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This general is for discussing new and upcoming MMOs, or MMOs with populations that are too small to sustain their own generals.

>Recommendations
http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu

>Game databases
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/

>Unlocalized MMOs
http://pastebin.com/uZyHtnDD

>Popular upcoming MMOs
Bless: http://bless.aeriagames.com/
Revelation Online: https://ro.my.com/en
Dark and Light: http://www.playdnl.com/
Albion Online: https://albiononline.com/en/home

Previous thread: >>157976845
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RevO Pasta! Beta in 4 days!

>FAQ - READ BEFORE POSTING! Seriously, this baby has everything you need to know about the game.
http://pastebin.com/SWMZbSgY

>Steam Group
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RevelationOnlineGeneral
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Fuck. I need (F).
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>>158091914
I also just noticed this event doesn't add to fishing exp which sucks. I wanted to train fishing.
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>>158091914
How many tries did that take?

>>158092031
Well that bites, I was going to have a go at the Adventure talent after this awful Ninja one. 190k more until Expert. I'm hoping another full day of grinding will reach that tomorrow.
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>>158092218
Not long, but I probably got lucky. You can see that I only used 15 baits.
Also if you plan on training Adventurer then I recommend training Rest and Campfire. They give a crap ton of exp for little work. I'm only training fishing because I got too lazy running Karu Forest for the stupid book.
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>>158092368
Okay, maybe I didn't get lucky. Got a second one.
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>tfw revofags worse than elfags
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15 minutes till I'm forced to use ugly armor.
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>>158092503
Why are you always so full of despair?
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how hard and fast do I have to hit in Gladdy pvp in DN?
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>>158094450
Know your rotation
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>>158091708
>>158091853
RevO can probably be taken out of the OP since they have their own thread over here: >>158027293
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>>158095065
Please don't make us go there. It's the worst general since the TERA general.

It's like every dumb asshole was forced over there.
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>>158095179
They're just people from other threads trying to ruin the community before the game is even out because they feel insecure about the populations of their own games.
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Can't decide if I should do the event or train fishing.
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>>158095734
Event.
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>>158096708
I'm at 80% fishing though.
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Yay. Got one piece. Just need the rest of the set.
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>>158095291

>you actually believe this
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I wish there was more of a community to kritka, I cant find a hub of information for it anywhere.
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>21 / 7 / 11 / 8
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Someone made a comparision of the two DN artbooks

http://media.weibo.cn/article?id=2309404033361067778189&jumpfrom=weibocom
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This place is dead all of a sudden.
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>>158102837

Its 5 am
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>>158102837
>/revog/
>75 IPs

>/mmog/
>13 IPs

Gee, I wonder why.
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>>158102985
Your point?
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>>158102985
No, it's 1 pm
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>>158102837
The shitposting is all gone though.
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>>158094450
Something like this maybe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxm3MGCpFKc
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penis
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>>158103374

The evil it's been defeated.

Ah, I want to go check my crops but I'm away from my PC
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And done, shit colors but I got those dyes for free. I think I'll continue fishing to get all the costumes.
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Well anyway, gotta open a topic one way or another.
So there are many MMOs out there that has some kind of crafting skill, or "life skill" to some.

Which crafting skill are you guys using or are used to doing while smacking hostiles around? I personally haven't gotten deep into crafting, but almost tried out Tailoring in Ragnarok Online 2 before my interest dwindled.
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>>158106338
Wakfu, farmer, baking, cooking and a little bit of fishing. I used to make a crap ton of money just making bread all day.
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>>158100429
>he actaully believe that
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>>158106257
Not bad for free dyes.

I bought 4 pure black (2 for hat) but it was totally worth it.
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I'm going to sleep. Fishing makes me sleepy because it's so comfy. I didn't get anything done today except fish for some costumes.
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>>158106883
>fish for some costumes
Wait, how? Fishing gives a chance to snatch costumes, fish can be sold for gold, or you're vying for a costume rewarded by fishing a lot?
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>>158106821
I should buy new eyes and a mouth. But all of them look like crap and the only good combination is yours with that costume. But I don't want to copy you.
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>>158106958
>Fishing gives a chance to snatch costumes
This. Event going on right now.
Or you can just buy the costumes since they're cheap as fuck, like 10-50k cheap.
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>>158106986

How about smug anime girl?
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>>158107061
Fucking hell. That's nice.
Farming, fishing and cooking have taken the backseat on dev priorities in Dragon Nest. Farming is only viable for apples that can be used to craft the only ways to revive after getting killed in a raid, and cooking has just been featured in an event recently.
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>>158107258

I miss the old farm, I don't see why they had to replace it with the hot springs instead of just extending it. Worst part is that now you can only farm one plant at time.
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The concept art is better than what we got
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>>158081989
Never got to the end game hostly just got to 75 and quit after they gave me some 75 level up thing.
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>>158091853
RevO delayed to November 3rd Closed Beta
Apparently they weren't ready.

https://ro.my.com/en/news/announcements/cbt1-pre-download-status-update
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Laaame. Got excited, thought I was going to have something to play today
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>>158111012
YOU FAGGOTS DIDN'T BUY ENOUGH DELUXE PACKS! FUCK YOU BE A GOOD GOY AND BUY MORE DELUXE PACKS!
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>>158109558
no shit, considering how things normally look in game
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>>158113340

What? The model looks fine in game.

I'm talking of the long brunette haired Machina.
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So I'm playing Kritika and the theif looks fun but the rating on her is the hardest.

What exactly makes her harder to play with? Currently I've only played with Eclair who apparently is babbymode but dat delinquent school girl attitude.
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Anyone wants to run some nests on DN SEA green/west?
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what the fuck
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>>158113986
Depending on the class it's harder to keep combos going. Also it's the whole "death by a thousand cuts" thing, a whole lot of action in order to get good damage.
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Butts
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>>158116332
Shame skyforge is boring
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>>158116463
Yeah, it was amazing at launch, but what can you do?
Hopefully they find a way to fix the dungeon finder, scale people up to match the highest "level" or something because I can't find a group for anything.
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>>158116721
Never played at launch. I got in at ascension. The levels are pretty and I dig the concept and the final fantasy aesthetic they got going but the gameplay loop sucks.

I can't be assed to complete the open world maps for the enemy knowledge to get the gunslinger on top of clearing the levels to get to the temple. Even though that was my main motivation. Maybe if the combat was more fun but it's too fucking dumbed down and enemies take too many hits to kill so I can't really pretend it's like some knockoff musou thing
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>>158117325
Yeah, it probably helps that I have all the classes since I've unlocked them the old way and don't have to wade through the maps in order to unlock them.

It's just something I run around in when I'm not playing BDO or something else.
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Any guides for kritika and the characters?
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>>158116721

What went wrong?
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Guessing Revelation is coming back to this general.
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>>158121546
nah, they're big boys now.
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>>158121651
12 more days of not doing anything will most likely kill them.
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>>158121720
they can shitpost there whenever they want
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>>158121546
>>158121720
>>158121774
We are bussy fighting off BnS and BDO avatarfag. Send help.
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>>158122048
They will stay until the gen dies.
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>>158121546
They pushed the CBT back, so it doesn't make sense to continue the threads. Might as well let the current one die and hold off on making another one.
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Any MMO I can play as skeleton?

I'm fulfiling my calcium fantasies in tales of maj'eyal but I cant spook anyone there.
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>>158122827

Someday?
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>>158122827
WoW
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You know I actually kinda liked Iria Ii in mabinogi.

Wish more of the stories were like that.
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>>158122921
God damnit, played the hell out of it as Undead. I can't look at it anymore.
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>>158120961
Alot of people didn't like the cap on advancement currencies, but they fixed that later with a catch-up mechanic. Probably far too late for that though.

Matchmaking for everything is based on your Might score, which is essentially level, but as the older playerbase keeps scaling up, the newer players still can't catch up fast enough so there's huge troughs of not being able to find groups. This is still as large a problem as it always was.

And now, classes have been dumbed down to mobage levels, you don't even get to pick which skills you want, you just unlock what's there. No fun allowed.

It's such a shame they squandered all the potential, even if it wasn't the best combat I really enjoyed the aesthetic. The sphere grid was cool and allowed you to constantly feel like you were growing while you worked towards the classes that you wanted to unlock and in whichever order you wanted.
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I need tits and ass but not in blade and soul recommend me a game. Also no revo on china that game's shit.
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>>158123472
Scarlet Blade
BDO with the nude patch
TERA
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>>158123570
>scarlet blade
What the fuck I thought it's dead?
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>>158123369

Well that sounds like shit, first two points are at least fixable but dumbing down the characters looks like something hard to revert and a big fuck up.
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>>158123653
RIP
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>>158123472
>revo on china that game's shit.
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Fishing is so comfy. The costumes are also a delight. First time I've checked out the Dressing Room, and now I feel like I need to collect them all.

Is costume hunting one of the aspects to endgame in Mabi?
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>>158123472
Kritika
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>>158123653
There's a private server or some shit one
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>>158124070
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>go to sleep
>wake up
>only 30 new posts
Why is this place dead?
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>>158126462
Because RevO general is up.
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>>158126462
/revog/ is coming back soon. Should be alive then.
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This game just makes me want to download Vindictus
Though I'm enjoying the boobage
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What's with all the Kritika shilling lately? Game is mediocre at best. PvP is garbage.
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>>158127613
It a fun beat em up and I don't give a shit about pvp
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>>158091708
>Kinda hoping Bless doesn't end up as shit.
Revo looks kinda fun too,Could be a good year.
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>>158127613
Boredom
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>>158127613
>Talking about a game is shilling
Fuck off back to /v/ mate and let people talk about what they want to talk about.
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this general should be DELETED
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>>158127871
Give me 5 reasons why.
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>>158127990
>1
ded
>2
DED
>3
DED AS FUCK
>4
dedasfk
>5
END IT
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>>158128195
Its a place for dead games. So yes its going to be dead.
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>>158128195
Half the threads here are ded
Half the fuckin boards here are ded
Go try out reddit
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>>158127805
No one is talking about the game except for one guy who hasn't said anything about the gameplay aspects over the course of three threads now. His post are something like "Kritika is FUN!" and another anon is constantly asking the same questions on how to download the game and which servers to join(he got answers). There was another anon who asked about guides and stuff and the reply he got was "just go in blind".


Yeah shilling. But if you wanna talk about Kritika then let's talk about some Kritika.

It's one of the best action combat in any 3D MMO but needs a bit a work on the combat depth side. Aerial game is very weak in a game about juggling mobs. Cancels are too strict/limited and need to be opened up.
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>>158128418
Stop getting trigged by someone wanting others to play a game they are enjoying. So still fuck off back to /v/.
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>>158127696
revo is going to be GOAT
next big mmo right under ffxiv
SCREENCAP THIS
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>>158127696
>Kinda hoping Bless doesn't end up as shit.
aand you will be disappointed
game is absolute trash, you _literally_ complete it in one WEEK and then there's nothing to do there
developers feed us with promises but fail to deliver
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>>158128546
It's the same as BnS and BDO, settle down.
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>>158128418

"stop having fun"
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>>158124492
>scarlet blade actually has a private server
fucking why. i tried it when it came out and it was the most barebones mmo i've ever played. everyone only played it because it was some teenager clickbait and the founder pack allowed you to remove your characters clothes.
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>>158128418
>It's one of the best action combat in any 3D MMO

nice shilling, fag
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>>158128529
>Stop getting trigged by someone wanting others to play a game they are enjoying.
>Admits he is shilling.
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>>158128638
it's nothing like either of those you dumb cuck
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>>158128638
but it's not shit like blade and shit or shitskin desert offline
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>>158128529
>>158128721
>>158128797
Stop this samefagging.
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>>158128819
I have never played the game before. So you are grabbing are straws mate. I play Mabinogi and tera.
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spend those $18, fags. do it now goys

>not buying it for $18

buy it now poorfags

Lol enjoy not buying it
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>>158128871
>>158128939
Just accept it. It'll hurt less when it comes.
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>>158128819
>still doesn't know what shilling means

>>158128954
still getting triggered because people are talking about games
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Game with strong/good Pet/Summon (permanant) class?

