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''We were younger'' Edition

Previous Thread: >>159235485

Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn hella gay and rewind time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.

>Official Website:
http://lifeisstrange.com

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>/lisg/ sings:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pQJgF3NToUg
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>Strawpolls:
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http://strawpoll.me/11332383
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http://strawpoll.me/11407677
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Max is best.
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>>159521907
I know I've seen this edition somewhere before..
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goodnight lisg
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BFFs, Pirates, Partners in Time & Crime & In Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.

One year ago for us and a little over three for them. Amongst the tragedy, fear, and doubt they found bravery, inspiration, and happiness in each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe358vPzjSI
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Max is #1
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Kate is #1
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Chloe is #1
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Molli is #1
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>>159526167
Yes she is.
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>>159524178
>>159524662
>>159524979
Who isn't ?
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>>159527072
Guess.
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>>159527639
Rude!
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>>159528298
Yes she is.
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>>159529579
She can be nice too though!

C- Can you?
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Morning /lisg/
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>>159529902
I dunno anon. The only time she seemed "nice" is when she was afraid for her life.
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>>159522621
Good night.

>>159530434
Good morning.

>>159531246
Is that so?

I found it pretty nice when she apologized to Max and told her she deserved better. Or when she admitted to her insecurities and said Max is cool. Or when she believed her Nathan was dangerous and told her to watch out and call her if she needs anything. Or when she sent Kate an apology and get-well letter.

But maybe you didn't see much of that because you decided Max wouldn't be nice to her.
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Pricefield is #1
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Max is a good person!
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>>159533123
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>>159533102
Now and forever
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Max is a rockstar!
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>>159535219
And she's hella ready for the mosh pit, shaka brah!
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>>159535219
She always is shown with a Les Paul. I think it fits though.
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>>159535219
>>159535364
They're gonna cause the mosh pit!
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>>159535748
A Hannah and Ashly duet would be the most touching thing. One sentimental song and a rawk out one.

I think Hannah on some recent Blackwell Podcast thing has actually said she would cover a more hard-rock-y song I forget the name of. But so maybe we'll at least get some of that at some point.
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>>159536298
I would love to hear that. I know Ashly can rawk out and show tons of emotion in songs (That one chiptune cover, the musical she was in, etc.), but I've only hear Hannah sing softly. It would be interesting to hear her try that.
A Glass Walls or Pianofire Duet would be perfect for them.
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Love this. Maybe I'll make it my homescreen.
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Friendly reminder there is a creepy anon that wants to kidnap Hannah and Max and force them to sing for their own sick pleasure.
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>>159539037
Hey, I never said this at all!
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>>159539037
Logistically speaking, I think you could probably grab one or the other. Grabbing both would be exponentially more difficult.

It's sick and noone should do it, but I'm simply saying I don't think it is something the average autist could achieve. I draw some comfort from this.
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Sunday, Lazy Sunday!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgyVvoODWGA
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>>159541010
That would be like being Jefferson. And nobody here wants to be that mentally insane or artistically worthless.
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>>159542243
I might argue the artistic worth, but I agree it's disqualified by the insanity and being a dick.
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>>159542487
Personally, I don't see any artistic appeal in his work. I really don't.
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>>159542487
For what Jefferson was doing he could have used mannequins.
They are just as motionless and expressionless as a drugged model. Jefferson said he wanted to capture a moment of panic and loss of innocence (Which in class he called "bullshit" when talking about the phrase "Humanity is tortured") but the model wouldn't know to be scared.
They are drugged out of their mind and the only time Jefferson gets the fear and panic he is looking for is when he or Nathan fuck up and don't drug the subject enough.
You cannot call yourself a great artist when you contradict yourself and only achieve what you want when you mess up.
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>>159543752
>Jefferson said he wanted to capture a moment of panic and loss of innocence... but the model wouldn't know to be scared.
I think that last part is where you are running into the contradiction. He rants about how the drugged model doesn't know 'to pose' and displays no vanity or something like that, not that they aren't scared or entering a moment of panic.
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>>159543752
>>159544249
I think you could have found willing models and achieved the same photos, but he took it beyond what the photo looked like and wanted it to be a statement. A fucked up statement. This is what makes him an evil maniac. This is truly art gone too far.
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>>159544249
Other anon, but I agree that Jefferson's stuff doesn't even work as what he'd set out for it to. He says he wants to capture loss of innocence, and specifically a transitionary moment. But his subjects are unconscious. They are not innocent and do not lose any innocence either. Because they are simply not there. He does not capture "them" at all.

Let alone the artificiality of his entire setup. He says models are unauthentic. Well, now he is. Rendering his art arguably even more vain. His obsession is masturbatory, not artistically valuable.
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>>159544795
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140800778006/lets-talk-about-hitler
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>>159545041
As a staged natural shot or a *willing* posed shot, it could indeed be very nice. Beautiful even. Void of color, capturing true emotion and vulnerability. As long as it comes from a place of trust such as if Max photographed Chloe laying down.
But the method in which Jefferson does it is a disgrace to that style of photography. To capture death and despair is to be a witness (And while some ague it's wrong and a violation of privacy, it's not hurting someone), to cause it for the sake of documenting it is disgusting. You're not showing evil in the world or showing the pain of someone- you're causing it.
>>159545246 is right when he says Jefferson's work is maturbatory. A very creative and correct term.
He could have gone to various places in the world to show suffering, loss of innocence, etc. and he could have become renowned and respected for doing so. Instead he chose to cause the pain himself and keep his work private, under the delusion that they were some kind of masterpiece.
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summerfell's characters always look like they are suffering hypothermia. Which is kind of sexy.
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>>159547570
You like-like dead corpses, anon?
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>>159547570
I've said similar before. His drawings look lifeless due to the pale and cold colors.
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>>159547392
Oops. Botched one of my biggest point first sentence.
As an UNstaged, natural shot...
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>>159544795
>germans wanting to go to war with russia once more
Wow, they sure like to get their asses handed to them

this is also evidence that germans are subhumans imho
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just finished the game.
And yes, I chose bae over bay.
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I never thought this before but does everyone act their age?
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>>159548520
Good job! Welcome to /lisg/
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>>159533102
fucking definitely. I've never seen such perfect romance before.
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>>159528298
who's the artist?

>>159537731
definitaly lockscreen worthy.
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>>159549753
We don't know the ages of many of them. But I can say that Max acted well beyond her age and Chloe grew up five years in just a week.
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>>159536298
>I'm a little bit country
>I'm a little bit rock and roll
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>>159547925
No, but I like freezing people. It's a fascination I've acquired when I was young, watching a TV show I have been as of yet unable to re-discover in which a pretty, almost androgynous boy was shut into the trunk of a car in a junkyard and forced to stay there the night. Intermittently they would have shots of him hugging and clinging onto himself, shivering, blueish-purple lips, pale face and all. I'm not gay, and this is not strictly a sexual fascination (i. e. fetish) at all, but I like it. The cold, pale, blue vulnerability.

Some day I will happen upon a girl suffering from exposure and rescue her with my body warmth.

>>159548086
I could dig the palette if the style was a little softer. Still, she does also have a few pretty nice works and overall I consider most of it save-worthy.

>>159548520
Hi.

And welcome. Max and Chloe are proud of you.

>>159549753
Yes. Psychopathology excluded (but even that not necessarily), everyone acts and cannot not act, their age. "Their" in the narrower sense of acting how they, individually, do - that behaviour necessarily being product of their distinct psychophysiologcal "age"; which is the actual physical, biochemical state of their brain as a culmination of influence experienced over the time they have been alive, their brain has been a functioning, ficitile system for.

In the broader sense, "acting one's age" is just varying composition of vague cultural and societal, even personal concepts that - while they do certainly overlap with biological realities of "age" at times and in parts - have no bearing on the specificity of individualistic behaviour and behavioural idiosyncracy conceivable of every single mind at any conceivable point of its - as far as we know - neverending plasticity.

>>159551926
Me neither.

>>159552158
kiwiclementine.tumblr.com

>definitaly
Only Sherly gets to do this! (Still cute though.)
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>>159549753
>>159553214
Or did you mean whether the characters in LiS specifically act "their" age? Well, I have answered that indirectly already, but there's the distinction there that they are written characters, so their behaviour actually is product entirely of cultural, societal and personal ideas about age-specific behaviour of those that created them. Which is then even more undebatably a "yes" - they act according to the actual idea of "acting their age" of their creators; the validity of that idea however is largely insusceptible to debate. Glaringly obvious behaviouristic oddities aside, which I can't say I have seen any of. (But Victoria wears grandma clothing! Max has a teddy bear! Alice is way too wise to be of any age a rabbit realistically could be!)
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>>159542953
The pictures are still amazing, let's not delude themselves.
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>>159553214
thanks you!
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>>159553748
Poster above, and posts from earlier threads, have had very valid criticisms about Jefferson's work from many aspects.
The conditions they are taken under destroy almost all merit of they may have. Without the appeal of the illegal method they are taken in, they have little worth.
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>>159554634
As an artwork they're great though, legal or not. This is like finding Hitler's work horrible cause Hitler did it.
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>>159553748
I don't think they are. They are genuinely not interesting in most of any sense to me.

We've talked about that before. I consume a lot of LiS art; a year later I still have the motivation to go and spend some time browsing through the various art sites every second day or so. But I have never beyond a couple of times (and then it was mostly to do with discussion) felt the need to re-visit any of the Dark Room art. Not the canon work, not the fanart that revolves around that theme. It is genuinely not intriguing to me.

I could see how it could be... but mostly as a type of sexual fascination. At least something specifically to do with the perfidious nature of the entire ordeal. Some kind of morbid fascination with the imagining of the characters in such a state.

I can't see anything inherently aesthetically or artistically pleasing in it. And again, no merit or value either.

And that's not me hating Jefferson. If anything, I had wanted for him to be something more than a delusional, criminally stupid and artistically boring at best character. As is, I just can't help but feel he is quite pathetic in quite a lot of ways... His obsession certainly seems to me. It really seems an uninspired and masturbatory one.
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Can some one drop the comic of chloe coming out to her mom and she reacts with no shit?
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>>159554760
They're not great though. They are black and white shots of someone bound and laying on a floor or sitting in a chair. There is no emotion or talent on the part of the model, the background is just a white tarp, and the photographs themselves are nothing special.
There is a focus on Chiaroscuro but as the only artistic element it doesn't do enough to make the piece worth much. It's still just a black and white photo of a rigidly posed model.
Hitler had problems with perspective and proportion but he was a painter and that takes more time and effort than taking a picture. He is allowed some slack because he was a student and using a harder medium.
Jefferson was well-known and a teacher of the subject and yet he still makes such mediocre work. Hardly worth his massive ego of that huge office that occupies a large portion of Blackwell's floor space.
Nathan's image of the grave digger was better than anything we see from Jefferson because it has a message and is a better framed shot.
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>>159555416
The kind of reaction I would expect from Joyce.
But still loving in its own way.
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>>159555759
"Oh and Max is my girlfriend."

