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piltover edition

last bread >>159342254

>Important links
http://eyosongive.us/resources.php
>Patch Notes
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch
>Pre-season and assassin's stuff
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/preseason-2017
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Hey guys Morello here I just came here to say that we are reworking Irelia in season 2017.
I'll let you in one one of ter new mechanics which is her new ultimate Hiten Style and that while it is active all of Irelia's abilities deal true damage and heal her.

Oh and I'm also actively working to remove soraka from the game but that faggot ghostcrawler set whole dev team against me and they veto my idea every time.

Okay that's all bye.
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Lulu is best and cutest girl!
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xth for FUCK magic
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xth for booty
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kBemmGWwmY

>gbay99 outed as a pedo
>apparently there are dick pics and he has a huge cock

anyone got them (no homo ofc)
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ok so noone of u fags wanted a boost
thats ok
now where can I find people that need boost? is there a site or something?
Season is ending and I need some rp. If I dont do it soon i wont do it for a long time
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r8 my benta
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who hype for spacehulk deathwing here
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>>159375287
Godspeed, Morello. Get that cancergoat out of our game by any means necessary.
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>Turn around
>See this
What do?
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No wonder last thread was so shit.

Only 4 more days I guess.
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Dyrus are you ITT?
-Dyrus
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Sivir is cute! CUTE!!
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>>159375470
Maybe I can help with my porcelain rod
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>>159375383
why do you keep posting this?
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>playing sion top
>spend entire game post level 6 ulting mid lane and killing enemy twisted fate
>tf comes on in global chat telling me to get good
>stupid noob tank player doesnt actually know how to do anything
>ult on 39 second cooldown
>start just following tf around the map
>go 22/8/15
>mfw this is what passes for war
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>>159375470
that flash was a bit silly so 6/10
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>>159375293

DIE SCUM
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>>159375548
headbutt her
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>>159375374
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>>159375710
You just mad cuz she cuter than you.
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/soc/fags pls fucking go
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Tahm Kench needs a new skin.
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>>159375710
What happens if the ball leaves orianna's range mid-channel?
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>>159375963
Then we get to see some serious fucking shit
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>>159375963
probably just snaps back to you and you ult yourself
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anyone here got the support game?
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I outsmited a Plat V today. Still lost because I suck. Small victories though.
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ppl in my games are saying if you dont have full runes and masteries you fall behind when jungling is this true i would like to jungle at level 10 THANKS
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>>159375963
Ori would have to be displaced for that to happen since she can't move while casting the spell.
The ball probably finishes the cast and then snaps back to her.
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is it possible to get boxes on poro king?
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what division does khazix stop being good at
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>>159376276
jungle to your hearts content, young one.
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>>159376276
Yes, but if you play nunu you should be ok
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>>159376354
LCS division. Challenger Series games are shitshow-y enough that shitpicks can win if you're good with them.
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>>159376141
>Mfw im plat and I sometimes have games where I dont hit 200 cs in 35 minutes.

Maybe its just my playstyle, but we have a shitload of fights in my ranked games and not a lot of farming.
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>>159376354

gold probably

hes a total joke to handle mid lategame unless hes so fed you being near someone does not matter

one of the hardest champs to play in a teamfight because his whole damage relies on people being isolated so he can reset off them

nobody is fucking isolated lategame so hes basically a shit sin minus the utility
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post yfw you land your cc ability.
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So is pre-season ranked the best place to learn champs so I'm not against plats and golds as a low silver?
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>>159375163
>including the crackwhore

Please. Piltover is for style and elegance.
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hi
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>>159376628
yes/no
if you lose it still effects your mmr for when it soft resets next season
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>>159376529
Depends on your role but unless you're challenger or you're the carry on your team that game CS usually falls off pretty heavily after 20 minutes.
Masters.
I see Challenger players often separating to lanes to catch waves and get them pushing between objectives like pro teams do when lower elos would try to continue grouping on an objective that's not gonna happen for another minute or two.

You should at least be looking for 200 CS at 20 minutes. Beyond that it's up to what your team needs from you but if you can't get that you probably lost lane or suck at farming.
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>>159376576
what cc ability?
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>>159376745
bye
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>>159376825
Its weird cause, im pretty good at farming, like first 10 minutes I can easily get 100-110 cs, but like the moment we start contesting dragon and shit I just feel like, 5 minutes have passed, and suddenly my lane opponent has 30 cs over me despite him being down 30 cs. Like what.

And when IM the one down on cs, i can farm the whole game, and I still am down.
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>>159375463
bretty gud
seems like your team was already raping tho
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Holy fuck Remilia is shit, even for LAS level.
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>>159376567
No

i know someone who only plays kha in master elo with a high kda

he is rly hard to play right now because only his counters are mostly picked like elise or lee

but still very strong with his isolated damage
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post your theme for climbing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb7sN7axblc
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>>159377202
>OTPs going pro

Everytime

One Trick ponies for you fags out there
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>>159377020
Sounds like you have trouble determining when objectives are directly being contested and when you need to make a pit stop in a lane.
I'm not higher elo than you so my word shouldn't be taken as law but if you see a lane pushing towards your side go up there and clear a wave or two.
If nothing else is immediately going to happen, like if people are doing the vision dance around mid/drag/baron, then just go to a free lane and grab a couple waves and walk back to your team.
This is especially important on ADC and mid where falling behind in CS means your team is lacking some of the damage it may need to actually win the fights before the effect people's ults had on the fight wear off and it's just a brawl that either side could win.
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>>159377080
>down in kills and towers

Doesn't seem it.
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>>159375552
Thank god it's almost over. We'll have to deal with the death throes of his campaign's failure for a while but then it will finally, FINALLY subside.
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>>159376529
You're actively not farming, giving yourself potentially 1000s worth of Gold deficit. If you aren't farming that means others at the same skill also aren't farming. There's no reason to be that far under "perfect" CS.
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>>159377202


LINK
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>>159375548
Apologize and tell her she has the wrong person. Her eyes are closed, so she must have confused me someone else.

What are some solid supports this patch? Are leona and blitzcrank still fun picks?
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just watched breaking point

9/10 would recommend

fenix is so god damn likeable. i love this guy.
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>In promos for G4
>Get secondary of top
>Lane opponent is Plat fucking 3
>Boosting some shit support
>Tell team this top is boosting their support and I'm about to get shit on
>They spew rank doesn't matter
>At 20 minutes he's 15-0 from roaming
>Tell them we need to FF and save time
>"jus build armor meme"
>At 45 minutes we get aced and lose
>The wu finished 24-1
>Tell team we coulda ff'd at 20 and saved 15 minutes
>They all flame me for having a bad attitude
>Your attitude lost you lane not him being better if you had confidence you coulda won

Is this why people feed so fucking hard, this "If I have confidence I can win lane against someone who is clearly better" meme? Holy fuck, how is it fair to put a plat 3 against a bunch of gold fucking 5's.
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Why is darius allowed to be bullshit and invalidate so many top laners?
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>>159375163
Why do they always exclude the best piltover?
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>>159377080

riven dies to trynd top 1v1, died again and lost both towers she was basically losing us the game solo

mid was doing ok but only because she ks'ed all the kills like a fucking nigger, still got shat on by malz 1v1 because akali is total trash

bot lane was losing 2v2, with the usual hecarim runs into lane and gets free kills because people dont notice le pony going past two wards while trading

i was extremely lucky they decided to group 5 for a random fucking wind drake rofl

also the bitching in chat is basically me getting frustrated because the nami was being "we got this xD" while doing fucking nothing productive all game, no wards, no ults nothing just eating shit with her ezreal fuccboi having 0 impact

this webm just shows how fucking insane wukong is, that was AGAINST lulu with exhaust which is a turbo hardcounter since exhaust cucks me as it is and if you put her le hugefiii xddd cancer on top its impossible to kill a priority target

i got lucky the lulu was total trash, she can singlehandedly shut down wukong all game long

>>159377217

maybe its my wukong bias speaking since I can literally force kha to not deal his full damage with decoy but I feel like every khazix I meet does very well early and then just falls off the face of the earth at 20-30 after 1 teamfight

there is no winning with that shit champ, its like lee sin : you need to build damage to deal damage but doing so makes you instantly blow up if you do even 1 tiny mistake and in teamfights you are basically just walking gold

with khazix its even worse because he cant go full tank like lee after 1 item and have all the utility in his kit

I guess exhaust and supports cuck him ultra hard and its only getting worse because they are fucking buffing supports in the "assassin" update along with nerfing khazix for some reason

rest in peace
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>>159377541
Just lost 0 - 3 against a shit team and doing absolutely nothing those 3 matches
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>>159377727
>>Your attitude lost you lane not him being better if you had confidence you coulda won

they're partially right, you could've used this opportunity to see if your skill level is at the same level or even higher, but since you saw >le plat 3 you started to play like shit.
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>>159377727
The only physical, tangible difference between you and your lane opponent was your ranks.
Nothing prevented you from playing that lane the correct way to win it, or at least not lose it.

Your teammates are retarded though, he's higher ranked for a reason. Confidence isn't going to magically make you know how to lane perfectly.
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>>159377758
>S6 almost S7
>Bitching about post nerfed reworked darius

git gud
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>>159377727
There really isn't much difference between mid plat and low gold, especially in lane. Goldies should have at least some laning mechanics, the difference that gets you to higher elo is more understanding of map movement and decision making.

You were definitely capable of winning the lane, you just let yourself get psyched out and lost
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>>159375163
someone in silver wanna get boosted? some friends playing with a dude in bronze but we have only 2 smurfs on silver
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>>159378138
I do
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>>159377919
Is Orianna a person?
Does she have legal rights?
She and Blitz are the first of their kind.
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>>159377758
>pick a ranged champion
>win
So hard!!!
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>>159377952
Kha could always go the silver strat since they're an assassin and be a frontline tank, making the enemy waste their time focusing you.
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>>159378187
[email protected]

send info here
you can change password in you want
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>>159377727
This is a very good reason NOT to look up the rank of your opponent.

I've lost lanes to silvers because I think "oh they're just silver I don't have to try that hard." And then suddenly I gave first blood like a retard

I've seen diamonds get fucked by silvers because the diamond player was playing some shit character and the silver was on their main. Always respect your opponent but never be so afraid that you're useless.
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>>159378032
I also saw that he was boosting the support and had all wins.
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>>159377758
darius is complete shit who are you playing into him?
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>bans lane dominant champions like riven and gnar
>I know he's a gayboy who can't handle having his boipuss pressured
>pick illaoi
>literally become a god and 4vs1 these cucks
Illaoi is so fucking FUN, but I know sooner or later she's getting gutted by punshing people for being bad
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>>159377727
having confidence doesn't automatically wins your lane
but having the "I WILL lose this lane because he's better than me" mentality does automatically loses your lane

that's just how it works
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>>159378036
>Confidence isn't going to magically make you know how to lane perfectly
No but lacking confidence will let you miss out on opportunities that you otherwise wouldn't have. It's better to play aggressive most of the time than not. People don't do this enough. Playing aggro can be the difference between knowing you'll live with 10hp and won't need to Flash vs underestimating damage and dying with your Flash up.
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>>159378190
Blitz has legal rights if you go by the old lore.
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>>159377952
They're buffing Kha's damage and survivability.
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>HoTS gets Varian Wrynn and Ragnaros
>We get a shitty version of an Ent

Why is this allowed?
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Anybody else enter the zone while playing league? It was a weird experience. Not sure how to feel about it. I've heard about it happening to athletes, but not to people playing an online video game.
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>>159378437
I unfortunately fucked up and picked trundle. The lane didn't go remotely well for me and I couldn't even farm. He was also shit but darius' entire kit just fucked me.
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>>159378324
I always look up my opponents so I can see how they're doing on X champ so I know how to play against them. Top being my secondary role and the fact this guy was prob smurfing meant it was lost from the get go. No amount of "muh confidence" would have won me lane.
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>>159377727
>convinced you lost from the start
>don't even try to win
Well yeah it kinda is your fault.
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>>159378574
Adrenaline rush is a universal feeling anon, anyone can experience it with the correct stimuli
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Even: Number of times you can have sex with Sona

Odd: Number of times Ahri will have sex with (You) (pegging)
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>>159377919
Man, I love this kind of shit. Seeing champions interact with each other outside of league, being friends just hanging around.

