/wowsg/ - World of Warships Admiral

did the russian fleet even do anything during ww2

>>159100341
Escorted convoys and brought supplies into leningrad komrade.

>>159100341
bombard cities and shoot down planes and thats about it

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>start down the german dreadnought line
>nassau is actually really good for a t3
>also doing well with kaiser at t4
>also doing well with konig at t5
>spring for a scharnhorst because i hear they're decent
>suddenly i'm making stupid plays, overextending, walking into torpedoes, and generally being completely retarded

>>159100109
It's cute because he has literal autism and can't find ways to talk to people.

>>159100341
Submerged but still firing.

first for forever shit

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>>159100341
>did the russian navy...
lol no
see this pasta? you've seen it before. they were like this in the sino-japanese war, in world war 1, in world war 2, in the cold war, and even now they're struggling to go from fucking petrograd to the fucking med because all their ships are rusting apart and they scrapped all their oilers

the russians only have enough economy to make one branch of their military relevant. the rest are purely defensive or purely for show.

What's the verdict on the Belfast? Is it just a better Atlanta?

>>159099856
Their current incarnation feels as fragile as DDs when they still had citadels. Spamming HE all game is boring as fuck, and you can't really afford to get into AP duels with other cruisers because it raises your risk of getting deleted from "lucky citadel" to "shell connects with your ship".

Once battleships get speedy at higher tiers I feel there's little reward to playing cruisers.

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>tfw a friendly DD smokes you after the moves in on the point you just helped cap

>>159100854
>Once battleships get speedy at higher tiers I feel there's little reward to playing cruisers.

This, basically. Don't play cruisers past about tier 5. You're exactly as fragile as a destroyer (ie stray shots hurt, connecting volley deletes), but without the concealment and speed. Until WG does something to make BBs not instantly delete cruisers, you're really better off playing a battleship of some flavour.

>>159101075
I like tier 5 because the classes still kinda work. DDs do their thing in a variety of flavors, carriers are still around (although tier 3 and 4 AA is probably too weak on most ships), and many cruisers can still kite battleships or at least avoid ridiculous damage as long as they don't show their sides.

Ships are still different enough to have distinct roles. Konig shits on Kongo, Kongo bullies cruisers, and cruisers burn down Konig.

what's so good about flat arcs

>>159101709
closer to the heart

>>159101709
easier to hit with

>>159101709
Easier to hit with. On the USN destroyers and late-tier cruisers especially, you need to zoom out your gunsight to actually get any use out of your target markers.

>Try to grind Mogami
>WG gave every player 250 premium repairs

Th-thanks...

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BALANS

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Tiger when.

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If Atago is my shipfu will I like the Myoko

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Well, these should last me a while.

>>159104321
yes they're pretty similar
just without heal and better MM, and worse turning turrets
very comfy bote

>>159104321
>if I like a fat tittied whore, will I like a hungry wolf

gee

>>159104504
YOU TAKE THAT BACK CUNT

>>159104429
Thank you famalama

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>>159101075

This only really applies to cruisers from tier 7-9, and then not exclusively since the Atago and Kutuzov are both conveniently amazing.

Tier 10 is just a massive escalation in the strength of cruisers. Zao, DM, Moskva are all wickedly strong compared to their tier 9 counterparts. This isn't to say don't get deleted if you misplay them, but they are definitely on par with the best battleships and destroyers at T10.

If you're going to play cruisers, go all the way.

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>>159104570
TITTY MONSTER

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>>159056991
>>159057408
>>159059042
mfw #10 aggregate and #5 solo, top for QTest, Zao, Commerce raider twins, and Atlanta.

I have 3 skills on my VMF DD captain right now, should I get AFT next or get EM? I heard traverse time can be an issue on the Gnevny which i just got, what about the ones further on?

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>>159104570
no

>>159104321
No. Myoko is like Atago's ugly, retarded little sister. The firing arcs you're used to on Atago are cut by tens of degrees on Myoko, and her turret traverse is fucking GLACIAL. She also doesn't have the forward facing torp tubes so they're only half as useful.

>>159104607
>Tier 10 cruisers are great
>but getting to them is suffering
no thanks

>>159104797
Where did she get the milk?

>>159104797
who's her supplier?

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oy vey

How is everyone coming on their Takao mission?

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>>159104607
This desu, I can understand people calling the Ibuki or Baltimore or Hipper underwhelming, and the CAs there are kind of meh, but T10 is a whole different story.
It's what I've never really understood about people calling high tier CAs useless, like sure they're garbage if you're awful at cruisers but if you have any idea of what you're doing (and you should by that point) T10 CAs can be stupidly good, and probably the most fun I've found so far in T10.

>>159105008
With the force of a thousand suns

>>159100771
A strong ship that can do great things with its consumables. It does have counters though: any CA or a quick BB rushing its smoke.

Pretty much everyone does better in Belfast than in their other T7 cruisers. That should tell you something.

>>159104321
Without CE you simply can't play Myoko's concealment in the same way as you can with Atago's. The poor turret traverse is very frustrating too.

>>159104948
The fixed amounts of doubloons are all better value, on EU at least.

>>159104809

Soviet and Japanese grinds aren't even that bad, neither is the British one despite what people will tell you.

Just don't do the things that you see cruisers do when you delete them.

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>The two torpedoes that would have killed him hit the terrain he was moving over

this game is a fucking joke

>>159104713
>tfw you don't get to compete to be the best /wowsg/ at your favorite botes because you're a dirty reroll

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>>159105018
desu i stopped at cleveland, but i've got an atlanta and it's quite fun to shit all over the rare skycancer who's stupid enough to fly near me

gimme a point by point senpai, how do you get the most out of your non sealclubbing cruisers? i've been keeping my atlanta close to straggler battleships and trying to hug terrain/islands to sneeki breeki.

