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Pantokrator edition.

Previous thread >>157785427

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>Never create shitty threads with political images

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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First for bizarre monogamy
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It's gonna be an interesting late-game.
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Bump the thread, fags.
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>>158007291

C'tis is in a horrible position map position wise.

Between Lemuria and R'lyeh I can see this game being a pain in the ass.
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>>158009020
C'tis has N9B9, Riley has N9, Rus has a shitton of blood, Lemuria has ghosts, TC has who the fuck knows what, Mari has HONOR.
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>>158007291
>>158009020
Question mark area is all C'tis apart from a few of the western provinces, which is TC. Also, he has Tartarians and a million N9B9 sneks.

I'd still say R'lyeh has the edge here due to having basically infinite Astral Pearls, but C'tis is a good #2 for most likely winner.
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>>158009020

LA C'tis is actually pretty good at fucking up Lemuria. Tomb Wyrms are MR 16 before Antimagic, so a single line of N9 can hold off Ghosts until they autorout, and evocation will prioritize HP density, which, since freespawn ghosts mostly have standard human or less and the commanders all have 25+, means it's actually fairly reliable for commander swatting.
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>>158007291
Here, I fixed it for you.
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Just a reminder, it looks like we're entering the VGL7(http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_7) and I'm currently collecting suggestions for new players to put on the roster(deciding which players get the axe comes later). I've already got six, namely Mage Support, Diplomonster, In That Case I'll Be Going AI Too, t. Malakal, Illuminati and Bogus the Troll. The current roster can be found at http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//domg/ and if you have any suggestions for new players(or want an ex-player to make a reappearance) please leave me a (you). It doesn't matter if it's now or 500 posts later, I'll be sure to write it down.

Also, if you want to help out in other ways, such as helping with player models or testing tactics, I'd really appreciate it. Leave a (you) or PM me on the VGL Discord server or something.
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>>158009436
Who even uses ghosts at turn 100, what the fuck, m8.

>>158009517
Thanks.
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>>158009787
It's not like the ghosts stop spawning or anything.
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>>158009840
You just put them on your thrones.

I have 5k on each right now.
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>>158009787

Fair enough. Not in the game, didn't know how far in you were.
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>>158010064
Tell me.
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>>158007291
>>158009517
Avenge me faggots. My Tower Guards deserved better than Bane Venom carrying Shadow Servants.
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I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.
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Don't 404 on me you faggots.
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The Architect is curious to hear about any interesting developments in current /domg/ games? He'll never respond, but he listens better than any.
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Sorry about staling in all my games, Civ6 is pretty good. I should be back in a couple days, thank you for your understanding.
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>>158012860

Same
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>>158007291
If you squiggled my top left line past the provinces with the little stone monument you'll have my border with china (everythign left of that is his). If you squiggle my Top right land directly across bogarus you'll have my starting position.
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>>158013128
also I would say everyone is waiting for the invitable attack from somebody so they can start the chain reaction; no one seems to want to make the first move yet
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t-thanks R-Rlyeh
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>>158013241
The problem with making the first move is that unless you have a solid alliance going, you're inevitably going to get backstabbed.
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>>158013610
Pretty sure everyone has alliances with everyone else.
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>>158013610
>tfw UW before anyone else can go under the sea
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>>158013342
>breaking the slave's legs right before selling it

Typical squid scum tactics.
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>>158013610
Not in my games, in my games every time someone attacks someone else he's considered a super strong force and they ignore him. Instead they gang on the one being attacked to get some share of the spoils.
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Helheim if your convinced your dead don't waste our time and sent yourself AI then send your turn, otherwise DO YOUR TURN
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post treasuries
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Looking to buy earth gems. Anyone interested?
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>>158015143
Don't send dorfs earth gems, please. They have OP summons.
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>>158015190
>They have OP summons.
I do?

Which one is it?
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>>158015273
Which dorfs are you, MA or LA? Use Strike the Earth spell.
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>>158015302
I'm warhammer dwarves, the only earth summon I get is a mage, and it requires one of my cap-only commanders with a lucky random to sacrifice his life.
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>>158014969
>doesn't even organize his artfacts with other artifacts
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>>158015464
>btfo poorfags
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>>158015403
And here's the summon, in case you're not familiar with my nation. Costs 50 earth gems and a poor runemaster's life.

It casts PotS when it enters battle, other than that everything about it is pretty obvious.
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>>158016412
What can it even cast? Soul slay spam? And no crafting is shit.
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>>158016728

Do dwarves have readily available S1s?

Because those would make nasty communion masters.
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>>158016728
Dwarves have a few national combat spells which are quite hard to cast without using one of those, so those are probably the best use.

There's a small AoE Curse of Stones that can't be resisted, a triple fireball, a triple thunderstrike, and a small AoE earth meld + rust. There's also a national darkness that curses enemy troops as well.

I might also end up using it to cast some big buff spells, since most of my other mages get -1 to all paths in combat.
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>>158007106

> centaur AND a dryad
> only two hand slots
> one head slot
> one chest slot
> only two misc slots
> no feet slot
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>>158017568
Innate magic caster tho.
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>>158017568

How the fuck do Dryads wear shoes anyway? They have hooves.
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Mathosia and Robble, get in chat. Not at the same time or anything, I want to talk to each of you about totally separate things without double posting.
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Game: VanillaCataclysm
Turn number 6
Next turn due: 01:27 GMT on Saturday October 22nd

Barony of Black 2h file received
Bishopric of Brown 2h file received
Margraviate of Green 2h file received
Emirate of Grey 2h file received
>Principality of Pink Waiting for 2h file
Beydom of Purple 2h file received
Empire of Red 2h file received
Khanate of White 2h file received
Autocracy of Aquamarine 2h file received
Bureucracy of Beige 2h file received
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>>157999896
Is Sabagebu the official Dominions anime?
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>>158018462
Time for a gentle reminder.
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>>158018632

Idle thought: What happens if two nations achieve the number of thone points required for victory on the same turn? Unlikely to ever come up, since usually it's 50% +1, but it's a thing which can happen.
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>>158018946
Throne claiming happens in a random order like rituals, so whoever gets a better RNG.
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>>158019054
But victory isn't checked until much later in the turn than throne claiming. You can claim enough thrones to win in one turn but if you lose those provinces you don't win the game.
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Whats the spell for sending hurricanes again?
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>>158020001
Hurricane. Duh.
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>>158020080
Where is it at?
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but the world refused to be stopped
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>>158020104
Do you know what dom inspector is, motherfucker?
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>>158020123
Let me guess, niefel ran a skellyspam turbocommunion?
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>>158020306
Not unless you can skellyspam at enchantment 1.
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>>158020306
>>158020467
no niefel had some of his skittles thugged out and Ur troops are still terrible at fighting
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What does Communion even do? Is it just to spread fatigue?
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>>158020603
Read the manual.
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>>158020573
And now that the element of surprise is gone if anyone would like me to forge stuff for them hit me up. I can do water, blood, death nature and a little astral.
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>>158020717
>on phone
>search function doesn't seem to work on the pdf
Spoonfeed me, please.
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>>158020942
Fuck off.
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>>158020603
Spreads fatigue, lets you cast stronger spells.
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>>158020942
Do you play dom4 on the phone?

When you go to your PC to do your turn, remember to check it out.
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>>158021179
Thanks.
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>>158021179
>>158020603
Also spreads self-buffs to slaves.
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If you have enough F mages to do it, should you convert your entire F treasury to lightless lanterns upon hitting Cons 6, or just forge several per turn?
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>>158023004

If you've hammers as well, it's generally to use them, but it depends on what you're using F gems for.
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>>158023004
If you have forging bonus available (dwarf hammers, sites, mages with forge bonus), there's an argument for it, otherwise you'll take a larger hit turn 1 but will forever have eclipsed the research of gradual construction by turn 2
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>>158023209
>>158023242
I have enough stuff to forge to occupy my hammers, so I'm not worried about them sitting around being wasted regardless of whether I do all at once or not
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>>158023004
>>158023289
I wouldn't convert my entire treasury, fire gems are handy for some things (mainly fire elementals)

Other than that, if you're not planning to use hammers for them there's no reason to wait.
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>>158020123
>Ur lost that many units
>backstabbing intensifies
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>>158020795
I'm sending you your stuff back, you can still make a comeback
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>>158020795
got a steam account?
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>>158025127
I told him. I said he couldn't handle my giants like china could. But he wouldn't listen, he just had to attack me.
>>158025224
Sweet
>>158025275
get into the chat.
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>>158025367
and then he never showed up
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Post music that makes you think of a specific Dom4 nation.

I'll start with Bogarus - the album.

https://youtu.be/xgfa5UlZAL8
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>>158027157
I'm not sure on what specific nation but just about any good classical or medieval music makes me think of Dominions.

Which reminds me, Civ6 main theme is fucking amazing, too bad it's attached to such a shit game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQYN2P3E06s&feature=youtu.be
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>>158027157
Any seafaring nation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDXNSWJLuo

Mictlan or any Tribless/Quadbless nations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q5Qowx99Zs

General Dominions songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MH9KY71SCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7G8m8cPtE

I'm refraining from posting weeb songs for Yomi.
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>>158028183
>no yomi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU
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>>158027341
>attached to such a shit game

>niche game fans think they're hard because they shit on popular franchises

I for one am impressed by your girth and manliness.
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>>158027341
Is it actually bad or are people still complaining about MUH ARTSTYLE?
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>staling on turn 6

you're a real piece of shit pink
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>>158027157
Rienzi finale in which Rome burns reminds me of Ermor (obviously, it doesn't depict the fall of Roman Empire but it makes me think of destruction of Rome and the mood in Eldergate as augurs see Sceleria marching in and let Death loose). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCDrwdWSv1Y

The ending of the original performance is very fitting (although they were changed to something more upbeat in later performances):
> "May the town be accursed and destroyed! Disintegrate and wither, Rome! Your degenerate people wish it so."
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The fuck is wrong with llamaserver? It just ate 3 of my turns.
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>Game: TheBiggestFattestMeme
>Turn number 47
>Next turn due: 17:46 GMT on Friday October 21st

>Abysia 2h file received
>>>>>>>>>Arcoscephale Waiting for 2h file
>Caelum 2h file received
>Helheim 2h file received
>Kailasa 2h file received
>>>>>>>>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
>Pelagia 2h file received
>Sauromatia 2h file received
>>>>>>>>Ulm Waiting for 2h file
>Ur 2h file received

>Last updated at 17:28 GMT on Friday October 21st
>Current time: 17:28 GMT

Playing Civ VI are we? Do your fugging turns!
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Llama is dead.
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>>158030535
No.
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>>158029618
It's not bad at all. I will say that I still think it's a step backwards visually, but otherwise the game is good.
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>>158031293
This game is going to be a goldmine for reaction images
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>>158030535
>CivVI

No Dominions player would play that watered down shit, if anything they'd play 4.

