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>Previous threads since numbering began:
#236 - Let's Not >>156822120
#235 - Breakout 2.0 >>156622364
#234 - Parting Ways >>156478178
#233 - Horizon >>156262996
#232 - Place Your Bets II
#231 - Pay2Win
#230 - Belated Birthday
#229 - Covie Slayer
#228 - Lazy Fucks
#227 - Enter at Own Risk
#226 - Big Team Refresh
#225 - Shenanigans
#224 - Reach's 6th Birthday
#223 - Logo
#222 - A Tale of Two Companies
#221 - Old Game, New Tricks
#220 - Forge
#219 - Anvil's Legacy
#218 - Build a PC
#217 - Last Chance to Prepare
#216 - Xbox General
#215 - Variety is the Spice of Life
#214 - Vroom Vroom
#213 - The Halo Cycle
#212 - Reach
#211 - Fuck Veggies
#210 - Personal Hell
#209 - Place Your Bets
#208 - Graphs and Ratings
#207 - More DLC
#206 - 10,000 Hours in MS Paint
#205 - Energy Sword > Gravity Hammer
#204 - Gravity Hammer > Energy Sword
#203 - One General, Company, People
#202 - Achievement Unlocked
#201 - Facebook Steals Our Memes
#200 - Milestone
#199 - Free For All
#198 - Under Cover of Night
#197 - Prepare to Drop
#196 - Hexagons are Real
#195 - Spartans Never Die
#194 - Halo 4 is Technically a Halo Game
#193 - Never Trust a Hinge Head
#192 - In Remembrance of the Beta
#191 - Were It So Easy
#190 - Master Chief's Bizzare Adventure
#189 - Arby Had a Hard Life
#188 - RIP Jul
#187 - Smart A.I. was a Mistake
#186 - Our True Cause
#185 - Black Undersuit
#184 - Heretic Hunt
#183 - Master Chef
#182 - Take the Cruiser Back
#181 - What Were They Thinking
#180 - What About That Stupid Cloak
#179 - Parasite's Cove
#178 - We Numbered Now

>>157054507
/hg/ politics or real life politics?

>>157054552
This map always reminded me of Infinity from CE

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>>157054552
Once again, another surprisingly well designed Halo 4 Map that plays well with big team... ruined by the mantis

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>>157054507

I, for one, think that the Insurrectionist cause is completely and totally unjustified. Not only was it Earth which made the existence of these colonies possible, but their dedication toward a campaign of destruction targeted primarily toward innocent civilians, which has yielded the deaths of no less than 2 million on certain occasions, has revealed them as the mindless murderers that they are.

Their actions spit upon not only the homeworld from which they arose, but the human race as a whole, and no less but their complete subjugation or eradication should be the aim of the UNSC.

>>157054756

what's the prob with the mantis?

Need people to play with on PC
gt: MasterVergil

>>157057979
>Need people to play with on PC

that isn't what you really need, boy

>>157058076
>playing PC

>>157058076
what are you talking about?

>>157057052
The colonies are being exploited for their resources. Are colonists not to be granted the fruits of their labor?

>>157059319

Such issues are vital and require address from the governing powers, but it warrants neither secession nor the abomnible acts through which the Innsurectionists hope to achieve it. Had the colonists made better efforts to articulate their demands, rather than carry out action against parties toward which their grievances are not directed, than perhaps military intervention need not have occured.

>>157057964
It was OP as fuck in Halo 4.

>>157063543

plasma pistol, sticky grenades, jetpack, incin, spartan laser, another mantis

>>157063674
>it's a Orwell defends his shitty taste episode

>>157063674
>Defending anything from halo 4

>>157064651

I admit that Halo 4's vehicle balance was problematic and binary due to loadouts (the necessity of spawning with a plasma pistol, the necessity of having a pilot class for those dumb perks), but the Mantis is easily avoided or countered if you aren't trash, and Halo 4 had the best BTB maps in the series by a mile. Like half the maps in the entire game, including DLC, are BTB maps.

Reach and 5 only have Forgeshit, and Reach was actually pretty okay in terms of vehicle play (especially turret gunning on the chopper) if you didn't mind DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR and fifty thousand variants of Blood Gulch. The mode might as well not exist in 5, and 3 and prior were too laggy and limited.

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>>157065024
>3 and prior were too laggy and limited.

>>157065412

Coinflip hitreg, push-to-talk, maps mostly unsuitably small for Big Team with minimal interior space (Halo 4's BTB maps do an excellent job of balancing interior and exterior space), no real BTB Forge potential until Reach.

Also, I hate to say it, but the DMR facilitated BTB really well, and you just can't have the same scale of ranged engagements with a BR.

>>157066654
Headlong, Terminal, and Relic are ace.

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>When you need to complain about something in Halo 5, but you cant do it in Waypoint or Reddit because you'll get banned and you cant do it here because people will tell you to "git gud"

The internet was a mistake

>>157068350
git gud

>>157068350
>When you need to complain about something in Halo 5

you really don't tho

Especially since nobody will care about the game in 9 hours 19 minutes

>>157068605
Whats gonna happen in 9 hours?

>>157068350
Post it here.

>>157068669
Gears probably

>>157068669
For some reason he thinks Halo 5 is populated by Mexicans

>>157070638
What country is Halo 5 populated by?

>>157068669
Gears of four happens.

>>157071540
America, mostly.

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>>157068605
>le mexican dude bro whack-a-mole shotgun simulator

You did get a First Strike or two today, right /v/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7FaWnlhS4

>>157072261
i actually am jealous of gears because they still hold the m rating. i wish halo still did

So Chief didn't go mad because he had a slutty AI talking to him at all times?

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Of course.

>>157073020
That's because the chief is autistic.

>>157073942
Also has a bit of an Oedipus complex

>>157072993
They actually have gore, Halo doesn't have much of it

>>157073462
Which post are you even replying to

>>157076624
>>157072945

>>157068350
That depends, anon. What's your issue?

>>157077510
Probably something relating to warzone

>>157073462
>2hu

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>>157064651
>>157064906

He's not wrong, the Mantis was hardly a powerhouse and you could probably get better results from the Banshee or even the Ghost if you're good with it.