>>159105136
>le deeprunning torpedo
IS HISTORICAL AND ACCURATES
"Torpedo is fine, no problems with exploders or erratic runs, also captain error" t. us bureau of ordinance

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>>159104713
>top for QTest
I hate you so much.
One day I'll claim this title myself!

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>>159104897
>>159104924
One can only wonder...

>>159105285
>not pictured: 500 lb bombs

>>159105136
WAIT I didn't even see the THIRD torpedo to the right that PASSED the ship close to the fucking terrain

WHAT THE FUCK DID THOSE TWO TORPEDOES HIT

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>>159105339
Truly, a mystery for the ages.

>>159105529
>THIRD

RIP [THIRD]

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>>159105285
>gimme a point by point senpai, how do you get the most out of your non sealclubbing cruisers?

>DM

>find a rock near a cap
>hug it far enough back that DD's can't rush you with torps
>ideally close enough to radar the whole cap
>bow on so that you present a small target to BBs
>make sure you can't get shot from across the map
>slow push the cap
>execute DDs with radar
>get triple fire rolling on any BB that you can get a shot on
>load AP for any retarded nigger that shows broadside and roll in citadels

>Moskva

>harass with HE at max range
>if you're going to force a fight, stay bow on
>use your mobility to push radar and hydro into DDs and contest cap zones
>HE for angled ships
>AP for broadside

No experience with the Zao or Hipper, but Moskva and DM are similar in the sense that they both really emphasize bow-on play. DM has much higher damage output, Moskva has railguns. In both cases, if people push into you, you need to reverse out and play for RNG. Be hyper aware of being broadside to people- neither ship needs the rear turret to get great damage numbers.

>Over Pen more than I Pen in Bismarck
What am I doing wrong?

>>159106018

aim at waterline

>>159105709
;_;7

>>159105285
Mostly about abusing the spotting mechanics, your ability to present a small profile, and decent maneuverability. Atlanta is kind of a weird one because of her lack of range, both actual and effective range.
You can usually pick your battles decently well so long as you're not charging forward and getting spotted first, you can hopefully use your other teammates as fodder. Pubbies will usually shoot at the first target that pops up, so don't be that obviously, but also at the target that's going to give them the most citpens, so always keeping your ship angled and moving(the armor might not always bounce stuff but it makes you a lot harder to hit, hopefully harder to hit than someone else around you), and making sure to be watching out for the most dangerous targets and keeping track of when they're firing. If you're keeping decent range you do have time to try to evade a surprising amount of fire (which is also why I've never been big on the US cruisers, I'm too crap at hitting with their shells at range and their range feels kind of limiting to me in general). The thing about cruisers is that you'll generally have the tools to deal with most situations, it's just about knowing how to make the best use of what you have, against DDs and other cruisers your armor can be really useful, against BBs you can dodge a lot of their fire, you can use your stealth to pop up in positions that are the best for you, sometimes you just have to run away and try not to get hit/spotted. Survival seems to be the thing most people have trouble with when it comes to cruisers, and if you get that down they can be a pretty fun class.

>>159105336
Not if I get it first. :^)

Someone on the forums doesn't understand why our Heroic Battle Adviser has his own mission. Which Under Siege ship should I reply with to show him the light?

>>159106209
Well, we don't have the Missouri, so Iowa would be next on the list.

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>>159105984
>>159106104
Thanks senpai

Is it good?

https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/3978/

>>159106351
>ship
I meant 'clip'

>>159106475
For lazy people its the König Albert

is it basically a Imp but a bit shitter?

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>It had to be base xp
I hate this.

>>159106505
You can try the knife fight scene.

>>159106475
>https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/3978/
save the shekels and just get a nassau senpai, they're real comfy

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>>159106360
Just remember, deletions happen sometimes, but you can do an awful lot to avoid them becoming a regular occurrence which is what it's all about. I've never found them to be as common as the thread seems to make them out to be.
Also a disclaimer, I've mostly played the Japs and Krauts with a little bit of the Russians, so that's what I'm going off, stuff like the Brits and a few individual ships could be a bit different.

>>159106981
its a Nassau but tier 3 you retard

>>159106981
fair enough

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>Looking at New Orleans stats on warships.today
>Set time frame to past 2 weeks
>Min battles 100
>There's one player
>Managed 115 battles
>Average 9,999 dmg

I wish more people reported actual fucking bots.

>>159107258
Did you mean Kaiser? Nassau's tier 3, Satsuma style turret layout with the double wing turrets. Kaiser's tier 4 with the cross-firing meme turrets which are kinda shit just like historical

>>159106057
Yeah, that doesn't help. I'm beginning to fucking hate this shit. Every shot just over pens when it should pen or even get citadel. Getting tilted as fuck and want to throw my computer through a wall.

>>159107490

>Yeah, that doesn't help.

Either you aren't doing it, or you're shooting AP at DDs. Overpenetrations are almost always shells that go through superstructure or the front or rear of the ship- you are aiming too high, or leading too much or too little.

Shoot LITERALLY at the waterline so your shells land beneath the funnel. At close range you can even shoot below the waterline.

>>159107490
Do it. See if you overpen that too.

Speaking of overpenetration, what's that metal-squealing noise I sometimes hear when I hit? And what's the *whing* noise I sometimes hear when I get hit?

>>159104607
but not the Hindenburg?

>>159108065
Ricochets or spalling I'd guess.

>>159107490
look at armor models and learn the citadel locations for ships you will be facing.

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>>159107962
savage

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>>159107962

>>159108079
Not him but it seems like the Hind isn't outright bad, but it does kind of lack anything particularly amazing that makes it stand out from the other T10s.
It's not as tanky as the Moskva, or even the DM, it doesn't have the same kind of short range damage that the DM does, it doesn't have the amazing HE or stealth of the Zao, it's decent with AP but so is the Moskva and even then that's only situational, it doesn't get radar, it doesn't have vastly better AA or anything.
Also the Roon is actually a pretty good ship so it's not even like an amazing upgrade. Maybe another anon can correct me because I only have limited experience with it, but it just seems like there's not much reason to pick it over something else.

