/dbg/ Dragon Ball General

mathfag from the last couple threads here
I'm calculating the base stats of each race and I need to double check something
I need some level 80 players test following for me and write the damage values (every race)
Giant Storm
Justice combination
sledgehammer
Deathbeam
a full light string
charged ki blast

do it once naked and once with a full equipment set your choice
also don't forget to write which weightclass you are and your skillpoint sheet

why the shit did they not expand the story
it felt shorter than last time

Like most of the buu arc is missing, where is vegito or vegito being absorbed by buu actually

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No matter what you are doing, Appule is rooting for you.
Do well, for him.

>>159025436
The real question is how come a character like Nail made it into the game but Pikkon didn't? Pikkon could have had that flamethrower move as an ultimate.

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I kind of want to make a fridge that relies on this

>>159025401
a single death beam or a triple?

>>159025445
thanks appula-san

>>159025480
I don't know who pikkon is so that might be why

>>159025436
Because they removed things to make way for Towa Shenanigans.

I find it weird they some things were actively removed like Vegito/Gohan vs. Super Buu fights and stuff. Still no Android Saga either. I guess since the Z-Fighters get their asses handed to them anyways and they spend the rest of time in a truck traveling around.

>>159025445
please give me your babies appule-sama

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>>159025308
Is this you?

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You know the drill dudes

>>159025515
>>159025401
triple deathbeam

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>>159025480
>The real question is how come a character like Nail made it into the game but Pikkon didn't?
Literally the most throwaway characters pre-androids are better than any character post-frieza.

Nothing is more delicious than the tears of edgelords crying WHY IS DODORIA IN THE GAME BUT NOT BUUHAN

>>159025445
Appule and Nanaba can fuck off. Raspberry too, especially Raspberry. Fucker won't leave you the fuck alone like he's some big shot.
>>159025480
Characters that are currently missing.

Chiaotzu
King Cold
#19
#20
Dabura
Supreme Kai
Kibito/Kibito Kai
Uub
EoZ Teen Goten and Teen Trunks
Garlic Jr.
Bojack
#13-15
Hatchiyack
Tarble (I'm sorry I had to)
Not to mention Frieza Form 2-3, Semi Perfect Cell, all the random GT Variants, etc.

Pikkon was the dude that fought Goku in the Otherworld Tournament that looked like Piccolo, filler character.

>>159025587
>You know the drill dudes
Report everyone who adds nothing to discussions and only posts asses?

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Shoutout to the cool dudes that helped me get this new shit.

>>159025673
why isn't KING PICCOLO in the game hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

>>159025563
Not at all. Wouldn't be caught dead in something like that.

Sorry I just find the mission easy to deal with.

>>159025759
Didn't they say somewhere they were intentionally not putting Dragon Ball characters in?

>>159025738
you look ultra gay
stop posing like frieza you're a filthy monkey I will fucking end your race

>>159025401
got the current base stats
male saiyan (double testing)
melee:
basic ki blast:
strike super: 6.89
ki super: 6.76

female human (double testing):
melee:
basic ki blast:
strike super: 6.76
ki super: 7.00

male majin base:
melee: 6.87
basic ki blast: 6.87
strike super: 6.89
ki super: 6.68

fridge (double testing):
melee:
basic ki blast:
strike super: 6.89
ki super: 7.05

fem saiyan (unknown weight class)
melee: 6,67
base ki blast:
strike super: 7.82
ki super: 8.25

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>>159025673
>Chiaotzu
>#19
>#20
>Kibito/Kibito Kai
>Uub
>#13-15
>Hatchiyack
>more GT
>there are actually people who want to play as these

>>159025827
Shut up, Appule.

>>159025698
What if they are the kinds people who are capable of doing both at the same time?

>>159025847
I don't, but it seems kind of weird that some of them aren't in the game at all.

Also Chiaotzu was fucking broken in past games due to his size and hitbox.

>>159025673
I also wish we got original DB characters that can fly like Kid Goku, Demon King Piccolo, Tambourine, Mercenary Tao/Cyber Tao, Master Shen or Devilman. And give Roshi and Grandpa Gohan a jetpack or something.

>>159025738
np mang

>>159025760
>"I'm not an edgy tryhard!"
>continues to act like an edgy tryhard
The fact that you can't stop rushing to defend yourself from the bantz is further proof.

>>159025673
>>159025868
Don't bully Appule-sama

>Have a complete yellow majin family constantly farming for clothes over the past 2 days
>A million of literally every clothing set except Supreme Kai's
Was I being lied to when I was told you got that outfit from the Buu kids?

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>>159025738
No problem, m8.

>>159025673
Dabura is the weirdest omission to me. He's Towa's brother, they even acknowledge it.

>>159025880
>waifuposters that can hold an actual discussion
Literally doesn't exist.

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Save me from this hell.

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>>159025738

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>>159025919
Oh that's awkward, my picture didn't post

>>159025957
What rarity food are you feeding them?

>>159025926
No, its more like I would like to have a discussion on why people found that mission so hard. I gave my input on the matter and said I personally didn't find it hard or see why people would find it hard when you have plenty of ways to deal with said mission or ones similar to it.

But if you wanna continue the /v/ meme shitposting, then by all means go ahead.

>>159025912
I'd rather they skip shit characters instead of wasting development time adding them to the game based on principle.

>>159026020
Level 3

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>>159025957
you mean these?
I don't think i'm the anon that originally told you you get them from buus, but I got mine from buus

I'm starting to think there may be rares dependant on which tier of food you give them,

>>159026004
>Lanu's tits in that baby outfit

I might have to invest in that soon.

