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/evn/ - English Visual Novels

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This thread is for the discussion of original English visual novels, as well as western visual novel development.

Do you have a question about a Japanese visual novel or a translation of it? /vn/ is ready to answer it. We are not them.

>Recommended reading:
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=olang-en.tagspoil-0;o=d;s=rating
http://pastebin.com/zGVSpH0B

>Resources for getting started as a developer:
http://pastebin.com/7LsCvtq3

>Guides for developers on all subjects:
https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewforum.php?f=42

>Ren'Py (visual novel development software):
http://www.renpy.org/

>Discord
https://discord.gg/T9ygPkz

>Previous thread: >>158481214
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WAKE UP
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313881651/grand-old-academy-a-satirical-dating-sim

I wish "satirical" vns would just die in a fire.
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>>159035085
no one will care after elections
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>>159035924

It's such a bizarre concept, too. I'm not american, so the only ones I recognize are Cruz and Trump and I wouldn't date either, even ironically.
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>>159036189
You need to step up your game on /pol/ memes, this trailer is full of them
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>>159035085
I'm all for vns where you can date older guys but these dudes are way too old. Not that I recognize anyone but Trump either.
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>>159035085
They chose the least moe politicians...
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>>159037175
At least they chose Adryn as the sprite artist, who is at least somewhat capable of drawing older guys.
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>>159037281
Jeb is moe af
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>>159037175
>way too old
Shit taste, men get better with age.
>Not that I recognize anyone but Trump either.
You missed out on the funniest debates.
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>>159039047
>Shit taste, men get better with age.
> implying

guys peak in their 50's.
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>>159039648
said as a total bitchboi
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>>159040468
> old enough to be hot
> not old enough to be out of style and a bore
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Is anyone even making plain old non-"""""humorous""""" non-pure-eroge dating sims these days? Without SJW pandering, wacky fetishes, deep dark psychological themes, """engaging""" mystery storylines and oh so original fantasy/sci-fi "but wait there's a twist" settings?
And if you say "AJTilley", I'll punch you.
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>>159042614
>Without SJW pandering, wacky fetishes, deep dark psychological themes, """engaging""" mystery storylines and oh so original fantasy/sci-fi "but wait there's a twist" settings

so... you want a slice of life dating sim set in a japanese high school?
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>>159043102
No, let japanese high schools stay in JVNs. I want a comfy game that plays on strengths of the medium (i.e. lets me bond with pretend animu 2d friends), isn't pretentious or trying to poke fun at something and doesn't try to do 20 different things at once.
At this point I'd have to wait 3000 years until Wurzel's game is released if I want to play something like this, or make one myself.
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>>159043672
You want Persona without the dungeon crawling? FE: Fates without the battlefield?
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>>159045854
Not him but this. Start a day, interact with one or two out of half a dozen characters throughout the day. Nothing out of the ordinary. You don't have to fuck or bad end with anyone. Bro simulator.
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>>159045854
basically but with more depth to the characters storylines
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>>159042614
Is anyone actually willing to take thirty seconds to look at what people are doing before making sweeping pronouncements about the fate of the industry?
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>>159049835
and what are people doing?
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>>159050240
Not you, apparently.
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>>159049835
>otomeshit
>porn
>porn
>BL (but it mitebcool, I guess)
>porn
>looks idiotic
>dumb gameplay, go be winterwolves somewhere else
>never gonna finish it
>fantasy bullshit by a flake dev
>yuri, more yuri, some more yuri
>oh look a shit """mystery"""
>and another one
>eh, horror
>Tao, pls
can't see shit capm
whoever guesses even 5 of them gets a lolly
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>>159052416
That's why we need evn with cute traps.
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>>159052416
> BL

I can't believe we're getting like six and over half of them look like they'll be shit.
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>>159052416
>Wah! nobody is making the game I want
Remove the cancer out of your body before posting.
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>>159054624
What happened to that monster lover game. I haven't been to these threads in months.
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>>159057684
Scam KS.
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>>159057684

My artist has been busy as fuck (there's only two cgs left to be done, though) and I've been banging my head against the wall with voice acting. I also went to a videogame event in my country, and the guy in charge of the creative industries fund basically said that as long as the game doesn't suck, we'll have an spot in the Tokyo Game Show next year (along with other mexican devs).

The upside to the whole delay is that I got a new, better paid job in the meantime, so the game ended up having a rather larger voice acting budget as a result. Right now I'm crunching numbers to see if I can get my dream cast on board.
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>>159035085
>can't receive the bern's wrinkly dick
What a waste
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>>159058480
>we'll have an spot in the Tokyo Game Show next year (along with other mexican devs)
that's cool as FUCK
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>>159059569

Yeah, a small group went this year, and he said they were impressed at how much people actually play visual novels. Honestly, it didn't occur to me to apply this year because I don't get along that well with the local scene.
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Decided to play an actual EVN, so I downloaded Lost Girl's [Diary] because it looked less shitty than the other free ones.

It's a bit clunky, but the artist did a nice job on the expressive sprites for these "meet-heads".
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>>159060864
I'll just leave this here.
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>>159035085
They didn't make Megyn hot enough.
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>>159063572

No one is actually hot. Except maybe Rubio.
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>>159068876
Well, I wouldn't expect the men to be hot. Surely the appeal is that they are powerful, cruel, and ugly
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>>159063572
>There will never be an Andre and Meegan dating sim.
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>>159073757
the proportions

i don't understand
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>>159073757
How's that going?
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>>159074175
One's not human, she's a small fairy thing
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can we talk about UAB here or no
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Why do you guys hate mystery evns? Are they all shit or just overdone or both?
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>>159074386
Yeah, sure. What about it?
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>>159074320
I meant the hand on the waist seeming real small compared to the face
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>>159074661
Ever since the golden age of detective fiction, there have been a ton of hacks writing garbage mysteries. Combine that with weebs who probably only read Umineko, or, Heaven forbid, consider things like PW and Zero Escape mysteries, and you end up with a bunch of garbage "mystery" [E]VNs.
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>>159074661
cupid was amazing, lucid9 is apparently boring but i haven't played it, break chance memento was awful and had nothing to do with the mystery for 90% of the game, and the jisei series is apparently poorly written.

the rest fall more into another genre than mystery
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>>159031343
Has anyone read that one yet?
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>>159076126
>reading yuri
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>>159076126
What's the title?
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>>159076126
Reddit said it's good
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>>159080439

/visualnovels has a boner for her writing.
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>>159081062
The Tolstoy of EVNs
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>>159081062
i can't stand the art/subject matter long enough to find out if I should, too.
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>>159081553

she has very specifics tastes. Props to her for writing what she likes, I guess.
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>>159083078
It's not your fault you look like that
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>>159083078
Is this another "progressive" game?
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>>159083957
Well, it is in the yuri jam.
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>>159083957
>tfw you can't date flo
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>>159058480
>we'll have an spot in the Tokyo Game Show
How would that work, exactly? Would you have a screen up where people could play a demo of a VN? If so I imagine not many would since they'd just have to stand there and read, plus the language barrier and all would mean few actually would be able to read it.
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>>159060168
>I don't get along that well with the local scene.
gib drama pls
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>>159085334
>the language barrier and all would mean few actually would be able to read it
can't quite a lot of them read at least some english? they just speak it badly?
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>>159085616
other way around i think. they speak it well but hide it
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>>159061563
Alright, that was pretty fun, and a fair value at the price of free. I'd recommend it, with the caveat that it's a very unpolished translation. Any recommendations for another EVN?
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>>159085334
Apparently the dating sim section had people lining up to do exactly that. Since the fund pays for everything except for plane tickets, I'd most likely translate the game to japanese by then.

>>159085579
Well, for one, one of the bigger national publishers was supposed to pick the game up - the pitch actually won the first prize at last year's national developers competition. But then neither me nor the guy who won second place heard anything from the publisher... not even a rejection letter. Apparently the organizers of the competition were furious about this, since one of the judges told me that if they came offering to publish me now, I should tell them to go to hell.

The competition itself was kind of unsavory, since most of the comments from other devs were rather patronizing about the fact that it was a visual novel (which I was expecting) and me being one of the few women there (which I wasn't). The judges themselves were far nicer, and their comments were pretty much concerns about how to market the game.

Overall, none of the people are actually rude, but whenever we meet at events and the like the conversation is almost never about the game and more about me "being a WOMAN who's making a GAY game about MONSTERS".

