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>Star Citizen information:
http://pastebin.com/NhBwT5Zk
Gamescom info:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15451-Gamescom-2016-Details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucYhhLwIxg

Citizencon countdown:
>http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?p0=137&iso=20161009T15&msg=CitizenCon%20%2716
>subscriber jewry brought to you free
http://www.mediafire.com/file/x2hvowlbweto5wd/Star+Citizen+Jump+Point.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6zdp6frd6522ue8/Subscribers+Vault.rar
>2.6 when?
PTU "Never" rumours persist of cancellation in 90 days
Latest ATV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Jk-mQ9_pw
Referral code randomizer:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WNKNAuruiI1p5XGPjtVi_uwi8wPmuEYawOKQuhRXfdw/edit#gid=953337098
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>Other games:
http://pastebin.com/cugkem8w
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>Elite: Dangerous information:
http://pastebin.com/ZT9GWmaC

>Gamescom info
https://community.elitedangerous.com/eventseason16
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/bilderstrecke/bilderstrecke_3298445.html?back=3298273
http://www.gamestar.hu/gamescom/elite-dangerous-horizons-2-2-guardians-update-gamescom-2016-frissites-ujdonsagok-215519.html
>Latest videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/FrontierDevelopments/videos
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derp previous thread: >>156525576
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>>156769908
Also this is thread #65
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Carrack and Freelancer are not the best ships.
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4th for more shipfu art.
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>>156770060
Correct. Best ship coming through. TWO DAYS TO POLARIS and constant polaris related thread spam and/or worship
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>>156770160
Delete this
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>>156770201
hey, your kind aren't welcome here
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Why does this shit look like it's straight out of Heavy Rain?

am I going to have to press X to AYY LMAO?
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>>156770145
Does anyone remember if it's George Hull or Ryan Church that they're were trying to get to concept the Polaris?
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>>156770564
>namefag
>tripfag
>goon
you're right, there is nothing to like about that guy
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Copypasting a topic

How well the community get along with the idea of "role focused spaceship" ?

Ship like the Crucible are obvious, nobody will argue against a support ship. But does every "combat ship" have to be (player speaking) mowing cheaper ship ?

> Rambling,
Myself when I look at the retaliator I don't expect to dogfight and kill fighters, but to be instrumental in bringing down big ship with HUGE TORPEDO and too tough/stealthy to kill alone.
Clan should be used to focus-ship, so why putting two players in a ship and not killing 200% better look like a problem ? (looking at you Gladiator turret)
Yet, some seem to bitch if a ship don't double as bomber and fighter. (critic that just buffing the shield would still make it shittier than a fighter/bomber)

It is just because they already bought it and want it to fit their expectat..."price" ?
It's sad but I prefer a balanced ship than a ship made "as strong as its pledge cost".
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>>156770861
it looks dumb enough to be a ship in star citizen
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>>156770909
It's a Rock, Paper, Scissors mechanic.

For example, the Polaris mows down fighers and it's counter is Bombers and Warships larger than it.

The Retaliator is a moot point since it's most likely going to have armor values eventually as well as larger turrets that actually work and are rebalanced.
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>>156770909
>so why putting two players in a ship and not killing 200% better look like a problem ?
does anyone ever even go so far as to do more want like?
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>>156769876
>Not linking the proper Mega folder with both JP and Subscriber's Vault

Shamefur dispray

https://mega.nz#F!3tpUlapR!knV_JazwxfM-xct6PJyPEw
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>>156772308
fugg I didn't know about this, shit that's handy.
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>>156772308
>these crazy-ass old caterpillar plans
what are the odds any of this wild shit survived to final build?
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>>156772718
None. Currrent caterpillar doors open in the middle then drop down like the elevator on the back of a truck
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>>156770060
no! They are!
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>>156772796
I really just want those floor plated to be a thing.
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will the stream today and tomorrow have anything interesting or just shilling spaceships?
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>>156773117
just streaming 2.5 and autism.
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>>156773216
>2.5
but why? so 3.0 was a meme and scripted?
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how do I change my clothes? I see people shirtless in a jacket, or shirt and no jacket, or butt naked. I bought a shirt and it's covered by my jacket that I can't figure out how to take off.
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>>156773425
because they're not doing reveals until sunday.
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>>156773553
>its sunday
>"guys our big reveal is that we rused you, 3.0 was a meme and we need more money, now buy the polaris.jpg for ONLY 750 Tenge, unlimited supply!"
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>>156773502
Right now you need to go to the store to unequip because item 2.0 brings inventory management.
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>>156772308
well look at that, at some point they actually took the crossbow back a step or two from full retard
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>>156773884
>vertical crossbow
>normal scope
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>revolver crossbow
it's so stupid I actually like it.
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and finally they 'progressed' to something normal, modern and sensible looking that they could have found in a Cabela's catalog in the first place. or perhaps these are in reverse order?
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WHEN

I WISH TO SPACE JIHAD
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>>156774494
>tfw you will never hurl low-yield nuclear warheads at your enemy in Star Citizen
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>>156774618
nukes are so 22nd century. portable god rods are where it's at
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>>156773985
>Vertical bow
>Spacemagic scope
ftfy
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>>156774771
Oh please, all you do is shoot an over-sized nail at the enemy. I want to see them blasted to bits and their children be sterilized by the nuclear fallout.
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>Derek tweeted that CIG is 125 million in the red
Really makes you think
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>>156772184
I agree with your take on the Polaris
I just ask the question because some players fully expect the retaliator to be balanced precisely to one up several fighter/bomber at any use. It's like they don't value that mechanics at all

> It's a Rock, Paper, Scissors mechanic.
...where some player expect Scissor to be just as good against Rock and criticize Paper for not being fitted to fight Paper.
That's madness and I'm curious to find the root of it.

>>156771039
> does anyone ever even go so far as to do more want like?
I'm really downplaying the critic against the Gladiator, a bunch of player simply want the turret linked to the pilot and shit on the empty space behind to justify their entitlement.
Listening to them I wonder if we would even have multi-crew fighter.

Of course I don't understand their logic either, when you have gun with different range (and no autolock) I think it would be a blessing to be able to aim both with 100% accuracy.
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Any advice on drawing out skimmers from a Medium Security zone without getting shwacked by the patrolling Corvettes and Vipers?
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>>156775217
>multi-crew fighter.
why? just why?
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>>156775217
Edison Trent, fuck off back to RSI.
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>>156775045
He's already on CIG's radar, his days are numbered
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could you please stop mentioning derek shart every third post?
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>>156775759
Ideally, it would be so you could have one person flying and the other handling the guns for precise targeting, or doing some other task like scanning, ewar or some sort of player guided missile thing.

But a manned turret on a fighter is just retarded. Especially when its pissant s1 guns.
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>>156775759
> Why ?
Why not ? It's been a thing even after the cold war and there's enough game mechanic to justify it a dozen time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30

I swear, gamer have been rotten by 30 years of simplistic shooter... no imagination at all

Anyway, BEST SHIP !
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>>156774494
>>156774771
is this the same as the size 2 ship gun? if this shit has the same stats then have fun 1 shotting peoples ships from 6.8km
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>>156777283
>Best ship.
That's a funny way to say "gimmicky death trap you can't even leave climb out of"
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>>156777501
is there an equivalent apocalypse arms/railgun ship weapon? I haven't kept up if they've rolled any new guns out. we haven't seen anything of stats or intended role for the not-stinger there anyway, so I have no idea.
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>>156774494
Is this shoulder mounted? I wish to add more guns to the dropship.
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>>156777802
it is
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>>156770861
Looks like a Battlestar. I like it!
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>>156777832
Without knowing any better, rear ramp and maglock boots along with friends make instant turret!

Sounds fun and dumb. Also sounds like eva to a large ship drop off some asshats and let them shoot it up from up close.
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>>156770861
this ship needs like 20 crew members to operate
by CIG's doctrine
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>>156777283
>BEST SHIP

I'll agree on "good ship" once you'll be able to switch orientations midflight, not just auto-switch when landing/taking off.

Any way, actual BEST SHIP!
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>>156777513
> dying
> letting that happen
Do you even Boba Fett ?

>>156778283
I'll concede your point once we have reached a mutual agreement on the specific context, loadout and usage of these ships.

game out, everybody bought Argo, everybody need Argo, making it more important than any other other ship
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>>156779139
Argo is for NPC loaders silly
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How can they be this retarded?
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>>156781214
Well you see when the game is out 3 years from now they will claim to have been merely pretending to be retarded every day for months on end.
This will render your criticism void.
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>>156781214
Echochamber of shitters. He's not one of the Goons in on the joke, he is the joke.
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>>156779139
unloaded Argo does look good, I'll give you that

Can we agree that Anvil is best manufacturer?
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>>156781446
Who in their right mind would pay $10 to join a forum? If the point of the paywall is to isolate their community from the undesirables of the internet, clearly that point is lost on them. I know $10 isn't much, but they give money to someone offering a service that is free practically everywhere else, develop a groupthink, and they call us cultists?
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>>156782620
>they call us cultists?
They call you a cultist, not me.

RSI shills and fanboys. You know, the people who send death threats to people speaking out or writing articles on Star Citizen that don't blindly praise it. The people who start spamming these threads with LoD screenshots.

They have a problem with cultists. You're not a cultist are you?
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>>156782474
> Can we agree that Anvil is best manufacturer?
Sorry we cannot agree on that, our love for spaceship is too great to limit to only one
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>>156782768
>LoD

I wish people would shut up about that, it doesn't even help their argument

>Starcraft sucks
>Hah well look at this shit steam greenlight RTS, checkmate
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>>156783007
>I wish people would shut up about that
Me too.

>he can't criticize Star Citizen because he made a game that sucks

It's a logical fallacy.
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>>156782891
>German simulator game-tier ship
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>>156782474
>Can we agree that Drake is best manufacturer?
yes we can
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>>156783180
at the very least he should probably stop comparing his shit game to SC and claiming it's better in any way, that just smacks of pure fucking delusion and makes everything else he says seem ridiculous, as it's coming from a verified madman.
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If Drake is so good how come the caterpillar and cutlass?
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>>156783180
>It's a logical fallacy

No it's called hypocrisy
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>>156782768
>You know, the people who send death threats to people speaking out or writing articles on Star Citizen that don't blindly praise it.

To which they respond by blindly praising anything Derek Smart says and by finding porn of Sandi.

Yeah, Goons are totally better than cultists
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>>156783450
>he should probably stop comparing his shit game to SC and claiming it's better in any way
Well in all fairness there's way more content in LoD.

There's only like 5-10 people working on the game so it's nowhere near as polished, and the only marketing the game gets is DS's twitter shitposting, and a bunch of death threats from the cultist community ensures it won't have a decent player base.

>>156783521
>No it's called hypocrisy
It's a logical fallacy. Just like "Stop replying to him he's a shitposter" that cultists throw around in here. No matter how well-reasoned an argument may be, if a cultist doesn't like it, it will trigger him and he'll try to convince other people not to get involved. You can tell they are plebbitors without the power of downvote to hide your opinion in to oblivion.
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>>156783607
>they respond by blindly praising anything Derek Smart says
Lol'd IRL. What? Who praises anything DS says? Please find 3 examples and include screenshots or URLs.
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I can't believe someone's actually shilling Smart and LoD in this general.

Must be some sort of reverse shill, no one could actually be this retarded.
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>>156783607
>blindly praising anything Derek Smart says
>>156783808
>actually shilling Smart and LoD
See >>156782768

Don't forget to spam LoD screenshots.
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>>156783710
>and a bunch of death threats from the cultist community ensures it won't have a decent player base

See this is how you can tell the anon isn't being serious and is attempting to bait other posters in this general he believes are easily triggered.