>>159026105
Yeah that's it, I guess I've just been extraordinarily unlucky.

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>>159025738
cont.

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>>159025673

The only ones of those that i feel should actually be in the game are King Cold, 19, 20, Dabura, Supreme Kai, 13, and Frieza's and Cell's other forms.

what's the best ki ult to spam in experts?

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>>159026021
>No, its more like I would like to have a discussion on why people found that mission so hard.
You don't want a fucking discussion on something that's blatantly obvious and has already been stated.

You literally just want people on an anonymous image board to think you're cool.

People find it hard because you are thrown into the fight alone and against AI that is set to attack you all at once.

You might fight like a pussy but 90% of the game promotes hyper aggression and combos.
Believe it or not some people play this game like a fighting game and try to get the job done like they would against an opponent in a fighting game. Very few fights in this game involve AI that gangs up on you, and if you take a Street Fighter or Tekken player and make them fight three opponents at once, they're going to have trouble with it.

You also seem to be under the impression that the mission is some nefarious wall that everyone is having trouble with. It's more that people are caught off-guard.

>>159025842

How the hell did you manage to get Male Majin stats before Female Majins? There's a fuckload of Females but no Males. Do them immediately

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>>159025997
Could be worst.

>>159026165
try giving tier 2 instead if you've been at it for a while

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You've got to be kidding me with these retarded names

Any characters you're disappointed they didn't include?

I'm still baffled they didn't include Frieza's 2nd or 3rd forms tbqh. Also, where the hell is Baby?

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>>159026250
yeah i feel you

>>159025673
I find it odd that we have never had a single game with anything other than Kid Goten.

I don't recall ever seeing Teen Goten or GT Goten in a single game ever. Sure he's an irrelevant character outside of Gotenks, but its so weird.

>>159026297
>Also, where the hell is Baby?
In the trash where he belongs. Now we just need the rest of the GT characters to go there.

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>>159026242
butz gang wasn't that bad
their competitors though holy fucking shit end my fucking life I want to die

>>159026198
Why the hell did we only get the interior of Kame House and we can't go outside?

>>159026339
oh grow up, sides warrior

>>159026297
I guess it counts as not including Frieza 2nt form but I was hoping for King Cold. My nigga gets no respect.

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>>159026297

Same. It's a bit weird that some characters mostly from the buu saga are missing but i'm not really disappointed that they aren't there.

>>159026331
>I find it odd that we have never had a single game with anything other than the one form of the character that did remotely anything
I find it odd that we get Goten and Trunks in games at all. They didn't do shit except fuse into Gotenks, and if Budokai 2 didn't introduce Fusions as an actual gameplay mechanic I bet they would've never become mainstays.

>>159026384
>GT fan telling others to grow up

>>159026242
Not him, but even people at EVO will back off and not stay aggressive. I mean shit you got teleports and shit for a reason.

With that said, who got caught off guard by it? There are literally 3 guys standing there.
>>159026281
Yeah I still don't get that dumb shit.

>>159026248
I've got the male majin data from dredrick

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Friendly reminder to REMOVE PVP

Does anyone have a list of the sets that can drop from the Buu kids?

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Why is future Gohan so fucking great?

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Who else /bancho/ here?

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>>159026198
Last one, goodnight friends.

>>159026418
>Not him, but even people at EVO will back off and not stay aggressive.
Those are people fighting other people who are the best at the game, not shitty XV AI. My point is that any good XV player will play by completely ripping the AI's asshole apart with combos and stamina breaks before they have a chance to retaliate. That doesn't work when 3 opponents attack you at the same time and you have no partners.

>With that said, who got caught off guard by it? There are literally 3 guys standing there.
Before that point there aren't any quests with 3 guys that all attack you at once. Whenever you have multiple opponents they're programmed so that only one attacks you while the others back off.

The Nutz Gang all attack you at once, and people don't expect it. Granted the group before them does so as well, they're way bigger pushovers.

>>159026486
this is by no means a completed list and I might have made a mistake or two
but 99% of my armor sets are from buu kids so most likely all of these are from buu kids

actually nvm I just remembered there's a lot of sets I have that came from interacting with patrollers in new compton
would be too much of a hassle figuring this shit out

>>159026557
Because he's from a timeline where Goku died of a heart disease and couldn't protect the world from everything, causing Gohan to step up. He has Goku's sense of virtue but with the intelligence of someone raised by parents and teachers instead of mountains and monkeys.

Main timeline Gohan's a bitch because Goku is still there and he doesn't need to be strong, so he's just smart. Not strong.

>>159026297
I'm more baffled by no King Cold, Cyber Freeza or Dabura.

>>159025992
Frankly, it seems silly to waifu one's own avatar.

Makes more sense to me to pick an npc for your character to fawn over.
I mean, if one was even going that route. It doesn't have to be romantic or lewd.
You could envision a rival, a coach, a bitter enemy or a friend.
Sure, it's all pretend fantasy crap, but some people like to envision their own layer of content over video games.

Helps enjoyment and replayability.

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Guys I have a problem.

I really like Pikkon's clothes, I've been using them for a while, but I just picked up GT Vegeta's clothes and... damn they look good too. Also gives my CaC a shiny butt

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Getting a reliable Expert Mission online is suffering. Time for meditation

>>159026708
I like the left one better, the shirt goes well with the hair.

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Is there a way to get a QQ bang that boosts two stats by five and cripples other two stats by five?

Also apparently spending points into basic attacks is pointless. 110 points boosts your basics by 11%.

