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world championships edition

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>Upcoming Hard Mode Brawl:
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20324471

>Hearthstone World Championship:
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/esports/tournament/hearthstone-world-championship-2016

The Class of /hsg/ Strawpoll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11519436/

prior >>158838587
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REMINDER

>If you have already voted during the first voting period, you will not be able to vote again during the second voting period as your vote will have already been locked in.

Just posting again so others notice since last post was near the end of the thread.
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first for e
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>still no leaks
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>>158881298
I voted for handsome guy.

So I can't vote again?

Is that what you're saying?
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Do you want to cast a spell, /hsg/?
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>>158881248
Dunno when you voted, but the whole second paragraph wasn't there when the voting started.
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we NEED to decide, RIGHT NOW, whether he is ACTUALLY our guy or not.
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Is it a waste to craft Justicar at this point?
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>>158881452

I cast fist
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>>158881529
You can get a good two, maybe three games with it if you start now.
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>You picked Pavel
>You lost your first match but that didn't really matter
>Whooped the shit out of the Korean
>Got beat down by the communist but arose like a fucking phoenix
>You picked Pavel and have 3 packs forged in white blood, blue iron and red fire
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>>158881110

>tfw using the time everyone is watching esports to get rich in arena
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>>158881451
Guys, it totally wasn't rigged.
The god awful rng just happened by pure chance. We didn't do anything so that we don't lose a shitload of money. Trust me.
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>>158881518
he's our big guy
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>>158881502
Couldn't tell you exactly. It was definitely before the whole thing was advertised in-game.
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>i'm here for the job interview
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>>158881518
He is our goy
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>>158881298
>Thijs cucked me out of 5 packs.
>200 Dust down the drain. ;^)
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>>158881518
Hippi is from russian imgboard no idea about Pavel
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>>158882197
average pack value in the long run is ~90 dust
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>>158881518
>Pavel could have been a famous Russian chess player
>he decided to go for a children's coin flip simulator
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>>158881298
This makes me angry
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>>158882454
Actually close to 102.
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>>158882454
investment fallacy
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/hsg/ fox and grapes general.
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>>158882454
yeah, if all you do with the cards you get is dust them
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>>158882960
jughead faggot fallacy
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>>158883131
and if you don't dust some cards its even more value
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>>158883131
Yeah, that's why it's considered that the packs are much more worth if you don't have the full collection.
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>>158881298
This is fucking bullshit. Fucking kikes. Fuck you /hsg/ for telling me to pick a retard who plays worse than I do.
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When's the expansion announcement?
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>>158883560
nov 4th
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>>158881805

That deck is fucking terrible, did you really get shitty opponents?
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>>158882096
*cums*
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weekly reminder
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>>158883535
Why didn't you actually check pro player ratings on the internet instead of trusting random posts on an anonymous message board?
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>>158883928
Is there a site for that?
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>>158883928
because Dr Pavel is destined to win this tournament
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>>158883535
>a retard who plays worse than I do.
oh, so you must be in blizzcon quarterfinals?
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Based Hamster

Based Pavel

Pavel's adapted Maly Rog play was a good close to opening week.
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>>158883870
>keep out of reach of Murlocs
>Rogue item

Rogueloc confirmed.
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>>158884273
>>158884247
>>158884121
>>158883928
>>158883535
IF I PICKED SOMEONE WHO LOST

I CANT PICK AGAIN??

ANSWER ME FAGGOTS

IF I PICKED SOMEONE WHO ADVANCED TO THE TOP 8

I CANT REPICK?

ANSWER MEEEEEEE

FUCKKKKKKK

I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT SHIT
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>>158884121
I used this one and got Pavel:
http://www.gosugamers.net/hearthstone/rankings

Even with this, there is luck involved, but maximizing one's chances is a decent strategy.
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>>158883870
inb4 5 mana heal for 10.
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>>158884527
no you can't. stop typing in caps fag
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>>158884527
You can't.
Blizzard changed the rules so that instead of picking a 2nd time, now you can't pick a 2nd time.
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>>158884527
Read this dumbass: >>158881298
You got rekt.
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>>158884502

>Solution
>to Anyfin

Probably just redressing Blade Flurry's removal.
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>>158884658
>>158884681
>>158884731
SO BECAUSE I PICKED THISJ

I CANT REPICK AGAIN?

I CANT REPICK AGAIN EVEN IF HE DIDNT ADVANCED TO THE TOP 8?

WHAT THE FUCK??
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>>158881503
I like her plump belly
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>>158884639
it's gonna be 2 mana
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>>158883870
HOLY
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Rogue is cancer and shouldn't get a heal
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>>158885047
>heal is unbalanced
you're the opposite of a cucktrol player, unfortunately there's not such a smooth way to label cuck aggro players
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>>158883675

>Superb mana curve
>Terrible

1-3 average /hsg/ shitter detected
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>>158885138
aggro is the saviour of this grindfest
those who drag games for 20 minutes are cancer that kill it
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>picked pavel

get rekt leddit
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>>158885351
Yes, you can't repick specifically because you picked thisj.
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>>158881518
If you didn't vote for Pavel because of 4chan /tv/ memes and because you thought his decklists are better than fuck you.

Of course he is our guy.
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>>158885410
you should love rogue then, the games are typically ~9 turns long and it shits on control
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>>158885410
fuck off cunt, card games should always be about playing minions with cool effects, not about flinging all your shit at the opponents HP
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>>158885563
too much hit or miss
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>>158885410
>aggro is the savior
stopped reading right there hoooooooly shit go back to Overwatch or whatever other ADHD simulator keeps you busy and off this board.
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>>158885794
>t.salty Anduin cuck
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>>158885940
>t. superior Garrosh patrician*
FTFY
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>>158886120
>implying CW would get this buttmad
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>>158884639
>>158883870
>>158884938

>Crimson Vial

Its actually a twist on: http://www.wowhead.com/item=49884/kajacola

Discover a random Spare Part, possibly.

My best guess is that it makes you immune for one turn and gives your hero Windfury.
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I can't make it! I was ONE WIN FROM RANK 5. HELP ME /hsg/
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>>158886367
Post deck
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>>158886367

Take a break and come back later.
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When do I get my packs for following a player in the tournament?
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>>158886441
>>158886485

Not much time left.
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>>158886635
I see the problem, you accidentally made a hunter deck. Netdeck midrange shaman.
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Huh, went 6-2 or something vs shamans with disco zoo, well that was a fast road to rank 5. I think it might be the shaman players at those ranks prematurely aoe-ing and getting outvalued, had 2 games go to a topdeck war when they ran out of cards, mostly just lost to godawful draws.

Had to switch to zoo when I ran into fucking eater of secrets warrior while playing secret face hunter and next to no shamans at all.
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>>158886824
I have 70% win rate with this Hunter deck. 45% win rate with midrange Shaman. I was one win from rank 5 and now I'm rank 7 again. Could really use the 400 dust.
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>>158886547
January 1st they'll ask you if you want GvG or GT packs
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>>158887036
If you currently have the 70% win rate with hunter then stick with it. But didn't you say you just dropped like 10+ games with it

Idk man >>158886849 is right. The shaman players are all shit if they haven't been able to hit rank 5 by now with shaman. Just don't play dumb into / with aoe and you'll get like 75% in mirror.
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I fucking hate rotation, ever since they officially declared wild to be a non-balanced fuckfest cards that I think are cool like rhonin will never ever be playable
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>>158887595
Are you retarded? Without rotation the non-balanced fuckfest would be standard moreso than it already is

At least we have 2 metas here so we can switch off to make it feel slightly less stale
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>>158886635
I'd cut both animal companion for 1 more secret (snake or snipe if you can't afford it) and either another 1 drop or 2nd horse rider. I experimented with a tiger instead of 2nd unleash because I kept getting 2 unleash dead hands fucking often, wasn't bad.

Can't go wrong with most things in that deck but I do think animal companion is fucking ass in it.
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>>158887595
>>158887815
I wish they just had a semi-annual nerfing. They can include the community and allow people to nerf the shit out of cards they are sick of seeing. People would have nerfed piloted shredder into a 3/2, reworked how Mysterious Challenger plays etc etc and we wouldn't have to kiss our favorite archtypes goodbye.
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>>158887547

Well I had.. Now it's 66-ish. Second time I hit a wall a win from rank 5 and start falling. I'm sad.
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>>158887870

Animal Companion is winning me so many games at the moment. I tried both snake and snipe instead of juggler but they weren't helping much. Dart trap could be fun.
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WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GOING TO REMOVE FIRELANDS PORTAL FROM ARENA
THIS MAGE HAD FUCKING FOUR THIS IS BULLSHIT
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>1 win away from rank 5
>lose
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>>158888824

I just played against a mage at 2 wins that had 3 skillstrikes and 3 firelands the reason I got to see them is because he rolled fel reaver on first portal and I burned the rest lmao I guess he's going 12-1 desu
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>>158888889

This is constantly happening to me. Every time I'm a win away I begin losing to rank 7-10.
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>>158887465
Lovely, thank you sir
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Fresh OC guys
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Fuck it I've been A WIN AWAY FROM RANK 5 SIX TIMES TODAY, SIX FUCKING TIMES AND I CAN'T MAKE IT.
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>>158891041

Play tempo mage
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>>158891041
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>>158891362

I don't have the cards. This is the closest I can get.
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Why can't there be a deck that plays like Tempo Mage but that isn't completely degenerate and reliant entirely on RNG?
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>>158892159
Because blizzard's idea on how to balance tempo swing cards is by making them rng based or shitty
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>>158890726
I don't get it
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Would it be wrong for non warrior control decks to have some sort of tech option to outlast otk decks?
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is cuckmad streaming tonight
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>>158893521
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>>158891041
>>158886367

400 DUST
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>>158893756
that only helps me SMOrc I want them to concede from lack of burn
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>>158893208

You should.
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>>158888129
No, please no regular nerfing.
That outright kills archtypes.

See Blade Flurry and Molten Giant if you need any examples.
Dead rogue and dead handlock.
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>>158894234
Well Blizzard thinks disruption is cancer so you're not getting any tech cards other than Loatheb who doesn't exist anymore.
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The sweet taste of freedom.
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>>158894825
I dont care anymore, I'm getting
Fucking IRON MAN NUMBERS!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFQK5eF_puo
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Why aren't you playing Hearthstone at 3.0 ~ 5.0 speed via Cheat Engine?

