/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless Legend and 4X Games

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Who else /marathon/ speed?

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>be chilling out in my empire researching and chill
>suddenly fanatical purifiers declare war on me
>defend myself and my galaxy by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

How come in every Civ game units become obsolete before you can even use them?

>>157644724
try epic or marathon speed you dumb shitter

>>157644647
I played a marathon game with China, planted probably 50 cities before I picked an ideology.
Religion with Pagodas is invaluable, and I almost always settled on top of luxury resources, and my cities were mostly low pop.
The AI hated me though, planting too many cities too quickly triggers its autism and there were crusades against me all game long.

>>157644647
Post your mod list. Whats with these icons, is this some full on Warcraft conversion?
Moreover, do they have unit skins and abilities, or is it just a generic spearman/crossbowman every time?

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>>157644673
>be chilling in my communist block
>suddenly fascists declare war on me
>defend myself and my land by killing them, raping their women, stealing their shit, and annexing half their country
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>157644849
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=164781590

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>>157644938
>implying people would call them bad guys if they weren't commies

Why did nobody warn me endless legend was so hard.

>>157644989
It actually doesn't look too nice. Few unique units, no unique techs and social policies.
I thought it would be a hardcore full conversion.

If there are any modders here I'd totally be down to make a full conversion for Civ VI when it comes out, I can code.
Of course we'd start some time in january, because we'd be busy playing initially.

FOUR DAYS
OA
UY
RS

>>157644748
dont do this

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>>157645215
Same basic guide as in high difficulty Civilization - Don't play Sim City.
Yes, having an extra archer is worth more than having an amphitheater.

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>>157645241
>It actually doesn't look too nice. Few unique units, no unique techs and social policies.

I just like the theme of it. I do the same with Adventure Time civs or Elder Scrolls. Just fun

Plus I'm a casual

>>157645297
Fuck, Alt+255 doesn't work anymore?

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>>157644961
>tfw stock market crash

>>157645321
unless you're going culture

the correct thing to say is 'have a plan'.

>>157645357
Only for 4chan pass user
baka

>>157645430
Having extra units is also better for going culture.

>>157645430
the plan is having units

>>157645550
that is one plan

Should Civ VI reintroduce Random Events like
>Great Depression - All cities generate -50% gold
>Dust Bowl - All tiles generate 4 less food
>The Plague - All cities lose -20 growth
>Religious Epiphany - A new religion is founded in your City

Anyone got the Civ Roller?

ÿ
Why does this happen with Alt-255?

>>157645645
Yes. They provide variety and additional difficulty, forcing you to adapt to things that are beyond your control. Also, if you don't like them, you can just turn them off when setting the game up.

>>157644938
history says you weren't though

>>157645587
Its the best plan.
Having more units works as both a way to win, and a way to prevent others from winning.
While you are building units, everyone else also has to switch to building units, or you win.
It takes one person to start building up and everybody else in the region has to follow suit.

>>157645357
not for some time

>>157645935
Commonly taught history does teach that they did all those things.
But it also teaches that those things are fine so long as your foe doesn't like jews.

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>>157645812

>>157645971
Defensive bonuses/terrain mean that you could need an unrealistic force size compared to theirs.
Conquering/going wide can also be negative if you're not set up to deal with that as well.

>>157646034
I know that's what I meant; history says they weren't the bad guys.

>>157646113
I thought so, just making sure.

>>157646058
Thanks.

>>157645645

I would like if Random Events did things that forced you to change, or atleast reconsider, your playstyle/build in a serious way rather than just "lol random shit."

Like, as a function, the Great Depression disables your Commercial Districts as if they've been pillaged, or Religious Skepticism makes you incapable of faith buying in some or your cities.

I really like random events as a concept, because it rubs my roleplaying autism the right way. I just think that in terms of gameplay, Random Events need to be more than just "lol scrub, hope you don't mind getting fucked."

>>157646058
Roll

>>157646706
The problem with making them too severe is that players who were already playing in a way that wouldn't get affected that much by random event X are put at an advantage for no particular reason.

Like if player A is going for a culture victory, and player B is warmongering, then a random event that penalizes culture severely enough to force them to re-prioritize to another victory condition entirely has their chosen playstyle completely invalidated out of the blue, but player B just keeps on rolling out units because lol who needs culture?

>>157647389
That argument scales to removing any rng from the game. Slippery slope, someone has to suffer. Just make the events short term enough. How many more Golden Ages does a civ need to have before it's an auto-win?

>>157646058
Rollan

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>>157646058
Rolling as for another comfy start.

>>157647389

>>157646706 here. I was thinking about that, and some element of player control/direction would make sense.

Like a 'Global Crisis' screen that sits opposite the new 'Great Person' screen, and certain things build up to different global crises in different eras. Like tons of missionaries and apostles dying in the middle ages could set up the Plague to come, and too many banks or commercial districts would set up the world for the Great Depression.

Who gets effected by the Global Crisis would be random or pseudo randomly determined, or could be influenced by certain factors.