"Chloe, how oblivious do you think I am? What's next? Going to tell me you have blue hair and that you got a tattoo?"

"I just wanted to finally say stuff and be more open, since I've been a bit of a bitch the last few years..."

"I know, Chloe. I know who you love, I know you still miss William, and I know you're trying to be better now. It's okay. You and Max have both grown up so much. C'mere."

>Group Hug
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>>159555438
Agreed. The only Dark Room-themed fanart I do like is as you last discussion around had also said the fierce Max stuff. That confidence and defiance, righteous disgust for him and dismissal of his art.

And sometimes, to an extent, some psycho stuff. That Ghost-Rachel that ripped his head off. Or the one where Jefferson is drawn as that intestine-eating painting hanging on the Dark Room wall. The paintings in there were actually themselves pretty intriguing in a way. Some "Psycho-Jefferson" art and the idea of a more unsettling character that's in that can be cool too. Or "Max is beyond you" art like pic related. Jefferson thought Max was locked in there with him. But he was locked in there with her! He didn't scare her. She was determined and composed throughout, manipulating time and Jefferson, ultimately winning - Jefferson's life being completely in her hands. Unconsciously at her mercy. She can have him killed if she wants. (But she doesn't. David doesn't deserve that, and Jefferson deserves worse. And this universe was doomed for erasure anyway.)

>>159557631
Now that's a photo I'd appreciate! A shot I would actually let David take.
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(If anyone has the original, pls gib.)
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The one truly good shot Jefferson actually takes of Max is the one she asks and poses for. It's not his style (color, consciousness, sitting postition, etc.) and a candid shot as candid can be down there. Max asks, he lines his camera up without much regard and snaps one shot quickly. And in that is captured Max's defiance. Her unimpressedness with him and his work. Asking for the shot is a manipulating move to begin with. She is playing him.

>>159560020
"Did you play on a potato?"

Sorry, dumping other stuff now. People have taken absolutely gorgeous photos with the free-camera mod though.
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>>159558749
Another lie of Jefferson's works. Trying to portray Max as weak and helpless when it was really one of her strongest and most defiant moments.
Even when she knows she may die, her concern is about Chloe and saving her. she doesn't give Jefferson the satisfaction of seeing her cry or panic. She lashes out at him to show who he's fighting and she buys time until rescue conveniently arrives.
Even though I don't want Max to have to know she has blood on her hands, I would have liked for her to use her power to freak Jefferson out and ultimately destroy him.
Teleporting around, moving objects around the room, saying what he is going to say before he can say it. Make Jefferson think he is in that room with a demon.Because he is.

Hell hath no fury like a Max facing someone that hurt her Chloe.
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>>159560687
(Appropriately, we are looking at it once won and freed.)
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>>159560773
Well said.
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>>159558749
That would be awesome photo. Maybe Max could even take one of Chloe, Joyce, and David looking happy.
I really wish there was more art of Max, Chloe, and their families. Let's face it, both Ryan/Vanessa and David/Joyce will see Max and Chloe as both their daughters anyway.
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>>159562146
A great family.
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>>159562567
>MAX IN THE DORK ROOM
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>>159561343
wait is this who i think it is?
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>>159562840
>every room Max is in is a Dork Room
>if Max and Chloe are together in a room, it becomes The Dork Room

>>159562935
Yep.

This one is another interesting fanart. It's not a photo Jefferson took. It has color, Max is wide awake. She has a sense of superior clarity here. Even in those drugged moments, he had no control over is, is the figurative re-translation then.
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>>159563289
Any vehicle they are in is Dork force One.
Just trying to keep things light-hearted amongst all the Dark Room/Jefferson stuff.

Although I gotta go for a while. So stay comfy!
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>>159563289
over her*

>>159563431
Still feeling like dumping some general Dark Room art (only non-threatening stuff though)...

Take care!
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>>159563289
why can't i find the picture on their deviantart?
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>>159563820
Check his tumblr!
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Stop posting Jeffershit, it's disgusting.
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>>159565607
Just a handful more than he gets rekt.

His character sucks. But some of these pictures show him as something more than he is, something more compelling he could have been.
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>>159565678
юбaны хипcтep
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>>159565918
*then he gets rekt
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The Rekenning Begins.
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Mr. Jefferson was a hero.
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>>159568524
Emphasis on was, either way.
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Overcoming "obstacles" in style.
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Ok, tired of looking for pictures of that clown.
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>>159560020
Some cool screenshots for you, then. Not mine though.
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Look mate if you're gonna post scenery at least post in 4k, 2016 is almost over, we don't need vhs resolution.
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Decisive moment.
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Spiritual ladybug? It was blocking it clock.
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>>159564120
>>159564120
I wish Jefferson had more dimensions
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>>159564815
>I love you Mr. Jefferson
The most haunting moment of the game.
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>>159566889
scary
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>>159569580
are these actual screenshots?
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>>159573639
>HELLO HOW DO YOU DO

is Arcadia Bay the cutest little town on earth?
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>>159575957
Nope. Max is.

You see, none of LIS is real! Max was killed in a freak car accident on her way back to Arcadia Bay! This is all her afterlife! That's why there is so much magic shit, she gets to be a superhero that everything revolves around, she gets to be super talented, everyone likes her (even if just secretly!), everything in town is qt or nostalgia driven, she gets to pal around with her cool and hot af childhood friend.

D U H ! ! !
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“Stop hogging the bunny” Chloe said, jostling for hand position.


“We can time the pats, so we can both do it” Max offered, slightly annoyed with the blue haired woman’s forwardness.


“Idea” Chloe said, setting Alice down on the coffee table with strict instructions not to move a muscle. “Here” Chloe grabbed Max and pulled her sideways on to her lap. Max grabbed Alice and they began to pet her in turns.


“Better?” Max asked Chloe. A nod was the only response.


The two women and one rabbit sat like this for a long time. Outside the storm had picked up again and the wind blew the rain hard against the windowpanes. Max closed her eyes and for a moment was once again back in Arcadia bay circa 2013. The wind whipped against the picture windows of the Two Whales diner. Lightning flashed and thunder boomed, shaking max's bones. Pompidou was warm under Max’s fingers. She had a decision to make, but she wished to God she could sit here forever, and not have to do what she knew she would have to. A sense of dread crept over her and she shivered.


“Wazz ron, babe?” Chloe was nearly incoherent at this point. Max leaned in and planted a kiss on Chloe’s lips. After a moment of surprise, Chloe leaned into the kiss. Grabbing Max by the back of the head, Chloe let out a small mmmphh.


Max pulled back, smiling ear to ear. She was here and she was now. “Not in front of the Rabbit” Max joked.
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>>159576525
don't do this to me. please man..
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>>159575768
Taken with the free-camera mod. Uploaded to tumblr @ shitres, unfortunately.

>>159575957
It's Pricefield's hometown town after all.
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>>159577343
w-wait did someone edit this? What is this screenshot?
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>>159577426
Yeah it's an edit, relax.
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>>159577754
I thought maybe it was a nightmare thing I missed
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>100 images already

Woah.
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>>159576660
P comf.

>>159577831
( ͡° ͡°)
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>>159560687
actually I am playing on a potato, and I hate it.
nice screenshots btw.
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>>159560687
>The one truly good shot Jefferson actually takes of Max is the one she asks and poses for.
when was that?
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>page 9
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>>159581035
That sucks. You could watch a Let's Play on high res for that eye-candy LiS experience.

I would post cool high-res screenshots, but it's been enough dumping for a night.

>>159581712
Among the pre-David confrontation manipulation options is one where Max can ask Jefferson to take a photo of her. "I want to be your best subject."
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>>159583724
wow lifting with so much ease!
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>>159584000
that sounds disgusting, how does it play out? Why does she ask that?
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>>159585667
Chloe is strong!
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>>159586474
did someone draw over cosplay?
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>>159585667
Chloe is a big girl.
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Well, that was an experience. I finally got around to playing, and man this game had a fucking murderboner for Chloe. So, partially because I'm a contrary and stubborn fucker, partially because of the one sided writing, and mainly because I actually really liked her, I chose to let Arcadia go boom.

And really, everyone was happy.

Well, everyone who was still alive. And now Max has a spine and knows the cost of cause and effect, and is willing to pay with interest and tell fate to die in a fire, and Chloe can go on further adventures and likely destroy more towns if Death keeps stalking her and Max has to keep saving her.

On a side note, is it just me, or is there hints of it actually not being Max so much as the town being built on a fucking worship site to Cthulu or something? I get the idea that Rachel was the doe, but it almost felt like she was fucking with Max in such a way as to be with Chloe forever, and ever, and ever, in that creepy corrupted spirit way. I got into the game because I wanted some interesting time manipulation and lesbians, and I got a game mix of World of Darkness, Doctor Who, with a hint of I don't even know.

Damn good game. A shame that if they ever do a sequel, it will probably have only tiny links to this volume, or as the Save Arcadia option was most likely the fan favorite follow that ending.
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>>159587290
Bean?
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>>159587330
Welcome friend, it's good to know you're one of us.

A lot of the shit is up to interpretation so I couldn't tell you one way or the other but I 99% believe the doe is Rachel also don't believe the tornado was her fault and death stalked Chloe but would no longer stalk her from beyond the tornado.


Both endings are canon btw.


Have this video and also have this webm because I like you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9TucT5gfk
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>>159586603
Again, they are things she does to manipulate Jefferson. She wants to stall for time, change the situation, anything. She obviously didn't mean it. But it worked.

>>159586671
Yep.

>>159587330
Welcome. One of the nicer post-game recaps we've had recently.

There's novel-length stuff to write about the ending choices, but I dig your personal reasoning behind which one you chose for what it is. Most here dislike how the game ended, and the final episode overall altogether, but the preferred choice is unanimously saving Chloe. BAE > Bay, every day.

The idea that death is following Chloe has been discredited multiple times. It's obviously easy to get a sense of Final Destination there, but for now it suffices to say that up until Episode 4 dontnod hadn't even planned to have Chloe die from the bathroom gutshot... so it really is not that she's supposed to die.
But I like your Rachel reasoning with regards to that; particularly the idea that she is trying from the afterlife to get Chloe. People have had similar theories, even if they don't really make much conclusive sense in the end. But there's still plenty room for rather elaborate theories on Rachel's (posthumous) involvement in it all - of both benevolent and malevolent nature, most reasonably a mix of the two. Like you say, there's all this Cthulu (Pazuzu, actually) stuff in the game with spirit animals and native american lore and whatnot that gives reason to believe there's something magical going on in Arcadia. Not to mention the Prescott stuff.

The endings are pretty much 50/50 still, and most people still in the fandom (i. e. the hardcore fans) are decidedly in favour of saving Chloe.
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So do I vote for Maxine or Chloe?
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>>159576660
Nice! Neat that you used my idea from the other thread of the storm momentarily bringing Max back. I think that's something that would happen from time to time and she would just need someone to talk to her, ideally Chloe.
Alice getting lots of attention. And Chloe also getting some.