>>159108460
>It's not as tanky as the Moskva, or even the DM
What a load of bullshit. DM doesnt have a shred of "tankiness" to it. Hinden does.

I can't do shit in the free ARP cruisers. I do better in the bloody Pensacola. Should I just take it as a sign that the INJ CA line isn't for me?

>>159108678
Yes

>>159108564
Except when it's bow-on, and is then far tougher than the Hind.

>>159108798
"no"

>>159108678
Probably

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>when you free XP the entire Bong CL tech line because the Queen wills it and you're not a poorfag peasant

How do I play Bong CLs lads

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>>159109073
>>159109137

>>159109137
Smokeshit. Just smokeshit, all day.

>>159108821
Baltimore and DM have 27mm bow armor which is autobounce for the 38cm guns of Bismarck, Tirpitz and Gneisnau

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>>159109891
>ship spinning in port waiting for a battle finish because I changed my mind and I did want to play my Farragut again
>You were complimented 3 times

I didn't even really do anything. Not sure how 3 people thought I did great.
>Team decides to blob up in the east then head south
>I spawned on the west so I figured I'd scout
>spotted by aircraft early and under invisifire so I retreat/chase a CV snipe and use DF
>sail towards the center, bother a Warspite & Yorck from smoke
>DF again with planes above my smoke
>sail along an island to meet the Yorck and Warspite on the other side
>sink Yorck, torps out against the Warspite, 3 hits, die to the Warspite as I'm dodging Leander torps trying to force him out of smoke

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>you will never marry a qt fleet-type submarine and start a family

why even live senpai?

>>159104098
>Tiger when.
Don't have enough Kongo clones from the ARP events?

>Be top tier RN CL
>Shoot at bottom tier BB
>Literally cannot damage him unless he is completely broadside to me
man, bb sure have a hard life

>>159111741
>RN CL
>you get to spam guns
>but 6" AP only
yeah you're literally helpless against a BB unless you can shotgun. just fuck up other cruisers and zip zop zoobitybop away from anything bige

>>159110223
Fuck you, a Bismarck hit my cit when I had my bow pointed at it

Has the thread been scuttled or sunk?

>>159113943
Lisping to port.

>>159114138
just like the game desu

>>159111290
That artist and his dumb self insert clogging those sites makes me runreasonably annoyed

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>>159114625
You're just jealous because you also want to self-insert into domestic bliss with your waifu.

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>tfw no Great White Fleet camo for lowtier us botes

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How much free XP should I have? I kind of want to skip some stock grinds but I also kind of want to be jewy with how I spend free XP

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IJN BB line doesn't get much better than Nagato.

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>>159115371
might as well ask "how many shekels should I have?" desu

just remember, free xp isn't money, it won't do you any good sitting around. save it up to skip some awful grind, then use it.

>>159115473
Premium taste

>>159115238

>tfw no great white fleet camo for high tier botes

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The Black Swan-class is basically a slightly overgrown corvette. 20 knots, 6x high-angle 4" guns, not even 1400 tons. Barely ocean-going. The WG model has visible depth charge projectors on the aft deck, just behind the turret.

Most anti-submarine warships of the time could only do one anti-sub related task at a time, be it passively listening, banging away with sonar, or going in for a depth charge attack. In order to maintain a sonar contact, the target needed to be in a down-front cone from the ship. However, a depth charge attack necessitated passing directly over the target because you'd roll the 'ashcans' off the back of the boat.

Even then, if the target was deep, quick, and a little alert he could 'juke' your depth charges by changing position within the 30-odd second it'd take them to sink to his level. The solution to that particular problem was the 'Y-Gun' and 'K-Gun' depth charge projectors, which were essentially a powder charge directed into a cradle that held the depth charge. Bang goes the powder, charge goes away off the side to broaden your kill pattern into a cross or column, rather than a simple line.

There was still the problem of needing to keep a fix on the target (and thus maintain sonar contact). Almost all navies wound up using a system where a pair of ships would hunt a sub, one tracking, one attacking. The britbongs took this a step further with forward-launching(!) depth charge projectors and 'hedgehog' mortars, which allowed the attacking ship to launch an attack without breaking sonar contact.

The Black Swan-class, totalling 37 ships, is credited with some 31-odd U-Boat kills.

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If you've ever had the misfortune to play a Mikasa, you might've noticed that the bow is the most accurate thing on the ship. WoWS doesn't even attempt to model it, but predreadnoughts like Mikasa pre-date central rangefinding, central firing, gun directors, and generally all the modern fire control that made ships like the Dreadnought viable. Pre-dreadnought ironclad combat was very much reminiscent of Nelsonian age of sail combat. That is, you'd steam right in to point-blank range and beat the shit out of each other with as many guns as you could pack on a hull.

Now, if you're at point-blank range then you already know that the biggest danger is probably torpedoes, followed by ramming. In fact, the quickest way to sink an ironclad was to ram it with another one.

This is why you see the forward-sloping ramming prows on pre-dreadnought era ships - just like in WoWS, the bow actually *was* the most accurate weapon on the ship.

>http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/101820-ayanami-sighting/

lel, looks like a bunch of people fucked up

>those replies
>mass censorship

>>159116438
>forward-sloping ramming prows on pre-dreadnought era ships
They should implement a feature in the game where if you drive a ship with one of those ramming prows, the ship takes less damage when ramming.

>cannot implement, too confus for player ((((((((((((

>>159117264
There's a flag for that.

>>159116697
What did the first couple of posts say

>>159117757
since it's the NA server forums, I'm guessing the first few posts were

>awww yeah motherfucker
>I'd like a quarter pounder with cheese
>ridin' on a bald eagle, bitch
>praise jesus

>>159117807
Do you have autism rapespammer

>>159118120
what? who is rapespammer?

>>159112169
Stop being a huge slut

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who's the biggest virgin in wowsg?