>>159026021
>why people found that mission so hard
AI's a crapshoot.
Sometimes you can sit there and hit X until bad guy fall down, sometimes even nobody grunts like Appule start pulling perfect guard => combo into stamina break -> ha ha there goes a health bar while I bend your monkey ass over a table shenanigans.
Ain't saying you were "lucky", just that you coped with exigent circumstances.

>>159026709
You can't even cast fist on some expert enemies due to the always dodge too.

>>159026794

Any QQ bang 1-4 has the potential to do that I believe - 5 stars QQ bangs tend to boost 3 and lower 3 all the time.

>>159026794
Somebody out there one day will make a QQ Bang that gives +5 to All.
And then everyone he tells will also be qq

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They're even better when Lanu goes SSJ3. Something about those shaders, man.

>>159026709

Best method I've found for Expert Missions (offline at least, if you're struggling for teams) is to let your AI allies be dumb and charge it, sit back and spam Giant Storm.
Not the most fun method but it is reliable for doing them so far up to mission 17. (Still gotta do 18-20)

>>159026932
But then they'll just throw a giant ki blast and go hide away out of bounds. Hell one time Kid Buu came and he spawned directly under the map after the cutscene of his arrival finished. These missions are beyond infuriating for me because they break to the point of being impossible to beat and they do so 99% of the time.

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>>159026840
I found that triple threat gank squad way worse because they kept interrupting my Special Power Spell: Fist

>>159026932
It's less about failing and more about connectivity issues and people dropping only to be left with one, maybe two people and the rest AI at the end.

Also how does this game handle regions? Any EU people wanting to meet up and pose or whatever you do in this game?

>>159027068
The bugs are annoying - maybe I've just been lucky but I haven't encountered the bugs enough to prevent progress but they have made things take longer than they should have.

>>159027150
The connectivity issues are why I've been doing them offline, especially right now as not that many are online anyway

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>>159026297
At least Freiza gets his final form.

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So where is out meet up/ hang out spot in the city?

Do I have to do all the Expert Missions to get a Time Egg? If so I've only done 2. >_<

>>159027283
I like either the little lake close to vegeta at ground floor or the little forest area to the west of the resort area

>>159027306
do all the fucking time miniatures you DINGUS

>>159027306
You don't have to do any for a time egg. You get them from faction missions

>>159026932

Oh and there's only 17 expert missions apparently - for some reason I thought there was 20

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>>159026297

>>159025515
I'm a fridge, I use it. It makes almost every pve quest trivial if your allies are alive.

>>159026297
Champa
I want to bully his fat ass with beerus

>>159026165
I felt your pain until earlier today. I received one last insult by getting two of the outfit from the same group.

Guys

Best way to find Dragon Balls quick

I've been doing PQ4 but no success in a long time

>>159027325
Let's settle for the lake.

Comfy and not as crowdes

Wait a minute. When Freeza sees Cooler, his reaction isn't "who the fuck are you?", it's "what are you doing here brother?". Are they saying that unlike all the other movie villains Cooler is canon to the main DB timeline? Or at least the Xenoverse timeline?

Hey guys
if you Z rank every instructor mission and max out their liking of you, you unlock Super Saiyan Sonic.
My dad works for Dimps and he showed me it

>>159027589
>Or at least the Xenoverse timeline?
Everything is canon in Xenoverse timeline. Pan is teaming up with Sayian Man.

>>159027571

You've just been unlucky
PQ79 (Giant Ape Festival I think it's called) I'd say is better because it's lets you fight 6 Time Patrollers in one mission, so 6 chances for a Dragon Ball.
Even if you don't get one it's a good way to grind for Zeni

>>159027571
Do the explosion of planet namek one, I've got two full sets of dragon balls from there without not getting one once so far.

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Is there a z-soul that provides more Ki based upon being hit? I need it. For reasons.

>>159027639
No, in XV they specifically say that GT and the movies are a different timeline.

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>>159027572
I didn't mean the actual resort area because it's too obvious for a hang out spot
I meant this little spot here
I don't know why I like it but I think it's nice and I've never seen anyone here

might be a bit small tho

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Also someone was asking about a Yujiro Hanma.
Technically you can make them.

Do we know the math behind each point put into your stats yet? I want to minmax

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>>159027589

DIMPS knows that Cooler should've been canon.

Why does Toriyama hate piccolo so much? He's been a clown since the Cell saga, last thing he did was fight 17

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>>159027713
Well I never played that, so never mind. Either way just go with the flow bro, nothing makes sense.

>tfw golden freizas massive AoE attack KOs your whole team

>>159027872
125 in basic attack/strike super/ki super is a 15% increase in power, points are most effective when used on ki/stamina, so dump 125 in ki and stamina and then 82 in HP. Use it with potential unleashed and it's just like you also put 125 points in all your attack categories.

>>159028003
Elite version on 15?

Yeah.

It does that.

Fuck that move. Only way to survive is super guard.

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>>159027946

You don't like his how-to mafuba videos?

>>159027946

It's basically the Goku Show now, featuring Vegeta - everyone else is basically there simply because they have been there previously.

>>159027946
At least he actually does things, unlike Android 18.

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>they nerfed dancing parapara
>DANCING PARAPARA

>THEY NERFED
>DANCING PARAPARA

>NOT JUST ONCE BUT TWICE

guess I won't be making a ginbuu in this game

>>159027872
people are working on it

patch when?

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>Goku black's voice in english

What the fuck where they thinking?

how the fuck do I perform a just guard?

