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/evn/ - English Visual Novels

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This thread is for the discussion of original English visual novels, as well as western visual novel development.

Do you have a question about a Japanese visual novel or a translation of it? /vn/ is ready to answer it. We are not them.

>Recommended reading:
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=olang-en.tagspoil-0;o=d;s=rating
http://pastebin.com/zGVSpH0B

>Resources for getting started as a developer:
http://pastebin.com/7LsCvtq3

>Guides for developers on all subjects:
https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewforum.php?f=42

>Ren'Py (visual novel development software):
http://www.renpy.org/

>Discord
https://discord.gg/T9ygPkz

>Previous thread:
>>157493034
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1st for selling out
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Did janitor go rogue again?
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>>157810314
These threads drop like mayflies even without the janitor's help.
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>>157810314
oh sweet summer child
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>tfw you make the final boss get all preachy and philosophical like an asshole
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>>157813648
hi CL
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>>157814081
that not me
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why is /evn/ so fucking dead? godddd
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>>157816491
I generally just write

When it comes time to code, I may or may not have questions
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>tfw you get distracted for an hour
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Reposting twintits, just because I like them.
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T...ten!
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How to dating sim?
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>>157824884
That reminds me... how's Seiyuu Danshi doing?
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>>157816491
because i started caring more about my love life than my vn
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>>157826394
I don't know...
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ded
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/evn/ please...
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>>157833851
I don't know why you insist. If there's no content/progress, let the thread die. When there is, bring it back. It was always like this, there is no need for /evn/ to be here every day.

Discord has been doing fine, too.
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>>157835085
fag
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discord is for queers (and not the cool kind of queers)
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>>157836980
you can continue to post on your own in a dying thread then with little in the way of content, whatever makes you happy
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>http://store.steampowered.com/app/432100
>4 more hours
They're making money while you circlejerking in discord.
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>>157835085
Being anon is why I come to 4chan. I'd rather not waste time making a fake discord and bouncing between it and my real one.
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>>157837154
and there's a lot of progress and news being posted in discord chat, right
it's already forming into a circlejerk with 2-3 people touching each other willies and talking about their inane blogshit
but sure, go back there and stop polluting /evn/, I approve
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>>157841897
I just joined and they're literally talking about progress there right now
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>>157842157
give it half an hour
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WAKE UP
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>>157846223
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>157846223
just let it die famu, we'll return when there's something fun to discuss
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>http://store.steampowered.com/app/493450/
>the most uninspired garbage ever
>still looks 99.99% better than EVN
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Has there ever been an evn kickstarter that delivered on the actual estimated time?
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>>157848863
What are you even comparing to? What is EVN?
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>>157848951
Catch Canvas? Art is shit btw
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>>157848951
most kickstarters of ANY sort don't make the date
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>>157849040
yeah the sprites are nice but most of the CG is really rushed. But people seem to lap it up anyway so they get away with it
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I tried to make a new visual outline for my game. A lot easier to see how things will go.
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>>157849094
I am just surprised at how many of them have delays because of health problems.
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>>157851059
They don't, they have delays because of alleged health problems.

Since you can't just tell someone to get healthier, but you sure can tell them off for being lazy sacks of shit, it's the go to answer. Most of those end up being "depression" or something else that can conveniently not affect people when they're feeling like working a little on something they got paid for.
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>>157850818
>All those stars
Looks gay
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Officerryou is a cuck
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>>157851410
Penises touch at one point during a threesome so that's pretty accurate
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>>157851858
Tell me more


No homo
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>>157851439
don't you have to have a gf before being a cuck
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>>157849040
Its original estimated release was July
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>>157851253
To be fair most creative types are fairly susceptible to mental problems
Even if sometimes the mental problem is a hangover
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>>157855781
All good writers are drunks.
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>>157859848
i-i don't drink...
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>>157860001
Then what does that make you?
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>>157851439
why?
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>>157860175
possessed of more brain cells?
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>>157862126
>implying you can use them
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>>157862417
you're implying that? thanks! so kind
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>>157864775
no
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>>157867083
:(
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>>157859878
>that giant ass wall of text
nah
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>>157870676
Can you not read?
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>>157870723
Didn't even attempt to. Ugly.
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>Negligee shilling in /v/

I mean...who the fuck did they hire for these?
They are fucking awful, and if they keep at it this shit will backlash with how blatant it is.
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>>157859878
>>157870812
It looks like default fucking mIRC font
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>>157871421
it's working

i'm still buttblasted he got an artist that good. his horrible games don't deserve her
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Created a bunch of animations.

What's the best way to use them? Don't mind uploading frame by frame if I have to, but hopefully there's a better way.
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>>157872810
For Renpy? Last time I checked, there isn't.
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>>157872810
movie sprites
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>>157871421
Is it actual shilling or bored trolling? /v/ often can't tell the difference
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I actually just came to this thread just to ask about Negligee >>157871421

Please tell me whatever I need to know about these guys, because my dick is urging me to buy it.
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>>157875817
wait for an upload.
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>>157875817
Play report on Negligee from /u/

>>2166526


>I have and I'd say I like it overall, the sex scenes are all great (they included a 69 and scissoring, both big favourites of mine) and they all have animated versions that you can revisit from the main menu, BUT my main complaint is actually reaching the sexy endings, referred to as epilogues, which there are supposedly 4 of, among the 11 different endings, the conditions to achieve each different ending is somewhat hard to grasp, I THINK, don't quote me on this but I think it seems to be on some kind of points system of netting each girls approval, but it's hard telling which dialogue choice are the right one for each girl and what effect they have on the the others without a shit ton of trial and error, most wind you up at the bad ending for supposedly not being able to choose one, I've yet to find the 11th ending and 4th epilogue despite combing the different combinations of dialogue choices, nothing seems to happen other then the usual bad end or hiring just one of the girls (which can lead to a specific bad end, or an epilogue, depending on how meany "right" dialogue choices you made) if anyone has managed to get epilogue 4 I'd love to know how, because those locked CG in the gallery are laughing at me and driving me fucking insane


As for the devs, they are scumbags in general who have been known to rip people off, but also randomly outsource crap to the point that there's really no way to know what you're getting with their games. It might look awful and have not-that-bad writing, it might look great and be execrable, it might have cover art that looks cool and interior art that looks like MSPaint.
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>>157875817
They run multiple kickstarters for the same project, raise tons of money, then release short half-baked games full of bugs that don't live up to promises and move on to the next one. They were caught extorting reviews out of their kickstarter backers by threatening to not release the rest of the game that they'd already paid for unless they got better ratings. They change their company name around to try and dodge their reputation.
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>>157876495
I laughed so hard when his reviews feel to mixed and negative after steam changed its policies on key reviews.
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>>157876824
Anyone who likes the games he makes are more likely to back them, so they're reviews don't count toward the review score.
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>>157878615
yeah keep telling yourself that
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>>157878615
by the way aj tilley is probably going to find some way to jew out of paying you for shilling for him
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>Cheap shitty porn sells well
What else is new? I mean Breeding Season was essentially just a bunch of badly scripted menus and concept art and it was making those guys like 40k a month despite them LITERALLY DOING NOTHING
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>>157883224
now marble syrup is going the same route.
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>>157883740
>>157883224

How can I bully /evn/ if I ever manage to become a based con man like Schwig and Inafune?

I mean I can't taunt you guys personally if I manage to trick people into wasting their autismbux on me, but I'd love to bully them.
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>>157883224
Selling people hope and change can be more lucrative than selling them actual products.
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>>157859848
I'm already a drunk, just gotta work on that writing part now.
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http://blog.mangagamer.org/2016/10/19/stargazers-character-intro/
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>>157886842
Is this game about the main character cucking people, or some degenerate poly shit?
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>>157889674
2 characters are in a relationship at the start and it ends with a poly relationship between them and the MC. Other characters have various relationships too.
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>>157890001
>poly relationship
why people do this?
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>>157890001
Why's he gotta ruin everything like this. He can't just have regular ol' lesbians, no, he's gotta add gigantic dongs to em all and make em engage in degenerate poly origes. Why can't everyone like what I like?
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>>157890731
Sometimes your true love is more than one person. And other times even if you have one true love, it's still fun to have sex with other people if you both agree it's okay. Such is a perfect relationship built on trust.
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>>157890969
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>>157890949
do they have dongs?
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>>157891684
Not in this game.
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>>157891684
Not that I can see, but they might have those magical hidden dongarydoos that spring right outta the hoohaa.
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>>157891784
don't lie to us tao
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>>157891862
Stargazers was advertised as purely yuri.
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>>157891862
Do you think he's CLove?
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post ART
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>>157896416
nah
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>>157896416
why
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>>157896416
>under NDA

Fuck....
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where's the negligee torrent?
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>>157907649
where's ladykiller torrent?
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$$$$$$
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>>157910958
Where?
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>>157911849
Here:
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/432100/
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/493450/
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>>157892114
I think he has his own fixations and issues. Don't we all?
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How much did you lose on your failed VN /evn/?
And why 90% of the time its the artist fault?
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>>157917614
>And why 90% of the time its the artist fault?

