/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

1st for ayy

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ded game

>>158304216

Sweet Roggu flavor time :3

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>>158304216
first for our cummunity manager

Marin Noggenfogger.

Baron of Gadgetzan.

Possible Roggu hero/class leggo.

Calling it.

What possible Paladin cards can you have in such expansion?

>>158304456

What a handsome boy Anduin is.

Shame about the cross-dressing.

Discuss the potential of this

https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/790598967448842240

Should we expect GvG reprints or new pirates or rogue themed expansion?

>>158304663
A Light in The Desert
>3 Mana
>Discover a minion, give it +2/+2

>>158304713
gvg had pirates cannon

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>>158304529
What would a noggenfogger elixir card look like?

>Cursed Blade
2/3
drawback: take all damage up the butt while this weapon is active

>Spirit Claws
2/3 (on average)
drawback: hurr it balance cause RNG FACE!

>>158304975
Mr. Noggenfogger
Battlecry: Random a random minion.

>>158304663
A bunch of paladins who lost their way

They will include off theme ones anyway like they always do

>>158304975

Transform a minion into a x/x Ninja with stealth, an x/x Pirate with charge or a 1/1 Skeleton

Southsea Treasuredigger Pirate
1/2
Battlecry: draw a card
Rarity: epic

Wizard First Mate
2/4
+1 spell damage
Rarity: also epic

Pirate Drunkard
2/3
Taunt
Rarity: common

>>158305427
>novice engineer pre nerf
>dalarhn mage prenerf
>frostwolf whatever prenerf

Rogue spell
Pirates-plosion
Deal 2-4 damage, summon that many 1/1 pirates with charge
Combo: summon twice as many pirates

How do I apply for a job at Blizzard?

>>158304663
Sand against Darkness
7 mana Summon seven 1/1 recruits :^)

>>158305554
>Implying Blizz wouldn't do it
Not that they would see too much play in this OP bullshit cancer meta.

>>158305780
When you learn what mana does

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Will this expansion actually slow the meta down or will be be another flop and leave the meta complete shit still?

Old gods was "supposed" to slow it down because all the 10 mana slow cards but it never did because it introduced no anti aggro

Will we get real anti aggro cards this time around?

>>158306249
healbot was retarded because heal should be exclusive for few class like paladin or druid
sludge shuld summon 1/1 or 0/2

>>158306249

Brings back priest, roggu, paladin in that order.

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>>158306249
Fuck, I miss Naxxramas. Zombie Chow was the hero we didn't deserve.

>>158306249
Shit, Naxx WOULD help out a lot, wouldn't it?

>>158306409
Both cards are fine

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It's finally time guys.

>>158306446
Yep, and sticky minions like creeper and egg would punish new midrange shaman AoE

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This new expansion will surely shake up the meta. It's Priest and control decks time. The meta Wil slow down. Team 5 will design new fun keywords and mechanics. This time for sure.

>>158306447
healbot should be shaman/priest/paladin/druid class card because this class can heal themself in wow

should i not craft tgt cards like justicar and arcane blast

>>158306737
They rotate out in a few months. It's up to you man.

>>158306635
Healbot is exactly type of neutral card we need. I don't see an issue with its healing effect in every class. I don't care about WoW, neither does Team5.

>>158306635

Every class can self-heal in WoW. Even Death Knights, Monks etc.

HEALER classes are different, they heal others. (Monks are also healers)

>>158306737
thats up to you. you need too evaluate for yourself if the amount of fun you'll get playing control decks before rotation will outweigh the dust "loss" you'll incur assuming you dont play wild.

>>158306409
>Only X classes should heal because lore
>Ladder is aggro
>Classes which can't get fucked over completely

No that's such an awful idea and is why the game is bad right now. Limiting class deck design because of lore in a game with ragnaros lightlord is retarded as shit.

Giving so many aggro tools to all classes while giving little to no heals to others is poor game design. Healbot was fine, without other cards like dr boom would've been even worse. Now it's gone we realize how important good neutral heals and taunts were.

Wow... I just got rekt against a dragon warrior...
He had alex' champion... Blackwing technician... Book wyrm... Alex... Molten giant... Death's bite... And even more dragons in his topdecking hand

The salty part: it was in fucking arena

>>158306867
But there is no monks or dk in hs

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will the new expansion make him playable?

Liked and subscribed

>>158307123
if other classes get good cards and shaman gets nothing, shaman will go back to being shit again

>>158307123
Maybe if there's a replacement for Elediggle. Concede Shaman only of course.

>>158307076

Any Class, anon, can self-heal. Warriors, Hunters etc.

Warriors can consume their Enrage buff, for example, once a minute for an instant quick heal on themselves.

>>158307123
What kind of stupid fucking question is that? How are any of us supposed to know what's going to be in an unannounced expansion?

Have you ever thought about using your brain for one god damn second before posting?

>>158307123
Why play a worst deck of a class with the best deck

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>>158307123
He already synergizes with Elemental Destruction and I don't think we'll see another mass AoE like that for Shaman again. They're going the way of Uther very soon.

>>158305126
>comparing a bad card to a card released in a later set

Should they have just made another shitty unplayable card? What are you suggesting?