>>159587330
Don't worry. The storm wasn't as bad as Max thought it would be. Most buildings were still standing and people had more than enough time to get out of the way or find shelter. Also no indication that anything else bad related to max's power will happened. It was just a consequence of using them for the first time.
Also many see Rachel's spirit knew who Max was and helped her save Chloe.
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>>159591859
Max, never Maxine
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>>159593353
Sorry :(
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'Life is Strange' is really a look back. It's the story and early works of famous photographer Max Price-Caulfield. Every photo Max takes during the game is one that was published in her first album book.
You're just seeing the context she took the photo in.
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>>159594445
Here's the thing about that. Maxine is a particularly powerful name, meaning 'greatest' or 'bright' and 'noble'. By Maxine preferring to go by Max, it implies that she feels unworthy of the name. This is why Chloe says at the end of the game, "You're Maxine fucking Caulfeild, you can do anything". Chloe recognizes that Max is indeed worthy of her name. Perhaps by the end of the game, Max realizes this too, and accepts people calling her by her full name.

Or maybe she just prefers being called Max.
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>>159587428
Just steal a beanie from Chloe
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>>159595820
She just prefers Max. Either because it sounds nicer to her or because she doesn't want to make a big deal of her self.
But we all agree with Chloe that Max is more than worthy and noble enough for her full name. But as long as she prefers Max, she shall be Max.
Although I will say that Maxine Price does have a very nice ring to it. Max Price sounds a little silly.
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>>159595820
I like to think it's because she thinks it's too feminine and/or formal.
Maxine doesn't really fit her slightly tomboyish nature.
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>>159596046
Stealing from Chloe is not polite
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>>159596352
I can imagine a more confident Max in the future. One who has already had a successful career in photography and now teaches the subject at a university. At the start of the school year she'll tell all her new students, "By the way, Maxine, never Max". Max at the start of the game is far less confident in herself than Max at the end of the game. She may even prefer Maxine by the end of it all. But who knows, just a thought I had. Maxine Price is defiantly (I feel like it's less cute when I do it on purpose) the best combination you can get from their names. Max Price sounds like a Saul Goodman car salesman type.

>>159596672
I also prefer Max. I just thought it was interesting to consider that Max may prefer Maxine (or at least not mind being called Maxine) by the end of the game. I think it was a very specific choice to have Chloe call her Maxine, especially considering they are potentially Chloe's final words to her. But I'm probably giving dontnod too much credit.
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>>159597816
Max stole her heart!

But Chloe got revenge and stole Max's in return.
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>>159598193
I also see Max becoming a photography teacher, but she would be one of the 'cool' ones. She wouldn't want to be called Professor Price (or Caulfield) or sucked up to by her students.
She would just want to encourage her students to follow their dreams, be confident, have fun, and be nice to one another. If allowing students to call her Max helps that goal then that's fine.
Personally, I think she would always ask to be called Max by people that know her, but she may use her full name for official stuff. Also a good icebreaker to meet her and address her as Maxine, and then she says with a smile that Max is fine.

As for when her and Chloe get married. Maxine Price is the best. It sounds the best, Chloe keeps her name, and William's name carries on (I can't remember if Joyce took David's name after they got married).
Plus Chloe Caulfield doesn't sound that good either.
So the choices are either Price, Price-Caulfield, or Pricefield (Some same-sex couples have merged their names). But I like Price the best for the reasons I said above.
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>>159598935
It was more of a mutual exchange. Just one they couldn't help make.
In every timeline they find and fall in love with each other.
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>>159588395
These webms always make me happy when I see them.
I hope at some point Youngchosugar does more.
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>>159589368
pretty damn neat
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>>159589368
how exactly does it play out though?
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>>159595820
>The Noble Maxine
I was wondering why you didn't call her the freckled wonder, then I saw her face! Now I'm a believer! Not a trace! Of freckles there!
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Say my name
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>>159605318
Chloe Elizabeth Price, Bae, Wife of Max
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What type of Camera does Max and William have?
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>>159605001
Todah!
Very todah indeed.
She actually does have a few discreet freckles in that pic but I appreciate the sentiment.

>>159605318
Ghloe
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>>159606882
According to the game's (unofficial) wiki, Max's camera is a Polaroid JobPro and William's is a Polaroid Image/Spectra.

>>159608024
Chloe's got wood!
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>>159608718
Polaroid Jobpro, one step 600, sun 660 all look like Max's camera right? Which do you think is the closest?

I can't find one like William's at all, spectra isn't really the same considering it pops open like a clam.
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>>159609702
Keep in mind that Dontnod only took inspiration from designs and didn't directly copy one due to artistic/legal reasons. The same thing for the firearms in the game (Which I've tried to find the closest examples).
Looking at a post on Reddit where someone asked the same question, they said the 600 is the closest to Max's. As for William's, I don't know.
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>>159610208
oh ok thank you. It's a shame though cause William's camera looks amazing and Max's camera has that really long cool flash. These people should really design cameras huh? I wouldnt mind 600 points to buy a working version of William's camera.
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>>159607983
You got something there, Max.
*wipes blood with napkin*
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>>159612180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4cLWRSjEUU
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Sleep tight, Pirates.
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>>159612826
Goodnight, and be warm!
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What is Kate doing now?
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>>159615330
She's sleeping six foot under
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>>159616732
that's kinda rude my dude
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>>159588395
>>159589368
>>159592064

Thanks anons. Went to sleep shortly after posting, and actually had LiS dreams. That's not happened with a game for a long time, so kudos to the devs all around, aside from those endings of course. But even then, I've experienced worse, as you buys elaborately explain.

Since I'm so late to the choochoo, is there any word of a sequel or other project by Nod? If they are anything like Telltale, this will be it, most likely. And that might even be best; lest they canonize an ending that do not want. At least this way both endings have equal weight.
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>>159618392
They're making a season 2 but it's not announced yet and it will not be featuring out beloved Max and Chloe. There's also going to be a live action digital tv show probably made for Netflix that's going to be about Max and Chloe.

If you want another emotional and meaningful game to play, play undertale, it's like 5-6 hours

If you want another nice and sweet emotional story that's short play brothers a tale of two sons which is 2.5-3 hours long.
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>>159617707
How? She's dead, I was just stating the fact
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>>159615330
She's up early preparing for class of course.
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>>159618807

Yeah, just discovered that with googlefu, but surprised they would do a digital tv show. It would have to follow the 'Sacrifice Arcadia' ending, or an alternate setting, as they don't talk for years and then Chloe dies in all other situations...? Same issue as if they were going to continue with Season 2 focused on Max. The game ends pretty conclusively either way.

Where did the info that Chloe was never actually intended to die from the gunshot come from? Because that would actually have made 'Sacrifice Chloe' feel like a reward and good ending, and still have the bitter-sweet elements of Rachel still being dead, and everything Max had done and gone through basically being a hell of her own creation, because ironically doing nothing resulted in the best ending, with everyone who could be alive and well.

I'll check Undertale out, but I actually really hate that 'hole' left behind by the completion of a game that really pulls you in. It fucks me over emotionally for days, sometimes. I'm in the recovery stage now, and short of fanfics and pictures there is no LiS content to medicate with, so I'll likely drop out of the fandom as quickly as I entered it until something else is eventually released.

I'm actually really looking forwards to Vampyr. I'm a massive urban horror nerd, so it hits all the right marks, especially now I've seen what they can do.
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>>159619318
She should have graduated by now anon.

She probably married Warren and they are expecting their first baby any time now so she's became a housewife while working on her children's book on the side.
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>>159619464
We don't know what ending they'll pick for the game, perhaps it'll take a new conclusion or they'll allow users to pick what's right! Or even better yet just end with her trying to make up her mind.

Man the lis fandom offered so much actually, it feels great that it exists, there's so much artwork and fan made music, jus so much dedication towards this game it is wonderful.

Yeah... I hope vampyr is good, it better be...
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>>159572803
>we don't need vhs resolution
But doesn't it fit the hipster aesthetic? It's like the video equivalent of a polaroid
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>>159619781
>I hope vampyr is good
The gameplay doesn't look good from the preview videos I've seen.

The story might be good though.
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>>159521907
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget
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>>159621010
the story is all I hope for, game play can be sub par but if the story is good its good. Think spec ops.
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>>159619464
>>159619781
>they hyped for vampyr
remember we also hyped for the last episode of LiS and it ended up with Bollywood logic as a result.
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>>159621725
how is that bollywood logic?
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>>159621892
u implying ep 5 was logical, sucka?
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>>159621892
>the way they've presented/explained time-travel part is neither loyal or rational to the events in game
>even though they aware of that,eventually player stuck between choose binary choices rather than getting a logical solution
>because they just wanted to give you a hard time,wanted to make you cry no matter if consclucion is foolish and obviously isn't loyal to game's events
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>>159621210
>spec ops
Do you feel like an everyday hero yet?

Also, the game play in spec ops was intentionally cookie cutter to make a statement about the moral absolutism of triple A military shooters. It was nothing more than functional because that's all it had to be. In that sense the game play was perfect because of how it was contextualized by the narrative.
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>>159622889

Actually, I can agree with this. It's one of the reasons I chose to let Arcadia burn; I rebelled and washed my hands of the blood.

I still don't get why Max was seeing the storm before even entering the bathroom, or using her powers. To me that indicates that, originally, it had nothing to do with her powers, aside from perhaps being connected to the why of her getting them, and they (and it's allegedly been admitted they ran out of money) just tried to wrap it all up with maximum drama.

A shame that I'm going to treat word of god as pointless and simply take the story at face value, and not treat the citizens like idiots, nor put the deathtoll of Max for deciding enough was enough. People died in the storm. very sad. Same as in real storms in real life.

Kate was still in the hospital, and they have procedures for disasters, and thus almost certainly survived. Same for the school. David likely took other officers to arrest Dexter. The Diner was unburnt and there was no sign of an explosion, thus we have no reason to believe they didn't ride it out, and they were really the only characters in question for me.

Ritually sacrificing Chloe to a supernatural tornado in hopes that it doesn't happen anyway, and out uneducated theories are right on the cause, is just completely out of the question for me.

I reject bittersweet, or at least any that isn't related to the same sorrow that any (natural) disaster brings. It might even end up being good for Arcadia.

>tfw, according to the wiki, around 53% chose to let Chloe die after all that had happened.
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>>159624035
>tfw 53% of people think that killing cats stops plague
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>>159624174
>>159624035

To be fair, that's far more polarized than I expected the choice to be. I'm very much used to going with the unpopular choice in games, so it's nice to see it's almost even in this case. And the absolutely massive and passionate Max and Chloe fanbase might make the difference if they ever decide on a direct continuation, unlikely as that is.
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>>159624035
what I meant by consclucion is bullshit is ''sacrifice A sacrifice B'' tragedy;while there are many logical ways to save both at the same time and one of them (bay ending) isn't even loyal to game's time-travel events.developers just ignored every rules,events in game for tragedy and leave that ending just to make you cry,that's it.that's what I didn't like.
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>[To Dontnod's logic] a happy or at least logical result wouldn't make anyone cry
>So let's ignore every rules,drop plotholes to make'em cry (if they complain about something, say you're just left things up to players' imagination:))
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>>159624752

I honestly think it came down to money. I suspect they had a much more indepth plot for Episode 5, rather than Max's psychedelic adventures through recycled and slightly altered assets, but just ran out of the funds to execute it. Thus, we got what we did. I mean, they aren't terrible endings, really. Just somewhat nonsensical.