>>157081556
im begging you to let the thread die. stop bumping when its on page 9. i absolutely cannot take this anymore

>>157081556
>not wrong
He is wrong. The 4 Mantis needed another Mantis to take it down. You'd have to have like three people EMPing it to get close enough to jack, because the stomp shockwave range was insane AND an insta-kill.

>>157068350

You can complain about anything on Waypoint. People complain all the time about every Halo on Waypoint. And if you can't say it here, the probable answer might just be "git gud".

>>157081790
Could'nt one pp keep it stun locked?

>>157081790

Jetpack, you dense motherfucker.

Plasma pistol + jetpack is a one-man easy hijack. It's also the easiest target of all vehicles for ranged power weapons, of which there are shitloads in Halo 4 (especially with Ordnance on).

>>157081790

The Mantis was an easy kill. The only way you'd survive long with it is if you hung back at your team's base and didn't engage except from whatever corner you holed up in.

>You'd have to have like three people EMPing it to get close enough to jack

Only if you're absolute shit

>>157081790
>having trouble with the 4 Mantis
I mean, it was strong, but just hijack it then, nigga.

>>157081967
If you're using jetpack on a map with a mantis, any decent player would have shot you down. Hell, the Mantis has homing rockets. Even if you EMP'd, the rockets would still hit you and then he'd walk away fine.

>>157081654

Go fuck yourself, m8, if you don't like it you can leave

>>157082116

That's why Halo 4 has sprint and interior spaces all over where the Mantis can't hit you, so if you don't suck you can always get to a spot to disable and engage it from the side instead of charging straight at it on an open field.

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Why does Mantis have big dick?

Lower enemy morale?

>>157081654
>browsing threads you want to die
Autism.

>>157082343
Mantis wasn't on those maps, and if you were in a Mantis and went near a tight space, you played the game wrong. So your best argument is that you played against people even worse than you are.

I think with halo 6 they need to bring their fucking a game.

>>157082626

Mantis is on pretty much all the BTB maps and pretty much all the BTB maps have central and peripheral interior spaces where the Mantis can't get you to traverse the map. The only exception that springs to mind is Ragnarok (Valhalla), where you can (again) two-shot it with any of the copious sniper power weapons Halo 4 has.

>>157082413
Because Spartan Locke is a big dick nigga, he gets dyke pussy wet.

>>157083339
>big dick
>not gorilla dick

one job

>>157083027
>pretty much all
>less than even half of the BTB launch maps
>only 3 maps, not counting the DLC nobody was around for
>one of them is valhalla, where the sightlines are fucked for any snipers and need to get within range of non-committal rockets from the mantis
>one was Exile, where any smart player just avoids the center and then always has their team at their back
>the third was Meltdown, where sight lines once again fuck any sniper, and as long as you don't stand near the teleporter exit, you are invincible since there will be only two directions the enemy can come from

>>157083536
>only 3 maps, not counting the DLC nobody was around for

Nah senpai, the DLC was lit and peeps actually bought it (unlike Reach) in part because they did a Season Pass, and also 6 out of 9 DLC maps were BTB.

5 BTB maps at launch is sure the heck better than Reach's 2.

>>157083389
Forgive me.

whats this update?

>>157083953
The game had less than 100,000 total players per day by the time the very first DLC came out, and only one of those had a Mantis. The next map pack had less than 30,000 people.

>>157084130
>The next map pack had less than 30,000 people.

For perspective, that's more than any FPS on Steam that isn't made by Valve.

>>157084604
Not "at any given time." That number is PER DAY. Steam measures all active players at a given time and the peak of the day of that number. Halo 4 was under any of those numbers when adding its total daily numbers together.

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>tfw Destiny still sucks

>>157084848
Are you the faggot who is shitting up the /dg/ thread?

>>157084780

Somehow I still played it for 500 hours throughout the life of it and never had particularly egregious queue times nor was there ever a dead playlist, and it was the only Halo alive during 2012-2013.

>>157085186
That's good for you, but you played a dead game where almost nobody ever even saw the DLC maps.

>>157084780

>Halo 4 was under any of those numbers when adding its total daily numbers together.

I think only Halo 3 measured players according to 24 hours. Reach and onward only provided measures for who was online at a single time. The infamous Halo 4 population graph only measured how many people were online at its most populous point each day.

>>157084951
As if that shithole needs any help with being shit

>>157085457

I played the DLC maps all the time, man. 343 weighted them pretty heavily in the playlists. I remember being ecstatic when the first map pass was accidentally released for free and then they damage controlled it into a trial.

The only map nobody got to play much was Vertigo, next to Pitfall in that final DLC that wasn't part of the pass.

>>157085672
And now you're just purposefully going off-topic.

>>157085814

I responded directly and completely to your post. There's nothing remotely "off-topic" in my post. Don't be a damaged fanboy.

Halo 4 was the only Halo to play during 2012-2013.

>>157086291
There wasn't a Halo game released in 2012, only a piece of shit with the word "Halo" on the front of the case it came in.

>>157086291
>nobody was around for Mantis maps aside from three
>B-BUT I WAS, THEREFORE EVERYONE DID
>nobody played those maps
>I-I did! FANBOY!

>>157086291
I played Reach then.

>>157086834
>nobody played those maps
>I-I did! FANBOY!

I did, everyone I matchmade with did, all of my Halo friends did, everyone in the populated DLC-only playlists did, and so could you have if you weren't so busy being a shitposting crybaby and not playing Halo.

>>157087107
That's good for you that you played a bad game. But you are one of few who played it, and that is all that needed to be said to win that argument.
The mantis launched on three maps, and your only strategy to beat it does not work on those maps. Anything after those is irrelevant because they were situations that nobody but you and less than a percent of the other people who bought the game even touched.

>>157086714
>only a piece of shit with the word "Halo" on the front of the case it came in.

which nearly the entire world found more worthwhile then than Halo 3 and Halo: Reach

>>157087580

You have no argument because you are too trash to deal with the Mantis, nevermind being able to fucking SPAWN WITH TWO WEAPONS AND AN ARMOR ABILITY THAT HARD-COUNTER IT.