I understand it can't all be business, but for every conversation I have about the process of devving/what we've done since we last met, I have about three about "what's like being a woman in the scene".
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>>159087504
>tfw WHITE WOMAN making a GAY game about BROWN LESBIANS
Welp least I know what I'm in for now, thank you. I'll be rooting for your success.
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>>159087504
wow i thought that stuff was reserved for women in the TRIPLE AYY GAYME industry, not something as niche as.... mexican visual novels.
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>>159087504
>the fund pays for everything
What is the name of this fund and how can I get my foot in the door? Do I have to be a mexican?
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>>159089083
between kickstarter, publisher funding, patreon, getting a part time job at mcdonalds do you really need them?
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>>159089709
free money is free money
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>>159088214
Officeryou is a cuckaroo
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>>159090258
Who is still making more progress than you
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>>159083078
>>159084475
>yuri
>two nu-males
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>>159090412
come back, we miss you
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>That feel when you see someone call their game a dating sim but it's not a dating sim in any way, shape or form.
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>>159089083

Yeah, or at the very least, have an established company in mexico.

>>159088549
I assume it's worse in the AAA level, since as an indie I could realistically just tell anyone I don't like to fuck off if it came down to it.
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>>159091641
>That feel when you see someone call their game a dating sim
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>>159090803
Once I've finished the alpha (lol) demo, I'll think about it
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>>159091641
tfw you see someone call their visual novel a game
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>>159093135
VISUAL NOVELS ARE GAMES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>159093435
not
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>>159093435
>clicking a button is a game

microwaving a tv dinner is cooking
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>>159093692
No, it's a game! Obviously.
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>>159093564
>>159093692
THEY'RE GAMES

YOU TAKE IT BACK
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if vns count as games then why do we differentiate between the ones with gameplay?
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>>159093948
by removing them from VNDB
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>>159088214
>white woman
>making a gay game about brown lesbians.

>mfw I'm a brown woman making a gay game about white lesbians.

Knew you were white. Didn't know you were a woman though. Why brown? Fetish?
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>>159093948
In descending order of gaminess:

>Game with a mini-VN attached.
>VN with a minigame attached.
>VN with systems beyond CYOA.
>VN with multiple endings.
>KN.
>A book.
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>>159094151
We should collab and make the interracial evn of people's dreams.
>Why brown?
I just find it much more visually appealing in terms of design. I suppose you could call it a fetish in that regard.
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>>159094975
did someone say collab

do you guys need ideas? I have plenty of them!
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>>159095235
I do too!
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>>159095235
>do you guys need ideas? I have plenty of them!
>>159095396
you're probably joking but i'd honestly love an idea guy
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>>159095235
>>159095235
is it collab time again
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It's time we form 4LS 2: electric boogaloo
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we can do it guys! I I know we can! We're always talking about how bad every other EVN in existence is, so we clearly know how to make a good one!
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>>159095926
I'm already making a good one
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>>159095926
I will make it if you suck me off
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>>159096076
same
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In all honesty, would anyone here be interested in doing a collaboration together? I'm a writer and a passable artist, programmer, and composer. I have a very short story (1,600 words) that I think could work as a VN, which I can post if there's any interest.
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>>159098371

> 1600 words

oh, anon...
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>>159098371
Post it.
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>>159098371
Post art
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>>159098371
post nudes
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>>159098371
post dick
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>>159098846
seconding this
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>>159098371
>1,600 words
I take longer shits than it would take to finish reading that
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>>159098754
>>159099545
I did say it was short. As a VN, it'd probably be a bit longer.

>>159098831
http://pastebin.com/JpWXReEZ

>>159098846
>>159099434
Here's an old character design I drew, and a demo 3d render of that character. I am probably not the artist you want on your project, but I'd give it a try.

>>159099045
>>159099265
Let's not.
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>>159100381
I know you're probably proud of this so I won't be too harsh, but I think you need to focus on improving your own skillset before offering to work with other people, anon.
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>>159101293
The art or the story? I'm well aware the art isn't up to snuff for commercial. I wouldn't disagree about the writing needing polish either though.
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>>159101568
The story and the writing, art clearly isn't your forte and you described yourself primarily as a writer, so I'm inclined to believe that's where you think your strengths lie.
You're better than the average lemma kid at least, and I don't think there's anything wrong with you working on your passion project - but if you're seriously aiming to write for a living, then please give that dream up.
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>>159101731
Thanks for the input. This would be less passion project than practice, but since I am interested in pursuing writing to some degree of professionalism, I'm glad to hear another's take on it. If you have any time to spare, would it be possible to get your specific thoughts on the piece?
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>>159094975
Sure. Let's just finish our projects first. Haha. I'll contact you as soon as I finish mine.
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>>159102097
Agreed, I'm most active on twitter if you want to contact me before then.
Have you put your project up anywhere yet, or is it unannounced as of now? I'd like to keep an eye on it.
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No concept art allowed. Take that AJ Tilley. All screenshots must represent what's actually seen in game.

https://techraptor.net/content/steam-requires-devs-use-actual-gameplay-screenshots-store-page
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>>159101731
>but if you're seriously aiming to write for a living, then please give that dream up
I doubt they're at such an age where they'd have to completely give up on a skill. Pretty sure nobody just wakes up one day and can start pumping out endless masterpieces. It would seem to me that they just need to learn how to utilize their time and effort properly.

>>159102043
I'm no writer, but the biggest issue, in my opinion, is it feels like you have an idea in your head that simply doesn't come across properly to the readers. I thought that idea was pretty interesting, but there's nowhere near enough of a reason to care about the characters or anything that happens. Hell, it's hard to want to keep reading just after the first few sentences because of how it feels like it just kind of assumes you know what's going on and why you should care before these time skips. This is especially difficult for a story I imagine is supposed to to be rather emotional.
One could argue that's simply a result of the length, but I felt some very poor pacing and a bit of awkward structure and wording worked against you just as much.

Also, I felt it would have a pretty decent twist if it wasn't announced that Eno was having a relationship with a spirit right off the bat. Make the reader think it's a normal girl. You're certainly far enough removed from the main character to be able bait them into believing that.

If a real writer wants to tell me I'm full of shit, feel free.
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>>159104460
has he done that?
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>>159104668
Didn't Echo Tokyo have that one image that was used to promote the kickstarter that doesn't match the actual vn art? It's one of the Steam screenshots too.
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>>159104460
actually reading what steam says they are probably not going to enforce this.
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>>159104668
Yes, with tokyo echo
the promo art he always uses for it is way better than the actual ingame art
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>>159104856
You could get in trouble if someone reports you.
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>>159104587
Nah you pretty much nailed what I'd have said anyway, except I'd have added in that they're really overdoing it at times with the elongated sentences (break it down, don't force a reader to stare a huge chunk of TL;DR) and that at times you overdo it with the overly flowery language/imagery.
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>>159102625
>twitter
Got it. Hm. We're still pretty underground. I'll tell you as soon as we got some proper cgs done.
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>>159105196
Gotcha, I'll look forward to it.
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>>159104587
>>159105103
I definitely see what you both mean. In hindsight, the short length isn't doing it much good, to say nothing of the clunky prose. Both have been issues in my writing before. Thanks for taking the time to critique. Would it be alright I came back sometime later with an edited version?
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>>159105840
>Would it be alright I came back sometime later with an edited version?
Of course, it'd be welcomed even. Always nice to see someone trying to improve their craft.
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>>159074661
T R U E D E T E C T I V E
E V N
W H E N
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>>159105840
>>159106009
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editing is so boring
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>>159107117
listen to music while you do it
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>>159107346
listen to the screams of your enemies while you do it
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>>159107992
listen to the dick in your butt while you do it
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>>159107117
Still, better to have a text to edit than a blank page to fill.
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>>159108643
Not if you gradually start to realize what you're editing is shit.
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>>159035924
I mean I feel like most of the humor on this is already passe. Like, Marco Rubio and John Kasich already feel like relics of the past. This would have made a great NaNoRenO game earlier this year but even if this game came out next month it would still feel dated.
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http://steamspy.com/app/432100
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>>159111197
Stop being jelly. Do your own thing if you think you are capable.
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I wonder how many people are into non-consensual hand holding?
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>>159112721
>Stop being jelly
i can't
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>>159113317
I'm so sorry to hear about your condition.
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>>159113213
Will it then lead to wrist-pinning?
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>>159117025
Nah, but that does happen in Jaylah's demo route.
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>offer a bunch of literally whos from bandcamp and soundcloud some $ to use their music in the game
>no one responds
why
it's literally free money
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>>159118692
As a professional artist, I would be mad if my art was used in a shitty 'game'. Same goes for musicians I guess.
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>>159118692
I don't know how much you offered but licensing isn't exactly cheap. Also, most SC/bandcamp musicians aren't professional or active. A big problem with picking literal whos is the assumption they can process the information correctly when they have no experience dealing with projects.
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10
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>>159118692
>find a cool music guy on NG
>last online 3 years ago
>doesn't reply to any messages and his soundcloud is dead
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>>159077726
Once On a Windswept Night. It's ebihime's yuri jam project.
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Remaking the same CG for the third time.
Ah, so this is what it likes to be a game dev...
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>>159129669
>for the third time
JUST FUCKING FINISH YOUR GAME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159129669
Maybe you'd stop remaking it if you stopped chicken scratching.

