/rlg/ - Roguelike General

>dance god lets you instantly kill anything
how is this balanced

>>159216364
if it was usable at any time as a point-and-click "REMOVE" button it would be OP but you have to get enough piety in a fight before you can use it

it's not like you can walk around a corner into an alich and instantly destroy it before it can do anything to you

>>159216364

Works well if you know how to speedrun while pretty shit if you don't a.k.a another God that takes a lot of skill to be useful besides Chei.

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>>159216364

>>159216364
>dance god
huh

Whats the max damage of the dance stomp?

>>159217864
1/6th of current hp + 2d(2+invo/2)

so at 27 invo it'll either do 2d16 or 2d15 damage

(that's 1/6th of the victim's hp, not the player's)

Looking for a team please. Why is it so hard to find one? Name is Hanibal.

>>159218235
So basically putting points in invo isnt worth it?

>>159219892
well info does a shitload of other stuff for tummygod as well, such as increasing the duration of the paralysis effect

So the only way to heal your broken limbs in cata is to use splints right?

>>159220571
Or go to a hospital computer terminal with high computer skill, iirc

>>159219892

You need Invo 18 for a 4% grand finale

>>159221595
Isnt grand finale entirely piety based

>>159221875

No.

>>159217078
POUND

Behead those who insult the mummy monk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

Crawl has a strong anti-scumming philosophy? I don't get it. I see a lot of scum features in Crawl that is outright ignored everyday.

>>159223156
Like

>>159223184
And subscribe

>>159223184
Abyss and Pan for one
Vampire/Mummy of Xom
etc

>>159223184

Abundance of consumables most especially recharge scrolls, cBlink, Shatter, Felid multiple lives, Regeneration, Deflect Missiles. Transmutations being too overpowered in general, Sif's literally unlimited mana pool at 15 or so Invo. There's a whole lot more that I forgot but I'm pretty sure there's only a few who actively voices out these very problematic features.

>>159223156
The philosophy is only used as an excuse by the devs to power trip while the players keep sucking their dicks. It's a bunch of meaningless garbage to trick people into thinking the game isn't being "developed" by retarded faggots and numale goons.

>>159223930
>>159223156
yes, if you want, you can go to a place harder than the final dungeon to... overprepare for the final dungeon...?

>vampire of Xom

enjoy boredom mutations and banishing

>mummy of Xom

semi workable I guess

>>159216364
>tfw it's basically a passive Zin recite but even stronger

>>159224265
Literally none of that has anything to do with scumming.

Scumming is engaging in super repetitive behavior to separate good random stuff from bad, like scumming it off the top.

The only elements in which you can do that are waiting for huge amounts of time (producing OoD monsters) and going to places harder than Zot... none of which is relevant, necessary, or even helpful to beating the game.

Man, do Centaur Warriors just instantly kill cheifags or am I just shit.

>>159224979
Depends on your background, but usually yeah

>>159225085
Cj, with just the starting book. Had a chance to get off One (1) Dazzling spray before he shot 8 arrows into my soft and silken flesh.

>>159224716

Scummy game features are IMPURITIES that should be purged immediately for variety of reasons which could be summed up to "it contributes to bad game design". What you're saying is included of course.

>>159210606
There's a solution:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/UrW_forum/index.php?s=2f072137bd84fa093144610dadcef5b3&showtopic=8073

Sami is going to fix it in the future releases, but this should work for now.

>>159225354

Player Gargoyle always uses Spell A (that is intentionally ignored by devs in charge of balance) regardless of what he's playing as since it has no drawbacks at practically no cost. This is scumming

Player Elven Wrist OP always uses Spell B (that is intentionally ignored by devs in charge of balance) regardless of exp cost because it trivializes almost the entire early game and even works decently in lategame/extended and is coincidentally in the same branch with the most powerful (but balanced) single target spell in the game. This is scumming.

MummyPro always press 5 and call himself a "looool no armor amirite" challenge race. This is scumming.

Offline tileshitter always has a backup save so he will always win. It has no visible drawbacks, very overpowered and can never be balanced. This is scumming.

>>159219892
It's good for invisible/high ev shit or just if you don't have cleave. Higher invo for better paralysis is great.

>>159221875
since your piety gain is basically 20%-max every fight whatever

>>159226519

The first three examples are not scumming of any kind.

Is you have wander spawns enabled, would it still be a good idea to make the shelter your home if there are no hordes around?

>>159226827
If*

>>159226519
>its scumming because its free and i dont like it
?=???????
I do agree with offline stuf tho, theres only one or two exceptions to play offline

>>159226827
Sure why not? Set the occasional fire to break your scent trail.

>>159223156
The game is really not what you would expect after reading the design philosophy doc

>>159226921
>>159226519
The idea that people usually play offline so they can savescum, rather than play offline so they don't have to deal with a brutally slow game experience, is misguided.

>>159226964
I don't see what the problem is there.

Note: Not defending BLOATCRIME = DOUBLEPLUSBAD in any way.

They're even getting better at deobfuscating mechanics.

