/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1175

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WHITE

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A HEARTBREAK WITHOUT HARMONY

>>157727460
He's kinda cute...

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>>157727658
get your shitty SMT knockoff XIV boss out of here.

>>157727658
>STILL USING THE WRONG LYRICS

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Have a good night /pso2g/

Do any of you guys pay for premium? I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and go premium

>>157730783
Premium's very worth it if you play a lot.

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KISAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

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Am I a Qt

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>>157731705
JESUS FUCKIGN CHRIST

NO

>>157730509
I would if you were in bed with me

>>157727097
who ship 4 here?

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the fucking blur though

>>157732054
Same. It's nice not dealing with the retard English teams on Shit 2.

We only have to deal with the retarded Japanese teams.

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>>157732054
ded ship ded game

>>157732305
>>157732361
After four years of not playing, I am finally back on. I just wish I could remember my main account SEGA ID so I can get my 600+ hours back.

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>>157732056
Then turn off blur

>>157732432
The game was actually way more fun back then, people actually did the new content that came out because EQs weren't OP and broken.

About 2/3 of the way through Episode 2 is when the game started going downhill.

>>157732526
>after the worst period of the game is when it started going downhill
I assume EP2 is when you were ne to the game, so you only remember it fondly because you were unaware of how broken the game actually was at the time.

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>ARKs League
>Only 2 other players competing in mine
>They're both always in my riding quest MPA every time
>One of them is ahead of me by 1

>>157732981
I started playing in Closed Beta senpai, when there was literally only Forest and Caves.

The game was broken in a way, but you actually had to work for stuff. SEGA hands you everything for free now basically

>>157733417
>SEGA hands you everything for free now basically
Why does that even matter? Why does the reward have to be hard to obtain?

>>157734418
Because effort makes the reward that much sweeter.

>>157734418
see >>157734458
Also it really wasn't even that bad back then. There were frustrating moments, but actually finding a rare weapon or something for once was seriously one of the best feelings ever.

Every PSO game has been like that, and rare hunting was, to me and I think a lot of other veterans, part of what the series was about.

It's not just difficultly or gameplay though. The game's already mediocre atmosphere became even more over the top with all of this idol garbage and shit that nobody cares about. At this point, the game has none of that special character that other games in the series had. In the beginning it still did to an extent. I would say that it changed just after the Falz Luther fight came out.

>>157734995
I think they're hitting a nice balance nowadays.

>>157734418
I rather would have had them make 13*s tradable. I don't understand why they're so scared of doing it. Do they not want me to buy premium? Hell, even if they did now, it's too late for anyone to care.

>>157735187
It's easy for me to complain because from my perspective, the game's development has always been a dripfeed. I've always hovered around endgame when a new update comes out, so I have no idea how overwhelming or exciting the game is for somebody just getting into the game today.

The combat gameplay is still one of the greatest out there and PSO2 has probably beeb the best F2P MMO (maybe best period) since it was released. I just miss when there was a better sense of achievement and competition with other players, personally

>>157734418
>muh rocks are too easy to obtain
They're just complainers with eyes fogged by the nostalgia goggles. If they really wanted that feeling they'd be hunting for austeres without using the UNNEEDED rocks.
They don't do it because they know how soul crushing that rare hunt is; fuck that.

>>157735341
They've always been a little torn between having an actual game economy and making the rewards feel like they've actually been earned. They really don't want people just logging in their first few days and buying/trading/being gifted the best gear in the game from the outset

It's the same motivation they came up with this weird weapon pass system for 10* and so on in the first place, really. Take a 10* you actually "earned", turn into a pass as proof you got it before you can turn around and buy another

I mean don't get me wrong it is terribly flawed but I can see where they're coming from. And once they open up that box there's no going back, so reticent they remain

>three expired bonus keys
whoops

>>157736934
They key to my heart never expires anon~

I'm leveling a Br/Hu right now and I will probably hit level 40 today. What weapon and PA should I be using during VHAQ PSE Bursts to not be deadweight? Are there any decent bullet bow PAs or should I go for something like a gunslash?

>>157736583
They can make 14* weapons tradable from the get go with the pass system and also have some weapons that cannot be traded. Make the untradable weapons be the best for people who want to put in the effort to farm it.

If anyone's played FFXI with the rare/ex drops from NMs you know what I'm talking about. Some of those drops could last for a long time and made you want to hunt them down over just buying a weaker item from the auction house.

>>157739895
Using HU sub, get some all-class wired lances and spam Kaiser Rise.

>>157739895
Seconding kaiser rise.
It's even better now after the buff.

>>157739957
>>157740616
thanks, i'll try that. any particular weapon you'd recommend?

>>157740645
Get yourself some Nox WL, they have good enough stats to flatten anything VHAQs have to offer and NT is cheap/easy to grind up. BR equippable too.

>>157740792
i have just about every nox melee weapon but not WL unfotunately. no premium so no weapon passes.

>>157741110
That sucks to hear, aside from that... Glass Klein (11* all-class WL) if you have them, otherwise it looks like you'll need to craft up and add-BR to some Red WLs.

Just a reminder that Ethan and Karen will be gone after maintenance, so no more client orders for Huge Cutter, Claire Doubles, or Dagger of Seraphy NT (although you might still get one if you run into them out in the field)

Also, the Ray series collection files are also going away

The Vegas CF won't be expiring and their availability (and displayed expiration date) will be extended into early December

>>157741283
Thanks for the heads up.

>>157741283
I wanted to clear them one more time before maint, but I guess I won't bother since I'd rather sleep and it takes like an hour to do them.

>>157741168
looks like red WL is my only option then, is there an item that guarantees a class addition upon crafting?