Just kidding man. Keep up the food work.
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>>159129973
>food work

are you hungry, anon? You should go and get some lunch
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What are the evns set to come out late 2016-early 2017?
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>>159135757
- Yuri my way
- I can't believe my futa girlfriend is this ballsy?!
- My girlfriend is the President and I am gay?!
- Reverse Harem Protagonist
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>>159136089
I can't believe someone stole my - My girlfriend is the President and I am gay?! idea!
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Uh
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>>159140042
Something the matter?
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>>159142163
Yes, this >>159129669 thing's eyes are too far away from each other.
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>>159142701
No.
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>>159142375
Deleted first reply; sorry, meant to post it flipped around.

I think the right eye (left in this pic) is a little low.
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>>159143003
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>>159143220
Here's the best I can do (ie: not very much) just dragging bits of her face around. I bumped up the one eye, moved them both a little closer together, and narrowed down the sides of her head a little to compensate.
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>>159143626
Now she needs a dick.
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ded
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>>159147080
There's a lively debate going on in the discord.
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>>159147489
About what?
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>>159147580
Teaching methods, learning new things, talent vs. skill.
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>>159147795
Tell those "talented" fags to bump this thread, since I'm going to school soon.
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>>159148302
Will do. Don't forget your toast, anon!
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>>159148468
You had one job.
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Hello, it's the anon with the shitty story from yesterday. I'd like to improve at drawing as well, so I did this as practice this morning. I know it's not very good, but any feedback would be appreciated.
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>>159152481
Reminds me of homestuck anon's style. His upper arm on our left is too thin, but aside from that looks fine to me.
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>>159147795
I'd love to contribute, being a teacher myself, but I come to 4chan for the anonymity.
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>>159156036
You really aren't missing out on anything.
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>when the comments on your project thread are so cancerous you might as well have posted on /b/ instead
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>>159156036
it's not like you have to use your name as a nickname
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looking for a nice visual novel with longer plot(at least 2h gameplay), preferably not dating sim
recommendations?
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>>159160797
Sounds like game I'm making.
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>>159159337
No, but I'm lazy and don't want to keep swapping discord accounts.
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>>159160960
You got my attention, please give some more details.
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>>159163648
It's gay.
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>>159160797
>>159160960
>tfw what you've written is at least 25 hours long for most people

I-I thought this was standard
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>>159163851
25 is a bit much for me tbqh
>>159163827
good continue
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>>159163851
I will skip, just for lewd cgs.
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>>159164465
I have none

It is about story and not porn, because you can get porn anywhere (such as negligee)
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>>159164465
just go browse a hentai gallery
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>>159165084
No. I love to play(skip) porn games.
Think of it as "idle games".
All you do is pressing skip button.
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>>159036658
memes are dumb
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Looks like Ace Academy's launch sales have dried up if the vn is already 50% off on Steam this soon. Then again, it was in Early Access for quite a while.
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I'll take a stab in the dark and guess the reason for the deadness around here isn't because everyone's hard at work on their VNs.
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>>159170219
it's not like EVNs sell for extended periods of time anyway
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>>159173119
Yeah liscensing and stuff. I'm glad they made this at least somewhat understandable for me so we gonna have to work harder now.
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>>159173119
yeah i'm close to done, actually.
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>>159173119
look

I am nearly done writing and then I only need some art done and it's good
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how long do CG artists take? i've been waiting about two weeks.
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>>159176528
It depends what you asked for
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>>159177525
it depends how much you're paying them
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>>159173119
I'm nowhere near finished.
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>>159177525
a singular CG of a woman
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>>159176528
A month or more. There's a reason things rarely get released.
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>>159182268
Just do it without CGs. It's entirely possible, unless you're doing h-scenes, I suppose.
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>>159182398
And it drastically drops the game's viewed quality.
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>>159182461
I could live with that, as long as it wasn't compromising the game's actual quality.
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>tfw i can now do 20 CG in a month

feels good. used to take me a month to do 5 of them
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>>159184008
post proof or cheap bait
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>>159184432
I'm told this recipe works great for catfish, and costs almost nothing compared to store-bought.
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>>159184653
Why would fish want to drink koolaid?
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>>159185080
Maybe they're from Jonestown.
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>>159184653
a hick found out that a koolaid soaked hot dog with garlic all over it attracts fish. why am i not surprised
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>>159184653
>>159186705
Why not just used balled up bread? Seems a lot cheaper than all that.
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>>159165251
Holy fuck, are you me? I thought I was the only one afflicted with this particular brand of autism.
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>>159191307
>>159165251
pretty sure neither of you pay for these things
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>>159192270
>playing evns
I am, of course, talking about glorious jvns.
>>
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
and with strange aeons, even bumps may die.
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How did ebi hime's entry in the yuri jam turn out?
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>>159196270
Fairly good consistency, neither too viscous nor too watery; nice coloration; a few too many seeds for my liking, though, and the taste was a little off. Still, I'd give an 8/10, Best in County.
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>>159196532
what the fuc
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>>159196957
he's saying it was shit, but slightly better than the rest which were also shit. Gross motherfucker.
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>>159196532
Anon. That's gross.
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>>159197213
>>159196957
>>159197562
Pretty certain it's a just a shitty joke about jam...
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>>159197613
You're pretty sure are you?
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>>159197813
I've been to a county fair before.
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Dead-chan?
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>>159202272
When was the last time we were alive?
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>>159202781
before all the dramawhores and regular whores moved to discord
good riddance
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>>159205446
you're straight up delusional
this general was on life support waaay before that
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>>159154169
Thanks! I did another one just now. It was a skosh easier, so I hope I'm progressing. I'll post the edited story piecemeal as it comes.
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>>159206641
ganbatte
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>>159205769
Technically they're not wrong
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>>159052416
>>yuri, more yuri, some more yuri
>like eastern yuri
>every western thing with lesbians I have ever read has been complete shit unless it's anime style.
I feel like I kinda get it, but still kinda amazes me.
Also
>all anime yuri is total shit
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Let's not die before we even hit 250.
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>>159211256
Does something happen at 250?
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>>159212282
I will post my tits, you should believe me, I'm a artist.
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>>159212438
Looks like nobody wants to see your tits but me
>>
Will Idol Manager add trap and male idols?
>>
Netori games don't include nearly enough nightmares about the jealous spouse stalking your bedroom at night.
>>
how much should i pay my voice actors?
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>>159218735
0$
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>>159218735
Exposure!
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>>159218735
>evn
>voice actors
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>>159218735
I'd rather listen to shitty bg music, than shitty ingrish voice 'actors'.
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>>159218735
$1 * (Followers on twitter / 1000) per line
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>>159218735
As a non native, english sounds absolutely horrible and should be abolished in any voiced form. Especially american and british english. Man do they sound stupid/stuck up. I would rather listen to a rusky speaking english.
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>>159219942
Go to bed, Ivan.
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>>159218735
Only literal retards hire VAs.
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>>159218735
If you can't afford famous VAs and you're not doing an eroge, don't hire voice actors.
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>>159217235
netori game where you're angrily fucked by the cucked husband when
>>
How is Unwonted Studios Wander No More vn?
>>
how will I alt tab every 5 minutes if you're dead
>>
>>159228145
It's free isn't it? You don't lose anything giving it a go yourself and finding out

apart from your precious, valuable time on this earth
>>
Goodbye.
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>>159228145
Mediocre
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>>159228150
vigorously tabbing a corpse
>>
Anyone has a torrent for Myth?