>>159118810
Sniping_Cuck

>>159118810
Is that mako-chan

>Captcha Brisbane school

>>159118810
probably the fucking losers who post kancolle (ntr people, nakima, halykun to name a few)

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>>159118897

>tfw forever dark blue
How do I stop being a shitter?

>>159119201
play more crusiers

>>159119307
60% solo cruisers. I don't think my mind can handle more.

ah seagal is a friend of putin that's why the liberals on reddit can't stand him.

>Pink Colorado sitting back firing at team mates
>Remove him
>Become pink
I thought I could kill team killers and not be punished. Oh well, first time pink for me.

announcement: after getting the kiev and no itend to get the tashkent which is shit according to the wows global wiki i will start to grind the us destroyers.

what do you do as a bong cruiser in a cyclone

other than yolo torp and die

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Oh boy. First SK

>>159119949
Burger dd summary:
T2 freeexp
T3 meh
T4 good
T5 meh
T6 good
T7 meh
T8 Great
T9 GOAT
T10 X/10 its ok

>>159120239
250 India x-ray. :| At least it is not ramming flags.

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Should I spec Bismarck into secondaries?

>>159120902
is there a person who doesn't?

what else is bisko good for if not her 10.6km no fun zone

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>>159120902
It doesn't make any sense to spec her into anything else.

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>>159120902
>kraut battlebarge
>not secondaries

Bayern seems kinda underwhelming compared to Konig, and especially Scharnhorst. Am I doing it wrong, or is it kinda meh?

I also don't seem to be getting a whole lot out of my secondaries on kraut BBs. Even specced into them, they don't seem to do a whole lot aside from spray shells everywhere.

Will the Belfast sweep the game like Tirpitz and Scharn did?

should I play in T3 and laugh at every König Albert while sitting in my Kawachi ?

>>159121401
they're kinda whatever until you get to Bisko, and only if you have manual secondaries

without that skill they're just a pretty light show, and you'll have to make due with german dispersion guns

>>159120268
thanks anon. i can use the halloween camo on the meh ones and enjoy the good ones.

>>159120268
Is this bait

>>159122080
cruisers are trash so nah.

I have over 1m convertable experience. I've never skipped through a line but was considering skipping though a carrier line. Does that sound like a good idea?

>>159125618
>Does that sound like a good idea?

No. You won't have any experience with the line and you'll just be a detriment to the team. Because of how a good carrier can sway a game, you'll be even more of a detriment than if you were in something else.

You also won't have any of the captain skills you need either.

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Post humorous captain names.

>>159125618
No
It's even worse for CVs because they play differntly and are so important to the game

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>>159126087
>berg

>>159125836
I've ground to the independence naturally so it's not like I havnt touched cvs

>>159115238
Albany and St Louis' A-hull have it.

>>159115371
I try to keep about 100 kfXP on hand, because I plan to immediately skip to the C-hull of Izumo when I buy her. Just take a look at the lines you are grinding and see if there are any must-have modules in the next tier or two and keep enough free XP to research them.

>>159115473
>Very next ship
>More guns
>Reload faster
>Turn quicker
>non-overmatch ends
You're wrong.

>>159119949
>Putting any faith in the wiki
You get what you deserve, I suppose.

>>159119970
Group up with everything else, stay behind the BBs, smoke up when you're about to come into visual range

>>159122080
Belfast is nowhere near as popular as Scharnhorst was.

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Good morning /wowsg/~

May you have a nice day!

>>159128370
Post best girl Fubuki.

so how much free xp will it take to get akuduki? will hatsu and buki already be ground out if I already have a shima?

>>159128370
Youre nice

>>159105008
8k base exp yesterday on 9 painstakingly poorly made ranked games

fuck ranked.

>>159128370
Go fuck yourself you goddamn degenerate weeb

Should I buy the Atlanta fellow goyim

>>159129726
Those guns look fun

>>159129726
Just buy and atago

>>159120321
I just got 500 bronze pirate dollaridoos ,^)

>>159129726
No. It's a bad ship. She can get good games from time to time, but she's way too situational. Belfast is better even.

Just buy an Atago.

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Mediocre, player here

When playing bb, when should you use repair and dcp?

I often find cruisers and other bb spamming he and once one fire is out, another starts

So if I finish grinding through Hatsu and buy Fubuki before the split, and if I don't sell Hatsu at the same time (meaning I'd have both Hatsu and Bucky in my port at the same time), will WG most likely do all of the following:
>keep my now tier-6 Bucky
>keep my now tier-6 Hatsu
>replace my tier-7 ship in the main line, i.e. give me Akatsuki
>replace my tier-8 ship in the main line, i.e. give me Kagero
?

Do you think it's realistically possible to get 2 free ships out of this?

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>>159129225
>Hatsu
Doubtful, though perhaps there's a slim chance if you have current Hatsu in port

>Fubuki
Yes.

So at a minimum, you would need enough free XP to skip a T7.

>>159129475
Who else 'comfy Ranked' here?

>>159130147
Repair: When you get 3 fires going, or flooding.
Healpot: When you see your "this is what is getting healed back" gray bar is fairly big. If you're getting set on fire often, pretty much you use it as often as it becomes available.

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Not going for luck crates any more, posting this in case anybody else keeps a log and wants more data.

>>159130310
In tanks you'd keep your old ships, and get the new ones. No idea how they handle things in warplanes, maybe you can find some details. If both other WG products handle the situation the same way, I'd guess it would be pretty safe to assume ships will too.