I mean, can you imagine a conversation between Orianna and Idk Aurelion sol? It would be great.
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>4 vs 5
>team votes no to every single surrender vote

Fuck these people. They're even worse than intentional feeders or the people who rage quit. Riot should permaban anyone who does this shit.
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>>159378574
Only when my favorite song comes on at the right time at the right moment on pandora
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>>159378525
>Varian Wrynn and Ragnaros
more like generic warrior and generic lava golem
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>>159378190
She probably does, since Cait and Vi let her stay in Piltover. Meanwhile, Jinx, who neither lives or was born in Piltover, is consistently included in these types of pics
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>>159378717
8 please

can l refuse the offer or run if l get a even number?
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>>159378606
>Darius counters trundle
I know who I'm picking every time someone picks him now.
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>>159378762
Often times people who do this are just playing a champion or role they really enjoy even if they're not winning the game so they don't want it to be over.
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>>159378717
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>>159376730
That's the best joke I've ever read here.
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>>159378902
>>159378469
trundle can't handle burst or non stop hard harass
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>>159378871
No

Don't worry is like when you take a shit but the other way around
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is elitepvpers a good site if u want to boost people
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>>159378857
>She probably does, since Cait and Vi let her stay in Piltover.
I agree she probably does but this is pretty baka reasoning desu, senpai.

If she's a person of course she can stay, she's a person.
If she's just a machine with no rights then of course she can stay. They're not gonna kick all the turrets and shit out of Corki and Heim's shop because they're non-sentient robots.
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>>159378717
high number please
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>>159378992
Well yes, Jinx is league's funniest joke.
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>>159379034
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>>159378902
tryn also dicks on him, i recommend flash over ghost in that case as you can easily get level 2 cheese on him and youll need flash to match his
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>>159378606
you serious? trundle is just about the only melee champ aside from shen that can handle darius
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>>159379141
great 41
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>>159379251
>Trynd
yeah but I like to be able to teamfight sometimes with my toplaners
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Is Mantis Man K6 a jungle or a top lane? I feel like he'd do great top lane.
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Is teemo an easy top?

Should I build him ap or on-hit?
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>>159378983
guess im getting boned
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>>159379369
on hit and piss off any top laner you go against
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>>159379175
Yes, I do find her putting every other wiafu to shame quite amusing.
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>>159379315
can you please stop with your fucking
avatarfagging

>>159379317
jungle
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I love Lissandra!
AMA
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>>159379272
this niga correct
trundle is the best melee 1 v 1 champ
urgot for ranged
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I wish dyrus was here so I could ask him a question
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>>159379369
He's only useful against noobs. He tilts some people off the face of the earth but he's super easy to counter.

You either build Teemo as a mage-assassin or a duelist. Mage assassin Teemo rushes magic penetration (Liandry's into sorc boots, void staff) while Duelist teemo does on-hit with gunblade, mallet, nashors, lichbane etc.
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>>159378717
yolooo
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I've had good results with Morde into Trundle

Just sayin
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>>159378717
9 pls
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>>159379487
Just report him. He was politely informed of the rule and he didn't stop.
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>>159379471
>Le randum tumblrina Crackwhore
>Better than anyone else in league

Fucking lulu is a better waifu and lulu's a kid whose face looks like ass.
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>>159379487
>>159379760
>backseat modding
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>>159379272
>Only melee

Uhh morde?
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>>159379568

>urgot for ranged

literally what?

Any adc shits on him mid or late game. So does Kayle.
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>>159379979
But Darius players told me Morde is his single easiest match up.
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>>159379762
>tumblrina
what do you mean by this
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is jhin physically strong or just very cunning
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>>159377380
>>159375552
It will be hilarious, if he wins tbqh.
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>tfw garbage at csing
>like 200 cs at 40 min BAD
>really good at decision making
>play tf so the passive helps me keep up with players who arent trash

man I feel like Id get higher than where I am now if I got better at csing but I just cant get good at it no matter how many custom games I play
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>>159380131
maybe im just a biased urgot main but noone beat me 1 v 1
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>>159379568
neither of those are true
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>>159380213
If anything it's a skill match up. If your darius you better hope and pray to kill morde before he gets his rylais
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Is morde jungle good in plat 1?

Wanna get D5 asap and dont have any junglers?`

Do you guys have the runes for me?
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How does Darius lose to Morde 1v1? Especially early game when Darius can proc his passive? Legit can't see it but I'm not too sure how Morde's kit works either with the healing and shielding.
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>>159380280
cs the enemy champions with your good decision making :^))
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>>159380241
Nothing. He's literally just vomiting as many memes as he can.
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how often do you get shafted out of the role you queue for
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>>159380475
>>159380241
>Jinxfags mad their waifu is literally dogshit-tier.
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will the lethality change kill pantheon?
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>>159380384
unless the enemy team is clinically retarded then no.
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>>159380245
His bullets are infused with magic, and his weapon is a hand cannon.
He's probably not physically strong since he needs his oddly designed poncho to absorb the kickback from his weapon.
He is more cunning due to the fact he would rather dispose of his foes beautifully and with meaning (lotus traps, FOUR) rather than just straight shooting them down.
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>>159380254
It will be hilarious both ways
>hillary wins
>trump supporters lose their collective shit and everybody makes fun of them
>trump wins
>fearmongering liberals acting as if the world fucking ended and everybody makes fun of them

but still i'm glad it'll be over
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Cutelu update when?
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Does twitch have the best visual update Riot will ever do?

It's me! Hahahahaa!
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>>159380306

Maybe you are lel.

Also i see people take TLD on him over DFT. Why?
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>>159380420
>thats how I got to gold 3

tho I think im stuck cause I keep getting other roles other than mid and Im not comfortable on anything else

my past two games I played TF top against a swain and a riven, won both games tho cause swain and riven dont have enough damage to kill tf pre 6 and then I just rush a seekers/negatron into roa
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>>159380586
I saw someone here who is D3 with only morde jungle with a 70% winr i think
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>>159380568
pantheon is already shit vs people who just avoid what he does
so gold or higher
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>>159380562
>Still meming
I be you like sona you swallow and pedantic plebeian.
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>>159380384
Ap quints, scaling health yellows, ap pen reds, MR or ap blues. Get the base blue smite and rush rylais first. Then you can finish your jg item. From there it's up to you on what you want to buy. I usually like going nashors full ap but it's really up to you and what the situation is looking like. Btw have SRS and ghost pref
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>>159380407
Morde and Darius are the same type of champ.

They both LIVE to all-in the other guy and are prone to getting kited.

Darius' passive provides him with a bleed and a n AD steroid that favours long trades and makes people overcommit to fights and they try to run only for it to be too late.

Morde's passive and W provide him with massive hidden tankiness, and his Q's growing damage per strike and W's back loaded heal means all of his opponents overcommit and only try to run when it's too late.

Morde versus Darius is a skill match up that basically boils down to who gets the first kill, which boils down to who gets level 3 first for the all in.

Morde has the advantage if Darius tries to play passively because he has better range and E harass is super obnoxious poke.
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>>159380637
TLD works well against squishes/early game burst
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>>159380557
Not that much, even tho I play mid and top.
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>>159380726
meanwhile in diamond
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>>159375463

>Warrior, Ionians, Youmuu's AND Cleaver

Think you might have a bit too much CDR there mang.
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>>159380778
>Implying I waifu anyone from this crap game.

How much of a mental retarded scumfuck do you have to be to... oh wait you like jinx nevermind. That explains it. Shit I just cursed at a handicapped person I feel bad
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>>159380726
yea
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>>159380557
i get top 9/10 times, i queue as mid secondary
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>>159380407
Mordekaiser has ridiculous sustain
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I feel like somewhere down the road one of my losses gave me PTSD. I just realized I'm constantly in desperation mode no matter the situation forcing me to do stupid shit because I feel like I have no options. If I don't 20-0 every game I'm going to lose, and I lose some of those 20-0 games.
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>>159380936
>50% meaning anything when 10% of it comes from warrior
he needs his flash up as much as possible, cdr is so ridiculously abundant that going a bit over isn't a problem anymore.
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>>159380905
just stay out of range and farm with q its the easiest thing if youre not stupid

if they walk foreward you walk backward

they HAVE to blow flash in order to get close to you and then you just use yours and its easy

tho talking to a hillary supporter obviously you dont understand basic things
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>>159380936
Shut up idiot he needs all 3 of the AD items for damage primarily and CDR second and he needs Ionians specifically for the summoners CDR DUH!
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>>159380957
>ebony booty clap

heh.
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>>159380781
dont you go hextech gun?

Do you play him much?
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>>159380791

Yeah, that makes sense. I actually find that pretty common about a lot of bruiser match ups being more about skill and how you play around your own strength and against theirs. But too bad top lane is full of cancer now.
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>>159380637
really easy to proc with e + 2 qs
maybe i shouldve mentioned i play him top
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>>159380245
He's in shape, actors and dancers kind of have to be, but it's more lean than actual strength.

He's confirmed to be pretty intelligent and cunning though, and extremely magical gifted; like on a prodigal level.

He hand-crafts his own bullets, which incorporate his chi-essence magic. So when he's saying "each shot is a piece of my soul. Each shot is a piece of me." he means it both metaphorically and literally. He also crafted his mask with his own magic.

IIRC, Riot said his natural affinity for magic is so strong that they hinted he could become a literal demon or something, if he keeps straying down the path he does (which means his legendary will probably be a demon skin or somethig.)

But tldr, not physically strong, but magically strong and very crafty and intelligent.
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>>159381071
That's comedic Gold, Gold as in your elo.
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>>159375163
who is the guy at right? viktor?
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>>159380596
Yeah, true. Either way we get a fun shitstorm for a few days then it's over with. I can't wait. And the season ends. November is going to be lit.
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>>159375163
In this picture Jayce looks just like that head honcho guy from the Water 7 arc in One Piece. Can't remember his name
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>>159380835
>>159381114

Doesn't DFT add up more over time and the tree itself is better with the armor pen and increased damage?
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even pokemon has more pick variety than this shit game holy fuck
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>>159381295
Thats Ezreal, man
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as long as you talk about me

or say my name

i will be here
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>>159381295
That's Ezreal...

Viktor's from Zaun (then again so is Jinx but eh.)
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>>159380957
>>159380859
i mean there's always those faggots who know every nuance of a champion and lane match ups
not really surprising, still a shit champion overall
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>>159381378
>Landorus-t in 30-40% of the matches

Yeah, nah.
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>>159381378
>Competitive Pokemon
>More pick variety than league
That's bullshit and you know it.
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>>159381321
never trierd it but i prefer flat pene tree early
+ armor pene runes
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Normals are pretty much sure wins with my 2x4 all I desire is ranked, it's the only place she belongs

I'll always wanna hold Jinx's hand
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>>159381465
>this champion doesnt work above gold
>people who know the champion can make it work above gold
????
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are pikachu and slowpoke competitive?
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>>159381086
Well not jg too much but I have a 63% win rate with 190 games played. Like I said you can build whatever after rylais
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Just got the messages from on-high.

