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Elite Knight edition

Shitheads: >>159543065

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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ASHEN ONES COLLAGE 2.0
Part 2

Now that everyone's had a chance to try out the DLC armor, it's time for another character collage. Due to feedback last time, gestures, attacks, etc are now allowed, but standing still is still perfectly acceptable.
See top left of the image for instructions, and make sure to follow them!
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could you always change weapon art attacks of longsword and greatswords or it's something new introduced by the patch?
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>>159571273
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>>159571404
What are you even talking about
No Stance is not new
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The Elite Knight set is garbage.
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>>159571404
>>159571629
>change
*chain
fucking auto-correct
i'm talking about ability to chain guardbreak wa into the sword charge WA and vice versa without entering stance animation again
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>>159571751
agreed.
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>sacred flame hit 360°
>lifehunt scythe doesn't
wew
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>>159571656
Where are the Heineken beer cans?
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Is /dsg/ arena still going on?
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>>159571751
>Shield arm armored despite it being protected by the fucking shield
>Sword arm unarmored despite it being the arm that gets more exposed on offense

>They keep getting it wrong with every asymmetric armor set, much like using the Lucerne backwards and other fuckups because dumb japs cannot into medieval Europe
>Fromdrones unironically believe they're correct and that the sword arm needs to be unarmored due to "weight" issues or other retarded arguments that assume medieval arms and armor weighed 2 tons and severely crippled mobility/range of motion

Two nukes were not enough.
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>>159572021
Those were in the trash/muck puddles, I actually think they were removed once it became a widely known thing
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>>159572021
Weren't those in 1? Or was that a bag of chips, I forget.
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What is the penalty of using crow quills throwing knifes when out of FP?
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And until next time, martyrsbrigade is.. out!

I love how pumped up he sounds here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj8y11UcVmA
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It kind of seems like purple invaders should be able to interact with enemy monsters in invasions. That would make sense as a wildcard summon wouldn't it. I know I'm late to the party on this one but it's still a letdown..

I just really like the idea of being able to invade and force yourself onto someone as an ally...or enemy. I guess I could always help a host kill reds but meh.
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>invade
>4v1
>kill a few phantoms
>eventually estus runs out and die to r1 spam while host continues to summon phantoms
>point down
Are arenas more fun? All I'm getting is this shit.
I'd take more haveldads in the forest over this bullshit, at least you should backstab them out of estus.
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>tfw the quick reply window and captchas fuck up and you can't post mommy rosaria untl about 20 posts in
I'M SORRY MOMMY
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>>159572332
God I forgot how much I HATE the way his character and anyone elses "waifu"looks
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>>159572106
I think they're just basing it on jousting armor, where that does make sense. Except no one fights on foot or on a battlefield in jousting armor.
But frogmouth helms look cool so I'll forgive it.
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>>159572021
For the umpteenth time, the beercan was in the GoS puddle, not the gutter pillar
>>159572106
Is this bait? A shield doesn't make you immune, you still need protection against bashing. The sword arm needs to be agile. Go check some actual armor. The left arm is always equally if not more armored than the right. It's not just a matter of weight, armor just doesn't allow as extensive movement
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>>159572482

I think it's supposed to be his wife.
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How much AR should I strive for on an axe?
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>>159572106
>using the Lucerne backwards
The Mirdan hammer in Demon's was the hammer side to the enemy.
I think the intention here was to make a galberd that inflicts thrust damage.
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>>159572367
Reminder that the main fuckup with purple summons is that the purple gets NO reward if the host makes it to the boss fog. You have zero reason to summon a grape or trust a grape because they're heavily incentivized to backstab you if you don't get invaded by a dark spirit.
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>>159572106
>lucerne backwards
Do you think the spike side is just for decoration? Really it should use both sides for different moves, but there is no "backwards".
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>>159572589
...Well then
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>>159572106
>dumb japs cannot into medieval Europe
You have to admit though, From does medieval Europe a hundred times better than most other Nip RPGs - and even a great deal of western RPGs. As you and >>159572490 points out, a lot of the armour is impractical or would have been tournament stuff in the real world, but I'll take a single Dark Souls armour set that even slightly resembles a real life set of armour (with stuff like asymetrically armoured arms, closed helms and surcoats) over a hundred shitty World of Warcraft or generic RPG armour sets with inch thick metal, giant pauldrons and nothing but open face helmets.
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>>159572719
I've got about 430 on my man serpent hatchet but it's a bit of an odd case since it's classed as an axe type weapon but has the shotel effect. Or is supposed to anyway, I'm not even sure how the shotel effect is supposed to work and the few times I've tried looking it up didn't yield any informative results. It's also a faith build so I don't know how that would translate into other builds at all.
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>>159572546
>armor just doesn't allow as extensive movement
Blatantly false, medieval plate armor was deliberately made to have more range of movement than the human body, specifically to not hinder the wearer. You can't afford to restrict movement in warfare.
The main issues with armor were heat (though not -as- bad as to "cook" the person wearing it as weebs would have you believe), vision (this is why a lot of visors on the more popular helmets in history are liftable if not outright removable), and ability to hear.
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2v2 ARENAS still up!

PASS dsg

PC

Come have some fun! :D
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>>159573151
Shotels ignored 50% of shield damage reduction in DaS2.
They ignore like 10% in DaS3 so the shotel effect is mostly useless.
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>>159572865
Reminder that DaS3 pvp and co-op is total shit as the PVE is trivial and any pvp incentive is ruined by the fact that invasions are total shit due to the PVE being even more trivial with summons.
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>>159573004
They're still fucking miles away from something like Witcher 3.
They can't shake off those Jap ass weeb tendencies.
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>>159572865
Yea pretty well. Although one could argue that the rewards aren't much of a deal anyways. Still the what's the point lul.
At least you can be a risky as fuck bodyguard.
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>>159573381
Oh well. It's not like I ever really ran into people using shields anyway and if I did it would probably work better to just kick it and get a riposte unless that's disabled on players.
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>>159573235
As an addendum, most of the armor tropes like restricted movement and armored shield arms stem from jousting armor, where you're basically strapped to your horse in a borderline immobile state and the armor has to minimize potential damage from having a lance crash into you as much as possible. The reason you armor the shield arm in a joust is because you don't use a shield the same way as in warfare; "blocking" is something you avoid as much as possible in warfare, you use the shield to parry, to divert force, not to absorb it as it would in a joust.
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>>159571207
Yhorm lived in the Profaned Capital, even if he wasn't originally from there, which is canonically beneath Irithyll. They're in the same place, even before the lands converged (as Sulyvahn discovered the Profaned Capital a long time ago). So either no, no Lord of Cinder was from Drangleic, or if the Profaned Capital *is* part of Drangleic then that means Drangleic and Lordran *are* the same place, or at least overlap.
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>Still no bloodborne dashes
Why even dodge?
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>>159572106
you do know that when fighting a shield user you do anything you can to get around the shield, yeah?

your sword basically is your right hand's shield
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>>159573805
desu if you ignore the "DaS2 is not canon" meme then the Profaned Capital is likely Eleum Loyce, with Irithyll built over it.
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Alright, so I fucked up Greirat's questline and now I don't have access to Exploding Bolts. What's the next best thing?

Knight's crossbow with lightning bolts?
Black Bow of Pharsis with Dark Arrows?
Arbalest with Heavy Bolts?
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>>159573235
range of movement =/= mobility

which was the real main problem of wearing full armor

a fully armored limb is going to both move slower and become fatigued twice as fast, and when you think about it your sword arm is going to be moving the most out of all your limbs

having armor on either the left or right arm and not the other has pros and cons and i've seen real armor that does either
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>>159572028
yes
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>>159573979
NG+
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>>159572719
This much
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>>159573564
>Katanas do fucktons of damage "cut beautifully" and induce bleeding and are the bestest weapon ever
>Hammers and maces are compared to other weapon types not very effective
>Avelyn

Thanks Japan
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>>159572028
>>159573379
>>159573379
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>>159571273
Here you go
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>>159573004
DeS and DaS1/3 are pure armor porn at times
>switch from light armor to heavy armor
>armor clatters nicely as you walk
>foes can hear you approaching from further away if you have heavy armor due to the noise made by walking in the armor

Honestly, I just wish there would sometimes be more pronounced differences between damage types and their effect on armor, like slash weapons should have less impact on armored foes and in contrast strike would have less effect on padded / leather / light armor.
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>>159571273
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come have fun in the arena!
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oh my
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when are we getting our customary chaos blade buff? what will this buff look like?
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>>159573879
Wrong. Your shield is your right hand's shield.
That being said, you can certainly parry with the sword while going for a strike with the edge of the shield.
You do know the wild overly telegraphed attack animations in Dark Souls where your shield arm points behind your back for no reason isn't realistic, right?
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Is there any good looking heavy sets?
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>Host starts backpedaling for WoB summon
>Wait for WoBfag to show up, desperate for an ear
>Waste his time
>Black Crystal out
How can I be more of a dick when I do this?
I love it.
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>>159574367
Yeah
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>>159574319
>that head on the host
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>>159574216
>Honestly, I just wish there would sometimes be more pronounced differences between damage types and their effect on armor, like slash weapons should have less impact on armored foes and in contrast strike would have less effect on padded / leather / light armor.

This was a thing in 1 and 2. Scaled enemies like Man-Serpents took much lower damage from slashing weapons, and in 2 the sheer amount of heavily armored knight enemies meant that weapons like the Mace tore through PvE with greater ease than swords.

I haven't noticed anything in 3 besides certain enemies being weak to fire or lightning.
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>>159574367
Cathedral Knights and Black Iron.
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>>159574126
Hammers and maces were the best weapon type in DaS2 PvE.
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>>159574330
I have an unreasonable amount of hatred towards this dweeb
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>>159574573
My most recent playthrough was with powerstance maces with magic weapon, tore through shit
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is there, like, ANY possible way to take less damage from things besides wearing full Havels?

absorption is a fucking meme, jesus, it doesn't do shit
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>>159574846
>get hit by Lothric Castle hollow soldier
>takes 30% of HP
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>>159574634
He's pretty obnoxious when he's talking about his personal life, like how he's a vegetarian feminist with an agender life partner or whatever, and his views on some arms and armor are somewhat narrow-minded, but at least he's good about citing sources and not claiming his guesses as fact. Usually.

There's other YouTube channels for people interested in this stuff too, like Schola Gladiatora, Lindybeige, etc.
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>>159574126
Hammers were pretty decent in DaS1 pve, Reinforced Club wrecked anus
Hammers kicked ass in DaS2 pve, especially dual wielded
Tonitrus and Bloodletter untricked do ungodly damage in BB
Hammers are really fucking good in PvE and decent in PvP in DaS3

But katanas? Katanas are generally mediocre in PvE
Using a katana in DaS1 is suffering
Katanas break quickly in DaS2
Are just underwhelming in general in DaS3
Chikage seems good until you realize just how much damage everything else does without % hp drain / sec
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I saw the graph for the softcaps but, I haven't played much and was wondering where do most people cap their VIG?
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>>159573805
Propaned Capital is very likely to be Eleum Loyce like that other anon said
>Profaned(aka Chaos) flame
>Oracle is mentioned(Alsanna?)
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>>159574996
katanas were good in demon's souls
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>>159574943
At least DaS1 had the decency to recolor the newbie hollows into CRYSTAL HOLLOWS to explain why they suddenly deal 20 times more damage. 2 had them not be hollow in the Memories, but living humans, which is questionable but at least still different.
DaS3 is such a hackjob with borderline MMORPG tier design decisions like arbitrarily stronger versions of the exact same enemy.
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>>159574838
I'm doing my first playthrough and I';m really regretting pumping str for the greatsword, it's so fucking slow and if you're not 100% accurate with your swings it goes straight through enemies.

I think DS3 has spoiled me with "corner cuts" on my large weapons, specially with 1.08 greatswords.