You are garbage at Halo; end of discussion. And Halo 4 is fundamentally the LEAST difficult Halo game to counter anything in, so you're even further irredeemable.

>>157087886
>too trash
Fun fact: I was always speaking from my point of view of driving the mantis. You can't get close to it.

>>157086714

Lel, is the Bungie Bitch assmad?

Just ignore it you fucking mongoloids

>>157088050
Just bring up Reach and watch him sputter.

>>157088289

>Armor Lock wasn't a problem!
>Or Jetpack!
>Or bloom!
>Or Loadouts!
>Or Campaign-ripped maps!
>Or Forge maps!
>Or scary Elites!

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>>157088596
>tfw I complain about Reach people call me a 343 shill

>>157088702

If you do anything, you're called a 343 shill

>I think Halo 4/5 isn't absolutely and completely crap
>I think [insert Bungie Halo here] isn't as great as some people think

It's a meaningless buzzword and the only people who use it don't really deserve to have their little opinions acknowledged.

>>157088890
>I think Halo 4/5 isn't absolutely and completely crap
But they are. 4 is just everything Reach did wrong with even more issues added on, and 5 is a shallow mess of no content.

>>157089212
5 has plenty of content now, the only thing people complain about is "muh oddball" which is already possible in the setting

>>157089212

There's one now!

>>157089274
>5 has plenty of content now
It lacks big team maps, medium sized maps, still like half of the game modes from 3, a campaign, etc.

>>157089376
>wanting anything from the weakest of the original trilogy
I just want Race back for CE's sake

>>157089718
>it's 3, therefore territories, koth, vip, juggernaut, oddball, one-sided gametypes, etc. are bad

>breakout is neutral CTF now
Well, I guess this is fine.

>>157090027
It's really not. Go play a couple matches. Hauling it back to your base is way safer and easier than actually getting a touchdown and drive out campers, which was the point.

I think Halo is the only game I'm a perfect little good goy to MS for. It keeps hurting me yet I'll gladly but the 100 dollar edition of Halo 6 and H3A So i can play 4 days early.

I havent spent a dime on req packs though.

>>157085186
Untrue, reach population rose above halo 4's during those years

>>157090615
>tfw went back to Reach after about two months because my friends didn't want 4
Still love that customization.

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>>157089274
No asymmetric maps or game modes except wza.

>>157090257
>I'll gladly but the 100 dollar edition of Halo 6 and H3A So i can play 4 days early
I can't believe people do this.

>>157090615

Reach never passed the population of 4. The overall player count is bugged and you have to add up each individual playlist to come to a number that has always been dramatically lower than 4 since 4 came out.

>>157091497
It comes with other shit aa well, thats not the only reason of course.

And for a game like Halo that lasts me 500+ hrs each installment, I dont feel guilty buying the top tier.

>>157091516

The player count in Reach has been bugged for some time but it wasn't then. Reach quickly surpasses Halo 4s population a couple of months after launch. I thought this was common knowledge?

>>157091847
What else does it come with?

>>157092021

Any proof for that?

>>157091516
That's not true at all. Reach rose back above 4's player count just a few months after 4 launched

>>157092249

Any proof for the alternate claim? Halo 4 having a tiny population isn't just a meme fella. Halos population was small as fuck post Halo 4, but Reach had a higher population and I'm not going to get involved into one of the >proof bait arguments

>>157092451

That's not how it works, m8.

I'm genuinely curious because this is the first I've heard of it. But without proof and judging by your reaction, it sounds more like bullshit.

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>>157090257
>tfw bought the Halo 4 console and the LE
>500 bucks down the drain

>>157092205
I'm not sure yet anon. Halo 6 is about two years away. Probably some sort of map pass or dlc pass or whatever.

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>>157092774
>micro-transactions and season pass

>>157092741

You obviously haven't been playing Halo very long if you didn't know Reach took over 4s population fairly quickly. Halo 4s population abandoned the game ridiculously fast. Halo 5 only held on somewhat because of the monthly updates and even then 343 are being very dubious with their numbers. If they're as good as they say they are, they would have release them.

>>157092451
Reach had about 10,000 players on at any given time just last September, I find it hard to believe that Halo 4 would've has any higher

>>157093096

That's all fun and good, but you've still got no numbers. It shouldn't be so hard to find some definitive proof. We have Google now.

>>157093096
>Halo 5 only held on somewhat because of

lol dude

pathetic scaremongering

does Reach have more population than 5 also?

>>157093246
Anyone that isn't retarded can fathom that Reach had more players on than 4 during 4's lifetime aside from launch. It was the same with Reach and 3; people didn't buy the newer one because they were still playing the older one. And with 4, the people who bought the newer one dropped it in less than a month for BO2 or to go back to Reach where sprint was able to be turned off and custom games already existed.

>>157092859
Bro you're giving me a hard time like I know whats gonna be included.

Maybe it'll be something similar to that thing they did with H5 where you got like 5 premium packs a month and the packs were guaranteed to have good shit? Who knows.

Id like to see a return to paid map packs over microtransactions

>>157093246
>Reach had about 10,000 players on at any given time

you obviously looked at the bugged overall pop and did not actually add up the individual playlists

>>157093543
Don't be naive man.
Why dont we have population counters? Why do you frequently keep matching the same damn people in playlists? Hell, why do i even have a problem finding a game at all in some playlists?

"GUYS H5 HAS MOST PLAYERS SINCE H3!"
"cool bravo, how many?"
"WEEEEELLLL GOTTA GO NOW BYE"

>>157093807
This shit pissed me off so much

>>157093096

Alright, I'll help you out a bit

https://majornelson.com/2013/07/24/live-activity-for-week-of-july-15/

Here's the activity chart for 9 months after Halo 4's release. While Halo 4 has closed the gap between it and Reach, Reach still hadn't caught up. Therefore, within quite a bit longer than a "couple months" after launch, Halo 4 still had more players than Reach.

>>157093807

There are more people playing Halo 5 now than any other Halo game.

That is all that actually matters.