>>159027754
I know

>>159028092
I have killed so many bystanders in that arena with badly aimed ults.

>>159028194
I hope they don't use that shit in the Super dub when it comes, honestly I'd really like the Turles voice as the Goku Black voice in the game.

So is basic attack useless in this game?

>>159028208
just
guard

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For anyone that wants to see the currently available instructor events:

http://imgur.com/a/wmx5O

>>159028465
>That Android 18 and Krillin conversation
This why they're my OTP

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>>159028465

>Those Frieza/Cell and Zarbon/Dodoria conversations

>Frieza's race never given a name
>Cell calls me a Frost Demon in one PQ

Uh... wasn't that just some kind of fan name? How did it end up in the game?

>>159028702

Cell doesn't give a fuck.

>>159028465
>zarbon's dialogue goes out of the text box
HELLO

>>159028465
>Yamcha tries to argue that he's the strongest human because Krillin doesn't have a nose and Tien has 3 eyes, so that means they're technically not really human
He really is pathetic

>>159028702
why can't characters make up nicknames for your race?

next you'll think saiyans are actually monkeys because frieza said so

>>159028465
Does Android 18 even have a job herself? And you'd think that getting half of all of Mr. Satan's money for life would be more than enough.

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Do the "all" healing capsules work on NPCs? I seem to remember them only working on players in the first game.

I'm ready to murder Jaco myself.

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>>159028850
REEEEEEEE SHUT UP
YAMCHA BEST CHARACTER

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>>159028850
I don't see krillin and Tien fucking people shit up in their very own PQ

>>159028873
I'm just surprised to see the term in officially licensed media.

>>159025673
Dabura feels like an especially weird omission since he's Towa's brother.

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for the guy that found someone called xenoverse2

>>159028089

In japan women have to become housewives if they marry and are expected to have children within a year or two of marriage.

>>159026297
WHERE IS BUUHAN

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>>159028972
>>159028946
Why they gotta do him like that bros?

>>159028465

>Taking over the universe does not interest me

It's amazing how we have no clue what Cell objectives were to this day

>>159028092
You just body changed with some poor random spectator in the audience.

>>159029194
Step one: Kill Goku
Step two: ????
Step four: Happiness.

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>>159028194
>>159028292
Well, honestly, remember that Sean Schemmel has no idea who Black even IS because Super hasn't been dubbed yet. That, plus Xenoverse has awful voice acting all around, even for characters who've had the same actor for decades.

I am 100% confident that when Super is finally dubbed, Black (and Hit) will sound much better.

>>159029143
They're just being honest.
At least Yamcha is stronger than Chiaoutzu.

>>159029315
>Sean Schemmel has no idea who Black even IS because Super hasn't been dubbed yet
You'd have to be method acting Goku's intellect level to have not figured it out immediately.

>>159029194
Cell's objective was to become perfect.
He achieved this goal, and decided that he needed to test his limits to prove his perfection.

I don't think he'd thought much beyond that.

Supposing he'd won, he'd probably search the universe for strong fighters, leaving devastation in his wake, but not really caring to rule anything, or even particularly wipe everything out.

He'd also have lots of little Cell Jrs.

>>159029210
>Tell no one
>Live out your life as random spectator would have wanted after he's brutally murdered in the ring

>>159029194

Cell was rushed

In all probability the androids were received poorly as villains and they shoehorned Cell to make up for it

You can tell especially because of Android 16, built up as the mysterious android to pick up after they beat 17 and 18, his crowning achievement was getting his head smashed.

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>>159028702
Not only does Chris Sabat play Vegeta/Piccolo/Yamcha, but he's also the game's voice director, and he basically just told Cell's actor to throw it in.

>>159029446
Cell would probably have tried ascending to Godhood once he found out about the Kais and Beerus.

>>159029436
>I'm pretty sure anon didn't mean "evil Goku" he meant his "character".

Though, I'd have watched a few episodes of Super to see how the Japanese did the voice first.

>>159029436
He saw evil Goku and made an evil Goku voice. How was he supposed to know Black's a fabulous motherfucker without any context?

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>>159029315

This is why i just play it with the japanese voices, maybe it's awful too but at least i can't tell.

>>159029480
>In all probability the androids were received poorly as villains and they shoehorned Cell to make up for it
We know what happened. His editor kept telling him to change things. 19 and 20 were originally going to be the big villains.

>>159029480
I imagine at the time the androids were their version of "oh my god Goku got taken out with a gun!"

It's a guy from red ribbon that suddenly got smart enough to build fuck you world destroying robots. After Goku and company systematically shat all over every invention he'd made.

Actually this happens a lot, random old losers fucking over Goku. Look at Gt.

>>159029484
That's cool, thanks for the info anon.

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>>159029540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojxl2Yih1Qk

He's extravagant and fabulous because he's Goku possessed by an evil Supreme Kai. But the game shows no hint of that, so I can see where Schemmel just went "evil Goku okay I got this."

>>159029606
Really, link to this story/info?

If true, probably explains why he gave up after that saga.

>>159029617
Yeah, I always thought that it made no fucking sense for some random Earth scientist to make cyborgs and robots stronger than Freeza. At least Cell was the product of genetic engeneering mixing Freeza with Namekian and Saiyan genes.

>>159029660

He is so fabulous, i hope when we get him we get some fun interactions between him and Zarborn/Ginyu.

>>159029480
His editor fucked it up.
Toriyama really was planning on using 19 and 20 as the Androids that destroyed Trunks's future, but his editor told him they looked stupid so he made 17 and 18. Then his editor told him THEY didn't look threatening, so he made Cell.