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>Arpeggio of Blue Steel peaking with ARP Takao
>gotta get 110k base exp
>or if you are EUKEK, 50 wins on tier 9
>no clan features on PTS
>why is even a PTS up
>scharnhost ended yesterday, hope you werent planning on buying it today!
>its day of the dead and the halloween event is still on, what sorcery is this
>ranked ends in 11 days or so
>no word on the next collab
>could be H A I F U R I since theres a flag running around
>could be zipangu
>or maybe KanColle
>or WarShip Girls, the cancercolle homage from china
what are you gonna do when WG announces the next collab and it wont involve your shipfu?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p225bmob7c

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>look at forum signatures of autism commandos that have more posts than games played
>they put what ships they have and 75% of them are premium

>>159130147
>repair in BB
>modules
>1 fire
Never repair, unless you know for sure you won't encounter any enemy during the cooldown period
>2 fires
Never repair if you're in close proximity to a DD
>3 fires
>4 fires
Repair immediately, unless you know you're going to be struck by a torpedo anytime soon
>flooding
Repair immediately

>>159129726
all these people are telling you to buy paytago

and paytago is definitely a much better ship in terms of winning games and being a credit to team and just... being absurdly strong. it's so much better than its peers that it feels like cheating.

atlanta is not good, but atlanta is weird and that's really fucking fun. if you like playing weird characters in other games or nonstandard decks in card games atlanta is basically that kind of "i know this isn't good but damn if it isn't fun" feeling

>>159131108
>people tell him to buy atago
>he can have takao for free
kek, those filthy goyim are doing gods work

>>159129852
>>159130037
Already have the panpakapan

>>159099999

>>159130591
They did the Myokou and Mogamin switch back in the CBT. I forget how that went.

>>159132159
I think that happened at the same time as a wipe.

>>159132159
At the time, I had the Mogami with the Myoko fully researched. Right after the patch, I had the Myoko with the Mogami fully researched. I never actually had to play the Myoko.

>>159132705
I think it happened shortly before the beta ended.

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>pumped out 10k base xp for Takao mission without trying

>yet another "all 5 of your destroyers suicide 3 minutes in while their smoke up and harass" game

e x c i t i n g g a m e p l a y

>>159130310
WG has handled this in different ways in the past.

You always keep your position in the tree, i. e. they will never take away your t8 ship and hand you a t6 instead.
On certain occasions, they moved a tank up a tier and inserted something new.
Sometimes you got to keep the thing that got moved up at its new tier while also getting the new thing that was inserted unlocked in the tech tree, but not placed into your garage with a free slot.
But sometimes they also inserted something and did not unlock it automatically.

My german tech tree in WoT looks more like a swiss cheese becuase they kept addign and inserting shit all over the place, and I never bothered to research all the new low tier shit they added.

What happened only a few times in WoT was that they'd also give you something that was now in a new branch, side branch or at a higher tier.
The Soviet heavy split was one such occasion I remember, and I think something similar happened with the US t9 heavy that actually got turned into a premium.

IIRC the Brtit t10 med wasn't just given to everyone whein they turned that into a t8 prem, but it gave everyone who had the tank some sort of mission to get the t8 prem.

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>>159133867
>It's another episode of DD smoking and parking in front of Des Moines

>>159134049
>IIRC the Brtit t10 med wasn't just given to everyone whein they turned that into a t8 prem
It was, with a bit of a delay. You could even get around the one battle requirement if you contacted support.

>how Do I Get the FV4202 (P)?
>You have three ways to pick it up:
>You previously fought at least one battle in the tier X FV 4202. We will gift you the tank and a Garage slot, FREE!
>You complete the special FV4202 (P) mission
>You buy it when it becomes available later in the Premium Shop and tech tree.
>http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/pc-browser/22/missions-earn-fv4202p/

>>159119949

>tashkent
>shit

comrade, you have been decieved. Get her AFT + DE , propulsion and SGM3, fire % and speed signals - liberate people at 48kts and harvest reacrionary tears

>>159128370
You have a nice day too hotelposter.

>>159120902

After finally getting MFCSA and playing maybe a dozen games in Bisko, I believe I bought into a meme. Secondaries are fun and farming CQE medals on low health ships is neat , but in the end I think Noca and Amagi are better ships by virtue of main armament

>>159134648
NorCal is pretty much a downtiered Iowa, with all its strengths and weaknesses. Now that they've fixed the aft turret angles it's probably one of the best BB tier for tier. Never played the Amagi, but I should be able to afford her in a month or so (fucking jew in game economy)

>>159134878
>with all its strengths and weaknesses
Not all.
NC citadel is much lower in water.

>>159134878

Amagi was the third of the three I got, 13pt captain and don't even have the range upgrade (18.1 range w/o spotter) and she's already my favorite.

Ran into wave a bunch of times in ranked in Amagi and wondered why..not anymore. 10x410mm of thousand times folded japanese FUCK YOU accuracy, can fire all guns while heavily angled, speed and acceleration of a battlecruiser

She hard counters bismeme imo

>>159134878
NC is smaller, has a waterline citadel, better turning circle, better rudder shift, better concealment, better Vertical dispersion sigma, has t8 matchmaking, has better guns for dealing with Derpitz and Bismarck and doesn't have a shipgirl.
All this for being slightly slower and having what, 50 less medium range AA DPS?
Iowa is actually a downgrade, don't try to upsell that trash

Camo with bow number when?
>inb4 premium stickers

>>159135289
Amagi was my first T8 BB out of all of them, and she's always been my favorite. I've really never understood the hate, that fucking broadside is amazing, she has nice mobility, and it's not like she has terrible survivability or anything either.

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>>159135447
>doesn't have a shipgirl

are you sure? :^)

>>159135759
Amagi is fucking brilliant, my all time highest damage game was in her. She's also cute AF.

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>>159126087
He was my public test captain for 0.5.12.

>>159136208
RARE

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>>159126087
>white german

how is bayern supposed to stand against a tier 8 BB?

it feels like it can be easily shut down with no real advantages to using it.

>>159137205
You aim high for side and superstructure and get a ton of regular pens doing 8k-29k a salvo and get close and attack them with secondaries

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>>159137205
You ask them to sail into you and then shoot them in the upper belt for 20k hp

I need the pictures of german commanders from this game. Anyone??