New champion is an assassin.
They're trying the entire "hunter" jungler angle again, only this time they're not gonna make the same mistakes as Nidalee and Rengar (which means they totally are of course).

He has traps, he has vision denial/ward+trap destruction in the form of autonomous scouting drones, he has camouflage (not stealth), he has a super obnoxiously long DoT which also reveals you on the minimap and gives him an MS boost towards you, and he's built for counterjungling on top of that with a pseudo-smite like Nunu.
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>>159381668
use your brain, you can do it
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>>159381378
>every team has the new cancer rayquaza or else its shit

no it doesnt you fucking lair

you can build any champion any way you want and win with it with enough skill its just EASIER to play them with the optimal items

t. tf jungle main
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>>159381682
im scared playing him in jungle, because i always face a lee or olaf
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>>159381378
OU does because Smogon bans everything they don't like and the players are left to pick up the pieces I say that but it's fairly healthy
VGC 2016 is one of the worst metas in history. There were like 10 total competitive picks.
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>>159381668
>>this champion doesnt work above gold
it's a retarded statement desu

the only level where a certain champion may not work it's e-sport
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why haven't nipons reached a single championship yet? l thought league was released there like 2 or 3 years ago
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>>159381791
isn't rayquaza banned in every form of competitive or is that just mega rayquaza?
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>>159381321
Yes because DFT scales with bonus ad and urgot is pure dmg man who focuses on triggering DFT with Qs
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>>159381896
Japanese are only competitive at rhythm games.
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I-i'm sorry..............
please don't kill me........................
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>>159381926
Why is rayquaza so broken?
I stopped playing pokemon after leaf green
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>>159381896
League isn't very popular in Nippon.
They only got a new dedicated serious server for Nippon recently.
Nippon isn't the same as Korea, they're paradoxical in nature where they'll play super casual games like Kancolle and Mobage garbage but play it religiously and blow shit loads of dosh on it.
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>>159381794
Just play some normals till you get it down
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>>159381896
Japs don't like PC games. And the few that do prefer their otaku focused MMOs because they're otaku.
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>>159381679
Maybe NU tier.
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>>159381791
I like TF Jungle but I don't know seems pretty risky in this meta.
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I finally hit my plat promos and I'm looking to win tonight

Will give an update later guys

I've had to fight through comebacks for the last few wins I felt like I earned that last ~60 lp
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>>159382049
I think it's cause he has the highest attack speed in the game.
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>>159376576
can you imagine how terrifying Ivern might actually be to witness on the fields?

>comrade next to you gets a branch/tentacle wrapped around his leg and dragged off into the brush
>you chase him but cant find him in all the over growth
>call his name but hear no answer
>hear rustling in the brush and try to find your way back out but cant because of sudden vegatation
>see glowing yellow eyes staring at you
>yfw
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>>159381896
Nips don't care about games unless if it has waifu shit in it.

Hell, they don't even care about actual video games anymore, just smartphone apps.
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>was in promos earlier
>first game has someone getting boosted on other team
>lost promos
>second game of the day had a nasus who fed a renek and was 1/12 by the end of the game

Going to be a great day i see.
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>>159381896
>Japan
>multiplayer games
Kek
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>>159381896
too busy masturbating to cell phone games and kanmusume
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>>159381679
slowbro is actually pretty fucking strong
pikachu is shit
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>>159382056
It's because the way the system works lets them blow a lot of money. Also mobages are addictive. Sometimes you fine yourself spending like a hundred bucks just to get the cute unit you want in like ten minutes.
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>>159381941
>urgot is pure dmg man who focuses on triggering DFT with Qs
I hope this is sarcasm
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>>159381896
Hardly anyone in Japan owns a personal computer. They do all their internetting no their phones. Gaming in Japan has always been dominated by consoles, handheld or TV-based. Now though everything is shifting into mobile games because of the aforementioned "everybody does all their shit on their phone" thing.
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>>159382151
LoL has waifushit though
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>>159381802
OU actually has pretty good diversity IMO. Most pokemon that aren't just outright terrible for some reason are usable if you know how to play and work with them.
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>Syndra permabanned
When are they nerfing this piece of shit?
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>>159382225
God I can't wait for in-app purchases to become outlawed in their entirety.
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>>159382320
waito piggu western waifus
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>>159382112
don't forget a shadow that overtakes your whole figure as it casts upon you, and you cock your head to only see daisy and her fist coming to smash down on you.
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>>159381569
>>159381586
>olaf and syndra in 100% of the matches
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>>159382370
When le reddit tells them to
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>>159381896
>tfw nipons will never reach a championship and use unsual lcs champions that resemble them such as yasuo or yi
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>>159382320
they gave every female champ a deep old hag voice

japs can't fap to that shit
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>>159382320
>having a waifu
>having a shit tier no dimensional League waifu
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>>159382414
still not anywhere as bad as vgc16 lad
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>>159379760
Here have a post without a stitch image.
I didn't stop simply because I can't find myself to be bothered to give a shit, honestly.
Was kinda hoping to respond in a way that didn't sound like a complete dickwad, but I just don't really get it.
For instance, this wasn't even an issue until recently and I've been doing it for weeks before that, what gives.
And second of all aren't people like lissfag, lulufag, and even the bro champ posters like azir, graves and the like avatarfagging as well?
Pretty sure they've been doing it longer than I've even been on this fucking general.
Is it because they post less frequently? Post stuff other than with their "avatar" image? Because their images are league related?
There's a lot of specifications I feel like I'm not getting here, so be I retarded or not, I don't get it. The rule is there yes but for the most part it seems fairly overlooked.
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>>159382360
I didn't get nearly as into Gen 6 OU as Gen 5 but a lot of UU mons were pretty bad in OU in Gen 5.
I agree that OU is pretty diverse though. The usage lists for OU usually go to like 50 places or something.
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Also I want to know the full backstory of Ivern, I need the explanation of his bloodthirsty conquering days. Just think if he went to war back then with Tryndamere or Aatox holy shit storyfags please.
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>>159382112
we need a champion to deal with such a monstrosity like ivern!

>>159382514
>anything in anime/vidya/cartoons/genre fiction/movies (except art movies) etc
>having any dimension
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>>159382514
who /uplifting motivational trump videos here/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIn_7LVJl0
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>>159382094
keep me up
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>>159382087
I use to run scaling armor yellows but that always left me really weak during my first clear so I opted for flat armor and now my clear is really fast

you need to know howwork with your base damage cause bloodrazor SUCKS

god I miss the first devourer with just flat on hit damage and the sweet sweet ranger's trailblazer

but once you get your 3 damage items you can full to 0 most champions if they dont have a qss or other cc breaks

red smites on hit effect mercs nerds too
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>>159381896
All japanese teams commit seppuku after losing an important game. That's why you don't see them. They all die sooner or later
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>>159382618
first he chop niggas for coin
then he chop trees for lulz
then tree said 'no' and made mr chop into a tree
now mr chop/tree has pet rock to smash foes with
ivern the green papa
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>>159382618
riot has a shit lore
they've been saying about the invasion of Ionia since 2009 and we never had a comic of it, we just know it went really bad
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>riot's idea of aesthetics for the client update is taking away all of the words from everything and making you hover over pictures

well that's retarded. the rune pages are especially awful. what were they thinking?
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>>159382112
Also imagine how terrifying it would be if skins were a thing on the rift and you see this fucking monstrosity of candy and cupcakes and donuts holy shit
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>>159382618
ivern can hug my pelvis with his legs any day
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>>159382725
Yeah I know it works. Personally, I prefer to build him like vayne but with bloodrazor>RFD> Botrk usually I just don't like the current jungle it's so shit for a lot of champions.
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>>159382835
Agreed. Just because it's shiny doesn't mean a clusterfuck of icons and images acts as a good client.
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>>159382320
Yes but most of League's women aren't the uguu teenage moeblob idol shit that Japan generally loves.
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>>159382568
>And second of all aren't people like lissfag, lulufag, and even the bro champ posters like azir, graves and the like avatarfagging as well?
Yes. They are and they should be reported too.

You can also stop crying, this isn't about someone not liking your brand of avatar.

Its a cut and dry rule violation. If you wish to educate yourself more on what is and isn't an avatar direct yourself to the feedback page and search "avatar."
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we should be getting teasers for the next champion in about 2 to 3 weeks right
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Welp my attempt at getting gold this season is done. Dropped a division after losing a game where I did more damage as support Janna than my adc. What a fantastic game huh. Just get good right? Fuck this season.
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How is lethality going to affect pantheon?
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>>159382743
Most of the lore isn't shit, there 's actually a ton of potential going for it.

The problem is that Riot doesn't do shit with it. We still don't have full champ bios in the actual fucking game client.
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>>159383110
>is a champion who builds arpen items and shits on squishies going to be affected by the removal of flat arpen
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>>159383103
The issue with this season is dynamic Que fucking everything and everyone who didn't abuse it.
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>>159382856
don't forget daisy hugs

>>159382743
yeah, don't remind me :/ there lore could go so far and be so good if they gave a shit

>>159382740
green tall weed papa

>tfw as resident tall green weed papa otp no one asks me for tips
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>>159382320
Japanese otaku want teenage schoolgirl waifus to fuel their fantasies of reliving their school lives with the affections of a cute girl because their actual school lives are/were unfulfilling.
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>>159382835
riot is shit at graphical design

what they did with their forums it's just awful, now they do the same shiny shit to their client
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>>159382921
rfc sucks, go wits end instead

that gives you a solid mix of magic damage from wits ends on hit, your w, your e, and regular damage botrks active, and bloodrazor, botrk, and fervor

the current jungle is actually pretty cool for me, as long as you know how to kite and use the krunks smite buff you can walk around in the jungle freely, the only real trouble you have is with early ganks cause of your lack of raw damage but if your laners know what theyre doing its usually a free kill

im scared that the new jungle changes might kill jungle tf for good since we wont have that krug buff anymore for the early clear
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>>159383168
i said how not is
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>>159383110

Nerf his ability to snow ball but will give him stats to not fall off post 20 minutes if he didn't get ridiculously far ahead
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>Playing top
>I guess I'll play Sion I haven't really played him but people say he's really fun
>vs toplane Ekko and Jungle Ivern
>Yell at Ekko and poke him out of lane
>Ivern calls out Daisy
>Yell at Daisy and she smacks into Ivern for half his health
>Ult+Qing into other lanes for FREE (free) kills
>Enemy team /ff's at 20

You guys weren't just memeing around
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>statikk shiv is multitarget
>RFC is single target
>statikk shiv is almost literally double the damage of RFC


??? lolbabs?
>>
So, let me guess.
Another pre-season and riot still hasn't implemented "crippled" mechanics that hinders mobility abusers?

Of course not. That would make too much sense.
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>>159383362
Attack range is the best stat in the game, especially when stacked.
Also Statikk is more than double because it can crit.
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>>159383103
>play Heimer top
>set up shooty thingy at evil forest top side camp
>kill it
>get to lane in time
>push for early 2
>nade them and shooty thingy next to them to chunk
>shove like a motha
>all in at 3 with ig
>hit that early 6
>all in again with rockets
>be unkillable in 1v1 and capable of 1v2ing
Pshh nothing personnel if you don't listen kid.
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>>159383362
you forgot
>rfc allows you to take turrets with adcs that suck at sieging
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>when people get personally offended you didn't feed with them
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>>159383439
they put it on 1 hero and forgot about it
>>
anyone wanna duo q on normals? on NA
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>>159383539
Anon, no ADCs suck at sieging that's what MAKE them ADCs.
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>>159383617
Just for normals? Sure.
Add me, ign: HungryMoth
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>>159383110
It's somewhat of a nerf
the Lethality formula is different from the flat arpen but weaker as it's only better if your behind
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/vg/ vs /vg/
na
+6
vidya
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>>159383571
technically 2...!
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>>159383663
Sure, just walk up to a turret as Sivir and have fun trying to spellshield everything they throw at you, until Syndra presses R and you die.
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>>159383740
added :^)
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>>159383663
What is Vayne?
Jhin used to be pretty trash at it before his fourth shot did bonus damage to turrets
>>
Has Contest Guy dropped any news about Lulu's pic yet?
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>>159377562
Leona making a comeback against all the zyra/MF type shit
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>Caitlyn can't drop traps within X amount of units of other traps
Did I fix it?
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>>159383569
>When you're support and see the ADC doing some stupid shit, then get blamed you didn't dive them in their tower range

I mean, you could've just played it safe and cleared the wave like a none boosted animal but ya know, whateves
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>>159383571
Grounded and Crippled aren't exactly the same thing.

