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Old thread: >>157984408

REMINDER: you are playing against bots until level 5 in casual queue.

>Official pages
Website: https://www.paladins.com/
Forums: http://forums.paladins.com/
Server status: http://status.hirezstudios.com/

>FAQ, useful links etc.
http://pastebin.com/mx4LjKSz

>Patch notes (OB35)
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?15195

>Steam Store
http://store.steampowered.com/app/444090/

>Paladins Wiki
http://paladins.gamepedia.com/Paladins_Wiki

>Tutorials made by Hi-rez (playlist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvmzT6CSvg8&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNyc6n9nhYujLyniK69nMFrB

>Champion guides made by Hi-rez (playlist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnOK-TNKNmw&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNwUxmoNDngInm4DnaanoKS9

>Decks
http://www.paladinsdecks.com/

>/palg/ ID List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X6NNDQLSytCCoExPCtt48Bq9_Sv_Ha4qZkOeHS1DcS8/edit#gid=485142380

>Account statistics
http://masterpaladins.com
http://paladins.guru
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first for nando best boy
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>>158062025
Kinessa is cute. CUTE!
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[Distant fanfare]
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drogoz is the best damage
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>>158062238
drogoz is like the most fun champ to play
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Ying is the cutest
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>>158062238
PREACH!
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how do i learn to aim
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>>158062749
Use a banana and pretend your are shooting with it.
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I don't have an furry pips or edgy andrews but here are some names I found funny
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>>158062693
>tfw you're not the cutest
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Are there any upcoming streams or anything? Nave they said anything at all about th3 premade issue?
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>tfw playing makoa
>enemy victor uses his ult
>your entire team is on the point capping
>use your bubble shield
>his mortars go right through it and wipe out your team

is that a glitch? why doesnt the shield stop the mortars?
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>>158064278
Because fuck you, he's Anatoly.
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>>158064278
its because you can use the barrage on people who are inside bulidings

it doesnt actually come from the sky
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>>158064278
They explosions actually come from the centre of the circle on the ground. Stupid, right? Should hard code it as an exception and have Makoa shield it.
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I have a 45% winrate, which means I'm below average, yet Ive played with at least 10 people in the top 20 leaderboards. How is this even possible?
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No patch notes to look at or PTS to test shit on for the whole weekend! [VEW], [VVT] hirez.

>>158064114
Don't think duos in ranked are going anywhere https://youtu.be/ZMHnh2zEfGQ?t=1230
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>play on Australian servers to talk to down under bros
>none speak english

Who the fuck plays on those servers?
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>>158064879
45% winrate does not mean below average, 55% winrate does not mean above average. If you beat everyone else but keep getting queued against the best player in the world, you might have 40% winrate, but that doesn't mean you're a bad player. It simply means you aren't in your proper MMR right now, and you will drop in rating soon, if the system is working correctly.
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>>158065369
SEAbros trying to escape from their shitty server.
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Hnghh so close to 90%

Drogoz is gosu as hell if you abuse the shock combo.
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>>158065369
aborginials and asian parlor girls
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>>158065505
How the fuck?
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Yesterday I was one day away from crystal login
Today Im on day 2
Fuck you Hi-Rez
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>>158065505
Premade faggot
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>>158066035
Just luck I guess, I also played Evie a lot before so switching playstyles wasnt hard.
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>>158065505
>there used to be almost no drogoz players
>"drogoz is a meme" they said
>now people dominate matches as drogoz

wew
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So I've been trying to refer/be refered by a friend. Within Paladins the game tells me that I still have several days in which I can say I was refered, but if either of us tries it, it complains that our accounts are too old (because we've both been playing smite for years). Any word from hirez on that kind of thing?
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Was this really that hype worthy? Would've been nice to get more Halloween themes.
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why does evie do so much fucking damage
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>>158067797
because she cant take any

>bomb king just spamming bombs
>get one randomly stuck on me mid flight
>bam ded

playing evie I get killed by stray shit more than actual intended damage
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>>158068198
I feel like she really needs an even 2000 health.

If not just to sate my minor OCD that her health is a weird number.
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>>158065369
Indos, Viets and Chinese love going into australian servers because they think it's better then their own server.
They're like our BRs. So incredibly rude while being awful players.
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>>158067797
Her damage and mobility are to compensate for the fact that she is literally the most fragile champion.
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>>158067745
>boosted party gold and XP

HUDDLE UP GUYS LET'S DO THIS
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>>158068332
I'm thinking I made a mistake picking her as a beginner I love her to death though
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>>158068495
>More reasons to just do premades instead of solo queueing

Thanks low-rez.
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>SMITE voice packs cost gems

Shiet, will Hi-rez make all VPs crystal-only soon?

And why the fuck does SMITE have so many cosmetics.
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>>158068721
That's the only way they can make money.
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>>158068721
Cosmetics and the Ultimate God Pack is how SMITE makes dosh. Paladins will be no different.
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>>158068812
But who buys shit like
>a special pedestal for the character select screen

or
>a special frame for your god during the loading screen
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>>158069012
Strange people. Some of the skins are pretty cool, and some skins are only in chests. People may buy frames and pedestals because they give chest rolls.
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>>158069012
People that have a lot of money to waste.
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>>158069012
Smite is a small community. Making sure everyone in that small community knows you're the greatest means a lot to the shitters.

They gotta keep people working. If you have a group of sculptors on your team, but aren't workin on any new assets, what would you have them do? Look at Overwatch. They're always working on something. After summer games it was Halloween.

>Finally get in a game with another good player, a Berik
>We barely win
>He starts shittalking me, despite me comparing how I did more damage than the other 3 damage dealers combined

Come on, limit your shit talking. Yeah, you're right, you did secure the win. A lesser player would have thrown. But when I get 90k damage and the other damagers get 30k, maybe I'm a part of the reason why we won too.
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>>158070281
And if you're going to shit talk... Get your math straight.
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>Smite matches premades against solos

welp
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>>158070281
>Smite is a small community.
SMITE is the #4 MOBA in the world behind LoL, DotA and HotN.
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>>158062893
barik's stereotype is totally tryhard autist
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>>158070871
That doesn't mean much. That's like saying Jill Stein is the fourth most popular presidential nominee. except like 98% of the moba population plays the first 3.
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>People mad because they don't have people to play with
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Evie = Best Girl. Deep down you all know it.
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>>158072701
There's no excuse if you use these threads.
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I've got to say I prefer Paladins' community over Smite's
>make a mistake a Paladins
>maybe get called a noob

>make a mistake in Smite
>REPORT HIM FOR FEEDING

Fucking hell, I'm not even playing ranked.
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>>158073297
That's a MOBA thing, not a Smite thing. Mostly League really, it just bled over into other games
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>>158073297
>t. bootless amc
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there are people posting here RIGHT NOW who have below 50 win rate
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>>158073649
>tfw 49.8%
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>>158073459
If you're toxic in SMITE, people call you a LoL babby, as if SMITE's community is not natively toxic. Even though dmbrandon, one of SMITE's most profilic streamers (while I was still playing) was one of the most toxic around and practically got away with murder.
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>>158073996
>and practically got away with murder.
Please tell me more
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>>158070705
most eliminations as barik or kinessa doesn't mean shit, turrets and mines stick your dick into every kill
post full details faggot
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>>158074387
You misread

I'm the Cassie. He's the Berik that's bad with math.
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>>158074279
He was a promoted-by-Hi-Rez streamer - literally one of their single biggest streamers - who should've lost his job at least twice over for the stuff he was saying. Both times, he only got a slap on the wrist, even though people on the reddit clamored that other players have been banned for much less.
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Does anyone actually like how Hi-Rez uses websites and youtube videos inside their clients? I always saw it as lazy, like they couldn't figure out how to create an actual engine, so they just duct tape things together.

>>158074659
You were implying that he killed a guy and didn't get put in jail. I came for gossip, and you let me down
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>>158074992
baka desu baka desu senpai baka baka senpai
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>>158074992
do you know what hyperbole is
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>>158075151
That's my mother you're talking about you fuckface
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>>158063334
i felt like making another one
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>>158075203
Its a really shitty hyperbole
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>>158074992
I like how Smite has the little 16-second tutorial videos. I feel like a lot of Paladins player would be less retarded if we had that.
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>>158075429
True, but again, other games have it too, but they're actually integrated in the game. Like Overwatch
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>>158072973
I dunno, is the troublemaker VP stil cancer?
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>>158063334
>>158075350
These are wonderful. If you feel like another, could I get a cutie Grohk?
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>>158063334
>>158075350
I guess no one but the guy above me responded, but these are really nice and cute
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>>158063334
>>158075350
Cute. CUTE!
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ying butt!
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>>158076008
What butt?
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>>158075350
you are very good
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>>158073297
the reason being because if you fuck up in a MOBA, you ruin the game for everyone else on your team as your opponents get fed. If you suck in Paladins then well I don't really care because snowballing isn't that much of a problem and I'm playing a DPS and so don't know what my team is doing anyways.
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>>158066198
>Just luck I guess
Son there is no need to be modest, you are way too consistent for that to be "just luck".

>>158075350
Thanks again
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>>158074992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IauvReb07w
got fired for that but otherwise just being an arrogant asshole who cant take what he dishes out.
not >>158075203 poster
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>a dev has said that Cassie is canonically 16 and Evie is supposed to be 12

this should be illegal
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so what do i do with 17k dosh? i've unlocked every single hero, unlocked voice packs for my all champs, and unlocked best girl skins (ying).
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>>158076558
>freedom of speech doesn't mean you can just spout out a bunch of fuckin uneducated bullshit
>everyone has loved ones
oh the ironing
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>>158077037
Save it for more skins and more champs? You never know what they might do with gold in the future.
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>>158077037
wait until the PTR to see if any current skins are turning rare
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>Playing as barick
>Kill enemy pip
>Barick: "That's why you don't feed 'em after midnight

Kek, it's the little things
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>Evie is a better nothin personnel teleporting sniper than the actual sniper

[VVGN] Hi-rez

>>158076730
>taller than Kinessa and Skye
>only 16

[doubt]
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>>158077886
>eive
>sniper

You should hit with her face to face
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>it's a Kinessa blames the loss on the team for not protecting her episode

Also i unlocked the joy ride emote for Ying how do i use it?
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>>158077886
>Evie is a better sniper
no
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>>158068332
>there are few evie r34s on the net than oinkers and healslut

why even live?
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>>158065369
Me m8

>>158068326
This is pretty accurate. Paladins community hasn't been too bad so far, but one of the reasons I stopped playing LoL was the Chinese kids
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>>158078849
>sb
>sb
>[random arguing in chinese I don't understand]
>sb
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>>15807903
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>>158079031
I just tell them to stop talking in moon runes and they shut up.
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>>158078849
>play on aussie servers
>haven't had any problems
>haven't seen any foreigners aside from some New Zealanders
I must be pretty lucky.
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>>158079404
I've had about 4 toxic people after playing Paladins for roughly 22 hours.

Not too shabby.
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>>158076730
>Blizzard
>Well people are going to do r34 of D.Va, so we better just cover our asses and say she's 19.