I'm guessing it has MG DRM?
>>
>>159233861
You're looking for /vn/ and it wasn't popular enough to get a torrent.
>>
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/508230
sameface simulator is out
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>>159236532
>Price is a little high considering there is no voice acting (and boobs)
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>>159234101
>Myth wasn't popular enough
m8 it just came out in MG.

The VN is one of Nagato's favorites.
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>>159237220
It sold terribly from what I've heard.
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>>159236532
$10 and you can complete a playthrough of it in around an hour. It obviously has some replayability, but that's pretty bad deal.
>>
Stargazers comes out tomorrow. Who's gonna take the plunge and report back?
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>>159237562
to be fair it is a bit early to tell something like that based off 3 reviews
>>
>>159238041
Not me, Tao
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>>159238110
> early to tell
>$10$ (U.S. dorritos)
>1h (hour/s)
noep
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>>159238253
what?
>>
>>159238212
Not Tao, but I'll play it and report back. I wonder how the Steam version is, since the story is obviously focused on yuri sex.
>>
>>159238836
>obviously focused
it is?
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>>159239032
Story is about a 3 lesbians, 2 of which who are already in a relationship with each other, coming together in a 3 person relationship. And from pics he's posted there's other lesbians too. And there will be something out outerspace or something.
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>>159239687
i honestly thought the vn was about space with robots and yuri, not some terrible attempts at yuri porn.
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>>159239789
There are robots. There is a romance plot, but not sure how much actual story it will have.
>>
Ayy, that VR VN kickstarter is failing miserably
>>
>>159238253
If it's only just out you can't necessarily understand its playtime from the first reviews.

This may be accurate, but there are plenty of games where you can technically finish a playthrough in an hour that have far, far more than that to offer. Especially if the hour was achieved by skipping through things or getting a bad end.

I'm saying this without even looking at the game page or the reviews, jsut because I've seen a lot of idiot reviews in my time.
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hey, how chub could a girl be to still be hot? i need a bbw girl in my game because of plot
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>>159243867
Make her thicc, not fat
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>>159244580
some ref plz?
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>>159244963
The thicc robot game on steam
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>>159245314
aa, the Tao one? maybe she COULD be sized like the menagerie one, but it is difficult.. i plan something like 2 loli-ish heroines, 1buff, 2average, 1 thic and 1chub
yay something for everyone!
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>>159246161

The problem with this are the proportions. Her legs seem like they belong to a different body.
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>>159246161
I meant Haydee actually
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>>159246336
i know, i meant this pic only as ref to the body type, checking out the haydee now
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>>159246161
mang those calves and tiny feet are fucking disgusting, looks like some spoopy wheelchair-bound obese diabetic American walmart dweller
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>>159247616
>spoopy wheelchair-bound obese diabetic American walmart dweller
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>>159247714
good lord
>>
All sprites done. Can't wait to wake up tomorrow, hate everything and then spend the next month re-drawing everything.
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>>159246161
That thing is an abomination.
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>>159249306
you are literally and figuratively me
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>>159253540
Is the girl on the left poor or /fa/?
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>>159253540
Cheap whores the VN?
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>>159254439

She's rocking that Derelicte look
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>>159258015
mr trump, not all women are whores
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>>159259128
Just look at them
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>>159260512
i see no makeup, huge tits, or fishnets, these are the only ways i know how to identify hookers
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>>159260796
Learn to read then.
I wrote "Cheap whores".
They look like homeless/very poor girls, which means they will suck a dick for a buck.
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>>159261125
but sir, not all women are whores
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>>159259083
>google derelicte look
>brother Sharp article
>"He wanted to have a wife and a home. So, he puts on woman’s clothing and imagine himself as a woman. That way, combined, he would have both happiness and a home. Some people may laugh him, some people would make fun of him. But who will go to help him? to understand him?"
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>>159261453
I think you just don't bother to read.
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>>159261453
i'm a whore.
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>>159262173
with a feminine penis?
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>>159261596
I was just thinking about him the other day. I hope he's okay.
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>>159262263
>hormone addled tranny cock that will never get hard again

no thanks
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>>159262767
it can swing merrily around though as I'm sure we've all seen
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>>159262090
just because a girl is poor doesn't mean she'll agree to suck your cock?
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>https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=41039
>someone recommends VnsNow

my sides are in orbit. i'd be surprised if his viewcount was out of the double digits.
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>>159268036
Considering how few review sites exist and the comments/commentary he has I think you can safely assume he gets more than THAT, although still not exactly a bustling hub of promotion
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>>159268312
there's a decent amount of them, actually, but they all probably get lower than 100 hits per day.

not even viewers, but hits, which are probably 90% bots and spiders
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>>159268472
Oh there are many shitty little blogs no one has ever heard of, I mean in terms of review sites that come up in conversation
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>>159269490
>Oh there are many shitty little blogs no one has ever heard of
yeah, like VNsNow
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>>159270813
except we're talking about them, and have talked about them enough to have scandals about them, and we've encountered people who got into VNs through them
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>>159274096
>people on 4chan in a niche general that barely gets 50 unique posters are talking about them
>most of which could not be bothered to visit their website
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>>159274392
True, but it still makes them a slight step above Those Other Blogs
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>>159276250
>implying there's an above for people who can't get views to their review blog
keep telling yourself that JP
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>>159267287
Whaaat?
>>
Bumperino
>>
I'm not going to bump it again. Post progress you losers
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>>159286531
I got a qt gf!
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>>159286531
>writing and editing
>2000 character limit on posts
>"Post progress"
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>>159286531
i found a really great artist who updates frequently, isn't bogged down with commissions or running a patreon, and i'm freaking out a little
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>>159286776
Post art
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>>159287234
fuck no. this is definitely the person other people would try to poach.
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>>159286776
why would you go on the internet and tell lies?
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>>159287625
it's real, anon, and they draw 18+. i feel like i've found a unicorn
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>>159287580
post cropped art then
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>>159287708
don't come crying back to us when they inevitably fuck you over
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>>159287830
if it happens i probably will come crying, but something like this you literally need to take the risk.
>>
>>159287580
where did you find them then? DA?
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>>159287580
Nobody's going to give a shit bro.
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>>159288038
This, /evn/ literally helped me decide on my project artist.
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>tfw artist publicly announces they won't take commissions anymore
One step closer to making you my Wanaca.
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>>159288038
i know of at least one person here looking for a 18+ artist that doesn't price gouge, so no. i just wanted to tell someone about my luck
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>>159288702
If you're talking about me, go fuck yourself.
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>>159289159
you'll never get me millionth dollar!
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>>159289339
I just want to judge your taste.
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>>159268036
check the twitter of the guy who recommended vns now #TheKekOffensive #AtrociousAutism #gamergate
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>>159292290
>do so
>he's also a pimple-faced aloha akbur

why
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>>159292761
nah he's anti-islam. i bet he is a big fan of sam harris
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>>159298365
>actually making it past his posts to july

anon... go work on your game
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>>159298365
There's literally nothing wrong with this
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>>159298365
Respect
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>>159300513
>There's literally nothing wrong with traps
That's how I read it.
D-do I need to see a doctor?
>>
>>159302208
You don't need a doctor to diagnose faggotry
>>
Where can I steal some good fonts?
Don't want to look through free one.
>>
10
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>>159305576
>Don't want to look through free one.
free ones are great, wth are you on
>>
I fucking hate discord fags.
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Imagine paying $15 to watch some nerds talk about their picture books
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>>159318428
Can I fug it?
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Does anyone need someone to edit their writing? Or at least proof read their work?

I don't frequent these threads, but I'm bored and figured I'd volunteer my time here while I await a response on a job application.
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>>159318721
Well, it has hands and a mouth and a tailtip, I'm sure you can be creative
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Here's when to include rape in your story, or when people will expect there to be rape in your story.
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>>159320850
If it's 7+11 - will it be 100% or 75% or 66%?
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>>159320927
It's always 50%, because it's basically a coin toss as far as they're concerned.
>>
>>159320850
Yeah I'm not reading that. Post ending in 5 decides what I'll read.
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>>159321235
>5
Now you are stuck in a loop
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>>159320850
Why is it accusing guys of doing all the rape when it's lesbian fiction it's talking about?
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>>159321357
Because, as we've been bitching about on /u/, it's most commonly men that the lesbians are raped by. Sometimes as the Tragedy that explains why they're gay now.