>>158307267
We can only hope it will happen soon

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Your niggas gold stockpile ready for the new expansion?

>>158307123
No. Shit card that's only good if it's combo'd with another card that's about to be rotated out and almost dies to it.

>>158307453
>>158307267
my mistake, I mean when rotations happen which is next year

>>158307461
Lel make decks yourself faggot, don't copy thijs' decks

>>158306249
>slow the meta down

can you fuckers end this shitty meme already

you have no fucking clue what a slow meta is

it's 1000000x worse than an aggro meta

you think anyone has the time to sit around for 30 minute games only to lose on turn 35 to brawl RNG?

there will never be a slow meta because blizzard knows how shit and unfun it is

Fun Doctor
Neutral 0 Mana Minion

This card randomly plays itself from your hand or deck at the start of your turn and uses a random amount of mana to play a random spell or minion.

>>158307556
I'm just testing blizzcon decks to see which are good.

Thijs decks are really really good.

>>158307556
Why should anyone waste their time on that?

>>158307428

>cursed blade
>bad card
>unplayable

Shiggy

>>158307267
Shaman is dead next rotation anyway

It was only op because all the prior tgt cards it got then tunnel trogg and wotog pushed it over the edge

This is why priest wont suddenly become good with 1 expansion they need cards before hand too, which they haven't so far. Their basic set is shit on top of that, even shaman has decent cards there.

should I disenchant dr. boom

>>158307670
Cause that was once a fun part of Hearthstone...

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Who /hit rank 5 or legend and fucking around with shitty memes/ here?

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>wake up
>pirate expansion

Where are you brode? I'm going to kick your ass!

>>158307757
There is no fun in having your cute decks get trashed by netdecks

>>158307757
Maybe at rank 20.

There's no fun in playing suboptimal decks at rank 5 and getting stopped by everyone

>>158307797
Tomorrow we'll get a postcard from another Warcraft location. The expansion will not be about Gadgetzan

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>>158307894
>>158304216
new expansion is about taking trips

>>158306249
Meta is pretty slow right now. Fastest deck is now discard lock

>>158307797
Hahahaaah, let's dance

>>158307719
Priest already have the setup cards.

Priest of fiest and bishop are really really powerful cards. They only seem OK because they're in priest. In other classes they would be busted.

If they give priest a good 2 drop and a good spell that will push them over the edge.

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>>158307743
Goblins vs Gnomes are coming back and you want to disenchant Dr.Boom.

>>158307797
>heh greetings become stronger
>control pirate warrior coming to shake meta

>>158307568
t aggro shaman

A slower meta doesn't mean a control meta, it can mean 15 turn games which is a decent midrange match. Not it being decided by turn 6-7 like is usually is now.

Personally I would prefer some thinking how ever little that is required to win than shitting out your hand every turn and hitting face till they miss a removal turn.

>>158304456
this pose is so terribly unaesthetic

>>158308076
The meta already is midrange you shitter.

There are literally no viable face decks ATM.

Most games easily go into turn 9 or 10.

Game length is already perfect as is, all we need is better class balance.

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>>158308163
how about this one

>>158308169
>agro decks with big minions for those times they can't agro hard enough are midrange

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>>158308073

>warrior coins axe
>kills your bloodsail raider
>then plays a 5/3 bloodsail raider on 2 while killing your 3 drop pirate with ichor + axe

the expansion isn't out yet and I've already gotten cancer

>>158308237
You're such a fuckwit. Have you even played any other TCGs before HS?

An aggro/face meta usually has games decided by turn 4-5

A midrange meta is about turn 8-10

Control meta is turn 10+

>b-b-but it's not midrange because it doesn't fit my definition of midrange

I'm not sure how I feel about the new quests. They make me appear like Mr Super BM when I try to drag the game out to play more cards.

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Fork was a mistake.

>>158307642
just call him competitive sportsman

>>158306545

>Pirate Champion

Sorry mate every expansions late.

Currently we have:
>Reynad- Fuck this poorly designed piece of shit game
>Kripparian- Abloobloobloo Rng. I am actually dying due to this game but gotta get dem youtubebucks
>The general populace: FUCKING SHAMAN, FUCKING BLIZZARD, FUCKING SHIT GAME. LAST CHANCE THEN I QUIT.

The expansion comes, with barely any changes whatsoever. Maybe there's a neutral healing card to satiate reddit. All the "personalities" will release their EPIC preview videos of all the new EPIC cards and you'll watch them all just to see if Kripp agrees with Trump about the new 2-3 neutral with taunt.

Nothing will really change. RNG will still be king.

>>158308407
>Have 3 victory quest. Reroll.
>Get the meek shall inherit.

Are Blizzard trolling me? I thought we received new quests.

>>158304216

>Mediev confirmed as Kripp with a wig.

>>158308236
a lot better, but I don't get why the photograph doesn't work with her tiddies any more. the breast-angles are awful in these shoots.

>>158307310
Mage?

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>>158308539

>tfw watching card reviews is the main thing you like about new releases

>>158308349
>other TCGs before HS?
I didn't need more evidence that shaman players are retarded but thanks anyways

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>>158308658
yeah i dont get it either

>>158308539
the real problem in this situation are the people that say shit like
>are you le poorfag XD
and keep throwing big bux towards blizzard, enabling their awful game design and telling them that they are doing everything fine.

