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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, October 8th:
1480 – Great stand on the Ugra river, a standoff between the forces of Akhmat Khan, Khan of the Great Horde, and the Grand Duke Ivan III of Russia, which results in the retreat of the Tataro-Mongols and the eventual disintegration of the Horde.
1806 – Napoleonic Wars: Forces of the British Empire lay siege to the port of Boulogne in France by using Congreve rockets, invented by Sir William Congreve.
1856 – The Second Opium War between several western powers and China begins with the Arrow Incident on the Pearl River.


>News
EU4 - 22/09
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-22nd-of-september-2016.970333/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!IkNwBRKR!WI_JYByFpRFzXLx3d1uD2A

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6 - 15/09/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V8
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>156817724
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Release the fucking ck2 patch paradox
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uh oh, the Hybernians don't think Jesus is divine anymore
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"texan" """"""""""""""""""""""""""""culture"""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Reposting for HPM.
Hey, HPM. I know you're probably being dissected by favela monkeys for your valuable organs atm but incase you ever come back I fixed Australia again. When I initially did it I basically just drew a line in the sand in random places but I actually researched it this time and redid it, so the provinces now follow in game rivers and are much more accurate to how the situation was in real life. I think it helps get across how vast and sparse Australia was and to a large degree still is but if you don't like it then you can keep the current version.
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>>156913091
You didn't get first so I will disregard your opinion
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Reminder
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>>156912779
>make thread 20 posts early again
You're a sad little man
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>>156913249
MOSLEY WASN'T A RED REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>156913362
What are you talking about? None of those words mean anything to me
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>>156913561
Again, none of these words mean anything to me. You're deranged
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>>156913561
D-do your even speak our language?
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>>156913792
>tfw the final solution wasn't final enough
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>2016
>not being a staunch NatSoc
I want kikes to leave this general
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>>156913042
What mods is this?
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>>156914176
>Soc
>not being a kike
Pick one and only one.
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>2016
>Not emulating Codreanu

Fucking scrubs I swear
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>>156914240
>jews are nazis
whos your dealer
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Well that was a nice event!
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>>156914240
>there are still people who believe that National Socialists were socialist
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>>156914176
And I want 4chan's 18+ rule to be followed. Neither of us will get what we want.
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>>156914375
Don't care
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>>156914338
Redpill me on corduroy, I know literally nothing about him.
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>>156914427
>implying the """"""leftist"""""" nazis didn't have the best tanks
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I really hate this "nazis are leftists" meme. It wasn't EVER funny.
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>>156914338
literally who
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>>156914359
>socialists aren't kikes by definition
whos your dealer
>>156914441
>there are still people who believe that socialists weren't socialist
>>156914740
Reality isn't supposed to be funny.
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>>156914824
>Reality isn't supposed to be funny.
But you're a hoot.
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>>156914824
Nazis privatised too many industries to call them socialists. They were about as socialist as Tony Blair.
http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
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>>156915148
THINGS
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>>156913123
If you didn't get the memo Alex is gone forever
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>>156915268
CAN
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I might be banned for off-topic, but I will post some screenshots.
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>>156914996
I'm not real though
>>156915148
>letting industries being owned by government proxies is somehow privatized
I'm not sure what you were trying to say here.
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>>156915676
Source for them being owned by government proxies?
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Anyone know where to download a pirate copy of Reaper's Due?
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Is HoI4 good yet?
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>>156916241
Would your rather have WW1 never have happened or Hitler won WW2?
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>>156916241
Why is she riding a machine gun?
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>>156916496
She's a witch and she's using an anti-tank rifle as a broom.
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>>156916438
Third option, Soviet Union wins the Cold War. :^)
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>>156916646
that wasnt one of the options lad
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A revolutionary people's coup has taken place in the ROC, we've made peace and united the two China's. Now to take on the Japanese.
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Lets discuss ck2 mods.
I tried that Tamriel mod and it was fun unifying the Argonians but I couldn't get the last province where I had a claim on from Morrowind since it was just too mighty and nearly never in war with anyone.
I also tried to build up Cyrodil from the Imperial city and was everytime completly fucked over by others.

Then I tried this mod which name I forgot. It playy in the Americas in the future with lots of new religions and cultures. But it was actually lame since I wasn't able to imerse in this unusual setting.


Tell me your mod story so maybe I will find something interesting to try out.
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>>156915916
Did you even study your own belief system? The coal and steel industries along with the banks were owned by government puppets after the "privatization".
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>>156916770
uninstall.exe
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>>156916803
Try CK2+ and HIP for Vanilla+ settings
Also try when the world stopped making sense for migration period antics.
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>>156916770
>posting videogames
fuck off and unistall
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>>156916860
So you're saying if a business owner supports his government, that is a kind of socialism, irrespective of actual policies?
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>>156917024
You really could tell me some example stories of your experience and a little about those mods.

This makes it hard to start to discuss on it.
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>>156913249
Reminder "anti-communism" is code for "anti-white"
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>>156917027
>comparing machinations compiled to exploit the vulnerability of the modern consumers' ineptitude of purchasing logic to videogames
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>>156916438
WW1 never happening definitely.
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>>156917121
I'm saying if government controls the industry or even a considerable part of it either directly or through loyalists who wouldn't be in control of the company if not for the will of the government (aka puppets), that's pretty socialist. The policies could literally be anything, doesn't matter if they aren't upheld.
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>>156917450
So Thatcher was a hardcore socialist when she privatised British Steel?
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>>156917194
CK2+ and HIP are really just vanilla+. They add all sorts of features to vanilla mainly to enhance the vanilla experience.
When the World Stopped Making Sense is a mod about the Migration Period. Rome is down on its knees and the WRE is past the point of no return. It has some fun migration-like mechanics.
Also an event chain on the rise of islam so that's always fun.
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Why is France so easy to play? And what do you think of my Grossefranciums?
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>>156917401
Would the monarchs of Europe have defended the interests of the indigenous worker as fascism did?
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>>156916438
Axis victory
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>>156917690
They wouldn't have defended them at all, so yeah just like fascism did.
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>>156916438
WWI never happened, if Hitler won my grandparents would've probably been exterminated and I wouldn't be able to post dank memes on a Bhutanese rice cook book.
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>>156918283
>ulm
>>>/reddit/
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>>156917524
Was it transferred to government puppets? Was it operating under direct orders from the government under the pretense of being independent and privately owned? If yes, then yeah, that's a pretty socialist move. Don't know much about this case in particular, but it was a plc if I recall correctly.
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>>156917808
>implying the nazis didn't save the working class
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>>156917674
>eu4
Wrong thread. EU4 isn't grand strategy by and stretch of the imagination.
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>>156918589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMNXWid9fnI
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>>156918589
hello????
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>>156918674
stop shitposting
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>>156918809
t. eu4 babby
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>>156918884
t. still plays Liquoria 2
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>>156918954
t. can't understand victoria 2
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>>156918575
>implying unemployment is somehow a meaningful measure of anything and you can't solve it by literally giving everyone useless jobs for which their is no demand
>implying forced labour doesn't decrease unemployment
What did he mean by this?
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>>156919012
>waah the government shouldn't have paid people to build roads and other vital services, that's cheating
t. an clap pro
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>>156919006
What do you think I played before CK2 came out?
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>>156918750
Redpilled and based.
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>>156919124
I think you hadn't even heard of grand strategy games until paradox started pandering to the casual market for money.
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>>156919118
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>>156919252
Then you're wrong, buckaroo
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>>156919329
Is the joke supposed to be that they've re-introduced currency
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>>156919425
Good job
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>>156919329
We both know I'm not and that you're desperately trying to damage control by saying you solely play HoI3.
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>>156919487
Well it's not as ridiculously over the top as the ancap pictures so I wasn't sure if I was missing something
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>>156919118
>building roads/infrastructure in the desert where nobody would need them wouldn't decrease unemployment
>making people dig up random holes in the ground and paying them for it wouldn't decrease unemplolyement
>that's cheating
>an clap pro
What did he mean by this?
>>156919259
>posting a meme picture without the actual meme
>i've seen a cool word better post my immediate reaction to it like an animal :D
>i couldn't wait 1 post to see that i shouldn't post meme images without the actual meme
What did he mean by this?
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>>156919425
Yes
>>156919519
I never said I play HoI3, my man. I own HoI3 and have a total of 18 minutes in it on steam.
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>>156919609
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>>156919573
The real question is why wouldn't someone break NAP on his own since it'll break anyway
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>>156919329
>I've never heard of labor vouchers or understand even the basics of socialist theory: the post
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>>156919635
We go through this same routine every damn day. You shit on vicky, I ask you whidh games you like, you say HoI3/DH in an attempt to appear "hardcore" but the reality is you are a nuparadox pleb and you solely play EU4 and HoI4.
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>>156919767
Isn't HoI4 a literal failure even sales wise
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>>156919767
You have me confused for someone else. HoI3 and DH are too autistic for me.
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>>156919609
>>building roads/infrastructure in the desert where nobody would need them wouldn't decrease unemployment
>GERMANY HAS DESERTS
FUCKING WEW, ME LADDO
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>>156919834
Yep.

>>156919846
So you admit you're a nuparadox pleb who solely plays EU4 and HoI4?
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>>156919876
>i've been shown to be an idiot better start memeing the shit out of it so no one notices
>implying germany is relevant to the concept of unemployment and the phenomenon hasn't been seen anywhere else
>implying thought experiments can only be conducted on german soil
What did he mean by this?
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>>156919573
>>156919701
Use articles properly next time or you will have to go back. We usually use 'the' before acronyms in this context.
>>156919672
Sorry, I don't speak the reddit tongue. Speak my language or go back to /r/paradoxplaza
>>156919739
If you are a socialist you have to go back to your home site which is also known as reddit.com
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I don't even own HoI4, you literal retard.
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>>156920216
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>>156920216
>Use articles properly next time or you will have to go back. We usually use 'the' before acronyms in this context.
He's uh
He's not using 'the' improperly.
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>>156920096
>i think germany has deserts because im retarded
>i wanted to buy shares in the DDABF (Deutsche desert autobahn foundation) but couldn't because hitler is a meanie commie :-DD
>i shit on germany all day for being denied the opportunity to invest in this lucrative enterprise
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>>156920295
It's 'the' NAP not just NAP in the context he was using it in. Seems like you don't understand this since you're from the third world. It's okay man just don't make the same basic mistake next time. We usually put 'the' before acronyms in that context.
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>>156920280
>le liqqy le liqqy
>2105 hours in a game he shits on all day
Top fucking kek at your life.
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>>156920489
Did you recently have a lobotomy?
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>>156920096
>spout the same fucking copypastas about roads in deserts from libertyandnoobama.com
>even though it is completely incompatible with the topic we're discussing
>get called out on it
>rather than simply admit your mistake you spazz out further
This is gold.
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>>156920461
No man. You don't use 'the NAP' in the context of this meme. It's just 'violating NAP'. That's like complaining about misusage of you're in 'you're waifu is shit'.
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wot should i do to brazil
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>>156920593
I'm not the one who shits on games he has played more than 2k hours of my life on, lad.
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>>156920636
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>>156920375
>i think thought experiments about unemployment must be consistent with german geography
>i think hitler was a commie
>i think germany is anything other than a muslim shithole at this point
What did he mean by this?
>>156920594
>liberty and a democrat are somehow not mutually exclusive
>copypastas
>a thought experiment about unemployment is incompatible with discussing unemployment
What did he mean by this?
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>>156920671
>1899
>1.47m
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>>156920772
Who are you quoting?
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>>156920772
>be shown to be an idiot
>prove it by posting nothing but "what did he mean by this?"
pottery
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>>156920707
Are you okay? Is there a reason behind your immense frustration? Did mommy buy the wrong dipping sauce for her little boy's tendies?
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>>156920636
No, you fucking third worlder. Are you implying that 'violating non aggression principle' is a valid English sentence?
>That's like complaining about misusage of you're in 'you're waifu is shit'.
One is a denial of English grammar and the other is just a meme way of writing a similar sounding word.
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>>156920865
>2105 of your life wasted before you realised the righteous glory of eu4
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>Venice and Ottomans declare war on me within 2 weeks

