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Doughboys Edition

last thread >>158744775

Out for everyone now.

>Weapon and stats:
http://symthic.com/bf1-stats
Symthic's already started their metacrafting autism

>Emblem stealing website for uncreative babbies: http://emblemsbf.com/

FAQ:
Q: Is BF4 dead?
A: Yes, BF1 now.

Q: Where are the BF1 Platoons?
A: The platoon feature (tm) isn't in yet for bf1, we'll post the info when its out.

Q: Where are the BF4 Platoons?
A: >still playing that shit LMAO

Q: Which VOIP Do I join?
A: Yuropoors will be more likely to find people on the Discord. Mumble seems to attract NA players. Use whichever you like.

DICE is looking to add quitting between matches, loadout editing in the main menus and other features that should have been in at launch, soon®

Mumble server (VOIP and Text)
wevidyanow.com
port: 64738

Mumble download (Snapshot version is more stable and has more features)
https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Discord
https://discord.gg/TK8snEj

PASTEBIN FOR RETARDS
http://pastebin.com/MAA75tCc
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servers still kill?
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first for can't fucking play
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Who /edelweiss/ here
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Why do Australians dislike New Zealanders so much?
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>servers are up
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>>158818153
For me origin it's kill it says "online login is currently unavailable"
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>>158818210
>tfw only /galicia/
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What's the best set up for medic?
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>>158818509
post the inspect of it
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>>158818550
Whatever it is it better include a god damn needle.
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>>158818550

>Selbnigga marksman
>Auto revolver
>Syringe
>medical pouch
>sub pouch for rifle grenade if youre a faggot
>your choice of nade
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>>158818210
>2 legendaries
>both for that shite shotgun
Immediately discarded
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>tfw I bought BF1 and finished installing it 2 hours ago
why
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>>158818550

I literally don't even use the primary. I use best medic pistol, Medic bags and syringe.
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>>158818778

>Model 10A
>shit

end urself
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I hope the Russian DLC is a bunch of hungarians shooting peasants in the back of the head
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>still playing this shit

LMAO
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>>158818550
What
>>158818707 said
Only change the marksman for the optical
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>>158818942
why you have to be such a bitch?
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>>158818907
No
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>>158818942
>playing

LMAO
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>>158818153
>>158818321
Me too. Playing on Xbone. What kind of faggot shit is this, do they want me to go outside
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>>158819168
>

LMAO
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Is it confirmed to be that fifa faggot or is that just some sperg blowing smoke?
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>>158819219

LMAO
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HAHA FUCK THE SERVERS IM GOING TO BE A NORMIE AND GO TO A PARTY HAHA
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>>158819270
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UNIFORM POWER RANKINGS
1. OTTOMANS
2.AUSTRIA-HUNGARY
3.GERMANY
4.ITALY
5.USA
...
......
99.BRITISH
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>>15881934
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Are the servers ever going to be working again?
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I just want to have a comfy night of gassing infantry. Is that too much to ask for tonight?
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>>1588194
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>>158819427
No
>>158819528
Yes
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>>158819261

Probably, he could barely type a sentence, much less DDOS a publically traded company
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aaaaaaaaaaand they're down
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>>158818210
Got the Edelweiss, The Mexican, and the Revision One Pistol. Wish I got the Doughboy, but whatever.
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I just want muh Martini.
How to scout 10 fstr?
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>could have downloaded Skyrim """Remastered""" but decide to just play Battlefield 1 instead
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>>158820003
Boats.
Unrelated, playing campaign shit for skins while servers are down. Do I need to do the codex challenges, too? Or am I good just getting all the field manuals?
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why not just ban all yuros? Im so sick of these dumb faggots ruining things for everyone
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SERVERS ARE DOWN
AGAIN
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>158818562
Can't post it because I'm not on my desktop right now but it's pretty much the same thing except without the wrapping on the stock.
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best pistol thats not the doughboy m1911 Im rich edition pistol?
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>>158820338

If you don't use a revolver then you're a ninny

revolvers>other guns
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>>158820338
I primarily use the FN 1903
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How is it possible for people to take servers down and get away with it? Couldn't they just find where the attack is coming from and block that area or something? I don't understand
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>>158820338
P08. I don't know why but I'm just able to mow motherfuckers down with it.
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Can't connect to Origin. Are you guys launching the game and trying to connect from in game or what?

Can I still play singleplayer?
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>>158820593

some fags ddosing origin apparently cause "MUH FIFA 1000 DOLLARS REEEE"
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>>158820593
I can launch the game and play single player but it wont let me go online.
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>>158820338
Howdah pistol.
I like to shout 'howdah fuck are ya!' when killing people with it.
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>>158820697

Wouldn't they have his payment information and be able to prosecute? He basically admitted to shutting down their servers
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>>158820754
>I like to shout 'howdah fuck are ya!' when killing people with it.
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>>158820410
>Only Webleys in the game are a Fosbery and a Bulldog
>No MkVI
>Fosbery is locked to a class I never use
This is unacceptable
Also I really want the Borchardt, but it'll take fucking forever to get it, never even play that class...
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>>158820071
Until shitters in planes come kill you, or enemies go over to you. You gotta have a good lobby to do it
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Do lots of autistic people play battlefield games?

I keep seeing serves with oddly specific rules about no making fun of autism.
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>>158820410
The French weapons better fucking include an Mle 1892
And later a 1895 hand nugget for the Russians
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>>158820562
>use hacked IP
>they block that IP
>it turns out to by your IP they were using and you're banned from playing forever
>they still continue it
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>>158821072
I think that's just the annoying PC servers reacting to the fact that people call each other autistic a lot
Reminds me of the servers that'd get pissy and kick you for swearing in a game like BF3 where characters swear non-stop
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>Online login is currently unavailable

just kill me now famalam
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who /roleplay/ in multiplayer here ??

When playing medic I exclusively use the Automatic 8 Factory/Remington Model 8 and the Luger because both were very successful firearms on the civilian market prior to WWI (Model 8 moreso in the US than Europe as FN only made around 5000 Model 8s) and pretend to be a normal old civilian fighting with what I have in my home country
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WHAT THE FCUK MAN I JUST WANT TO PLAY
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>>158821370
I would
IF THE FUCKING GAME WOULD LET ME PLAY REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158821378
>>158821474

this is the little faggot who is ddosing. his tweets are now protected too. all cause he lost 1k on fifa like a little bitch
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>>158821370
I generally do this
90% of the time I just play as a rifleman with an infantry bolt-action and a sidearm that matches the team I'm on as closely as possible (or is something that an individual could feasibly have bought personally). Problem is that there is no US infantry rifle, just the 1903 snipers and the one with the Pederson device.
I've hardly played medic much, I only really use the Winchester when I do though for the reason that it's something that was actually produced and used. Will get the Model 8 next for the same reason
>>158821518
Honestly I don't buy this illiterate third-world retard doing this. He probably is just butthurt and figures he can try to take credit.
>Look at me! I matter! I totally did something guise!
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>>158821518
>using 100k bots shuts down the servers
>when there are more than 700k people on everyday on all consoles together
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>Servers still down
I just did the campaign where you're the British guy in the tank and for the parts where I'm not in the tank I used nothing but the C96 you start with, melee attacks, and the field guns only to take out enemy armor

It took like three hours and the SERVERS ARE STILL DOWN WHAT THE FUCK EA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158821631
>90% of the time I just play as a rifleman with an infantry bolt-action and a sidearm that matches the team I'm on as closely as possible (or is something that an individual could feasibly have bought personally).
I do this nearly every game, the only time I don't do it is when I get mad and go full tryhard mode to win
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Considering buying BF1 or Titanfall.


I haven't played an BF game since BC2. I heard for BF3 they swapped to a shitty webbased server browser. Is that still a thing?

Any major flaws or worries?

I probably won't buy any DLC, will this ruin my experience once the first DLC is out?
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>doing codex and manuals in campaign
>all these "don't get seen lol" requirements for the codexes

Only The Runner and Mud And Blood left for me
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>>158821081
>including any more pistols
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>>158820754

Nothing like taking an impractical four barrel pistol to town for some fun. Howdah love
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>>158821915
>Any major flaws or worries?
Aside from the DDOS by some cyka blyat, nah BF1 is fucking magical
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ITS UP
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>>158821915
Its great. And so is Titanfall 2. Do you want a sci fi action shooter or a ww1 action shooter? Mind you TF2 is faster. Thats what i would base it on
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Still no ETA from EA?
The fuck is a $4.4 BILLION/yr in revenue company doing when it can't prod the one useless HR cunt to tweet out an ETA and reason?
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>>158822138

>its not a troll
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>>158822264
>my rank reset
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>Ask my baby if he would like to play Battlefield 1
>He says yes
>Log on to play Battlefield 1
>Have a great time
>Wife who is also 2004 Lindsay Lohan comes in and puts baby to sleep
>She sucks my dick and plays the meanest keyboard solo I've ever heard in my life at the same time
>Red convertible 1963 Plymouth Sport Fury crashes through the wall
>Anthony Bourdain pops out and cooks me a fucking righteous grilled cheese and tomato soup
>He hands me the keys and says "my son, this way is now yours. Gain wisdom, but be thine not for unto at"
>I ask him what he means, with tears in my eyes
>He gives me a gentle smile, then turns into a solid gold statue I can with whatever I please

Tonight was cool.
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>>158821915
I played the shit out of BC2 and absolutely loved it.

BF3 and BF4 both felt more like Call of Duty games than Battlefield games, and for that reason I hated them. It took A LOT of convincing for me to finally pick up BF1, but now that I have I'm really enjoying it. It feels much more like BC2 than BF3 or BF4 and I really, really enjoy that about this game.

A lot of it triggers my /k/ autism but it's easy to get past that because it's just a video game and a rather fun video game at that.
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>>158822368
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>>158822138
HOLY SHIT ITS REAL

EA DON'T LET THIS DIE ON ME AGAIN OR I SWEAR I'LL KILL MYSELF FOR REAL AND MY BLOOD WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS
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>>158822368
>Log on
The most fictional thing about your post
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>>158822138
we /abletoenjoydayoff/ now
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i can't track a specific medal if it's not in the weekly rotation?
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>went from assault rank 10 to rank 3

im fucking done
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>matchmaking failed
>an unknown error occured. please try again later
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>>158822871
>joey57

A-anon how many joey pics do you have?
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>>158822931
Roughly 60. There's a few webms and gifs too
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A-Am I the only one who really enjoys the M1903 Experimental?
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still wont let me go online, im drunk and alone and just want to play games
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>>158822138
>Looks like you're offline! Want to play some Campaign?

I JUST WANTED TOO PLAY
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>SERVERS ARE FUCKING DOWN AGAIN
where does this negro live I'm going to murder him
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THE FUCKEN GAME D/C
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ITS FUCKING DOWN AGAIN FUCK YOU EA
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people are playing RIGHT NOW and I STILL CANT FUCKING CONNECT
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>>158823084
I've not gotten it, heard it's shitty (and it rustles my autism a bit since they never actually made it to Europe). I just love the animation of switching it to K-bullets and back though, that was a great touch
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>some literal dumbshit 3rd world yuroshitter is ruining everything for everyone for 8+ hours primetime saturday because he spent thousands of dollars on fucking FIFA and now wants his money back

i would fucking kill myself if I was a yuro, god you people are a fucking embarrassment
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>>158823213
I completed part of my weekly medal but the game dropped. It probably won't even be there when I get on again.
Eva Green because.
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>>158823342
>implying slavshits are european
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>can launch BF1 in offline mode but can't launch any of my origin access games

i swear im finna kill a nigga boi im tellin u rite now
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>>158823342
EA has a $1bn/year profit, if I was that slav scum I'd watch my ass before someone knocks on the door and gives me one to the head and 2 to the chest.
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This isn't fair.
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>>158823342
Let's not place the blame squarely on this slav. Yes, he's a stupid asshat but in the end, it's still EA's fault that their shitty server architecture allows a single butthurt slav to down EA's servers.
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I really fucking wish this game had a test range / practice mode. I spent so much god damn time in BF4's gitting good with choppers.