>Hi-Rez
>Whatever, just pick the age that sells the most voice packs and skins.
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BEHOLD
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HERES THE WIND AUUUUUUGHH
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>>158080816
TOOOOOOOOOOOT
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GIVE YOUR KING A BII-AAAAAAAAH I DIE
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BEHOLD, THE IMPOSSIBLE
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SO THIS IS DESPAIR
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>>158080689
DING
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>be ying
>win

nice game low-rez
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>>158081071
I may as well play that shit on repeat knowing how I play her
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SURRGING WITH POWAAAAAAAA

bzzzzzt
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>>158081227
make sure you have heal on teleport and worm hole 2
you just blink behind the enemy make a couple pot shots and pick up a quick kill and jump back
once I learned that I started doing much better with her
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Could someone remake this with a frontliner and Maldamba missing his heal
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What the fuck is Cassie saying in her VEA Awesome sound effect?
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>more than 600 gold
I never thought it's possible. Have you guys ever got this much gold?
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>>158081662
Double Gold weekend, goyim.
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>>158076730
Evie's age was one of the reasons why they wanted to rework her model since they felt her current model doesn't match her age.
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>>158081706
Oh well, so that's the reason. Thanks for informing me, kind sir.
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>>158081715
>B-cup breasts
>12 year old
>"Doesn't match her current age"

I have concerns.
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>>158081487
>can barely anticipate the opponent with the slow projectiles
>have to hug them and take splash damage
>seem to never have the skills I want ready
>iceblock may as well be a kill me in 4 seconds button
>broom escape doesn't do much with these fucking huge hitboxes

I cannot for the LIFE of me hit a sprinting cod man. All in all i'm doing okay but fuck my solo kills are garbage I'm not finshing my plate and I can't aim.
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Patch notes dropped yet? PTS updated? Anything going rare this patch?
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>>158081524
where the fuck do these comics come from anyways
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>play second frontliner
>enemy drogoz uses his ult on me every single time its up and nobody else like he has hard on for me for some reason
>some retard on team using BK
>not a single poppy seen happening or heard
>not a single ult tp be seen or heard despite them getting morale boost

I fucking hate this game
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>>158082075
kek
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>>158082075
It's a 4coma called Pop Team Epic (Poptepic) by Bkub (The honking Chen guy.) I think it's actually a published comic in Japan. He's gotten quite famous and has a lot of published comics.
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>>158081985
Ahaha Hi-rez dropping patch notes before the weekend, funny joke man. Maybe on Monday they'll be gracious enough to let us know what's gonna happen :)
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>>158081854
dude where you live? girls of 12 13 have more breast now

>>158082234
retard players it's nothing about the game
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What does Illuminate even do? What counts as "stealth"?

>>158082534
Hell
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>>158082645
Literally only Skye. It makes it that you can see her in stealth at longer ranges then you usually would see her.
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>>158082645
worth characters with illuminate vs sky is Barik and Ying, Kinessa if you want knw how long until you die
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>>158082751
I need to learn how Skye's invisibility properly works then.

Unrelated thing, what is a good simple item loadout for Cassie? I usually opt for Haven, Nimble, Life Rip and whatever damage card needed for the situation. Usually Wrecker.

And this is my usual loadout. I feel like everyone will use Incitement, Onslaught, Lunge and Quiver, but the fifth card changes. Drain Life defiantly has helped in some tough situations though.
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Would you a Skye?
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>>158083032
Incitement, Onslaught, Lunge and Quiver are all incredibly solid cards that make her dodge roll OP as fuck.

Honestly just choose whatever card you want to finish the deck.
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>>158083181
if she wasn't gutted

nobody even plays her anymore
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>>158083256
Well I'm comfortable with it, so I guess I'll stick with it. thanks
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>Two guys on my friends list on the enemy team
>Win against them
>They both immediately go offline at the same time
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>>158062238
I hate Drogoz mainers.
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>>158083181
Eww, used goods.
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>>158083181
>Would I a dirty elf

Yeah I'd something a Skye.
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>>158083280
>if she wasn't gutted
She's fundamentally bad in the first place. Her previous ultimate, and the ultimate before that didn't need changing, people just need to not fucking suck.

>>158083181
I give that question an emphatic: yes.
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>>158083491
At least elves aren't goblins
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>>158083592
WE BETTER NOT GET A GOBLIN GIRL
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>>158083737
>Goblin Killer is Bolt
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How do I use Drogoz? His projectiles are so slow that it would be faster to run up to the enemy and smack him with it than actually shooting it.
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>>158083563
>Her previous ultimate, and the ultimate before that didn't need changing, people just need to not fucking suck.
I think you're giving her too much credit. As mentioned in previous patch notes, Skye's ult unfairly punished those who reacted correctly to the ult in many circumstances. "Break line-of-sight" should not be the only answer, if the entire point of the ult is area denial.
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>getting a constant stream of retards in your teams again and your veins in your forehead are starting to bulge
>don't feel like playing
>but also feel like you have to since the shitty event is on

fuck you low rez
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>"today's the day I'm going to do a real game with people on the other team"
>get into game
>"maybe just one bot game to warm up"
>don't do so hot
>if I did that in a real game people would bully
>I don't want to let people down
>on second though maybe I'm not that good yet
>queue for bot game
how do I cure this autism?
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Ok idiots, add me. We'll do stupid things until I give up and go back to Overwatch

Kitakita
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>>158084032
the people you're matched with are probably autistic anyway. go nuts.
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>>158084032
>struggle against bots

just uninstall, you will only shit up actual matches
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>>158084032
its not autism, its called confidence and you aint got none, son.
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>>158082751
one of the hi-rez streamers talked about how they're supposedly adding a melee stealth champion in the future

i hope he's wrong because otherwise what the FUCK are they thinking
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>Don't go damage
>Rest of team absolutely shits the bed like incompetent retards

Well, looks I know what I have to do. Always damage, all the time. Nobody else can be trusted with the responsibility. It's a little sad.
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>>158084632
Why would you not want that?
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>>158084032
People are pretty chill most of the time because it takes more effort to spaz out via text.
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>>158085059
not the same guy, but in a game where every single fuck fuck has a fuck escape a melee hero can have serious fucking issues
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>tfw going to dip under 50% winrate soon
>just had a 1-16 kinessa on team that sometimes ran to the cap point in the middle of the action thinking they're a frontliner
>these wounds
>they will not heal

I really fucking hate this game.
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>>158084632
>>158085263
but if he also had a fuck fuck mobility skill like androxus then he would be fun
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>>158085263
Wouldn't then to counter that the new hero have an entanglement ability to ship with the new mechanic for example trading escape skill for that ability or something like that similar the turtle guy i keep forgetting his name.
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>>158085354
He'd get nerfed after pubs complained about him being a pain in the ass. Also you know every retard out there is going to instapick him, he'd be the new Andy.
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>>158085354
It would need to have great uptime. Usually a melee hero is countered by escapes, but in this situation the melee hero would need to counter escapes.
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>>158085059
>guy drops on top of you
>he's running around you meleeing you
>because he's a stealth hero he's probably agile as shit and it's just annoying to fight against

they've even talked about how they don't want an obnoxious melee hero. It's okay on Reinhardt because he's huge and can't run around you meleeing you.
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solo queue was a mistake
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>>158085406
Roadhog?
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>>158085484
well skye is pretty much a melee hero already
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>>158084651
that can be said for any class

every retard thinks they're a sniper and doesn't seem to understand damage fall off
and they play the actual sniper role badly too even when they pick shitnessa
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>>158085484
he could have a crippling attack tokeep people from moving
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>>158085484
We already have Buck for that, how would he be any different?
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>play Cassie because you told me "she's super OP lol"
>most damage
>most eliminations
>with the default cards
>several games in a row
>lose games anyway because team doesn't even get near objective
Give me the most ridiculous card setup for her.
Also, deft hands ever worth on her over wrecker or cauterize?
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Yo FUCK melee champs
It's fucking annoying to play against someone who just walks up to you and holds his mouse button
It's like you niggers never played against demoknight before.
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>>158085059
Snipers and stelf are the cancer of multiplayer.
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>>158085737
We went over it up here
>>158083032

Once I started using level 2 quiver, I never had much of a need for Deft Hands.
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>>158085737
Incitement IV and Onslaught IV with Lunge. Rolls for days.
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>>158085737
Everything that has to do with roll and Territorial. Reload is almost instant and Haven is top priority since your health is almost nil.
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>>158083181
Absolutely. Anyone would be very lucky to a Skye.
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>>158085406
a melee hero with an ability that worked like a reverse hook and pulled themselves closer to the enemy and gave bonus damage or something would be fun
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>>158085826
>It's fucking annoying to play against someone who just walks up to you and holds his mouse button

like

Fernando?
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>>158086014
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>>158086108
Except hes slow as fuck
You can turn around and F out of there most of the time
Now imagine a melee hero that travels at pip
Because that's what's gonna happen inevitably
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>>158086014
That was Grover before they made him a support a few months ago.
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>>158086329
oh. gay.
>>158086240
is that from assfaggots or some shit
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>>158086305
Nando can chase pretty well with the right cards
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>>158086395
It's Clockwerk from DotA2

>>158086305
>Nando is slow
Nope
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who is the most fun champ to play and why is it evie
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>>158086946
What a strange way to spell Bomb King.
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>>158085826
as opposed to a champ who just stays far away and holds his mouse button?
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>>158086108
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>play makoa
>master rider 3
>win
I CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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I want Evie to stab my prostate with an icicle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>158087493
what are you doing, getting to the point first and pulling their tank? It's really shit in a double tank situation if you pull their Fernando.
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>>158087605
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>>158087612
>proceed to lose to a team with no frontlines a game after
muh koa
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>Get two penta kills against a premade in a single match as Drogoz
>Enemy Cassie has a diamond border, the dumb Vampire Hunter skin and is level 15
>Fernando has the Ares skin and mastery 12
>Barik is Mastery 16 and has some hideous recolour
>They are salty and arguing in lobby chat afterwards
>They tell everyone to report the one guy in their team who wasn't in the premade

I wonder how badly I just strained their friendships. I absolutely fucking assblasted them. The highest damage on their team was a third of mine. By the end, their Mal'damba just gave up and started standing AFK out in the open for me to kill.
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>>158088546
why you don't screenshot the lobby salt and score?
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>>158088878
because it's a made up story
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>>158088878

I can screenshot the score, but the salt got wiped when I changed screen and back. Also, turns out I was wrong about the amount of damage I/they did. I thought I did 150k.

Still, two pentas.
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>>158089071
I think the real damage was to theyr ego.
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>>158088546
>They tell everyone to report the one guy in their team who wasn't in the premade
What could you possibly report someone in this situation for?
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>>158089071
oh funny I play vs that group days ago, they are bad, I'm sure cassie is fernando "gf" or something because always I chase cassie Fernando leave the point just for protect her

Sadly I leave the lobby quick, maybe they go salt as well
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I love Cassie
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>tfw go into thinking it'd be annoying
>They all want to be flankers
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How do I diamond border?
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>>158089352

Not being good enough? He coulda been flaming or feeing on purpose, who knows?

>>158089358

I've seen them a couple of times, honestly. Fernando tends to flank. Anakinstar I see a lot, too. He's not very good. Actually, he's comically bad and almost exclusively seems to play Skye.
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I'm enjoying playing grover.
>healing tons of health
>flanking and axing everything
>coming back to my team and ulting, walking right into the enemy's face as we push
anyone else playing the tree?
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>>158089838
I want to..
Unfortunately he's compost
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>60k gold
>nothing to spend it on
>double gold weekend
yawn
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>>158090256
>nothing to spend it on

what are skins
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>>158090256
>All skins that can be bought with gold are trash
>Skins worth anything are crystal or special promotions
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>>158090313
gold only skins are shit recolors
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>>158090313
shit. at least voice packs are funny
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>>158087605
>>158087657
every time
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>>158089071
>tfw playing Drogoz and some Makoa keeps hooking you out of the sky every time
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>>158090313
>>158090424
There are very few good common skins. Fernando's armors, Evie's staves and wigs, Skye's hairs, Mal's ensemble, BK's monarch skin, and some of Kinessa's outfits are the only things worthwhile.
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>>158067797
literally tracer with a rocket launcher
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Hoping for a female front that has a gunword.
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>>158091393
>Get what you ask for
>It's a dyke that's even more of a dyke than Kinessa
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>>158091829
Kinessa isn't a dyke anon. She's a /fit/ tomboy that likes boys.
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>>158091829
W-why do you want to ruin a potential waifu?
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do you ever sacrifice your kda to distract opponents as flanks?
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>>158092745
i like to jump in front of drogoz ults so he wont take out tanks or someone important and just ruin his day
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>>158092745
>m-muh kda

I hope I never have to play with you.
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>>158092745
KD doesn't win games.
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>>158093129
>implying i care
what i mean to say is, do you feed the opposing team with the intent of keeping them off the point
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>>158062025
so many skins locked behind special promotions.

have fun buying them off ebay if you want them
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>do well with character
>lose match
>be absolute shit and get carried
>win match
Why must I continue to suffer?
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>solo queue
>get matched with a shitty autist team AGAIN
>decide to go afk for the rest of the round, logging back in every so often
>round finally ends so I can get a chance to play with non-brainddeads
>got 2nd most objective time
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>>158094140
if you are that autistic, that skins matter you more than anything else then have fun paying $$$ for them.
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>>158093387
you have the typical mindset of a shitter that's not supposed to play these kind of games
just fuck off and die, permashitter
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>>158094669
sure thing
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>>158092745
yes.