Crippled would still allow you to use mobility effects but they'd be less effective. A dash or blink would only have half their normal range if used for example.

Back to grounded though I wish they'd go back and apply it to other, older champs.
Singed's W should be a grounded effect.
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>>159384096
>remove MS slow on Exhaust
>it now cripples
BRILLIANT
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>>159383439
>shitting on assassins even more
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>Top picks AD Soraka
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>Dom getting rekt on Poki stream by some teenage cuck
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>>159384004
>Playing Best Lich
>Enemy jungler ganks midlane at level 3
>Alright that was weird, but I'm a Karthus, I'll just chill near tower and farm up and play safe. I have the better waveclear so I can keep the wave frozen near my tower
>Jungler comes back for a second gank
>Then a third gank
>I'm just in farm mode not going too out of my way to get farm because I know I'm immobile and will die if the jungler collapses on me without my flash up
>Next thing I know I'm level 7 and Jungler is level 4

Is that really so hard? Do people really have to keep mindlessly pushing to tower when they have realized they're being camped by the jungler?
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>>159383823
Who's the second?
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>>159381378
Uh yeah
I couldn't find a worse quality pic sorry
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>>159384914
Cass has a grounded too, not just Poppy.

Taliyah does too actually.
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How do you people put up with leveling your smurf?

I played like 5 games today and its a fucking chore. Retarded new players, retarded smurfs, more flaming than in fucking gold rankeds...

What the hell?
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>>159384991
Not really taliyah, you can still dash over her mines but they do a bunch of damage if you do.

Techinically Anivia has it if you're really good with your wall. Throwing it up right under someone when they're dashing will cancel it, trundle's pillar might do the same thing
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>>159384991
Poppy doesn't have a ground. Her w stops one dash and you can still flash. Grounded disables all mobility skills including flash for the entire duration.

Taliyah does not have a grounded effect either.
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>>159385124
embrace the goofy games
talk some shit
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>>159384434
As a Soraka main, this always makes me want to just cry.
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>>159384469
who and who?
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>>159382049

Not rayquaza, Mega rayquaza, which is a new gimmick in the latest generation I believe

He's a significantly better sweeper than anything else, he's decently bulky, he has a great movepool, he would be played 100% if he was in ubers. He has his own tier just so people don't need to deal with him
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>Pick Sion because he's fun to play and I'm tired of Trundle
>Enemy picks Malz
>My jungler's Nunu and literally never ganks

I couldn't even sit under tower cos the enemy Lee was premade. That matchup is a fucking nightmare.
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>>159385260
The thing is I dont enjoy talking shit unless Im mad af, and i dont really care about these games, I just want non retarded teammates so I can have decent games. I dont care about losing.
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>>159384991
>Taliyah does too actually.
She punishes anyone who moves in her W, but it is not a grounded effect.
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>>159385297
Iwilldominate got rekt by some teenager with relationship problems on Pokimane's stream, old man
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sexualize

yordle

boys
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>>159385297
>being so new you dont know who iwilldominate is
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>>159384434
>top pick Sona
>build her full AP and win lane
i keep seeing a solo lane Sona in high elo streams and she's always doing great
is Sona a viable solo laner?
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>>159385925
Post all of devil teemo
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>>159382152
>3rd game had unranked chinese duo in it that's only goal was to feed

Lets see how far I can fall today. Maybe if I get lucky I can tank my MMR all the way to bronze, maybe even get demoted, then I'll have people that actually at least khow to fucking play the game.


I regret getting to gold, all my games in bronze 3 were much better than this shit fest.
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>>159386081
Ive never seen that other than Dyrus literally trolling the shit out of a Garen.

We just won, literally because their Talon and Jhin went full retard.
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>>159386084
all my devil teetos are too lewd for this christian imageboard
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>>159386081
No. No she isn't.

No waveclear, aura effect is wasted, sustain in lane costs too much mana.

She can work because high elo players can play retard picks and stomp with them.
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>>159386286
Post every single one you have.
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>>159386081
literally everything is viable in solo queue
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>>159386483
>>159386304
i see
this is the person i'm talking about btw

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/45981481#matches

they seem to be doing really great with solo lane sona, even taking her into hard matchups such as darius and yasuo
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>>159386483
Even Soraka jungle?
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>>159386728
i saw a soraka top with bloodlust beat a jax and kill him under tower twice last night, so id think even soraka jung could work
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>google image 'gragas cosplay'
>one of the top images is kaceytron

lamo
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>>159386725
>using lolking when op.gg exists
For literally what purpose
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>wake up
>see this
wat do
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holy shit sorry /vg/ vs /vg/ lads

i didnt mean to afk something really important came up

i will kick myself next game apologizes
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>>159386421
i can't post everything!
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>>159386985
Yes you fucking can
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>>159386928
> For what purpose are you blue?
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>play adc for the first time
>crushing lane as varus and teemo sup vs daven and zil sup
>aatrox jg afk's next to gromp and gives a free kill to enemy team when they invade at the start
>their whole team ganks bot
>mid and jg camp bot for the rest of the game
>enemy team goes ashe top vs malph top
>neither top nor mid push down their towers
>teemo pushes down bot tower as we defend inner mid tower cause mid and top can't do shit
>aatrox jg does what he can , but it's no use
>enemy draven all chat's ez even though he needed mid and jg to baby sit him after i killed him in lane in the first 5 min
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What would be the single most worst champion to play jungle with?

My guess would be eyeball monster or wind girl
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>>159386928
fug
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>>159386928
Die because she is likely about to murder me?
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>>159386928
Kiss her before she can do anything.
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>>159382835
>Modern Graphic "Designers"
>Keep on making everything more complicated just because it looks pretty

It's like they didn't learn shit about the design part.

You know the problem solving?

t. angry graphic designer
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>>159387089
Sona must be up there
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>>159387089
something with no cc and clear.
janna's got no clear but she's overloaded with cc
vel has true damages
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>>159386825
lol
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>>159387215
NO MAN MINIMALISM AND MINORITY REPORT LMAO
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>>159383271
You get RFC so you can get picks safely. I mean yeah Wits end is better but like part of your job is to initiate and nothing imitates a pick faster than a 700 range gold card from someone who didn't think they were that close.
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>no latina hacker champ
nice game lolbabs??
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What was more broken?

S3 kassadin or release Xin? newfags not not reply
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>>159387836
old ez old tf
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>>159387836
Kassadin
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>>159387563
>getting betrayed
>she's a spic
Should've seen it coming desu, good thing we don't have a slut like that in our game
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>>159387836
Xin was more broken but Kass was allowed to be broken for a longer amount of time and made the game in its entirety supreme cancer
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>>159387836
release lb and release zyra
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>>159387110
Need sauce
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>>159388065
>Banned

Well you definitely are now.
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>>159387440
I don't even have a problem with minimalism it's just that folks do it for absolutely everything to the point where no information is actually delivered or you have to go out of your way to obtain your information instead of it being delivered as fast and clear as posible.

League of Legends
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>Ban Yasuo
>Immediately someone dodges
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>no melee carries
>less than half the roster is viable
>only 1-1-2 laning
>korean vs koreans
>no booths

lolbabs?!
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>>159387836
Jax when his e could evade fountain laser.
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vg vs vg up on NA
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>>159388065
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>159387836

Release Xin, guy could be 0/5 and still fuck you up.

Although I consider release Vayne to be the pinnacle of retarded, which is why I take extreme pleasure in shitting on Vaynes.
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>>159388273
>no melee carries
Yasuo, Trydamere, Yi.
Shitposter BTFO!
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Remember the golden year when we had like a new champion release every 2 weeks?
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How the fuck do people even get S+ on tanks?
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>>159388435
literally none of them were picked at worlds
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>>159388467
I got an S- for the btw
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>>159388065
>lux is a coalburner

LUXFAGS BTFO

NIGGER DICK NIGGER DICK
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>>159388454
No that was awful because the game was grossly unbalanced due to the constant releases
Also it made it so they had to release overloaded "unique" champions like azir to keep things from becoming stale
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>>159388467
Riot compares your performance to the current standards of the pro players of that region. Close it is to pro play, the higher your rank.
Assuming you're NA and since you're jungler, you have to aspire to perform more like meteos and be dashing into kennen ultis.
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Does the AS debuff on Nasus' wither affect Yi's Highlander?

Who are the best "anti-Yi" champions?
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>>159388467
I seriously cannot get S on Sej, its stupid
I'll hard carry, farm well, do tons of damage, never die, A-
halp
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>>159388454
what's the point of champions if no one uses them
>half the roster doesn't exist in competitive LoL
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>>159388454

Issue was that half of them were flat out shit for release. Shit like Riven's W cast time being longer than the stun happened all the time with frequent releases.
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vg vs vg +4
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>>159388702
Malzahar
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>>159388454
i will never understand wanting a new champ RIGHT NOW THIS WEEK OMG NEED NEW CHAMPS

half the champs are already forgotten
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>>159388702
No
Any champ with targetted cc
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>>159388702
Yi is immune to MS and AS slows during his ult.
Best bet is rammus
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>>159388565
>worlds
Worlds are irrelevant in SoloQ. It only makes trends and expose hidden ops that gets gutted 3/4 patches later.
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tfw you have someone to care about and love
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How do I know which AS item to get on adcs?
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>>159388770

i don't care about the game i want new rule 34 lol
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>>159385435
>blaming jungler for solo losing lane
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>>159388730
>yi buys QSS
So much for that
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>>159388702
>Who are the best "anti-Yi" champions?

le chicken man of 5 second invulnerability
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>>159388917
Think about what the item does and what it allows you to do, think about your current game, matchups, and situations, and make a choice accordingly that will best suit your chances to win the game.
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>>159388467
Build a protobelt on sej like challenger players do
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>>159388702
SURPRISE, I'M BACK
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>>159388273
>no melee carries

Again because of how League of Legends is balanced, in order for something to be a "carry' by Leagues standards (in other words expected to do most of the damage lategame and is the one that evaporates away the health of the enemy frontline) they need downsides to balance that heavy, consistent damage.

You can't just give someone the damage of an ADC and THEN give them the mobility to put it to use AND give them the tankyness to not be destroyed by the enemy instantly when they get in range to use their damage or else you just get a broken pile of shit like original tank ekko before his 5 billion nerfs (and he's still stupidly strong too).

So no, you won't have meleers in League that output the same amount of damage as an ADC and have the mobility and surviveability to actually pump that damage out because that's broken in LoL.

LoL is not DoTA2 believe it or not. You can't just take a concept from one and put it in the other and expect it to work.
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>>159388982
>Annie presses Q
rip
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>>159388917
Particular champs build runaans, (on hit champs like varus, ashe, twitch) otherwise don't build it

Build Shiv if your team lacks/needs waveclear

Build rapidfirecannon if you have sufficient peel and want to seige/poke

Build PD if you need to kite divers from you
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>>159388702
Tryndamere can just out-yi yi in a 1v1
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Which one of these would be worth upgrading and which one should be burned for essence?