Lesbian rape tends to be depicted in fiction as not rape-rape. Like, sure, your much older cousin felt you up when you were 8 and she was 18, but it felt nice and started you on the path to your lily blooming so it was all okay. And angry rivals aggressively groping you is sort of cute really.
>>
Who will win best yuri in space vn of the year? Sakura Space or Stargazers? Let JP be the judge.
>>
>>159326657
Being worse than sakura space sounds rather difficult.

Unless it ends up being ugly and with no plot, I guess.
>>
>>159328532
I thought Sakura Space had some ugly character art. That cutesy style combined with WC's fanservice designs just doesn't look right to me.
>>
Will polyamorous lesbians in space revolutionize the medium?
>>
I honestly don't get why Tao partnered with MangaGamer instead of self publishing. They don't offer Steam keys with purchase anymore due to fraud issues and can't provide ero patches based on what their Steam rep said. Steam users expect a free patch to purchase the game.

MG would still host the vn even without publishing it, and if partnering with them means he can't put it on Nutaku, then I really don't see the point.
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>>159320248
Sure, but you'd need heavy prior knowledge of an existing story to do it and have it make any sense

I wish I could help you help me
>>
>>159329027
seeing them nude too looked really awkward and out of place in that style

I hope inma still remembers how to draw cute lolis by the time she ends her work with WC
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>>159339435
Maybe they offered an advance?
>>
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>>159351050
these BUTTS
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>get sprites delivered
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>>159355652
Post them
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>>159356084
i will

on my project page when it's up
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>>159357676
So, never? :^)
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>>159358430
Hell yeah you know it
>>
>>159345568
I've never heard of them offering an advance before. And even if they did I doubt it's worth the potential lost sales by not offering Steam users a patch.
>>
>>159347681
shit padding once again
>>
AA dev are you still working together with that Rait guy?
>>
>>159362957
For the foreseeable future, yes.
Why do you ask?
>>
joke
>>
>>159368343
explain
>>
>>159370304
meme
>>
>>159362586
you should post a guide on how to pad
>>
>>159340080
Hi, sorry for the late reply. Of course that would be the main issue if I'm simply reading a script, but hopefully the writer (you?) can inform me of a character's personality, quirky speech patterns, etc.
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>>159378718
understand
>>
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>>159386714
>freckles on an anime

why
>>
I have to wonder if people who want Steam patches are just a vocal minority. If so, then it's not a big problem, but if it's a sizable number of people then it's an issue.

At this point I think Tao would be better off self publishing Dizzy Hearts and just paying IronStrom to to promote for him again.
>>
I wish that everyone in this disgusting circlejerk thread/board would commit suicide

Please kill yourselves and do the doujin community a favor "kudasai"
>>
>>159393497
Even if they are a minority it's pretty shit to just release things and then not restore the original content of them
>>
>>159394042
He made 2 versions, one with porn and one without. And the full vn is on MangaGamer's site, so it's not like you don't have the option to buy the adult version. The problem is that people just think Steam is the only place to play.
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>>159393749
>doujin community
>in the west
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>>159394186
then that's not too much of an issue

it still doesn't make much sense to not promote it for steam users
>>
>>159394236
Agreed, this shit doesn't ever deserve to be called anything but OELVN garbage. It could be more, but it never will be
>>
>>159394384
If MangaGamer gave Tao money to finish the vn, then it's possible that he can't distribute the 18+ version anywhere else based on his contract with them.
>>
>>159386903
I don't like how they drew those freckles, but freckles in general need to happen more often dammit.
>>
>>159393749
Normally I would agree, but if anything /evn/ is the opposite of a circlejerk. Most of the time we shitpost each other. I've never seen anyone fawn over anyone else work in these threads.
>>
>>159394526
dovac told me that he would keep ruining vns just for you. And I now see why he says those things. He's clearly the savior that VN needs.
>>
>>159394956
I vaguely remember a couple of people fawning over cuddlebeam
also there was one hilarious dickhead some time ago who demanded there be a private chat where all devs he deemed succesful would share their experience with him (I remember he named C.Love and dischan's jeremy and someone else), when people made fun of him he threw a fit and left, good times
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>>159393749
>circlejerk

you haven't seen the discord yet
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>>159395463
>Jeremy
>Hanging off Doom's coattails
>Successful
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>>159396123
post pics of discord progress
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>>159396190
not much to be had
>>
>>159396519
discord's reaction update is the worst
>>
>>159395463
I remember cuddlebeam being pretty much universally shit on, along with hentai writer. There were a few people who wanted to work with him, which is understandable considering the dosh involved, but that's about it.
He fits right in on the discord though.

>>159396519
Every single post in the discord is on par with this.
>>
>>159397884
hentai writer was shit on for coming in here with a holier than thou attitude because he makes money with porn games on patreon, as if that requires skill.

i don't remember cuddlebeam being shit on, but he's annoying in the discord, so i'm not surprised.
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>>159398236
He wasn't anywhere near as bad as hentaiwriter, but he's said his fair share of annoying things with a trip on. One of the ones that stood out to me was a post he deleted, which was essentially him boasting about not listening to anyone he works with and that's why he's successful, or something along those lines.
>>
Who the fuck is cuddlebeam. What game is he doing?
>>
>>159399428
haram protagonist.
>>
taosym talking about MG not being able to offer patches for h-scenes on Steam really just seems like MG wants to keep the profits on their own site.
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>>159398236
>>159398801
>cuddlebeam
>wasn't anywhere near as bad as hentaiwriter
Are you guys new?
>>
>>159404770
fuck steam anyway, Gaben doesn't need any more of your money or he's going to become the second moon
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>>159405889
Not saying he was good, only that it's hard to top just how bad hentaiwriter was.
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>>159405889
He said nothing wrong though
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>>159406730
You can say the same about HW.
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>>159406730
A grown ass man referring to themselves in the third person is automatically wrong on a fundamental level.
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>>159407202
>A grown ass man
pretty sure they are 16, or something.
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>>159407952
You can't draw like in your 16
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>>159408137
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I'm finally starting to realise I can't possibly complete my project solo. But I can't ask for help either bc that would probably require me turning someone down and I'm really, really bad at refusing people.
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>>159408137
what?
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>>159408747
I know exactly what you're going through.
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>>159408747
Just don't reply them, that's what most people are doing :^)
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>>159408747
dw, you'll never complete it anyway being such an incompetent pussy boi and all
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>>159409627
i bet you're one of the regulars on the discord you fag
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>>159408747
i put up stuff under another account. i'm not afraid to tell people no, but it is time consuming, and some of them hold random grudges if you don't reply to their terrible application
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>>159409715
>someone who can't even conduct business with an ounce of competence pulling out a 'i bet you use an online chat room!' as an insult
Why am I not surprised?
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>>159219396
>>159219647
>>159219843
>>159219942
>>159221213
The CGs are animated, and I think would benefit from voice acting. They'd look a little weird otherwise.
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>>159410768
oh boy, what's your budget?
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>>159410859
A little under 50k.
It's a short novel though. I was originally only going to do about 30k, but I put more money into the fund to make sure if there were extra expenses they could be handled.

We're close to done with the first draft of the novel itself, and all the storyboards are done for the animations as well.

The problem is actually animating. We'd want to hire voice actors before the actual animation process begins so we can lip sync.
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>>159411291
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>159411291
Lipsync is movement of the cute anime girl's lips according to voice/sound spectrum/samples.
So, you are playing voice, and lips actually 1 lip is moving.
If you are doing it not like this - you are doing it wrong.
Trust me, I'm professional sound designer.
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>>159411792
I'm writing a short visual novel with about fifteen minutes of animated cutscenes total as well. I'm keyframing, programming, and writing it myself. The budget goes towards my in betweeners, cg people, and anything else like liscencing or voice actors.

>>159411859
Oh! Thank you very much. This is my first time manning a project like this, so I wasn't sure how to go about it.
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>http://steamcommunity.com/app/445670/discussions/0/340412628174822243/

why
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>>159412069
No I mean where the fuck did you get 50,000 dollary doo doos from to self fund your chinese picture flip book?
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>>159412489
He/she/it just want more money.
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>>159412581
I run a few sites and blogs, mostly ad revenue and affiliate marketing. Its not too hard of work anymore since I just outsource most of my work on those sites now.