R-right?
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>>158031512
>it's a step backwards visually
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>>158031785
If you're going to play a version from before they improved the gameplay you might as well play 3 and get a better experience out of it.
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>>158031938
THINN
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>>158030535
I've sent my turn, but llama's not responding.
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>>158031785
You're allowed to play more than kind of strategy game, anon
Dom 5 when?
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>>158031785
But anon, it's fun.
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>>158032032
i hope dom5 follows in civ's wake and gives us a bunch of goofy pretender portraits and also fucks everything up
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>>158032019
That sucks
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is civ6 robust enough to mod CoE into it
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>>158032704
They're very different games. You could add CoE stuff into it, but you can't make it CoE.
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>>158007291
Mari is stronk. Nevar forget.
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Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Pythium Waiting for 2h file
Ulm 2h file received
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>>158031994

But 4 has Fall From Heaven II
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>>158034731
Hey now, it takes a lot of scripting to betray all of my neighbors at the same time.
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>>158034731
Llama is down.
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>>158034868
My bad.
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Which nation should I play if I want to launch 90kg projectiles over 300m?
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>>158031938
From a technical standpoint it's better but the artstyle is atrocious making the overall result much worse.

Some leaders look good (e.g. >>158031293), but the majority do not.
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>>158035863
Agartha B10A10
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Remember to join /domg/'s next great game, CanIntoHost.

Steam:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/340412122407955023/

Llama:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CanIntoHost

Several veteran players have expressed interest in joining. So, I thought it might be to have them as standby subs for any player that starts staling. Afterall, if a player is in a position so bad that they are staling, it would be a fun and challenging position for an expert player to try to rescue.
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>>158035863
MA T'ien Ch'i, make geomancer communions.
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>>158035980
im going to join with pangaea with an innovative strategy is that ok
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>>158035980

Signed up as Ermor m8
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>>158035980
im going to join with agartha with an innovative strategy is that ok
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>>158035980
>(Intermediate Game)
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>>158035980
im going to join with ulm with an innovative strategy is that ok
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>>158036105
>>158036231
>>158036403
None of those nations have innovative strategies, so that's not ok.
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>>158036475
I'd like to join as nicknight with an innovative strategy, is that ok?
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>>158036342
Jesus christ I thought one of those cute doggos was dead or injured at first.
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>>158034868
It doesn't take turn files, but it does resolve turns. Just got a nice stale in BiggestFattestMeme.
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>>158036664
fuck.
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>>158036403
Is it quadbless black priests?
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>>158035980
Let the vets join. The "intermediate" players will surely just team up against them.
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ded llama ded thred
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>>158035980
I can't get to Steam atm, but I noticed that Ermor wasn't chosen. Can you sign me up for them?
- Sy
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>>158036768
>>158036664
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TheBiggestFattestMeme

It says it's waiting but did anyone get turns? I can't find mine.
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>>158035980
No joining any games in the next week.
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>>158039465
I got the new turn
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Malakal, extend the turn timer, you fuck. Llama is dead.
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>game is on 48 hour timer
>people always send turns in the last hours
>if that happens when I'm going to sleep that leaves around ~60 hours between turn
>have to rename commanders to notes like "Site Search" or "TempleAt54" just to remember what the fuck I was trying to do 3 days ago

Would it kill you fucks to do your turns faster? And would it kill illwinter to add a note system? They won't even let you send messages exclusively to yourself.
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MODNATION
GAME
WHEN

Please
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>>158041127
Knowing Illfraud, making a new note would require you to delete all previous notes, then solve captcha, then spend 1 gem for each note.
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Ekwipt, VanillaCat, InThatCaseIllBeGoingAIToo, and Ginnungagap have all been extended 12 hours just in case.
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>>158041183
One started just w while ago.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ScrubWarriors
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>>158041183
When I finish my mod I'll host a game with it.
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>>158041183
Host one nerd, I'll join in.
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>>158040407

Llama is fixed, send your turn.
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>Niklatu is the most famous Lizard Lord in C'tis. His rainbow armor and comely appearance are enough to make female lizards lay eggs on the spot.

Illwinter confirmed for scalies?
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Glitch, why?
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Could someone tell me where I can find a nice big easy to read list of mods now that desura is kill?
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>>158047550
>bullying moggers
WHO DARES
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>>158048705
Oops wrong general.
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>>158048705
>People being this bad at civ
>in /domg/
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Is it just me or is there not a huge amount of sites in this cataclysm game?
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>>158047550
What happened?
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If I boost my pretenders paths via wish or boosters, will their bless be affected?
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>>158050579
no. If your pretender loses paths, they also don't lose the bless.
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>>158050579
OF COURSE NOT
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>>158050817
>>158050826
cпacибo
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>>158047550
I warned you about them glitches
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>>158047550
I'd like to know what you're accusing me of.
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oh god i'm having fun with this game. Am I autistic now?
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Dedest thred.
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>>158053626
You became autistic the second you found out about this game.
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>>158053626
you always were autistic you just didn't know
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>>158036926
>t. Malakal

>>158039565
Is this a personal problem? 4chan isn't the place to discuss personal problems. Or is it a Llama problem?

If you want to join the game, there are only 5 slots left! If you think you might not be allowed to join, it won't hurt to ask; nothing has stopped the players who know they shouldn't from asking.
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sum1's biting sarcasm hurts my feelings. Who should I turn to for help?
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>>158055247
malakal
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>>158055247
Cirno
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>>158055292
Mother fucking english people get so easily offended.
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>>158055946
better then aussies
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>>158051538
Get in Steam chat and lets discuss that.
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This turn the thing which terrified me the most is the pic.
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>>158056681
forgot it
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>>158056903
Mage support, you cavenigger.

That means you need to have something for the mages to be supporting.
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>>158056903
>>158056681
>>158056986
What else can you expect from t.Pan?
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>>158056903
earth readers can't cast Earth Elementals if they get attacked on 1st turn dingus
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>>158051093
Too bad your ilk got put down by the good ole dorfs.
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Sceleria, which provinces DO you consider to be north of (55).
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>>158056986
>>158057083
>>158057119
Do you lads not recall Nick's agartha front lining with those guys casting Iron Skin?

Also, I thought he went AI so...
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So, just so everyone knows another intelligence report is incoming. I'm just waiting on confirmation of what my client actually wants visible in the report before posting it, so stay tuned!
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>>158058753

Oh boy, I can't wait for another episode of Sauromantia makes shit up.

I hope the Greeks get you.
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>>158058957
I don't need to make shit up. Mainly since if I did, i'd probably stop getting paid for intelligence reports quite as much in case i'm cheating the clients.
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I need an extension in AT and realm of scrubs. Internet died from storm
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Game: VanillaCataclysm
Turn number 7
Next turn due: 21:20 GMT on Saturday October 22nd

Barony of Black 2h file received
Bishopric of Brown 2h file received
Margraviate of Green 2h file received
Emirate of Grey 2h file received
Principality of Pink 2h file received
>Beydom of Purple Waiting for 2h file
Empire of Red 2h file received
Khanate of White 2h file received
Autocracy of Aquamarine 2h file received
>Bureucracy of Beige Waiting for 2h file
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>>158059037
I haven't seen any graphs in quite some time, so yeah, making shit up sounds about right.
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>>158059468
At least it's new lads this time. That's a good sign, I'd say
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>>158059303
Uh, by how long?
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>>158059515
no its purple p much every time
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Ah shit, they lose the attack commander script
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>>158059698
You're a charmer, you know that?
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>>158059493
I haven't been paid for graphs and i'm not giving free stuff when i'm the one who paid the pearls for the global. If someone wants to pay me to post the most recent graphs, i'll happily post 'em.
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>>158059750
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>>158059774

Someone fate of oedipus this guy already
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>>158059774
>Letting snowballers continue snowballing

I'm assuming you're one of them?
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>>158060467
jesus i wish. I'm in a knife fight with Vanheim that involves less knives and more me losing to like five air elementals.
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>>158059698
That got patched like a year ago.

It used to be exploitable as fuck, because you could copypaste the attack commander script onto other units.
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>>158060835
Yet you clearly have something to hide. Sorry if I don't believe you. Also, I haven't seen a single fight with Vanheim in 10 or so turns, so somehow I doubt you're still fighting.
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>>158062206
Yes, I have my army of teleporting nature 9 tartarians casting soul vortex to hide, you have seen through my mighty ruse.
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>>158059640
12 hrs
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oh wow look who it is

Beydom of Purple Waiting for 2h file
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What are you doing, Arco?
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>>158065580

>Tarrasque on a flying carpet
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>>158065580
>dragon that sits on a magic carpet that just vomits and farts all over the whole battlefield
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>>158065580
>crab claw
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>>158065580
I'd swap out the regen ring for either a specific resistance or an MR item, but flying carpet is needed to get the tarrasque around.
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>>158069569
what about a reinvig item? That sounds pretty important desu.
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>>158069639
Encumbrance 2 isn't that bad, especially considering that it's not casting any spells.
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>>158062206
Hinnom on damage control
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>>158028183
>No Schors
>Not spamming light Calvary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyeaXgiW10I
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Hello everyone! It seems Hinnom is rather popular because this is the second request for their information to be published. That said, there have been some rather important changes since then, but i've been specifically asked to post Hinnom's borders.

Minor note that is probably relevant, Hinnom is top of the province graph.

Okay, anyway, Hinnom. Northermost province is Kerch (349) and southmost is Gezen (78). He appears to have entirely eaten Abysia since my last report on him, although Abysia's capital is not actually under siege by him. (It IS under siege, just not by Hinnom.) Westernmost is Pythia (236) and Easternmost is Swamps of Kandlah (151). His holdings seem to be a solid blob, no weird stragglers other than, for reasons I do not understand, a single Hinnom province at Inaba (242) way in the middle of fucking nowhere, along with one at Pallavas (116) and Moryas (76), both of which border the Lankan capital but without being connected to any other Hinnom provinces. Teleporting SCs?

He doesn't appear to own any Caves or Heavens.

As a minor note, taking Abysia's lands means he now has the Throne of Abundance at Khayappa (127). I am pretty jealous of that fucking thing.
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>>158058484
If you don't respond I'll assume we're at war.
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>>158065580
>a dragon with a flying carpet.
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>>158075149
Post a map.
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>>158006972
New player whos never won a game against AI.