Game with good/strong shapeshift class?
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>>158128997
>>158129096
Do you want to argue or do you want to talk about Kritika?
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>>158129085
why dontcha quietly accept your inevitable fate and fuck off to your bait and cuck general son

desperately trying to shill your ded game won't make it more alive
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>>158128954

nice try
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>>158129028
I just plan on waiting to play it I know I will most likely burn myself out if I try to play it now.
>>158129260
I already got too many games to play now not looking to add more..
>>158129298
That's some weak ass bait mate.
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>>158129338
nice edit.
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>>158129338
all me
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>>158129260
What's your 3 favorite classes?
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>>158129298
I don't play it, because it's bad, in the same way RevO is bad.
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>>158129403
What. I asked if you want to talk about Kritika or not.
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>>158129550
I'm not looking to play or talk about any new games.
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>>158129712
Then why are you here
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>>158129838
To talk about Mabinogi,LaTale, DN, RevOnline.
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>>158129506
you can't even explain why it's bad lol because you never played it
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>>158129479
in order:
Crimson Assassin
Ninjafus are the best. She has the second best aerial game, a lot of launcher and hard knockdowns. Love doing cross under combos. Plus she throws stars at the speed of light!


Demon Blade
Because Vergil. I don't need to say anything else.


ShadowMage
I knew from the very beginning that this class was going to be fun at fuck. I would even say he has the highest potential to create some cuhrayzee combos.


Valkyrie
I original didn't like nether classes but if I had to choose I would have went with Blood. Then I saw some high level Valkyrie tech that go me all hot and bothered.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BddXtUhT6ws

Good bye Lineage Eternal
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>>158129712
>>158129964
Then why the fuck are you replying to a post related to Kritika? Are you retarded or something? Maybe it's you that was triggered the whole time.
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>>158130084
>why it's bad
Thank you for admitting it's bad
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>>158130312
I was telling someone to STOP being trigged because they called some anon that was talking about Kririka a shill and told them to go back to /v/.
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>>158130346
nigger it's your job to explain why is it bad, preferably with your own experience involved otherwise your point is moot
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>>158128742
Because tiddies.

Now the real question is: Who wants to hop in and fuck around in it?

http://sb.vendettagn.com/
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>>158130445
Nigger is trying to bait but failing so badly.
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>>158130196

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKE7XS3fVPM
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>>158130724
A fucking (((mobile))) game?
I knew it was shit.
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>>158130438
You sound like a grown up, like, a 40 year old mom right now.

Please don't think I'm underage because I used "grown up". It's just a way to divide a 20 something year old from a middle aged adult with responsibilities.
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>>158130506
>download game
>log on
>remove clothes
>jerk off
>log off
I'm good, thanks.
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>>158129479
Now what classes do YOU like?
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>>158130724
WoW/Tera killer
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>Perfect Worlddoes a game that looks nice and not recycled from their othe rgames for once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2HA23Dd2jU

>shit gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABeFqzYpii0
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>>158131329
>Eclair
Unique skill system compared to the others, though I made her first, so I didn't realize this until I played the others. Pretty fun and easy linking together her skills, Vergil swords, and Dante's gun-fu.

>Crimson Assassin
Been a while since I last played a fun ninja class. Stacking bleed for stuns, nonstop back attacks, smooth skill combo synergy. Good stuff.

>Creator
I love heavy artillery. That's all.

I don't have other classes at a high enough level to really gauge how much I like them.
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>>158131139
>not wanting to be part of a scrappy guild fighting for pvp superiority.
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>>158130968
What's ya point?
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>>158133017
That your kids aren't in this thread causing a ruckus nor are any of your siblings children, and I don't think you're anyone's guardian either. So, you don't need to be the parent or adult of /mmog/.
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>>158133457
But I'm still going to do it and ya can't stop me. Plus anon I'm only 24 and I have no kids.
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>In your early 20s and your girl is barren
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>>158133965
>Or are you a faggot that likes to take it in the ass?

Oh look, it's anti-gay anon who loves bringing up the buttsex
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>>158134471
THE GUILD LEADER OF REVOG EVERYONE
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>>158134471
>say something gay
>ITS THAT ANTI-GAY ANON!!!!

I guess so, Parent-Kun..
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>>158134725
We all know how you love bringing up the gays despite hating them so much
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>>158134802
I simply threw out all the options as to why Parent-Kun doesn't have any kids of his own and yet he's acting like he does. At 24 you should be having unprotected sex your girlfriend, creampies every night. But if you just met your girl or she's an ex-slut then I suggest you have her checked first.

>inb4 something states that everyone here is a virgin
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>>158133965
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>>158133965
>tfw 24 and never had a man
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>>158135426
Just used your mic and I promise they'll come running like dogs. Girls can easily get attention. That's why I don't believe you, you lying piece of shit.
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>>158133965
>Having kids at 24
Nigga what?
>>158135426
My nigga just talk to a random guys and he will try to fuck ya. Also a bit of >>158135737.
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>>158134471

quick post purest form of love
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>>158135426
Don't worry, aside from one time in elementary school, when my friend and I got interested in sex and assfucked each other, I've never had a man too.

>>158135737
>Girls can easily get attention.
Fucking hell, everytime I hear gurl talk I cringe.
Pls no.
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>>158134725
Thtat's not me anon. I typed >>158135839.
>>158135937
Nigga you gay.
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>>158135910
>purest form of love
>of love

Bromance
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>>158136038
>Nigga you gay.

What? Why? I just dont like these high pitch sounds they make. How is this making me gay.
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>>158136108

yes exactly
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>>158136303
Anon the fuck are you going on about.
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>>158136267
I think you mistook kids with actual grills my mane
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>>158135426
because you're a girl (male)
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>>158133965
>have kids at 24
>divorce a year later
>get everything taken from me
>kill self

:^)
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>>158136303
>Humans do dumb things, we're no perfect.

It's as simple as not being a retard, you likely can't afford or look after a child, so under no circumstance is it ever worth doing it, guess that's too much to expect of the average human though.
>>
>>158133965
>>158135212
>>158136303
What does this have to do with MMOs?
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>>158135937
What anime is this?
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>>158136303

/mmog/
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>>158136459
>girl (male)
what does that even mean
you are either male or female dummy
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>>158136485
fucking this
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>>158136610
I'm gender fluid
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>>158136303
You should go to /r9k/ mate.
>>158136610
Its some dumb sadpanda meme.
>>
Well no one wants to talk about Kritika so we're talking about girls, gays and having kids.
>>
If I used to adore Ragnarok Online for like, 7 years, what would I enjoy playing?

I've bailed on League of Legumes. I need a time consumer to really enjoy.
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>>158136434
Both are annoying to listen to.

>>158136537
>What anime is this?
It's /tosg/

>>158136610
>you are either male or female dummy
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>>158136776
Mabinogi is a alright game and its a good time consumer. You can spend years and never get to end game or just level up to 10k levels.
>>
>>158136776

probably nothing
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>>158136776
Tree of Savior
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>>158136848
But its only Male or female. I swear people need to stop trying to be spiecal snowflakes.
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>>158137001
>Male or female

What about hermaphrodite?
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>>158136882
>that piece of shit
>anything like RO
Good one
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>>158136661
...
listen here twit, it is simple. if you can bear children, you are female. if you can sprinkle your watering pot to help female bear children, you are male.
>>158136663
maybe. what the hell is sadpanda anyway
>>158136848
that's some major mental problems there on your pic boy
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Anime is cancer.
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>>158137347
:^)

>>158137374
>what the hell is sadpanda anyway

I want normalfags to leave
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>>158137374
>what the hell is sadpanda anyway
God damnit.

>>158137379
>Anime is cancer.
Because fans are cancer. Same goes for games.
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>>158137562
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>>158137374
Honestly mate you should lurk more to learn what sadpanda is or look it up.
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>>158137374
>what the hell is sadpanda
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>>158137374
You don't understand me, you don't understand the things I have to go through with being gender fluid
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>>158137347
>>158136882
Played it. Was excited for it. Beta let me down,f ull release let me down. Seems like a shittily done grindfest.

Made me upset. I wanted so badly for it to be amazing.
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>>158137374
>what the hell is sadpanda anyway
Confirmed too young to be on this site
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>>158137789
Don't overstay your welcome.
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>>158137789
But if you admitted you weren't a "tumblrfag genderfluid" you wouldn't have to go through anything and you QoL would increase exponentially.
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>>158137374
>what the hell is sadpanda anyway

here's your (You)
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>>158137562
>>158137642
>>158137786
>>158137787
>>158137909
good good, feed more (you)s for me 2dpd wankers, who the fuck visits that at year 2016 anyway?
>>158137789
you either fertilize or be fertilized
no in-betweens
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>>158138137
>>
@158138137

kys
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>>158138137
>i was only pretending
>the perfect crime
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>>158138137
>Not going to sadpanda for all the loli and shota
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>>158138340
>loli and shota

I am listening
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>>158138340
>pic
I remember this, got sauce?
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>>158138460
Just look it up. Its not hard to find.

>>158138559
https://exhentai.org/g/983849/a540bc886b/
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>>158138649
Thanks Senpai.
>>
I woke up with a broken hand
in a castle made of sand
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>>158138649
What is a sad panda, anon? Is the panda actually sad?
>>
His name is Petey you faggots
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>>158139292
The panda is sad cuz it can't get to the loli and shota.
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>>158139273
that song is gay
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>>158139545
ur gay
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>>158139442
I'll just go on pururin. I've fucked with sadpander before and the addon recommended on that forum didn't do anything.

I'm probably just a dumbass. Scratch that. Im retarded.
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>>158139681
listen here u nigger

>1.
MAKE AN ACCOUNT ON THE REAL SITE
>2.
LOG IN THE SITE
>3.
OPEN SADFUCKINGPIECEOFSHIT
>4.
IF YOU FUCKED UP BEFORE, GO TO YOUR BROWSER OPTIONS AND DELETE COOKIKES
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Theres a kritika guild now if anyones still intrested.
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>>158139910
>1.

wow watch ur profanity

<2. okay what now

3.) it doesn't work

4.) ???

5. what are cookikes?
>>
>>158140008
Who are you?
>>
Anyone else hyped for cleric/acad awakenings on DN SEA/NA next month?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCQaJU79EbA
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>>158140205
Stop posting lewd images without sauce ;w;
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>>158140508
Uhhhhhh. I saw sauce a while back, and can't remember what it was. I think it was SFW, the text was just changed in the clipping there.
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>>158140205
Listen here you piece of garbage.

Make account here:
http://e-hentai.org/

Log into your account.

THEN.

Delete cookies from exhentai.

Now you're gonna ask me how you piece of shit. Aren't you?

if you're on firefox just go to options>privacy>delete individual cookies
then write exhentai and delete it, it should say "yay".

if you're on chrome:
settings>advanced>content settings(button)>all cookies and site data(button)

write exhentai, select it and delete it.