I just feel like I made a massive mistake pumping souls and stat investment for this shit weapon and would of been better off running a 1h weapon + greatshield or even a dumbass estoc.
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>>159574943
>hit by lothric castle UGS knight on NG
>80% of health gone
>hit by Yhorm on NG+7
>50% of health gone
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>>159571273
Is this okay?
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>>159574573
That's 100% wrong but ok buddy
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>>159574846
Iron Flesh.
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>>159573979
Kill Dragonslayer Armor and Yhorm for me and I'll buy you all the bolts you need.
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>>159575204
Can you read?
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>>159573564
True. I'd dare say Witcher 3 is the best medieval Europe RPG in terms of clothing and armour. I'd love if Dark Souls had more non-armour sets that aren't 'fancy dress,' 'fancy robes' and 'big trench coat.' I need some peasant tunics, tight breeches and caps, man.

>>159573910
>>159575116
I understand the Propaned Capital being Eleum Loyce thing but it still sits oddly with me. Given that it's an underground city some way below Anor Londo, it makes the most sense (to me at least) that it's built on the ruins of New Londo.
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>>159574959
Yeah, its just that from my experiences (mostly irl) people keep parroting stuff this guy says as gospel in any sort of historical combat context, even saw an invader the other day with the guy's nickname.
+ I'm a kenjutsu practitioner of 10 years, nippon steel > yurop sticks
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>>159575286
what? they were god tier for pve
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>>159573979
Don't bows kinda suck in 3 compared to crossbows?
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>>159575036
38
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Crow Talons
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>>159574846
It's another case of From trying to fix an issue from a previous game and going full retard.

>armor is worthless now because of poise/defense stacking and min/maxing
>power stance gone because of helix/mastodon shit
>SM, weapon level tiers and the way invaders prioritize hosts with phantoms because of twinking
>blessed infusion made absolutely worthless because of how good it was in DeS
>backstabs way harder to do because of constant fishing (this is a good change though)
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>>159575524
Nothing compared to Rapier early game and RIT lategame.
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>>159571273
>Spear Chucker made it in the collage

Surprised, but happy
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At some point I refuse to believe it's so many idiots replying to a tripfag every single time that I can more easily think he just gives himself replies to get more replies.
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>>159571183
Took down the wolf pack and Priscilla 2 frozen boogaloo. Is that really all their was to the DLC? I heard it was short an I appreciate that they made the PVP area, but still seems like less than what I expected.
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>>159575164
DaS1 had the total rape-tier Torch Hollows when you return to the Asylum.

Demon's Souls makes the soldiers in 1-3 much tougher as well without modifying the enemies themselves much.

DaS3 has the Demon's Souls approach :
>enemies are technically the same as the ones in the start of the game
>to make them play out a little differently, they are given more access to items such as healing grasses and Undead Hunter Charms.
>the enemies being used in more clever combination gives an illusion of better A.I
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>>159575906
As long as you follow the rules I'm not picky

>>159575204
Rule #1
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>>159575486
If by nippon steel you mean polearms, sure, they're cool.
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>>159575162
Yeah, as an offhand. Their r2s were the worst in the game
They cost 10x as much to upgrade as any other weapon and >pure bladestone
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join coop matches on PC!
pw is dsg!
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>>159575947
I don't even mind normally, I just think "lmao let's add a new ultra greatsword lothric knight that can kill a player from over 1000 hp in two hits in NG+0" is dumb.
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>when you've parried and killed 2 phantoms as well as parried the host and he frantically unzips his caestus in an attempt to not look like the massive shitter he is
>backstab him
ganks in this game is something else though, is the phantoms bc'ing to be resummoned with full estus a new meme or what?
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nth for AoA was designed by tanimura
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to the anon who asked for some help with twin princesses, sorry I couldn't come even though I told you I was coming, had some issues with my fire wall starting some shit
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>>159575947
>>the enemies being used in more clever combination gives an illusion of better A.I

They also actually look different. Their armor and equipment is in better shape.
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Anyone on ps4 need help with anything?
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>>159575973
It's not mine but I'll make one of my own later. I should have opened it first.
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>>159576289
No wonder it was so good!
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>>159575485
This is Dark Souls, leave the logic at the door.

Or rather, approach it from the game developer logic :
The "lands are converging!"-thing gives the developers a great excuse to splice areas together with little regard to their "original canon locations".
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Was this always possible or they added it with the latest patch?
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>>159576310

It's ok, I'll try again later.
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>>159576382
>Their armor and equipment is in better shape.
Still mad that DaS2 gave us several armor sets that had beat-up hollow versions and pristine versions, and DaS3 can't even give us two Lothric Knight/Cathedral Knight tabard colors or golden Winged Knight armor.
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I want to _______ her _______
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>>159571273
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>>159576591
So is that poop? Internal organs? A dead fetus?
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>>159576425
it's shit honestly
nothing but swarms of ganksquad, infinite stamina healing NPC ""boss"" because they were too lazy to make an actual boss
plus sif rehash with unblockable charges and swipes
it's all to pad out the 2 hours of content they took 7 months to produce
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>>159576810
Yes
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>>159576283
invaders have the advantage lalalalala I can't hear you hide behind enemies more lalalalala hosts are fine lalalalala
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>>159576706
wew
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>>159576891
Yeah, on a serious note agreed on some points but strongly agree with the duration, it's just a little too little and a little too "meh" for being 1/2 of the potentially last Souls experience ever.

Flaws aside DaS2 was great though
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>>159576698
Post the foot job, that faggot scas seems to have deleted it
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>>159576891
I honestly hope the DLC's are so shit because From just wants to get done with their obligations to Bamco, and are instead working on projects they feel motivated to do. Naive and hopeful, but that's my headcannon.
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>tfw can block annoying players and not have to play against them ever again
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>>159576810
The crow village looked absolutely fucking miserable when I first entered. The poor crow fuckers can't even fight back.
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Justify summoning 3 phantoms /dsg/
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>>159576591
I can help you
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>>159577208
>3 with a hidden 4
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Threadly reminder that pyromancers are overpowered and banned from fightclubs since they all overlevel to get an edge. Cheaters.
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>>159577208
jolly cooperation :p

\[T]/
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>>159577140
>the entire game aside das2 was great
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>>159571273
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pyromancers outside of the team battles look so cute and lost, awww
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>>159577279
>3 pillars of King's rule with a hidden 4th
>3 sisters of Sable Church (with a hidden 4th)
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>>159577359
Do you REALLY find it that bad?
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>>159577273

Ok! I'll be waiting at the fog gate, password dsg.
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>>159577489
not him but yes
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>>159577140
if we remove flaws there will be left less than 5% of ds2
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mlgs or gsoj and why?
The build will revolver on mostly using the weapon and less so on spells. I rarely roll spell casters.
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>>159577489
Yes.
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>>159577208
Four knights of Gwyn playthrough
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>>159577459

Pyro is overpowered
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>>159577524
My dark souls disconnected. My apologies
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>>159577273
>>159577524

I died let's try again!
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>>159571273
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>>159577598
Pure preference. GSOJ has better AR if it's buffed but MLGS has more consistent AR and a WA that hits like a Panzer.
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>>159576526
It's new.

>>159577598
MLGS is better for VIT / poise gougers as it only needs one stat.
GSOJ does more damage outside of point blank charged r2s. You won't be casting much with it.
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Das2 would have been goat if you only could invade those with a similar +weapon ala das3. Rate?
Rate?
Rate??
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>>159577871
>It's new.

How didn't it work before? Did you just have to wait and take the stance again?
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>>159577487
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>>159577704
sorry but we're not going back to a boring as fuck "quality is the strongest build possible to a point all other ones are not needed" meta so deal with it
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>>159577610
>>159577527
nice /v/pinion
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>>159577459
>Disconnected right next to the bonfire and alone
People really can't take losing in this game, can they?
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>>159577527
>>159577359
>>159577586
>>159577610
Honestly, I never found the allegedly janky/sluggish combat unbearable, it's markedly more "loose" on its handling and I find DaS was very "snappy" with its movements and rolls. the netcode on 2 was certainly better in my experience, lagstabs happen but when have they not? The actual biggest downsides I can think of is the hit-and-miss areas/enemies/bosses, soul memory and some choices like the very linear world and again, the handling - I think the controls and the gameplay elements are certainly its biggest flaws and if you cant get past them, fair enough, I know I did and I thought it had many many more hours of content compared to the rest of the series even today, it TRIED A LOT of different things, pve covenants, bonfire ascetics and seemingly all around more and more variety in builds even if that stumbled with adaptability
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I didn't know he actually played his own games.
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>>159577895

No, DaS2 can't be fixed without completely rebuilding it.
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>>159577871
holy shit this makes stances so much better
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>tfw haven't played my pyro since like a month before the DLC because everyone thinks they're OP now
>pyro was my favorite character
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>>159578069
join arena 2v2. Bring cancer!

pw is dsg!
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>>159577895
What does that have to do with literally anything
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>>159578126
What needs fixing? I'll laugh at you if you say SM
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>>159577487
>3 banwaves with an expected 4th
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>>159577736
that really worked, Maybe I should stick with the zwei
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>>159578063
DS2's netcode was horrible in terms of hit detection. Even worse than DS3, even worse than BB, i never got such a ridiculous phantom range in them.
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>>159578198
I'm level 16 with +1 weapons.
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>>159578258
3 souls games with a hidden fourth
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>Brigand Twin Daggers
>Aldrich's Sapphire
>Simple Parry Dagger

Never had so much fun
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>>159578198
1more 1ever
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>>159578367
I didnt mean to quote :3
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>>159578063
>it tried
sums up ds2 nicely
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>>159578418
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>>159577208
DaS 3 is designed for multiple phantoms
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>>159573979
Alright anon, I killed yhorm and dragonslayer so you can blow up people. Mind muling some souls for me?
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>>159578403
I didnt know sacred flame had enough hyper armor to sustain RBs. Maybe that's it's selling point.
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>>159578324

Thanks for the help, this fight is really annoying for me.
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>>159578205
SM is one of the worse decisions in the entirelly of DaS 2
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>>159576437
>The "lands are converging!"-thing
Christ this annoys me
The game explicitly tells you this, but then the whole world is connected pretty much seamlessly, and you can see why most of the areas lead into each other.

It really seems like the *only* part of the world that is changed/churning is Lothric castle/city being thrust way up, like the plateau its on suddenly appeared, but the actual presence of the city still makes sense.
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>>159578670
I think it's only in the lunge parts but it definitely has some
I have 11.94 poise so it's probably not a bad amount
>>
WHAT mode is dsg using in arena right now
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>>159578836
2v2 as allways, dsg
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>>159577208
It's not a hard game even solo, but PvE is a hassle so I summoned friends in every playthrough except the first
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>>159578780
>whole world is connected pretty much seamlessly
it's not
lower exit of cathedral of the deep leads nowhere like the whole cathedral was teleported to a different location
there's a nice road leading out of Irithyll but landslide destroyed it completely
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>>159578880
After suddenly being raped by a man that took no damage with thousand damage miracles, gotthard twirling faggots, flavor of the month shit, washing pole, passive chip pyros and sorcerers, I've had enough of /dsg/ arenas
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>>159578658

It's for a PvP character, so I'm going to need 1000s.
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>>159578880

I'm in the 2 Versus 2 queue and im alone with the dsg pass

weird
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>>159577192
I have two loli footjobs saved.
What's in it for me?
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>>159571273
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>>159579076
Sure, pass/location?
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>>159577192
Are you to dumb to use the archive?
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>>159579149
A bunch of (you)s
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>>159579059

pyros are pretty overpowered now
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>>159579245
are you just going to say this every time pyromancy is mentioned
>>
>>159579225
Why would you need 1000s when you can just roll back saves?
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Why is the Xanthous Crown so shit in 3
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So we can all agree that current version of arty's greatsword is the best iteration of it in the entire series, right?
>long and strong as fuck
>doesn't require you to left hand it like a lame ds2 version
>WA was buffed and comes fast enough to catch people on wakeup, panic rolling or even punish spam or parry attempts
>has all signature moves of Artorias at once
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>>159579397
its old
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Am I /fa/ yet?
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welp dsg arena is shit

i zone in to a 2 v 1 since my partner is afk and go against pyro and dmb gottards

no thanks
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>>159579397

At least it's not the DaS2 version.
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>>159579397
evolution of Xanthous set is one of the things i really liked about ds3
instead of just copypasting it, they changed it and gave it a new lore that connects it to DS1 but also gives a new look
>>
Can anyone on PC hook me up with some consumable souls and ng++ rings?

