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>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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reminder that poeg is a HC general for elite HC players

NO shitcrows allowed
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is 130% max life

and 200% max ES (including from int)

viable? i.e. how much ES per max life
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>>158507913
there's no such set in stone ratio if you're hybrid
just get what's most efficient wrt your pathing
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>>158507913
that max life is quite low

aim for 170+ if you're hybrid
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Why is every decent build so fucking shit and borring... Gimme something fun to play.
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>>158507913
If you're going true Hybrid, that's about right.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9A-BUjHibc
BOTW is COCKS
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>>158507974
>>158507982
>>158508000

>3 different answers
t-thanks for the variety of opinions iguess
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>>158508112
>Freezonator
>Lacerate
Interest-
>All about freeze/chill
Can't do Guardians/10
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>>158508235
You can permafreeze guardians you know.
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>>158507663
Post more ranger
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>>158508112
>Build of the Week
>Cheapest Cospri's Malice on Hardcore Essence is 275 Chaos and 3.5 Exalted on Softcore Essence
>>158508297
>All 4 Guardians have the Cannot be Chill and Cannot be Frozen modifiers
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>>158508429
I would but this is a Christian board
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ITT: hardcucks
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>>158508112
COCKS!?
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What's a CWDT?
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>>158508631
dumb slutposter
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>>158508513
Wait, yeah ur right, what the fuck was I thinking of that can be just permafrozen and killed really easily?
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>>158508643
Chris Wilson Does Testosterone
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>>158508756
Regular bosses.
Like literally anything that isn't a valuable farming goal.
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>>158507751
Kiss me
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>>158509238
kyssu :o)
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So if you want to be taken seriously in this game you should play hardcore?

That's scary though!
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>>158508643
Cast When DoT
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>>158509404
>taken seriously
>poe
LOL
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>>158509404
if you want to be taken for a serious autist then by all means.
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what's a cheap and reliable way to farm currency for low level characters that isn't dried lake?
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>>158509448
Go back.
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>>158509683
>low level characters
Why tho? Any reasonable ammount of farming will bring you to at least lvl 80.
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>>158509683
git gud
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What's the point of the portals in the Piety fight being damage-able if Piety just warps to one when it's time to switch phases anyways?
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Why doesn't GGG care anymore? ( ;´Д`)
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>>158508112
the funny thing is, theyre trying to showcase lacerate as being good for this when ST would do this 10x better
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Is it CI or LL that needs stun immunity? Is it absolutely necessary for endgame content?
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>>158366391
>FREE
>>158417000
>free
>>158458739
>free
>>158459189
>free
>>158459282
>free
>>158459428
>free
>>158464198
>free
>>158469873
>free
>>158473776
>free
>>158503598
>free
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FIVE FOR ONE
BUT WHAT IS THE ONE?
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>>158511190
drillneck
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>>158511190
Shackles of the Wretched
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>>158510775
CI needs it way more than LL because 1 HP, but it can still be pretty bad on LL.
It depends on the build, you can easily get away with no stun immunity on BV since getting stunned doesn't matter much.
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what is raider good at
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>>158512792
generating frenzy charges
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i'm done with cuckcore
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quitter
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wow new spider lair is GORGEOUS
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>>158512792
dodge builds
Frenzy stacking
pic related
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>>158512276
Actually both builds need it because they probably have the same amount of life for stun calculations
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>>158514301
what a gorgeous spider!
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>>158515101
>because they probably have the same amount of life for stun calculations
But they don't
CI has 1, LL has however much life you have.
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reminder that chris gives out shitty cosmetic skins instead of stash tabs for race prizes, because he knows you actually want stash tabs
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>>158515186
lol
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>>158515464
stun calculation is based upon how much life you would have if you weren't ci
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>>158511190
600% facebreakers
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>>158507663
Sorry I've been away for a month, but don't worry I'm back!

No hacks in OP? And we like to call this /vg/

https://github.com/TehCheat/PoEHUD

>What is poehud?
It tells you all the masters, strongboxes, trials ,ghosts etc that are in the zone. Shows locations of unique/rares/blues on maps. Also has a custom loot filter that shows you where and what droped!

>How do I change this horrible loot filter?
Three red lines top left, click it so it has a red line under it(Means it's off), honestly I never messed with it so I can't tell you how to make a "good" one.


>Will I get banned for this?
Nope, there is no anti hack!

>really? I won't get banned?

Just keep your mouth shut and head down and you will be fine.


>How do I dupe?
Find a crashing/failing server, have one person put in and out currency into a guild stash, have a 2nd person on the SAME server try to take the currency out. Enjoy free orbs!

Do not do it with an item though, those have unique id's and when the server syncs up the newest one will be deleted
>What about RMT?

zero confirmed bans besides those who keep talking about how they rmt'ed. People usally use "player auctions" for RMT needs.


Also I can post the AHK auto log out macro on low life if anyone wants
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>>158507663
where is the bow string
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>>158515886
anyone ever get banned for using poehud?
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So, I shaped Jungle as with my tier one Orb.
Does it mean that jungle is only going to drop from T5 maps right?
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>>158517074
supposedly a bunch of people got a warning years ago , once.

exilehud saw a few bannings, but that also had map hack and other stuff in it.
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>>158515886
>no bots

what a scrub
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>>158518242
>giving away free money
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>>158517720
t4+ technically
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>>158510448
>Cast a Socketed Cold Spell on Melee Critical Strike
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Wtf is wrong with the ESC economy?
Chaos:Exalted exchange rate has been going up for weeks now, a month ago it was at ~60:1, now we're at 71:1.
Other rates have been falling, when I found a Divine a couple of days ago chaos:divine was 23:1, now its 13:1.
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>>158521283
That's how the SC temp leagues have been since the premium stash tab trade update. Exalts just inflate because of price fixing lowering the value of everything else, mostly.
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>>158521283
Chaoses aren't as useful in essence due to the whole essence thing. That doesn't answer everything, though
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Don't know what bosses on overgrown ruins do cuz i shot everything on std so I never bothered to learn. So i ask for help in EHC global 820 about what they do, ask if there is any degen. Everyone tells me only chaos degen, well okay then I am CI support, don't give 1 fuck about chaos degen...and goes in rip to degen. Their hits don't hurt me, I died solely to the degen because there is no way for a support to regenerate that fast. I should've done the homework, but seriously I hate this community so much why the fuck troll ppl on global I havn't done anything to them. Uninstalling this game...
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I just got my first Sextant. I was thiking to drop it in Vaal temple, so it catches both my Shaped Jungle and Phantasmagoria
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>>158522808
smart thinking
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>>158522874
>I confused bech with Jungle
Whatever, it got into Phanatam.
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If the anon who was having problems in the California server is still here, yeah it seems the servers have been shitting up lately. I'd use Texas for now if you can, the servers seem to be unreliable.
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london just keeps randomly dying
and ggg expects yuros to race on those servers lol
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how much crit % on tree should you have for a crit ele build
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>>158523497
depends on your spell base crit desu
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>>158521565
Logically, Exalteds should get cheaper too though, since more of them are being found the farther we get into the league.
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>>158523664

my windripper it has 8.5% i think
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>>158523497
This picture is racist.
Delete it.
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>>158523872
enough to reach 60% base crit
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>>158523890
>being a jewmerican

kys
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quitting poe until next league
I have around 700c and 31 ex on essence and 250c and 11 ex on ehc. post your ign if you want it.
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Can someone invite "Your_a_big_guy" to the guild
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>>158524793
YuunaY
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>>158524793
don't believe his lies
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How many people play standard league compared to temp leagues? Is it fun to play standard?
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>>158521283
Do you shitcrows not use chaos for zana and mapping, because you don't give a fuck about map mods?
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>>158508112
What the fuck is wrong with her voice?
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our guy ziggyd is live!!
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if i have witch ele ascendancy passive that gives me +1 golem

and i have 2 ice golems socketed

can i have 2 ice golems?
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>>158526524
yes, but bonuses from the same golem don't stack
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>>158525430
That has to do more with bv being the flavor of the month than whatever whiny hardcuck jab you're trying to take at funcore desu. The only mods bv can't do is no leech and if you're CI: blood magic.
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>>158527058
"The only mods I can't do are no leech and blood magic," caws the shitcrow, as he re-enters the map to battle the boss that has killed him three times.
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>>158527865
"I don't let a video game dictate my self worth" "caws" the "shitcrow"
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>this post will surely guarantee a (uoY) from those pesky shitcrows!
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>>158527865
"I place self value and self respect on a video game" says the hardcuck.
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>>158527865
>>158528225
you are literally the only person here who cares at all how another person plays their games
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>>158528286
some people are millionaires from playing video games
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>>158528434
retard
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>>158528589
retard
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>>158528497
Not disagreeable, but they also didn't make it from PoE and nobody ever will.
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>>158527865
>tfw i literally lost an entire map to one boss
i'm ashamed of myself
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what's a good tooltip for ED for a non LL build? 25k enough?
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>>158528434
"Why aren't my chaos worth anything," asks the shitcrow, as he defeats the map boss with his Cast on Death setup.
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"why don't girls like me" asks the hardcuck, as he starts another 72 hour shitposting and rerolling marathon
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>>158529243
Who cares about how much chaos are worth when every single thing you buy is an asset, not a cost. Learn some economics you basement dwelling fuck.
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>shitcrow xD
>hardcuck xD
this pathetic general is really struggling to not become /v/ tier
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>>158529746
If you pay attention to who instigates it, you understand the root of the problem.
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>>158529746
>>158529746
literally both modes are viable and enjoyable and cater to different personality types

anyone who says otherwise has weaponized autism and you should just filter them
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>>158529746
Elevating itself to the level of /v/ is the dream of every thread on /vg/, which is a ghetto of attention whores and degenerates.
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why did we stop having fun
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Hi all,

It’s clear there's a wide spectrum of opinions in this on going discussion. However, please refrain from targeting one another with comments that antagonize others in an obnoxious manner as it is against our Code of Conduct.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzuhVOivxNE
is this guy the new ghudda
his builds are so good
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Who the FUCK do I have to whisper to get a guild invite right now
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>>158530824
does herald of ash's burn scale with fire damage or anything?
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>>158531409
lol
use your brain for 2 seconds
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>>158530824
added to my ignore list
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>>158530824
I don't get it, does the ignite stack or something?
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>>158530824
>12 grand spectrums
you could play fucking lightning tendrils with that much currency and it'd do t16
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/poeg/ is a hardcore general

you are free to be a crow, just not here
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>>158532130
wrong
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>>158532208
>720% increased elemental damage
Actually, that's quite correct.