It's a wonder the Android saga was as coherent as it was with everything that was happening behind the scenes.

Why DOES xenoverse always have such shitty voice acting? What possibly could have caused them to ham it up so much?

They sound fine in the animated cutscenes, and a lot of the ingame cutscenes too, but once its just regular ingame dialogue the VAs just shat the bed, even the ones who've been doing the same character for years.

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Do we have any hangout spots on Xbox1?

Feeling like a little co-op...

>>159029719
Akira Toriyama: At that time it began to be more fun to think up the story than to draw the pictures. But with the story, I basically only thought of each chapter. That’s why I end up getting caught in these quagmires. (laughs) Around the time of Trunks’ time travel, it was dreadful. I kept drawing, and it just got more and more incoherent.

Kazuhiko Torishima: You only got away with that because Kondō was your editor. I can’t stand that kind of troublesome stuff. (laughs)

Akira Toriyama: You’re terrible to say that, Torishima-san. Right around then was when the Androids No. 19 and No. 20 appeared. You weren’t my editor or anything anymore, but you specifically called me to say “I thought that the enemies had finally come, but aren’t these just a geezer and a fatso?” (laughs) In truth, I hadn’t had plans for anyone but No. 19 and No. 20 to appear. But there was no helping it, so I brought out No. 17 and No. 18. Then you called me up and said “What, this time it’s just some brats?” So I brought out Cell. (laughs)

Fuyuto Takeda: So you hadn’t planned on Cell appearing at all?

Akira Toriyama: That’s right. I liked No. 19 and No. 20 just fine. And I liked the initial Cell fine as well.

Fuyuto Takeda: The bug-like one?

Akira Toriyama: But Kondō-san said “He looks ugly. Of course, he can transform.”, so I had no choice but to transform him into his second-form.

Yū Kondō: Was that how it was?

Akira Toriyama: And then you were really awful, Kondō-san. “This time he looks like a moron, doesn’t he? Hurry up and make him into his perfect-form.” you said.

Yū Kondō: But he really did look like a moron. (laughs)

Akira Toriyama: With second-form Cell as well, I liked him well enough. Actually, I had wanted him to play a more active role. But since I was told he looked stupid, I had no choice but to change him. (laughs) So I made him into his cool-looking perfect form, which was to Kondō-san‘s liking.

>>159029210
shhh

>>159029776
From what I gathered from Team Four Star, they don't have any of the footage when recording their lines. That's why we have things like Bardock very obviously drawing out Frieza's name in the opening cinematic, but his actor just giving it a short "Frieza!"

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Made me a punchguy as a second character after my ki girl. Name is just placeholder as I was trying out different looks, I'll remake the same guy with an actual name when I come up with one.

Post butts

>>159029776
No video to go from.
They just get the lines with no context and have to do their best.

They probably got to watch the animated cutscenes.

If your saiyan is bald, do they randomly grow hair when SSJ3 is active in this game?

>>159030009
>They just get the lines with no context and have to do their best.
I remember Sean Schemmel once responded about a fan asking about "Thanks for helping, Pan" instead of "Thanks for helping Pan", and he said it was essentially this.

They only have the lines and nothing else, so he took a wild guess and assumed Goku was thanking Pan instead of thanking the player.

>>159029891
poor guy

>>159029891
Toriyama is such a push-over

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>>159029891

>he could've stayed like this forever drinking people but fucking japanese editors didn't like it

reeeeeeeeeeee

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>>159030173
>>159029891
Bug Cell is best Cell, I'm mad

>>159029891
19 and 20 were lame as fuck though. Everyone else was fine.

However, no fucking editor or fan outrage was the cause of Toriyama turning Gohan into a jobber in the Buu arc.

Though it was his intention for Gohan to be the main hero originally after Cell, the man himself decided he wasn't good enough to replace Goku partway on into the Buu saga so he fudged it so Goku saves the day.

And considering how he treats him in Super...

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>>159029891
If he really didn't want to, he wouldnt have; its not like the dude had any power over him

Personally I'm glad the guy was around and pushed him towards a more badass arc villain, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten this perfection

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>when you go back after fighting the hero of past times and see this
man this fucking blows

>>159030227

You only think they are lame because they got shat on.

The fat one was actually pretty unsettling when I read it the first time

>>159030240
Well it wasn't really a sudden decision. Toriyama said he'd been going back and forth on Gohan or Goku being the hero for a long time, and he ended up deciding on Goku.

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I get that they are children but why is the dialogue for Trunks/Goten/Gotenks so awful?

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What's a good team to clear Power Berskers with?

>>159030227

I disagree, i think 19 and 20 looked better than 17 and 18.

man they really dropped the ball on the story mode. Was shorter and lamer than XV1. Missed opportunities all over the place.

Also why the fuck does Goku save you in the end? Felt really anti climactic. Would've way cooler if the XV1 OC or Bardock jumped in. It was cool in XV1 but just felt lazy in 2.

Also, what the fuck is the deal with the medal shop? Almost got enough for Dragon Fist and the shop is only open on weekends? Whoever came up with that idea should be fired.

>>159030257
I honestly liked android 20 & the first phases the best
perfect cell looks boring and too humanoid
it's basically "human looking alien with flashy colored plates"

I also preferred hovercraft frieza over further forms

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>try the 50hits combo challenge
>everything is going well
>get to 49 hits
>enemy dies
>PQ done
Kill, me. For some reason meteor crash ends at the 47th hit, sometimes 43rd. Like, it stops by itself despite me having 50% ki left. I could get a 100 hits if it wasn't for that weird thing.