>>157741358
You still got like fourteen hours until maintenance

>>157741503
You can use a クラス追加(ブレイバー)(buy it from player shop). Just so you know, if you extend an item after applying this to it, the class will be removed. So get it crafted as high as you can before doing so.

How do you feel about the game moving away from older one hour EQ events like Dark Falz Elder, Dark Falz Loser, or Magatsu where the first thirty minutes is spent repeating the first wave and the last thirty minutes on a single "final battle"

>>157742130
As long as the boss fight doesn't have:

A one hour time window before you fail
Me piloting an AIS instead of using the character I spent all this time building up
The boss having attacks that are so nonthreatening you can literally avoid them by standing still
Should you happen to actually die, you resurrect in 5 seconds automatically with no penalty

I really don't care.

tl:dr: Fuck Yamato.

Magatsu final phase was fine because you had a strict time limit which made dying meaningful and attacks were extremely difficult to avoid without fucking up your positioning and ruining your damage output.

>>157742130
I'm happy they did, as someone who would just kill 1 arms or 4 apos on N to get max loot on phase 2.

Reminder to blacklist and report all bouncers.

>>157728005
Get your wow knockoff off this board

>>157733417
For free? Some of those collection files are hard labor.

Should I use Fighter or Braver as my sub for Hunter?

I've been using Fighter but the Fighter tree as a whole is really disappointing and revolves around Limit Break which is main class only.

>>157746296
Hu/Fi is superior to Hu/Br in basically every way, due to the multipliers on the stances and other conditions (PP slayer, chase advance etc). Br sub is only good for certain gimmicks like the newly release weaponoid potential.

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>literally in the middle of mining
>disconnected from server

>>157743421
the flip side is that when you can fail and it's as pissy as megastu, you wind up bitching about how everyone sucks when things do fail. also

>nearly a halfhour of music for a ~5 minute fight


>>157734458
>>157733417
getting lucky with RNGesus is not effort, faggot. it is not "working hard".
stones, collect file... these are effort. there is concrete progress you can make or not make.

if you seriously think that being 100% certain to be running into undergeared shitters constantly because the RNG won't fork over gear that's up to par, is a good thing... then you'd better had shut your fucking mouth about what other people don't have -because the game won't give it to them-.


>>157735187
>this week's update is basically all about 12* units
>12* units are RNG only with rates worse than saiki
>to this day, despite many a wasted booster, I've never seen giggle gundam drop a saiki unit
>hitting a nice balance
yeah no. if those blatantly ray-themed units were CF, you could say it was a nice balance.

it's pretty sad; as it is I have zero reason to go near ult amdu, because the gicks series weapons are unlikely to beat much anything I have, and the only thing I'd actually WANT out of there I won't get even if I burn out all my boosters and live in there for the next six months.


>>157736583
when I could save up and buy my gear off the market, I felt like I was earning it. when all the good stuff turned 10*+ and I had no choice but to grind for months and not get -shit-, I no longer felt like I was earning. I felt like I was spinning my wheels in the mud.

RNG is not earning things. having something pop up with a 1:100000 chance is not something to feel accomplished about. you feel lucky, but lucky is not "whew, my hard work has finally been rewarded". it's "jesus christ, it's finally over."

why camera showing me Quna's panties? now I want to fap

>>157747635
>not minimizing and fapping RIGHT NOW
Pleb

Is it possible to use gunslash effectively? What kind of mag, etc. would I need?

>>157747149
>"whew, my hard work has finally been rewarded"
I definitely felt that way when I farmed my Saiki. Maybe because I went in with the mindset that I will actually get it after enough time since I farmed it in Free Field because triggers didn't exist at the time.

I also did it with a group of four and we all finished our sets at roughly the same time so it didn't really feel like luck to me, just a long grind.

>>157747149
but the gyx series is almost certain to beat austere

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Kneel

>>157749095
You look like a bobble head.

>>157749404
You're a bobblehead

>>157749095
Thank goodness, I was worried I wouldn't be able to vomit today, but thanks to you I finally can.

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I would like a table for two, please.

>Dragon Slayer weaponoid potential
Is this actually stronger than an austere using PAs under standard conditions?

>>157753089
If you're a person who never uses JG Sonic Arrow or Ignite Parrying then it can be somewhat close in damage.

Normal attacks simply don't have enough radius even with the increased range from the craft to be good for anything except bossing or maybe one shotting things that have little hp.

>>157753303
How about if we're talking bosses only, is it stronger then?

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Any boss screen shots?

>>157753754
Heavily depends on the boss and what you get hit by or if you do any non-max charges accidentally or if you run out of PP, that sort of thing.

Anything that attacks at a somewhat high rate will heavily favor PA uses because Ignite Parrying is so far ahead of everything else that Sword can do (now at 1600DPS w/ SacBite's damage boost after the recent JA timing buff to it) and Ignite Parrying also has the bonus of being invincible during it so unless you get lucky and are able to match your use of Step for the Step Attack spam that you're doing, you're going to have to either delay your attack or delay your Step which would both be a small DPS loss. Not to say that every charge PA would also lose DPS (short-term) because of the hitstun that occurs when Charge Parrying activates if you happen to be using one at the time but it's something to think about.

If we ignore Ignite, it's really hard to accurately measure how good it is because of the fact that you don't need any PP to do damage without having actual results. On paper, Weak Stance Hu/Br Dragon Slayer does slightly more DPS than Austere OE but of course, this is absolute perfect conditions for Dragon Slayer so if you miss a JA on your Step Attack or you're simply not getting frame-perfect Step Attacks everytime then DPS is going to drop pretty heavily because the only thing that's gonna drop OE's DPS is if you miss some hits. Also ignoring the fact that hitting some weakspots 100% of the time is impossible.