It gives me a lot of free time so that's how I have the time to work on a visual novel.
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>>159393497
>just paying IronStrom
the irony
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>>159405889
hentaiwriter is way worse than cuddlebeam

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/154374979/#154777468

he thought for some reason that this would come across as a realistic reply to him posting music that was ignored for 24 hours
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>>159413463
Looks pathetic.
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>>159412489
>all ages version on itch.io

I thought they allowed porn? pretty obvious MG is trying to keep the h patch on their site only, so why say otherwise.
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https://bionicpenguin.itch.io/moonlight

anyone try this? looks neat
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>>159415808
>neat
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>>159416041
funnily enough that's the reason i'm in no hurry to download it myself.
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10
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>>159408747
Who cares if you have to turn someone down? Just be professional about it. You'll never even worry after you've done it a few times.
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>>159412870
Based. I want to be like you, but in another industry.
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>>159416041
Coloring style seems really good, but then you have faces like this. Is it done by the same artist or do they have separate persons for lines and color?
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>>159031343
Is lucid9 any good? It caught my interest.
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>my VN is put up on piracy websites
>many re-write the story description in their own words and give mini reviews

what the fuck
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>>159421154
>my VN
Don't lie to us.
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Can I talk about unteralterbach here?
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>>159423932
Yeah, a lot of people here have read it. It's also considered an EVN.
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>>159423932
Of course!
UAB is the best evn.
UAB2 never sadly.
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desu
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>>159428695
nanodesu
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>>159429119
omae wa hontoni baka desu ka?
>>
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>>159420968
It's free, so you only lose your time.
As far as I know, it's neither terrible nor brilliant.
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>>159429385
shine kudasai
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>>159430917
i recognize that sendo
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>>159420968
>no sexual content
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>>159430917
Can I suck her dick?
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>reading Sakura Nova
>characters speak as if they're about to climax
>it goes on for another 20 or so lines

why
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>>159434252
twice as long as any other sakura game!
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I think Steam users need to work on their reading skills.

Game has rating of 15+ and offers no uncensor patch.

>it should have the +18 tag as well as "sexual content" one.

>Stargazers is a yuri game, showing the relationship between a group of 3 girls and their time together.

>It only says "Yuri", which implies female-female relationships - but it does not explain how said content is presented.
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>>159435216
Hi Tao.
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>>159438995
Hi JP.
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>>159439901
Hi Raeithfyer.
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>>159440429
How dare you not get my name right? I am the visionary behind Highway Blossoms and HRP. My revolutionary stories will define the genre.
And I so totes didn't use my position at Sekai Project to unfairly promote my projects over others. Just kidding I so did.
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>If there's not going to be an uncensor patch, then your game doesn't belong on Steam. Please remove it.
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>>159441367
Hi Toe.
>>
Based on the dead forum, no reviews, not listed on popular new releases anywhere I can see, and Steamspy numbers comparable to Rising Angels: Hope I'm going to say that Stargazers bombed on Steam. It's number 2 on MangaGamer's bestselling chart though, so it could make its money back there. I'm not aware of any way to gauge itch.io numbers.
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>>159443112
Can't really tell about steamspy numbers this early but it doesn't look like it had a strong launch, no
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>>159443449
The people interested on Steam either bought in on MangaGamer or said screw it and won't buy it because they're not getting a patch.
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>>159441367
they aren't wrong, don't sell cut content expecting people to fawn over it dumbass
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>>159444225

then get it on MG?
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>>159444330
selling on MG is fine, but don't complain no one wants the butchered version on Steam
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>>159444225
All ages is for people who want that version. People who want the 18+ version can buy it elsewhere. Why complain you're not getting porn on a store that doesn't sell porn?
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I'm curious how Stargazers did and wonder if Tao would've been better off leaving it ecchi like Toko, so that it had a better chance of grabbing the larger Steam market. The other thing he could consider is doing ero scenes like Kindred Spirits and Gahkthun that aren't graphic sex, so it would still be allowed.
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>>159444415
>>159444397
>>159443691
As far as I know, they announced that r18 version will be on MG AFTER steam release.
It's a scam.
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>>159445065
You're wrong. MangaGamer announced the r18 version months ago at Anime Weekend Atlanta. Its store page has been up on MangaGamer's site for pre-order for weeks as well. An 18+ version on MangaGamer was a well-known fact.
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>>159445494
>An 18+ version on MangaGamer was a well-known fact.

Well, except by retarded steam users, apparently.
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>>159445065
>>159445494
>Will there be an NSFW patch for the steam version of Stargazers?

>Currently there are two separate versions, we want to have people who want the 18+ stuff to go to Mangagamer while the All Ages ver. will be on Steam.
>about 1 month ago

http://ask.fm/Irraere/answers/138508175830
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>>159445065
It launched 18+ on MangaGamer's site 17 hours before it launched all ages on Steam.
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>>159445795
OH BOY, I SHOULD CHECK DEV's ASK.FM TO GET ANSWERS
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>>159446441
It was all over his twitter and the publisher's twitter.
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>>159446441
The publisher and dev both replied before launch that it would be on MG's site on the Steam forum.

This was a week before launch.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/445670/discussions/0/340412628174822243/#c312265327163293083
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>caring about yuri shit
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>>159448289
/evn/ is obsessed with gay shit
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>>159445065
It was only announced at a convention, put on the publisher's site well in advance for preorder, talked about on dev and publisher's twitter, talked about on several news sites, and posted about on the Steam forum all in advance, but yeah, how dare they not do more to make you aware.
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>>159448347
Disappointing.
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>>159448347

Maybe if all the hetero shit wasn't so boring we'd talk about them.
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>>159449716
I heard Sakura Nova was twice the epicness that WC usually puts out!
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>>159451137
one of the reviews on that one was interesting
>When porn is free all over erotic VNs have to offer a compelling story between their H-scenes. Good VNs let you fall in love with the girls so you care about them and can't wait to get to the H-scenes. Sakura Nova gives you a story for a few scenes then gives up and just has the girl say "wanna do it?" out of nowhere so it just feels as shallow as finding all the CG on the internet for free. You can literally see the point where the writer got tired of writing dialogue and just skipped straight to the H-scene. Besides that the story is quite simple and doesn't really go anywhere.
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>>159420968
It's decidedly mediocre in most areas

The overall mystery is interesting but a good 75% of the writing is slice of life (realistically it's probably more like 50% but it feels far longer)

It just doesn't take advantage of the mystery it tries to build, and it has some nice parts but they're few and far between
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>>159451602
I'm reading Sakura Nova now and that sounds 100% accurate. I knew it would be pretty shitty getting into it, but it actually showed promise with some scenes. Then "let's fuck" happened.
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>>159451602
>>159452457
Author tries to write story, but WC head says "Where's the porn? That's what people are here for." And the author just gives up, because WC doesn't want quality writing, just scenes that string together the H scenes.
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>>159452948
WC? Sorry, I'm fairly new.

Anyway, it's a damn shame, because the setting is cool and there's potential for interesting characters and interactions. They could have turned this into a 7-8/10 VN if they chose to take it more seriously.
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>>159452457
If you were given what the writer was probably given as an outline to work with, would you be able to tell a good story while still including that amount of H scenes in that word count?
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>>159453380
Winged Cloud, who is the developer.
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>>159453380
Winged Cloud, I assume. They make Sakura (something), a series of softcore porn games just mild enough to get on Steam.
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>>159452948
Nova was supposed to be their experiment with a longer story, and they hired a Professional Japanese Writer, so most likely the writer just sucks if he can't find ways to bring a more natural progression to the ecchi aside from "Let's Fuck".
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>>159453440
It's possible I could write something a bit better by shortening the H-scenes, but it would still be pretty weak overall. I didn't realise people were forced to work with word counts.

>>159453598
>>159453614
Thanks.
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>>159451602
>Kaguya is crying to the MC about a fight with her dad
>the two resolve to have an honest talk with her father and to clear up misunderstandings
>"but still, I can't work up the courage to talk to him"
>sex scene starts immediately after that line
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>>159453871
>I didn't realise people were forced to work with word counts.
Writers typically get paid per word, so if a dev is only willing to play for so many, then the writer has to wrap up whatever requirements they're given in that amount of words. Or they have to do extra for free, which in most cases isn't happening.
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>>159455045
WC's quota for ecchi/hentai they shoehorn into every VN will prevent the writer from ever being allowed to space things out in a sensible way and make a compelling story

but I guess it's been made abundantly clear that WC doesn't want to make a VN with a good story, just to keep peddling the breasts which is becoming less and less effective with each steam release going by the numbers
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>>159455474
>>159455518
Got it, thanks.
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>>159455518
I question if Steam is really the best platform for vns anymore. Nutaku/Kimochi could become a much better platform. And even MangaGamer is seeing much better sales numbers than they did a few years ago. Possibly itch.io if they allow adult content now and maybe dlsite, but I heard their rates are murder.
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>>159455518
>WC's quota for ecchi/hentai they shoehorn into every VN will prevent the writer from ever being allowed to space things out in a sensible way and make a compelling story

that's not an excuse, IMO. Nova had several CG that were not erotic in nature, and I doubt WC does anything more than okay outlines that the writer created.
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>>159455969
MG's customer base is primarily people who want JVN. Their EVN sales aside from Negligee are pretty shit.