Is it?
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>>157917705
It is
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>>157917614
I got a good gossip around a certain very, VERY popular artist in EVN scene that went MIA on a certain project and all of the suddenly appeared with a different project with different dev.
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>>157917614
>paying for scam
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>>157917904
if you got why don't you give?
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>>157917904
Yeah sure nerd
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>>157917614
As an artist, I can safely say that artists are torture to work with since a lot of them are emotionally unstable, whiny, entitled fuckers who get off on likes and retweets. Usually they're pretty unreliable to stay interested in a project too unless you're paying them out of your ass.
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>>157917904
You can't say that and then not drop a name.
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>>157920118
Post your art, artist.
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>>157920118

>Translation: The artist I brought onto my project wouldn't draw my horrific fetishes for free, and insisted on being paid due to being the sole reason anyone will buy my shitty game.
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Should Wurzel get her own route?
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>>157925508
Absolutely, the lewdest one.
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>>157925508
You mean she doesn't already? What the heck are you thinking man.
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>>157925585
>>157925610

She doesn't. Forgive me.
old art
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How many words should a average VN have?
And around how many words do anons can write at day?
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>>157927590
Replace "words" with "tits"
and "write" with "draw"
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upload almost done
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>>157930349
Doing gods work, anon!
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>>157930349
>those bodies
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>>157930349
What's behind that textbox?
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>>157930349
Freaking nice.
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>>157930349
one tilde is bad enough but two is delving into madness.

AJ Tilleyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>157927590
do you want to rephrase that in english
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>>157930349
IS IT UP!?
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>>157934725
chill dude, he said he was uploading.
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>>157934725
>>157934839
I'm still working on it, MEGA is being a bitch.
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>>157934725
you could always play sweet volley high instead
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>>157937131
>have to fug a dude to get to a lesbian route
>two of the female routes are ambiguous to it not working out

death to EVN
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>>157937131
yeah, enjoy that sweet, sweet yuri guys
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>take month long break
>come back and crank out the art that i was stuck on the first try
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>>157938087
only you said it was yuri
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>>157940381
them and the devs, apparently
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>>157937514
what's the matter, too REAL for you?
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>>157941874
death to bisluts
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>>157942246
they're at that age where it's cool to be bi, too.

Teehee I got sooooo drunk and kissed my best friend I'm totally bi
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>>157940815
no, the devs said it was yuri + otome. even /u/ admits that.
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>>157942309
this kills the /u/
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>>157942632
>+otome
>meaning you have to get dicked to get to one yuri route, and two of the yuri routes default to bad ends
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>>157942885
There is one Yuri good end and one otome good end. It's balanced, but making the other 2 Yuri routes bad ends was a dumb idea.
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>>157943667
>It's balanced
>the one guy gets a good end + action on other routes
>but only one of the female routes good ends
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I like games.
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>>157948249
wew, what are you doing on 4chan then
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>>157935012

so this guy was bullshitting, right?
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>>157951538
if he was why do you even care? you're that desperate to play an aj tilley game?
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~stupid pretentious bullshit~
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>>157952387
I like her yukata but not her face
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>>157953269
she has a bad case of bonkiru down syndrome
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What did you guys do for your first project? I want to make something for experience and so I can say I've actually done something, but all my ideas are too grand and ambitious. At the same time, I feel like if I'm not super excited about my idea I'll just stop halfway through.
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>>157953791
>google bonkiru
>his DA
jesus that's one angry guy
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>>157954129
>dat rant
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>>157954693
how does he still get work
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>“Love, Money, Rock’n’Roll” will have sprite animations!
Well damn.
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>>157957787
>tfw you just want to have blinking and mouth movement

How do I mouth movement on text while not having it on "..."
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ayy
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>>157965565
NO ANSWER MY QUESTION
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>>157968585

what did he mean by this?
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>>157968585
reply hazy, try again
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>>157938087
A-anon, could you please post uncropped picture to imgur?
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>>157968585
If your question is >>157961306, I couldn't understand it
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>>157974531
How do I make mouths move on text but specifically make them not move on "..." as the line being spoken
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>>157975479
have a custom sprite for that line?
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>>157975931
I wanted to avoid having to do that but I guess that's the only real way
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>Between this, Negligee, and Catch Canvas, I've rubbed myself raw!
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>>157979675
I wonder what all the normies must think of all of these scantily clad anime babes littering the front page right now
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>>157979767
what a pebble thinks as the flood rushes towards it
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>>157891845
Those are the worst.
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>>157981780
I don't see the problem really

It's a fictional universe
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>tfw Steam may accept loli one day
One can only hope, anyway, do I start writing the story or doing the art?
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>>157984948
move to japan
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>>157984948
Lolis are NOT for lewds, you degenerate.
They are strictly for cutes.
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>>157930349
I can easily see the huniepop in the sprites, but the cgs are so much better.
The bodies on those sprites are pretty fucked up.
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>>157952387
Why is it so hard for people to subscribe to the "Keep it simple, stupid" mantra? Not only is it easier to write, it's way more enjoyable to read.
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i sit atop my mountain of gold, fuming
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Why don't EVNs have good writing a lot of the time?

This is not an EVN vs JVN competitive question
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>>157984948
I like that bulge
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>>157990831
Rules are made to be broken B I T C H
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>>157996048
what have you played?
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>>157996048
Because currently all you need is anime titties and you are fine.
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>Cg of dildo going inside girl asshole
>writing outright refuses to mention the word asshole, anus, butt, etc

what's with this?
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>>157999556
writer's a pussy
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>>157999628
it's kind of hilarious in something like dungeon where girls are shoving dildo's as thick as their arms into eachother's pussies, or a girl is putting anal beads up her ass in negligee, and the guy is like "orifices... entrance... sacred place"
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>>157999820
NO

LAUGH AT MY JOKE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>157999969
it wasn't very good. i'd score it about what i'd score negligee
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>>158000195
Fuk u
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>>158000335
apply yourself
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>>157996048
Why don't visual novels in general have good writing?
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>>158001647
Just you wait. I'm doing my best.

Speaking of which,
>tfw you shatter the fourth wall to pieces and are completely unapologetic about it, then lock the player off from being able to do it again
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>>157999556
It's pretty easy to be lewd with the art, but when you sit down and try to write it out, saying pussy, asshole, cock, etc. just feels like garbage writing somehow.
Probably depends on the quality of the scene. If it's kinky sex purely for the sake of kinky sex, then whatever.
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>>158001909
>tfw you shatter the fourth wall
Just like a true Harem Protagonist
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>>158005008
It feels so good, you don't even understand.

I berate the player for acting so selfishly and then trap them in a jump loop so that they have to reload to when they made the choice, and when they do that the option that put them on that path is no longer available.

It is the best shit.
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>>158005079
>believing anyone is going to bother reloading after that
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>>157952387
What's pretentious about it?
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>>158005079
So like that something something kanojo game by Nitroplus?

Meta shit like that comes across as really corny and not particularly clever, but maybe that's just me.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/539670/

>you will never shit out stuff every month for autism bux
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>>158010048
>every month
More like every 10 days.
But why? It looks like they are competing with themselfs
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>>158012946
it's not like it's even hurting anyone at this point, sakurashit is exactly what normies think all visual novels are about
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>>157996048
>>157997561
Anime titties and good writing generally don't go together because the fanservice overpowers any sort of plot and makes it about the boobs instead of what is going on.
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>>158015229
How would I know if your writing is good, if you won't lure me with tiddies?
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>>158015229
Incorrect. A good writer can interweave the fanservice with the plot.
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How much do people usually charge for proof reading an story?
Also how much lewd does Steam allow a VN to be?
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>>158015229
So if I put a good book together with tits it instantly becomes shit? No, right? It's just anime tiddy on a good plot.