I want to play multiplayer

Whats the best way to lie about how good I am so I can get into pro games.
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>>158075368
You don't have to; most games are open.
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>>158074302
>Sum1won with 4 capitals, with free access to all the mesoamerican lands now that Bery has been occupied.
Unless R'lyeh makes significant grounds in the UW fast, the game is effectively over. Hilarious that people think the nation with 2 caps is more threatening than the nation with 4.
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>>158075264
I'd rather not. I'll admit this boils down to sheer laziness since I don't want to give away any information on other nations and that'd mean editing it to try to remove any trace of them. Instead I just give points you can use to work out the size and shape of his holdings.
If I get paid for specifically a map to be posted, I guess I will, but i'm happy just avoiding having to do any kind of, you know, effort.
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After some player feedback, I've decided to change the map, and also provided a download link to BetterArena in the steam page (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/340412122407955023/)

Would someone be a champ and upload Riverlands?
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>>158075637
Rlyeh could have stayed peaceful with me and built up a land presence but now it's a never ending UW war
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>>158075637
>Diplomonsters think that if they keep posting that they're not toppest land nation in spite of the graphs having been posted, people will eventually help them win.
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>>158075368
I think this is one of those games where you just have to jump in and see what happens.
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>changing the map to riverlands
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>>158076201
uh, Ulm was toppest on every graph for land nations sans gem income. And dominion, where Agartha was ahead.

Tied for most provinces, most income, most research, they were winning on the most graphs (and most likely, still are).
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>>158076485
I really, really don't feel like digging through the archives to prove you wrong. You had the most provinces, and you've got blood hunters and patrollers everywhere.
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>>158076485
Only one way to know for sure :^)
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>>158075637
>Bery has been occupied
That has not yet happened.
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>>158076623
You'd be wrong - Hinnom and Ulm were tied at provinces (and both below R'lyeh)
>>158076746
I meant occupied with fighting Machaka, not occupied in the sense they've been conquered.
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>late game
>full diversity
>7-8 research in everything
>no idea what the fuck to spend my gems on
>everything is tiny raiding parties, so being able to put up all the battlefield buffs literally doesn't matter
>Every battle is a RoS trap hitting pathetically few targets because no one mage balls anymore or a magic phase fight with thugs

Do I just not get late game, or is it really a drag?
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>>158081283
just follow your dreams and you'll know the true end game
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>>158076275
What a suggestive cougar. There is also a Song of Ice and Fire map on Llama, but there's no dl link, and it has 30+ sea provinces. Maybe if we get more aquatic nations it'll be on the table.
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>>158081574
I literally cannot find the map anywhere and Llama didn't get back to me when I asked him to e-mail me the files for it.

If you manage to succeed where I failed, post the link.
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>>158081667
That's a shame, I figured that with something as fan-wanky as that it would at least have a forum page devoted to it somewhere.
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>>158081883
If it helps, the last game to run it was Russian. Maybe Vava Green would know?
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>>158081574
>>158081667
>>158081883
>>158081983
just download the 16 fixed start positions and edit out the fixed start positions. ezy pzy

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgj2fl4j4yjt3qw/Riverlands16a.rar?dl=0
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>>158082046
That's as simple as deleting the province numbers from the .dm, right?
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>>158006972
>Summon Animals Spam Meme When

You guys know summoning animals is better than summoning undead right?

I'd like to see a faggot mage try to banish a goat.

protip a goat is 2 stubborn 2 get banished

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkOK8tdEsFY
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>>158082046
>>158082118
It appears that this anon already removed the #start tags. Thanks kind anon.
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>>158083042
>>>/trash/
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>>158009517
Oh joy, 2 hyper late game slogs at the same time. Thank god Der Gotter didn't turn into the same sort of shit, that would have been miserable.
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What the heck does the "seven white doves" event do?
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>>158084230
At least it wasn't Latlus
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>>158084485
I can only imagine if the Revenge of Flatus players for Patala, C'tis, Mictlan, and Xibalba had been replaced by Aran/Lukas/Kannon/Carlix (the domgnatgen folks with basically 0 stales)

Oh what a fucking time we would have had.
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>>158051538
Glitch if you're still around and can to talk, I'm in chat
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>>158084302
-12 unrest.
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>>158082046
I'm looking for the Song of Fire and Ice map, tho. Riverlands is pretty easy to find
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>>158085134
Huh. Didn't have any unrest, so nothing happened.

Didn't stop a bunch of other events from saying I got extra order or dominion in a province when both those stats are maxed out in those provinces.
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Is there a downside giving Ardmon's Soul Trap to an out-of-the-action mage instead of having it take up space in my lab?
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Pink, do a fucking double this time, you piece of shit.
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Remove Robbledoth
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>>158089374
Why?
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>>158076485
Ulm was tied for second in provinces. Had a (narrow) lead in research. Was somewhere in the middle in everything else, including gems, dominion, forts, and armysize.

t. ulm
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For the supposed greatest greek hero this fag sure is weak.

Can he even be thugged properly?
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>>158090570
Give him a brand and he's good to go. 18 prot + invuln 20 is enough to make him ignore most PD.
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>>158091124
Invulnerability doesn't stack with prot though.
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>>158091170
It does.
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>>158091170
It stacks as well with armor as base prot does, so it's essentially free ironskin.
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>>158090570
>dat leadership
>inspirational
He can thug fine, but I'd rather keep him for the morale bonus.
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>>158084485

Please do not lewd the Katyusha
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>>158089741
Narrow research lead with Pelagia, while blowing everyone else out of the water.
Also had the highest income of anyone. I guess you're trying to argue 1st place = middle?
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How about we have some circlejerk? If NO just say so.

Your favorite dominions player: Stone Dog for me. Decent Italian player having pleasant personality, easy to have trade deals with, makes a reliable ally.
Doninions player you fear the most: It's Sy. He is a testing monster who you'll never be able to catch off guard. Also prone to develop innovative strategies.
Dominions player you would like to fight against the most: Maybe it's Lambert_S. He is actually pretty good so you can fight against him giving your all and even learn something, but he is not flawless so in the end you can hope to actually win.
Your most disliked dominions player: Rammona maybe. He is such an autistic faggot that he can sit on his 20 provinces about 200 turns or more if he feels like it. Also he would never buy my diplomonstering always saying to me just to fuck off. Backstabbing me freaquently.
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>>158098234
t. Stone Dog
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>>158098234
No.
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>>158098234
Both my favorite Dominions player and the guy I fear the most is Rejakor, because he's the best player I ever played against. He's intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor, and no matter that so many people hate me.
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>>158098398
>me
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>>158098539
I think that may have been the joke. He did the intelligent, nihilistic, wicked sense of humor trinity, after all.
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>>158098670
I wouldn't put it above Rejakor to legitimately fuck up in such a manner.
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Do your turns.
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Game: Domgs_Bizarre_Adventures
Turn number 23
Next turn due: 14:41 GMT on Sunday October 23rd

Abysia 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Fomoria 2h file received
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Helheim Waiting for 2h file
Machaka 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ur 2h file received

every single turn...
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>>158099997
>tfw in this game, but as Helheim in another game

Made my heart skip a beat.
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>>158100181
Who are you in bizarre?
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>>158100209
Ur.
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>>158100209
China.
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>>158100209
>diplomonstering intensifies
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I spent so long thinking about balance issues for my Star Wars mod, not sure why I bothered, looks like most modders just cobble together bullshit and call it a day.

35 gold for a double wielding sacred with second shape and fire immunity!
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>>158100560
>their vanes
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>>158100560
Please un-start the game, I have a modnation that I would want to play with.
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>>158100639
No.
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>>158100238

So, how big is TC?
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>>158100841
Mid-size, decent army, totally inoffensive and friendly, don't attack please.
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>>158100560
Jaguar warriors are better considering those are cap only.
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>>158100560

You mean like EA TC sacreds?
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>/v/anheim
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>>158101071
>>158101232
These have vastly better stats (14 attack, strength, magic resistance), armour (16), and their second shape has ethereal
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>>158101445
I moggers dom or sub?
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>>158100923
>>158100276
Stop it, you impostor. However you are right that I am not aggressive, all my wars are defensive.
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>>158101706
Pozpig sub.
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>>158101843
In other news. ANOTHER CONTESTANT ENTERS THE CHINABOWL. However the power of Dio is TOO MUCH for Machaka!
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>>158101945
Damn son.

What happened?
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>>158101945
>posting a ton of reports where you win
Remove China.
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>>158101945
I N D I E S
N
D
I
E
S
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>>158101990
China happened.
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>>158101706
dom
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>>158102441
Do you at least have a feminine penis?
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>>158102462
Not really, maybe moggs does but you'll have to ask him.
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Welp, I'm dead. Exactly as predicted.

Agartha is leading every single chart by a wide margin (apart from number of troops, where Arco is somehow keeping pace), and still nobody lifts a single finger to stop him. Y'all have fun playing yet another typical /domg/ game where there's been an obvious leader since year 2 and nobody ever even tried to stop him.

Just don't say I didn't warn you.
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>>158101945
https://youtu.be/6bhZ28aXsQI?t=21
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Hey Latus3 badmin how about looking for subs for the staling players? At least 1 of them is in a very good position.
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>>158100560
Hey, you get 25g sacred dualwielders yourself.

They don't have second shape, but you can easily get 2x as many as Aurum to make up for that.
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>>158101945
Yo china I need to retake those two provinces beside me because if I dont my guys will go on strike and I will die.
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Which UW nations would you re-work and how?
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>>158105909
MA Atlantis, I'd try to make their troops less shit.
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>>158101534
Which would you rather have, 100 of those or 500 jaguar warriors?
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>>158106524
100 x 35 = 3,500 gold
500 x 26 = 13,000 gold

A better question would be 100 Firebeards or 135 Jaguar Warriors, and I would take the Firebeards and win
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>>158108201
>135 Jaguar Warriors
Mictlan will have way more than that, though.

Better example is 100 firebeards and 350 human infantry against 270 jaguars.

Equal gold, but Aurum doesn't get to spend all of it on cap-only units.
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>>158100560

>build a bunch of fire crossbows to attack a guy with fireproof sacreds
>get asked why would you do that
>answer like an edgemeister
>learn of said sacreds
>whine in thread about balance issues of a modnat game

As expected of a SWfag.
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Nice admining, fag.
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>>158104849
fuck off, I plan on eating at least a couple of them.
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Speaking of stales, can the admin of MADDEN set Nazca AI already? Unless you're Ermor and want to finish eating him.
>>
Honestly, I dunno how you guys are planning to win this.
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>>158108201
I was thinking in terms of turns. After say, 100 turns mictlan will always have many more jags than you'll have firebeards. Not to mention that if you're building a bless around firebeards then you'll most likely have shitty scales which is much easier for mictlan to deal with. They're not overpowered, but they are for you since like all of your damage is fire based.
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>>158109245
They are cheap regardless though
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>>158109245
Wait, he attacked you?