Thanks in advance.
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>>159389631
that one
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>>159389631
>>159389743

Don't listen to him, pick the other one.
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>>159389631
>>159389743
Don't listen to that guy do the other one
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>>159389631
fug

forgot my pic
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>Keep getting unranked chinese people on my team in gold 5

I GUESS I'M NOT GOING WIN A SINGLE FUCKING GAME TODAY AM I.
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New champion will be from Shadow Isles don't believe in Piltover lies.
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>>159389843
>chinese
truly the WORST kind of player to have on your team
A 13 year old riven/yas main would give you a higher chance to win than a fucking chinese.
All they do is spam ping and are all toxic faggots

fuck i hate them, there is so many of them in d5 elo
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>>159389843
>playing ranked when the season is almost over on the weekend
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>>159389810
The fiora, riven, shen, nami, blitz, thresh, taric, naut, rek, and shyv skins are good.
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>>159389810
Keep taric, thresh, project lucian, lb and nami
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>>159389843
god I fucking hate those fob faggots who can't speak a lick of english

especially since I can understand what they're saying when they sperg out in chat
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Natural talent or Vampirism lolg?

>>159390247
Why are they even playing on NA?
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>>159390348
1 point in vampirism, 4 points in NT
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>>159389810
Damn, anon. They're all good. At that point I'd dust skins for champions I don't play and unlock skins for the ones I do play.
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Anyone else here hopes for more Viktor lore? I hate how Jayce's lore turned him into a total evil villain who is badass as long as the plot allows because the hero has to win eventually.
Or just more Zaun lore in general.
Maybe it will get an event similar to Shurima.
>>
new TSM legends episode


feels bad man
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>>159390434
I don't understand this fucking meme 0.4% lifesteal is garbage, it's 4 hp back per 1000 damage dealt.
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>>159390348
most of them are exchange students
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i just want my boy back
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TALL WOODY GREEN TREE PAPA
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>>159390592
I like his stream, but he definitely doesn't deserve to play this game ever again. He was psychotic levels of toxic
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>>159390485
Viktor is the anti-hero and Jayce is an antagonist anon.
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>>159390772
>people use "toxic" unironically
Thanks tumblr.
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End of the game, and they just surrendered fuck i love otp ivern
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>>159390865
toxic, flamer, asshat, cunt, etc. They all carry a similar meaning faggot. Maybe you should go to tumblr if a word triggers you so easily
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>>159390348
Exchange students mostly.

>>159390247
I don't know much, but I had one game where I banned yasuo - nobody hovered it - and our zed spent 20 minutes in spawn shouting cao ni ma bi shen in all chat.
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>>159391024
how about you if those things are a problem to you?
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>>159390831
Viktor wasn't meant to be anti-hero based on his lore tho. He was fucked up by the Standwick or what was his name, and hid himself in the work, slowly stripping himself from humanity. Then Jayce's lore comes in and suddenly he becomes the anti-hero.
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>end of season approaches
>finally start playing on smurf that's around p5 MMR
>already getting a handful enemy players in their gold-to-plat promos

maybe next season boyos
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>>159391119
*tips fedora*
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>>159388065
im gonna need source on the top left
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>>159391179
No, an anti-hero is still a hero but with morally contrarian views. They're edgy.
I don't think Viktor can really be described as a hero outside his own perspective but Jayce's lore took him and just made him a villain when previously he was just his own guy doing his own thing for his own reasons.
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>>159391405
hehe xd
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advanced plat panth tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdN65XSOunU
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>>159380245
>>159381169
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor
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>>159387836
Release Nasus
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Just got Gold V today. If a shitter like me can do it, you can too guys.

Now I'm hot garbage with a gold border and a garbage skin
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>>159391537
lmfao he killed his own tower
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>>159391456
Yes and this is exactly what pisses me off. I hope we get more on both Viktor and Zaun. It feels like an interesting place, and we never got alot lore to it, biggest one being the Ekko comic i think, unless i missed something.
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>>159390485
>Tfw after about 3 days of bad luck you finally get Mastery 6 Viktor.

I feel like that rumored piltover champion might be related to him somehow.
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>>159392085
ITS GONNA BE A SHADOW ISLES CHAMP THE PILTIE CHAMP IS A MEME AAAAHHHH
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>>159388984
>>159389220
but I'm mastery lvl 7 tryn with 150k points

I want someone new to shit on Yi consistently with.
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>>159389810
fiora, proj luc, lb, riven if u like it, rek if u like her
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>noxus poppy
>gravelord azir
>guardian of the sands Rammus
Any other cross-faction skins?
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>>159391537
That's troll as fug kek
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>>159392252
>Void Illaoi
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>>159392175
Akali actually can. You q r him, he ws, you q him and smoke, then r aa q r aa and you should win. However if he gets beefy with multiple mr/tank items you will lose
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>>159392252
>Guardian of the sands Rammus
>Cross-faction
Rammus is Shuriman now
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>>159392410
FUCKING STOP RIOT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE BEST FRIENDS WITH BLITZCRANK AAAAA
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>>159392438
sup bbygirl u single n' qt?
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>>159392085
Welcome to Glorious Evolution friend.
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>>159392000
I'm all for one sided stories.
Honestly I feel like all too often we get a story told from someone's perspective but the perspective we're actually given is the author's "correct" perspective when the character might not have even a remotely similar take on the situation.
In that respect I think Jayce's lore was very good. It was very Jayce. Ekko's lore does something similar (everyone from Zaun is EVIIIIIL fuck everyone also fuck Piltover though).

The main problem is that because Viktor's lore was told first we end up with less of a Rengar vs Kha'Zix situation where they're pitched as equals who each have a side of their story and it feels like Viktor's lore was just retconned to make him an asshole.
What we need to rectify this is some event or piece of work in which Viktor gets to make a rebuttle. The true crime is that Jayce's lore basically is a retcon of Viktor's rather good lore since we haven't had Viktor's side of the story since he was released.
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>on 6 game loss streak

How big can I go, can I make it 10, maybe 15. We're shooting for 20 here boys. maybe if I lose enough i can get demoted back down to silver and if I'm lucky I can get to silver 5 before the season is up becasue fuck all that work I put in to climb from bronze. Gold 5 is literally worse than bots and nobody cares so why I should I. maybe I'll start inting just so other know how it feels to have that one lane that shits the bed so hard it's impossible to win.
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>>159392689
I went on an 8 game losing streak before finally managing to get it together and reach gold V just today.

You can do it anon.
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do ADCs actually carry in this game? seems like everyone in this general makes them out to be completely at the mercy of their team which is not really the case in any other moba ive played
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>>159392569
I need Truly Truly Truly Outrageous next and then I have room for one more of these guys:

"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAR"
"Stand behind Braum!"
"Boom baby!"
"ITS MEEEEEEEEE"
"A Demonstration of Superior Judgement"
"Never one without the other" (Kindred will solely be played mid)

>>159392000
Ironically we seem to get more stories about Piltover but more champions from Zaun...or at least it seems that way.
>>
>>159392689
>>159392824
Go play aram until you win then play rankeds again.
>>
> Doublelift takes a competitive hiatus for Spring split. Team open tryouts for AD role and will not participate in IEM XI Oakland.
Was he bullied out?
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>>159392828
ADC's can easily carry if they aren't shit, so no they cant carry
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>>159392252
Woad king darius
Blackfrost anivia
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>>159392824
It doesn't matter what lane I play or how well I do, there's always one that just feed so fucking hard and the game becomes impossible to win. Even bronze was better than gold 5. I just want out of this hell.
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>>159392948
do you realize that if league is frustrating you, you can just stop fucking playing
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>>159392895
new tsm legends episode is out
watch it there
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>>159392895
I dunno but he sure deserved to after that worlds performance.
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is there a more fun champ
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>>159393082
i hope you drown in a flood
>>
>playing aram
>veigar, teemo, sivir, janna
>our riven kept trying to dive a viktor, heimer, illaoi, rammus comp and dying
>blames rest of team for not following
>afks under inhib towers
>tfw still won with the power of yordles. and princesses
>spam ":^) x9" post game screen
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>>159393082
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>>159392252
>pirate ryze
We need another cross-faction skins!
It would be fun to have ionian yordle Trist or Heimer.
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>>159393180
t. silver 5
>>
/lolg/ vs. r/lol when
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>EDG PawN leaves. Deft to leave the team after Demacia Cup.
I hope old samsung reforms
>>
>>159393352
:^)
>>
I MADE IT! I'M IN GOLD VEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>main adc
>get it for the first two promos, win
>have to jungle for the third, lose
>4th, someone dodges, not me, still counted as a dodge to me.
>5th, have to jungle again, based riven carries the game 1v9
Now I can finally quit ranked games. Playing half a dozen games a day really takes a toll on the old psyche.
>>
Demacia lore update when?
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>>159393440
>old samsung
We need new super team that can destroy SKT.
Any ideas?
>>
>>159393471
noice, enjoy the maokai skin pal
>>
>>159393650
Assassinate bang
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>>159393330
and fuck bard mains to. fuck them all to death
>>
Here's the run down on the new champ guys.

Passive is free stats whenever the enemy has no vision of you, 0.5s spell shield when you first enter vision 20 second static cooldown

Q is a bleed that causes a 0.1s mini stun on top of the damage it does and grants vision of the target, also constantly steals AD for the remainder. grants a permanent Veigar style AD bonus if it kills its target, larger bonuses scaling linearly with how many ticks happen before it kills the target, bonus only counts if you're X amount of units away from the target. Riot REALLY wants to create a PSS nuthin personnel kid play pattern where you find enemies with the perfect amount of health, Q them, walk away, and ten seconds later they die to the fina ltick while you're on the other side of the map

W is a trap that reveals you and snares you like caitlyn, but if you're in combat it's a linear skill shot where you throw the trap instead.

E is basically frost queen's active only you send out 4, they do damage and blind champions on top of revealing them, and they can also disable wards and traps instead if that's the unit they come across first

R is literally ball lightning

Basically you place your traps, you throw out your ghosts, you reveal an enemy dumb enough to touch one, you zip across the map with your ball lightning, you get picks after you *teleprots behind them* and cut their neck and fly back out with ball lightning.
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>>159391537
Did he kill his own tower?
>>
fuck _me_
>>
>>159387836
Release Xin was impacting, but Kassadin was allowed to be OP for an entire fucking season.