12 grand spectrums is between 800 and 1000 chaos. You can make any build in the game work that well with that much damage / currency.
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>>158532332
1000 chaos is one item slot for some builds

you can spend 2/3 of that on flasks alone
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>>158532441
In no way does that invalidate my point. The builds you bring up are not cost efficient, and the more direct point is that they are quite capable of doing things harder than t16s.
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>>158532332
wrong again
you do no understand how a tree with 12 jewel sockets works, nor do you understand how one would scale a spell like tendrils so no, you can't just get 12 spectrums and plug in any spell you want and expect it to work
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>>158531541
it's a secondary effect created by the death of a monster
it's quite likely that it is considered to have been cast by the corpse and thus inherit no damage bonuses from the player (aside from the damage from the hit)
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>>158532808
retard
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>>158533202
sociopath
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>>158533472
i prefer "nigress"
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>>158534413
no trannies
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>>158534664
i'm actually a carburetor, thank you very much
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>game server lost contact with the realm

Wait what even is this
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>0-4 play poe
>5-9 watch weeb shit animu
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adopt a dog desu
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>>158522670

there's a fire degen
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>making phys bow build, ranger
>have perfectly rolled attack vinktar's
Opinions on whether I should I go straight to pathfinder, or maybe should I go with deadeye till 80 or so?
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>>158534910
anything good this season
the last good shows i watched were rakugo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4nAnJAgfE8 and beleted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7814WeR0Xzo
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>>158535419
i think you should respec your ascendancy every weekend
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>>158535847
that doesn't sound too bad, could experiment with high frenzy raider
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>>158533472
global rule 2
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Is there any reason not to slap poison support on every skill I'm using since it scales with all the other shit anyways?
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how could GGG think traps were a good thing

>60 ping
>jumps to 140
>rubberband and stutter through lab all day
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>>158536446
you aren't doing physical or chaos damage
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>>158536563
>my connection is bad therefore I'll blame the game design
lol
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>>158536563
traps are fine, laggy connections are shit, and the main problem is they decided to put most environmental interaction into "le trap zones" instead of integrating it throughout the game
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>>158536568
Oh alright, is there any indicator for that outside reading the wiki that I'm missing here since the gem just says "poisons on hit".
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Wrong
Retard
Free
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>>158536748
lol
you're so stupid jesus christ
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>>158536748
dood i have no idea what any of the gems in this game actually say on their labels
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should I bother using essences? I've got a lot but I doubt they'll make anything better than my current gear...
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>>158536901
then why didn't you fucking stay in standard
retard
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>>158536630
who are you quoting?

meanwhile GGG is disconnecting the DC server every 5 minutes along with California.
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>People still playing this league
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>>158537201
>posting in a general of a game you don't play
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>>158536978
so I could make good gear with essence? now that I have good gear what do I use them for?
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>>158537201
who are you quoting?
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>>158537240
if you're too retarded to figure it on your own, don't expect me to spoonfeed you
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>>158537396
Chris Wilson
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>>158536991
>GGG is disconnecting the DC server every 5 minutes along with California.
yeah evil evil GGG is pulling the plug on the server! bad GGG! bad GGG! sit GGG! you go to the penalty box for messing with the server!
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>>158536748
Poison damage is based off the initial hit's phys+chaos, similar to how ignite damage is based off the original hit's fire damage.
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>>158537942
stop spoonfeeding idiots who can't be bothered to look up basic mechanics
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>>158538027
>bothered to look up BASIC mechanics

yeah I mean it's not like there's a tutorial in the game that explains everything right, or any directories or in-game guides or what not
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>>158538194
this game already uses too much memory
read the wiki
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>>158538569
>uses too much memory

retard
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>>158538569
>>158538992
stupids
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>make crit shield charge build
>flying through maps at incredible hihg speed
>suddenly reflect mobs tucked away and hiding in every other pack
>fling body into groups of enemies and one shot myself
this game is not fun anymore
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>>158539528
You made the classic mistake of trying to have fun in PoE.
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>>158539905

Yea, he made a pretty amateurish mistake. Can happen to everyone tough.
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>>158539528
>unstoppable force meets unmovable wall
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>>158539528
>>158540276
I didn't get that far in the game yet, how are you supposed to counter that? Some kind of Immunity
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>>158540721
Nope, GGG only introduces bullshit to stop you having fun and never gives an option to work around it.
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>>158539528
>Things that never happened
You posted this shit before and it wasn't funny the first time around. Physical damage can be reduced by Fortify, Armor, Basalt, damage conversion etc. (or even IC if it's somehow triggered before the hit). There's no way you can one shot yourself on a single target unless you are talking about the pre-nerfed Racecourse guy.
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>>158540856

If only there were options to work around reflect.

Like Sibils lament, slayer ascendancy, elementalist ascendancy, resistances, armour, evasion, block, lifeleech with vaal pact....

Man, if only GGG would do something about reflect which is a total fun ruiner right now.

Implying reflect has not been a complete non issue for the last 3 leagues at least.
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>>158541028

Oh damn your actually right. If it was phys dmg which facebreakers mostly is. He would need a 30k hit before any reductions at 5k hp.
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>>158540721
Deal less damage, or in smaller increments. The meta is really based doing a shit ton of moderate hits for high damage. Going high damage is rip city if you're elemental
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>>158541779
>non-issue

Only Slayer and Elementalist can do reflect X maps reliably, everyone else - even with capped and plus max resistance % get fucked by it. Sibyl's by itself is also fucking trash.

>hit a dozen mobs at once
>instantly blow up from reflect

Sure reflect rares people can handle but whole fucking maps of reflect is fucking retarded.
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>>158541779
People in this thread will never know what its like to shoot split shot offscreen and 1 shot yourself to a reflect pack / thorns shrine you couldn't see. Kids these days are weak #bringbackreflect
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>>158542225
>what is Essence Drain
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Why do difficulties give a resistance penalty? Isn't that arbitrary to the actual difficulty and just gives you a stat-check?
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>>158542225
>tfw Necro
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>>158542225
fireball elementalist here
reflect maps ruin my day
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>>158542225

Diversify your damage bruh.

Also all chaos builds can do all reflect X maps reliably, and poison builds as well.

Also that king of the forest guy had a nice solution for X reflect maps.

Oh right, also 100% vinktars uptime builds can do those maps.
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Is there even any viable build using this?
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>>158543287
Best use is in straight maps as a weapon swap for a single mob kill then swap back for easy Rampage.
Other than that it sucks. Facebreakers would much prefer having a shield over losing both slots.
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>>158541028
ur a dumbass
>>158542182
this

crit shield charge fucker here and I had to literally make myself weaker damage wise to prevent getting one shot every single fucking map
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>>158543727
link your profile so I can laugh at you
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>>158543727

You either have literally no hp, or you are lying.

I think you would need like 40k damage per hit to 1 shot yourself with 5k hp. And 5k is nothing.

Isnt fucking mathil running a crit facebreakers build with less than 5k? And i havent seen him one shot himself yet.
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>>158544521
mathil's build is non crit
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>>158544598

I dunno, i somehow got the idea that its crit.
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>>158544598
>>158544830
btfo
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>>158536563
>tfw I've literally DC'd/freezescreened in the middle of traps twice now (didnt die tho), but never when doing maps

Kiwi genocide when?
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Hey /poeg/ any reason not to corrupt an epic ring/amulet you don't give a fuck about?
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>>158546849
There is no reason to do anything in the greater scheme of things, we're all gonna die in the end
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>>158547225
Yeah, I agree, gues I'll just call quits on the game
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>>158547403
https://youtu.be/zZ3fjQa5Hls

fuckin nerd you don't even know how to meme
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When does gear with loads of gem sockets start dropping for good? So far all the shit I see with more than 3 on weapons, 2 on boots/gloves/head and 4 on chest armor have all been for other classes. Kinda annoying.
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>>158547501
its like lvl 50 for 6 sockets on armour / weapons but don't expect alot of them
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when people use voltaxic or windripper do they just ignore the physical damage/nodes

what's the point of that...
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>>158547501
>>158547732

And then there are links to consider...

Don't even bother thinking a 6 link will ever drop in your lifetime. 5 links are hard enough to find for me.
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>run five or six maps
>run out of t8s and 7s, run a couple 6s
>no amulets at all during all of this
i am bored
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>>158530403
Haha no
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https://youtu.be/z9A-BUjHibc

LOL
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this build is so fun (only level 72 in webm hence the beach)
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>>158546849
a very good reason, namely vaal orbs. something that can be useful but is cheap and you don't care about like an anvil can be corrupted, but don't just corrupt every ring and amulet you come across.

A better use of vaal orbs is to buy disciplines and corrupt them, can just print money by selling vaal disciplines at 5c (EHC price). That and corrupting every viridian for chill of corruption and sac harvest, but those are less reliable than vaal discipline.
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>>158549429
Thanks for a serious answer
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is mind over matter the SHITTIEST node in the game?

as many times as i've tried to make it work, it's literally ONLY viable with EB
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>physical reflect enemies that explode on death
is melee the worst way to play this game or what?
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>>158549668
What's so hard about equipping Pledge of Hands and Essence Worm

It's true that it's shit though. GGG is fucking retarded, what else is new. The game STILL hasn't recovered from the absolute shitfest that was Awakening """balance""" patches.
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>>158550095
i've tried it with hybrid flasks and insane amounts of +mana/regen and you still just get ur mana bar depleted and end up crying as you take 30% more damage on your flimsy life
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>>158550810
Just use a fucking mana flask jesus
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>>158539528
Getting cucked by single reflect mobs in 2016

Nicebuild
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>>158550095
>6 points into mana nodes
>barely noticeable regen
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>>158539528
>suddenly reflect mobs
>mobs
>s

is this bait?
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>>158544598
>mathil build
>non crit

that cocksucker uses facebreakers in every build, takes all the crit multi in the tree, then just plays in standard and talks about how his new full crit build actually does damage.
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If I'm building around Infernal Blow as Scion, what Ascendancy class should I spec into?
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>>158551445

But that does make sense. Full crit builds usually do damage.