>>157093693
I never went out of my way to add them up no, but a few thousand in slayer and BTB each combined with sparse pockets of 300 ish in the other modes would've seemed to add up

I don't know where you're pulling this "reach population counter bug" thing from, but I've never heard of a bug that somehow has the wrong amount of players yet still fluctuates on it's own

>>157094040
>343 killed Halo with a rusty shovel
>but 5 still has 10,000 players, so that's all that matters
I remember back when Halo had several hundred thousand players per day a decade ago.

>>157094070
>I never went out of my way to add them up no

if you ever had, you would come up with a total less than half of whatever the overall is, because the overall accounts for people playing campaign, firefight, idling in menus, and not actually existing

>>157094274
>I remember back when Halo had several hundred thousand players per day a decade ago.

yes, the defining memory of my childhood also was seeing a six-digit number on a screen

>>157094040
I should hope so, Halo 3 is nine years old.

>>157094356
You ever gonna provide proof of this major claim:

>>157093939

https://majornelson.com/2013/11/07/live-activity-for-week-of-oct-28/

Now interestingly, HALO 3 overtook Halo 4 in October 2013. I'm wondering how this happened, since it had fallen below the Top 20 Most Played before the previous check in July. Was there an event? I forget when Games With Gold started, but I think this might be a bit early...

Though more to the point, by this time, a year after Halo 4's release, Halo Reach had dropped completely off the activity list. It had never overtaken Halo 4 at any point.

>>157094356
>playing campaign, firefight and idling in menus

Yes, how do those not count as population? They're in the game. FF and campaign also had matchmaking.

>>157094589
It's not really a major claim, of course older games won't have dick for population outside of mexican holdovers

You faggots arent ignoring it

>>157094040
No, I disagree.
No shit H5 has more people playing than reach and 4, but will we ever see the MASSIVE amounts of people playing Halo ever again?

Probably not. I think Halo is forever doomed to 35k and below numbers forever.

>>157094823
>ignore things that conflict with your views!
Fucking child.

>>157094778
>It's not really a major claim
He's claiming that the solid number counter apparently lies. Considering the argument is ABOUT the number counter, yes, that's a major claim. His entire argument hinges on proving this right.

>>157094901
>halo 5
>35K

LMAO

it's probably more like 10-15k at absolute best

>>157094614
>Now interestingly, HALO 3 overtook Halo 4 in October 2013.

This was the exact month it became free and it dropped off below Halo 4 the month after. This number only accounts for unique users who downloaded the game (because it was made FUCKING FREE) and ran it once during that month. It has no correlation whatsoever to actual matchmaking population or anything we care about, and they could not have even played multiplayer because most of the playlists require all DLC.

Stop fucking posting.

>>157095006

M8, I'm one of the skeptics, read the damn posts.

Tripfag cunts.

>>157095006
>Stop fucking posting

Sorry about that; I got so triggered by that Halo 3 mention I didn't read the rest of your post. Carry on.

>>157094548
More people playing is good for everybody.
More people playing = more profitability = more investment in Halo, more community content, I could go on.

I know you're trolling by the way, But you're still a fag.

>>157094901
Of course it is. Everyone moved to Call of Duty after Halo 3, Halo hasn't been the king for a long time.

>>157094994
Orwell is known to shit up threads just because he can.

Every other threads knows not to take his bait, except this fucking hellhole

>>157094996

Anyone could launch Halo: Reach right now and see that the playlist pop total is dramatically less than the overall count.

I would be willing to bet $20 Paypal on it, and I'd go indefinitely higher if I had any faith in your finances.

>>157095206
Nobody here except a few even knew what Orwell was before he came back. I find it funny that, just a few threads ago, people were welcoming him with open arms and saying that he should stay because he's not as bad as Pizza.
But anybody who qualifies for an oldfag membership breakfast card knows that he's just as bad and should never be responded to.

>>157095336

I remember many of the old names; none of them are here. No Charlie, no Majora, no Lowerdose, no Astral Mango.

>>157095332
Orwell is right, I just checked and the overall pop is supposed to be 8,080 but it only added up to 4,006

>>157095206
>he doesn't triple reverse troll
>he doesn't intentionally take bait

>>157096218
Turn your trip back on orwell.

>>157095119

Apologies again for flipping out at you. Anyway, let's extrapolate your findings.

https://majornelson.com/2012/12/13/live-activity-for-week-of-dec-3/

https://majornelson.com/2013/02/06/live-activity-for-week-of-january-28th/

https://majornelson.com/2013/03/14/live-activity-for-week-of-march-4th/

https://majornelson.com/2013/04/06/live-activity-for-week-of-april-1st/

https://majornelson.com/2013/06/26/live-activity-for-week-of-june-17/

https://majornelson.com/2013/07/24/live-activity-for-week-of-july-15/

https://majornelson.com/2013/10/02/live-activity-for-week-of-sept-30/

https://majornelson.com/2013/11/07/live-activity-for-week-of-oct-28/

https://majornelson.com/2013/12/05/live-activity-for-week-of-november-25/

As you've found, Reach was never even close to Halo 4's user count.

Reachfags have wasted everyone's patience yet again.

>>157096731
I'm not orwell i'm just a guy who likes reach quite a bit and got interested in this whole population glitch that I never heard of

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>343 will never fix the gamebreaking aiming bugs in MCC CE

>>157096893
>aiming bugs
Elaborate

>>157096763
>Reachfags

Post discarded, grow up.

>>157096763

Also worth noting that for the entire first year of Halo 4's life, it was the top FPS on the console outside of CoD.

We can extend this to say it was the top FPS in all of videogaming that year outside of CoD and Valve.

I'd like to invite everyone who wasted half of this thread being factually wrong on all counts to get the fuck out.

>>157097037
halobugs.com scroll down to Curving Bullets.

>>157096763
Did the entire /hg/ just get BTFO by Orwell?

>>157097306
>all of /hg/ is reach fanboy

>>157097306
>this post happens every time Orwell argues
Fuck off, Orwell

>>157097378
>>157097427
You guys are just mad because you lost

>>157097150
>implying Reachfags aren't the worst fucking -fags
Even 3 babbies are more bearable.

>>157097525
>you lost
Who is "you" because only one guy ever even brought up Reach overtaking 4 which was quickly dropped, and Orwell latched on to it because he couldn't win any other point argued tonight.