I LIVE
I DIE
I LIVE AGAIN
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>>158094883
stop posting, you fucking furry
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>>158094972
i'll consider it
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>>158092941

If you really want to fuck up Drogoz, play as Ying and make an illusion in front of him.
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>>158096957
Or be Viktor and just aim at him in the sky.
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Thanks to you Dorgozbros I've really picked up my game.
>Jump on head
>Blast em dead
>Then reset the cooldowns to do it again
Still not that good but getting there

>>158096957
That sounds pretty hilarious.
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Which characters are able to do the best independently of their team? Which are incredibly reliant on a decent team to do their job decently?
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>Pip's chicken cannon doesn't affect ulting crocodile wallet or cancel eggsperience tranquiliddy :DD
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>>158097929
It'd be kind of shitty if his ult overrided Makoa's ult, unless he turned into this super buff anchor-swinging chicken
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>>158097919
Buck can be pretty self reliant and do his thing without needing heals and support from others so often. Same goes for Evie. But if you are up against better players or premades that communicate you are fucked 2v1 or 3v1 a lot.
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ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC. US 5 RANDOMS BEAT A 4 PERSON PREMADE AND A RANDOM YING
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>>158097919

Drogoz with the right builds and cards. Getting Kill to Heal 2 or one level in Veteran makes you incredibly persistent and hard to deal with.
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>>158097997
Cassie, Makoa and several others are immune to CC (including chickening) during their Ults. Some people aren't though, I know Buck isn't.
Anyone not named Nando all die to Drogoz ult though.
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As someone who thinks that anybody who plays classes in FPSs that can go invisible are the scum of the gaming community, explain to me why Skye is bad.
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>>158098259
Because she dies when you shoot her.
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>>158098259
Low health and close to melee range. If the team catches her outside her range then her only saving grace is the gorillion ranged ult. I fucking loathe stealth and sniper classes too.
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https://twitter.com/Soccer_BoyDB/status/789624844887482369?lang=en
Remember if somebody play like a retard on your team, it's because he could literally be 7 years old.
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>>158098371
>She dies when you shoot her
Doesn't matter when you can't fucking see her. Good luck aiming.
>Close range
I'm a Buck main, the only thing that saves my ass is the leap.
>I fucking loathe stealth and sniper classes too.
It's not just that invisible classes are a fundamentally bad idea, the people that play them are also scum. They can't be fucked to learn anything else so they just pick the strategy that takes no effort and has endless rewards
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>>158090750
YOU CHALLENGE MAKOA?!?!?!?
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>>158098553
BEHOLD, THE DRAGON'S FURRY!
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>>158098259
Most champs have an escape or can out duel her
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>>158098528
>Makoa is just a turtle with an anchor
ok, that's pretty funny
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>>158098632
muh koa
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>>158098552

>Can't see Skye

If she is fucking your baby ass so badly, just buy Illuminate.

>But then I won't get muh 10% damage reduction

Too bad, fucko. Skye isn't a threat to any half-decent player, which is why she is in her own personal bottom tier. Skye only does well against absolutely braindead morons.
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>>158098528
>paladidns
cute
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>>158097929
>eggsperience tranquiliddy :DD
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>>158098849
pala dindu nothings
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What's the reward after day 7 of consecutive logins?
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>>158099207
100 gold. It loops.
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>>158098163
Pretty sure Grover isn't immune to CC during SPRING HAS COME.
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>>158099360
His ult effect doesn't go away when he turns into a chicken.
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>>158098814
>can't see Skye
Just listen to the sound she does when the hidden ends. Most people are retards that uncloack before shooting. Illuminate is worth only when Skye is godly.
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>>158099360
Should I make a version with text?
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>>158100378
Did you make the androxus gif from last night?
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>>158098528
>andoracks
>macua
>racgkas
>kiassna
>vickdor
>barick
>grofer
>frianado

what a stupid kid
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>>158100378
now this definitely needs weed
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Cant fuck with buck
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Give me your best Grohk loadout.
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How very call of duty of them
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>>158101693
DEM THIGHS
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Which hero would you like to be buddies with the most?
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>>158100783
dude
we get it
you are good with buck
stop posting now
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>>158102897
No don't, I want to see the journey to #1 Buck.
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>>158102850
Brover
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>>158102897
CANT UNBUCK THE BUCK
Why do i always have to carry this shit, jesus christ, when will people learn to buy items accordingly to the game and everything
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>>158102850
Ying
I want her to be my best friend so when I feel depressed she will console me with sex and blowjobs
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>play siege
>using Cassie
>no one of my team is on point, bat maybe Mal'Damba who happens to heal me sometimes
>try to defend from both Viktor, Kinessa and Skye
>try to score some point by myself, ending face to face to a Ruckus
>(Barik): "noob"
>OH SHIT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BARIK
>never saw a turret in this match
>never saw a shield
>never saw him defending the point
>watch his equip
>Aggression.
>ends up with half of my points

>>158100593
>that Kinessa
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>>158102897
>>158103234
Fuck forgot pic
Also i found out something interesting this game, i think theres a hardcap on 60% reload speed because i think i reloaded the same with deft 2 and deft 3 + the reload speed card
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This game is pretty shitty once you get past the very thin layer of "fun".

The matchmaking is garbage, weaker players get stomped on and good players get put against trash, which makes them worse players over time.

This casual game has no solo queue option at all, they don't seem to care about their solo players (even though they obviously make up the largest base of players).

They seem to want to pander to the more hardcore players, yet aimboxes are barndoors.

Cheaters are rewarded by remaining on the leaderboard for months after even being banned.

The amount of alt accounts is through the roof, guaranteeing newer players get a bad time.

Are they actively trying to destroy their own game or what? They need to decide who they are trying to appeal to, because right now they are pissing everyone off.
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>>158103537
These are the people who abandoned Tribes to get on the moba train.
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>>158103537
>The amount of alt accounts is through the roof, guaranteeing newer players get a bad time.

this is the price of f2p.
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>>158103537
I'm fine personally. Also most players group up given my experience, game's funner with friends.

As for the leaderboard and months thing; that thing's been out for A month. They'll likely patch it out one day.
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>>158103882
The point is that they are fucking up, players should not want to make new accounts.
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>>158104130
Source? Something more representative than a couple people saying they're doing that?
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>>158076730

>evie is 12
>not flat
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>want to use ying
>just mash illusion every time its off cd
>lose
>team blames me
>I still got 2nd-3rd in team damage
what more could I have done?
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>>158103537
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>>158104775
>218k dmg
>112 eleminations
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>>158104775
Getting matches like that were fun when we were teens but today they're just depressing.
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>>158103537

such a negative outlook

good players player with shit players does not make the good players shit; it's the other way way around

duo que is basically solo que, I played before and after the change and only people complaining were the ones who stopped winning for whatever reason and blamed it on "stacks"

cheaters aren't "rewarded" for being on a leaderboard they don't update. This is like some guy making graffiti on a billboard, the company is not rewarding the guy for leaving it up, they just haven't fixed it yet (it actually doesn't matter)

new player accounts through the roof and you somehow see this as a bad thing
Shouldn't you like a growing game ?

This is also ridiculous. Almost like bitching that your favorite restaurant is busier than they used to be (they're busy because they are doing a great job)

This is not the first post in this general that has read like yours and I'm honestly baffled at the mental gymnastics people go through to keep themselves unhappy
>>
i'm currently testing out how reports affect your account. i'm assuming it would be a total ban or something if enough reports are given.

so, /palg/, how do i get reported quickly?

this is my initial plan - lock fernando or ying at the first few seconds, then BAM, pick kinessa or skye.
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>>158105243
afk or kill yourself repeatedly during the match. Or just call everyone niggers.
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>>158105243

they won't ban you for doing that

I'm pretty sure you have to avoid the chat filter and call people bad names
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>>158105283
tried name calling on chat, no one responded, maybe because no one actually knows chat exist.

tried suiciding a few times, still no reports, or maybe have gathered some. still no negative consequences though.

>>158105312
what i said above
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>>158105283
I afk all the time during matches when it's a shit matchup, never had a problem

i normally get the rest of the team to do the same.
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>>158083181
Skye is the cutest.
Is there anything she can't do?
https://my.mixtape.moe/fojdsl.mp4
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>>158105017
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>>158100428
Yup. Just shitty paint.net stuff, but you know.
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Ok senpai I have finally produced the balls to do my first non-bot game. Wish me luck!

I'm fucking doomed
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>>158106549
You'll be fine.
>>
how does the ranking system in paladins work?
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>>158105243
Post the account you want reported on /palg/ and ask anons to report you.
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>>158106192

INFINITE K:D?
>>
For people that are pissed off with this game, I would suggest not playing until they go final with it. This is a fucking awful beta.

They really have no fucking idea what they are doing and you will get sour as fuck towards it if you keep playing while they are trying to figure it out.

>>158106192 this is fucking ridiculous and they should be ashamed at how badly their matching system is working.
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>>158106192
Holy fucking shit I've never seen a game go that badly for anyone yet.
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>>158106637

Get to level 30 before you quit, because you may get a super special EXCLUSIVE SKIN for your troubles when the launch comes.
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In playing Kinessa, I have learned one thing: no matter how good or bad I am, I should not play Kinessa, because these idiots desperately need a competent frontliner or healer and can't be depended upon to save themselves
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>>158106728

I feel that way, but I always have to play a damage dealer so I can wipe out the enemy team on my own or at least deal 3x the damage of the next best player on my team. Whenever I play frontliner or healer, I find myself 1v5 against the whole enemy team while my allies get killed like fucking pigs by a single enemy Skye or Andro.
>>
>want to see what the fuss is about ranked
>12 champs at mastery 4 needed

I get it but most are the champs are shit to play with imo this will be a fucking pain.
>>
>>158106728
What I learned about playing Kinessa is that those mines are super important in being an actual good Kinessa that doesn't just stay in a sniper hole all game and actually even get on the point sometimes. Proactive Kinessa is fun Kinessa.
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>>158106847
Yeah annoying but still not a fucking joke like "lol just get to level 25" in memewatch.
>>
>>158106854
That's a lesson I learned in watching those infuriatingly static kinessas that plague regular games. When your objective is "Kill a path to the point" instead of "Get kills", you do a lot better.
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>>158106847
it was a grind and it made me hate over half of them
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>>158106854

>Throw mines all over the choke points and flanks
>Run around with the tank and healer
>Buy Morale Boost if you're doing well
>TRY AND RUN
>Force the enemy team off the point lest they take a million DPS from the combination of bonus mine damage and ult power

She's like Shitty Viktor, really.
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>>158106942
Remember to still snipe though. That powered up headshot damage is too good to not use.
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>>158107015

Yeah, snipe when you can and when you're safe to keep people out-ranged and harassed. I find most of my time is spent slowing and spraying people at close-medium range, but that's just how I like to play.
>>
>>158106927
although I prefer OW now this I didn't miss now that was dumb especially when the game encourages you to switch you would get a retarded "main" faggot
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DIRTY MEAN POWAH
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>>158106549
>>158106578
d-did I do okay?
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>>158107132
I'd say alright. Credits are a great way to gauge how well you've done though, and you've done better than the rest of the other team
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>>158106847
I didn't mind it because I enjoy playing pretty much all of the characters.
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>>158107132
suck fern's cock more faggot keep him alive and distract on the point with your clones

you did ok
>>
Is Muh Koa's anchor projectile or hitscan?
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>>158107132
this:
>>158107220

stay on the point and keep the tank alive.
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>>158089071
>>158088546
>premade
according to whom? cbashee has no other games with shinigami either according to her match history

>lying on 4chan
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>>158107264

I guess you were right, you showed me.