This has been your regularly scheduled PSA on how to spot poorly crafted. You are all welcome.
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>>156782768
You're incredibly misinformed if you think they only call those types of people cultists. More like anyone who likes this game that doesn't appeal to their reasoning, even if they provide logical arguments and aren't resorting to ad hominem.

Cultist is a word that is overused as much as goon. Not everyone who likes SC is a cultist, and not everyone who dislikes it is a goon. True cultists are as guilty of it as true goons, but that still doesn't excuse either side's immaturity. SA is definitely a community of actual goons that think as a hivemind. Not that many people here are true cultists.
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>>156783710
>and a bunch of death threats from the cultist community ensures it won't have a decent player base.

I've got a surplus of (You)s right now, might as well gift some. Enjoy it anon.
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The best way I know to stop talking about something is to to actually stop answering people talking about it.

Being polite don't mean you don't have better thing to do.
Like discussing if there was any news about subsystem minigame
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>>156783710
>there's way more content in LoD.
cultist detected, you're gonna have to back that one up champ because I've seen many attempts at reviewing the game and if there's content to be seen none of them managed to find it, they all ended up in the same hallway simulation tour and broken planetside 2 mini edition map. Star Citizen right now has more than one space station and both ship and FPS pvp, on top of actual pve content with AI. LoD cannot say the same.
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>LoD has more content
>if you don't agree you're cultist trying to censor me
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>>156783947
>See this is how you can tell the anon isn't being serious
Well just in case you are serious, I will ask you. Don't you think that the million or so Star Citizen users have anything to do with negative reviews and warning people to stay away?

Just when metacritic was first linked on /v/, suddenly it wasn't real users leaving reviews for games, millions of /v/ users descended on anything they didn't like, regardless of having 0 play time and leaving negative reviews.

It seems like DS resorted to banning anyone involved in negative "review bombing". It started to happen roughly when he started blogging about Star Citizen.

>buy LoD
>play 5 minutes
>leave bad review
>get refund

Hmm, I don't think ANYONE would do that, right?

Not defending the game, I'll never play it. Just saying, DS's outspoken blogs have pretty much disturbed the hivemind cultists and his game won't ever be big.
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>>156783947
japanese cartoons are poorly crafted
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I'm wanting to purchase another ship because my Aurora feels like a piece of crap after having tested some better stuff, and my doubt is between any of the 300 series or an Avenger.

In the specs it says that both have the same cargo (4 spaces whatever unit that is) but the Avenger seems it will be able to pack better weapons, even if the 300 series is faster.

I've already flown both and I enjoyed them, so, any advice on this matter?
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>>156784225
I'm totally triggered now. I'm so mad.

Enjoy
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>>156784220
you can't honestly believe anyone thinks LoD is a good game right

if anything SC gave it a few players. the only guy I know who's actually played it, I think he got it on a free weekend, had only heard of it because of SC. he said the game was shit, and I believe him because I've seen the footage. it barely qualifies as a game in a non meme sense
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>>156784220
>It started to happen roughly when he started blogging about Star Citizen.

No. LoD was shit and had reviews long before Star Citizen was even crowdfunded.

So unless some kind of time travel was involved nothing you say is accurate.
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>>156784276
300 series is in development hell and probably won't be able to carry any cargo even when 3.0 comes out because of it's full retard design. Avenger has a better bed, better cargo setup and better cockpit. just sayin.
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>>156784220
>It started to happen roughly when he started blogging about Star Citizen.
Except the "accidental" free weekend of LOD on steam that brought in massive amounts of negative reviews happened before he started his personal crusade against SC.
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>>156784095
>Not everyone who likes SC is a cultist, and not everyone who dislikes it is a goon
This is what I argue regularly, and I get a handful of cultists tell everyone that it's bait and that I'm a shitposter and to ignore me. Such is life.

>>156784136
>you're gonna have to back that one up
Look at the videos of LoD that get posted. There's way more to do than in Star Citizen.

Currently we have the ability to fight NPCs in a survival mode, fly in an empty sandbox, or spawn in a griefer-filled single system sandbox with a handful of missions. If we had Star Marine, and a bunch of promised features, you'd have a point, and I wouldn't have said LoD had more content. But currently I'm afraid there's hardly anything to do in SC.

>>156784381
>you can't honestly believe anyone thinks LoD is a good game right
I wouldn't argue that. The game looks pretty bugged and dated. I'm just saying that LoD would have a much bigger chance of having a decent player base if it was made by someone who hadn't blogged about Star Citizen being a scam.
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>>156784220
https://youtu.be/au6mMl5A79Q?t=758

Fast forward to 12:40 and you will see your argument rendered null and void.
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>>156784550
LoD would have a much bigger chance of having a decent player base if it wasn't a buggy piece of shiat with decade old graphics and gameplay coded by manbaby who claims the bugs are caused by German video drivers.

I don't know why I'm replying, I really shouldn't
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>>156784550
>Currently we have the ability to fight NPCs in a survival mode, fly in an empty sandbox, or spawn in a griefer-filled single system sandbox with a handful of missions.
none of which you can do in LoD. I'll gloss over you crying about griefers like a fag and point out there is no NPCs in LoD, just T posed models that don't do anything. Also you left out the five matchmaking modes that are at least half of SC's current feature set.
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>SC has AC deathmatch, VS and racing
>SC has PU with missions and PvP both in ships or on foot
>still claim it has less content than LoD
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>>156784550
>griefer
kill yourself
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>>156784510

I guess then I'll wait a little more before spending my hard earned money on virtual goods that are not yet finished.
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>>156784550
>or spawn in a griefer-filled single system sandbox

ED's dads are now defending Derek Smart.

Strange bedfellows indeed.
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>inb4 I was just pretending to be retarded to expose the cultists in the general
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>>156784695
>your argument rendered null and void
No. Those people ALSO left bad reviews. That doesn't mean cultists didn't do it and get refunds too.

>>156784762
>Star Citizen would have a much bigger chance of having a decent player base if it wasn't a buggy piece of shiat
See how it works? A game being bugged during development is normal, and as such it shouldn't be part of your argument.

Also I'm not sure that DS actually makes his game, he has a small team that works on it. So essentially when you review his game negatively you're criticizing his employees, not him. That's the only downside I think.

>>156784789
>Also you left out the five matchmaking modes
Where you can... fly in an empty sandbox, or with griefers or fight NPCs? I admit I forgot about racing, but then again who cares about it when it's shit?

>>156784850
I already included griefers inside a single system sandbox.

LoD has more content. I'm not saying LoD is a better game, this is very important. It seems like you think I'm shilling for LoD and saying it's better. I'm not. I'm talking about levels of content.
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>>156785170
>LoD has more content

Describe this content. Be precise.
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>>156785179
>tables fold down into the floor so they can become coated in dirt by people walking on it
this is my favourite fucking RSI meme
even more than winglets and poor turrent placement
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>>156785179
>Billiards
Because heavy balls are exactly what I want flying around if the gravity goes down.
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>>156785179
There're twelve seats in just the right side of the room. Way too big for a ship smaller and with less crew than Idris. When will CIG stop wasting space?
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>>156785283
Yes, I am aware that this has given the cultists the opportunity to dismiss the content in LoD because of a screenshot from the official website, and that I didn't take the time to go and read patch notes and type out every single thing currently in the game.

Well go ahead, honestly I'm used to it.

Racing
Looking at your ship in a hangar
NPC survival mode
Small arena PVP
A single system with a handful of missions, griefers and no deterrence.
A shopping mall with exploding greycats

>2 maps in Arena Commander
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>>156785170
>No. Those people ALSO left bad reviews. That doesn't mean cultists didn't do it and get refunds too.

You're as delusional as Derek. The facts are shoved in your face, and you still fail to see them. The point I'm trying to make is while SOME of those more recent reviews may be from "cultists" or people who dislike Derek, most of them are from unknowing, unbiased people who played during that free weekend. They saw it on the front page, and decided to try it without knowing anything. This was before Steam refunds existed.

>Game is undeniably a piece of shit. Even in alpha one can see there is no chance that it will ever be a good game.
>Has a free weekend.
>Months before the whole SC debacle, people try it out and surprise, they leave negative reviews because it is shit.
>Derek cries blaming Shitizens.

I wouldn't be surprised if you're actually Derek. Fuck off.
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I dont want to join your autistic chicken fight about derek shart and LOD but calling LoD a game in 2016 is an insult.

>>156785642
>When will CIG stop wasting space?
agree. REEE
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>>156785721
You're dodging. Explain in your words things you can do in LoD right now.
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>>156785916
>calling LoD a game
Interesting, since Star Citizen gets called a game and hardly has ANY content, but plenty of cash shop items in development...
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>>156785170
>griefers in a free for all deathmatch
I'm going to excuse the stupidity you've shown up until this point, you obviously aren't someone who plays videogames at all.
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>>156785721
>exploding greycats
No longer drivable or explode. This proves that your current knowledge of the game is lacking.

>griefers
Fuck off.
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>>156785997
>FFA deathmatch
>Crusader
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>>156785992
Those are his words. This is obviously Derek we're talking to.
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>>156785179
more ships need nice picture windows in the casual areas
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>>156786124
I was referring to his response to me about the matchmaking modes specifically. I don't think I've ever seen a griefer in those modes, and in most of them it isn't realistically even possible.
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>>156786112
>No longer drivable or explode
2 things removed in a game that you're trying to defend as having more content than a game which is further along in beta.

This is stupid. Stop. Just accept your alpha game has hardly any content and we can move on.

>go to Arc Corp
>can no longer drive grey cat or blow them up

So the social module got less fun? Haven't been to Arc Corp in months.
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>02 d 04 h 16 m 40 s
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>>156785179
pool mini games confirmed lads
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I hope you've all learned an important lesson about responding to bait
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>>156787610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHAXsJHPuw
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>>156787610
>>156787992
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twitch /starcitizen

2 hours
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>>156788161
What's in 2 hours?
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>>156788212
Day 1 citizencon streams, probably avocado build or something new, I don't know.
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>>156788264
All the good shit is sunday tho
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>>156788161
yeah what specifically is getting streamed? just regular twitchfaggotry?
>>156788264
oh. if it's something new that'd be alright, but if it's just 2.5 I am fucking stream sniping some niggers
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>>156786725
It's not the example that matters, you fucking pillock. It shows you're only talking out of your ass because you have no idea about the current state of the game.

SC doesn't have much content compared to a finished game. But LoD is much worse in that regard. You know what else SC has that LoD doesn't? Emergent gameplay, the main reason why people are still playing the alpha. You need to accept that or drink bleach if you are so incessant about escaping reality.
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>>156788264
>Day 1 citizencon streams

Oh nevermind then

Is there some place /scg/ folk hang out at to watch Citcons?
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>>156787610
I wish at least they forced him to answer his own bait...
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>>156788424
Would be swell if we could get a discord channel going.
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>>156788493
we have one tho
in fact I think there's two
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>>156788545
Link?
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>>156788424
yes, we call it /scg/
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>>156788623
https://discord.gg/2wnGJ
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>>156788682
Eh, I guess.
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>>156787610
There's a possibility any bait post might not be bait, so I treat every one as if it were legit. Can't be too careful, don't want any slipping through the cracks. The bait poster gets his (you)s and I get the peace of mind that I have corrected all logical fallicies purported by delusional goons. A win-win.
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>>156788771
Stupid goldfish, go back to eating krabby patties or whatever it is you do.
>>
I wonder if they planned to be able to turn the Starfarer into miner.

Everybody is already wondering if it could carry tank, spaceship and all... so why not also be a mining ship ?