>Completely skip boring animations.
>Actually have more time to make decisions because you receive information faster.

Honestly once you go 3.0 you don't go back.
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>>158895825
how do you do this? does it just speed up animations, or do your turns go by faster too?
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>>158895825
>hooking cheat engine into an online game, especially a blizzard game
do you think I was born yesterday?
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>>158888129

>Nerfing

The right term should be BALANCING which involve buffing completely dead cards. Like all card blizzard every touched. Buzzard, warsong, flurry. All those killed archetypes that could be perfectly fine if the nerfs were reasonable.

Last card blizzard buffed was Unleash the Hounds, in 2014 i think.
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>End of season, literally nothing to do, boring meta

Anyone have any fun decks to mess around with
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>>158895992
Just speeds up animations.

>>158895995
Honestly I thought about I said it and realized people probably would think I was trolling. But I've been doing it since that recruit a friend promotion (I did it to skip the tutorials). Haven't gotten in trouble for it.
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>fought 10 hours to get rank 5.
>after rank 5 straight to rank 4 without a single defeat.

Why is rank 5 so easy?
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>>158896252
say no more
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>>158895995

Not him, but hearthstone security is surprisingly terrible. I think that the game is built on Unity and made for mobile, so they cant run all the security software they would like.

Stuff i already have done in HS that would most certainly ban me from many other online games:

>Played a modified android tablet version in my android phone while they hadn't released the phone version
>Changed the dlls of the PC version so it thinks i was on a sansung for those extra packs
>Botted a whole lot.
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feelio when farming last minute face decks with hyper control warrior
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>>158896252
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>>158896353
>face
>fun
pleb
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>Teacher into triple Innervate into Wisps into Power of the Wild
nothing but ass
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when's the ladder reset?
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>>158896935
2 days
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>my deck takes 20 minutes to win a game
>and 2 minutes to lose a game
I must really hate myself
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What do you guys want to see out of the new set?
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>>158898205

this>>158881503
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>>158898205
Legendary weapons
Zul'Again, but with Hearthstone
I dunno something actually fun
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>>158898205

more spells

>tfw we will never get echo back
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>>158896309
A lot of idiots think of themselves as gatekeeper to 5, so once reaching 5, the lose purposely to get to rank 4 with max stars and try their best to fuck over anyone who's 1 star away from 5.
Also a lot of people who are already at 5 but aren't interested in reaching legend play their non-tryhard decks so it's somewhat easier on rank 5. It's basically an oasis with tons of shit before and after it.
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>>158898205
slutty goblin waifus
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>>158898587
we already got that
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>>158898654
I told you. You didn't want to believe, but I told you.
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>>158898587

>no space goat or slutty goblin hero skins yet

Just what the fuck is team 5s problem?
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>>158898670
rule 34?
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Explain this
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>>158898654
>waifu simulator that just got a PC release is being discussed more than a 2 years old card game
Gee, I wonder.
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>>158898963
beast synergy
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>>158898963
hunters mark is 1 mana and execute it 2mana
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>>158898963
One summons a beast unconditionally and can hit face
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>>158898963

>IT IS A CONDITIONAL CARD. IT TRIGGERS LIKE 50% OF THE TIME.
>*Prints 2 mana 3/3 with charge*
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>>158898670
I specifically said "slutty". any dame who talks about "the light" is pure.
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>>158898963
It's not situational and beast synergy is actually a valid reason this time. It can be used to get off the better Kill Command.
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>>158898963
Warrior bonus.

Everything Warrior gets must always be a +1 version of another card for reasons :^)
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Post yfw you got more packs than Thijsfags
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>>158899545
>implications
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>>158899636
>tfw got the same number of packs as Thijsfags
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>>158899636
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>>158899636
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>>158899636
>tfw picked handsomeguy so it's double satisfying because i basically stole a pack from thijsfags as he got knocked out of the tournament
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>>158881110
>Drop Yogg coinflip the entire match

Kek nice game
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>>158899636
>tfw am a Thijsfag
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>>158899636
>I am not a thijsfag
>Still got only one pack because naiman is fucking incompetent.
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>>158900201
there's only so far babbling book can get you
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Answer me, fags.

Do you bot?
What do you think of botters?
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>>158900647
same tier as people who use decktracker
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>>158900772
I only play casually and don't care to learn a new game.
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>>158900647
No.
Why would I care?
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>>158900772
no, thats literally the only reason to keep playing, because if you stop now everything was a waste

i think there is a good line about that from black lagoon
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Everyone who hyped Thijs please post your full names and home addresses in this thread IMMEDIATELY.

I am putting together a law suit to recuperate the opportunity cost of lost dust.
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>>158900981
https://youtu.be/ejwYpOTSQMU?t=4m25s
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>>158884864
get rekt reddit
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>>158900772
those titties
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>>158900759

>the day of rope for people who use track o bot is coming
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so shaman memed so hard they killed the game?
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>>158900772
I enjoy it and it's not a shitty waifu card simulator.
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>>158901836
>claw
>turn two coin a flip
>1 coin 3 3 weapon

nice game
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>>158901079
If we hyped Dr Pavel do we get rewarded
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We should merge /hsg/, /svg/ and /dng/ in one large /card game general/ for shitposting purposes.
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>>158902249
Does you game have any chubbies
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>>158902249
Only if you remove hearthstone from your OP
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>>158902249
got damn that game has some aesthetically pleasing art
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>>158900772
People like CCGs, and this is the only high-quality digital one available.
Nobody thinks HS is a deep, well-balanced game.
At the end of the day, it's a video game made for quick entertainment value, and only the tournament competitors (and Reynad) take it seriously.
Games like the one you posted (SV) might be better card games, but they're drastically inferior video games.

Oh and there's also playerbase. HS is a popular, socially acceptable multiplayer game that people play and chat about with their friends.

>>158902249
it probably doesn't even matter at this point, /hsg/ is pretty dead and the /svg/ playerbase overlaps by 95% or more anyway
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>>158903050
Not bad, weebstone
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>>158902972
I think I god a little bit wet
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But why no one talking about other new CCGs like ESL, Faeria, GWENT, Eternal, Duelyst,...
Why only focus on SV ?
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>>158903050
Post the commander with a big butt
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>>158900772
>>158900926
>>158902249
>>158902972
>>158903050
Shadowverse has a general now and it's at a pretty decent speed you can stop spamming /hsg/
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>>158903253

Whenever i try to talk about Eternal, people bash the shit out of me.

IS IT TOO MUCH TO WANT A GAME WITH INTERRUPTS?
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>>158903253

sv shoves free shit down your throat and has anime tits
most 4chan users are poor weeabs

ESL is alright but got boring pretty fast, tbqh I want the 1 new card a month and the solo pve arena to be taken and put in hs
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>>158903253
Lewds. Lots of lewd.
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>>158903358
Holy shit, this is the best art I have seen from anything in either hs or sv

does anything else even compare?
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>half of the thread is about SV

DEAD THREAD and game
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>>158903358
>>158904593
I gotta admit, the one thing I like about the game is the artwork.
Still, it's not something I would introduce my normie friends to.
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>people STILL assblasted about yogg.

I love it, I play him in most all of my decks and people get so fucking mad when he helps me. I thank Blizzard for making him a card
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>>158905136
you
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>>158903253
SV is the flavor of the month because of streamers and recent steam release.

As for the others:
ESL is just a quick cash-in that bethesda obviously didn't invest much into.
Faeria and Duelyst went out on a limb with new formats. Good tries, but they just didn't catch on.
Eternal is digital magic #984 and has little to distinguish itself from the previous miserable failures beyond a higher budget and better visual design.

Gwent is interesting but very few people have received beta keys (i didn't either), and even fewer people have spent the $100s necessary to experience much of the content.
It's also not very optimized for spectating.
Nox & others tried streaming it but they ran into both problems.

>>158903374
FYI, yes. Extensive manual interrupts are extremely undesirable in digital games.

>>158904850
people are just looking for alternatives since team5 is fucking up so much
it's not really that people are posting about SV, they're posting about <CCG that i desperately hope will replace my addiction to HS>
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WHO'S THE FUCKING MEMER THAT STARTED PUTTING KODO BACK INTO N'ZOTH/ANYFIN PALADIN REEEEEEE
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>>158905591
It's always had kodo you shitter.
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>>158905883
>Just stop this nonsense go play SV
I already am, I'm still doing my quests on hearthstone though.
Want to have gold when the next expansion comes along, that's usually the best and more fun time to play.
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It fucking amazes me how shit team 5 is.
How can one dev team be so incompetent?
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>I literally picked the most ugly and autistic looking asian on the champion list
>All those free packs
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>>158905591
It never left
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>>158906287
Hello friend I am also too intelligent for statistical analysis
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>>158905591
getting tired of this buttmad all-caps netdecker cancer posting
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>>158906287
Good thing Trump didn't qualify :^)
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>>158906570
Fuck off Eloise

I'm tired of your incessant bullying
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>>158905989
>>158906317
I haven't see it being played that much so I assumed the list changed to not include it

>>158906493
but I'm playing Reno N'zoth Elise Mage
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>>158906231
Ben "HAHAHAHAHA" Brode is their leader
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>>158906287
I picked Che0nsu too, how many packs did we earn already?
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Shadowverse fags HAVE to leave

RIGHT

NOW

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158906967
More like Ben "pizza delivery guy who is not even NEAR to be qualified to even work as an ideas guy how many cocks did he lick to go so far" is their leader
>>
report cards
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>>158907356
Do you have all golden portraits?
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>>158907760
with 8000 wins i would really hope so
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>>158907075
We're just getting started, buddy.
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>>158907852
naturally
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>>158900201
>betting on Naiman

did you even watch the EU championships? he only knows how to play hunter.
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>>158907356

new cards when?
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>>158906987
>Che0nsu
>uglier and more autistic than Yulsic the mouthbreather
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>>158908404
>They are not the same person
Holy shit they are alike
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>>158908554
NIPSLIP
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the rampage quest is actually pretty fun
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>>158908404
Literally our guy
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>>158909515
>build pirate rogue
>destroy dragon warrior

I'm starting to like the new quests.
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>play casual for quests
>encounter someone that summons the ancient one
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>>158910112
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>158910112
>gets removed for 3 mana
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>hafu makes fun of people for being bad
>she thinks you *have* to use mark of yshaarj on a beast
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suggestions?
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>>158910112
if you killed it you're a faggot
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>>158910725
Healing wave might be good, so would emperor for bigger combos.
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>>158906419

"Statistical analysis"

when the analysis is based on irrelevant games from random shitters playing the decks in the VS report, and non-significant numbers of games between pros.