Truthfully, I assumed they were a premade because they were all defending each other and justifying their loss, and the Barik was with those people before according to a friend of mine.
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>>158107227
I wouldn't mind knowing either, I seem to miss & hit with it so fucking randomly.
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>>158107227
>>158107478
Projectile. It travels exactly like the animation shows. From your left up to your crosshair at maximum range. So the closer an enemy is, aim more to their right to land your anchors.
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>>158107478
>>158107227
I'm about 90% sure it's a projectile since I'd like to think my aim with it is pretty good and I typically lead my shots a little bit
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>>158107497
>So the closer an enemy is, aim more to their right to land your anchors.
Okay, that makes sense. I'm missing more often when the enemy is in mid-range.
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>>158106192

>one post screen proves your point

yea nah, I can't even know if that is actually from ranked

even if it was it was probably bots doing so poorly
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>>158092745
I don't care much about kda in general. I'll willingly trade if the enemy has a longer ride back from spawn than me or if it's on a player that's giving my team trouble.
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>>158106940
>try to play yang
>on the point with the gremlin
>enemy skye is up my ass
>nobody but the gremlin is even near me
>die every time

If I was evie or cassie I could have done so much more this is awful
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>>158107168
Are credits there actually accurate for what you spent? I think I bought one cooldown reduction item and one direct damage taken reduced item but I Think the cost was 700, not 610?

>>158107220
>>158107260
t-thanks. I just kind of threw my Q out around the point every time it was up and tried to sporadically not die. The enemy ruckus was bullying me a lot.
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>>158107853
The credits is total
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>>158103335
This isn't a carry. You're the only pure damage class so it's expected that you'll have the most damage/kills assuming everyone on your team is of equal skill. The only one under-performing on your team is Skye, probably because she's playing a shit character.
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>>158104775
How did this match even last long enough for everyone to get that many kills? Did you willingly let them cap a few times just to pad stats?

Also how the fuck does Barik has 3k credits with 1 kill, 30 deaths, no damage blocked, no objective time.

Did you photoshop this? It makes no sense whatsoever.
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>>158107880
I see. So did I play poorly to get half the credits of some of my team mates, or did they just play really well?
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WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT THE POINT?
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>>158062025
What are the least played Champs?
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>>158108124
I'd just say be on the point more. I know your teammates can't be relied on often, but just being on the point and keeping the frontliner pumped full of health points is useful and will reflect itself in your 'income'
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>>158108126
I feel like it's cheating when you have a ying and a nando on the same team.
I've never lost with that combo
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>>158108185
okay thanks anon!
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>>158108151

last i checked it was grover,ruckus, kinessa, evie
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>>158108124
>>158107132
Given how OP Ying is atm, you should doing a bit more offensively to help your team. You never want to chase kills and leave your team without a healer, but the range on Ying's weapon is great for harassment and her shatters are great for chasing down hiding enemies trying to heal and finishing people off who are low health.

Healing is your primary concern always though. Never be the frontline Ying unless the enemy team is bad enough that you won't be punished for it.
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>>158108446
>2 of the 4 least played are qts
>there are barely even that many qts to begin with
suffering
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What the fuck do I buy as Viktor to counter people buying Haven?
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>>158101693
Healing Rain IV - superhealz for you and your tanks
Gale III - amazing card
Haunting II - ghost more often, lower totem cd more often
Crackle I - an extra tick of superhealz
Outreach II - heal further
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>>158108646

Shoot harder. Cassie has the same problem, really. I remember facing a Drogoz who went Haven 3 and my shots did practically no damage to him, while his shots killed me in 2 shots.

Realistically, what you should be doing is shooting the people who don't have Haven or have a lower level of it. Cull the weak, separate them from the herd, and those who you can't kill will be left without support.

Alternatively, don't play Viktor.
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>>158107930
How is it not? Think about it a little bit
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>>158108717

What bothers me a bit about Grohk is that a lot of people seem to not realise his ult fucking heals allies. It's not as effective as Grover's ult, but it shits healing and grants extra movespeed. So many shitty Grohk players use it as some kind of offensive ability to try and get kills instead of an ability to turn a teamfight around.
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any tips for playing her? I want to main her
please don't tell me to play someone else
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Man this was a rough game I hear many people talk about how OP Ying is like >>158108608 but what do I do to win with her?

>Teleporting to my clone/flower never really works in my favor
>deploying my clone never seems worth it with its pitiful damage and slow speed
>its hard to track targets with her primary fire
>other healers are more mobile or tanky

frustrating if anything
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>>158109063
Uninstall foolproof
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>>158108882
I did. You clearly didn't. There's nothing special about having the best offensive stats as the only pure offensive player.

Fernando has tons of damage blocked and a decent amount of damage done. Also had few deaths and loads of objective time.
Skye was underperforming as I said by not by a significant enough margin to say she contributed nothing
Androxus has good damage and his lack of solo kills probably just meant he was finishing off lots of low health enemies while they were running away.
Pip could have had more healing but his did a fair amount of damage and stayed on the and rarely died. The fact that he was almost always on the battlefield so the enemies couldn't just focus down fernando contributed.

It was a pretty even match all in all.
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>>158109063
Get cards that focus on either hidden or kills try and be unpredictable i play bk and i stick bombs on stupid hidden skyes all the time
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>>158109063
It used to be good to get moral boost and use your ult at key moments. It's pretty shit now though, you will be lucky to kill 1-2 people with it.
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>>158109063
this is clearly not a game where you should "main" only one character.
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my lowest win percentage with a champion is about 15%
none of you are as bad as me, right?

being a solo frontline ruckus is misery incarnate
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>>158109141
Your Kinessa underperformed as Kinessas tend to do whereas their Skye was very good.

>Teleporting to my clone/flower never really works in my favor
MAking the most of out this really just comes from experience. I typically end up using it as javascript:;an outplay when I'm 1v1ing someone. I'll drop the phantom, while kiting and attacking someone, and then when I'm below half-health, I'll tele back and try to confuse them.
>deploying my clone never seems worth it with its pitiful damage and slow speed
When you're able to use your primary fire to good effect, shattering two clones while burning someone down is actually pretty huge spike damage.
>its hard to track targets with her primary fire
Just practice. It's easy for me because I have thousands of hours in previous FPS games so it's just a matter of building muscle memory over time. If you haven't already, lower your sensitivity and get used to it.
>other healers are more mobile or tanky
But they don't have the all-around capabilities of Ying. Ying is good at everything whereas other healers tend to sacrifice healing ability for offensive power or tankiness.
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>>158106847
>>158106940

The "grind" is extremely short. You are all casuals
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>Tfw top 100 as barick.
>Tfw nonstop winning streak.
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>skye shows up
>roll, shot, dis, shot, dead, every time
>her team bullies her hard in post-game and assumes she's a bot (even though it was clear she really did try)

i'm so sorry
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>>158109625
>things that never happened
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>tfw my win rate is slowly going down
>constant losing streaks
>I'm usually the best on my team
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>playing as frontline
>Most dmg/shield/objective/eliminations
>all these friend requests.

I-is this what it feels like to be popular?
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>>158109203
So the fact that i have the most damage, even than every guy on the opponet team means nothing? Holding 3+ guys in their spawn everytime is doing nothing? That can only happen if only i were in their faces at almost all times, which was the case here and is what bucks job is
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>>158109776
no one ever cares when i do this because we usually lose
must be nice
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>>158109949
>means nothing
When did I say that? You did well, but you didn't carry.
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>>158108921
When I actually learned it actually healed/sped up allies as well I transcended to an actual good Grohk.
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>>158109708
I need to get better with Cassie, I often do stupid shit like roll onto the point when the entire enemy team is there.
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>>158109967

I have 30 or so randoms that have added me in my time playing. I just accept most of the friend requests I get. It's pretty nice.
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>>158110235
I had 3 pages of pending friend requests I deleted yesterday, never accepted any from randoms.
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>>158109448
I see where you are trying to get at but even if I was much better I don't see how If I was any better would change that outcome or any outcome really,well in a way to consider her OP. Shes a very good healer though. I feel like people throw the word around too much but I'm still new and still suck. Getting these characters to mastery 4 will be a pain bye bye winrate.

Also what the hell does her ult do?
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>11 loosing streak
WHY DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY HEALERS REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158110515
this game needs a designated healslut with barely any combat capabilities. Current healers are too strong. I can literally carry shitters with Ying.
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>>158110394
Her ult spawns a healing orb at every ally anywhere on the map for a few seconds.

Thing about her primary fire is that once you get good enough at tracking to consistently hit every tick of damage, you also get the bonus tick at the end so your dps increases quite a bit. Add that to her shatter, you can 1v1 most of the scrubs playing dps classes in casual with little difficulty.
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>>158109407
I have 0% winrate on Bomb King
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>>158110004
Sure anon, sure
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>>158111152
Glad you understand.
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>>158083915
Try staying at medium range max and shoot from above. It goes without saying you should lead your shots
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>>158110598
What would that accomplish exactly?
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>>158110598
hi-rez doesn't want one because they aren't fun.

I unironically find Mercy more fun than Lucio and Ying though
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Drogoz's ult is so fucking cheap. No skill required, completely undodgeable.
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>>158111346
A support that needs to be played as a support and cannot be played as a wannabe flanker/damage.
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>>158110990
Don't worry, even the worst get carried eventually.
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>>158111604
NOT YET AMIGO
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>>158111604
>completely undodgeable
You clearly haven't played enough Ying.
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Grohk's totem needs more health by default. It's ridiculous that I would have to invest three points into the health card so it doesn't get one shotted by Drogoz.
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>>158111363
Because Mercy plays on the Z axis. Her whole job is to find the best places to hide and maintain healing. Compare that to Lucio who just has to jump around, Ana who just sits still and Zenyatta who's fighting alongside the big guys.
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>join a game with randoms
>we have a diamond Viktor
>think we'll at least have a good dps

>end of the match, we lose 4-0 (I was Nando and our Ruckus tried to be a flanker at all times, Maldamba as """healer""")
>check Viktor's stats
>0 eliminations
>13 deaths
>less dmg than me

How the fuck do you even not get a SINGLE elimination as a dps

Fucking hell
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>>158111767
I wish it was immune for the first 2 seconds or something.
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>>158111604
It's easy to dodge, I've dodged it lots of times. The problem is that it lasts for ages and he just circles around and hits you with it after you dodge.

The main problem though is Dragoz can charge his ult really damn fast if played well.
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>>158111929
You can also like, you know, shoot him.
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what changes for me once i am eligible to play ranked games?
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>>158112183
You get stomped by people who cooperate
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>>158111604
You can lay down things for him to run into, like Grohk's totem, Barik's turrets, Ying's illusions, not sure about BK's stickies and Kinessa's mines.
Movement abilities can give you a bit of time, but mostly for others to shoot him down.
Some ults counter his, most notably Fern's.
If all else fails, be on the lookout and just shoot him dead before he reaches anyone.
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http://paladins.gamepedia.com/Cards

What's the deal with a card's rarity? Was it just some old pay2win BS that they decided to do away with for the sake of balance?
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>>158112263
You had to use ingame gold to upgrade your cards in the closed beta.

RIP in piss dumb feature, you will not be missed.
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I found another one for the collage.

From this morning.

On another note, I keep going up against this one Cassie who is pretty unfun to play against. Their name is something like Barr-something, i think. Like around mastery 20.

Just easily killing my entire team. Do any of you think she's due for some kind of nerf in the future? I suppose I can let it slide though, since it took them lots of playtime to get to that point.
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How does one play fernando? Especially when all of your team has double digit objective time aside from the other barik that seems to shield better than he does.

Or is it one of those sucks until you get cards champs?
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I just figured out why good players get matched with cripples.

It takes all individual players rankings into account, if you're a good player and the opponents are all average it gives you shitters in your team to try average it out.