You aren't wrong (well, outside breaking pretty much every word of dialog to Chloe where you repeatedly vow that you will look after/save/be with her for ever) in choosing to go back, and of course I subjectively believe the ending where you stay true to your word and actions and save her is the best. But in the frame of Episode 5 neither are wrong. Hell, Chloe actively wants to do the noble sacrifice if you choose that option(, you monster.)

It's just the more I look at it, the more there seem to have been various plot revisions, and with Episode 5 likely a massive and panicked rewrite. Max having the vision of the storm before ever seeing Chloe again or using her powers is never explain, and we are expected to swallow some pretty flimsy in-character justifications for everything. We never learn where the powers come from, or why.
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>>159624480
Actually choice stats aren't that important as long as you aware of what's going on in game and aware of Max's actual character.
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>>159625635

Sure, and I agree. It just really annoys me when writers make it clear what they consider the 'right' choice, and they literally have (what I am certain is a fucking Eldritch being terrified of Rachel's vengeance and some larger story we never got told) an apparition of Max tell herself off, holding the rest of the characters none-nonsensically and incorrectly (as most aren't even in danger) hostage, so that you can't get rid of that niggle that even if you stand by your choice... you did it wrong, or at least not as intended.
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>>159625612
>But in the frame of Episode 5 neither are wrong. Hell, Chloe actively wants to do the noble sacrifice if you choose that option(, you monster.)
>We never learn where the powers come from, or why.
it was just for* showing her character development,that was all.but if you think of time-travel events in-game again, letting her die will fix the storm is pretty much retarded if you follow events in game, like I said.
and what also annoyed me the most is developers thought that they actually explained all of these fuckery in the diner scene;with doctor warryn graham's dialogues.

>It's just the more I look at it, the more there seem to have been various plot revisions, and with Episode 5 likely a massive and panicked rewrite.
yeah, aside from budget problems;their intention was the same sure, but problems are started with they tried to change plot with Episode 4 and of course,changing one of endings ''with the Episode 4's release''
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>>159627167

One of the benefits of joining a fandom a year or so late. All the cool shit is already there, along with a sequel announcement.

That image pretty much sums up why it was a none choice for me. It's also why I made them be in lesbians. It illustrates level of borderline obsession and co-dependency these two have. Seeing her as a cripple and the horrific choice only makes it more absurd.

That said, I don't know how the game handles it, dialog wise, if you do show interest in Warren and a complete lack of care in Chloe as best as choices allow. I can't imagine it making much difference, as she has pretty much 60% of the plot dedicated to her (the remaining split pretty well among the rest of the cast) and I don't see many of the scenes being that different. I imagine she is still your extra-precious best friend who you would do anything for. ANYTHING.
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>>159627167

That almost takes the sting out of knowing the writer considers me to have made a mistake. Almost. Thanks.

>It's the fucking 'Destroy/Red' option all over again.
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>>159627681
>It's also why ''I'' made them be in lesbians
>if you do show interest in Warren and a complete lack of care in Chloe as best as choices allow.
wth are you talking about?
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>>159627983

From what I could gather from a single playthrough, you can play the game as interested in Warren and just friends with Chloe. I'm just not sure how deep, or well executed/convincing, that path feels, and if it makes Sacrifice Chloe any more palatable.
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>>159628120

>Do Warryn favors
>*she ends up cucking him one way or another*
>Don't show interest to Chloe
>*she shows interest to her indepenant by your choices anyway*
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>>159628196

Oh. Okay, I did wonder, but assumed a little more freedom of choice than that. I thought Telltale had managed to beat that out of me already, but it is a different company, so I made a silly assumption.
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>>159628120
>you can play the game as interested in Warren
>just friends with Chloe

>play the game as interested in Warren and refuse Chloe's advantages
>no matter what did you do with Warren,she forgets all about Warren and shows zero affection for him afterwards.
>she fantasizes about blue chick eventually,feeling herself inadequate to her and jealous of thinking her with other people
>in two variations she ends up questions herself about if it's friendship or love.if you gave kiss her in episode 3 she realizes that what are exactly those feelings.
>if you don't kiss her earlier,she doesn't become aware her feelings (but nightmare implies subconsciously she's attracted to her) leaving her still feeling inadequate for Chloe and more deeply concerned about Chloe sees Rachel Amber in her future instead (she also has seen Chloe didn't change her background if you don't support her,since it triggers getting kiss in sac-chloe end) -'till Chloe's confession for Max in the end-
I had 4 alternate playthroughs.
You can create a Max which doesn't aware of her feelings for Chloe/feeling more inadequate.Or you can create a Max which's aware of her feelings more.Eventually you can change the path but result is the same.
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>>159629225
yes she is
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>>159629468

Huh, that sounds pretty cool. A shame the ending being so final sort of killed any desire to play through again in the near future. Some day.
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>>159631220

She ded.
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>>159622456
>>159622889

What's the relation to bollywood?
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>>159623162
I am aware but that was also my point.
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>>159619464
>It would have to follow the 'Sacrifice Arcadia' ending?
How so? If the show is about Max and Chloe, I think they will just have a re-imagining of the actual game story. Maybe even a re-telling.
As for the second season: We know that it won't be about Max and Chloe. If you take their word literally, it could conceivably be about either of two (prequel: Chloe; sequel: Max), but I highly doubt they will do that. Well, a prequel is possible, but still highly unlikely. Always sounded like they'd wanted to leave Arcadia behind altogether. And I can dig that. While the game does not "end pretty conclusively either way", it's true that Max and Chloe's story ends conclusively enough. A love story.

>Where did the info come from?
There was always tons of stuff in the game files. We've had countless spoiler-discussions in these threads when the game was still being released regarding those "leaks". One of those was the fact that the endings were called "On The Road" and "Hospital". The latter was replaced with "Cemetery" with the shipment of Episode 4. We also have concept art depicting Chloe in a hospital bed and dontnod saying they'd planned for her to be in a coma.

I don't think that would have made it a good ending. First, dontnod have always insisted it is primarily a coming-of-age story. This culminates in the choice Max makes and there's arguments for either why or how it could be considered an "adult" choice; with that choice being made however, the narrative had run its course. And as you rightly say, even without Chloe's death or Arcadia's destruction, there's more than enough bitterness either way. So having Chloe survive in one, and the storm dissipate in the other, would have actually made for better endings. But there's a lot of things that could have been better in Episode 5 altogether, and a lot of ideas for better endings specifically. Ultimately, I'm glad there's the outcome that has both alive, together, in love. Would never pick anything else.
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>>159633161
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>>159633161
It means it's illogical af
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>>159628398
In this regard, it is actually crucial to the story that they did not have "choices and consequences" concept expand to her feelings. Max is not an RPG character, it's not a dating-sim. The romance is always between Max and Chloe, and frankly, they are always strictly in love. That realization always hits Max, just sooner or later or stronger or more quietly depending on a respective playthrough. Warren was never a romantice option, and obviously there was never romantical substance there.

Without it being this strictly a love story, it would have been a lot less satisfying and ultimately meaningful to me. All that is between Max and Chloe, what they mean to and do for each other - it comes from a place of a deep connection of love that is certainly also a friendship, but clearly more than that.
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>>159633364
>>159633519
all I know about bollywood are those weird indian dances
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>>159633161
>bollywood logic >>159621725
>girl tries to reach her lover but the door is too far away so she can't reach him.since lovebirds've been seperated that brings tragedy consequently
>but ''if writers wouldn't drop logic for tragedy's sake'' she could've just used the door next to her so she could reach to the train and they could be together
which part don't you understand anon?
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>>159633732

That's fair. I suppose I was too blatant in my choices or something and their feelings were taken for granted, because a lot of it felt like subtext. The pretext of being childhood friends who are a bit too attached seemed to persevere right to the end, even though I chose to kiss her when she dared me, chose 'girls', and made it clear that Max considered her the most important thing to her. That said, it was pretty clear they were in love, and I can see exactly what you are saying.
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>>159633732
This.
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>http://chloepriceprotectionsquad.tumblr.com/post/131995621384/apparently-max-was-supposed-to-say-this-during-the
>"Oh, my Chloe..."
>"It feels like we've lived a thousand lives this week."
>"I'd do anything just to wake up next to you...

>https://instaud.io/dsa (try to not cry) you'll anyway
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>>159625612
I think there were more ideas and a little more conclusive backgrounds to it all that they would have touched on a little more elegantly (or at all) with more time and money... but the notion that they've had grand plans for all the things non-essential to their main bare-conceptual storyline I never bought. And there's obviously worse endings conceivable, but they are still quite terrible. Months of hate here and elsewhere of the fandom had been fueled by just how terrible. I've come to accept them for what they are and carved out something satisfying in either (in one infinitely more so than the other), but there's a lot of valid critique that goes beyond any potentially budget-induced issues.

Neither choice is wrong, that's true. But Chloe doesn't actively want to sacrifice herself. It's one of those things she does out of love - primarily out of love for Max. At the beach, the storm is already headed for them. Chloe says they have paid their dues, and that Max has got to stop beating herself up. She then brings them into safety. When Max still beats herself up over it on the cliff, Chloe visibly is thinking for a second and obviously highly conflicted, but she then offers Max this one "out". Chloe is willing to give everything to free Max of any guilt. It's not about her life or Arcadia; above all, she wants for Max to make her choice not out of guilt or regret or self-doubt.

And Max, out of love, sticks to Chloe. No doubt or regret; she realizes that she's not at fault and hasn't done anything wrong - she's been following her good heart throughout, and now in the end does once more, accepting and embracing all her choices and herself for who she is and truly feels is right. In that sense, SacChloe always felt like a great surrender and defeat of identity and love to me, a succumbing to the world and its cruel whim. And the other like a triumph. Love prevailing against all odds. Not least because I truly think they cannot make it without the other.
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>>159634437
There's very good things that come from the likely fact that dontnod did actually think they were telling a story that can "only" be about a deep friendship. Namely the authentic, quiet and sentimentally touching nature of their romance. But there's also the valid criticism that it can be a little too subtext-y for what it is, and for what it means to the story.

Still, narratively I clearly see that there's a love between them that stands at the beginning, core and center, and certainly end of it all. That's enough for me, even though it could have been conceived and conveyed so much more powerfully - at times certainly should have been: there's some key "Pricefield" scenes in the game that are crucial to this all-encompassing, all-defining love that I see at the core of the narrative, and those unfortunately lack emotional and romantical impact. Well, emotional and romantical impact that does justice to the emotional and romantical significance of these scenes in the context of the narrative.
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>>159635416
>SacChloe always felt like a great surrender [positive attitude is in overdrive] and defeat of identity and love to me, a succumbing to the world and its cruel whim. And the other like a triumph. Love prevailing against all odds. Not least because I truly think they cannot make it without the other.
Seriously though,for the first time I agree with you
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>>159636181
But I have wrote something along those lines a thousand times in these threads! Entire posts just dedicated to that singular point. Still appreciate your agreement.