Don't try and excuse incompetent people and market standards with made-up rules, it's unbecoming.
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>>158010048
Another Sakura game? Are their stories even long and interesting or people like it just for the anime tiddies?
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>>158015827
I don't think steam has something against lewd ayyliens.
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>>158016274
>tfw everything is ayy for /evn/

Are the Sakura games not ayy for ya?
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>>158015935
>Are their stories even long and interesting
what have you been smoking if you think that words like
>interesting
>long
>stories
apply to sakura games?
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>>158016635
No.
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>>158016758
in sakura nova's case they're trying to make a big deal out of how the story is twice as long as normal, because of glorious japanese writer who can do no wrong

I feel like they even made exceptions for them, considering one of the girls looks older than the others which I'm sure is a first, and the male MC is more prominent in some CG shots
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>>158016758
So everyone is just for the tiddies, should be easy for any of you to make money with just that then.
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>>158016964
Weren't the other Sakura games like 2~3 hours long?
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>>158016802
Show me something that is not ayy then, that will not stop me from drawing ayy faces, though.
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>>158017000
you have to have a good artist comfortable with drawing lots of titties and those are rare and/or expensive (shit art would sell for much less even if there's a tit being thrown at you every damn second. Targeting a fetish niche is the only way then, but it's a much less safe option than good ol well-drawn tiddy).
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>>158017000
Looks like Winged Cloud/Sekai Project is going to get bitched at again, because people are posting Sakura Nova's porn scenes on Steam again.
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>>158017145
Sakura games.
I think you misunderstood my 'no'.
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>>158017496
So you buy their games?
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>>158017074
yeah like 30/40,000 words long on average, so boasting that it's double that isn't really that impressive. But if it means they crammed in more CG I guess people will be happy
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kek sakura games aren't lasting very long on the popular new releases page anymore. Nova was barely there for a day. Maybe it'll fluctuate?
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>>158018353
It didn't have very many reviews either.
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>>158018353
they're really cranking them out way too fast
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Wasn't some anon uploading Negligee or was I imagining things?
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>>158017831
>implying vns are games
I'm still waiting for ladykiller and negligee mega links.
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Ah nevermind.

http://extratorrent.cc/torrent/5243421/Negligee.html

Don't know if it has the adult content patch included.
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>>158019159
>Yuri

Fuck.
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so i was wondering why negligee had such random choices to get the good ends. turns out they sell a walkthrough as part of DLC.

what is this, the 90s?
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>not config, not options, not settings, not even configs
>PREFS
FUCKING PREFS. SAKURA GAMES HAVE GONE TOO FAR. ITS TIME TO STOP.
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>>158023098
At least it's not pervs.
>>
ow
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How's Sakura Nova?
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>>158028824
its prose puts Dostoyevsky to shame
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>>158028995
>muh prose

writers are scum
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>>158030064
I want to cum on /evn/ writers!
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>>158028995
As expected of a Japanese writer.
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>>158017934
Wow, can't believe they get away with that, how much do they even charge for each one? $10?
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Remember it's not content that matters, it's word count that determines game quality!
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>>158030242

Yeah bby gimme the love
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does anyone find the faces on razz's characters to be just generally unsettling
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>>158037826
my 800k masterpiece will earn me enough that I can retire before I'm 30
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>>158008348
It doesn't last long and it's very intentional and blatant

It's more of a "stop dicking around, you won't get anywhere with that attitude" diversion than anything
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Today's the day I'm finally going to finish writing the first chapter of my story after agonizing for an entire year over one fucking scene. What's everyone else up to?
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>>158048910
Killing myself.
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>>158048910
What's your story about and do you have any art to share with fellow anons?
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>>158048910
trying to fix my sleep schedule so I can have more energy to work on things
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Post progress
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>>158037826
Sorry, Sakura, your content isn't quality.
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>>158055234
I am almost at the end and I only have one (potentially two) proofreaders for something that is probably about 20 hours long

Gonna be great
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>>158056257
Is this your first? Why go with something so huge? It better be good.
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>>158058158
Yes

Because I needed to

I think it will be
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Any new EVNs come out in the last few months?
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>mfw playing EVNs
>mfw "The game's great, it's 30+ hours long."
>mfw it's all fucking fluff and filler and 10% story progression.
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>>158059381
RIP
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>>158058383
Yes
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>>158059045
liar, there are no 30+ hour long evns
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>>158060434
i left my trip on from another thread forgive me
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>>158060685
What about that old awful one, doppelganger or something
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>>158060685
What about that old awful one, doppelganger or something
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>>158060685
There will be if the Russian succeed with their campaign.
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are you guys doing this more for the money or thrill of hoeing animu girls?
I'm considering both, now that I'm a serious writer.
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>>158059045
>EVNs
>all fucking fluff and filler and 10% story progression.

True.

Related: A better love story than Katawa Shoujo, with 2% of the assets and 98% shorter in length.
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All of you complaining about muh shit EVN writing should check this one out.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/463390/
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>>158063872
>True.
Not really, it's more true of JVNs in my experience. EVNs have a tendency to rush through plot at a breakneck pace in comparison.

Not knocking picture related though.
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>>158063872
Once in a while I see a screencap from this "update" and it fills me with sadness that DG won't ever get a full remake.
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officer a butch cucko
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>>158065037
I quit the discord after seeing officer. What garbage.
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>>158063872
Dandy Girl has all the components necessary for a successful game. It blows my mind that it's following is so tiny.
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>>158065037
She's cute.
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>>158065524
>It blows my mind that it's following is so tiny.

It's not really advertised anywhere.
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>>158065253
John? Is that you?
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>>158065742
>>158066078
Is this officer? You fucking degenerate. Get back to your buttugly fag chat.
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>>158062274
I love me some filthy lucre
it's easier to get than pussy :(
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>>158066327
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>>158065524
Ugly art.
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>Catch Canvas got $13,481 on kickstarter
>Asked for $3000

So, after having a look at the completed project I'm going to guess the original plan without any additional money would have been the main menu, 10 minutes of story, and the credits?
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>>158069114
Guess you weren't prepared for the catch
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>>158069114
They gain so much yet right now they are having issue paying their artist for their current project.
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>>158070010
>that 3rd world engrish
Are you their artist? Do you want to share some juicy details?
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>>158070509
I wonder how buttblasted would SJWs be if I start a loli VN and put it on Steam.
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>>158073667
Not as your ass would be blasted literally in jail by the other inmates if you're American.
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>>158073941
Loli isn't illegal in the U.S. yuropoor.
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>>158073667
not enough ayyyyyy VNs
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>>158074036
Might want to brush up on your legal knowledge, there are precedents for loli being treated as CP. Tip: Missouri, 2012.
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>>158073941
America isn't Britain.
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>>158074676
And the Supreme Court's ruling isn't always seen as canon in many states.
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>>158074574
That's if you have actual CP with your loli.
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>>158074574
>Missouri, 2012
Anon, he can use a computer. That means he isn't black. Which in turn means he doesn't live in Missouri.
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>>158074805
Nope, Christian Bee had only loli. Proceed at your own risk,aware that you're going to be giving Steam your name, address and bank account information.
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>>158074857
Well, he's thinking of doing something very risky in a public place with high visibility knowing it will upset people. That is very black.
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>>158074969
He was a dumbass who shouldn't have settled.
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>>158075182
He would have been convicted if he didn't, and appealing to the Supreme Court could have saved him then, but now Scalia isn't around anymore so I would not advise anyone to try their luck.
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>>158074805
CP?
Like real girls?
Who does that?
2D is way better
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>>158075361
I suppose you are right, still, people getting upset about lewd drawings is kinda stupid.
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>>158075537
Very. But that's America. Where violence is okay but sex is bad.
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>>158075631
And that's something that triggers me, why something is actually normal and part of life is bad and something violent and gory is acceptable?
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>>158076706
>why is part a of life considered bad
>and part b of life not
Ancient aliens, most likely.
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>http://cdn1-images.nutaku.com/images/manage/games/no-one-but-you/screenshot6.jpg

why is this allowed
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>>158079639
Because it's hilarious?
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>>158079639
Where did the guy's legs go
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>>158079639
There's absolutely no reason to zoom out that much.
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>>158079910
>>158080115
>>158081998
>no comments about the literal salami with 4x as much detail as the rest of the pic
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>>158073941
I find it kind of funny people always bring up America being the country that'll get you fucked over for loli content, when it's pretty much the only first world country that won't, aside from Japan.
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>>158083349
>paying attention to dick

GAY!
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>>158079639
How did they even draw it that way to begin with? Everything looks like it's been drawn separately before being horribly composited together.
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>>158079639
Dude needs to lay off the fuckin saturation filter, goddamn my fuckin eyes hurt after seeing that. That complete fuckery of anatomy don't help none either.
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Feedback? Anything I could do to improve this sketch?
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>>158091605
I'm not sure if Tallbraidgirl's eyes are situated appropriately, specifically her left one

Both of Tallbraidgirl's legs seem to be at an odd angle as well

Girl on the right (our right, not hers) also seems to have an odd angle on her left leg
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>>158091605
Why you post so rarely?
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>>158091975

I believe the Artist is imitating the more bowlegged look which is considered attractive in Japan. But as a filthy baka gaijin you wouldn't understand.
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>>158091975
Noted.

>I'm not sure if Tallbraidgirl's eyes are situated appropriately, specifically her left one

Anime face is hard anon.