I totally agree to your problem, but if you're going to have a random element it either needs to be powerful enough to effect a player significantly, or widespread enough that it effects everyone together and everyone will be able to plan against it (like Winter in Endless Legend.)

>>157648001

In the same way players are able to buy Great Persons in a total abstraction of what was a random process IRL players should also be able to "buy" global crises. Have (((Saladin))) trigger a great migration crisis for example to weaken city happiness civs with amenities above some level, or whatever.

>>157644647
I always play Civ4 Col with Rel&Rev mod on marathon. Otherwise on epic.

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>When you occupy an enemy city the civ has to formally cede it to you either during the peace treaty or later during a trade, otherwise it counts as being illegally occupied and doesn't grow further

tfw I've just realised that I lose interest in 4x games once you have to expand to more than one city

Time to just play Cultists in EL and nothing else ever.

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hello lads, picked this up yesterday and played 9 hours in one sitting, is the new DLC worth?

Bit of a newb though, minimal experience with Civ5, I mostly played simcity and ended up with the science victory. Any tips would be appreciated.

Well, I just found out that when making an outpost, you can do an outpost action and if you don't deem it worth it, you can click it again to undo.

>>157649418
The new dlc turns oceans from "literal wastelands that you have to cross sometimes" to "absolute mayhem with monsters and forteresses that everyone want to grab while trying to not getting rekt by a thunderstorm". Also a water faction.

>>157648884
What?

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Where to place this next city

is there a way to recreate stone age life and war

>>157650270

Whenever you capture an enemy city it counts as being occupied and that has some penalties on the city, the other civ has to formally cede that city to you for it to be properly yours.

Example
>Declare war of liberation on enemy civ to free a city state
>Free the city state
>Occupy one of the enemy cities while you're at it
>Get hit with a warmonger penalty because you used a liberation pretext to capture a chunk of territory for yourself
>During peace negotiations the enemy civ agrees to liberate the city state you fought over, but refuses to cede the city of theirs you captured. You refuse to give that city back to them
>The war ends and that city counts as being illegally occupied by you, with a resulting diplomatic penalty to other civs as long as the rival civ doesn't agree down the line to formally recognise the city as being yours.

>>157650270
Civ 6 adopted /gsg/ approach to war - you can occupy shit, but you only gain possession when you peace out or eliminate opposition.

>>157650429
>Stone age war
>Two tribes fighting for domination and inevitably leading to gangrape of the loser.

Such depth much gameplay

>>157650334
The southernmost of those AI suggestions.
Mountain + river + hill + coast = success

>Stellaris DLC in 4 days
>Civ VI in 5 days

This is gonna be a good week.

>>157651117
>Started playing EL to ease myself over
>Tfw more interested in EL than Civ6

>>157651250
I'm honestly more interested in Stellaris than the other two simply because of my massive space boner. I'm just afraid all of the issues from launch are still there and they just tacked more stuff on.

>>157649743
>>157650280
>>157650601
>>157651338
I can't be arsed to play American Conquest because defeating the AI is such a fucking slog. Most tolerable approach I can get is parking cannons and line formations outside their range, shell them to hell and raid with cavalry. Fuck storming buildings.

>>157651324
Hate to repeat myself, but Stellarises flaws stem from design decisions. 3 in particular,from bad to worse.
>Lack of focus on either peace or war. >Casuals above all else, meaning no mapmodes, sector are forced, UI desperately trying to hide underlying mechanics, I'm looking at you, tech tree.
>Randomized universe, meaning no unique/interesting factions

The last one alone is enough to kill a game, I don't see 1.3 solving any of these.

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>>157651424
Thats what I´m doing all the time when playing european factions
There is really no other way of doing that without suffering 10 times more casualties

preload when?

>>157651789
Also Sioux are absolutely dog shit.

>hunting and fishing only
>cavalry is made slooooooooowly

>>157651117
what's the stellaris dlc include?

>3 more days
why couldnt leviathans come out early so ease this wait god fucking dammit

>>157652056
Giant spess monsters
Fallen Empires becoming woke
Space stations that function like mini civs that you can trade with (or crack open like an egg to feast on the sweet gooey technology within)

As usual with Paradox games the DLC is released simultaneously with a general gameplay patch that everyone gets, which will restructure planet types and ship design

>>157652056
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Developer_diaries

tldr version; fixed diplomacy, fixed strategic resources, minor NPC factions like pirates/drones have their own territory now, combat overhaul, new independent NPC states, new missions and events for the mid game and a bunch of QoL improvements

The paid part adds in the War in the Heavens event which is basically one fallen vs another fallen and every race has to pick a side as well as the leviathans which are a bunch of mid game bosses with unique effects if you beat them.

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>>157652274
oh so not just dlc but patching a lot of shit too? That's good. Been a few months since I've played it. Prob waste time with civ 6 before I give it another shot though.