They also lost out on Sakura Dungeon which drew in terrific profits and still does.
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>>159455990
The developer is supposed to give outlines to the writer, not the other way around. And with Winged Cloud titles it's not unusual for the art to be done before the writing.

>>159456312
Implying that's not because those EVN are shit. Tao mentioned that Menagerie actually did pretty well on MangaGamer's site. Guess it's just a matter on if it appeals to their fanbase. Problem is you gotta be Busty Creampie Maid for that to usually happen.
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>>159456312
>MG's customer base is primarily people who want porn.
ftfy
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>>159031343
Dis look good should I be hype?
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>>159457093
>being hype for KS
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>>159456312
>They also lost out on Sakura Dungeon which drew in terrific profits and still does.
No one cares Winged Cloud dev. Your games are a passing fad with no originality, so it's far from a huge loss.
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I am astoundingly socially awkward and bad at relationships.
And so are all my customers, apparently. Dear suckers, please do not take advice from me.
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>>159457093
Isn't that the one (of many) that the devs obviously didn't know what they were getting into?
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>>159456312
One of their all time best sellers was Huniepop if that tells you anything about their fanbase.
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>>159031343
Haven't really played any VN's beside the obvious ones on DS and Vita, anything you guys can recommend that don't have hight requirements so I can play on a laptop from 2012?
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>>159456946
I literally said aside from negligee and I don't expect stargazers to be up there for long.
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>>159457898
That game has sold more than half a million copies on Steam, I don't see how it applies to someone like Taosym and the Stargazers.
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>>159456594
>The developer is supposed to give outlines to the writer, not the other way around.
I doubt they give them anything more than a setting and the number of girls.
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>>159458739
Their names must also be Japanese and they must all have the same exact body type.
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>>159458996

and one must be a slightly dumb genki girl, while the other is a tsundere.
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>>159457901
None of our games are likely to have high requirements, but you might have been looking for /vn/ instead. Check the OP.
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>>159458235
Most of AJ Tilley's games have charted very well for long periods of time, tragically. Sakura Swim Club was also pretty high on the list from what I remember.
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>>159457901
Well, if we're talking EVNs then I'd recommend the following:

Asphyxia
The Reject Demon Toko
Highway Blossoms
VA-11 Hall-A
Sunrider
The Dandelion Girl
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>>159459454
Okay now where do I pirate all of these?
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>>159459454
>That list
Not sure if serious.
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>>159459454
go home sekai
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>>159459454
add major/minor and the list is complete crap
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>>159460338
Fuck off, or at least take the effort to figure out which games are free
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>>159460338
>being this inept

some of the google results for these are nothing but pirate websites if you type ___ download
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Hey Tao, Tem's sprite is hidden behind Risty's during the casino mission briefing.
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>>159430917
Thanks for bumping my game!

>>159434193
Only if you become her slave :^)
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>>159420968
>that desk where anything you place on it rolls off
>shitty NOTmac products
>Projection behind the desk so you have to swivel all the way around to see it
>that terrible ikea side table that you need to get down on your hands and knees yo open the bottom drawer
>that horrible "Screen" which is just wax paper or something
>fucking light from the window shining directly into your NOTmac
>that sad bonsai no one can be bothered to clip
>the shadows under the shelves just drop directly down even though there's a fucking window right next to them


1/10
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>>159474447
>11$
too unrealistic, should be 2
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>>159477183
itch.io isn't that bad actually. i would not try and sell exclusively on there, but it's worth doing.
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>>159474447
> pay what you want

that's the mistake.
>>
I just finished a playthrough from Temperence's perspective in Stargazers. The ending seemed to come up randomly to me and I never encountered the mysterious villain from the promo video. In short, it feels like the first chapter of an episodic vn. Also, there's no CG gallery that I could find, which is annoying if you're a completionist.
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>>159418686
I hope you find success wherever you go anon. If at times you feel discouraged, remember you will make it so long as you keep at it.
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>>159477672
>first chapter of an episodic vn
that's terrible so hopefully it's just something where you need to complete more chapters? honestly the idea of an episodic VN disgusts me.
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>>159478423
You mostly pick which of the 3 girls perspectives to follow in sections of the game. There are also cosmetic choices as well just for fun. Unless my choices somehow locked me out of something, then this definitely feels like the start of a much bigger story. It had a semi-resolution, but it introduced plots that leave you wondering where they're taking them.
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>>159478423
It said THE END when I got to a certain point. I might see glimpses of other things from the other perspectives, but this feels like the start of a series.
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>>159478423
I don't see how an episodic VN would be a problem unless someone overcharges per episode or something. I think it could be fun.

Like a webcomic, sort of.
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>>159479568
It's not advertised as episodic though.

>The Stargazers is a self contained story, and while we’re open to the idea of making more stories in the future, we’re designing Stargazers around self-contained adventures for the Stargazers Squadron in the style of pulp fiction.
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>>159479568
most are abandoned, take forever to deliver another episode, are flimsy excuses to either overcharge as a whole or deliver a product that is not finished, and the worst offender: many do not tell you it's going to be episodic in clear terms
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>>159479784
>>159479792
Oh. Well that's shitty then.

I guess an episodic could be done well if handled by the right team, but no EVNs have really shown promise?
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>>159479568
They haven't released another chapter of Toko for a year and half now and they release what is basically the start of another episodic vn that they currently have no plans continuing.
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>>159479968
they basically don't know how to write satisfying stories, you mean?
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>>159480576
So far it's they start stories, then move on to other stories without finishing their current stories.
>>
>Have questions regarding Stargazers? http://ask.fm/Irraere
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Played the second route in Stargazers. Definitely episodic.

And Vii is pretty funny.
>I brought these two together. Now I can fuck them both!
Or something like that.

Also she offered to fuck a guy. /u/ will be furious.
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>>159490560
post proof pls
>/u/ will be furious
don't count on it, no one has really been looking forward to this title given tao's own fetishes
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>>159490813
Too lazy. Basically the elf is super polyamorous and offers to fuck anyone she considered hot when she first got on the ship, including the male cook/mechanic. It doesn't sound like he took her up on it though, but he did say maybe some other time, so it could've happened offscreen. In this game everyone is basically poly at some point and will fuck whoever they want.

Bear girl is cute, I want to see her face.
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>>159491107
Your word is as good as bait then.
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>>159491589
Fine I'll got screenshot it.
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>>159490560
>Definitely episodic.
that's sleazy as hell
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>>159491589
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>>159492483
He's such a gentleman.
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>>159492483
what the FUCK is up with that guys proportions
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>>159492483
That is such an autistic way of asking if someone is dtf, holy shit
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>>159492816
I think it's the clothes. He's drawn other guys.
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>>159492483
>>159492767
>vii1
>vii4
where are the other 2?
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>>159492994
They didn't add much to the conversation, but since you're interested.
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>>159493203
>that robot design
J
U
S
T
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>>159492994
>>159493203
>>
>Are you interested in sex?
>Do all humans get so upset with sex?
>What about with me?
>Thanks for the offer, but maybe some other time. That said, you really shouldn't ask that of every human you...
>>
I hope this thread won't tear our VN apart when it comes out next year
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>>159493687
we will
everyone gets their day
I for one can't wait for my roast next year
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>>159493793
We got pre-roasted when we posted in here so it's gonna be alright