Make a new account and you'll see, I'm getting massive kill streaks and still usually lose cause the rest of the team die constantly.
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>>158113393
>tfw when you're a shitter that gets paired with even worse shitters against premades
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>>158109063
if your enemy has squishy damage. go and flank them.
if all of them group up and those that can stay put in objective just flank them from sides and smoke them to disturb their flow
you need to get your ulti up ASAP to help secure objective.
pick off those who are running away and low in health.
most important, learn the map and routes so you know where to position yourself
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is grover bad?
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>>158113647
>tfw games are just about "which team is the least retarded"
>you end up with more than 40% of the total obj time, red team included
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>>158114135
I do much better on any other healer except Mal'Damba. His heals are piss compared to Ying or Healing Rain IV Grohk.
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>>158114135
He's midtier. I hate when pubs pick him because they're just going to stand miles back trying to get kills instead of actually acting as a support, not to mention only every use their ult to save themselves.
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>ur casuals becuz you don't want to play 12 heroes to mastery 4 XD

fuck this
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>>158114472

>6k damage

I bet he had heaps of fun with his meme bombs, at least.
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>>158114890
Not once he throw the large "EXPLOOOOODE" bomb on the point to help me CC muh koa and I was getting the fuck shit pelted outta me by le CoD man.

I'm convinced that all bomb king players save for a few are mentally retarded. People in that game died more than I did and I basically did suicide missions on the payload.
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>>158110598
That's one of the things I hated about OW and like about this game though. Supports that aren't sitting ducks and can put up a fight are 10x more fun.
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>>158078424
there is plenty of the original though so go knock yourself out
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>>158106084
>https://my.mixtape.moe/fojdsl.mp4
wew lad
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>>158115063
Yeah, and rather than keeping their teams alive, people have """"""fun''''''''''''''''. Grovers playing sniper, furshit having 8k healing and yings playing flank while the tank is getting assraped on the objective

There are supports with balanced heal and damage, there are ones with more damage than heal, there should be one with more healing capabilities than damage.

Also in OW only Mercy was like this. Zen often did more damage than dps' and Lucio is one of the most annoying trash to fight.
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>>158115285
If you make a character like that then nobody will every want any of the other supports in their party. They'll essentially get a 100% pickrate.
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>>158114472
u can buy boosters anon!
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>>158115273
where the fuck did that come from and where is the cassie one
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>>158115285
There is a clear difference between running off into a random direction and dying without doing anything which shitters will do regardless of which class they are playing, and actively contributing to your team's DPS. For instance there are times when trying to get a last moment clutch heal is just not worty it given that they can die right before the heal affects them (or even just die anyway after being healed) and instead it's smarter to focus on killing the enemy first and then healing if the other team mate is still alive. I like Ying a lot specifically because her attack is so fucking good when your aim is on point. And yes Mercy was the biggest borefest I ever played, I don't mind playing support for my randoms but if they suck/can't keep me from harm as well I like the fact that I can still get shit done on my own.
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>>158098528
okay thats cute
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>>158115414
OW tells me the exact opposite. In comp/high rank play supports with combat skills are desired, nobody wants/plays Mercy.
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>>158115763
>when your aim is on point
why the hell would you just aim at the point?
what is that accomplishing?
once you cap, that's pretty useless
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>>158116109
That's only because Ana is superbly overpowered in every way. Mercy used to have 100% pick rate before Ana existed. Mercy/Lucio used to be the support structure in every pro match with a little bit of Zenyatta for the patch that he was overpowered.
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>>158116189
Are you being dense on purpose?
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>>158116189
As in, "when your aim is good".
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>>158116189
I'll just assume this is a joke.
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>>158116472
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>>158116189
go away anatoly
don't you have something to be garroshing?
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>>158114135
any champion is good against a shit enemy team
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>>158106084
>https://my.mixtape.moe/fojdsl.mp4
um, can we get more of this?
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Every match I tell people not to buy aggression, but they still do. Why?
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>>158117506
how do i play vs people that arent shit?
comp matches at 4k are like this too
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>>158116189
This is some real CWC shit
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>>158117523
I still don't understand it. It's better to just get Wrecker or Cauterize.
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>>158117671
>tfw more damage as Ying with cauterize than damage/flank shitter with aggression

ooga booga
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>>158115285
>>158115285
I'm a healslut in many games but something I know about any MMO is healers who can do damage are more worth than a pure heal characters, about the "fun" factor depend of the player not the character, grover, grokh, ying, pip can be full healers and do it great but if the players are retards and think they are flankers/dps thats people problem, not character issues

Mercy is mindless, is fun for me and I love play with her but with Ying I can change something else and change the game, not just for wait for my party die and POTG
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>>158117523
>>158117671
Aggression is the counter to Haven/Blast Shield and people on the enemy team always buy that
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>>158117805
Pip is not a healer.
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who /forced 50/ here
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>>158118370
Reaload IV
Medicinal Excellence 3+

Yeah Pip can be a good flanker/dps with explosive flask build but he can be healer
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if i'm flank and getting less kills, but a lot less deaths than the opposing flank, am i performing better or worse than them?
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>>158118463
That nando though completely carried those shitters
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>>158118695
no because you are an assasin, you work is kill not be a pussy
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>>158118463
you literally always pick damage classes/flankers

>but I can't carry from tank/support!

because ur shit lmao
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>>158118848
I'd rather say that nando just did his job ie nothing special. Shielding and point capping is somewhat overvalued in total credits.
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>>158118982
nah if anything it's undervalued
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>>158118463
How do bk and kinessa have so much dmg and dont actually have a lot of deaths? What are you doing son?
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>tfw cant into drogoz

just gonna get mastery 4 and drop him
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>>158119185
>t. nando mainer
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>>158106084
which one of you faggots made this and why aren't you making more?
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>>158119191
they get fed off my team, theres only so many times you can kill everyone when playing alone on the map
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>>158119368
>t.aggresion buyer
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>play evie
>not!Reaper ult incoming
>get in ice block
>die anyway
>bomban stuck me with bombs
>get on broom
>die anyway

nevertheless, my first game with wormhole-evie was a blast, I think I found what I want to do for the rest of my life
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>>158113220

be annoying enough that the enemy team actually hits you instead of your team
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>>158119406
When you kill kinessa and/or bomb king and you see someone else is dead on their team as well, just camp near their spawn as a flanker, its such easy to do shit in that way its unreal, especially if its some shit like cassie, pip, snek, bk and youre andro
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>>158119427
that doesn't make any sense

you just cofirmed you're some retarded passive nando mainer who just sits on the objective with his shield up, gets shit on and then just rides back on it to die and die again because he has no awareness of anything
>m-muh shield up on point
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>>158119443
I feel sorry for that enemy Makoa. Dem feels. His team was fucking garbage.
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>>158119735

o dear it's retarded

maybe compare how well nando did compared to ruckus
. Your just upset that kinessa and vicktor can't feed you free wins
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>>158119903
>o dear it's retarded
>not posting the dog comic
how about you not post on your phone
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>TS premade vs pubbies who buy aggression first
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>>158119903
yeah, you definitely are a retarded passive nando mainer that never plays any other roles

got it
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Champs should also have a melee atack
Y/N?
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How do we fix Bolt?
More stickers?
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>>158120638
By murdering Ruckus in his sleep so Bolt would finally be free.
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>>158120631
Only if it's a separate weapon.
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>>158120638
>>158120736
>ONE OF THESE DAYS RUCKUS
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>>158120638
the way we fix all elves

orc dick
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>>158120428

kill youself until you hit lvl 30 and come back
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>>158121464
but I'm nearing level 50, nando-tard
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>>158121525

the credit count in general is abyssmal and you sound like a retard for wanting to nerf it more

You only had 3k with 44 elims ffs
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>>158121685
I did? Now what in the fuck makes you think I've posted any of my own scores? Just. how, HOW, fucking retarded are you? Do you actually think I'm that otakugurl guy? jesus christ lmao

If you had any goddamn knowledge of this game and experience you'd know how inflated shielding and objective bonuses are compared to the others. But you don't. And you need even more credits just for sitting on your passive nando ass.
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>>158121525
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>>158121984

>didn't even carry the game he posted
>just crys about losing to nando

LMAO
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>>158122104
>>158122196
Wow... you really are fucking braindead and delusional.
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>>158121984

obj is the only thing that matters nub

go play a tdm game
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>>158122289
Just stop posting you retarded delusional mongoloid. Just how much more humiliation do you want?
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reminder that if you are first pick and you don't pick Fernando or Ying, you should kill yourself.
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>>158122667

kys my man

credit income is not the problem

it's the power gap between fernando and ruckus
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>>158120631
Yes. Drogoz needs to be able to smash people's heads in with that tail of his. Make it hit really far below him if he's in the air.
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>>158123098
>im first pick
>either pick mokoa or bk
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>>158118365
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>>158123495

makoa is ok

would dodge bk pick tho
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>>158123098
Let shitters play the bitch roles instead of wasting a DPS spot on some moba migrant who'll be completely useless.
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>>158123168
It's not about credit income, you fucking dense imbecile. It's about overvaluing their actual impact on the game. That nando in that game did nothing special according to the score, he did his job. He most likely wasn't the best player on the enemy team either. It's just that shielding and objective time are overvalued in the final score compared to any other tasks. There might have been less deaths overall if that nando spent less time just sitting on the objective with his shield up and getting bloated reward for it. Anyone can do that as nando, I've done it and I've never felt like I earned it. I don't like being passive nando though it needs to be done sometimes when your teammates are too stupid to do the objective if you go harass squishies.

Nothing to do with Ruckus and everything to do with this retarded comment
>>158118848
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>>158123825

t. upset he can't carry as andro anymore

They actually are the most important so they are not overvalued

that wasn't me who said that btw
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>tfw losing because your team is filled with passive bitches too scared to go destroy Barik's turrets because they'll take some damage while at it, also they can't handle a fucking Evie at all

yeah better to let Barik get healed by his turrets repeatedly and let the turrets do more damage to your team over time
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>>158123385
How did Drogoz fit those rings and that crown onto his tail?
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>>158124071
It was extremely painful.
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>>158120631
mite b cool. The 30 damage melee attack is actually something I liked about Overwatch.
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>>158124180
It is the biggest bullshit in the game and enables the most disgusting and arrogant gameplay. Consider suicide my man if you actually like it.
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>>158123960
I don't even play Andro, you absolutely retarded fuck. You're so fucking stupid. Holy shit. Just kill yourself, shitter.
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>>158124112
He's a big lizard.
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>>158124490
Sorry you got humiliated when someone punched you in the face during their POTG.
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What point does Ruckus have? He is inferior at shielding and he does piss poor damage outside his ult.
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>>158124618
for you
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>>158125174
Stomp noobs and pubs whdon't know how to flank
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>>158125174
his q can save the team from being wiped out from an ult and he wrecks shields.
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>>158125174
> it's again one more "Ruckus is bad just because I lack any game sense and aim" episode
Kys
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>>158118365
>10% defense boost vs 5% damage boost
>ITS LE COUNTAH!!11!!111
You never went far in your academical life, right?
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>>158125813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMHnh2zEfGQ&feature=youtu.be&t=770

Lead Designer of Paladins > Your shitpost
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>>158125174
Ruckus should be able to use all of his abilities at all times. And he needs a buff or two.
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>have about 8 games with evie after buying her
>haven't lost once
>play first game today
>4 stack on my team who pick two tanks and two supports
>flank and kill some guys while they all die
>3 guys chasing me and they still lose the point
>EVIE DO YOUR JOB OR ALL FOUR OF US WILL REPORT YOU
>tell me i'm bad at evie every time I die
>tell him to fuck off
>we lose
>queue again
>same stack but on the enemy team
>they pick the same exact lineup
>constantly go out of their way to try and kill me
>they lose 4 to 1
they all have 40% or lowerwin rate with evie too. I wish this game had a mute button
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>>158125986
I honestly think they should give him an eject button for the suit.
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>>158126049
It does? press tab press the white chat box icon
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>>158125979
go fuck yourself, wetbore
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>>158104751
>https://twitter.com/Soccer_BoyDB/status/789624844887482369?lang=en

Carry the game. You can LITERALLY outplay anyone with Ying and Evie.
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>>158123385
>give him a tail that looks like a club with spikes on it
>can't use it as a melee weapon

dead game confirmed
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>>158125979
Exactly, which is why the designers of video games are always the best players as well.