The grinding is unreal, I've been killing these fat fucks for 1 hour and still haven't gone up from 68 to 120.
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>>159579562
t. integra
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>queue 2v2s
>Integra on the other team
>go something like 3 or 4-0 up fast and with ease
>a connection error has occured
wwwwwww
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>>159579525
>Hexer
Delete and try again
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>>159579525
magneto/10
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Damn why is the DLC area the best to invade?
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>>159579225

Nah, thank you for the offer but my autism won't let me play with just a finite amount, and I don't want to keep reverting my saves constantly.

Also you can only carry 30 at a time.

I think I'll just go to NG+ or something.
>>
>>159579525
at least you tried to be different instead of wearing the same generic rags and asking that same question
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>>159579706
Invaded once. Couldn't find the host. Black crystal'd out.
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>>159574959
>he's a vegetarian feminist with an agender life partner or whatever
>listening to a single word this person has to say as if they are an authority on anything
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>>159579639
ikr? at least he died
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>>159571273
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>>159579562
t. Integra
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never thought i will enjoy using a rapier so much
even reiterpallach looks lame as fuck in comparison
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https://exhentai.org/g/993988/cbbc12f324/
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>>159579639
Looks like someone lacks... Integraty
>>
i'm glad AoA continues the Bloodborne trend of introducing enemies that I have to turn my sound down to fight, was really missing that
>>
Integra confirmed for maximum shitter lmao
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>>159579639

It was 2 v 1 since my partner was afk. Of course I'm going to disconnect out.

e-bushido code of e-honor be damned
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>>159579631
what
You should be 90-100 by game end and then it's only like 40 minutes of farming to hit 120
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>>159580117
>they state that the DLC will have a 'horror theme' before release
>birds screeching
lmao
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>>159579820
died twice and died easily no less
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>>159580215
I'm at 108, got 40 levels by levelling up and also I bought a bunch of things like chunks and explosive bolts.

Anyway can you help?
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>>159580117
KRRRRRRR
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
AAAAAAAHH
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEERRGHHH
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>>159579981
kek
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>>159579981
what a time to have my login info not saved and I cant remember my password time to hate myself more lol
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>>159578338
>posting anecdotes as hard evidence
Joke's on you, I personally had far better netcode experiences in 2 than 1 or 3.
>>
Irithyll Dungeon is a great zone with utter shit-tier enemies
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>>159580612
no matter what people will post you, you will just disregard it
meanwhile even soulbrandt faggots were crying about ds2's hit detection in pvp
>>
DARK SOULS™ II
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>>159580215
I was 80 on my first playthrough when I finished the game.
And I did lots of pvp and jolly cooperation.
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Does anyone know when the NG scaling stops in DaS3? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
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>>159579981
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>>159580841
Difficulty stops scaling at NG+7. You still get more souls for each NG though.
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>>159580716
had more screamers that spooked me than most horror movies.
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>>159580803
When did those guys know anything about anything, and what HAVEN'T they cried over?
Fuck it, I liked DaS2 lot and even still boot it up now and then and I really recommend you to give it a good honest go
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>>159577192
I have it and I won't share

Loli painter is mine and only mine!
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>>159580803
>no matter what people will post you, you will just disregard it
Says the anecdotal evidence faggot. Is it that hard to admit that other people had fun with "game you didn't like"?
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>>159581067
i tried it probably more than you did, anon
the game even showed some promise before they started butchering fun with patches
i thought dlc would save it
but in the end, it never truly improved, it's a game broken on virtually every level possible with some aspects becoming worse with patches and re-release
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>>159581385
I understand when people "grow out" of games but man, this is sad
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>want help on the ariandel boss
>look at summon signs
>everyone is meme face/ name and dies in first or second phase
fine
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>>159579981
How the fuck do I recover my login info.
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>>159579981
This was a good ride
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>>159581689
And nice day to you too anon
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>>159577704
not in duels
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>>159581541
Summon Gael. You don't need a phantom for the first phase with some practice, he makes the second phase much less tedious, and he'll die pretty early in the third phase, helping you just a little bit but giving you the satisfaction of defeating Blackflame (mostly) by yourself.
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Integra confirmed for huge faggot that uses pyro and miracles + chases you down with fire surge pokes when you get low
>>
I give up

I'm going meta
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>>159577489
DS2 is the only game I was unwilling to play through more than once
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>>159581854
you're resorting to calling people out as faggots while posting """ironic""" hedgehog oc

are you really that upset?
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>>159581689
A bib?
>>
any lore on that massive mountain-sized dragon at archdragon peak (besides that it's probably the namesake of the level)?
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>>159581868
What even is meta these days?

People complain about so many things it seems like almost everything is meta.
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>>159581837
I'm in NG+ at SL 65. I find he drops dead before really helping with anything. The AI rubber band thing seems to make him act odd too.
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>>159581974
a toot
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EVERYONE QUEUE UP FOR 3V3 ARENAS

Going to do some RECORDING for a vg vs vg arena video.

Bring your best or your worst, but try and have some fun!

PASS dsg
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REAL HELPFUL ENEMY YOU HAVE HERE FROM
and this is without seed
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Have you been getting your daily hate mail /dsg/?
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>>159581854
>chases you down with fire surge pokes when you get low
Is there something wrong with this
I mean yes how dare he use a spell in an effective way
>>
whats the point of chaos/crystal/dark/lightning infused weapons when you can't buff them
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>>159582061
i'm going to ensure my internet is as shit as possible, that's the true meta
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>>159582091
kek
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>>159581854
No one likes Integra. I keep telling not to summon him for FCs and you guys should just talk over on steam amd decide another password
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>>159582142
because it has elemental damage without you having to buff like a moron every 60 seconds
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>>159581854
t. Integra looking for sympathy
>>
>>159582142
to provide melee options for caster builds without being as broken as ds2's elemental weapons
anyone who asks why we can't buff infused elemental weapons deserves to get raped by 700 AR gesturebuffed crystal carthus curved with CMW
>>
how 2 farm ember?
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>>159582112
When Dark Souls exploded in popularity it really attracted a whole lot of entitled dregs who shouldn't be graced with video games to begin with
>>
>Havelbro afk and Integra afk

lel
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>>159581994
summon me u fuck
>>
>dsg is more meta than regular arenashitters
Wow, and you guys would have me think that it's the other way around
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>>159581994
Take on Ariandel and let Gael deal with Friede. Gael is fucking awful at defence, so Ariandel's high damage attacks take him out very quickly. However, he can tank through a lot of Friede's attacks, and his great sword staggers her easily. Attack Ariandel's fat ass until you get a riposte on him, and keep dodging his huge telegraphed attacks, and Gael should deal with Friede. Keep an eye on the ground in case you run into one of Friede's frost attacks though, and keep an eye out for Friede trying to heal, because Gael rarely gets to her in time to stop it.
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>>159582112
>Humble Bundle Official
ouch, man
they got you there
>>
>>159581687
guess im fucked
already tried 50 combinations of names and passwords kill me
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>>159581982
Flame Surge, Black Flame, Black Serpents
Parting Flame
Dark Carthus Curved Sword/Dark Thrall Axe (1H Thrall Axe R1 can be combo'd from black flame)
Dark Washing Pole as back up
Or use Onyx blade

Use Black Serpents at far range.
Use Flame Surge to poke at mid to close range.
Always trade with Black Flame, with parting flame you will always win the trade usually netting you 700+ damage and can combo into R1 depending on the weapon.

Black Flame has almost infinite poise so you should always win your trades.

Enjoy the new age of fire.
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>>159582445
t. Integra
>>
>>159582091
Deserved
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>>159582061
hurry the fuck up, we need 2 more
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ONLY A FEW MORE FOR 3v3 ARENAS

GUNA RECORD

PASS dsg
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>>159582058
Oho!
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>>159582091
Is it always hostile or does it just have friendly fire on?
>>
Looking to make a Viking style character for new playthrough of DS III, any character design slider ideas to get a good looking viking?
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>>159582450
To be fair, one guy gave me 6 invites a few minutes ago.
>nu uh, it ain't cancer if I'm using it
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>>159582142
None, just like the previous games. Raw if you're caster, quality if you're melee.

DaS2 is an exception because infusions were actually good.


Never go elemental imbue unless you can reliably tumblebuff.
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>>159582458
go to ehentai
recover password
there you go, assuming you can think of an email you used to sign up.
>>
>>159582382
I'm on personal computer and afraid of embarrassing myself in front of /dsg/.
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>>159581541
Do you still want some help ? I need souls
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>>159582629
Any enemies that can damage other enemies can harm invaders. That means corvian knights, gravekeepers in cathedral/graves, black knights, etc.
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Is there a worse enemy in the entire souls series?
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>>159582245

We've discussed Integra in the discord. The concensus is that he's normie trash. But he's """""nice""""" so we can't get people like NMS on board to ban him for life.
>>
>>159582748
ur mom lmao
>>
>>159582112
>people still get mad at you for using estus
What a riot, if you can't stop me from taking a sippy the loss is on you bub.
>>
>>159582517
but integra is a metashitter
You're just memeing at this point
Unless you're integra just fishing for attention
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>>159581541
want help? I'm pure cancer.
set pw dsg
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>>159582696
If you're up for it, sure. Pass is dsg
>>
>>159582748
Love DS2 but I cant comprehend what they were or were not thinking of with the tracking on those things
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>>159582510
How to beat pyrocancers:

Step 1. Equip Onikiri & Ubadachi
Step 2. Apply Carthus Rouge
Step 3. Keep your distance from them waiting for them to cast Black Serpent
Step 4. Press L2 executing Onislayer to leap over their Black Serpent and slice their face off
Step 5. Follow it up with L1 and they will die from bleed
Step 6. Gesture -> Point Down
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>>159582748
millwoof knight
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>>159582112

Had some host pissed off at me because I guerrilla'd his ass while fighting a milliwood knight while his butt buddy phantom goes off alone and fights the other one in the tower area.

Why is this DLC great for being guerrilla?
>>
>tfw you tell your soulsfriends you hate dark souls 2 just so you can fit in
>tfw it's actually your favorite souls game
;_; they must never know
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>>159581854
Anon confirmed for steaming pile of angry barbecue who only posted because he lost to a pyro
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Are you real invaders, /dsg/?
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>>159582646
>raw on casters

That's pretty dumb.