With either one make sure YOU DON'T HAVE THE SADPANDA OPEN WHILE YOU DELETE COOKIES.

if this don't work for you, i'll personally go there and fuck you up. fuck!
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I want RevO beta. ;_;
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>>158142178
12 more days!
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>>158141130
I'm rolling. I also love you anon.

Daiiiiiiiiiisuke nigga, daiiiiiiiiiisuke. <3

Sorry for messing with ya.
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>>158142327
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>>158142284
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OwO
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>>158142689
what's that?
>>
Do you have to be in the RevOnline beta to download the game?
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>>158142861
It seems so.
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>>158142906
Well that sucks.
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>>158142762
He noticed the bulge.
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>>158142972
I wonder if we torrent it, could those who dont have a key enter regardless
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>>158144668
Yes, because that's how it always works.

If you have the client you can play, doesn't matter if your account has the access.
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>>158128418
>how to download the game and which servers to join
I was about to ask that, also if it's translated.

>>158140008
I'm.
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>>158144668
Access to the servers is probably tied to your account and whether or not you have a CBT code.
>>
Anyone still play Pirates of the Burning Sea? I wonder how dead it is, I assume very.
>>
>>158148228

Never heard of it
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More concept art of the cat mount in Rev? I wonder when they're going to complete it so I know whether or not I need to set aside some fun money.
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Is /mmog/ playing kritika on SEA or thai servers?
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>>158150820
most of the eng players are on SEA.
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>>158150820
nobody plays kritika
>>
I'm curious about how many people here are playing Kritika now.
>>
>>158151619
>>158151586
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>>158151619
I play Kritika. No one else does. Another anon doesn't play it, he just downloaded it and another one is still trying to download it through VPN or something.
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>>158152521
I just downloaded it, anon. It's been surprisingly fluid so far despite being a hemisphere away
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>>158153215
>fatigue points
Please tell me that's not what I think it is.
>>
>>158153215
Kritika uses an infrastructure that is similar to DFO. If you want I'll carry you to advancement (lv15).
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>>158152521
I also play

>>158153215
I just started mage boy today. Dimension Controller is a blast.

>>158153409
Oh but it is what you think it is
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>>158123369
I cant believe how bad they fucked up the game with the new overhaul, seriously its like they want it to die. I love this game but its becoming boring and unplayable
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>>158153512
>If you want I'll carry you to advancement (lv15).
Eh, I wouldn't want to waste your time. It doesn't seem like it'll be hard to get 11 more levels.

>>158153409
It totally is
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>>158153772
>>158154764
Games that limit my playing is fucking stupid. Don't tell me how long I should play.
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>>158154868
Blame botters and dead people
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>>158154764
>tfw you will never have any kritika bros
But seriously, I just finish playing Overwatch with some friends and now I don't have anything to do.
>>
>>158155168
You're just trying to lure people in for homo rape aren't you.
>>
>>158155168
Good, I hope you never get any
>>
>>158155016
who has died playing a video game for so long, aside from that one chinese guy who died playing diablo 3 for like 5 days straight?
Also that's a retarded ideology to implement a fatigue system just because someone died once playing video games.
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>>158155498
Chinese people be crazy mon.
If dey want de shinies, dey get the shinies, even if it be a ticket to the next life.
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>>158155498
>he doesn't know the amount of koreans that kill themselves by playing for days nonstop
hah
>>
>>158155498
Google people dying for playing mmos for too long. You may be surprised
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>>158155409
>>158155468
Fine. Fuck this, I'm going to practice some Judith combos.
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>>158155784
This. I'm pretty sure it's illegal in Korea to distribute games without some method of limiting the players play time.
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>>158155915
it is already done externally by monitoring playtime whether the game supports it or not. Shit like this happens when you've a nanny state run by sjws.
>>
This doesn't really explain why fatigue is a thing in the west.

>m-m-m-muh bots
Since when did fatigue stop bots lmao
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>>158156184
It's because they don't want to recode the game when western publishers license the game.
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>>158155168
S-sorry, anon
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>>158156184
It stops them when they run out of fatigue :^)
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>>158156184
Live with it. It's part of gaming culture in the East now.
That said, not all East-based games have full implementation of Fatigue. DN, for example, has a non-restrictive fatigue system, meaning that a player with 0 Fatigue can still enter instances although with a massive EXP and item drop deficit.
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>>158156754
>massive
You get 0 EXP and 0 drops.
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>>158158501
>You get 0 EXP and 0 drops.
But thats wrong i still get exp and loot with 0 FTG
>>
>page 10
rip in piece
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>>158163718
Just like my ded mmos
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Should I invest my time in either Eve Online, FFXIV, GW2, The Secret World, Wildstar, or WoW?
>>
>>158163993
revo
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>>158163993
Secret World if you can handle retardedly hard quests, otherwise WoW.
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>>158164047
Looks like any other shitty asian grind and P2W MMO ever
>>
https://youtu.be/81ljJZMMgX4
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>>158164542
I heard that there will be a halloween sale. If that is true, is it worth to get the premium edition with all the issues, or the normale one (up to issue #5)?
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>>158164750
Your ignorance is bliss faggot.
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>>158164750
I love when people say this

It becomes obvious how many people are just PvEfaggots
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>>158163993
>all shit games
from left to right:
p2w
snorefest for erpfags
nice leveling experience, nothing else
dead game
literally dedder than ded
world of casuals

dark times for mmos
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>>158164750
Don't listen to >>158165109 and >>158165349

It does look like a shallow game on the surface, but it does bring a lot to the table in terms of content, especially if you like PvP.

>Instanced and open world PvP systems with weekly tournaments. 3v3, 10v10, 20v20, castle sieges, alliances, war declarations, and more - basically TERA, but expanded upon. 500v500 RvR is in development.
You can even craft war machines and carry half your guild into battle on giant mounts. It's cool, but not for everyone.
>>
>>158167684
I just told him exactly what you said and you tell him to not listen to me
>>
>>158168082
No one is going to listen to a shill who calls people faggots for not knowing anything about the game.
>>
>>158167684
Move your entire face up a bit to get rid of that 6head.
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>>158168706
I'm the other one.

>>158168950
That's how foreheads work retard
>>
>>158169143
>everyone's forehead is the size of a xbox

retard
>>
I'm thinking of playing Dragon's Nest. Where should I go and what should I do?
>>
>>158169478
There is literally nothing anatomically wrong about that head, you stupid fuck
>>
>>158170630
ayy lmao scum poster is trying to infiltrate, don your tinfoil hats
>>
>>158170358

Check the pasta in the OP, needs some tweaks but has all neccessary info.
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>get on DNNA
>three servers now at optimal capacity

its gaining a bit of ground?
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>>158171335
I'm glad

SEA has 3 servers with like 10 channels each and in peak hours speally events they get fucking crowded or even full and it's hell I really wish they add more channels or that they never merged the other two servers
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>>158152521
Kritika is fun
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>>158173834
>loli with pig fat fingers
>>
>>158173834
>>158152521
How do I eclair?
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>>158174104
Yes, you got a problem?

>>158174185
Idk, try to mash the buttons harder?
>>
Aren't DN and Kritika fully instanced games with basically no open world?

Why are you playing such garbage?
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>>158175308
gameplay > open world
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>>158175383
Why are you in the MMO general then
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>>158175492
because those games are MMOs
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>>158175674
What?
How many people can enter an instance?
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>>158175802
8
more in pvp

regardless, that's not what defines an mmo
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>>158175853
>8
Less than a moba, impressive.

Alright, humor me, what "defines an MMO"?
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when do they want my money

I want everything but the head piece
>>
>>158175963
These games are MMOs without the useless empty open world and significantly better gameplay. Tell me, how many people can you have in a single party in an MMO usually? Let me tell you, it's never more than 8, unless it's a raid, in which case you're still not really in the same party.

You can afk in town with 500 other people all day if you want, if that's what defines an MMO for you, it's there, having an open world does not make a game any different to a lobby based game as you're not fucking playing with any of the people in it anyway, they're just there.

Also, these games have every typical MMO system and more, guilds, raids, RNG shitfest, insane grind, broken unbalanced pvp, usually F2P, shitty cash shop, shit ton of classes and sometimes varying skill builds.
Literally the only MMO feature they don't have is an open world, which honestly no one gives a single fuck about since all you do in MMOs is quest to level cap and ignore everything else.
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>>158176393
So instead of actually answering my question you go about how much you like instanced rather than open world.

That's fine. But they are not MMOs.
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>>158176554
If they were not MMOs they would not be in this thread, you're in the retarded minority that thinks because a game doesn't have a useless empty world for you to ERP in in the middle of nowhere, that it's not an MMO.

Hello, I literally just told you that they have EXACTLY THE SAME FEATURES AS MMOs, it would be nonsensical and delusional to think they are anything but MMOs, there are multiple towns where you can have a large number of players at once too, effectively making your entire point invalid.
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>>158176393
An MMO for me is an open world with not limit of people who can enter the same space as other players already there.
A guild killing a boss with another guild being able to join the fight and kill the first guild to get the boss rewards (or maybe not killing each other but competing for DPS, like in Ragnarok); parties competing for grind spots in the same way; seeing other people outside doing their things, maybe spotting a party and asking to join; looking at castles that will actually be conquerer later in a guild war, or fuck, actually watching a 50+vs50+ guild war happen in front of me. Number of people actually mattering and not everything being about muh battleground fairness
I miss Lineage 2 and all those actually good open worlds. It makes me mad seeing someone look down on them just because of ignorance.
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>>158177168
I mean I'm not trying to argue against that being what an MMO is, or look down on them, all I'm saying is that the term MMO is incredibly wide and vague, you may not enjoy this type of MMO but it's still an MMO regardless of your opinion, you're the only one trying to throw MMOs in the trash because they don't fit your view of what an MMO is.
>>
>>158177418
No, I'm not, I'm only here because you called open world "useless" as if it's the fucking inherent rule just because you are using generic WoW PvE clones as your examples.
>>
>>158177502
You started this amigo: >>158175308

Unless you're a different person, in which case you should probably announce it.

I still stand by that opinion, open world IS useless, the majority if it will ALWAYS be completely empty and pointless, having a few boss spawns doesn't really justify having a giant map filled with nothing.
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>>158177646
Yes I am, I thought that was obvious. And then your problem isn't actually open world but badly done open world. Lineage 2 had this problem to an extent but others like RO and ToS had quite a lot going on in almost every area.
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>>158177934
I disagree with ToS, majority of the map is useless, save for boss spawns, quests make grinding pointless which makes the entirety of low level maps irrelevant.

Never even played RO but I imagine it's similar but to a lesser extent, since you apparently need to grind in that game.
>>
Friendly reminder that if youre playing as a healer then youre playing the game wrong.
>>
>>158178123
I also hate quest based leveling, I'm one of the people who played the iCBT1 while it was literally grind or die.
But that's completely besides the point, ToS maps are mostly all filled with quests which I think it's great. The problem here is that grinding is retarded when quests are so damn good for leveling. If the game stayed grindy like in iCBT1 you would have a really alive open world filled with things to do everywhere.