Oh wait you're just retarded. The designer also said he made hitboxes big because his aim is trash and also wants people to be able to play with a controller.
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>>158126049
this is why you mute everyone at the start

people never have anything useful or helpful to say, if you are winning they might be nice or usually say nothing at all but the moment anything starts to go wrong everyone starts blaming others for everything BECAUSE I AM THE BEST I AM A GOD I CAN DO NO WRONG OTHERS FUCKED UP WHEN I WENT AGAINST 1V4 ENEMIES AT THE OBJECTIVE AND DIED BY MYSELF OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THIS TEAM FUCKING UNINSTALL YOU SHITLORDS REEEEEEEEE
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Is anyone else getting the bug where 9/10 times Buck's crosshair is a lot smaller than it should be?
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It's a lets carry the shitter noob Skye episode. Asaide that we did pretty well.
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>>158125979
>bad designed powerup
>BLURP HURP ITS K00L1!!!
No its not, considering that there is no defense stat, a 600 damage attack makes with haven a 540 damage attack. BUT WAIT, if the enemy uses Aggressor, it surly goes back to 600 or more, right? Nope, 570. Yeah, truly a great counter.
Counter = nullyfing the effect completly and unleashing a reaction. If Aggresor truly is Haven's counter, it should even things out completly, which it doesnt. It just acts as a dampener.
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People still think I'm troll picking when I pick bomb king ;-;
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>>158126626
nice you won 5v4
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>>158126694
>>158126626
>your team has 1 shitter
>enemy team has 4 shitters
>carry
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Does Paladins have a competitive system?
Is it not fucking garbage like Overwatch's?
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>Play Drogoz because I need that Mastery ranking
>get on a team with Pip, Skye, Makoa and Victor
>okay, should be doable... maybe
>enemy has Fernando, Edgelord, Ruckus, Ying and Buck
>nope.jpg
>we push hard in the beginning but lost
>See Makoa player playing hide and seek with enemy Buck AT OUR FUCKING BASE
>???
>Enemy Buck plays our Makoa like a fiddle
>should I help him or not, it looks like Makoa has a blast
>kill buck anyway
>1-1 happend
>next round, it happend again, obviously at this point I lost all hope for Makoa to stop trying to solo that one guy
>3-1 happend
>Makoa player has a shitfit
>calls everyone a noob and demands a better team
>call him out on his hide and seek gameplay
>he gets super aggressive, throws personal insults at me
and that was the point where I only decided to taunt at the sidelines, prompting the Makoa player to just type out "OMFG!!!" once he saw me taunt nonstop near spawn.
Thanks for reading
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>>158127123
Depends what you mean by garbage. These games have lower skill ceilings than games like quake and counter strike so pro players aren't going to seem that much better than any other high elo player.

If you got 4 mechanically competent friends together you could probably make it far in the challenger league at a minimum.
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>>158126686
decks?
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>>158126686
Most people are absolute shit at playing bomb king, so it makes sense they think he's bad.
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>>158127978
>love playing BK
>can't land those fucking lagshot stickies even if my life depended on it
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I will not die, not yet, amigo.
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>>158127861
I think I just copied it from the leaderboard
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>>158128498
>playing with your premade butt buddies
>needing a pocket ying as nando
>bragging about it on this shit general
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>>158128901
The general is shit because people like you whine about premades and muh forced 50 meme.
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>>158129334
Shut up, butthurt retard. Your premade scores don't impress anyone.

>needing a pocket ying
>as fucking nando

lel
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>>158129581
I'm not the one that posted the picture, just calling a literal crying baby.
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>>158129651
>I-I just defend this one anon for no reason whatsoever
and this is why SJW are cancer
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>>158129651
So you're the Ying or Pip. You can go fuck yourself, too. Or you 3 should go fuck each other. Fags.
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>>158129760
Nice literacy. I didn't defend anyone, I pointed out the fact that you're the cancer killing the general.

>butthurt
>fags
>but buddies
You're literally a teenager.
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>>158129842
No that's not me, retard.

These are all me
>>158128901
>>158129581
>>158129765

Now go fuck yourself and your 2 faggot buddies, retard.
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>>158129765
>>158129760
Go back to /owg/ and /lolg/
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>>158129943
You're a absolute shitter regardless.
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>>158129954
Are you the third faggot from this faggot party
>>158128498 ?

All 3 faggots crying and jerking each other off in this thread.
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>>158126523
>The designer also said he made hitboxes big because his aim is trash and also wants people to be able to play with a controller.
Did he really? Wow, and here I was thinking that TF2 community has it bad
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>>158126049
Everybody loves to blame evie but to be fair lots of shitters pick her

>start a game
>guy on my team: is evie even good or people that play her just suck?
>other guy: I think she sucks
>me:shes a little hard to play but shes really damaging and good no room for error though
>guy:ok...

And then I proceed to go ham while my team spammed com messages. While I'm still new and I must have been stomping other noobs she is a great flanker and people need to stop shitting on her.
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>>158129842
>complains about literacy
>then proceeds to misuse "literally"
no John, YOU are the children.
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someone posted a futa movie file on /b/ earlier, they said it was from this game.

Is this game like overwatch or what? thinking about getting it when I get home to play at the weekend. for the purple latex sluts
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>>158130154
Yeah. Things are pretty grim.
https://youtu.be/ZMHnh2zEfGQ?t=16m22s
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>>158129334
>>158129651
>>158129842
>>158129954
>>158130013

>try to show off
>get called out and shit on
>cry and have your faggot friends chime in
>cry in unison

lel
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>>158130306
Purple slut with an haram chinese elf sucking the dick?
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>>158130337
>be a dumb whiny baby
>get called out
>have a tantrum
>accuse people of having a part of a match/team
>thinks even if that was true it would excuse him from being a crying child
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>>158130306
It's pretty similar to overwatch, yeah. People move slower but have more mobility options, time to kill is moderately longer, maps are as a whole more open. It's f2p, so
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>>158130523
I can smell your butthurt. It's stinking up this thread.
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>>158130480
only seen the girl with the purple suit so far, was a futa movie. are there others?
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>>158130607
The only butthurt boy here is the one whining about premades. I can only imagine how horrendously you get fucking destroyed on a daily in-game. Don't worry, I'm sure it's just your teammates holding you back.
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>>158130523
holy shit this butthurt
I suppose you are one who screams "UGH TOXIC PLAYER!" once someone said "fuck" or anything that could trigger that small bubble of yours.
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>>158128593
reduce self damage works well?
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>>158130749
What would make you think that? I fucking hate lolbabbies and their constant whining about "toxicity".
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Anyone else having trouble connecting?
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>>158130718
>needing friends or teammates at all to win and carry a match

git gud
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>>158130718
>make a casual game that plays on a toaster, made to attract f2p faggots that play alone
>make it dominated by a small number of premades
"How to go out of business in 1 easy step"
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>>158130815
http://status.hirezstudios.com says its fucked
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>>158130815
yup

classic Hi-rez
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>>158130815
yes, clicking a match type does nothing
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this thread atm baka desu senpai
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>>158130815
yep
back to my chinese cartoons I guess
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>>158130873
>>158130859
I only soloQ actually.
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>>158130781
Kinda in combination with king's court basically negates all the damage
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>the "MLG" player shit talks you for the whole match because you dont help his sikrit imba tactic
>he is the worst at everything on stats
>he still shit talks you
Just fucking take it man, you suck, 54% win rate isnt anything special.
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>>158130282
he's not incorrect though
informal
used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true.
as much of a meme as it is, enough faggots like him misusing the word has changed part of its definition
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>>158130927
that's what no-skill premade shitters do
they shit up everything because they have no individual skill at all and need crutches like some fucking invalid retards
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>play fernando
>play it like a flanker
the fun part is when you go through unnoticed and suddenly a tank appears behind the damage and start burning everything down.
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>>158131082
What's the winrate for someone above average?
Mine is 61%
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>>158131209
51% is above average because the majority are muh forced fifty shitters
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>>158131209
51% is, by all logic, "above average"
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>>158131209
Ideally it should be 50% but the game can rarely find enough high ELO playerrs to create a full lobby so good players will probably have about 60-70% winrate.
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>>158131209
well those above 50% ar the ones who play with their friends. Nothing wrong with it, but communication and being aware of who you are fighting with is an advantage solofags dont have. So if you play with your friends, congratulations, just dont pretend you are skilled in the game.
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>>158131796
>well those above 50% ar the ones who play with their friends.
Keep trying to convince yourself of this. It's legitimately humorous watching delusion in action.
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>>158131917
>when anon posts in the wrong general
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>>158131209
>be 59% winrate
>nothing to do on saturday
>okay let's play paladins all day
>45% winrate now
i met some nightmarishly stupid people that day (yes, even the fabled aggression 3 kinessa)
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>>158131917
hey buddy i think you got the wrong thread
the loli club is two blocks down
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>>158131967
>That gif
DELETE THIS
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>>158132035
I'm not into that anon! I like the titty monsters.
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>>158132178
you should play blade and soul instead then
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if forced fifty isn't real, then how come those shitters who play aggression kinessa all day don't have a 20% winrate?
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>>158132281
The character designs are pretty ugly.
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>>158131879
You know part of my comment was exagration. Im sure there are players who could dominate a TS using group of dicksuckers all by themself. Noone can be that delusional, there is always a bigger fish.
But how high are the chances of the TS group of tryhards being in the lower half percentage?
Unless its a group of soccermums playing for fun while talking about how they all want to fuck with Chad instead of making comments regarding the state of the battlefield, that is
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>>158132345
Because they get matched with all the Kinessa, andy and victors who only buy aggression most of the time.
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>>158126686
If you win 5 more games in a row you have 90%
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>>158132345
Because they're games are low MMR on so they face worse players on average. it's also a team game and the enemy team has shitters too. The extremely bad ones will have lower winrates however if the game can't find enough extremely bad people to fill out a lobby. The result of this is pulling from high MMR pools of players to create the match.

Here's a shitter. Note the winrate.
http://paladins.guru/profile/pc/virginia/casual
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>>158062025
proof that kills don't matter at all.
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>>158132345
And how come I get to play against people from the world leaderboard (I had a match today with number fucking TWO Mal'Damba and his friends, of course they wrecked everyone) when I'm just a decently skilled regular shitter on a winning streak
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>>158131209
Hi
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>>158132724
explain this proofs
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>>158132724
This should be hammered into every newbie in the tutorial honestly
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>>158132767
and why is it that people think we can win when ruckus is the only front line
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>>158131796
OP here I mostly play Cassie and Ying solo tho.
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>>158132932
isn't that the question of the day
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>>158132960
see
>>158132536
hope that explains my somewhat iffy statement
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>>158132571
It's probably an old woman trying to have some fun.
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>>158132536
Groups will have higher winrates, you're right. But to say they're the only ones is clearly inaccurate.

The main problems with matchmaking in this game are the low population and the % of the population that are playing with shit computer/ping who will never be able to perform at a high level. There's also the straight fact that Western F2P games are famously filled with children who can't play worth a shit.

All of this results in the inability to pull enough players out of the high ELO pool to create matches. And even further than that is the inability to match stacks exclusively with stacks.
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>>158133093
I had that hunch as well hah. I played in a match with them and they just ran around as BK and occasionally drop a stun bomb and watched it explode. Only about 1000 damage in a near 20 minute game.
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>>158132908
look drogoz kill count

pro tip: he lost
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can someone explain this 50% meme to me?
What does ELO mean and why is it hard to get above 50% winrate? Also is it bad to be in the higher percentage when it comes to getting into matches etc?

Ultimativly, does a positive W/L record mean anything other than patting yourself on the back?Im fairly new to the game
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>>158133439
people like to win, so the game tries to give everyone an equal win and lose ration. That way people keep playing.