And appreciate that pic. You always have the most weirdly endearing reaction images. And you are the only one that posts generic reaction images here at all. Which helps make the place feel a little more "4chan" that it otherwise would. Which I suppose is a good thing.
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>>159636474
*have written
*than it otherwise would
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They're alright
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>>159636474
I assumed that you're the anon that I always calling him as Pollyanna (we always end up arguing like old ppl) and always accusing me for samefagging as result.Even though I get angry at him sometimes I have to admit,I agree with him at some points.Still not sure about if you're him tho
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>>159637530
Sometimes I am him. ;^)
Let's leave it at that. And how apropos that you posted twice!

Seriously though, I'm sure we "agree" on most things dear to us with regards to LiS. And as I've said multiple times, we are here together sharing a mutual interest in or love for the game as such, even if we don't agree on everything in it or tangentially to do with it. And while I don't think we two have argued anything strictly to do with LiS in a while, what would /lisg/ be without old ppl arguments!


>>159636752
The Kids Are Alright.
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>>159638305
The first time In saw the picture a while back is helped me realize something: Chloe loved Rachel, but she wasn't in love with Rachel. The same goes for Rachel towards Chloe.
We see in Episode 3 that Rachel wasn't telling the full truth and that really hurt Chloe, but throughout the entire ordeal Max was nothing but honest with Chloe.
Unfortunately it took those awful discoveries about Rachel for Chloe to realize that her and Rachel were never really a thin/had a chance...but her and Max are destined. Rachel probably knew that as well and was totally fine with that fact, she knew there was someone for Chloe out there and she just had to wait.
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>>159638334
Yeah we are agreeing each other when it comes to LiS and talking about Max and Chloe.But when it comes to discuss thread's problems just like the one which's happened 4 days ago and things like discussing Michel,Warryn we are always start to arguing one way or another (not to mention you're accusing me samefagging) Probably we're gonna argue with each other again for some whatever reason,anyway.
But I still love you even though you drive me mad sometimes.
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>>159638334
>>159639659
can i join you?
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>>159639659
>ywn go to Wrestlemania with Victoria
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>>159639659
>>159640038
That we are still here together after all this time should mean enough by itself. Certainly enough for hugs.

>>159640152
I feel for you.
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>>159639613
damn feels.....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5torz91mAc

Just letting this here...
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>9:48-10:18
kek
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This game has served to highlight how shallow my relationships actually are. Of course, I should be happy to have a group of friends I see weekly and a great family, and I am, but I've never had one of those close friendships where you are as comfortable enough together to just hang out constantly, and know eachother as well as yourself. Or are at least woefully co-dependant.

Time to drown my sorrows and feels in more games, rather than alcohol.

What other games have that sort of character relationships? I remember feeling that way with a few Bioware companions, but a very few. I got a bit of it from the team in Tales from the Borderlands. Bioshock Infinite seemed like it might, until spoilers ruined it, in more ways than one.
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>>159644014
>What other games have that sort of character relationships?
Sims
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>>159644014
Nothing is quite like this relationship. Especially not in games. That's one of the primary reasons why this one has stuck and resonated with so many people so deeply.

Oxenfree, Gone Home, To The Moon and Undertale are commonly mentioned in this context though.
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>>159644676

Well, yeah, but it helps if there is at least an attempt at a narrative to go with the character interplay.

I actually used to play a lot of visual novels to scratch the same itch, because there was often a route that would feel right. Tsukihime, Fate/Stay, and a few of the routes in the one about a disability school had the same feeling.
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>>159645273
>Nothing is quite like this relationship.

Oddly, I can't quite put my finger on what it IS about their relationship that deflated my blackened blood muscle with longing and envy. How genuine and earnest it seems? How real?

Because, actually, from a cynical view they don't actually spend as much time together as they seem to, and a lot of their interaction is just chasing the mystery. Hell, Chloe spends fairly lengthy periods offscreen, dead, or pursuing her mystery. The game is relatively short, and there is some strife over the fact they haven't seen eachother in years.
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>>159645273

Thanks, I'll take a look. Undertale sounds interesting.
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>>159645803
It's because they haven't seen each other in years that it's so powerful.
Right from the start we see Max has problems with being confident in herself. One of the first things we learn about her is she wants to see Chloe again.
Similarly, we learn how bad Chloe has been the past five years. She's only had one real bright spot in her life during that time and it's missing.
It's clear that Max and Chloe separating entirely for five years was a big mistake. They realize that and they put their all into making up for it. We see how their friendship quickly resumes and begins to develop into more and how they both balance/compliment each other.

That's why Pricefield is so good. It's a true partnership and symbiosis. Unfortunately, both Max and Chloe have been hurt and damaged by numerous things. But they work together to make things better.
It's much more genuine and touching than just one partner propping up or rescuing the other.
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>>159646367

I think you're perhaps dead on.

>It's much more genuine and touching than just one partner propping up or rescuing the other.

This in particular, because relationships in games are usually the PC fixing all a characters problems and 'winning' a few romantic sounding banters, some hero worship, and a fade to black scene. Even in a lot of other fiction, one character is the strong main character who wins the other, though gaming is the biggest offender by far. In the same vain, I'm finding the Batman x Catwoman relationship in the Telltale game is the strongest portrayal I've seen in a while for the same reason; both sides are equal parts of the relationship, and both have something to offer.
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>>159645803
I don't think anyone can quite put a finger on it. Otherwise it wouldn't be this unique. Not even dontnod themselves. It is a wholly emergent thing, something magical and largely irreplicable. ...Of some kind.

Anyway, what it actually is about their relationship that strikes people so deeply, and how it does, are topics you can literally read novels about. Here and in fanfiction. I could go on and on, really. There's so much nuance, subtlety and facets to it. Certainly this also has to do with one's own imagination precisely because the narrative here has a way to leave gaps in things - both in having interactions literally happen off-screen (there's a lot of time Max and Chloe spend together we can only speculate about, but that speculation comes naturally, enjoyably) and in having authentic volatility in their behaviour and a self-evidence in the romance. As in, it's the showing-not-telling thing, but in a very fascinating and natural way that makes these characters, their dynamic and the love in that come so alive and feel so personal.

But I'm already starting to go into incoherent ranting mode. There's really too much to be said and has been said to get this across. And it's for you to discover, if it does stick with you like it does with others. Ultimately, it's a very personal understanding and appreciation of this relationship and game altogether that people have experienced and develop in continuously confronting and contemplating it. So maybe you will have to do the same old thing and spend months and more sogging it all up, fleshing it out, delve into those feelings and sentiments attached to and associated with it. Explore and enjoy it like people two years later still are.

...Or you just get over it. By conscious will because otherwise it consumes a lot of time, or just because you just don't feel as inclined to indulge in and aren't as attached to what is ultimately still a game.
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>>159647074

>And it's for you to discover, if it does stick with you like it does with others.

There is a danger of that, as I tend to get fixated at the best of times. It caught me by surprise here. I came from the World of Darkness thread of all places, and felt the time manipulation might give me a supernatural fix. Them, wham. Most engaging romance and relationship I've experienced in... well, ever, perhaps. Painfully, it's in a quickly completed game.

>...Or you just get over it. By conscious will because otherwise it consumes a lot of time

I may have to try this, because I'm prone to obsessing over fandom, and my mood actually drops if I can't keep the beast fed. Thankfully Christmas is coming up, and Rogue One should draw me back to Star Wars for a while. I'll likely revisit when they release Season 2 and/or the animated film about Max and Chloe that got mentioned. Likely the latter, as while the rest of the game was fun, it wasn't what kept me enthralled.
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>>159645803
There's also this: http://mugflub.blogspot.de/2016/07/why-life-is-strange-screwed-you-up.html

But I don't agree with or feel everything in there is accurate. Not least because it is, again, a very personal experience in a lot of ways.

Still, that read could help you understand it more for yourself. ...Without having to read novels here and elsewhere about it.

>>159646334
There's also Firewatch, but once you mention that a wider variety of other games would apply. It still has a very character and relationship-centered narrative and intimacy, so maybe try it if you haven't.

>>159646998
The friendship-gone-lovers quality of it just as a format is something quite magnificent we see seldom in fiction altogether. Combine that with the fact that it's a same-sex relationship, and it's just as a premise already a rarity. We as humans I'm afraid simply don't see "genuine" friendship between a man and woman. Especially not in fictional characters. There's always somehow someway the romantical or at the very least sexual implication to it to some extent, inside and out. But with people of the same gender, we really are more likely to buy that and embrace that friendship. When it then turns to or manifests romantically, that's more natural - it feels more like something that occurs organically "because they really love each other" and not because "they must love each other, it's a close relaitonship between man and woman, in a story no less".

But that's just the format/premise aspect of it. The brilliance of it really does have a lot to do with these very characters, their very stories, their dynamic, relationship, experiences, the distinct romance of this story and world that revolves around them and it in so many ways. I hope dontnod can replicate something similar, but this story stands as something wholly unique and it will for... all eternity? I have read a fair share of classic romance lit, we've all seen the films. There's nothing quite like it.
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>>159648192
>Painfully, it's in a quickly completed game.
Well, imagine how it was for the people that played it in rhythm with the relase schedule! Months upon months of obsessing over every single detail. There was really so much to it during those periods, but with time it all for me has also really boiled down to the two main characters and even more the relationship they share that has stuck with me.

But there's still a lot to discover even if all our crazy theories ultimaltey led nowhere, and maybe you'll even find yourself compelled to play again, sometime. I have... 96 hours playtime or something. Sometimes just booting it up to have Max sit down for one of those moments of calms. And there's people that have more than double my playtime. Go figure.

>I may have to try this, because I'm prone to obsessing over fandom
Well, whatever you end up doing, I hope you'll enjoy it! It's an obsession alright, and I'm sure - and actually know if - plenty people grew to dislike how attached they are to this game, especially with how bitter and weak on the closure side of things it ends... but I maintain that it is an enjoyable obsession for me. I still like being here and "keeping Max and Chloe alive". And maybe it is an addiction of sorts, but I can still get shit done without it intruding my thoughts otherwise. But it's a lot of time spent, that's for sure.

See you around for the tv show (which has all chances to be utterly horrible, lol) or at latest next season.
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>tfw we'll never see them again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQPc-PK1gM
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>>159649173

Hmm, I wonder what is actually worse, getting it all and it being over so fast, or as you say waiting, and arriving at Episode 4's ending and having to wait.

Hmm, just sitting on a bench might actually be therapeutic. I actually did leave them laying next to eachother the morning after the pool. I never do stuff like that.

Still, that's impressive playtime. As the closest allegory is Telltale, these days (except Batman, which I made an exception for) I let all the episodes come out. I loved Tales from the Borderline, but I think only as a whole. I'm one of the rare few who found the brief and barely touched on romance with Sasha pretty moving.