Those blasters of his are basically an autowin against anyone else this early, and he attacks the one person with cheap fire resist units?
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This is probably no nearly enough. Anyone else willing to send me some?
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>>158109826
Put all 122 there, you jew.
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>>158109824

Yup, and this is his reply to my inquiry as to why he would do that. He attacks me, his hard-counter, into the shitty land of South America (it really is), and gets all analflustered when he finds out who exactly it is he's fighting.
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>>158109947

B-b-but MUH LAST SHEKEL!
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>>158110074
I have units that don't rely on fire, but those Firebeard things are good against everything, they have much better stats, attacks and protection than Jaguar Warriors while only being a few gold more
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>>158109486
I am pretty sure it's Ermor.
And he's being a huge fag.
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>>158110198

Mate, if you haven't noticed, this is a modnat game, we're all OP, this isn't meant to be a serious and balanced game. Hell, Dom 4 isn't a serious and balanced game in the first place. You're complaining about nothing and all it's doing is showing your asspain.
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>>158109354
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>>158110306
I guess I hold my work to a higher standard
>>
Are there any games open?
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>>158110198
But they're cap only, rack up afflictions quickly and aren't well blessed. You're the one with fucking guns
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>>158091124

>Encumbrance 8
>>
AT vanheim, are you around?
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>>158114542
No.
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>>158114542

Yes.
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>>158114542

Maybe
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>>158114542

Maybe.
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>>158114542

Try testing it?
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>>158114542
It depends.
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>>158114542

I don't know.
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>>158115186
>>158115640
>>158115684
>>158115701
>>158115735
>>158115782
>>158115806
>>
does the page to make blitz games still exists?
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>>158116520
Moggers is working on it.
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>>158111624
Bump for game
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>>158117745
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/340412122407955023/
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>>158101445
Anyone have the moggers pics?
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>>158119203
Ask in chat.
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>>158119260
How do I do that anonymously?
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>>158119352
No need for that, moggers is happy to provide.
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>>158117995
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>>158119440
Do you really think the kind of person who lives on an anonymous website is comfortable with asking something like that while wearing a name?
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>>158119603
Why not, It's just a fake name.
>>
Clearly to solve this dispute, instead of dead-hours bumping with sheep, LoGH, or shitposts, we should bump with moggers nudes.
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>>158119771
and have the general deleted hours before autosage, genius!
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>>158119771
Excellent idea, maybe we can even attract a few new people with them.
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Answer is 'NO'. I'll never accept this shitty mod as my only mod. Vanila is justice. Only the scrubs ruining games and not the vanila setting. This game only proofs that.

And our NAP is until the turn 67 I believe.
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>>158119905
Just censor the pics a bit.
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>>158119963
>NAP

Pathetic.
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>>158119963
Are you ready to be jihaded by sceletons?
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>>158119963
SUMMOD ACKBAR

GO ONWARD ERMOR, YOU ARE THE HERO WE NEED BUT NOT THE ONE WE DESERVE
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>>158032032
I think 2 was the last civ game I played. Fug that was a long time ago. Nuking the world into a swamp was fun.
I also played 1 at a friend's house but we were little kids and didn't know what we were doing.
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>>158119963
>inb4 he gets boned by Ermor
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>>158119963
>there are people actually intentionally shitting up non-summod games
I thought this was just a joke.
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>>158120787
>playing the game by the official rules
>with official nation
>casting official spells
>"shitting up the game"

Dude what? I'm surprised he had the decency to actually wait out a NAP, if I was gonna shit up a game there's no way I'd let something stupid like that keep me from fucking another player.
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>>158119963
Vanilla dominions is haram
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>>158120913
>kingmaking
>not shitting up the game
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>>158119963
SUMMOD AKBAR
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>>158119963
What the fuck is wrong with your English.
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>>158121182
There are like 3 people who are not staling in that game. I'm the one staling.
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>>158121279
I bet it's better than your Russian.
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>>158120913
Just as I said. That is not Ermor who 'ruined' this game, but pathetic, weak-willed scrubs who was consisting for about 66% of all the participants.
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>>158121386
Toп лeл, бpaтишкa.
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>>158121436
>play without Summod
>surprised when people don't want to deal with Ermor

Seems the solution here is to play with Summod.
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>>158121586
The problem is not that they didn't WANT to deal with Ermor, they CAN'T do it because they are shit.
And now I have to deal with a huge uncontained MA Ermor again. What a pain.
Well, it can not be helped. At least I hope C'tis gonna win. Aspho is fine too.
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>>158121824
>everyone is shit because they didn't deal with Ermor

Well anon, why didn't YOU deal with Ermor?

>b-but he wasn't close to me!
Maybe that's why you're still alive, maybe it wouldn't have been so easy if you actually started next to him.
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>>158121941
>Well anon, why didn't YOU deal with Ermor?
Because I have to deal with quadblessed MA Mictlan, insane Pelagia raiding my shore and all other AI shits poping out here and there.

>>b-but he wasn't close to me!
He wasn't close to me, but even if he was, at least I wouldn't let him expand in my direction, or would die trying.
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>>158121941
>Well anon, why didn't YOU deal with Ermor?
He had a NAP with Ermor, apparently.

>>158121824
>The problem is not that they didn't WANT to deal with Ermor, they CAN'T do it because they are shit.
You had a NAP with Ermor.
>And now I have to deal with a huge uncontained MA Ermor again. What a pain.
You had a NAP with Ermor
>Well, it can not be helped.
It can be helped. You just chose not to.
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>>158122175
>Because I have to deal with quadblessed MA Mictlan, insane Pelagia raiding my shore and all other AI shits poping out here and there.

Yeah because everyone else had no issues apart from Ermor right? I'm sure only you had problems with other nations apart from Ermor.

>I wouldn't let him expand in my direction, or would die trying.
Sounds to me like they did the latter.

Summod is looking more inviting now, isn't it?
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>>158122179
I've got NAP with him only about 8 turns ago so we both can deal with the remaining AI retards. But it seems he is not interested anymore.
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>tfw vanilla Ermor in the bottom corner of a non-wraparound map
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>>158122380
>Summod is looking more inviting now, isn't it?
Not really. I playing 1 game with summod currently, and all I can see is just good players being able to snowball even faster than they usually do and scrubs getting their hopes up thanks to a cheaper items and summons just to be curbstomped a bit later by a powerful good player.
Summod shitter are the worst. On the other hand people who made summod are nice people, but they made a frankenstein as far as I can see.
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>>158122779
Vava, is that you?
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Blitz in chat soon. Shitters are banned, so no more event spam.
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>>158122972
>Shitters are banned
But I see them all in chat.
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>>158119963
>honoring NAPs
>on /domg/
wew
e
w
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>>158121824
Why didn't you deal with Ermor?
Are you shit too?
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>>158125503
I'm not going to commit to a war where I have nothing to gain.

You make the first move and I'll come help you out, I'm not going to do your fucking job for you.
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So, this walks toward you at the speed of map move 1, with all of one connection.

Can anyone guess what happens next?
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>>158127845
kame plz
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>>158127845

Multiple Murdering Winter casts?
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>>158127845
A few earth gems and some teleports destroying that entire army?
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>>158125323

It is a dream of mine to play in a game with /domg/ where all wars were preceded with formal declaration made in a message to all, where alliances and NAPs were respected and where a player could capitulate and be spared from total destruction.
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>>158128984
Sounds incredibly boring.
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>>158128984
sounds boring as fuck
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>>158128984
I wouldn't trust any fucker who capitulates. For all you know he could be supplying your enemies magical weapons to fuck your shit up.
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>>158128984
Dom3Mods has done some of those recently. They looked dumb to me.
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Only 6 slots left, not including aquatic nations!

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CanIntoHost

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/340412122407955023/
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>>158127781
Right back at you m8
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>>158129181
>>158129165
This. The more ruthless and chaotic a war is, the more entertaining it becomes.

Sure, one-sided gangbangs are boring, that's why you should encourage as much backstabbing as possible.
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>tfw multiple games are waiting on a single players turn
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>158098234
Lambort is a pretty cool dude. I like playing against him because he speedplays turns. All the fun of fighting somebody who has a good knowledge of Dominions, while still potentially making mistakes due to not being autistic about testing things.

I play the same way, so it's a good matchup.
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>>158130145
I'm sorry, I've been playing Civ6 all day.

Also I'm not going to stop.
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>>158100560
Somebody has to hold the line, m8

I get super autistic about balancing my mods as well. I try to stay within the T2 vanilla bracket.
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>>158130285
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET PLEBS IN

"BUT ANON LET PEOPLE LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU"

LIES
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>>158110608
>Agartha finally let go

Holy shit Nazca
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>>158130285

>playing a Civ game on launch
>not being patient and waiting for a couple of expansions/major DLCs to actually make it not shit
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>>158110608
Jesus christ
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>>158110608
You can pinpoint the exact moment Agartha's will breaks.
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>>158130285
Same here.
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>>158130285
>>158131241
Anyone who gets enjoyment from playing civ should be put against the wall and shot.
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>>158131673
Civ IV remains an excellent game for those interested in grand strategy instead of tactical scripting.
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>>158131673
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>>158131824
Those who are interested in grand strategy should play paradox autism games.
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>>158131824
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>>158131930
Too many AIs
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>>158131824
>civ
>grandstrat

I know this is bait but I had to.
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>>158110608
We now reach the point of ErmorOP where Asphodel has been staling for fully half the game.

I don't know why you're still playing Nazca, but you're an absolute madman.
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>>158133281
>I don't know why you're still playing Nazca
Autism, probably.

I didn't survive all that backstabbing just to quit when my enemies give up.
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Game: VanillaCataclysm
Turn number 8
Next turn due: 04:56 GMT on Sunday October 23rd

Barony of Black 2h file received
Bishopric of Brown 2h file received
Margraviate of Green 2h file received
Emirate of Grey 2h file received
Principality of Pink Waiting for 2h file
Beydom of Purple 2h file received
Empire of Red 2h file received
Khanate of White 2h file received
Autocracy of Aquamarine 2h file received
Bureucracy of Beige Waiting for 2h file
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>>158133435
Just ask for the game password and forcehost it until you win. You deserved that.
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/domg/ should probably try and find responsible adults to be backup admins or something
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>>158133448
Admin, set Pink AI. That piece of shit is incapable of doing a double turn.
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>>158133569
I don't know who the admin is. He went AI a long time ago anyway.
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>>158133925
The password is 32167. I dunno why you want to play that game though. Just play SP or something.
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>>158133774
While I happen to agree that he's being rude, I'm not going to set him AI for it.