Morello's champion, Zyra, was another one who was so overloaded at release that they nerfed her the next patches.
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>>159393739
Don't you mean faker? Whether or not he's still the greatest, he draws way too many resources from the other team to the point they can carry shitters like duke
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>>159393891
Zyra was CertainlyT
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>wake up
>play a game of league
>some random ass freeze happens before minions spawn
>'whatever'
>someone dies in my screen
>freeze of 5 seconds
>find myself dead right after
>get into a teamfight
>freeze of 10 seconds
>dead again
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>>159393836
I don't want to.
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hey guys which role do i main if i smoke crack in real life
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>>159393836
i want to
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>this talon
is we troubled now?
>>
>>159393836
maybe
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>>159394070

Junglr. YOU'RE going to want to be mobile
>>
>>159394153
>no masteries kennen
I mean if you don't win this you're massively retarded
>>
>>159393937
thought it was Morello with CertainlyT input. I remember them hyping up Zyra because Morello was behind it and people expected some stupid shit because he got tired of trying to nerf Irelia.
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>>159394070
Hecarim/Yi jg
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>>159393924
Watching this worlds, really just the last match between ssg and skt, I felt that bang was performing much better than faker was. It's just that faker gets all the caster dicksucking
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>>159394070
Play Talon so when the assassin patch comes you can jump over walls like a real nigga
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>>159391537
lel
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>>159394205
>>159394324
INPUT cONFIRMED
master yi this is master yi entering the !!-=YI ZONE=-!! over
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>>159393748
So Caitlyn + Teemo traps on a basic ability. What's probably going to be the game's best bleed, FQC but infinitely better with ward killing, and ball lightning

Good job CertainlyT
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>winning lane against Zed
>he roams and gets 2 kills
JUST
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>>159394438
alright guys champion.gg is returning some ~BIZARRE FEEDBACK~ about master yi

it says ghost smite wins more than flash smite does that mean i go ghost smite?? thats weird
it also says that starting with hunters machete and no potions wins more than starting with the 3 potions like WtF someone REDPILL_ME on the master yi
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>>159394617
>roaming assassin
>jungler doesn't maintain strong vision in bot river and never takes scuttle
>everyone blames me when he collecrts his complimentary double kill bot on the house
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>>159387836
>release xin
>gets an average nerf in ONE (1) patch
>immediately becomes a joke only fit to stomp low elo matches
>Kass
>nerfed again and again
>still broken as fuck in pro play

Is not even close. Things like release Graves, release Vayne, release Rek'sai, release Zyra, release Rengar were far more powerful than Meme Zhao. People who talk about release xin zhao don't even know what they are talking about.

Fucking postbuff prehotfix Udyr, Twitch or Vlad were more broken than him at the time too.
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>>159394617
That's partially your fault. If you don't proactively keep Zed on a leash he's going to do some serious damage. Especially if your team mates are tools.

If a Zed picks first you should choose a champion who, if not straight up dumpster him then at least respond to his ganks in kind.

It sucks but this is Riot's love baby we're talking about.
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got into my series for gold today, gonna start em tomorrow
wish me luck
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>>159394617
>Every lane pinging bot to back off
>bot clearly has vision of approaching mid laner
>refuses to back off
>enemy double kill
>"Sorry didn't see lol"
I think bot lane needs to lose more LP when the cause the team to lose like they do every fucking game.
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>>159394880
That's the worst part about Zed, even when he's not good his play patterns force you to play the game on his terms.
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>>159394880
The problem is that both times he roamed I wasn't able to see what lane he was going to so I couldn't even follow him.
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>>159394915
>Taric
You'll only be as good as your team lets you.
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>>159394806
Unneeded pots waste gold you could use to buy items. If you know what you're doing you shouldn't need them.
You also don't need flash if you know when to enter the yi zone.
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>>159394880
I thought there love-baby was Lee Sin, AKA no nerfs allowed?
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does ANYONE need to get boos- I mean duo with me for a few games?? I'm BORED

If you are bronze or silver add BURZUM on THE NORTH
AMERICAN
server!!!
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Will the assassin cancer be worst than pre-season 3, or are we all going to make it out alive?
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>>159395014
i try to follow the most fed person on my team in order to win
it's precisely how i won that second game with the eye of the equinox, since darius had all our kills until vik came online
meanwhile, ezreal was pants on head retarded
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>>159394617
>enemy mid laner who you can't beat in a straight fight roams
>ping bot back
>they die
>"wtf why no follow easy triple"

>they roam again
>follow them
>you get jumped by them in the river and die
>"wtf what were you doing dying in the river?"
Retards shouldn't be allowed to speak.
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>>159394806
>>159395101
Forgot to mention you get W lvl 2 to get the sustain you miss from not having pots and you can chase people after they flash over a wall with a well timed Q.
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who approved this shit?
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>>159395308
Holy fuck this annoys me
>Anivia why didn't you follow the zed?
GEE I WONDER
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>>159395357
What the fuck...
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>>159395357
looks gud
when is the patch
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>>159382681
Lost three in a row
got secondary role in all 3 and didn't have a fighting chance in two of them

I'll get back but I'm very low on time and there's a good chance I can't
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>>159395239
>new AD+MR item that provides a spell shield to nullify a lot of assassin burst
>lethality a 100% direct nerf to flat arpen
>all the assassins have been made WORSE in the assassin updates having slower more spread out or delayed "burst" (LeBlanc, Talon), or more telegraphed movement patterns easier to land skillshots on(Katarina)
>Knight's Vow
>Redemption
>Courage of the Colossus
Only Rengar and Khazix are going to be super cancer. Even Zed came out of the update worse for wear.
>>
>Main jungle
>Bot lane feeds litertally every game
>Fuck this I'll play bot lane
>Jungler feeds literally every game

There's just no winning is there?
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>>159395357
so when is this new client coming out? 1 year? 2?
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>>159395489
Same problem here. Plat V is fucking terrible.
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sup guys
need some high tempo big beat/electronic stuff to ladder to
anyone hook me up with a playlist
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>>159395357
What do the 2 circles overlapping mean? gold per 5?
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>>159395357
There's literally nothing wrong with that compared to the current page system
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>>159395357
I've also used the Alpha client. It's honestly not the worst.
Readability is worse with the new rune pages but it definitely looks cleaner and more cohesive visually. Especially compared to the old rune pages (what the fuck was all that blank space?) it LOOKS better.
If they replace the icons in the middle with text instead of making me either hover over each one or memorize them all it'd be fine.
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>>159395357
Runes should be more accessible.
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>>159395357
That doesn't look too bad honestly, the biggest problem is the stat totals in the middle.
Runes are fine to make into fancy icons, actual information is not.
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>Roll teemo in aram
>Get countered by 300 gold

It was fun until they actually decided to think
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Gender bend skins when? Do you think riot will ever do it? because I want female ivern to wrap me up in her legs and cuddle
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>>159395453
>Kha is suddenly going to be super cancer when he was barely changed
He's going to do ~80-100 more damage on his passive thanks to the new AD scaling and he's going to have an easier time 1v1 against tanks. The only other relevant change in his kit is a nerf where you have to evolve W for any slow at all and it's still a weaker slow than current evolved W unless they're isolated.
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you're on the fifth game of your series and you're at the late game where one teamfight will decide it
what song is playing for you right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUmVZYRwKgg
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>>159395883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6twhXA1Gyw
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>>159395859
You're not factoring in the new Duskblade. I know it's not the great sample size or sample playerbase, but most of the PBE has been saying new Kha is absolutely bonkers.
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>>159395775
why not just climb inside fem ivern and have her stick a few vines up your butt?
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>>159395883
Playing Ivern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Na4j8AVgA

the chorus matches ivern's walk on both skins. gona fuckin mobi boots walk my way in with daisy and fucking cc everyone.
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>enemy jungler picks Lee Sin
>+20lp

Sometimes Riot really does love me.
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>>159395768
>complaining about stealth on ARAM
>when Teemo's QoL changes to his shrooms allow you to use them aggressively as pseudo-skillshots rather than only preemptive traps
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>>159395997
do you think she could get pregnant? i mean sentient living tree being , maybe able to cum on her stigma and fertilize her. i want to do this so bad now
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>>159395883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHMy6V5Qjc

alternatively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4k8hbwHgQ4

alternatively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kLxQGbRYg

alternatively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_zsJ8KPP0

alternatively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

alternatively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnFSb8xcmN4

alternatively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URhmC865SGI
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>>159396191
>blink 182
are you having a fucking laugh
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I want to ___ Riven!
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>>159396258
WHERE ARE YHEW

AND OIM SO SAHREY
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>3-1 in placements
How will I finish?
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>>159396342
>that fucking Singed flying
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>>159395968
Fuck new Kha, I'm more worried about new Rengar.
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>>159396342
is that guy dabbing to the right of riven

>>159396368
god speed you atleast get G5 for victorious lmaokai
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>>159396342
be slaughtered by
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>>159396368
3-7
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>>159395968
PBE is G A R B A G E. I cannot emphasize this enough.

I've been playing a lot of PBE recently because two of my favorite champions are Kha and Twitch yeah I kinda like the Twitch changes, sue me.
I get constant complaints about Twitch being broken when I pop off in lane with him. His laning phase is almost entirely unchanged, it's still weak as fuck and he doesn't have an early power spike item to duel people with anymore in ghostblade. People are complaining about Twitch when I play him.

I get complaints about lane Kha being broken when people are doing the same silver shit that's always let him be broken which is not staying in your fucking creep wave to fight him and letting him get isolated damage for free.
Kha with a lead has always been a fucking terror, even on live he's soul crushingly powerful with a lead. The thing is (and this applies to Twitch too) he should never get there. He's still Kha'Zix. He still needs to isolate you to get damage, he still needs to be in melee range to do his damage, and his ways into melee range are still limited to a fairly short range jump and a short stealth and he doesn't even have the slow anymore on W until level 16.
His ganks from the jungle are slightly better if you sacrifice early Q and late W evolve for R evolve which to be fair you can do now because isolated damage increase isn't loaded onto evolve, that's about it for relevant buffs.

People on the PBE are so indescribably bad. Don't trust anything they say.
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>>159396461
Rengar is running around with 1100 AD on PBE, He's going to be fucking insta-gutted.

BUT, that's a numbers problem and his actual kit is more manageable now.
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>>159396457
>One day singed realized that the only thing champion he had never flinged was himself.
>And so he did.
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ivern with masks skins please, except the far left, shit looks too fucking stupid like a heimershit
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>play mid
>all my mid champs are "low tier"
>sometimes win lane but always struggle to carry game
>decide to start playing orianna
>absolutely crush lanes everytime and carrying games is as simple as pressing R

Hmm really makes you think
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>>159396083
>our mid picks lee sin
>+21 LP
my experience has been changed
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>>159396342
xDD
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>>159395559
next week
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>>159396659
you forgot this d.gg
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>>159396552
>Bonetooth gives up to +30% bonus AD.
Who the hell thought that was a good idea is what I want to know.
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>>159396342
They look so happy FOR A GROUP OF MURDERERS
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>>159396181
remember to collect your daily supply of maple syrup
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>>159396832
Its a consistent amount that makes him too strong

Its a numbers thing rather than the entire kit being broken.
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>Enemy team has a Twisted Fate, Sion, Kled, and Nunu
>Phy is angry at his support for not brainlessly pushing his enemy ADC under tower

HOW IS THIS BOOSTED BONOZO DIAMOND?
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>>159396891
where do you think it comes out of? instant diamonds if she drools it
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>>159395610
WORDS ANON

I CAN LOOK AT MY PAGE AND SEE WHAT THEY DO

I DON'T WANT TO HOVER

>>159395607
yeah
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>>159396930
>mini ekko ult on a low cd regular skill
>empowered mini ekko ult also makes him Olaf for 2 seconds
>starting a combo with a leap from 0 ferocity lets him almost instantly use an empowered ability in his combo
>old insta-delete rengar q damage but now aoe and spammable
>auto crit on leap out of ult
IDK boss a couple of these things seem like poor kit design
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>>159394241
>>159394153
yeah we lost
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>>159396931
I mean if it's not 6 what's the problem
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>>159397125
To be fair, the INTENDED point of his empowered abilities was that his cleanse was supposed to be mutually exclusive to his empowered Q, and without his empowered Q he'd be powerless to assassinate people.