>>159226921

Anything that encourages repetitive behavior is scumming. Habit A is practically free and overpowered anyway even if it's not free so Player Gargoyle will have a tendency to always use/do it. Anything that causes this anomalous and impure behavior should be purged and removed.

>>159227559
>Anything that encourages repetitive behavior is scumming.

No. That's not at all what scumming means.

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wtf tho

>>159227559
you can move twice in the same direction, therefore we must remove movement

>>159228315
Just make all the keybinds switch randomly after one is pressed, then you're never doing the same thing twice

>>159227969

It adds a decimal, not specified what exactly obviously.

>>159227184
>brutally slow game experience
You gotta pick a server on the same continent as you.

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My pet gave me this in the morning after sleeping
What did he mean by this

>>159227969
For some insane and bizarre reason, attribute bonuses are not bijective mappings from the internal, stored value to the actual value,

I fucked around with EloSnack a while back and like, having a +attribute effect with value 5 maps an in-game effect of attribute+1. 10 maps to +1, 100 maps to +3, 250 maps to +5, 255 and 256 both map to +6, 1000 maps to +11, 10000 maps to (IIRC) +21.

I assume this was an effort on Noa (or Ano)'s part to force a distribution of some sort (e.g. you don't have an equal chance of getting +1 and, say, +10), but they never forced a minimum bonus value.

tl;dr it rolled such a low effect magnitude that it ultimately gives +0.

>>159228484
Still too slow to be worth bothering, all for the sake of my E-peen

>>159229438
that is one of tyhe dumbest thinkg si 've ere hread in my inetier lrief f.

>>159229657
Try console.

We have two spare slots on Mummies With Aptitudes - M.W.A.
http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.19/clans/nikheizen.html

If you want to join, add the following line
# TEAMCAPTAIN nikheizen
to your 0.19 rcfile on your preferred server, then respond to this post with your ign and let me know you want to join.

Also if I missed you last thread, let me know.

>>159219028
Let me know if you want to join.

>>159229691
Not really, at least in concept. Like, not wanting an even distribution is pretty sensible for certain mechanics - 3d6 and 1d16+2 both get you a range of [3,18], but 3d6 is significantly more likely to result in a 10 or 11 roll than 1d16+2 (twice as likely, if I remember right), which has an even distribution of probabilities for all rolls.

So Noa/Ano/whoever probably didn't want an equal chance of an item rolling +1 and +INT_MAX (fun fact, pretty much all of Elona's math is done with integers, yes even the fractional stuff is actually an integer, your fucking attribute, atteibute exp, and potential are all actually just a single integer), because that would have an insane average value (basically (INT_MAX+1)/2, or around 1.05 billion) and did some math fuckery to ensure an unbalanced distribution (no idea what the actual distribution is, though.)

The actual execution of the math is bad though, of course, since it can result in a +0.

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>>159229691
how drunk are you mein friendo

>>159214786
Just saw you. Added.
1 space now.

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>>159230428
Also

>>159230754
Heh. Age, height, and weight have literally no mechanical effect in Elona, IIRC. (Gender, also.)

>>159230427
Yes I want to join.

>>159231438
I added you.
Should update the clan list within 4 hours.

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I think I figured out how to play hand of the dead.
I went through three different soul armors.

>>159231832
I mean you can just pick any old ability. Hand of the Dead is only good for Terrifying though.

On that note, you can make quick bank off of recycle if you kill an enemy summoner and recruit their more-leveled demons, like say a modified level eight raicho from Ludoc.

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>>159215728

>>159230427

Invite me please.

Username is Lemonizer

>>159234295
I HARDLY KNOW HER

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>>159234448

Do you think DDA players would cum in their pants at a 'brand loyal' negative trait?

>ever since you were young, you were in love with XXXX brand guns. Using weapons produced by inferior manufacturers is unthinkable to you. Take a morale hit everytime you fire a weapon not produced by the manufacturer of the first gun you fire.

I'd do it with cars/engines, but the game doesn't really have Ford vs Dodge. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, there's people that get into fist fights over who has the best trucks. Could even call it Skyb enthusiast.

>>159234295
Cool. We're full now.

>>159227184
I just do it so I won't get laughed at

>>159227485
>They're even getting better at deobfuscating mechanics.
Some RLs are best played with minimal spoilers, I wouldn't put DCSS on that list

I haven't touched it in a couple versions tho

>>159234810

DDA has no brands though. Do not try to force realism in a work of fiction.

so do we have more than one team or what

>>159234954
>remington
>kel-tec
>antique
>etc
Anon, are you even trying? DDA community is full of gun nuts.

>>159234906
>Some RLs are best played with minimal spoilers, I wouldn't put DCSS on that list
>I haven't touched it in a couple versions tho

You used to have to look up mindelay, monster spells, monster AC, monster ev, monster HP, and dex/str weights online to find out such things.

>>159234979
I've joined one, but IIRC I'm the only member to visit this thread,

>>159234979
You can make another at any time, anon.

>>159227184
This might be shocking in this day and age but some people don't have 100% internet connectivity, as well. I play offline because sometimes that's all I have.

So can I queue up a game before the start of the tournament, and have it count towards my score if I end it after the tournament starts?