>>157097708
I'm just a fan of the series. Labeling someone Reachfag or 3Babby or whatever depending on whichever one they happen to be speaking about is retarded.

Did you know this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GObSwteATrU#t=37

>>157097920
Yes?

I also knew about the MC helmet easter egg in Destiny. Ask me anything

>>157097973
>MC helmet in Destiny
I actually didn't know about this, so tell me about it

>>157099489
In the Valus Taurc mission, there is a part where you have to kill 3 Cabal captains or 4 Taken things. In the middle of this area is a cabal tower. Walk to the giant rock pilar behind it, turn around and look at the tower. The shape, color and perspective make the tower look like Chiefs helmet

So it's been about 3 days since I bought a bone and halo 5, I guess it's fine I was expecting much worse.
System is on par with ps4 in terms of my experience with it an halo 5 is okay, like a 6.5 or 7/10

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>>157099489
I think he is talking about this

>>157100091
Ehhhh not really

Could be a coincidence

>>157100484
Nothing is coincidence

Its all a part of Gods great pla

>>157100646
Anon?
ANOOOON!!!

>>157100484
Considering it's made by Bungie, it can't be a coincidence.

>no mashup game with Chief waking up in destiny verse and kicking bad guy butt

Post it

>>157102283
You can't make me.

>>157101751
It vaguely looks like chiefs helmet, probably wasn't intentional

>>157102265
>Activision somehow miraculously buys Halo
>the E3 after, all that is shown of Destiny is a cinematic trailer of Chief climbing out

>>157104668
God not, that'd be fucking horrible.

>>157105109
And it'd still be a higher point than 4, MCC, or 5.
Makes you think.

>>157054615
That was their expressed intent with the design, actually.

>>157105368
>feeling the need to blindly hate 343 to the point where Bungie can do no wrong
>even when Destiny had even less content than Halo 5 at launch
>even when Destiny, two years after launch, still has less content than Halo 5, released a year ago
Bungie is dead, and is now objectively worse than 343 ever could be.

>>157088596
>>Or bloom!
Reach's only problem

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>>157105593
He's going all out

>>157105593
Look how fucking mad this guy is getting

>>157105593
I still feel like Bungie cares about their games.

343I seems to just make games because they are told to do so. 4 and 5 were kinda soulless you know?

>>157105593
>blindly hate
I just gave you three examples that are well below par, even for third party copycat shooters. That's the opposite of blind.
>even when Destiny, two years after launch, still has less content than Halo 5, released a year ago
Now you're just making shit up. Destiny has more pvp maps than Halo 5 does, not counting all the forge trash.

>>157105708

>AAs
>Loadouts
>Bleedthrough
>Shit weapon balance
>Shit maps
>Retcons
>Paper vehicles

Reach was BELOW AVERAGE

>>157105593
Not sure what you're arguing about.
Destiny is pretty bad.
So is Halo 5.

Enjoy measuring your shitstacks.

>>157105852
Agreed. Looks pretty good compared to 343 Halo though.

>>157105852
Everything you listed is also a problem in 5. Many of them worse.
Make no mistake, I'm with you on Reach. It's a disappointment and way overrated.

But to assume 5 is any better... Yeah, no.

>>157105878

The point he was arguing against was that one shitstack was less shit than the other, though.

>>157105852
Those first three can be fixed in custom games, and shit maps is just your bad opinion.
I prefer playing it to 1 and 2's multiplayer, though. Those two were very limited in custom games. Shame Reach Forge didn't have a palette option for forge world's blue and grey blocks.

>tfw went into Reach Doubles and there were only 3 players in the game mode--including myself
I felt a great sadness in my heart.

>>157105852
>>Retcons
W E A K
E
A
K

>>157105737
I play Destiny regularly, and it's easily as disappointing as 5. Basically this >>157105878 is true.
>>157106014
tbqh, I prefer Halo 5's multiplayer. Destiny's lore is cool, but nearly all of it isn't in the game and is in a non-canon web supplement.

>>157105795
>Bungie cares about their games
You know all the old guard employees left, right? Destiny costs around 180$ for all the content cut at launch, and you're going to sit there and say they care? At least 343 has the Forge Team that actually cares enough to take feedback and give us some decent stuff.

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>>157105593
>>even when Destiny had even less content than Halo 5 at launch

>>157105852
>shit maps
>paper vehicles
>loadouts (WZ)

sounds like halo 5

>>157106116
>Destiny costs around 180$ for all the content cut at launch
It's costs $60. You can go check right now. And even if you count everything as separate and at full price, it's like $140.

>>157106116
Jason Jones is still there

He's basically the founder of the company though. Poor guy probably can't bring himself to leave it.

>>157106119
>no customs
>butchered story as bad as Halo 5
>only a couple Strikes and no raids
>broken as fuck multiplayer with zero balancing
>only a few actual areas
>missions are short and shitty
>three or so planets with maybe 5 missions each
I bought the fucking Ghost Edition for that garbage

>>157106205

It might, but Halo 5 has good gameplay

>>157106319
It had capes tho.

>>157106319
So Halo 5? You even got it down to the "three or so planets" bit.

>>157106294
>it's only 140 so it's okay!
Bungie apologist get out

>>157106294
(Not counting any sales because i dont know the pricing of those) People who bought it AT LAUNCH would have had to pay 120$ at the very least for all of it's content.

That's 60$ for the base game, and then 60$ more for the collection which includes all the DLC and the base game again.


If they didn't wait two years to do that, it wouldve costed them 60$ for the base game, then 105$ of DLC. For a grand total of 165$.

>>157106447

Halo 5 had at least 4 planets

>>157106316
>Jason Jones
Is by all accounts the reason Detiny was so shit.
He threw out nearly the entirety of the script project just a year before it was supposed to launch.
The Taken King was supposed to be in the base game. He ensured it became DLC.

>>157106294
I bought Destiny, that's 60, then I bought the first expansion for 20, then the second for 20, 40 (technically 60, I bought the Xbone version with Taken king to get off 360), and now Rise of Iron for 30. That's 170 dollars. 170 fucking dollars for cut content.

