DSP

Okay Tier :
>SunLightBlade
>VaatiVidya
>PvPSkillz
>Peeve

Shit Tier:
>Obobobo
>Soulbrandt
>Twitch ENB
>Scottjund
>4kingsfag/autismanon
>me

Elder Shit Tier:
>Lucy

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>>159676419
That's true, but it also has a lot of pitfalls.
>fall for a girl but find out she's not ticklish at all
>girl claims she's super ticklish but really isn't all that sensitive (this happens all the time)
>want to find out if a girl is ticklish but can't just ask her right away because it's a weird thing to ask without some sort of context
>girl is ticklish but absolutely hates being tickled and won't let you do it
>girl is ticklish everywhere but on her feet
>beautiful feet that aren't ticklish
>ticklish feet that aren't beautiful
These are usually just problems when you're on the dating scene, though.

>>159676728
Yes anon, it has been there since a little after release.
I think we have the sliders for the 2 DLC npcs

>>159676778
Just switch to a different kind of Greatarrow god damn

>>159676802
Missing Krekk0v and Scas

>>159676778
50 + 30 + 30 greatarrows plus millwood greatbow is enough to clear any location even on ng+7
in fact, millwood's infinite explosions make pve trivial as fuck

>>159677096
same tier as lucy

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>oversized anime dildos made from a slab of iron are shit
>but realistic weaponry like daggers, rapiers, longswords, greatswords, maces, crossbows, halberds are all great and you can utilize heavy armor extremely effectively with them
is Miyazaki trying to tell us something?

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>>159676839
>3d girls

found your problem

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>>159677272

We've all seen Hannah Montanna I think we know what this means

>Want to play DeS
>didn't age wel
>want to play DaS1
>runs for shit on my PC
>want to play DaS2
>don't feel like waiting until end game to get Santier's Spear
>want to play DaS3
>remember how linear and boring it is, start game kill gundyr, kill dancer, kill vordt, kill sage, get +10, zzz
>remember no weapon variety
>want to play bb
>remember fps drops and screen tears
>remember can't a blood rock until you late game so you can't get a early +10
>remember no weapon variety, saw cleaver only fun weapon

bleh

>>159677272
Dragon Bone Smasher was extremely good in DeS.

>>159677534
iktfb

Considering playing Dragon's Dogma, never got around to it - No idea if I should though.

>>159677542
outclassed by vast majority of faster weapons as well

what's wrong with scottjund?

>>159677542
>STR will never reach the heights it had in DeS

Blazing fast moves that all cover huge amounts of area, movesets that aren't complete ass, hyper armor from frame 1 of attack, and ridiculous knockback on hit.

>>159677534
tbqh the screen tears and the constant frame drops below 15 fps made me not really like bloodborne.

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>follower's torch in pve on my pyro
>can purge entire locations without running out of mana
last thing i've expected from DLC is making a good torch

>>159677732
we'll never get to suck his strong meta cock

>>159677868

Webm, please? I need to see this.

I'll tickle the feet of anyone who gives me a flamberge

>>159677868
Know what's the best part? If it did combo r1-r1, it'd actually be "good" in PvP.
Please From, I need this

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>>159676839
>tfw last proper date was roughly a year ago

>>159677732
He complains a lot about the lack of variety in DS3

>>159677868
shame it can't combo and the WA can't be used in the offhand, i still pvp with it and do decently

fair damage and good WA though, would love to see it made on par with the actual mace class weapons

>>159677995
Platform?

>>159676839
what do footfags even consider to be "good" feet?

feet all look the same to me unless they have disgusting bunions or whatever

>>159678219

PC

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>>159677943

>>159678461

HOT

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>>159678461

Impressive.

>>159674823
Carthus Curved Sword
Followers Saber

>>159677732
Lack of competition makes his voice the loudest by proxy.

>>159678354
I'm not really into clavicles, but I am able to think beyond my own perceptions and understand that there is likely a large variety of clavicles in the eyes of somebody with a fetish for them.

Are you unable to do that with feet? I mean, it's not really even about feet -- everything is like this: noses, ears, etc.

Anyway, to answer your questions, there's things like foot length, toe length, nail shape, slenderness, etc.

>>159678003
>>159678171
honestly i don't even consider it to be a main pvp weapon, but as an offhand it can be useful, especially during group battles on arena for finishing people off because wa covers an impressive area and you can cancel it at any moment
in any case, still a fairly unique tool and i enjoy it probably more than i did with boom hammer back in bb as far as fire/str weapons go

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>>159678461
[VERY GOOD]

>>159678376
Place/pass?

>>159677995
>>159678376

I got like three or four from thrall hood farming. If that other Anon doesn't want to give it to you, I can.

why does pyro always turn pve into a joke? it's been this way in all 3 games

>>159678873

high wall / flam

>>159678878

please do fampai, I was farming for several hours last night and again today with no luck