>>159137337
>>159137415
most t8 BBs will do too much damage to me as i approach

i cant even shoot as i approach, and the secondaries on anything that isnt DD is a joke.

>Start the game
>Your team sail to opposite cap their spawn on

>>159137519
Point bow foward to minimize damage

>>159137574
>start game
>get citpenned

Such is the cruiser life

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>>159137519
worked for me desu

just shoot him

who is the sluttiest of wowsg?

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>>159137706
>Start game
>Sit in smoke
>Explode

Such is Brit CL life

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>>159137574
>start the game
>a wild wavecuck appears
>leave match

it's pretty nice they don't punish you for leaving games before dying desu

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>its one of those days when enemy Zao manages to torp Iowa at open sea and sail away while Iowa slowly bleeds out

How do I fight German battleships in Kongo?

>>159137949
>Brit CL
>Sit in smoke
>Enemy can guess your position because your puff is so small

>>159138926
Try shooting them. Low tier Kraut BBs are nothing special except for Nassau.

How do I git gud in USSR DD? I have the worst WR of all lines with them. I feel like I won't be able to finish even T6, it brings nothing but frustration

>>159139115
I seem to take way too much damage against Kaisers and Konigs while doing very little in return. Even when I'm angled they easily do 4-8k damage to me, while an angled nazi ship usually only takes 2-4k damage from me.

Should I switch to HE when they're not showing their sides?

>>159138926
You use your greatly superior speed to stay at 14+ km, and shit great nihon AP sherrs forded 9001 times all over them.

>>159139275
No. German ships at that tier are good at dealing normal AP hits while never actually gettign citpenned in return.

Stay at longer ranges, the closer you get the better their protection works, while your BC-tier armor will do a better job at longer ranges.

>>159139275
>an angled nazi ship usually only takes 2-4k damage from me
Stop shooting at angled ships, then. Kongo vs KM BBs is a bad 1v1 matchup. Play like a cruiser if you must and kite them around while the rest of your team does their job. If you find yourself having to kill a KM BB at the end of the game in order to win, then good luck. Your best chance is to close the distance fast bow-on, pray to RNG, and use your superior speed and maneuverability to get around him, beat his guns, and do the circlestrafe thing against his upper belt.

>>159139698
Kongo accuracy isn't great, though. You can kite them, but that's not actually gonna effectively kill them.

>>159139121
Don't try to brawl other DD's. Play them more as you would a light cruiser than a destroyer.

>>159139986
>Play them as a light cruiser
>Don't brawl DDs

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November 4-7: Carrier Harder
It won't be harder to haul in great rewards when you take your carriers to sea in exclusive missions!
STARTS November 4 at 04:20 PT / 07:20 ET
ENDS November 7 at 04:20 PT / 07:20 ET

Are you ready for a weekend of cancer, /wowsg/?

>>159139986
And how am I going to contest cap points than?

>>159140297
what cartoon is that?

>>159140447
what he means is brawl DDs and forget torps unless you are humping islands

if you think anything but a DD is targeting you bail, because your slow mobility can get you OHKO

>>159140653
haifuri i belive

tho its missing a red stripe so it could be zipangu?

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>>159140653
Looks like one of the strike witches.

This one is from Haifuri

>>159140659
>play e-z-slav
>behind island
>full health kongo sails along
>dump torps
>9 hits!
>kongo doesn't give a fuck
I didn't expect the to be that bad.

>>159137205
>how is bayern supposed to stand against a tier 8 BB?
It's not supposed to. It's two tiers lower.

>>159138926
>>159139275
Shoot them above their main belt, unless they are turning towards you, exposing their underbelly, in which case you shoot under their belt. Use your superior to speed to maintain a positional advantage and avoid committing to anything but an unfair fight in your favour.

Angling is more effective for you than it is for him, as your bigger guns will still penetrate at a significant angle.


>>159139121
Don't try to contest the caps directly at the start. Let your other DDs do that and support them from behind with your guns. After that, pepper big ships from range with AP and HE as appropriate and exploit any undefended caps.

>>159139981
You don't need to kill him at range, just chip away until a close range engagement is favourable.

>>159140447
You don't.

>>159139981
>Kongo accuracy isn't great, though. You can kite them, but that's not actually gonna effectively kill them.
It's good enough.

The simple truth is that you can either play to your strengths and use the mid to long range, or die like an idiot against a König that is built to brawl.
Also, a NY will simply citpen you to death at under 10 km.

>>159140104
Light cruisers can't go into caps for most of the beginning of a match, because they'll get outspotted and focused by the entire enemy team. They also rely on the DD getting spotted by an allied DD, or the DD being stupid enough to get himself revealed while in range of a CL.
Same reasoning applies to russian DDs all the way up to T10. Unlike a US/IJN DD, you can't get the drop on an enemy DD because you're going to be spotted much earlier. You're generally bigger than the other nations DDs, so you want to overall stay at max range to maximize your chances at evading incoming fire-

>>159140447
You don't. You may be able to win a 1v1 brawl against a USN/IJN DD, specially from T7 onwards, but that'd mean the enemy DDs are stupid enough to engage you. And these days, they often aren't. You're going to get spotted much earlier than they do, and they're going to keep you permaspotted while his allies focus you down. Your ship is way bigger than the usual DD, so the enemy is going to have an even easier time shooting at you.

>>159140941
>It's not supposed to. It's two tiers lower.
tell that to MM

>>159141858
>I have to be able to kill any enemy on the map
Are you a baBBy?

>>159142127
obviously, why else would i be playing the bayern.

any BB can delete any CA from the game, i dont even expect cruisers to score anymore. but for BBs to be the ONLY hard counter to BB itself is kinda terrible, considering the tremendous disparity of power between tiers and playstyle.

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>Atlanta is bad

>It's a team says "BC" when they actually mean "everybody to C but don't tell anon" while you get left behind in your BB to flee from literally half the enemy fleet episode

After 5 loses in a row, in 4 of which I was useless PoS, I realized that I just don't understand RU DD. I am not going to even bother getting Kiev.