The Orion is like 2 time bigger so it would make a medium-size mining ship.
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Talking of the Orion mining ship, if you can't use it's main mining-laser as an improvised superweapon, I will be sad until they inevitably do due to popular demand
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This general is pretty much only star citizen.
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>>156790040
Yep, but we /edg/uys lurk here and play both games. Ask away and we can help but 2.2 is basically jus JUST
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>>156789773
>Orion
>Too slow and cumbersome to catch a target let alone being able to use it's mining laser as a weapon
>Suddenly swarm of small and fast ships with disruptor weapons
>890 jump completely immobilised
>Passengers can't do anything as the lumberimg behemoth that is their end moves into position
>Laser rips straight through the hull
>People are sucked out of the breach by decompression
>Send eva crew in to loot personal belongings and other valuables

The least effective but most epic way of piracy.

>Switch orion with reclaimer for extra Rip and Tear and salvage value
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>>156790040
/edg/ hasn't talked at all. Isn't there a beta or something? I don't know why they're not discussing it.
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>>156789925
God, the Starfarer looks so ugly. Literally a football helmet stuck to a turtle shell.
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>>156790520
Damn you, I wasn't even thinking of false flag piracy but now I can't see anything else !

> Immobilize a cheap NPC fighter with EMP-weapon
> long enough to catch it with the Reclaimer
> reclaim it
> reclaim the pilot's soul
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>>156790916
> Kadeshi Swarm clan
When ?
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>muh power armor

https://youtu.be/cTLMjHrb_w4?t=216
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1 hour get hype

posting best weapon
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>>156791639
Hype for what? Some cringey e-celeb, Ben or Londo trying (and failing) to play 2.5?
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>>156791639
Pretty sure Citcon isn't in one hour
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>>156791639
1 Hour to S T A R M A R I N E S T R E A M
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>>156791785
>>156791785
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>>156792064
is there an actual schedule for the good shit?
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>>156792179
yeah, it's all happening Sunday.
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>>156792179
>For the good shit

I only know of the general schedule which was that pic. Don't know if there's anything more specific or what exactly you're lookin for
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15536-CitizenCon-2946-Details
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>>156791639
>hey guys
>it's been a fabulous year
>thank you all for coming
>we couldn't have done this without your support
>all the donations this year have just been so fabulous
>we really hope you enjoy citizencon
>of course we're excited to look forward
>last month we showed you a hint of 3.0
>this weekend we'll show you 3.0
>but not now
>at some point during the weekend
>stay tuned
>and watch our some streamers stream arena
>for today
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>>156792310
Steamers playing on the 7th and 8th, hour+ presentation on the 9th
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>>156792432
>7th and 8th

I thought something was supposed to happen on Saturday. That's disappointing
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https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/784455157706690561

2.5 confirmed

time for stream sniping
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>>156783607
>finding porn of Sandi.
???
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>>156794285
it doesn't even look like her, Smart has a real stalker thing for her and had so thoroughly convinced himself he had found some porn of her he decided to share it with the world
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>>156794285

You had to ask.
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!raffle getting a polaris today, Im feeling :^)
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>>156794794
Can we pretend I didn't? That's pretty awful.
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How do you get your referral code into the randomiser?
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Does anyone know if the sale on CitizenCon will also have the Rack for sale?
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>>156795504
There is no ship called "Rack" in the game
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>>156795504
THIS IS A CAR RACK

SAY IT PROPERLY OR FUCK OFF
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>>156794794
That's porn?

Where's the sex?
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>>156795504
I sure hope it will be!
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>>156795856

I guess you're right, Anon. Less like porn more like sexual assault.
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I was planning on Streaming some Elite.

Is it still against the rules to post my Twitch user name here? I was hoping not to have a dead chat and hang out with some /edg/ bros.

I could care less about follows. I just get bored easily when there's a dead chat.
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>>156796613
>Streaming some Elite.
time to move on
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>>156796849
It's still real to me, dammit!
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>>156796613
it's against the rules to post your twitch name? that's retarded.
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>>156796613
I would join but I have some paint that I need to watch dry
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>>156796613
Only if you stream with another person playing with you.

>that will stop an elite stream dead in its tracks
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>>156797363
Actually, that's not out of the question.

My girlfriend could wing up with me in an eagle.

>>156797335
It used to be considered advertisment. I don't know if that's changed.
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>>156797335
To prevent soliciting I'm assuming.
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>>156797319
why has it got 10k views? was it posted to goons?
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Fuck.... this stream is too cringey.
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what was the twitch extension he talked about? I didn't get the name.
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>>156797543
Post pics of your hot gf, anon.
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>>156797720
Wait for the 9th, this is day long stream
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>>156797826
Unless you wanna enter the raffles.
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>>156797543
Just giving you shit. Just spoiler it. Not like the mods arent faggots or show up. Worst thing might be us faggots calling you a faggot.
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>>156797873
Yep, staying for the raffles unfortunately D:
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>>156797943
I don't wanna be banned, though. Shit would suck since I'm not on any kind of changable IP.
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>>156798142
You got multiple monitors? Laptop? Toss it on one of those while you do something else. Mute it or turn volume low.
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/citizencon

Putting the CON in CitizenCon. BUY SUBSCRIPE REFER GET FISH TANKS. Jeez.

I was hoping for content not blather.
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hi goons
>You have been timed out for 600 seconds
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Did they say they are doing a giveaway at the top of every hour?
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>>156798619
That's because this is just a twitch stream of random gameplay of 2.5, come back on the 9th if you want content for the presentation
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So need to put the !raffle thing once every hour?
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>>156798619
Only saving grace is Lando's trollan.
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>>156798878
Yep, I've set up 30+ bots to enter once an a hour. Also make sure you put an avatar on your bot accounts or they don't accept them.
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>>156799112
>30+ bots t
kill yourself niggers
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>>156799112
how can i get myself a bot
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>>156799204
>how dare you lower my chances by 0.5%
wew lad

>>156799231
Google twitch giveaway bot or such and you'll figure it out
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I can't handle all this inane mindless drivel. He's just yapping about nothing, making stuff up and generally being boring.

I can't mute it because I'll miss the raffles.
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>>156799872
Mute it and click back and fourth, the overlay updates to the latest giveaway and they wait until after the event to message the winners
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Anyone wanna join un Vanduul Swarm?
Dying Star map
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>>156799998
>the overlay
What? I don't use Twitch much.

Also, is it worth setting up raffle bots?
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>>156800167
>not jumping in Crusader to spice up the stream with a few torpedoes
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>>156800179
See where it says "Current giveaway"? Bottom right/
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>>156800214
with my shitty Aurora?
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>>156800278
On the video screen it says "Discussion >" in a blue box. I don't see any other overlay. Unless it's because of adblock.

Just disabled to try, and it just showed an ad.
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>>156800735
What does it say just left of that, Anon?
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>>156800735
>>156800278
Let me help out
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>>156800781
>>156800809
Forgive me. I didn't see.

But the first giveaway closed at like 2 minutes past the hour, seconds after I entered, and a blue stream message came up in chat saying someone had won it.

I don't know how it works because they've said at least 3 times to enter, and I assumed that they've given away an Aurora each time, or if it's a case of just 1 ship that they keep telling people about.

I just know that someone has already won.
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>>156800985
And I don't know if entering twice disables your first entry or not. Why did this woman just tell people not to enter twice? It's stupid. Then again, what do I expect from CIG's community interaction?
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>/scg/ reveals themselves in their discord

https://discord.gg/vMrHxCE
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>>156801286

Someone call the cops, there's a stud on the loose
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>>156801658
>numale
>stud

kek
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>>156792419
yep you're absolutely right. 1 full hour so far of cringey e celebs talking while bumbling around a hangar. literally not doing shit. not even looking at the ship, talking about the game, ships, anything. talking about the hangar and how theyre OG founding backers.

i will be checking in on the hour for a chance at free shit tho.

theyre literally asking chat to spam emotes in chat, this is the stream

>!raffle
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What are all of you talking about? I thought Citcon was on Sunday.
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>>156802091
the actual reveals and talk about 2.6/3.0 is sunday. some of us got memed into thinking the 12 hours of stream today and tomorrow would be something of value instead of 4 SC streamers ackwardly talking and trying to figure out why the fuck theyre even there
>>
Cam1 guy sounds like Sean Murray
>>
What in fuck is this stream? 1 hour of looking at a fucking room and ramming a constellation with a golf buggy

!raffle
>>
Constellation is sexy af
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>>156802440
It's a !raffle
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Who is that qt with the tits
>>
>>156802827
Jared
>>
>Beardy flirting with the girl
>Keeps talking really nice to her
>"Capn_Flint here taught me how to juggle this morning"
holy fuck top kek
>>
!raffle
>>
!raffle
>>
mash that MF !raffle copypaste
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>>156798157
Post from a phone
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Sofie has bit titties and her arena commander shirt shows them so well, I wonder what they feel like if I would squeeze them
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>>156803869
Pics please
>>
My blacklist works pretty well.

!raffle wtfosaurus hype reggie wooo nice smexy {hi all} {hi everyone} {hey all} {hey everyone} {hi everybody} {hey everybody} {message deleted} !taffle raffel rafel iraffle irafle !raflle !rafle {i raffle} {! rafle} {! raffle}
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>>156803869
>>156804096
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>>156804170
>wtfosaurus hype reggie wooo nice smexy {hi all} {hi everyone} {hey all} {hey everyone} {hi everybody} {hey everybody} {message deleted}

What's the point of these?
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>>156804621
Because I don't want to see more chat spam than I have to.
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>>156804357
It clearly says Asuka on there, what are you trying to pull here?
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>>156804736
Sophie is anime in real life

I bet her big titties feel like thick custard in a balloon
>>
winning that raffle is impossible
>>
Why is this woman killing Vanduul in like 3 shots with 2 broadswords?

It takes like 10 seconds of concentrated fire in my superhornet with 6 energy repeaters.

Seems fair desu. I might have to switch to ballistics now and juggle ammo boxes and then run out of ammo in the middle of a fight.
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>>156800326
you have the alt+backspace time delay torpedo
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>>156804170
>not using {hi*} and {hey*}
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>>156806056
If that filters every word starting with hi then it's a stupid idea.
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>>156799112
>tfw won the aurora package with bot #23
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>>156804835
ur waifu=poop
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>>156805836
ballistic/mass drivers are infinitely better than energy weapons at the moment. ignoring shields and doing damage directly to the ship is a big deal as long as youre landing shots.

unless youre landing 100% of shots without stopping with energy weapons youre doing literally no damage, and half of those shots are going into defeating the shields.
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>>156801286
>looking like a tool unironically
>literally m'lady
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>>156806205
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>>156806304
I'm going to have to ease up on my OCD. Basically I like all energy repeaters, it's the same colour, same projectiles, etc. And they don't run out of ammo.

But I know there's going to be more weapons in the game so I'm going to have to sacrifice not looking stupid while firing different colour blobs of energy, for having meta damage.

I'm thinking of that size 5 gun on the top of the hornet, the one from the retalliator. Plus the size 4 wing guns and a single nose gun.
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>she knows how based APAR mass drivers are
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>>156806304

I was a fan of the ballistic weapons for a long time, but now I'm back on the laser repeaters. The projectile speed is just so fucking high that you can't miss.