>>157651863
The only upside is that they have the best archers in the game that outrange even Fusiliers

>>157652274
>Stellaris
>Vast majority of the update is free, some of it is not
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-46-enclaves.969801/

>HoI4
>Two features
>One is paid, one is free
>The paid part is the ability to order a Blitz, a fundamental tactic used during WW2
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-development-diary-october-12th-2016.973797/

Oh Paradox.

>>157652536
Wiz vs Podcat. Nuff said.

>>157646058
rollll

>>157646058
Rorru

>>157652274
>fixed x
>fixed y
I'll elieve it when I see it.

>>157653610
You can see it right now. They posted all the changes in those logs, and we have gameplay footage

>>157646058
Roll

>>157646058
roll

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> liberate planets
> create space Turkey
W-what have I done

>>157655496
You know what you have to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67JpMyrOVE

Where's the god damned EL roll chart?

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I'm about to play Galactic Civilizations for the first time

What faction do I pick and how do I get good?

>>157656995
Why would you play galciv1?

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>>157656995
Galactic Civilizations 2
my bad

Are the robot people suitable for starters?

>>157656995
Which GalCiv?

The general answer for any faction, however, is that you should expand fast and conquer early.

Is it fun to go for the cheevios on Civ V or are they tedious?

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How do i gift ships to bastions?

the button isn't there

In EL, do special buildings work as extractors when placed on resource or does that only apply to basic borough?

>>157657271
Only extractors and districts.

>>157657083 Just pick which ever suits you more, they all are quite different. If you want something straight forward, humans would do.

>>157657179
Depends on the cheevo, imo.

There's all the simple obligatory "win with each civ/feature/difficulty/map once" which encourage you to try everything out.

There's MOST of the civ-specific cheevos which push you to try some kind of related strategy without a grind (England's "sink 357 ships" can fuck off), though especially in the later expansions they can get incredibly specific and hard to pull off.

There's all the Scenario specific ones which want you to try them out as all sides/difficulties, with maybe a few chase ones.

Then there's just the flat grind of "buy 1000 tiles across all games" which suuuuucks.

>>157657309
Well that sucks. So basically if new resource pops on temple or megapole or something it's impossible to collect it?

>>157657269
Just talk to them again using the exact number of ships they want.

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[DEPORTATION INTENSIFIES]

>>157657973
MY EXTRAORBITAL CORPS ARE TOO POWERFUL TO LET THIS GAME END

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>Can't play Stellaris for 10 minutes without getting bored and shutting it down
>Can play CiV for hours on end

Wherefore

>>157657083
>not picking the all female slut race
Shiggy diggy. Or is that distant worlds?

>>157658108
Civ V is the plebeian's game of choice

>>157658108
Its okay to like different things anon

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>>157658162
No, it's fucking not.

I don't "like" or "dislike" things, I prefer one thing over another because of objective standards and rational reasons.

Anyone who disagrees with my taste in any way is just plain wrong, end of story.

How do you actually pursue a military victory in 4x games

Specifically EL

Are you supposed to plop down a few cities and then immediately start shitting out units?

>>157657596
It was my understanding that basically everything counts as a district, the city center counts for example. I can't say 100% that the wonders do but they act like districts otherwise. Be interested to see if, for some readon, you decided to put Abbey of Anomalies on a resource it would extract. Same with Luxury Enhancer in Strategic etc

>mfw I like how deep turn-based games are
>but I can't play them because either I become negligent and lose a 3-hours long game
>or fucking fall asleep

I'm not exagerrating. Last time I played Endless Legend, I fucking FELL ASLEEP WHILE PLAYING.
And I wasn't really tired, no. I was moving my elf bunny army around, I nodded off, and I wake up later.
With drool all over my shoulder.

>>157658468
Conquer early and conquer fast.

>>157658468
Basically yes. I think I get where you're coming from since its easy to give into "but if I make this first I can research better units/make them faster" etc.

Particularly in EL, having an army or two of 6 units, potentially with Titanium weapons, can pretty much doom a faction who went for infrastructure

>>157657928
thanks senpai

>>157657494
>some get very specific
The most ridicilulous is the Raiders of the Lost Ark
>Have an American Archeologist complete an excavation on Egyptian land, when there is a German Archeologist nearby
How often will the fucking stars align to make that happen?

Is GMG the best place so far to get Civ VI?

>>157658378
I like your shitpost, it made me giggle

>>157658528
Personally I think EL is really poorly made and overhyped on /civ4xg/ so you're not alone

>>157659347
I'd say hrkgaming if you're from some country whose currency's worth nears zimbabwean dollars

>>157659459
EL has way more to do per turn than most other 4x's though

Fallen Enchantress is the only one I can think of where you're doing more

>>157659459
Yeah. Or maybe I'm just bad with turn-based games.

>>157659623

Is FA any good? I hear it was terrible on release so they re-released it and then re-re-released it.

>>157659782
Legendary Heroes is decent

I can't remember if it's got the same combat system (the best part of the game) but Sorceror King's the closest thing to a follow up

>>157659313
I set up at least 3 saves with the specific intention of encouraging that to happen and still didn't get anywhere close

>>157659727
Different strokes. Not every game clicks even when it might make sense otherwise that they should. You'll find other 4x turn based games you enjoy if you look often enough.