>Never even played RO but I imagine it's similar but to a lesser extent, since you apparently need to grind in that game.
With RO is quite different. Low level mobs often had super low drop rates for items that were useful on high end content or very specific situations (for example low level monster having a 0.01% drop rate card with an effect of +20% damage on X monster race, being useful for Y class to level at Z grindspot at lvl 90+). Or maybe common drops that you needed a million of, thus making the maps useful.
But still there were quite a lot of maps completely useless like most of the desert, and those were removed afterwards anyway for that exact reason and to not separate people too much.
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>>158178146
reminder that you should kill yourself. Oh wait, you're probably dying already because no one wants to heal you.
>>
>>158178592
I actually prefer quest based leveling. It's just easier to figure out where you're supposed to train.
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>>158179393
It's not hard to figure out grindspots if you use your head. Also camping with your party in some isolated spot killing monsters and talking for hours is one of the greatests joys in MMOs.
>>
>>158127696
Bless is dying in its own region.
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>>158179554
And doing quests by yourself and learning the lore is also fun.
I'm just saying, quest based leveling is better but I'm not adverse to mindlessly killing monsters for hours. You mentioned RO where drops were really low, you can just grind for items instead of exp.
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>>158175674

Because nobody cares they aren't MMO, people use that term for almost any online game nowadays.

Open world game sacrifices gameplay in favor of being the way it is, I personally prefer good gameplay. That's all.
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>>158179802
>doing quests by yourself and learning the lore is also fun
Are you sure you wouldn't be better off playing some co-op or singleplayer game?

Why would I play an MMO to NOT interact with people?
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>>158176762
>>158176393

Also forgot to say, not even the devs call them MMO. Dragon Nest it's labeled as an Action game or MO Action. You don't need to make brain gymnastic to fit in, they are just accepted because we don't really need (and can't affoed to make) a MO general.

Even brawlers and arena shooters are discussed in this thread.
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>>158179813
>>158179953

Fuck I meant to quote >>158175308
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You guys argue about the most retarded things
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>>158180415
Strawberry Starburst is the best flavor.

Fight me, faget
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>>158180507
fucking pleb cherry is the best
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>>158179929
Man, you only see things in black and white, huh? I never said not to interact with people. All I said was that grinding to level is worse than doing quest.
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>>158180915
>doing quests by yourself
You literally said it. Also don't try to fool anyone, quest based leveling is almost always completely solo.
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>>158181016
I'm just going to assume you didn't read my post instead of calling out on your level of reading comprehension.
>but I'm not adverse to mindlessly killing monsters for hours. You mentioned RO where drops were really low, you can just grind for items instead of exp.
You want to grind with friends, fine, go do that when you look for items, not exp.
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>>158181145
Grinding for items is retarded though, even RO players hate it, because it's completely luck based and not satisfying.
There's a reason the most recent 4chan server is low exp and high drop rate.
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>>158181283
You speak as if RO players could ever agree on one thing. Grinding for items was comfy since it actually added depth to the game and made many mobs important rather than forgotten and never revisited. It's about getting the droprate right so that the average time investment is within reasonable limits.
The most recent server was run like shit by devfag, an underage that didn't know /rog/ in it's prime. The server is now ded as expected, devfag took off after not lasting more than a couple months.
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>>158176393
Looks like you confused open world with having 8 people in your instance
If you really prefer instancing over open world, you are the cancer that killed mmos
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>>158181747
>open world
>never in any circumstance have more than 8 people around anyway

wow so massive
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>>158164857
You'll want all the issues. All but two are fantastic in terms of their quests. Those two that have no quests add end-game content in dungeons and scenarios. You want all that and it should go on sale for Halloween as you supposed.
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>Max Damage 1 totem
Please kill me.
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>>158181624
>Grinding for items was comfy
Yeah, no. Find me a person that liked grinding marcs or tharas.
And I didn't play that shit dead server, of course it died. Who thought 4chan servers are a good idea?
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>>158181795
0/10
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>>158181842
deserves atleast a 2/10 since you replied
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>>158181795
Uh what
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>>158181870

Good bye forever Rubinart
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>>158171335
>>158171772
>DNfags delusions
lmao
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>>158181956
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>>158181878
Your shitpost started at -2
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soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyscWYT8DUY
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>>158182208
>less than 8 people
That's not an MMO though.
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>>158182349
i
what

there's a fuck ton of people there
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When will the true open world PvP, open kingdom/guild territory control (think Eve), fantasy medieval MMO come /mmog/?
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>>158182349
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>>158182486
>fantasy medieval

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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>>158182486
Pretty sure Revelation has all that, doesn't it?
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>>158182559
No.
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>some autist now pushing "only 8" meme
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Do you guys own merchandise? Pic related

The first movie is sold in shops here so I'm gonna get it and get the second one later. I'm also getting the new hardcover artbook that was released this month.

Was considering purchasing the GSC Sorceress figure but I don't really like it that much, gonna wait for the next figure reveal because it's very likely gonna be an action doll like Figma.
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>>158182486
Didmt darkfall exist?
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>>158182584
Do you mean because the castles are only open during certain weekly hours instead of all the time?
Or what is it, genuinely curious because I didn't play the game
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>>158182486
you missed it
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>>158182553
I'd take it any form honestly. Personally I would prefer just Medieval or Space.
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>>158182726
It got a big update a few months back.
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>>158182656
>not liking sorceress
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There are no good looking armor in Mabi.
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>>158182905
Semen on that thing now.
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>>158140696
>>158140508
>these plebs can't recognize トモちゃんは女の子
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>>158182584
It has all that minus the western fantasy. Western fantasy is kind of boring now. Can't wait for that game Amazon is making.
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>>158184396
How is it boring when we never get any mmos with western theme?
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>>158184396
>17th century colonial americas fantasy game
It could be good, or it could really suck. At least it isnt x shade of medieval fantasy
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>>158184562
>never
Wut
99% of mmos are western fantasy themed.
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>>158184681
I don't call anything with terrible presentation, armor designed to show ass n tits, and a terrible story, a western mmo.
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>>158182905

I do like her, I'm just not a huge fan of the art that figure is based on and therefore not of the figure itself.

The art with the pot or the Majesty-obviously-Smasher art would have made a more interesting figure.
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>>158120961

>MANDATORY PvP TO GET CLASS CURRENCY SHEKELS

>By the time you unlock a class that isn't one of the core ones, you could be level cap in fucking Ragnarok Online WITHOUT PRIVATE SERVER RATES

Fuck that noise
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>>158124070

>Kritika will never come out in the states ever.

Fuck this gay Earth.
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>>158185049
Now that's just massive denial.
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>>158185534
>complaining about pvp being relevant
times sure have changed

at least revelation is a thing
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>>158182486

Albion is that pretty much

The guild wars / open world pvp is pretty fun (when it was populated), could use some tweaking but it works and is always a blast at the start of beta phases.

The devs recently shit the bed and pushed back the release date / end of final beta again so everyone quit for now, but on release it should be good. Provided the devs can rework the world map in time (why release was delayed).

If they follow through and release q1 2017 it should make for months of fun.
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>>158185049
I dont think you understand the concept of fantasy
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looking for an mmo to play
i've tried most of the obvious ones
the last game that really caught my attention was eden eternal but this was way back in 09

what are you guys playing?
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>>158187578
Pangya
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>>158187578
Most of us are waiting for revelation
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>>158187750
looks like a single player game that plays itself
instanced cutscenes are gay and streamlined questing is a dead mechanic

is there really no mmo games out there that do something different while still staying true to its mmo roots?

all the millions of nerds out there and not one of them have made some poorly animated but incredible game to play?? i refuse to believe
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>>158187578
Mabinogi
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>>158188062
>looks like a single player game that plays itself

Why the fuck do everyone here keep talking so much stupid shit

Does >>158182208 look like a singleplayer game to you?
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>>158188120
It's less than 8 people so it's not an MMO.
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>>158188062
you literally cannot play revelation without a guild unless you are the jesus of mmos or kirito

>>158188185
did you even watch the video
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>>158182486
Crowfall is literally EVE\Ultima medieval fantasy cross. Game uses voxels and physics, which means destructible environment(dwarf forgemaster class can blow through castle defences and possibly dig through terrain itself in the distant future, think of EQ:N).
Made by those who made Ultima and SWG.
The only catch is: kikestarter. Successful already though.
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>>158188185
There's like 40 people there and more coming
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These Tin Potions that shrinks your size looks fun. I became smaller.
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>>158188120
looks like 3d league of legends

>>158188207
>you literally cannot play revelation without a guild unless you are the jesus of mmos or kirito
you're telling me 90% of the games content isn't single player? whats makes it so different from the rest?
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>>158128638
>he actually believes this
>laughingweebs.webm
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>>158188486
>being this delusional
lol
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>>158188424
>whats makes it so different from the rest?
Open world PKing, guild wars, open world castles, fights over territory

If PvP isn't your thing I don't think you will find anything different from the others though, except maybe the way grinding works
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>>158188062
>looks like a single player game that plays itself
>instanced cutscenes are gay and streamlined questing is a dead mechanic
yes, it is true, up until lvl40 you mostly wank on cringy cutscenes.
but after 40 shit hits the fan and you get into the real game
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>>158188540
Looks like a single player game to me.
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>>158188521
>he actually still believes it
>morelaughingweebs.webm
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>>158188592
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>>158188540
Don't forget the holy trinity system, none of that 'you can be whatever you want with whatever class you want' bullshit most mmos pushed so hard
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If you can't party with 16 people then the game is a single player game.
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Why do people dislike when a game lacks the holy trinity so much? It's not a "feature" you just add because of reasons, there are different ways to design a game and in some the trinity simply does not work, specially in fast paced action games where player autonomy is a priority.

Monster Hunter would be utter shit if it had a tinity.
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>>158188979
You really want this to become a meme but it won't happen man
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>>158189005
>m-muh nostalgia
What I don't understand is we're unable to equip items just because we're a different class. Just because I picked a mage class doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to hold a fucking knife.
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>>158189005
No one has made a good mmo without it yet
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>>158188540
>Open world PKing
...has absolutely retarded system akin to BDO. Surely you mongs played it amirite, if not then here's quick recap:
-Attack someone, he doesn't retaliate and you kill him, you become pk. Sounds pretty okay huh. But wait, the retardation lurks here:
-Attack someone, he retaliate, you kill him, you still become pk.
Karma in rev makes you bitch, more you kill - more you remain in pk mode, with chance to drop equipped shit.
Obviously this creates huuuuuge problem in open world random pvp. People would hesitate to strike first on contests. Which will lead to pussy-dancing, as I like to call it. It would take someone reckless beyond sanity to fan the flames and force these passive wankers to actually pvp in a fucking pvp game.
In proper system(think lineage), if your victim strikes you back, they flag too and you happily pvp with each other. You still were penalized for PK if your victims don't retaliate in lineage and this was perfectly fine.
In revelation, assuming you are prime striker, which is almost ALWAYS advantage in trainVtrain you are penalized for starting PVP instead.

Guild wars don't have this problem, nor do castle sieges. But they are nothing but a 2/3 of pvp content.
You never know WHEN you gonna pvp in proper pvp game.
I used to start huge ass guild vs guild vs bystanders battles even in a FUCKING TERA over an ORE spawn.
Lineage? Get to *your* spot, wipe everyone on it. Prove you are eligible for juicy spot, eliminate your competition, even if they are your allies.
List goes on and on. Who cares. OWPVP in revelation is not akin to my tastes and I foresee huge problems with it.
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>>158189005
>specially in fast paced action games where player autonomy is a priority
not_a_MMO
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>>158189406
i love this meme
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>>158189270
>It would take someone reckless beyond sanity to fan the flames

So we need more edgy chuunis like me, gotcha

I'm gonna kill everyone and become the villian the mmo genre needs but not the one it deserves
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>>158189406

MMO, MO, online team competitive games. People always bitch about the stupid trinity.
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>>158189450
PVPRL would probably just use dump chars without any meaningful equipment and\or easily replaceable crafted crap to start shit. That's what I'd do. Wildly depends on actual ruleset. Will see how it actually goes in CBT, chink ping is beyond shit for me so I can only guess at this moment.
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>>158189270
I absolutely understand your point as I also played L2.