>>157753754
Maybe, it's hard to model Hu PA dps since the DPS of the actual PAs is pathetic (about 900), while ignite parrying and SA ring is insane (1100+). For most mobs dragonslayer is probably better because you're going to oneshot most mobs anyway, so might aswell do it without wasting PP (no need to revolve your build around this for that aswell, just have the sword and a AA ring with you). For bossing, assuming you have a ranger for reliable WBs and thus weak stance, it also probably beats austere once you consider the inconsistency of PA usage (running out of PP, not getting quick ignite parrying, unable to ignite parry on exposed weakspots etc.). It probably blows austere the fuck out with ult buster though.

>>157754027
>low level vol
It's like you're dodging a model locomotive.

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>>157754027

How does slash rave work? Sometimes I'll do the combo and end up hitting a strong 20-30k finisher but sometimes it just doesn't happen despite all of the hits connecting.

How do i gunslash mob and boss stuff?
i picked up 6 ray gunslashes so thought i might use them a bit at least

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>>157754027
ded bosses count, right?

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ULTRA RARE

>logs back
>10 friend requests
>8 private arks cards

fuck off

So when are they going to fix the broken subclass system?

Is there any way to copy/paste item names so I can figure out the value of my items on the player shops?

>>157760091
ctrl+c

>>157760520
Oh that...just works. Without selecting anything. Alright.

>>157757592
I thought solus only used rappy suits.

>>157757763
The last hit is a bit weird and doesn't hit the same way as the slashes, mostly just something you have to get used to. It can have hitbox issues on mobs that have super armor.

>>157758082
Mobbing is heavy use of Kreisenschlag and Strezwei+Tri-Impact Type-0.

Kreisenschlag needs you to change directions during the PA for all the hits to hit something in front of you, only get 3 hits if you don't do anything. To get all 5 hits you need to input the Front>Right>Back Left>Front directions during specific parts of the PA (not easy to explain so just try it yourself).

Strezwei Melee mode is a decent gap closer with some good damage and Tri-Impact Type-0 also has good damage+range to it. Ranged mode Strezwei is alright for AoE if you can hit heads with it but it's very PP intensive.

The other Gunslash PAs can come in handy for mobbing sometimes (hitting specific hitboxes, easy headshots etc.) but you will have to find out where yourself since there is too many situations to list.

Bossing is mainly just using what is best at the time. Slash Rave and Serpent Air are what you want to use for damage but they both eventually put you outside of melee range because of the height gain. You can use Regenschlag to home you back down but sometimes it can be unreliable so a simple Step Attack will work as well.

Kreisenschlag with the directional input trick is also good again for attacking at range and the recent cancel timing change makes it pretty safe to use now.

Thrillsplode now has i-frames during the roll so you can use that to avoid attacks while doing damage and keeping Tech Arts if you have Fi in the mix.

Tri-Impact Type-0 is a decent filler PA to use because it's easily cancelable and still does alright damage with just the shockwave bit if the boss you're hitting moves for whatever reason.

is the new story area in es actually original?

>>157761734
that's eparema

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>>157763223
I got coaxed into making a webm of Kreisenschlag so here:

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Have a good day, pso2g~

>>157766818
this doesn't seem that complicated but I'm too lazy to learn it

>>157768818
It can be difficult to do with multiple instances of hitstop because the timing for each hit+input will change and it can be hard to adjust accordingly on the fly.

It's fairly straightforward for single-target though.

What's the name of the song that plays during the Trick or Treat 2016 emergency quest in the desert?

>>157769613
This is my happiness

>>157769613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOgtiD-w8UY

>>157769613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOgtiD-w8UY

What's the name of the best class in the game?

>>157769921
チャレンジャー

>>157769921
Force/Techer

>>157769763
>>157769796
>>157769883
No wonder I couldn't find it. Thanks!

Sega just fixed sword and partizan has been good for a while(I could do with lower PP costs though), so how do we fix wire lances?

I mean, it doesn't even work properly on some enemies and just doesn't work right on bosses with some PAs(the animation is just some energy ball). More damage? Speed? Range?

I'd go with double the range myself since the other two weapons cover it already, plus it could make for interesting combos and gameplay.

>>157770705
Wired lance is fine though, it has the highest sustained and burst dps out of HU weapons
>the animation is just some energy ball
That means you couldn't grab the target, the PA works exactly the same otherwise

>>157770861
>highest sustained ... dps out of HU weapons
That is objectively false

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Hmm....


>>157768565
You too~

>>157771102
when you gonna make something your happy with?

>>157771078
You're going to tell me sword does more damage? Partisan is barely a contender, and that's with abysmal pp management

>>157771327
Partisan is way better sustained DPS, dude. Vol graptor combos are way better than anything WL can do. HC is amazing burst, but it isn't good sustain DPS at all.

>>157771515
No, not really
Vol graptor was only top tier on magatsu where you couldn't really use holding current easily, and you had FI being the class of choice with a partisan that gives 20% to throw
The other combos are very average dps and they eat a ton of pp, and furthermore WL has more PAs than holding current and they're still better
Partisan is midline between Sword and WL, it's not the best at single target or aoe but it does both things well, and sometimes it may be easier to use it over WL

>>157771290
Don't know tbqh, Its one of those things i have to (for a lack of a better term) FEEL and so far that hasn't occurred yet. So i''ve no idea when the time will come

>>157770705
Other than fixing the tons of bugs that Wired Lance has, a buff to Other Spin and Wild Round is mostly all that Wired Lance needs right now

The buff to Kaizer Rise was very big for the weapon as a whole because you can fit it in almost anywhere and it does a decent amount of damage while filling gear (mostly for people who don't use Hunter Gear Save but 12* units will change that).

A better height gainer would be nice to have because Air Pocket Swing is just annoying to use and absolutely destroys your PP if you want to go somewhat high in a short amount of time.