Also, what is a good combo opening to follow with Meteor Crash for those 50hits? I only get 6/7 hits from the basic combo.

>>159030365

form 2 and 3 frieza do suck, but first and real form are godlike designs.

Especially his real form, he becomes this innocuous looking androginous alien but he's at his scariest then.

>>159030257

>If he really didn't want to, he wouldnt have; its not like the dude had any power over him

I thought that if a manga editor doesn't give you the ok you can't publish it.

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>that feel when you go SSJ3 Kaioken

It does nothing since it's just the Kaioken effect from a move going on, just went into a enemy character change during a PQ.
But damn it looks awesome.

>>159030274
Old Man Gero creeped me out as a kid. He could've been a cool main villain. Not as the final boss the protags have to fight, but as the guy ordering them around.

An intelligent villain who's 1 step ahead of them.

>>159030274
>The fat one was actually pretty unsettling
I agree but it wasn't enough for me to get over those hats.

>>159030274
Nah, people think they're lame because of their designs. Why do you think they're not even in this game?

>>159030447
Is that GT Vegeta's costume?

>>159030303
And he did at first try to make it all about Gohan and make him the super cool hero dude.
But after a while I guess he had decided he had written Gohan into a corner he was ultimately dissatisfied with.

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>>159030357
I like polite villains. First form Freeza is my favorite because he was also polite and calm most of the time, but Cell never really got that until he was in his Perfect form (until he started losing of course, but same for Freeza)

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>>159030420

>form 2 and 3 suck

Take that back.

>>159030436
It was his FORMER editor who told him that 19, 20, 17 and 18 sucked. He was working at V-Jump at the time, he had no power over him.
The only thing his actual editor at the time said was that Bug Cell was ugly and he should transform.

>>159026567
how do you get tacoman scouter?

>>159030365
I usually just run a basic melee combo up to 15-20 hits and run about 4 or 5 bars of meteor crash. Starting with a Stam Break helps too.

>>159030447
>4x Kamehameha + SSJ

Based as fuck.

>>159030487

It is. Just got the whole set a couple of hours ago, 3 times on the PQ was all it took

It's on PQ96 by the way

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>>159030560

Oh.

>>159029891
Man his editor is literally the fanbase. Ever notice how whenever he brings out characters that have fun/ugly/unique design everyone cries a river? They just want cool muscular humanoids like Saiyans, Frieza final form, Perfect Cell and Buu(Gohan).

When Toriyama brought out the opponents in the tourney arc of Super everyone shit themselves with "OMG IT'S FUCKING WINNIE THE POOH FUCKING DISGRACE AND WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT A ROBOT?" despite there already being a Saiyan, a not-frieza and a new powerful muscleguy (Hit) in there.

But hey at least Zamasu and Black (And Zamablackwhatthefuckever) are normal muscular humanoids so everyone likes them!

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>>159030678

To be fair, the pooh bear really did look like shit. Also people like Beerus and Champa, don't they?

>>159030595
I see. I have no clue how to reach that many hits with Femsaiyan basic combo honestly. If I could reach 15~ hits, it'd be cake as it always stops at 47 hits for whatever reason (from a base of 7, so Meteor Crash goes 40 hits max for me for some reason).

>>159030729
people only like beerus because he's adorable

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>>159030420
>>159030525
Best form coming through.

>>159030729
I hated him when he came out.
He's grown on me.

>>159030774
I'm not familiar with Saiyan combos, but if you're fast enough, if you cut off your combo just as your target flies away, before your last attack makes you jump after them, you can catch them and start a new combo stacking on the last.

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>>159025997
no

>>159030868
I see, thanks, going to try it out.s

Didn't Xenoverse 1 sell a lot?

Why do I get the feeling they had a skeleton crew for Xenoverse 2?

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Easy access, just lift my tail and go to town~

>>159025445
I want to hold his hand!

>>159030962
No this actually seems like they give a shit throwing a patch out only a week after its released.

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is this viable?

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Wait, they aren't memeing?
People actually like Goku Black and Zamasu?
what the fuck

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>>159030365
I have this.

>>159030962
at least there's a ton of quality of life improvements
Remember slowly running around the tiny hubworld which was divided by loading screens even though it was miniscule?
Remember playing the trainer lottery and searching for the places they'd spawn?
Remember meeting the requirements for a PQ's ultimate finish but then it just doesn't happen anyway because fuck you?
Remember when you did get the ultimate finish but nothing at all drops?

>>159025312
LEWD ALERT!
LEWD ALERT!!
In Gohan and Videls final training mission they say.
Gohan: "If Videl wants something out of you, she won't stop until she gets it."
Videl: "H-hey! That's between you and me Gohan."

Send help, drowning in lewd.

>>159031041
I want to bear his children!

>>159030962
Supposedly this is meant to be more like a Xenoverse 1.5. A stop-gap while they continue to work on Xenoverse 3.

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>>159031213
>he doesn't like gas the ningens race war now

>>159030365
If you're freeziepop race, Left click spam until you're rushing them, right click spam until ~17 hits then meteor crash. I regularly break 50 hits with this, yet IT WON'T FUCKING REGISTER FUCK YOU HERCULE MY RECORD EVEN STATES 57 HIT COMBO AS MY BEST.

>>159031234
What do you use exactly in the combo? If I could see the buttons it'd help. Also, the vanish is simply pressing X, right?

>>159031183
Yes, this is the current meta. Just get 5 arrows on your attack type of choice and it'll be just like having 125 points in it, then you can transform on top of that for even more bonuses.