I hope
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>>159493668
It gets better. Elf tells her girlfriend that if she knew being in a relationship with her meant she couldn't have sex with other people she never wouldn't agreed to be in a relationship with her. Cue poly lesbians in space.
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>>159493687
how is this tearing it apart?
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>>159493203
>>159493454
Why does anyone like this art again? How is Tao even a name here compared to anyone else?
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>>159494650
Just generally speaking regardless of the spess yuri,mind you
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>>159494714
Behold
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>>159494714
You've been so brainwashed by Winged Cloud you don't know amazing art when you see it.
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>>159494404
post proof please because that seriously sounds like bait
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>>159495152
Skipping in this game sucks, but Okay. Give me a minute. It's toward the end of the route.
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>>159495262
Thank you senpai
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>>159495585
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>>159495585
>>159495836
2 of 3
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>>159495585
>>159495836
>>159496073
Cue why have a closed relationship when you can have a poly one.
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>>159494404
this kills the onee-sama
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>>159493203
>>159495836
Why did blonde girl cut her hair?
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>>159497037
She had long hair in flashbacks. Her with short hair is the present time.
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>3 girls are dating instead of 2
>This is seriously what /evn/ is getting assmad about
>inb4 hi tao
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>>159497548
I just posted what I thought would trigger /u/. Still need to go through Risty's route. But first, dinner.
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chubby elf is hot af
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>>159497779
Is /u/ run by christians now? Who gives a fuck? People are making dictator fucking simulators and loli games.
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>>159497937
Don't call her chubby, she doesn't like that.
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>>159492816
It's like the artist spent all his/her skill points on drawing face only and forgot to put some on drawing body.
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>>159497937
Who?
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>>159498024
It's mostly the purity fans that don't want men in the stories and that want a one true love romance. That's only a subsection of /u/ but a very vocal one that I've seen.
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>>159498172
The lesbian in space offering to fug a dude. But wait, doesn't that make her a bisexual in space? Bisexuals don't exist? Was this game approved by CLove?
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>>159498024
Speaking of loli games I haven't seen the dog fucker in a long time
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>>159498837
same
I miss them
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>is stargazers episodic?

>Short answer, no.

>Long answer, it's inspired by pulp fiction, Adventures of [____] stories from my childhood. So the idea is the adventures continue even after the story ends. Maybe we might do more? We have stories like Dizzy Hearts, Vagabond, Toko, those are more important right now.

>Even if we did do more Stargazers, it would be adventures like this one, pirates, smugglers, encounters with aliens, it's not intended to be a save the universe sort of story.

Except it basically is episodic. He teased a character in the trailer that never appears in game, but she speaks over a hologram message. And for spoilers Tem's route ends with her still not over her ex-girlfriend that she's still hung up on and still very unsure about entering into a relationship with her crewmates. They also introduce a plot about a criminal that escapes them after beating up and humiliating the MC, and a mystery artifact that you never find out any more about in the game. And in Vii's route, there's something up with the elf officials, that will obviously come into play later.
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>/evn/ is basically full SJW at this point.
>doesn't buy games.
>invents made up shit to score reactions from people.
>constantly circlejerks their preferred devs(friends) while accusing anyone with a dissenting opinion of being the dev they hate(person is a part of gamergate).

Same strategy, same behavior.
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>>159501703
>invents made up shit to score reactions from people.
I remember people overblowing the Brilliant Shadows vn out of proportion, but I can't think of any recent examples of this. It's more people thinking that a certain vn sucks, which is more a matter of personal opinion.
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>>159501703
>>constantly circlejerks their preferred devs(friends)
literally who?
>dev they hate(person is a part of gamergate)
liter-a-l-l-ly
who
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>>159501703
If you're referring to what was said about Stargazers, that was backed up with screenshots and I can confirm all that stuff happened in the game. As for episodic, it may not be intended to be, but introducing all those plot threads and not resolving them just makes the game feel unfinished, like the latter part of it is missing.
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>>159502781
What was said about Stargazers was out of context and the rest of Vii's route explains her behavior. But as the poster anon said, his goal was to trigger /u/. What makes him any different from SJWs who make shit up about games and attack devs? Case in point, anyone who disagrees with me is Tao, anyone who defends Stargazers is Tao.

It's a classic SJW tactic to dodge responsibility for lying.
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>>159503243
Except he wasn't lying. Vii explains herself, but she really did all the stuff from the screenshots. She did offer to have sex with the cook and didn't want to be in a monogamous relationship. Those things trigger /u/, but they are as a fact in the game.
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>>159496338
finally, a VN where you can be Anthony Burch
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>>159420968
I quite liked it, it was a great surprise for a free vn. The art was very consistent and polished, and while the overall story was a bit meh, the individual parts were put together very well. I'm also partial to characters getting butchered so there's that
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>>159503463
The purpose was to trigger /u/ so context was stripped away from those screenshots. If people who didn't play the game were told Vii was an alien who's species were all women, and she was curious about the first man she met it would be different, but he didn't do that.

It's no different than what's happening right now with the RimWorld dev, SJW behavior to lie and obfuscate to serve an agenda.
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>>159503854
>rimworld
>not an interactive porn game about rimming
I googled that shit for nothing
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>>159503854
>If people who didn't play the game were told Vii was an alien who's species were all women, and she was curious about the first man she met it would be different, but he didn't do that.
That still doesn't change the fact that she offered to have sex with him to satisfy that curiosity.
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>>159504415
>Alien who has never seen a male before who probably doesn't even know what a male is offers to have sex with them.
>Gets turned down.

Literally fucking nothing. Context removed to make it seem heinous when it's fucking nothing in order to set people off for outrage.

In what way isn't that SJW 101, tell me.
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>/u/ talks about games with "lesbians" fucking guys.
>Why you guys don't talking about real yuri games like Stargazers? /u/ only cares about not yuri games. /u/ doesn't care about yuri.

>someone posts about Stargazers having something poster accused /u/ of liking
>REEEEE stop talking about Stargazers!! It's real yuri!!

Sounds like it's the same guy.
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>>159504740
They posted the shot of him turning her down, so I don't see your point.

And even with context, it's a lesbian fiction trope for the lesbian to want to sleep with a man out of curiousity.
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>start Stargazers
>surprise lesbian sex in the first 5 minutes

As an aside, I like the background sfx.
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>>159504873
The 'everyone who has a different opinion than me is X' defense. In this case it's 'some random anon poster on a different fucking board said X so you're wrong'
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>>159505193
The behavior is similar as well as the comments though and we already know that /evn/ has alot of /u/ crossboarders.
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>>159505318
>I know that sometimes /u/ and /evn/ crossboard, therefor anyone who disagrees with me on /evn/ was an anon who disagreed with me on /u/
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>>159504873
what?
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>>159505543
Hi JP, how's Chris?
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>>159505575
/u/ was discussing (more like outraging) over Ladykiller In A Bind and Sweet Volley High having het and lesbian bad ends. So a poster accused them of not liking actual yuri, adn wanted to know why they didn't discuss actual yuri vns.
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>>159505580
He's below my desk sucking my huge black cock. How are you?
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>>159505685
nothing gets /u/ talking like dicks or het. it's honestly sad
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DAMN
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>>159505896
>>159505685
So let me get this straight. A poster who was mad that a board made for discussing donut-munching wasn't discussing donut-munching, but was discussing tranny-munching.

And this got this poster so upset he's here accusing anyone who disagrees with him of being this anon, right.
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>>159505929
She better watch or she'll be as chubby as her girlfriend soon.

What does /u/ think about chubby lesbian characters? Good? Bad? Don't care either way?
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>https://steamspy.com/app/436300

was this in a bundle?
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>>159506384
AJ Tilley taught them how to sell their souls for success like he did.

To answer your questions seriously, most likely.
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>>159506362
Chubby bothers me less than the huge tits it usually comes with.
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>>159506594
But that's true to life from what I've seen.
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>>159462343
>>159460427
>>159461552
But Asphyxia was good.
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>>159506652
Certainly, but I'm not here for realistic lesbian space elves.
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>>159506594
>not here for regular things.
>wants THICC with without huge boobs.

Fucking sick anon.
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I can see why /u/ poster is mad now. Someone either collected some of my comments here and exaggerated them on /u/ or had many of the same opinions of the game and exaggerated them on /u/.
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>>159498979
I'd leave too if I was nicknamed dog fucker.
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>>159509850
fucking newfag, that's his name because he's making an incest loli bestiality game
he was happy to given a nickname, he only lamented that it didn't include 'incest' in it
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>>159510856

Well, incest dogfucker would imply two sibling dogs were the ones fucking. That's not all that shocking. I would be mad too at having such a paltry nickname.
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>>159510856
>incest loli bestiality game
>wanting their name to be incest dog fucker
wew
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