What they didn't count on was him getting 4 digit AD and just killing you with normal skills.
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Which league girl is the closet to Tifa?
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>>159397167
Pre-6 sure

But there was a time when Sion and TF were both 6, had their ults up, and Phy is talking about how he wants to push Jinx under tower and he'd be doing it if it "wasn't for his stupid passive support"
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>>159397284
>those proportions
just fuck my shit up senpai
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>>159396931
>Phy
???
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>>159397284
me
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>>159397263
He doesn't need 4 digit AD to do that though. The crit on his ult would be strong even without an IE thrown into a full AD build. The Q is practically overkill at that point and he still has his AD scaling E if you're somehow not dead.
He doesn't need a single bonetooth stack or any sort of gold lead to instantly blow up your ADC except now he's AoE too and he has a free Olaf ult out of the fight if he decides he doesn't like the look of things.
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>>159397140
it's okay meripuu
you were just unlucky
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>>159397431
L O N D O N
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>>159397140
pls b my gf
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>>159395357
why is everything so big
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>>159397284
vi
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>>159397410
Self-proclaimed "master tier" player who is currently hardstuck in Plat 3 on his smurf.

I'm mostly interested in him because this man is unironically worse than Armstrong. Same exact problem and both constantly blame their team but at least Armstrong isn't hardstuck in fucking plat
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>>159397534
nnnnn my hand is promised to both pix and maokai at the same time

>>159397485
Iwas triggered the most by veve not warding supports that do not ward trigger me a lot
>>
What are your meta predictions for season 7?

I predict kha is going to be pick/ban and a tanky leblanc build will be cancer dominating solo queue
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>>159397687
lee, ekko, yasuo, vayne, janna, thresh, xin, olaf, jhinn, vi
>>
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RIOT

WHY
H
Y
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>>159397687
tanks and bruisers with ghost going mid to escape ranged cancer like Jayce and Kennen and counter the now much worse assassins.
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>>159397687
HE'S COMIN BACK

MORG'S COMIN WITH HIM

I BELIEVE
>>
Do you guys buy Cull?

Is it even worth it to go back to buy it or you only do it if you get forced to base?
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>>159397685
Don't you have a NA acc? Play with me!
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>4 losses at 0 lp
>9/6
>7/2 (S)
>10/3 (S-)
>1/2/25 support (S)
>no demotion
at least riot knows im being put with büüsted animals and wont demote me but seriously fuck this ranked system
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>>159397908
I mean fervor will be good on him, but how is he coming back at all besides that?
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>>159397960
It's a rare purchase on a few specific champions. Never a first item though
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So,what do you guys think about GP?
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>>159397997
he's probably not.
There are like 3 champions that are the exact same as Nocturne but overall more viable, so any general changes are going to effect them as well as him which continues to put them farther ahead.

If he gets direct changes, then we'll see but Riot's track record with Nocturne is uh, terrible.
Friendly reminder he went from his release patch until 3 YEARS LATER only receiving nerfs, never a single buff until patch 4.something if I remember right.
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>>159397816
AYYYYYY
>>
>>159397960
Cull is terrible because the item's stats are worth more than the the profit gold for getting it to 100 stacks. You're actually losing gold value in terms of stats when you sell it fully charged. The only context it makes sense in is keeping it until you have 5 complete items and you're forced to sell it for the sake of another.
>>
>>159398151
he's a barrel of fun
>>
>>159398151
>>159398151
strong if you know how to play him
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>>159394806
you shouldn't really blindly copy its most winning builds and stuff, they are sometimes made for a very aggressive game which an average player likely can't pull
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>>159398151
The Karthus of toplane.

Farm up early.
Use ult to help team while you sit farming
Become late-game hypercarry and drag your team kicking and screaming to victory regardless of if they want to or not
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>>159398329
Also the most winning builds might not be connected at all to the most winning runepages/mastery pages, which can be misleading. Just find a onetrick and copy them if you need to copy IE how I copy Metroid's Vi
>>
>wining botlane hard and thresh started roaming
>Suddenly our vayne was feeding because literally no one can deal with a 2v1 even under turret
>How am I not good thresh says I'm 2/2/21
Fucking piece of shit I told you to go back and help vayne instead you let twitch get fed and we lost. Granted she could have roamed too but we were going to lose towers because of it feeding twitch anyway. What part of fucking support don't you get?
>>
I fucked up guys. I just picked Shen and with tp out of all things.
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>>159397687
Naut comes back in style with the new mastery and does well until Riot nerfs him again

Assassin's completely die out after the changes

Xerath becomes meta
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>>159398516
Shen wants tp though...
>>
>>159398586
>Assassin's completely die out after the changes

From the looks of it riot is making them even more cancerous, how are they going to die out?
>>
>everyone doing well
>this support is pretty shit
>holding my own 2v1 pretty well though
>mid and late game hit and we're all jerking off mid throwing skill shots
>well the enemy is cause we're 3 melee into 4 ranged
>squishy supp keeps frontlining and getting caught out forcing us to 4v5

and I thought this was gonna be an easy win too considering how well i was holding myself 2v1
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>>159398734
see
>>159395453
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>>159398586
How when mids still cancer even without assassins.
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lolbabs what is a champon i can buy with my IP that is CooL and does the thing
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>>159398151
i miss the old gp
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Which QT girls would slaughter you?
and how?
Also post guro smut
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>>159397687

AD assassins are gonna be busted as fuck

All talon's are gonna feed the first week cause terrain jukes are too fun not to do, then he'll be OP too

a tanky Leblanc and Kat are gonna arise

Akali, while being shit is somehow gonna be a god on the enemy team

and ADCs are gonna have a harder time surviving than ever
>>
>>159398975
I wonder if tanky LB and kat are going to be the nightmare ahri used to be.
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>>159398975
Bot lane will feed on levels which we never imagined.
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>jhin release
>play jhin
>never stop playing jhin
>Only ever play Jhin
>start memorizing jhin's quotes
>start walking like jhin
>start talking like jhin
>Start moving like Jhin
>repeat jhin's animations constantly
>whisper his quotes constantly
>hum his hums constantly
>Count to four constantly
>dress like jhin would
>sing like jhin would
>dance like jhin would
>FOUR
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How many pinks do you buy per game?
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>>159399114

They're gonna get 4 manned far more often than now cause of new meta assassins while mid jerks off slow pushing and the jungler camps their buff on the opposite waiting for them
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>>159399159
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>>159399182
how can one be so BASED
>>
>>159399198
place one every time i invade and buy one every time i go back
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>>159399198
I'd say average around 2

t. goldie
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>>159395453
>>159398772
>new AD+MR item that provides a spell shield to nullify a lot of assassin burst
60 AD and only MR as a relevant other stat for people not building duskblade. CD was also nerfed to 45 seconds. Not going to be a better buy than the other defensive items ADCs take. If you want 60 AD and MR you get Mercurial.

>lethality a 100% direct nerf to flat arpen
This is true but lethality numbers are also higher than arpen numbers were.

>all the assassins have been made WORSE in the assassin updates
LeBlanc has been made actually deceptive and it can be difficult to tell what exactly she's doing with proper ult use, her burst has been slowed down but she's been compensated with an extra damage base and scaling.
Talon's damage has also been buffed and the only part of his burst that's been slowed down is his W and the range and damage have been increased to compensate. The delay isn't even that long.
We'll have to see how Kat plays out, well played Kat may be very strong, I can already think of a few techniques that make her daggers trickier. If nothing else they're very large "don't walk here" zones.

Courage of the Colossus and Redemption do absolutely nothing to stop an assassin's burst. Knight's vow is nice but seeing as assassin damage has been overall raised on this patch it's not looking like enough to even make assassin damage look even to current live damage.
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>>159398962
lulu
with cuddles
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>>159399198
>Not training yourself to no longer rely on pinks now that they're being removed from the game

Weak
>>
>teleport to illaoi tentacle next to a wall
>get stuck
explain yourselves lolbabs
>>
>>159399317
*Record Scratch*

*Freeze Frame*

Yup, thats me
>>
>>159381652

Jinx would have a two in one stand, her hard hitting Fishbones and and quick and precise Pow Pow
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This is me. Literally me. No other character can come close to relating to me like this. there is no way you can convince me this is not me. This character could not possibly be anymore me. It's me, and nobody can convince me otherwise. If anyone approached me on the topic of this not possibly being me, then I immediately shut them down with overwhelming evidence that this character is me. this character is me, it is indisputable. Why anyone would try to argue that this character is not me is beyond me. If you held two pictures of me and this character side by side, you'd see no difference. I can safely look at this character every day and say "Yup, that's me". i can practically see this character every time I look at myself in the mirror. I go outside and people stop me to comment how similar I look and act to this character. I chuckle softly as I'm assured everyday this char>>159399182cter is me in every way. I can smile each time I get out of bed every morning knowing that I've found my identity with this character and I know my place in this world. it's really quite funny how similar this character is to me, it's almost like we're identical twins. When I first saw this character, I had an existential crisis. What if this character was the real me and I was the fictional being. What if this character actual became aware of my existence? did this character have the ability to become self aware itself?
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>>159399557
You probably wonder how I got there?
well....
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>>159399478
niche situation that doesn't happen often, report it to Riot
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>>159399469
>>159399403

nice jOjO referneces my jobro!!!!!!!!!
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all of rengars deaths are from twitch, fucking pathetic
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>>159399469
>being removed from the game
>they're being buffed to still be pinks but also disable the wards and traps they spot
???
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>>159399565
>>159399565
>>159399565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb-lw6CWyFA
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>>159399667
good twitch players are monsters
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>>159399720
ART
R
T

What are they doing though ?
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>>159399667
im shocked a nami didnt die more to a fed twitch
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>>159375163
but Jynx is from Zaun, she only attacked Piltover
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>>159399667
The best way to avoid being assassinated is to assassinate the assassin
it's simple
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>>159399669
From what I've seen control wards don't give vision, they just deny it.
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>>159400005
No they're still pinks. I don't know if they're intended to only deny vision but currently on PBE they give it as well.
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>ironscale cucks
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>>159399986
The best defense is a good offense, and the best form of attack is surprise.

Therefor the most efficient way to defend yourself is to kill your enemies before they even know you exist.
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>>159399791
>>159399791
>>159399791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=731XEs0w2XM
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>>159398184
Another hit against Nocturne is his best items are being changed for assassin's next patch, and they might not be as promising for him.
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>>159400102
>>159399986
just kill him in his fucking jungle FUCK
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>>159400193
but it looks like twitch was one step ahead of you on that
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>>159400106
You.... inspire me
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how is hashinsin diamond 1?
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>>159400281
is that stanley kubrick and adolf hitler
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>>159400160
BEGONE GNOME

BEGONE
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>>159397974
I doo but


which of you shitlords said J4 was awful this patch

can he be nerfed soon

is lulooo getting buffs anytime soon
>>
>want to play normals for no fucking reason please kill me
>jhin not banned
>graves not banned
>want to afk from the start of the match
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i still need to work on my ivern top, granted it wasnt "as" bad as i thought it would be, need to find a better runepage to cs easier unless i max E>W>Q instead of E>Q>W for easier last hitting undertower. also no jungle runes but i think there still ok
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>>159400343
yes
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159400281
https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=RguOKpAv-9U
https://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=RguOKpAv-9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RguOKpAv-9 U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RguOKpAv-9U
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>>159400490
>c9sneaky
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What's the wait time for dodging in Poro King? Need to know in case fags pick Bard.
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Even when I manage to destroy my lane and cover for others after, I can't make up for the bad game changing decisions these jackasses make

Why do people chase for a kill and sac a tower?
>>
>tfw your highest win rate isn't on your waifu
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>>159400408
English words borrowed by Japanese always have elongated vowels where I never expect.
Why is the O in Gold elongated? Couldn't they just say ゴルド?
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>>159400608
good contribution to the post friend :^)
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>>159400408
j4 has always had disgustingly good AD ratio on his Q/Ult its just jungle hits him like a truck when they nerd the armor off his flagtoss i think it was?
In lane if you can play him to success it will always end up like that, him 1shotting anything squish. Also they've always wanted lulu to not be how she was in lcs so lane lulu may never come back to the strength it was even after you couldnt E>Q onto someone twice with 40% cdr
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>>159400741
because gor(u)do sounds too fast
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>>159400898
I thought they said they liked lane lulu
fuck
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>>159400523
11/10 made me kill my whole family
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>Enemy top hyper over extended
>My jungler is an eve
>She doesn't ever come to collect free money because I've keep river bush warded with a pink the entire time and he's never placed one
>Ask her why she's not ganking
>"Not my job to win your lane"
I just don't understand.
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>>159401067
why would you ever think that
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>>159398962
Sona would love you to death

Smothering you with her cowtits
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>>159401087
>shit is happening on other lane
>im bad but gank me pls xd go waste your time
yeah no thank you
In case you didn't notice top is irrelevant
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>>159400408
right after the orianna, lee, lb, fizz, and akali nerfs you've asked for
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>>159401185
Spotted the silver jungler.
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>>159401105
do you mean to say they lied in the in the patchnotes/on the forums
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Why the fuck do I jungle? Fucking every game I have to mash "G" for absoulutely nothing, because my team ignores every fucking ping for a gank or "HEY THE ENEMY JUNGLER'S PATH IS GOING TO HAVE HIM BOT, SO MOVE BACK".