Being Byzantium is suffering.
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>>156920772
>>i think thought experiments about unemployment must be consistent with german geography
In the context of building roads in places where people actually lived and industry was actually developing as opposed to literally in the middle of fucking nowhere yes.
It's like saying people who are farmers are not gainfully employed because they're just smacking the ground and throwing seeds into it or that researchers are not gainfully employed because they scribble incomprehensible gibberish onto papers.
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>>156920841
whats the problem chief?
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>>156920978
Why are you so sphincter irked?
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>>156920772
>these aren't copypastas
you unironically specifically cited deserts in a discussion about germany
Then you're even more retarded than I thought. Atleast if it was pasta you'd have had a reason to say "deserts", despite knowing Germany doesn't have deserts.
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>>156920968
It is literally part of the fucking meme. And actually I have the perfect counterargument -
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization is commonly known as NATO. We generally say 'Russia has incited the wrath of NATO', not 'Russia has incited the wrath of the NATO'. Literally kill yourself.
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>>156921108
>he hates "liqqy 2" so much
>despite spending 87 full days of his life playing this shit.
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>>156920858
>i'm literally retarded and i like using old /jp/ memes
What did he mean by this?
>>156920861
>be shown to be an idiot
>still try to deny it by spouting memes, deflecting and shitposting
What did he mean by this?
>>156921019
>implying that has anything to do with the initial argument of "unemployment isn't a useful measure of economic prosperity"
What did he mean by this?
>>156921113
>i unironically think that a thought experiment about the concept of unemployment should be consistent with the geography of any particular country
>i unironically can't check if something is a copypasta or not by using google
What did he mean by this?
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What's the best anyone's managed to do with japan's industry score without blobbing or gamey shit like fucktons of railroad foreign investment

It's 1883 and they only a score of 382 and the UK has that plus a thousand
I guess that's historical though
What's not historical on a sort of related note is that Italy always seems to be really strongly industrialized in all of my games
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>>156921346
>implying that has anything to do with the initial argument of "unemployment isn't a useful measure of economic prosperity"
But that isn't the initial argument. You brought that up as part of an argument to negate the very low unemployment rate under nazi regime.
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>>156921146
>I have the perfect counterargument
No you don't. "Violating non aggression principle" sounds fucking retarded to any native speaker, not that you would know since you're a shitskin.
NATO has become its own word so it's perfectly acceptable not to use it without 'the' in that context.
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>>156921346
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>>156921346
>>i unironically think that a thought experiment about the concept of unemployment should be consistent with the geography of any particular country
>a thought experiment about a desert country should be consistent with a country that obviously has no fucking desert
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>>156921541
It's actually because NATO is short for "The North Atlantic Treaty Organization", not short for "North Atlantic Treaty Organization". Similarly within the actual meme itself, NAP is short for "the non aggression principle" you fucking asshat. Do you get assblasted at memes all the time?
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>>156921234
Are you
a) a literal retard with a sub 80 IQ who is convinced that there are less than 5 people on /gsg/
b) baiting
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>>156921456
>i can't read the posts i'm replying to and i for some reason think that my opponent is saying unemployment wasn't low under the nazi regime
What did he mean by this?
>>156921593
>i'm literally retarded and I can't replace desert with any other similar word my autistic germany obsessed brain would find comfortable
What did he mean by this?
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>>156921234
All of that Liqouria has tranformed your brain into mush, my mentally retarded friend
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>>156921693
>you will never go on a 2105 hr vicky binge followed by doing nothing but shitting on it
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>>156921768
>>i can't read the posts i'm replying to and i for some reason think that my opponent is saying unemployment wasn't low under the nazi regime
I don't think that
Your statement is that a low unemployment rate doesn't necessarily reflect economic prosperity and therefore you raised examples of when it wouldn't be useful measures of prosperity.
We've shown you that these conditions don't apply.
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>>156921871
So which one is it?
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>>156921768
Lad, Germany has NO arid land. No tundra, no desert, nothing like that. Your "thought experiment" only makes sense in a country with arid land like Saudi Arabia or Australia.

And Australia could use some decent roads.
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>>156921634
No it isn't. Why do you think your shitskin brain is more capable of English than a native speaker?
NATO stands for "North Atlantic Treaty Organization". NAP stands for "non-aggression principle". There is no fucking THE there.
NATO is a separate word due to such common usage and you shouldn't use 'the' with it in that case.
>Do you get assblasted at memes all the time?
No, but I usually get angry when third worlders like you use English like retards.
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>>156921952
>he loves "liqqy" so much
>but he hates himself for liking it
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>>156922089
>No it isn't. Why do you think your shitskin brain is more capable of English than a native speaker?
Because I'm literally a native speaker you fucking retard and know that correct grammar does not fucking apply within a meme.
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>>156922124
So it's A
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>>156922314
It's obviously B(aiting) you git
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>>156921907
>i can't understand the basic fact that low unemployment doesn't equal prosperity and I think for some reason that showing unemployment stats is somehow a good argument for anything
What did he mean by this?
>>156922001
>germany doesn't have land that's not occupied by anything
>germany doesn't have any uninhabited plains where nobody would need roads
>Australia
What did he mean by this?
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>>156922343
You never know with Liqouriafags
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>>156922170
You aren't though. You can't just suspend low level grammar like articles even if it's in a meme. You aren't a native if this sentence sounds completely natural to you "violating non-aggression principle"
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>>156922531
IT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO SOUND NATURAL WHAT THE HELL DON'T YOU GET
"I CAN HAZ CHEEZEBURGER" IS NOT NATURAL NO MATTER HOW YOU SPIN IT
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>>156922489
>i love sucking dicks
What did he mean by this?
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>>156922362
>>germany doesn't have any uninhabited plains where nobody would need roads
They don't. You're never more than 10 miles from a populated area, it's one of the most densely populated countries in Europe. How do you not know this?

>this is what happens when casuals play games without pops
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>>156922531
>You can't just suspend low level grammar like articles even if it's in a meme
But you can
In fact suspending or adding them randomly is part of engrish as a forced meme (and in real life).
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>>156922650
>"I CAN HAZ CHEEZEBURGER" IS NOT NATURAL
I think I found the fucking redditor. It's pretty natural for the dialect of meme speech it was written in. Dropping articles like you've did isn't natural though. Don't try to excuse your ESL tier understanding of grammar, just admit it and try to improve yourself.
>>156922882
>I'm a native
>violating non-agression principle sounds natural
Pick one.
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Appeasement was a mistake lads.
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>>156922995
uninstall.exe
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>>156923150
"Donald Trump wants to leave TPP"

You're right. Sounds pretty fucking natural to me.
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why can't i declare war
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>>156922990
>Pick one.
It doesn't need to sound natural. I have literally never seen a single version of that meme picture with 'the NAP' instead of just 'violating NAP'. I haven't made any of them either, I'm judging off the ones being posted in /gsg/ and other generals.

>I think I found the fucking redditor
>it's pretty natural for the dialect of meme speech it was written in
So what you're saying is that memes are allowed to decide to fuck up grammar because they can. Ima firin mai lazor is also natural for that 'dialect' if you're going to call it that but it's not natural English.
I don't even know what you're trying to accomplish besides relieving your butthurt at memes not being hyper serious English. You're intent on shitting on my English when I don't believe I've made any glaring ESL-tier errors in this ''''argument''''.

>>156923306
It's actually correct.
NAFTA = "(The) North American Free Trade Agreement"
TPP = "(The) Trans-Pacific Partnership"
There's articles using them like this.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/06/news/economy/trump-nafta/.
> Others, including Gary Hufbauer, senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a proponent of NAFTA, say it's not clear what would happen since the U.S. has not faced this situation before.
See?
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I think it depends on what it's preceding. Take for example: "the NF"L (the National Football League) and "the MLB" (the Major League Baseball)

Only the first sounds right when fully pronounced, but I always say and type with "the" preceding both when shortening them.
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>>156923562
This is correct. But in which case, what is the precedent for (the) NAP?
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>>156923562
Maybe if the autist just realizes that the meme itself has a custom of using it as NAP and not the NAP so people do the same out of custom he'd be able to move on with his life.

>>156923689
You can look at it two ways.
Either NAP = (the) non-aggression principle and you simply leave "the" off, or you can say it's incorrect and that this is how the meme works.
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Now we solved both arguments, what should we argue about now?
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>>156924009
How the might of humanity can defeat a level 40 epic wizard
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>>156923537
If you were an actual native you would understand that it isn't universally applicable. The NAFTA sounds wrong in your sentence but this one sounds totally normal.
"Where does the TPP leave China and Europe?"
> I don't believe I've made any glaring ESL-tier errors
Violating non-aggression principle is ESL tier shit. Learn to admit your mistakes you fucking nigger.
>>156923848
The meme itself was made by an ESL. I've seen multiple memes of the same kind and they had horrible fucking grammar in multiple places, not just in the NAP part. Seems like a bunch of the really popular ones was made by a shitskin like yourself.
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>>156924009
>Now we solve both argument, what should we argues about now?
Fixed that for you. You don't need to use proper grammar within a meme.
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I think maybe the syllables have something to do with it. We pronounce NAFTA and NATO with two syllables, but we spell out TPP and NAP is either the same or one syllable. The two syllables don't need "the", and the spelled out and one syllables do need "the".
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>>156924051
>it says it wants to help us slay lich
Fixed that for you. You don't have to use 'the' within a meme.
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>>156924057
>The meme itself was made by an ESL
That is why we fucking follow it. You don't suddenly 'correct' memes.