>>158307709
I'd rather topdeck a target dummy past turn 2 than a cursed blade

>>158307781

i hit rank 3 last night and now im rank 10 lol...

>>158309272
lmao...

So I crafted that Kibler Priest deck and it's a lot of fun, however what do I do when a shaman does the god opener (trogg into wolves)?

I'm not being sarcastic I swear, I legit enjoy Priest's gameplay, I just have no idea how I can stabilize that. What do I even want to mulligan for against Shaman?

>>158307781
I hit legend for the first time fucking around with a meme. Sometimes element of surprise can be pretty incredible.

>>158308237
>shaman running 4 aoes, 2 hex
>"aggro"
>hunter running 8+ reactive spells
>"aggro"
>tempo mage, maly druid, miracle rogue, control warrior archtypes
Discardlock, pirate/dragon warrior is the closest thing to aggro in 5-R1 ladder being played on a regular basis.

I hit rank 5 this month and the past few months as well. I don't play midrange shaman. Is it a bad idea to try for legend this month?

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>>158309552
Do you enjoy bashing your head against a concrete wall?

>>158309395
If you're talking about kib's ressurect nzoth, then the best thing you can possibly hope for to mulligan is auchenai and circle. if its turn 3 you're going first, and he has trogg > golem >Coin wolfes, your best chances are if you auchenai circle on 4 and stabilize from there with priests and heals.

>>158305225
1/1 skeleton with +1 spell damage you mean.

>>158308663

>http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Evocation
>Your Evocation ability also causes you to regain 60% of your health over its duration.

>With the Invocation talent, you instead gain 10% of your health upon completing an Evocation.

>With the Rune of Power talent, you gain 1% of your health per second while standing in your own Rune of Power.

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Regenerative_Ice

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=11958/cold-snap

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=86949/cauterize

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What can Blizzard do this expansion to save Paladin?

>>158309975
make muster for battle a classic card

>>158309690

Nah, theres got to be a bad one in the bunch.

Skeleton 1/1 or possibly 0/1.

>>158310079

That's like making Totem Golem a basic card. Sure it's fairly above curve but it was the fact that there is a curve of avenge, minibot, muster...

It's the same with shaman, no one card is totally broken it's that they have such a strong set of 8 OP cards.

>>158309975
Anything. I just want Midrange Pally back

>>158309478

>none of those are played at 5-L1 on a regular basis :^)

>>158309975
make paladin hero power as cancerous as shaman's

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>>158309975

>>158310642
>>158309975
No more 4 mana paladin cards. They have it as bad as priests

>>158309975
Remove warrior

They need a legendary that buffs their 1/1 tokens to 2/1s with divine shields. As a perm effect on your hero so whatever source they're summoned from

>>158309552
go for it, I did it and it took about 5 hours of bouncing back from rank 1-4 before I got bored of games being decided by shaman hero power/lightning storm rolls and brawl outcomes.

It's better than the yogg meta last month, but it's about as satisfying as seeing how long it takes you to call 8 coin flips in a row. Unless you have some huge edge against the meta, everyone basically understands the matchups and a lot of the games come down to: who won at the mulligan, tie broken by (in order): barnes, lightning storm, totem roll, brawl, juggles, discard, and very rarely raven idol.

Barnes will just rob you of matches even if your opponent misplays. Rolling the correct totem at certain bosrd states immediately wins the game, flipping the board with high rolls on lightning storm, and all of this is irrelevant if they have their two opening plays and you don't (totem golem/trogg/claws, fire axe/raving ghoul, wild growth/mire keeper, etc)

>>158310642

>Lol imagine that with Stand again the Darkness and Emperor tick....o wait.

>>158310642
simply epic

>>158310735
That's fucking crazy. Having the hero power make Argent Squires is more than enough

>>158310528
I hit rank 5 on the 6th and have been fucking around trying to learn anyfin/control warrior. Those are all the decks i see on an hourly basis. There's a few more decks of all types, but they are much rarer. I almost didn't list dragon/pirate, but those plus discard are basically the only aggro I ever see.

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>>158309975

>>158305427
The treasuredigger reminded me of a certain quest.

Captain Cuergo
x/x
Deathrattle: Give all pirates in your deck and hand Deathrattle: 30% chance to put a map fragment into your hand.

Upper/Middle/Lower Map Fragment
If you have all three map fragments in your hand, transform them into Cuergo's Treasure Map.

Cuergo's Treasure Map
Summon 3 Treasure Hunting Pirates and add Cuergo's Hidden Treasure to your hand.

Cuergo's Hidden Treasure is actually 2-4 random cards: up to 1 Cuergo's Gold, up to 1 Quergo's Gold with Worm, up to 3 Parrot Skeletons and up to 3 Head rags.

Quergo's Gold
Gain 3 mana crystals this turn only.

Quergo's Gold with Worm
All friendly pirates gain +1 Attack, charge and trigger their enrage effects if they have any.

Parrot Skeleton
1/1
Pirate

Head Rag
Give a friendly pirate +1/+1.