Im LMAOing at your life while watching based hamster and his "suboptimal lineup" (t. statistical reddit analysis) bringing in the packs
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Why isn't secret eater three mana?
what the fuck am I supposed to do coin it out and give the hunter a 4/2 and a bow charge LOL
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>>158911075
>hamster wins worlds
>paladins and priests everywhere

No pls
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>>158910948
I feel like healing wave may not be a good fit, but Emperor is definitely a good addition.

>tfw you have to cut a card somewhere but you like all of them
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>>158910725
Where the fuck is thaurissan? And no healing waves, are you nuts?
Also i'm guessing like me you don't want to craft hallazeal for meme decks.
Consider far sights for cycle, and i'd strongly suggest justicar.
Witchdoctor works as a violet teacher if you want to try it.
An ancestral spirit is fun for memes (ie on thaurissan or malygos) since nobody runs silence now
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>>158911980
I don't think all that stuff is needed at all. I added Emps, but he may prove useless, we'll see.

I think those are good suggestions, but I can't think to cut anything else off my list for them.
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>testing decks in casual
>nothing but aggro, zoo, and top tier netdecks

why do people even bother, you get literally nothing from playing casual, why the fuck would anyone do that shit? Is it because they're actually afraid to play ranked?

It's just beyond retarded and totally defeating the point of the mode
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>>158912518
without healing what exactly do you plan to do when you queue into hunter, mage, etc?
concede?
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>>158913270
What would you possibly want to test against if not the meta?
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>>158913270
People think it's easier to finish quests quickly in casual.
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>>158913270
>Is it because they're actually afraid to play ranked?
Yes, they're try-hard enough to play cancer decks but too nervous to go against people actually trying
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>>158913460
It's not for the meta, it's for the list, I have to make sure the list is playable before I take it to ranked. I know what the meta is, how do you think I make the deck?

And getting fucking wrecked in 30s flat by zoo faggots does not help anything.
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>>158913270

Are you retarded? The people playing casual with meta decks or close to meta decks are mostly just people finishing quests, particularly with the new AIDS quests introduced by Blizzard.

And why would you not want to face meta decks if you are planning to use the deck in ranked? Literally makes no sense to complain about it.
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>>158913270

>tfw you face meme decks at rank 5 but copy pasted top 100 grind lists in casual

I kind of want to see what wild casual looks now
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>>158915328
I don't see much zoo on ladder, it's mostly secret hunters, beast druid, midrange shaman

Casual is just a shitshow full of retards piloting cheap tier one decks they googled 30s ago
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Amnesiasc Tempo Mage list has to be the most optimized of all the lists.

I just reached rank 1 with, my highest rank ever.

>tfw Barnes gives something good no matter what
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>>158915495

So if they are tier one decks mostly, why are you complaining about zoo decks?
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>>158915710
Zoo is my most hated deck, just in general.
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>>158915592
Double Acolyte should warrant a Poly in my opinion.
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>Pick Ching Chong Guinea Rat on main account
>Pick Dr. Pavel on alt account
>Laugh at redditors that picked Thijs

BEST WEEKEND OF MY LIFE
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Blessings to you.
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I'm kinda new. What deck uses N'zoth? Nothing cheap probably, I don't have a lot of dust.
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>>158915806

I see.

>>158915978

Why? Not saying it's wrong, just curious for the reasoning. The decks where Polymorph saves you are mostly too slow to matter in my opinion.
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>>158916375

Control decks that use deathrattle minions, and yes they are usually the most expensive decks.
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>>158916375
deathrattle decks my man

lots of good ones out there, possibly cheap I don't even know
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>>158916235
Reminds me of Handsomeguy
https://youtu.be/cqH0cDs0TGc
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>>158916404
It's good for Rag, AoW and Sylvanas lists and a way to conserve your burn with Acolytes on board, for an extra draw. Might as well fuck the rare Res Priest on ladder too.
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>>158916375
the most expensive decks in the game
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Looks like he didn't make it to legend.
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>>158916375

you can probably make a cheap deck in wild to use it but not in standard
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>>158903253
Because /vg/ is full of autists that can't handle "m-muh meta" changes
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>>158917368
Take your dead game somewhere else.
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>>158917942
turns out paying twitch streamers doesn't actually help sales
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>>158917084
again
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>>158917368
Fuck off Kibler
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Apologize right fucking now
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Damn, I love having my games being decided by literal coinflips XDXDXDF
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>>158918092
>Prismata had a tournament
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>>158918169
why
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>>158918230
you really shouldn't play HS then. There's more coinflips than skills.
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TFW having fun with burgle rogue and keeping me afloat between 14-11
Tfw put fireballing a mage
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>>158918287
Prismata's idea to combine "base building" and tcg was really cool but the execution just sucked.
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>>158881451
>Going with plebbit logic

From a csgo fag, who used to be fanatic for the scene since 2013, plebbit is full of shit, I only visit it for news, because their hivemind is just hilariously wrong all the time, and not only from heartsone

>tfw still remember reading like 4 days ago, someone saying Ska should be kicked from C9 months ago, but Ska just carried C9 to the win on this event like yesterday, now they are all sucking Ska's dick again

Anyone who takes their opinions seriously, simply aren't very bright
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCKING BLIZZARD I GOT ANOTHER FUCKING GRUUL FUCK YOU YOU DIRTY FUCKING JEWS.
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>>158918545
Out* on mobile obviously.
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>>158918545
The mobile HS client is fucking trash.
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>>158898654
>Biggest nonkripp stream has <200 people
If normies dont watch it, it will die in 3 months
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>>158882197
Seriously, what the fuck thisj. I should pick amnesiac or pavel FeelsBadMan
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>>158920681

I picked Thisj because he was the only one on the roster I'd heard of.

Oh well.
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>>158918230
you play mage you fucking retard

Blizzard (created by Babbling Book)
Flamestrike (created by Cabalist's Tome)
Cabalist's Tome (created by Cabalist's Tome)
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Sometimes I forget Darnassus Aspirant didnt rotate, just that nobody plays it anymore
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>>158920828
>you play mage you fucking retard

Mage is on the bottom 3 classes for me since of how casino the class is

I was doing a quest there you retard
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Does reynad even make money from tempo sotrma. Who the fuck uses that shit?
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>tfw picked Hamster first for the memes but it didn't register so I switched to BBgungun.
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>>158920681
voting for Pavel has been quite the wild ride

>loses his first series
>was going to the lower bracket part of your plan?
>wins his next series
>in his 3rd series he's down 0-3 because of a """mediocre""" yogg
>starts to make a comeback and wins some games
>about to get eliminated and then he plays back-to-back gamewinning yoggs
>reverse sweep
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>>158921251
i don't really know how he gets any money but it probably has something to do with sponsors
>>
I went to make a Tempo Mage deck there as I've never played Mage as a class and always thought it was missing from my lineup (I play tournaments from time to time).
Crafted Antonidas and a few rares and epics only to realise I don't have Flamewaker so its all totally pointless.
I'm not spending a bunch of gold/cash for one card that's rotating in a few months anyway. Fuck this.
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>>158896353
thanks senpai

he brawled and my FAMdral survived
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>>158921251

The HOTS & Overwatch teams are pretty good though I don't know how much they make in winnings, they must be sponsored pretty heavily since there's like 40 people signed to the team over different games. Their CS:GO was pretty good until they were aquired by Immortals so that might have brought in some cash.
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>>158921623
>senpai
I could swear I said senpai

Matrix or 4chan fuckery?
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>>158921784
Are you really that new you dont know about the wordfilters?
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>>158896443

Almost no one gets banned for botting in HS, it's a joke in EU when you're around ranks 20 and you come up against some Russian account name with all gold cards and gold hero and instant decision making. They don't even hide it.
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>>158919784
Can't say I don't agree. I've lost games because of a bug that doesn't show your opponent ended his turn , or infinite searching but while you're Ina. Game. But has to do while I'm at work.
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>>158921251

I assume most TS members don't get salaries.
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>>158921936
I know what a word filter is. I haven't seen one actually implemented since like 2014. Fuck off.
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>>158899891
This. All my friend's picked Thijs because he was the "safe" pick.
And I was worried when Handsomeguy was swept in his first match. wew
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>>158922224

blame /sp/ and /int/

a bunch were filtered when numoot came into power
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>>158910076
>my master? why you're here so earlier?
Jesus Christ she speaks Engrish during this too?
I'm still jealous tho.

>tfw no gf
>>
>>158906231
Stainless Steel
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Why are so many people playing face hunter in wild all of a sudden? You'd think if they just wanted to rank up it'd be secret paladin / why not play face hunter in standard
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>>158922895
reset soon

time for memes friend
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>>158922895
mad scientist
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>>158923013
I guess. At least druid dicks them with heal
>>158923049
True, but healbot and belcher makes wild not seem so great
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but why
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>playing against cat trick as a priest

wasn't aware priest could get any worse but there you go

holy shit
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>>158923539
"basic cards are shit" meme
>>
>>158923539

team5 don't have the creative skills to make interesting cards
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I can't get past 2 wins in arena, is it because I have low IQ?
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>>158923850
You need to choose mage paladin or rogue
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>>158923850

> hs and IQ

it's because a lot of ppl are using the heartharena app, ur at a disadvantage if u don't use it urself, don't beat urself up about it
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>>158923850
just forget arena, it's even more broken than wild and standard right now
>>
>>158923539
Because your mother smells like a leper gnome m8
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>>158923539
because one will rotate out soon :^)
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>>158923539
It's a meme at this point.
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Has anyone tried hitting legend in wild / is it alot easier than in standard? Just hitting 5 in standard made me want to never play a shaman mirror again

Meta seems to be a lot more relaxed in wild, but maybe that's just me not being 5+

Also the ladder seems empty as fuck at night
>>
>5 hunters in a row

what meme is this
>>
>>158924665

It really depends, but overall it's easier due to a lot less players so the competition is not as good as in Standard.