I'm usually more impressed that he manages to get 5k hp almost all the time.
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When the fuck is the new league going to start I need to schedule my shit
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>>158551445
he has two facebreaker shield chargers and the only one I was familiar with was his slayer whose build is all over the place

I didn't know he had a rigwald's fb charger and I'm not still not sure why he would go for crit on a berserker
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>>158551882

more dmg?
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>>158551849
>Perandus on the 4th
>Prophecy on the 3rd
>Essence on the 2nd

December 1st would be a good bet.
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>>158552038
But would it not make more sense to take a class closer to both crit and claw nodes?
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>>158552254
Forgot they all launch on Fridays. Probably December 2nd.
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>>158552331

Not really, berserker literally gives you FREE dmg. And mathils builds go over literally the whole tree anway.
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Give me one reason why a Starforge Poison Crit Assassin wouldn't be the highest dps in the game
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>>158551882
he takes FB on his fireball build too, purely for the crit multi.
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>>158552651

Because a perfectly rolled starforge is weaker than a perfectly rolled Exquisite blade.
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Should I practice gitting gud at racing

0-4 no
5-9 yes
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s-so i'm planning out a hybrid es/ev windripper build and it seems v. strong on paper

>Defense
170% maximum life
170% energy shield
210% evasion
50% reduced elemental damage taken
42% elemental resist

>Crit
430% crit chance
150% multiplier
75% accuracy

>Dmg
40% penetration
100% cold dmg
190% ele dmg
55% lightning dmg
35% physical dmg
60% projectile dmg

>Etc
overcharge
arrow dancing
2 golems

124 nodes. what should i adjust?
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>>158549260
I it viable?
I am looking for a build for the next league
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>>158554110
>uses not one but two cospri's

good fucking luck using this next league, unless you mean one month into next league
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>>158553781
correction: reduced REFLECTED elemental damage taken
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>>158553781
why would you not post the tree
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>>158551508
pls help
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>>158554516
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAN9v74_IzMEzhs4hdluvFHURlhM1EYFjpxekGdfdRlb6dvcx-qCfb_I51CL0fyswfP_eJP3nVFFHuXyMC15FkvP6642_BbVlTZUuJpVh4lVLYqxsjJ2qNj3rYxEvKwoQe4w2xIKJ01SubAtwUioLpr6NfU2SnsQj9taKZ6B_xkp9XfLjn9sah3YOSA2NpyummZD6kyeTlTW5EVBtGed0SVFJsa0zR3531702sKuO6fDVfdKhL1F0Bx7cjVRH1Affbd-K7LBtbIrw18--ikV8oqOXl_v1tDjlGUyL70v5N--ITirpRkz_QzE6s41-t7Z1y-pivqcWvyepvjrawXTtBS3o1g==

i'm getting to the overcharge nodes with the leaping jewel btw
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moro paskoille :D
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>>158551508
>>158554546
>scion

for what purpose?
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hey qt
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>>158553781
>hybrid es/ev
How do you plan on scaling this effectively considering you need conflicting prefixes on gear and miss out on shield scaling? Run the numbers, it's unlikely you get a high enough ES buffer for it to be worth it.

Consider what you would need gear wise:
ES/EVA hybrid base
with a life roll (prefix 1)
with es roll (prefix 2)
with eva roll (prefix 3)
= no room for effective es or eva scaling since those need 2 rolls (flat value and % increase)

Aura wise:
Discipline (35%)
Grace (50%)

The numbers look good on paper because you only consider your tree, not actual in-game scaling avenues. Elementalist's reduced reflect damage taken or Arrow Dancing don't particularly help you in reflect maps since you would constantly interrupt your ES recharge. You could pick up GR and duelist leech nodes to counteract this but your tree is already stretched thin as it is. Overcharged is garbage and you're skipping frenzy and jewel nodes.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUCAGQzWG0rJgOadSpxYkPITwRboKdVfA5o8vAfogAEs8BmPAXvfJ_fmjuCm-081absODrYJy-QVRo45CIabDbpJKoWb-NqA3WdrpErWHdfBKcI6-6a4EWdU1KFMgthr2zYJFZIhW3VgSTYNsUfAgQHg9tVxjpYrJjxbDbYSRsqjexVTLOXlVJTl_Q9X20ZCPTAVGpDxq6XhTT3IbAMXxynU6U8LYPMg1-3Pv4K2L01kv6PTeOmVzrh8kVBh_noxPYn7QYO1HwJ9hku2WGtjc9-K1Aczq-nDc3-VJZ0fEsulOwurv0o-oLHmK0=

emulating 1.3 mom flameblast meme meta how's it lookin
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>>158555108
tl;dr evasion is still garbage, just take more life
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>>158555254
1.3 flameblast meta worked because prolif was actually good

there is no reason to run flameblast now unless you're elementalist (free prolif) or inquisitor (free pen)
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>>158555404
Elementalist gets free pen too lmao
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>>158554806
Because I like her
Same reason I don't play Duelist
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>>158555404
i actually intend to give prolif a test run to see if it's truly fallen since i can just pop it off and put in another gem at bosses
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>>158551508
Chieftain Elementalist
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0-3 build the 100th cyclone toon
4-6 think of a different build
7-9 stop playing till next league
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>>158555881

Make a pale crown build.
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>>158555651
There's no reason to build around a support that double dips on less damage. You're picking the wrong ascendancy to begin with, and trying to work around the wrong 5L/6L, which means your build is already a failure, not even considering pathing mistakes. Flameblast totems inquisitors could use prolif gem, but that's because they already have high enough damage to ignore the damage penalty.
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So there are a few ways to hit yourself right.
Can those hits actually be blocked?
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>>158556416
no, it's all secondary damage
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Will there be a 1-month league between essence and the next?
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>>158556818
How can there be a league between the current league and the next league? Then that league will be the next league.
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>>158557296
retard
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>>158556818
Why would they need to delay the filler leagues for a month? They'd have to start a one month event right now if there were going to be one.

Maybe they'll need to delay act 5 in March and there will be one, but I doubt that even.
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>>158507986
decoy totem build
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Here's some OC for your dead general

There's 3 versions, and I want you guys to pick the best. Using it as thumbnail on one of "my" vids

1/3
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>>158511190
got a perfect 40% rolled abyssus from the last one I did, that was pretty nice.
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>>158558121
2/3
nice fucking post cooldowns, nip kike
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>>158558231
3/3
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>>158558121
>>158558231
>>158558330
I'll vote if you give me a stack of silver coins
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What support gems should I use together with Earthquake?
Also is the tooltip dps on that skill a lie? Just a feeling I got
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>keep the target on low life for 10 seconds
xD
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>>158559913
>tooltip DPS

as a general rule, this is only useful when comparing yourself to someone using the exact skill with the same build.
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>>158517074
yes, but that was because they included it in a screenshot on the forum like dumbasses
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>>158559913
Less duration is by far the most important support for EQ, then just grab whatever gives most damage. Avoid faster attacks and forget about multistrike.

Also, if you're planning to go bleed/poison, consider rapid decay.
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>>158560554
>"Kill the malcontent in question, but leave his retinue alive..."
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>>158559913
Less Duration, Melee Phys, Added Fire, IncAoE/Conc Eff, Fortify/WED
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who here /ready/
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have they announced the competitive race yet?
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>tfw no oppai loli imouto to rest wrists on after a long session of mapping
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0-2 Level up a new character
3-5 Play another game
6-7 Read
8-9 Animu
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>>158565082
very unlucky
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>>158565082
wanna level together?
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Post good anime only pls
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>Actually have more trouble with the t13 lair than the t14 dark forest because of the layout of the boss room
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How terrible is my build? I'm level 44 right now, I'm starting to have a bit of troubles with act 4. Should I just restart or what?
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQAAQHcBS0JWAvBFewaVSFgI9M17zrtQzFEnkz_TipTu1boV5dbr2BBYSFjcGSjZU1uaW8ndO2BQYTZiO2K8Jkrmmqfgqn6uR29Nr2Bvqe_1cGLxILEuMqQ0_zV-NrB26fdDeCV4e_pRg==
I spam frost blades at incoming mobs, switch to cleave if I'm getting swarmed in melee, I use dual strike for the survivors/bosses. I also use punishment and assassin's marks when things get harder. And I have herald of ash on all the time.
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>>158568752
punishment is shit, use enfeeble or vulnerability

its also more effective to only use 1-2 skills - leaves you room for supportd
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why does GGG hate us so much?
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>>158544521
>And i havent seen him one shot himself yet.
He quit the character last night because he kept one-shotting himself.
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ziz is streaming on his birthday..
what a sad life he leads...
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>>158572050
hundreds of people are wishing him happy birthday and sending him money

i only get gifts from my mom...
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>>158572167
my family doesn't even care about me
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>>158568882
At that stage in the game, setting up vengeance + riposte + leech/life gain on hit might increase your survivability. And consider whirling blades as an escape mechanism.
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>>158572050
The majority of /poeg/ probably plays the game on their birthday too, they just don't get donations and ad revenue for it.
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>>158572863
yeah... we're even below a loser like ziz... let that sink in..
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>>158569132
>>158572569
I'll try, but, pff, finding shit with the right sockets is hard. I had to waste a bunch of chromatic orbs just to get a second blue slot. I don't think I've ever had two at once on this char until now.
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>be new player
>playin as glacial hammer templar with a cleave support gem
>passives are all directed toward elemental damage
>feels like playing Sven in dota, click one dude and cleave everyone to death in one massive hit
>hear Earthquake is the only good core ability for melee
>reach act 3 and get an Earthquake gem
>oh fuck yeah it's on now motherfuckers!
>equip it and use it
>does piddly damage against main target
>nothing happens for like a million years
>aftershock hits literally nothing because mobs moved

Did I get rused or some shit? This ability fuckin sucks.
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>>158573235
>cleave support gem
Why did he mean by this?
>Sven in dota
Why did he start playing this game?
>Did I get rused or some shit?
Why did he come to such conclusion?
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>>158573235
Earthquake needs less duration support gem. It also does less damage because it's 100% physical and your elemental passives do nothing.
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>>158573492
>because it's 100% physical and your elemental passives do nothing.
only in poeg does such obviousness need to be spelled out
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>>158573492
>It also does less damage because it's 100% physical and your elemental passives do nothing.
Well that makes a lot more sense, but still, why would I want to do splash damage tomorrow when I can do splash damage today? Same reason I passed over Molten Strike.
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>>158574006
>why would I want to do splash damage tomorrow when I can do splash damage today?
Such an advantage tends to become quite valuable later in game when you can't really facetank everything with your frosty stick and being able to move - damage - move - damage - move proves to be much more effective dps
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>>158574006
Erthquake overall damage per use is massive and has by far the biggest AoE of all melee skills. The nature of the skill also lets you completely skimp on attack speed and focus on raw damage per hit.
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Will GGG ever rework hardcore so that

>new players in hc challenege league don't suddenly spawn in standard without a single fucking clue what happened thinking they're still playing hc

>hardcore challenge league deaths stop polluting the standard economy

>hardcore challenge league gets proper permadeath, no weasling your way outta it on technicalities that nobody agrees with that make zero sense

>a short logout delay of 1 second or equal to thr time it takes to cast portal and walk through is added to kill logout scripts but still make strategic logouts feasible so that watching others play hardcore isn't just a logout fest

hardcore is a joke. it's time we hold ggg accountable. make hardcore great again.
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>>158574608
>it's time we hold ggg accountable
great post, reddit
where do I sign the petition?
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how do people build windripper?