>hurr he must be a shitskin
The concept of it not being universally applicable is because the "the" can be implied by the abbreviation depending on which sounds better. "...a proponent of North American Free Trade Agreement...' doesn't sound natural either, but that is okay because the "the" can be implied by the acronym.

>>156924198
He is not using a meme though. You are literally the type to complain about 'you're waifu is shit' because this is incorrect grammar and according to you does not stand.

>>156924310
>he is so assblasted he's resorted throwing hissyfits
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>>156924289
in other words, they become morelike words than acronyms (i think that's what it is), so dropped the "the" is acceptable
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Why is \gsg\ so bad?
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>>156924484
Don't you mean "the \gsg\"?
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>>156924289
I honestly don't give a fuck since I didn't study English through a textbook like that fucker did. I just go with whatever sounds natural and not retarded, pretty easy to do if you are a native.
>>156924386
>That is why we fucking follow it.
That's not an integral part of the meme though you fucking esl. This meme you've just posted is written with proper grammar. The fucked up grammar isn't integral and you just look like a retard when you say violating nap.

Except it isn't implied in the case with the NAP. It just sounds fucking wrong and you aren't a native if it doesn't make your ears bleed.

>He is not using meme though.
Fixed that for you. You don't have to use proper grammar within memes.

Here, I've even procured a meme with proper grammar. How will you evade this one, you slimy esl motherfucker?
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>>156924807
>hurr he can't be a native!
Literally born and raised in the Nassau County of Long Island, New York. You're literally grasping at straws because this is the only argument you have for taking a fucking meme picture so seriously.
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>>156925034
Fuck off Yank
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>>156925034
A native using/defending ESL tier grammar is even worse. At least you can't say you're just a poor shitskin who had to learn English as a second language. This mistake is pretty fucking embarassing if you're over the age of 15 which I already doubt at this point.
>hurr
Nice reddit meme. Fuck off back to your home website.
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>>156924807
>>156925192
>>156925301
>Except it isn't implied in the case with the NAP. It just sounds fucking wrong and you aren't a native if it doesn't make your ears bleed.
not him but even it sounds weird NAP and the NAP tend to be used interchangeably for some reason
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle
>inb4 wikishit
ye but wikipedia has pretty good grammarfags afaik so...
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>>156925367
like just saying
I might be retarded because I had to look NAP up since it thought it meant non aggression pact or something
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>>156925034
Also I'm taking my fucking meme back so you make yourself look like an idiot in the future in some other thread when you decide to post the meme.
>>156925367
I don't know the exact grammar behind this but I'm not that interested to be honest. I don't have to know it since I'm not a shitskin
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>>156925301
>>156925543
>nice reddit meme
Hurr durr isn't a reddit meme any more than the coolface is you fucking git
>defending
I'm not 'defending it', I'm telling you to get the fuck over it.

>I'm taking my meme back
>he's so fucking retarded he can't even use the archive or imagehash search
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>>156925543
>I don't know the exact grammar behind this but I'm not that interested to be honest. I don't have to know it since I'm not a shitskin
>I can use incorrect grammar and shit on people for grammar because I'm not brown even though my entire country will be brown soon
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You're all insufferable. Teenagers discovering this general was the worst thing to happen to it.
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>>156925901
Fuck off greycunt

Teenbros are the future of based /gsg/
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>>156925662
It is though. Nobody here uses it in the way you just did. It's used exclusively to mock redditors like you.

I won't 'get the fuck over' such a bastardization of my own language. Since you claim to be a native you should care more about ESLs coming here and shitting up the thread with their third world grammar.
>he's so fucking retarded he can't even use the archive or imagehash search
I can, not so sure about you though.

>>156925732
>'violating non-aggression principle' is correct grammar
Fuck off, nigger.
>even though my entire country will be brown soon
You don't even know my country though. It's pretty white and it ain't changing any time soon.
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I can find every Paradox game in a torrent nice and easy except Victoria 2. What's up with that?
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>>156925957
Are the teenbros white and based? If not, they need to fuck off.
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How in gods name do I organize this mess?
Im playing as the Taiping Qlique and my force limit is so absolutely huge its insane

What are some good strats for organizing 1000+ regiments?
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>>156925997
>Fuck off, nigger.
You just admitted that you didn't care about correct grammar. I'm not the guy you were shitting on but that just undermines your entire argument, you just should've flat out not admitted this shit.

>>156926080
Something something liquor
In all likelyhood it died off with the tpb / kat purge and nobody bothered to make it again
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>>156926146
You can't.
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>>156926146
Shove them all in one province, split until happy
Laugh away the hundreds of thousands of attrition deaths, chinks are a renewable resource
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>>156926227
But I do care about correct grammar usage, I just don't care about the exact rules since that is of little use to a native speaker who isn't planning on becoming a writer. I wouldn't be shitting on someone saying 'violating non-aggression principle' if I didn't care.
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>>156925997
>Since you claim to be a native you should care more about ESLs coming here and shitting up the thread with their third world grammar.
I shit on them all the time in other threads, except it is literally a fucking meme picture. When they begin typing in a way that is actually annoying to read then you shove them out. If you actually got triggered by a single missing or extra article then I don't know what the fuck to say since apparently even the Wikipedia article uses it without the 'the'. Have you never seen what an actual ESL types like? Hell I'm pretty sure you've done something stupid and forgot a capitalization or a period somewhere before. I guess you're a fucking ESL now.
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>>156926370
If you don't care about the exact rules how can you possibly know if it's correct or not
Plenty of things sound fine to native speakers but are actually technically wrong, it's why weirdly enough the grammar section tends to be the easiest section for ESLs but hard for native speakers because it's designed to trap people who rely on it "sounding right".
>>
ooo
mah liqqua my liqqua
yeah
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That was fun, but we should've covered the globe in the teachings of Cathol.

I think it's probably easier singleplayer than coop though since you can pause and play more effectively.

Coop as Knights, Cyprus>Jerusalem and Papal States
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Do I become a monarchy and go fascist later or go ezmode communism?
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So ends the argument between someone who doesn't care about grammar as long as it is in a meme and someone who doesn't care as long as it sounds right
Now both of you guys stfu and post something else
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>>156926849
uninstall
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>>156926384
Capitalization and punctuation aren't good indicators of being a fucking ESL.
Yeah, I've seen a bunch of them. I've even seen one in this thread and I happen to be talking to him right now.
Here, let me lay it out for you -
1. You think 'violating non-agression principle' sounds natural = You're an ESL.
2. You think it sounds like shit = Good, you were just wrong on this one issue and you admit it.
>>156926497
I don't need to know that to speak naturally. Also you can pick up correct grammar from literature. Most natives who make some native tier mistakes usually don't read much
>it's why weirdly enough the grammar section tends to be the easiest section for ESLs but hard for native speakers
Yeah, and that's so important and relevant. ESLs can get all the scores they like but they're still shit at speaking naturally (compared to natives).
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So as someone who's been out for a while, what did happen to HPM?
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>>156926917
See >>156926852.
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>>156926834
>Communism
No
>>156926909
No
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what are the D1-50 files in the common/countries folder for?
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>>156926834
Why did you blob into Anneey?


Gommie swiss sounds horrifying.
Non monarchist fascist or a paradise without roads.
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>>156926917
>I don't need to know that to speak naturally.
So you don't, as I said, care about grammar. Just that it 'sounds right'. Yes?
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>>156926828
What's this
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>>156926917
>1. You think 'violating non-agression principle' sounds natural = You're an ESL.
Actually, I think 'violating N-A-P' sounds natural. 'violating non-aggression principle' sounds retarded, but I think 'violating N-A-P' sounds just fine.
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>>156927061
A blob. Here, have this interesting screen shot I took.
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>>156927014
Switzerland hungers for ports

Communism would work well with Switzerland if the party is pro-military.
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>>156926946
>the HPM
the FTFY
you don't have to use correct grammar within a meme
>>156927024
Sounding right usually correlates with using correct grammar. I do care about grammar I know to be right though. I just don't care much about going out of my way to investigate how other grammar works, like in the case we were just discussing.
>>156927108
Yeah, you're an ESL. Just buy some better textbooks before arguing with a native. It's great that I can't hear your accent through text or you couldn't have argued for so long.
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>>156927108
>>156926917
Would anyone be surprised if this was the same retard samefagging?
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>>156927191
>more shitposting is a good idea
Genius.
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>>156927229
>Sounding right usually correlates with using correct grammar. I do care about grammar I know to be right though. I just don't care much about going out of my way to investigate how other grammar works, like in the case we were just discussing.
Then you're literally just as bad as the ESL you're arguing with. He's just arguing off what he thinks sounds natural too and neither of you know what you're actually on about.

>>156927260
Might be. I fell for bait then.
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>>156927260
>what are post timers
>what are posting styles
the idk
>>156927338
Doesn't matter. He doesn't have any authority over a language that isn't his native tongue. I'm right just by being a native in this case since his English is literally newly immigrated pajeet tier shit.
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>>156927061
Religious map mode.
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>>156927520
>what is using a second device
>a person can't deliberately change their posting style ever
Nice damage control though.
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>>156927229
>I do care about grammar I know to be right though. I just don't care much about going out of my way to investigate how other grammar works
You do realise that, with that statement, you presented yourself as ignorant buffoon arguing only for the sake of elitism and arguing?
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>>156927520
>doesn't matter
>I'm right
No. You're literally as bad as he is since you don't have some sort of proof of being native either and are simply going off 'what sounds right', and in this case you actually seem to be wrong from the little I've gathered - while NAP generally needs an article, it can still imply the article on its own.
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>>156927229
>>156927520
Generally speaking if you pronounce the actual letters of an acronym out loud one after another, the version with and the version without the "the" sound 'equally natural' on average (depends a little on what the actual acronym is).
Stop pretending I'm an ESL just to inflate your own ego.
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>>156927520
>what are post timers
Post timer is 90 seconds though and I'm not seeing two posts within that time
Samefag detected tbqh
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>>156927591
>>156927890
You got me. I was double-crossing you all along.
>>156927652
>elitism
Opinion disregarded.
>>156927701
It needs an article if you are a native. If you are a shitskin you can write it without the article, seems perfectly fine to me.
>>156927772
>spewing some random bullshit just to make himself sound like a native
You're not fooling anyone here, buddy.
>Stop pretending I'm an ESL just to inflate your own ego.
I don't even need to pretend since you are one.
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>>156927772
>>156927890
t. samefag
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>>156927926
Just vanish already, you are pathetic.
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>>156927926
>It needs an article if you are a native. If you are a shitskin you can write it without the article, seems perfectly fine to me.
You're literally wrong though. Grammar doesn't change depending on whether or not you're a native. You don't just get to declare him wrong because he 'sounds off'. That's not how the language works.
At this point you're tipping on being far worse than an ESL because you're using your status as a 'native' to deflect any and all criticism while being able levy unlimited amounts of criticism on him, that's just not how it works my man.
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>>156928063
Nah, I'll stay since. You should fuck off back to your homeland though
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>>156927926
>You're not fooling anyone here, buddy.
>I don't need to prove I just need to claim
Seems like your entire fucking position
End your life
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>>156928129
Maybe grow up a little.
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/gsg/ really is magnificent. The day they cure autism will be a sad day for us.
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>>156928108
I see. You're just another ESL trying to save one of your own kind. Nice try, almost got me there.
Nobody who is a native speaker would dispute this hierarchy in determining the correctness of grammar - actual English scholar >>>> native >>>>>>> esl
>>156928176
Fuck off back to your home site. We don't need any more ESLs here
>>156928261
How much do I have to grow up by and what if I'm already grown up?
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>>156928423
>Nobody who is a native speaker would dispute this hierarchy in determining the correctness of grammar - actual English scholar >>>> native >>>>>>> esl
Actually I debate that, specifically because I'm not an ESL and am not desperate to present myself as a native.
It actually goes like this.
The rules of grammar > everything else.
You've said you don't give enough of a shit to actually look into the rules of grammar. You're no better than he is, and moreover from the little googling I've done on this, you're flat out wrong.
Watch as it's a no true scotsman -
>suddenly I'm an ESL
Oh nevermind he already pulled it beforehand.
Gather around folks, for we have a S P E C I A L show today - Mr. Autism's Magical Multiplying ESLs. Simply disagree with him and you become one!
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>>156928791
>language doesn't change over time
Nice one, ESL. You're not going to fool me with your parlor tricks though.
I'm better simply by being a white native speaker of English. Both are qualities you fuckers seem to lack.