>>158092064
Work stuff, not even sure if I am allowed to post that now that I think about it.
Got my feedback, gonna delete that just to be safe.
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>>158091605
>>158093283
>Error: You cannot delete a post this old.
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>>158093478
you'll never work in this town again
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>>158093478
That's what you get for not posting cute milfs/
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>>158093716
Since when have they ever?
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>>158093770
Since before summer.
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>>158093846
why are your lines so chicken scratchy?
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there are people, right now, who haven't played 7KPP
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>>158094902
Me

I did not do that
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>All the good stuff isn't in English
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
https://vndb.org/v7848
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>>158095537
>breasts

fucking gross
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>>158094902
It's just a demo right? When is the full thing even supposed to come out.
And no matter how much that probably one person keeps saying the writing is so good, the art is hideous.
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>>158095937
>probably one person
the fanbase on tumblr is staggering and it's only a demo
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>>158096761
Well probably one person that keeps bringing it up in this thread.
And I wouldn't really trust the tumblr audience when it comes to judging quality writing because they are starved for any english otome.
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>>158094457
Lack of fundamental training, tunnel vision etc.
I need help from tons of stroke to help me shape things and connect the dot.

>>158093846
Really? I've been posting progress regularly. You might not recognize it due to the different style I've employed.
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>>158097056
have you even played it?
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>>158097512
no, because the art is hideous and the screenshots and character profiles on vndb don't make it look that amazing.
Maybe I'll give it a try, but I doubt it's all it's been hyped up to be.
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>>158060685
>>158061492
Chronotopia too if they're funded
> Branching story with around 10 endings and 30 hours of playtime!
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>>158073667
SJWs aren't your main problem, it's FPS fans who run around accusing every VN on steam of being pedophile porn.
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>>158098618
>quoting kickstarter promises as if they were facts
anon...
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Holy shit!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nixhydra/the-arcana-visual-novel

>$30K
>literally who dev
>no video, shitty description
>we're making a game for girls teehee so unique!
>mobile only
>episodic
>YOU DON'T GET THE GAME FOR PLEDGING
>http://www.nixhydra.com/credibilitycorner/
>our company has more than $5.6M in funding
J U S T
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>>158104278
> Various restrictions in various app stores limit our ability to offer the game to Kickstarter backers

Lmao at this.
Such a shittily run campaign, I hope it crashes and burns.
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>>158104278
>>YOU DON'T GET THE GAME FOR PLEDGING
Is this even allowed under kickstarter rules?
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>>158104662
Just my two cents but I've ported several projects on Google Play and the system is such a mess, giving away the game for free is nearly impossible. Never tried the App Store but it wouldn't surprise me if it were the same...
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>>158108713
Shouldn't it be possible to give out a watermarked .apk file to their supporters?
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>>158108713
I don't know much about the app store but I've heard of TestFlight being used to give out games at least
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>>158109356
You could use also use a simple token system for one-time use codes in their app, allowing their backers to claim access.
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>>158108713
Afaik devs can give keys to redeem a game for free from the App Store. I redeemed a couple games this way. It's not intuitive where to input the key, but it's possible.
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>>158104278
Downloaded the prologue. You can select your pronouns under settings, including "they/them".
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>>158110658
this is the future we didn't choose but have to live in anyway
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>>158110658
Longstory also did this, it's not exactly a new thing for SJW games on mobile.

>>158110760
Don't call it a grave.
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>>158110783
>it's not exactly a new thing for SJW games on mobile.
A truly inclusive game would let you define your own pronoun set.
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>>158117073
Now I will try to guess your game...
World of Warships?
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>>158117479
Yeah, sorry.
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>>158019159
only torrent? or have i missed someone posting a megalink?
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I'm so lonely :'<
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>>158101352
I was replying to the anon who said Love, Money, Rock'n'Roll would be 30h+. If one Kickstarter campaign counts, why not the other then?

When it comes to promises though,I'd be actually inclined to trust the Chronotopia dev given how long their demo is... Anyone here has played it BTW?
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>>158109356
You could always give a separate APK that doesn't work on Google Play but that's not very satisfying, I guess.

>>158110239
If it's possible to do that, I wanna know how; it might help me for future releases! I wish Google Play was more beginner-friendly: just making a dev profile there is so needlessly complicated and confusing...
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>>158122204
>Chronotopia
Looking at the screenshots, shouldn't the SJWs be all over this? How has it not been funded yet?
>>
Is Ladykiller in a Bind any good or just jerk-off material if you're into queer anime bondage?

I liked Digital and Analogue a lot when they came out but kind of missed Hate Plus and lost track of CLove's work since then. Anybody who played those care to weigh in?
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>>158122663
maybe because SJW don't play games
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>>158123002
>just jerk-off material if you're into queer anime bondage
it's not even all queer or consensual
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>>158122663
stop believing in conspiracy theories, there is no magic formula that will make all the supposed-SJWs come give you money.

some people have a lot of Queere Feministe Gamer Friends with money, some don't.
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>>158123002
What's your opinion on games that try to talk like modern youth, ala We Know The Devil?
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>>158123002
Hate plus is decent but felt inferior to Analogue. While Analogue tried to add at least a bit of unusual stuff to the usual VN formula, Hate+ is just a regular VN that complains if you don't stop playing for the day when it wants you to.

Haven't tried ladykiller and I think Christian hasn't done anything other than these two since analogue.
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>>158123159

That's not a negative at least

>>158123435

Depends on how many memes I actually recognise. Never played WKTD

>>158123535

That's about what I heard about Hate+ around it's release which killed the hype a bit for me
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>>158124093
It's not so much about the memes as the casual nature and grammar which really pisses some people off who are used to more formal writing. From what I can tell Ladykiller uses a good bit of that writing style.

As far as innovation goes the only thing I know about is that it does the dialog thing where you have choices about whether to interject or let the conversation continue, and your possible interjections fade out when they're no longer relevant to the current conversation. Oxenfree did a similar thing, though it's not a VN of course.
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>>158123002
i honestly could barely get aroused by it. the writing is too focused on trying to sound SMART and AWARE, vs actually being sexy.
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Guess I can uninstall this now.
There doesn't even seem to be that many H scenes.
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>>158108713
I was laughing less at the difficulty, and more at the idea of using ks to fund a game for platforms they've no idea how to give games for.
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>>158128837
>No DFC yet again, of course
>Smallest option is something like a c cup

Is it that fucking hard to add one waifu per bust size?
>>
oy vey
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>>158129568
>playing a tit game for dfc

that's like playing het games for yuri
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So, with the use of FFMPEG I made some webm movie sprites for Renpy since the internal animation function and ATL was being too slow.

Now I use def callback(event, **kwargs):
if event == "show":
renpy.music.play("Type.ogg", channel="sound")
elif event == "slow_done" or event == "end":
renpy.music.stop(channel="sound")

to make beeps play along with the scrolling text and then stop when the text is finished/rushed through, can I do a similar operation with a movie sprite?

Right now my movie sprites are defined as image Protag talk = Movie(channel="Protag",
play="talk.webm",
mask="talk_mask.webm")

They come up easy enough(though I do have to position them like a seperate character), but they keep looping. I want the loop to stay but only until the dialog is finished/clicked on.
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>>158132873
the desperate will do anything
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>>158122663
My best bet would be that it's not "in your face" enough. Like there isn't the word "queer" written all over the project. Plus the dev probably don't have friends in high places like Clove do (for example).

And believe it or not but some SJW can be racists too; it doesn't help.
>>
i finished two inks this morning
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>>158135556
Super in your face shit also fails (often because it's so dreadful even the fangrrls aren't interested). The friends are more important.
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>>158135556
>And believe it or not but some SJW can be racists too; it doesn't help.
It's all about being racist and bigoted towards the right people, if you haven't noticed.