>>158311136

>ranks 5 - 1 Legend

>>158310738
Thank you anon, this is the type of info I was looking for

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Valeera will be fixed this expansion

>>158309975
Give them early game and remove unhealthy aggro cards like Divine Favor to keep it in check

Am I playing wrong against mages? They just seem to have an endless stream of removal every fucking turn and still manage have minions.

Am I suppose to just hit them in the face?

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Ayyy le mayo

Ooze never felt so good.
I run two

>>158311398

>Those cartoon /d/ lips

Ruined.

>>158311610

what deck are you playing

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>>158311650
...and a fitting end to the game.

It's shit like this that makes HS fun. Make a control deck and completely destroy your opponent.

>>158311730
what are you some kind of faggot?

>>158311610
If you have board control against tempo mage they're usually fucked. They're not freeze and rarely can burn you out from hand

>>158306249
>wah wah muh aggro
>>>>>>>/r/eddit

>6 mana 5/5 Taunt - costs one less for each totem played (Wherever it is!)
>7 mana 6/6 nothing - costs one less for each beast played when in your hand.

Explain this one to me.

>>158311887
>If you have board control against tempo mage they're usually fucked

What is flamestrike, firelands portal, flamewaker + coin + missiles etc.

Tempo mage is a good deck for a reason. It can apply a lot of pressure but the come back mechanics are definitely there too.

>>158311829
Enter the Colosseum turned out to be a pretty decent card.

>>158312035
I run it as a one of, just as an extra board clear. It's not bad by any means, and a definite surprise factor after my opponent thinks its safe to flood after the second equality is gone.

>>158312035
stop lying

>>158311991
blizzard can't design shit, who'd have thought it

>>158311995
I guess I'm just used to memeing on them with Spell Druid

>>158312129
post tag and server

>>158307894
What's the gimmick, then? What's the theme of the set if it's multiple localities, linked by postcards?

>>158312129
Do you have it? Kaiba1488#2995 EU

>>158311398
fixed to the bottom of the tier list maybe

>>158311829

>.png

Can you just KYS

>>158312271
stay in denial, Uther, and enjoy your last days on ladder before the rogue onslaught

>>158312374
epic post m'lad. submit it to r/4chan

>>158312384
Actually playing Reno Rogue on rank 4 atm.

Still likely that rogue wont get shit

Ask your ISP to give you .png support then. For fuck's sake, do you seriously expect people to convert to jpg, which takes ~10 times the time it takes to take the actual screenshot, just because you have a very shitty modem?

>>158312501

how about a 200mb image next time

>>158312665
>using image files when you could just convert all your photos to webm for ultimate compactness

>>158312917
>2016
>Not saving images in .txt
You're embarassing yourself.

>>158312917
>wasting bandiwidth on images when you could just describe a picture in text

They say a picture paints a 1000 words. Well a 1000 words takes up a lot less space than a picture.

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How many wins lads?

>4chan doesn't allow massive bitmaps

>>158312665
>paste shit in paint
>crop
>save as jpg

wtf I lost so much valuable time, I hate jpg now

I'll never get tired of this games queue system fucking with you

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>>158313114
you need more bytes to fit 1000 words than you would need to put a 6KB image on 4chan

fucking shitter

>clear shaman's board completely 3 times over
>they still refill within a turn and push face

What the fuck did they think was gonna happen when they designed those retarded cards?

Friendly reminder the worst class in the game is, and always will be, Mage.

No matter what deck is top tier and cancer, it will never be as ridiculous as Mage is with its stupid amount of versatility and unpredictability.

Mage is the purest form of cancer in this game.

>>158313418
Still a lot more work than
>press print screen
>post picture
Just because you can't afford to download a 3 MB picture.

>>158313709
It wouldn't have happened until you retards complained

Now Priest is gonna become cancer in the next set

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I am not sad, but I am not happy either.

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Actually try to defend this card.

>tfw you outskill your opponent with 3x perfect topdecks

>>158313754

4chan can't afford it.

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>>158313710
>Perpetually top tier
>Based around entirely versatility and bullshit combos from hand you can't predict
Hmm, well played

Why isn't spirit claws a totem?

>>158313874
It's a worse Lava Burst

>>158313874
What's so bad about it?

>>158313874
Literally nothing wrong with it

>>158313987
Sure speaks volumes when the hero that's made to be versatile can't out-versatile a hero based entirely around broken high tempo spells.

Muh "choose one" mechanic is nonsense when either choice is balanced around the mana cost and one is better than the other in 4/5 situations

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How's this?

>>158313994
1 mana 0/1 totem battlecry equip spirit blaws

>>158314209
Druid shits on mage though

>>158314227

>Pay 4 mana
>Gain 2 kill commands and a quick shot

No thanks.

>>158314315
totem has spell damage

>>158313710
>Perpetually top tier cancer
When secret paladin was a thing
>bullshit combos from hand
>angry tree noises were also a thing

>>158314008
>>158314093
>>158314183
>basic
>4 mana
>6 damage
>in every deck because it's THAT strong
>in every deck because it's THAT versatile
>kill most single minions at 4 and 5 mana cost
>kill most single minions at 6 mana cost with a fireblast
>paired with all the other high tempo removal this is just a back up to deal 1/5 of a heroes health for 4 mana

Removal in this game is terminal. Mage has too much of it, this is the prime example of how strong removal is. It's a basic card you get from the start of the fucking game and it's 2x in virtually every deck because it's so immensely useful in every aspect of the game. Unless it's a win or lose situation, drawing Fireball is NEVER bad.