Also
>the plane campaign
What the FUCK were they thinking? People really weren't fucking around when they said they made the single player easy for good reviews were they.
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>It's down again
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>>158823458
We /ck/ now?
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>>158823693
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>>158823480
>spends $1000 on a fucking video game
>didnt get what he wanted, knowing the RNG chance
>bitches and takes down the servers
>this is EA's fault
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FML, I just bought the fucking game yesterday and downloaded it overnight, and now the shit's not working. Fucking EA.
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>doing fucking great as assault
>working towards hellreigel
>lost connection

im officially mad
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>>158823739
Go away EA marketer.

If your company stopped cheaping out on literally everything then you'd have a server architecture that could handle a single analravaged slav.

It's not like this is a concerted effort by an elite group or state-sponsored actor, after all.
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>>158823737

>philly chili cheese dog

I'm sickened, yet curious.
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>>158823785
Its called a business faggot
What's your origin id
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>>158823794

Also did i lose all of my xp
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>>158823902
Yup
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>>158822368
d-do you need to talk anonkun
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>>158823902
You dont lose XP
You lose everything your earn
If you level up and get coins or a box and the server died
You don't get it
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>>158823984

So the xp towards ranking up the class stays?
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>>158824214
Yea
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d-does anyone wanna h-hold hands while we wait?
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>>158824334
*holds ur hand* :3
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>>158824334
I'm just playing some campaign
If this shit doesn't get fixed, I'm just go to play RS:Siege instead
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ITS UP
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its up but im the only one in the server
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>>158824498
Guess I'll get another round in before the assblasted slavshit gets back to it
Fuck
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>only have mud and blood codex and manuals to do to get all of them
>it's the longest with stealth sections
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first for its up!
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>yfw they add gore DLC
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>try to log back in
>Verify Your Identity
>We sent a security code to your email

But they didn't
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>It's up

nice meme
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>realize we are getting owned
>look at scoreboard
>its 6 vs 15 players

does the game have no auto balancing at all?
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>>158823381
How do I even get medals? Do they passively track? I haven't gotten a single one and I've done plenty of the requirements, having read all the metal descriptors.
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>>158824919
Happened to me a couple of times, first I thought my team sucked horribly, then i looked at the scoreboards...
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND ITS FUCKING DOWN AGAIN

FUCK SLAVS
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>>158824924
You can only select one and they cycle every week or so. And nope, both the medal objectives and the medals themselves are actively tracked. e.g. for Support it was: suppressions, mortal kills, resupplies and kills/life (in that order). So my resupplies during the suppresions portion didn't count. If it were passively tracked it would have been fulfilled as fast as fuck.
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>>158818038
I wish BF1 went more in depth with how World War 1 started.
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>>158825225
Of course a fifa fan is this autistic and shitty

cyberpunk future where megacorporations have assassins who kill people who ddos shit when
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>>158825353

why is the king of furries making niko bellic shoot mario?
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god i fucking hate yurope
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>>158826057

same desu
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>>158824919
No, it also doesn't punish retards that always leave when anything minor goes wrong (like losing slightly). Every BF game has fake match making and balance. The leaving stat whores keep bailing and it turns into a stomp.

People leaving games early should be penalized either in SPM/skill rating, marked on their player card as a frequent leaver, and publically shamed on the score screen so everyone knows.

My win rate is atrocious because I join games right before they end as little bitch boys take their ball and quit out because they can't handle the shame of losing by their own merit.
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Someone explain this whole FIFA BS to me.

another reason to hate the fucking sport
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s17GO5JmhYxB
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>>158826283
Asspained FIFA loving slav is ddossing shit.
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>>158826283
No one knows what the problem is both scenarios are equally damning:

1) some Russian script kiddie with a botnet can paralyze a 4.5 billion dollar a year company despite the fact you could use a 100k bot net and make more money in the time it takes to whine about it.

2) a 4.5 billion/yr company cannot afford to pay a proper communcations/pr/support team to let the players fucking know what is is going on during prime time on a weekend for 9 hours (just like they can't write patch notes)
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It's up faggots.
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>destroy all field guns

It'd be nice if it gave me a fucking number to keep count. There's 36 of them and good luck trying to not miss the empty ones all the way off to the side
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>>158826485
>>158826673
http://vocaroo.com/i/s06gwtoqP6JX

xD

you're really devilish anon hehe
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>>158826485
I wanna be friends with you
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I'm playing right now.
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>>158827008
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0oNOKzxZFMz
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>>158819397
I dunno man. Dat Prussian Blue.
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>>158827316
this fucking voice
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>defending team: mortars
>attacking team: nigger snipers
operations mode in one picture
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So I completed all the field manuals and codexes today but I don't have the Black Bess, Howdah, or 1895 skins. Anyone know what could be up with that?
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Do you only see the flare circle when you're the person who used it? Or do I just never see them because everyone is gay and doesn't use them?
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>tfw there aren't enough australian servers
why dice? all i want to do is play this game
it's the only thing i have going for me in my life, for a few weeks this will be all i ever think about
i dream of battlefield when i sleep
i'm desperately trying to get my k/d above .3 but i can't when queues last more than 30 minutes
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>>158828409

because of the server fuck ups, it was never communicated. sorry bud
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>>158828742

What part of Australia you in mate?
Melbourne area has tons of servers going on
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>>158820338
Each class has a unique fast firing pistol with 450 rpm, these are the best because they allow you to spamfire down anyone from the hip.

Medic also has the Auto Revolver (fast reload, good damage)
Assault has the Gasser (slow reload, but strongest damage)
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>>158827750
Mortars are just the natural response to an enemy team filled with hillniggers. If half of these scout fucks would play assault or medic, attackers would win every game.
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>monte map
>defending
>sit in bunker spamming med packs and ammo packs reviving team
It's almost like cheating
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Mondragon Storm feels like cheating
it is so easy to use
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40 or 64 player operations?
which are actually better balanced?
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>>158830357
it feels the same as every other medic weapon desu
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>>158830676
meant for >>158830365
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Anyone know how the leveling system in BF1 works?
What is maxs rank?
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How the fuck do you buy shit from the store with warbonds?

Can't find a single fucking option to do this, why is this stupid fucking thing so fucking opaque?

And yes, I have enough warbonds to get what I want.
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>>158830956
Press customize, then click the weapon you want to buy in the drop down menu.
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>>158830956
Log on to www.battlefield.com
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Do the 4x optical medic weapons have scope glint? What is you favourite medic weapon /bfg/?
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>>158819397
I agree but brits have darker uniforms so they are better at blending with cover.
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I kind of regret getting this. I loved all the previous Battlefields (particularly BFBC2, BF2, and BF4), but somehow this one misses the mark for me.

>I fucking hate the revamped melee system. It's a fucking shooter, not a shovel simulator.
>I hate how little actual weapon variety there is.
>I hate how weak and unreliable automatic weapons seem to be
>I hate Gas Grenade spam
>I hate the small changes like I can't spam parachute anymore or I have to be standing to sprint
>I hate Elite Classes. Just why? Heroes made EA Battlefront's already shitty gameplay worse IMO.
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>be bored while waiting for servers to come back up
>do arab campaign, all codexes and war diaries
>server back up
>don't have the skin
fuck you ea
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>>158832418
Well...it's WW1. What did you expect?

If anything I don't think tanks are OP enough. They were basically doom machines on wheels but they feel pretty weak here.
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>>158832593
You get a skin for doing that shit?
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is this a common bug when a new round in operations start and i'm taking a plane i will just spawn in the air without the plane outside the map and fall to the ground?
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>>158832762

semi-rare
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>>158832418
>I hate how weak and unreliable automatic weapons seem to be

>he doesn't know about the Automatico Factory

laughingkrauts.jpg
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>>158832684
yeah for the lever action.
Different skins for different guns with every campaign
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Is Belgium going to be dlc?
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>>158832617
Except they were unreliable as fuck and basically death traps for the crews.

I think this seems like a fair compromise.

Still though, I feel like my points are valid regardless of setting.
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>>158833548
Literally who?
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>>158833687
>Complain about gas in a WW1 game

>Still think complaints are valid

wew lad
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>>158823693
No, fuck off jack.
Go fucking eat raw meat somewhere else.
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>>158832418
Your last 2 complaints are the only ones with validity, the rest is just the fact that you personally dislike a WWI setting.
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>>158833757
I want trenchwarfare
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Behemoths OP? y/n
I feel like it should be given in the last round of Ops only.
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>>158834284
>I feel like it should be given in the last round of Ops only.

Yeah sure, just drop the attackers win chance even lower.
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>>158833927
Are you actually retarded?

Gas Grenades are unbalanced. 2 grenades that last for fucking ever and the counter to them makes the weapons of 2 classes nearly useless, but the other 2 remain almost unaffected.

Players should get 1 grenade max. And I don't like the hipfire penalty with the mask. Some gamemodes are nearly unplayable because of all the gas spam. Like Rush, for instance, you're forced to run through a mile long cloud of gas unable to accurately shoot anyone.

>>158834167
I don't think so. DICE has already taken a fuckload of liberties to make the setting playable in the modern era, so why fuck with an already working formula so much? Melee was fine in BF3. It's melee in a shooter. It shouldn't be so powerful. This isn't COD.

As for gas see the above. And automatic weapons being weak and unreliable in their accuracy is more shitty game balance than DICE trying to be authentic so don't give me that shit.
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>>158834309
*At current firepower. Make it kind of shit when its first deployed. The Dreadnought especially.
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>>158834381
>It shouldn't be so powerful
Wait, you're talking about bayonet charges?
If someone charges you you can hear them yelling from mile away and they take more damage while charging. Out of 1k+ times I already died in multiplayer only 4-5 deaths are from bayonets. And that's just because I've been scratching my balls and not paying attention to the game.
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>>158834381
I disagree, it's not overly easy to kill someone with a bayonet charge and melee doesn't one hit so I don't see the problem. Melee would have been more important in wwi because the weapons sucked so I like that it brings something new.
As for autos, it sounds like you haven't tried many or you suck with them. Plenty of people do very well with the automatico, and if dice buffed it with better accuracy and range then it would easily be the best weapon in the game. Why use a rifle when a fucking machine gun is as good at mid range? I agree with you on the elite class rubbish, but that's about it.
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>>158834284

Not OP. Get five assaults together and you can tear them apart easily.
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>>158834381
>balance
>in a dice game
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>>158834897
>Suggesting teamwork

You might as well be speaking Klingon to that guy.
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>>158834961

It only makes sense. I can only imagine the damage a squad or two of assaults could cause with AT rifles, AT grenades, and dynamite.
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>>158834595
I'm mostly talking about regular melee.

If I'm slightly damaged it seems to be a OHK and I hate the front facing little lock-on animation that plays. I'm shooting a mother fucker in the face with a goddamn rifle and suddenly I'm sucked towards him with a shovel in my neck.

It's the same knife bullshit from BF4 but with no counter to act as a deterrent for bringing a knife to a gunfight. Basically BF1 has turned into Halo. In close quarters you go for melee instead of the gun already in your hands because that makes sense.
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>>158818038
>hating bf4 in op post
Op confirmed cod fag
Kill yourself
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>>158835280
The slowest melee weapons in the game do like 60 damage, so you are not slightly damaged if you get killed by something like the Hatchet.
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You guys think we'll get real trench warfare soon
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>>158828742
just go with quickmatch, i always load straight in bra.
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>>158836148
Not soon
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Why did they make cavalry so fucking useless?
Three shots to kill on the rifle, sword hitbox is tiny (especially temporally), barely any health anymore.