Other Cyclone is a bit small and could use a bit of a radius increase but if Other Spin got a buff to the suction or maybe had a mini-zondeel effect that lingers for a bit, it wouldn't really need a buff.

Adapt Spin actually doing damage would be nice too but it's not really used for the damage anyway.

>>157771737
Are you only looking at the DPS numbers on swiki or something?

>>157771948
No, or I would have said partisan is better

>>157772270
You're just really wrong then. Dunno. The DPS of HC drops off tremendously after you get all the hits off, since you're doing literally nothing.

>>157770705
Needs stronger non-grab close-range moves that are actually workable on a moving boss. Kaiser Rise shouldn't be as strong as Cerberus Type-0 when the latter has almost no range for example.
Wired Lance is just a big mistake. I miss claws from the previous games

>>157770705
>Sega just fixed sword
Citation needed. Everything is still inferior to FO.

>>157772512
I don't know why people keep repeating this because even with the dropoff, its dps is still equal to volg+throw, the most unusable partisan combo that is significantly stronger than the others. All that means is that it's amazing burst damage when the opening is very short, and once again WL has other PAs with high dps

reminder to report and blacklist all those not playing force in ult after maintenance

>>157773092
Force is average in ult

>>157731705
Use the fifth face if you wanna look cute. You didn't do bad with what you were working with, but it ain't good.

>>157773092
Because all those Fire/Light/Dark Forces will be so useful when they're all pretending to be lightning spec'd

>>157773092
>Amduscia, land of DRAGONS
>Not using a DRAGONslayer

Wired Lance DPS is gay shit.
>Holding Current facetanking because you can't move or cancel for 4 seconds in 2016. Also needs to dump PP for Adapt Spins to have combo affinity with other PAs. And needs a macro for maxing out effectiveness on moving targets
>Other Cyclone has bad hitbox and low range especially compared to new Nova Strike
>Heavenly Fall with glitchy hitbox that always hits the ground
>Crafted Cerberus is okay
>Grapple Charge is entirely underwhelming compared to Guilty Break

Why did they ruin claws by making WL?

>>157773834
Still best dps if you get good

>>157773972
You can't just make something like Persona stop moving for you to safely unload your HC.

Ignite Parrying is more fair, needs more skill, and does better DPS. Bow down to your Sword overlords you pleb.

>>157774146
A savvy warrior uses all of his tools.

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>>157773092
>mfw will be able to spot the fire fo posing as lighting saying "i am carrying guys honestly"

>>157774441
and they will still do more dps than pso2g bouncers, bravers and hunters

>>157774751
>they will still do more dps than pso2g
>pso2
figuratively and literally who cares

>>157774751
Who is this pso2g? Is it you?

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On a scale from 1 to btfo you think gyx will beat austere?

>>157769796
>>157769883
>Tom Jones
What the fuck? No that's not Tom Jones

>>157774441
>already 2 mpas made for ult
>9 every 12 are fos
>i know most of them are single fire tree shitters
I'm already nauseated.

>>157776923
mildly btfo but held back in certain situations

>>157776923
>you think gyx will beat austere?
Nah, it's gonna be shit.

>>157776923
Maybe after whatever its weird conditional is has been met

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>another TD

JUST

>>157776923
Gyx probably not that much, the drop only weapons will most likely completely shit all over austere though. And the only one you'll ever get will be JB

We try to guess gyx potentials now.
I'll start: Increased damage when around other ARKS.
+1% for every player in your party
+0.5% for every player in your MPA not in your party
Amounting for a total of 7% total bonus damage in a full MPA, being slightly below austere.

>>157779737
Increased damage after gathering.
Starts at 10% damage when at 0 stamina, loses 0,1% damage at every point regained up to 0% damage when at full stamina.
Satk weapons will scale off mining stamina, Ratk off fishing stamina and Tatk off both and will have twice of the damage.

>>157779737
8% normally
16% after using your photon blast once

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>>157779737
+1% for every friend that is online
-0.5% for every friend that is offline

>>157780552
I'd happily remove so many people who stopped playing

>>157779680
The drop only weapons would benefit from being OT rather than NT, imo.

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Join the army

>>157763223

Doubt you're still here but I'll try since you seem to know how gunslash works.

What kind of mag / class setup should I have? Right now I'm running Fi/Hu with a pure s attack mag but I can buy a mag claim ticket to build a proper one.

>>157779737
+18% damage if you've defeated an Anga in the last 24 hours.

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>>157781738
>drop only
>NT
NT was a mistake

>>157782745
Yep. Not only do you have to get lucky once, you have to get lucky 6 fucking times in a row in order to maximise your weapon.

OT grinding is shit and will always be shit, especially for 13*.

>>157769613
it's called
"GOD DAMNIT STOP REUSING THIS SHIT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HALLOWEEN AND I'M SICK OF IT AFTER FOUR YEARS"

>>157783541
At least it stops playing when NPCs show up for a few seconds if for some reason you forgot to turn off your music for this EQ.

So uh, does Double Saber have no gap closers?

I'm having a lot of fun with it, but unless I'm desperately dash jumping, I can never get close to enemies in time. Even sword with dash jumps and type 0 sac bite is better at closing gaps.

>>157783840
>Fighter

That's your problem.

>>157783840
Then Type-0 Tornado Dance or whatever its called.

>>157783840
Tornado Dance 0, Surprise Dunk in TPS... have you ever even tried to FI?

>>157782410
Still here.

While most of the PAs do scale with R-Atk, I don't think having any R-Atk on your Mag will make much of a difference for damage. It's just going to lower the damage of your melee portions overall since that's where most of your modifiers are. Having R-Atk related subs (RA mostly) is the only way you're going to gain a sizeable damage boost on the R-Atk portions but it's not really worth it.