>>157106116
Destiny still has a heart behind those obvious bullshit Activision business choices

343I's Halo games just feel like semi-functioning games with the Halo logo printed on them

But thats just me

>>157106643
>destiny still has heart
>they ripped the story to shreds
>all the drama surrounding the old-guard employees who either left or got canned because they couldn't do anything to make the game what they wanted
Activision killed Bungie's good name, admit it.

If I have the base game how much would it cost right now to get full Destiny? Is it worth it?

>>157106540
>Meridian
>Genesis
>Kamchata
>Argent Moon?

>>157106605
>paid for two immediately-post-launch expansions instead of buying the season pass
That's your own fault.

>>157106786
$60+ if you buy the dlc
Buying the new disc is , I might do it because I just got an xbone and my brother in law plays it like mad.

>>157106643
>i- it's Bungie, guys!
>t- the game still has heart, even though they destroyed everything it was supposed to be to ship out a mutilated product!
They even added microtransactions. A YEAR AND A HALF AFTER LAUNCH.

Master Chief vs Chunin exam Naruto (no nine-tails ass pull)

>>157106643
>>157106767
>blaming Activision
Dude, I dislike Activision as much as the next guy, but Bungie negotiated it so that they had complete control of the design process.

The fuck-ups are their own.

Now, they've fucked up hard, and had to renegotiate their contract losing much of that control. Activision has mandated other studios to "help" with Destiny 2 as a result.

And first and foremost THEY chose Activision. Bungie fucked themselves.

>>157106842
>it's your fault you paid for it!
>you can't complain!
I paid more than you did, fucker. If anybody has a right to complain, it's me.

>>157106893
>the microtransactions are for gestures and sparrow horns
>all armor gotten from it has no stats
At least nobody won a game by buying a random-item gift bag in Destiny.

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>>157106547
Oh, I'm aware that the taken king area was supposed to be in at launch. So was some swampy and another snowy area on earth along with ancient ruins on mars.

Pic related is concept art released 2 years before the game did.

The ones that weren't taken King got scrapped and had their assets used for MP maps, it's why there's 5 or so maps that completely stand out from the rest visually.

>>157106993
>was a complete retard with his money
>knew the two expansions were coming even before launch
>still paid double the price
Morons don't get to complain. Especially in the day and age of Microsoft paying you to use Bing. Some people got the entire digital game for free.

>>157106996
>I can earn my REQ points by playing
>I can't earn those stupid emotes and other shit
Fuck off. Johnny the Rich Kid hasn't won anybody a game by wasting his REQ energy on his shiny ONI tank.

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>>157106643

Halo 5 feels like a game they put several years worth of legitimate work into before someone a couple months before launch said "Mediocre!" and scrapped half of it.

The trailers and promotion makes me think Brian Reed got some college intern or something to write the story while he was off doing blow out of Filipino boys' asses, only to show up right before launch, read the script, and decide it was far too original and scary for his coked-out mind to use.

>>157106842

How could you forget Sanghelios, you mad bitch. It's like some of the only missions that matter.

>>157107091
>Pic related is concept art released 2 years before the game did.
There's actual renders of The Dreadnaught, more than just concept art.

I'll see if I have it saved.

>>157107095
>s- stop complaining!
>y- you're just a dumb-dumb who spent his money poorly!
>it's only 140 otherwise, that's totally a lot less than 170!
Kill your fucking self, Bungie shill.

>>157107095
>Especially in the day and age of Microsoft paying you to use Bing.
Does anyone else do this?
I do.

>>157107112
>I can't earn those stupid emotes and other shit
But you do. The bags that they drop from you can get by doing certain weekly playlists across multiple characters.

>>157107112
>Johnny the Rich Kid hasn't won anybody a game by wasting his REQ energy on his shiny ONI tank.
Source?
>inb4 baseless assumption that people who pay are all bronze scrubs

>>157107215
>someone thinks it's a good business decision to pay double the price of DLC when they won't stop waving the 50% off deal in front of them
This applies to any game. You knew before launch that there were two DLCs, and you bought the game probably planning to get them, too. Why would you buy separately?

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>>157107161
Yes, they talked about you being able to explore an "abandoned ship" on launch day. And the ruins of Chicago. And the Mumbai Push.

As well as finding out what these are.

But then the game got cucked.

>>157107281

>Johnny the Rich Kid has won a game by wasting his REQ energy on his shiny ONI tank.
Source?

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>>157107359
What these are**

I guess I tried to attach 2 images like a fucking retard

>>157107281
Well, I can use an example from me.
>spawn ONI tank
>blue guy camping vehicle spawn outside of Garage
>hops on tank
>blows me up
>can't spawn another tank for like 5 minutes

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>>157106643
Destiny's story is still Halo 5-tier. Have you even seen the cut content? Bungie even fired Marty O'Donnell.
>Destiny still has a heart
My ass.

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>>157107359
rip joe

>>157107654
Will he save Halo?

>>157107508
Those are Vex ships. They probably got mellowed out because the Vex can fucking teleport, so why would they need ships except to establish bases on planets?

>>157107541
In game story is Halo 5 tier yes

Yes

They fired him because he was a stubborn asshole who was just spinning around on his chair most of the time

>>157107715
He does some grunt voices in halo 5 and wrote the Shadow Of Intent novel at least but I think he doesn't want anything to do with the new game stories


>>157107737
They said we would find out what those are when the game releases in their "building a brave new world" presentation.

This was a few years before launch, right before the game got fucked over for whatever reason and they cut a ton of shit. They're probably vex ships yeah, but it's just more evidence of what happened to the game, if any more was even needed.


>>157107541
yeah, I think old bungie is gone for good unfortunately. Although to be honest that began to happen around Halo Reach. They started to become more corporate.

>>157106885
$60 for all the DLC? Will I be hopelessly behind?
I remember being 29 light I think but online it says 123?

>>157107809
>In game story
Gtimoire is non-canon
>Felwinter is an Exo
>is a fleshie in the Iron Tomb
Can't wait for Destiny 2 to roll around and everyone to get so assmad that they "retconned" stuff.