>>158314335
Irrelevant

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>>158314589
How can a man be this butthurt from a single class that isn't even top tier meta defining

>>158314525
>>158314703
>these decks that got nerfed were too strong
>these decks are better right now
>this thus disproves that mage as a whole (from release) is not overly strong.
yeha okay that's some real logic there

stupid animeposter

>>158313994
They should give shaman windfury totem. 0/1 Adjacent minions have Windfury.

>>158314375
2 kill commands and a quick shot is 8 mana.

What's with the 3 gold mages I just played at rank 16 playing the exact same decks

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>>158314745
>>158314589
God damn anon, keep it coming

>>158311610
No single answer. There's three primary kinds of mage decks:

""Tempo"" (really a minion based combo deck):

This deck when piloted properly will utilize minions with spell syngery to win the board and then finish you off with burn spells and some big baddie: rag, antonidas, yogg, (less often Rhonin, Maly).

You usually win by making them run out of stream and killing them before they can reload, possibly having to race them down before they start burning face.

Control/Grinder:

If you are a minion deck, create conditions where you out-tempo their removal and have a plan for doomsayers and flame strikes. If you lack burst that doesn't require a board, you need to win very quickly.

Iceblock mages:

Main variant will look to kill you with a single turn of burst, often pre-empted by alexstraza. You need to do everything to pop their ice block before they have enough mana to play alex or you lose.

The other variant will fight you on board for turns 1-4, don't let them sink minion damage into your face and make them use their burn spells on minions

>>158314589
>>158314703
Not that anon, but he's right. Fireball will always be the single best card in the game until they change it. Which obviously, they never will.

>>158313874
it's a worse shadow strike

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What do I put in to make moat lurkers good? Best i've been able to pull off is cairne(with thaurissan) against control warrior for that sweet anti brawl meme

>>158313874
It's a 4 mana frostbolt that does 3 more damage but doesn't freeze

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>>158315272
I can think of at least one better card than Fireball

>>158315284
No it isn't. You draw it at any point in the game and if it isn't a win or lose situation it doesn't matter. 6 damage is valuable at any point of the game as long as drawing it doesn't cost you the game. It does reliable removal, and can force the opponent into a defensive play as opposed to going aggressive... or just kill them because it does so much damage

>>158315369
how about don't use moat lurkers?

>>158315496
Wow dude I mean I can't even right now

>>158315495
>4 mana kill a minion
>sometimes kill the opponent
wow it's mediocre

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>>158315429
Or this one

>>158313874
Fiery War Axe - 2 mana 6 damage
Firebal 4 mana - 6 damage

>>158315556
>skip the point that makes me wrong
typical

the strength of being able to dictate what your opponent does in the next turn is something mage can do ten times better than any other class.

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>>158315603
Looks like trash to me

>>158315635
okay. keep going i love hearing shitters' game theory

>>158314589
Polymorph is better by that logic.
>Turns 10 mana minions into a 1/1

>>158315429
>wild growth over innerfire or even prep
lalmao

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>>158315603
>>158315429
>>158315668
How about this one? Pity its stuck with the shittiest class in the game

>>158315707
hah i called him shit first, i win!

>>158315731
versatility and combination with other broken cards is what makes fireball absurd

>>158315761
You never keep it in the opening hand unless you nut drew.

>>158315747
>Inner fire
Looks like we got a real memester here

>>158315805
keep going buddy

what are your thoughts on the card savannah highmane?

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>wake up
>pirate expansion

>>158315883
whoops I meant innervate

>>158313874
It's a 4 mana Ragnaros that does 2 less damage, doesn't leave a body on the board, and only works once, but you can use two in a deck and choose your target

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>>158313874
Fireball is such a good card

>>158316036
wow it's basically ragnaros

>>158316036
No anon, it's a chillwind yeti with +2 attack and charge that dies at the end of your turn and can ignore taunt.

>>158316103
>gain 2 mana
>good
>this meta
>with this removal

lol

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reposting since i missed the new thread

>>158295069
Dragon hunter? Does that actually win?
Here's my ridiculous nzoth list. I'm 51% with it right now.
One of the biggest strengths is the element of surprise. With yours, everyone knows you're nzoth as soon as you drop a hoarder, cairne, sylv, or chillmaw.

I wish huhuran was 4 mana, sylv/cairne/highmane > princess would be glorious.

>>158313418
Why would anyone do that?
This is you right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqmKg6QQTw
We're running out of internet! Save the bandwidth!

>>158316179
if only you could use innervate to cast spells

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>>158306417
>I miss Naxxramas

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>>158316373
>Bring out your dead
>*coin noises*
>Bring out your dead
>Heh, Greetings
Can Fireball do this :^)

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>>158316373
>there will never be another sludge belcher
>there will never be another loatheb
feels excellent lads

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>>158316373
Nowhere near as cancerous as what we have today. I would welcome back pre-nerf Undertaker with open arms about now.