Fi/Hu is definitely the best pick for it mainly because both of the classes boost both damage types and Fi has a buttload of melee modifiers thanks to LB and Critical Strike, Crazy Heart is also incredibly good for anyone.

That being said, a unit set with hybrid affixes would be decent compared to just S-Atk only but most of the R-Atk oomph is going to be in Kreisenschlag or Thrillsplode. It's not going to make a big difference either way but it's mainly depends on if you want to spend Meseta on it.

>>157783840
Use Surprise Dunk in TPS mode. Charged Tornado Dance Type-0 is also good for burst movement but not over long distances.

>>157784276
This reminds me how they nerfed fury stance like a month after addition bullet was added, because everybody was using it.

>>157784276
What about Fi/Gu?

>>157785008
Fi/Gu is terrible.

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>>157784654
Their reason for it was that it "narrowed your choices for subclass selection" but we all know how that turned out.

>>157785008
Gunslash doesn't really build Chain fast enough for it to be decent and it also doesn't really have a huge PA to use when activating Chain. The best you could do would be something like Thrillsplode into a bunch of Serpent Airs or just Thrillsplode > Kreisenschlag (for ZRA). ZRA is also a problem since most of the R-Atk PAs that you would be using wouldn't actually be in range to proc ZRA.

You could swap to TMG but you might as well be playing GU at that point.

>>157781738
>cancerous old grinding
>a benefit
kill yourself.

>>157782860
as opposed to having to get lucky at least twice, and then get lucky an indeterminate number of times more more to keep shithead from eating a fuckton of money and lambda grinders...

yeah, you're a fucking moron.

>>157784230
>>157784276
why tps for suprise dank?

>Crazy Heart is also incredibly good for anyone.
anyone who's willing to constantly be getting status effect'd and then run like hell from everyone who might cure it, maybe. or LB-only fags, but they spend so much time licking the floor it's pointless to worry about anyway.

>>157785587
>"narrowed your choices for subclass selection"
and here we are, years later, where they're desperately TRYING to minimize people's choices because the people who took over halfway through ep3 are allergic to the idea of balancing things in relation to other classes.

>>157785587
>>157787975
Well you know, it was a problem. The nerf didn't actually fix that problem at all, but certainly was a thing.

>>157787975
>or LB-only fags, but they spend so much time licking the floor it's pointless to worry about anyway.
Do you not use LB whenever you can? That's like, where the majority of your damage comes from as an Fi

>>157788631
>Limit Break
>"W-when I'm not dead for 75% of the fight I-I'm doing damage!"
>Fi Fags being this delusional

>>157787596
With them being OT, +40 and you're done. Sure it might cost a bit more in both lambdas and cost, but you don't have to get the weapon to drop 6 fucking times in order to get it to +35. At least with old type you can get co 13*, exchange 13*, collect file 13*, or god forbid a second drop of it to get it to 60 ele and have it at full power. Drop only NT is fucking cancerous.

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>>157787975
>why tps for suprise dank?
It goes much further and is way more precise. I never ever use it outside of TPS because never puts me where I want to be, half the time it puts me somewhere in Deadly Archer range but I want to be close enough to use something like Acro Effect.

>anyone who's willing to constantly be getting status effect'd and then run like hell from everyone who might cure it, maybe. or LB-only fags, but they spend so much time licking the floor it's pointless to worry about anyway.
Most of the time the people curing Status Effects are FOs or TEs and both of those have Super Treatment (hopefully) which is just as good. LB is never a problem unless you be risky on purpose, FI has many tools to avoid attacks while doing damage.

>>157788869
Just because you're bad at it, doesn't mean someone else is anon, stop projecting.

>>157789412
ayLMAOOOO
>FIHU shitters being this DESPERATE and DUMB
Can't make this shit up.

>>157789718
Trying too hard m8.

>>157788631
>That's like, where the majority of your damage comes from as an Fi
It's a significant power boost but saying it's "where the majority of your damage comes from" is a stretch

Brave Stance by itself even without Brave Stance Up is a larger modifier

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Air Reversal is amazing but I wish I had the ring slots to be able to use it.

>>157793717
You will soon.

>>157793717
Just get 12* units :^)

>>157788381
pretty much. a problem existed but what they did only hurt HU rather than fix the problem they saw with RA benefitting fully from fury.


>>157788631
I gave up on FI because the only way to play it is 100% maximum glass cannon, and I do not feel that is acceptable at melee range. trying to use LB was the last thing I did before giving up on the class, and it was the final nail in the coffin because if you build for not dying instead of "all the damage and nothing else", FI ends up sucking ass, even when you don't have some twink ass FO disrupting FI's finicky stances.
>>157789089
>+40 and you're done!
>he implies this is in any way not a nuisance with obsolete type grinding
>implying older 13*s dropped at max element
>being THIS assblasted about ~40 attack
no anon, (you) are the cancer.
the only way to validate (you)r remark would be to cut it down to "drop-only is fucking cancerous"
as it is, (you)'re going to have a minimum of two to have a usable weapon thanks to how element value works. 99% of content, according to anonymous, doesn't even need 13* tier power, so the extra (you) get from farming up six is of no real consequence.
while (you) are insisting that grinding that does not fail is somehow a bad thing, (you) should also consider that unlike old weapons, not having it at the absolute maximum isn't like chopping off half your arm.

>>157789195
I think you're missing what that last remark was pointing out. if one ISN'T a LBfag, using crazyheart means trying to avoid having your status effects removed, and the average FO or TE who's bothering to help people is probably going to be chasing you around trying to be fixing you at that point.
aaand about the only thing I can think of in FI's arsenal that's godmode is deadly circle 0, which you can only spam just so much while expecting to get anything done. in the game's more clusterfucky situations anything less than full guard/iframes is... of limited help.