But I've had months where I hit legend earlier in Standard than Wild since I start meeting people with unique decks I can't play properly against in Wild.
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REMOVAL

IS

BALANCED

IT'S SO BALANCED

REMOVE ANY CARD FROM THE GAME WITH A SPELL FROM YOUR HAND THAT YOU CAN START PLAYING FROM TURN 4 AND CAN BE CREATED FROM CONJURER, BABBLING, OR CABALIST. IT LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER. DON'T WORRY THAT I USED A POLYMORPH ON A 2/5 LIKE A FUCKING RETARD, I ACTUALLY JUST HAVE 3 MORE
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>>158924971
You happen to have trackobot stats for 5-legend? I'm just interested in what % of the time I'm gonna be sitting vs some secret paladin bot
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>>158918230
You retarded cuck, you turn 10\9 into 5\5, is what not good enough for you ? Or you want to Ben Brode personally suck your cock while you win all your games you inbreed dufus
>>
>put 30 beasts in a mage deck to do the 3 quests I Have, play mage cards (which Ill get off scarab), play beasts, use hero power
>every opponent I queue into thinks about their turn for 45 seconds while I play shitty understatted beasts on curve as mage
>>
kripp a fucking salty niggger
>>
>>158925581
>his happines is disgusting
I laughted
>>
>secret hunter
>secret hunter
>face hunter
>zoolock
>murloc priest
>cancer shaman
>freeze mage
>Freeze mage

Fuck standard and fuck Rank play
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>>158925880
>murloc priest
Hold up, the fuck?
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>>158925191
nigga I miss mtg 1 mana removal like swords/path.
HS removal is shit
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>>158925191
i always wondered why there's no removal spells that scale with the cost of the minion youre removing
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>>158926103
>HS removal is shit

Not only HS removal is bad and overcosted, but HS creatures are way too efficient and sticky
>>
>>158925214

Hmm, I don't use any addons, but they are very popular across the whole ladder. If you can play Freeze Mage or Patron Warrior well SP is not a problem.
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>>158925880
>murloc priest
post deck
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>>158926014
Meant murloc paladin
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>>158926393
you play 2 bluegill 2 warleader emperor and volajz, try to get 3 murlocs on board then volajz for like 20 damage finisher
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>>158926257
Yeah I'm not really worried about losing, have like 70% w/r vs secret pally with teched reno druid but it's more that the reason I want to try wild legend is for more interesting games

Ty though wild sounds pretty good rn
It'll be refreshing to play freeze again
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>>158926494
>win condition: board control
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I remember some people memeing it up with murlock priest in classic because of mindblast.
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>>158926583
its not board control, its 20 damage from hand

emperor thaurissan ticks on your 4 cards

you play warleader x2 (4 mana) blue gill (1 mana) volazj (5mana) for 10 mana total then you have 3 warleaders on board, 1 7/4 and 2 8/4 bluegills for 23 damage.
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>>158926629
>wanting to give mage even more spell synergy
for what purpose?
>>
>>158926629
>Subtract 0 cost from this card
Why is it written like this
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>>158926717
Because the number changes when this card is in your hand and you cast spells.
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>>158926583
>>158926694
sorry I fucked that up bad, you're supposed to get 2 bluegills and 1 warleader on the board then copy for 2 6/3s and 2 5/3 bluegills, 22 damage.

and it only cost 9 mana for the 2 bluegill 1 warleader split if you thaurissan all 4 cards
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>arena
>priest is at 15 HP
>I have two huge toads and a buccaneer
>he drops Dr.bomb
>kills my toad
>toad kills bomb
>bomb.kills toad
> toad kills bomb
>bomb.kills buccaneer.

I hate this game.
>>
>>158926771

>I hate this game

Its pretty shit honestly

Weird how many people fell for its memes, me included
>>
>>158926717
does subtracting zero confuse you
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>>158926770
I misread it anyway.
>>
how long till the next expansion, Kara and yogg and some of the worst things to happen to this game
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>>158926945
Announcement at Blizzcon, release soon after hopefully.
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>>158926841
I only play this while at work, I have good cards legendaries etc, but I prefer MTG on my free time for a card game.
>>
>>158926882
Just seems redundant with the line below it

To reduce barrier of entry for hearthstone players like me I recommend changing the line to Warning: Cards may explode.
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>>158927076

Same, I play HS to make time go by and commander and drafts with friends when I'm actually trying to have fun
>>
>>158927076
If only Duels werent so shit ;_;
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>>158926886
I also just remembered that curator is a card and wish I had volajz for some memes
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>>158927289
This looks like a Hamster deck, good job.
>>
>haven't played in 10 days
>rank 5
>suddenly mid-range shamans are playing 7/7 again

happend 3 Shamans in a row, am I missing something?
>>
>>158927450
its a shift towards beating control decks now that shaman mirrors are a bit less comming
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>>158927450
there's no set list, you can play whatever you want
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>>158927351
I don't know what hat means, does hamster meme with priest a lot?
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>>158927658

Draft FNM are the best and being able to pay the entry fee with packs is the best
>>
>>158927634
Hamster is in the top 8 of world championship with N'zoth anyfin paladin and the only priest deck.
>>
>>158927856
Thursdays are draft days but I usually work graveyards so sometimes I'll either show up late to draft or not go. But I try to make it to every Friday draft Since I got weekends off and if me and the misses aren't doing anything. I haven't done a kaladesh draft yet as I've been busy, but man, pulling 2 thalias in two weeks at a draft made everyone hate me.
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>>158926117
because then the game would be utter shit without even single target removal being low costed we'd have no choice but to play curve decks
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I wish I'd started hoarding gold sooner. I've got only 900 so far, and 1600 dust. How much am I going to need for the expansion if I don't have real money to spend?
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>>158928218
Probably about 2000 will get you one of the new meta decks, 5000-7000 for most others
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>>158928283
Thank you hombre. If I don't spend any I should probably be able to make it into the next expansion.

Hopefully they do a buncha free packs again though.
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>>158928483
Zero chance unfortunately, that was damage control from when they announced rotations
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why is kripp so shit at the game, he's entertaining sure but it's hard watching someone who PLAYS THE GAME FOR A LIVING at rank 16
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What's his announcement supposed to be? Is it HS related?

Happening today.
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>>158928694
He's an arena player and play ranked rarely, so of course he's not high rank.
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>>158928693
No chance there's damage control to be done about Karazhan?
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>>158928916
The damage control will be done by leddit when they release a 5 mana heal for 5 spell for rogue

Remember even at the beginning of karazan people were optimistic

If there's one thing blizzard is good at it's repeatedly giving and then crushing hope
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>>158928694
He gets triggered when the flavor of the month netdeck wrecks his asshole so he only plays meme decks at low ranks.
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>>158929063
>complains about netdecks
>half his deck is netdecks

I want kripp to play arena only or that weebstone game
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>>158929017
But karazhan is good.
Just look how many cards from it found place in meta
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>>158929017
>giving then crushing hope
Blizzard people skills on point
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>>158928213
eh i don't mean how expensive it is in general, just the lack of scaling
feels strange that removing deathwing is the same as a goldshire footman
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>>158929129
the problem is that the meta didnt change enough and is very shitty to play.

So yes, cards are playable but don't create new and fun decks. Instead we are still stuck in the same fucking shit.

Boy do I miss patron warrior, miracle rogue, handlocks, etc. Aka actual fun decks to play
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>>158929129
Great meta right?

Though to be fair blizzard fucked up really hard by releasing a fucking balance patch that left us with one tier one deck
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>>158929209
>feels strange that removing deathwing is the same as a goldshire footman
is this your first card game? If you look at magic/yugioh removal for example, shit gets destroyed easily by cheap cards, regardless of how strong they are.

I'm not trying to insult you here, I'm just saying that it's a common thing, and in HS removal are overpriced.
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>>158929129
>good
>played in many decks
no this is a retarded way to look at it
pic related
were these good additions to the game because they saw a lot of play?
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>>158929286
absolutely
I actually miss this meta right now. At least I could ladder fast.
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>>158929286
Yes
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>>158929286
RIP undertaker, my dearest friend.
I hope you're in a better place, with 2/1 leper gnome and other friends.
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>>158929280
I haven't played since 2014 but in yugioh a big trend was also how sticky the monsters were

In fact, it was generally the monsters out power creeping the spells / traps by far as the monsters could keep generating card advantage,and then the broken low spell / trap combo decks being heavily side decked against games 2 and 3 by flood gate cards, which admittedly hearthstone lacks because of brode
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It's not enough that they put me against the only meta deck that still runs off board persistent damage they have to shove reno at the bottom of the deck, fuck this rigged shit
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>>158929541
>blog post
>hide name and rank
enjoy your (you)
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>>158929280
i know it's pretty much universal, but i do wonder why they haven't printed a scaling one yet (like the "forbidden" spells)
they've printed all kinds of different removals and something like "destroy a minion: pay mana equal to its cost" seems like one of the most natural
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>>158929541
uaaa i won
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>Feel dirty playing lightly modified netdecks but I'm ranking up at a decent pace
>Decide to try some of my 8 personal decks
>Get my shit pushed in and drop 4 ranks
>Switch back to memeshit

I just want to play fun cards but ladder won't let me.
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>>158930256
I never really understood what's so bad about netdecking

decktracker and whatnot is grimey but what's the problem with using a deck someone else constructed?
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>>158929110
shadowverse vohiyo
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>>158930318
People who make up imaginary rules that it is wrong get upset at you.
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>>158930318

I guess there is just something rewarding about winning with something you construct yourself. Like buying a house for $200,000 is probably less satisfying than building one for $50,000
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>>158930318
They're usually not that good and you could do better. I believe in you anon.
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>>158930551
I play casually so I tend to just make whatever I think is fun, I just don't get what the problem with netdecking is.
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Give me one reason why I should go back to playing RNGstone again when Shadowverse exists?
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I can't believe this whole 'concede when you see a murloc deck' thing caught on to fuck over people trying to do the quest. You guys really are something.
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>>158930660
w-what
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>>158930660
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>>158930650
If you can tolerate weebshit you should definitely play Shadowverse instead. I however, cannot.
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>>158930650
mobage are shit

weebstone will never be good until it's on PC
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>>158930752
>weebstone will never be good until it's on PC
>he doesn't know
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>>158930752
Weebstone has been released on steam famalam
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>>158930742
>If you can tolerate a game that as better mechanics, class balance, better art, less RNG, more affordablity you should definitely play Shadowverse
Okay then.