>They fired him because he was a stubborn asshole who was just spinning around on his chair most of the time
Incorrect. They fired him because he had done most of the work he needed to do already, and they thought they could make money off him since they already had his scores.
He recognized this and made complaints to fellow management. The court literally gave him everything he asked for cause he was in the right. Dude is still on Bungie's board even.

>>157108064
>$60 for all the DLC? Will I be hopelessly behind?
No, there's barely any content ;^). The game as it is now, is probably worth 60, but if you can get it for 40, you'd be doing better.

>>157107997
>but it's just more evidence of what happened to the game, if any more was even needed.
Oh, definitely. But I'm willing to bet that this particular case was probably just regular cut content, not maliciously held stuff.
The only place it could be would be at the top of the Vex tower on Venus, and it would have just been a few corridors leading to big rooms like the copypasted Ketch is.

>>157108064
They changed how light levels worked about a year ago if I remember correctly. I believe the highest is 400 now.

>>157108198
>Grimoire isnt canon

When will this meme end.
Its literally the only canon shit there is for Dedstiny

>>157108256
>I believe the highest is 400

i think 387 at the moment, It should be possible to get to 400, but it's kinda odd.
Packages don't drop above 385, but gunsmith rewards and postgame rewards get above that.

>>157108064
>$60 for all the DLC? Will I be hopelessly behind?
No, you can quickly catch up, but if you do use the level booster, you'll probably never touch the earlier levels, get some unique gear, and won't unlock some achievements.
Play the main game once through with one character, then pass the excess gear to the other two to be fused.

>>157108234
Oh, I definitely agree. Some of the original content was definitely cut to be used as DLC or recycled in smaller ways to be used in raids and MP maps, but a lot was probably just plain old dropped entirely or never made it too far past the concept stage to begin with.

Destiny isn't an outright terrible game, it's just very money-grubbing and repetitive. I can see why people would like it, but it's not for me. And I'll always be dissapointed about the potential it had and what happened to bungie.

I leave for like two seconds and I come back and you faggots are talking about Destiny. Unbelievable

This general deserves to die

55 minutes folks

>>157108339
>When will this meme end.
It isn't a meme.

>Its literally the only canon shit there is for Dedstiny
It is hysterical how tenderly you cling to the Grimoire. In-game, there is all the relevant lore you need to know.

>>157108354
>you'll probably never touch the earlier levels,
This is absurd. >>157108064 The story missions still give the rewards. Use the booster and then level your subclass, you won't be able to get to a high enough light without doing the story missions anyways.
>>157108508
>This general deserves to die
So helo bring about its demise by never returning O' great seeker of (You)s

>>157108497
I think the state it's in now is solid enough for it to die on. If the base game launched with the two expansions and TTK, that would have been worth the $60, so anyone jumping in now would get a decent deal.
Just don't take PvP seriously.

>>157106643
>those obvious bullshit Activision business choices

Shut the fuck up. You slap down $100 on Infinite Warfare and you get TWO complete CoD games OFF THE BAT, no bullshit, no surprise unplanned expansions that aren't covered by the season pass, no Complete edition a year later you could've saved a ton of money on.

Bungie's bullshit is unprecedented and incompetent and it's obvious even they weren't clear on how much DLC they planned to release and were just winging it, badly, and behind schedule.

I mean, a month from now I'm getting two campaigns and something like 30 multiplayer maps plus change. The value prospect ridiculous even if IW turns out mediocre; it'll still at least be less aggressively boring and abusive than Destiny ever was.

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w-what happened to games costing $60?

>>157109086

Games cost $100 now because games are big and expensive to make.

>>157108584
There is no lore in the main game, thats why the grimoire exits. The grimoire is literally the butchered version of the original story.


>>157108906
You ever thought about that deal existing only because CoDs fanbase has been demanding a boots on the ground game for a while now and Activision decided to take the easiest route to please these demands?

Hell, IW isnt even developing the Remaster, they gave that job to another studio. And you still need to buy the 100 dollar edition to get the remaster

>>157108508
Neck yourself, I bet you like Shitstiny.

>>157109086

What happened to games being worth the money paid?

So many games I get these days, they're only good for a few hours single player, even the ones specifically concentrated on it. I went 100% on Ass Creed IV and it only took a little bit.

>>157109154
I can see hollywood blockbuster for ten bucks.

>>157109313
I can at least have fun with Ass Creed IV with the boats, Unity was just abysmal.

OH BOY, I WONDER IF THERES A THREAD DEDICATED TO DESTINY

>>157109176

They have no faith in Infinity Ward after Ghosts, because nobody understood how dank and limitless that game is. You could do anything in that game.

I'm getting the $100 on principle just like I got BO3, but I also am deeply unenthused by Infinite Warfare, but it's an undeniable value prospect since it's the same amount of content I got with BO3 but now with the whole of CoD4's campaign and all 16 maps remastered. Essentially free when compared to other $100 Digital Deluxe editions.

>Hell, IW isnt even developing the Remaster, they gave that job to another studio.

This is a very good thing and Raven actually did a fantastic and faithful job of it.

Only thing I really liked about Destiny was the sweet aesthetics. Wish 343 Halo had those.

>>157109464
Fuck off, Bungie made that shitstain of a game so it's relevant here.

>>157109176
>There is no lore in the main game
Incorrect.
Eris talks about Toland and shit.
Saladman tells the abridged tale of the Iron Lords
Ghost tells you stuff about the Warmind Rasputin, there are audio logs hidden in his bunkers, etc.
Grimoire exists because Bungie needed to keep their entire writing staff from quitting and it is their Soma.
Ultimately, it will amount to nothing. I expect a great quantity of your tears when your favorite piece of lore gets retconned.

You probably still believe characters will carry over, don't you?

>>157109154
>Games cost $100 now because games are big
>Destiny
>big

No they cost that much because idiots will subsidize it for people like me who wait and get the deluxe GOTY edition.

That said, I may get IW just because COD 4 is actually just that phenomenal of a game.

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>>157109539
>I'm getting the $100 on principle
GOOD GOY

I want to drag my balls across palmers face

>>157109459

Oh yeah, Unity was shit but Black Flag was pretty great.