1/3 of it's damage is physical 2/3 is elemental wtff
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>>158574705
>t. rmtard
gb2 ebay
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>>158574229
>>158574340
I dunno man it'd have to be really fuckin good to trump this Glacial Hammer + Herald of Ice screensplosion build i've got going
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>>158574859
try stacking flat phys damage with the crit and tell me how it works out
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>>158574891
>build
>in normal
lmao
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>>158575024
that's not the point

why use a windripper that will only scale with ele damage 66% as good as a nuro's harp? what's the point of even having a compound damage bow in the first place?
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>>158575143
>nuro's harp
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>>158575143
>removing phys damage from a bow means it scales better with ele
based retard
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i legitimately don't get it

nuro's harp is basically a full elemental windripper from a dps perspective why would i choose windripper?
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based retard
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One (1) month until next league starts..

What do you plan on doing until then?
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>why would i choose a 9% base crit bow with way more attack speed????
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>>158576007
i've been playing HC minecraft for a month

it's pretty fun desu
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>>158576157
>HC minecraft
>HC
Excuse me?
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>>158575750
R E T A R D
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>>158575750
you have all the relevant info in the fucking pic you posted

dyslexia? can't into numbers? a bait?
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>>158576024
>33% more scalable damage, ele nodes being some of the best nodes pound for pound in the game
vs
>.3 more attacks per second
and
>.5 to 1.5% less base crit

if i'm gettin enough attack speed and already 400% crit from tree why would i not use a nuro's, which also means i can use cold nodes which are also some of the most damage dense on the tree...
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>>158576454
use it then
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>>158576454
Nuro's isn't half as bad as people meme it to be. with that said, if you are going crit, Windripper is way better so you are still a retard.
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>>158576232
HC minecraft
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>>158576680
>if you are going crit
>if

who plays noncrit bow
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>>158576818
>viable bow builds for literally every mechanism in the game
>why don't we all just play the same exact cookier cutter critbow

kys
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>>158576936
answer my question
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>>158577015
i've seen some bow elementalist builds

caustic arrow shit also
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>>158576454
Nuro's weaker if you can't shock with cold though damage wise.

Also, base crit difference is humongous if you do the math. Even when GGG nerf spell gems they only nerf it by 1%, the base difference in crit % between Windripper and Nuro is 2.5% with the top rolls.
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Does using the divination cards have any difference on normal, cruel and merciless?
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>>158576454
Are you crit capped

>Yes

Sure, use Nuro's

>No

Retard
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>>158577313
yes but i'm not going to tell you specifics
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>>158577313
They don't, only depend on character level.
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>>158509683
Get to high level.
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>>158577205
1.5%*

>>158576454
The difference between the two bows is not what people here are making it out to be. In exchange for less base crit, you get a single damage type instead of three. If you are playing elemental bow Nuro's can be much much stronger due to the cold nodes on the bottom right hand side of the tree, and also the use of the Cold Steel unique jewel. You will crit ~20% less often than a Windripper, and have slower attack speed, but you will more than make up for that in the scalability of your base damage in terms of DPS. The reason most people prefer windripper for elemental builds is that crit creates status effects. The rest is history, and the Nuro's Harp became a laughing stock as a result, even though it's totally viable.
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>>158535435
Drifters, Nanbaka, Flip Flappers, and Izetta. Funnily enough, all 4 of them are to some extent gay.
>>
>strange barrel in normal
>mark of the doubting knight drops

REEEE, etc
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>>158578138
>you will more than make up for that in the scalability of your base damage in terms of DPS
Windripper's damage has to consider the Shock factor as well Not to mention the secondary effects of Nuro's totally garbage compare to Windripper's.
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>>158558330
Replace the X with a K and an S Keksile
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hmmm..

yes im playing d3 fuck you archon is fun
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>>158579224
120fps..........
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>>158579336
what ?

its noticeably better than 60 on a 144hz screen, anyway D3 chokes hard just like poe on high level grifts with tons of monsters, I'm not even talking about 4 player pubs where you can choke the server instead
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>>158579224
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>>158555534
F R E E
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>>158579224
disintegrate was pretty satisfying skill
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just completed my first Uber Lab run. Wasn't as hard as I imagined, even if I didn't do a max key run.
what should I use my enchantment on? I have a pair of Snakebites in my stash, I read that with the right enchant they're worth a lot. I also have a sealed double enchantment prophecy, should I use it?
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>>158581179
>have a sealed double enchantment prophecy
too late to use it this run
>what should i enchant?
hubris circlet if you want to pray for the dream, sorc boots for decent average value
>snakebites are good with the right enchant
i've never heard of anyone giving a shit about any specific glove enchants, but I don't know much about anything.
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>>158581632
why hubris circlet and sorc boots?
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>>158582031
Highest tier ES bases.
Everyone is ES so ES gear is in demand. Even if they aren't ES, the alternatives (armor, EV) are nigh-worthless so they'll still buy an ES piece if it has the enchant they want.
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>self cast flameblast
>72
>only getting 80-90million xp/hour in dried lake
is it supposed to be this slow or am I doing something wrong?
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>>158582774
is it prolif?
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>>158582774
Maybe bottlenecked by (lack of good) gear.
Maybe bottlenecked by playstyle (pick up every yellows because autism demands you need to do that).
Maybe bottlenecked by wrong flask choice (not running 2x Silver flask and have permanent up time with Onslaught effects).
etc. etc. etc.
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>>158582774
based on my experiences, you should be able to maintain +100 mil up to lv75 easily
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>>158576680
Why do I see this image being posted in almost every single PoE thread?
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>>158583231
i have a prolif gem
>>158583238
i guess my gear doesn't really have much damage on it and i'm not using damage flasks but i'm pretty efficient about the loot I pick up, it just seems like stopping to channel a blast until it encompasses the whole pack takes up a lot of time compared to most builds i've taken to this point.
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>>158579224
>d2 was 9/10
>d3 was 3/10
how the fuck did blizzard fuck it up so bad? was money all they cared about?
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>>158582774
post tree
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>>158582774
cast speed
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>>158583616
what's your FB deeps? what about cast time?

are you using elemental overload?

also with prolif you don't channel 10 stacks on packs, you do smaller blasts and let ignite do the job
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>>158583841
poeurl.com/Pjg
i run tc/enfeeble blasphemy and flammability CoH with orb of storms (plan to add ele weakness if i can get a curse amulet in addition to EE to make orb of storms reduce fire res)
>>158584039
i have faster casting support, should i look for more on gear?
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Haven't played in forever, got a lvl 47 templar in standard league, think I was doing incinerate and something else, but build is "outdated and no longer works"

what do I change it to?
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You told me firestorm totems are shit. You lied to me, /poeg/.
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what is the Italian B.M.T subway of poe builds?
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>>158584239
>>158584273
I am using overload, forgot to mark it on the tree.
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>>158584310
Just pick an elemental skill, can hardly go wrong with a templar. The OP ones are pretty obvious.
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>>158567315
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>>158584273
you want all the cast speed you can get, it makes the biggest difference with FB
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>/poeg/
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>>158584978
frickign retard
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>>158585031
do NOT reply to me
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>>158584721
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>There are 88 posters in this thread.

hmm
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would be 87 if you weren't here
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What's the best looking item sprite?
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does rallying cry dmg double dip with totems?
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lol

thousand ribbons

no

also what's Raider good for
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>>158585205
and one billion lurkers
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dont think this retard understands what double dipping means
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>two months of /DEAD GAME/ between leagues
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>>158585714
shut the fuck up retard
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>>158585587
>what's Raider good for
vaal spark

>>158585627
yeah, i wanna know if it works like the necro allies node that double dips the aura boon on totems. like, since the totems are your allies, YOU get the damage and THEY get the damage and since theyre totems they get BOTH
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>>158585627
I think he's wondering if the cry will affect his active totems and also his character, so by extension the totems again.
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don't reply to me idiot
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there are homeless people and starving children
but poetards worry their build can't beat shaper
fucking pathetic
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>>158585587
>thousand ribbons

its a nice transfer skin
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>>158585627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfprRZQxWps
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when will we get pvp and trade like diablo 2
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>>158585942
maybe if skinny kids could help me kill shaper i'd give a fuck. the homeless have been useless since 1.3
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>>158586250
retard
piece of shit
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>/poeg/
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>>158586112
Huh? Those already have better support than d2...
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T-that's forbidden love!
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you guys suck

i'm out
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i want to help homeless people
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How can anyone honestly call themselves hardcore if they don't play Solo sefl found?
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There's no single player mode though
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they're just pretenders
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what builds you guys planning for the race season?
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>>158586685
>Witch and Ranger yuri never
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>>158576818
i play memetalist BA
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>>158586914
Because poe when you play the economy is a much deeper game with more possibilities. SSF is a simpler ruleset designed to extend the time it takes to complete objectives by cutting out "dealing with other players" and replacing it with "grind for gear and currency recipes"
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>>158587093
Only if the witch is an abusive dom, which doesn't really mesh with the "forbidden love" thematic
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>>158586679
>better
>nobody but autismos participates in them
lmao @ ur life, kids
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im probably going to be homeless within a year
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Interacting with humans is by far the worst part of the game. Trade shoudl be automated.
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you can have my uo denim doujin when that happens
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>>158587429
>d2 pvp
>participation from non-autists
Not in this timeline.

Autist-only participation and the rare cutthroat race is better than all the literally nothing d2 had.
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>>158587613
diablo 2 pvp is literally the standard by which all other games in the genre are judged. diablo 2 pvp is objectively and subjectively superior. nobody wants your wow arenas and outside of the game events, nerds
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Give me something super safe, bordering on retard proof that I can play in HC so I can make a ton of currency selling leveling gear to shitters who die all the time
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>>158587749
poe could have 'd2 pvp' too, it would be easy to implement I think, just set your game to public and then people could join your instances to kill you

no one would do it
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>>158587896
E S S E N C E T R A I N
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>>158587945
>no one would invade your instance like dark souls and diablo 2 pvp
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>>158587896
Marauder totemancer.
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why isn't anyone talking about GGG slowly handing the game over to tencent?
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>>158588067
no one would set his game to public in the first place, retard
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>>158588261
you don't get to choose. don't matter. just another feature they'll never implement because it's incompatible with tencent's rmt strategy.
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>>158588374
then its cut throat
in d2 you could set a password to make your game private
have you even played poe or d2 ?