>>158137272
>The friends are more important
So you have to suck CLoves 9cm clitoris if you want to have publicity?
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what if i told you SJW are a bunch of poorfag pirates who think armchair activism makes a difference?
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>>158137806
What if I told you /v/ is a bunch of poorfag pirates who think their opinions about great game design matter?
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>>158137739
You'd be better off skipping the whore and going straight to the patrons.
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>>158122663
Can't tell what it's about from the art, title, or description. Aside from being something with princesses, which isn't a hook. Also unappealing art if they're trying to go the lewd route.
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>>158138768
I'd tell you about Dead or Alive Volleyball
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>>158140006
But isn't it the kind of ugly tumblr likes so much?
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>>158133396
nigga, quality will be shit.
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>>158141025
What quality specifically?
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>>158143217
make more
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>>158141684
that movie sprite will be pixelated as fuck
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>>158143217
this is why it's a bad idea to associate your real life self with your company social media accounts if you're making adult games
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>>158144417
someone will upload a picture of you to 4chan? big deal
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>>158143538
Doing it right now, arming myself with more ammo.
It hurts to live. This fucker makes the girls say hehehe ~ every other sentence.
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>>158144809
this looks physically painful to read through. I can't imagine sitting through an entire game of it
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>>158144809
:)
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>>158144809
ideally we should have these dank maymays for every porn EVN writer and arrange them into a wall
fuck I didn't save that one with raithfyre
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>>158145168
>>158145186
The things I do to make OC
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>>158145995
>~giggle~

so he swaps between heeheheheeh and writing the giggle out in ~actions~? Where is the consistency reeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>158145440
I made that too
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>>158145440
>raithfyre
you mean JKappaA&Wrootbeer
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>>158145995
>cum
>yuri
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>>158146168
>>158145995
these made me physically ill
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>>158146361
One more to go
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>>158147794
>>158146168
How does it feel to be amerifat?
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>>158146168
Honestly those lines are nowhere near as bad as that hehehe garbage.
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>>158149356
Both made me cringe myself into scoliosis
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annnd its ogre
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Bonus: This is the conversation that takes place after FeMC catching her "girlfriend" fucking a guy.
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>>158150278
Nobody ~giggles~, at least. I guess that's an improvement?
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>>158150278
so this is what the plebeian masses like
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>>158151214
this game has been received awfully
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>>158151297
oh alright, there's hope for humanity yet
also does this guy write things himself? I was under the impression he hires writers for his VNs.
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>>158151297
based off yuri fans, who don't actually matter when it comes to money? it's being sold on nutaku and hasn't been released on steam.
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>>158151214
nobody has to cater to /u/
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>>158151297
>this game has been received awfully
How have the sales been? Everybody hates the transformers movies and they're still earning billions.
>>
what the fuck kind of CG is this
>>
>>158152058
She's clearly using her telekinetic powers to levitate the ball.

Come on, Anon.
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>>158152058
3rd world artists become too expensive and they're now hiring people in hell.
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>>158152015
came out around the same time as catch canvas/negligee so badly, I assume
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>>158149891
Should've used this pic
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>>158152058
>commission artist to draw you nice pic
>takes up 10% of a stock background
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>>158152813
my eyes burned from that
no
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>>158153150
>commission artist to draw you nice pic
>recive picture
>artist cannot into anatomy
>or motion
>I cannot into business
>no money to hire a competent artist to redo it
>Quick, let's throw it on some nice stock image, maybe it'll distract people at least a bit
>Another step taken towards revolutionizing visual novels
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>>158149862
my writing will probably end up looking like this

i dont care. i wont be a brown prose pleb
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>>158153797
brown > purple any day of the fucking week
but go ahead, do your superior purple prose, i'll use it to make more dank maymays
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>>158154083
im goign to make the purplest prose that's ever been
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i just made the nicest CG i've ever done but you people are too scary to share it with
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>>158154162
send it to me in private anon
i'll give you my throwaway email
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>>158154162
you do realize you're just antagonizing everyone with this kind of attitude, right
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>>158152813
that cat knows everything
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>>158154683
can you really blame me
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>>158155039
yes, stop being a pussy
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ruh roh
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How do I insert good descriptions without going into full overflower mode?
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How the heck do you get the perfect ending in Negligee?

I thought that after getting all the endings and epilogues it would've been unlocked if I dressed them in underwear, but apparently it didn't.

Any help?
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>>158162279
theres some guide in /u/
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>>158162279
my dude, there's a 3 dollar walkthrough that'll tell you exactly how :^)
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>>158162279
- don't read the letters
None of the next choices matter until you can choose to work in lingerie
- do so
- lace undies
- unicorn trainer
- giver
- experimental
- sweet and gentle
- witch costume
- basic lingerie
- fight
- go for a meal
- tell them you like girls
- original
- pick the bottom three choices (matching lingerie, swimsuit, silk teddy) in any order
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>>158162487
Delete this right now.

You are literally stealing from the poor Negligee dev who GRACIOUSLY provided a walkthrough at next to no cost.
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>>158162487
cheers man.
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>>158150278
This is why /u/ didn't like the vn. It felt way too real life for them.
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>>158149862
WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THAT DOORWAY?
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>>158163168
Alright, I checked the (now complete) CG collection for any missed stuff, and I cannot get over of the copy and paste she did for the bonus endings.

It shouldn't bother me that much, BUT IT DOES.

webm spoils 3 CGs I guess, but they are not plot related.
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Any ways to make a movie(highlighted text) behave like the sound code written above?
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>>158164551
it's collapsing in on itself because the vehicle has achieved warp 10
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>>158164627
Also I forgot to mention: Fuck their grammar.
English is not my native language, but even I know when to use "your" and "you're".
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>>158164985
when they have spelling errors on the screenshots they're advertising their game with, you know it's going to be bad
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>>158165641
your wrong its fine
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>>158165641
i'm 90% sure the script was written by an ESL. the writing is insultingly bad compared to the CG
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>>158166490
probably found the cheapest writer he could after how much he spent on the art to balance things out
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>>158162001
Write something the reader would want to read. Not self-flattering prose or infodumps on subjects they don't care about. Figure out what it is about this description that someone would want to hear.
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:0
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Anyone else decide to do something for the yuri jam?
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:O
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No! Not tonight!
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>>158176753
Isn't it over?
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I just want to have friends to cuddle and develop games together :'(
That's the only reason why I'm bumping this dead thread.
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>>158187817
There's another week left
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>>158190741
>cuddle
But if we cuddle we won't be able to make games :'<
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>finally get around to coloring the base for this in a quick and dirty style without even linearting it because I want it to be something I can do far faster than usual
>looks better than I thought it would
>compare it to the art for my main project that takes me way, way longer
>the realization that I like this more feels like a cold, clammy dick slapping me across the face
aaaaaaaaaa
Drawing is suffering. Never do it. Even improving can make you miserable. Just keep writing and paying others to slog through this garbage for you.
I am so sad right now.
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>>158193292
At least you have projects to work on.
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>>158194072
They're my own and they're probably not going to make me any money.
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>THAT FEEL WHEN YOU CAN'T REACH YOUR GOAL
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>>158197541
That goal sounds absurd.
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>>158197541
>80 fucking backgrounds

Yeah right.
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>>158197541
Well if they just copypaste routes and count small edits to backgrounds/cgs
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>>158198383
>80 fucking backgrounds made by arsenixc
fixed for you.
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>>158197541
why are they promising things like animated sprites in the base funding goal?

Shouldn't those be stretch tier goals or something?
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>>158200412

Things like these always make me wonder how much the team was planning to pocket.
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>>158200412
Fun fact:
Animated sprites was a stretch goal (55k I believe)
Obviously, it's a scam project now.
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>>158200558
the all caps additions to the description reeks of desperation at this point, throwing out whatever promises they can to try and claw their way up to the funding goal
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Statistics:

The game contains 6,117 dialogue blocks, containing 47,299 words and 254,327
characters, for an average of 7.7 words and 42 characters per block.

The game contains 28 menus, 713 images, and 80 screens.
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>>158140006
> Can't tell what it's about from the art, title, or description.
> Title: A Dark Fairytale Visual Novel
> Description: A dark retelling of the fairytale Donkeyskin
Are you blind, anon?
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>>158203886
Perhaps he's just uncultured
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>>158203886
>it's a French fairytale
>they're black
hue
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>>158204527
>A dark retelling
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>>158204527

> it's a retelling
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>>158204786
if it's not word for word the original old-fashioned french it's all wrong
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>>158205089
This kind of bait has never been funny.
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>>158203886
I was talking about the title Chronotopia, which I guess means "time place", but that sounds sci-fi. I don't think everyone would immediately know what Donkeyskin is the way they would with Cinderella or Little Red Riding Hood.
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>>158204784
>>158204786
I meant it's fitting since there's a lot of black people in France (including franks themselves according to /pol/)
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>>158204784
fucking kek
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>>158208240
i still want my futa drow
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>https://www.patreon.com/marblesyrup
>$17000 per month
>only released two games to date

why
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>>158208832
at least they released something, compared to the disaster of breeding season

and yet people flocked right over to the new project from that same artist
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>>158208832
m8, they were earning $30k at their peak
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>>158208832
just fucking end me right here fampai
apparently targeting newgrounds teens was a right choice for them
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>>158208832
>only released two games to date
>2016
>releasing something
We need to teach them how to flop and scam.
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>>158210147
they're already way ahead of you what's with stolen "we totally got permission except we didn't" JVN nukige assets and all
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>>158210352
But they are still releasing something!
That's not how things work with patreon!
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>>158208832
>17k dollarydoos per month
>one game in progress has promising sprites
>the other one mediocre
>nowhere on the page it says how much money goes towards the development
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abunai
>>
https://sovietgames.itch.io/love-money-rocknroll