And of course I have to play against fucking dynamic queues who just rush my fucking jungle, while my team dicks around and farms.
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>>159399667
maybe get gud and dont be such a deadweight in lane
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>>159401067
well she was always "mainly" released as a support champ, they've tweaked/nerfd her
way too much because of how dominant lane lulu actually became either mid or top. So what happens, mid/top lulu main skill/mechanics get nerfd, and force her into supp role but because nerfd skills that killed her solo lane hurt her also killed her support laning shes just not in a good spot at all until somethings get reverted. But I hope riot learns to balance things well like dota does so we see more champ balance diversity in metas or in whatever people like to play. sorry for blogpost. also i love ivern league of legends.
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>>159401087
>Not my job to win your lane
Fucking hate this shit.
It's not your job to win my lane specifically but it is your job to have an impact on the map and be relevant in the game.

If an enemy lane is consistently over extended with no wards yes it's your fucking job to not let them bully and farm for free instead of collecting your free 300 and going back to jerking off.
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what are some champs that can 1v5 when farmed? doesn't have to be easy at all just possible
hard mode: NOT fucking ekko
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>>159401276
d2 actually but you must be a shitter
You probably don't even know about timing gank and jungle route
Maybe you don't know but fucking up your route because a retard sucks at top and delaying everything can make you lose the game
>not here to countergank bot
>ennemies takes double bot
>take first tower
>drake
wew so worst we got top's flash :^)
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>>15940107444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXec6yYEX1k
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>>159401087
protip, never, I repeat never ask your jungler to gank your lane, or ask why they're not ganking, I mean never. Even if it's a good idea to gank your lane, nothing triggers a jungler more than a laner complaining for ganks. Junglers are the most on edge people in the whole game, any possible thing you say that would deflect blame onto them for your lane, when they themselves haven't been doing poorly is will make sure they don't gank your lane. You can say "yo top is free kills" or "top is overextending like fuck, if you want we can try something here", but don't ever say "why aren't you ganking my lane?" or spam assist pings, or something like that. Junglers get more shit than any role in the game by a wide margin, even if you are right, flaming them at 10 minutes is the worst thing you can do.

t. someone who has mained jungle, top and adc
>>
are we all watching our guy ls?
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>>159401479
No champ can guaranteed 1v5, because you can just get chain CC'd and die to a full team's worth of damage over 10 seconds.
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>>159401507
>D2
>thinks getting the jungler (himself) ahead on a free gank because the guy isn't warding is a "Waste of time"
Serious doubt pleb.
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>>159401185
>top irrelevant
not true anon, if its a hard carry top like jayce/irelia/rumble etc i always try to find ways to feed them kills because they will contribute heavily into a transition of an easy win.

>>159401350
yeah, its fun making an impact on ivern because no one expects it

>>159401479
jax/trynd/oriana/irelia(?Maybe?)/Illaoi (perfect tentacle/ult positioning)
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>>159401527
t. salty jungle bab who tilts if someone rightfully points out he's doing badly

KYS
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>>159401185
i hope you have your eye on dragon then
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>>159401185
>top is irrelevant
>when im playing morde

nigger you what
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>>159400408
I hope you fucking die.
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>>159401612
>trynd
lol no
>irelia
only when really fed
>>159401638
Nigger I play a lot more top and adc now than I do jungle, the undeserved shit you get as a jungler gets to you really hard after a while, it's literally why you see shitters like armstrong tilt from challenger to D5. If the jungler is like 0/0/0 while the enemy jungler is legendary, or they're just feeding then yeah, flaming is understandable. But like if they're 1/0/2, and the enemy jungler is 2/1/3, begging for ganks is going to trigger the fuck out of any jungler. It's why when I lane I never ask for ganks ever, no matter how good of an idea it is. I'm just trying to give advice on how to help you climb senpai, that's all.
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>>159401527
>laning against immobile champ that has already shoved in and used summs
>jungler decides to force the fuck out of a gank in some other lane and dies
my favorite meme
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>>159401758
Ihad not planneg to die anon

>>159401348
I cry all the time
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>>159401604
sure learn to read that's not what I'm saying.
if the guy is over extanding whole game of course there will be good moments to gank him but that doesn't mean you have to sacrifice more importants things for a solo kill especially if it's a moment when the first tower can be taken down or there is an important drake up
also when a toplaner is over extanding it's probably that he is raping your ass pretty hard so he is ahead and also ahead of the jungler which means he could potentialy take one kill on a 1v2 especially when the jungler is a shit champ like eve

>>159401751
>morde
hope you're joking with your memepick
>>
>tfw now Plat 1 because of lamb booty

Cant wait to get myself to diamond 5 so I can celebrate by selling this account
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>>159401960
>Armstrong tilted from Challenger to D5
okay just fuck off at this point. You don't drop 6 divisions and get hard stuck for an entire season with 800 wins and losses each by "tilting". Armstrong's skills -plateaued, or worse degraded, other people passed him, and he now has the skill level of a D5 player. He's a D5 player now, and unless he gets his shit together he'll be a D5 player next season, maybe even P1 or 2. That isn't "tilting".
>>
>>159402152
Whats your build order?
>>
can i make 4 smurfs to set a club tag that i need? what level should be those?
>>
>>159402227
Bloodrazor Beserker's Runaan's. After that is entirely situational.
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>>159402008
it'll get better little yordle trust green papa.
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>>159402227
i rather wonder how he gets jungle so often
>>
>>159402212
He's back at D2 now I'm pretty sure. Anyway, I'm just trying to give you advice on how to win more games, take it or leave it.
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>>159399182
That sounds a little autistic.
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>>159401960
>armstrong
>1700 games
>d5
this guy is just bad and doesn't know how to play soloq
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which one of you faggots did this?
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Wow, Poppy is fun.

Just started playing her today as I'm thinking of going back to top as a secondary role.
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>>159402417
>no "infetterance"

that was the best part desu
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>>159402417
>>
>>159402417
me
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>>159402417
maximum kek
>>
>>159402498

I'm a support main but occasionally I will pick braindead top laners like Malph and Panth who are ez mode and can carry silver surfers in team fights

is poppy like that? is she easy to learn?
>>
>>159402739
>I'm a support main
>silver
>>
>>159402739
Played my first three games ever on her today and did well in all of them.
Very easy and very fun.
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Why would anyone do this to themselves?
>>
>Trundle
>balanced

oh I'm laughing
>>
>>159402837
ive dicked on the last 3 in a row with ignite
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Why is Ryze Brand's rival?
Anivia and Lissandra I understand... but the rune mage?
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MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN CHANGED

>Tilted as fuck
>8 game losing streak
>Totally forgot how to jungle
>Load into lobby as jungle becasue fuck it lets see how far we can tilt
>Nothing but chinese being spoken
>Try and flame them becasue if I'm tilted so will they
>They just all laugh me and type more moon speak
>Keep calling me sb (super boy)
>Top wukong feeding quin
>She's roaming and getting kills all across the map
>Bot not really feeding
>Still constant moon speak
>They actually all know how to focus shit in team fights and melt quinn
>Go back to farming when there's nothing to be done
>Nobody gets caught
>They keep the enemy at bay while I dragon
>Always follow up on baron calls
>We actually win

Maybe I kept losing becasue I was being so toxic but since I couldn't flame those guys I just focused on playing instead of flaming and spaming "open mid" in all chat

Thanks you Chinese for untilting me.
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>>159402910
Brand is jealous as shit of Ryze's beard.
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>>159402827
what a poor green soul
>>
>>159402910
He's blue, blue hates orange
>>
>>159402910
Brand hates blue. Damn bluiggers
>>
Who here /wantstodickezreal/?
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>>159376576
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>>159403002
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>>159402910
Ryze wants to save the world, brand wants to destroy it. Pretty simple actually.
>>
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Hey guy who wants the ADC GF I just played with this person who claimed that they were a girl http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=countrybacon and a masochist. They said that they were a 6/10 and needed to lose 10 lbs. So she's a fixer upper, but with her insecurities she'll be an easy if high maintenance lay. Oh and she hates Bard so she's red pilled.
>>
>>159402792
wat
>>
>>159403078
>Oh and she hates Bard so she's red pilled.
>red pilled
You're fucking retarded kid
>>
>>159382835
tfw they thought it was a good idea to solve the
>hundreds of langages to translate
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>>159403002
I want to dick his boipussy
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>>159403078
>Oh and she hates Bard so she's red pilled.

literally fucking what
>>
>>159402909
lol even with ignite and gw, he still dicks you while taking 0 ( z e r o ) damage
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>>159403053
>R63'ing Ezreal
Disgusting.
>>
Does Lissandra want a bf to cuddle with?
>>
>>159403078
6/10 you got some (you)'s
>>
>>159403352

stop playing poppy into trundle
>>
>>159403415
She's centuries old and extremely powerful, what use would she have for humans?
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>>159403495
DICK
>>
y'all motherfuckers need girlfriends
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>>159403352
im not playing tanks anon
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>>159403561
thanks captain
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>PBE
>Some guy is using a new skin
>Clearly he's never used the champion it's for
>Complaining in all chat about how useless the champion is

NO
YOU JUST DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING
STOP PLAYING A GODDAMN HYPERCARRY AS A LANE BULLY
>>
>>159403495
>She's centuries old and extremely powerful, what use would she have for humans?
somebody to pet her fluffy ears?
it's likely much less fun to pet them yourself
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>>159402939
>keeping your mouth shut and not throwing a fit is how you progress

man who knew
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>>159403561
I have a waifu already, anon.
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Someone explain how exactly Rengar is no longer unbalanceable cancer thanks to the update? The way I see it this is a Mordekaiser "rework" all over again. He is still cancerous and Riot will need to put him on the rework list later next year again.
>>
>>159403561

>want a girlfriend
>jerk off
>cum
>dont want girlfriend anymore

?
>>
>>159402792

i'm not silver though friendo
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>>159403751
>>159403751
>>159403751
>>159403751
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>>159403724
pretty much this
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>>159379419
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>>159402417
You do know that's a normie meme at this point

right?
>>
Any advice for playing jarvan?
>>
>>159402417
I laughed actually
>>
>>159403724
Watch this:

>Have a girlfriend
>Also be doing nofap
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>>159403002
maybe the only thing uselessreal is good for
>>
Hey guys Galio Fag here
I bought Galio yesterday and he's alot of fun to play because nobody expects him so i tend to win laning phase but i have a small problem

I can't win most games
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