I'm still happy we at least have the possibility of killing anyone we want even if it means huge penalties. It makes me feel in control of my gameplay and I hope more MMOs follow this feature.
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>>158189437
go play halo or dmc or just y'know, some fighting game moite
>>158189489
show me at least one popular and interesting game without trinity
protip: you can't, devs are retarded and everything they do is still trinity even if they refuse to call it that
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I actually like when the gameplay is still basically the trinity but the classes aren't obvious. For example in Ragnarok for most high end content you have tanks, healers and DPS, but there's a million ways of going at this.
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>>158189772
>but there's a million ways of going at this.
But then it's not a trinity anymore.
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>>158189829
The roles still are, what classes are being used and whatever weird method they came up with doesn't really change that fact.
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>>158189829
it just means you have trinity of three best choices and million of shitty choices, nothing more
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>>158189489
Its because the trinity is oldschool and rigid.
In some mmos it is very rigid, you literally cannot get a party without the right roles.
It also creates a huge divide in pve and pvp because a trinity does not exist in pvp.
Honestly this could be alleviated by allowing all "classes" to switch between tank dps and healer roles as needed, but balancing would be difficult
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>>158189669

Any MO made by Capcom, for starters. MHF has been in service for 11 years and it's still on demand and receives plenty of content.
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>>158189923
>because a trinity does not exist in pvp.
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>>158189897
>doesn't really change that fact
It kind of does.
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>>158189952
>MHF
what next, call dank souls a mmo? doesnt have trinity too lol
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>>158190103
It's less than 8 players so its not an MMO.
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>>158189987
>implying
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>>158190130
if a certain anonymous' mom had more than 8 players in her does that make her MMO?
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>iit people who think they know who are the original holy trinity

It's mage, rogue and warrior: Magical attack, physical attack and range.
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>>158190103

>post mentions mo because the topic is about how people whine about trinity even in non mmo
>mmo

you are retarded
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>>158190327
you are not a mmo, get outta here
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>>158190439

More than half of the games in the pasta aren't MMOs to begin with

This thread has always been for any online game that doesn't have a general neither fits in the current ones, why are people getting upset about it now?
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https://discord.gg/CGMJd7r

Revelation Online OFFICIAL discord for the launch of the number one chinese pay two win mmorpg game
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>>158190529
>discord

Nigga you gay.
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>>158190529
The steam group is discordless and thats what the guild will be.
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>>158190254

But Diablo wasn't an mmo...
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>>158190708
>thinking the secret cliques won't start forming in the guild and start having secret discords
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>>158190805

__(You)__
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>>158190838

There already is, the steam group is entirely BnS faggots that know eachother who keep railing against discord.

They just want to prevent other /vg/ players from communicating so their guild gets all the members and attention.
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>>158190254
This, Ragnarok Online started with 3 jobs, Mage, Swordman and Thief. Aco was introduced as 4th.

I still remember these times, when after clearing harder room people patched each other with band aids. Now everyone spam these fucking AoE heal pets.

Also what's the fucking deal with having 100lvls instead of 30-40. Hitting for 999999 instead of 999 is that fun? I tell ya these idiots, who get bored if they don't lvl up every few minutes should just fuck off to mobas.
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>>158191141
ToS has like 330 levels now and will probably keep going up lol
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>>158191141
>Hitting for 999999 instead of 999 is that fun?

Missing two 9's
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>>158191245
And yes it is fun.
If it wasnt fun rpgs wouldnt exist at all
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How's Rift or Neverwinter? It's been ages since i last played them...

I'm almost quitting from online games... shit is too depressing.
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does anybody here actually play dragon nest? how is it since it changed from nexon to eyedentity?

I last played when some assassin came out, the spec that had chain scythes was really fucking good.

I halfway enjoyed the silly story and voices (although I had to change my characters, it was too awful)

I'm wondering how classes are now, if shit is any cheaper or hugely revamped in the whole paying aspect or how it works (practically everything stuck behind rng boxes of aids, for example)
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>>158191016
I'm on the steam group and I don't know anyone there, I know for sure though that discord is quite the shit stirrer when it comes to mmo generals.
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>>158191632
>dragon nest
this is the mmo general
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>>158191632

It's a lot more populated. Nexon localization, Nexon management and well Nexon itself were the main reasons people stopped playing it.

Only a month has passed so there are not many changes except for content update (Nexon didn't update the game for six months). Next patch should roll changes, if any will be implemented, I hope they adjust the cash item permissions to be like other servers.
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>>158191632
Most classes are decent, anything with an awakening right now (Warrior, Archer, Sorceress) is probably better off than most of the other classes.

There's currently an event where you can get a permanent costume for a single new character, and any character made before the next update gets a box that can be opened at 93 for a few permanent accessories.

RNG boxes exist but I'm not aware of anything required or gamebreaking inside them.

You can get gear sufficient to do most content in the game by running level cap dungeons on Abyss.
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>>158191632

There's a guild called NFA if you wanna join
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>>158192372
>anything with an awakening right now (Warrior, Archer, Sorceress) is probably better off than most of the other classes.

Raven and Ripper are top classes right now so not really. The thing with Awakenings is that they need to be managed carefully and not all of them work well in PvE/PvP.

That said, the game was redesigned to kill the overpowered elemental parties. The classes are very even and discrimination is non-existent so feel free to play any class. The only classes to be wary of right now are Gear Master because the turrets are bugged (hopefully fixed next patch) and Light Fury because he depends a lot on Abyss Walker skills to be able to deal damage to be playable decently outside party so SP management it's a bitch.
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>>158192287
I know apparently a ton of costume stuff was able to be traded and sold, but only us NA fucks got cucked hard by nexon, making barely anything even transferrable between characters, let alone on the market or sell.

>>158192372
Awakening? Is that like the edgy dark warrior I heard about?

I was looking into that one, or continuing either one of my 3 characters, the magic warrior (I know they were stupidly popular, but I'm a giant faggot), the I guess raven, and my sorc that used black hole orbs (although I only played that back in DN beta... god that was fucking years ago)

I had enjoyed the raven since, from what I can remember, its skills were very fast to execute and had pretty decent range. Although I couldnt build up as huge of combos on it as I could the sorc or lunar knight.

>>158192419
I was in the vg one around when assassin came out. I wonder if guilds stayed from the data transfer. Did it get revived? Or is this some new one.
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>>158192807
>Awakening? Is that like the edgy dark warrior I heard about?

No, those are spin-off classes. Awakening is a new tier that adds 2 active skills and 4 passives to each class.
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>>158192656
I do vaguely recall elements being dumb important, especially dark (since two of the three I played used dark just by chance) and that all the decades old sparked gear that had the stuff was worth fortunes. It was dumb, I do remember that shit.

So they killed it off? that's probably good. Also good to hear I can play basically whatever I want then?

Are awakenings like a short super buff form or something?
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>keep getting costumes for the opposite gender
This fishing event sucks.
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>>158193023

The four passives changes the effects of skills from previous skills trees, kind of like an EX skill. The two active skills are new but they have different ways of working per class, like Majesty which rely on the management of other skills and cannot be used consecutively so it's kind of hard to explain for me as I have not played all classes. Not all Awakenings were meant to be powerful damage wise, just offer an alternative on how to design rotations for your characters.
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>>158192807
>Did it get revived? Or is this some new one.
Either? I don't think the old guild stayed. Not many regulars unfortunately but still first month back.
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ayy lmao
>>158193661
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>>158194460
>steam

kek
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>>158193023

It's not only the suffixes- The devs tried to balance classes with no element by adding elemental conversion jades but that backfired horribly despite the fact that they actually nerf your base damage and people starting to buff stack and abuse elemental party composition to quickly destroy everything thrown at them. Devs made 80 cap stupidly hard with artificial difficulty everywhere but this only fucked over the players who couldn't afford strong gear and elemental conversion jades so everything was redesigned.

Buffs were nerfed, some buffs stopped being for the whole party, ice stacking was limited to 1, buffs and debuffs that that only affected one element became multi-element, overall damage of all classes was reduced and nearly equalized, enhancement now gives very low values. Elemental conversion jades still exists but unless you play on an 8 man raid they aren't worth it because of the penalty.
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>>158196371
Ahh okay. Although the biggest excitement I got out of reading all this was

>Enhancement now gives very low values

you mean stack up on shitloads of jelly and stupidly expensive fucking gems to enhance and not do garbage damage is gone? Because I fucking HATE enhancement system, it always is shit with the whole lol enjoy that downgrade on levels or EXPLODE if you fail.
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>>158196539

Gear still gets destroyed after +6 but it won't downgrade until after +8. Jades can now be enhanced too (tho the stats given are even lower) and they have the same rules.

You can now transfer enhancement from gear with an item called spera, but there are certain restrictions. Enhancing is sightly easier, and on mondays you can go bathe to the hot springs to get a buff that gives +7% enhancement success chance.
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>>158194460
>2 posters

just come here
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>>158200619
>scarlet blade
>someone is actually playing it
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If anyone here plays Kritika on the SEA server we have a guild. NoFunAllowed leave a request to join mentioning this general or something.
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>>158202675
no
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>>158176393
Either you're retarded or this has to be fucking bait. LOL


Lobby shit instanced MMOs allow devs to not only be lazy but it also caters to anti-social casual baby faggits who can't stand interacting with other people.
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>>158180507
>>158180747
Sour apple is the best you both got shit taste.
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>>158206004
Grape is goat
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>>158191016
>want to prevent other /vg/ players from communicating so their guild gets all the members and attention
Doesn't look like the Steam group is trying to prevent anything, and there's more players from random MMOs than BnS players now.
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I have to agree with >>158176393 on...
>having an open world does not make a game any different to a lobby based game as you're not fucking playing with any of the people in it anyway, they're just there.
I will 100% support this. You sir are correct. I don't understand why people want Open World so much when they don't even engage themselves with more than 30% of that world.


>Teleportation in Open World MMO
You ask for TRUE Open World MMO and then you treat it as if it's another instance based MMO!? Fuck convenience, the point of true open world is for your ass to travel across the globe to reach your destination, see: BDO. To EVER use teleportation in a true open world MMO is a complete and utter contradiction. What's funny is that I've heard people that love true open world games complain about how long it takes to travel around in Black Desert Online and how the storage system is based around the town you're in, so if you need something that's in a storage located on the other side of the world you will have to travel all the way there to get it.


>Seeing other players but not interacting with them
Again, even in BDO people call the game a "single player game with other player" because no one ever goes out their way to, I guess.... speak to them(?). But I can get on Phantasy Star Online, an instance based MMO, and there will be both Japanese and English player talking in global chat about.... anything, and they'll even let you join the conversation if you want. People will even ask you questions/advice right there in game. And I've never had that happen to me in open world MMOs other than some horny faggot trying to hit on my avatar via whisper chat.
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>>158211686
some of what you said is alright, don't post here ever again
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>renting skill and attribute pages
How low can chinks get?
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>>158212649
Not the first game to do that, bro. It's a convenience feature.
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>>158212720
Not him. You can fuck off Revelation damage control. Just because X does it that doesn't make it ok in Y.
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>>158212649
How many are unlocked by default?
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>>158212925
1
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>>158212649
>people are actually excited for this game
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>>158213089
Well, I hope later they add option to buy it perma.
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I hate free to play games. Make them buy to play with subscription, cash shop, and no play to win garbage. Final Fantasy did it right. Phantasy Star Universe did it right. War of Warcraft did it right. The fuck is wrong with everyone else?
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>>158213420
BDO.
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>>158212649
I converted my gold to get it around level 45. It's the second package that also gives additional perks. This is how cheap it is to buy it with real money.