There's barely any point to spawning in cavalry over infantry that actually spawns in the field anymore unless they've got literally nobody at their back points.
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>>158836148
Nobody unironically wants trench warfare
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>>158836481
>nobody

get necked you fag
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>>158836470
Dismounted cavalry is very strong, you get medkits and supply kits. You also have a lot more health than everyone else. Use the horse to get you places, dismount to fight.
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>>158836481
>implying
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>>158836538
They "fixed" that.
It's not the case anymore.
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>>158836148
It's hard to force random people to do trench warfare. Maybe when custom servers go up you might see people enforcing RP but right now I think Operation is doing a pressure good job, especially first few stages of kaisershlacht
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>>158836620
I get you feel the need to lie to make your point. But the cavalry trooper has more HP than the regular infantry. You get medkits and supply kits.

Git gud.
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>>158836620
>>158836538
Er, having more health, I mean.
Considering on foot the Russian Cavalry is just a worse version of the Russian Trench, having medkits isn't enough to really do much anymore.

Considering they spawn with the same frequency of tanks it's a little ridiculous how weak they are now.
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>>158836481
I do!

Unfortunately, absolutely zero games do WWI right so I'm stuck with trash like BF1.

I actually kind of miss WWII shooters now. At least those were hard to fuck up.
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>>158836734
They don't have more health, they take less damage.
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>>158836641
>It's hard to force random people to do trench warfare.
Have a map where both teams actually have trenches, and increase the deadliness of emplaced machineguns.

It's not hard.
>>158836760
>absolutely zero games
Verdun?
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>>158836807
There a difference?
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>>158836734
The latest patch changed that. They only take less damage on the horse now. When they dismount they're just regular ass troops. They used to be great on foot at launch and in the beta, but you can't do that anymore.
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>>158834961
Qu'vatlh , mother fucker.
Regardless of how easy it is to kill it's pretty shit to win the first round of Ops and have the enemies get a free behemoth for three rounds
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>>158836830
>machineguns
You mean the ones that will never be used because you get sniped as soon as you walk up to it. To make it work enemy trench legit has to be "out of bounds" until charge is issued or something or it will just turn in to Deathmatch
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>>158837000
They'd be used a lot more if they killed much easier. If you were able to gun down snipers easier than they could hit you.
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>>158836931
Which patch? The latest patch notes I can find say nothing about what you're talking about. You aren't lying to us are you?
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>>158836901
The one difference is can think of now is that it still takes you the same amount of time to heal form medpacks. If he had 150 hp for example it would have taken longer to heal. Same with special classes
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>>158837000
This is another thing that upsets me. Sniper rifles are way too fucking good for the time.

I'm quickly starting to regret purchasing this. I fell for the advertising and finally bought an EA game after years and years but now I see that no, they've not changed at all. It's still copy, paste, throw in cheap "message", rinse and repeat.
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>>158836830
And have it like Verdun, where there are charges onto the other trench and if they they win, Iran pushed on and if they lose the other team gets to counter push. It could be fun as fuck.
They would need to reduce gas honestly, into a airstrike like thing instead of grenade.
This is all a dream though, it won't happen ever.
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>>158824836
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>>158837168
>Charge through no man's land
>No one follows through because they know they'll get shot
Wow, good idea!
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>>158837315
It's promted to charge.

How do you think they did it in real WWI anon? Two guys charged and the rest stayed behind?
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>>158837168
Problem with Verdun and "historical" WW1 combat is that it all boils down to pixel hunter simulator. People won't human wave through no mans land because that gets you killed. You can't get points and level up if you are dead 99% of the time.

So people go prone and pixel hunt for most of the match. Also the weaponry promotes this style of play.
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>>158837374
>CHARGE!
>everyone shot down within 10 seconds
>Other team charges
>Everyone shot down within 10 seconds
Yeah, sounds like a blast
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>>158837538
get off 4chan, grandpa.
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Trench warfare in video games sounds like a concept with some niche fun, but in practice, to get everyone to actually play along with the whole thing is to make an RP server, basically.
Same thing with ARMA. Even though that game is much closer to an actual simulator than something like Battlefield, you'll still need to set up a server with strict rules and only invite people you know will play along.
It can be a ton of fun, especially if it's with a community you know will play along, that you can trust, and can communicate with, but that's a huge barrier to get over if you want some mindless fun.
So basically, trench warfare for BF1 never.
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>>158837538
>I hate anything that isn't COD gameplay
>I hate new things

You sound like a blast anon
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>>158837415
Tbqh even "unrealistic" BF1 turns into a pixelhunt on any map that's at least somewhat open. At least 50% scouts at any given time.
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>>158837689
There was plenty of battles and battlefields in WW1 that didn't have trenches. BF1 clearly went out of its way to depict those locations and battles. We may see actual "trench" maps when the French are added but more non-trench maps with the Russian DLC.
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>>158837721
>>158837587
Ok, someone explain to me how the charging team is ever going to be successful unless they have a huge numbers advantage? Or unless the defending team are literal retards.
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>>158837737
It just feels more like WWII at times, and I hate this. I guess it's hard to depict WWI when you don't have the iconic trenches, and more than half of the guns are either experimental or were hardly used.
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>>158837803
Decent map design aka the maps would be nothing like what battlfields looked like in WW1. Fuck ton of cover for the attackers, shitty MG placement for defenders etc.
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>>158837803
I believe the idea is that you're supposed to charge in large enough numbers where the enemy will eventually need to stop firing to reload and you'll be able to get down into their trenches and cause havoc.
It's basically throwing your troops at the enemy and hoping enough of them survive to take over the trench.
t. has no idea what actually happened and is just guessing
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>>158836470
>>158836470
Fuck you mean? It's two shots to the torso, the things a monster.
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>>158837803
>what is verdun

There is already an example of this working. It's not a sure fire thing, but it would require teamwork and if you prompt teamwork it can work.
I'm not saying there wouldn't be bad games, but if people don't want to play trenches, they don't have to.
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How do you effectively and quickly level up a class? I want the hellrieger on my assault class but it requires level 10. I am only level 2 so far and I've played a lot with it already, I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
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>>158837905
No no, you're mostly right.

Just that it was very rare for anyone to survive long enough to make it to the other trench...
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>>158837941
Use the boat exploit.
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>>158837737
True, but they could've had at least one or two in the base game given that that's what WW1 is known for. But yeah, we'll see what happens in the DLCs I guess.

>>158837803
It turns into a meatgrinder regardless but the fact that maps like Iwo Jima in RS can be won by the attackers shows that it's possible. If people know what they're doing and actually work together.
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>>158837978
Care to elaborate? Also, since you said exploit - any chance of getting banned for using it?
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>>158837905
I guess so. I mean, if you look at the death count, some battles literally ranged into 100ks and almost into the 1mils at The Battle Of Somme.
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>>158838060
57k casualties for the British on the first day of the Somme.

Do people want to play in something like that? Spend the entire match stuck in barbed wire or mud, then getting machine gunned repeatedly the entire match?
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>>158838031
1. Find a server running Empire's Edge.
2. Get in a boat.
3. Drive to the enemy's boat spawn.
4. Gun them down over and over. You get XP for damaging and destroying the boat even if there's nobody in it and they respawn INSTANTLY after being destroyed. Since there is no Boater perk, you'll level whatever perk you spawned with.
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>>158838104
Imagine bayonette charges with the same mechanic as the banzai charge from Rising Storm
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>>158838185
>Banzai charge, sword out, towards enemies one that jungle map
>Miss the fucker and get shot in the back
At least I wasn't MG'd down this time.
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>>158838185
Red Orchestras melee kills are the least satisfying thing ever. Maybe Dice will make a WW2 game again.
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What's your melee weapon of choice ?
Stabbing someone with a fucking shovel or sikh sword is the funnest shit
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So there's really no other thread to ask, but how big are the maps in Battlefront compared to the BF games?

Also how big are the maps in BF1 and how many are there exactly?
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>>158838489
All of the Blunt weapons are pretty dank. The Trench knives come second.

However the Shovel collarbone kill is the most brutal in the game for me.
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>>158838104
It's more "muh WWI" and if balanced right, it wouldn't literally be that, but scaled down and fun.
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bf1's gameplay sucks and anyone that says other wise is a faggot
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Continuing a conversation from yesterday, would anyone else like a battering ram style item? Could fill a gear slot and slam down metal doors.
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>>158839129
Jokes on you I'm already a faggot
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>>158839216
Assaults and Supports have gadgets that already easily take down armored doors. Certain weapons can take down barbed wire and wooden doors. However I like that metal doors are somewhat of an obstacle for attackers. Making them even more useless is a bad idea.
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>>158839129
no u
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>>158838489

I like the pickaxe. Just wish more weapons could cut barbed wire than the fucking hatchet.

>>158839441

Point. Plus, bunker defense is really fun. There's always that idiot that goes out and forgets to close the door, though.
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>>158838576
Did someone say collarbone
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>>158838576

If you're fast enough and in the right circumstances, you can kill someone just by stabbing them a few times.
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WTF ANYONE ELSE GET DE-RANKED??? ALL MY PROGRESSION HAS BEEN RESET PLEASE BE A BUGGGG
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>>158839826
If you're level 0 it's just a classic server-shitting-itself thing
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>>158839129
>not sucking dicks in 2016
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>>158839557
>mfw the death screams during melee kills
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>>158840060
>The screams of someone on fire

>The shouts of soldiers when they notice gas
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>>158840108
>Guy dies shrieking while on fire
>Hit him with a syringe
>oy thanks lad
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>>158840108

Gas grenades are the most horrifying thing. Especially in an enclosed space.
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>>158840108
>>158840283
Let's test out my new Nerve gas
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Any tips for how to play as support? What's a good weapon to use? What tactics have you been successful with? Teach me, supportbros.
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>>158840530

Pls no. ;_;
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>>158840108
Dulce et Decorum Est, the poem, kinda Gives the feeling of the horror of war and how dying for your country is bullshit.
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these are mine
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>>158840283
>>158840530
COME OUT COME OUT LITTLE PEEGS
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Servers up yet?
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>>158841234
>No one cared who I gassed until it was the Jews
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>>158841234

No, please, not the gas!
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>tfw level 0
feels bad man
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>>158840985
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>>158841672
legit rank 10s or boat abuse?
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>>158841790
Pretty much legit. I used the boat glitch once to level up Assault from 8 to 9 but it was so fucking boring I stopped after that.
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Was lvl 63 and just had my stats reset to 0


REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158841862
What show is this? Hook an aryan up with some source.
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>>158840985
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>>158842070
you have a problem
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>>158842112
why
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>>158842070
Delete this
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Do any supportbros have any tips for me on how to support? I want to help my team but I'm a humble assault usually.
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>>158842070
I like you.
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>>158842260
Use the BAR
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>>158842070
This shit just came out wtf
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>>158842260
90% of all supports that kill me are sat on the outskirts of the map, prone in a crater sniping with their LMG

Maybe they're onto something
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>>158842260
Throw down Ammo everywhere. Grats you're better than 99.9% Supports.
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>>158842360

That's it? Make it rain ammo? I can do that. Thanks, anon.
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>>158842307
EE version brah I've had it since the 17th
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>>158842394
Do you really need someone to tell you how to play? Can you not think for yourself? Jesus man.
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>>>158842260
There are defensive LMGs and assault rifle LMGs
Latter lets you play like assault, former forces you to play like a safety, you hang around the back to serve as both good spawning point and keeping flanks and other routes secure
Also you are accurate over long distances so you can still kill people easy far away
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>>158842502

I can and do. Just figured, having played only Assault so far, that Support would be a little more complicated than just ammo drops.
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>>158842260
Make it rain ammo, spot everything, run in with the team and cap, use mortars to pin down enemy and you'll be like top five every time
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:^)
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Um
What the fuck is up with these SP pilot controls, this is ridiculous
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>>158840985
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as someone who doesn't own this game, is there any reason to use bolt actions and shit over automatics?
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>>158843110
Yeah because of the sweetspot they get
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>>158843110
Yes. I prefer them. But its up to personal opinion if you want to use them or not.
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Are the servers still down?
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>>158843110
Immersion. Also given that most bolt actions seem to be sniper rifles they'll all have a sweetspot where they oneshot people at.

t. someone who also doesn't own the game
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>>158841941
not that guy but it's from "The Strain"

the guy is a nazi vampire
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>>158843110
Bolt action class lets you carry spotting flare which is super powerful
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>>158843110
most automatics have heavy dispersion, bolt actions don't
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The Optical sight fucking sucks donkey dick
>>
>open battlepack
>an error occured
>oh well, surely ill get it back
>no
>no new items in my inventory either
??
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>Amass enough shitty CS:GO knock off skins to buy a 900 scrap box
>try to open it
>An error has occurred
>the box is gone
>no new weapon
>all scrap is gone
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>>158843110
They're the best guns for range and good if you are shit at follow up shots since they don't kick like other weapons do.
Mannlicher 1895 and Lee-Enfield arguably outperform the medic guns in all roles.
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>>158843680
It's a WWI based game, the fuck do you expect
>>
this attempt to copy csgo is pretty funny lmao

but I got a skin for the tiny pistol so thats cool
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>>158843773
I expect it to be fun and enjoyable

There is nothing to say that they can't make the sights unrealistically visibility

When tanks have unrealistic visiblity, mobility and aiming
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I think I'm gonna do that boat thing for recon because I'm on console and can't snipe for shit
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do you guys think that tanks will be nerfed?