I want small cut throat leagues, during main ones, just to add something to do in between 2 characters.

even softcore babies wouldnt play that
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why doesn't anyone care that the tencent version of poe is superior to ours?
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>>158588649
>tencent
>good
Ok shill
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i dont care about anything desu
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>>158588142
Because it doesn't affect us who aren't chinks?
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>>158588562
public groups were more common and better in diablo 2 plus by not making 'private' a default as ggg would inevitably do, more players were exposed to it. exposure is an important part of adopting a gameplay style.

yes, cut-throat and they have already had one week events they need an actual challenge league with cut-throat and the entire mechanic needs to be improved and worked on not stuffed away in events than <1% of the population participates in.
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Why is the meta dead as fuck? CI is boring, totems are boring, BV is boring. Every time there's something fun they nerf it into the ground and focus only on these shit builds that are uninteresting to play.
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>>158589265
GGG is lazy and incompetent and don't have the balls to make substantial changes to the game
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The meta is not playing the game.
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>>158589265
>Every time there's something fun they nerf it into the ground and focus only on these shit builds that are uninteresting to play.
this is stupid and youre dumb for believing that

anyhow, the meta is currently closest as it was during 2.0 with BV replacing incinerate. the reason the meta was the worst then (and game popularity the lowest) was mobs in mpas were not balanced appropriately, at all. Now map bosses. you can deduce the reason for the current meta on your own if you stop being such a tard, tard
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>>158589550
you're either new or retarded
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>>158589550
Almost hooked me, Chris.
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>>158588649
They basically took the game and fucked it, actually. The chinese PoE is an MTX P2W nightmare.

You think western PoE is P2W? You don't even know the fucking meaning of the phrase senpai. China is FUCKED when it comes to the vidya industry.
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>>158589095
I agree but its a very tough thing to do and for GGG there always is something better to invest ressources in.

blizz tried in D3, I dont think they really tried but rather did something really quickly to please the retards because we saw it was totally incompatible with the way pve is handled, having life pools and damage values in two totally different worlds, which is also the case for PoE albeit slightly less retarded ( you can hit for trillions in D3 )

ggg made special gems like reduced block but I doubt everyone wants to run that in case they get ganked on the coast.
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>>158589852
>I agree but its a very tough thing to do
because the game is poorly designed
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t16 map in china
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Why are there always autists who want PvP in PvE games?
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because the non autistic superior games have a proper version of pvp whereas the autistic shitty poorly designed games do not
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>>158590036
That's Garena, not Tencent.

>tfw poeg doesn't know basic geography
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>>158590036
>he doesn't know what the four (4) t16 maps look like
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no one wants to play pvp
go kill some mmo with your shit game design ideas
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pvp would be fun if they could actually balance it and then host pvp tournaments with mtx rewards like demis and such
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>it would be impossible to balance cut-throat!
yeah right like they couldn't slap some special third mod pvp only affixes on flasks and solve all balance issues at one fell swoop

>>158590378
mmos/lol are not pvp shit eating 90s/00s kid
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remember that time ggg flew shitdude to kiwiland and spent a bunch of development time trying to make pvp a thing and no one gave a fuck, because no one wants to play pvp in a pve loot grinder
ggg remembers, because it was a major waste of their money
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>no one wants to play your wow arena autism not diablo 2/ dark souls pvp
ok gotcha
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cutthroat is fun for exactly 25 minutes.
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hundreds of thousands of people playing pvp in diablo 2 right now
no wait, no one is doing that
it's almost like there's more competition for online games and people are playing games designed for pvp
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https://www.reddit.com/user/c10k

I found the P2W autist

>muh ethical microtransactions
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no good successor to diablo 2 came out is more like it

>body drops, ear drops, gold drops, hostile pvp, lld item economy, pvp item economy

poe is a stanky turd
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you should stay on reddit
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this is reddit
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Shame on the media for what they did to him.
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pvp autists should fuck off to d2
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they have no one to play with so they have to latch onto successful games
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reminder p2w shitfest zero content item mall games are also "successful"
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Blessed
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go shit up one of those games with your bad advice on how to add griefing to their casual game
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poe is supposed to have griefing, nerd
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no chris wilson of grinding gear games learned that being able to pay your mortgage was actually better
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wtf I see ads at the top and bottom of the page on mobile site
Is it happening?
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>tfw /poeg/'s finest gets BTFO by predetermined prices+120 fps+cut-throat pvp autist AGAIN
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>>158590036
>all those auras
>blue bv
>blue.fucking.blade.vortex
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>0-2 play poe
>3-9 watch anime
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>>158595195
>still pretending that anyone pvp'd in d2
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>>158596429
>had an entire subsection dedicated just to trading lld items on one of the most populated social sites on the entire internet d2jsp
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>>158596564
>a bunch of nobodies circlejerking on a 90's website means that anyone played pvp
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>>158596564
Most people didn't even play diablo 2 online...
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Hey guys, BF1 is awesone! I mainly like conquest. Infantry finally feels good again. I'm happy I don't need to play tanks anymore.

The maps are really well designed. Cya on the battlefield!
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>yfw Izaro fakes his death every time he is "killed"
The ourest of guys
All he does, he does it for us
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>>158597217
and yet the online component was still more popular than poe
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>>158598091
>conceptart.org forums at 8.5 billion
>Go to their forums
>Around 3 million visible posts
Yeah, I'm gonna call bullshit.
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>>158598659
some probably got pruned over time.
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>>158598812
>8.59 billion posts
>some
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you get pruned over time
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trade tabs are p2w
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>>158598659
Conceptart.org has gone through a bunch of big shifts / reformations on their forums iirc but even i doubt it has that many posts, even with sketchbook threads that are constantly updated with shit
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>>158598812
>8.2 billion posts pruned
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>>158600035
forgot your cat picture
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>>158599949
>>158600509
or they could have migrated. pretty basic stuff
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>>158600940
this game is p2w and there is NOTHING you can say to change that
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>>158600509
They hired mods from Neogaf
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>>158601060
this game is f2p and there is NOTHING you can say to change that
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>look up build guides as a noob
How the fuck do you copy these builds?

Do I just play however I want until i've got to like level 70 then I can fully reset and use different stuff or what? I don't get how you even manage to plan ahead to get those very specific items and skills through rng? Do you just buy them or some shit?
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>>158601142
are you retarded? obviously it's f2p. the problem is it's p2w because you can't get trade tabs without spending money
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>>158601240
Look up guides for general templates on how to path. Don't worry too much about gear and dps thresholds, those will come with experience. Learning about the game is more important desu
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>>158601240
yes you're supposed to trade to acquire your desired items
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>>158601351
are you retarded? obviously it's f2p. the best part is it's f2p because you can do anything without spending money
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>>158601510
if they gave us an alternative way to earn trade tabs without spending $$$$ then it wouldn't be p2w, retard, but GGG is too greedy for that
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>>158601646
>>>/d3g/
there's the ethical arpg developed by a tiny indie company you've been looking for
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>>158601773
that's exactly the problem, assface. GGG promised "ethical microtransactions" and "never pay-to-win" but clearly those were all LIES
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>>158601895
>Everything is crazy expensive

This didn't start bothering me till recently
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>>158601895
but mtxs are ethical and the game is not p2w

you sound desperate
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>>158602031
gamble boxes are not ethical and trade tabs are objectively p2w
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>>158600509
Doing it

For

F R E E
R
E
E
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>New skills pushed back to mid-November
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>>158602076
is that how you justify being a nobody? you don't have as many trade tabs as those at the top? lmfao you delusional little shitter
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>>158602167
>ad hom attacks

looks like i've won this argument. let me know if you want to come back for round 2
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>>158602284
>hehe I won, +1 internet point for me xD
always a pleasure having you visit us, reddit
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>>158602127
b-b-but, they're making them extra special just for you anon. They're making them super fun for release so that they don't have to balance them later with the next update!
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some babies are born with no heart at all
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who cares, fuck them
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>>158602127
Fuck
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>>158601351
But you can list items for trade without spending money and that's the only thing trade tabs do
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i want to trade my original player names to other players like i could do in diablo 2 through d2jsp without harming anyone but since that's not allowed in poe, how do i do it?
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>trading names
LOL @ this massively obese retard
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>>158604323
he's a frogposter, what'd you expect
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how's your secret op build no one knows about doing today, /lolg/?
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>>158605382
Damage dropped off hard, takes me like 3 minutes to kill a guardian

Great fucking use of 20ex.
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>>158605518
i could explode you with my brain waves
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>>158605382
my pathfinder died two weeks ago and i haven't launched the game since
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>>158605712
more like the pimples on your face, loser
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>>158605382

>tfw to intelligent to make a wormblaster

Those look pretty fun though, tbhfam.

>tfw to poor to afford any of those items that make memeblasters viable
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me > you
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>>158605518
pathetic little tryhard
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>>158606635
keep sitting there "poe expert" and do nothing, loser
>>
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>>158606741
lol
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this would be cool for weapon swapping
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>>158607308
Too much life for no downside, high regen if you haven't been hit seems like a decent mod though
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>>158607549
I just ripped the stats off the actual item though, don't mind the balance implications.
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>when zana detects your presence from across a room and stay "Still sane, exile?" to absolutely nobody
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>chris has a business degree
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Is it just me or is the templar starting are a mess for anything not totems?
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>>158609248
It is pretty awkward to get out of, It should be attack damage instead of melee damage on his early nodes imo
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>>158609248
regen nodes are pretty good for memephant
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If you want a shitty unique idea, how about this. just ignore how op it would be for discharge.