>>159582142

Dark on pyro, chaos for PvE, both infusions are a tad too strong even.
Crystal is a good infusion and possibly the fairest of them
Lightning is shit, don't bother. The secret for fth is that blessed unironically hits harder than lightning, so use it.
Both are underpowered though, since from hates fth
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>>159582849
i've got the password set up on PC if that's your system
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>>159582935
>casting black serpent when you see your opponent is in range of O&U's WA
I mean sure, your guide works on bad pyros.
>>
>>159583086
it is
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>>159582792
>unzips GFS when someone plays in a way that triggers him

I don't care what you discordfags think. Bans don't work like that, we don't have votes. Just ask hosts to ignore their signs and leave arenas when he comes
>>
>>159582935
How to beat pyrocancers

Step 1. Have a crossbow or bow
Step 2. ????????
Step 3. Profit
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>>159583114
99% of pyros are shit at the game and rerolled from their Dark Sword/CCS build when they heard how OP it is.
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>>159582935
Just space black flame properly and don't roll forward in to black serpent. Serpent is unreliable and everything else save for black flame is just an idiot killer.
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>>159582939
>Why is this DLC great for being guerrilla?
It's got a vast variety of areas for you to pick despite being short and each area are interchangeable loop-arounds like the follower forest are topped with connected hills and the town have a cluster, tightly knitted houses. The first area is okay with it's only supporting features are doggos, blizzard and being wide.
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>>159582632
>>159582632
>>159582632
>>159582632
Anyone at all? Looking to make a viking, male or female as long as they can look authentic (if they can at all) just need some nice sliders.
>>
>>159582510
>>159582935
>>159583114
>>159583237

Do people legitimately unironically believe that Pyro's are OP or cancer? God forbit casters finally be viable for once right? Fucking From, I just want quality to be viable!!!
>>
>Comfy Warrior unzips a Sabre in the 3v3
>still loses

Heh.
>>
>literally have to hide and reapply my dragon body so people don't stunlock me on spawn
you guys are the worst
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>>159583214

He even posts Re ddit links in our discord and thinks its ok. I delete them but he wont stop
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>>159583334
I don't think they're OP but they are clearly flavour of the month. I see more pyros with Onyx Blade than I see Dark Sword, Estoc and CCS users combined these days.
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>>159583305
The worst part of the DLC are the dead ends/one way trips.
If a host is on the opposite side of a cut bridge and puts the obscuring ring on, there's nothing you can do.
I know this because I've been pulling it out non stop
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>>159583324
I dunno dude, what do you think a real viking is? Blonde or red hair, blue eyes, pale skin and a broad jaw? Big beard maybe?
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>>159583367
do you queue for coop pvp or specifically?
t. not integra.
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>>159583427
What happens to your poise & absorption when you dragonform?
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>>159583427
Jeez, they actually make you reapply that?
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>>159583287
I really like how your webm showcases that you can beat bad players rather than pyromancers. I think I have a webm of me killing a pyro who black flamed the floor behind him and gave me a free backstab. I should start posting that with the name "Pyros are literally OP". I'll hunt for it
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why does everyone hate pyros so much?
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>Still can't parry yourself
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>>159583556
too cute
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>>159582853
I'm on my way
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>>159583556
their zoning is too hard.
I played with one and against one the last /dsg/ matches, unless you got balls and just go in they slowly rape you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrbZc-J0-Z4

this is so goddamn good. best music in the series (not counting bloodborne)
shame the fight was a bit short and unsatisfying
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>>159583510
>If a host is on the opposite side of a cut bridge and puts the obscuring ring on, there's nothing you can do.
Can confirm. Had so much fun waiting for fags to get into the center of the bridge so I can cut it.
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>>159582668
I can login into e but not ex why god
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>>159583427
I wonder if there's actually an upside to that. Maybe you could be really beefy pre-dragonform then pop it at low health for supermode?

>>159583550
It showcases that you can space black flame. You have more reach. It doesn't matter how fucking good my opponent is, it's not like it'll make his black flame hitbox larger than a greatsword R1. Go be retarded somewhere else.
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>>159583556
Because Casters aren't allowed to be viable.
Black Flame hyper armoing through and trading with your R1 for 700 damage into another R1 for 150-300 for a total of 850-1000 damage for pyros is apparently broken and OP but trading with a warpick for 400 into guaranteed R1 for another 400 with roll catch setup afterwords for another 400 is okay.
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>>159583492
I said I don't give a shit what you guys do there.
>getting around the filters
Just that he's a person no one likes playing with
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>>159583745
after account creation it takes 7 days unless you get exhentai access.
else: your plugin is broken. I had this a couple of times, restart pc.
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>>159583884
ive had an ex account for years
I cleared my history on accident with ccleaner
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Using your weapon art resets your poise health to 100%, however does using Galvanize or Sharpen follow this rule?

>>159583003
>Using Vestiges

Yeah your a pretty bad pyro who just played against someone who doesn't know that he has to run at you at a 45 degree angle instead of rolling
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>>159583709
It's weird, I enjoyed BB but it's OST never struck out as memorable for me.

I can't remember a single theme for the game.
But I can for DaS1/DaS3 and DeS
>>159583803
That anon was retarded, but you didn't outspace him. He literally just casted it when you were too far away, that was his mistake rather than you're "outplay". A good pyro doesn't randomly cast Black Flame unless you're touching or see an R1 coming. That retard just casted it for no reason.
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>>159584027
let me guess, you prefer GCFO no scopes?
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I wish they made the mountain pass here and put at least 3 more of these towers.

Then where is the current montain pass, they could've extended the village.
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>>159584027
Galvanize has HA so probably
Dunno if Sharpen does
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>>159584053
listen to the ludwig or gehrman tracks in BB
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>>159583492
>so autistic that you ban any and all links from reddit
Wew lad, glad I didn't fall for the dsg discord meme
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>>159584027
It follows the rule if your WA has poise itself.
Sharpen can be interrupted, I think, so it doesn't count.
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What about a covenant that didn't notify the host when you invaded and let you disguise your red signs as white, BUT you only got half health and no estus as a phantom
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>>159584053
>That anon was retarded, but you didn't outspace him. He literally just casted it when you were too far away, that was his mistake rather than you're "outplay".
that makes zero difference. You have more reach with a GS, therefore they have no openings whatsoever.

>A good pyro doesn't randomly cast Black Flame unless you're touching or see an R1 coming.
Then they have zero openings. On top of that, the guy clearly expected an R1, and guess what I did: I walked backwards a step, then attacked when he tried casting black flame. It's completely spaceable, the capabilities of my opponent make zero difference.
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>>159584142
Man, I didn't even notice that little area of the DLC until after I'd beaten Friede and Ariandel. People who say that the Painted World is an empty open are stupid memers. It's one of the best areas in Dark Souls 3 in my opinion, and most certainly the best open outdoors area.
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What do you guys think of Necropolis?
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>>159584484
never played, saw it a while ago, looked interesting
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>>159583630
Thank you for the help, great cancer anon. You're the best kind of cancer.

And to the anon who offered advice, and the other one who tried to help me.
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>>159584183
I've fought Ludwig in 4 different playthroughs, and Gehrman in 3 different playthroughs, after my 4th' playthrough, I play with headphones and I can't even remember the tracks; I'll give it another listen. But they weren't as memorable as the likes of Maiden Astrea, Gwyn or champ, or hell even SoC's phase1
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>>159584419
it's one of the best invasion areas in the entire franchise and generally a really good and comfy area with great feeling of adventure
really love how open it is so you can either rush it if you want equipment or take it slow instead of being forced into making each playthrough the same like it was with DS2 dlcs
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>play a game once
>finish it
>had a very good experience with it
>play it again
>finish it
>still enjoyed myself
>play it 17 times and add 600 hours in pvp to that
>THE GAME IS BORING AND SHIT STUPID JAPS 2 BOMBS WERENT ENOUGH

/dsg/ in a nutshell
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>>159584125
Vestiges, like it's predecessor Forbidden Sun and the Sorcery equivalent Crystal Soul Spear (compared to White Dragon Breath) is for idiots who cant learn how to play unlocked (80% of the pvp community I estimate). GCFO is also more FP efficient than Vestiges

>>159584149
There is no hyper armor in this game, only poise exists but thanks for letting me know that Galvanize has poise.

>>159584208
Does the Butcher knife have poise on any of it's attacks? That's why I was asking in the first place
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You people are some real fucking hypocrites for complaining about meta with all this shit you're pulling in the 2v2/3v3s.
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>>159584484
>>159584543
For those uninformed its randomly generated Dark Souls.
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>>159584651

I am hoping the other DLC will be as good when it comes to invading.
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>>159584419
It's a map that's set up decently for invaders who bait. The wolves also follow and hang out with invaders which is neat.
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>>159584672
>600 hours in pvp to that
Found the retard
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ok i will just accept that slowly every little thing is gonna fuck up and I will destroy myself with my fucked up brain and no ways to cope besides physically harming my body with bats and knives lol
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>>159584484
putrid shit, one of the worst games i've played this year, just a horrifying abomination
random level generation makes sure that no level looks interesting or plays fun
difficulty doesn't exist unless you're braindead
game mechanics are just awful, it's an even more primitive souls clone than lords of the fallen
i have no idea what devs smoked while making it and not another shadowrun
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>>159584560
>You're the best kind of cancer.

These words warm my heart <3
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>>159584723
lmao play to win dog, we bitch because its broken but we use it because we know its broken
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>>159584718
GCFO takes longer and can be combed into from fewer attacks. Your opponent has to be literally retarded to ever be hit by GCFO, you can be struck by black flame and still just dodge it on reaction. Stop pretending to be good when you need to ask other anons how poise works in spite of the fact that this patch has been out for over a week.
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>>159584776
>enormous vertical gothic castle
>not a single fog gate
>traps invaders can activate
pls
PLS
research hall was so good
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>>159584718
I think it has no poise as an axe. They are still weaker SS
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Anyone want to help out my low-level character bet the Champion and Doggo in the DLC? Password as always is dsg. Also on PS4
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https://youtu.be/2P1eKThZG-g

Ah now I truly understand why people say Dark Souls 2 is the best PvP in the series.
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>>159584954
You faggots can just play with yourselves and have a big circlejerk like you already do then, see ya.
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>>159584847
I found it fun. The environments are great given the rather simple art style, the combat is Souls, minus parrying. I just wish there were more characters and a bit more of the lore less "lol wizard"
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Is there some sort of god demon or deity that I can pray or offer something to, to have better luck overall? suicide is also an option.
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>>159585276
Yes. Me
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>>159585276
The Sun
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>>159585039
I bet you think Crystal Soul Spear is a good spell too
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I present to you, 2 of Dark Souls III's worst features combined: its targeting system and its attack buffer.
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>>159585202
>thinking this game is competitive
From has literally no concept of balancing, why would you take it so seriously?
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>>159585427
CSS has more in common with GCFO than vestiges.
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>>159585427
It would be if mages had other options that work with it, and it certainly isn't bad in teams.

and I never said CBV was good, but it's far better than GCFO. The best you can do with GCFO is hit someone who's dodging black flame, outside of that you're just praying your opponent panic rolls when they see your flame light up, then on top of that praying you'll read the direction they roll in, when ultimately they can just choose to not roll until the orb comes out then dodge it on reaction. Also, this >>159585529
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>>159585139
If you can wait about 30 minutes I'll help out
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Daily reminder PvP is but an afterthought is irrelevant to the souls series.
PvP will never be competitive
PvP will never be an esport

PvPers are the Souls equivalent of smashfags.
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THEY'RE ALL CALLED TRUSTY PATCHES
AND THEY ALL GESTURE ALMOST PERFECTLY IN SYNC
JESUS CHRIST
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>>159581385
>playing a game you hate for over 1100 hours
Either you liked it deep down or you need mental help.
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>>159579229
I am, yes, at least in regards to what I should search for. Could you please spoonfeed me?
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There's no point to having multiples of a spell since FP is a thing, right?
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>>159582061
yo, dsg arena is a pretty fun idea
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>>159585427
CSS is a good spell.
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>>159585748
Daily reminder you didn't gitgud
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>>159585485
I'm the one trying to have fun and everyone is just playing to absolutely win while having no enjoyment, you got it mixed up.
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>>159585729
sure
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>>159585780
if you use multiple versions of the same spell, you get a super-version of that spell. it's pretty useful
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>>159585480
>using lock on
>mashing buttons

It's your own fault really.
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>>159585754
you take the hand you're dealt, anon.