I remember in early BF3, the MBTs were ridiculously overpowered, so dice nerfed them so you had to practictically get a headshot with the main gun to kill an infantryman.

to me, all the tanks seem pretty unbalanced but I havent been in the multiplayer scene since bf3 so im not sure.

thoughts?
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>>158843391
bumping, because I see servers up but I can't connect to them and I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end now.
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>>158844137
Just heavy tank right now.
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>>158844137
Tanks are balanced it's just that people are trying to solo them which doesn't work very often and if you are having trouble with tanks try the mines as they can one shot them
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>>158844137

Tanks don't need to be nerfed. Even the heavy tank would only require a concerted effort from two or three assaults to destroy. Any light tank can be destroyed by one skilled assault.
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>join match
>only level 50
>against multiple 50+s
hmmmmmm
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>>158844423
>>158844323
>>158844308
This is what tanks should be able to see, no 3rd person

Nerf tanks vs infantry
And nerf the amount of shots of dynamite/mines/rockets it takes to kill a tank

That way tanks are only used to kill tanks, and never waste ammo on infantry
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>>158844587

If they did that, no tank would ever be able to kill a single assault, much less another tank.
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jarek is a retard
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Been using emblem on the left for a week now. Nothing happened.
Changing to the one on the right
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>>158844587
>semi sim tanks in a full on arcade game
As much as I'd love to see these sort of tanks again, you'd have to add the rest of RO2's mechanics as well, with one or two tanks per game and side and everyone running about with bolt actions.
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>grenade indicator is faded as fuck
>still die at full health

ok
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So PS4 servers are still down?
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Using mortars in tdm for that support medal, a good idea? Or just use them in operations
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>>158844587
Ok then

Assault loses the AT Rocket. The only way to effectively fight tanks is with field guns. AT Grenades only disable tanks, like the tracks and guns same with K bullets and Tankgewher.

Realism is a two way fucking street, tanks don't get to be subjected to realism while everything else stays the same.
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>>158845318
I see a handful of full servers but I can never get in
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>>158845387
deal!
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>>158845382
I can be a tdm shitter?
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>>158845512
Tanks will never be killed, there is a reason you're a shit poster on 4chan and not a game designer.
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>>158845387

Meh. I use the AT rifle more for headshotting infantry anyway.
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I just played my first few games and it's not showing any of my stats and I haven't got any xp. What gives?
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>>158845706
servers have been shitting themselves since earlier tonight, give it some time
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>>158843701
>Open Battlepack
>Black Screen
>ALT+F4 my game
>Reopen the game
>Battlepack is gone
>Nothing in my inventory

Thanks.
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Best mode to use mortars in .... go
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plz b gentle
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>>158846084
64 Operations
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>>158846084

Conquest. Smaller modes tend to have more covered areas to hide from mortar fire.
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Love how medals can run out while the servers are down
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>>158846230
"run out" ?
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>>158846324
They have a time limit
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>>158846084
64 player operations
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>defending F on st quentins for forever in just an artillery truck, go 30-4
>get out of it to repair it
>3-22 guy jumps into it
>drives it down the road into E and gets blown up instantly
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>>158846732
this is why you go into a secluded area away from enemies and friendlies to fix your shit
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>>158846084
Conquer Hell Forest
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>>158845893
Thanks, the next game I played it worked properly
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And so it's begun
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>doing sniper medal
>all challenges done just need 1 more counter sniper kill
>find sniper
>shoot
>sponge
>kicked
REEEEEEEE
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ITS UP
but for how long?
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>>158848141
You lie
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>>158844776
you absolute madman! 88 means HEIL HITLER!
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>>158844776
What are you expecting to happen?
I'm literally just using the swastika one on the bottom.
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PS4 servers up yet? I went to bed early because I couldn't play this game so now that I'm awake and 10 hours have passed and servers have been down for like 16 hours shit better be working EA I mean fucking COME ON!!!
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The servers are never coming back on. EA just wanted that quick cash and they've shut it down now that they got their money.
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>>158848621
Nope. I've been trying all morning.
Just got all the way to the squad selection screen with 4 other people and it immediately went black
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I'm loading into a game now
Pls let's not fuck this up EA
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>>158848907

Give up. It's over.
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>>158824334
Add me on kik "dawnappears" c;
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I keep getting closer and closer with the server
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>>158844423
I'd like to see one skilled assault stop someone in an artillery truck as they get cut down by the laser beam gatling
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>>158849608

I completely forgot about the artillery truck. The one land-based vehicle I haven't destroyed yet. Good catch, anon. I stand corrected.
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>>158849608

Are the variants any good?
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>tfw you're a Battlefield prodigy
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>>158849907
I often slaughter herds of infantry in the AA truck, since the machine gun is still insane on that one, but against tanks it is almost worthless, you must avoid them.

The mortar truck is extremely questionable, I had one game where I had an insane farm in an absolutely perfect spot but have not been able to reproduce it.

The default armored artillery truck is a fast glass cannon that can abuse firing angles since the actual cannon part can't be damaged, you can poke it over hills and shoot things, but it gets wrecked fast if it starts taking shells.
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>>158850031

I don't know that feel. Have you ever headshot someone with an anti tank rifle? It's so thrilling.
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>>158850131
Their whole body is a head with that kit

>>158850031
Shouldn't the picture be a feelsguy with model 10 or hellriegel tattoos? I don't think a pulsating dick scalp would help much.
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>>158850131
>tfw never shot a vehicle with it
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>servers fucked so play single player
>pilot campaign
>beat trench mission
>think its over but then suddenly GERMAN SURPRISE ATTACK OVER ENGLAND

I was plesently surprised by that last mission.
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>>158850398

I blew up a train with it once. That 1000 points was so satisfying.
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>>158850440
loved the cheeky ending speech
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>>158848489
Can you share those emblems?
I can't get emblemsbf to work.
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>>158850561
If you can tell me how.
They're really simple to make though
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>>158850131
Ze flammenwerfer is far more satisfying.
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>>158829746
>this
Please, just give a /k/ommando the bolt-actions for every class
I just want to play Ammo-boy but i'm stuck mowing faggots down with inaccurate machine guns

Hardcore when?
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>>158850806

I just wish I could get it and break into a heavily occupied bunker with it. With the element of surprise, I could burn so many people.
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>>158850806
ja
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>>158851016
saw a guy who did that on the first B bunker on monte grappa operations, that shit was crazy

the bunkerfags forgot to spam enough explosives
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>>158851116

Could you imagine if there was a flammable gas grenade? Throw a few of those in there, throw some incendiaries, then light it up.
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>>158851016
I got it at Argonne forest yesterday and got a whole squad that had just spawned in one of those pillboxes at flag D. It was better than cumming.
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>>158851016
yes you could
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How do I upload an image as my emblem on ps4?
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>>158851071
How in the fuck do you even hit people with the BAR?
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>>158851207

I had a guy come into the concrete emplacement with a flammenwerfer once. My AT rifle saved my life.
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>>158851305
wait, can you upload an image as your emblem on PC?
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>>158851330
by hipfiring no matter the range
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>>158838338
Least satisfying and most practical.
More or less realistic depending on who doing the beating.
>stuck in kill-cam, instantly ineffective combatant because I can't make a shallow stroke or stick my bayonet in their neck and be done with it while they bleed to death on the ground
also
>Bayonet charge, a tunnel-visioned blurry mess where a full sprint's momentum completely disables human beings for 5+ seconds and prevents them from changing direction while sprinting.
Avenged by enemy, every time.
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>>158851410
using battlelog and your bf4 account, yes
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30 hours in and still get my shit pushed in. Over 1100 on BF4 and did fairly well there. What am I doing wrong? My life is a lie.
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I see there wasn't much of a shillstorm about the game's release on /v/

is it mediocre as fug?
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>>158851884
people on /v/ don't like games, only bicker among eachother who's shilling the most

return to your containment board
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>>158851884

Community has been too busy having fun. Nobody cares if you buy it. There's enough of us already.
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>>158851884
>I see there wasn't much of a shillstorm about the game's release on /v/

are we browsing the internet?
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>>158851884

If you want to know, if you should buy the game, then just ask, brah.
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>>158852007
>>158851884

Are we browsing the same internet?*
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>>158851976

Not him, but if I wanted to start a conversation about a game that isn't out yet, is /v/ not the right place? Will I be accused of shilling if I make a thread?
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>>158839557
>SHOVEL STAB
>all caps
>clearly not a stab

>>158838576
>>158839557
>thinking it's to the collarbone and not the base of the neck with intent to sever the vein & artery located there
>thinking it's merely to cause random trauma to the collarbone and not to deliver a kill within seconds of delivery, leaving the victim's brain desperately crying out in pain to all of the neurons that will still fire
It's fucking reddit up in here, today.
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Favorite weapons so far

>Assault = automatico
>Medic = memedragon
>Sniper = russian
>Support = M1909 Benét-Mercié


btw. Anybody else confused by the different models and different names?
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>>158852441
Assault - Model 10 Hunter
Medic - M1916 Marksman
Scout - Russian 1895 Infantry
Support - Benet-Mercie Telescopic
Secondary - P08
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>>158852116
Yeah in all honesty you probably will be. Wait for the game to come out and then ask around in its general
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>>158844698
Wrong. Have a squad and communicate. Have some goddamn situational awareness. Don't use the tank like your team wants you to (as a bullet sponge). Use the tank as tanks were intended to be used in WWI (against hard targets [bunkers, houses, other tanks]). Tanks only push forward in coordinated efforts with infantry.
No infantry support, no push. Tanks are OP if you don't drive them up the fucking middle and expect your enemies to be retarded.
>inb4 ptfo
You would be if you communicated with your team and had a damn squad to watch your back while you take out the enemy tank that's overexposed because they rushed B cyka blyat.
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>>158852895
>Scout - Russian 1895 Infantry

Whats difference between infantry and marksman? Does it have no scope?
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WHY AREN'T MY CAMPAIGN SKINS SHOWING UP IN MULTIPLAYER REE
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Who /BAR/ here?
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>>158845186
>anon didn't dive for cover
>anon doesn't understand science or grenades
>anon didn't pray to the gods hard enough
Really though, go prone.
Frag grenade lands at your feet and you go prone. You'll come out alive, if you call 11HP alive, that is.
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>>158853075

Infantry variants have no scope, just iron sights.
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>>158853016

By and large, this doesn't happen in Battlefield. You'll have one or two coordinated squads, and the rest run around doing their own thing.
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>>158853075
Yep, no scope, I increased the zoom to 2x.