>disagreeing on basic grammar issues with a native speaker doesn't make you an esl
Seems like a cheap tactic to keep your ESL cover. Ain't gonna fool me though.
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Any GS-related hentai recommendations?
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>>156929584
>GS
?
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>>156929584
>the GS
Fixed that for you. You don't have to use proper grammar within a meme.
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>>156928791
>Actually I debate that, specifically because I'm not an ESL
When arguing with someone with his mentality, and I honestly don't get why you bother, its important not to provide any validation to their ludicrous standpoint by indulging it with admission.

So when someone says that all muslims like little girls, it's important to point out to them that they are retarded, but without stating whether or not you are one. Because the moment you do implication is that you take that criteria as worthy of consideration in context.
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>So when someone says that all muslims like little girls, it's important to point out to them that they are retarded
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>>156930484
>>>/u/
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>>156930902
Wrong, it's all that is full of little girls. /u/ is fully of CUTE little girls who are also lesbians. /a/ is full of cumslut little girls.
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>>156930934
You know your tastes best, anon.
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>>156930934
>all
shit I'm an ESL now
/a/
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>ywn emigrate to the andine federation, assimilate and turn it into a reactionary state, enslaving all quechuas
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>>156930202
Lad, you do realise Muslims have an entire process, called thighing, based on what their prophet did to his child bride, right? And you do know thousands of Muslims in the west have been convicted of child abuse in places like Rotherham and Cologne, right? To pretend this isn't happening to further an agenda is disgusting.
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>>156931327
>>156930872
Not even him but it's pretty obvious his objection is >all.
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>>156931157
>the quechuas
as a non-ESL I fixed that for you
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>>156931517
>non-ESL
what does that even mean

>>156931327
Racism isn't tolerated on /gsg/ :^)
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>>156931657
>>non-ESL
>what does that even mean
ESL is generally accepted to mean "the English [as a] Second Language", thus, "non-ESL" would be "having English as other than the second language learned, i.e. first or third, etc".
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>>156931657
Read the last half of a thread
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>>156931862
don't
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>>156932152
This.
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I want to have Oliver Cromwell's Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland as a formable nation for Republican England, but I don't know what to call it?

I was going to just call it 'Protectorate' like the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is just called 'Commonwealth' but it feels a bit lame.
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>>156922995
How can you tolerate playing that game at such a low resolution? I remember back when I first tried playing pirated HOI4 I did so on a 1366x768 screen and everything was way too cluttered for me to have a good time with the game
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this general is just people arguing about english skills, grammar, liquoria and posting argentinian memes. why do we bother coming here laddos
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>>156932339
>I was going to just call it 'Protectorate' like the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is just called 'Commonwealth' but it feels a bit lame.
How about Jolly Ollies Protectorate?
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>>156932349
>How can you tolerate playing that game
All you needed, lad. Perhaps with some quotation marks around game.
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>>156932569
>laddos
heh i too use 4chan my good gentlesir
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>>156922995
Is this game for Android or iOS?
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>>156932569
It used to be good.
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>>156932752
Admit it, this thread is above average for modern /gsg/.
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>>156932680
>waah stop using colloquialisms
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>>156932752
Like /twg/ you mean
>gook dead
>Advisor-chan and all spin-offs gone
>SAXON memeposting gone
>Antiochus memeposting gone
>TRIARII/HOP-LEE-TAYS posting gone
>MILITARY RULER OF ALL JAPAN posting gone
>Bulletdrop shitposting gone
>AKSUM KEKED THE WORLD poster gone
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>>156933059
Good work
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>>156933059
Who are you quoting?
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>>156933059
Utterly based
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>>156933059
How did this who are you quoting meme start anyway?
Some confused redditor who got here and were confused by greentext and then people kept repeating his question?
Or what?
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>>156933479
Some lad got memed on by having his argument paraphrased negatively, so then posted "who are you quoting." And kept doing it to this day.
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>>156933479
it's an old as feudalism meme intended to troll greentext
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>>156933479
>>156933568
>>156933593
It's because ironically, the originally correct way to use greentext was for quoting, only. It originates from usenet emails iirc where replies to emails were preceded with a ">" for the email you were replying to.
Basically 'who are you quoting' used to be a legitimate question way back when, before the >implying and the >tfw and other greentext stories showed up.
It doesn't apply on 4chan anymore but on some alternative imageboards it's actually enforced because of whatever reason whether to keep out cancer or what.
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>>156933819
Fuck off, steamcord.
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Islam must have pretty low moral authority, cos they're converting extremely quickly.
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>>156934602
Did you raze? Provinces with fewer holdings convert way faster, it's really easy to get religious unity as a horde that way.
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>soviets never attack japan
>the nazis just granted the soviets eastern poland, they didn't invade it
Why do Paradox revise this particular piece of history?
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Is Right of Man enough to save EU4?
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>>156934602
Isn't central Africa supposed to be wasteland? How are they West African?
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>>156934748
>in HOI3
Japan usually gets called into war by Germania against SOV, leading to a different but also ahistorical scenario where the Japs are bogged down in eastern Sibera from 1943 to the capitulation of Germany a year or two later (without player intervention of course).

I assume they didn't have SOV attack Poland because the faction mechanics would then have Comintern at war with the Allies. They probably could have hacked together an event to fix it, but this is paradox we're talking about.
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What's it like playing the Jews in CK2?
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>>156935078
Does bloat ice or hip operation deal with it?
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>>156934985
HIP
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>the price of upgrades in IC for Russia in DH
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What is the comfiest nation to play in any GS and why is it ______Byzantium
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>>156935280
From a gameplay perspective there's very little to be gained from having the soviet union enter a two-week war against poland, I don't really see the point of "fixing" it. If it really triggers you then you should go edit the localization to mention soviet divisions flooding into poland following germany's declaration of war.
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>>156935661
t. soviet apologist pro
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How's my Großgermanium doing, /gsg/? It's not as groß as it could be but I started as a count in Schwyz. I've been trying to remove kebab from Jerusalem but the Pope has now cancelled two crusades on me while I was in the middle of fucking shit up so I'm about to go back to blobbing. What should I do?
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>>156935936
>playing ck2 for challenge
>>>/r/crusaderkings
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>>156934741
I didn't raze, I'm settled. I have been winning a ton of holy wars and I just won a Great Purification, so that probably has a big effect.

>>156934985
Parts of it are wasteland, but HIP adds provinces for Tuaregs and other berber tribals.

>>156935936
It's pretty groSS, friend. Make sure to remove Kebab before Kebab removes you.

Nice smooth succession for my Empire. I think I'm gonna take India next.
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>>156936184
>/gsg/ is only for memes, no actual enjoyment of games
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>>156936273
Playing for challenge is directly opposite to playing for fun, lad.
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>>156936363
Eh I'm playing for fun man, was just asking if anyone had a suggestion for where to get more groß. Jeez.
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wat do
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>>156936363
>lad
We get it, you go on 4chan. No one cares.
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Shit lads, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna post on Reddit!
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>>156937053
Help yourself, friendo. Imma just hang back here.
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>>156936891
Take Pastaza and Alto Paraguay
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>thinking about perfect game
>set in cold war
>DH politics
>hoi3 combat
>vickyconomy
>flat 2d map
>mfw i realise it's just EvW
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>>156937763
I'm scared of the USA
They've sphered most of South America
They've sphered me too
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Are there any events or decisions that allow me to annex or puppet Paraguay as Argentina in HPM?
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>>156937837
pax americana, enjoy it, don't fear it
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>>156937896
pax andine federatiums soon

>>156937865
form La Plata?
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>>156937780
>flat 2d map
y tho
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>>156937980
Because the shiny 3D map from EUIV/CK2 is gross.
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>>156937980
the playdough maps look like shit
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>>156937959
Never mind I just got the Paraguay declares independence event which give me a puppet CB
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>>156938041
It's not so bad on CK2 but EU4 and especially HoI4 is abhorrent.

>>156937980
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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Is HIP updated to 2.6.1 and is it compatible with the Reaper's Due?
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wew
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>>156940534
What's the to-go mod for vicky now? Still HPM?
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Okay, I really think it's time to switch characters.
Started as 1066 duke of Pfalz.
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>>156940998
Why not just play your games without mods?
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>>156941502
>vanilla
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>>156940998
ultimate rebooted
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>>156941682
Vanilla.
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Why did EU4 ruin colonization?
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>>156942836
post liquor factories lad
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>>156943272
>mfw some update to it set the 1640-1660 English Interregnum to a Monarchy rather than the Protectorate

High Protectorate not monarchy ok ban christmas :DD
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What are my next goals?
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>>156943465
build liquor factories :DDD
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>>156943465
Did you defend against the yankees?