So it gives you a match against newbies for a stomp, a win. Then it gives you a match against players way above you for a lose.

The only time the 50% rule doesn't work is if you queue with others or are very good so it can't fuck you over.
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>>158133439
Do you want to become a pro player in the future? Or are you just playing this game for fun?
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>>158132724
I wish this screen showed obj time.

I won a match recently where the enemy team was just deathmatching the whole time. I died to a fairly competent Cassie a lot but she and the rest of her team never paid any attention to the cart whatsoever.
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>>158130672
http://vorineer.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=%2F&q=ying

Nothing else published as far as I know. But we have anonslike me that will try to do something soon as we can have time for it.
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>>158133439
>What does ELO mean and why is it hard to get above 50% winrate?
Elo is a type of player rating according to their skill. Paladins doesn't use Elo but a modified Trueskill rating but people call most matchmaking ratings Elo.
>why is it hard to get above 50% winrate?
Because The system is design so you plateau at a certain skill level and ideally only matched with people of your skill, meaning that as long as you're not at your skill rating your winrate will be above 50% and if you go beyond it it will start decreasing below it. But it is not a perfect system and the more match you play and the wider the population is the more accurate are the results, taking WoT as an example people dismiss MMR rating as inacurate until 1000 matches or so (at least a few years ago when I played it. There is a certain tolerance within the system meaning that most people should be around 49%-52% with outliers having super high or low winrate because of their exceptional skill level. If you want to read more.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/trueskill-ranking-system/
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>>158134009
I will l apply emergency medicine shot directly to Evie's throat!
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anyone watching the EU tournament?
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>>158133439
Ignore >>158133574

ELO is your hidden rating that the game gives you based on your play. You gain ELO on a win and lose ELO on a loss, and the amount you gain or lose depends on your personal performance and the the ELO of you and the rest of the lobby (meaning you gain more ELO if you defeat players of a higher ELO than you).

If the matchmaking works properly, then everyone has a 50% winrate because they'll always face people of equal skill to them.

Low population and the desire to keep match queue times reasonable means you'll often play in lobbies with people of high and lower MMR. Sometimes this results in one team have higher ELO on average. If you still manage to win, you gain more ELO than usual and if you lose, you lose less ELO.
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>>158133439
winrate is an indicator of how close you are to your "true" matchmaking rating

There is an urban legend about "forced 50". People believe that you are put with bad players every time you get a winning streak in order to force you to have a 50% winrate. These people are retarded because matchmaking systems don't care about winrate at all, it just looks at your rating.
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>>158132724
I think that has to do more with bombking and kenessia being useless cunts and making that match into a 3v5.
Like think about it, what could that drogoz honestly have done to reverse that situation? Pick a extra frontline/support at the start, putting all faith into bombking/kenessia? Get up onto makoa and fernando's face on the point?
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>>158132724
>drogoz was mad
I would be too
everyone was useless except ying
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>>158106084
Holy shit, I thought that dude stopped making porn entirely.
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>>158132571
>virginia
Hah, I had the bad luck of playing with him
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>>158134352
This. I can almost imagine how the game played out even without seeing objective time.

>kinessa stands miles away and hits 1/20 shots
>bomb king runs in and dies over and over again and spends half the game walking from spawn.

The stats on Makoa make me think he was doing his job.
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>>158134713
Link to the guys site or wherever he posts?
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>>158134915
Same
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>>158134915
Nothing wrong with bad players, it's the shitty matcher that should not be putting them with better players is the problem.
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>>158134915
>>158135056
Hiding stats option when?
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>>158135218
If you're so ashamed of your performance then maybe you should work to improve yourself.
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>>158135159
The only alternative is to make them wait 10 minutes for a match. Good luck maintaining a player base that way.
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are the champion guides on the paladins website any good?
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anyone else getting stuck in a black screen before the results screen
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Im absolutely fine with playing with obviously bad people, everyone had to start somewhere somehow.
Some of them are trying to learn, some of them are just bad, I dont mind.
What I hate is the shitters that barely do anything, are "toxic" (god I hate this word), shittalk you the whole match like they are the stars and carries and ruin it for everyone.

I'm not going to be a hypocrite, I'm salty as fuck when I'm losing or when my team is shit, but I keep it to myself, I yell at the screen, not at the actual people to be a dickwad because someone isnt as good as me.
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I really shouldn't play pvp games, whenever I'm playing well I always feel bad for the other players and sometimes let them get away at low health instead of finishing them off especially if its a pip

I don't like to bully people.
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>>158135412
How about I improve your face.
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>>158135602
not today, you stupid fucking frog
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>>158135425
The video ones? I'm watching the Fernando one now and they only really talk about the basics. It's accurate, but it's nothing novel.

If it's stuff you didn't know then by all means take the advice.
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>>158135602
>>158135695
Oh fuck! He teleported behind you. What the fuck are you going to do about that?!
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>>158135602
Thanks but I'm already perfect.
Pic related, it's me.
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Is viktor being collected?
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>moba shitters that call damage classes "carries"

jesus christ
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>>158135586
k
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>>158135586
Same here lad. The only thing that triggers me enough to speak up is when people don't buy items.
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>>158135867
Shut up nerd.
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>>158135891
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>>158135948
Mobas were a mistake.
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>>158136096
cyka blyat
*takes 4 minutes to connect to match*
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>>158135948
dps and flankers have a much greater chance to "carry" the game because they shit out damage really quickly so a better player can overpower a worse one very fast and then focus on the tank and support while their own are contesting, basically carrying the game.
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>>158136096
I'm seeing more and more russian shitters each day. It's worrying.
You can't communicate with them at all and they tend to buy aggression or not buy anything at all or they "forget" to buy items until much later.

>>158136209
Go back to your shit general, lolbabby.
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>>158136065
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>>158136272
>forget
At least that's semi-excusable. I was in a team with someone the other day who hadn't bought items the entire first round. When told to buy items, he responded with, "I'm waiting."
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>>158136272
I'm just describing what can happen in a game. No use denying reality. If the teams are evenly matched, nobody is going to carry anything and it will probably come down to the last round.
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Mistakes were made.
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>>158136464
You're still okay. The worst I've seen was a 0-19 BK
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>>158136464
now this a situation where nando was actually a good player and the rest of his team was utter shit
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>its another cassie wallhacks and pretends its the ult episode

Just remove that fucking character already
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>>158136464
you from /ps2g/ ?
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>>158136464
I legitimately feel bad for that Fernando.

>more objective time than the rest of his team combined.
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>>158136642
No, just remove the Ult. Replace it with an arrow attack that does a lot of damage and has 100% penetration.
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>>158136867
an arrow rain attack would be much better
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>>158106084
>suddenly futa
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>>158136867
Im just fucking tired of obviously wallhacking cassies that pretend they had ult on and thats why they managed to fucking look at people through the walls. Obv they didnt even had the ult on, bonus points if it was on first seconds of the match.

And I keep meeting the same obviously cheating cunts for last 2 weeks but I guess they dont cheat since hirez is retarded.
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>>158136996
Either one will work. I like the penetrating arrow since it's a skill shot and you need to position yourself well in order to make the most of it. The arrow rain seems too similar to Viktor's ult.

>>158137052
I've yet to meet anyone who's an obvious cheater. Do you have their names? I'll keep an eye out for them while playing.
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So how good is mal'damba?
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>>158137234
if he's on a good team = good
if he's on a shit team = shit
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>>158137147
the arrow rain would be one static shot that takes her about 2 seconds to shoot and it only lands on one area (so it is an area denial attack as well) that lasts for about 3 seconds and damages any enemy under it

both ults would make her pet bird completely pointless though
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>How do you want your W/L ratio family?
>Just.
>Say no more.

>>158136658
>/ps2g/
?

>>158136617
>>158136697
What's bad is that I had no idea we were collectively doing so badly during the match. I knew I was fucking up due to lag + being a Kinesshitter but wew boy.
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>>158137509
enjoying getting stomped?
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>>158137021
What are you, gay?
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>>158135000
Translate the name at the top right. It looks like hes started using Naughty Machinima, his dropbox should still exist somewhere too.
>mfw he closed his tumblr
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the artist signed as moogan but their tumblr is dead so I dunno where they post now
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>>158137695
get aids, faggot
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>>158137607
Oddly, it's more enjoyable getting stomped in Paladins than in Smite.

A stomp in Paladins has your team derping around and spamming VGS.

A stomp in Smite has people calling you retarded.
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I ate too much eucalyptus candy now I can't taste anything anymore what do?
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who is best girl and why is it cassie?
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>>158106084
I don't like futa but that thing still looks horrible anyway.
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>>158138002
delet this
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>>158138002
thicc is fine, but this is just shit art.
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>>158137848
I'm sorry you don't have good tastes in fetishes.
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>>158138002
>thumb
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>>158138002
fuck off already
cassi isnt fat
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>>158138217
I'm sure your parents are proud of your gayness. Especially your dad.
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>>158138372
We've all been over this anon, futa isn't gay.
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what does the border around your hero in the loading screen mean?
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>>158138002
Cassie is curvy! CURVY!
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>>158137468
>both ults would make her pet bird completely pointless though
Make it so it's not an arrow rain but a bird flying in a circle while defecating, problem solved (or make it throw razor feathers or something if you''re not 12)
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>>158139002
anything is better than her current ult
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Share your masterpaladins pages. favourite for favourite :^).
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>>158139206
you first, fgt
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>>158138002
>>158139567
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>>158139206
>People are actually scared to post stats for a game like this

wew lad

Here's mine http://masterpaladins.com/profile/38658317568

r8 h8 masterb8
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>>158139206
>favoriting
http://masterpaladins.com/profile/38657227341
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who else watching the event on Twitch?
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>>158139206
http://masterpaladins.com/profile/38657873784
Woohoo!
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>>158137509
I've played against that androxus. Has like 300+ games with him and is honestly a real good player. But he does pretty much nothing but premades. I actually looked up that match and you were against a 5 man premade while you were all randoms.

>5 man premade
>3 frontliners
>including a competitive tier androxus with 900 games under his belt
>not the definition of cancer killing casual queueing
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>>158141443
Yeah I don't get the matchmaking, are there this few people playing that they have to put the regular people like me up against leaderboard players? I'd rather wait 5 minutes for a match than get fucking stomped with 0% chance of winning. No, it doesn't make me want to "play better", I can't, I have a job, I play for fun in the evening, that is why I fucking queued for CASUAL, because I don't want to fight COMPETITIVE tier players
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>>158141720
The population is small yes.
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>>158141970
steamcharts tells me we're in the 40-50k range, and I seriously doubt more than 1% of that are leaderboard people
actually, it should be 100x18 for the 18 champs, which is like, what, a little below 0.5% of the overall "population"
i don't understand why matchmaking thinks it's a good idea to pair a completely average player (me) with someone from that 0.5%
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How can you play this shit instead of OW? OW is not even expensive.
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>>158142639
>OW is not even expensive

money I dont have desu
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>>158132536
>tfw you only play with your teamspeak buds
>memes and victories all day because most of us are competent fps players
Feels good man
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>>158142639
fuck off to your general, you fuckhead
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man the standard gold rate is shit if double gold weekend is not even doing much
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>>158142639
I agree but In my case I got so burnt out S1 I don't want to look at the game anymore but this provides a somewhat stress free alternative.

I put all my effort into OW so in this game im a little more laid back even after 5 losses or more in a row. But it sucks that you cant swap champs in the middle of the match it makes playing some characters too stressful like most tanks imo.
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>>158142838
Its funny because the shills go to /v/ and and say its not that bad when people who gave this game a shot like I did complained.

To deck 1 of each character with some decent cards is like 5-6k and you need to master/gear a lot of champions for ranked.
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>>158141720
You had 3 people on your team who were of comparable ELO to the other team. You were one of the two low elo players who was pulled to complete the match. BigMomma is a much high elo player but there's hardly anyone in this game that 1900+ ELO so they're always forced into lower ELO lobbies. I'm ~1950 ELO and almost all my matches are 1600-1700 average with a few around 1500.