Play sneaky mid range with no scope glare, and can counter snipe pretty reliably too.
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>>158853169
I was, familia, until I found the love that is MG15na Suppressor
>Used as Anti Aircraft weapon
>200 round magazine
>30~35 round burst
>The sound of those casing hitting the floor/ground
>Optics
>When she gets a little bit dirty from playing around in the mud all day
>Bipod
>Easy to clean ejaculate out of

The BAR was my first love, a will always hold a special place in my trench
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>>158849608
I've killed an artillery truck with just a rocket gun, they're flimsy as shit and only do well because everyone ignores them.
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>>158853343
Sounds like you don't have friends.
Sucks.
I have a full squad on almost every day.
Some of them don't like being restricted to a metal can so they'll watch us on foot.
Voila! You have an effective tank that can p the fucking o effectively.
Make friends with the degenerates here. Make friends with randoms.
I've had a few randoms try to friend me already; they know how battlefield works. You sure don't seem to.
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>>158853798

This legitimately hurt my feelings, anon.
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>>158853235
It wasn't at my feet though, it was pretty far away. I figured I'd just take some damage and be fine
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Will an i5-2500k be alright for this game?
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>>158853872
Well, fuck. Sounds to me like you need a little more tough love in your life.
Sorry, I guess.'
You only need 4 no-lifes to friend request and you'd be able to effectively tank on Hardcore (when/if it ever comes out).
3 of you in tenk that go boom
2 on foot that go pew (and stand some 10-15 yards behind the tank, unless they've got to clear a structure)
Have at least one support and one medic. I prefer two medics, as I play support and it's annoying to have to switch kits with dead medics all the time just to keep the squad moving in a positive direction.
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>>158853985
that's what i'm using, overclocked to 4.4ghz (air cooled)

they are quite easy to overclock, you pretty much need to if you want performance on bf1
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>>158852339
Those hits are no where near the neck, if they were neck hits the shovel would follow through as its cutting purely through flesh. It stops because its smashing into the collarbone. Which would be near fatal and the sheer pain would cause people to go into shock or pass out.
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>>158853975
Going prone also works on incendiary, FYI. Sprinting makes the fire flare up and do more damage.
>when game designers include science
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What goes through the minds of these people that decide to start shooting at a tank with a submachine gun?
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>>158853985
I get 60 FPS on High settings @4.5 ghz with Asus GTX 970
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>>158854851
>HEY LOOK GUISS IM HELPING!!!
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>>158854372
Okay, bud.
>implying i'm implying the collar bone doesn't come into play at all
>implying a spine & rib cage don't exist and provide resistance to a catastrophic blow such as this

>It stops because its smashing into the collarbone.
Or those other two bony things I mentioned.

>Which would be near fatal and the sheer pain would cause people to go into shock or pass out.
Which would be GUARANTEED FATAL if the veins and arteries in the neck are severed by a fucking shovel swing.
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>>158854851

"I'm almost out of ammo anyway. Hey, tank, look at me!"
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>>158854851
"Fuck YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
It stems from impotence
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>>158854980
>The neck is important: the post

Well you fucking genius, the animators chose for a more brutal kill. As in a big fucking shovel smashing into the collarbone.
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>>158854851
Bait it and hope some assault will blow it up
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What's the best shotgun for close range hip fire? Want to be a building clearer.
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>>158853169
here
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>>158855382
Damn. Is BAR *that* good?

captcha: the olympic symbol, and some german moon runes. What the fuck?
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>>158844587
Play Hardcore when it comes out if you want fairness like that.
Although asking for a game about war to be fair is inherently a fools errand.
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I honestly just want to play the game. I only get one day off and the servers go down for 12 hours with no updates from EA. Completely unacceptable. That being said when I am playing the game, I'm having a blast. Probably in the top 3 games of the series and after more content comes out for the game, I think it could honestly be the best.
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How to fix Support without making it Assault with bigger magazines?
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>>158855382
>Sturmbar

Mah nigga, the best BAR variant

If it could only lose the stupid foregrip
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>try to spawn on C

>Put's you closer to D

fug this shit spawning on points sucks ass
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>>158855802
Make suppressing actually do something.

The amount of times I've unloaded into a sniper about 15m away and he just headshots me like it's nothing is too high
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>>158855526

The bar sucks, enjoy reloading every 2 seconds
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>>158855802
Massively increase ammo count, massively buff suppression but for Support only, and give points for suppression. That way they do what machine guns are supposed to go, suppress, without changing suppression for other classes and keeping Support unique. It also works for the stupid reverse bullet spread thing dice thought was a good idea.
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>>158854851
just to make the asshole look
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>>158855832
nigger the bar storm is objectively an inferior version of the trench, the differences between the guns are that the trench has lower SPREAD, while the storm has higher spread and lower recoil

recoil is controllable, spread is not

storm is shit
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>>158832418
>>I hate how little actual weapon variety there is.
I know it's true to history but this sort of bums me out too. I've only played like 15 hours but I feel like I've seen every play option already, especially with how guns are class restricted

>>158834381
This I disagree with. Gas does just as much collateral damage to your team. It just levels the playing field for everyone but campers, but then you can just spam grenades in the cloud and get them back
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>>158855169
>animators chose for a more brutal kill
Mathematically, you're incorrect due to the angle of impact and the amount of vital organs impacted by said angle when compared to a similar strike on an area just to left or right of. It's less brutal.
It's only more brutal because of your misunderstanding of the situation and assertion that the victim is left to die under immense pain for an extended amount of time. Realistically, more damage is being done to the whole of the human body via a swing to the base of the neck. While brutality does not necessarily equate to damage, the idea of instantly removing ones enemy though trauma is less brutal because of the shock that you mentioned. With bleeding to death, there is a minimum amount of time it takes to die, leaving death/incapacitation by blood loss much more brutal than death/incapacitation by instantaneous trauma.

Also, go fuck yourself.
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>>158856052
Shame. Guess I'll stick to Lewis Suppressive Master Race.
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>>158855802
Make firing single fire have a higher accuracy. Allow bipods to be set up, make suppression a thing that actually works. As of right now, the only job they seem to have is to go in close quarters while unloading all their bullets, killing 2 or maybe three people and then dying.
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Which LMG has long range and low recoil? I want to support my team from mid to long range.
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>>158856052
The gun is much better at killing than the other ones, so what if you have to reload after killing two people?
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>>158855526
It's like the U-100 from Battlefield 4 in some regards.

It's a well-rounded rifle and if you can aim well and be on point it does some decent work. Obviously it's not going to mow down groups of people so you'll want a good side arm in some situations.

Also Trench + gas grenades + ammo crate = unstoppable rape machine. Incendiary grenades also work but you only get one. I've used the gas grenade spam to contest points until friendlies arrive.
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>>158856274
You've never been in a fight in your life your autistic fuck. It shows in your autism filled analysis of effectiveness versus brutality. Breaking a persons collar bone is one of the most painful things a person can experience. While also being a much bigger target than the neck.

The chance of severing an artier in the neck is much smaller than pulverizing the bone in the collar.

A bunch of cucked Swedes understand this more than you. Incredible.
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>>158856302

My nigga.
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>>158856419

How effective are gas grenades? Considering using them on assault with a shotgun.
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>>158856658
best grenades

and I have no idea why you get two
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>>158856658
They're basically smoke grenades that damage enemies and force them to hip fire. The 10A with gas grenades is like whiskey and coke. It just goes together.
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>try to do boat exploit
>people spawn in the boat
>never leave even though I'm in the middle of the ocean doing nothing
What is wrong with these people? If I spawned in a boat with someone doing nothing but shooting boats as they spawned I'd get out.
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>>158856658
Gas grenades are excellent. Gas grenades with a shotgun are full on rape. On maps like Argonne, throw gas into a chokepoint full of enemies, then equip your mask and run in one shot hipfiring everyone.
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>>158856805
>ruining whiskey with coke
you absolute plebian
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>>158855802
Remove the buff to accuracy when firing long bursts and improve the accuracy for all mgs making them actually viable for mid ranges.

Maybe also give them the MG08/15 with water cooling that does not overheat.
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>>158856805

I must perform this experiment when I play next. I'm using the Automatico Trench right now, but surely this will be more fun.
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>>158856856
>boat exploit
You are why puppies cry.
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>>158856624
>thinks having collarbone broken experiencing pain, and coming away from it alive is evidence in support of claim
>it's actually evidence that that's not what's going on because it's survivable and you can't be revived from a melee kill-cam
It's cute how you're proving my point.
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>>158856194
The Trench has 33% lower starting spread only if you hipfire

Meanwhile, the Storm gets a flat 30% reduction to ALL recoil. Vertical recoil isn't that much of an issue, but good luck trying to magdump 30-40m away while the gun sways left and right. It also gets a spread increase buff when firing from the hip as well

It's a perfectly viable choice if you ADS and want to have an easier time staying on target
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>>158855802
Assault is already support with bigger magazines and more damage and more accuracy and bigger dicks plus shotgun access

They could stand to even it out a little bit
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>>158857015
You're done posting cuck. Many of the melee kills in game are not instantly fatal, but you'd wish you were dead anyways.
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>>158857102
ADSing is exactly the issue with the bar storm, it makes you an incredibly easy target for very little gain

You need to dance in this game, and you can't do that if you're locked shuffling around in ADS

Plus not having to take the time to ADS makes you kill them faster
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>>158857204

Not him, but I feel the need to point out that, lethal or not, that's still a critically injured person in an active war zone. If he's not dead when the shovel hits, he will be soon after.
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Any reason they forgot to include the villar perosa in the stats page?

I know it's probably the shittiest heavy class but still...
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>>158855802
Support doesn't need fixing.
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>>158857456
The guy with the turbo autism is saying a going for the neck would be more effect or some shit. Instead of enjoying the animation and its brutality his autism has him shit posting in this thread.
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>>158818038
>Q: Is BF4 dead?
>A: Yes, BF1 now.

Just checked, BF4 population hasn't even dropped since BF1's launch.

Not surprising that the BF1 casuals are trying to kill the game that requires more skill.
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>>158857602

Doesn't really matter. Neck, collarbone, that soldier is dead without an airlift to a hospital. Realistically, it's not something a field medic could treat.
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>>158857535
>villar perosa
>shittiest heavy
You take that back you dumb fucker. I constantly roll entire teams with the VP. Absolute God-tier weapon.
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>>158857756
>game that requires more skill.
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>>158857756
>BF4
>skill
>BF4
>good
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How is the infantry-only population in BF1? Worth getting if I don't care about conquest or vehicle play?
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I wish I could just play Calvary load-out all of the time.
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So I made an emblem in browser on my laptop using emblemsbf. How do I get that to my account on ps4?
>Am I fucked?
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>>158857852
>>158857890
Because more random spread means more skill. You kids must be CSGO players.
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>>158857937

There's even a pretty active smaller conquest called domination. Infantry-only. Pretty fun.
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Still get the game summary not showing up bug
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>>158858075
Actually it does. You can't snipe with your ACOG m16 anymore.
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>>158858075
>Lock on weapons
>Every weapon is full auto
>3d spotting babby mode
>Looking at the map more than the gameplay

>skill

ebin
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>>158857937
I find a game of War Pigeons in only a few seconds on PC. Fun as fuck game mode.
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>>158857828
they way i see it the biggest weakness of heavies is melee and a gun that is not viable beyond anything than close range makes it much easier to get bayonetted. Especially because you need to reload every 3 seconds. Even the tank hunter is better in close range because of the sawed off.
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>doing through mud and blood codex challenges
>sneak through the forest without being detected
>get through the forest without doing any melee kills

fuck me
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>>158858319
It's range is pretty great honestly, and burst fire is how you're supposed to do it. Head shots all the time.
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>>158857340
Because there's also plenty of opportunities to stand still and use positioning to ADS. Shuffling won't work when your opponent isn't incompetent, or lays down such a massive volume of fire power accurately that you get suppressed and killed

I'd be surprised if you can headshot and kill a shiggy peeping out a window across CD bridges on Amiens from the hip only
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>>158858261
>randomness is skill

What's next? Slot machines are the highest skill ceiling games in existence?