I've been summoned by Trusty Patches a few times. It's always been scary and the betrayal never came somehow.
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>>159585754
>not Trusty Patches, Patches the Hyena, and Unbreakable Patches
One job
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>>159579440
Yeh
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Honestly though, Comfy Warrior can go fuck himself using follower's and hornet parry spamming.
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>>159585925
>do this is the cathedral
>two block the room with Aldrich's monster
>host Patches seed
>three Patches with a hidden Patches the Spider
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I want to live here now
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>>159586015
He's pretty cancerous but at least he seems friendly when he posts.
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>invade snowfields
>let the millwoods do my job for me

embers for days lads
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>>159586068

So you finally found yourself a rotting bed, anon?
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>>159586015
can't parry GCFO
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>>159585276
God helps those who help themselves anon
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does anybody have that picture of vilhelms face? hes my waifu
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>see DaS3 SL1 runs
>use dragonslayer axe
>they have 700 AR/ 800AR with RTSR which is equivalent to most SL80 builds

Am I suppose to be impressed that you beat the game when you do retarded damage?
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OK EVERYONE IN THE 3v3

Recording is done.

got 6 games and alota good footage.

Going to start working on the video now, Any suggestions for the next arena video?

Brawl?

2v2?

Whatever you want.
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BREHS
What is the tryhardest build i can get for low level invasions (sl 40~)
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>>159586369

6 man brawls.
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reminder that Integra is banned from all dsg events

block them on steam, remove them from your friend list, block them on discord
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>>159586369
>>159586490
yeah brawlin
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>>159586164

Know what else is fun?

Waiting until the Host and his phantoms enter the chapel with the Corvian Knights near Vilhelm and then joining my crow-bros in battle.
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>>159586052
How can you be so top tier?
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>>159586015
I don't blame him, literally any build anyone uses is considered cancerous outside of sorcerers (except for in teams of course) and cosplays (except for when they have an offhanded caestus or anything that isn't an ultra). I'd ban hornet from arena if I could until everyone were allowed to be embered again, but being non cancerous is pretty much impossible. I honestly think most the people posting here would prefer the game to be imbalanced so that they can be non-meta hipsters.
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>decide to try out some low level pvp
>use all 5 of the cracked red eye orbs the NPC gives me
>literally every single invade was a 1v3/1v2
Do people really play the game with summons at all times? how cna that be fun
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>>159586428
SL40 Raw Dragonslayer Axe +3
Go deprived, get 20 Endurance, dump rest into VGR. So you should be 40 VGR 20 END

Knight's Ring, Hunter's Ring
Favor+2 Life+3

You should be using lightning resins. Dragon Slayer Axe is the only weapon with innate lightning that you can buff with more lightning. You'll have 200AR and with Resins you'll have 322 AR which is about equal to end game weapons at +10.

You'll be tanky as fuck due all your heath and shit on low levels with your massive damage.
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>guy comes at me with GMS on a weaponart greatshield with gundyrs halberd
>gets up close then uses WA repeatedly

What do you do against this? Backpedal and parry?
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>all that pyromancy chucking in the arena

jesus christ how horrifying
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>Having a invasion session
>Everyone I invade is either very polite, not fucking cancerous, doing something funny, or if they are cancerous they're doing it shittily enough for me to win
What a nice day! Are you having a nice time too, /dsg/?
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>>159586893
sorry mikoto but all quickstep must die
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>>159581994
I don't think they tested the bosses on anything past the base NG at all. I tried to do them on NG+++ recently and the retarded amounts of health they have makes everything incredibly fucking tedious. God forbid somebody with an INT or FTH build attempts them on anything above NG.
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>>159586169
I love this village I want to live here forever
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>>159586949
>killing manus.webm
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>>159585748
>PvP is an afterthought
Then why has PvP been in since DeS
There was literally a boss in DeS centered around PvP
Invasions have been in every Souls game
Weapons are balanced around PvP ( see: every weapon that has ever been nerfed. Only things that get nerfed are things overpowered in PvP )
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>tfw you beat a 1v3 gank all by yourself after over a half an hour of stalking them with obscuring ring as they progressed through the level, doing hit and runs, throwing firebombs, and finally catching the host in two great club R1's because he got a bit too brave
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>>159586428
>>159586830
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/111894
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>>159586179
thanks for the post Claire

t. Claire
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Here's a question

Does the parting flame recharge estus off of mobs the host kills, if I'm an invader?
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>>159586949
You know what the greatest struggle is? Coming up with a fun character idea, then not knowing if you want it to be an invasion character (so like level 80 max) or a PvP character (so in the 100 range). I want to make a Corvian character but I don't know if I'd want it to be low enough level to invade the Corvian settlement or high enough to be viable in duels.
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does anyone want an actual FC instead of these "I kill your whole team with GCFO" shenanigans going on currently
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>>159585754

Acid Surge them, anon. It's the only way. Acid Surge the fuck out of them. I don't care if it got buffed the nerfed worse than before.
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>>159586829
>invading
theres your problem. DS3 invading is dead
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>>159587048

Stalking people with the Obscuring ring is surpriingly fun. It's amusing to watch them progress through the game and then kill them when they least expect it.
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>>159587173
I'd go for low since the corvian weapons are best with sharp infusion and therefore less investment heavy.
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>>159587183
i wouldnt mind an fc
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>>159587190

It got nerfed again? I only saw the webm where it destroyed someone's shit in like 2 seconds. How long does it take, now?
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>>159586340

You have to do perfect fights if you use RTSR.
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>>159587183
Sure.
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>>159586179
>>159587183
>ever being hit by GCFO
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>>159587401
>You have to do perfect fights if you use RTSR.
That's not exclusive to SL1 anon.
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>>159587183
I'd like one more 3v3 if people are down but then an fc would be great
>>
I'm about to start up King's Field. What am I in for?
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>>159587439

>ever losing to pyro
>even being hit by any spell

/dsg/ everybody

pure SHIT
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>>159586949
I want to hug the birds
Not the knights though, fuck them
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Really? A simple gem? That's it?
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>>159587525
>always dodging every and any kind of lag
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>>159587190
I don't even use that shit for breaking equipment. I have it equipped because it's a Carthus pyromancy and my guy is Carthus themed, but I don't think I've ever succeeded in breaking anything with it. I use it as an excellent smoke screen for creating space, running from ganks and applying buffs and doing ranged attacks while they can't see me.
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>>159587525
>ever losing to pyro
>even being hit by any spell
These legitimately are things that shouldn't ever be done, unless you count being within the casting range of vow as "being hit by a spell". Quality is still the meta outside of teams, and CBV is still better than GCFO.
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alright
PC FC
SNOWY MOUNTAIN PASS
signs at the bonfire, pass is dsg
as per usual please be nice and don't make other people wait too long to be summoned, if there's 4 or more people please fight someone else instead of everyone watching 2 people fight

>>159587439
not my fault I can throw it from halfway across the arena while their back is turned
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How is the PvP?

Whats the current meta?
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>this dumb nigger Claire at snowy mountain pass again
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>>159587587
just wait until you get your sick reward from killing the crabs
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>>159587498
boredom
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>>159587684
I don't believe that you have never been hit but surge, of a combustion-type spell.
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>>159587881
>this dumb nigger Claire unable to stop posting about GCFO
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>>159587835

Pyromancy, greatswords and follower sabre
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>>159587881
You can literally go host your own if you want to complain.
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I CAN'T BEAT SIR VILHELM HE'S JUST TOO STRONG AND HE HEALS REEE
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>>159586829

That's why twinks exist to even the odds. Invading is for people who have been playing the game for literally hundreds upon hundreds of hours and have become so good and so bored with everything else, invasions are the only thing left that satisfies them. It's also a unique experience you can't find any where else and has the most depth the game can offer.

It basically involves picking a spot you want to invade and creating the perfect character to invade there, and using whatever means necessary to give you the ability to beat ganks. This generally involves going through the whole game at low SL's so you can have 15 estus while dealing with lower levels to even the estus amount, and using weapons like carthus curved sword, dragonslayer's axe, great club, and other things of that nature that allow you to be a lot stronger than most single players, but that's because you're up against the huge advantages the host has (can have up to twice the estus, has potentially 30% more HP because he's embered, can summon up to 2 phantoms or 3 with the dried finger (which could be SL800 for all you know), can use seed of the giant tree so mobs attack you, can use Way of the Blue to gank you even harder, can red soapstone summon friends to take up an invader slot if he wants to be a real dick about it, and worst of all even if you kill all of his phantoms he can potentially get back to a bonfire and just re-summon them all again with full health and a restock of estus).

It's fun when everything else in the game becomes easy and you get to really delve into just how OP you can make a character, how you can use knowledge of the layout of a level to your advantage, to deal with the worst of the worst ganks. You have to remember most of the time these people summon a bunch of phantoms like that because they suck at the game, so you can use that to your advantage. Making a stronger character and getting through the game at a low level is leveraging your game knowledge.
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>>159587924
Found the real reward, a comfy mushroom bed
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best greatsword for low level invasions?
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>>159587941
>surge
genuinely slipped my mind
>combustion/black flame
useful for covering certain options and worth having, but avoidable and able to be spaced with most weapons
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>>159588076
flamberge has high base damage iirc
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>>159587881
>>159587945
When will Scas do some Claire porn?
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>>159587498
you're in for a slow paced trek through honestly really well designed areas

and the most powerful skeletons in any from game by far
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come to the fc please
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>>159587881
>>159587945
>these dumb niggers posting about Claire again
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>>159588076
I think twin princes might have low base damage, but I might just be assuming that it has that since it's got shitty scaling that needs to be offset
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>defeat a boss
>stop playing for days at a time because I don't want to get invaded and die like a bitch

every single time
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>>159586915

I won a 1v3 at SL56 today with my Spear Chucker character so I'm pretty happy, made my fucking day in all honesty. Thanks to whoever suggested Great Club, I really needed an ultra weapon, Millwood Battle Axe simply wasn't cutting it for dealing with groups. Greataxe works pretty damn well too but I think GC fits the character better, still need to test it but I know about the 2HR2 so I'd guess it's at least on par with the Greataxe if not better because of the reach and such.
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>>159587829

Claire are you on discord?
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How to fix PvP
Remove PvP

-Make Frostbite viable, make it negate stamina regen completely, reduce duration to 8 seconds
-Add Frostbite infusion and rings.
-Have Frostbite scale with Int

-Limit Mossclumps to being able to carry 5 at a time, 3 in arena and invasions (except host so we don't affect PvE
-Make Duel/Undead Charms track.
-Change Estus health recovery and animation speed back to DaS2 levels
-Increase stamina consumption on consecutive rolls

-Implement Twinblades from Dark Souls 2
-Allow Black Flame to be spell parryable.
-Increase Poise Health on UGS weapon class start up

-Increase Axe swing speed
-Adjust Flynn's ring to be <30% rather than 12%
-Remove spell's stamina consumption, no more double dipping. Just FP instead of Mana
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>>159588134
What's the price of his commissions? If it's cheap, I'll do it.
Give me a Claire image while at it
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>>159588228

my sign is down but you wont pick it up nerd
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>>159586829
What's wrong with friends playing together?

>>159588096
I know how to beat them. I was just saying I don't believe that you have "never" been hit by them. I also regularly bait people into firewhip.
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>>159588231
t. Claire
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>>159585748
That's the way it should be. When effort is put behind PvP rather than the single player you get some of the fucked up nonsense that 2 and 3 had that were steps backwards. The games are at their best when minimal care is put on what's balanced in PvP and the PvP itself is the most fun when it's scumbags invading and doing underhanded shit to hosts who in turn become scumbags and summon phantoms for help and gang up on you. The moment this aspect of invasion is lost it all becomes stale and boring very fast, an ideal invader plays like a smarter enemy in the level and utilizes the level to their advantage rather than run up and one on one you, that shit is what the red sign is for.

It's a shame any kind of scumbaggery results in a million faggots whining about how unfair it is. Especially when it's invaders whining about how hosts being unfair and summoning and being little shits makes it too hard for them to be unfair little shits. The gameplay as a whole really suffers when an invader encounter instead of being the varied and different experience against a human player it was meant to be just becomes another duel.