Also, should I allow public meetings? I'm fascist, and my POPs get so mad that I don't have it

I'll end up killing 1/4 of my population if they rebel
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>>156943272
What do you mean?
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>>156943504
Just shut the fuck up.
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>>156944059
what the fuck
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>>156938364
ye.
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>>156944115
made it better when the tutor said 'sorry I only know Age of Empires haha' and he visibly looked disgusted, had to hide my laughter
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I'm gonna play Japan for the first time in EU4, what are some goals? I'm thinking of unifying the country then converting to Catholicism.
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>>156944703
genocide the koreans
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>>156944843
THIS DESU
H
I
S

D
E
S
U
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>>156944703
>cuckolicism instead of based islam
s m h....
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>>156944974
Islamic Japan would be really interesting actually, I imagine it being some sort of Oriental Sultanate like the Mughals. Although it would've been brought by the Mongol's if they'd won Japan.
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>>156944703
build liquor factories
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>>156944974
t. englishman
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Okay, so far, the only strat that works most of the time for me, as byzantium in EU4 is:
Attack Candar in december, wait for coalition to start, and have ottomans fight for you vs the coalition.
Ottomans will win all the fights, or most of them, their manpower will decrease, which is good in the long run, and you will always win the coalition war, as long as mamluks and maybe crimea aren't part of it.
Anyone else got good ideas?
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Who should I play in V2 DoD and what should my goals be?
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>>156946726
Monarchist Quebec, seize all French colonies.
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>playing frogs in eu4
>Burgundian succession crisis ruined my Austrian alliance
>Iberian wedding firing early is going to fuck up my alliance with castile
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Anyone tried the latest Lux Invicta? Is it playable now with the optimisation?
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>>156947226
i bet you go to r/paradoxplaza and r/leagueoflegends
we all know how much leddit loves their shit memes
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you ok there turk?
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>>156947921
laddo post liquor factories
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>>156948126
good job laddo
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trying to rp in ck2. the royal couple are both syphilitic lunatics. I need adequately crazy ideas.
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>>156948734
I could declare war on my son who I gave a duchy. I could, and probably should murder my wife (she gave me the syphilis). I could murder the pope I guess... antipope! that's probably the thing here. antipope.
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>>156948812
sterilise the syphilis with liquor lad
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I want to try out HoI4 but don't want to buy yet. Where can I get the latest one?
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but Reaper's Due seems farcical.

I've had no major war and no epidemics yet over the past 50 years of gameplay I've had 11 monarchs, most perfectly healthy 20-something year olds when they became king/queen.

Also it looks like people in general marry far less and have fewer children, could it be due to the omnipresent "X is sick" modifier?

It seems bonkers, if you'd want to simulate pre-modern medicine being shitty you ought to make more children and more child mortality instead of this shit.
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>>156949326
Also I've been playing it safe and avoiding seduction focus to avoid STDs but instead every 20 year old king or queen just gets cancer. Is the crown radioactive?
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Gierolt (elected 899.12.21) - died of a bad case of the flu at age 28
Jadwiga (elected 904.5.6) - died of depression at age 37
Swietoslawa (elected 905.7.26) - died of Cancer at age 30
Rycheza (elected 906.1.19) - died of Cancer at age 21
Beatrix (elected 912.9.1) - died of Cancer at age 22
Melisende (elected 914.9.5) - died clutching at her heart at age 22
Danuta (elected 919.6.23) - died of Cancer at age 27
Sybille (elected 921.10.16) - died after a disagreement with a meal at age 38
Sulistryj (elected 933.9.4) - died of Pneumonia at age 26
Pechna (elected 941.7.17) - died of complications related to Gout at age 31
Wieslaw (elected 949.11.28)

ah yes very impressive
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>FINALLY manage to beat the turks as byzantium and retake all the balkans and greece
>realise the save will break once the new patch comes out
FOR FUCKS SAKE JOHAN
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>>156948001
>using anything besides /r/4chan, /r/the_donald and /r/paradoxextra
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>>156950332
You can always keep the old version. Or you can be a man and do it again when the patch releases. Well that or a very long session to paint map before the patch.

Out of curiosity, what ended up working for you?
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Where can I get the steam fix for CK II 2.4.5?
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>>156951151
Allied both Hungary and Poland-Lithuania. Lots of RNG involved but I managed to finally win.
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>>156951143
>/r/4chan
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>>156951521
>>156951143
>reddit
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>>156913123
Some look better but most provinces are too thin, I will stick with the current one for now.
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>>156951640
You should extend the 'Enclosures' modifier to Southern Italy as well, it also had overpopulation problems. This would also encourage Italian emigration to America.
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>>156951747
I need to look at the south Italian problem more closely, I know they moved because of poverty but I don't know if that poverty was because of something else of if it was because (among other things) of overpopulation like it was in Ireland.
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>>156951830
My sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_diaspora
https://prezi.com/yaapcxftnk0o/southern-italy/
http://www.italiamerica.org/id49.htm
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MalFBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA117&lpg=PA117&dq=south+italy+overpopulation&source=bl&ots=5T85E0SmXN&sig=DkDdY3pRzYWy5kloiynO8pkjfLc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic7pLe_K_PAhWDjiwKHb1JAzAQ6AEINDAD#v=onepage&q=south%20italy%20overpopulation&f=false
http://peopleof.oureverydaylife.com/reasons-italians-immigrated-america-8717.html
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/voices/italian_immigration.cfm
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>>156951881
Thanks a lot, I will take a look!
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>>156952024
Burkina Faso
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>>156951830
Also, the last time when I mentioned Ireland's RGOs, you said that you wouldn't change any coal or iron RGOs in case of overpopulation, but what about changing the RGO of Armagh to fruit?
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>>156952136
overconsumption*
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>>156952024
>dubs
>on /vg/
You're an idiot and you've only been here a few months, I would guess.
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>>156951403
Stem fix?
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>>156952136
I don't think that would cause much problem.
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>>156952721
*many problems
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Which of the mememods for Vicky II is best for someone still fairly new? Halfway through my first playthough as Brazil to get a grip on all the mechanics. I gather it used to be vickymod but it looks like that hasn't been updated a while.
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>>156952908
uninstall.exe and play eu4
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>>156952995
I already played EU3 and EU4.
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>>156952908
HPM
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>>156953348
>recommending liquormod
kek
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>>156952908
HPM is the current /gsg/ fad.
PDM offers a more complete expirience but it has performance issues for some people, and AI isn't all that awesome at utilising things it adds.
Hear good things about devide by zero, but haven't bothered to try it yet.
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>>156952908
Get HPM 0.3.3.2 on moddb, the newer versions of HPM are shit and the economy is messed up.
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rate my budget
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>>156952908
HPMeme
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>>156953549
I don't have any problems with the economy in HPM.
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>>156953596
You haven't seen the problems with the overproduction of steel then?
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>>156953643
That's vanilla.
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>>156953530
>PDM
Another redditard decided to stay here for the memes I see.
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>>156953727
t. alex grandi
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>>156953568
>taxing poorfags
>admin and military spending not 100% all the time

lmao

it's like you want your industry to suffer
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>EU4
>5/5/2 Prince-Elector Siegfried I dies
>his son Albert is a 1/2/0
>he's 23
>he has a 1 year old son who is 0/4/1
this just in, a new tradition has suddenly sprung up where the ruler of the nation inspires his troops by charging into battle on the front line wielding his infant son as a club

I'm new to this game, are there any other ways you can totally unintentionally kill your ruler
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>>156953772
there is no point to spending more than 50% on admin after you're at 100% efficiency
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>>156953885
>what are the crime modifiers
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>>156953849
>Press ~
>Type "die"
>Press enter
>Win
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>>156953992
There is no crime, only coexistence.
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>want to make Bolívar proud
>burgers protecting fucking everybody
>can't break into GP to chip away at their influence
>have all prestige techs
>approaching 5% soldier pops
>can't afford too many more manowars
>not enough militancy to pass more immigration reforms
>capitalists desperately want to build clothes factories in the middle of the jungle despite no RGOs for clothes
V-viva la revolución
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>>156953849
RoM adds ability to disinherit and abdicate. The amount of venom that sentence should come with doesn't translate over the web. Other than that, pretenders and republics are my go to to get rid of RNJ's unwanted advanced.
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>>156943610
>allowing groups of 3 or more to meet in public
>probably going to have fun drinking and hitting on sluts
>don't even believe in ein volk, ein reich, ein autist
NORMIES GET OUT REEEEEEE
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How much of _______Africa is appropriate for a Mexican Empire
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>>156954469
none
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>>156954469
Morocco
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>>156954469
see >>156954508
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>>156953759
>he thinks that hating pdmeme makes you a grandidrone
>he doesn't know about waidmod
kek. the state of /gsg/ these days.
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>>156954508
>>156954551
>>156954570
So this is too much then?
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>>156955028
>Mexican Ottoman Africa Egypt
I like it
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It's great what some pops will do when you mess just a little bit with their starting values.
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>>156955028
Take Suez and Eritrea pls
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>Commonwealth being invaded by 150k from France, Hungary, and Austria and some of their friends
>Commonwealth warned me not to go to war a few decades ago because they hate me because they want to steal my capital but they have less than 50k troops so what are they going to do, come stop me from invading Saxony to take a single province?
the answer is yes, yes they will, but they're going to get destroyed by their blatantly anti-human agenda so that's okay I guess
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How's this american border? What are the ideal Imperial Mexican borders?
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>>156956104
I would've said the way they were as default + central America is perfect but I guess Louisiana looks good too. Take Cuba and Alaska.
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Trying to wrap up becoming the King of Nicaea in CK2+ by taking one of the two final provinces from the ailing Greeks that I'll need to create the title when my best heathen general allied with this crazy Paulician swordmaster to bring me down. They had a bigger army after I'd cleaned up the Byzantine army so I just wished for luck and threw mine against theirs.

Battle was a real spectacle. Jarl Bjorn first encountered his rogue general who fled from the sight of him. Then later I had both the general and this guy trigger duel events at the same time. The battle looked like I might well lose it, but after everyone was wounded I managed to capture them both after defeating them both in a duel.

Trying for sainthood now since there's not much else to do for the moment.
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>>156956935
Sadly my best daughter died. Already as good at fighting as her dad except for the whole leprosy and cancer thing. The only thing worse than seeing her die so young is the fact that my wife gave me only brown sons.
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Here we go lads
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>>156957509
Oh god
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>>156956104
You need Florida and Cuba lad.
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>>156957714
Why are you pretending to be british?
>>
Right-Leaning Libertarian Isolationist Nationalist Traditionalism
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>>156957697
I've made a terrible mistake

>>156957751
Based "stop saying lad" lad
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>>156957886
conquerall USA
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Is there anything sexier than profitable factories?
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>>156957951
Yes
An orange South Africa in nationality view
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Alright, what should I take?
Sadly, I don't have vassals, so it's gonna be a bit difficult coring all of this, what's my best course of action?
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>>156958489
wrong general
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>>156958489
Every single core
If you 100d them also take every greek culture thing
After that if you have more room take troy
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>http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

I'm trying to download the updated version of CK2, and this links is not working.

Anyone had a good link?
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>>156958624
>>156958642
This is what I can do, I still have more room, but there is no way I can make Poland happy.
What else do I take?
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The freer the market, the freer the people.
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>>156959923
I beg to differ.

t.taxes and tariffs pro
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Maybe it's because I haven't played DH in too long a time, but how the fuck do you win the ACW with the CSA?