>>158858282
So BF1 then?
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>>158858086
Dom is the only infantry only mode?
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>>158858529
You can't make a solid argument can you? BF4 with its CoD style map where people show up on the mini map whenever they fire. Fucking xboxhueg Doritos over everyone's head when they are spotted.

>lock on weapons

Yeah just like BF1.
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>play alone
>amazing scores, top kills literally every game

>play in a full squad
>suddenly barely going positive at times

fuck this
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>>158857456
And even if not, I'd like you to show me a man who can do fucking dick in war with a shattered collarbone. Or a shattered anything for most bones above the waist. Also, brutal in the sense of awfulness to experience, a clean neck shot is fatal within 5 minutes, if not instantly. That isn't brutal, that's merciful, considering your alternatives are being run through, bludgeoned, having your lungs melted, being melted yourself, or painfully untreatable internal bleeding from multiple shattered bones.
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>>158854406
>pick up flametrooper kit at D Flag on Empires Edge
>throw an incendiary into one of the 2 guard towers near the bridge
>3 guys sprint out scorching and screaming
>finish them off
I'm not even a pyro but fuck that was intense
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>>158858528
Shuffling does in fact even mess up very good people. Have you literally never seen a good player's video or stream? In what universe is shooting an unpredictably moving target just as easy as a slowly shuffling zombie?

And I suppose you'll have to be surprised, because the amount of headshots I get from long distance hipfiring is pretty high. I can only imagine people's reactions when they die to a 40 meter hipfire lmg headshot as I'm shuffling around.
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>>158858657
Some maps in Rush are also infantry only.
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>>158858720
I don't need to, you just destroyed your entire argument on your own by describing the game you were defending.

>lock on weapons

Yeah, ignore everything else that makes BF1 a low skill piece of shit because there's no lock on rockets for tanks that drive 10 mph LMAO WOW MLG
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>>158858790
>playing alone in a plane
>like 6 kills a match
>play with friends who can spot and call out
>30+
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>>158858529
Different classes having different engagement ranges requires more skill, yes.
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>>158857756

Bf4's fun but you cant stack or have fun anymore because the only playerbase that's left are the tryhards and backcapping beacon shitters that are somehow always on the enemy team. Add the fact that 90% of the functioning servers are all ranked and autobalance you in the dumbest ways and it becomes a chore to play.

tfw everyone wants to play bf1 but not bf4
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>>158859119
>you just destroyed

Jesus Christ, you work for Buzzfeed or something?
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>>158859007
Thanks, gonna pass on this one then
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>>158855832
Is this frog from banjo kazooie or tooie?
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>>158859192
Or how about the helicopter no lifers who have 3000 hours in helicopters and they have a poster of a helicopter above their bed and they dream about helicopters every night and they can headshot you from across the map with the helicopter minigun
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>>158859192
I like how air isn't quite so cancerously unstoppable like in bf4.
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>>158859397

>being this mad that you're a brainlet

kek
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>>158859298
FF7
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>>158857945
>that cycling animation on the lever action
>the noise of the shells ejecting and hitting the floor
>blasting a hot 76 damage into a cunt's chest
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>>158859506
Or how every class has access to DRMs and Carbines. Why play assault when the Engineer can engage you at any range.
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>>158859165
If it's a bomber, you should learn to play.
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>>158859187
>Small, close quarters map loads
>everyone uses shotguns
>rock paper scissors gameplay

Wow dude everyone is MLG now, so skilled! Do you think you'll be in the upcoming ESL tournament bruh?
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>>158859506

But anon, air is easy to take out in BF4, just have a competent anti air who uses active/passive radars and watch the tears flow down when they complain. The only time you're right is when little bird whores play on maps like flood zone, dawnbreaker, or siege of shanghai.

In case you didnt notice already, those maps don't have AA with the exception of dawnbreaker. Little bird whores like to use buildings as cover to wait for their ECM to cool down while no one can hit them so youre either forced to use stingers or get a lucky shot off with your SMAW/RPG.
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Seen some guy with 40 service stars in the light tank
How?
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>>158859759
.t BF4 plane/heli shitter
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>>158859787

He really loves his tank.
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>>158859231
>no argument

Jesus Christ, are you from /r/Battlefield or something?
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Any of you guys ever get "you need to login with your EA account to view this" when you login with your EA account into the companion web app?shit sucks
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>>158859918
You're the only one in this thread saying BF4 takes more skill than BF1.

The only cure for that kind of stupdity is to jump head first off a three story building
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>>158859787
I'm on my way up there. Every time I get in a light tank, I'm like a one-man holocaust.
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>>158858058
battlefield.com/companion
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>>158859810
Guess not.

Maybe if you knew your effective ranges you'd be pro like me. Tough break, kiddo.
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>>158859524
>get destroyed by helicopter
>try to stinger
>ya just can't, spotted on the map, cunt just shreds you
>try to tank him
>Fuck no, cunt, he shreds you
>try to fly into him
>guess what mate
>shreds ya
>most brokedick fuckin air in any of the games
>some smackass condom dodger has the audacity to just "get a brain bro gg 2 ez" at me while I am getting S H R E D D E D like carne asada every fucking match
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>>158860030
I know, it's like being the only one that is educated about evolution on a creationist forum.

You see all the flies flocking to shit, but it's hopeless.
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>battlefield 1 has stopped working

Same fucking bullshit every time, game freezes for a split second and then crash. What the fuck.
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>>158859786
I had no trouble if I got in an AA, my leading capabilities made people rage in chat and stop flying to try to c4 jeep me. I liked playing on siege and flood zone though where airfags were hard to stop, even if you put forth maximum effort.
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>>158860108

>he doesnt play with a group of vehicle whores to counter the enemy teams vehicle whores

we can see why you like bf1 so much now
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>>158859593
>go prone as support on asphalt
>shells hitting ground make clean metallic notice
>shoot while prone on wooden floor
>shells make dull notice
Sound design and details is 10/10 in this game
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>>158860189
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>>158860192

How long has this been going on? I get off in a few hours and was going to play some...
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>>158859690
Fighter m8. The carpet bomb is ridiculous. Bombers without gunners are instantly doomed because you can just drop your hot load on top of them.
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>>158860302
>le reddit image macros

simply epic
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>>158860404

I see half a dozen grenade symbols pop up around me and just lie down and take it. No point trying to run.
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>>158860429
Glad the thread has its own turboautist.

Do you address people as sir or ma'am when you disagree with what they are saying?
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anyone else's scroll wheel not cycle through weapons?
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why the fuck are none of the skins unlockable via challenges?

what made them think the random loot drop model was an ok route to go?
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>>158857102
>Meanwhile, the Storm gets a flat 30% reduction to ALL recoil

Really? Guess I should unlock the Storm.
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>>158859004
What I meant to say is that "shuffling" in this game barely is anything to worry about at ranges where I ADS. The only time shuffling catches me off guard is in CQC or if someone is trying to juke me while I'm using bolt action/semi auto rifles

The Storm is a perfectly viable choice, I've been stopping to fire my LMGs since BC2 like most people have should. Pure hipfiring LMGs are a new thing here, and until I see videos of people hipfiring and having the same effective TTK as ADSing, it'll always be an attachment that extends its CQC ability but loses at mid and longer ranges to Storm/Telescopic
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>>158860289
I love detail like medics putting individual bullets to the gun if it can't be loaded with a strip
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>>158860331
For me since yesterday. I honestly don't know what it is, sometimes it lets me play for like a hour and a half and then it crashes every 20 minutes.
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>>158860623
It doesn't even make sense business wise, it's not like you can buy packs or anything. One skin a box is retarded as fuck too. The fuck were they thinking? Also you should get vehicle skins for completing the associated medals.
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>>158860640
Do you seriously not know what the difference between spread and recoil is? Storm is similar to the star of david, it marks you so people know you need to be gassed.
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>>158860623
Why do you care about skins in the first place?
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>>158860834
wat

are you high?
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So was I fucking me med on? I just got the flanker light tank and the thing is just absolute trash against everything. What the fuck is everybody's love for this thing?
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When is this boring game being dropped

Can we go back pls
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>>158861152
bf4 was dropped for a reason
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>>158860852
Not him, but the reason it's literally impossible to give a shred of a fuck about skins, even more so than usual, is they mean nothing. You got a pack and got a skin, gratz. At least with unlockable skins, they mean something other than luck or patience.
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>>158861152

Evidently some people find it quite fun. If you don't, you can go back to BF4.
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>4 weapons
>vehicles are overpowered
>Boring maps
>only 3 good maps
>3 point conquest, 64 player map

Nice argument
>>
How do make an anime emblem? I don't watch much anime but it seems to annoy a lot of people so I want to use it
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>>158861453
just come clean you weeaboo
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>>158861281

I wish the puzzle pieces unlocked actual weapons. I'd like a catch all tool to cut barbed wire, break wooden doors and windows, and damage light vehicles.
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>>158861252
Yeah, because low skill ceiling games like BF1 sell better and casuals gotta have their yearly CoDfield + DLC tip
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>>158861434
>Boy I sure do miss the 40 different identical NATO weapons from BF4

t. No one
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>>158861617
hope you don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you sound so retarded
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>>158861617

What's the purpose of these posts? If you like BF4, play BF4. Some of us like BF1, so we're playing BF1. Is this an attempt to shame us into going back to BF4?
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>>158861673
>Boy I sure do love the fact that there are 0 good weapon sights
t. no one
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>>158861796
Welcome to WW1

>implying anyone used anything but the Coyote sight in BF4
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>>158861617
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>>158860834
>People throw gas
>Still rape them with Storm's vanilla base starting hipfire spread and half the hipfire spread increase of Trench

I welcome any gassers to try and stop me, hope you're bringing a Trench Automatico or 10-A
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>>158861782

he's recruiting for his dying game
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>>158861851
>Welcome to WW1
That's why tanks move like rally cars
And have 360 3rd person vision
And can aim their guns unrealisticly accuractely and fast
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>>158860032
>battlefield.com/companion
thx
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>>158861981
>That's why tanks move like rally cars
>And have 360 3rd person vision
>And can aim their guns unrealisticly accuractely and fast

This your first BF game? That's how vehicles have always been.
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>>158861943

What if I bring a knife? Will we engage in a gassy knife fight?
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>>158861796
ironsights are the best sights
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>>158862095
You're using a "realism" argument, and then dismissing realism
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>>158861617
>Any Battlefield at all
>Requiring skill

Haha sure kid go back to BF4 and imagine it takes skill.
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>>158861943
>kill someone with a worse gun
>worse gun must be better because I can kill people with it

how are you so stupid
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>>158862175
The ironsights in BF1 are authentic, how they handle is not realistic. Please step away from your PC and kindly kill yourself.
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>>158861617
Bf1 is the future friend. There is nothing that can change your mind apparently so I am going to revel knowing you're so ass blasted

Also
>low skill ceiling
>implying bf was anything other then that from AT LEAST bf3 on
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>>158862329
I think you mean BC2
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>>158861751
I don't expect anyone who spent $130 on a game to admit they're playing a casual piece of shit. People will deny the truth until the very end in the name of loss aversion, as evidenced by this thread.
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>>158862095
He's arguing realism. Ignore him.
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>>158862118
If it's anything like my experiences, you'll flail at me a few times trying to get the kill animation while I execute a counter attack perfectly on first try

Fuck the stupid melee system in this game
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>>158862275
BC2 has a higher skill ceiling than BF1

I don't have to tap fire anything in BF1
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>>158862519
>BC2 has a higher skill ceiling than BF1

>Everyone had to use Magnum rounds to be competitive

ayy lmao
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>>158862472
your argument is defeating yourself

can you post your stats by the way? the skill ceiling is supposedly so low, even you must have reached it

you must be top of the leaderboards right?
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>>158862472
>spending that much

Jokes on you. Bought from some dong on craigs list for 25 bucks and am waiting for newegg deals on premium. I am having a blast at a discount and also I AM HAVING A BLAST.
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>>158862630
and?
>>
Wow, either these threads are fucking dead or filled to the brim with pants-on-head retarded shitposting.