>>158930752
LUL
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>>158930752
Anon....
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Time again for shadowshills to beg people to play their game again
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y/n
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>>158931195
I'd prefer it if you all stayed here tbqh, the general has been shit ever since steam release.
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>>158930863
The game forgot it needs to appeal to normies also to make money

It could have 100,000 people playing, but it doesn't matter if they're all autistic weebs who just grind to get everything and don't pay for content
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>>158931283
>gnome form
>dragon tag
>fat stats

The flavor is shit. The effect shouldn't be based on healing either.
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>>158931386
That might work if it was HS and was banking on western appeal. Shadowverse being a japanese game has access to a huge amount of NEETs and waifu fags that make /vg/ look normal in comparison willing to whale for their animated cardfus.
The western audience is not necessary for the game to be successful.
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>>158931386
Normies like anime to you know? If someone isn't willing to enjoy or at least try a better game just becuase it has some tits or lolis then fuck them. I wouldn't what to play with those idiots anyway.
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Is there a reason to play anything other than Swordcraft zoo in SV?
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>>158931386
>The game forgot it needs to appeal to normies
But it... Didn't. The game was completely made for the japanese market, which its dominating. Being in english is just a side thing, but there's bound to be weeaboo whales ready for the milking.
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>>158931708
>not playing OTK rose queen memes
>or exodia the godcraft
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>>158931283
>Come back to /hsg/ after over a year of not playing out of sheer curiosity
>This nigga still trying to make Chromie cards

>>158931708
Slam dunking people with your sick Shadow plays.
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warrior secret when?
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They stealth buffed bananas to (0)mana, time to run monkey in tempo mage?
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>>158933531
Is this real?
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How are your stockpiles for the next adventure now that Blizzard gave up on scamming you with the Heroic Brawl?
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Blizzard makes the most high quality games.
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>>158910112
OH FUCK THE STORIES
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>>158933729
would have had 6k if I didn't try to get call of the wild when it got nerfed by buying 10 packs
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>like arena, but im not good at it
>get my shit kicked in, even while using HearthArena
>packs are old gods anyway

Do i keep playing or buy packs?
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>>158934660
wait for new expansion dummy it's coming in soon

save gold
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Why is Maelstrom portal a thing? This isn't a whine, I mean from a design point of view. Mage's design gimmick seemed to have been for the longest time that they had overall, the strongest spells. Why is it objectively a stronger version of Arcane Explosion?
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>>158935274

people like winning with bad decks
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>>158935274
the
>basic is shit
meme

if only team 5 was competent and buffed/nerfed cards...

if only they saw their own game and said: hey this is not OK
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Every single time
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>>158935561
>people are complaining!
>they don't matter, look at all these casuals who aren't saying anything at all!
>that must mean they love rng clown fiesta the game
Team 5 has a problem
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>>158935274
>expecting intelligent designs from blizzard

Have you played any of their games?
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>>158935784
Tfw just realized ive played every single game blizzard has to offer since the beginning

WutFace
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Before
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>>158936045
After
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>>158934710

Ive got disposable cash my friend. Ill just drop 64 bucks into the card pool and go from there
So what should i do with my current gold. Saving gold makes me feel like im playin for nothing atm!
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guys, I just started and got to lv18 with the basic decks.
Which class gets the most noticable upgrade with 200 dust to spend?
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>>158936209
>most noticeable upgrade
>200 dust

Just drop a few on 50 classic packs m8
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>>158936209
Probably mage with mana wyrms, apprentice and faceless summoner.
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>>158936332
aw sweet, hoped it would be exactly that
>>158936269
yeah. I wish I had money. maybe someday.
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>>158936428
Dont forget that fireland portal is a free card, make sure you have it.
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He made it, guys.
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>>158936484

he's playing against navioot right now on navis stream
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>>158936484
he probably asked some good player to get him legend
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>>158936484
Is noodle streaming?
Hate to admit it because its the noodle but his streams are actually top comfy
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>>158936484
Remember when he'd get legend first week and then play dumb shit? RIP reynad
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>>158936484
I can't believe he got eloise to boost him
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>>158936861
Tempostorm become kappapride
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>>158937060
lol twitch memes 4Head
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>this time next week we'll be shitting on new cards
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Has anyone just stacked all the minions that have divine shield into one deck and used it? I just tried in and have 6 games atm in casual. Was doing it for the quest and its working. I also smacked a face druid >>158896353
(seemingly this deck) won
This is pretty fun, getting pretty much free trades every turn
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>>158937297
who is this slooz luge
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>>158936484

post his dick plz
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>chose Dr Pavel
>he won his round

May the meme man live true and take me to the stars
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>>158937481

divine shield pally is alright
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>>158937539
Sorry meant to reply to >>158937297
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Do I go full reno or not? (keeping only 2x tomb pillage and prep and cold blood for obvious reasons)
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>demon quest
>make a midrange demon deck
>it's boring as fuck
>make a n'zoth deck with some demons
>might as well make it wild with belchers, shredder and boom
>might as well play ranked since i'm still rank 23
>currently rank 12 after one hour and half of winning streaks

also why the fuck priests don't play lightbomb here? playing without it defeats the whole purpose of playing wild priest at all
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>>158936484
Did a "pro" unironically got to legend only on the last day of the month?
Holy shit, he should really head to Tempostorm and learn to become legendary.
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Have you seen this new vlizzard card before?
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>>158939937
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>>158936209
Probably Azure Drakes.
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>>158940042
Isnt that the double version
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I know it's casual, but it was fun.
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>>158940163
it is
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kek

KEK

K E K
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lol

deadfucking game
blizzard would be a dead company if it werent for fanboys keeping it afloat
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>>158940752
Certainly forces you to ponder.
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>>158940752
>this is real
>the description

Why
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>>158941047
Why did Giant Sandworm eat the Crazed Alchemist?
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>>158941123
So it could attack again.
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>>158941053
>Futharkia is a city built upon the layout of an ancient rune shape, and a foundation of slavery. The Broxanians have been enslaved by the Olgoikhorkian Masters to exploit the Broxanian talent for rune-scribing. In exchange, the rune-scribes are compensated with the sweet, golden liquid, Ichor, that the giant worm-like Olgoikhorkians secrete from their glands. The Ichor also happens to be highly addictive and psychoactive. The system has worked for millennia.

>However, the Great Fern Jungle that surrounds Futharkia is dying, being bleached white by some unseen force. Coupled with the fact that the simian-like Fern Lice have been hunted to near extinction to provide for Futharkia’s ever-increasing demand for food, Futharkia’s ecosystem is near collapse. It is amid this setting that Cyesko Limariar, an aging rune-scribe makes one last attempt at greatness to lift himself out of poverty, even if by fraudulent means.
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>>158940752
I thought this was some Halloween event promo
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I'm really short in dust, are there any decks that need 2xDoomsayer or can I safely dust one?

I need 100 dust to craft Sylvie.
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>>158941349

>HS

>Promos

Never, because that would be cool and interesting
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>>158941495
Freeze mage and anyfin paladin.
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>>158941495
any non-aggro deck needs doomsayer for a chance to compete with OP 1-2 drops
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>>158941642
But two of them?

>>158941540
Guess I'll hold onto it then since I want to make a Pally deck down the line.
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>>158941349
>>158941520
why would team 5 do work, when they could do nothing
>>
Wake me up
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>>158942040
behold the rage of the firegasm
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Are quests, Tavern Brawls and Ladder reset going to be 1 hour later or earlier?
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Should Barnes just get fucking nuked?

>rogue pulls gadgetzan off Barnes when he has coin/backstab/strike on hand
>you lose because his 4 drop is now summon 4/5 of stats and draw 3 cards

And just the same he can just pull a 1/1 token that does nothing, the variance is fucking retarded. It's like pulling a Rag, you're going to eat 8 damage somewhere turn 4.
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>>158942271
All cards that have the word "random" in their text box should be nuked. No exceptions.
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>>158942271

Barnes is balanced, deal with it.
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>need to play 1 more class card for a shitty quest
>opponent instantly concedes t1
Did I just get outplayed?
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>>158942271
haha good thing tuskarr is rotating HaHAA
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>>158942486
He might be balanced in the grand scheme but he's still a stupid card.
First of all he's not a build around card, if your deck has high-value minions with effects you might as well just drop him there.

Second in the worst case scenario he's a yeti over 2 bodies, best case scenario he gives you an insane swing without sacrificing anything.
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Anyone start playing with this again thanks to shamanstone?
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>>158942201
Anyone know what's happening I'm in a 3rd world country.
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>>158942735
Daylights saving, but that doesn't happen until Nov 6
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>>158942040
>raven idol into raven idol into raven idol
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>>158942271
Honestly the whole meta needs to be nuked
Shaman plays on value swings that about nothing can compete against
Hunter is about extra premium cards coupled with the dickiest cards to play around
Druid just fucking works because of it's flexible board presence/control
And the rest of the classes just rely on their usual tricks and are hugely reliant on draws
The last months of Hearthstone felt more like Hearthstone-core experience, after hitting 10 and facing the same midrange shaman (tech'd against midrange shaman) 3 times in a row I took the hint and went Arena
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>>158942801
Some people apparently have lost quests yesterday the switch.
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>2mana 3/4 has both a tribe and a minion buff
The worst part is shamans gonna be shit again and will have to resort to do nothing play spirit wolves do nothing concede
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>>158942651
For what purpose? To lose slower than usual?
>>
shaman-shaman-shaman-hunter-hunter-mage-shaman-shaman-hunter-shaman-shaman-warrior-shaman-hunter-mage-hunter-hunter-druid-shaman-shaman-shaman-shaman


why the fuck are we even playing this shit game
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>>158943512
shaman boards can demand AoE without putting value on it, this helps against that
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>They could have revealed a new card after every series, or at the end of each day
>People would watch their shitty tournament just to suckle at the teat of card reveal.

I just want motivation to save gold. Also to see what broken cards shaman get and absolute trash priests get.
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What if she restored 6 HP instead?

Antique healbot was 2.5 mana of stats with a 8HP heal. This would be 4 mana worth of stats with a 6HP heal tacked on. 6 HP for 2 mana doesn't seem too underpriced (flash heal is 5 with flexibility at 1 mana, holy light is 8 heal at 2 mana with flexibility again).