I have like 3 infantry divisions total, the rest is shitty militia, which wouldn't be a problem if the US didnt have so many event spawned proper infantry divisions holy shit I just get fucked two months into the war.
>>
>gaining 20-30 economic points in less than 10 seconds with China
How can white people even compete?
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>>156960563
>economic points
in what game???
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>>156958873
Centers of trade. Especially Hudj. If you called poland in with promise, give them at least one province. War reps is another neat thing if you can fit it in (I suspect you cant)
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>>156960664
landlocking balkan holdings and releasing a bulgurian rebel there is anther fun way to gain a lot of land w/o fightuing the turk. certainly take Albania for land access to balkns for conquest..
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>>156960627
Industrial score you homo
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Do you play gs coop?
Any fun themes?
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t. social democrat
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>>156961063
Western and Eastern Roman Empires on Legendary
>>
>Fighting portugal
>Portugal buys condottieri from France
>Fight it with 3x as many troops and lose almost all of them before the unit succumbs

Thank god portugese were dumb enough to leave it at the 3/2/18 state it was when they bought it and not add any infantry in the mix as French probably planned to.
>5/4
>115% discipline

T-t-thanks Louise...
>>
Whats your first advisor as Germany in HoI4?

Schacht, Funk, Guderian or Krupp?

I guess that would depend whether you start constructing civil factories and refineries first or docks and military factories.
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>>156960563
literally the most meaningless score since profitability isn't taken into account and most of it is spamming railroads globally
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>>156951640
Yay, you're back. What happened, me lad? I've missed you.

Anyway, on the off chance you actually wanted the provinces beefed up instead of just saying you'd do it later to shut me up, i've edited it so the provinces should be wide enough.
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What do, lads?
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>>156961895
remove the eternal anglo from the western hemisphere desu
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>>156961998
This is a massacre
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>>156960664
>>156960808
Well, I may have done a bit different what you suggested. Took what I could, also made kebab cancel any claims he had on my land, rest was gold.

What now? I sort of screwed up, since I left the game unpaused while going to the toilet, a couple of years went by. Luckily nothing major happened, but still, what should I do? End goal is restoring roman empire.
Also got a save about 6 years back, just after signing peace.
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>>156961639
>the most meaningless score
>the most meaningless score even though it's essentially what matters the most when it comes to placement
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Much better.
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>>156912765
R&I the hastebin is not fucking working fix that
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>>156962625
I'm especially partial to mexican urumqui
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>>156963303
>Partido antireelecionista
???
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>>156963483
They want to rule the country, but never for more than four years at a time.
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>>156963596
or they'll just abolish elections :DD
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Speaking of weird party mechanics, liberals and fascists control almost 70% of the government despite only having 30% of the vote. Yay for vicky mechanics.
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>>156963985
You really know shit about the game don't you?
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I managed to conquer Athens and Crete.
What should I do with them?
Create a 2 provinve Athens and feed it greek provinces?
I don't want to extend my comfy crimea too much
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>>156962375
You should play. There isn't a set strategy past first war, just play like you would any other start. Consolidating balkans tends to be a priority.
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>>156963985
You're only on artisans moron
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I'm Pannonia, a Jewish kingdom settled by tribesmen from the Magyar khanate

Realm is finally stable, I'm rich as shit and chain upgrade all my provinces, and I've secured an alliance with the byzzies.

What do now? My game goal is to establish greater Israel, but I'm not sure how to go about it from here.

Khazaria are close with me, Magyar and Austrasia are Jewish.
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>>156963985
There's nothing more disgusting, dangerous or useless than large artisan pops.
>>
What are some good names for new states in the Republic of Texas? '''''New Mexico''''' sounds awful wetback to me
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>>156965034
Take the Byzantine Empire through inheritance/jewish fuckery then expand and form Großisraeliums Imperiums.
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>>156965173
Will be hard as hell getting in that deep because holy shit do ERE emperors love to fuck, been considering swearing fealty to the basilieus and use that to slowly dig my way to the throne though.
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>>156936891
Try and get some Pacific colonies
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Why do no capitalists exist in brazil even with the NF?
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>>156943465
try to get some pacific colonies. Eat hawaii if you can
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>>156956104
get Arkansas
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Alright, that's enough mexiblob for a day. Here's a peek at my colonial empire
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>>156965881
nice blob faggot
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shouldn't this event check if ethopia owns alexandria before firing?
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Have any of yall been having nothing but daughters in ck2 ? I feel like Henry VIII, the males seem to be dwindling worldwide for some reason. It's brought me problems with titles held by my dynasty being inherited by patrilineally married women. Huge pain in the desu
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>>156966140
The game doesn't expect you to blob into Egypt so that's why it happens.
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What is the latest version number for ck2w warhammer mod?
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Are any of you modders?

Question: how do you know whether you need to update your mod because a new version of the game is out?
I'm new to modding, but I have spent many hours on a mod that I'm happy with, but it freaks me the hell out now that a new version of the game is out, which of course I just got to have.
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>>156951640
Will you fix the 1860 start?
Are there any ways to readd it myself
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>>156965034
Is it just me or do decadence revolts actually seem to do shit now
I'm glad to see the Abassid blob is gone
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>>156968008
Seems to happen pretty consistently too

The Muhammadid blob was getting pretty real
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>>156967162
Readded it myself
Litteraly the only problems with the 1861 start are caused by HPM renaming and moving provinces
Shit that is easily fixed
Why was the 1861 start even removed in the first place?
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>>156966687
Compare originals of files you changed before/after release. If there is any difference at all you need to update.
>>
What kind of meme run should I go for in uninstall.exe?
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>>156968559
But do you really have to go through all these files yourself, or is there a tool to do so?
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>>156968641
Start as Livonian Order, release Estonia, tag switch to Estonia.
Become the strongest trading power in the Baltics.
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Is HPM alive?
I managed to westernize as the Taiping clique before the warlord period
Now whenever the warlord period happens my game crashes and I can proceed no further

If it matters at all I annexed vietnam before warloding happened

Should I try and track down HPM in the Amazon Jungle or just swith off to another nation until warlord happens
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>>156968925
>Livonian Order
>HoI4
>>
>you cant revoke more than one tittle from traitor or its tyranny
fucking swede
>>
>>156968898
There is a number of tools, from notepad++ compare plugin, to more advanced, which I don't remember the names of because I don't mod.
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>>156912765
how come the DLC isn't on the mega#archive anymore?
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>>156969842
Based Yohanny cracking down on entitled pirate scum.
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>>156969842
Read the readme.
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>>156969343
this, also I tend to sort the files by date modified to help thin out what needs to be compared. Sometimes it works other times not
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I am catching up on old news.

How does blobbing now work in EUIV with the state/territories system? Is it even worth it to blob now?
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>>156970021
now build cogs
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>>156968439
Fixed borders and european and confederate pops
All that is left is to change the native pops in the US, but that shit isnt important
Get your shit together alex
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>>156970140
Blobbing is easy and profitable.
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>>156971547
>that fucking name mod
Never fails to piss me off 2bh.
>>
give me a region and goal for ck2 hip
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>>156971547
>The Confederacy

might as well rename the US to The Republic
>>
>>156972447
>not having 4 "The Empire"s in Europe
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>>156972098
1220, start as catholic french duke of antioch/tripoli
restore a strong eastern empire in greece and anatolia
>>156972447
more like The Union
>>
stop dying /gsg/ you might have things to live for
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>>156973358
good one
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>>156973358
hpm removed byzantium, there is literally nothing to live for
>>
>>156969842
Steamgroup got it taken down
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>>156973520
FUCK OFF REDDIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>156973806
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
frogbaby calling other people reddit
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>mfw living through great pox + illness + wounded as a great character
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>lad makes mod which adds all of Newfoundland and Greenland to CK2, involving dozens of new provinces and hundreds of new holdings
>completely ignored by /r/paradoxplaza
>redditor changes it so instead of being held by Norway it's held by "secret denmark"
>2nd most upvoted post on /r/paradoxplaza
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Is their a way to mod hpm so that when the ACW happens the north becomes "the union" and whoever wins becomes the united states again but with a specific flag depending on who won?
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>>156974656
There is, but nobody would do that because it's retarded.
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>>156974646
kind of a dumb idea for a mod anyways
>>
I SHED THE BLOOD OF SAXON MEN
I SHED THE BLOOD OF 4000 SAXON MEN

I SHED THE BLOOD OF SAXON MEN
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>>156975420
I AINT NO FORTUNATE SON
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>>156975309
True, but it's annoying that a fleshed out mod that time and effort was spent on was completely ignored but a fucking meme requiring no effort is treat as royalty.
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>>156952786
HPM, can you make it so you can claim you cores back from puppets?

Example: If I release Hungary as Austria, why can't I demand burgerland back?

I think a decision on the same lines as the "release vassal" ones, only "reclaim cores" would be appropriate, possibly decisions for giving back their cores as well.
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>>156970183
Fuck cogs.
I have 10 cogs and it's more than enough
>>
>ming has successfully survived, westenized and started to blob
>I come in to siege it down to 20 warexhaustion + sow discontent
>watch it explode to billion tiny states ready for conquering
Nefarious
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>>156974646
Link to the original version?
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>>156975921
>If I release Hungary as Austria, why can't I demand burgerland back?
The point of releasing a nation is that you give up your claim on it.
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>>156976517
My point is why can't I immediately demand it back? I didn't want them to get it in the first place.
>Hungary, you're free now.
>D-do I get your cores?
>No.