>>157659556
Yeah, it's cheaper, but they're a key reseller (G2A sub-site to be exact), not an actual distributor like GMG. I'll pass.

>>157659967
I honestly doubt so. I played a lot of 4x, from Master of Magic to Civ5, with the Endless games, Age of Wonders, even Heroes of Might and Magic, Dominions 4 and Total Wars.
I just don't have fun with turn-based games. Building anything takes age, so I play my turn, quietly, and all of a sudden, there's an enemy army walking all the way from the fog of war to my capital and sieging me.
Or I just plain fall alseep.

I really try to like these games, but I just get bored or nervous when I play for too long.

is there any way to retrofit a unit design into a different design entirely? I'm asking because I have 2 different unit types for one of my infantry units, one is cheaper which is why I call it "ghetto".

I have a "ghetto" unit that I want to upgrade to the different, more expensive design. Is this possible without changing the ghetto design entirely?

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>>157660120

I'm new to this kind of thing, why exactly is a key reselling site bad?

I've purchased from them and recieved what I paid for.

0.02$ has been deposited into my account

>>157660181
No.

>>157660236
Well fuck, senpai

>>157660215
g2a sell stolen shit a lot, sell on your details and spam you with emails

Plus the keys are often purchased with stolen credit cards.

There's a significant chance of your key being revoked down the line, and the small saving isn't worth the risk

>>157660339
>sell on your details

Uh, shit. I didn't give them a credit card number because I don't have one. Should I still be concerned?

>>157660215
You might:
>Get a fake/non-working key
>Get a key bought with a stolen credit-card
>Get a key bought with a legit credit-card, but after you buy the key, the guy does chargeback and they trace the key to you
>Get a key stolen from a trade
And even if the key is 100% legit, it's still against the TOS of most games to sell keys online if you're not an official distributor. And the chance of getting a non-legit key is very high if you're buying the newest, hottest release. I only buy DLC from them once in a blue moon, and only if it was released at least half a year before.

>>157660457
Nah it's just giving your email address out to spammers from what I've experienced

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I'm starting to like these maritime mechs

So uh
Is Civ6 good?

>>157661034
It could be a good game if the setting wasn't so abysmal
Just like Civ V

Pretty sad, really

>EL has a doshlords faction
>gypsy fucks make more dust than them

Expansion disapproval remains a dumb concept designed exclusively to punish the player.

>>157661314
Water is wet

>>157661314
It's an okay concept but no 4x ever rewards building tall enough to make it matter

I suppose the problem is that building tall is a passive decision with you just choosing not to expand

>>157661443
I'd be more ok with it if it applied equally to the AI.

Instead the player gets stuck constantly dealing with low approval with two expansions while the AI shits out 30+ expansions and fervent approval.

It's just an extremely lazy way to increase difficulty. This is why the strategy genre is basically dead.

What's a way to a fast conquest victory in civ5 diety? even if I somehow manage to shit out enough compbows or crossbows early enough to get an advantage over the ai on the ATTACK (lol) how the fuck will I deal with having basically no buildings or money or happiness since I have conquered cities and a huge army and no non-military techs

>>157661114
Oh look, the contrarian is back.

>>157661164
It may or may not be because doshlords aren't an economy focused faction.

>>157661592
>I am bad there for the game is bad.
I'ts okay to dislike things, anon, but your reasoning and claims are retarded.

>>157662168
Short version - conqest is about capitals more so than anything else, buildings are overrated, and if you don't have money, you are doing it wrong.

Long version
http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/domination-on-immortal-deity-a-noobs-guide.547630/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY7aRJE-oOY
Don't want to meme or anything, but it really make you think...

>>157662602
Can you sum that video up?

I don't have the energy to watch it right now

>>157661034

It kept most of the mechanics from V with the expansion packs, with plenty of tweaks that seem to improve the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsYjZxX8Xac
>make space great again
Fucking Trump.

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>>157662682
Basically, it's about the experience Sid Meier as Game Designer and what he learns from it.
One of the biggest point of the that is that psychological stuff takes a big place in the Game Design unlike logical stuff.

You can also read the first comments that are actually interesting.

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>>157663232
>Cheats are questionable
What a colossal cunt

>>157663090
>fucking space bosses
is the horrendous combat system being fixed

>>157663268

>"If they had friends they wouldn't be playing video games"-Sid Meier

He never gave a shit about multiplayer

>>157663232
>protecting the player
>from themselves
fuck you cunt

>>157663335
>space bosses
>not awesome
End thyself

And yes, this update completely changes combat

>>157646058
Rolling for civ and map

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>>157663268
You should watch the video.
The point of "Cheats are questionable" is not about "CHEATS ARE BAD BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR", it's actually more about the fact cheats are maybe funny like having cars and mechas during the Medieval Age, but this is not the experience the game designer wants to offer for his game since cheats are basically cheating.