The single player game taking priority over the multiplayer means more potential fucky and gimmick weapons and methods and fuck anyone who wants PvP balance to hold back the true nature of invasions.
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>>159588403
Is fire whip a good spell? I Heard it got nerfed and now that you cant aim it while unlocked.
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>>159588352
If it's dark souls related I think just asking is enough, as long as you don't ask him to puts dicks.

I mean, he did lewd of the crystal witch
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>>159588293
no
>>159588134
>>159588352
do not
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>>159588515
>no

Good, I wouldn't want to join a discordfag FC.
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>>159587230

I stock 10 black and 20 regular firebombs with me in every invasion, it's fun to spam them at people from outside of their view when they're trying to deal with mobs. Then you watch as they wait around or try to set up in different ways to "surprise" you, like hanging out in the rafters of that place with all of the invisible mobs in central irithyl, just before you get to the water. A sunbro set up there and tried to plunge attack me when I came back to look around, but I saw him first so I punished him for it. I've had people use the white branch to try to set up ganks and shit too after I've been shooting/throwing shit at them for awhile, I find it endearing, really.
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>>159588465
I just bait people into it. I don't try anything fancy with it.
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>no ring of blades
>flynns useless
>katana thrusts don't benefit from leo ring

what a shitty game
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>>159587948
>everyone forgets spear and board
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>>159588672
Can it stunlock people long enough to combo with an manually aimed GCFO? How good is the stunlock?
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>>159588287
I can't tell if I'm getting better or if everyone I'm up against is just shit today, but I'm able to do all sorts of fancy shit in invasions and duel without having to resort to R1 spam. I'm managing to kill people with running attacks, rapier backsteps and jumping attacks. I just managed to land a slick combo on some guy which involved like, dodging around his swings and shit, not just spamming R1 three times.
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>>159588890
>katana thrusts don't benefit from leo ring

Source on this?
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is everyone still in the arena or did they quit for the evening
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>>159589146
i dontwanna fite there
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asking one last time, not going to be memeing this shit.

ps4 champion and wolf password dsg
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>>159588890
>katana thrusts don't benefit from leo ring
but that's wrong
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>>159589146
>snowy mountain pass
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>it's an "every invasion is a 3v1 ganksquad" episode
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>>159589379
>plays broken pvp game
>gets upset pvp game is broken

?
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>>159588982
Don't know. I use it as a finisher. I don't like risking it unless I know it can kill. Plus, I am more likely to roll away rather than trying to combo. I play fairly passively.
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>>159571273
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>>159589146
never mind, 3 people showed up at once
this sort of thing is a little hard to see so try to avoid that though
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>>159583021
No not anymore I've stopped invading almost entirely. It's a waste of time. If I want PvP I've got fightclub or the arena. I'm sick and tired of the bad spawns, the prioritized invasions with summons, and the way you can get locked out of areas entirely both in the DLC and the base game.
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want to cosplay as pursuer
what use besides curse warden shield.
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>>159589379

>he isn't twinking just so he can destroy 1v3s & 1v4s
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>>159585858
Still need help with doggo?
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interesting
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>>159587230
I wish I knew this pleasure again but every invasion I do now is a host with 2 high level phantoms sitting at a bonfire, I try to force them to come out but they never do.
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>>159589556
cathedral knight greatsword
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>>159589214
i got you senpai
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Either play 1v3s or be a twink
It's just like the fucking election, either pick cancer who will fuck everyone who isn't a white man over or pick corruption who will plunge us into war with russia

im going to do the best option and choose to just not play online anymore
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>>159589608
yes
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>>159589556
Your imagination.
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>>159588131
>>159588263
what about the raw drakeblood it isnt good even if i use a resin on it?
and the onyx blade? its too shit at low level?
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>>159589618
wrong pic
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>>159588019
This is exactly why I've always played lowbie pvp.
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>>159589714
Putting my sign at bottom of the painting bonfire
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>>159589840
>Character never opens mouth
>Fully modelled tongue and teeth
Eh?
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>>159589813
onyx is fine at low level, especially if you're a pyro
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>>159576706
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>>159589904
well somebody helped

Thank you Azula

You were really really really strong
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Is the Twin Princes greatsword any good with the GS buffs?
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>>159589906
Strange, right? She's rather... toothy.

Also there's a strange moving organ between her legs with some purple things on it (like veins or bruises).
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What prompts Eygon to appear in Firelink? Anyone know?
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>>159590280
np homie
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>>159590280
Sorry i couldn't help dude, had to go out for a bit.
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I'm in the mood to cleanse the bastard's curse and as such I am going to make an Evangelist character with the robe and hat and spiked mace, and I am going to use Dorhys's Gnawing and possibly Sacred Flame if I can make room for pyromancy in my build.

Any advice on how I should build this? Should I go more into strength for the mace, or more into faith/int with a chaos enchant for the magic?
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for those fighting mages who run the whole fight. Have 10 fai and get the faith ring. use med heal when they run away
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>>159590338
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>>159590328
it's comfortable, but you're probably better off with a clay and an offhand crossbow
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>>159590338
THAT'S NOT A LOLI!
IT'S A HORSECOCK!

I TOLD YOU GUYS TO TRUST THE NUN!
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>>159590328
the only thing is has goin for it is the sacred light wa
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The poise chart that gets floated around here tells me that I need around 25 poise to poise through medium weapons with a 2H Hammer R1 however this poise calculator tells me I need 28, which one is correct?
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>>159590338
>a strange moving organ between her legs with some purple things on it (like veins or bruises).
It's a t-tail.
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I'M SO FUCKING TIRED OF THESE FUCKING HITBOXES
MY FUCKING RAPIER MISSES SOMEONE WHO DUCKED SLIGHTLY
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT BALANCED
Fuck this bullshit thrust weapon basically only weapons with sweeping attacks are viable
It's not even lag, they were fully in range. It's these fucking retarded hitboxes. Needlessly precise for some weapons, absolutely huge and retarded for others.
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Welp I fugged up with CE and accidentally did something I shouldn't have, deleted my save and was offline so i'm good. Gotta start fresh though. Not gonna mess with CE anymore. Fun build idea? Something that isn't qaulity?
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>no gesture rewards for arena
>an excuse to stuff every single one in game and give a reason to play it
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>>159571273
Mines in
yes
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>>159590725
Stop playing PvP and the stress will go away.
Why do you continuie playing the worst part of the soul series? You know it's never going to be good, you know its never going to be enjoyable, it's going to be filled with tryhard metafags, blatant game imbalances and shitty invader penalties.
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>>159588035
>mushroom
They're fly egg sacs. Maggots hatch and feed on dying corvians.
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>>159590501
>>159590589
>>159590645
Worry not, it was just a piece of her clothes.
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>>159577202
How?
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>>159590918
PvP is the part of the game that keeps you coming back. You can only replay the PvE so many times; this isn't BB (which has infinite replayability).
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>>159591124
on ps4 you can just block them and you won't match against them again
not sure if the same applies on steam
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>>159591230
You started off subtle and then went full retard at the end and threw in the entire fishing pole.
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is SL 16 low enough to invade at the highwall?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/111914
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>>159571273
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>>159590084
those bugs are jerks
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>>159588998

Honestly as I've been invading more and more I just try to keep a positive attitude and make every gank a learning experience. If they wind up being really good and kicking my ass I at least try to learn something from it each time, analyze why I got my ass kicked, what I could have done different, maybe how I could change my build or equipment to handle a similar situation in the future. Maybe learn more about a particular area of the map I didn't really know a lot about before, so next time I'm more prepared on what could possibly happen if I'm in that place again, what my escape routes are, what enemies are around, etc.

Then on some level I have other ways of considering invasions a "win", like if I use all of my FP chucking spears or if I kill at least 1 phantom before I die or I throw all of my firebombs or if I stay in the same group's world for X amount of time. I still need to figure out how to git gud with the millwood greatbow, the one time it worked was when I caught a group fighting the fire witch brigade in central irithyll and I got a pretty good distance away up the stairs, so I could catch them with arrows while they were busy fighting. All of the explosions going off all over the place and invisible knife guys coming at them, they didn't realize I was hitting them for 250-300 damage a pop from the top of the hill, then I came in with my javelin to finish them off.

You start with small victories and find a foundation you can build upon I'd say. Like start with just trying to kill at least 1 phantom every invasion, if you do that you win. Or always being able to kill 1v1 hosts. Then once you can do that consistently, move up to 1v2 at the same time, and so on and so forth. Or like "I died but I led them through most of the mobs in the level while surviving and threw 30 firebombs at them before dying", shit like that is fun as fuck even if you lose. With backup saves you don't lose anything, gotta remember the point is fun.
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>>159591496
Look at starting SL for all the classes, add +10 to them, and you can invade them.
10 7 1 9 9 8 8 6 5 7
10 is the lowest you can invade Deprived players who didn't level
20 is the lowest you can invade Assassin players

SL16 will let you invade everyone except for Thief and Deprived characters who hasn't leveled yet.
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>the city of souls netcode

Swear you have to be genuinely autistic to enjoy this shit
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>Neck Swipe has more Poise Health than UGS weapon class

Uhhh, From?
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>>159590464
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>>159591805
Downwards range is just -10%
Deprived can't be invaded if you're not SL1
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>>159592041
>Onikiri WA has more poise health than 10 Havels combined

umm, soulstards????
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So why are Pyros considered OP?

Last I played all I wanted to play was a Pyro but aside from the odd Sacred Flame/Witch's Locks/Yuria Hat fellow repping Pyro, Quality reined supreme.

I assume most people just spam Black Flame and Black Serpent, no?
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>>159592041
>slow WA has more poise than r1
No shit
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What do? Just to stay at 120

3 more Att?
More INT (I'm always carrying the +5 ring anyway)
Or just more VIT just for fashion?

Also what's the best Straight sword and Halberd for this build? Want to get one of each weapon group if possible before NG+ just to rp for fun
And maybe a good shield
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Can you still get consistent invasions in early areas of the game?

I'm about to do a NG playthrough because I just got the DLC but never finished the game, I really enjoyed invading people in Undead Settlement and the swamp and whatnot when I played last.
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>>159592208
Black Flame + Parting Flame =
700 Damage from Black Flame
30% of Black Flame from Parting Flame attack so 210 Damage

Can be combo'd into R1 from a Dark Thrall Axe for 270

Black Flame has almost infinite poise so you get a 1270 damage trade from anyone who dares to R1 you.
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>>159592208
because it lets mouth breathers win without having to think
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fc where?
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>>159592315
Whats the 20 Str for?
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>>159592542
Snow Mountain Pass bonfire.
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>>159571273
Here you go
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>>159591230
No, BB was way too reliant on typical souls gameplay to have infinite replayability
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>>159592315
Get more INT and use the ring for something more important like life ring. You might want to get havel so you can have a secondary weapon.
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Caster balance would be perfect if the values were the same but ATT was removed and slots and focus made into a function of INT/FTH
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Next souls game is going to be switch exclusive
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stop summoning these pyros and sorcs to the fightclub

jesus fucking CHRIST
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>>159592752
DELTE DIS! bretty gud mang
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What's the point of giving her such a cute face
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>>159591496
beats me
replace favor with sage
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>>159592896
It's going to be PS4 exclusive again and PCucks will be FORCED to give sony their shekels
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>>159592590
Murakumo and to add some damage to my weapons, though I always go 2 handed with it, in all honesty I was thinking of re-stating with a tongue before NG+ just to lower to the min requirements

But dunno how affected the damage would be, I completely confortable right now, have yet to try Crystal weapon buff in anything to compare damages

>>159592818
Okay then, INT it is

>>159592896
I would love a Fire Emblem or Metroid colaboration game
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>>159592661
>snow mountain pass

fucking why though. claire pls.
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>>159592860
then it would be even easier for casters to use whatever weapons they want due to less overall stat investment
bad idea
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So, the Greataxe seems to stunlock for a true combo of R1 R1, right? My question is, does the Great Club do the same? If you hit them with the R1 you are guaranteed to hit with the second R1?
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Who's the one hating magic users?
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>>159593074
No, they'd just get end that they need. You could get weapon by paying a stat price.
It'd do nothing to punish overleveled shitters, of course
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>>159571273
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>>159592860
If anything, casting speed should be tied to attunement instead of dex.
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>>159592987
Ban Integra already
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>>159593284
No point in that because it would make sage ring useless.
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>>159571273
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>>159591397
The fuck you on about?