>>157793960
>drop only
>dogshit drop rates
GFL faggot. maybe by next october you'll get a single unit. maybe.

>>157794186
in before random pieces are collect file items for gex

>>157794309
They showed the requirements for dix sword. One of them was an xq spellstone weapon, Momijihime, so no getting lucky with drops.

>>157779680
In the last stream, they said that Gyx will be offense-oriented, and the drop-only weapons will be defense-oriented.

hello ship2 friends wanna vhaq a bit before maint

>>157794939
after the eq

>>157795385
yay

>>157794939

What time does maintenance start EST?

>>157795689
10pm

>>157793885
I'm probably not going to swap from Austere unless the set bonus is super good but it doesn't sound like it will be based on what Kimura said last stream.

At least they added the /sr command.

>>157794050
>if one ISN'T a LBfag, using crazyheart means trying to avoid having your status effects removed
Most of the Status Effects don't really do anything except for Panic but you can work around it with lock-on (better to not have it at all though). Having a Status Effect for a few seconds before some random dude (or yourself) cures it without having Super Treatment is still extremely good if you have an Orbit. You'll pretty much regen your entire bar of PP by the time it's gone.

>the average FO or TE who's bothering to help people is probably going to be chasing you around trying to be fixing you at that point.
Anti has such a big range that you don't really need to have to know where the person is at all. On something like the Panic pools during Double for instance, probably about 90% of the time I get Panic on me it's cured by someone with Super Treatment because there's always some FO using Anti on himself there. I find it rare to ever have Panic or even Burn on me at all during Double.

>aaand about the only thing I can think of in FI's arsenal that's godmode is deadly circle 0, which you can only spam just so much while expecting to get anything done. in the game's more clusterfucky situations anything less than full guard/iframes is... of limited help.
For Double Saber specifically, Deadly Circle Type-0 is actually in-line with most of the other PAs if you count in whirlwind damage for the duration of it so I'm not sure what you mean there. Most of the clusterfucks in the game can be avoided simply by being in the air, almost nothing can hit you at full jump height in Ult Nab/Lilipa for example, playing FI is really not as dangerous as you're making it out to be. I don't even have any defensive HU skills except IW1 and I've never had trouble.

Does this EQ have a second part?

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a-are you gu-guys ready for n-ne-new co-con-content a-aye!?

>>157796218
yes

>>157796345
Your butt is FAT.

>>157795425
Make a quest in a block and i'll join you until the maintenance.

>>157797369
ok lets do it for like an hour then relax til maint

>>157797369
b31
gimme like 5-10 minutes to do something
which one do you want to do?
i've hosted

>>157797498
You forgot to tell the block.
And your name or the quest you'll make.

OT grinding:
- Achieve max weapon ATK value faster
- Weapon ATK value revert back to stock value after each potential unlock. 4 round of battling dudumonica RNG power.
- Higher risk and cost because >dudumonica
- Less material to work with
- Changing weapon element need weapon of the same class and same rarity

NT grinding:
- Achieving weapon max ATK value take longer time
- Need to have 5 more copy of the same weapon for max ATK value
- Potential unlock as you grind to max
- No risk
- More material needed
- Can change weapon element with any weapon as fodder

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld3PR5lkyYQ

AND DOWN LOW IT KICKS UP SO BE READY
AND ALL THE WHILE WE DON'T STOP TO BE BETTER

>>157797865
Neon nights is better

>>157797809
>OT grinding:
>- Achieve max weapon ATK value faster
Arguable, depending on your luck.

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>>157798056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oOcRqZdI0c

NEON LIGHTS OF NHITE CUM SHOW US THE WAY
LET IT BRIGHTEN UP AND TAKE US ALL AWAAAY AWAAAAY FROM ALL WHO STAND IN OUR WAAAAY

ISNT IT MORE THAN WE DREAMED
ISNT IT MORE THAN WE IMAGINED IT TO BE

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Woo got em all done before maintenance boys

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Getting some weird bugs this week.

>>157796345
I really want to face fuck you

>>157796345
i really want to put a bag on your face

>Ethan coat repca

God dammit why did they make the tassels fly fucking everywhere at the slightest movement

>>157802334
>pso2g being dumb enough to wear such an ugly costume.

Can't make this shit up.

>>157802538

Considering half of pso2g is generic anime girl #226 it's not too far from the norm.

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>>157802334
>used to wear flappy clothes and be okay with it

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See you in 6 hours.

>>157803994
>only a 1-2 hyperion members there

>>157804151
literally who cares

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43LTXsmJkok

ITS THAT TIME FAGGOTS

POST THE UGLIEST MOTHER FUCKER YOU HAVE AND SOME SHITTY MUSIC

>>157804502
mine or others?

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>>157804502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkwjOd7MCU

>>157804151
well duh, that team moved on

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>tfw i finally found something i'm happy with

>>157804502
https://youtu.be/3PJxzxP3_RY

>>157805181
Lewds when

Is there like a tier list for classes, or what's good right now?

Are summoners really trash?

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>>157804579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KmVt6Prjpc#t=12m25s

yours
or others
or both

>>157805651
>Wanting Lewds of fucking Lilith of all people

Shit taste

>>157805651
funny joke

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New UQ soon, what weapons are you going to grind for? Are you hoping that 12 star units don't have shit set bonus / stats? Will OH finally have an MPA?

>>157804502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZTrhoBpMc

I'm not a big fan of the EP4 music but I like this one a lot.

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>>157805651
Why would you want them?

reeee

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>>157804502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkosGBfzVig

>pso2g still can't get in expert blocks
Can't make this shit up.

>they can't get into the b31 inner ERP circle
Can't make this shit up.

>>157807063
>they
who?