>>157663430
Not every player is dedicated as fuck to video games and every mechanics, and it can happen a player fucks his own experience of a game...

>>157663769
>but this is not the experience the game designer wants to offer for his game since cheats are basically cheating.
Spoiler alert; no one gives a flying fuck what the game designer wants

Its that sort of bullshit reasoning thats the reason we dont have fun cheats in games like GTA anymore, more most modern games at all.

>>157663769
But video games aren't about what the game designer want. They're about what the customer want.

Otherwise, it's playing a tabletop game with some cunt who kill your character the second you get out of his railroading story.

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>tfw you can never decide if you want to train a hero as a general or a governor

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>>157663984
>They're about what the customer want.

>>157664085
>its in a quote so its right
When you start taking advice from coked up hollywood faggots you know you've hit rock bottom

>>157664221
And yet he is right. That's why full democracy doesn't hapen.

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>>157664221
Are you saying there are false quotes on the Internet?

>>157664392
No, it fucking isnt what so ever. And its ironic as shit since because of people telling him what they wanted he changed his movies for them.

So well done posting something that the person who said doesn't even believe in.

>>157660304
just change the design back after you upgrade, you can downgrade designs however you want.

>>157664392
ur a fucking retard

>>157664085
>Dont give people what they want!
>proceeds to spend hundreds of millions on movies in response to criticisms for giving them that give people what they want and not what they need
Well done Joss, you sure showed us. More explosions you faggot.

>>157664483
>>157664520
It's nice to see such a well reasoned arguments, anons. By the way, not the guy posting Joss.

>>157664632
>trying to pretend to be someone else to save face
Pathetic.

>>157664001
Having heroes also be spies fucking sucks

I love spies but it's impossible to get one until super late

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Warping in-system so the enemy starts in range of ALL your tachyon lances rather than just the front few, gets me sexually excited

ES2 is pretty fun
I'm cautiously excited for the full release

>>157664950
enjoy it while you can they are about to get nerfed

but XL weapons are coming so thats okay

>>157664950
I wonder if they realise for weapons to be useful at that range they'd have to be ftl or worse yet - saturation.

>>157665215
Predictive algorithms

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>>157665215
Tachyons *are* FTL, aren't they?
What do you mean by saturation?

Morgawr are damn strong. You don't need to research any sort of extractors, your fortresses do all the lifting for you.

civ 6 torrent when?

>>157664085
>Joss Wheadon

>>157665329

It's not even out yet you fucktard.
Go play 5 or something.

>>157665302
At the range where neither side knows where the other is, it's less prediction more guesswork.

>>157665313
>Tachyons *are* FTL, aren't they?
By defenition, sure, but again, if you have FTL warfare, you need FTL sensors, if you have those, warfare changes radically, since battles strain causality.
>What do you mean by saturation?
Shooting every point ship may be.

>>157651649
They just have to make the species more unique it won't matter if they are random after that.
More portraits, ship models and traits will do the trick I think.

>>157665321
And with the other minor boosts it means they can focus on military and still keep up on economy, especially since everyone else needs to actually set aside the tech and potentially a good city spot to contest fortresses or risk getting land locked and hit with Dust penalties

>>157665780
>At the range where neither side knows where the other is,
Yes they do, tracking objects in a vacuum is piss fucking easy

>>157655496
Ah fuck you faggot.

>>157663232
>modding is good
>picture from Fall from Heaven 2

Sid has god tier taste.

>>157665827
You are confusing unique with varried. More variety adds jackall to the game as it is now, see Plants. You need depth, you can't have depth with random factions, you just can't. The best you can hope for is a set of depth packages picked randomly at gen, but given their aversion to unique factions, even that is unlikely to happen

>>157665886
LMAO, those are ships you are shooting at. they tend to have engines. And any change in acceleration would require adjustment to prediction, thus given a working warship, only useful thing predictive algorithm can provide is target for saturation fire.

>>157666163
>those are ships you are shooting at
Yes, and they are easy as fuck to track. As is the capabilities of a ships movement and the possibilities of where it could go. Particularly when the guns you are firing hit in the size of a medal and the ships you shoot at hundreds of meters to kilometers wide its piss easy to hit things at long range.

If you don't believe me go to the NASA website and look yourself, they've theory crafted all this shit already and proven long range space warfare is not only achievable but highly likely.

>>157666163
You've been playing too much ED. Realistic space combat is slow, boring and predictable.

You're also a total fucking moron for bitching about space combat in a fictional setting.

>>157646058
Roll

what does this board think of freeciv

>>157666414
If that's real I want a link, it would be an interesting read.

>>157666601
Fist, and foremost, I just found silliness on display in that pic amusing, the only reason anything was said beyond the initial sentiment is that people, like you, started defending it. Secondly, slow, sure, boring, depends on your nerves, predictable? Fuck no. Again the pic related isn't some ships in near orbit engaiging in antics. They are two fleets engaged in combat at range bigger than that between local star and it's gas giant. Predicting anything, at that range, is essentially gambling.