>>159142431
Only shitters get deleted in CA by BB.

>>159142581
P.S. I am switching my focus to Baltimore, at least he isn't betraying my expectations.

>>159141858
How to bayern in a t8 game:
1) get CE and AFT
2) get close to enemies by being a stealth BB
3) ???
4) shoot them with your guns and secondaries
5) die anyway because they're t8 and you're not)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>159142729
>CAs can fight BBs
Now that's some delusional bullshit.

>>159142515
>That censor
l-lewd

>>159142748
You hate yourself, don't you?

Why Belfast doesn't have heal?
>>159142835
He didn't mentioned fighting, only getting deleted.

>>159142835
t. shit at CAs

>>159142905
? Looks like it. If I didn't, I wouldn't start USSR DD line at all.

>>159142920
Being deleted and being clicked aren't the same thing.

>>159142936
>baBBies on the other team are always absolute potatoes who allow me to invisispam HE
Nice delusions.

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>>159142936
>need to use slow firing arcs to not be targeted by BBs
>relies on fucking retarded and unrealistic fire mechanics to deal damage
>after all its done and trhu you only dealt half the damage listed because he can just heal it
>if you make a half mistake a citpen can take 3/4th of your HP away with no means to recover it
>the best cruisers are P2W and use DD or BB mechanics to do their magic
im a blue for CAsuals and i can say you are desilusional if you think CAs can fight the class designed to be their hard counter

>>159142835
>fires can give you an endless stream of damage with literally not even the effort to aim and the luck to hit.
>you can just dodge BB shells.
>you can invisifire.
>most of the times BB's shells will overpen you dealing very little damage.

The only way to get deleted in a CA is to sail in a straight line, showing most of your broadside, at a constant speed for an extended period of time.

>>159143430
You sure as hell can fight them. Unless you're some kind of idiot that's trying to use a cruiser like a weaker BB.

>>159143545
WG doesnt like invisifire and plans on removing it soon, along with smoke hiding ships that are firing

you wont dodge shit on the ranges that you need to hit them

relying on the enemy being dumb is bad and any baBBy can lead your wiggling like how you can lead against DDs wiggling.

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>>159142525
If you do middle+side cap then baBBy (and some CA) will absolutely sail to side cap and clumps up there
Side+side cap is the best strat desu

>>159143697
>you wont dodge shit on the ranges that you need to hit them
Are you playing US CAs or something?
Because I've never had issues with hitting things at longer ranges with the Jap, Russian or German shells, the sort of ranges that make it pretty easy to dodge most of their return fire.

>>159142525
>next episode is an allied Minotaur and G.Kurfust division goes down middle on two brothers episode
Can I drop this series already?

>>159143697

Why dont you just buff carrier economy for going after BBs and nerf BB AA while giving loads of exp for cruisers shooting down planes?

>>159142920
>Why Belfast doesn't have heal?
Because you have HE, T8 upgrade slot, smoke, hydro and radar at T7. Do you seriously thing this OP as fuck CL need heal too?

>>159143773
>If you do middle+side cap then baBBy (and some CA) will absolutely sail to side cap and clumps up there
Or the BBs will go into A and get their asses torped, but yeah, I agree.
>Side+side cap is the best strat desu
Agreed, but when the team won't listen, there's nothing you can do.

>>159144032
Well, WG thought that it was a good idea to add all that to a ship, so I ask. Why not give it heal?

>>159143998
frankly at this point only WG woudlnt like that idea.

even baBBies would like to get mroe exp for taking out aircraft

>>159143998
Because CVs still have all kinds of issues that make them completely fucked up and trying to use them to balance other classes has historically gone poorly.

>>159143694
I am. How do I play cruisers?

t. noob baBBy

>>159144142
Probably for the same reason they didn't give it 100k HP and a 1km detection range.

>>159143430
But as a matter of fact, you CAN fight them. It's just not the most effective use of their firepower, which is something shitters can't understand.

Shitters don't understand that their main priority should not be to 1v1 BBs, but to hunt down DDs, take down planes and remove enemy cruisers. What they don't have in armor they compensate in maneuverability and speed that allows them to flex around the map in response to changing situations. Lazily firing HE at a BB should be done only if there's nothing else left to do.

t. purple with equal number of BB and CA games.

>>159142525

Watch your team as closely as you watch the bad guys

>>159144105
One of my recent plays:
>all BBs went to C
>almost all enemy BBs went to C
>everything_went_better_than_expected.jpg

>>159144474
>CAs hunting DDs

Ha
Hahahaha
Ha

>>159144252
See >>159106104 and >>159105984
It's about being opportunistic and trying to pick the most unfair fights possible, which cruisers have a lot of tools to do. If you can get survival down they become a pretty fun class because you have pretty decent offensive capabilities, the trick is to not prioritize that over your own survival because you don't have the durability of a BB or stealth/maneuverability of a DD, but you do have a bit of both if you know how to make the best use of it.

>>159142515

You blocked your name because we could look up your Atlanta stats

>>159144474
>hunt down DDs, take down planes and remove enemy cruisers
Cruisers can't actually do the first unless tehy're up agasint shitters in DDs and are less effective at the other two than BBs.

>What they don't have in armor they compensate in maneuverability and speed that allows them to flex around the map in response to changing situations
That 4 - 8 knot speed advantage over BBs certainly allows them to get around faster, yeah.

>>159144515
>your BBs fall back
>A is lost
>your team get enveloped

>>159144648
>anonymous image board
>not blocking your name

??????

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>>159144872
>/vg/
>already a tripfag fest
>not gloating about being good and becoming a celebrity with no less that 3 different stalkers

>>159144872
>Caring so much you have to block it.

Im so sorry for you.

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>>159144648
>block name
>faggots demand you to post stats
>post name
>constant whining about blogposting/namefagging

>>159141858
MM says there's a T8 BB on your team that should be standing against the enemy's.