>>158306249
What the fuck is wrong with you people, do you not want aggro to exist at all?
Blizz slowed down the meta dramatically with karazhan and the nerfs, this is the slowest we've had in a while now.
Aggro shaman is dead, eboladin is dead, zoo is weak, face mage is weak, dragon warrior is on its last legs, pirate is as inconsistent as always, etc.
The only strong aggro deck left is face secret hunter.
>fuck aggro shitters
>fuck cucktrol fedora warriors
>fuck braindead curvestone decks
Seriously, does /hsg/ think only combo decks should be allowed to exist?

>>158316646
no, combo decks are uninteractive and burst damage is cancer

>>158316646
>do you not want aggro to exist at all?
That would honestly be very ideal

>>158316646
I don't enjoy playing this game at all

Which card were you hyped for but it turned out to be utter shit?

For me it was Troggzor and Rhonin

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>start playing midrange shaman at rank 19
>up against some hunter fag
>dont play anything turn 1
>he coins and plays kings elekk
>totem golem gets revealed
>mfw he concedes instantly

>>158316646
I just want to be able to leave the board state unanswered for 1(one) turn and not die to 10+ every class is packing

>>158316952
Vol'jin. I wasn't hyped for any WotOG or Kara cards.

>>158316202
>extra credits
thanks, but no. care to elaborate?

>>158316532
You are out of your goddamn mind. Shaman isn't even that bad.

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>>158316952
TGT will save Shaman I thought

>>158317035
Vol'jin was good though

>>158317087
tl.dr.
We're running out of Internet!!!1
Trust me, I'm a chipmunk.

>>158316646

I would like there to be more than 1 (one) viable midrange deck

>>158317184
create one faggot

>>158316952
Hobgoblin. I'm still crying.

>>158317169
It did, totem golem and thunderbeef are from TGT.

Riddle me this faggots

Warrior had (and has) one of the best decks in the game at some point
Warlock had (and has) one of the best decks in the game at some point
Mage has never had a gamebreakingly overpowered deck

Yet Mage is the most common golden portrait (the others 2 and 3), and whichever one is best is the most overused netdeck

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>Play 50 shaman cards quest
>Literally put every single shaman card I can in the deck
>Massive winstreak
I think something is wrong with this game guys

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>>158317283
Yeah, all those shamans running around during TGT were a real terror

>>158317175
it's just that hiro apparently fails to monetize the site to a good enough extent and the hosting costs are too high.
overblown images and screenshots that literally dont need to be this big are probably the biggest culprit for that, aside from /hr/ and incompetence.

>>158317184
Just make a regular midrange shaman and change one card :^)

>>158317289
>Mage has never had a gamebreakingly overpowered deck
Freeze Mage you faggot. Mech mage was easy as shit to craft as well

>>158317372
Fortunately patrons and minibots kept faggot Thrall in check for a time. They are heroes we need.

>>158317543
I hope you realise I was sarcastic. Shaman was still legitimately dog shit even with TGT cards.

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Someone post Hafu looking at that dude all lovingly. I feel like killing myself.

>>158316952
Blackwater Pirate.
Its stat distribution and effects are fine, the problem is its hard to get a tempo play where it matters.
If sharp fork's weapon was 2 mana it would see more play just from sharp fork, blackwater - free winaxe.
The problem is that warrior doesnt need that tempo and rogue doesnt have a two cost weapon.
I guess paladin would use it but paladinpirate isthe jankiest thing in exsistance.
>>158317340
No shit.

The problem with muh aggro isnt aggro itself, its how it is achieved - just dogpiling overstatted minions over and over. The minions keep getting better but the value of removal is around the same.
But if they make removal more powerful then it wipes out an even larger percentage of cards then what the overstatted minions already have.

>>158317497
Mage is struggling since the Old Gods.

This meta is absolutely dominated by weapon classes. All the other classes don't stand a chance. If this trend continues, non weapon classes will go extinct in standard.

>>158317497
Neither were top decks in their heyday

The answer is because Fireball is broken

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Any NA bro wanting to trade a Play a friend quest?

>>158317702
just google hafu nudes

>>158317786
Freeze mage was beyond broken before it got half its cards nerfed

>>158317639
So? You got a lot of good toys. Look at priest, he got it rough unlike Thrall.

>>158317856
>trade
get out jew

>>158317745
Druids don't have weapons

>>158317975
Yeah, Shamans have it good right now. But that doesn't change the fact TGT didn't do shit for Shaman for like half a year until LoE and Whispers gave Shaman more tools.

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>used to hit rank 5 each season
>on course to finish this season at rank 14
thanks bliz

>>158317710
>Blackwater Pirate.
That's not the only thing holding that card back. It's just not that good in general.

>what are you removing from your deck to accommodate BP? It better be worse than BP otherwise there's no point
>just how many weapons are you even packing to make BP a worthy consideration? What if you have to play it on turn 4 and you don't have a weapon in hand? 4 mana 2/5 is garbage that doesn't even kill a shaman 1 drop
>what synergy is there? Running a pirate deck is fine, but there are better cards to be used even in a pirate deck
>for 4 mana you could be packing one of the multitude of versatile, universally good minions that almost every class has.