I guess we'll see how the obsession goes. I commented earlier in the thread that I actually dreamed about the game last night, after completing it. I don't usually do that, or even remember my dreams. So it has hit pretty hard.

>>159648239

Thanks, I may well need that link, lol.

I also agree with pretty much everything you said. I really wasn't expecting to get hit by a freight train as I did.
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>>159650187
>Walking down the street
>See these two just talking and being happy together
Day brightened
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>>159650014
I can honestly say I don't even clearly remember how it'd felt during that time. I just know experiencing it like that and through this thread has gotten me invested like I just can't see I would have been if I had just played it in one go without all the thinking and talking between every episode.

But I'll never know. I was never too outright emotionally invested in the game (as in, it didn't make me cry horribly or laugh euphorically, more a damp eye here or a smirk there), but with time feelings regarding it have developed and changed and then there were actually some more powerfully emotional moments where some things came together just right in reading about the game, thinking and writing about it, certain music playing, seeing things I somehow associate with it.

That's never been what I was here for, more just comfortably and enjoyably wasting time I guess, but those moments alone are worth it. There's a lot of real nostalgia, melancholia, euphoria in it that can sentimentally translate into real life if you allow it to.

Or sometimes it just gets you by itself; people call it Post-LiS Disorder/Depression and apparently you can have relapses. I don't quite buy that it's so bad for people, but then plently have actually reported in these threads and other places that they've had trouble sleeping, eating or feeling anything but the game for days, and then there's obviously the lastingly emotional way in which it sticks with people over months and now years. So there certainly is a truth in that it makes for a very imprinting (/"traumatic") experience, for some viscerally emotionally so.
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>more than one year has passed since the finale

Why does this shit feel like yesterday?
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I hope we see Max, Chloe, and others in season 2.
Even if it's just for a few seconds. Or hidden.
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>>159652896
Time flies like in sleep.
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>>159653878
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>>159654131
Poor Max looks tried there. Chloe should take her home so she can take a nap.
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>>159649451
Don't lose hope, anon. We still have the life action to look forwards to. And rumor is there may be a second game/dlc in the works.
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>>159650014
Oh, and I've dreamed about the game myself. Two or three times in the past that I remember quite vividly, and actually yesterday night again.

Did your dream happen to be about a future setting of the story? I think it was either the TV thing or next season that I somehow dreamed of experiencing as myself in the dream (well, as the de-personalized "dreamer self" how it tends to be in there), and it was a darkish green sky that gradually bleeded into lighter blue, the view shifted down and it was Max on a swing with someone else. Then she received a message on her phone from Chloe - something short and cryptic that I can only remember included "Her" as a word. And Max was somehow weirdly alarmed and strangely so was I, and then I felt a great threatening distance and complexity in this world between the two and it was pretty horrible. I think then I woke up.

In the impossible case that yours was similar, maybe this is some predestined shit.

>>159654923
Max looks pretty tired in the game sometimes. Our poor superhero needs a good nap in Chloe's lap, Chloe's soft scalp scratches and beautiful humming lulling her softly into the happiest, most pleasant dreams.

>>159655093
>newfriend comforts oldfriend
This is cute.
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>>159655438
I don't blame Max for not getting much sleep during the game. It seems like her only good night was the one she spent at Chloe's house, and even then they got there pretty late at night and woke up the next morning.
She may force herself to stay up the fay after the storm out of fear of nightmares. But once she and Chloe get to a motel or to Seattle they both of them are going to sleep like rocks.
They've certainly earned it. But I'm sure Chloe will force herself to stay up until she's sure Max is asleep and not having any bad dreams.
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>>159655920
Some things never change: Max and Chloe's love for each other and lapnaps.
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>>159656218
Maybe she dozed off on the ride and then jolted up from a nightmare. Chloe rummaged through her stuff to give her an energy drink to make sure the next time she falls asleep she can help her do so comfortably and ward off nightmares.
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>>159655438
Max and Chloe appeared in one or two of my dreams out of the blue. It was fun but I can't remember much.
The only real LiS-themed dream I've had actually involved a younger Max & Chloe, and William and Joyce. I was in their house when a tornado came through and they had a cellar we hid in.

>>159656678
That Chloe can't even stroke Max's head or back.
It's just not fair. I know Chloe was happier (Or at least appeared to be), but screw that timeline. Chloe deserves a long life full of travel and physical affection.
I'm glad Max changed things back. Chloe understood and William would have as well.
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>>159656880
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>>159657102
My first two dreams actually were about Victoria, lol.

And it really isn't fair, so Max made it so. William would have genuinely wanted her to, too. And Chloe will realize that in time as well.
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I'm the fury in your head
I'm the fury in your bed
I'm the ghost in the back of your head
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What are their names again? Marx and Floe?
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>>159657893
Maks and Chloby.
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Chloe enjoys sleeping in Max's lap too!
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>>159657540
Even in her pissed off mood when she was ready to kill Nathan, Chloe understood what Max did and why. She was mostly just surprised that Max saw William again, perhaps also sad she didn't get that opportunity. But as said before, maybe she could get that chance in the future if she and Max are willing to try it.

>>159657893
Chlax and Moe
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>>159658363
What a nice scene. The lighting is good and all the little critters are cool.
Looks less rubbery than other stuff Mike Kossi has made. Not a fan of the title in the corner though.

>Chloe saying hi to all the animals
>Hello, Bluejay, -*tweet*
>Hello Butterfly -*Wings flutter*
>Hello, Squirrel -*Teeth chatter*
>Hello, Owl -*Hoo.*
>Hello, Doe, -*Rachel's voice* "Yo Chlo! What's up?!"
>Chloe pauses and stares for a few seconds, the doe just eats some grass
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>>159657772
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>>159658623
>Chloe understood what Max did and why.
Yep, I meant she would realize that William would have chosen to go out that door if he had had that choice.

>>159659172
The pic references Stranger Things in style and with that title. But yeah, a clean version could have been nice.

Here's a new Kossi by the way.
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>>159635094
this kills the heart.
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>>159659598
>>159635094
>they cut where Max says "I love you" to Chloe
reeee
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>>159660212
At least they kept Chloe's in, and Max still writes it in her journal. The words were never necessary anyway. (And she would have only said it in the bad ending).
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>>159659418
If the player did that horrible thing to Max, I give her two days tops to undo it.
Even if the storm isn't coming. Max will feel horrible and beg forgiveness (Even though she has nothing to be sorry for), but she cannot live in that world.

>>159659531
Indeed. William was a good man and he would do anything to keep his daughter safe. We know Chloe can, and does, get over her pain and learn what Joyce was trying to tell her the whole time.
Also a very nice image. The reflection is done well and looking at the lighting I can know Max's face feels warm.
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https://www.patreon.com/posts/dormitory-room-7187931

sbel's making more playable stuff! I wonder how far he'll go.
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>>159660212
no way what was that line?
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>>159661530
Has everyone forgiven Sbel now?
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>>159656424
not messy enough
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>>159661609
Listen to this: https://instaud.io/dsa
What Chloe says here is still in the game, but Max's part is cut.

>>159661530
Looks good. More canon-like stuff from Sbel, maybe.

>>159661669
Don't think there's anything I'd have to "forgive" him. Some of his stuff I like, others less so, but in the end he's creating high quality LiS content.
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>>159661390
And as you've mentioned, they could also go back one day, perhaps. And have William tell her himself.
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>>159662027
oh my god its too fucking early for this fucking tearing my heart to pieces man.
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>>159661669
>Has everyone forgiven Sbel now?
What happened?
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>>159663689
nothing, he did a joke and people here got autistic
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>>159661530
Neat. I haven't played any of the levels myself but the videos have been nice (For the most part).
I never disliked Sbel as a person, I just didn't like the less comfy videos. As long as he still makes the nice stuff I don't mind. There's that other animator Camben24 which does a majority silly stuff.

>>159663689
He made a few videos that were in somewhat bad taste and he recreated 'Kate's Video'. But overall he's talented and created some really nice scenes. Plus the older Max and Chloe models. Hopefully he'll use those, and the model he made for Rachel, more.
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>>159665846
When is Sbel going to buckle down and make his own LiS game?
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>>159667712
It would be cool if he got some job at Dontnod.
I have hope that one day he makes a scene in Seattle and models of Max's parents
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I WANT TO SING AGAIN
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>>159669939
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>>159670698
what song?
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Max smells...
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>>159671108
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>>159674034
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>>159672789
A little sweaty right now because the slowpoke has to keep up.
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>>159674209
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>>159674558
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>>159674209
That's a busty Chloe.
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>>159674209
god this is too cute
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>>159674769
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>>159674975
>>159669939
Complete/full res version.

>>159674801
And >>159674558 is too. No idea what's going on in these artists' heads, but I assume the contest attracted people that hadn't played the game and they just looked at some screenshots from which they misjudged their appearance? See also: green eyes. Still weird.
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Who is the most sinister character?
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>>159671108
Hella cute!

>>159674975
I like the colors in this one.
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>>159676929
Jefferson.

>frame in the dark room
pls no
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I wish I could live in here with yall where it's comfy and there are no exams to make me feel stupid
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http://www.crossmap.com/news/life-is-strange-2-set-to-be-released-by-january-2017-27595
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>>159683387
>clickbait headline
>article locked behind survey
Anon why
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>>159683628
Article isnt locked for me
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>>159683159
Keep at it, Skip.

>>159683387
Sorry, but that's been debunked already. Pure speculation. Also months old.
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>>159683716
That's weird, it was for me first time, then I reloaded and it wasnt. It still doesn't tell us anything new though, we've known all this since like last year.
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>>159683628
There ya go
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Have you found your max, /lisg/?
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>>159684328
Anon, there's a Max in all of us
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>>159684328
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>>159684328
I found my Kate.
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>>159684557
post pics
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>>159684328
Still trying anon.
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>>159684328
Nop.
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>>159684603
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>>159684883
Too late
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Why does nobody cares about Kate?
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>>159685454
why should we?
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>>159685454
Jesus cares, anon.
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>>159687067
i just realised, would jesus care about fictional characters?
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>>159687453
Would a fictional character care about other fictional characters?
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>>159683387
>>159683997
No. That article was from May of this year. It's now November and we have no indication of any major work being done yet.
Vampyr is scheduled for release some time next year and even though there's different teams, everyone will be helping put the final touches on that.
At most I would expect a general announcement about Season 2 next Summer.