>>159592813
It has randomly generated dungeons so you can always find something new to do.
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>when the other red attacks you instead of the gank for some fucking reason because he's an asshole, and you're able to kill him with a parry and a roll catch, and get a free estus so you can continue fighting the gank

Get fucked, prick. Damn that felt good, like he was trying to backstab me and shit. Did he want another estus that badly instead of another entire invader to even the odds? Or was he just being a dick? I'll never understand people like that. Just glad I'm to the point now in skill where I can do something like that when there's a host and phantoms trying to kill me at the same time too.
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>>159593284
casting speed shouldn't even be a thing, I'd rather it be max by default considering all the other mandatory rings casters have
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>>159593284
Not really.
You need 50 dex currently.
There's no point ever going after 30 att for any caster given how bad the returns are.
Nothing would change, except +2 sage wouldn't be a must and you'd use +0
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Recommended stat build for the Greataxe?

Dunno if I should just go full strength or maybe put an element on it and put a shit ton into health or something.
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>>159593523
Casters are balanced out by taking up so many ring slots so they can't get other shit like Favor or Life or whatever without either sacrificing damage or cast speed or slots.
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>>159593619
Yeah but having three required rings is a stretch
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>>159593619
What are melee builds sacrifying? Because with how you can count on your hands how many spells are good they aren't missing much
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>>159593598
66 STR and min. dex. 44 vig and put the rest in end.
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>>159571273
The best I can do
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>>159593454
Chalice dungeons use setpieces rather than being truly randomized. The idea was nice, the execution was rather lacking.
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>keeping hearing about Havel smashing undead into paste in fc's
>show up to fc expecting to face The Rock himself
>it's just skim-ply clad fc

There are spellcasters here Havel, why aren't you here doing your job?
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>>159593598
66 str then replace the greataxe with gundys halberd
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>>159593701
Not really, most casters will do as much damage as UGS users with the ring investment while having more range.
The only difference is your attacks cost FP

>>159593748
Melee builds are sacrificing not having 6 spell slots and 40/40 damage pyromancies just like casters are sacrificing not having fap ring with max AR great clubs with under 70% equip or whatever.
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So I wanna play through the whole game with just a bow. Anyone have any ideas for what class I should go and how I should do this?
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>>159593598
>>159593754
If you have your mind set on a certain level of end or have any left over, put some on vit to get better armor. Flat defense will matter when you trade with small weapons or try to carry a fast weapon yourself and offhand your greataxe. Try to look good if possible.
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>>159593764
Are you ok?
>>
oh look

FC is infested with pyro and sorc
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>>159593887
sorry dimitri but today is mage day for whatever reason
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40 vig or 50 vig?
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>>159594110
I tried joining but no one summoned me after 15 min of waiting
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How do I make the most out of Crow Talons? I want to cut shit up
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>>159594229
You are banned
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I'm trying to make a God Emperor Donaldo Trump build, but not sure how to build him. Should I go str/fth? I want to use Havel shield because wall memes
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>>159594229
Mention your name if you're not getting summoned, there's probably lots of people.
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>>159593956
>but casters are comparable to UGS users
>they're on par with this completely terrible weapon class, I don't see what the deal is

Look, even if we aren't talking about casters vs others, offensive spells are typically worse than non-scaling ones, and they're the ones that require rings. Making fewer rings nessecary helps bring them up to speed with things like regen.
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>>159594284
Ive never used a cheat engine and ive only been in 2 fcs for ds3 ever.
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All these new spellcasters and not one Fth caster. What a shame.
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what would twink arena matches be like anyway?
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>>159594589
Not even fashionable, nice health buddy. My twink will happily one shot you
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>not high wall
FREEDAH BRING FLEEL PLEES
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>>159594710
it was as much as I could get with onyx
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>>159594395
I honestly can't think of any rings I would rather be wearing that I don't already have
other than throwaway stuff like untrue rings or reverse/skull/whatever
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>>159594837
t. clarie
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God I hate Friede 2nd phase so much. It's AoE bullshit everywhere
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>Want to help people with Darkmoon Blades
>past 4 days, pretty much in 20 hours of just leaving the game open only got summoned 3 times, 2 of which the host was already dead by the time I was being summoned
>fuck this
>Try Aldritch faithful just for fun
>summoned every 3 seconds
Why doesn't FROM just change the way it works, no one ever had the blu sentinels covenant equipped
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>>159594319
if theres lots ill wait my turn
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>>159594203
44 is as high as you should ever go
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>>159595014
I'm literally not seeing your sign if you haven't already been summoned
make sure you set the pass and it's at the bonfire
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>>159594837
do you not realize how close you are to having a lightroll?
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>>159595104
I couldn't care less, really
not gonna bother investing in VIT where I can't use it better elsewhere and if I get rollcaught I deserve it considering how easy it is for me to escape most situations and since I'm supposed to be keeping people at midrange anyway
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>>159595082
most hosts are retarded and don't know how to cycle through people in an efficient manner

especially claire
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It's right here you dumb bitch why do I have to fight a boss for you to see it
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>>159595082
everything ok on my end guess im just not meant to play
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>>159595247
>"I don't see how you could improve upon this at all"
>like this
>"yeah why make my build good anyway"
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>>159594572

No, you don't get it. You are banned.
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>>159595347
yeah I'm sure it really takes a discerning eye and good memory to cycle through the single sign showing up at a time
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>>159594035
It ended as well as you expect
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>>159595541
how/why
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>>159595430
are you the dude whose sign is a co-op sign

use red soapstone instead, you big dum-dum
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>>159595567
you'd be surprised
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>bosses that make themselves impossible to lock on until a very specific frame after an attack

fuck this retarded shit always breaks my concentration
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>>159595502
Lightroll is a literal meme and getting down another 10% takes a lot more VIT than you would think
If it was like 31%, sure, but otherwise he's right
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>>159595502
he was talking about rings
if I wanted I could switch back to fire keeper robe and be under 30% but I like how vilhelm's looks
no reason for me to switch off darkmoon for havel's or favor just to lose 2 spell slots in return for a better roll
there's plenty of ways to improve my build, like having an actual weapon, but I like keeping the theme rather than go for what will make my build unbeatable
>>
>>159595623

Integra is banned for being a "pyro" that leveled to 140 so he can pump up his strength and dexterity to use weapons

Aka cheater
>>
john you dumbo I cannot believe you sat there with a white soap this entire time
>>
I was trying to think a way to make Blackfire Friede a good boss and post here.

It's impossible. It's so shit it's impossible to fix.
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>>159595793
>a lot more VIT
or you could change your armor slightly

and even if he did use that armor, if he didn't have three mandatory rings, he'd only need to go to 15 vit with favor and havels, and he'd save five levels on both vigor and endurance from favor, making it only a net five SL of investment to keep the fashion.
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>>159595851
>there's plenty of ways to improve my build, like having an actual weapon, but I like keeping the theme rather than go for what will make my build unbeatable
>but I still like talking about meta and viability anyway
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>>159596174
>change your armor
Fashion is inviolate, don't even joke
>if he didn't have three mandatory rings
Irrelevant because magecucks always do
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>>159595975
>Claire literally bullying and berating a noob that just wanted to have fun
what a bitch
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>>159596294
>Irrelevant because magecucks always do
keep up with the conversation anon, see: >>159593701/>>159594395
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>>159595975
why not just summon a white anyway, he'd still be able to fight everyone
>>
>Invade a group of Ultralag sword wielding fags
So these are the guys you are alwasy talking about right?
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>>159571273
yeehaw
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>>159596343
remove claire
claire 2.0 is the thread waifu now
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>>159596457
Nice Olive cosplay
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>>159595374
Your flame is too small, she needs the Papa Ariandel's flame.
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>that clipping
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Pyromancy shouldn't scale with Int and Faith, that makes no sense. Int+Faith are Dark Miracles and Dark Sorceries.

In japanese, Pyromancy is literally "Hexes", as in they are a primitive form of magic, like vodoo or swamp magic, shit like this. Pyromancy should scale with attunement alone and be a weaker form of magic but very accessible (for being low investment).

Dark pyromancies could scale with attunement and luck, being a lesser form of Dark Miracles/Dark Sorceries.

Builds for caster should look similar to this:

Sorcerer: 30att/60int
Miracles: 30att/60fai
Dark Sorcerer: 30att/20fai/40int
Dark Miracles: 30att/20int/40fai
Pyromancer: 60att
Dark Pyromancer: 40att/40luck
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>>159596290
I could just as easily have a dark infused dex weapon or onyx blade or whatnot for not much more stat investment while losing practically nothing aside from maybe a couple INT/FAI points to put into the base STR/DEX for the weapon
what are you even trying to argue about
>>
>>159596714
>some sets have their sleeves permanently rolled up for no reason
Fucking, why.
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>>159596834
>60 att
what
I'm all for making fewer mandatory rings, especially things like sage which go to ++, but that's just fucking goofy
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>>159596559
thanks, cutie. it takes talent to be myself.
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>>159596834
>no archdrake cult robes in 3
ALL I WANT IS SOME COMFY PAJAMAS
>>
>>159596850
>what are you even trying to argue about
I was having a discussion about rings in regards to meta, and you personally decided to butt in and say "well my deliberately subpar build doesn't need any improvements," of your own volition. Your problem, not mine.
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>>159596935
Forgot to mention:
They should buff damage of all forms of magic to be equal as if a character was wearing all rings, then make the rings reduce FP cost.
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FC's closed down now, thanks to everyone for coming and hopefully I don't lose to whoever this last person is
I hate being unembered
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>>159596026
Friede is a Ludwig-tier boss fight, one of the best in the entire series.
>>
So what, you supposedly shouldn't even bother investing in INT for Friede's Scythe???

I want to make great use of the dual scythe form and its running frost cast for setups and area denial/trapping, though... It looks like the most fun you can have in this game.

But this isn't worth it???

Every time I see something about Dark Souls 3 that makes me think it might actually be fun to play I become quickly disheartened by reality. Feels so fucking bad, man.
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>>159596026
she has cute feet
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>>159597049
List at least 3 rings a caster absolutely must have that aren't damage based or sage ring.
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>>159597098
Thanks for hosting.
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>>159597172
The main scythe scales purely off dex, the second scythe scales purely off int
at SL120 or whatever you can fit in enough points to invest in INT a bit for extra damage
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>>159596834
>we will never have spices back to actually make stuff like Archdeacon Staff/Crystal Chime/Man-Grub Staff viable
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>>159597098
thanks for the host and gifts!
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>>159597170
she has one good phase which is 3, the rest is just padding. even 3 is easy when you know what her incredibly long wind up attacks are
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>>159597245
>absolutely must have
Try "could benefit from"
there's nothing anything in this game "needs" if you take that word in its most literal form
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works for me
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>>159597483
Then "could benefit from."
With casters you're not really going to benefit as much as weapon users from most rings unless you use things like chloranthy (which is pointless) or red tearstone for hyper mode shenanigans.
I honestly can't imagine why casters would need anything other than the damage rings+sage, leaving you one slot free for whatever you want but generally filled by attunement rings.
>>
Do you think we'll get any Dark related content that is actually cool and viable with the next DLC?
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>>159595975
to be fair I did have my red sign down for a bit and then i forgot to switch my white back to red after doin co op
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>>159597793
>cool
>viable
Pick one
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Ideally, stats should be like this:

VIG
+HP
+poise

END
+Stamina
+equip load

STR
+StrengthScaling
+equip load
+poise

DEX
+DexteiryScaling
+bleed/poison dmg
-fall damage

INT
+MagicScaling
+FP
+att slots
+cast speed

FAI
+MiracleScaling
+FP
+att slots
+cast speed
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>>159597754
>I honestly can't imagine why casters would need
it isn't as though quality builds need life, favor, SPR, hornet, leo, chloranthy, or literally any of the rings they have
but they have them and benefit from them
you have no argument
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How disappointing
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>>159597902
ideally vig should be removed since its just a redundant stat overlapping with armor
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So I started playing DaSII recently after having bought it during a sale a few months back. I have a few comments.