It's 198 CS coins, with 1 yuan = 10 CS coins, so about $3 for 30 days.
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Anyone got some blank scrolls they can make me in Alexina?
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>>158213675
Whoops, wrong image. That shows how expensive the costumes are though. About $20 for the more expensive sets.
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>>158213474
>BDO.
Nah bruh.
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>>158212649
>>158213251
it's not p2w you mongs, you can buy 30day build pass for daily rep.
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>>158215345
I never said it was p2w, but renting out shit like this is dumb as fuck.
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>>158215345
Same thing is $1.50 in the cash shop. I don't know what they're complaining about when they're so easy to get.

Considering you have:
>0 need to spend money on inventory expansion because you can fully expand your inventory in game
>fully unlocked character slots without spending money
>able to craft what they could have easily made CS-only: CS wings

>>158215727
Dude, the amount of effort it takes to get them is laughable. No one who cares about having different builds is going to struggle to get them, whether they want to pay real money or not.
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>>158215727
renting shit is valid way to deal with excess currency nigger
you may not like it, doesn't change the fact it removes 999*number of builds rep each 30 days outta game, which is okayish considering 999 rep is ~5 dailies
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>>158215960
>>158215984
>defending renting this hard
Yeah ok chinks, keep your renting bullshit, I'm moving on to another game.
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>>158216204
Okay, have fun!
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Should I stick with Kali or Machina in dragon nest?

I can't make decisions for myself, pls help.
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>>158216204
>another game.

You should try BDO!
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>that feel when Wakfu will never come back to life

With that said, how is Albion?
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>>158216521
But I'm playing Wakfu right now.
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>>158216747
What's it like having an entire game world for yourself?
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>>158216521
>Albion

it's tablet game. Other than that if you want to be competitive, prepare to grind for mats, because upon death you drop all shit.
You will basically have one high tier gear set for ganking with guild and alot of mid tier sets for other pvp.
If you plan on playing alone then forget it, You NEED guild. If you find one willing to help you then go ahead. It.s fun game.
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>>158217057
Don't know, I'm just farming inside my Haven Bag.
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>>158216518
>>158213919
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>>158216441
Pick what you enjoy more, anon.

Kali a shit
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Are MMOs fun?
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>>158218776
Yes, but founders packs.
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>>158218776
no fun is ded
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What MMO let's me take on The Order of The Sword?
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>>158203510
>Lobby shit instanced MMOs allow devs to not only be lazy
>designing instanced games
>lazy

is this bait or just stupid
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Is there a way to play as a scythe in Kritika and use the loli body?

I couldn't find an option to choose class or body type in the character creator.
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>>158223582
Kritika is literally 3D DFO. Take it as that.
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>>158223582
There is no body customization. You can only change hair and face, everything else is just changing colors.
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>>158223916
Is 3D what?

>>158224491
>tfw I can't have a loli necromancer
I don't want to play as a whore.
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>>158223916
>>158224491
That's saddening.
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I want Rev beta.
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>>158231352
What's the difference between playing CN and NA unless you want it for PvP ping there is no difference.
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>>158231918
Actually having players that speak your language in a game that requires a lot of social interaction.
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>>158189005
Because what they try to replace it with is typically much, much worse.
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I wish these weapons lasted a bit longer, or DN having a glamor system

they where pretty cool looking
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>>158232510
Mods exist for a reason anon.
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>>158232578
but its not as cool if the other people dont notice!
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It's like I'm playing two dead games at once!
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>>158231918
>unless you want it for PvP

>the entire appeal of this new shiny mmo is pvp
GEE LAD I WONDER
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>>158232032
>he think he's going to make friends in revelation
It's going be the same as when you played other mmos. You're going to be a loner.
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>>158232646
Buy a cool costume then.
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>>158232960
There's more RP, cosmetics, and PvE stuff than there is PvP. Not to mention, westerns don't play PvP. I hope you're EU.
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>>158232842
>Dragon Nest
>Dead
Nah senpai.
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>>158232842
best god/10
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>>158233020
yeah but which sword
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>>158233071
All these memes
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>>158232960
For you, maybe. It has a really good balance between PvP and PvE, so there's going to be players doing one or the other, or both. I know I'm going to be doing both.
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>>158233449
second one is the steampunk one right? i like that one.
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>>158233597
Of course I'm going to be doing both. But it's not particularly different than other MMOs in the PvE department is what I meant.
If you aren't PvPing you are missing out on what makes the game feel refreshing in these times.
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say something nice about Lencia!

shes always being bullied by the devs!
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>>158233964
She is very cute and I want to rape her
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>>158233964
She's a "Special" girl
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So now that RevO was confirmed p2w, what game do I look forward to and what game do I play in the meantime?
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>>158234247
the waiting and suffering game
go outside maybe
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>>158234247
>what game do I play in the meantime?
Dragon nest
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>>158234247
P2W how?
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>>158234247
Peria Chronicles, Freestyle 2
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>>158232842

Are you that anon I drew the other day?
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>>158233964

she's canonically the pretiest like it or not :^)
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>>158234553
Yeah, I just got around to leveling my barbarian after 4 archers and gearing my spirit dancer. Thanks for the drawing by the way it was really cool.
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>>158234247
>p2w
It's not P2W, though. Having enchant items in the packs or even in the cash shop doesn't make it P2W when you can get them various ways in-game. The stat scaling isn't like ArcheAge or BDO either, so whatever power you assume someone is buying is so small that it doesn't matter.

Pretty sure the dude went over everything in this Pastebin. http://pastebin.com/euQfmM3q
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>>158234765
>4 archers
Wow anon you must really like elfs
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>>158234553
Not that anon but I love this picture. Thanks for sharing it.
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>>158234765
>>158234910
>like elfs
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>>158234767
>It's not P2W
yeah goy pay up those 18$,

goy you don't know anything, pay up that pack fampai :^)

goy just spend those 3$ to rent stuff, man just pay up goy :^)
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>>158234910
I just really like how all of them play (except warden). Speaking of which, have any of you guys liked a class so much you leveled all of its' branches?
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>>158234405
Speaking of DN, are there any fellow SEA monkeys here? I'm in Westwood.
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>>158235543
I've only done that in DFO
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>>158235543
I have 4 clerics but i dont like saint's playstyle
>>158235597
I play SEA
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>>158235515
>needing to spend $18 on a pack

>just spend those 3$ to rent stuff
>>158215345
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>headstart
dropped

fucking p2w gook trash
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>>158235971
can someone explain the popularity behind rust and ark for me? I tried both of them and got bored within the first 30 minutes.
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>>158235597
I'm on Green/west
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>>158235597

I'm in Green/West
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>>158235971
>steam

>>158236251
It's like you fucking discovered internet and MMOs yesterday.

>>158236338
Yes! Alot of kids love these games, they can just dick around and have fun! And there are people who love to hunt these kids down, It's fun to watch!
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>>158236338
Same reason people play dayz, h1n1, or ss13.

except ss13 has actual roleplay content.
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>>158091708
DESU the next OP should just rename this thread to "Shitty Asian MMORPG General".
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>>158236251
I'm personally going to enjoy having someone mentor me through the boring starter dungeons
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>>158236538
Except h1z1 and ss13 actually have goals to work towards, and its not just a game where people constantly troll each other.
Unless you mean h1z1 just survive, which is also just as retarded.
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>>158236532
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Is twin saga okay?
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>>158236362
>>158236513
You both online?
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>>158237096

Not right now, I'm gonna go out
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>>158237096
I was about to go DQ
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>>158237285
Pick me up a cotton candy blizzard
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>>158237037
boring as fuck, honestly
the writing was surprisingly advanced for a shitty asian shovelware MMO though, it seems like the translation staff had some fun with it
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>>158237547
Is this good enough senpai?
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Rate my occult (male)
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>>158237883
And forgot to mention that the clipping is insane holy fuck

Also hips (male)
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>>158237883
>>158238078
wow no way that's a man
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>>158237824
That'll do
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>>158237883
p cute
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>>158238148
Gender fluid
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>>158237883
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>>158238078
Aion 2.0
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>>158237883
>>158238078
Just a reminder
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>>158238623
But being a trap is a fetish, only pre-op trans people can be categorized as non-fetishists.
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>>158238623
Does that mean that if I make a female character I should prove I am london in real life? This sounds silly.
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>>158238623
I don't think he knows what RP means
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>>158238623
Okay sure whatever
I'm not really a trap but I have long hair and I'm gay

http://i.imgur.com/xiiRolc.jpg

I'm >>158238078 >>158237883
Am I allowed?
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>>158239413
>he fell for it
retard
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>>158239521
>gay
no wonder he's retarded
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>>158239413
Yeah you pass

Well we got our resident fuckboy for the guild now we just need the girl, the comic relief and the main character
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>>158239413
hey bby, u single? hmu
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>>158239521
>>158239669
calm down
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I hope Rev pastbin anon isn't some Cryy fanboy.
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>>158240015
isn't the pastebin anon the steam anon? He's pretty okay
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>>158240015
>I watched Cryy's video about the contents of the Starter Pack and he says that players will be 5 weeks ahead of me!
Cryy is known for having inaccurate videos, or videos missing information. For this particular video, it's the latter - there's three different ways you can obtain Magma Phlogistons, also translated as Suzaku Souls: 1) You can use a Suzaku Rune from the Fairy Hotel Beaver to make 2x White Tiger Soul (Argent Phlogistons) into 1 Suzaku Soul. This rune can be purchased once a week; 2) drops from Misty Hollow dungeon on Hard Mode and God Mode; 3) Drops from Deserted Shrine dungeon on God Mode.

I'd say no.
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>>158239413
>being gay
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>>158239413
You're cute. Stop being gay so I can make you my boy toy.
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>>158239413
Depending on how old you are i may want to commit more than 1 crime
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>>158241038
That looks like someone I used to work with IRL. I find this horrifying on many levels.
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>>158241038
>ERP fags play females and are fat neckbeards

>non-ERP fags play traps and are actually traps IRL
really makes you think

gay traps confirmed brothers in arms and reliable on the battlefield
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>>158240342
Who are you quoting?
>>
Any suggestions for someone who has felt empty inside since WoW went to shit with Cataclysm?

Also, any MMOs coming up that aren't generic Korean/Asian themed?
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>>158241407
The Pastebin
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>>158241429
Revelation Online
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>>158241429
Dark and Light if you like sandboxes. It should be out in another month or two.

>>158241527
I'm a Revfag and even I'm not going to suggest he play Revelation. Stop trying to shill it to everyone.
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>>158239723
I volunteer as the edgy guy that joins the team last
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>>158241429
Get hyped for either albion or crowfall.
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>>158237285
>>158237547

Are you two still available to run Nests or something? I'm bored.
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>>158239723
>we just need the girl
No we don't, girls are bad for online communities
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>Look at recommendations link
>No Rift

Is the game so dead that even a general devoted to smaller games won't play it?
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>>158241690
>I'm a Revfag and even I'm not going to suggest he play Revelation
Not him but why not?
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>>158241991
the guy asked for non-asian themed
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>>158241991
Because he doesn't want something Asian, and Revelation is the epitome of Asian.
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>>158241860
I can but i will leave before clear
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>>158241913
>http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu
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>>158242230
No idea how that link got there
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Action MMO PvP combat Tier List

S Tier:
Dungeon FIghter Online
Tera
Blade & Soul
Elsword

A Tier:
Dragon Nest
Vindictus
Kritika
Closers Online
Rusty Heats
Revelation Online

B Tier:
Everything else.
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>>158242481
where's BDO you dumb cuck
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>>158242574
D Tier.
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>>158242481
I'd switch TERA with Vindictus, and Kritika should be S Tier.
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>>158242574
>B Tier
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>>158242481
closers > elsword

otherwise correct
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>>158242481
>DFO
>PvP
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>>158242481
>Tera
>Blade & Soul

These two don't even have the depth, quality and smoothness anywhere near Vindictus and Dragon Nest
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>>158239413
>ywn find someone like this to be your erp slave
why do I live
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>>158242668
Never ever
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>>158242481
Let me fix it.