>>158133925
It's CoolStory
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>>158133978
>I dunno why you want to play that game though.
>>158133435
>>
>Run Misfortune/Drain
>Get an average of more than 1 free gem event per turn
>My neighbors are mobbed by indy attacks while my provinces are in the clear

Who even bothers with luck anymore?
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>>158129584
I would join but i'd have to join /v/anheim.
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>>158137368
you deserve it
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Game: VanillaCataclysm
Turn number 8
Next turn due: 04:56 GMT on Sunday October 23rd

Barony of Black 2h file received
Bishopric of Brown 2h file received
Margraviate of Green 2h file received
Emirate of Grey 2h file received
>Principality of Pink Waiting for 2h file
Beydom of Purple 2h file received
Empire of Red 2h file received
Khanate of White 2h file received
Autocracy of Aquamarine 2h file received
Bureucracy of Beige 2h file received

okay lets gangbang this fucking idiot
>>
So are the fortress upgrades worth it? I can see Roads being useful because you get more administration and thus more recruiting per turn, but the defense upgrades don't seem to add all that much, and supply doesn't really matter in a siege situation because I generally summon need-not-eats. Am I missing something obvious?
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>>158139578
Eh, generally not. The defense upgrades also add towers that shoot at people, which can be nice when armies are still vulnerable to being shot, but you are probably better off buying more forts, more troops, or more mages.
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>>158139578

Roads are (almost) always worth building. I mean, maybe not if you're Caelum or Bats, but otherwise the strategic mobility boost is very nice.
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>>158139578
Roads are useful for removing the mm penalty from forests in certain places.
My personal opinion is roads should also be purchasable on all rough terrain, but that's just me (would make having a swamp/mountain/waste capital less painful).
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>>158140183
The problem with roads is that they only work in forests. Sure you can build them on mountains and shit, but that doesn't actually do anything.
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>>158140334
But you can't build them in mountains, though. That's why they're useless.
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>>158140414
You can build them in border mountains tho.
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I'm trying to combat a massive Agarthan naval invasion with a nation that doesn't have any unique undead. What should I do?
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>>158140687
Border mountains don't have movement penalties. That's why you can build roads in them.

And anyways, what map besides Glory of the Gods has border mountains anyway?
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>>158140768
What nation are you?
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>>158140932
MA Tien Chi.
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>>158141021
Use Living Mercuries and a slightly modified communion to fight UW. They wreck statues on account of their high damage bludgeoning AP attacks.

Your mages are actually quite good at fighting UW. Your big mages and masters of the way have W for dropping elementals, while your geomancers can still do either a soul-slay com or spam E magic (including yet more elementals). Prot buffs are fantastic on both your mercuries and the elementals that you can summon. Mass Protection will be even better than usual because you don't need to worry about fire damage. Against statues in particular, you also have that S3 spell that forces them to save or be enslaved and deals damage even if they succeed in their save.

The issue is honestly going to be getting enough UW breathing gear for your mages; that shit gets expensive fast. Once you can bring a mage ball to bear, though, your magic is well suited to fighting Agartha.
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Where all the memes at?
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>>158140768
Have you tried using Frozen Seas?
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Shillwinter are clearly a bunch of racist white men, making Machaka bad to keep the black man down. What would you change about them to reflect the true power of the glorious Ebonoid race?
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>>158145886
Give Machaka access to big headed scientists with 9's in all paths and 50 adept researcher.
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>love early and mid game
>just reaching research goals and steamrolling other nations
>reach late game, no idea what to research
>too much troops and commanders to command
>see my carefull laid plans being shot down, when enemy uses spells that I didin't prepare for
>stress of taking the turns before staling
>going AI starts to seems like good idea


I just want to be comfy
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>>158145886
Enable recruitment of Markata ;^)
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>>158147283
And I just want you to quit being a little bitch. Guess we can't all get what we want, huh?
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>>158129584
oops I submitted a pretender as Ys and didn't know I had to sign up on steam, and looks like Ys was already claimed
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>>158147283
>be comfy in early game
>expanding
>good relations with neighbors
>comfy midgame
>just consolidating my shit and researching
>lategame
>open the player list
>half my neighbors have gone AI since ages without me even noticing
>there's only 3-4 players left apart from me
>cancer globals start flying
>get spammed with messages to attack X because he's eaten 4-5 AI players and is about to win
>tfw will never have a proper lategame without half the players going AI

Illwinter better completely overhaul how mages work or at least greatly improve scripting, lategame now is almost non-existent, half the players just decide it isn't worth the bother unless they are in an overwhelmingly strong position.
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>>158148563
Elf removed
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>>158094251
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>>158127781
Reminder I"m fighting SUM1MOD ERMOR right now in my game and I'm handling him just fine and everyone around him is properly fighting him, Rather then being this poor jew who will have to fight a giant ermor all by himself because he didn't pick sum1mod
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>>158156296
Why is fucking Arco always trying to take water sites in every game?
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Ded thred
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>>158160701
Who?
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>>158006972
>Never used archers before
>recruit 30 archers
>lets see how they work
>do jackshit against chaff
>do jackshit against sacreds
>holy fuck nothigs dying

10/10 would spend gold on archers again.
Although I must admit, they arn't to shabby if you can manage to script them to shoot rearmost units which are generally mages. But if your playing against a competant player, they'll just throw chaff back with the mages to absorb the arrows Im assuming.
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>>158161058
Archers are good against other ranged units generally
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>>158161058
Is this bait?
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>>158161058
Not enough archers.
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>>158161058
Archers work best in larger fights for a number of reasons. They should still be worthwhile in small numbers, though.

They're also ineffective against heavy armor and shields until you can put up Flaming Arrows. Did the chaff/sacreds you tried them against happen to have one or both of those?
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>>158161737
What about mounted archers?
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>>158162201
Now this is confirmed b8
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>>158162201
Usually shit (as archers, some of them are decent melee units and should be used for that instead).

The only thing that matters for archers is the kind of bow they're using. You want cheap archers so you can put more arrows in the air.

Most horse archers are expensive for the kind of bow they use, so they don't make good archers.
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>>158141439
Okay then.

So I recruited a bunch of Imperial Geomancers and are planning to give them all Slave Matrixes and Rings of Water Breathing, while my Wave Breaker-equipped Female Immortal Hero casts Communion Master, followed by Living Water and Mass Protection, all the while flanked by two Masters of the Way - one with the Rod of Death, and the other with the Orb of Atlantis. And every single mage will have as many Living Mercuries as they can hold onto. Is that a decent start?
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>>158162606
I've got them on Hold and Attack scripts. Does that make a difference?
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>>158162954
Yeah, they'll fire twice then charge.

Still mediocre, but that's probably the best use for them.
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>>158163374
Well, they're hardly the only variety of frontline troops at my disposal. I've still got traditional cavalry and infantry for use, but I've taken a liking to this squad type for having 3 map move and slightly lower resource requirements than all my other squads.
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>>158162703

shhhhh nobody tell him
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>>158164230
You're a dick.
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>>158164230
t. Agartha
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>>158162703

Make sure the Mercury are positioned far as fuck away from anything lacking poison resistance. That poison cloud will melt your mages.

I don't think there is any mod out there that gives MA Tienchi Mercury Barrel access, but make sure those are only on poison resistant commanders as well.
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>>158164613
I know how elemental clouds work, thank you.
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>>158165224

nb4 someone posts the screencap of LA Agartha killing its mages with barrels.
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2Ded2Thred
>>
Slave Matrixes still work if a mage uses Communion Master instead of holding onto a Crystal Matrix, right?
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>>158168149
Yes.
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So, whose the rude dude who tried to kill meh god?
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>>158170916
Tried?
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>>158171782
yes, tried. You could have just sent the 100 pearls to me ya know.
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>>158162703
How can you afford to give all your geomancers slave matrices? Just have them cast Communion Slave

Also, use some of them as masters too. Geomancer communions are MA TC's bread and butter.
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>>158176895
I've already got perfectly good Immortals to act as my communion masters.

Do you think half a dozen Geos would last against a Basalt Castle with a huge garrison of Wet Ones?
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>>158177465
Oh man, you really don't get communions. Uh, gosh, I honestly don't know where to start. I'm going to let someone else do this one.
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>>158177546
I'd probably need like 4 entire columns of Geomancers to do this properly, aren't I?
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>>158176895
if he can afford to give many geo's some matrixes let him. That turn 1 advantage must be what he needs
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>>158177465

As >>158177546 says, you are missing a lot here, but I will strive to cover the most cogent.

Firstly, the only point of using slave matrices is to hook in non-S/B casters. Usually ones with massive regen. Four Lamia Queens, for example, can fuel a really astonishing amount of casting. Everything else, just have them cast Slave. So long as they're higher in turn order than your masters, it makes no difference. Making Crystal Matrices for the masters is much more important, since those let you cast with communion boost on turn 1.

Second, you should be communion mastering much more than just national heroes. While they are fine masters, there are generally three categories of master, for which they are only really suitable for the first. Summarized:
1) deploying high-path single-cast effects early and without excess gem use. i.e. Mass Regen, Army of X, Mass Flight, Doom. Pretty much everything battlefield wide falls in here, and the ability to deploy it on turn 1 with any group of research mages is Significant. It also lets you boost effectiveness of rare-path mages. If you only have one N mage, and you want Howl, Relief, and The Devouring Swarm, then a communion will let you do that in three turns, as opposed to casting the first and passing out.
2) Slave Buff propagators, whose job it is to cast AoE:Caster spells, such as Earthpower, PoTS, Personal Regen, et cetera, which get passed down to slaves, and hopefully prevent them from dying. These can be scripted for Communion Slave, at the end of their buff cycle, but are generally lower priority. They aren't strictly required if all you're supporting are Type1 masters, but are absolutely required for
3) Spammers. Massable mages, usually your research corps, who use a communion to spam the shit out of high path spells. In your case, probably GfH. You'll have a Lot of these, and they are where you need to start thinking very carefully about how you are keeping your slaves alive.
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>>158178070

That doesn't actually make any difference, though. Cast order is fixed. You can just turnorder it.
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Glitch, could we talk?
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How 2 thug golem with shit bless?
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>>158009738
Still looking for those suggestions. I could just start the poll to finalize the roster now, but with how long it is until the export deadline, I figure it won't hurt to wait a bit longer.
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>>158161058
30 archers cost as many resources as four soldiers.
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RILEY
DID
NOTHING
WRONG
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>>158183975
Riley is a great neighbor, can confirm.

t. totally not a skellington
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>>158183218
Why not post an initial poll and then when people get buttflustered about why their flavorite meme x isn't there, you can repost an updated poll and repeat that process frequently as nerds become motivated to list the memes they like
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>>158183975
Can confirm squids are friends.
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>>158184451
Sounds like a pain to constantly recreate the poll, not to mention for voters who have to go through said polls every time they're changed. But eh, maybe I'll start the poll this evening and see what happens.
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How's Astral Tempest? I never saw it casted.
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>>158184781
It's a worse Soul Drain. They're really good together though. I plan to cast them like that soon, stay tuned.
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Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Pythium Waiting for 2h file
Ulm 2h file received
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There's still 9 hours left but Arco (the #1 or #2 player) has staled twice in a row, might want to be careful not to let that happen again (extend/find sub if necessary)
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>>158187695
I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.
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>>158187821
t. illuminati
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>S9 mage has found 88 magic sites
>S9 mage has found 47 magic sites
>S9 mage has found 22 magic sites
So why isn't Strands of Arcane Power cast more often?
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>>158193002
Because it's fucking Evo9, and by the point you get there you'll have all paths and your lands sitesearched.