>>156976280
http://imgur.com/a/xmrl7
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>>156976750
>I didn't want them to get it in the first place.
Then you shouldn't have given it to them.
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>>156976750
Use changeowner then.
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>>156976875
There's no choice but to give them ALL their cores or nothing. I wanted to give them everything but my cored land.
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>>156976996
Or release vassal and declare for cores immediately after.
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>>156976996
>cheating
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>>156977119
>release puppet: 1 infamy
>acquire cores:free
>repuppet: 10 infamy
It shouldn't cost 11 infamy to do this.
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>>156962625
Take back western Ukraine from the schnitzelniggers
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>>156977257
>not justifying the puppet cb
>>
>Liquoria isn't fun anymore
>CK2 isn't fun anymore
>never could get into HoI3
>EU4 just isn't fun
>HoI4 looks like trash
Is it time to off myself?
>>
Why doesn't the archive include all the DLC anymore?
>>
>>156977743
see >>156969940
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>>156971547
>>156971825
>>156972447
This is an outdated version of the name mod. The one I'm using has the Confederate States as the name
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>>156977612
Leave this place
search for greener pastures i.e. better games&generals
>>
Lads, can you still use gas attack if you sign the geneva convention?
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>>156977938
>not Confederate States of America
What's even the point of the name mod if it's half assed and has meme shit like some caribbean nation's anarcho-capitalist name be "Pirates of the Caribbean"? I'm not kidding, one version had that shit, maybe they removed it though.
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>>156977979
The only other game I really play right now is Overwatch, but that general is full of nothing but redditors and tumblrnigs.
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>>156978123
Isn't that the really mediocre game but everyone loves it because it has a gay couple or something and that's super progressive and edgy?
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>>156978019
I still don't know how to use a gas attack in vicky 2
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>>156978242
what does "TIL" means?
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>>156978584
Research military directionism, it's an invention, meaning once you have that tech it'll eventually pop up.
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>>156978372
>everyone loves it because blizzard made it
fixed
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>>156978792
Today I Learned.
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>>156978941
TIL what TIL means

nice
>>
>>156978372
>because it has a gay couple
It doesn't. That's just the redditors/tumblrnigs and their fanfics.
>>
>>156978941
>>156978792
hint: anyone who uses this is from reddit
>>
>>156979058
TIL >>156978941 and >>156978998 are from Reddit
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PAPAL CONGO
A
P
A
L

C
O
N
G
O
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>>156978242
>repelling
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>>156978037
What should I change or fix? I;m seriously asking as I'm about ready to release the next version.
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>>156979037
>you will never have that unique combination of autism and socially progressive theory that makes you imagine every character as being in a gay relationship with other characters
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>>156965157
Pls respond
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>>156979601
Just use the actual proper names of nations. It's really not that fucking hard. And when you have to make stuff up, don't go full Caleb.
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>>156979454
Ebin Grossegermaniums
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Why do I have so many craftsmen in Sonora? None of my other states are like this
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>>156979795
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>>156979892
Every immigrant "melts" into that craftsman pop whne assimilating.
Be glad it's craftsmen and not soldier or some other shit
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>>156980148
Neat.
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>>156979892
Your only yankee pop was a craftsman so every pop that assimilates joins that craftsman pop.
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>>156980568
>>156980184
That's a bit fucked
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>>156980343
THEY ACTUALLY ANNEXED IT THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
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>>156981209
I never knew how much I wanted a papal congo
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>>156981461
I have no use for this meme strip of land the game just gave me and it'll probably end up costing me as it will be instantly occupied in containment wars but YOLO.
>>
It is not a paradox game, but it is a sort of Grand Strategy. Does anyone here play it? (supremacy1914)
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>>156981614
I played this before I discovered GS. Takes too damn long.
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>Confederate Confederacy
EPIC
P
I
C
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>>156981614
is that for android or iOS?
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>>156981714
Yeah, it is not a game that you can finish in a week. But it is also a good part: you can just open it twice a day instead of spending several hours in a row.
>>156981737
I don't know whether it is available on mobile. I play it on my laptop. It is a browser-based game.
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>>156981714
>the GS
Fixed that one for you. You don't have to use proper grammar within a meme.
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>>156981736
Much better
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>>156981736
I wish V2 offered real confederacy game mechanics. In fact, I wish V2 had real diplomacy and politics.
(Or, to be precise, I wish V2 wasn't V2.)
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>>156981929
I fixed your flag, lad.
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>>156961715
You should probably make the coastal strips as thick as the coastal provinces of Quebec
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>>156981929
>using the alternative flag I made
I'm glad to see someone use it. Personally I like it better than the default one, but /gsg/ told me to keep it there and put the other one as the alternative.
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>>156982189
I think they're thick enough like that. The only place it isn't is the pink province in the Northern territory, but it's already thick enough in the west of the province.
>>
How to succeed as paraguay?
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>>156912765
FIX THE FUCKING HASTEBIN LINK REEEEEE
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>>156982438
be gud
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>>156982309
I know they're pretty thick, but HPM will probably beef them up if you don't
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THEY'RE PROSELYTIZING THE MASSES
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>>156982438
What does mean to succeed?
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>be shit and let the AI control
>this happens
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>>156982230
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>>156982856
same thing am i right
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>>156982891
Huh, nice, better than I expected.
>>
What makes a game a great strategy game?
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>>156982720
not get assraped, have a functional economy
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>>156977612
Play DH Kaiserreich desu lad
>>
http://pastebin.com/0HnVShRu
Here is v0.4 of INHPM. I tried to make it less retarded. As always suggestions are welcome.
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>>156982864
>let AI
ftfy
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>>156983272
As a small nation I usually just build one cement factory, make forts everywhere, regulate military spendings to have a constant level of army and do nothing aggressive.
But that doesn't save from rape anyway. For example, when I played as Morocco like this I was invaded by Spain, Netherlands and Portugal. I ended up as a 1.5Mil nation with 95% education. I've kept all my territory, but this territory was filled with corpses.
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>>156982864
Get encircled bro
>>
It's been 20 years in this CK II game since i've fabricated a claim, even with my 20 Diplo advisor.

what a fun game
>>
>>156923430
If you're someone's vassal and you are declaring war on someone else who is a vassal of the same person, it depends on the level of crown authority, if it is medium, you can't war other vassals of the same kingdom/empire.
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>Switzerland became a great power over Spain
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>>156915494
Why do the French always go full retard and attack in Foix?
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>>156984692
Fabricating claims is the worst, last resort option, not the primary way you're supposed to do it. Dumbass.
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Should I do it?
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>>156943465
>1847
>13/11
>no railroads yet

Prepare for an american dick, that is all you can do
>>
>>156985335
Of course
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>>156943465
Get ready for Manifest Destiny.
>>
>>156985335
Cuba is a single-state colony, right? Why would you ever take the ostend manifesto when you could just place in the sun for 0-5.5 infamy and none of the ridiculous relations hits with every other power?
>>
>>156986073
C O R E
O
R
E
>>
Alright I've decided to stop being a pleb and get Victoria 2. I've watched a few videos and think it will be worth a go. Any big need to know information I should know before I start?
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>>156986387
play prussia
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>>156986213
>100% yankee cuba
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>>156986387
Play the USA one of the best countries to start with.
>>
>>156986387
Play as Japan. You should understand that this game is not about taking land, but about making your land great!
>>
New Eastern border, lads. Couldn't take Estonia because of warscore cap.
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>>156987086
>letting filthy Russians keep their claws on Estonia
Rather be annexed by Germany desu
>>
>>156987086
EBIN GROB DUETCLAND XDXDXD
>>
When I go to load my game the Ironman fist is next to the save name but when the map comes up and asks me to play there is no ironman fist with the green checkmark. What is up with this?
>>
>>156987086
You have horrible borders.
>>
>>156987512
This is CK2 my bad
>>
>>156987086
EB/IN
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>>156987707
Yes, his Germany is Gross after all.
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>>156987707
Horrible borders is the natural state of European countries and unions.
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>>156986387
So the game finished downloading and now it's crashing at launch. Took a screenshot of the error message. What do?
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>>156988309
Did you run it through Steam?
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>>156988309
clear the cache
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I have a couple of questions for you guys:

I won a Crusade and since I had a lot of land to give out, I thought I'd try and create a merchant republic. However, I must have somehow fucked up because now my Grand Mayor is getting the "wrong government type" penalty. What I did was:

- Used the button to create a new random mayor
- Gave that mayor control of the county; his city became the county capital
- Granted him control of the duchy

Now, the duchy had 2 de jure counties in it, but as soon as I did that it split into two. I fixed it by transferring vassalage of the other county to him, but I don't understand why that happened, either.

So the questions are two:

- Why am I getting a "wrong government type" penalty with that grand mayor?
- Why did the duchy split in two?
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>>156988309
reinstall.exe
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>>156988309
Build liquor factories
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>>156988862
yes
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>>156988862
No. Wrong thread.
>>
>>156988862
maybe

keep posting and we'll know for sure
>>
>>156988520
Yeah I bought it through steam
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>>156988862
I doubt it.
What kind of interactions with other players are available in this game?
>>
>>156988759
Wrong govt type is a nerf they applied because theocracies and merchant republics give crazy cash, that's normal

Duchy splits automatically because republics and theocracies by default can only have a small percentage of your land (10 or 20%?). Give the counties to feudal vasals and transfer vassalage to the merchant republic, that will fix it.
captcha: romans a federal
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>>156987512
honestly it was Ironman and now it seems like its not?
>>
>>156989031
Delete
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Victoria II\map\cache
and
C:\Users\yourusername\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Victoria II\map

After it, run the game through the .exe file once.
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>>156987802
>>156987482
Thanks, lads, I made it myself!
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>>156988759
Wrong government type applies to all vassals of count and above rank of liege that is different style of government as in theocracies and republics get this towards a feudal lord.
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>>156988981
>>156989079
I don't own it, but am considering buying it. Trying to figure out if it is worth it
>>
>>156982230
You still here? Will you upload the other flags that didnt made it the cathalog one day?
>>
What happened to Hitlermod, unhpm, the steam and discord groups?
Is /gsg/ finaly a boring wasteland?
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>>156989942
Still here laddyboy (;
>>
>>156989247
Alright thats seems to have fixed it. Thanks
>>
I haven't been here in several months, has HPM fixed the events in USA that made yankeezation of the south impossible?
>>
>>156989942
>meme mods
And shitposting groups are doing daily raids
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>>156989095
>>156989405
Oh, I see. So it's supposed to be like that? Thanks, that's good to know. I thought I fucked up when creating it.
>>
>>156989132
I just reinstalled and tried a new country, saved and reloaded and there is still no green checkmark tool tip telling me Ironman mode is on
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>>156989371
kill all slavs bls
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>>156989371
what's your gov type
>>
>>156990115
So hitlermod was never released and unhpm gave up
Too bad
Is the new HPM worth downloading, looking at the changelog nothing big has been added since the last update
>>
>>156990367
Semi constitutional monarchy.

>>156990259
Can't genocide. :/
>>
quick question
windows 10 saves my screenshots as .bmp files which are heavy as fuck and I can't post them.
I can't even change the files, it just gives me an error.
How can I make windows create .jpg files instead of .bmp files?
>>
what should i try and do on ck2 lads
>>
Just got a crisis that allowed me to release Egypt. They were in my sphere and immediately petitioned for annexation. Going to release it though as I have no use for this meme land.
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>>156990951
Just kill yourself, it will be easier for you.
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>>156990951
Use fraps
Convert them using paint or mass convert them using format factory
There moslikely is a wqy to change that somewhere in the registry but its just easier to save the image via paint in another format
Renaming it wont do shit
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>>156990628
>Austian formed Germany
>not an absolute monarchy

what the fuck are you doing?
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>>156990954
Settle down as the Merchant Republic of Israel as Khazar Nomads, make mad dosh with Mediterranean trade and raiding muslim Silk Road posts.
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>>156989371
>blobbing into slavland
>not uniting all ayran people under on banner
You doing it wrong mate
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>>156990954
Unify Scandinavia under Ragnar, reform the norse religion, eliminate christians and sacrifice pope to Odin.
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>>156990996
Forgot pic
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>>156991148
It was either that or gommunism, HPM beefs militancy to insane levels.