>>159235017

I see no brand on cars, clothing brands, home tools in there where the bloat is concentrated. If one or two of your features have brands while the others don't, it is clearly an indication of bad game design. That's why it is better to not force realism and other unnecessary things like brands in a work of fiction.

>>159235340
muh bloat

>>159235272
No.

>>159235340
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about?

Guns are branded in DDA. Literal fucking make, make, and year. That's what the bad trait pertains to.

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>>159223930
>Mummy of Xom
>scum feature

>>159235775
Guns are branded.

>>159215556
So how is nethack? I never played it because the idea of having to know specific spoilers has always put me off.

>>159235876
Very spoiler heavy. Spoilers tend to make it trivial.

>>159235857
Guns are branded
Other things aren't branded
Guns are branded
Other things aren't branded
Guns are branded
Other things aren't branded

Okay, I just covered the last 4 posts and innumerable ones to follow. You don't have to follow through with it any more.

>>159234810
Seems like it wouldn't matter too much because of how morale works (unless using a gun you dislike makes you more upset than murdering someone, which would be kind of funny).

Actually maybe it could work as a profession trait, on one that starts with a gun and can't use (at all) other brands.

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>>159235857

You're not getting my point. Bias on which feature/s gets brands is a clear indication of bad game design you might as well have nothing at all.

>>159236042
>>159235997
Guns are branded. I didn't say it's good or bad. They're branded and the trait has to deal with that. The fact that other things aren't isn't relevant. Guns are, and the trait involves guns. Be dense all you want.

>>159236010
I was just leaving it open ended so it didn't require any special spawn gifts. I tend to think professions should determine more than they do currently.

>>159235791
You can stay in the temple until you have full randart gear and 10k gold

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>>159235978
so is it actually any fun to play then? Sounds like my options are either playing unspoiled and just losing for retarded and arbitrary reasons I couldn't possibly have prepared for, or spoiling it for myself and then it's no fun anyways.

>>159235017
Community maybe, but the devs (or at least mugling) are hardcore against any sort of realism in their gameplay (literally one of the more argumentative issues on the github rn is whether or not the M4A1 should be allowed to fit STANAG-compatible drum magazines. Everyone sane is saying "yes", mugling says "no, because the gun loses any sort of unique properties if it can use STANAG magazines like all the other STANAG-compatible guns already in CDDA". He even bitched about how he went out of his way to make 7.62 NATO magazines hold 30rds (and thus oversized so they couldn't fit in standard magazine pouches) but then some autist went and committed a change resizing the mags to real-world fit (that is, 20 rounds)

Like, the devs are very biased in favor of "muh gameplay" when it comes to how guns work (and combat in general), but then they want "muh simulationist realism" when it comes to other shit (e.g. nutrition, gun names/variety, bullets, magazines, clipz, even ammo belts, etc.), and it leaves the balancing all over the damn place, and they think this is okay because "muh fun"

>>159236393
You'll die to dumb shit you didn't know or didn't prepare for.

>>159236378
You'll be cast into the abyss long before that happens.

>>159234810
>>159235017
>>159235443
you do know there's a mod (in mainline, so it's supported by devs) specifically to genericize guns (and I think ammo)?

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>>159236479
yeah thats lame. I guess i'll just play angband instead, DCSS has grown stale.

>>159236475
The whole thing is fucked up, honestly.

>>159236739
Yes. And I'd use it more if it didn't constantly cause spawn warnings. The mod system is their pussy way of saying 'we dont have to commit to a direction'. I'd prefer they parred everything down to generics, but as current, it's not like that. So I'm working with what I have.

If your point is that there are things that would be functionally redundant/impossible when used in combination, there's already stuff in default that does that.

>>159236042
Drugs and books often have real-world names, though I think all of those date back to whales.

>>159236963
>commit to a direction

Its a fucking sandbox, dude. By no means should they try to make it Horizontal Dungeon Crawl.

>>159237219
>having a standard design philosophy is trying to recreate Crawl
You need to get out more.

>>159236475
>the devs (or at least mugling) are hardcore against any sort of realism in their gameplay
You mean excepting mugling? The dude coded filth and he's also hardcore into the vitamin balance thing.

>Make custom class in Poschengband
>Seems to work ok, but after death it doesn't go to death screen
>No exceptions, no crashes, exit code 0

Perhaps I missing some case-statement.
At least the potion-list works now... Sort of.

>>159237423
You should try to make it do that when you generate the character.

>>159237423
Guess: do you have your class level titles? I think those only show up on the death screen now

>>159237423
Old games programmed in C, not even once.

>>159229324
what game is that?

Can someone post the picture of the MuMo saying 'Get dat fuckin orb'?

I need it for reasons I cannot quite explain.

>>159237310
Like I said, they want hardcore simulationist realism in everything *except* combat gameplay.

>>159237219
>>159237297
It's really fucking asinine; they want to eat their cake and have it too.

>>159236393
Trick with spoilerless nethack is that you will die often, but every time you die you will learn something new about the game. Replays aren't half as boring as dcss.