>Why is parrying so fucked up compared to DaS?
>Do the bosses get good at some point? I beat the Last Giant and the Dragonrider in one go each by just circlestrafing with the occasional R1 attack.
>Is it just me or are the turtle knights a huge challenge compared to their reward? Black Knights in DaS always guarded something good but these guys are just strewn about fucking everywhere.
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>>159598114
there are a couple of good bosses but they are DLC/late game
for the most part DS2 bosses are just filler though
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>>159598071
We need vig so a guy who invested in magic and dex is squishy, for example.

What is redundant is having vig AND vit.
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>>159591897
>he doesn't roll when spells are near him even if they appear they will not touch you

should of learned by now nerdio, roll when shit is flying at you in a souls game no matter what, better safe than sorry.
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>>159597194
Prove it.

Any art of her feet yet?
>>
>>159598114
>Do the bosses get good at some point? I beat the Last Giant and the Dragonrider in one go each by just circlestrafing with the occasional R1 attack
There are a few good ones in the DLCs near the end of the game. The rest are shit.
>>
>>159598216
>What is redundant is having vig AND vit.
...that's what I was getting at? just don't give casters the ability to equip a bunch of armor. Casters level to equip spells, others level to carry weight. Casters will still end up being squishier.
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through looking up netcode i found this

https://youtu.be/1QWWCSx3r1s

this is the kind of bullshit that laggy cunts get away with. dont even need to hit people and still deal damage. parry like normal because the game is pitying your shitty connection.

T-T i want some pity hit detection. i want phantom range and pity parrys.
but i have fiber internet.... so i cant get lag benefits. if i miss, they dont get hurt. even if i parry with perfect timing it doesnt work. i backstab them and they walk away. why wont they just Upload their positions to me....all this extra bandwidth laying around. WOE is me.
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>>159598114

>Why is parrying so fucked up compared to DaS?

>Wah, why can't I learn parry timings for this new game! I wanna parry spamming like in Dark Souls I!

>Do the bosses get good at some point?

The bosses are just as good, if not better than what III has to offer.

>Is it just me or are the turtle knights a huge challenge compared to their reward?
>Black Knights in DaS always guarded something good...

You just want a cheap cheesy weapon like the BKH to carry your ass through the game because you can't be assed to learn it.
>>
>>159597902
>END
>+Stamina
>+equip load
No, that just enables more poisestacking katanafags.
Leave additional equip load reserved for STR, they need that.
>DEX
>status effect dmg
I disagree, I think making luck the dedicated condition stat was a good idea, just nerf rouge/rotten pine and enhance the bleed/poison damage scaling from luck. Also include frostbite there.
stop posting these pictures, i made the original mspaint one and it hurts ;_;
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>>159598114
>Why is parrying so fucked up compared to DaS?
What you meant to say was "why isn't parrying piss-easy any more, having to pay attention and actually predict things is too hard ;___;"
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>>159598437
>T-T
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>>159598437
hi scott
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>>159598485
Stop denying the legend you've created
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>>159598114
>>Why is parrying so fucked up compared to DaS?
Parrying in DaS2 is equipment based, use the buckler.
>>Do the bosses get good at some point? I beat the Last Giant and the Dragonrider in one go each by just circlestrafing with the occasional R1 attack.
There are some interesting ones, not going to spoil it though.
>>Is it just me or are the turtle knights a huge challenge compared to their reward? Black Knights in DaS always guarded something good but these guys are just strewn about fucking everywhere.
Never thought about it really, the turtles are really weak to strike damage.
>>
wtf that axe has bs range
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>>159598603
Thank you Archdrake
>>
>>159598437
>a 300 ms ping it's really not that bad
what
but yeah, I'll have people roll behind my blackflame casts and still get hit
>>
>>159598010
GRAVITY OP
>>
>>159598603
Thank you archdrake
>>
Weapon users:
>Multiple weapons possible to equip, wide variety available as long as you have enough invested into STR/DEX
>Rings make builds more varied, no necessary rings but at the same time rings aren't as strong in how they affect the build itself
>spell viability is limited to lower investment ones or non-stat required spells, generally only have 2 attunement slots, spell damage much lower without ring/stat investment as well
Casters:
>Multiple spells possible to equip, wide variety available for each class as long as you have enough invested into INT/FAI
>2 Rings are required use, 1 more is also required if you have no DEX, 1 totally free
>weapon viability is limited to lower investment ones, most cannot benefit from anything other than magic/lightning/chaos/dark infusion without significant AR loss compared to weapon user, generally lower END compared to weapon user as well

You cannot make immediate comparisons between these build types unless you use hybrid builds as an example.
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>>159598603
thank you archdrake
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Is Sacred Flame viable at all? Because it's the coolest thing in the game and I would make a Pyromancer just to be able to use it.

Also how does the Parting Flame interact with Sacred Flame?
>>
Posting ending in 7 will define what I'll fap to tonight
Only dark souls related content allowed
>>
What's the best early game weapon to fight dancer with? Should I just stick with the bandit knife for the bleed or is a raw mail breaker a better idea?
>>
>>159599174
Blightown giants
>>
>>159599174

Gaping Dragon.
>>
>>159599174
Unbreakable Patches
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>>159599182
Bandit Knife, you want the bleed since it dramatically shortens the fight, so its less time you'll have to spend avoiding oneshots.
>>
>>159599182
Dark Hand is the best for fighting dancer. Bleed need carthus rogue to work well and you can't get it until catacombs.
>>
>>159599174
demons raping other demons and the snake soldiers.
>>
>>159598443
Oh, you. Ds2fags are like the juggalos of /dsg/. They're loud and nobody takes them seriously but themselves.
>>
>>159599227
Where's the picture

I'm supposed to fap to fucking text?!
>>
ONE JOB
>>
>>159599174
Eygon
>>
>>159598601
who is scoot.

im tierqueer.
>>
>>159599385
Yes
Their huge, throbing undead cocks, black goo running down their lengh and the strong smell of musk and smegma coming from their unwashed foreskin
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>>159599089
>Is Sacred Flame viable at all?
I've been using it today in the arena and FCs and I've managed to get it to connect a fair few times, and it normally does over half their health in damage so it's not bad if you land it, which you can get to doing semi-semi-reliably after a while, depending
of course it's pretty bad if you miscast it 'cause the animation's pretty long but as long as you're not a total idiot like me you'll be okay
it really is the most satisfying thing to use though when you connect with it
it depends on the slots you have and the spells you need, really
as long as you have serpent, flame, vestiges/chaos orb, and surge, if you've got a slot to spare after that I'd say it's worth it unless you really wanna use bursting instead
which is probably better but hey ho

>Also how does the Parting Flame interact with Sacred Flame?
they do good together
I'm not sure how much of a damage increase it is but it definitely is one
>>
>>159599383

And III fans are the abused white trash housewives that love Miazacki shittng on them
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>Flail
>Fl ail
>Fl*uffy T*ail

Coincidence?
When father Lloyd is asking you for his flail, he actually wants you to bring him Friede's "tail", if you know what I mean.
>>
>>159599984
>fasher
Oh Krekk0v, you're so entertaining
>>
>>159599719
Hate to break it to you but comfy is a moron and you're not going to land it unless people are panic-rolling INTO you (like in the other poster's webm) or trying to dash attack after you've already casted it.
You're better off having something like boulder heave for an aoe knockdown that's harder to avoid.
>>
>>159599736
My favorites are des, ds1 and Bloodborne.

I do love ds3 and I even like ds2, but you're giving it entirely too much credit especially where bosses and rewards for effort and exploration are concerned.
>>
>>159599736
As a white trash housewife that loves Miazaky poop I can confirm this.
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>>159600095
I managed to land it on at least one other guy who isn't comfy
you're probably right though and I've fallen for my own memes
>>
>>159599984
>browsing dsg in the middle of a timed bio quiz
>friede art gets posted
I mean, maybe I can squeeze one out real quick?
>>
>>159599719
>tfw sacred flame doesn't throw people
>tfw can't blast someone off the top pillar with it for maximum btfo
>>
>>159600095
Comfy is indeed shit and pulls out meta weapons when he's under pressure
>>
>>159600356
>>browsing dsg in the middle of a timed bio quiz
Finish your quiz then come back
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>>159600282
imo if you don't get use out of a spell more than once in a blue moon then it's easily replaced by more versatile ones
that's why my setup is
great chaos fire orb
bursting fireball
fire surge
floating chaos
black serpent
black flame
but in the end it's really up to what spells you wanna use
>>
>>159600356
Finish your quiz anon, school is important
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FASHION
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>>159600356
http://krekk0v.tumblr.com/post/152824558857/this-is-why-she-wants-to-kill-you-ashen-fucks-desu

This will still be here when you finish your quiz
>>
>>159600718
where
>>
>>159600718
follower helm goes better with pontiff chest

makes you maximum aerodynamic
>>
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SOULS
>>
>>159600718
>>159600859
WHAT IS THAT ARMOR
>>
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Fake powerstanced sabers or gotthards?
Any suggestion for shirt?
>>
>>159600947
Follower helm, Fire witch armor/gloves, silver knight leggings.

I get that the follower helm kinda makes me look like a dumb bullet but I just really liked the way the hair looked on my face.
>>
>>159600732
this dude knows whats up
http://krekk0v.tumblr.com/post/152720723557/how-to-git-gud-at-dark-souls
>>
Can strong attacks be parried?
I know leaping attacks and UGS R1s cannot, but is there a full list of unpalatable attacks?
>>
>>159600952
Gotthards with twin blades offhand for the 4 swords/parry tool.
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>>159601227
Unparriable, oops.
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>>159601149
>scas
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>>159600652
when do you use floating chaos and what for? I gave it a couple duel runs but I never really saw an opening after the start, and at the start it did nothing worthwhile
>>
>>159601227
Whips can't
2H ultra standing attacks can't
Some WAs can't

Everything else can
>>
>>159601349
Yes they can. Ultra weapons 2handed, the knives from the crow quills, and lmao 2scythe weapon skills cannot be parried off the top of my head.
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How do I get gud with gotthards?
I want to use the weapon full moveset and avoid the rolling L1 because it looks silly.
>>
Firelink is in a painted world
>>
>>159601227
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4hrzmy/guide_to_parryable_and_unparryable_weapons/
Yeah yeah >reddit
>>
>>159601420
floating is independent of other spells so with it out I'm able to force them to roll or run out of its range
gives me time to sip ash or set up other spells to roll catch or whatever
it's a defensive offense of sorts
it will also stagger people that try to combo you while it's out
>>
>>159601612
we're all in a painted world

multiverse baby, with a broken sense of time
>>
>>159601440
>>159601528
>>159601614
Thank you.
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Daily reminder that Dark Souls will never have a Greatsword this good looking.
>>
Can someone who's really good with a sabre/CCS duel me so I can get good at fighting them?
>>
New thread, pardon my shilling
>>159602136
>>159602136
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>>159600718
LEG COLOR
NOT MATCHING CHEST COLOR
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>>159601608
>gotthards
>I don't want to use the one reason to use this weapon
>>
>>159602334
Follower Shield is so good looking
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