Yes shields slow you down, but once you break through they pop pretty quickly.
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>>156806823
just keep in mind that this shit hasnt been taken to the balance table since it came into the game. energy weapons are still viable, you just need to maintain your DPS on target to do damage. once shields are down, youre do the same DPS, and energy weapons are better at removing shields.

it's just the fact that a couple bursts of a ballistic weapon, going directly thru shields for reduced damage tends to disable or destroy ships faster than equivalent energy weapons removing the shield, then doing the damage. it's really personal preference, ballistics are just guaranteed damage when landing hits, as opposed to the threat of disabled shields
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who won the previous giveaway?
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>>156807418
>going directly thru shields for reduced damage tends to disable or destroy ships faster
Yeah that's why I'm probably going to have to switch. I don't like ammo management.
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>>156806205
Now you can do an /scg/ giveaway
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>>156807418
>it's really personal preference

No it isn't.

Ballistics are objectively superior.
>>
benned from twitch chat for 5 minutes for saying ALLAHU ACKBAR when he was opening the box
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>>156807557
>>156806997

Tbh, I think it is pretty clear, that in the final PU, hybrid loadouts will be king, energy for shield cracking and unlimited sustain + some ballistics for kill shot punching.

Full ballistics will only be viable if you're near a resupply or are carrier-based.

Full energy will be viable but less dps potential.

Optimal loadout will depend on what you are doing and for how long.
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>>156808292
!raffle
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>>156808329
finding it hard to justify using energy weapons for lethal purposes tho, either use suckerpunches (or other non lethal EMP options when thats a thing) to remove shields/disable, or ballistics right to the dome for fast kills

unless they severely change how much shield actually matters against physical projectiles theres really no reason to use energy weapons if you want to kill things in a firefight that doesnt involve you firing 500 energy shots into something over 2 minutes
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can a man get through a shield?
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So the only girl of all of them is actually playing while the guys are just talking.

Gamiest gamer grill
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>>156809846
and
>>156806852
wife material
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>>156806852
But the mass drivers are shite.
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>be in space
>have a weapon range

toppest ok kek what a bullshit
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>>156810232
either you can't aim, havent used them, or both

1 shotting ships at twice the range their pips show up at is pretty good desu
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>>156810368
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Why did she just win a Scythe? Is it just her or can we all win one?
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>>156810915
Not even watching but if she just beat vanduul swarm it only gives you the ability to rent the glaive. Keep up.
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>>156810551
I know its a game thats why Im not complaining about sounds in space but this isnt just right
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>>156810915
nah she got it because she's a streamer who gives them free advertising

or they traded it for sexual favors that are being performed off camera as we speak
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Give us pics if she's qt ffs
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>>156811056
you silly there is no range, the targeting assist only track targets from a certain distance, but I've hit targets from further away.
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>>156811425
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I heard there was titties but all I see on stream is beardos
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>>156812043
Beardos talking about their pretty eyes then doing a conga line, in fact.
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>>156811974
sure faggot
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>>156811974
delta rockets and for that matter most missiles just detonate beyond a certain range. somewhat justifiable for failed trackers, absolutely not acceptable for dumbfires.
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>>156811974
no

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13LzkKzDOKIdrhwL5E2n2Co6THa74A2izxn8lykDuPAk/edit#gid=1241570521

column k = range.

faggot.
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>>156808329
unless they ever fix the targeting pips issue or design ttk around people only using half their guns at any one time, hybrid loadouts will never really catch on.

As nice as ballistics are; 4X panthers > 2X broadswords.
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I was inspired by this stream and so I tried Vanduul swarm again, got to wave 12 and died on the miniboss. Feels good, man. I'll try again tomorrow while I'm not watching the stream.
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>>156815640
if you're gunning for that glaive, I'm pretty sure you have to be a subscriber to be eligible for the rental thing
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>>156815021

>fix the targeting pips

They are looking into this. Would love to see it in 2.6 but realistically it will be 3.0 or after.
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>>156815771
You don't.

>>156815640
What the heck are you flying, friend
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>>156815021
>As nice as ballistics are; 4X panthers > 2X broadswords.

> 4 of a size 3 weapon is better than 2 of a size 3 weapon

stop the presses
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>>156815771

No you just have to beat wave 18 to unlock the rental. I don't think anyone can buy the Ayyships anymore.
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>>156815910
well fuck. could have taken advantage of that Sabre freefly.
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>>156816101
they're in some large packs
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>>156815910
I'm using a superhornet. Got to wave 12, best I've ever done. I was distracted and still learning. Also my computer performance wasn't that great since I had the stream on in the background.
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>>156816059
That's the point. Currently it's nigh impossible to hit a target with ballistics and energy weapons at the same time. Therefore a hybrid build means splitting your damage in half at any given time. 4x energy weapons will end up doing more damage than 2x balistics/2x energy weapons because only half your guns will be hitting a target most of the time.
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>>156816969
I don't think you understand, anon.

You were comparing two situations where you simply have more guns in one, so obviously its going to be better.

You can simply have 4 ballistics.
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Attention! Those streaming chucklefucks are in the PU. Somebody do something!
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getting tired already, this will be my last raffle

I have to win or I have to start with a LN (when I buy a package sometime)
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BASED JARED WITH THE PHOENIX UPGRADE
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>>156817669
or you can join my org and be my co pilot
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>>156817497
Just a matter of connecting and reconnecting to the PU in the mad hope that you get onto their instance

Then hoping you can catch up with them

All the while hoping you don't crash while trying

No thanks
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>>156817719
I, still need acces to the game
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>>156817669
An LN is perfectly cappible of doing stuff in game. Just not fighting hornetniggers and sabrefags
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>>156817881
yeah I know, hoping for cheaper package on sunday. Need the money to upgrade my toaster someday
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>>156817881
Not much is totally capable of fighting a ship that is actually broken
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvEtWU6Rpt4

Jesus fucking Christ, I knew LOD was a piece of shit, but I had no idea just how bad it really is.
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>>156818981
That doesn't look like Star Citizen or Elite Dangerous
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>>156818981
man I thought that was like crusader kings or something in the thumbnail, but it's actually the in game planetside area from overhead view
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>>156818981
really, kill yourself
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>>156819780
Why are you so upset over one person's post? You must have some sort of emotional attachment to it.
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>tfw when the raffle goes past your name
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Jesus Christ the germans are scary.
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>>156820030
you Derek Shart/LoD obsession is annoying

>hurr durr let mention derek every possible minute
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>>156820542
So is your atrocious spelling.

I'm not the same anon, dipshit. That's why I said "one person's post" and not "my post."

I was genuinely wondering why talking about LoD bothers you so much. If it's because you think it doesn't contribute anything to the thread, that's not exactly true, and there is little conversation going on right now anyway. I could care less whether we do or don't, but seeing someone with clenched buttcheeks over it is pretty sad.
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>wave 16 VS
>crashhandler.exe
Nope.
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What's the fastest way to earn REC? I prefer fighting NPCs. I don't seem to get any from Vanduul Swarm.
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>>156821717
racing
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>>156821871
Too bad, I can't fly and racing mode is absolute garbage.
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>>156821294
>I could care less
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>>156821294
So
if the amount you care is C
C > 0
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/rsi-polaris-presale
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Sup non-concierge
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It's a fucking fat connie
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F
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>>156822397
>>156822417
any advantage to buying now if it is not going to be limited
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>>156822570
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>>156822694
Special Extras

The first wave of Polaris hulls, constructed for this pre-sale, will include unique registry numbers indicative of the order in which they were reserved. The sale page will show the next block of numbers being sold, but it cannot guarantee a particular number. Additionally, a printed version of the 28-page Polaris brochure will be delivered by mail; several preview pages are included in this post and the full digital brochure will go online on Sunday.
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>>156822632
>>156822417
>>156822570
>>156822721
Honestly, that fan pic wasn't too far off.
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>>156822798
is it more expensive?
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>>156822417
It looks like a flounder in this image.
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Where the fuck did this image come from then.
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>>156822570
>>156822721
Torpedo based I guess
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>>156822918
Entirely fan made
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>>156822863
It's actually cheaper by $125. $625 at checkout.
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No fuck off ben.
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>>156822154
>>156822378
You are mistaken. I could care less about someone posting LoD related stuff. I get pissed when people tell those people to fuck off and stop posting it.
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>Its a "Invalidate the Retaliator like the Vanguard invalidated the Gladiator" ship
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>>156823208
>fat cunt
>makes a pizza slice ship
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>>156823251
You misunderstand, you are saying you care about people posting LoD stuff.
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>>156823137
link?
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>>156822570
>>156822417

>>156770861
>lol fake
pretty close actually. what is this fucking RSI meme with the nose cockpits surrounded in glass though, that shit is just inappropriate for a corvette.
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>>156823329
>It's a "shitty grammar mixed with retardation comparing a corvette to a heavy bomber" post
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>>156822863
>>156823137
>>156823506
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>>156823412
You are bad at reading comprehension.


I said I don't care about people posting it. I do care about people who don't like those people posting it.
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>The Polaris is a nimble corvette-class capital ship that packs a powerful punch with a full armament of turrets and torpedoes. Intended for use as both a naval patrol ship and to serve as the flagship of militia operations, Polaris has the capacity to perform search and rescue operations, light strike missions and general security patrols. The Polaris includes the facilities to repair, rearm and refuel a single fighter, light bomber or support ship.

>The Polaris is being offered for the first time as a limited concept sale. This means that the ship design meets our specifications, but it is not yet ready to display in your Hangar, fight in Arena Commander or fly in the Alpha. The sale includes Lifetime Insurance on the ship hull and a pair of decorative items for your Hangar. A future patch will add a Polaris poster and then once the in-game model is finished you will also be given an in-game Polaris mini ship model. In the future, the ship price will increase and the offer will not include Life Time Insurance or these extras.

Only chance for LTI I guess

>The special preview sale of the Polaris will be available until the end of the standard Polaris sale on October 17th, 2016. The special pricing is available only to Concierge backers, Subscribers and CitizenCon 2016 Attendees. The full brochure, holoviewer, tech overview and other information will be available at this time. The preview edition of the Polaris, which includes the numbered designation and the printed brochure, is available only with the e-mail coupon code. To allow for the discount, store credit is disabled for this sale. The regular Polaris sale on Sunday will allow for store credit purchases.
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>>156789925
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>>156823506
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/rsi-polaris-presale

You probably can't access it without concierge status anyway
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Subscribers and CitizenCon goers just got an email with a presale coupon code that allows you to buy the Polaris for $625. I can access the page because I entered the coupon, but if you go there it will 404 if you haven't.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Standalone-Ships/RSI-Polaris-LTI-War-Bond-Presale

Too bad I can't afford it. :(
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>>156823652
forgot my dick
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still not pay2win right?
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>>156822721
I like it. Not "drop seven hundred and fifty dollerydoos" like it, but it's kind of nice.
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>>156823914
lol
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>>156823554
Yeah, because the Gladiator totally has a use now that the Vanguard is on the scene.

Retaliator is a sitting duck with its turret placement, might as well go a little bit bigger and actually have some survivability / actually be able to bring along your fighter escort that is required.

gg no re
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>>156823914
I dunno, can I never access it when the game comes out?
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>>156823914
nothing with this ship is new so that doesn't work lol
like there's two bigger ships
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>>156823914
>>156823914
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>>156823994
>Yeah, because dinghies with machine guns mounted on them totally have a use now that aircraft carriers are on the scene.
Just shut the fuck up, you're so stupid.
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>>156823761
>Literally a fat Connie
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>>156823914
Considering you'll need to spend a fuckton of money on fuel and torpedoes for it, and it can't go through smaller jump points, and you'll need to either have friends or pay an AI crew to actually use it, not really p2w, no. In fact, the more expensive and bigger the ship, the more shit you'll have to deal with just to fly it.
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>5 manned turrets
>1 automated turret

What's with the crap loadout?
The carrack with great side coverage turrets and two unmanned turrets feel way better at this point.
Not counting torpedoes and the fighter though. But it's not like the fighter is included. AND it costs twoce as much as the Carrack.
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>>156824138
Nice strawman, Chris.