There's no point defending bad cards, anon. BP is just that, a tier-3 card.

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>>158311398

All you're getting is more cards that let you not play Rogue.

>>158318026
Druid is pretty shit. It's only playable because Fandral is broken.

>>158317710
Yeah, no class wants that pirate. Warrior uses only cheap war axe and gorehowl, rogue doesn't play weapon cards anymore, hunter uses only eaglehorn bow. Paladin doesn't get anything from it, shaman enjoys 1 mana 3/3 weapon and ignores all others.

Rag is in almost every single deck nowadays. I gotta say it's really fucking annoying to have to deal with without BGH sometimes, and all the sticky deathrattle minions went away with GvG so it's hard to get something on board to trade. I might have to start slotting BGH.

>>158318182

Rank in HS is mostly a measure of how much you like the game, since any deck with above 50% winrate can get to Legend as long as you grind the ladder enough. Sounds like you don't play the game as much as you used to.

>>158311398
>they're just going to push more terrible tempo cards on her and then complain that nobody plays her
I'll play her. I love tempo Rogue and hate combo shit even if it's infinitely better

>>158318182
just play shaman for 2h

>>158318424
Just hex it Thrall

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fucking savage

>>158318424
>Rag is in almost every single deck nowadays.
thank blizzard nerfing bgh

>>158318162
Doesn't change the fact all expansions since WotOG and Kara did nothing to rogue, paladin, priest and mage. Their arsenal changed as much as shaman after totem golem, healing wave and destruction. So unlike Thrall they didn't get sweet loving every fucking set.

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>>158318504
I'm scared of the rotation because Miracle will actually be kill without Emperor T and Tomb Pillagers

>>158318182
>rank meaning anything

lol
competitive in this game is absolute shit.
ranks mean nothing until you're above rank 3, then it becomes a psychological battle between people who know eachothers names, playing off of expectations instead of autopilot decking.

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>>158318458
Exactly and the fundecks

>>158318458
They've been talking recently of revamping the ladder and I really hope they do soon.

I made legend twice and I can hardly believe it considering how grindy the whole experience is. I seriously have no idea how people do it every season, it's just... boring. The current system completely incentivizes quantity over quality, so you're better off blazing through the ranks with a tempo deck than a good control deck.

Maybe not next expansion, but I think they will definitely change stuff up next rotation.

>>158318424
Hex or execute it

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>>158318601
Yeah but it also doesn't change the fact that TGT didn't save Shamans when everyone was hyping up Thrall's second coming

>>158318709
>emperor
>relevant

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>>158318709
thinking about all the cards rotation will and has killed makes me sad
GvG was cancer but I like tribes, having lots of them makes it feel like my deck has a unified theme so I liked the idea of mechs and it sucks that they died with GvG (assuming Gadgetzan doesn't bring them back)
I should probably just go play YGO for my fix

>>158318574
>fucking savage
le upvoted :)


I swear you faggots are more autistic than the DSP haters. Don't bring your e-celeb bullshit faggotry into the threads, nobody wants you here.

>>158318882
I didn't hype it and wished shaman only demise. Boy, was I right.

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>>158318574
He's just a young hothead. Over time, he'll calm down some and stop taking it so serious. But the Internet will have every little bitch he ever threw. How terrible.

>>158318720
Cute, anon.

>>158319267
Anon, cute.

>>158313709
>clear shaman's board completely 3 times over
>they still refill within a turn and push face
Stop and think about that for a while and you'll realize what happened.

Let's say Alice is playing a control, combo, or control-combo deck (eg anyfin or nzoth pally). She's playing from hand until she pulls the trigger on her win condition.
Her deck packs cheap/powerful AoE, removal, healing, and general stall.

And let's say Bob is playing some kind of balanced midrange deck, with combo and snowballing mechanics. He's playing from the board the whole game.

So Bob spends many turns and all of his cards carefully building an offense on the board.
Alice plays pyro > equality. Bob concedes.

Next game Bob thinks "ok so i won't overextend this time, i'll play it conservatively".
He plays conservatively. He pushes face damage slowly and incrementally.
Alice pulls her combo and kills him instantly.

Bob can't win the matchup with fair cards. If you're a developer and for some reason you prefer Bob's playstyle and want it to be favored, you go and print insanely unfair cards. Now he can often refill the board instantly after the clears, so he wins the matchup 55% of the time.

And that's how midrange shaman happened.

>>158318882
>>158319487
Blizzard does it on purpose so that they can "give people what they want" and punish them for it so they won't ask for anything again. Everyone's going to hate the shit out of Priests when they get buffed, and the cycle will just continue forever.

>>158319486
get a load of this retard

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Wins?

>>158319770
he's right

>>158319716
>everyone's gonna hate on priests even more

People already despise them even though they are probably the worst class except for maybe rogue. If you guys think shaman was bad, when Anduin becomes Thrall-tier the anal devastation will be endless.

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What the fuck.

>>158319781
All very solid cards. Good curve. Easily seven.

>>158315139
I suppose the top ranks are filled with copypasted shitter shamans who dusted their whole collections to make their decks, so people who were usually in high ranks are in the bottom now. This means us low rankers are in the gutter.