>>159685454
Tons of people (and Alice!) do. Her family, Max, Chloe, Victoria, Stella, Alyssa, everyone else that wished her well in the Hospital.
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How would Chloe woo Max?
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I love Max but I value Chloe.
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>>159689352
By existing. That's all she has to do to win over Max.
Some flowers and pampering wouldn't hurt anything though.
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>>159689375
I love and value the both of them. Miracles of this universe that have a love that defeats any and all obstacles.
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>>159619495
>pregnant Kate
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>>159692216
Kate would make a great mom. But I do not see her getting married to Warren.
There really weren't any boys in Arcadia Bay for her, she'll meet the love of her life elsewhere.
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>>159635094
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If there's any references to S1 in S2 they had better be based on previous choices.
if there is something in the sequel suggesting Chloe died I will leave a bunch of pissed off Raccoons in DONTNOD's office.
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>Finish Oxenfree
>start looking up information about other endings
>find discussions about the game and people talking about Mari's theories

Why can't I get away from this bitch?
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>>159697281
Fuck. The realization hit me that She's going to do theories and shit for a sequel.
While I don't actively look at them, I still encountered her nonsense during the run of the game. If and when that times comes, perhaps we should all agree (And tell newfriends) not to discuss her idiotic theories.
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>>159697281
>>159698802
why do people care if she makes theories?
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>>159683129
Rachel?

>>159683159
Don't worry, Skippy. You're not stupid.
Everyone is good at something and not so good at other things.
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>>159698864
It's more that people start posting them in other places and eventually they ended up here. Apparently she even came her to stir-shit a few times.
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>>159700721
Theories are theories though who cares?
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>>159700472
I( think so
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>>159702816
See. Max made everything right. No storm, Jefferson and Nathan got what they deserve and need, Rachel is alright.
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Best couple coming through
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>>159660212
>>159661609
'I love you' part was instead of kissing scene.

Besides Max still implies that she loves her (in both ways) anyway
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OTP comin' through.
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>>159705636
Fuck these cunts not giving us a kiss for bae ending.
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>>159705636
Oh absolutely, even though Max never says "I love you" to Chloe, it doesn't need to be said in that moment. It's understood and neither of them wants to appear selfish or anything in that moment. They just hold each other until the storm passes.
Those words will be said countless times after that day. The same goes for kisses, none in that moment but tons in the future.
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>>159704325
what kind of delusional world the creator was living in while he was making this?
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>>159705947
I kind of agree with Michel that there wasn't a very good time for it. On the cliff, after Max rips the photo, they both watch the storm for a little bit to absorb the reality and then they embrace each other for comfort. To kiss then would have been a little weird.
Same for kissing while driving through the town and seeing damage and a few bodies, wouldn't have been fitting.

Right before they drive away a little peck from one to the other just to say "Hey, I'm here and not leaving." would have been nice. Or even better a little time-skip and showing a real kiss between the two of them (Like webm related but ending it with a kiss. They're out of Arcadia Bay, they're safe and going to Max's parents, and maybe they've already heard from their friends/family.)
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>>159706282
Yeah I know I agree but at least an actual confession of love or something.
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>>159704325
>tfw some warrencuck from tumblr triggered so hard immediately after someone posted this one
Did they really think Max would ever choose Warryn over Chloe?
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>>159705636
>>159706000
> even though Max never says "I love you" to Chloe
chloe confesses her love for Max in either way ''i'll always love you/i'll always be with you''
and max uses 'L' word for Chloe in her journal
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>>159701764
>Theories are theories though who cares?
Michel.
This girl is Dontnod's bestie
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>>159706985
>yfw she's already gone to Chicago meeting and influenced on Season 2
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>>159706746
True. Max wrote it down.
It was also said in a few ways by the both of them.
Chloe's words you posted, Max saying how she wanted her life to be special but not without Chloe, Max saying she won't trade Chloe, etc. As sweet as hearing "I love you" would have been, it's kind of tame and boring compared to the other powerful words they gave each other. I will say that it would have been nice to flatout hear it though.
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>>159706570
I will give some credit to Warren for eventually realizing that Max was not into him. As well as for helping Max when he knew it was to save Chloe.

>>159707636
=kek
That's funny. Not sure why it couldn't just be made from the text messages in game, but still good.
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>>159697281
You make me want to die, why mention her name in the first place? We should just leave her to reddit if you ask me.
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>>159708087
I mentioned her out of frustration.

Play Oxenfree though, total LiS flashback playing it
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>>159707839
>I will give some credit to Warren for eventually realizing that Max was not into him.
yeah he is not a bad guy and he got the clue about what was going on between Max and Chloe especially after the photo focus,but he was still pushing his chances hopelessly.

>As well as for helping Max when he knew it was to save Chloe.
it was just a fortunate coincidence.not like he's a bad guy but also he has no chance other than giving her a photo right?
from his retarded theory ''going back in time is what caused the storm!"we all know that what did he interpret by Max's ''i'm going to right choices from now on'' sentence so
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>>159708635
>Max drives during storm was destroying the town just to get that photo
>He says he knows that she just came for the photo ''not him''
>Max says she found out she can actually go back into time by saving Chloe's life in bathroom
>"Max, not only the storm but the eclipse, the birds, the whales... everything!"
>''Max going back in time is what caused the storm!"
>"I'm not a real scientist, even though I play one at school, but this seems like pure cause and effect, maybe Chaos Theory...''
>Max says if these destruction was her fault
>He says she should give him a break and she didn't give herself time travel powers
>Max says they'd never know if those powers came from science or magic
>He says she's a part of wizard or a wormhole, part of something bigger.
>But eventually to him he associates Max's powers/saving Chloe in bathroom with the all of these destruction.

>"we all know that what did he interpret by Max's ''i'm going to right choices from now on'' sentence so
I wish Pompidou could bite him so hard desu.
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>>159709469
>>159708635
>he's too smart! and *sensitive* to live in a world like ours.
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>>159709469
>I'm really smart
>maybe it's a wizard or w/e, I don't have a fucking clue
>but killing ur loved one will definitely make everything better
Fuck you warryn.
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>>159711991
>Le monke
what happened to that guy? I'm too new to recognise anything else you're posting.
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>>159711991
Where's ''ur mom''
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>>159711991
>trolls of /lesg/
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>>159709978
ur mom's too smart! and *sensitive*
>>159712379
I don't know and I don't want to know. I hope he never comes back.
>>159712409
>>159712598
Therealwarren Mari Sbel
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>>159712675
>>I don't know and I don't want to know. I hope he never comes back.
I don't know how many times you guys dealt with him but I saw him like once or twice, it was just funny when he was banned and had his posts deleted but the next day there was an "I am a god" post with a spoilered image which was that damn monkey kek. Apart from that one time I wouldn't want him back.
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>>159712675
therealwarren pls fuck off
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>>159712675
ur mummy's dummy is too smart! and *sensitive*
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Reminder that trolls come and go but /lisg/ Molli and other comfy anons live on.
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>>159712675
>relating warryn with mom
Mom's disappointed
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>>159713035
IT WAS A FUCKING ACCIDENT
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>>159712675
>>159711991
>mentions every trolls' names
>but forgets to add psycho major and himself
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>>159712964
I hope molli is still here.
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>>159713332
I hope so.
I love Molli but fucking 4somecuck should stay away from here.
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>>159713273
Mona psycho is psycho major.
>>159713332
Poor molli.
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>>159667712
You really under-estimate time and effort required for that.
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>>159713079
>still lying
Moms are disappointed
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>>159711991
no u
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>>159713332
I hope so too...
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>>159664869
>he did a joke
>he thinks he is making people laugh by adding le harlem shake,gangnam style animations,le trolley face into his videos
yeah people here just got autistic.sbel's so funny :^)
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>>159711991
Clearly you are one of them
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>>159714293
>bumping thread by shitposting
Show your posts you criminal scum
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>>159713805
who even is this?
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>>159713992
I didn't say he was funny. Not all jokes are funny. I thought it was very tasteless but can't really hate a guy when he also makes some really nice and touching things now, can you? I'm too grateful for the peace the rest of his stuff gave me emotionally to be mad at him.
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>>159714472
Thanks.I reported all of them.

I hope you get banned soon
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>>159714571
>announcing your reports
I'm on my phone with autorotating dynamic ip you goof. You've been far more toxic to the thread than I have with my nostalgia shitposting.
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>>159714293
>>159714728
this is so embarassing
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>>159700721
I wouldn't say she came here to stir things up. We all got along quite fine with Mari initially.

The main problem was that her videos started going down-hill fairly quickly. Her LIS content got quite popular on YouTube, so in order to satisfy her audience, she seemingly had to keep pumping out fan theory videos despite kinda running out of content for them. And as part of that, she started massively over-analysing a lot of details. The famous example was her assumption that Taylor had an eating disorder simply because she was brushing her teeth around midnight at the start of Ep3 (her assumption being that she was brushing her teeth because she had just been purging).

Basically, she jumped the shark around Episode 3. We all kinda went from "hey, those are some neat little details you mentioned in your videos" to "... uhh. what? That doesn't make much sense ..." And for the most part, we weren't afraid to hold back from criticism.


A lot of people were also complaining that she used to inject herself and her life experiences into the discussions about the game. Apparently her and her recording partner spent some time at some type of rehabilitation clinic a number of years ago, which is what makes them extra qualified to talk about Nathan's issues (or lack thereof - Mari would refuse to acknowledge that Nathan's meds were supposed to indicate some sort of mental issues because *she* had previously been on the same meds and it didn't mean she had the same issues?), why Taylor had an eating disorder, etc, etc. This kind of attitude annoyed a lot of people.


And finally, there was the annoying Mari spam shortly after Episode 4. That didn't help.


But, eh, she's just a bit of a meme around here. I don't think any of us super hate(d) her or anything. Her videos just kinda went overboard, and she wasn't the most fun to discuss things with. Eventually, she stopped posting (or stopped announcing herself when she did).
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>>159715049
There were a few things she did that were completely moronic and toxic to the fandom. Eg criticising the love is strange fangame team/threatening to inform dontnod/square because they were stealing their intellectual property.

To fully understand how dumb and hypocritical this is, note that she is a letsplayer.
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>>159715049
mari used to post here?
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>>159716149
Sure, but that stuff was well after the release of Episode 5. Most of our "involvement" with her was pre-Episode 3. We were already well and truly over her before any of that stuff.

>To fully understand how dumb and hypocritical this is, note that she is a letsplayer.

Yep. And I'm pretty sure she had done her own (or commissioned, I can't remember ... certainly *endorsed*) LIS fan-art as well.

Didn't she also go on some big rant about how Pricefield was a horrible relationship for various reasons (Chloe was obviously in a terrible place, kinda filling Max in as a surrogate Rachel; Max was similarly just finding herself, letting herself be pushed around by Chloe, blah, blah). I remember the laughs we had about that: most of us generally agreed with her point about the characters, but she had expressed it in such a matter-of-fact "I'm objectively correct" type manner that she basically got flamed off tumblr for it. Don't try to tell shippers what to do, I guess?

>>159716290
Yep. I can't remember when she stopped, but I'm pretty sure it was before (or shortly after) Episode 3 was released.
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>>159716654
was she at least a fun poster or anything?
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>>159716675
I don't remember too many of the specific conversations, it was over a year and a half ago. I just remember people complaining that she'd just keep injecting *herself* (and her gaming partner Stacy) into conversations about the characters and their motivations. I can't remember if she'd ever just hang around and shoot the shit (or cutepost with us) between these kinds of conversations. She might have? For all we know, she may have never left?