Stop shitting on previous ships with new expensive ones.
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>>156822932
>>156822721
>literally just a bigger fatter retaliator type ship with the bad looks of RSI

are they even fucking trying?
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>>156824223
One of these will kill 3 Carracks lol
>not counting torpedoes
>not counting the entire point of the ship
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>>156824223

The Carrack has good coverage but the guns are what, size 3? It doesn't have any way to really damage something as big or bigger than it.

The Polaris torpedoes are specifically to annihilate large ships, so giving it a ton of fighter-clearing turrets would be a bit much I think.
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>>156824208
>Considering you'll have to do x,y, and z

No, anon, all that is irrelevant. Pay 2 win is one single thing: can a person pay to get an advantage over others that another cannot get without paying. That is the only thing you need to ask when someone says "Is it p2w?"
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Fuck, last raffle and I got nothing. Raffle went right past my name.
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>>156824208
Thanks to that image we know that turrets can be totally automated now, so not even NPCs are needed!
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>>156824376
not saying it won't shit on the dedicated explorer ship I just find the amount of turrets underwhelming is all.
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>>156824648
*polaris and any expensive ships that come after it only
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>>156822570
>tfw
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>>156824506
good thing manned turrets make hitting anything impossible
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>No store credit applicable to use the discount
No Polaris for me it seems.
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>>156825301
They're already up to 600 sold.
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>>156825301
Smart for reselling
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>>156823761
they seemed to have learned from the terrible placement of turrets on the retaliator. at least now multiple turrets share fields of fire
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>>156825340
Do they have a limit?
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So does anybody have ideas of how long it would take to earn ships in game or not enough data yet?
I would be eager to learn approximate hour work values
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>>156825301
Meanwhile I'm still trying to get a new job. Must be nice to have that much extra cash to spend on virtual ships just to resell them
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>>156825516
No clue. All it says in regards to exclusivity is:
>The preview edition of the Polaris, which includes the numbered designation and the printed brochure, is available only with the e-mail coupon code.

So the hangar flair and LTI should be the same when it goes up on Sunday. I don't think they've said if it will be limited or not.

I can't afford it which sucks, but you will be able to earn it in game, so you're really missing out on some small stuff like having a number designation on your ship and receiving a physical brochure.
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Fuck it I'm keeping my Glaive :^)
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>>156822570

I wouldn't dislike as much if the bridge wasn't at the front of the ship. It would look better if it sat back towards the middle.
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That's the ship I'm looking for. The one with the big haul...
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>the polarisposter has now stopped spamming threads with fan designs
Excellent. Now we just need the Freelancer and Carrack posters to stop.
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>>156826586
Yeah I guess it's to make it easier to differentiate from the Idris and Javelin but it looks poop
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that polaris looking good lads

but best ship is still terrapin
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>>156826778
>Even make references in the concept art to the fact that the new ships shit all over old ones and make them garbage in comparison

subtle, Chris.

subtle.
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>>156826637
I'll be spamming official artwork now.


I solemnly swear that I'm up to no good and will use these 24x s6 torps against. Admiral
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>>156826876
>>156826778
was about to point that out, what old ship is that getting disrespected in half just below the new money?
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>>156826905
I'm still going to post the IMPOSSIBRU as a reminder of what never was.
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>>156826876
Holy shit you're fucking retarded. Of course a fucking corvette would shit all over a heavy bomber 1v1 you fucking idiot. What the fuck do you fucking expect?
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>>156826905
>I'll be spamming official artwork now
But why? We can all see the art on the RSI site. And it looks stupid. Honestly why?
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>>156827000
Constellation I think
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>>156827030
The ship getting blown up is a Constellation, gramps.
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no reason to keep this now
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>>156825761
Credit my friend
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>>156827080
yeah it looks ugly, I'd prefer to see as little of it as possible
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>>156827169
forgot pic
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>equal melt value

hmm
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>>156827331
Isn't this significantly smaller?

Also, what other shit did TheAgentâ„¢ claim about the Polaris that was outright wrong?
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>>156827291
>>156827080
Not sure what aesthetic benchmarks you guys are judging it by, but it looks pretty nice to me.
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>>156827421
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>>156827421
significantly less firepower as well
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>>156827160
That's a polaris being blown up by the kingship, Pal
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>>156827527
Not seeing any modules
And it only fits one

His price excuse is that people were willing to pay more on the forums though
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>>156827160
Why do you stupid kids think pointing out one wrong detail makes the whole point irrelevant? Your autistic objection is irrelevant. A corvette can and should shit all over a "space superiority" heavy fighter too. It's like you fucks are allergic to using your brain for three seconds.
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>>156827627
>His price excuse

He was wrong twice about price. The original price and then the 100 dollars off.
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>>156827627
>>156827527

>not reading the trip code and message in last thread OP
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>>156827695
Its fun watching you get mad, probably.

Its also in direct opposition to Chris's statement of "every ship has a use" when certain ships make others totally useless
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>>156822721
Are those hangar bay doors on the top?
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>>156827810
It carries "one fighter or bomber" so probably
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So do we compare these classifications like "corvette" "fighter" "heavy fighter" to planetary vehicles of similar designation?
or are you all comparing armaments, armor, and capability?
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>>156827759
That would actually make a lot of sense...
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>>156827780
Polaris shits on other ships in combate cause its focus is combat. Carrack is a better explorer, Reclaimer is a better salvaged, Connie is more multirole
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>>156827895
so it's just a bigger constellation crossbred with a retaliator?

so much for ship roles I guess
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>>156827903
I doubt we're going to get anything on the ground that can fuck with anything bigger than fighters
At least for a while after release
This isn't Planetside
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>>156828024
Uh huh.

Because the Retaliator isn't focused on bombing.
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>>156828041
well I should have said of real life contemporary designation
heavy fighters so far as i know haven't been a thing since WWII
corvettes are a naval term also, as far as I know
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>>156828178
>Since WW2

Almost every fighter designation has been retired since WW2. I think the only things we have now are air superiority fighters, bombers, and ground attack.
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>>156828151
Look at it this way: Retaliator is a much smaller target, making it easier to maneuver and escape enemy fire, while Polaris will be stuck in battle. Several Retaliators or Gladiators might still make short work of Polaris if coordinated effectively.
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>>156828364
Thanks to the new ship speeds, good luck manouvering!
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>>156827780
Every ship does have a use, though, sperg. Just because a corvette is better armed in every way than a retaliator doesn't mean the smaller ship that costs less, costs less to maintain, and operates with fewer crew has no use.
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>>156828495
>Its the cost argument again

lmao
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>>156828151
Wouldn't 2 or 3 Retaliators kill a Polaris though?
I mean if your Org is looking at costs at all
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>>156828458
Ship speeds will change hundreds times over yet, not a valid argument.
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>>156828592
>still hasn't learned the difference between its and it's
>refuses to believe economics affects things
This website is for 18+ only, little guy.
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>>156828671
Totally valid argument, they said they want them slower than they are now, and Retaliator can't avoid shit right now.
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>polaris packs a single full sized fighter or bomber
>polaris has better turret coverage than the retaliator
>polaris has a larger cargo capacity than the constellation
>polaris has automated weapons outclassing the constellation
>polaris has torpedos, outclassing the retaliator

why even bother with either the constellation or retaliator at this point?
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>>156828710
>still hasn't learned the difference between its and it's

Yes, clearly you haven't.
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>>156828728
>slower top speeds in SCM for all ships = Retaliator is automatically less maneuverable
>current ship speed change is permanent
>acceleration/deceleration rates don't matter for maneuverability

What other bullshit are you gonna post next?
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>>156828764
>lotus elise totally outclasses my '85 toyota corolla
Why even bother with cheap used cars anymore? :'(
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>>156828764
>why even bother with either the constellation or retaliator at this point?

ja¥p€g$
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>>156828841
Nice try, but that level of stupidity isn't even plausible.
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>EVE has titans so why have battleships?
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>>156828896
Yes, clearly the result of going slower than current speeds, and having its manouverability nerfs means the Retaliator will gain manouverability

lmao
>>
I was hoping SC would avoid ED's mistake of making ships that are straight upgrades to other ships. Now, I hope that SC implements "levels" properly. As in, having areas which are clearly meant for newbies, dads, etc while having other areas which require stronger ships to survive in.

I'd like to see large areas of space that are beefed up Kareah/Grim Hex that practically require the more expensive ships to navigate and survive.
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>>156829120
Compared to Polaris? Why, yes, absolutely. Or do expect Polaris to handle like a fucking Sabre?
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>>156829313
>I was hoping SC would avoid ED's mistake of making ships that are straight upgrades to other ships.
>In a game that has ship sizes ranging from space motorcycle to gigantic dreadnought
Well you're a huge fucking retard then, aren't you?
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>>156829321
Not going to have a problem hitting either unless you've got cerebral palsy
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>>156829537
>Being a faggot

Stop that.
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God why is CIG incapable of making a decent looking cap ship?

Only passable looking one was the Bengal, but CIG didn't make it.
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>>156829676
>Being fucking stupid
No, you stop.
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>>156828041
Planetary defenses are probably going to be a thing.
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>>156829720
>Bengal
>Not Pegasus Escort Carrier
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>>156829757
>Continues being a faggot

I told you to stop. If you have nothing to discuss, fuck off.
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>>156829676
No anon, you're just dumb. There will be ship upgrades. They come along with baggage that makes them harder to operate or limited at smaller scales, but it's impossible to create this many different kinds of ships without some just being better than others.
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>>156829537
Those size ranges should mean all ships can have a useful role because different tasks would demand different size ships
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>>156829720
they've shown another capital ship? I thought Bengal was the only one
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>>156829896
I said straight upgrades. Yall niggas need to read better. ED's problem is that once you upgrade your ship to another, you have zero reason to go back to previous ones other than dumb shit roleplaying.
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>>156830001
There's whatever this railgun thing is called
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>>156829720
>I don't like ships CIG makes, why don't they conform to my specific tastes in sci-fi capital spaceships?

Getting real tired of this shit. Go watch so more Star Wars or whatever the fuck it is you like more then.
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>>156823652
So can it carry a real fighter while it travels around or just let it land temporarily?

A less retarded retaliator combined with a crucible might actually be nice. Fuck if I'm paying 750 dollars for it though.
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>>156827759
So white_shrugging is a grandpa level goon? Or he's impersonating him?

Ow so confuse
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>>156832312
>2.6 is folded into 3.0
>also, all work on 3.0 is stopped for SQ42
>leveling characters
>SQ42 and SC is unified

>repeating what CR and pretty much all the rest of CIG already said was gonna be shown at CitCon

Does he actually ever expected people to believe him? Is he trolling Derek or SC fanbase, or does he just throw a bait and hope anybody takes it? What is this guy's angle here?
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>>156832824
This is one of the most frequent regulars lol
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>>156829803
The Pegasus is ugly and goofy as fuck
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>>156830390
You can fuck right back off to the RSI forums, the frown ups are disscussing space ships here
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Will 2.2 revive /edg/? There's one post in this entire thread about Elite.
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>>156833685
>the frown ups are disscussing space ships here

wew lad
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Where?

Also: No.
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>>156833789
Can't revive what was never alive in the first place.
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>>156834001
ouch...
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>>156833789
Dunno. Isn't the beta going on? Nobody is even discussing it.
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>>156833789

2.1 didn't. This won't.