>>159237297
Cutting mass amounts of content to impose some random ass dev's arbitrary vision on what a game other people have made should be is Dungeon Crawl-tastic, yes.

>>159237818
Follow the reply chain, bruddy.

>>159237908
It's really annoying when you see someone say enemies with guns are unbalanced or too difficult or too penalizing to melee etc and someone like Rivet responds with "Working as intended."

>>159237818
Elona+

>>159237990
No one said anything about cutting content, moron. They could just as easily choose to standardize design philosophy towards realism to curtail using "muh gameplay" as an arguing point, and basically not cut anything, since that's basically already the direction the game is tilted towards - if anything it would mean making *more* content to degenericize stuff. Not that CDDA needs more content imho - it needs fucking bugfixes and features to be finished and balancing in some form or another much more badly than it needs content.

>>159229324

it roughly translates to "evoking feet is gay"

>>159238297
It needs end game and NPC content. The original goal was to move towards dealing with the cthulhu shit and NPC factions over just regular zombies. Though the zombie evolution thing is kinda spitting in the face of that.

>>159237990
God forbid dumb shit be removed. We should cater to EVERYONE. We need more branded parts.

Let's see how massive and bloated we can make the world generator, guy. Let's make it as easy as possible to fill the mods system with 140 character non-descriptions for 'rebalanced' and 'requires another mod'

You're the kind of ineffectual faggot that makes semantics arguments when there are no arguments to be had.

As currently, guns are branded. I couldn't give less of a shit if people like that or hate it. The current situation is that they are. So a bad trait that gives morale malus for using non-brand favored guns is entirely reasonable.

>>159238084
See, as a realismfag I'm annoyed from the other direction, like when someone fixes 7.62 NATO mags (designed for the SCAR-H) to have 20rds instead of 30rds and then you see mugling passive-aggeessively whine about how he intentional made the mags be 30rds and not fit in magazine pouches because that somehow meaningfully differentiates guns or something.

Like, fuck man, if you don't want your shit to match reality, why'd you go naming everything after real shot in the first place? Of course some well-meaning gun autist is going to fix the unrealisms, it's not like they'd fucking know your design intent if you didn't specifically call it out in your code or like... literally anywhere visible at all.

>>159238524

>You're the kind of ineffectual faggot that makes semantics arguments when there are no arguments to be had.

Guess I touched a sore spot.

>>159238670
I don't really get why he wants those rounds to be annoying.

>>159238524
I like bloat.

>>159239080
>we have to make all the guns unique to justify them existing
They've chosen a really stupid route and they have to rationalize it constantly.

>>159238524
Guns aren't branded. Their *name* might include a brand, but there's no actual brand tag or value in the data for a given gun. I could just make a Heckler & Wesson Colt MP-44 Magnum and what fucking brand would that fall under? Or like, what about the Saiga-12, which doesn't indicate its brand in the name at all?

So there's no real way of making your trait unless

a. a brand tag is added to weapons, and that probably means altering the serializer to de/serialize this data; and every weapon that has a brand has its brand tag filled. Player will also need a favored brand tag/variable stored somewhere.

b. substring search every weapon name on equip/use, but only if the player has the trait, and match it to a "favored brand" variable stored somewhere.

c. Hardcode all possible brands and the items that could match to those brands (probably using something like an unordered map of items to brands), and again do a check everytime an item is equipped/used, against the player's favored brand variable stored somewhere.

>>159239480
>he thinks autists don't love compounding work

Level 1 druj nasu:

HP: ~33

S: 4
M: 11
V: 13
A: 4
C: 23

If you know what it is then you should know what it's good for.

Any noteworthy Demon updates lately?

>>159240857
Player ghosts "soon".

>>159241039
Trash.

How much worse is ozocubu's armour now that it slows movement? I used to consider it essential. Still essential? Situational? Don't use it?

>>159240857
new ultra rare mummy monk unique

>>159236629
Xom doesn't cast you in the abyss anymore.
The XomMuScum is technically feasible.
it just takes a long ass time.

>>159241601
>xom doesn't cast you to the abyss anymore
cavemanspongebob.avi

>>159241451
It's good for chei piety.

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>>159237902
I don't have it, but I have this

>>159241856
well im doing a KoCj of Sif right now. btw does Invo do anything for new Sif?

>>159242378
If sif still have invocations, then yes. I think you can still channel energy even though you get the divine reservoir.

>>159241451
Still great on some builds.
If Wudzu + spiderform or blade hands too — fuck everything you're a killing machine.

>>159241451
>How much worse is ozocubu's armour now that it slows movement?
Wait they changed that? Why? The drawback to Ozocubu's is that three mana is a decent amount before you get more than 15 mana and you had to invest in charms in order to get it to be decent. It doesn't need an additional drawback/cost

Crawl devs are more retarded than I thought.

>>159242658
It was an incredibly good spell before, and still very good overall. Now regardless of your specific philosophy on balance it's not like the spell has been broken or anything.

>>159242658
Check the spells they have axed around the same time.

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>>159242378
It gives you better mana regen. Which can be nice if you don't want to have the -cast from divine reservoir.