did anyone play the demo?
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>>158215930
Yes, it's a scam.
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>>158216303
wat
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>>158205395
It's because it was originally planned as a series: 1 game = 1 fairytale. So yeah "Chronotopia" does not make sense in relation to Donkeyskin but it might as a concept? I guess it was chosen for a reason.
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Speaking of Chrono, I like how the demo ended.
With the princess being forced to travel back through time to avoid being killed
I was expecting the heroine to be such a special snowflake and she’s just coldly buried alive. That face is actually funny.
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So, this is out in Early Access. I wonder how much of a mess it is.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/529100/
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>>158219507
Dev is whiny bitch, he was here few month ago.
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>>158217916
Ok, that makes more sense.
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>>158219507
This is why most VN didn't add crowd in the background.
Unless you know what you're doing, it'll look weird with the scaling and shit.
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>>158219507
>those wobbling sprites
oh my god
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>>158222374
they wobble?
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>>158222374
>thought it would some mediocre, odd breathing kinda wobbling before watching the vids in the steam
>it actually look worst as if they were made of gas, levitating and rotating
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>>158222374
oh god why

that song too
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>>158227378
> incubus boy

as opposed to what? an incubus girl?
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>>158227495
Succubus (male)
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>>158227378
i really hate this art style.
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>>158228058
I love the art style but I wish she hadn't made ANNOYING ALL CAPS FONT part of her signature. I never play any of the games because they make my eyes hurt to read.
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>>158228162
It looks obnoxiously written too if one of the choices actually has "??" on it

who does that
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https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/sovietgames/love-money-rocknroll/#chart-daily

An hour ago it was at 19k, but then one person donated 6k.
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>>158229317
Same with Chronotopia a couple weeks ago.
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>>158222690
skip about halfway into the video
I guess it's more of a sway-wobble thing
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>>158229317
It's Ritochka trying to bail his project out.
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hanako what game are you working on now?
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>>158234569
the magical diary boyside supposedly, but mostly i'm having a breakdown, or a midlife crisis, or something. you?
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>>158234952
ok thanks, i was just curious since i dont browse your forums
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I know it's grammatically incorrect to use "-ed" verbs and "-ing" verbs in the same sentence but it's okay sometimes right

r-right
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>>158243412
Example?
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>>158244297
if I had to come up with one on the spot, how about

"His hands danced along the keys, fingers trailing behind."
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>>158243412
I'm generally accused of being a grammar nazi and this isn't a rule I've heard of
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>>158245540
Well using "danced" in the example above implies that it's past tense, while "trailing" is a present tense sort of deal.

I don't know if this is something that bothers a lot of people.
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>>158245731
Have you heard of past continuous?
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>>158246330
Sure, but that hinges on using "was" or "were"

I just really want to avoid triggering people with grammar that reads poorly
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>>158246629
I think you're over-analysing
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>artist contact me for job i posted
>approve them and we exchange a few emails of the acceptance of the job on both our parts
>now three days have passed with no reply to my latest email

yeah that's totally going to work out well for me. NEXT
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>>158249067
I don't know anything about writing, I might be

I cannot tell what sounds awkward and what doesn't
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>>158249818
>3 days

Really mate? Have you give him a deadline for a sketch/full delivery?
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>>158251917
it's 3 days to reply to my email about something when they just accepted the job. definitely not taking chances with this person to actually draw my game
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>>158252509
I think you should wait another day or two just to be sure.
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>>158254029
no, that's fucking stupid, why should _he do that?

if you can't manage to respond to someone just to confirm basic details in THREE DAYS you probably don't need to be participating in business
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>working on project
>shit writer
>hoping that it sells because of tits

just another day as a dev
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>>158251725
You need to read more professional stuff.
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>>158255294
I have, I've just never analyzed it

Shit sucks
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>>158254432
it will. trust me those people will sit through anything
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>>158255920
>it will. trust me those people will ctrl through anything
ftfy
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It isn't even that funny
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>>158256958
>It isn't even funny
ftfy
>>
Post good jokes.
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>>158260979
your life
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>>158261232
This is a bully-free zone
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>>158243412
There's no issue here. The present participle in an absolute construction merely indicates that the action occurs simultaneous with the main clause, ie: in the past.
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>>158262076
Yeah, that's all I was trying to convey, that the person doing the narration (which is really you the player) is observing a past event unfolding, so it feels somewhat right to me to have continuous action occur when it's been established that everything is referring to the past anyway

If it's actually not looked down upon that's even better
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>>158261537
This is 4chan.
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>>158268126
Together we can be 4can
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>>158262608
Yep, you're in the clear. Just keep writing and fret the little stuff later.

>>158049310
It's a novel I have to finish before I really have any business working on a VN. It's about repetition, loosely speaking. Disco is involved.

I didn't finish that chapter though. I didn't even finish a single scene.
>>
bum
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>>158254326
Its weekend anon.
Maybe _he have a weekday or something like that.
Anyway, being impatient is the best way (on dev side) to make artist flake on ya, next to not paying them.
They are a bunch of emotional autist after all.

Mail em again and ask em why they ain't replying, then make your decision based on that.
>>
I'm working on an "epic fantasy" VN with some light RPG/dating sim elements, and I've been thinking about the subject of having numerous "bad endings" like FS/N where there are basically 40 different ways that you can get "game over" by selecting the wrong choice at critical plot points. Some of these are obvious/benign, like allowing the MC to refuse the call to adventure at the beginning and instead live out the rest of their life as a hermit, but some of them are mid-game things where MC can die if he chooses not to do the "chivalrous" thing, or can be seduced and killed by an evil "love interest." What are people's thoughts on this?

It seems more like the trending thing is to do things like Telltale, where there are choices, and though you can get "punished" for a subjectively bad choice, there are no choices that outright cause the game to end just because you decided to ally with the wrong person. Is this kind of thing frustrating and just leads to people feeling like they have to save every time they make a choice?
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So I'm trying to do to my freelance artist what WC did to wanaca. How do I go about it?
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>>158279267
Ankle cuffs?

>>158278906
Welcome to game development. Not everyone likes the same things. Some people like games with lots of bad endings. Some hate them.
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>>158282926
The padding offends me
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>>158285073
bonkiru's art makes me physically sick
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>>158285871
we are kept alive only by fear and loathing
>>
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>>158285871
I, too, feel overtaken by spasmic retching at the sight of the unclothed female form, foul succubi futilely challenging my perfectly unassailable moral aescetism. Truly, I say that the chastity of Christ the King should falter and fade long before shall mine.

That said, she is rather pretty - though of course, I doubt she has read of Boethius. A shame.
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>>158286621
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>>158286357
In his case it looks more like angry envy.
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>>158286746
Good god! Such repugnance. Is the artist afflicted by such cretinism that he fails to understand that such wings would be utterly impractical in facilitating flight? I see that the increased focus on "Gender Studies" and other such post-modernist nonsense has left the youth without even a rudimentary grasp of physics or physiology. I am physically sick, appalled down to the dregs of my testicles.
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>>158287017
ur gay
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Can I cue a movie sprite to play right as a line of dialogue ends?
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>>158292151
Yes
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>the only way to migrate our porject to updated renpy is to copy scrips in manually
J U S T
U
S
T
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>>158294781
How do I do that?
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>>158295963
>>158294781
Actually NVM figured it out
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>>158298967
She going for that "GIMP Paint Bucket Tool" dye job
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>>158302535
Is it just because my glasses can't process purple well or is the name text completely unreadable?
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>>158302952
it's not your glasses, that font color is just squint-tastic.
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>>158278906
If you want to go that route, there's definitely precedent, ie: almost all classic CYA books, plus a slew of non-VN games. Radiant Historia, for example, is very choice-centric, but most of its endings are bad ends that occur immediately after you make the wrong choice. I think you'd be fine doing that.
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>>158307537
Swordbreaker is almost entirely 'You picked a choice and it randomly killed you!' the game. Very CYOA.
>>
>http://kotaku.com/youtubers-clash-with-visual-novel-developers-over-spoil-1788145960
>your purposely terrible VN made for terrible gamejam will never be mentioned by kotaku
>>
Some good spooky VNs? I've only played Higurashi, Umineko and Saya.
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>>158315571

>Ozmafia
>Gamejam

Take a look at this asshole
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>>158315571
> hur durr vns NEED people like ME

fuck people like him.
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>>158317946
yeah he acts like he's not making any money off these things, too
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>>158318498

The worst part is that ozmafia (and most vns) has a demo, it's as easy as lping that rather than the whole thing.
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>>158315571
The joke is on you! They don't cover my games anyway.
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>>158320881

Missing the point that it's not legal to take down videos because you don't want it spoiled hurr durr.
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>>158321390
>it's not legal to take down videos because you don't want it spoiled hurr durr.