>>159031183
Basic attacks can do a hell of a lot of damage when points are put into them.

The Blast and Strikes, not much changes.

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How does that look for a trap

Did Time Patroller Trunks go through all the stuff Kid Trunks went through or no?

>>159031350
bsically get 5+ QQ for attack then pop PU
I'm a majin
or should i use kaioken?

>>159031321
>tfw chasing down poor ragdolled fucks like they owe you money and punching them into a red mist

Tiny icebox best icebox

>>159031317
>humans r stoopid and evil
>better kill everyone ever
>this is the best plan

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>>159031349
It's mostly just simple light attacks, the only heavy attacks were at about the 7th hit up until Krillin is knocked away.

The vanish was just pressing X after he goes flying.

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>>159031519
>he expects dragonball plots to be intelligent

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>>159031213
>He doesn't adore his superiors in all their perfection

>>159031508
Potential unleashed, it's a flat 15% bonus to all damage types with no downsides.

>>159031584
Thanks!

>>159026709
Is that you Rufus?

>>159031516
Small freiza best. Especially when you're going strike specialist, so much fun.

>>159031503
In what way?

Time Patrol Trunks is Future Trunks.

So, he's from the "Goku died, Androids murdered everyone, went back in time 'oh-fuck Cell'" timeline.

He's not the same as the Kid-Trunks from the Buu saga onward.

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>>159031213

Ningen detected

All right I just managed to reach 50 hits with Light attack x5 > Heavy > vanish > Heavy > vanish > Meteor Crash.

It did exactly 50. Gonna do it again in a normal mission, now.

>>159030579
Pq 73 my friend.

Perfect Kamehameha sucks. What Ki Supers don't suck and are comboable?

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>>159031213
>He doesn't like the best villain in Dragon Ball period

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Any good exploitable PQs for leveling? I wanna find Great Apes 2.0

>>159031713
>teleports behind you
no you're not.

>>159031519
>i want to be the perfect
>better kill everyone ever
>this is the best plan

>I like turning people into candy for the evulz
>better kill everyone ever
>this is the best plan

>>159031743
Masenko

>>159031743
I can combo into dodorias launcher pretty well

>>159031592
Even for Dragon Ball this is pretty generic "humans are bad mm'kay" animu plot

>>159031743
kaioken kamehameha

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>>159031213

Zamasu is unironically the best villain since Frieza

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>>159031743
One-Handed Kamehameha skips the flips if you use it in a combo. It's perfect.

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>>159026213
why didnt piccolo just mafuba that shit if he's known the move all along

>>159031793
Yeah it was all downhill after frieza

>>159031864
And it looks better. Where to cop?

>>159031773
I've been doing PQ23 and I can do a full combo and they don't teleport at all. The problem though is that they die at the 40th hit. I'm not even Strike specialized.

GUYS WE REALLY NEED TO START FUCKING WORKING ON A PASTEBIN, EVEN REDDIT IS GATHERING INFO.

We have no QQ bang data, No PQ item drop data, No transformation unlock guide and much more.

>>159031901
the characters can only remember what toriyama remembers

>>159031916
I got it from next Friday's TP shop. You can change your date to buy it now along with some other fun stuff.

>>159032004
Reddit always gathers data for games.

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>>159031743
Serious Bomb is easy to combo because it's like confirming into a strike super. It's not so great in groups though since they might get knocked away while the orb is being made.

>>159031831
>wahh my shounen power fantasy series isnt deep and thought-provoking enough

>>159032004

So if Reddit is doing it why do we need to do it?

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>>159031350
Wait is there really no difference between having 125 in a stat and having a 5+ QQ bang?

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>>159032004
>By WE i mean YOU

>NO MIRA TUTOR
>NO WHIS TUTOR
SHIT GAME

>>159028465
How does one trigger these conversations?

Where do the PC gaymers of us hang out? Anyone from EU around?

>>159031631
I feel like I should say yes, but no.

>>159032074
Damn, Chie just kicked Broly's ass.

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>>159031464
Not bad, would be duped/10

Good name too. The classes could have done with a few more body types but overall I'm happy with what we got.

Gearing up to reroll with a new character soon. I'm split between either a fridge or a monkay. Want to go ki this time instead of strike.

>>159032074
Where do you get Serious Bomb?

>>159032254
I'm from EU yeah
There's no spot decided yet, I suggested the lake at the ground flour near vegeta's tutor though

>>159031464
it looks like literally every single other buufu shit thats been posted

>>159032065
B-But that's cheating

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>>159031350
>>159032115

IS there a cap or something? Because if you have 125 in ki supers and a 5+ QQ bang on ki supers you're still dealing more damage right?

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>>159032382
You're simply traveling through time, patroller!

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>>159031613
Delete false prophets

>>159032246
Max out your affection on both instructors.

>>159030962
Probably because the game is just Xenoverse 1 with a new coat of paint and extra cutscenes. Not worth the full price. Fusions is a more serviceable dragon ball game.

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>>159032295
Good luck with that considering progress isn't shared other than items. So we have to do everything all over again, which is fucking annoying.

Do wishes still delete your save after the last patch?

Does anyone else feel like they missed a Transport Clerk location somewhere?

>>159032541
this doesnt have anything at all to do with the question

>>159032572
Does that include PQ's and poses? As in do they stay unlocked or do I have to get them again?

When you say items you mean moves right?

>>159032661
items and moves carry over afaik

mentors, PQs, and story do not

>>159032316
I honestly don't remember but it's probably from the skills shop since it's from Mira and I haven't grinded any PQs with him in it, yet.