I don't think her posts were as bad as /lisg/'s general dislike for her suggests. If I remember correctly, she even agreed with some of the stuff we were saying about her continuing to over-analyse things. At the end of the day, she just kinda became a bit of a meme around here, and it was fun to gossip about her videos/drama during the later episodes.
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>>159716675
She was shitty post just as she is a shitty person
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>>159717227
Any time Mari agreed with something, she inevitably claimed that she had said it first, and had some sort of copyright to it. Then she'd raeg if she found someone else using 'her' theories, completely ignoring that others might have independently come up with the same theory, often before she did.
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>>159715049
>praising Mari
kys
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>>159718413

I'm not entirely sure this is the fairest way to characterise what was happening, at least not the cases I recall.

*The* specific case of this was in a Twitter thread where someone proposed an idea which Mari had already done a video about. I think they were already arguing with each other a bit, and in the limited space Mari had, she replied with something like "that's not YOUR idea, I already had that idea, see my video!" (I can't remember the exact wording, but it was basically like that, the exact wording was that it was Mari's idea, not this other posters.)

I think we mostly agreed that it was just a poor choice of words on Mari's part (she didn't mean to imply ownership on the idea, the person was just annoying her *and* wasn't aware that they were arguing on a topic Mari had already made a video about), coupled with twitter's character limit. She later corrected herself on what she meant too, IIRC.

Otherwise, she was usually pretty good about crediting other people when making videos about their ideas/theories (eg. that user on Reddit who noticed "weird" sounds coming from the building next to the light house; Mari asked for permission to make a video about that topic with appropriate credit).

(I don't mean to sound like the Mari defence squad here, just trying to give both sides as I remember it.)
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>>159715049
>>159716654
>>159718413

She was also making retarded theories and most of them were quotation from some various sites including here.In her stream,whenever she hears any sound from anywhere she says ''OMG I FOUND SOMETHING'' and her retarded fans were going crazy.

After she trolled this general she took screencaps and shared in her shitty blog.

You also forgot to mention she also said she wanted to threesome to make people mad/stir the shit up.So with that she proved that she's just a troll,bitch who's seeking people's attention.
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>>159715049
>But, eh, she's just a bit of a meme around here. I don't think any of us super hate(d) her or anything.
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>>159719074
>I don't mean to sound like the Mari defence squad here
What the hell are you talking about?
Seriously if I haven't been here since we've met with her and seen all of her bullshit I would believe all of these.You are not only sound like defending that attention whore but also trying so hard to look everything on the brightside.No.She's just a spoiled rat who is not even worth the mention.
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>mfw that sassy bitch has ruined anons' comfiness again
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>>159719330
>In her stream,whenever she hears any sound from anywhere she says ''OMG I FOUND SOMETHING'' and her retarded fans were going crazy.

This was certainly where she lost me. Her Episode 3 "things you might have missed" (or whatever it was called) video/stream was a total joke. Lots of spotting graphical glitches and trying to interpret them into the game, trying to over-interpret ambient sound effects, trying to interpret the school as impossible geography ... which was simply her not being able to read the school's map which she had walked past earlier, etc.

Otherwise, I can't remember the other things you mentioned. Then again, I don't think I ever went to her tumblr/blog page. The only stuff I think I remember about that side of things was when she got chased away for ranting about Pricefield, as I mentioned earlier >>159716654

>>159719516
I guess it's probably on a case-by-case basis. She certainly annoyed a lot of people, but I got the impression that we were more having fun laughing at the ridiculous stuff she was saying/doing (at least, after she had stopped posting here).

>>159719765
> ... but also trying so hard to look everything on the brightside.

Eh, maybe? I think I've been pretty fair to both sides here. I mean, I've otherwise agreed with everything negative everyone else has said about her in this discussion - and added a bunch myself. I just don't think she was ever this big force of evil. I think she just let her new-found popularity go to her head a bit, and she did a bunch of dumb - and funny - shit in the process. I certainly got my fair share of Mari-derived laughs.
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>>159706570
Is there actually a Warryn fandom on tubmlr or is it just a bogeyman? I know there is a huge unironic Caulscott faction but I haven't actually seen any pro-warryn stuff
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>>159521907
Chloe is really fucking ugly, compared to Max.
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>>159722665
Max is a cute but delete this
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>>159716654
I never agreed with her points on the characters and their relationship. And that's not even to do with "shipping", that's just because they are mischaracterizations of all three things: Max was not experimenting and trying to find herself sexually - she did inadvertently find herself, which is her love for Chloe... but it was never that "phase" Mari had from what I remember wanted to make it out as. The "pushing around" was also more of a pushing Max out of her shell, which she herself mostly enjoyed and was grateful for as she mentions multiple times in journal, monologue and dialogue alike. While Max was very secure in a lot of aspects of her character from the get-go, there were of course insecurities, which Chloe helped her overcome.

And Chloe not only had taken Max back in very much as Max, but, through Max, discovered that it was Rachel who was a sort of surrogate - a crutch and her infatuation with her largely a coping behaviour. Through Max and the week, Chloe overcame not only the "Rachel complex", but a lot of other shit as well; truly healing, leaving that "terrible place" behind in various regards.

So to characterize them and their relationship on grounds of their issues exclusively was never fair, just like it was not fair to say they shouldn't get together in the game because Rachel died. Yeah, that's just not how love works - especially and precisely if that love is powerful enough to overcome the deaths of loved ones through.

Realistically, their relationship is not "perfect". The narrative to me shows it to be, though.

But that's that one, understandably contentious topic, and I disliked her views and matter-of-factly presentation of such in that regard because I thought there might be a legitimate chance she influences dontnod.

>>159721819
I've seen a few instances then and again. But not anything I would classify as a "fandom". Not "huge" Caulscott factions either, but definitely more so than Warren. Hybristophilic girlboners.
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Election time!

Q1. Who should be Max Caulfield's love, now and forever? (Please select one of the following):
( ) Chloe E. Price
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>>159723884
And the results are in! Despite having one only one registered voter, and ballots opening a minute ago, Chloe Price has won with a resounding majority of 1,337 votes.
Poll Analysts attribute Price's victory to this cute little memer. Although thay are not sure how this many ballots suddenly appeared out of the blue.
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>>159723686
>>159720332
As for most of anything else, I agree with your general assessment of Mari. I've watched a fair few of her videos, thought some were reasonable, interesting even (and then obviously increasingly desperate for things to say), talked with her here on more or less constructive terms, even gave her the one or other material for her videos.

She just became a meme and between her incessant flaunting of her personality and personal life on 4chan and her questionable theories and behaviour in the context of this fandom, I'd dare say deservedly so.

But, as is the nature of a meme, they are crude exaggeration and misrepresentations for comedic effect.

>>159722665
Eh, that's an unfalttering photoshop dontnod did in a few seconds before they'd modeled their younger selves. Probably did it as half-assedly because they didn't want to model themselves into a corner. I could actually believe if this was merely a placeholder asset (although they never replaced it later even though it'd come up in the fandom at times, so maybe it wasn't just a mistake).

Chloe a pretty.

>>159723884
>>159724030
Now that's an election I can get behind and hype for!
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Max would make Arcadia Bay great again.
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>>159724290
I know there's that fic about Chloe becoming Mayor (It was both good and bad because it became preachy at times). But her and Max should run that town.
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>>159724205
There's something special and amazing about the crude crayon and pencil drawings.
Done by both kids and adults. They usually have vibrant colors and an adorable look with little details to distract the viewer. Like Max's and Chloe's drawings for their movies and dreams.
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Gotta go out and just keep my mind from obsessing all day. Relax, take some pictures, etc.
Stay comfy /lisg/!
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>>159724030
What plays into that is that they are an "innocent" perspective on the characters and the things they highlight. They seem honest because kids mostly only draw for themselves and what they really see or think, not thinking hard about anything or trying to please others/other motives.

Even when adults draw in that style, I often can't see anything but a "child's perspective" in the drawing itself.
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In the short term I can see the two travelling, not just to one city, but in general. There are lot's of ways to use time powers that would render money a none-issue, and many of them aren't even (technically) a crime. Betting for instance. Even two minutes rewind in a bookies is enough to make bank, and not sticking around and showing yourself to be too lucky removes any danger there, too. I can see them eventually getting an RV, after how much Chloe enthused, and living in it a while having adventures.
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>>159727591
Wherever they go, Chloe must also carry Max and Max must also sit on Chloe.

And they must also stare into each other's eyes lovingly and longingly, hold hands, kiss etc.

>>159728398
I could see them live on the road like that for a while too. Maybe for a year before they start college.

Might as well go all the way and have it actually be Frank's RV which he gave to them because he swore to live a better life after finding out what'd happened to Rachel and after the storm (or simply because he died. :v)).

Renovated, of course.
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>>159729005
>it's a "Kate trains Frank in the ways of virtuous living" episode
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>>159729194
I never understood how people exactly arrived there, but I'll take it.

Presumably the connection was first established at all when people had speculated whether his list's "Katie" could be her, which was obviously debunked but remained as a vague idea on whether they would know each other.

Make it an actual episode: Frank, after the storm, decides to live a better, more honest life and the one way he knows he could, and could help after the storm, is in a shelter for animals and pets lost or injured in the storm.

Kate obviously survived in the hospital, but Alice was not in her cage anymore. She goes searching and ultimately arrives at the shelter, where Alice had turned up safe and sound. Frank and Pompidou had also calmed her down and cleaned her up.

Out of gratefulness, Kate stays and helps in the shelter; they talk about the things they've experienced in that week, the realizations they've come to about themselves and others and bond over a mutual plan to change things in their life. Frankie, Katie, Pompi and Alice.
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>>159730946
That's so mean! :(
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What if Warren was a chick and looked like this when trying to hit on Max?
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>>159730946
>>159731125
Reminder that Chloe's "NO EMOJI" rule with regards to Max is merely self-protective; Max is too cute as is - Chloe dies a little inside from cuteness-overload every time Max uses an emoji.

Max makes her all mushy and softie as is, she must doth maintain a little of her punk persona and attitude.
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>>159731346
>a girl trying to hit on a boy

That doesn't happen in real life.
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>>159731346
>"Sensitive" usually means "won't be having sex with you"
She'd still be a pushy creep
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>>159731589
I didn't say Max was a dude. Everyone in the game is exactly the same except Warren is a girl.
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>>159731639
She would still not go ape with her.

The entire girls' dorm has the hots for Max and still she is exclusively, eternally with Chloe.
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>>159731125
awww
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>>159731125
Why does Chloe have a knife?
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>>159733069
To carve "Max + Chloe BFFGF Pirates 5EVER" into tree stumps. And kill emojis. Duh.
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>>159731346
Those colours look terrible on her.
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>>159729005
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>>159738487
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>>159586665
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>>159732262
This. Max and Chloe's love is much more than just due to gender or anything like that.
It boils down to the purest essence: Max and Chloe as ideas and personalities.
The physical aspects are just a plus.
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New thread

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>>159741952
>>159741952
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