>>159144706
>Cruisers can't actually do the first unless tehy're up agasint shitters in DDs a
Keep believing that and you always will get your ass kicked. Cruisers ARE good against DDs, DDs are priority target for a lot of people, to fuck with them all you need is to spot them and there will be no shortage of volunteers to shot at it. Unless you are a retard you can dodge their torps and don't give DDs broadside.

>>159144474

>12v12
>5-6 BBs per side
>2-3 Cruisers
>Rest DDs
>Basic map awareness lets DDs completely outspot and avoid you while you spend the match playing 'hug the island and dont blow out my citpussy from 18km'

'DD hunting' in a BB heavy meta is a fuck retarded meme.

>>159145124
that wont happen if he is a sniping cunt but i suppose blaming my team is all that there is left on this

>>159145260
You're the only constant

>>159145043
>caring enough about it to complain

>>159145079
Wrong

>>159145079

Tbf

This general is a toxic tripfagfest. Only reason I'm even here is the reddit is dead

>>159145331
Is there anyone that's know by name that hasn't had people shitposting about them at some point?

>>159145323
>caring enough to give him a (you)

>tfw state didn't have a BB named after it

>>159145434
>This general is a toxic tripfagfest
>we don't have a single tripfag
Really makes you think.

>>159120902
>Should I spec Bismarck into secondaries?
That's the whole point of having Bisko.

>want to join WoWS in game channel to play with others
>anxiety increases
>think I'll play like shit anyway
>continue playing solo out of fear of reprisal
Such is the life of a shut-in.

>>159144579
>>159144706
Use your concealment and cover to surprise DDs at cap points. If they run away, then you get free cap XP anyway.
Follow allied DD's, preferably USN, as they go looking for enemy DDs. A cruiser+DD combo makes short work of enemy DDs.
And it only gets easier as you advance through tiers. Radar makes DD hunting hilariously easy.

>>159145490
Alaska?

>>159145598
If you want pity points, you're not getting it.

>>159145598

Go join any other group of real human beans and youll be fine

Avoid vg at all costs

>>159145490
Hawaii?

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>>159115072
Hood when?

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>Lol i potatoed!!!

>>159145456
Me

>>159145260
That's beside the issue of MM. There's an equal chance that the enemy's T8 BB will behave that way.

>>159110223
>Look guys this T10 cruiser can autobounce tiny 38cm guns!
Wow fucking wee

Meanwhile Colorado, Nagato, North Carolina, Amagi, Iowa, Izumo, Freddy, Montana, Hotel, and Great Kerfuffle all don't give a shit.

>>159145598
I was the same as you but eventually I decided to join the channel and start trying to play with people and I'm the very definition of a completely average player. Despite the occasional autism /wowsg/ is pretty nice, and everyone I've div'd with so far have been good people to play with.

>>159120902
>Should I spec Bismarck into secondaries?
There are people who DON'T spec Bismarck into secondaries?

>>159146379

I regret wasting a 5th skill in MFCSA.

Should have taken MFCAA and another lower tier skill

>>159146278
>tiny 38cm guns
I think it's awful how WoWS (and even WoT) puts everything out of scale: a 38cm gun is simply massive, and yet this game makes them feel like pop guns

Does clicking on planes when AAing gives you bonus damage? (without manual AA skill)

>>159147006
yes

>>159145674
>>159145954
Montana also never had BB named after it.

>>159146905

Bismarck was undergunned for her tonnage by a long shot.

Basically had the armament and protection of the Bayerns two generations older.

I think wows refelects this pretty well

>>159147006
30% to all guns. It stacks with MAA, and DF
So if you target planes, have MAA, and use DF, your DPS will increase 1*1.3*3*2=7.8 times

>>159147006
I meant your long range DPS.
guns that are in 25-85mm range have only 1*1.3*3=3.9 times
Everything less have only 1.3 times increase.

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>>159147607
What if I'm shooting plane with 9mm?

Was there a ship from which you expected something great, and in the end it was kinda meh?

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>lost the game, still got more XP than most of the winning team
For anyone who might not know, Sims is a fantastic base XP grinder for you own tsundere heavy cruiser.

>>159147757
1.3 times increase if you designated target.
DF bonus does not apply to anything below 25mm (for some strange coincidence this is minimum caliber of high tier soviet cruiser AA)

>>159147817
Are you NA? Cuz I believe Euros need to play t9 and up to qualify for the Takao.

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>Doria
What were they even trying to go for? Looks edgy.

>>159140297
>finally got around to watching this episode
Oh, my bad. Turns out that this is actually a Yuugumo. It's pretty hard to distinguish between the two.

>>159147775

Mostly the opposite desu
Lots of ships with bad reps I enjoyed

>>159147757
Glocks get an explosive bonus if you throw the pistol.

>>159147950
Yes, glorious NA. Already halfway thought stage III.

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Duckies when?

>>159147950
>Cuz I believe Euros need to play t9 and up to qualify for the Takao.
1 win a day on T9 brings Takao

someone on EU already has her

>>159148149
Yeah, but you have to play T9+.

>>159147340
except its protection is still pretty damn good in terms of WoWs gameplay

>>159148014
Everybody told me Dunkerque was shit. One of my favorite BBs.

>>159144147
Well cruisers should be able to rack up loads of exp by just being
>escort ships
Anything else is just topping that allows them to pad exp credits.
>>159144169
Yah, but cruisers should be more rewarding and played more. Indirect CV buffs with BB nerfs means cruisers become more important.

>>159147757
you detonate your ship

>>159147775
Kirov.

>>159148126
When you lose your virginity

>>159148126
What's that rifle down there?

>>159149038
It's a pop gun.

>>159149038
It's ducks AA

>>159148079
Tediore.txt

>>159148486
Why? You expected it to be full russian bias and got...?

t. never played USSR CL line

>>159147775
DM.