>>159242779
>Now regardless of your specific philosophy on balance it's not like the spell has been broken or anything.
I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like a really dumb and unnecessary change.

>>159242921
It's yet an another in a long series of changes where the crawldevs are constantly decreasing the things magic can do outside direct killdudes.

How do I look up a message log from a recently killed character on crawl?

I want to see the 3 max damage hits I took in a row.

>>159241907
Man, now I need to go fap to some gynoids/robutts. Thanks for dredging up those memories.

>>159243286
You can't pull up the whole message log, but you can download the video of your game and parse it yourself.
If you've been playing online, of course.

>>159243493
I have been playing online. I'm pretty sure morgue files include at least the final 3 dozen messages in your log.

>>159243585
The final ones — of course. To get them, you use the webtiles bot (need to subscribe first or have the most spectators, then it'll come to your game) or the IRC channel.
There you use:
!log .
^this shows your last death
!log . defe xl>10 place=v:5
^or like this if you want to find a specific game, there are lots of possible search keywords.

>>159243898
I found it. All I wanted was the url to the morgue files. Thanks for nothing.

>>159243995
Well, !log . would give you the specific url.
Good luck.

What is icky wield?

>>159240816
That's a big Cun.

>.19 tournament page has recent games played
Hold on. I thought that wasn't going to start until tomorrow.

Are they going to be wiped? I don't want to tank my stats yet.

>>159244402
Read the big notice at the top of /overview.html

>>159244370
I suspect that it favors cunning the most out of all demons.

>>159244516
Oh thank god. I usually just change the version number before my name. Haven't looked at overview in probably a year.

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feels good

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>The ice breaks and you fall in the freezing water!
>You feel bitterly cold.
>You struggle in the water with your last bit of strength! You are in danger of drowning!
>Swimming skill: 3% (unskilled)

Ayy perkele.

>>159245638
>flame
What, can't find a -3 short sword to out do it?

>>159244097
It's what keeps ninjas give in exchange for abilities like instant teleport, phase door, bonus speed, and permanent stealth.

>>159246134
you stop :_ )

>>159244097
it means that your class doesn't like that weapon

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Now that the create infusions works, I can move onto the other stuff.
I wonder if evaporate should scale... Like three/two tiers for each potion. Make shitty early potions more potent in end, and make potent potions less powerful in early game.

>>159247332
what is this, sempai

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>The Deep Elf stands up

>>159247792
it looks like he is making his own game, anon

>>159247832
pure anime combat.

what are you playing? a deep elf necro of chei?

>>159247792
he is modding poschengband

>>159247332
>tfw no more evaporate in dcss

possibly my favorite thing they've cut. that and hive

>>159247792
Making a custom class in Poschengband fork of mine, just to see what I could do.
I will throw binaries/source once I am done with it.
Changenotes so far:
> Nexus cannot stat-swap at all if you have nexus resistance. I will probably reduce chance even if you don't have, I guess.
> Option for 'simple stat display', which display stats in 3-40 format instead of 3-18/220
> The XP curve is stupidly eased up. While it doesn't feel that much in early game, it kicks in mid-end game ( 35 requiring about 50% xp, 50 35% ). I'll have to figure how I'll change up androids. Maybe make eating ego-items way of leveling.
> Easy id as default.
> Some nerfs to angry early-game uniques, so far only Gachapin and Grendel.
> Trying to make item grind bit easier some way. Perhaps more tailored items?
As for additions:
> An unique d:85 monster - immobile, releases something ANGRY when killed
> Alchemist-class, still WIP. In nutshell:
>-- Good at melee, somewhat good in stealth etc., bad in devices and whatnot
>-- Abilities is Magic Eater-esque internal list of potions, using potions/list to create balls of effects ( potion of death --> death ray ), alchemy and increasing potion-stack in internal list ( meaning that you need to have it in the list )

I might have done something else but that's from top of my head.

>>159247871
I had a roguelike project, but it kinda didn't go anywhere.

>>159248484
I miss it too.

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>>159243337
You're welcome!

>>159247971
DeCj of Sif, gifted DD and now I'm working to make fire storm happen. Stood completely still and blasted the fucking shit out of Lenny, didn't even need to channel magic.

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Where do roguelikes fall on this chart?

Someone posted about a crash when gaining a level from a Monolith a while ago (in IA).

This has been fixed now:
https://github.com/martin-tornqvist/ia/commit/9b12edf21081eac907a8f4840ebb915076b97e34

>>159249651
You need to go back to fourth grade math class.

>D2 hobgobbo with a laj
wow
free laj

>>159249651
t-thats not hhow you do a chart

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>>159249651
Those axes makes no sense.

X axis: "Not time consuming" - "Fun"

Y axis: "Fun" - "Time consuming"

>>159249651
sadly, this: >>159249747

>>159249651
in a way, RPGs are both very fun and very unfun.

>>159249651
I think you forgot to carry the three and square the entire equation when making that chart.

>>159250386
>>159250247
>>159250224
>>159250181
I'd like to assume it's an elaborate joke about folding the graph, but I'm not able to give a random graph about video games the benefit of the doubt.