>>156834492

They almost had something interesting from the gamescom reveal but then immediately afterward they backpedaled to their go-to of no fun allowed.
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>>156834676
>their go-to of no fun allowed.
thanks forumdads
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>Retaliator-No pilot controlled guns because it supposedly doesn't need them.
>Polaris- Has pilot controlled turret despite being three times the size and likely having a fraction of the mobility in SCM.
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>>156834676
>Backpedaled to their go-to of no fun allowed

Yeah, I'm still mad about ship transfers, and I'll probably be forever mad. Though I'm just surprised nobody is talking about the ship launched fighters or the new cargo runni- I mean taxi service.
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Tell me about the memes

https://a.pomf.cat/vcbpqn.webm
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/56excz/notes_from_impromptu_qas_on_todays_livestream/
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>>156835153
Space bydlo simulator?
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>>156835153
Good news everyone, today we're announcing some more cockpit items for you all to buy!
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>>156835257
>different biomes having special characteristics (e.g. desert tileset showing mirage effects under certain heat conditions)

holy fuck
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>>156834854

Beta tester here (trolled hard by the Kikestarter lifetime pass). I can scarcely be bothered anymore because it never amounts to anything.

Fighters are kind of fun to fly and undergoing a lot of tweaking. They were hilariously awful at first. Like the Taipan turned like a Viper-4 and literally could not outrun an A-rated Type-9. The Condor still has weaker lateral thrusters than a Type-7 but we don't know if that's even a bug or not because the devs won't say.

AI crew below Elite are retards and will just lose the fighter repeatedly or get your mothership destroyed if you let them pilot it. Even after investing in training up a pilot to Elite (max they can start at is Expert), they're permanently dead if your main ship is destroyed while they're on board. They also take a share of everything you earn even while they're inactive and off the ship. It's 12% of all your profit for one expert rank pilot, so 36% if you hire all three crew slots.
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>>156835964
Some of this is unbelievable. I've gone pretty much blackout on ED aside from what small amount gets posted in this thread.
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>>156832312
>lever your character
This is for smart, who else would fall for it?
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>>156835964

Bulk passenger missions are just cargo missions with a different type of cargo rack.

VIP tourism missions amount to: Go to this place, scan this beacon and come back to the same station. The VIP might introduce additional tasks to do, but it's essentially the same as what happens with cargo missions and the rewards are similar (+50K to do this inconvenient thing on a 5mil mission) so they're completely meh.

All VIPs except criminals are pussies so you can't ever take hull damage or they flip the fuck out on you and cut your pay or flat-out eject the cabin's escape pod and leave you with a broken cabin to repair.

Mid-range missions have some stacking potential for cash (4-5mil to go a few hundred ly) but the really long range ones aren't worth at all (7-8mil to go 10-20K ly).
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>>156836669
>50k extra
>At the risk of having a broken cabin to repair

WHAT that doesn't even cover the cost of having to repair the cabins for a lot of ships if I recall. Can you at least shoot the fuckers in the escape pods?
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>>156836787

Nope. They don't actually leave your ship as a physical object. The mission just changes to failed and the cabin's status changes to escape pod missing.
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>>156836947
>The mission just changes to failed

The entire mission fails despite it only being a single VIP asking? I guess they decided fuck it, and didn't program them as separate entities.
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>>156836947
Presumably the cabin escape pods have infinite and instant teleport like the player's. AI crew don't because they'll want a stress holiday after a traumatic experience and fuck that.

>>156837153
Each VIP is a single mission. They're completely separate from bulk passenger missions.
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I prefer the fan art.
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>>156837153

A VIP encompasses its own mission. They require higher quality cabins and are lore'd to bring an entourage so they take up a handful of passenger slots.

eg: One VIP = one mission = 5 luxury cabin slots
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>>156837620
>>156837416
>VIP is a single mission

I see. It seemed like there were VIPs among the bulk trades and were random passengers that just payed extra to have you take them somewhere
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CIG should stop letting BEN be on live streams
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>>156837531
>Those hangar doors at the top

Is this the Bebop we've I've been dreaming of?
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>>156837870

I've never had bulk passengers do anything but behave like inert cargo. They're all like "we have a vacation booked at this prison colony over here, can you get us there within 4H?" and then you go drop them off. If you fail the mission timer they just eject.

VIPs want to go see something and come back, and have scripted reactions in the form of messages and pay cuts/bonuses. How they react to different things is listed in the mission profile.

Some don't like being scanned, being in danger (ie: taking hull damage), taking too long or witnessing you commit crimes. Or they might attract extra interdictions, be wanted by the cops (making them illicit cargo) or make requests more frequently.
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>>156838448
>If you fail the mission timer they just eject

Jesus. Quite literally generic cargo but you can't even salvage what's in your cargo hold.

>Some don't like

At least they've added something to take away what sounds like a mediocre addition. So those VIPs immediately abandon ship once any of those conditions are met? It wouldn't surprise me if there are VIPs that meet all the conditions and are impossible to be delivered
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>>156838128
CIG should euthanize Ben.
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>>156838373
Costs a bit much for me but i hope it wont be too much of a grind to get one.
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>>156838682

Passenger missions pay a bit more than cargo for similar amounts of internal space but it's nothing groundbreaking.

The VIP may eject or they may just penalize you and reduce the mission payout. How likely they are to do either depends on the scenario and seems to be a hidden stat. Repeated penalties are more likely to result in an ejection.
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>>156838128
I think ben has photos of chris or sandy or something to blackmail them
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Ayy boys
Haven't been to the general since the merger. What's the latest for the VISION? Did NMS being trash bring more players to Elite?
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>>156839705
>Did NMS being trash bring more players to Elite

all it did was bring more memesters to the general
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>>156838373
Bebop still seems more like a crucible or carrack to me. Spike and faye's ships were basically snubs anyway.
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>>156836669

Also, new engineers specializing in utility mounts and a few new internals.

You'd think this would be an opportunity for compelling new ship tweaks but for the most part the only mods available are to either reduce module weight or increase integrity.

You can reinforce your refinery and fuel scoop so they'll hold up longer in combat.

Yep...
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>>156839842
Unless the bottom compartments can be retrofitted somehow to house fighters, it will lack that aspect. And weren't their ships capable of more than snubfighters? I thought snubs can't stray too far from their home ships while Faye's, Jet's and Spike's ships all could pretty much go wherever they wanted.
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>out of 495 posts maybe 15 are about elite
May as well ditch the /edg/ part of this general
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>>156840890
How about no?
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>>156840890
Trying to split again, huh?
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>>156841021
There is nothing to split, m8. /edg/ is fucking dead.
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>>156841021
And the cycle will continue, as one dies so to shall another be born
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>>156841748
Shit, this was meant for you >>156841196
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>>156841021
>someone rightly points out once again that this thread is /scg/ and doesn't even remotely need /edg/
>rEDards come out of the woodwork from not even discussing their own game to call him bogeyman split-kun
Just accept your place as second-class citizens in the thread already.
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>>156782620
who in their right mind would spend hundreds or thousands of dollar on jpegs?
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>>156844248
>replying to a post from 15 hours ago

Wow, really triggered you didn't it?
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So in korean grindfest if i upgrade my thrusters does that ship become more manuverable or does it just increase straight line speed?
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>>156845123

Maneuverability is also improved. You can actually see it in outfitting in the form of degrees per second on each axis.
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>Another hueg glass cockpit jutting into the aether

Fuck. its excusable on exploration based ships like the carrack, but on a combat ship it looks retarded.
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What's the UEE's anthem?
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>>156845987
How many times does someone have to explain to you that it's not glass, retard? Are you like that guy from Memento but you have "go on /scg/" tattooed to your chest?
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>>156845987
>glass
It's future supertough transparent armor material, according to lore. Shit's expensive and hard to produce, which is why it's only used on cockpits and small windows.
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>>156845987
Dont worry, I'm sure they'll put giant metal struts right in front on the pilot's view like aways.
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>>156845987
>People complain visibility is shit
>People complain glass cockpits look shit
I guess you can't please everyone.
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>>156823761
>Can't use store credit to buy discounted Polaris.
>Only difference is a unique in game hull number, physical brochure and discount
Well I guess nothing was lost besides a few extra melted ships I don't ever use.
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>>156845987

>glass

Just fucking stop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxynitride
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>>156847689
Not in this thread. No matter how any ship looks, there's a dozen of anons here who will claim it looks like shit. It's like mini /v/ in here.
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>>156845987
>design Polaris in the shape of an arrowhead
>fit the bridge on the tip
Shit design shit game dead thread
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>>156850308
Anon, if they created a ship just like the Enterprise D, spergs like you would whine that there's a circular "glass" viewport in the ceiling of the bridge and also whine that they can't see below the ship from the windows on deck 1.
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>>156850421
I don't think the Enterprise ever fought a craft that doubled as a knife. Haha, oh wait.
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>90% of ships more than £60

When will I be able to buy ships with in game money?
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>>156853390
>When will I be able to buy ships with in game money?

When the game launches.
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>>156835257
>>156835919
>tells a story where a senior technical director had an idea for atmospherics, talked about how weather cycles were driven in real life, and coded a system that could mimic it over a weekend

If this tech is viable imagine what it could mean for other developers that use Star Engine.
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>>156853661

Shagohad pls
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>>156853764
Do I type like some retarded yurofag who gets triggered into a rant?
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>>156853661
Please tell me you aren't this autistic? I want to believe that people aren't so dense.
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>>156853875
Hi confusion
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>>156822721
>>156822570
>>156822417
>5? manned turrets

HAHAHAHA how about nope and not interested in this shitbox

too bad the fan pic looks better
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>>156853924
What's wrong with manned turrets?
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>>156853905
>that reaching

Jesus stop it's embarrassing.

>tfw you don't even know who confusion is
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>>156853795
>everyone who disagrees or makes fun of me is a smartie
>Do I type like some retarded yurofag who gets triggered into a rant?

Yes, yes you do.
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>>156854019
>Ved

Who?
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>>156853924

It's got seven turrets you goob.
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>>156825761
>Must be nice to have that much extra cash
>americans
>having money
>ever

top kek
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>>156854378

Shagohad, we understand that you're butthurt, but really, this isn't the place to vent about Americans because someone called you a numale.
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>>156828274
multirole and interceptor
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>>156832312
White_shrugging is a ancient GoonStation 13 Goon sent to purify the GoonRathi with epic lulz
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>>156850308
How big is the Polaris?
To me it looks like a Constelation with the midrift filled out, and the whole thing has been arrow-headed.
If it's a similar size to the Con then I can see why "the Bridge" would be at the nose, as its basically a "big fighter".
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>>156854961
>How big is the Polaris?

>>156854084
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>>156829803
shit
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>>156854978
Right ok, so double the length of the Constellation.
Still looks like one though.
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>>156853390
>britbong

you better buy now a ship before 100% >£60 :^)
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>>156854532
>someone called you a numale.
when did this happen lardass?
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>>156854961
Looks to be a little larger than a starfarer
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>>156856121
By about 50m, it's 155 compared to the starfarer's 90-100.
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>>156827396
Can't use store credits
Beware
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>>156856765
Alien pack is $750 Melt value.