>>157665665
yes it is. plenty of youtubers already got advanced copies.

>>157646058
no nigger nation pls

Are there any turnbased games with a scale like 4x but totally focused on combat?

>>157670391
Total War?
Utawarenumono?
Sengoku Rance?

Are they calling it a "story pack" to excuse them from not fixing the game?

>>157667675
>this board

>>157671160
[x] Respectfully disagree.

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>>157670391

Total War: Attila

That's your shit right there anon.

>>157646058
Raul.

Did they fix something to do with Endless Legends and graphics cards? Used to make mine run absurdly hot compared to other games, now it's a lot more reasonable.

>>157671978
No one on this earth could answer your question.

>>157672148
Good answer

Does Dominions 4 count as a 4x?

>>157670391
Total War has turn based overworld with army building and whatnot and lots of RTS battles.

Shogun 2 has pretty minimal overworld management and I think it's the best entry to the series.

I would recommend staying away from /twg/

>>157671553
Attila is my favorite too

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What is the benefit of playing tall / Tradition in the CBP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYdtN6iHJ5c

Launch Trailer

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>>157673573
He dies in the plane...

pre-load time baybee

>>157673573
AND THE ENGLISH ONE THAT ISN'T FUCKING GERMAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KdE0p2joJw

>>157673689
>>157673573
>Sean Bean dies in WWII

TOP KEK

For fuck's sake, Sean.

>>157673689
Seeeeaaaan....

You can preload now. And the game comes out 0:00 Friday ET too

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>Civilization VI is not available in Cuba, Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Myanmar, North Korea and East Timor

>>157674226
>Can't play at midnight because I have to wait for the 25th anniversary edition to be delivered

Damn my disposable income

>>157674226
>3AM

why

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>>157674350
You are not alone, anon...
We have to be strong, together.

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Oh hi Poland

hello where are the south american civs¿¿¿

>>157674352
oh wait nevermind, they're all the same timezones, so I get it at 12PM in my side

>>157674403
At least everyone will be jelly of our commemorative coins

>>157674419
Why is le Civilizationman leading a bunch of poles?

>>157673689
>Winged Hussar in the trailer
>Poland isn't in the base game
kek

The girl's the adviser in the game, isn't she?

>>157674007
>>157674148
>>157673709
it doesn't seem like he died... right? like he crouched on those bullets?

it doesn't matter anyway, he and his wife seem to be immortal

>>157674679
Well she looked pretty sad when she looked at his picture

>>157674226
Why Kosovo tho

>>157674552
she's a qt

>>157674872
Because it's not a country :^)

>>157674872
Warzone

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I have to say, the new art style hasn't grown on me. I wish we'd have an attempt at a "serious" look for it, rather than the stylized one, especially stuff like the builders doing some Looney Tunes dust cloud dance when they repair tiles.

>>157674485
He is leading them away from Poleland and towards civilization.

>>157674226
Why doesn't Best Korea get it?

>tfw you used your available moneys this month on energy drinks instead
don't do drugs kids

I don't have an SSD, is it better to just download it at release than preload? I hear unpacking can take hours unless you have an SSD.

So, Stellaris gives you the option to change your leader's title -- Executive to Emperor, for example.

But once you enhance your government, it automatically changes back to the upgraded version of the original title -- Emperor to Chief Executive Officer.

I can't find a way to change it again myself once the game has started. Am I just not seeing the option, or doesn't it exist?

>>157675312
If you can download the entire game in under 20 minutes.

>>157674226
Is Greenland in the EU?

>>157675158
Only one to be able to play it would be Kimmy.

>>157675385
Greenland is a part of Denmark so ye.

>>157675385
No, they left the EEC before it became the EU. However, it has close ties to the EU, because it's technically a Danish territory and Denmark is in the EU.

>>157673689
>Sean Bean dies in ANOTHER universe
Does he like burning bridges?

>>157674226
getting that asian vpn ready to unlock on steam early lads

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I come bearing a question to you /4xg/

What will acquire me more fun this Friday? Breaking open my wallet and picking up Civ VI or grabbing all the Endless Legend expansions for a fraction of the price?

>>157673689
>polish hussars on trailer
>no Poland

Triggered

>>157675892
The Endless Legend weekend sale is over though.

>>157675831
He made a deal with the devil. He gained acting talent but the cost was that he must die a thousand times over.

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So if builders and settlers increase in production as you build more of them, thus limiting you going too wide too fast, does their gold cost also increase?

Is it possible to decrypt it?

>>157675892
>Possibly castrated game to fit in more DLCs later
vs
>Game polished and refined for 2 years

I sure know what my choice is.

>>157675979
poland and spain alternate are already confirmed through leaks so they are first dlc packs obviously

>>157676045
anything's possible but you never see it done

>>157676014
So why hasn't he stopped dying in movies past 2005? He is way over by now.

>>157676075
>>>Game polished and refined for 2 years

>tfw want to do comfy EL quests but the gameplay feels like a frustrating chore.

>>157676018
Extremely likely.