>>159250475
there was a 33% chance it was a ruse

>>159249651
... Is that loss.jpg?

DID THE DCSS TOURNAMENT START ALREADY

>>159250690
anon clearly there was 50%
either a ruse or not

>>159250903
there's a 1 in 3 (three) chance that he could have made that as a ruse but didn't really know how to make a chart anyway

>>159251176
im just pretending to be retarded mate
merely pretending i swear

the chart anon though...

>>159250891
No.
>>159250903
>>159251176
Please no more statistics or probability on /rlg/.
Please.

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>find ring of +4 EV
>find +2 gloves of dex
>grinder comes into view
>quaffs haste

I couldn't even get to the stairs.
This is worse than murder.
He murdered my dreams.

>>159251429
then why are my deaths recorded in the clan page

>>159219028
>>159231438
Hanibal, if you see this, you fucked up your rcfile line.
Make sure to put the line at the top of your rc, not the bottom.

>>159251525
See: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.19/overview.html
>The tournament scripts are currently being tested for bugs! All data on these pages will be blanked before tournament start.

>>159249651
This "chart" frustrated me way more than it should have. I have a tendency to just assume i'm retarded, rather than what i'm looking at, so I sat here for a good 3 minutes trying to understand it, and questioning everything i've ever known. fuck you anon.

>>159251861
had me worried there for a minutee

>>159248572
I'm sold. Drop that shit when you end here and I'll get it.

>>159251750
Just did senpai

>>159215556
>IA 19.0 beta (9b12edf) Windows
http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/SLn9DYZx/file.html

>>159250706
FUCK; now I'm seeing it, too.

>>159245638
my acquirement game is lit af this game

amulet of Amneeqoa {Faith rF+ rC+ rN+ Slay+2}

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Looks like we've got ourselves a badass over here.

>>159253246
break his fucking legs

>>159253246
Screw him.

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>woops, here's a D5 wyvern
>better read fear
>oh man that was close
>oh hey here's a shaft that brought me from D:6 to D:9
>Oh hey I managed to get back up
>what is this, a sentinel's mark on a partially unexplored dungeon level right next to a sleeping sky beast? Oh that's jolly good
>oh hey is the same wyvern again

>>159252114
Nice work!

I've been looking at using Travis to automatically make new releases each time I push to Github (for Windows and Linux if possible).

Don't know if or when it will work, but it would be convenient as hell. Seems almost too good to be true.

>>159249651
I think there's something wrong with that chart

>>159250706
>>159252259
what's loss.jpg

>>159255491
Bait

>>159255491
A dead horse.

>>159255714
did man prince (actually a horse) die

>>159255771
We shall neigh'er know

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Oh christ this is pretty painful.

>>159256763
C++

>>159256763
I read "Potion of Ruination" as "Potion of Urination"

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>go into lair
>two spiny frogs and two porcupines
Who ordered the Donte L:1 starting pack

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When you find two strength potions and one life potion on depth 1

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There's a chance I'm already dead

I need a fucking helmet or something

My head is always the part that takes most damage and I get killed because of it

Also, zombie soldier are stronger than I thought

>>159258326
Just put a pot on.

>>159258137
O boy, making orc 2 floors deep was a really nice change xd
Stupid devs i swear to god

>>159258635
I'll remember that next time I find a pot

>>159258326
Usually it's not too difficult to find a bike helmet or a hard hat or something in houses.

>Also, zombie soldier are stronger than I thought
You need to use bashing weapons because they have enough cutting resistance to resist spears, knives and small caliber guns.

>>159258851
Well it wasn't that bad, I actually survived because I read fear.
But the two double ogre resisted and killed me while I went up the second set of stairs

>>159259000
Seems like nothing really has much bashing resistance.

>>159259000
I see, I should have used the cudgel then.

>>159259178
bash strong
me bash
me strong

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>searching for pan runes
>crossing like 20 portals a minute, still nothing
>suddenly get here when I'm actually retreating

At least I'm at full health...

>>159259452
>triple sword of cis hate

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>when you meet the ghost of the MiBe the kid who is spectating you played and he starts insulting you

>>159259452
>triple sword of cis
check your privilege hi-elf scum

>>159259896
Because you killed his ghost?
he should thank you nobody else saw his shame

>>159258851
There wasn't much point in making you wade through several floors of orcs. I think they should have just evened out the difficulty difference between the upper floors and the bottom floor.

>>159260115
There was, 2 floor deep orc is a death trap in 60, 70% cases if you arent sure what you are doing, usually because well, you know how the last floor of orc was before, either ogres or all ranged with cbows and bows centaur/knights/other shit or the pan floor one, etc.. Its just retarded change and having only one stairs on orc:1 is really common now which is even more retarded and just not fun to clear orc nowdays

orc was pointless since the beginning.
pure fucking bloat.

>>159256763
that's not even one of the really bad parts of pcb source

my favorite is when you can't find a thing but then it turns out the variable name is the thing's name from the japanese hangband version

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>go to a football field
>four zombie masters there evolving all the brutes
I think I'll leave and never go anywhere near again.