The idea would be, to maximise your damage you'd have constantly generate charges, instead of just hitting a cap and maintaining.
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no one cares about your garbage uniques, dude
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>>158609363
It's not just that, this area seems unnecessarily clustered.
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>>158610032
>No fun allowed
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>>158610196
unironically one of the few jewel slots that can use inspired learning for that very reason but okay
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>>158609248
nothing about the start favors "totems"
the notable aspect of the start is that it disfavors attack builds that aren't purely elemental
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>>158609363
A crime it isn't
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"fun"
>>
"viable"
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>>158610695
other stupid aspects of templar:
don't get crit gems despite having an entire ascendancy focused around critical strikes
no elemental damage leech nodes (they go toward the physical damage focused duelist, naturally)
melee nodes to push you through the bottom path if you use wands
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>>158611226
you're retarded if you cannot understand why the tree doesn't feature elemental leech nodes
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>>158611440
you might be retarded if you think that's a tree
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:^)
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>>158611803
>that resolution
>playing in a party
>being a totem babby
as expected from a discordtard
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>>158611975
let's see your character page
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>phoenix as a melee
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>>158613291
>mobs that reduce your max fire resist

This is the only one i've beaten
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>>158613291
He has like 3 attacks. Just walk away when he's about to discharge.
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>Less than 100 fuses for my first 6L
So good, I don't know if I should vaal it.
Does voltaxic rift 3d model only actives if it is corrupted right?
>>
How the flying fuck do you get an 11 minutes Brutus kill? Do you have to be touched by God himself?
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>>158614470
i killed him, it was just nerve wracking
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>>158614661
>Does voltaxic rift 3d model only actives if it is corrupted right?
learn english then i'll answer your dumb ass quetion
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>>158614690
get 10 ms boots (ie. get lucky)
get a good submerged layout (ie. get lucky)
get a good lower prison layout (ie. get lucky)
get level 4
get good
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>>158613291
>>158613291
>play bv melee
>rek everything in sight

melee has no problem, what is wrong with you?
>>
What game has the best bestiary, PoE or D2? Something about the diablo bestiary just feels more solid...
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>>158616034
PoE
>>
found a way to theorically reach 50% life recovery (regen+leech) per second without flasks

does poeg want to know my secret
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>>158616514
>does poeg want to know the secret to my build which is fucked on no-regen/leech maps
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>>158616595
just reroll no regen maps
no leech maps don't even exist considering their rarity
>>
I'd love to hear it
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>>158616514
Do you just get 150% increased life leech rate and then do nothing, because that would work
>>
Is it just me, or does Spell Echo outclass Faster Casting by miles?
Spell echo is effectively a .7 mana multiplier since the second cast is free, it gives a higher amount of cast speed, and it's more cast speed rather than increased.
It seems the only time faster casting is worth it is for things that specifically don't work with spell echo, like totems and flameblast. The only other major difference is that on cast/crit/etc triggers only trigger once.
Am I missing something here or is this just GGG balance?
>>
Why do chaotic disposition cards go for more than 5 chaos
>>
>>158617258
0.9 damage multiplier
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>>158617258
>Multi Strike is also better than faster attacks
>Wild Strike is better than Ele hit
>Earthquake is better than Ground slam

but yes
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Rolled all my flasks in less than 20 alts, AMA
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loli = /poeg/
kermit gloves = fun build
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>>158617662
I rolled my flasks in less
Because only one of them is non-unique, thanks Pathfinder :^)
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>>158617647
>Act 7 released
>Aoe strike is better than multi strike and splash
>Volatile hit is better than wild strike
>Fissure strike is better than Earthquake

Sometimes it feels like i'm playing with the same skills since beta...
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>zana map mission
>almost to the end
>game crash
>can't go back
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>>158618649
I'm happy for you
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>>158617119
You'd have to attack stuff though.

Who does that?
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>first time going lowlife
>go to sarn arena just in case something somehow kills me
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>>158620074
>hardcucks
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>>158620194
>turdbirds
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why's kaom's so ugly, i hope they make life builds worse
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so why arent you playing d3, the superior game
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>>158621821
It has even less content that PoE.
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>>158621821
because it's the big bang theory of arpgs
kys yourself
>>
Can someone teach me to be-friend I_NO so I can have his free stuff
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>>158622085
I_NO is a girl
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>>158622349
girl = guy in real life
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>>158602127
D E A D L E A G U E
>>
HC is a wasteland
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>>158624318
we're 2 months into the league
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>>158624318
play SSF, retard
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158621821

Awful game
>>
standard strong
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>>158624318
>>
>meanwhile reddit is still sucking GGG's dick every day

>inb4 reddit
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>>158624843
>0k
Uhh poetards?
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>>158625038
>do I fit in yet?
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.tv/kellhunter/AlertHedgehogKeepo

>dying with 21k ES
woah... so this is the power... of CI
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>>158625842
t. buys-all-his-boss-kills
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>>158625842
Crit and shocked, hit while shocked, finished off with last hit. All elemental damage. Think he might've gotten shotgunned for one hit too which I'm not sure was visually represented.

Not really any builds that survive that. He might've evaded if he'd used his stibnite though.
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>>158627761
an evasion life build would have survived it
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>>158627761
>>158628378
A bv pathfinder CI build would have survived AND facetanked it.
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>>158628428
wrong
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Wait I_NO is a girl? SOMEONE GOT PIX?
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>>158628504
You doubt the immeasurable power of the vinktar leech?
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>>158625842
should have typed wtb decoy totem two months ago
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>>158628679
the key is to phase run in and get your fortify and vinktar up together
give it a go
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rate my build
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>>158625842
To be fair, Grandmasters is probably worse than shaper for most builds.
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>>158629801
a tree is not a build
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>>158629828
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>>158629801
is that a fucking fireball build
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Is there a trick to farming/finding uniques? Every build I see has "just grab [unique] for levelling, lol" or something along those lines.
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>>158630483
kill things fast
kill things often
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>>158630483
poe.trade browser is the best unique farming build
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>>158630251
think dumber
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>>158630775
either you picked sniper by mistake or it's an aoe+projectile spell which leaves few options
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>>158629828
>>158630080
Pruning a branch can save a tree.
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>>158620892
Pleb taste
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What secret build is great at boss killing that isn't bv, rf or totems? My meme builds always have great clear speed but bosses in red maps fuck me.
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>>158630580
>>158630617
That's I thought.
What about unique monsters? Are they more likely to drop uniques?
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>>158634082
Vaal RF
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>>158634082
well if you're looking at spells all you gotta do is swap in concentrated effect or elemental overload as needed
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>>158634082
I just run Vaal Storm Call + Spell Echo+ Increased Duration + Critical Chance

might swap out chance for multi or focus or concentrated effect, but I need to crit or it turns into trash because of Inquisitors ignore resistances.
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>>158629801
is this an explosive arrow templar build
why
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>>158634143
they have increased IIR, sure
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>>158634082
I'm melting everything with ED
Wither is the most underrated skill in-game, a literal +140% more damage multiplier for pure chaos builds
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What should I do with all the skill gems I loot? If I sell a bunch of superior gems I get an orb for increasing a gem's quality, right? What do I get from 0% or Vall gems though?
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>>158634838
7 vaal gems + 1 sacrifice fragment = 1 vaal orb
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>>158634787
>ED
>secret
do you honestly think you're the first person to notice that contagion explicitly mentions its interaction with ED?
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What build are you gonna play next league /poeg/ ?

I'm thinking self cast burning discharge
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>>158634986
I mentioned Wither, and how people misuse it by putting it on a spell totem and getting 5-10 stacks instead of fully unlocking the potential of ED but sure go be a nitpicking faggot
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>>158617795

person taking the gloves = GGG
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>>158634906
Well shit, looks like I'm not getting one of those in a while.
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>>158617795
Where's her nose?
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>>158617795
https://exhentai.org/g/744543/d0f5b55c23/
https://exhentai.org/g/822910/80ffd3bdae/
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>>158634573
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYAAIsOWrmRR4CzPLbaO_mkcNRFfJeX-_W0OOUZjDYHY8u95oEWvw-rJIvDOio4VEemvp7EXfIrChEvAx4fQb6KoS9_xsHF7BgsvxXXhq5WY4_60NBfavDVSVGTJ1M1UELviPk3189JsWwLIvRtGRFQNbmnK5f0UlM9X9lbGyVLrukCl5VMs0V-Dlxq-tAf7-s7DREPrJjxbDbYSRsqjexVIbA095eFLpR0VV8q99eESFxrw22boY9GHRT60hcvJLCApGTnVdZmnrcxjHZyD3GFeuZj_UbXlG9mVIV77DiCm5o7n9_vfDwFwGbK07QM6roNfLJwKlM=
you prefer shadow????
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>i take the ele ascendancy
>i pick the 2 golems node
>i have 2 golem gems

do i get benefit from both golems?
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>>158636894
It wont stack the same buff afaik but if you have two different golems you get both their buffs
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>>158635005
Sunder gladiator or CoC vortex
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>>158634082
Ignite Vortex
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0-4 JAV
5-9 go to sleep
dubs PoE
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>>158637479
post the title so we can mock your bad taste
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>>158635005
depends on what changes they make
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>>158638034
I'm guessing, no major tree changes, vinktars nerfed, anything that can tank shaper nerfed, something about worm blaster
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>>158635005
cwdt zerker
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>One in five top 50 players will receive an armour set
>Every single race is 1 hour

I feel like this makes it much easier to win a demi. You just choose a class other people won't play because it's not very fast or reliable in a 1 hour race like marauder and then your only actual competition is going to be one or two other people.
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any ideas on ways to quickly regain mana besides Eldritch Battery or seething mana flasks?
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>>158637781
MUM-115
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>>158638886
weave the arcane, war bringer, praxis, mind spiral, mind of the council
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>>158638882
what armour set? i haven't been paying attention
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what is the point of acrobatics?

i've heard some people say its amazing and others say its utter dogshit

seems to me like it gives you essentially 30-40% reduced damage at the cost of 50% of your armor/energy shield

if your armor/energy shield isn't worth 30-40% of your eHP then it's a net positive right?
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>>158641102
correction; if 50% of your armor/energyshield isn't worth 30-40% of your eHP then acrobatics should be a net positive
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>>158508112
>2 cospri's malice
>dying sun
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>>158641768
good starter build for a new league
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>>158638882
>implying i dont have super secret scion strats to get a demi and the armour sets
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpehI7qHRZE
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>>158638882
how delusional are you? there's going to be a shitton more people racing than usual because HELLO free mtx instead of garbage 10 points and oh you need 500 points to get some shitty alt art item btw marauder is pretty popular in 1h races
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>>158641102
it's quite good if you're evasion anyway since your armor and ES will be dogshit. so you run around with 40% dodge+ 50% evasion, then pop jade and stibnite as well and you're never getting hit.
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:^)
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^stop posting
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>>158643962
worst forced meme on 4chan
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>>158641102
Can't be one shot if it can't hit you ^.^
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The earth of /vg/ rejects dead threads
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>>158643990
>>158644052
retards
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>>158646062
retard
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>>158646140
RETARD
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>>158646181
don't reply to me idiot
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Guys why can't we all just get along
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have they announced the competitive race yet?
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>>158646424
yeah
aryans
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>>158646502
ebin
:DDD
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>>158635005
Whichever channeling skill is the best. I'm a sucker for those kind of skills, it's why I went with flameblast the day it released.
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>>158649121
>channeling
>best
They're all the worst.