Good job boys.
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>>158862198
They don't, but BF4 was at least better in regard to this trash.

>>158862329
As the poster above said, Battlefield has always been low skill garbo, but BF1 takes the cake. It's true, though, BF1 is the future. Casuals taking over the industry has been a thing for 10 years now. I'm not shocked, just disappointed because it affects any of us who used to enjoy more challenging and rewarding games, something the children of today know nothing about. And god help you if you're over the age of 30 and cucked by this modern industry.
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>>158862494

At least I'll die choking on mustard gas.
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>>158862779
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>>158862674
I was fortunate enough to learn in alpha what a piece of trash it was.
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>>158862876
what an argument!
let me tell you how arguments work

You say what is wrong ie. "Everyone used magnum ammo", and then say why that is bad "it used up a slot"
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>>158862757
I'm sorry $25 means that much to you, anon.
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>>158862838
Name ONE reason why older Battlefield games supposedly had a higher skil lceiling than BF1.
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>>158862805
Generals always have pompous shitheads/v posters in its early stages. Just gotta deal with them till the run off to their other generals.
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>>158863205
Lower first shot spread, lower overall spread in general.

BF1 is just spray and pray shit.
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>>158863205
Hipfire spread and recoil is non-existent
Suppression doesn't exist
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>>158863360

I shudder to imagine the shitposting when For Honor comes.
>>
is it worth "upgrading" to the cuck version of the game? Got a $900 bonus at work and I really don't have anything to spend on, paid all my bills and car for the next two months, so I'd like to spend at least $100 on something that isn't food
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>>158863006
nice of you to out yourself as an ignorant retard, saves me the trouble

go play your shit dead game
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>>158863205
NO Spread gain
NO Recoil gain
ONLY Flat recoil
>>
>battlefield 4 babbies crying about battlefield 1 being low skill

why dont you go back to your dead game lol

remember to ignore 95% of the identical guns!
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>>158863478

You'd just be paying for promises EA might not deliver on. Save you money, anon. Spend wisely.
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>>158863480
I will. I refuse to play low skill games like MOBAs, card games and neo FPS games like BF1, CSGO and Overwatch that are meant to blunt skilled player actions to make it more inclusive to bad players just because they're played by more noskill retards.
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>>158863478
I don't see why you wouldn't in that situation tbqh
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>>158863696
Rather 4 good guns for each class than 1 desu
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>>158863407
>guns actually dont have a 10 foot hit radius when hip firing anymore

And thank god. This is and always was a dumb idea.
>>
>>158863620
>>158863418
>>158863407
>BF3 babbys that don't remember BF before Bad Company

wew
>>
Why don't they just add the tanker/pilot guns to other classes?
>>
Easiest way to destroy 3 vehicles with K bullets?
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>>158863478
>not having Real hobbies to spend discretionary income

Anon...
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>>158863854
>Game is low skill
>dont you know it was always low skill

So you're admitting its lower skill
>>158863971
Boat map
Camp their boats
Finish with boolet
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>>158863696
I too hate too much content.

I'm glad EA/DICE really cut the fat on games like Hardline, Battlefront and Battlefield 1. I'm a casual player so I just want to pick a class, hop in and start shooting on my favorite map without having to do much thinking. I don't have to go to Symthic and study any bullshit charts or find optimal builds, I can just play the way I want to play, it just works.
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>>158863814
Then why the fuck are you posting in /bfg/ out of all places?

How stupid are you?
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>>158863971
Transport vehicles are a two shot if i'm not mistaken
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>>158863814
>no cod in there

So your argument is absolutely and utterly invalid.

Go back to arena shooters then and leave the future to "shitters" you literaly opinionated neck beard.
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>>158863814
You're actually retarded
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>>158863814
you are actually stating the skill ceiling difference between bf1 and bf4 is as large as a card game despite them being incredibly similar games

are all people in your third world area this retarded?
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>>158864017
>So you're admitting its low skill

BF has always been low skill and high teamwork. In BF3/4 an engineer being the uber class with access to every kind of weapon and lock on AT weapons was a terrible game design. It attracted CoD babbies, just look at this thread "muh skill".
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>>158864249
So you're admitting its lower skill than BC2/3/4
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>>158864134
>>158864148
>>158864162
>>158864237
>all these buttblasted casuals, too angry to admit the truth

It's kinda funny, but mostly sad because these are the people who have literally killed the industry.

It's okay though, it's a cyclical thing. In another 10 years, there are going to be games so dumbed down and so casual that these children are going to be clamoring for the 'old days' where a fucking card game was considered esports.

May video games rest in peace. All hail the almighty dollar.
>>
>>158864134
Its either
>bf4 kiddy sad his stats are now irrelevant
Or
>just some shit poster with/v/ rage pissing and moaning
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>>158864429
Or
>some child who grew up on Minecraft defending his brand new, inclusive SJW shooter who hasn't even learned about WW1 in school yet

member when 4chan was 18+?

I member!
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Why is the MG15 Storm so good lads.
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>>158864338
Those games gave you the illusion of skill by giving players full auto no recoil rape weapons ontop of destructive anti vehicle weapons. Because they wanted the CoD babby audience, which apparently worked cause you're here shit posting.
>>
>>158864424
Literally go back to/v/.
>>
the levels of forced unfunny memes on the battlefield twitter account are unreal. i just want status updates on updates/dlc/servers you pricks.
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>>158864424
Everybody here agrees that the BF series is kinda casual and always was, fuck off shitposter.
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>>158864424
>hurr buttblasted casuals
can you stay on /v/ and not squirm into actual boards with people in them, you halfwit mouthbreathing retard? nothing you have said has had any backup, it's all you memespouting and dropping your low education opinions that come from a terrible player that played the game for 5 minutes and is too poor to buy it, so has to convince himself bf4 is better
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>>158864592
Automatico Trench is love. Automatico Trench is life.
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Why do so many people have fucking weed references in their names/emblems?
I know I shouldn't but it makes me rage like a motherfucker.
For what purpose is this done?
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>>158864590
>4chan
>EVER being 18+
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>be scout
>use flare
>get shitton of points
>plus learn where enemy is

Why don't people do this more?
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>>158864590
We were talking about gameplay aspects, nobody even mentioned anything about historical inaccuracy.
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>>158864649
Ok, so there is less skill in BF1, got it
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>>158864649
Give use one example of a game with a high skill ceiling beshides bf4?
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>>158864592
I am respectfully informing you that the mg15 storm is not very good, and you should use the bar trench.

http://symthic.com/bf1-compare?BAR_1918_Trench_vs_MG15_N.A._Storm
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>>158864679
I've actually heard nothing but how killing the skill ceiling actually makes it 'more skillful'.

It's like CSGO all over again. In fact, I'm convinced that all the kids bored of CSGO are now playing BF1, which would make a lot of sense.
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>>158864667
You don't want funny memes??? Dude!! Battlefield memes are really good! No one cares about updates or info right??
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>>158864838
I actively place flares on chokepoints/entraces on certain maps for that purpose. People get scared whe nthey are suddenly set on fire (even though it doesn't do much damage) and are easy to pick off.
>>
>losing as a defender on oil of empires

Is this even possible? even when my team has been total dogshit we have managed to win comfortably by the final stage
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>>158864851
>>158864880
>>158864940
>BF4 has a high skill ceiling now

Amazing
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>>158864682
Pro players like JecK agree, it's indisputably the lowest skill ceiling Battlefield to date. Of course, the truth is drowned out by the sea of casuals that have ruined the industry. It's really not surprising. Statistically, you shitters are in good company.
>>
>>158864838
Same reason why people dont throw ammo boxes and med packs
>>
None of the BF games have remotely high skill ceilings.
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>>158865108
BF1 has a lower one, yes
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>>158864847
The gameplay is confirmed shit, what's left to talk about but the shitty players behind the purchase?
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>>158865108
I literally LITERALLY, FUCKING LITERALLY asked you to give me an example of what YOU THINK.

Give me an example?
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>>158865254
Making it to the special olympics still means your retarded. Regardless of what your family says.
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>>158865108
It doesn't, it's just that it's higher than BF1. It's been dropping ever since Hardline hit in the almighty quest for the dollar.
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>>158864794
dude w33d LMAO
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>>158865191
>pro battlefield players

Nice meme.
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>>158865385
Do you like the fact that even LMGs can just hipfire from 20ms away and get kills

I mean, im using the automatico storm and getting triples without even going ADS at people who I would completely miss in 4
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>>158865191
Even if one guy thinks so, the amount the skill ceiling has dropped is massively lower than the whistleblowing hand waving shitfit you're currently engaged in.

Someone who compares bf1's skill ceiling to a card game needs to seriously kill themselves, that's some 90 IQ shit.
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>>158865234
Agreed. BF1 has the lowest to date, however.
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>>158865347
Except the gameplay is good. Too bad you can't enjoy a video game anymore.
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>>158865578
>Lying on the internet

No one believes you, the sheer ROF of fire makes it impossible to hip fire more than 10-15 meters. With the laser sight and grip in BF4 it was easier to hip fire than any trench variant in this game.
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>>158865578

>oh no my game doesn't rely on ads anymore how will i cope???

why are you complaining a game does something different?
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>>158865578
Like a real gun should probably do?

Dont mind at all. Thanks to the retards that are playing though I am doing fine with the medic weapons and bayonet charging.
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>>158865668
:^)
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>>158862272
You're retarded

Better hipfire isn't going to matter for shit if you're going to be fighting within 5-10m, which is how most gas cqc engagements go, you specifically use trench to extend your hipfire accuracy and range further beyond that as you mentioned

I know this is painful for you to understand, but accessibility and ease of use can trump stat increases that cannot be made up by player skill (hipfire spread). Why do you think all the MLG tryhards used the Muzzle Break/Angled Grip combo in BF4 so much that they nerfed it? Because even though it messed with your spread and you missed out on potential benefits of other weapon attachments, it made weapons recoilless laser beams at the ranges they functioned (TDM/Domination)l

You can cry "but its BAD" all you want about Storm, it won't stop it from being a perfectly legitimate choice especially since it also reduces HORIZONTAL recoil as well, the kind that you can't actually control
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>>158864905
BAR only has 20 rounds though.
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>>158865578
>lying

Jesus christ, /v/ has molded you into a perfect little minion.
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>>158865915
>>158865736
>Lying
Im getting hipfire kills with storm LMGs like from across the (bottom of) Amiens bridge, try it
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>>158865590
>pro players don't matter because they're in a minority

I think that really sums up this game, the high amount of sales and the low skill ceiling, doesn't it? If that's not telling, I don't know what is. Remember when everyone believed the world was flat? That faggot geographer down the street is fucking retarded he thinks we're on a ball lmao XD
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>>158844137
They shouldn't be nerfed. Infantry should not survive a direct hit from a tank round, and hitting near them should obviously fuck them up due to explosive force. If I detonated the equivalent explosives of a tank shell impact next to a human being, they are most likely going to die from massive internal injuries assuming the force did not outright rip their body apart.
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>>158866037
I one hip fired a guy from far away once too, guess that means BF1 is casual.
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>its a /bfg/ argues about skill ceiling episode

I only thought I missed this general, evidently.
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>>158866037
Then go play something else if you dont like the satisfaction of killing new idiots.