You'll be able to melt for it on Sunday for the mainsale.
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It's funny to watch the forums explode every single time a new sale starts
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>>156856950
>"[Ship] isn't what I expected it to be to my unrealistic and/or personnal beliefs and theorycrafting, I am dissapointed in this ship because it didn't reach my unrealistic expectations"

I don't know what the people shitting on the Polaris were expecting, they weren't going to get a 110m ship with the loadout from a Idris.
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>CIG making millions for doolaroos in few hours just by selling jpgs


wow, so genius and evil
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>>156857138

They expected it to be a castrated anti-fighter platform that can't hurt anything larger than a Hornet.
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>>156857620
s6 T O R P S x 24
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>Ben supposedly said that he had saw and taken notes of this poll
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>>156857685
>RSI want a big constellation
>get a big constellation

What's the problem? The community asked for it.
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>>156857948
>Implying it isn't a bigger Retaliator
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>>156858019
It's a bigger constellation.
>can dock smaller fighter
>some cargo capacity

Rather than having a clusterfuck of smaller missiles they gave it Torps so it can take on larger ships as well, giving it exra versatility. Only similarity to the Tali is they both can mount torps, Tali bomber isn't versatile and needs a module swap for another role unlike the Constellation and Polaris
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>>156857948

>bawww why does it have the capital ship version of missiles?!

^ That's why.
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>>156857604
Polaris is under devolepment.Donors get one of the constellations in the meantime.CIG aren't selling jpgs per se.
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>all these niggers complaining about the polaris

Its exactly what its meant to be as a corvette of that size. An ass load turrets on a tanky ass ship that fucks anything that gets into range of it. Most efficient way to take it out is with torpedoes from bombers or cap ships. GG that's the meta get over it, anon go home.
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>>156858404
That's post was bait, Anon. But thanks for the (you)
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>>156858476
With the slower flight coming with 3.0 it'll be interesting to see how larger ships factor into this.

I predict ships with turrets starting to be actually useful, once you have a chance of hitting something with them.
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>Brian Chambers told a story where a senior technical director had an idea for atmospherics, talked about how weather cycles were driven in real life, and coded a system that could mimic it over a weekend

All hail German wizards
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>>156858540
All hail.

psst, got a times
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>>156858585
fuck, autopost took over too soon. lemme try that again.

pssst, got a timestamp for that? People keep talking about it but I can't find it in the VOD
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>>156858585
No, not just hail, normal rain sunshine etc too!
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>>156858758

MESSER DID NOTHING WRONG, MAKE THE UEE GREAT AGAIN
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>>156858758
I demand a hail-only planet.
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>>156858401
>^ That's why.
Aren't capital ships supposed to have torpedoes?
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>>156858646
/starcitizen/v/93589196
starting from 01:05:20
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>>156858936
Thanks anon
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Can you buy voyager direct weapons once the game launches?

I've got 29k UEC from the kickstarter stuff so far but I can't afford more than like 2 guns with 'LTI'.

What sucks is this stupid site hasn't even been improved and we don't know what weapons are going to be added in the future, it seems like only a fraction are in it so far.

Can anyone give advice? What do you suggest? I think it's probably best to save my UEC for the game, but then again if I lose the ability to buy the weapons from here so that I always have access to them I'll have missed out.

I was planning on getting the Flashfire Hornet mount and the size 4 APAR gattling. It comes to 26k UEC, though. But I don't know if I'll even use the superhornet when the game launches, seems like a load of shit to me, expensive cash shop faggotry on an unprecedented scale.
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>>156859787
>I think it's probably best to save my UEC for the game

Yes
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>>156859893
But those weapons will get blown up in 1 hour and then I'll have to grind lots of shit just to buy them again. What's the point?

>buy them for $18 forever
>or grind for them in-game forever

I hate CIG.
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>>156822721
And you faggots tried to convince me that everyone would start melting down their Carracks for this shit.
It looks like a Retaliator with extended hauling capability.
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>>156859992
Now you're just making up shiat
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>>156860014
Its a Retaliator with a lot more torpedoes, some special high-velocity launching system, its own full size escort bay, better turret placement..

nobody's melted for it yet because you can't
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Just recently discovered Star Citizen and i have to say its quite promising graphically but i have to ask what sort of gameplay should i expect from this title?
WW2 style dogfights between small squadrons of fighters covering couple of bombers or naval battles in space with destroyers,battleships and aircraft carriers?
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>>156838373
>>Polaris
>>Those hangar doors at the top
>Is this the Bebop we've I've been dreaming of?

The Bebop was a fisher boat (yes) that can go in space, it had no weapon beside the characters' personal-fighter.

In star citizen the closest I see would be a Caterpillar or a Starfarer if it had enclosed landing bay rather than cargo rack
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>>156860015
No he isn't.

Unless someone is covered by insurance, its gone. Nothing you buy in VD is covered innately by insurance.
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>>156840765
> And weren't their ships capable of more than snubfighters?

Well, yes, but that's mostly because FTL in Cowboy Bebop doesn't require a warp-drive, when you look at the size of their ship they are as small as snub fighter, so it is more exact to compare with them.
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>>156860406
>is this huge capital ship with 5 turrets the same as my animu fishing boat? xDxDxD
>>
Aegis cucks are now totally fucked as the polaris renders the retaliator totally obsolete.

Why waste hundreds of hours getting that sack of shit when there is the polaris that shits all over its "special role" of shooting its pathetic load of torpedoes at a capital ship?
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>>156860725
Because the Tali is cheaper old-messer era Surplus for people want to deploy a larger number of smaller and faster Torpships
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cant wait when 4-5 singleseat ships will ambush polaris and make whales cry
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>>156860878
>larger number of cheaper torpships

Gladiator shits all over the tali in that regard, and maybe the MISlancer too
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>>156860725

>larger more expensive ship with X weapon makes smaller less expensive ship with X weapon obsolete

Stop.
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>>156861159
>price as a balance mechanism

Never, ever works in any game with persistence. Only counter strike manages because everyone starts the same each match.
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>>156860725
>Everyone is now totally fucked as the Bengal Carrier renders the Aurora totally obsolete
>>
Polaris looks really cool desu. Would get it with store credits but can't afford it without the discount and melting.
I hope it's not too rare in game.
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>>156860390
>what sort of gameplay should i expect from this title?
>WW2 style dogfights between small squadrons of fighters covering couple of bombers or naval battles in space with destroyers,battleships and aircraft carriers?

A mix that take the best of dogfight warfare and missile/torpedo combat.
The main difference being that this sort-of MMO is more centered around purpose-built spaceship with limitation (for example you basically can't fit through some Jump-gate with the 2 bigger size ships), more than upgrading to bigger ship and blowing stuff anything better.

However you'll still see a raging war on that, some pledger being mad that the ship they "bought" TEST pre-access for won't allow them to gain instant superiority against anything that live.
(I'm dramatizing of course)

The next version will test drastic change in gameplay, making all ships slower, which may not please everybody but fit WWI or WWII spirit
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>>156861110
Anon, you do understand the difference between Missiles and torps, right? A Retaliator Torp is the size of the Gladiator, you hunt different targets. Gladiator is designed as a planetary bomber
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>>156861496
>can't fit through some Jump-gate
this is so fucking arcade like, fucking shit system
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>>156861572
>Gladiator is designed as a planetary bomber
>features that will never actually be in the game

lol at you cultists
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>>156861301
>More strawman arguments from CIG apologists
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>>156861572
>A Retaliator Torp is the size of the Gladiator

In a game where we can walk around these ships for better perspective of size, how can you be so mistaken?

The torpedoes are nowhere near that size, they're maybe 5m long
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>>156861496
thanks for the response
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>>156860630
>FTL
>cowboy bebop

what.
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>>156822932
>S6 Torpedoes
Welp there goes my last reason to get the Retaliator in the game...
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>>156861976
Maybe if the retaliator could carry 24 torpedoes itself then it could be more efficient capital ship attacker, but giving the polaris a far better load?

I bet ben did this.
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>>156861715
Anon, I've viewed them both and compared them while fucking around in CryEngine. You are the one that is incredibly mistaken.
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Just completed wave 18 of VS, it says I can now rent the glaive or even buy it. When I go to the store, it's $420 and out of stock. Ugh.
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>>156862281

You can still get it temporarily with REC. You're about a year and two months too late for the 1,000 Glaives they sold.
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wew, scam citizen
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>>156862351
Yeah I know, I missed out on them.
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>>156862169
You fucked up importing then.

The torpedo can be walked around in the retaliator bay and it is way smaller than the gladiator
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Can Reclaimer land on planet?
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>>156861296
>>price as a balance mechanism
>Never, ever works in any game with persistence.

While I mostly agree with you, there is other balance mechanism that can do that balance using persistence, it just take a willingness from the game-designer to not consider do-everything ship getting bigger as player "level up".

Ex : Money can still be a justification, if you can make money with size 2 ships but size 3 ships make you unprofitable. This one is not obvious for players who jerk off at having personal-power but is perfectly logic if you where a big company which can't do without huge ship for some stuff but make most of its money with cheaper ship (or non-combat big ship).

Other example :
-The basic stats. The retaliator is certain to be much faster and stealthy.
-Whether or not you can navigate easily through an asteroid field.
- If your bigger ship can't fit in the warp-gate
- or land at any spaceport because you are HUGE.
And I'm not mentioning other because we don't have enough infos.

> this post got bigger than I wanted
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>>156862401
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>>156862401
>>156862586

We lad it's almost like someone made a triangle ship before them.
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>>156862586
The first image had some likeness, but that looks nothing like it.
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The Retaliator was already a retarded ship because of its crew requirements, defense, and tiny load of torpedoes, but this is basically the final nail in the coffin.

Why fulfill the needs for a retaliator with 7 crew when you can be better off with 5 Gladiators for less crew and a higher volume of ordinance and more versatility and higher chances of survival? Not only that, but also be able to (Potentially) bring your ships through smaller jump points?

The "Retaliator was essentially made for a S42 bomber cutscene" argument never made more sense than now. There just doesn't seem to be a point in having a Retaliator when you're highly unlikely to run into a ship it was 'designed' to attack like corvettes or capitals, and even when it drops its torps, it's basically done for the fight unlike the Gladiator that can also be a passable fighter with plenty of additional missiles to boot. Now with the new corvette that can carry torpedoes as well, the Retaliator is fucked.
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>>156862928
The Retaliator "needs" 7 crew like the Vanguard "needs" 3.
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>>156862928
Because instead of just making a normal space game, they're actually focused on selling ship concepts. The problem is that they haven't tested these concepts until they've built them.
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>>156862169
You're fucking stupid if you actually think the Retaliator torps are the size of a Gladiator. I own a Gladiator and I once had a Retaliator. YOU are the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. The torps are large, but they aren't even close to being the size of a Gladiator. Note: the gladiator is similar in dimensions to the SH. The torps are not 24 meters long.
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>>156861618
> this is so fucking arcade like, fucking shit system
Ever heard of the Panama canal ? Or the Suez Canal ? Or just any plain river ?
Sometime you simply can't go everywhere with big ship. Hope you learned something.

your post was probably troll, but thanks to you nobody else have to look stupid asking that

>>156861785
>>FTL
>>cowboy bebop
>what.
Moving between Earth and Jupiter in less than an hour require FTL yes. Cowboy Bebop may not have a credible magic but that's still FTL.
For those interested they describe the idea as if reality was a cinema reel and you where moving in the black interstice.
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newbro here, is this thread always so baitastic?

to me it seems like you folks spend more time trying to trigger one another than having any kind of actual discussion
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>>156863169
>newbro here

It shows, friend.
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>>156863169
Fuck off, Autist
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>>156862986
Ok fool, go ahead and fly a retaliator without: 5 turret operators and some "mechanic" shit that CIG gets aroused off of. You can fly it with a single person and drop the torpedoes with that single person, but would you really want to leave the turret seats empty? They're absolutely garbage for defense, but they're all you have as a last line. No pilot guns, no regular missiles, maneuvers like shit. Unlike the retaliator, the gladiator turret can be slaved, it has lots of regular missiles (or rocket pods), and normal forward weaponry.