>>156991303
In an ideal world I'd simply gas them all.
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>>156991537
>not killing all the traitors to the Heiliges Reich
>>
Any events or decisions that let me annex Bolivia as the United Provinces in HPM?
>>
>>156991384
>Swedish Sudan
Sweden Yes
>>
>>156990954
Reform the Roman Empire as Jewish Cuman nomads
>>
>>156991809
Just kidding i'm retarded. I got cores all over Bolivia
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>>156990951
Why don't you just paste into paint and save as a jpg like everybody else has been doing for 20 years?
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>>156991717
I tried, laddo. cost me all my men.
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Fucking finally.

Yerushalayim is reclaimed, need a bit more to form Yisra'el though.

Over 30k jews died in the war to reclaim the holy land, and thousands of Lombard, Bavarian and Francian goyim too.
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This flag is really nice.
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>>156992258
>2
wtf are you doing
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>>156991384
>Swedish Sudan
AYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>156992039
>not throwing the corpses of canon-fodder slavs against revolutionaires

YOU ARE NO HABSBURG
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>>156992521
I FUCKING DID THAT LAD, THE SLAV INFANTRY REVOLTED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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How do I form Germany?
>>
>>156992748
play prussia
>>
>>156992039
what are the conditions for this event it never seems to fire in my games
>>
>>156992771
I'm already playing. What do I do next? I want to form Großdeutschland
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>>156992669
>not then using the traitorous Hungarians to kill the disgusting slavs and revolutionaires

I WANT KEK HOHENZOLLERNS OUT OF MY AUSTRIA
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Can someone help me with ironman in EU4? I heard there's a way that you can savescum even in ironman local, but I don't know how.
Anyone?
>>
>>156992873
Have far too much infamy.

>>156992973
I WASN'T GOING TO COMPROMISE WITH THE QUASI-SLAVIC MAGYARS OUT OF CONVENIENCE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Haven't played /gsg/ games in over a year, where were you supposed to open the mod files in documents or in steamapps?
>>
>>156993249
Seems like you've opened the wrong tab. This isn't /r/paradoxplaza
>>
>>156993034
????

For what purpose
>>
>>156993249
fuck nvm I got it
>>
>>156993356
Wow good post!
>>
>>156993593
>wow
>!
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>
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>>156993139
LOOK AT THIS
IT'S YOUR FAULT
YOU MADE FRANKIE CRY
NOT EVEN RUDOLF WAS AS BAD AS THAT
>>
>>156993593
> >>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>
If you've got under 1k hours in any paradox game you're more reddit than reddit itself, so you can't complain about reddit ITT
>>
>>156994135
t. Reddit
>>
>>156994345
t. casual shitter
>>
>>156993363
So I don't get screwed over when I try risky stuff. I want some achievements, and it's easier if you can save/reload on ironman.
>>
>>156990010
When will you release it lad? I don't care if it's not complete it looked really cool, and had a nice concept. I know you probably got tired of people asking about your mod and probably abandoned it, but pls could we see the code.
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>>156992931
>spiel Preußen
>bring alle Länder mit Norddeutscher Kultur in deinem Einflussbereich
>Befreie Holstein
>Gründe den Norddeutschen Bund
>Bring Östereich unter deinem Einfluss indem du es so lange besetzt bis sie keine Großmacht mehr sind
>Bringe alle anderen deutschen länder unter deinem Einfluss
>Befreie Elsass Lothringen von Frankreich
>Befreie Luxemburg
>Klick Gründe Deutsches Reich
EBIIIINNNNNNNNNN
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Finally Größe belenux has been restored to its PROPER clay
>>
>>156995280
see >>156987707
>>
>>156995280
>doesn't own ne
>doesn't own lux
>>
>>156995762
T.Frog
>>
Buying Stellaris was a mistake
Back to Liquoria I go
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Should I genocide Hungarian mongols from my pax romana?
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>>156995280
epic french borders you have there bud
>>
>>156996526
Just genocide non-Christians
>>
>>156996979
C*tholics are not Christians
They are neo-pagans
>>
>>156997064
>>156996526
you can't genocide in vanilla
>>
>>156997170
I'm not >>156996526
I'm just making sure that anon knows that C*thol and his followers are pagans
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We did it
>>
All the claimants of the regions in CK II i'm trying to get into my kingdom are women or not willing to come to my court.

What do.
>>
>>156998863
>>156998756
>>156997769
>>156997427
Last poll before First round voting on Tuesday... Make it count lads!

http://poal.me/alv1z8
http://poal.me/alv1z8
http://poal.me/alv1z8
http://poal.me/alv1z8
>>
>>156998863
Why couldn't the chinks make a better romanization system?
>>
>>156997769
Won't that begin the end of the world?
>>
>>156999223
Reminder that the Anarchists are the whitest and basedest of all.
>>
>>156999223
What does liberal mean here?
>>
Do I want to play France or Russia? Or the Qing empire
>>
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>>156999223
Hmmmmm
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>>156999223
>>156999392
>>156999429
>>156999545
nip
>>
>>156999508
Play as russia, conquer eurasia
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>>156999508
Form Qing and culturally replace all of China proper with Manchus
>>
>>156999508
Russia desu
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Where the h*ck is Ethiopia
>>
>>156999429
found it :
Liberals (pro HPM, pro R&I, anti steamgroup/discord)
Socialists (pro HPM, pro R&I, pro reddit)
Conservatives (pro HPM, pro status quo,slightly anti-R&I)
Radicals (pro Discord ,anti R&I)
Reactionaries (pro Radical Yugoslavia, anti-infotopic)
Anarchists (Anti HPM, Anti R&I, Anti Steamgroupe/Discord, Anti Reddit)
>>
>>157000003
Better finish high school before you start playing these games.
>>
>>157000072
Conservatives are renamed nationalists
>>
>>157000217
That doesn't make much sense. /gsg/ isn't a fucking nation
>>
>>157000110
t. HIP
It being named Gonder instead of Abyssinia or Ethiopia is retarded.
>>
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What is the best character you've ever played in Crusader Kings 2, lads?
>>
>>157000302
You are the only retarded thing here m8
>>
>>157000269
It's a meme from last month, some guy wanted to organise some elections in gsg, those were the proposed political parties.
>>
>>157000710
>>157000546

Wow are you really this autistic?
>>
>>157000546
Yeah I was there when he first made the election post but the word nationalist just doesn't apply here.
>>157000710
What happens if the anarchists get elected and have a seat in the senate? What constitution are we operating under? Is it legal to make some laws that would make leftist life illegal?
>>
>>157000840
t. Victoria mad because of a lack of votes
>>
>>157000840
>on /gsg/
>ask people if they are autistic
Lad, people dont end up here by accident.
>>
>>156999429
>what does liberal mean here
White and Based.
>>
>>157001067
So the old meaning of liberal then? Modern liberals aren't White OR Based
>>
When learning how to play, is it recommended to play on easy/hard? Or should I practice with Normal?
>>
>>157001198
What does old or modern liberalism have to do with anything? For the definition of the liberalism we're talking about see >>157000710
>>
>>157000470
He's right, though. """"Gonder"""" was Ethiopia.
>>
>>156990215
anyone?
>>
>>157001349
Just play normal, all the time. Accomplishments on easy aren't really accomplishments and hard just gives the AI retarded bonuses and the player retarded maluses. The only exception might be HOI3 as a major power because once you know how to play HOI3 it's extremely easy to win every time, playing on hard adds a little challenge.
>>
I'm forming my anti-democracy militia right now. If I see you fuckers organizing a senate here it will be over within a few hours.
>>
>>157001617
t.anarchist
>>157001552
based cobrah
>>
>>157001552
>2k16
>wanting to support anyone but yourself
That's why Anarchists are largely superior to those "Reactionnaries".
>>
Can anyone send me the 3.03 patch for V2 that was on the archive before?
>>
>>157001765
Posting against my preferred party violates NAP; I suggest you take cover before the scud missile I've just launched obliterates your home.
>>
>>157001765
Join the militia. We must destroy democracy in its embryo stage before it gets too late.
>>
>>157002014
also the Big Flag Frames mod for 3.03 please.
>>
>>157002014
>the V2
Fixed that one for you. You don't have to use proper grammar within a meme.
>>
New Thread
>>157002112
>>157002112
>>157002112
>>157002112
>>
>>157002062
>>157002102
Any establish structure is apt to be corrupted. The Anarchy would finally free /gsg/ from the shackles that held it down for years.
>>
>>157002014
Learn 2 pirate
>>
>>157002298
The militia is a decentralized group of sleeper agents and soldiers who will be operating autonomously.
>>
>>157002014
You can't search for a torrent?
>>
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>>156987086
>destroying europe as a hun
>>
>>157001497
Yeah but HPM has it dynamic who unites Ethiopia
>>
>>157004053
Then why should he "finish high school?" He's 100% right.
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Shewa and Tigray are colluding niggers who keep attacking me at the same time in two different wars
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Do I swap over to Britain or do I keep playing as Canada?
>>
>tfw don't even like ck2 just playing it because it's the closest i'll have to a family
>>
>>157009327
That's sad. I can be your friend if you want
>>
>>157008639
Maintain the occupation.

Hoist high the glorious Leaf of Progress!
>>
>>157010741
>a fucking leaf
>>
>>157009395

you won't be my family though

that is what i crave and i don't even know why
>>
So I've been puttering along in my Großamalfi game and it's going nicely: I'm now independent and own Krete, Cyprus, Lesbos, Malta, Sicily, half of Corsica, and a province in Acheia. I also took Tunis and Tripolitania and gave them to the Knights Hospitaler. The game has basically been on autopilot waiting for claims, which has given me some time to take a look beyond my immediate surroundings.

Holy shit, I wish I hadnt:
>Jewish Khazaria and Bolgharia hold almost everything east of Poland, as well as Sweden and Norway
>Jewish Kingdom of Rügen holding onto chunks of land in East Germany and Bohemia
>Occitania is Muslim but white
>Lotharingia, Burgundy, and France constantly eating eachother and shitting themselves back out
>Duchy of Flanders the only other real Catholic independent state in Western europe
But worst of all
>norse Emperor of Brittania controls all of the isles except a strip of Scotland, the west and north coast of Scandinavia, most of the Baltics, most of Poland, all of Denmark, northern germany, Brittany, and the coast south until Bordeaux.
>reformed the Germanic faith

This was supposed to be a megacampaign, Jesus fucking christ
>>
>>157011223
Some friends can be a lot better than some family members so you should reconsider
>>
new discord.. https://discord.gg/qaDJDNx
>>
What's the best way for me to expand in CK II.

I'm autistic so I try my damnest to keep each vassal in their own de jure borders, so if I want to fight for a courtier's claim and keep them as my vassal I need to give them a holding, but I don't want to since it would ruin the de jure borders.

What do.
>>
fuck
>>
russia
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Why is this general so snobby and rude now? I've only been gone for fucking 2 months.
>>
>>157019514
I've started my brainwashing operation here
>>
I've never seen /gsg/ this dead before

Please post memes to revive
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>>157025894
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>>157026107
Dank
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>>157026504
this is a good one too
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