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>>157804502
https://youtu.be/HHKO3Cnh8Zg

>>157803994
>unironically using ray garbage

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>>157804502
I don't take screenshots as often anymore. Time to keep replaying Hitman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY0bQbENB3Q

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>>157804502

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhBykAA0D8

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>>157804502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DJsfTwzhE0#t=49m22s

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>>157804502
Go out and pretend to enjoy autumn.

https://youtu.be/WCJn9bAEhxI

>>157808567
The nose is something I've noticed across all your youthful faced characters that looks the same.

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>tfw dopey faced big boobed lobby dancing idleslutfu hasn't gone online in a few days
>have to settle dancing with their small chested teammate instead
Suffering.

>>157809006

Anything else and it would look horrendous to me (´・ω・`)

>>157809494
Not saying it's a bad thing, but a unique feature to identify you at a glance.

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>>157804502
I like
meseta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ9vkt7BHYI

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>>157804502
I HAVE A SECRET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL-lofmaSQQ

>>157809578
Kirsch and Kayleth both got flat nose syndrome

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>>157804502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJxkU10UvpE

>>157809764
Doesn't lilith have the thing too? Since him and Kirsch are clones or did the former manage to look different now?

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>>157804502
https://youtu.be/0nD9ilj5Lkg

>>157809736
Cute. Ship 4?

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>>157804502

>>157809736
I'M A CREATURE

WHAT COLOR IS THIS BLUE PLANET WE'RE ON

>fighter uses memebreak
>5 seconds later MOON PLEASE
Can't make this shit up.

>>157794050
You're entirely correct, yet completely missing the point at the same time. OT doesn't drop at max element, this is true. NT don't drop at max element either.

Getting a NT to +30 and having to use 30 weapons of the same type to get it to 60 ele because you can't get a second one to drop is still shit tier because you still need 5 more of the same type to get it from +30 > +35. Doing this with an OT is perfectly fine, because once it's +40, all that remains is the element to cap, you're not artificially limited on how high you can grind it because the rng hasn't rolled in your favour 6 times in a row.

If NT could be grinded to +35 after it was max ele, regardless of how many you've found, I would say that NT would be the superior option, but as it is it's a flawed piece of shit system.

>It costs too much to grind and it can fail!
you say that like 10m is a huge amount of money, people spend more than that for affixing an extra 25 attack on a weapon or units.

>>157809736
Waiting for shining stars to fall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6_DSQMQsvE

>>157798076
it really isn't, I just grinded an orbit to 40 yesterday and it only took me like 5 minutes and some cubes

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>>157811657
>I would say that NT would be the superior option, but as it is it's a flawed piece of shit system.

get with the times RETARD. kyuyu~

>>157811657
>+35
the difference between +32 NT and +35 NT is literally 0.3% of your total damage

Buy costumes. Buy 1-7 skip. Save lambdas and cubes.

If you've got the dosh that is.

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Lilipans need to be exterminated.

>>157811957
I hate you for clogging my inventory, so I don't even pick up anything you drop anymoree.

>>157811986
We're talking about drop only, so you're not going to get past +30. Regardless, while it might seem like a small amount it's sega purposely gimping you.

>>157812050
"But that costs more money!" so say the people who complain about OT grinding.

>>157812050
recycle tickets work too for skip-7

>>157805897
lewds of you and that stocking

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>>157812087
Yes, all lilipans must be purged

Now show your face, feggit

>>157812537
I did last maint.

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>>157804502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Ly6gDY6XY

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>>157804502
haha time to play pso2 again and fail because I forget how to play this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqYCwK4BZK0

Can't wait for Sega to tie in all phantasy star series game story into PSO2, because we are borderless. Border breaking the shit out of everything.

>>157810909
No, I'm on ship 2.

whenever I try to start the game I get a black screen.

When I try to close the client, I hear a menu popping up. What's the fix?

>>157813279
I think that was caused by one of the English patches being installed wrong if you're using any. I use the ones on the main site they're uploaded to: http://psumods.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=206

>>157813279
File check.

we orbits and shit now

>http://imgur.com/a/gcuDP/layout/grid

muh orbitz everything

>>157813279
check for old/missing files as always

>>157813597
Nice, glad I didn't bother making any orbits I didn't care about yet.

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>>157813270
I WANT TO FLY
SKY HIGH

>>157813597
>orbit double saber and katana
mine dicketh. The rest are shit, except maybe partisan?

>>157813597
>http://imgur.com/a/gcuDP/layout/grid
I don't see an orbit gunslash
where's my orbit gunslash

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>>157813597
>http://imgur.com/a/gcuDP/layout/grid
sweet, will this be a famitsu TD thing?
>>157814296
Maybe this?

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>>157813597
>Orbit Double Saber

>>157813597
the gunslash kinda invalidates most of them, lol
anyway, gix potential where

>>157814402
That's the rifle, the one on the right side of that column is the gunslash.

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>>157814735
But this has a barrel and a trigger...

>>157814676
Believe it or not, some orbit weapons are good to actually use.

>>157814793
When my download finishes, I'll let you know which is which. While you're probably right.but I could see it going either way.

Holy shit orbit gunslash! Infinite PP Fo/Te casting here we come

Orbit arm and rear unit when

>>157815102
make them 12*, give them a lot of pp and attack but no hp, and saiki will truly be B T F O.

Gix Potential where?

>>157812224
Yeah, you can always go the scratch method and ditch the trash ya don't want too. I just prefer buying from player shop then turning those in. Though sometimes the 100% great success are the cheapest route from what I've seen to buy up and turn into skips.

>>157814296
Do you guys by any chance keep a gallery of the general memes?

>>157814825
Launcher, TMG's, Talis, Knuckles. Yup.

>>157815875
I'd argue that the only one that isn't really useful is wand actually.