No, but it's legal to take down videos because they're using your property for profit. Most companies ignore this because it's beneficial for both parties, but this guy is ignoring their wishes, hence why they take them down.
>>
What's your favorite piece of art that you can show from your current project? If you don't have any art, do you have a favorite line?
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>90% of issues come up in the last %10 of development

Just kill me.
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>>158321983
At least you made it to the last 10%. That's more than most can say.
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>>158321898
>favorite piece of art
i drew it the other day, the best CG i have ever drawn-

>you can show from your current project

n-no thanks
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>>158321746

Youtube is a US company and so regardless of where you live Youtube must abide by US law. There's a little thing called Fair Use. So no it is not illegal to review or LP games you dumb fuck.

It's not even illegal to profit off it because they're profiting off of their own character. Pewdiepie isn't a multimillionaire because of the games he plays you stupid piece of shit.
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>>158321983
story of my life. the issues honestly had no business happening, but they still did.
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>>158322223
>Fair Use.

it's not fair use when it affects the profits of the copyright owner.
>>
>>158322223
Dude listen. I'm not who you responded to but you're being dumb as fuck right now.

It's entirely possible for companies to have videos taken down for profiting off of things they've created. Why do you think Nintendo is able to do so? Why do you think that when Root Double came out it was specified that you couldn't stream the latter half of it? Why do you think that Lucid9's devs specifically outlined that you could record and stream the entirety of what they had made?

Please stop saying stupid things.
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>>158322183
I can relate. Is the problem that we're all just too embarrassed to have our work/names associated with 4chan down the line?
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>>158322786

There is nothing about fair use that says anything about profit of the company.

It is fair use to use any copyrighted material for the purpose of review, commentary, parody and satire. PERIOD.
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>>158323035
this place posts pictures of fat neckbeard devs next to the smut they wrote, so forgive me if I don't want to ever post here publicly.
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>>158323078

Dude, it's literally one of the four deciding factors of fair use: Effect upon work's value
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>>158315571
>>158317946
If you want to get an idea of just how inflated this guy's sense of importance is, take a look at the view counts on his channel.
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>>158323078
>Fair Use is anything I want it to be!
DMCA takedowns can still apply if you're using someone else's content. Fair Use is a legal defense mostly dedicated to parody and educational purposes, but it's a defense, not a license, and as such, is not instantly granted to anything and can be contested at any given time by the copyright holder, who may let it go to court where the burden of proof of the merit will be on you, not them. They already own the content.

It's just that it's bad form to take down reviews, so most people don't do it.
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>>158323169
I'm not judging you. I'm not in any rush to post publicly here either.
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>>158323342

You have to prove IN COURT that said review, parody, etc devalued your work, you cannot state it then violate fair use because then fair use would not apply anymore. Any fucker like yourself could claim that a fair use LP of their game 'hurt them' and take it down because they didn't like what they said.

Youtube unfortunately automates everything and so Fair Use doesn't apply anymore in this case. We live in an age now where any retard like yourself can copyright infringe a negative review to get it taken down regardless of fair use.

And now, negative reviews don't count as devaluing the product it's reviewing.
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>>158323169
To be fair, it's really bad smut and really cringy pictures. Not saying it's right, just that even just one of these things would already result in mockery in even nicer communities.
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>>158322273
>the issues honestly had no business happening, but they still did.

I think this is the worst part. Literally all of the problems are shit outside my direct control (like the artist getting sick for a good chunk of month), so I'm just left staring at them while I work on other (less urgent) stuff.
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>>158323625
Digital Homicide just tried to sue Jim Sterling using this retard justifaction. The case was thrown out and Valve removed all of their games from Steam.

Bad reviews don't violate fair use. And fuck you for thinking they do.
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>>158323734
>You have to prove IN COURT

I'm sure 99% of youtubers would prefer to have their videos taken down for infringement than to be sued for damages.
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>>158323881

this isn't about reviews, this is about let's plays featuring entire games.
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>>158323734
>You have to prove IN COURT that said review, parody, etc devalued your work
Other way around. Fair Use is a defense.

>>158323881
>Digital Homicide just tried to sue Jim Sterling using this retard justifaction.
Wrong, they said it was slander. It wasn't slander.

>Valve removed all of their games from Steam.
Nothing to do with the case against Sterling, everything to do with trying to subpoena Steam for identities on users and obviously failing to do so. Try again?
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>>158323802
they literally look like the 4chan neckbeard stereotype, so i understand people will target them, I just don't want it to be me.
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normiebook /nutakugames/posts/576706675846239
This was posted on the 22nd, 6k donation from one backer came on the 23rd.

Today we learned one thing: if anyone is doing a KS that is dying, get with Nutaku. That one million they said they had for investing in projects might be real.
>>
>>158325246
Also for aspiring devs, be sure NOT to post about your new publisher partnership or the fact that you're now adding porn to your game in KS updates. It's not a big deal at all, let your backers find that out for themselves!
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>>158325367
i think they mentioned a long time ago that lmr has porn? they probably aren't calling attention to it since it's kickstarter.
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>>158325246
Nutaku wrote about their partnership with SG weeks before any of that happened.
>>158325367
They literally say that in the first text section of their campaign.
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>>158324406
Do you look like that too?
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>tfw not fat and not writing sex scenes
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>>158328774
You are missing out on the joys of life son
>>
>tfw never been to 4chan

I'm safe
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>>158334623
do ppl actually read these things when they're posted?
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>>158336176
I read it and I hate it
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>>158334623
>a muslim girl as the comedian
>muslim
>islam
>comedy

I don't think they even know how to take a joke, much less dish out good ones.
>>
>>158336176
I'm doing it, hang on
>>
>>158337340
well that was a waste of time, but two sjwbombs at the end made me chuckle
>>
>>158334623
I feel like these are going to be a bunch of really dull people. They're all these shining stars of goodness at everything they do. There's nothing interesting about them from the descriptions.
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>>158339459
>tfw you're not forcing tropes into characterization
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>>158343765
Are you saying that tropes and personality are two different things? I don't believe you.
>>
What's the Evangelion of the VN genre?
>>
>>158350318
fate

popular, overrated, and full of themes that are entirely hit or miss

unless you mean EVNs in which case there isn't one
>>
>>158350419
I meant EVNs. But mostly I was jogging us back off page 10 with a shitpost.
>>
http://store.steampowered.com/app/492080
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>>158353174
Oh boy, looks like EVN inspired by stock anime tropes, starring a struggling artist who meets a ~mysterious girl~ who fills him with inspiration and changes his life. Truly the literary masterpiece this world needed.

Get real.
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>>158353356
at least the asking price isn't fucking $15
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Howdy.

I hope you're all well and making lots of progress! Because I, on the other hand, am swamped. I barely have time to knock out a crappy sprite these days let alone program a dungeon crawler. I'm not giving up yet though. I am going to see this thing through.
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>>158353174
>only 2 eagle bucks
>still gets negative reviews

brutal
>>
>>157816491
idk
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>>158353174
>protag is a dick

Whew.
>>
>>158365107
>>158353174
http://nardio.net/2016/09/30/vision-aurora-borealis-review/

wow that was scathing.
>>
>>158354983
I believe in you mang
>>
>>158354983
I thought you've realized your doing shit.
>>
>>158365843
and sadly entirely predictable from its kickstarter
unfortunately people are idiots and blindly back stupid shit, then look surprised when its shit
>>
I can't download the adult patch for negligee from the adult website. It's a google drive link but it just gets stuck loading the page. Is there a mirror anywhere?
>>
>>158368642
never mind I just tried in a different browser and it worked wtf
>>
>>158368710
wow wtf that's curaaayyzeeee
>>
http://mgx0.deviantart.com/

Thoughts on this guy's style?
>>
Looks like LMR just got funded.
>>
>>158369132
passable if ts's free
>>
>>158353550
You sound bitter about something.
>>
>>158369132
/vp/ scum
>>
>>158369132
Did you read his ToS? "Don't ask for strict deadlines"

See you in five years or never
>>
>>158369740
SHUT UP IT WASN'T GOING TO MAKE IT, I WAS CERTAIN OF IT
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>>158374797
Obviously last 10k was self-funded, look at charts.
>>
>>158375038
I don't think all of those are self-funded. More like they kick-starter (heh) the active funding process with the fist self-funding.
Now, however, I wouldn't be surprised if they reached 40k.
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>>158375305
>6k from one person
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>>158379213
>She
>she
>woman
Misogynist white cis male scum!
>>
>>158379213
the background and the sprites are seriously misaligned. Also, please tell me you aren't actually working at the resolution of 800x480.
>>
>>158380614
As usual I assume it is simply the size they chose to put in the LSF forum post.
>>
>>
>>158383096
Looks promising
>>
>>158383096
Men need to learn to put more effort into presenting their penises artistically.
>>
>>158383096
>Money: 1
Game of my life.
>>
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>>158383096
what is this?
>>
>>158388267
found it: https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=40807
>>
>>158379213
The fucking padding again
>>
>>158383096
> meant to be played with friends

well then.
>>
>>158388580
>meant to be played with other people

why

also
>the girl with snakes for hair hates men

honestly kek
>>
>>158389470
>>158390059

Yeah, because nerds who play vns are known for having friends they physically play games with.
>>
>>158390823
i do, but the chances of them
>being free to play this with me
>actually wanting to play this specific vn with me
>having to ask them 'hai faget play monster prom with me you need a copy it's x dollers i have my copy'
>>
>http://kotaku.com/a-bdsm-game-that-let-me-explore-a-new-type-of-sexual-ex-1788189623
>A notable thing about Ladykiller’s interactions is how much they still stress the act of being a sub as an active decision.
>The process was still engaging and deliberate. I was never forced to do anything. I chose to play along.