More than anything and specially after Reno rotates out I think the game sorely needs a decent neutral heal for classes like Rogue or Lock.
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>>158944310
I really wish Blizzard would stop being such stubborn faggots and buff some of the basic cards that have never (ever) been used. I don't mind it when cards are bad in an interesting way like alarmobot but simply understatted/overcosted ones are stupid.
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D I S G U S T I N G
https://hsreplay.net/replay/KwYUJzsuka2hTvMdAe9DtU#turn=16a
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>>158944310
Is this the single worst card in the game?
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>>158944559
outskilled
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>>158944559
lel
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>>158944580
Its up there
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end of the season so post em, great meta bliz
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>>158944310

auchenai says hello
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oh for fuck sake DONT REFRESH
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>>158944580
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>>158944915
fuck i refreshed /tv/
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>>158944934
Iksar has said on reddit that this isn't the worst card in the game.
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>>158944898
>10 mana deal 6 damage to your own face
sick ass combo
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>>158945043
>Iksar
Literally who?
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>>158945093
Hearthstone dev.
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>>158945149
Ah okay, then I can safely discard his opinion.
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>>158928748
He is announcing he is gay.
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>>158944310
If she restored 6 HP she would be like a worse more consistent moonglade portal.
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>>158945083

oh shit I thought you can choose

:DDD
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>Lose because I had to waste 8 mana killing a 0 mana 5/5 with taunt
I am about to quit this piece of shit game, this bullshit is just not okay.
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i'm going in

see you on the other side
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>>158945664
Post dick
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>>158945527
Even then 10 mana 2 cards deal 6 damage and put 2 minions on board is hardly broken.
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>>158945664
>wild
>playing overpowered nzoth hunter
>claiming to either get to rank 5 or higher

just fucking kill yourself you casual; either play standard or uninstall
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>>158945664
>>158945763
this please
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>>158945943

No but if the auchenai is already on board it's pretty good, it's about versatility and not really comboing just like that 4-5 priest card, it would be one extra tool for priest but yes it wouldn't be broken or anything
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>>158946154
Naxx and GvG deathrattles + N'zoth + some spells

There, this applies to almost all wild decks
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Friendly reminder that this card exists, since it seems you all forgot.
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Post some Memes.
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Fuck this quest.
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>>158946560
Play Warlock easiest 100g of your life.
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>>158946396
What about it dumb faggot?
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>>158946212
It'd be a pretty good swing but soulwaifu rarely survives one turn much less two turns if you played her on turn 4.
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Thought about adding Drake But I don't know what to cut
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>have warrior quest
>missing most things to make a working warrior deck
>have only one shield slam, one blood ichor, don't have brawl, one ghoul...
>decide to make a Reno deck since it takes one copy of everything anyways
>finish quest in 6 games
>only loss is against a dragon priest that curved out perfectly while the first turn I could play anything was turn 5

How is this deck even working? Are people really this bad in casual?
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>>158946396
it's a priest card
priest doesn't really struggle with healing their face
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>>158946993
earthen ring, frost nova, seer and curator are all easy cuts
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>>158946993
Also I just learned you can trigger Twin Emperor Vek'lor's battlecry even if you don't have C'thun. I got Twillight Elder from Jeweled Scarab and he survived 4 turns behind taunts. Got Emperor from Princ Malchazar. After 4 turns where C'Thun would have been 10/10, I could trigger the battlecry.

This probably also works with other battlecries that depend on C'Thuns health/attack.
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>>158946993
Cabalist tome could also be good.
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>>158947182
Meant to quote >>158947034


>>158946396
I tried using it with Auchenai, not as good as sounded. While the 5 damage battlecry sounds nice, it rarely happens and most of the time it's a heal 5 for face with subpar stats.
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>>158947182
(wherever it is)
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>>158947301
Well, I thought "wherever it is" if he's played and not just for existing in the lore.
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>>158947182
Cthunless cthun decks were a thing for evolve shaman, pretty fun to get double 8 drops.
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>>158947405
At that point why not just toss in C'Thun?
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>>158946027
>play awful mode or uninstall game
But why?
Why would you play cancer mode when you can have fun instead?
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Should I toss in Justicar somewhere into this pile of dragons and healing?
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>>158947514
I assume the reason you're using Guardian of Kings and not Bizzaro Rag is because you don't have him.
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>>158881110
This shit makes my day. Why the hell would you be retarded enough to vent your anger on your opponent after losing a casual match?
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Scamaz announcement
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C'thun decks are pretty fun to play, I just wish I didn't have to play Cucktrol Warrior if I want to play one of them on ladder.
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>>158947635
Yes. Same with those 1/3's that discover dragons.
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>>158947680
the jew was right about him geez
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We've been scamazed.
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Is this deck any good? I'm ashamed to show my score...
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Would Priest be good if they just reprinted Lightbomb?
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>>158947907
what was it?
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>>158948098
Decent, but lacks card draw/discover/card generation effects. Loot hoarders are usually a bad card draw engine imo, early game they just get pinged down, late-game they don't quite matter for topdeck wars, since it's a delayed draw, and 2/1 on turn 10 sucks.
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>>158948285
>3 month long tournament with teams, best of 11 matches, and drama!
>but you goys are going to fund it
>follow this link to donate
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>>158948098
easy seven wins
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>>158948098
>decent curve
>good card quality
Yes, it's good, but rather average for mage since no firelands and only one Flamestrike.
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>>158948098

>no portal
>only 1 flamestrike
>bunch of 1 health minions

lmao how about you use heartharena next time scrub? 5 wins tops
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>>158948435
Just like Dota 2!
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>>158948475
>>158948463
>>158948450
>>158948340

You're all terrible at arena tbqh
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>>158948654
>merely pretending
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>>158948654
wait I recognized that deck. Did you just beat p4wnyhof on your 11th game?
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>>158947676
how dare you use a fucking deck
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>>158944310
Another thing to consider is that when you would run a healing card it means you need healing (obviously). So not only do you look for a reasonable value card, you also want it to heal you for a certain amount rather than have an acceptable heal to stat distribution, and you want to have the mana weighted on the heal probably more than it is on the stats.

Healbot ws great because it fit perfectly, 5 mana 3/3 8 health was a good balance and it came out at the right time curve wise, it was scaled just right. You could also do a smaller or bigger healbot (as in with each 1 mana reduction or addition you adjust the stats and heal to the same way as the original) but the original sits pretty much just right; you don't want to pay too much for extra stats and like 2 points of healing as that comes out too late, and does not reimburse you for that, nor do you want to play less and get less because then it doesn't do enough.

>>158944580
That prestige goes to Melchezzar
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Do I dust him, or would he be usable as a finisher in a slower control deck?
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>>158948654

Thx blizzard for the shittiest 12 win rewards ever... Fuck this game.
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>>158948654
I said it was easy seven wins I didn't say you couldn't go twelve, you monkey.
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>>158948860
Gruul has never seen use and never will.
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>>158948654
I stick by my statement, it lacked card draw. I don't know how you won the topdeck wars, but congrats anyways.
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>>158948757

I don't know, my last 2 games were against shamans if that helps so it's possible.
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>>158948872
kek fucking loser
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>>158948813
I was just talking from the point of view that Blizzard might have thought the original Healbot was too strong. I think 1 more mana for slightly more heal but a decently sized body could sit right with Blizz.

Maybe it would be better if she was a 4/3 with a 6 HP heal for 5 mana, though.
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>>158948860
All the viable control decks have much better finishers.

See: Grom, Tony, any of the 75 legendaries Pally runs,
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>mfw ivory knight pulling out anyfin and healing for 10
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>>158948654
>an average mage draft can go 12-1 in arena
at last I truly see
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>>158944310
I present you
the grand and original
great classic buff

for all your (what do I want this card for, again?) needs

Some buffs are so obvious and logical you won't even notice they are there!
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>>158949939
Nightblade is actually significantly better at 4 mana. It's like a Kor'kron Elite with 1 more health but 1 less damage and the ability to deal damage past taunts.
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part 2
when the fuck will team 5 do something about their game? who knows...

when will they realize people are leaving to go to shadowverse because this RNG shitfiesta
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>playing against some sort of C'thun Renolock hybrid
>we're nearing endgame, I'm at 9 health with an 8/8 taunt, a 3/3, a 2/2 and a 1/1 (Nefarian gave me Kara Kazham) on board
>he just has an Emperor Tharassian on his side, while at 11 health
>having high hopes I'll recover and win
>plays a topdecked C'thun (it was at 10 mana rather than an Emperor'd 9)
>each shot has a fucking 20% chance of hitting the 8/8 taunt
>7 shots hit it
>he uses a free mortal coil on the remaining 1 hp, double power overwhelmings the Emp
>ded
Fucking ass, I'm beyond salty right now
he won a 20% chance roll 7 out of 9 times
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>>158950146
you are implying face decks would run it?
from my perspective is kinda thrash still but meh
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>>158949939
>>158950341
You kind of went full retard in part 2 but I like the idea.
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>>158950420
Face decks and d warrior which cares about face damage run Kor'kron Elite, and a 4 mana nightblade is pretty much a kor'kron elite. So yes, they probably would run it.
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>>158949939

>4 mana 6/5 Taunt

Ri-ight...
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>>158950392
>Your deck will betray (You).
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>>158948947
>>158949640
Damn. Well, at least with Gruul, I finally have enough dust to craft a legendary. Is Malygos good if I don't have any other usable legendaries/Blackrock Mountain? Or am I going to need a few more things before I can pull of a Maly deck?
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>>158950638
>Can't Attack
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>>158950556
what parts do you like?

what was the full retard part? (apart from illidan)
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>Forsen roleplaying as Reckful right now
Holy kek, my sides
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>>158950392
Did you have a way to deal with C'Thun? Because it sounds like he could have just as easily killed your taunter with Tharassian while C'Thun's battlecry/Mortal Coil wiped the rest of your board and left you pretty far from dealing 11 damage to him. He got a decent roll with C'Thun, but there were a bunch of different possibilities there if he had the hand you described
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>>158949939
You fool.

You removed the nerf from Dalaran Mage, now spell druid will dominate the ladder.
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>>158950667
Malygos decks usually want Emperor for the big combos.
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>>158951181
I don't think that is gonna do much against shaman my familio
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>>158950667
Your first 2 legendaries should usually be Raggy and Sylv.