Honestly you sound like the kind of nerd that would be complaining about the game being broken if you were on the other end.
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>>WWI game
>> Bot being forced to huddle in shallow niches in the walls of a trench for 6 hours in Verdun because of constant drum-fire from German artillery that puts sonmuch shrapnel in the air it mogjt as well be solid
>> Not poking your head out when it lets up round noon and the call tonassume positions for a German infantry offensive comes down the line
>> Bot being totally rused by the superior German who immediately starts shelling you again now that you and your dumb Frog and Tommy cuckbrothers are out in the open

I'll never knownthe feel of being outsmarted by Germans...
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>>158866335
BF players from the pre BC days know the game was casual and revolved around team work. Its the CoD babbys that were brought in from BF3/4 that shit up this general.
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>>158866317
I bayoneted 2 people in a row once. Maybe I should join shitposter's side about the game being to easy?
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I wish they'd buff the slug shotgun accuracy slightly. The gun is otherwise fine, but I feel as though the rounds do not perform properly at medium range now and then.
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If you're having fun with the game then what the fuck does it even matter.

If you don't like the game then why even bother.
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>people are actually defending a WW1 reskin of SW:Battlefront
No
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>>158866071
>geographer
Please just stop... you're either a bad troll or your IQ is legit below 60
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>>158866702
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>>158866727
Ad hominem, huh? Anything else to add before you concede?
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Welp 1,000 deaths

Well I'm making my way to a 2 kdr
I'll hopefully try to stay in the 1000 death range . I usually only get single digit deaths. Always that blimp operation
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>>158866302
A explosion's shockwave is essentially blunt trauma, it won't rip anything apart on it's own, that's the shrapnel.
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>>158866702
>why even bother

Have you spent more then 3 montha on /v/? It changes people, turns them into the shitposter we have that just HAS TO voice his opinion. The worst ones usually break away from their shitboxes and come to the generals.

>>158866709
10/10 great meme. Gold star.
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>>158866702
You tell me. Why would you get so riled up if you're enjoying the game?

It's probably because deep down you know it's a casual piece of shit.

It's okay, most people don't have the balls to admit it.
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Do you actually unlock better shit?

I doubt anything can beat the Automatico or Model 10 for Assault for example.
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>>158866709
>reskin
It's an overhaul, it's what battlefield is now and it has nothing to do with battlefront, battlefront just happened to be the first game they made with their new design. Next battlefield, whatever you want to call it 5 or 2, will look the same.
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>>158867075

Impeccable logic.
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>>158867029
>Have you spent more then 3 montha on /v/? It changes people, turns them into the shitposter we have that just HAS TO voice his opinion. The worst ones usually break away from their shitboxes and come to the generals.

And yet here you are, doing the same thing.
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>>158867075
I wasn't part of the discussion at all, just saw some shitposters getting all worked up over a video game and posted that simple fucking post. I don't give a shit that it's casual, I know there are far more casual games out there and there are far more hardcore games out there as well. I'm enjoying the game and I don't really give a shit about what you think to be honest.

>>158867029
>Have you spent more then 3 montha on /v/?
Why would anyone put himself through that?
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>>158867075
This might sound like a surprise to you, but the generals are usually visited by people who enjoy the games of a certain franchise and play them regularly.
It's only natural that people here have a favorable view of the latest entry.
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>>158867324
>still visibly riled up
>incessantly insisting that they don't care without adding anything to the discussion

Who are you trying to convince, kiddo?
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>>158867418
>BUT WHY? WHY DO YOU LIKE THE GAME REEEEEEEEEE
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Battlefield games have always had spread
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>>158867504
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>>158867537
Except BF1
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>>158867418
You don't say.

Even though he was a weird hypocrite, you should take that other posters advice and close the thread if you can't handle the criticism of a product you supposedly enjoy.

Or just stay and pretend it doesn't bother you like he's actually doing.
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>Everyone hated Battlefront (rightfully so)

Battlefield 1
>Same no-recoil, no-spread design as battlefront
>Everyone loves it
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>>158867632
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>>158867785
>criticism of a product

>shitposting is criticism

You're welcome to start a thread on /v/ im sure they'd love to hear what you have to say about BF1.
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>>158861617

>low skill ceiling

literally the entire bf series is low skill, stop lying to yourself, bf4 is fun and all but it doesnt deserved to be put on a pedestal.
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>>158867537
>Battlefield has always had a low skill ceiling so it's OKAY that they lower it even more

Finally someone that gets it
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Finally
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>>158867873
It has no spread gain friend ,learn what spread means
Spread can mean flat spread or spread gain
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>>158861152
lel doesn't surprise me at all that the faggot throwing this fit is an aussie
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>>158867785
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>>158867989
Damn man. How did you get past the flying section? I keep dying from the shit controls.
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>>158867963
>BF1 out selling BF4 and Hardline combined on release

>muh skill
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>>158867949
Props for finally admitting it.
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>>158868105
Which part?
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>>158868164
The first one right after you steal the plane. Where you're supposed to follow the other guy.
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>>158868134
>both have low skill

>But my low skill is obviously superior
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>>158868128
>if morons like, that must mean its good
I guess Grown Ups 2 is good then!
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>>158867785
Except I have criticism of the game, for example I think that the campaign is dreadfully dull and that some maps are below average.

Calling everyone a casual because they enjoy BF1 is not criticism.
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>>158865915
>lying

The hipfire range of the weapons in this game is beyond unreal. As in unreal tournament unreal.
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>>158868128
Yeah, there's a direct correlation of video game popularity and skill ceiling. It's not really surprising that most people are attracted to the easily accessible things.
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>Argonne forest
>3 fucking sniper faggots in my squad alone
Nope. I'm out.
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>>158868426
>there's a direct correlation of video game popularity and skill ceiling

>CSGO and Dota 2 most popular games on Steam

Great logic there lad.
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When the fuck did people start appreciating bf4 so suddenly? Where were these people when we were playing bf4? Is shitposting about bf4's "gameplay superiority" the new hot meme?
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ANy idea how to play medic? or better yet what medic rifle is the best?
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>>158868721
you're on 4chan, everything new sucks and the previous generation is always good.
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Ok I want all of you fags define what "skill" in video games means right now.
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>>158868723
How can you post if you can't read?
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>>158868721
They lose their 40 copy cat ARs/Carbines, lock on weapons, and helis in BF1. They are exposed as shitters in BF1 and must complain here.
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>>158868312
I can call people who play a low skill ceiling game casual all I want.

The criticism is that a multiplayer game has a low skill ceiling. The worst part is, it's low *because* publishers make more money on inclusive games. A clear conflict of interest for any true video game enthusiast/hobbyist. Look at any medium or hobby and you can see similar issues. Don't like the opinions of elitists? Go join a moderated hugbox like Reddit.

Don't come crying when games are too dumbed down for your tastes in the future. You reap what your sow.
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>>158868305
it's split into 2 parts and you don't have to do both in a row. Just keep trying at the first part and when you pass and fail the 2nd part reload the checkpoint
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>>158868723
>Revive
>Throw medpacks out for teammates.
Now you know how to play medic.
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>>158868721
Memberberries
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>>158868506
It is because CSGO and DotA 2 are low skill ceiling.
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Is there anything more dirty than the fire bomber?

>on a good hit, 5+ kills
>some faggot attack plane tails you
>jump in hind gunner and pummel his face off
>repair
>continue rape
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>>158868836
How much more effectively a better player performs
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>operations
>end of round
>lags out and shows nothing but loading icons
>mfw an hour+ of operations only to know nothing about how we did
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>>158869039
There we have it folks. /v/ is here guess theres not enough threads there to shit up.
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>>158868879
Post your stats, so-called "elitist"
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>>158868723
- Throw medpacks if wound players are nearby
- Revive killed players
There. You're now better than 99% of the other medic players.
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>finally killed someone with the memelibri

Now I can say I did it and never have to use it ever again
>>
are snipers ruining the game? should there be a limit on how many scouts there can be active at once?
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Suez is the worst fucking map I have played in any fps ever, dice have managed to one up operation metro in terms of shittiness
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>>158869229
Shitters will always be shitters, no matter what class they pick. By picking recon they will at least act as bait for enemy snipers who will keep their eyes off the rest of the team.
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>>158869119

He wont because hes shitposting and you're giving him more (yous), don't take the bait any further.
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>>158869119
You have no counter argument to my solid logic so you're desperately looking for a way to discredit me on an anonymous image board.

Tough luck, pal.
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>>158869414

kek

>>158869398
>>
If a 32 player team was composed of only assaults, how badly would the enemy team lose?
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>>158869398
>>158869483
Try an actual argument. You can't because there isn't one.
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>Lawrence of Arabia betrayed THIS

What the fuck was his problem?
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>>158869398
>shit posts into oblivion
>afraid to ultimately confirm his point if he is as good as he says

/v/ everyone.
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>>158869518
3 assaults, 1 medic and 1 support in each 5man squad would be optimal.
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>>158869570

You know, your opinion could probably be validated if you could post your stats to let us know that you are competent. How could you argue bf4 is better in terms of a game if youre trash at it? You cant :^) .

Even worse, you could be a console shitter just funposting here for all we know.
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>>158867989
Is there actually a reward for that?
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>>158869758

Yes, that makes more sense. Too bad it's hard to build a team like that.
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>>158869725
>not having a TRUMP sticker
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>>158869596
> there's an implied rape scene in the female character story line

Seriously why?
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>>158869836
Getting all the codex and manuals for a war story gets you a skin for a particular gun

Getting all the codex and manuals for all of the war stories gets you the Black Bess skin for the landship in multiplayer
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>>158869836
Shitty skins for weapons that you most likely never use
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>>158869978
Is there a list of which skin you get from each story?
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>>158869975

Because war is hell?
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>>158870238
>I'm alive in the year 2016 and I don't know google
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desu this game doesnt seem like its finished...
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>>158869119
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>>158869776
Red herrings are meant to distract from the actual argument. It is a sign of weakness in debate. If you can't provide a counter argument to my original point, then you concede that it is sound logic.
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>>158870372
>2016
>not wanting to be spoonfed

get with the times grandpa
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>>158870378

>1.79 k/d
>1.08 KPM
>only 54% winrate

like pottery, you are trash.
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>>158870584
>don't use tanks ever
>Don't have inflated SPM, KPM or k/d
wowzers
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>>158870710
>>158870710
>>158870710
>>158870710
NEW BREAD
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>>158870642
Those are average stats even for a non vehicle player.
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>>158870642

>he still dies anyways as infantry even though the TTK in that game is stupidly high
>he doesnt win games enough
>he doesnt medic train with friends

keep trying lmao
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>>158856330
Hotchkiss M1909 Benét–Mercié
>>
Fucking hell I'm awful at this game

A lot of there time I spend trying to destroy the behemoth because no one else does
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>>158870378
>>158870584
>>158870757
>he posts his own shitty stats to try and discredit me

Battlefield shitters, ladies and gents.
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>>158869356
It's not THAT bad, but it's still pretty bad.
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le buttmad kiddos
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>>158869229
What's wrong with snipers? Why can't you let us simulate late 1914 and early 1915 combat REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>158873434
2
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>>158869356
Suez is good on pretty much every mode except conquest. Great even, on operations and rush.

It's like they made it for operations and rush and then completely forgot to make it playable in conquest.
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