>>159259452
>unhasted
fault

>>159256763
that really doesn't look bad at all desu, esp for c++, esp for a roguelike.

> the +0 pair of boots of the Evening {*Slow rF+++ rC++ rCorr}

fuck. how bad is *slow? could these be better than +2 boots of running?

>>159261563
nothing is better than running

>>159261563
Those are some halal boots

>>159252114
Is my anti virus trolling me or is this actually malware?

>>159261917
don't download it it's the filthy frank anime intro

>>159261563
if you need to, you can remove the slow with the rareish !cancellation, so it's worse than *confuse was but nowhere near as dangerous as *zerk

>>159260915
i thought zangband was the one with the japanese version

>>159261662

i guess that's what i was thinking :\

>>159262440
good to know... I already burned most of my cancellation potions in vaults on sentinels marks

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>>159262580
there may have also been one of Z? I don't know, but the Japanese still play Hengband. This freaky metal babble image in from a japanese hengband player who tweets some of his artwork (some of it is really cool)

>>159262580
also heng is descended from Z

>>159261917
Your antivirus is probably shit. Check it on virustotal.com if you don't trust me (which you shouldn't!).

>>159254283
Yeah that'd be cool.
I know crawl uses travis to test if builds compile. CDDA uses something called Jeeves to compile their experimentals. Not sure what Angband uses for their nightlies.

>>159262923
well duh everybody knows the history of pseudo-elliptic-marvinpa-posessor-chris-hsomething-zelazy-angband

but yeh it looks like actually both z and h were developed by japanese devs

>>159263180
>hsomething
look at this guy
I bet he doesn't even fist his babble

>>159262974
>http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/SLn9DYZx/file.html
yeah, my anti virus is clearly shite
there is nothing wrong with that link

Is haste removal just a nerf to players....
....or a Chei buff?

>>159263405
Cannot tell if you are being ironic or sincere.

>>159263510
sincere actually
just realized how that came across once I hit post

>>159263593
link the virustotalr esult page you dingus

Is there any point on using crystal plate armour?
Investing so much armour and dodging seems extremely inefficient.

>>159264074
Unless you're a MiBe

>>159264074
not if you have other shit to spend xp on

if your a mi or a be you might as well though

>>159264256
I'm a HOFi so its ok.

>>159260840
Orc introduces a healthy dosage of consistency into the game.

>>159263593
Cool. I'll keep uploading the builds irregularly until the dev sets up an automatic build system. I'll make sure to run a virustotal check next time and include that info.

>>159264074
No, gda is better in every way, unless youre a Gr or you get a sweet randart one

>>159248572
is it forking vanilla pcb or pseudo

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>>159237902

>>159261507
Well, yeah. Although I had to do ton of copy-pasting.
But worst is >>159260915

>>159265004
Vanilla.
I am make binaries and throw source up on github or something if someone wants to copy&paste parts of it, but I am not doing that serious forking. Just for myself.

>>159264795
>better in every way
it's better resists in exchange for worse AC and higher skill requirements

if you already have enough resists and don't need any more cpa is better, obviously

>>159260915
Also good is weird half-implemented things.

Like, there's code for a mighty_throw attribute to increase damage of thrown things, but I don't see a way for the player to ever obtain it.

>>159264518
>muh endless waves of orcs
>muh stores
>muh wacky stairs

So, shelters that are filled with a lot of stuff tend to also have a zombie in it, right?

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Even when I considered for a moment to change gods for extended, Oka remained as the True God of Gods.
I respect him and the +10 Triple Sword of .2 auts he gave me.

the post ironic new sincerity bloatposts have drawn in legitimate satanists from the devil's team who now feel welcome
i feel alone in my own general

A npc just spawned in the basement of the shelter

I didn't know this could happen

>>159266920
They automatically spawn near you, basically. Anywhere you are.

>>159266826
I always loudly declare my love of bloat and watch them sperg.

Do you guys play the current release of PCB or the stable one?

>>159267117
Oh, that explains it

Well now that I have someone to help me I may be able to last atleast four days

>>159264074
Well, in this run >>159266725 I actually had one on, but it was mostly because every randart I found had +STR.

>>159267253
always use the latest of all software in all situations except crawl and utorrent

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>>159267501
>utorrent

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Anyone interested in duct-taping together a second /rlg/ team should reply with their name. You don't need to be good. You don't need a good connection. You just need to be yourself.

#TEAMCAPTAIN RobertPalmer in your RC file.

Team name will be "Just MuCK my Shrike up" if nobody else has a less on-the-nose suggestion.

>>159267641
don't paralyze me bro
it's just a meme

>>159267820
>You don't need to be good. You don't need a good connection. You just need to be yourself.
that's not how winning is done!

>>159268806

Beta attitudes for beta teams ;^)

>be myself
>go to jail
wow

>be myself
>have autism
wow

>be myself
>play roguelikes
good

>>159268976
>be someone else
>go to jail for identity theft

woooooooooooooooooooooow

>be ring
>The battle-scarred veteran sees you for what you are!
>die

wow

>be sick
>have a fever dream about being a little happy-go-lucky catgirl with soft squishy hands
fucking awesome

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>be anon
>shitpost with tums
>others join in

so good

>>159269703
Dreaming the life.