PvP Tier:
Revelation Online
Blade & Soul
Black Desert
Tera
Elsword

"It's not an MMO you fucking stupid cuck" Tier:
Rusty Heats
Dragon Nest
Vindictus
Kritika
Closers Online
Dungeon FIghter Online
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>>158242834
better list
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>>158242737
This. B&S should be lower just because of the game's horrible optimization.
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>>158242834
Finally
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>>158242825
:_;
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>>158242481
>elsword pvp
>good
whens the last time you played anon.
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>>158242834
TL Note: This poster is mad that he is shit at videogames and can't play anything more than numbers simulators
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>>158243071
TL Note: This poster can't handle getting killed outside and having his monsters kill stole so he needs to play instanced garbage
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>>158243071
>>158243152
Holy shit, it's like there's different types of PvP that appeal to different audiences!
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>>158243071
I actually play fighting games competitively so that's wrong
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>>158242895
>He can't manage 60FPS in an instance zone
TOASTER ALERT!

My Laptop has a fucking GTX 560m and I hit 60FPS at 100% stability in PvP arena. Show us your Speccs right now so we can laugh.
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>>158242895

And for being poorly designed floaty garbage
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>>158243317
Play me in BLADE ARCUS: Shining, Melty Blood, King of Fighters XIII or Under Night In-Birth on Steam. I'll body you free. Oh yeah I got Shit Fighter V too.
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>>158243604
BBCF?
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>>158243719
That's not even on Steam.
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>>158243842
Nice dodge :^)
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>>158242574
>>158242652
>>158242668
>>158242684
>>158242737
>>158242834
>>158243046


How much higher is the letter S than A on a tier scale? Just wondering why all these anons are BTFO. I thought S was only slightly better than A.
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>>158244275
S to A is usually a lot higher of a difference than A to B.
Otherwise just use A and B.

But everyone gets this wrong anyway.
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>>158244046
>>158243719
>Blazblue Central Fiction
>Arcade
>JP: November 19, 2015
>PS3, PS4
>JP: October 6, 2016
>NA: November 1, 2016
>EU: November 4, 2016

You were saying?
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>>158244597
>not owning the JP version
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>>158244597
What do you mean? You do know that most people bought the japanese version digitally, right?
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>>158244368
Using a percentage isn't A considered 90% - 94.5% while S being a 100% grade. Doesn't seem like much of a leap.
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>>158244727
Not that anon, but why would you buy the JP version if you can't understand it? Does it come with an EN toggle?
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>>158244716
Reminder that Rachel won by a landslide.
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>>158244727
If BB is the only fighting game you play then you could have just said it.
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>>158244881
Because you don't need to understand japanese to play a fighting game. The menu translations were made by the community like day 1.
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>>158245109
I would still be more comfortable playing the EN version, but that's just me, I guess.
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>>158242834
tera has better pvp than bns actually
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>>158245298
The EN version is obviously preferable, but the JP version came out a month before it, and had a 2 week demo for those who preordere the game digitally, so many opted for that instead.
>>
MMORPG wise TERA has the best action combat of all time to this day, and there is nothing that comes close to it.

As for instanced games, DFO and Kritika offer the highest combat depth you can find in today's lobby games.

My opinion is based around the combat mechanics, technicality, execution and style.
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>>158245347
Oh it wasn't in order.

But now that you mention it, it's pretty much in order except for that, yes.
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>>158244874
sup leikabro
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>>158245453
yep, swap bns with tera and we'll have almost accurate
can't say for elsword tho, never played it unlike all others
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>action combat
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28367745
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>>158246265
>no pvp

maximum holy lmao
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>>158246265
>PSO2

combat is stiff and gay
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>>158246265
No one does super intricate combos in PSO2 past showing off. It's better to spam 1-3 PAs.
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>>158246512
It is funny when you realized PSO2, a game with no Player vs Player mode, has held more competitive events than 90% of that tier list, and Sega funded them.
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>>158245440
>best action combat
does not compute
action combat is shit in mmo, no exceptions
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>>158246650
>No one using the game engine at its maximum potential

This is why we get half-ass action combat in MMOs. You can't show me another MMO with the same depth.
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>>158246898
No it's not. No one is just putting in enough effort to make a good game with it.
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>>158247036
Not him, but combos and 'using the action to its maximum potential' is actively detrimental to your team.

I used to try to play the game like DMC and the same thing always happened: Almost all my teammates would just destroy whatever I was juggling and carry on.
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>>158238078
>>158237883
why does my chin look like this ingame

REEEE
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>>158247036
No one uses the engine to its maximum potential because there is no reason to do so, and if fact, it's more detrimental to do so.

>spend 30 seconds juggling a mob with super l33t combos
vs.
>killing mob in 3 seconds with one or two attacks
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>>158239231
That goes for a large portion of this thread.

Who fucking cares what people ERP in their private time? As long as they aren't in a public place and shoving it in everyone's faces, I couldn't care less if they indulged in diaper fetish.
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>>158247036
If you're not killing trash mobs with one PA, you're not playing to your maximum potential
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>>158247327
Maybe find a team that enjoys that? I mean, there's more than one way to have fun. Is it really your place to say 'THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE FUN IS TO DO THIS EVENT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.'
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>>158247327
Action isn't synonymous with juggling though.
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anyone ever play endless online? i'm looking for something similar, i know the game is still online but i'm looking for something new
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>>158249270
holy shit i remember playing that game as a kid and recently i tried looking for it again but i couldn't remember the name.

>check website
>latest news post
>30 July 2011
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>>158247361
>spend 30 seconds juggling a mob with super l33t combos

It takes 30 second or longer to kill 1 pack of mobs in Black Desert. I guess it's ok in Black Desert.

In Kritika you have to play it like DMC so it takes a long time too.
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>>158247327
You can do combos while dodging boss attacks and raid mechanics.
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>>158249635
it is still online, sausage (idk if you know him) put up a server that's very very close to the original

i miss the game a lot
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holy JESUS this game is so HOMOSEXUAL
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>>158250084
Use your free camera mode to take pictures (upper left camera icon). Rev's DoF is balls.
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>>158250207
Oh cool thank you
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>>158250084

>some guy standing
>HOMOSEXUAL
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When will MMOs innovate their combat? Everything is about Staggers or Stuns, Guards or Evades, CC'ing, and being able to escape one time. The same formula is used in Hero Shooters and MOBAs. Are we at the peak of the MMO genre? You might try an blame it on developers but it's been more than decade and we're still using the same formula.
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>>158250286
did you just assume xir gender you shitlord
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>>158249767
And my team will just hit its weak point, destroy it, and carry on.

For me, it's testing my skill with my class. For them, it's farming.
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>>158250318
Well, there's more to it than that. You're just describing raw mechanics.

MMOs like DFO, for instance, use Super Armor, and due to being balanced like a fighting game, many terms you see in the fighting genre are applied (juggling, i-frames, wakeup, startup, frame advantage/disadvantage, etc).

Although a lot of MMOs use those mechanics, how they distribute those mechanics are different, and they can make classes diverse just due to their implementation. Guild Wars 2 is an excellent example of this.


What alternative are you looking for, anon?
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mobas are mmo 2.0

then there will be VRMMO and finally MMO 3.0 which will be VRMOBAS
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>>158251270
Could you go into more detail on Guild Wars 2? You're making me want to try it now. It has PvP right?
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>>158251973
I'd suggest to shuffle over to the GW2 general, but its quality is largely variable (although if you've been lurking that's pretty much the 4chan norm)

But back on topic, Guild Wars 2's classes have certain mechanics internal to them that other classes don't have. For instance, Thieves have extremely low cooldowns, but have a resource system (called Initiative) that they expend with their most damaging abilities. They also have the Steal ability, which steals a powerful one-use item from NPCs and players and moves them in front of their target.

Hunters have pets, which provide a variety of utility from stuns to debuff/buff applications.

Mesmers conjure illusions and phantasms (one is for misleading enemies, the other is for tangible damaging effects), and can expend said images like a resource to produce additional effects.

The list goes on. There's at least 3-4 ways to play each class due to different ways to use Trait trees (you choose three trees and can swap/modify them at your leisure outside of combat) and stat distribution (three stats in the endgame on your gear, multiple slots).


As for PVP you can go into the organized PVP (structured PVP) as soon as you start the game, because all gear availability is standardized, and you only pick an Amulet (which is just a stat combination among several), a Rune (which offer stats and a variety of extra benefits), sigils (which add extra effects to your weapons), and weapons (which set what skills you have available) and can then jump right in with no experience/grind necessary. You can even use this system to level, because it offers Tomes of Knowledge that give levels on use.

There's also more PvE-earned gear dependent WvW which are server vs server vs server fights on huge battlefields. I'll go into more detail if you'd like, but I've gotta head out now.
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>>158242834
>Instanced shit
Elsword is not an mmo and neither is bns
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>>158253774
bns has open world
elsword has open fields with monsters

they are not fully instanced even if the open world isn't exactly relevant
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>>158246898
No it isn't, tera spoiled me so bad, I can't get back to tab targeting because it's just shit
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>>158247334
Because you made a man.
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>>158254117
It's a lightning bug actually.
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>>158253010
Thank you for going out of your way. You've convince me to download the game and try it out. That's great to hear, I wish more games would let me jump into the PvP content at level 1.
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>>158254393
You mean, like, a moba?
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>>158254393
You mean like fighting games?
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>>158254498
>>158254574
You know what I meant. It's silly for someone needing to PvE in order to PvP.
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>>158255197
I'm a hardcore pvp faggot and I think PvE should make people stronger in PvP. I mean that's sort of the appeal of MMOs, dedication making you stronger.
I play all kind of competitive games and if you take this out of MMOs they sort of just become a moba, at least in their current state.
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Soo..
Will Revelation flop?

How populated will it be?
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>>158255197
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with it. Even Guild Wars 2 has that scene in World vs World, since Structured PVP doesn't have as many diverse stat distributions as you can create in PvE/World vs World. The beauty of structured PVP is that it's even-field and standardized.
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>>158255424
Then not make people PvP to progress in PvE.

>Reach level 40
>Have to PvP your way to 45
>Winning and losing gives XP but winning gives you more

I already you're going to tell me how bad this is but my point is developer promote PvP as an 'optional' feature. I should not be required to do all or most of the PvE content in order to PvP.

In Tera you have two sets of PvP gear. One can obtained through PvP modes only, but the best PvP gear can only be obtained through PvP and PvE. That's bullshit. It should be PvP only. Because now I have waste time grinding PvE grind gear when all I wanna do is PvP.
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>>158256092
Someone will inevitably complain when there's PvE in their PVP, or PVP in their PvE.

If the game is structured with open world PVP of some form in mind, expect PVP to come into PVE, and PVE to come into PVP. That's just the game. You'll never like EVERYTHING about a game. Find what you like, and deal with what you don't. A game can be 80% perfect and still a damn good game. It isn't shit just because you had to, at some point, do a quest that didn't appeal to you.
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>>158255950
Just hope for the best

>>158256092
I know what you mean. And this is the reason why I think open world PK is justified.
People need to PvE to PvP and people need to PvP to PvE. Why separate them? They are both part of what makes an MMO fun.