Maly is only used in Rogue and Druid decks, Rag and Sylv can be used everywhere. Unless it's an extremely fast paced deck, Rag is a good fit.
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>amaz hypes announcement for a whole week
>"p-please give my $1,600,000 for my shitty tournament"
What a joke.
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>>158950886
>overbuffed bad cards
>changed fine cards
>made intentional meme legendarys less memey
I liked that you made rat-anus-tier basics somewhat useful in the first one though.
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>>158951194
I was afraid of that. I'm not spending $25 for a set that rotates out in 2 months and only has a couple of cards I want. At least LoE had a bunch of useful rares and commons too.
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>>158951294
>amaz
not surprised
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>>158949939

Your conception of what you think is wrong with most of these cards completely misses the point.

Warsong commander for example is pointless not because of it's cost; its it's effect that is pointless.

Trying to give it some parity with Direwolf Alpha is pointless - despite that being the oft cited comparison for why Warsong Commander is rubbish - because you just wouldnt be running Direwolf Alpha in that sort of deck in the first place.

Direwolf Alpha trades your weenies upward; something you wouldnt do with charge minions played from hand for their full cost because the value you get out of it will be crap any way you cut it.
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>>158951294
Que?
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>>158951294
What did you expect from The AMAZing conamn
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>>158951554
Amaz just made a big announcement on Twitch about this >>158948435
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>>158951551
Warsong commander should just have been minions under 3 attack have charge.

The problem was always the stupid frothing.
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>>158951294
>Amaz asking for money

Shocking
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>>158951294
Is there full disclosure on what the money will be spent on? If so that's not too bad
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Balanced?

The statline is pushed because the whole idea of playing a fatigue Hunter is such a joke.
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>>158952035
despite what fel reaver and tracking fags will say this is completely overpowered
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>>158952035
>nig this off a hunter as mill rogue
Nice.
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>>158951294

Is he really asking for 1,6 fucking million to set up a private HS tourney?

Nigga got balls, I have to admit that.
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>>158951881
It's $200k US, amaz used chink money.

100k prize pool, and there's "backer rewards"
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>>158952035
the grammar on that card is terrible
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>>158951849

That... wasnt the issue..

It was Grim Patron. Which honestly wasnt really that big a deal. No worse than savage roar/death by angry tree noises was a the time.
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>>158952138
when was the last time you won a game in which you heropowered 10 times?
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>>158951460
Emperor is in the first wing. But yeah, its too late to buy BRM wings/full adventure.
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>>158952317
when my hero power discards all my opponents proactive plays, all the time
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>>158952289
The problem was absolutely Berserker you dumb nigger. Patron was fine. The problem was warsong + frothing + whirlwind whirlwind dealing absurd burst.
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>>158952317
>in which you heropowered 10 times?
We're excluding warrior from this?
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>>158952317
*tanks up*
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Getting seriously spooked right now
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>>158952287

Okay, now it's templated like Fel Reaver.
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>>158952587
I still haven't refreshed this page yet.
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>>158952674
0/10 for not even attempting an appropriate image.
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Dumb anime poster.
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>>158952742
I like animu bewbs in my porn, not in my games.
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>>158952587
Even 4chan has special Halloween content but not fucking Hearthstone.
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I hope you're all donating to help fund the new ATLC2!!
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Nothing happening in shitstone for Halloween?
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>>158952289
No the problem was getting bursted for 50 damage out of nowhere with a Frothing combo.

Frothing was the finisher, if you remove Frothing from the equation the most you can really do is 18 damage from an empty board.

You still have the fun gameplay of Patron, you still spawn boards out of nowhere you just don't have a 24/3 minion to finish the enemy.
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>>158952890
Karazan still exists
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>>158952828

Faggot.
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>>158952850
>yfw he pulls an inafune and has shady Chinese investors bail him out
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>>158952890
Halloween doesn't sell packs
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>>158952890
Remember when we got shitty cardback from brawl on Christmas instead of packs?
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>>158952850
>whoops guys it looks like we were only 99% of the way there and the tournament is cancelled
>Don't worry since you guys were so close i'll do a bonus stream next week where you can subscribe and donate to my twitch channel
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>>158952913
>fun gameplay of Patron
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This one's my favourite
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>>158950341

>Headcrack
>~12 damage a turn from turn 8 onwards.
>~15 damage a turn at turn 10.
>with virtually no counterplay

>>158952531

Only new players and bads think/thought OTKs were the problem/are a problem in Hearthstone.

Grim Patron is a decent deck even without Warsong. Warsong just made Grim Patron decktypes far too strong. Frothing Berserker is an auto-include in Grim decks for obvious reasons, but seldom would any competent player ever risk holding out for a possible OTK. Same with thinking your Rockbiter is there to facilitate your Doomhammer or Alakir. Only bads do these sort new player things and end up dying on turn 7 with 8 cards in their hand or something.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1058-ben-brode-discusses-the-warsong-commander-nerf

http://www.pcgamer.com/warsong-commander-nerf-goes-live-hearthstone-pros-react/

>Literally none of the "pros" react by talking about Berserker except the odd casual; everyone talks about Grim.
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>>158953180
>he never had the pleasure to play patron
I pity you. Playing shit on curve is surely more fun.
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>>158953180

Patron was fun as fuck. Patron was the only deck HS has ever had that required some non-zero amount of thought to play.
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>>158952890
>not giving out spooky Halloween themed alternate versions of a few basic cards
What did Blizzard mean by this?
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>>158952913
This. Besides Frothing synergy with Warsong there was no unfairness in patron combo. I usually dislike combo decks in HS but patrons were fine.
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>>158953243
I don't think you know how headcrack works.
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>>158953180
Patron is fun if solely because grim patron's voicelines are among the best in the game.

EVERYONE, GET IN HERE
PILE ON
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>>158953243
>>Headcrack
>>~12 damage a turn from turn 8 onwards.
>>~15 damage a turn at turn 10.
>>with virtually no counterplay

Hunter Hero power:
18 damage a turn at turn 10
DOESN'T EVEN NEED CARDS
WITH VIRTUALLY NO COUNTERPLAY!!!!!1!!!!!1!!11

on the serious note, rogue doesn't even need consistent face damage
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>>158952913

See:

>>158953243

I can see why you could be salty by an OTK happening to you, but that really wasnt the reason why the nerf had to happen.

Otherwise Freeze Mage would have been nerfed long ago.

Just read the article.

>>158953498

>0 mana cards in Rogue
>a new concept to anon
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>>158953506
I miss all the silly gif and videos
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>>158953506
This. Patron would feel much worse if it wernt for that VA
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>>158953180
The only negative part of Patron Warrior was frothings ability to cause some outrageous OTK.

If brode and his crew of half-wits simply made Warsongs charge buff an aura effect that when you go over 3 attack you lose charge, we'd have 1 more viable Warrior deck. Now all we're left with is a card that's worse than a neutral, so bad it should just be deleted from the game.
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>>158953736
>Otherwise Freeze Mage would have been nerfed long ago.
It was nerfed long ago, my combo shitter
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>>158953736

Dude, read the fucking card. You can't cast the same copy of Headcrack multiple times per turn. It only returns to your hand NEXT turn.
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>>158953506
>PYLON
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>>158953739
We still have such gems as:
>http://everyonegetinhere.com/
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Headcrack was fine at 2 mana 2 damage
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>>158953736
You're either retarded or baiting. Have you ever played Headcrack?
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>OTK from hand wasn't what made patron good
spooky
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>>158923539
>>158923801
Benny Brode actually explain this once.

Basically, they intentionally make the basic cards bad in order to 'incentivize' players to dish out real money for packs.

That's why they keep releasing powercreeped version of basic cards in Adventures/Expansions (Which also helps them create less cards and more filler cards which we all hate)
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Why doesn't this see more play? I unpacked her a while ago but never bothered until recently. Not even a dragon deck, I just threw her into my tempo rogue for the hell of it.

Gives an instant board and baits aoe.
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>>158954335
9 mana is an awful cost

that being said she's alright in token druid
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>>158954024
>>158954231
Is there some sort of interview going around that I'm not aware of?
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>>158954335
Throw it in evolve shaman for those doomsayer memes if you want to have fun.
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>>158954335
too slow
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>>158954335
Slow, doesn't affect the board, 9 mana
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>>158954335
It should be good against warrior once ghoul rotates out
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>>158954095
>>158953889

>It only returns to your hand NEXT turn.

You are right anon, my mistake. Headcrack is just a card I ignore altogether.

It doesnt invalidate my point on Grim however.

>>158953886

You miss the point. They can still OTK. Doing 30/50/9999 damage in a single turn isnt by any means OP or requiring a nerf by itself. You have to consider the combination of cards you actually need to pull it off.

There is a cost to holding cards in your hand as opposed to playing it that only Mages can really deal with.

For Grim, the "OTK" combo was literally no worse than angry tree noises which could already almost OTK for less specificity.
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>>158954303
It would be fine if they just printed basics with niche abilities added. +1 health reprints that are still unplayable are retarded.
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>>158954639
so what do you now think of
>>158950341
?
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Whats it gonna be
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>>158954485
>8% chance of doomsayer
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>>158954972
Hogger2
>>
>there was nothing wrong with Patron OTK!
>it wasn't any worse than this other combo that got nerfed!

How dumb? If you don't want to play cards then don't play the game.
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>>158954303
>Basically, they intentionally make the basic cards bad in order to 'incentivize' players to dish out real money for packs.

Which is a fucking horrible thing to do, and it's astounding that they have the gall to admit it. Even WotC, the King Jews who invented the CCG scam, don't say they make cards bad just to force people to buy more cards. Instead they mumble some nonsense about "limited format balance".

If Hearthstone was well designed, Basic cards would be the strongest of all, specifically so that new players who have nothing but Basic cards actually have a fair fucking shot at winning.
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>>158954303
It gives incentive to play the game. It's not about money, it's about getting people hooked.