>be memer
>force a meme
>everyone joins
heck yeah

Well that was an entertaining fault. Was playing offline earlier and between the dark blue on black and my incredibly shitty monitor I died due to walking into an asshole Jumping Spider and getting taken from behind by the Redback I was running from.

Other than that, SpAs^Usk is kinda neat, if incredibly fragile. You can chain ** almost back to back against a single target and of course it's pretty awesome chewing up an entire yak pack that's been paralyzed.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c__dFYbErxg

>You'll never have a gang of MuMo to protect you from harm

>>159270196
>Was playing offline earlier
you lost me

>>159270339
I don't know enough anime to know if that's an edit or if someone actually made a comic where the DCSS gods are cute girls. I figure the former is more likely but you never know.

>>159270339
>female trog
I am not fine with this.

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staff of summon monsters can apparently create uniques

too bad he costs approximately 500% of my mana regen to upkeep

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>>159270579
trog is canonically an angry little loli

>>159270447
I've got a pretty fucked up computer/internet situation in general but dammit if I'm not going to get my alphabet soup games.

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>>159270835
this is factually correct

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randart name generator is on point today

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And that's out of the way. Now to make methods for breaking down potions for chemicals.

>>159270339
This is some next level mummykino
also
>ancient egyptian vehicles
what the fuck

Aaaaagghh when will the tournament start I already want to farm

>>159270835
Is there any god that isn't a cute little loli?

>>159271185
this one is p. disapponting though

my android magiceater wants that *elec

>>159271424
Jiyva is a chubby CC with fat tits and a motherly smile.

TSO and Mahkleb are both teenage tomboys with a fierce attitude and abs.

Lugonu is a shapeshifter but generally maintains the form of an oppai loli.

>>159270835
>>159271043
Stop.
STOP.
--Press space to continue--
STOP
TROG IS NOT A GIRL

>>159271185
wow

>>159271714
secret to (nonrandart) android is to just find vilya clearly

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>>159271971
Vehumet please leave

>>159271918
I need source of this.

>>159271918
>CC
What is that?

>>159271918
>oppai loli
mmmh yiss

>>159272282
Christmas Cake, Japanese term for an older (30- early 40's) lady that's unmarried and generally lonely.

>>159271971
>replies to image of a qt balrog girl
>talks about trog

has rlg played so much of scumbloat removal simulator that they it forgot anything else exists

>>159272113
TROG AND OKAWARU = MANLY MEN
Vehumet = male, Sif muna = female
Elyvilon is a qt girl
Ashenzari = male.
Lugonu = female.
Yred = male skeleton
Kiku = male lich
Xom = male
Makhleb = male demon
Chei = male snail
Fedhas = plant
Zin = male
The shining one = male
Jiyva = slime
Beogh = male orc
Nemelex = male

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cute

>>159272103
i think "find the best ring in the game" is a good strategy for any race tbqh

>>159272617
That doesn't look like a balrog

>>159272617
to be fair, I posted the qt balrog while voicing my message of support for the obvious fact of qt trog

>>159272810
nah it is a balrog
the one ring reference on the shirt gives it away too

>>159272684
Nah, I prefer the "everyone is a loli" version.

>>159272684
Please discard this post

So what happens to my current game when the tournament starts?

Does it not count towards the tournament? Should I just finish it ASAP or ctrl+q?

>>159272909
How does loli Oka look?

>>159272684
>Ashenzari = male
nah she's a degenerate bdsm fetishist

>>159272909
>>159272942
What the heck is wrong with you!? Crawl is a wholesome game for normal, healthy people.

>>159273006
Oka is a heavily armored loli with her visor constantly falling in front of her face, she's very brave and stoic but self conscious of her hips.

>>159272971
Indeed, you have to have started the game after the tournament has begun.

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>>159272571
Technically CCs can be as young as 25-26 since they are called CCs because no one wants them after the 25th.

wwwwwwwwww

>>159273335
Stop bullying the Gods ;_;

I want to fuck Qazlal.

>>159273335
oka is a senile old man who decides to give his follower a gift, rummages through his attic, and tosses down the first random +0 hat he finds thinking it'll be just what they wanted

>>159273605
Please stop this reddit autism

Roguelike LN when

Excuse me how do I include my offline init file in the rc file when playing webtiles?

>>159273974
this is a fantastic idea

>>159272684
This is a really gay pantheon.

>>159273974
When we actually get a jap drawfag into roguelikes.
At this point in time, we only have spaniards, mexicans, chileans and argentinians. So we might get a roguelike telenovela instead.

>>159274108
The ultimate existence has no need for reproduction.

>>159273985
what

your online init file IS the rc
those are two terms for the same thing

>>159274224
i'm ok with a telenovela, i want to see some melodrama and some brutal booty

>>159274224
>so we might get a roguelike telenovela instead
Eh, podria ser peor

do Fo still get crossbow penalties with a shield?

>>159274224
I think I am the only spic here.
This thread is full of drunk slavs, so we can make a..
what the fuck do slavs watch?