>>157812537
Post more wacky Lisa (Risa) pictures.

>>157816026
I guess bow would be good for katana Br to get back PP but considering how fast you can from just left click seems like it'd be overkill yeah?

>>157814296
why is there a Huey card? Is his stuff going to be in the stargem scratch?

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Do these say anything about the potential or no? I'm bad at japanese

>>157816131
I really like mine on td4 since the pp recovery means a lot less downtime and randoms are usually pretty shit at killing exodas

>>157816360
So far I got launcher first then talis afterwards. Leaving the talis at 20 and only using it for utility but 60'd the launcher since it's damage rivals austere and already got austere rifle.

With the weakhit ring I'm really really tempted to make my next austere a launcher but since I prefer rods over talis in Fo/Te I'm leaning towards that.

I play Ra/Hu main but Fo/Te in circumstances where we don't really need more than one.

Some day I'll finish the affixes for Fi/Hu... some day...

There's just such little drive to play melee in this game though. So much punishment for not much output.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5CBhPDQDr4

Enjoy some new /v/ musical shit while we wait.

>>157816145
his stuff is in the new scratch that just went up
http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/

>>157816145
His stuff is going to be in todays scratch:
http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/ac/20161019/

>>157816131
If you're br/ra, the damage for bow is actually quite high. Using rapid shoot with the standard hybrid tree results in you getting back 60pp in a single charged normal while it's active, which is quite solid and allows for the upkeep of using it.

>>157816742
>http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/ac/20161019/
What a meh scratch unless you really like Nimue or Thief Arthur.

>Gix pot increased damage by only 6%

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>>157804502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWMNY0Kx4Aw

>>157816974
I haven't messed with Br/Ra much outside of what old builds are like. It seems circumstantial and I prefer Ra/Hu since from my perspective it's more adaptable.

>>157817823
I thought they said Gix would increase damage "under certain conditions", and that the drop weapons would be "defensive"

20% damage reduction and permanent super armor (?) sound quite defensive too me, and the 6% seems to be unconditional.

>>157816679
Glorious.

>>157817823
that potential isn't conditional, it's probably for one of the boss weapons
Also 6% and comes with massive hunter.

>>157818001
Maybe the push for 12*'s and defensive weapons means Ult Amduscia mobs/bosses are going to hit like tanks. The downside is outside of Ult it's pointless...

>>157818108
If it's basically a permanent massive hunter while you have the weapon, knuckles are going to be amazing.

>>157816349
I don't think it does, but my Japanese is pretty poor, too.

>>157818161
I will be lasering the shit out of everything forever.
Sat cannon spam all day every day.
Well that or end attract considering these bosses are look like they'll be mobile as fuck.

>6% extra damage, 20% less damage taken and no knockback
actually amazing potential given the raw stats

whens the server going to be up

is there a website for this shit

>>157818697
It's actually about Austere's level

>>157818813
Servers are generally scheduled to come back up at 3am CDT, but they can come up earlier

http://pso2.jp/players/ is the site for it

>>157818813
http://www.bumped.org/
As well.

>>157818495
It's apparently for the the drop only weapons, not gix. So knuckles/wand/wired lance (no idea if jet butts would get the same potential being a different boss weapon).

>>157819190
Welp. Stuck with austere for eternity.

>>157819190
>wired lance
REEEEEEEE
I'M ALREADY USING AUSTERE

>(In regards to Anga) Lottery number of drop item by site destruction is reduced.
So... is this confirmation that breaking Anga parts increases droprate?

>>157819359
The curse of austere is you're happy when you get it but then you realize that part of the chase for weapons is dead for you in the game until something better comes along.

Then you get to regret all the energy you put into getting it.

That's true for any grindy weapon though in every MMO. FF14 comes to mind.

>>157819801
While true, you get like the datamined orbits, which is "hey shit I NEED this, austere be damned".

>>157819967
datamined orbits?
expound on this?
new orbits inbound?

>>157820037
Orbits for everything
Orbits for everyone

>>157820037
>>157813597

>>157820063
But already got 60'd orbit launcher and 60'd austere...

So... I have nothing to look forward to?

>>157820126
That's the curse of only playing one class, I suppose.

>>157820126
gunslash orbit maybe?

>>157820241
Well no... I mean I've got everything 75 but most effort is into Ra/Hu.

Already got talis for Fo/Te so... rod would be a waste...

I'm not really sure what else could benefit from anything else?

Jetboots might be cool.

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>Orbit Double Saber's 3rd normal attack will give almost 87PP per use with Crazy Heart
Jesus christ.

>>157820407
I've stared at this picture for 5 minutes. I don't get it.

>>157813597
VIVIAN AAAAAAAAH

>>157820324
Have you not seen sheathed pot1 casting? orbit gunslash be new meta, even if it'll have somewhat shitty t-atk by comparison to rods (1050).

It's from the golden age of s-roll infinite fire GU.

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>>157820637
Relic of the past, Anon.

Don't worry about it.

>>157820734
Ah, didn't occur to me. You could Fo/Te and never bring it out by casting from hotbar eh?

Seems legit.

>>157820803
You can't say that shit then post another one anon.
That's cruel.

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>>157820915
It's nothing important, trust me.

>>157820803
>pre shunka
Is there one for the shunkastar age?

>>157820803
>>157821048
That 2nd one at least made a little sense.

Br was crap, Te was only good for Fo. Hu was only good for subclass for Gu and Fi... WB (i guess Ra was only WB then) looking smug cause always wanted.


Am I close?

>>157821048
>GU x

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>>157821080
I remember seeing one but I didn't save it, I regret that now.

>>157821109
Something like that, yeah.

>>157821283
Hard to imagine a point where Fo/Te was neglected.

What were those days like?