Summod definitely makes it better though.
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>>158193061
>Summod definitely makes it better though.
What does summod do to it?
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>>158193331
Makes it Evo8. Basically, you get both Astral Tempest and Strands at Evo8, so it's a much more useful late-game research goal for astral/evospam nations. I know I'm gonna cast it soon in one of my games.
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>>158193456
An evo8 sitesearching spell is still pretty bad. Even if it does sitesearch everywhere in your dominion at once.

I don't remember what the other effects are, are they more worth it?
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>>158194424
They're basically mind duel against every S mage in your dominion, and automatic mind burn to all non-S mages. Considering you're likely to cast it as a S9 caster, it's pretty good.
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>>158194493
It's actually really good against communion nations, making an invasion virtually impossible
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ded
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>>158196724
Gods almighty. It's definitely time to cast it.
>>
Fuck, I forgot my charging cord at the dorm. I'm going to be a little slow handing my turns in until I can get a new one.
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>>158194493
I tested it and it's pretty minor. A S10 pretender with 4 magic penetration detected 2-3 mages of a 20 mages stack every turn, and only 0-1 of them got killed.

In theory it's really cool and seems useful, but it first checks detection against MR (not affected by penetration), and then it checks MR for mind burn (affected by penetration).

In almost every case vengeful waters is better.
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>>158197098
The feebleminding effect against astral mages is the good one. I assume the detection roll is the same (I guess it's 12 against 15 or whatever magical resistance your communion fodder might have) but then feebleminding is guaranteed against low astral mages (S+d6 vs S+d6, in which case S9 would always win against S3s or lower).

I'm not 100% on those mechanics but either way, in my experience a sizeable chunk of all astral mages gets feebleminded every turn.
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>Want to play Dominions 4
>Multiplayer is entirely too slow, and I have to wait all day for a new turn
>Decide to go play my usual action-packed modern multiplayer games
>Hands get tired
Getting too old for action games, but too impatient for dominions 4.
I just don't know anymore
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>>158198689
Try playing a blitz
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>>158198689
Play blitzes.
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>>158198689
masturbate
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>>158198689
>Multiplayer is entirely too slow, and I have to wait all day for a new turn

I solve that by playing 10 games at a time. So I always have something to do.

The best part is that I can choose to abandon the games where I had a bad luck/expansion,and remain with 5 games with good expansion.
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>>158198896
So, you're that scrub piece of shit who I ate in 5 of my games.
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Due to my laptop dying and being unable to get the warhammer map working on another computer, I request a 36 hours extension, or someone uploading their version of the map.
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>>158198896
>going AI or staling if you fuck up expansion
you wanker
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>>158199149
Any reason the link on Llama doesn't work?
http://llamaserver.net/sombre/Dominions4/Maps/
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>>158199149
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1gBj2SN8zKnZGUzYjFXSlRrcjQ
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>>158199425
Thanks.
>>158199274
The map file opens as a text file, and the computer I've commandeered doesn't let me paste it into the copy of a map file.
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>>158199627
Right click -> save link as... -> done
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scripting 40 different communion invasion armies is suffering
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Any other human vs. human fights going on except for the Bandar vs Pan?
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>>158201649
It truly is
Army wide positioning and mage scripting presets when?
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>>158203034
Ashdod is brawling with Agartha. Scales versus an E9N9.
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>>158203034
I'm dealing with AI Ulm and AI Pelagia. My ELITE FORCES are carving them up.
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>>158198896
this is b8
please be b8
>tfw even if it isn't b8 people do this
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>>158204330
This is not bait. I'm in one of the games where that faggot did it.
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>>158187695
Now it's two and a half hours left so it's really beginning to look like Arco would stale if the turn isn't extended.
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>>158204749
Good. Time for some vulturing.
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>tfw every single war I have gets fucked up because some randomer shows up and invades me
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Game: VanillaCataclysm
Turn number 9
Next turn due: 20:52 GMT on Sunday October 23rd

Barony of Black 2h file received
Bishopric of Brown 2h file received
Margraviate of Green 2h file received
Emirate of Grey 2h file received
Principality of Pink 2h file received
Beydom of Purple 2h file received
Empire of Red 2h file received
Khanate of White 2h file received
Autocracy of Aquamarine 2h file received
>Bureucracy of Beige Waiting for 2h file
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>>158206831
At least it's not that pink fag again.
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>>158206830
Speed is the essence of war. Strike fast, strike silently, and keep your back protected. If you're in a war with someone for more than 1 year then you already failed.
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>>158206961
Twice I have had people on the ropes and twice some cunt has wrecked my plans by invading at literally the worst moment.
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>>158206961
>If you're in a war with someone for more than 1 year then you already failed.

Of course I mean this from the attacker's point of view. If you're the one defending then it's cool.
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>>158206961
Pfft. True pro players are at war with everyone since the start of the game and until they win.
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>>158207349
Okay actively invading and/or defending
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>>158207349
Am I pro /domg/ ? Honestly I would not mind some peace.
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>Gift of reason an indie War Elephant
>empower it to S9
>wish for magical power 6 times
>rainbow elephant war elephant
>justsingleplayerthings
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>>158208332
I got your gems, please tell me you dont have much pd on those provinces.
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gg Abysia

I'm going AI because apparently everyone else except Bandar has extra chromosomes.

This just shows that even with graphs, almost no one will attack the person for which victory is imminent. Apparently everyone besides Bandar is content to just sit around waiting for the game to end and not even attempting to do anything about it.
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>>158209746
welcome to /domg/
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>>158209746

You could, you know, attack me instead of camping that throne for 20 turns while I kill everyone else.
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>>158209903

You have endless amounts of chaff, and fighting in your dominion means GoH too.

I wasn't lying when I said that if everyone in the world didn't all attack you immediately, you were in a position to be untouchable within a few turns. I was completely correct in that assessment, but everyone except Bandar is completely retarded.
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>It's better to give up and die than to ever try something challenging.
t. Ys
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>>158210635

>It's better to give up and die than to ever try something challenging.
>something challenging

lol it's not challenging; it's completely impossible.

I did try something challenging back many turns ago when I realized that Abysia was running away with the game and so I set it motion a plan to at least attempt to get people to understand why he was already almost certainly going to win, but if we all attacked then there was at least a tiny sliver of hope.

That plan failed miserably, and with it any hope of anything other than an Abysia win.
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>>158210852
This is why /domg/ games always ends with one huge guy running away with it. You are all waiting for other players to attack, but because you are all waiting for someone else to attack you never actually attack.
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>I'll only fight if I'm sure to win and have lots of backup, otherwise I'll just sit back and let the leader win.
t. Ys
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Wew lad, thanks for giving Malakal another win, I guess. It's hard to attack a person when you don't border him, you know. Especially when you have 1v6 since turn 10 because of remove Ermor meme. I don't blame Man at all since he's a new player, and I don't blame Agartha because he's a retarded shitter, and I don't blame Bandar because he at least tried, but other dudes honestly should get a grip. I don't see a point to continue this game if most Abysia's neighbors went AI. Let's listen to other players' opinions, and if we're on the same page, let's end it.

To Malakal personally: if you really consider yourself a good player then you shouldn't just join anonymous scrub games and beat up every kid on the block. You're learning nothing from them, and they're (evidently) not enjoyable for those people. We really need a non-scrub tournament tier or something, where every player knows their opponents' match history and playstyles. "I'm gonna be anonymous so people wouldn't diplomance against me" is absolutely immature in my opinion.

Anyway, rainbow Ermor is still viable in summod, if a little challenging early-game. Would play again sometime.
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>>158211043

>but because you are all waiting for someone else to attack you never actually attack.

This is even worse than that, because Bandar and I did attack Abysia exactly when we said we would (I sent a global message out the turn I attacked as well), and still no one else attacked.
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>>158210635
kek if Agartha wasn't already outed as t. Pan I would have had some suspicions
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>>158211213

I know you weren't in a position to do much, I was mostly talking about Man, Mari, and C'tis.

If Man's new then that's fine, but if Mari and C'tis aren't new then they're either being played by Malakal on another copy or they're functionally retarded.
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Oh, and using that crossbreeding exploit is just BM, come on man, like you couldn't win without 9999 patrollers.
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Are mindless units immune to insanity?
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>>158211213
Malakal rarely joins non anonymous games because if he loses, he can't claim stupidly high winrates.
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>>158211583
Yes.
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>>158211728
Actually, they're immune to Riley's insanity but not to dimensional rod insanity.
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>>158211659
>implying malakal doesn't make it clear who he is as soon as the game starts
Hey, can you get in steamchat?
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>>158212603
I always reply "I'm already there" to those posts. Especially if I'm not in the game in question.
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>>158212838
but anon, critting in dominions is distinct from exploding damage
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>>158212838
Still not enough sixes for that to happen. Remember, when you get six you subtract 1 and keep rolling, so in order for that to happen you'll need 199 6s and 1 4.
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>>158212994
>>158213203
What now, faggots?

Shit got misaligned but it's 999 more or less and the guy talks about hit roll now.
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>>158211445
>>158211213
For me it's obvious too that Abysia is going to win without any worries. Since it can raid everyone with horrors, ate their lands with devils and have endless suplay of them thanks to infinite ammount of chaff to patrol newly conquered lands after the bloodhunt.
It became clear that Abysia is victorious after Ulm being eaten. Now I am just barely stopping his raiding and he just leisurely eating AI players just to recieve more bloodfarms, to gain more strength and destroy all players who are still matters.

Well, I was going to play until I got totally crushed and then send all the gems, items and gold to Ys or Ermor or whoever would be the strongest. But if both Ermor and Ys going AI it would be pointless. Personally I would like to learn something from Malakal in terms of battlefield tactics, he is really good at that, so I am not going to set myself AI, but I guess I can understand those who are not motivated.

All I can say in addition that summod MA Abysia is just a cheat. That ammount of chaff available for a bloodnation makes it extremly OP, let alone really good player ruling it.
Hell, I still can't comprehend how in the midgame MA Ermor was having less troops in the graph than MA Abysia. That is just... insane.