The only solution to this problem is to get more people playing to fill out the higher ELO.
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>>158142639
I own Overwatch as well, but I disagree with the philosophy behind the game design. Paladins is very similar on the surface but it does a lot of things right that Overwatch does wrong in my opinion.
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>>158143235
Philosophy behind the balancing* rather.

A good example is the Pharah change that's in the PTR right now.
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>much higher elo 3 man premade shits on other team
>mine's a full solo team with lower elo rating for all
>lose

big surprise there

great matchmaking
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>>158140109
She is so pretty.
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>>158143820
You win some, you lose some, it doesn't matter either way. Chill.
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>>158142639
Anything that isn't free or physical is expensive.
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>>158134009
What do you use for stuff like this anon? SFM?
I want to try my hand as well
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>>158141227
I am now that you mentioned it.
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>>158143102
>all this elo talk
>doesnt see the

PARTY1
PARTY1
PARTY1
PARTY1
PARTY1

SOLO
SOLO
SOLO
SOLO
SOLO


While you do have a point even if the elo was more fair and the average wasn't the end all you still have the issue of premades. Ranking in these types of games are always a mess.
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>>158144115
I bet the two lower level ones in that party are also alt accounts, every high ranking player has at least one smurf.
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Is there anyone you should take Deft Hands for?
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>>158073146
>playing games with people from 4chan
>not knowing everyone on these boards is pure shit at games

lol
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>>158144115
It's the same situation though. Not that many people play the game and even less play in a party. You can't just force everyone who parties to sit and wait in hour long queues for other parties. The queue is already longer for high elo players as it is.
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>>158144335
Buck.
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>>158144335
buck is good with it
maldamba is memes with deft hands
andy can make use of it, I think skye can too
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>>158130306
Link when
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>>158144505
many of the higher elo players wouldn't even have such a high rating if they didn't play in parties so often just to boost their stats and rating so it's a "problem" they created
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>>158143961
Thing is people don't mind losing so much, but when they can see a direct reason they lost they feel cheated.

Once, twice, three times is annoying. When it's regular and when they dominate you due to their voice chat etc it starts to seem pointless.

These games are mindless, its the same maps and game modes over and over and over again. At a point you gotta ask why you're bothering if it's slanted against you too.
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>>158144694
That's incorrect. If you look at all the challenger teams, most of them are sitting in average or moderately above average ELO rating.
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>>158139206
http://masterpaladins.com/profile/38656489887
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>>158144694
Also you sound delusional if you really think people should be penalized for playing a team game with a team.
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>>158144505
No it's not, it's still around 1-3 minutes because the game throws match making out the window if it goes pats 2 minutes anyway. As the other anon said, they got that rating from being in premades also.
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>al these people playing casual bragging about skill
>posting screenshots from casual like it fucking matters at all


This thread is filled with the same brain dead morons this game is filled with it seems.
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>>158144846
>51% win loss in nothing but casual
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>>158145121
>thread about game is filled with the same people that play game
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>>158144831
I really don't mind losses normally when it's just a typical match. But when it's multiple stomps in a row and/or when it's clearly because 1-2 or more people did not do what their picked class is for or just suck so much ass it's not fun at all.

>>158144973
Most players still won't be playing regularly in a team though. It's simply not a option for everyone even if they wanted to have a team. This is why solo only queue needs to exist in these kind of games as well.
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>>158144973
Playing in a team vs all solo players is as bad as pc players using kb and mouse playing vs ps4 players using a controller.

Is that fair too?
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>>158145052
who feels like waiting 5 minutes for a casual game? Why penalize good players?
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>>158145308
I can't carry as support
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>>158145468
>why penalize tryhards who inflate their stats with other tryhards in a team
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>>158119185
the issue with objective time giving so many credits is that a Ying who does her job (staying on the fringes of fights, healing and stopping flank attempts) and a Ruckus that does his job (sitting on the point and holding LMB) will have a HUGE disparity in credits. Ying can't sit on the point or she may be punished. Meanwhile, Ruckus will get like 25-50% more money, even if they contribute the same amount to the game.

Another issue is that tanks just don't need as much money as DPSs do. Tanks only really need veteran I, and everything else is luxury.
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>>158145742
Just delete all stat tracking and there is no problem to begin with

That would have saved planetside 2 at least
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>>158145397
One is a clear workaround of intended purposes, another is just playing the game how it's meant to be played. Not even comparable.

>>158145742
>all good players are stack players
>all good players are tryhards
The fact that you use the word tryhard is pretty pathetic when we're talking about a competitive game that you're whining about losing in.

Either way it's stupid to penalize good players. What's the point of improving at the game if all that awaits you is endless queues? Literally everyone would just smurf anyway and people would complain about that.

>>158145365
It still wouldn't fix the fact that teamed players will have to wait ages in queues. Separating queues only works in games like LoL where there's a massive player base to pull from.
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>>158145468
Not to burst your bubble but when the vast majority are not great and you fuck them over to keep the minority happy you're gonna have a bad time making money from your game.

See tribes.
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>>158145891
honestly stat tracking shouldn't exist outside of competitive where it actually has meaning and purpose
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>>158145891
I'd say this is good too but people would just still complain even if they could directly point to something. This is basically what brought about matchmaking in the first place as opposed to the old system of just having servers.
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>>158146070
Easy solution, keep them separate in both cases right?
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Holy shit this Makoa player carried my team so hard! How do Makoas do it? He's fun but I'm just not good with him. TEACH ME!
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>>158142838
I got like 15k golf from playing very casually just today, that was noticeable
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Bump Aggression damage boost by 5% so it's not completely useless

Y/N?
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>>158139206
http://masterpaladins.com/profile/38655328512
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>>158146201
Both would disincentive the activity but it's completely against the philosophy behind team games to disincentive playing in a team with your friends.
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>>158146070
it's still a bad idea to not have a solo queue because people have complained about it and will continue complain about the bad matchmaking here and everywhere outside of this shitty general

nobody likes being stomped by some 5 man high rank premade that knows the game inside out and communicate with each other, not in fucking casual mode of all things - this DOES NOT appeal, believe it or not, to the main casual audience
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>>158146276
Hook cool down IV
Heal from shell spin IV
Shield duration II
Shield CD from damage taken I
Healing in shield I
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>>158146462
It would also disincentive players introducing the game to their friends if they knew they'd have to sit around and wait 20 minutes to find a game with them.

People complain about matchmaking in literally every single game with matchmaking. It's nothing new.
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>>158146647
but rarely it's as bad as it is in low rez games
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>>158146346
Or just remove it, I mean every other row only has 4 items in it
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>>158146380
both are unfair, both will kill a f2p game
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>frog isle
>nearly mirror teams (drogoz, ying, fernando, evie)
>every midfight is brutal as fuck
>every game is a close win
>i got enough credits to max out 3 upgrades
>last round 3/3
>both teams are stressed as fuck
>midfights are a constant clusterfuck filled with lava explosions, icy storms, and illusions
>each side is 99% overtime
>we win last second

holy fuckkk this game is so much fun when its against teams with the same skill level
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>>158146346
they say they want items to counter team comps
aggression doesn't counter shit, just remove it
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I wish mal damba's heal was easier to land. I can shoot fine but when you miss your heal it really sucks. They should make it fire as a beam sort of like ying's basic attack but with less ticks. That way you can hit several team members at the same time. They could raise the cooldown to balance it out or something.
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>>158146909
This desu

Even if aggression had 1% damage bonus it would still be a shitter magnet
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>>158146572
Thanks I'll give that a try.
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>>158146815
I've never played any other HiRez game, but they all have minuscule fractions of the population of the games that they imitate, so they can't expect to have to same matchmaking system.

This is unrelated, but I'm personally fine with have an alternative to Overwatch that doesn't appeal to the casual audience, since Overwatch already does that. Overwatch being as casual as it is is why I quit in the first place.
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>>158106084
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>>158146647
pissing on the majority to please the minority

again this is identical to pc vs console players, that would never be tolerated yet this is.
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>>158146973
Not everything in life is fair, we have yet to see if this would kill it. Team Fortress still has a healthy population despite the fact that an experience player can go into a server and pubstomp everyone.

It's also telling that the introduction of matchmaking was universally criticized.
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>>158147179
Quit then.
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>>158146647
you like it because you get easy wins, not because you play with friends. Most people who play with "friends" just play with people they add that are good during matches, and you know it.
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>>158146984
the whole point of aggression is retarded
i think it, along with haven and blast shields, should just be removed completely
there isnt supposed to be a reason to reduce damage unless youre bad
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>>158140824
Gratz anon. Good winrate.

>>158143854
Yes.

>>158144002
XNAlara for the moment.
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>>158147571
>you like it because you get easy wins
I play soloQ 95% of the time, the exception being when I play with my one friend and we don't even use TS.

>Most people who play with "friends" just play with people they add that are good during matches, and you know it.
If that were true, what's stopping you or anyone else from doing the same? And why should they be penalized for it?
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>>158147406
>complain playerbase doesn't have enough people for premades vs premades
>want to make most people quit
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>see a gold bomb king while loading into Fish Markets
>buy pic related, upgrade it to max
>jolt poppy bomb shitter btfo
>he can't stun me for more than .1 sec
>i dont even bounce off the cap
>pip turns me into a chicken for barely a second
>solo take the point
feels good to be muh koa
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>>158147941
I'm not the one complaining about it. I personally could care less. I play CSGO mainly and pre-mades vs soloqueue is common and nobody really complains about it.
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>>158147406
If more people quit, it's only gonna get worse
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>>158147406
that kind of attitude isn't helping or bringing in more people, anon, it's just extending the queue times since less and less will play
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>kinessa shitters
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for the collection
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>>158147308
that goes both ways, pro players should understand that
also this isn't tf2, same as rift isn't wow and the succes of one isn't comparable to success of the other.
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>>158147965
Fuck yeah, any time I see a Pip or BK I go for Resilience and laugh in their retarded face when they try to slow or stun or poppy or mojo me
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>>158148083
>could care less

holy shit what a memeing dumb fuck

>>158148212
>basic ying
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>>158148167
>>158148104
There's literally no solutions that's going to benefit the longterm survival of the game. The only reason people are complaining is because they've become so used to competitive matchmaking in games with gigantic playerbases when that's a fairly new introduction to competitive gaming. In games like this it's just not possible and it's unreasonable to expect it.
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>>158148308
I always say 'could' because it triggers people like you.
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>>158148226
The funniest thing in that picture is Viktor buying Resilience
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>>158148226
i buy aggression on skye because she has built in cauterize
and sometimes on evie
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>>158148083
Why should people play this game over CSgo, overwatch and tf2 if it's the same shit?
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>>158148623
Because it's a different game? Do you think people pick their games based on matchmaking nuances?
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>>158148462
>merely pretending

what an ebin ruse meister
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>>158139206
h-hi
http://masterpaladins.com/profile/38658044200
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>mfw 8:1 kda

it was a fucking BLAST
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>tfw ladder anxiety

it's sc2 all over again
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>learn quake dragon after previously sucking shit with him at like 40% winrate
>elo going up and up
>cannot stop picking him either because he fits into any lineup and is so fun
>**still too scared to jump into competitive because minimum ping of 100**
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>>158149285
Where are you playing from?

Also new thread when
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>>158149353
canada
i just have a fucking shitty isp that gives me an incredibly volatile ping. during the wee hours I can usually eek out 50ms.
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>some retard has mastery 1 mal damba and expects anyone to make serious picks
>already whining before I can mute everyone
>team's fucking shit as expected
>stop playing more or less and unmute
>so much fucking whining, crying and blaming everyone else

it's hilarious and sad at the same time
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FINE ILL DO IT

>>158150148
>>158150148
>>158150148
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>>158149285
>pick drogoz
>every time there is an androxus or kinessa or cassie or viktor on the enemy team that drops anything they are doing and focuses just me
>move in for the kill
>someone else always finishes me off
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>start match
>game logs you out
spooky
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>>158150246
Drogoz's hitbox is fucking massive. His model is already pretty huge for a flying character that is usually out of cover when he's doing his business. Just compare him to Pharah.
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