Having a progressive game structure is what keeps new players interested. Unpacking new and powerful cards is fun.
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>>158950341
>headcrack
Funny that you put that in.
During one of Brode's Arena streams, I asked "was there ever a card that went through development hell in Hearthstone?", and his answer was Headcrack. They wanted to use that particular effect but for the longest time it was just too powerful, so they made it distinctly weaker while keeping the unique effect.
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>>158955213
Playing a good game is even more fun
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>>158950341
>leaving to go to shadowverse because this RNG shitfiesta

I'm actually going towards Duelyst. Shadowverse seems to weeb for my tastes, it's practically /a/ in terms of waifu shitposting

Any other Duelyst bros up in here?
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>>158954602
Warrior is like the class that cares the least about you making a board, what the fuck.
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Holy fuck can we remove this card yet?
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>>158955117
Newfags need something to work towards and if they don't like it then by all means they may fuck off
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>>158954972
Chogall
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>>158954639
So that's why it was by far the most dominant deck at the time?

Let's not be ridiculous here, Grim had pretty much ways to deal with everything. Warrior can pull off Freeze mage hijinks because 1. Warrior has retarded amounts of removal and 2. Grim Patron didn't forgo a board like Freeze Mage did.

Patron's problem was very much the Frothing OHKoing you from nowhere. There was no way to survive it except being Freeze Mage and Freeze Mage isn't good against Warrior for obvious reasons.
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>>158955117
>fair shot at winning

A game that is built around RNG is anything but fair.
I do agree with you, but since this game is aimed at casual play you won't really see any hard balancing or improvement until Blizz starts losing money, like they tried to do with WoW.

The rest of us just need to not take this game so seriously, since the creators don't either. If SV is going to overtake this game (it won't) then so be it.
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>>158955213
>It's not about money

That's not funny even as a joke. To blizzard, EVERYTHING is about money. They don't give a single shit about anything but squeezing more shekels out of people. They don't care about their games, and they don't care about players, if they could kill you and steal your wallet they would.
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>>158955437
The idea is solid. 25%+ chance of having your heropower activate it complicates things, and shaman with its infinite board flooding potential really makes the weapon busted.
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>>158954963

Headcrack?

Still unusable in any competitive way I can think of.

There is simply no "next turn". Either because your Maly chain results in the game being decided (either for you or your opponent) or your Gadgetzan train will leave no Gadgetzan on the board next turn. Eitherway, you're out of fluid resources or you would have just kept either engine running in the previous turn.

You cannot expect either Maly or Gadgetzan to last more than a single turn.

In all other cases, expending card/mana resources to upkeep it / do chip damage will assuredly lose you the game.
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>>158955421
Buy it on ebay for 2-3 euros
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>>158955006
>>158955638
Closed on me because lolmobileapp

What do i do with this
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>>158956000
Some control decks run Soggy, I would hang onto him.
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>>158955117
>Which is a fucking horrible thing to do, and it's astounding that they have the gall to admit it. Even WotC, the King Jews who invented the CCG scam, don't say they make cards bad just to force people to buy more cards. Instead they mumble some nonsense about "limited format balance".
They don't say it, but everyone knows they do it. Hell, At least Blizard includes some decent cards in the classic/basic packs. Staples like Arcane Knowledge and Swipe are given to players free of charge, unlike WoC.
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>>158950341

>Blessed Champion

Name a worse card in the game.

>You can't
>You now realise that it's just windfury and shaman has the same card for 2 mana.
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>>158956000
He's so close to being a playable card. I wish I could justify running him.
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>>158955819
>Still unusable in any competitive way I can think of.
well the buff it got in the image is pretty solid: -1 mana cost and +1 damage and it still would be unusable?

How bad is that card?
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>>158956000
he's pretty alright
keep him

if the game ever slows down he's going to be a great addition to any deck
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Do you guys think they'll ever rotate Naxx back in but rebalanced for that year?
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>>158956268
No
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>>158956268

Naxx/GvG was too slow with blecher/healbot/deathlord etc. We can't have that in kiddies first card game.
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>>158956174
yeah i agree even at 4 mana it's still terrible

but it can bring some sweet combos with blessing of might

it should be 3 mana
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>>158956268
The balancing part seems very doubtful.
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>>158956268
I hope not. Standard was meant to not only balance the game, but also keep it fresh and help new players get into it. Even if cards are balanced, it's good for the meta if they rotate out after a couple of years. Keeps things from going stale. The only other alternative is to do what Yugioh does, and completely reorganize your game every few years by introducing XYZ/Pendulums/whatever, which also need to be completely overpowered compared to the last batch of new cards to keep people using them.
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>>158955437
We need to remove 2 mana 5/5 taunt as well
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>>158956536

2 mana? It's never more than 0
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>>158899636
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>>158956426
>>158956387
They cant just modify the cards enough to add them in?
I imagine that re-selling the adventure would require almost zero work on their part and would make them money down the road. It just makes sense for them to do it.
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>>158956490
Wow, somehow standard meta turned out to be unbalanced and stale as tuck
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>>158956268
they will just remake and resell versions of old cards

if blizzard is tracking people collections, they might actually just reintroduce them, once a majority of players no longer have them in their collection
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>>158949939
>>158950341
So with what cards do you guys agree?
What cards did I break?
What cards are still so thrash they won't be played ever?
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>>158953258
I agree, hence its poor performance on ladder cuz /hsg/ shitters tried to play it
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>>158899636
Thats what you all get for not trusting America
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>>158899636
i thought we were going to get to pick a new 'champion' today

wtf blizzard
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>>158956736
I can see this happening easily.

Even if they can't track it for some reason, its too good of an opportunity to make easy money if they just can't come up with new content.
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>>158899636
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>>158957623
Honestly, I would rather have them reprint some fun stuff to standard, like quartermaster, than another 3/2 with taunt.
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>>158957623
Why wouldn't they be able to come up with new content?
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>Ahhgh, I must choose!
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>>158958209
>I choose death!

Is there a better sound to hear in this game? Other than Wow...
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>>158957110
I did too but blizz wants their TGT packs for themselves, see >>158881298
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>>158955657

Again, no. In practice it is not as you imagine. This has been discussed to death so long ago, just Google it. OTKs were a not unrealistic possibility, but the reason for the heavily skewed win/loss stats on Grim Warrior is indeed a matter of attrition when you really analyse the turn sequencing.

Unless you are a class or deck with a single card clean solution, you more often expend far too many resources just finding an answer to 3-4 Grims on board. Moreover, having to play around the potential Grim Charge leaves you with compromises in the early/mid game that puts you on an uphill task to begin with. You basically deny all tokens and for some decks, that is too much of a compromise that Grim would have such dominant odds against certain types while not being too bad against most others.

Just watch how the previous world champion played Grim at a time AFTER the nerf. OTK isnt a true problem, it never was for any deck. Its just Grim's win rate. Frothing made games quicker most times, but it wasn't necessary and never relied on in Grim strategy except by bads. The true strength of Grim and their statistical win rate is attrition, always was and misunderstood. Its why Grim decks may seem unplayable to new players and bads right now, but yet it still decent in the hands of other players.

>>158956236

Like Warsong Commander, its effect just doesnt fit the decks that it would be relevant to in the first place.

Tempo Rog wouldnt have a card like this for obvious reasons.

Maly/Questing Rog just cant make use of it as stated because there is often no "next turn" to use it again for these decks.

And for Arena it would be nearly absolutely useless.

In general, exhausting resources to chip face is just bad strategy. Even with no combo it is not going to work in an optimized deck.
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>>158958346
>You win this one, friend
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To add: Its called Grim and not Frothing OTK for a reason, even if thats all it appears to be for some players.
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>tfw outcontrolled by a druid with y'shaarj and meme incarnate
JUST
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>>158957970
Just speculation. Knowing that they have all of Warcraft to build content off of is actually wonderful for the longetivity of the game.
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R8
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>>158959825
benis in anus :DDD
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>>158959885
fugg I didn't sign up for benis :DDDD
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>>158959825
As in resets the mana count?

Could be interesting.
One of these days I'm going to make an Ultraxion OC, and everyone will love it.
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>>158959825
>doesnt say "Dragon" at the bottom
0/10
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>>158959393
why do Magnishitters ALWAYS play Control? It never fucking fails, every fucking time. It's ALWAYS Control Warrior with a bunch of big ass dragons and shit.
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Who wants free gold on NA?
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>>158959949
Looks like it the mana crystals are set to just 1

>>158959825
So unless you have minions on the board you can't remove this besides Shield slam
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>>158960053
problem poorfag?
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>>158960054
post tag
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>>158960054
DryBread#2141
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>>158960140
>>158959949
Is the wording better now?
>>158960050
fuggg :DDD
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>>158960053
Because control's the only viable warrior deck archetype?
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>>158960054
ChineseMP#1976
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>>158960053
I once played against a Magni that used the Medivh cardback and played a full golden control deck.
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>>158960325
>I haven't played game since naxx
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>>158960323
Actually yes

Why Aeonus? Why warrior? Just curious btw
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>>158960323
The effect should be a battlecry and it should say destroy the creator of this card. I would combo it with Brann.
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>>158960325
Pirate
Tempo
Dragon
Control
Patron

all playable and competitive. Control just happens to be the easiest to play.

>>158960214
Timmy plz go it's dinnertime your mother is calling for you
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>>158960053
Buy my beard
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>>158960480
Because I'm clumsy and forgot to remove the warrior thing.
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>>158960521
Ouch
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>>158958346
>I give up.
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>>158960727
hi Anduin
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>>158960521
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>tfw I really want to play paladin since I have a golden ragnaros lightlord but I don't have tirion
Should I craft him? I have ~9k dust but the new set is coming up...
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>>158960841
Tirion is the best class legendary in the game.
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>>158960841
yes, since Tirion is the best class legendary and will never rotate out.
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>>158960841
>tfw no Lightlord
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>>158960841
Wait until Entomb rotates out.
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>>158960841
dies to hex
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>>158961056
sadly, it does not
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>>158961056
but hex doesnt kill anything
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>>158960841
Should have put your faith in the light along time ago. Craft a Golden.
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>>158961328

>>158961328

>>158961328

>>158961328
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>>158960841
>have Tirion
>no Lightlord and don't want to craft him 'cause all it'll ever be is a meme card
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>>158956718
There are at least half a dozen different meta decks I can think of even in higher tiers of play, which is pretty decent for such a simple TCG.
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>>158945206
I fucking had a dream he and Frodan got together and adopted a child.

Amaz was getting all pissy because the kid saw him as the mother/woman in the relationship and it just seemed so eerie.
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