Well, whatever, the victor is clear, but still I would like to conclude this game properly.
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>>158208989
8 each
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>>158214397
Note that summod abysia does not have that kind of spam anymore. It resulted from a typo.
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>>158214397
>All I can say in addition that summod MA Abysia is just a cheat.
Pretty sure it was a typo in the stats. It should give you like 10+- chaff but it gave you 100.
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>>158215003
>>158215036

The typo was in the scaling on Abysian Crossbreeding in 0.68, yeah.

It should have been 10 + 1 per path level. It was 10+10.
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>justsingleplayerthings
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>>158211213

I don't like getting gang banged because I'm me any more than Ermor does not like getting gang banged because it is Ermor. I have had games where I was gang banged before I even did anything just because it was me and everyone knew it was me.

>>158211445

Man never was in any position to attack me, C'tis was busy all game I guess and Mari is still fighting Rus and Ermor. It didn't look like I was running away with the game either due to my shit income and research.

>>158211476

What exploit, I didn't even know it was a bug until I asked Sum1won about scaling and that was way deep in the game. All my attempts at fighting with breds failed and for patrols I could have used wolves as well, I had 30N per turn for most of the game.
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>>158216342
For what purpose?
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>>158216370
>I have had games where I was gang banged before I even did anything just because it was me and everyone knew it was me.
Dude, in VD you were gangbanged because Carlix was afraid of your doublebless centaurs, that's all.
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>>158216459
3000 astral pearls I wasn't using for anything other than wishing for Seraphs and kitting them out. Got bored waiting for domkills. That's not even that elephant's final form, he got up to level 9 in all paths
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>>158216587

We had a long term NAP and offered him alliance so... you are full of shit. And there were other games than VD.

Anyway we can vote on ending the game if people are giving up.

Who is for ending the game with yet another Malakal victory (tm)?
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>>158216737
Have you even tried talking to him about it? He admit it several times.
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>>158216737
I vote yes so that you wankers will stop whining about it in thread
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So... What now?
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>>158216342
It slightly annoys me that there aren't bigger bonuses for having really high path levels
Something like a unit automatically getting flying when they're A5, 1% regen for each N above 5, stuff like that, since you would think anything that has more skill in a path than the physical manifestations of that magic, like the elemental royalty, wouldn't find it difficult to permanently give themselves flying or whatever.
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>>158217351
Play games with summod
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>>158217351
Convert to the true balance mod,
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>>158217442
Magic paths gave various attributes in Dominions 3 (attack skill from fire, defence from water and such like). I guess resistances are more consistent in a way, but I liked getting attributes from magic. And besides, why not both?
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>>158217351
Are you telling me that basically every turn 4% of the world population dies, Ermor strikes about 10% of all units in the world with lightning, and even if they survive they get diseased, and on top of that he gets free pearls from every spell and item crafted?
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>>158216587
>Carlix was afraid of your doublebless centaurs
>being afraid of doublebless centaurs in a EA disciples games
Centaurs arent even a first rate sacred in EA
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>>158217796
It was because he and Malakal were neighbors and his teammates were absolute noobs with 0 expansion or something, he told me a while ago so I'm a little foggy about the details.
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>>158217870

So he preemptively gang banged me? See what I mean? I didn't even sneeze in his direction.
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>>158218169
Ask him yourself if you want to know what he did. I remember him definitely diplomancering left and right, both against team elves and team centaurs.
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>>158216370

> It didn't look like I was running away with the game either due to my shit income and research.

So let me get this straight: your dedication to misinformation is so extreme that you're going to lie about not clearly running away with the game in spite of 1) you just won the game, and 2)the tons of graphs I posted waaaay back proving that you were running away with the game.

Nigga come the fuck on, the game is over already, you can go ahead and stop pretending.
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>>158218297

No my friend, at the point when you posted the graphs I wasn't in a position to be uncontested. If I played Ys I could easily contest Abysia for example.
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>>158218534
>graphs prove he's winning
>literally just won the game
'no no i'm in a weak position honest'
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>>158218662

I am winning because I beat stronger opponents, how is that hard to understand?
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>>158218534

>I wasn't in a position to be uncontested.

No shit sherlock, that's why I posted the graphs: so that you WOULD be contested.

But that's not what we were talking about. We were talking about you being clearly in a snowball position, as proven by the graphs, and as proven by you snowballing.
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>it's the malakal bragging episode
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>>158218840

What I meant is a better Ys player would have beaten my Abysia solo. I would for sure.
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>>158217351
>What now?
I don't know. Try to win the game maybe? And remaining 3 players gonna try to stop you or something?
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>>158218987
>intentionally join shit player games
>HURR DURR U NOT STRONK ENOUGH TO BEAT ME
Pathetic.
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>>158219117

The game didnt have any tag on player skill cease thine butt hurt.
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>>158218987
Are you playing/are going to play Ys Mal?
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>>158219380

No and no.
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>>158214013
Needs to happen 3 times in a row to be a really dominions thing.
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Spooky
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>>158219210
>he couldn't tell it was a shit player game based on who signed up
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>>158221204
>he couldn't tell it was a shit player game based on it being on /domg/
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>>158221204
>>158221335

O feel the need to point out some of the players in the game had over 1k hours clocked in Dom4.
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>>158218987
Now that's not even a little bit honest.
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>>158221716
So? I have 700 and I've never won a game. Hours doesn't mean shit.
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>>158221716
>2000 hours afk or single player

My training is complete. I'm ready to fight Malakal now.
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>>158221782

I am not going to tutor you on how to play the game. Ys is a very strong nation and he had a very strong position in the game, enough to beat me.

>>158221784

Hard crowd to please. How am I to guess the player skill otherwise?
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>>158222028
Either you recognize the names, or you assume that if you don't recognize them they're shit.
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Honestly if you people (Ys and Ulm) pushed properly you'd have taken my territories instead of Abysia. I couldn't offer much resistance to 3 (later 4) fronts. Ys especially just kinda raided the coast and that was that.
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>>158222240
>implying you didn't get diplomonstered by Malakal
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For MA Vanheim, should I go W9E9 with garbage scales (C3, sloth maybe?, drain?, misfortune? I'm unsure what specifically would be best to take), S9 with scales, or Iriminsil N9E4 with scales?
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>>158223016
pick a less boring nation
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>>158222028
>I am not going to tutor you on how to play the game. Ys is a very strong nation and he had a very strong position in the game, enough to beat me.
You were up to your neck in blood slaves, toppest in gems, and much larger than him. No way is Ys going to beat you there.
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>>158223227
I've never played them before. I'm sorry!
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>>158223016
How is this garbage scales, you double nigger?
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Is Sceleria going for throne rush? If he gets neutrals on his borders and Nazca's, that's a lot of points.
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>>158223490

>Misfortune 2
>Drain 1

That's how.
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>>158223490
Yes that is about as garbage as I was thinking. Is Dom8 really worth it with sloth 3? I feel like I wouldn't be able to build 8 sacreds in one turn because of resources.
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>>158223490
Consider whether the MA cap only sacreds are worth such a heavy bless.
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>>158223618
>>158223625
Well, play more SP until you learn then.

You're going to use Vanjarls for research anyway, that -1rp is fucking nothing. -2 misfortune is mitigated by +3 order.
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>>158223490
5 elves is enough to expand easily. Don't need Dom8
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>>158223735
That's what I was thinking. Dom 6 with less sloth (for more income).
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>>158223702
Forgot description. This is for unavoidable armageddon spam on maps like oeridia or something.
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>>158223626
The bless is for jarls, obviously. Do you even realize how good E9 is on GO FAST thugged ponies? Helps t-strike spam heavily too if you're into it.
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>>158223815
Thank you for posting your lovely awoo.
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>that year 1 empire of red army on the move

spooky
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>>158223702
>-2 misfortune is mitigated by +3 order.
Events are rolled with order/misf added to the roll. Particularly higher/lower rolls are uncommonly good/bad events. Having higher misfortune not only makes you have fewer good/more bad events, it makes it less likely to have especially good events and more likely to have especially bad ones.

Anyways, I'd go -1 dom, O3, Drain 1, neutral misf with that double
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>>158222531
Not really, we agreed easily on borders and that was about it, actually he was exceedingly agreeable on borders, so much that if I was a more aggressive (or possibly naive, if it was a trap) player I might have seen that as a sign of weakness and attacked him early.

He also didn't backstab me until I was basically already done for by being attacked by 3-4 others. Of course the whole push for Ermor removal meant he knew I'd likely get gangbanged for aiding Ermor soon so he just waited for me to be weakened enough (and he himself might have been one of those pushing the Ermor removal). Either way he'd actually have been a little too late on the timing if Ulm and Ys had pushed properly, but they probably assumed I had more than I actually did.
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>all these sloth builds
It's like you niggas ain't gonna spam einheres
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>>158224460
Just decrease luck/magic, but honestly sloth 2 is the safest bet for most builds in the game.
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>>158224460
What would you suggest instead? Sloth is one of my biggest points of contention in pretender design for MA Vanheim right now.
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>>158224460
>not spamming fucking skinshifters with your quadrupled gold income
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>>158224615
Oh. I will say this is vanilla, not summod. If that changes any of the recommendations thus far (and thank you all for making them! <3)
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>>158224687
Skinshifters are little league
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>>158224907
Skinshifters are good. You didn't even count the werewolf form, did you?
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>>158225016
Try sending a block of skinshifters against einhere.
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>>158225135
Why would I do that? I'll use skinshifters as blockers and t-strike spam with my 99999 vanjarls that I can recruit from my 999 forts with my 999999999 gold.
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>>158225016
>slaughtered by shortbows
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>>158225251
You can do that with einhere too, and then also kill things with your elite berserkers that, by the way, cost less gold too so you can spend more on t-strikers and infrastructure
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>>158081508
I can't RE hard enough about you people invading my seas.
It's triggering me so much.
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>>158223945
Seems bad. Jarls need N9 to take them out of lucky arrow 1-shot territory.
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>>158225251
I should play this build, I think. 9 in all magic paths, 9 in all scales. Fuck the system.
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>>158225685
>jarls
>dying to arrows
Do you even mistform
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Artea you bear fuck you have 40 minutes before you stale take your damn turn
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>>158225641
Correction, I'm just reclaiming the seas you took from me so long ago.
I also brought a few water bottles, in case you weren't staying hydrated down there.
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>>158228168
Water is a native land of skeletons. Hobbits got no claim on it.
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>>158228501
>>158228168
correction correction: demon knights like water too
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>>158225685

With 16 Prot and mistform? Not likely.
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Dedest Thredest.
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end my suffering
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Good news, I found a site that reveals magic graphs.