Standing still to cast is already a death sentence in many situations, and you want something that makes you stop and stand around for longer periods of time?

Oh, yeah, right. You're probably the kind of person who makes a build that has 'cannot clear endgame' included as a core mechanic like that lulzy freeze build they had as their build of the week.


People like you are the reason GGG refuses to fix their game and continues to release DoA skills.
As long as retards like you keep using those terrible skills they can keep telling themselves that everything is fine.
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How much ES does it take to become effectively invincible? Meaning, a single hit from anything, with any buffs, cannot kill you. 20k?
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>>158650071
Yeah, 20k protects against pretty much every oneshot in the game but doesn't make you invincible
https://clips twitch tv/kellhunter/AlertHedgehogKeepo
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At what level should I attemp Merc lab?
I have both The Unbreathing Queen II and Unbearable Whispers V activated
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>>158650231
lmao was that on hardcore? I'd probably kill myself if I lost that much gear. Each piece of his equipment was probably mirrorable.
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>>158650521
grind to 95 in dired lake like the otehr hardcucks, I guess?
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>>158650606
That dude doesn't care.
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>>158650819
>4k Chaos
>7 FUCKING MIRRORS
>All in EHC(?)
>You will never be thsi ood
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>>158650931
If you do enough PLAYER INTERACTION™®© you'll easily get that amount of dosh
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>>158650819
>Perandus coins don't have a dedicated slot in the currency tab
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>>158650931
>getting rich requires skill

all you need to do is play enough and anyone can have this level of wealth
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>>158635005
probably FB totems to get some currency going and then waste said currency on some meme build
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official challenge league tier ranking:

1) invasion
2) beyond
3) nemesis
4) talisman
5) perandus
6) tempest
7) onslaught
8) bloodlines
9) tempest
10) prophecy
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>>158653693
i meant to put essence at #6
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>>158653693
>bloodlines not last

Dude P-Link lmao
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>>158653882
bloodlines at least had some interesting mechanics but yeah p-link was asscancer
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>Get a jew friend to play the game
>Doesn't want to spend any currency and just hoards it
>He tries to lowball everyone

I refused to believe the stereotype, but I have witnessed it with my own beautiful green eyes.
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>>158654279
To be fair buying shit with your currency is way more efficient than crafting.
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>>158650931
just play more and you will be
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>>158635132
>self-casting wither
you're the one misusing it. to scale single target in an ED build you need to add poison damage and at that point you want to spam ED to maximize your poison damage. Even a spell totem can hit full wither stacks and it does it without costing you any ED casts.
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>>158635132
the only reason you would ever self cast wither is to use your totem slot on decoy totem.
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>>158653693
beyond wasn't good. copy pasted red blob man for free exp is a dumb game mechanic. you only like it cause free exp
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>>158656665
pre-nerf beyond was scary as fugg fuck you
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>>158656725
it wasn't scary, it just took ages to kill triple life regen rares when leveling
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>>158656991
>implying barrage cold snap, DD, chaos flicker, and the beyond bosses were easy to deal with
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>>158656497
There are 3 ways to reliably poison with ED:
1) Pathfinder
2) Consuming Dark
3) Poison support gem

1) isn't particularly optimal for ED, 2) costs your your weapon slot when a Delirium dagger is going to yield more damage over time, 3) is obviously inefficient

With my ED lasting 4+ seconds and Decay lasting 10 seconds, it's much more efficient for me to self-cast Wither because I can get to 20 stacks within 2-3 seconds and reliably. A wither totem is "dumb", targets adds, and has a 30% less cast speed penalty so it's never going to hit 20 stacks, realistically.

Wither bast cast speed: 0.28
Wither base casts/s: 1/0.28
+75% cast speed (25% + 20/20 faster casting): 1/0.28*1.75
30% less cast speed: 1/0.28*1.75*0.7 = 4.38 casts/s

To hit 20 stacks, you'd need a stack lasting ~4.5 seconds (not happening, even with all the duration nodes in tree + 20/20 ID)

If you want to sit around waiting for your wither totem to apply <5 stacks per second, sure, I much prefer my own way when I can RELIABLY get 20 stacks when I want, not 10 seconds later when my totem has decided to finally focus from the skeleton adds to the boss himself

This is why I say people misuse Wither, they just copy/paste the generic 2L (3L if they're smart) Wither totem setup without doing the math, when I spreadsheeted it

There is a case to be made for a Wither totem if you absolutely cannot afford to channel Wither and need to manually dodge 90% of the time, but not when you compare Decay + self-cast Wither vs Poison stacking + totem Wither
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>>158653693
As somebody who has played literally every single league and has no life to speak of, I can give you the OFFICIAL official league tier ranking:

1) Beyond
2) Tempest
3) Invasion
4) Essence
5) Perandus
6) Anarchy
7) Nemesis
8) Ambush
9) Warbands
10) Domination
11) Bloodlines
12) Torment
13) Talisman
14) Prophecy
15) Onslaught
16) Rampage
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>>158657642
lol this loser played softcore leagues lol
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>>158658089
found the shitter who never completed 8/8 challenges
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>>158657564
>Delirium will add more damage over time
no, it won't. that's basically 10% more damage on the DoT when poison which double dips almost everything can end up being half your damage on single target bosses. Also Cospri's Will is another option for poisoning.

Fun part about Cospri's Will: Temp chains slows the falloff of stacks by more than enough to hit max stacks.

There's no way you spreadsheeted your damage since, even without temp chains allowing you to hit max stacks, the benefit from full wither stacks is marginal compared to just a bunch of wither stacks once vulnerability is used for another massive chunk of increased damage taken.

You are misusing Wither and lying about the math you've done on the internet. I don't know why you feel you have to justify being a retard to strangers by using fake math, but that is what you are doing.

>wither totem is dumb
If you don't know how to place your wither totem so it will target the boss then it confirms beyond a doubt that you are retarded.
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challengea are a shit game mechanic. if it were a good idea, why not just make it part of the game? they're tacked on and tacky. challenges are for autists.
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>>158657642
>tempest
>2rd

the only interesting ones were corrupting and divine tempests and i don't think they added those until later into the league
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>>158658089
I used to play both leagues because I didn't want to miss out on any of the mechanics

Now that there isn't any difference between SC and HC leagues, I play exclusively softcore because I find it more fun.
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>>158658429
>that's basically 10% more damage on the DoT when poison which double dips almost everything can end up being half your damage on single target bosses.
Decay is 1k chaos DoT per second, it's very hard to beat this unless you can reliably stack poison and have a very generous ED tooltip to begin with. Consider it this way: you have to plant a Wither totem AND stack poison to beat Decay, I can Decay once every 10 seconds and Wither at will, you're limited by your ED casts/second which is hardly augmentable. Can you beat my setup within a 3 second frame? because that's how long it takes me to reach 20 stacks.

>Also Cospri's Will is another option for poisoning.
Forgot about Cospri's, right. I don't consider it because there are better chests as far as survivability is concerned.

>You are misusing Wither and lying about the math you've done on the internet.
What? Lying? Feel free to challenge the numbers but it's not exactly a complicated formula.

>1/0.28*1.75*0.7 = 4.38 casts/s

That's what you get from a 3L Wither totem, with a 4L or temp chains, you will hit 20 stacks eventually but not as reliably as self-cast.

> the benefit from full wither stacks is marginal compared to just a bunch of wither stacks once vulnerability is used for another massive chunk of increased damage taken.
How is this an argument? Vulnerability is 33% increased DoT taken or ~5 Wither stacks. It actually matters less comparatively the more Wither stacks you have. Is there a rule that states you can't use Vulnerability and self-cast Wither at the same time?

>If you don't know how to place your wither totem so it will target the boss then it confirms beyond a doubt that you are retarded.
It targets randomly, there's no smart placement or way for you to influence the targeting, stop doing drugs you degenerate
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>>158639272
It's so fucking terrible that I knew which one that was without looking. I need to go kill myself now, bye poeg
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>melt t15 bosses within seconds
>t16 bosses take forever

what the hell
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>perandus was good

worst meme
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>>158660472
they're end game challenges for a reason
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>>158660472
retard
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>>158659231
>it targets randomly
Holy shit this retard has me in stitches
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>>158661017
Good argument

I see you're afraid to challenge elementary school math or provide any logical argument, you've convinced everyone here your wither totem dying to the smallest AoE damage can not only beat my self-cast setup with 30% less cast speed penalty but will also smartly target the boss!
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>>158660672
what did he mean by this
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what if diablo 4 is literally the sequel to diablo 2 and chris wilson gets BTFO
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what if Blizzard still cared about making quality games instead of cash grabs
>>
what if I didn't waste my life playing PoE
>>
what if every new introduction to his own game is worse than the last and chris wilson is already on his deathbed

oh right lol
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r8 my scion ek mom builds

what if diablo 4 is diablo 1/2/lod and poe combined and brevik was secretly working on it all along and is actually an fbi informant about to release details to the police about chris wilson's lewt.com money laundering scheme that he picked up from his d2jsp days??????????
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probably would have learned useful life skills
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what if someone bought me 100 stash tabs
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>>158660472
Are you a burn build by any chance?
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i did the math and i would have to spend $140 on stash tabs to play this game for two weeks without running out of room. with only four tabs i run out of room within half a day of mapping
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>>158662589
I've played for many years with 4 default tabs, you need to be more selective with the junk you store or learn to convert currency better
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why does brevik work on poe instead of shooting leftists and arabs???????????????????
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>>158662679
how DARE you disagree with me!
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>>158662772
tab back to discord, retard
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>>158661192
That wasn't an argument, just pointing out my amusement at the idea of you casting totems on the field for hours with a look of DSP-tier confusion as you cry that "they're targeting randomly! Nothing I could do!" Because you lack the observational skills to realize they always target the closest enemy and hold the target until it either leaves range or dies.
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>>158663335
Which in practice might as well be "random" for mobile/quick targets unless you treat every boss as if it's plateau boss, stop being autistically contrarian when anyone who played ED once in their life realizes you're not recasting your wither totem all the time (thus defeating the purpose of trying to stack poison) and that it won't "stick" to its target long enough to matter, especially when there are adds being spawned all around and it WILL change targets "randomly" then. Spell totems are dumb, they only work for AoE spells which hit everything indiscriminately anyway, NOT your tiny AoE Wither.