Hopefully the new Egypt game will be good. A game set there has such huge potential, I'd be almost devastated if they fucked it up.

But it looks promising... I think...

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>>157109742
Anon.
Anon please.
Anon please stop.

>>157109648
>idiots will subsidize it for people like me who wait and get the deluxe GOTY edition.
>I may get IW just because COD 4 is actually just that phenomenal of a game.
kek just wait for the standalone release

>>157109648
There is only 1 guy writing the grimoire.

I dont care about the characters getting carried over from D1 to D2

>>157109539
>dj orwell

>>157109742
I want to drag my balls across your face
Post GT you fag

I only wear mark 4 or 5 armor

>>157109573
OH, IM SORRY, I DIDNT KNOW THIS WAS /bg/ - BUNGIE GENERAL

>>157109971
How about my psn?

>>157109971
Smiggler22

I'll take you up on that offer

>>157106319
>no raids in destiny vanillla
stop posting

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>>157109831

>>157110216
Not at launch it wasn't, faggot.

>>157109971
Sguggmug62

>>157110384
Because nobody could do it on launch, faggot

>>157109897

The only CoD that has ever gotten a Complete / proper GOTY release is 4, because it only had one DLC.

>>157110676
Good thing we're talking about CoD 4 lol.

>>157110628
Destiny launched September 9th, raid wasn't available for a week. So no, it wasn't in at launch.

>>157110794

The original version of CoD4, on 360. Logic doesn't apply here.

Whether MWR gets released standalone depends on sales, I'd guess.

>>157109897
>>I may get IW just because COD 4 is actually just that phenomenal of a game.
Did you fail to read this part of my post.
I am actually completely content in paying $100 for a remaster of game I already own because it's that good of a game, to me.
>>157109901
>There is only 1 guy writing the grimoire.
There have been at least 2 at various points.

>>157111034
>I am actually completely content in paying $100 for a remaster of game I already own because it's that good of a game, to me.
But you said people who pay $100 are idiots? Anybody who likes games you don't is idiot?

If you think of MWR as a $60 game, which is fair because it's an absolute masterpiece that still holds up, then that makes Infinite Warfare $40 complete, which is $60 cheaper than any other complete CoD since BO1.

IW seems totally fine as a budget FPS, lol.

>>157110813
Nobody still could do it on launch day

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Does campaign progress for legendary count if a level was only done in co-op on legendary?

>>157111285
"Vault of Glass is a raid located in Ishtar Sink, Venus. It first became available on September 16, 2014."
Yeah, nah.

>>157111117
>But you said people who pay $100 are idiots?
Slightly different scenario. This is $100 for two games.
>>157111182
Basically this.

>>157111182
>If you think of MWR as a $60 game, which is fair
"no"

>>157111290
Depends, certain cheevos are "solo only", otherwise, yes.

Won't Cod 4 remake just cannibalize IW multiplayer playerbase?

>>157111378

I never paid for it before, so.

>>157111503
They'll probably use a system similar to CE: Anni

>>157111341
Nobody had good enough gear on launch day to even try and complete the raid so it made sense to release it later when people had good enough gear

>>157111285
it doesn't matter you retard, the raid wasn't meant to be done day 1 allowing players to have a fair chance to level their characters

>>157111503

It'll still be healthy because IW will have more dumb shit to grind for, and CoD's population on PS4 is the highest of any console game period, so.

>>157111570
Yeah just like the raids are too hard to have matchmaking because doing it with randoms would be impossible... Oh wait everyone just uses group finder sites to do them with randoms anyways

TEN MINUTES

AAAAAAAAAAA

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>tfw i sold my Xboner and bought a PS4 just because of Call of Duty 4 Remastered

>>157111817
>buying the Piss Poor
You played yourself.

>>157111521
So you stole the game?

>>157111570
>they HAD to delay it!
>people couldn't possibly no-life the game and be ready the next day!

>>157111880
Keep telling yourself that while playing a 343I's Halo game.

Meanwhile ill be enjoying the greatest console fps game ever made. Remastered

>>157111817

Send me a friendie. PSN is Ubermenschkind.

>>157111817
Isn't it on xbox one?

>>157112047
>>157112198
It is.

Anon is an idiot

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>>157112047
No need to tell me anon, I love Halo 2.

>>157112198
Playstation 4 is the new home of Call of Duty

>>157112286
That's a funny way to say PC

>>157112272
>Playing MCC unironically

>>157112387
>PC
>Ever being relevant

>>157112519
It is strange to me how massive the PC community is, but preference is usually given wholly to consoles.
Not that I mind.

>>157112598
>~5k people
>""""""""""""""""""massive""""""""""""""

>>157112286
The average playstation fps player is worse than xbox fps player. I don't why this is, but it holds true for basically every fps.

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>>157112387

You are one stupid motherfucker, and I have an i7-6700k and a GTX 1070.

Nobody plays CoD on PC.

>>157112692
>>>/vg/gowg

>>157112692
>nobody plays CoD on PC
Wow, I thought I just heard something STUPID.

>>157112692
What does your computer chips have to do with it?

>>157112830
He has a semi-good computer, so he's an expert on a platform he clearly doesn't use since the PS4 is clearly "superior"

>>157112654
Their skills are Piss Poor

CoD has always been a shit series tbqh

>>157114306
Is that why it makes so much money?

>>157114592
It makes so much money because teenagers love it and can't tell when they're being fed shit.

>>157111723
the group finder is bad
>>157111983
You had to grind for days upon end to get high enough gear to do the raid, delaying it gave everyone until then a fair chance to level properly

>>157114694
>He says this on 4chan and in a fucking Halo thread

>>157114592
And Transformers is the greatest movie of our time.

>>157115243
in the 80's

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>people actually play OHK With Shitty Hit Detection the game®™
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKMjw2qEd88

Why do I keep coming back expecting different from Halo 5? I always get fed up with this bullshit game then I'll think about the CE campaign or the fall of reach by nylund and Ill have the urge for Halo, only to get shit on by Halo 5.

>>157115469
Maybe actually play the multiplayer and not the shitty campaign.

>>157116218
Pretty shit desu.