Research
First: Dalkrin
Second: Robbledoth
Third: Sahuagin
Fourth: Mathosia
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>>158235526
Gems

First: Dwarfs
Second: Dalkrin
Third: Artea
Fourth: Smerv
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>>158235692
>suffering dalkrin to live
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>>158223964
>someone thinks my army is spooky
Warms my heart.
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>>158223964
>>158235794
Who's the biggest threat so far? Let's gangbang some Malakals.
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>>158235918
I doubt its me, I have found relatively few sites.Got priests for days but nothing special in terms of troops.
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>>158236085
You'd better give me a target, my boy. Otherwise I might consider YOU a threat.
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>>158235526
>>158235692
>>158235785

>freaking out over this

My research is only top notch in early game due to cap only researchers. Once everyone gets their forts and labs up I'll be recruiting 20RP per turn from turn 1 to turn 500+ while everyone else will outpace me no problem. The gems are only due to my +12 or so dgem capsite which most undead nations have.
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>>158236176
White is the biggest dude I can see.
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What artifact should I make next, domg?
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>>158236550
White has an ormr. Make of it what you will.

Await in-game contact.
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>>158236605
What can you make?
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>>158236676
What can't I make?
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>>158236723
Good posts
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>>158236826
Ya got me
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>tfw finally enough money to recruit guys again
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>>158235526
>>158235692
Where are the rest?
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>>158240135
>I found a site that reveals magic graphs.
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What do magic bonus sites actually do?
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>>158241602
Make the things of the appropriate school cheaper.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Degeneracy

Who wants to play with me?
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>>158244247
>Score graphs on
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>>158244360
It is quite degenerate.
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>>158244247
Fuck it I could go for another game, give me a bit to go check who is in LA again.
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>>158244717
Bats, Ghosts, Birds, Gryphons, and Midgard
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Come on Ur and Machaka, send your turns.

Even Helheim and R'lyeh did it and it's only 2 hours after last host, it would be really nice if we had a 2 hours turn.
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>>158244247
Make it ModNations and I'm in. I don't even care if every other player picks a vanilla nation.
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>>158244824
Whats LA Atlantis like?
>>158244967
Ooh I could go for some ModNations
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>>158245159
Cancer Removal Agent
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>>158244360
That was an oversight but it's fixed now

>>158244482
Not quite that degenerate
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>>158245208
I think I'll go Atlantis if we dont use mod nations.
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>>158245527
Yeah not using mod nations
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>>158245650
Fish people it is then.
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>>158245208
I have never seen Atlantis defeating Lemuria or R'lyeh, it's just a meme.
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>>158245917
I've definitely seen both.
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another turn fighting burds, another turn China refuses to stop the soon to be winner of the game, another turn he continues to waste his troops on Pythium and die in vain
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Someone explain Lemur Centurion expansion to me. Whenever I tried it, they just died. Is there some sort of scripting trick? Do you need more than 2 per province?
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>>158249578
It's Lemur Consul actually since they're the immortal ones. Lemur Centurions you use regular troops as well.
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>>158249835
This is for expansion. You're saying you spend 25 d gems on the H3 guys for expansion? That sounds awful desu
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>>158249887
It's not like you're going to be using death gems for a while and they're solid investment.
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>>158249964
You're saying one consul expands better than 5 centurions?
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>>158249964
>>158249835
pretty sure this guy is hella wrong, plus your wasting 25 D gems for an immortal "expander". That's half of a grandlemur
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Speaking of Lemuria, I have a new strategy for them - full scales

Basically, you use your freespawn ghosts and whatnot to frontline for indy crossbows. You try to put up lots of forts both in and out of your dom. Eventually, you'll have the immovable forts full of ghosts, but your early-midgame will be better because you can actually kill things with troops. Here's my pretender design
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>>158250193
great, what's your end game magic plan?
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>>158250304
Grand Lemurs doing their thing - thugging at first, and then WoD later on. It should be pretty straightforward to empower that last little step needed for tarts if I get to the super-duper late game.
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>>158235526
>>158235692
>Dalkrin totally not OP guys pls listen not OP very honest pls
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>>158250193
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Since the game is heating up in such, I thought I would share some valuable information. As we can see by the graphs, it's quite clear that TC, Abyssia and the backstabber Ermor are the biggest threats to the game at the moment. Fishes are fishes and nobody cares about them.
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>>158251703

Forgot my image
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>>158251703
considering you had the lore master site I had to stop you before you became a thread. Also we never had a formal alliance so it's hardly a backstab
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>>158251703
You either post graphs or send your turn.

Or both
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>>158251703
>>158251795

This image spins a similar tale
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>>158251703
>>158251795
>nobody cares about fishes
>has three thrones to himself and all the UW provinces too
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>>158251928
Just wait for him out of the water and kick him back in. You can win without the uw thrones, china
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>>158251795
Christ I nearly have as many provinces now as I did before I decided to fuck with china.
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>>158252016
I find it funny you are shilling out china now when you were more then happy to jump on niefelheim after china blooded him.
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>>158251795
>China starting to run away with the game
WORRY
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>>158252016

Why are you posting in my name?
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>>158250193
I have submitted my pretender to Degeneracy. =)
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>>158252240
>starting
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>>158252136

Just as you are happy to jump me after Niefelheim bloodied my nose

PS beware Ermor, he's getting up there in fuckboi magic territory
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>>158252312
Who is the second one? Ermor?
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>>158252312
>>158252410
WORRYING INTENSIFIES
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>>158252473

Fomoria
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>>158252470
Do people still seriously have less research than me? I have like six mages and I haven't been able to recruit any for at least five turns.
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>>158252470
I attacked you because you have the lore master site, that's a dangerous site to have, niefel blooding your nose was a bonus
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>>158252676
Well, to be honest Helheim and Mictlan are basically dead, but it's surprising how hilariously low C'tis' research is.
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>>158252570
Jesus Christ Riley calm down.
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>>158252696
So now you have it, a bigger nation than me so it makes it even more dangerous. Time for someone to take it from you now. Isn't it?
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>>158252359
What the fuck is unexpected nation?
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>>158252920
sorry, but Whamu isn't here to kill me yet, and the fact you only dropped graphs after being attacked just shows you are just as opportunistic as me, I'm also pretty sure Double bless chinese with 3 capitals is more dangerous then some romans cleaning up some vampires sympathizers
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>>158253187
Lemuria =)
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>>158253273
>>158252920
good to know my good friend Muhammad has my back
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Better luck next time, onii-chan.
Who got turned into sashimi now, huh?
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Would just like to remind everyone that I am open to forging shit at construction 4 for very reasonable prices.
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>>158253493

Grats, you convinced the third strongest player to double-team together with the 2nd strongest player.
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>>158254020
God that fort was an awful idea.
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Are Sirrushes ever worth the money?
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>when the most pointless battles are the most fun
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Degeneracy

shilling this
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>>158254395
Yes, maybe, it depends and don't know test it.

Even if they aren't bad, they are too slow to recruit to be good enough. Having 100 sirrushes with their stacking fears in a big fight would be super awesome, but that's 200 fucking cap turns, which is not worth. With E9N9 they can one-man expand, if I remember right. Also Sum1won buffed them a bit in the last summod version.
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Okay, I dunno if this is a bug with ME or just luck or something, but we have now had THREE War in Hell events before the first even faded.

I don't know if each one causes those x% events to crop up or if there's only one check, but god damn are there wars in hell.
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>>158257106
Is there any other slow to recruit troops? I honestly thought that was a commander only thing.
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>>158256986
Add Magic Enhanced. Do it for the memes.
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>>158256986
Joined as Mictlan. Let's get this degeneracy started.

this is my first time playing a blood nation, please be gentle
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>>158256986
should I join as a doujin artist?
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>>158258481
Magic enhanced might be fun for a laugh.
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Alright you guys, since I haven't gotten any further suggestions, I've just made the poll now:
http://pastebin.com/4YsNQcjn
(can't link it directly because of the spam filter)
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>>158254501
>when a bunch of vampires dies for absolutely no reason to what seems like an ranged AOE attack by ghosts

I don't even know what's happening in this game anymore.

Can anyone explain this shit?
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who are his neighbors?

Game: VanillaCataclysm
Turn number 10
Next turn due: 18:55 GMT on Monday October 24th

Barony of Black 2h file received
Bishopric of Brown 2h file received
Margraviate of Green 2h file received
Emirate of Grey 2h file received
Principality of Pink Waiting for 2h file
Beydom of Purple 2h file received
Empire of Red 2h file received
Khanate of White 2h file received
Autocracy of Aquamarine 2h file received
Bureucracy of Beige 2h file received
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>>158258893
Based Boksi
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>>158258893
>http://pastebin.com/4YsNQcjn
suggestions:
Renowned Harvard Mage
Red-headed lesbian elfs underwater
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>>158259772
ermor with an innovative strategy
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>>158259219
Those are two separate things - an aoe attack hitting the vamps (presumably dragonfire) then the ghost hitting the imps
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>>158259772
>>158260118
What do you know, >>158184451 was right. Well, I'll decide how to deal with this later. I don't want to completely ignore you, but there's still a good while until the export deadline so I'll just sleep on it for now.
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>>158260163
You can just edit the form to add more results. It already allows editing.
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>>158260132
Oh.
It seems to be dragonfire but dragonfire effect is broken for second turn (and only second turn) where it arrives much later than it supposed to be.
Still weird but not nearly as weird.
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>>158260163
Question - do you actually play Dominions?
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>>158260686
Been playing since Dom 3 and been posting here since the general was created. I only put my trip on for VGL stuff, though.
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>>158261112
That's cool. Do you still play in domg PBEMs?
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>>158261165
Yeah. I'm not the kind of person to play in many games simultaneously though, these days I limit myself to one or two at most to prevent burnout.

Also I'm still a scrub.
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R8 my Jomon Erf Snek.
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>>158261362
Its shit and you're shit. Take the plunge to H3, and pump his earthmagic so he doesn't get shat on. Also, go T2 and G3. Also also, consider taking him dormant if in summod.
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>>158261362
You somehow managed to fuck up the most generic, cookie-cutter pretender. Good fucking job.

>>158261496
The first part is right regarding the earth magic and scales. The 'dormant' suggestion is flat out wrong and defeats the purpose of taking the snek.
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>>158261362
Why/10
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>>158261584
This is the basic template for a Turmoil/Luck snake. You can get significantly more reliable income by switching to Misf 1, Mag 1, Order 3, but the T/L build is fun for Jomon since you can spend any gems that you get from it.
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>>158261584
Jomon has two purposes for taking a snake. One is improved expansion. With prod 3, they have solid expansion in summod. The second is getting underwater. They can do this with a dormant, too.
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OK, we're almost full, 1-3 more players before we start.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CanIntoHost

And the Steam page: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/340412122407955023/
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New thread
>>158263150
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