you literally cannot turn off the creepy domination scenes if you pick the beauty nor use a safeword to stop them.
>>
>>158392717
>"""""reviewer""""" so idiotic they didn't even play the game to the end
with friends like these yadda yadda
>>
>>158394842
Even clove has complained about the difficulty in getting reviewers to finish the game. Most of them aren't paid to be thorough, though. They play a game as long as they feel like and write their impressions, like every other steam user
>>
>>158394842
i honestly feel this way about some reviews i see, even for AAA games. but yeah i bet if you asked that reviewer something about the ending you'd get silence
>>
>>158322223
It's not fair use when you use that much content from the vn. It becomes a derivative work that the vn dev can say they don't want it to exist. Let's Play's are not legally fair use.
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>make a tiny bit of progress
>20 minutes of 4chins browsing
shooting for that last quarter of 2116 release
>>
i want to fug officeryou
>>
>>158398274
You know financial quarters don't actually refer to quarters of a year, right?
>>
>>158398649
_no
>>
>>158398629
who the fuck is that
>>
>>158398274
Join the club.

Or don't, rather. I'm sure we'd both get a lot more done if we spent less time shitting around here.
>>
how do you guys go about finding artists?
>>
>>158400050
Summon and make a pact with the devil.
>>
>>158400050
luck
>>
>>158400050
stalk their breeding grounds and pounce the moment they say they want to take up some work
hint: if all their tumblr/DA has are pixel-perfect photo """"studies"""" and not a single sketch, doodle or illustrative piece, they are not just any scum, they are tracing scum. Same thing if the level of their work is very uneven.
>>
>>158401289
>stalk their breeding grounds and pounce the moment they say they want to take up some work
yeah pretty much

the rest of that stuff you're just projecting
>>
>>158401289
>>158400831
>>158400620
how much do I pay them?
On their terms or my own?
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>>158401638
>how much do I pay them?
pay them in exposure
>>
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>>158401638
>my own
>ayy senpai I see you take 30 dollarydoos for a sprite set, but I'm gonna pay you 15 canadian seashells, is that aight witchu
>>
>>158401904
what if i want an actually good artist
>>
>>158402396
then take that pencil and start drawing bud
>>
>>158402396
Then you should probably just do it normally. Either look through peoples' portfolios, or check out the artists of works you already know and like. Research them to find out if they're reputable or not. Ask if they're willing to work on your project and what their going rate is. Check out comparable artists' rates to find out if their price is reasonable or not. If you can pay the price, then sign them on. If not, politely decline and look for another artist.
>>
>>158404682
pencils are for shitters, i only sketch with a felt-tip pen
>>
>>158404984
Just go digital. You have to upload it to a computer in the end anyway, unless you're literally making a puppet show.
>>
>people likes memes, right? RIGHT???
https://twitter.com/DEVGRU_P/status/786715857632264192
>>
>>158405527
>DEVGRU_P
>>
>>158405527
>2000 bot followers

kek
>>
>>158405527
>people like controversy, right? RIGHT???
https://twitter.com/DEVGRU_P/status/774817261081268224
>>
>>158405527
>>158405867
I'd guess they were all in middle school, except at least one of them has to be old enough to sign contracts.
>>
>>158406096
are they useful at all or are they like sekai "we'll retweet something about your game once, gib 30% kkthxbai" project?
>>
>>158406578
I was under the impression they were actually, well, a dev group and not just a publisher.
>>
>>158065524
No Sexual Content
>>
>>158406923
They're both.
>>
>>158407156
let's add some then (not me, I don't want to go to prison)
>>
>>158405867
>We want the My Little Dictator audience
>>
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>>158411156
MLD has been in dev hell for so long, no one gives a shit about it anymore. Hell I'm betting people are going to blame desertfox for ripping this shit off if/when his game does come out.
>>
hitler did nothing wrong
>>
>>158416015
you're such a nice guy
>>
>>158416360
thanks I'm trying my best
>>
>>
>>158417538
you sure it's not coming from those two ginourmous tiddyzeppelins
>>
>>158417538
>heterochromia

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>
>>158417538
That must chafe a lot.
>>
>>
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/432100
>been out less than a week
>Owners: 6,265 ± 2,040


the days gets dharker and dharker
>>
>>158421904
tits are life
>>
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>>158421904
>video says Jasmine
>screenshots say Jasmin
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Because I said I'd post version 1.0. Consider this a "release."

https://mega.nz/#!o5dz0BbT!mP29Lx2y6Pxil9LnD7uIf6dLuDOz9qQ9ls2uuGej5no
>>
>>158427673
>no context

give me one reason to trust you
>>
>>158427673
>lostboy.exe
nothnx
>>
>>158428018
why would you trust anyone on 4chan?

>>158428279
your decision
>>
>>158427673
So uh.
Who's going to click it?
>>
>>
>>158430070
>wearing underwear on the outside
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>158430504
I think the blue patch is "her" own skin anon
>>
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>>158430620

You mean someone elses skin, right?
>>
>>158430070
The frankenstein-ness is WAY overdone and not done well in this one. I disapprove.
>>
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>>158430872
Is it NTR if you fuck your gf but her vagina isn't actually her's?
>>
>>158431105
>her's
Are you trying to trigger my inner grammar nazi on purpose?
>>
>>158430070
sauce?
>>
>>158431251
Yeah, I feel you're frustration. Everyone knows its "he'res".
>>
propose next thread theme
>>
>>158433468
yuri
>>
>>158433468
shotas
>>
>>158433468
yuri shotas
>>
>>158434247
>>158434403
>>158434863

hetero romance (not harem)
>>
>>158435450
Whoa, degenerate
>>
>>158433468
British Visual Novel.
>>
post progress
>>
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>>158433468

This thredde be for the discussioun of originale Middel English visual noveles, as well as western visual novele creacioun.

Have ye a questioun abouten a Japanese visual novele or a translacioun thereof? /vn/ be redie for to answere it, but they ne we be.

>Recommended readinge:
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=olang-en.tagspoil-0;o=d;s=rating
http://pastebin.com/zGVSpH0B

>Tresoures for creatours beginnynge:
http://pastebin.com/7LsCvtq3

>Guides for creatours on alle matteres:
https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewforum.php?f=42

>Ren'Py (visual novele creacioun softeware):
http://www.renpy.org/

>Discorde
https://discord.gg/T9ygPkz

>Thredde precedent:
>>157809774
>>
I'm lonely...
>>
>>158446236
We're here for you, pal, in the loosest sense of "here" and also "we". How's that progress? What's your position on your project?
>>
>muh reviews

http://www.otakuaniverse.com/index.php/visual-novels/553-vision-of-aurora-borealis-review
>>
>>158448642
Have any of us actually bought this thing or are we just going to keep shitting on it regardless?
>>
>>158448935
>buying evns
>>
>>158448935
not me but my friend bought it and said it was pretty poorly done and they wanted to skip most of the dialog. it had an interesting idea that the girl is like the aurora and disappears and reappears, so in the end she fades away and then sends mc some pic of her in another country or something
>>
>>158449327
Looking more closely at it, it does look really derivative. That is an interesting concept, though. Pity it was squandered here.
>>
an auror borealis

at this time of the day, in this part of the country, and localized entirely within your kitchen

may i see this aurora borealis?
>>
>>158450250
wat
>>
>>158450359
i'm not sure anymore
>>
>>158450359
that's a simpsons reference
>>
let's not shamefully die 9 post before the bumplimit, shall we
>>
>>158456154
what difference does it make, no one will make a new thread anyway
>>
We need "edition" for next thread.
>>
>>158462095
just let this general die
>>
:^)
>>
ahoy
>>
So quest failed just got released on nutaku. Anyone here bought it yet?
>>
>>158472879

I did, bretty gud.
>>
>>158472879
One of us is actually involved in development.
>>
>>158472879
dev's going to drown in patreonbux
>>
slowly off the edge
>>
crawling in my skin
>>
https://vimeo.com/189004289

coooooollll
>>
I'll bake a fresh one when we die
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