Err how do I grind TP Medals since I need 15 now?

>>159032078
I never expected anything of the sort, nor did my comment imply that I have such high standards.
What's so damned appealing about yet another fuckhead from way up the god-like being ladder coming down and deciding to kill everyone for the lulz again?

It's not even an original enemy! It's a fucking palette swap!
Like >>159031793 said
It's just the same thing over and over now, but they can't even be arsed to think up new villains.
Literally the previous dude they fought was evil clone Vegeta, now it's evil Goku and his cucumber flavored supreme kai.

What's next? The Return of King Piccolo? Frieza's Uncle Icicle? Super Saiyan God Cell?


The worst part is that this arc isn't even bad.
It's painfully safe and mediocre. About as exciting as a plate of cheerios.

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Have we discussed how stupid the name QQ Bang is? This is the best one I've made so far.

>>159032661
Clothes, Skills, battle items and I think Super Souls, you keep them.

I'm not sure about emotes. And you have to do the entire story again, that includes the tutorial, and the PQs. Also mentors aren't carried over.

>>159032614
>the question
Two questions were asked ningen

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>>159032768
>Super Saiyan God Cell

>Implying a Cell arc wouldnt kick ass

Japs didnt care about Cell though so it isnt happening.

>>159032731
That's ok then. I don't mind doing the story again since its decent exp and means moar photo ops with my new donuts.

Bites about the mentors though, I'll finish them up with my first character so I don't have to bother with future ones.

>>159032731
>>159032789
Thanks guys

>>159032851
Why do that not like cell? He is basically the best villain on the show.
If they were to make another cell ark, I just hope they don't change his design too much. He is perfect after all.

>>159032785
They call them QQ Bangs because people always QQ about clothing stats.

>>159032956
Just didn't care much about the whole "I am the perfect man" schtick. Thats why there's so much shit about Freeza (songs, RoF, he's even in ads/commercials once in a while) but Cell doesn't get shit. Japs can't get enough of Freeza for whatever reason but Cell was too unremarkable

>>159032851
>Cell comes back
>His Xenoverse actor gets to have the time of his life
He creates a Cell Jr who joins the heroes side instead

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>>159032768

I don't agree, i think Zamasu is a better villain than Cell and Buu, at least Zamasu has a motivation and reason to want to exterminate mortals, Cell and Buu had no reason or motivation to want to kill people, Buu was like, he was made to kill things? And Cell just did it on a whim.

At least Zamasu has a motivation, a plan and a reason to kill mortals. And i don't see the problem with Zamasu stealing Goku's body, did you also have a problem with Ginyu stealing Goku's body?

>It's just the same thing over and over now, but they can't even be arsed to think up new villains.

I don't understand, how is a genocidal racist time traveling kai not a new villain?

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>>159025312
>tfw I can barely survive 3 tp ghosts when they show up in PQs
How the fuck do you even survive pvp?

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>>159033043
Damn thats a shame. I love how he changes so much in his different forms.
>First form is a creepy, weird, but smartass asshole.
>Second form is less creepy and weird, more violent, still a sarcastic asshole
>Final form is the pinnacle of sarcastic asshole, is no where near as violent for the sake of violence. Shame he has to eat best girl for it.

How does stam break work.

Why is it sometimes i break theres and they recover it super fast without a super soul.

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>>159033072
Said it before and i'll say it again

I want a "what if" AU where Cell won and, after blasting a couple planets and eventually calming down, spawned a Cell Jr species before getting bored and fucking off into space and eventually becoming a mythical deity for the new Cell Jrs race

>>159033072
>Xenoverse 3
>Villain takes cell mid-absorbing out of his own timeline and plops him on SSGSS goku
>Becomes god cell and is incredibly confused.

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Well fuck me then. I thought I'd grind out dragon balls with a lower level character because switching to my main takes 3-4 loading screens, but time patroller levels don't scale with the level of the PQ you're doing. Even that Namekian, who's roughly ten levels higher than my character, became invincible due to his health regen ability.

>>159033226
Then have his race be obsessed with being as handsome as him.
And obviously give them extra stats for draining moves.

>>159033043
frieza's emperor of the universe schtick appeals to their servile collectivist instincts

>>159032074
did your character just do a triple shoryuken

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>>159033043
>Unremarkable
He was perfect damn it!

>>159031316

>Supposedly this is meant to be more like a Xenoverse 1.5. A stop-gap while they continue to work on Xenoverse 3.

Source?

>>159033226
maybe that's what happened to universe 6 earth

>>159033395
They said the humans destroyed it themselves with war.

So who is better?
>TFS Frieza
>TFS Cell

>>159033463
TFS Freeza was funnier

But Cell had moments

>>159033463
Cell 1st form > Freezer > Other Cell forms.

>>159033510
>tfs cell
Abridged Cell saga isn't over yet so he has a chance.

>>159033439
Well, Cell was just a weapon created by humanity. With the Saiyans still everywhere, and Frost running around being a public feature, they could have gotten DNA sampled no problem

>>159033259
>Even that Namekian, who's roughly ten levels higher than my character, became invincible due to his health regen ability.
Why the fuck do Namekians even heal at low HP? This makes them effectively invincible if they use great namekian because you can't hurt their HP.

>>159033561
Form 2 was kinda boring, and perfect hasn't really expressed himself yet.
I expect perfection.

>>159033463
Frieza, bar none
I just love the schmuck in TFS

>>159033534
This, but I need to wait for them to finish the Cell arc to fully judge Perfect Cell