You're talking out of your ass when numbers are not on your side, I'm talking from math and practice, try getting both before you contradict me next time
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>>158660472
Going from 300k to 2.8M life will do that to you.
Immunities are the cherries on top.
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>>158663889
>you're not recasting your wither totem all the time
>instead you'll channel wither
ebin

Later today I'll explain the definition of "marginal benefit" so you'll understand why vulnerability means max wither stacks are not worth getting over nearly full wither stacks. Right now I have more important stuff to do than getting your understanding of math up to high school level.
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>>158664053
where do you get those numbers?
that's 3.5 million hp guardians on +50% monster life maps
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>>158664130
http://poedb.
tw/us/area.php
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how retarded is it to run mind over matter (via cloak of defiance) with an EV/ES build considering that mana doesn't kick in until your ES is completely gone.

If I throw in acrobatics my ES gets halved but i get dodge in return....and i can get 100% increased mana+2% atk damage leeched as mana in like 10 nodes

thoughts?
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>>158664124
You're not even getting "nearly full wither stacks" unless in the perfect scenario (3L, stationary boss, no adds whatsoever, temp chains) and no matter what your application rate is 30% slower no matter what. Maybe you enjoy min-maxing how to kill totem bosses, I don't know. There isn't such a thing as "marginal benefit" when considering how to maximize Wither, there are no diminishing returns. The first stack of 7% increased damage taken is the same as the 20th stack 7% increased damage taken, so it's essentially whether you value applying poison with a slow ass casting ED or applying 21-28% increased damage taken within the same time frame instead. I spreadsheeted it, did you?
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>>158664653
>there are no diminishing returns
in the same sense that % increased _____ damage has no diminishing returns.
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>>158664591
> how retarded is it to run mind over matter (via cloak of defiance) with an EV/ES build considering that mana doesn't kick in until your ES is completely gone.
Extremely retarded.
>If I throw in acrobatics my ES gets halved but i get dodge in return....
Extremely retarded too.
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>>158664591
This game sometimes makes my brain hurt
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>>158664591
if you really want to go full blown autism with MoM then go heirophant with aylardex
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>>158664849
Except sources of increased damage are plentiful, while sources of increased damage taken are rare (50% from Shock, 33% from Vulnerability are pretty much all you get for ED), considering this, why would you NOT want every stack of 7% increased damage taken possible?

(20*7+33) / (15*7+33) = 1.25, do you just throw away 25% more damage which is a support worth of damage on its own just because it's "only" 5 stacks of Wither difference?

Do you think stacking poison when ED when the projectile dps is roughly 1/3rd of your degen damage can beat 7% increased damage taken on 50-60k ED+Decay debuff?
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>>158665516
>Do you think stacking poison when ED when the projectile dps is roughly 1/3rd of your degen damage can beat 7% increased damage taken on 50-60k ED+Decay debuff?
I know it does, do you really not know how double dipping works? The scaling paradigm is completely different.
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>>158664591
Holy shit the cameraman's so creepy
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>>158665801
If you deal 30k DoT, your projectile might deal 10k dps, so you're applying poison on that relatively small base instead of scaling 30k DoT + 30k Decay, you don't need a spreadsheet to know which one is more efficient but I'm done arguing with people who throw around terms like "muh double dipping" without having done the math
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>>158665516
>(20*7+33) / (15*7+33) = 1.25
you forgot the 100% damage taken base, this is what I'm talking about when I say your math is below high school level but you still seem to act as if you have Bachelor's degree. max stacks vs. non-max stacks is closer to a 15% more damage bonus.
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>>158665320
i did, it's lackluster
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>>158664591
How do you expect us to think of an answer if you make all of our blood go to our dick?
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>>158666045
you better have been running warlords mark
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>>158665906
>creepy
Take it back, the olympiads cameramen are based and our guys
Just go see all of those ass shots they gave us
They know exactly why we watch sports
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>>158666139
i dont fucking remember
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>>158666040
Right, I made a mistake, but you're also not factoring the ramp-up time it takes to get to "nearly full" or full stacks (3 seconds in my case), during which I will get stacks 30% faster thus making the ratio larger until your wither totem "catches up" at 15 stacks some time later.

Even if you take a specific t+3s frame, I still end up doing ~15% more damage then, which is nowhere near "marginal benefit", or you consider 4 frenzy charges to be "marginal benefit"
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>>158666737
43% faster actually
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why is this game so poorly optimized?
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>>158666953
>have shit connection
>blame the game

loving this meme
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>>158666953
>Amsterdam server.
>Login screen says 30 ping.
>Log in, end up with 200+, peaking at 300.
>Go play another game with a server in Amsterdam too.
>Sub 40ms ping.
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>>158666953
because the graph updates more reliably than other games. if you use an fps counter like the ond with msi afterburner, the fps fluctuates a lot less. it's placebo mostly but there are places where the fps shits the bed too.
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>>158665989
>you don't need a spreadsheet to know which one is more efficient
base poison is 16% of that 1/3 dps as a base, only 5.33% more damage.
seems small right?
but then we have to consider everything that double dips...
>void manipulation: 39% more
>controlled destruction: 44% more
>pierce support: 19% more
>slower projectiles: 29% more
>assume at least 71% increased damage from various sources
>assume 105% increased damage taken from some wither stacks
I guess we can't assume you're an occultist who could also get 20% double dip from -chaos resist and an additional 10% increased damage taken, and I'm too lazy to consider duration increases from temp chains or other sources which are functionally additional more multipliers for poison.
>5.33 * 1.39 * 1.44 * 1.19 * 1.29 * 1.71 * 2.05 =
57.4% more damage from your poison

yup, poison starts out small so there's no reason to consider how well it scales, it couldn't possibly become significant.
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>>158664591
I like the way you're thinking but a few things here

1) just because something is a net defensive buff on paper which Acro+Cloak is, does not mean it's not sabotaging your build.

2) Acrobatics is trash unless you are pure EV and are right next to the node, but PHASE acrobatics is not trash. Acrobatics is just an additional 30-40% chance to roll an evade. If your evasion is sufficiently high you won't get or need that chance as much.

3) Energy shield is rechargable eHP (leechable with GR). Mana is flaskable/leechable. MoM will only give you 15% eHP if you have equal LIFE and ES (don't ask for my math). With phase acrobatics you get the dodge chance plus 5% more eHP from MoM.

4) Now ask yourself, with all the mana nodes, and acrobatics nodes, and having to maintain a large portion of unreserved mana, and having to use a pretty shitty unique chest item, if you think it's still worth it.

5) For instance, you can run enfeeble on hit and get 30% more eHP without harming your ES or expending nodes.

Basically, this is an interesting idea, but like many interesting ideas in PoE, the opportunity costs of achieving 20% eHP here are too high.
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>eHP
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>>158667719
>Acrobatics is just an additional 30-40% chance to roll an evade.
you a joke, friend.
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>>158667572
Nope, poison is 8% of tooltip dps (damage PER second), so you need to halve everything in your calculations

Because ED scales DoT through spell damage too, Decay is 1k scalable through the same supports and nodes as poison, except it doesn't stack, so you're roughly comparing [1k scaled] vs [8% of tooltip scaled]

If your tooltip is higher than 1000/0.08=12500 (again this means a rough ~36k DoT, unrealistic unless you have really good gear) then poison starts becoming better but you have to commit to stacking it (i.e. 2+ consistent stacks) and hope your Wither totem survives long enough to apply meaningful stacks

A Decay+self-cast Wither setup like mine has two benefits over that:
1) No commitment to poison stacking, can manually dodge
2) Wither stacking is more immediate (= higher edps in the first few seconds), can use a Decoy totem to take the heat off you

*Ramp-up* Poison > Decay but the point is that you commit to a stationary poison stacking playstyle with no decoy totem to save your ass.
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>>158668284
>Nope, poison is 8% of tooltip dps (damage PER second), so you need to halve everything in your calculations
poison instances stack and tick independently of each other
every time your ED connects you get the damage from the full duration of every instance of the poison

You are a misinformed retard
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>>158668012
EHP is unironically good sometimes
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:^)
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>>158668394
This doesn't contradict anything I said. It's still 8% of your tooltip base. Why would you do calculations with a 16% base (poison after 2 seconds) based on damage PER second? If your poison lasts 2.2 seconds, you increase your potential stacking ramp-up damage, not your base damage/stack, correct?
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>>158668485
imma disregard you all the way to the bank
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>>158668718
ok nerd go ahead but a build with 7k life, 4k mana and 51% MoM from heirophant + keystone+ aylardex + 8 power charges is tanky as fuck
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>>158668117
>be evasion based
>get hit only 10% of the time
>WOW THANK GOD I HAVE 40% ACROBATICS DODGE SO I NOW ONLY GET HIT 6% OF THE TIME

Acro is the joke, friend.
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>>158668860
>3.9MB

convert to jpg DORK
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>>158668701
because every time the ED hits, the damage is dealt, the fact that the damage doesn't happen until 2 seconds afterwards is inconsequential unless you are looking at only the last 2 seconds of a fight, which is not a relevant way to examine a boss fight in this game. Your average dps from ED spam is properly calculated by considering the poison damage to all be dealt up-front.
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>>158664130

if you use poehud, you can see that guardians actually have 10m hp, 2m more than Uber Atziri
The shaper has 20m
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>>158669030
>dont waste internet
is this a third world meme or something?
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>>158669191
Take screenshot
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>>158668860
okay faglord. before you go back to your containment png forum, go read acro and tell me how many times evade is in there. and before you tell anyone phase acro is BETTER eat 4 megabytes of literal shit
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does anyone have a zoomhack for this game?

inb4 git gud i'm not really trying to cheat since i play poe pretty casually as a diablo fix

i just can't stand how zoomed in it is, i don't care if it makes things easier ot gets me banned
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idea: somebody make the new
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>>158670018
why would anyone give a shit if you cheat

poehud is all you gonna get
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>>158670018
https://a.uguu.se/Kap6UJmDJLPL_fullbright_zoom_240.CT

warning, that shit is detectable, poehud isnt
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>>158670852
absolutely will never be clicking this link
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>>158670893
if you dont know what a CT file is then its not for you to use anyway
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>>158671020
that's because i'm not a CHEATER
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>>158671286
unlike your gf/wife
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>>158671382
you just brought back painful memories
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>catposter is a cuck
Can't say I am surprised
New thread when?
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>>158669030
Ironically your picture would probably be smaller as a .png.
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>>158667719
>tfw gw is ded
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