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>>157676006

>>157674226
>available in iraq, afghanistan

Impressed.

>>157675892

I'd say go with Endless Legend DLC (assuming you don't mind EL's slow game pace) but I'm a grognard that always thinks the last iteration of Civ was better than the current one until there's at least one major expansion.

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>>157649418
>is the new DLC worth?
It's mandatory.

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>>157676092
>poland and spain alternate are already confirmed through leaks so they are first dlc packs obviously

-5 days DLC

>>157676018
>>157674226
>not available in Cuba
Didn't they finally dropped the embargo or whatever?

>>157676404
I'm not even a Grognard but I still think Civ4 was the best one, even though Civ5 improved a lot with its expansions.

Especially since Civ4 has a bunch of really good mods, and Civ5 mods are just... meh.

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>>157657269
>turn 522

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>>157676481

Cuban govt heavily restricts internet access to citizens. If it's a Steam release it's probably not allowed.

>>157676297
So building a settler and having another player capture is is a huge swing, huh? Especially now that the captured unit remains a settler, that you can use to forward settle that player instantly.
Their production cost goes up, yours stays down, and you clearly have troops there. The early game will be savage.

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>>157670391
Age of Wonder 3
Disciples
HoMM
King's Bounty

>>157670391
Age of Wonders 3 seems like EXACTLY what you want.

Does anyone know of that civ5 mod that adds 20+ ancient Civs, expands the tech tree from pre-ancient to late-classical? That is, an entire game featuring ancient/classical Civs and the tech tree altered sppropriately to be locked to those periods?

>>157670391
HoMM V is pretty good

>>157676864
>>157677108
I played like 30m of aow but it seemed pretty standard, guess I'll give it another shot

>>157670391
Try Master of Magic or Age of Wonders 3.

sean bean is kind of a jerk to be honest
his wife asked one simple question and he leaves her behind for a few thousand years before dying without ever answering her

Are there naval heroes in EL that aren't the new race?

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>>157673689
>>157673573
>no Russia in the trailer
BRAVO Firaxis

>>157677409
It has very little in terms of developing your land and cities, so you don;t sit back and play Sim City or "get comfy". Its a war game, and its all about battles and moving armies around.
Also fights scale quite nicely, from the 4 man party killing bandits early to the 20 troop armies with overleveled heroes full of items later.

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>>157677632
The game isn't releasing in Russia as a form of protest against the annexation of Crimea.

>>157677632

At least there are no WE WUZ KANGZ shit promoting that all our civilization was build by brown/black skinned inventors and philosophers

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>>157675892
>or grabbing all the Endless Legend expansions for a fraction of the price?
This. But you do know you can grab ALL of the Endless games, not only Legend for $20, right?

>>157677781
I never understood how Dungeon actually plays. As in, I tried it twice or thrice, and at no point was I aware of what I am doing nor formed any long term goals or strategies.

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>>157677740
And Aleppo. And US elections sabotage. And weakening GBP. And male pattern baldness...

Seriously, we're officially living in a 2nd Cold War right now.

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>>157677998
And forcing the japs to censor their games. Shame on you, Ivan Ivanovich Ivanosko.

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>>157678064
On second thought, nuke the commie fucks.

>>157676439
So, the first of my Special Edition Preorder Bonus DLC packs might as well be first-day DLC?

I'm not angry, just... disappointed.

>>157646058
r

>>157677201
Anno Domini?

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>>157677903
Lack of tutorial and being a unique game really kills it.

So, did you understand there are two phases? First one is calm: no monsters spawn, you can move your heroes around and construct building extra fast and power up rooms. This phase ends when you open a door. So you open a first room, kill the mobs with your heroes then power up the room when if you have the Dust for it. Then build defences or resource production modules in the room. When you're done, open a new door, survive the monster spawns and repeat until you've opened all doors/found the exit.

Once you've done that, you try to fortify a powered up corridor of rooms from the Crystal to the Elevator. Build defences. Grab the crystal and RUN towards the elevator because this starts endless enemy spawns. Once the crystal is in the elevator you can proceed to the next level. Rinse and repeat for 12 levels with increasing enemies, unlocking new modules and etc.

It is very fun once you understand it.

>>157678553
That's the one, thanks man.>>157678553
>>157678553

>we wuz kangz civ has culture bonuses and housing bonuses

why aren't they even using his real name afonso? don't want to seem racist even though he changed his own name?

>>157646058
rolling first world

>>157665313
>saturation
is russian strategery
fire so many boolet and missel that enemy is hit of regard to being found or hide

>>157678591
What bothers me with this game is how easily you can fuck it up.
Trying to be greedy and keep on exploring after finding the elevator? You'll get overrun.
Try to play safe and rush to the exit? You'll fall behind in research.

And it doesn't help that heroes sometimes kill each others.

>>157678765
Hey man, no problem.>>157678765
>>157678765

>>157678807
>germany, diplomacy
merkel begins

>>157646058
Let's see

>>157678864
Best strategy is to always open all doors before leaving a level. On the standard pod this is always doable once you learn the game, the special pods are more tricky.