I really dislike how people divide the game in two parts and it ends up being bad on both sides.
Why not just go play a good PvE game and/or a good PvP game instead of something that tries to have both and be subpar on both sides?
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>>158256092
>>158256386
And moreover, if nothing important was behind that content (a necessary piece of gear or perhaps a good looking cosmetic) then no one would run the content.
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>>158256393
Damn I realized my post ended up being more confusing that it needed to be.

I'm just going to say:
PvP should matter in PvE and PvE should matter in PvP.
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>>158256393
Fun is subjective. I think MMOs without PVP are boring as fuck (see: Maplestory), and that open PVP is rewarding and makes players band together in the best possible way (see: Age of Wushu). However, some people can't stand PVP and try to avoid it as much as possible. They're only there for fully cooperative/PVE elements, and think any forced inclusion of PVP elements is cancer.

Long story short, MMOs that include both will invariably not wholly appeal to everyone.
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>>158256782
>MMOs that include both will invariably not wholly appeal to everyone.

And that's completely fine. The mistake of the modern MMO genre is trying to appeal to everyone and ending up being subpar in every area.

PSO2 is good because PvEfags can be completely happy there.
Revelation is a good step towards a good PvPgame that includes good PvE, but it has a long way to go with all that instanced content and shitty repetitive quests.
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Anyone still playing Vindi in east?
I applied to ded guild
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I'm still disappointed with ToS. It could have been good
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>>158239413
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One TRULY dead game coming in
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>>158255424
mobas are literally pve to pvp mmos but instanced and lasting about 1 hr
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>>158257345
> The mistake of the modern MMO genre is trying to appeal to everyone
the mistake of the modern mmo is to appeal to casuals
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>>158260593
>10 players in a big ass area
>massive
Also I love grinding and my effort staying right there instead of reseting every hour, thank you.

>>158260718
Well, yes. By "everyone" I mean casuals too.
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>>158260819
im just saying thats thats the moba concept, its literally mmos distilled down into a 1hr instance with a group of other people and you pve to pvp.
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>>158260718
It's that they're trying too hard to appeal to casuals, not that they appeal to casuals. I understand that not everyone has a lot of time to play, and some people can't play for more than 1-3 hours a day, so having all PVP be based on gear that you need to sink a lot of time into and anything slightly subpar makes you literally worthless (Black Desert) is really demoralizing for those people and turns them off from the game.

However, making the whole experience a simple rush to endgame in a quest grinder format (WoW and all its clones) makes every similar format MMO feel samey.

Offering straight advantages in the cash shop goes on a similar route, except it devalues the effort of people who actually put the time in versus those that pay.
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>>158260426
I beg to differ
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>>158260426
Okay, I did not follow TOR much at all, but is it really true that it shits on KOTOR 1 and 2's story?
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time to ask the dank question
Did you play Perfect World before and what was your experience?
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uhmmmm

what
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>>158262384
SUPER KAWAII!!! KAWAII SUPER!!!!
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>>158262309
I played very briefly, and the only thing I remember is about 10 minutes into the game you are OVERLOADED with quests. You go from 2-3 starting quests out the gate to the next hub, and then you have 15 quests of varying levels lighting up your minimap.

Also, I've tried some of PW's other games and I can safely say that there are too many 'courier' quests which have you walking in a quest chain between 8 different NPCs for 2.5 hours with zero combat whatsoever.
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>>158261734
mmos are basically persistant timesinks.
Casual and mmo are opposites
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>>158261810
That's not a healthy forehead
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>>158263121
MMOs can offer something to the casual player. I don't see the problem with 'large playerbase' and 'casual playerbase' intermingling. I'd say it's good for the game to have that variety and that population of people at lower levels keeping the game alive and diverse.
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>>158260426
You are like a little baby

Watch this
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>>158265402
How is that still up
>>
face of mankind is one of the dedest
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>>158265767
I honestly have no idea. You would think Red 5 and their Chinese overlords would have pulled the plug since most of their veteran players jumped ship after getting repeatedly fucked in the ass, but I guess they have a sustainable playerbase in Asia or some shit.
That's also only for Steam, so there may be another 50 or playing via the launcher.

Firefall was some of the most carefree fun I ever had in an MMO, and it's a shame that it's become the husk that it is now.
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>>158263314
sure, but the casual player has to always be aware he is a second class of player
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>>158265402
>53
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do I build crit on dragon gems or vit in DN for gladdy
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>>158266967
>dps class
>building vit

Go play a baby class like saint.
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Oh my fucking god
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>>158267646
they changed the rules past the 80 cap?

no longer need vit not to die?
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>>158267704
>he didnt read the whole thread
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>>158267819
have you tried not getting hit
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>>158267819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vInRbi-mIFs

You can clear IDN HC solo without getting hit.
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>>158267961
It gets sadder?
>>
>>158267704
Reminder, there are people in revog who are seriously going to listen to that guy, rush to max level, and then be forced to re-roll because they have none of the gear or p2w to fix their stupidity.
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>>158269426
The main problem with rushing comes with the added price on skill talents right?
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>>158255950

It's no impopular in China but it's not making noise either, so let's see
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>>158269554
Not quite.

The main problem with rushing is that gear and damage doesn't scale linearly. If you don't have the correct gear when you hit the next tier of enemies, then every hit is almost your entire life bar.

That's why there is such an emphasis on holding back levels and making sure your gear is caught up before moving to the next tier.

Also, price for everything scales in that way, as well. Including price for gear upgrades.

Furthermore, materials needed for gear upgrades only drop in dungeons relevant to that level of gear. And since gear this game relies on upgrading gear you already have: that means you have to start at the bottom and work your way up unless you P2W and just buy a new set of gear.
So if you get to max level, and you need gear from a tier below you, then good luck running lowbie dungeons in which you are scaled to their level.
>>
>>158256782

I have never lived in a zone favored by MMOs, so my ping is never below 100. On top of that I don't have the resources, time and money to quickly level and get gear so I stay away open world PvP games.

I have played games were they give you the option of removing yourself from open world PvP by simply toggling a menu option. I don't know why more games do that.
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>>158269854
Jesus

Why so complicated
>>
>>158269967
>I have played games were they give you the option of removing yourself from open world PvP by simply toggling a menu option. I don't know why more games do that.

Because the open world pvp comes from the thrill and risk of getting killed at any moment by some crazy asshole or enemy guild.
If you can just toggle it off the the feature is literally pointless because there's no benefit to be gained by having it toggled on. At that point just remove the feature and make them go to the battlegrounds.

Also I'm from south america and I NEVER play below 100 ping, that was never a problem as long as I don't go over 250.
>>
>>158270145
>Because the open world pvp comes from the thrill and risk of getting killed at any moment by some crazy asshole or enemy guild

This is gonna blow your mind but some people don't find that "thrilling" and it makes no sense that you force Players to use a feature like that. Just go run into people who have the PvP enabled and enjoy yourselves.

The option is there because Players who don't like the (forced) feature are more likely to quit a game than stay.
>>
>>158270307
go play another mmo
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>>158270307
>but some people don't find that "thrilling"
Then you're playing the game wrong.
>>
>>158270307
Yes, stop playing the victim, I'm not saying that you should like it.

I'm telling you the reason why some of us like it, and some stupid faggots come and cry about getting killed and ruin the fun for all of us instead of just moving to a PvE mmo.

Basically, go kill yourself, you fucking stupid cuck.
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>>158270410
>go play another mmo
>>158269967
>I stay away open world PvP games
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>>158270307
You are the reason the genre is so shit right now
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>>158269967
There are games with classes that are more ping-friendly, as well as mechanics that help you if you're higher ping. For instance, Blade and Soul's Warlock class is fairly ping independent. They have mechanics that allow for pre-emptive CC avoidance and a lot of their skills have sizeable windup that leads to sizeable damage, so they don't need to react. For those with better ping, KFM and Assassin exist, who rely more on combos, and are heavily affected by ping.
>>
if you guys like PvP so much why not just play a MOBA?????????????
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>>158270710
haha nice meme!
>>
I really didn't mind open-world PvP or PvP activated when outside towns.
My sentiments only changed when I watched Shuras and Warlocks with +20 equipment camp Orc Dungeon and kill everything on sight.
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>>158270710
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>>158271116
>My sentiments only changed when I watched Shuras and Warlocks with +20 equipment camp Orc Dungeon and kill everything on sight.

That's what happens when you don't have a proper karma system.
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>>158271246
Ragnarok Online had that, as well as a Nightmare PVP mode where a piece of equipment can be dropped by a slain player, but it was scrapped on early dev.
>>
>>158271387
Yep. Now there's only one official PK server in japan but it's extremely insane.

Killing multiple people and going in rampages, even fucking lowbies, give you damage buffs and rewards until you die.

Like what the fuck gravity of course PK servers are not going to be popular this way.
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>>158271521
PvP will never be popular on a f2p game with cash shop. Paying players will just buy damage while non-paying players will avoid PvP altogether.
>>
>>158271609
If the penalties include dropping equipment I can assure you it's not going to be a problem especially in ragnarok
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>>158271680
That too. Kinda the reason why Runescape PvP is also dead.
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>>158271521
They know the inherent toxicity involved in developing PK servers, so they just maintained a server where people can just do as they please.

I'm surprised that Japan had a PK server. Of the small fraction of MMOs in Japan, an even smaller part of it had PvP elements.

>>158271609
Also, any game that provides PK usually dies slowly but surely. The higher the influence of PKers will affect the overall sentiment of non-interested players, and as the grief increases, toxicity worsens and spreads across all other aspects of the game.
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>>158271709
I think it's fine like that.
Killing innocent players should be rare and only done under rare circumstances of players offending another, or because someone is insane or leaving the game.

>>158271798
>this much of a bitch
>using the word "toxicity" unironically

I don't know what to say, is this supposed to be bait or something?
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>>158271798
Let me guess, you are a Dragon Nest player.
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>>158271915
Stop calling everything you don't like bait.
Not everyone is out here to ruin your day.

>>158271993
Good guess, you bastard. But that's unrelated to my post.
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>>158271798
>toxicity

Fucking kek
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>>158272115
First word to show up. Maybe I should have used faggotry.
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>>158272291
It is too late now, if that's the word you unconsciously used we already know what kind of person you are
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>>158272339
I'm right at home in this general then.
>>
what mmo should I play
>>
>>158272491
What do you like in MMOs?
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>>158272538
thats the thing
i dont like mmos
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>>158272651
oh... okay
>>
>>158272538
I like having unrestricted open world pvp so I can bully newbies into showing how thick and big my cock is with them having no way to retaliate, but run away like a little pussy boi when another guild with stronger players come and gang up on me.
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>>158272538
idk playing them I guess
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>>158272773
t. triggered dragon nest player tumblr expert
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>>158272825
You don't play MMOs anymore. It's all cutscenes now. Look at RevO or DN.
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>>158272886
Pretty much every game now is cutscenes.
That or watching a game engine have an aneurysm at real time (e.g., Mafia III).
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For some odd reason, I can't make the new thread, someone else do it.
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>>158272970
No.
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>>158272970
Were you the one that used the closer picture? The thread went 404 very fucking quick.
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>>158273076
Weird. It said bad gateway or something, but the thread was made anyway, and then it was instantly 404'd.
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>>158273535
>>158273535
>>158273535
>>158273535
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Albion Online looks really nice!

Anyone playing the final beta currently?
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