>>158319930
Lurk more dumbass

>>158319930

Easy deck bro...Priest promotes dragging the game out to play cards.

>>158319930
play a friend in the priest mirror
steal each others cards and drag it out

>>158319930
post tag and server

>>158319770
Do you want to keep waiting for people to agree with you, or is it just fine to move on?

>>158320396
He's too Jewish or he would have done so already. No free gold here, leave folks.

>>158318235
Its effect is justified for the cost (its a 1 mana reduction overall if you have a weapon to play into) its just that nothing is good enough to use its effect in the first place. Your best bets are argent or win axe and those arnt good enough since win axe would have been used anyway.

>>158314589
>>158313874
So fireball is a good card. Why is that a problem?
A strong card is not necessarily a bad thing that needs to be fixed.

>>158317184
>I would like there to be more than 1 (one) viable midrange deck
See >>158319616. The archetype as a whole is not viable right now.
Midrange shaman is an artificial exception created with extremely OP cards.

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Place your bets on the upcoming expansion theme:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11499158

http://www.strawpoll.me/11499158

http://www.strawpoll.me/11499158

>Trump hasn't streamed Hearthstone in a week
has the Mayor officially declared the town dead?

>>158321954
He's fucking addicted to Civ 6 isn't he?

>>158321945
Add a "fuck off" option and you have my vote.

>>158321945
fingers crossed for tribe support

>>158313874
It's exactly "playable" on the power curve, along with just about every single mage card ever made.

You aren't even spouting memes, you just have shit opinions and you're a retard.

>>158321945

Copy and pasting old cards from the look of it. Couldn't even be bothered with a different background?

Probably gonna be some summer holiday shit to juxtapose winter.

>>158321954
He's been looking to get off this game for forever and Civ 6 is giving him the oppurtunity. He'll come crawling back once the next set hits and his subs demand he switch back over.

>>158322202
Take it easy, anon. No need for such vitrol. Dude didn't even call you a nigger or anything.

>>158322064
I seriously can't stand Trump, but I can't help but laugh when he was drunk and the question went around about what everyone would be doing if they weren't HS streamers and he blurted out that he'd be playing Civ 6.

>>158322220
>Copy and pasting old cards from the look of it.
but that was the last expansion

>>158322202
>"exactly playable"
lets be honest here how many times have you considered cutting fireball
it's an autoinclude in most mage decks

>Name a serious non meme deck without fireball.

>>158322570
midrange shaman

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Glad some other people here agree fireball is a problem card

>>158322657
But how does it feel knowing that Fireball will never be nerfed?

>>158322610

Well played!

Now name a mage deck

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>>158322448
>most mage decks
>not all mage decks

>>158322756
name a serious non meme deck without wild growth
name a serious non meme deck without war axe

>>158322840
>>158322756
There are cards like that in every class t.b.h.
Staples are fine and exist in every card game

>>158322448
but polymorph is way more versatile for control mage

>Describe a new mechanic that would work well in Hearthstone.

Well?

>>158322448
Yeah, but Mage decks aren't exactly fantastic for the most part.

Something like Flamestrike should be a good card, but you have 0 mana TFB that doesn't die to Flamestrike, comes out before turn 7, and you'll be dead before you reach 7 mana.

You can use your 4 mana Fireball to kill their 0 mana TFB for a severe tempo loss, but how will you deal with the Thunderbluff and 4 buffed totems on the board.

Frostbolt, Fireball, Flamestrike exist as what I would call "benchmark" cards for removal. Mage's identity is having the most efficient raw damage based spells in the game, so you should make everyone's spells that do damage slightly worse than Mage's.

Mage would kill for Prep, Sap, Innervate, Execute, or Equality, which are all higher raw power spells than Fireball.

>>158313390
>innervate without card draw or reach

You'll still do decent, but that might end up deciding games against any value decks

>>158322915
>Wild Growth

Really shit example mate. Try Swipe.

>>158322448
many times when making control mages

also no one ran 2x fireball in reno freeze

>>158323015
Shadowverse's Countdown would be pretty neat.

>>158322915
j4ckies aggro token druid pre standard

>>158323149
not really, my point is that they're staple cards that are essential to the class

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>>158321945

It's obviously something to do with travels judging from the image.

Pic related is one of the cards that I managed to sneak from my father's laptop computer device (she works at blizzard).

>>158323015
fuck off ben, you are raking in millions of dollars a day, maybe do the balancing yourself?

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>>158321945
Why are you fucking cuckolds so obsessed with polls?
>le poll about X
>le poll about Y xD
Go find a job already.

>>158322915
>name a serious non meme deck without wild growth
beast druid, 2014 token druid

>>158323168
>nobody ran two fireballs in a deck whose gimmick is to run one of everything
Really makes you think.

>>158323303
Reno freeze includes many duplicates actually

>>158323015
Charge

You can use your minions to attack the turn they're played. Seems like a good idea and can lead to interesting trades with buffs

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>>158323015
Ignore the cards themselves, look only at the idea.

>>158323290

We did we get 1 cent per vote.

>>158314375
Emperor discount 2 turn kill, 5 card combo. Npnp sounds playable

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>>158323168
gottem

>>158323303
reno freeze had like 8 doubles retard. it cut fireball because it's the most useless