Are you using chokepoints? You don't have the resources to fortify every room. Are you using at least one Operator hero to boost FIDS output?

>>157679236
Brazil Diplo/Cultural it is

>>157679304
You don't always have the ressources to make chokepoints. And you can't afford to have every spawn coming at you in the same time, because there are always enemies that ignore you and go straight for the crystal.

>>157679304
the biggest thing that always gets me is that it's really hard for me to visually make out the hero-killers before they start killing my heroes. I mostly get around it with always running to the turret rooms but sometimes that fucks me over.

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>>157679464
Have you considered the possibility that you suck at this game?

>no money saved from preordering
>can just wait and see if Civ 6 sinks or swims
Though it probably won't be worth playing until 2020 when you can grab the $200 FullTM CivTM SixTM ExperienceTM PackTM during a 66% off sale anyway.

>>157679623
>no arguments
Thanks for proving that this game can be safely skipped.

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>buy Shifters
>winter becomes something I look forward to
>build cavalry army geared specifically for fighting minors and covering as much ground as possible
>get cavalry hero with army movement skills
>get the empire plan that gives units +3 movement
>run around the map with my 14 movement army every winter grabbing pearls and beating up minorities

>>157679762
My argument is my personal experience of 100% wins at the standard pod once I got good. You keep saying it's impossible yet here I am.

>>157679892
>say it can't always be done
>"DUUUUUUUUUDE YOU SAY ITS IMPOSSIBLE JUST GIT GUD LOL"
Yep. That game can be safely skipped.

>>157679892
I'm actually a Gold Rank pvp DotE player and I know you're lying

>>157646058
keep me posted

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>>157646058

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>Sid Meier's Civilization VI 25th Anniversary Edition on Amazon
>Will be sent 24th October
>Will only receive it between the 26th and 28th October
They will send us a Key Steam the 21th October, r-r-right?

>>157677781
>>157677903
You're both correct

DotE is by miles the best roguelikelike but it's also obtuse as fuck to a new player

>most op civ is pre order bonus dlc

oy vey goyim builders on kills is totally balanced oh lets give this civ the ability to rush districts with builders too

Do we know if civ 6 will have Denuvo?

>>157680167
>21th

fuck off Mike go remove that stupid face tattoo

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>>157679984
>it's not me that's bad
>it's the game that's trash

>>157680218
considering you only get workers from players, not barbarians, its not that bad.

How do I interact with things at sea in Endless legends? I am an idiot who doesnt understand shit

>>157680082
reroll

>>157680260
BUT I DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK!

>>157680346
Did you get the expansion? Because without it you can't.

Will the Leviathans DLC be just as easy to pirate as the Plantoid DLC was?

>>157680485
Yeah, I have the expansion

>>157674957
Kosovo hasn't been a warzone for years

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AYYYY LMAO

https://youtu.be/5KdE0p2joJw

>>157680232

Most likely not, because mods.

>>157681178
theme song is great, anyone know where to find full version?

>>157680218
The Aztecs become available to everyone after a couple of months, stop whining or just pirate the pre-order version of the game

>>157680525
>as easy to pirate as the Plantoid DLC was?

Elaborate?

>>157681525
>The Aztecs become available to everyone after a couple of months, stop whining

that somehow makes it ok?

>>157680525
I sure hope so. Pirate Bay hasn't been very good this year
>>157681590
You could edit one line in a text file and receive the Plantoids DLC since it was basically already included in a Steam patch.

>>157681609

Yeah. It does.

It's the smartest way to give a preorder bonus without pissing off the fanbase.

>>157681590
you can get the Plantoid shit for free if you just go into the games files and change a few lines in some text files.

I'm hoping it will be the same for Leviathans

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>>157681178

>Man does all the work for the entirety of human history
>Fighting wars, making great wonders, pushing the boundaries of science
>In the last 10 seconds a woman steps in and takes all the credit

>>157681609
Its preferable to being entirely locked out of the pre-order content. Like I said, just pirate it if it makes you that upset

>>157681178

Sean Bean can't even survive a trailer

He dies in the modern era.

>>157681265
thanks for giving me hope

>>157673689
>that disgusting alien wife

oh ew what the fuck

>>157680595
You either build boats, or learn embarkments (shipyard tech era 2). Spoiler - exploring seas with an embarked army is a quick one way ticket to needing a new army.

>>157681178
YER PLOTTIN A NEW CORS AGIN ARNTCHU?

What's your favorite CIV V civ, why
What's your CIV VI civ you're most looking forward to, why

>>157681869
I'm pretty sure that was intentional. I'm also pretty sure they are morons who don't understand what they are implying with their message of equality.

>>157682884
>>157682884
I like roads.

I got EL when it was released. No DLC., quit reading about it a long time ago. What's changed?

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>be Civ6 Asyria
>dont bother with scouts or warrior in the beginning
>build war-carts right from the start
>travel the world for barbarian camps for random boosts