I used "needs" as a basis for maximum effectiveness of a ship, not true requirements for it to simply take off and fly.
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>>156863169
Early-access game amplify it a lot. There isn't just bait comparing game, there's bait comparing what the games will (not) be.

I just wish most people at least forced the baiter to grab their own hook.

We don't talk much about the Genesis
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>>156863403
The genesis is a transport ship. Not very remarkable at all.
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>>156862401
>>156862586
>>156862682
Nah it's pretty much a rip off of Gundam, more than a Star Destroyer.
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>>156863386
Nobody's saying you can't slave the Retaliator guns.

Nobody's saying you can't automate turrets.

If the turrets are so shitty and the only thing you need to do is dump torpedoes and run, and all you need is one person to do that, sounds fine to me!
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>>156863169
leave nigger

>>156862986
I don't think he meant it that way anon. You could say a Frigate only requires a guy to sit in the pilot seat, but we know that wouldn't be a practicality for what should be obvious reasons.
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>>156863554
>leave nigger

Why?
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>>156863554
He's implying that the Retaliator needs a full crew to be effective and do its job, which entirely remains to be seen.
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>>156863523
>rip off

So many space ship vehicles have been made in so many unimportant shows or whatever that it's laughable to say they're ripping off of someone for having similarities to some random vehicle from literally no-where that nobody cares or even knew about. Also, they look almost nothing alike aside from the general shape of the ship, which is unsurprising for space ship designs in general.
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>>156863169
Theres not a whole lot to talk about

There isnt much to do in the game as it is, and any conversation about what will or can be ingame is speculative or opinion based

dont expect any serious conversation about the game here for another 6 months or so
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>>156863775
>dont expect any serious conversation about the game here for another 6 months or so

guess I'll come back then
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>>156863775
>expecting serious conversations
>here

Anon in 6 months time the main discussion here will be who's the BEST GIRL in SQ42 and why Chris is an evil Waifu Killer of sacred best girls
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>>156863063
>Ever heard of the Panama canal ? Or the Suez Canal ? Or just any plain river ?

it is in
>space

kill yourself, jumppoints my arse
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>>156863552
>Nobody's saying you can't slave the Retaliator guns.

Other than CIG wanting manned turrets to stay in the game? If every turret can just be automated, everyone will automate them and effectively make manned turrets pointless, which CIG will not allow because they're autistic.

>Nobody's saying you can't automate turrets.
Other than CIG wanting manned turrets to stay in the game? Only a select few turrets in SC can be slaved to the pilot seat, like the SH.

>If the turrets are so shitty and the only thing you need to do is dump torpedoes and run, and all you need is one person to do that, sounds fine to me!

I do not believe you're following the discussion. If you attacked some capital ship, which will no doubt have a fighter escort, your retaliator will not survive because it's slow and has bad defense, even if every single possible seat on the ship is full. Just dumping your torpedoes does not guarantee success for wanting to destroy a ship. Gladiators can stay in the fight after dropping torps to make sure the job is done, and each cost less and have a higher variety of weaponry to use than a few torpedoes and leave. From your post I'm getting the impression you've never played the alpha or really even know anything about SC as a whole. These are all things that were discussed to death over the last few years.
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>>156864221
>Only a select few turrets in SC can be slaved to the pilot seat, like the SH.

No that's straight up bullshit. They've said multiple times that all turrets can either be manned by NPCs or AI programs.

Get fucked.
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>>156864221
>yfw there is a giant "automated turret" on the front of the Polaris
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>All you want is the cutter but you end up with an anaconda halfway along the grind.
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I have to say that Jump gate size sound like an excellent idea to make sure many ship size are useful

Even small explorer spaceship get useful if you can't jump everywhere with a Carrack.

I can already see clan putting aside their super sized battleship for a swarm of guerilla fighter, or going the long road with huge powerful ship if they detected their enemy can't afford to match them.
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not that anon but

>>156864293
>They've said

but but they have said. People getting tired of your cultism and promises.

They already reduced speeds to buff manned turrets and I have read that the cutlass turrets was once slaved to pilot and now not anymore. Great changes
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>>156864724
Accep it, destiny has given you it. Now it's time to make it into a Mineconda
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>>156864764
i messed up, i meant to say clipper
which makes it even worse
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>you can't automate manned turrets
>you're misinformed; devs say here that you could
>c-cultist!
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>>156864293
>NPCs

you retard. "manned turrets" does not imply you need a literal person in there. NPC or real person, it requires some kind of character. For the retaliator, assuming you use all NPCs for maximum effectiveness, that's 5 or 6 NPCs you're paying out of the ass for.

Bottom line, the retaliator is obsolete.

>>156864376
>yfw all other 5 or 6 aren't
:^)
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>>156864740
yup, sounds exactly like an arcade game and not MMO

there better solutions than jump gates
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>Massive formations of these spacecraft running long-range strike missions is not an uncommon sight around the fringes of the empire. With a distinctive elongated silhouette that is dotted with turrets and carrying a massive bomb load, the Retaliator is an effective symbol of Imperial might. As such, they are the frequent centerpiece of Space Force recruiting posters. Retaliators are ground-based, with all but the largest carriers unable to operate them effectively. Heavily modified Retaliators are becoming commonplace on the civilian market as the design ages and earlier production runs are sold off en-masse. Outfitted to carry cargo instead of antimatter bombs and with the waist turret positions typically swapped for makeshift living quarters, they make a good medium freighter or a basic explorer. Some have even been converted into long-hop passenger spacecraft!

>Retaliator turrets turned into small NEET appartments
>seat pullet our, replaced with comfyking armchair and love pillows
>doritto packets stuffed behind Misc MiniFridgelancer
>wake up to the stars through the window each day
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>>156865120
If 2 of them are (one of which isn't even in the pilots FOV so can't even go the "i-its a gimbal" route) it implies that the technology is there.

If the tech is there, no reasonable explanation of why they all can't be automated.
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>>156855556
>when did this happen?

>>156853419
>>156801757
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>>156864724
>>156864764
>>156864938
>/edg/ refugees thinking they're relevant anymore

el oh el. Maybe if you didn't have an utterly dead game with no foreseeable future you could be part of us. Your game releases without what they said it would, they put it behind an additional paywal, fucked their original backers, sold out to Xbox, didn't fix the games glaring issues by pandering to forumdads, and then when they had their YUGE update, it added absolutely nothing, and gamescom didn't help at all.

>>156865323
The "reasonable explanation" bit is from CIG. They want manned turrets to be in SC. They're adamant about having manned turrets be a thing, but allowing literally every single manned turret to just be automated would go against their stances. You would end up with one man armies. Why have manned turrets when you don't have to pay for NPCs and just have them all be auto turrets?

look, I'm not saying manned turrets are a good idea. I think this shit is stupid, but this is what CIG has been saying for years now. And, if this is what they stick with, it wouldn't help the retaliator be useful for reasons in posts above that I don't feel like re-explaining.
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>>156859787
Don't spend UEC

Just use REC for guns. They keep rebalancing everything so what's good today can be shit tommorrow (mantis, omnisky)
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>>156864742
>>156865120
>>156865219
Could you like stop?
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>>156865219
>Sounds like an arcade game

Not him, but what is wrong with jump gates?
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>>156865323
no reasonable explanation why they all arent automated from start already when the technology is there :^)
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>>156865646
>you

I only made one of those posts, friend. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a samefag
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>>156865623
Auto turrets would have a slot taken up with the targeting computer or similar hardware, much like has already been mentioned multiple times.
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>>156865645
>Don't spend UEC
I won't, until the final shop is locked down and we have a better idea about balance.

I just don't want to end up missing unlimited insurance from the shop and have to keep re-buying stuff all the time in-game. You know?
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>>156865671
Cost, lower size guns on automated turrets.

Same shit as to why all ships don't all come with their biggest power plant or shield stock, fagboy.
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>>156865847
ok. If you don't like it, leave.
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>>156865847
What this guy said. There's something seriously wrong with some of you.
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>>156865847
Can't hear you on that high horse
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>>156865671
bet we'll be able to fit automated turrets instead of normal ones and having to pay for ai crew but it's going to cost much more
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>>156865847
NORMIE FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>156865738
Learn English, friend.
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>>156864160
If you just want to travel through space you're okay. If you actually want to get to another planet this year you need a jump point.
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>>156865912
No I think i'll stay and continue to make fun of you

>>156865924
Hey man I'm not the one talking about how turrets could possibly work months if not years from now.
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>>156865658
denying content/places to people because their ship is slighty bigger. So in some places you are going to see only SH, Sabers and CutlassB because they are the top small sized ships. Sounds like a boring arcade limitation
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>>156865997
REEEEEE STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS
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>>156866034
>Denying content/places to people

Oh, nevermind nothing is wrong with them.
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>>156866034
>denying content/places to people

Is something that literally every MMO ever does
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>>156861572
That was mentioned passingly in a lore article

The gladiator is a carrier based torpedo bomber who's primary role is to torpedo other capital

Remember: WWII in space
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>>156863063
shortest distance between the earth and jupiter is 33 light minutes.
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>>156865847
but manned turrets are already in and SHIT
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>>156865240
>wake me up inside before you go go
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>>156865912
>>156865924
>>156865942
>I spend my money on picture files
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>>156864003
well the ICC probe girl is already confirmed to be a 1-shot character made to be the voice of ICC probe, so thats out of the question
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>>156866137
In WoW and Archeage you could go everywhere with top level and maxed gear, sorry kiddo
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>>156866409
bigger ships can go anywhere in the universe but sometimes have to take a longer route
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>>156866354
(You)
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>>156866409
>In WoW and Archeage you could go everywhere with top level and maxed gear

Not without other people you can't and even then there's content exclusive to classes and factions

So yeah, all MMOs deny content to players. That's part of game mechanics that keep you playing. Do X to achieve Y.
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Can we just go back to making fun of the people on the RSI forum?

This back and forth autism is boring as all fuck.
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Will CIG ever make a capital ship that doesn't look like complete ass?
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>>156867063
post some and we will discuss it. I no longer go to those places.
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>>156867082
you don't like ass?
are you gay boi?
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>>156867223
CIG capital ships look like scragly old man ass

No one likes that
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>>156867332
I love both the Bengal and the Retribution.

Fuck you.
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>>156867063
How do the forum tards feel about the horrible looks of the polaris?
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>>156866550
>>156866550
according to this map you cannot jump to some system with big ships

it looks like a small limitation but it still sucks somehow and thats coming from someone who probably never will have such big ships
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>>156867130
>>156867437
Fine I'll go look.

I hate all of you.
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>>156867425
The Bengal wasn't made by CIG, that was outsourced

Agree though that it's the only decent looking one
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>>156867534
>that was outsourced

Oh? So who drew up the original concept?
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>>156865323
What's that ED cheese wedge doing in my SC?
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>>156867625
It's a refugee
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Clearly the pleasure yacht is the superior ship here.
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>>156867617
Turbulent I think
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>>156867698
and takes away our torpedoes
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>>156867851
>Turbulent

Does not do ship concepts. Try again.
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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/348834/polaris-needs-a-buff

Of course it does.

Maybe you lot aren't so bad after all.
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>>156867916
CGbot?
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Now this guy is mad that CIG 'ignored' his forum poll about what the Polaris should be and now it's ruined forever
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CIG offer discount on Polaris. Greedy bastards.
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>>156868329
>Hundreds of people voted in my poll and decided for the other million that this is how it should be
>Why haven't you done what we want? REEE
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>>156868428
You're not very good at this. Leave the forum trawling to others bro.
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>>156868428
fucking jews
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>>156868329
It's like what happened to the ED lads
It's even a literal dad ffs
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>>156868329
>ree why isn't CIG taking 0.03% of the community saying something as gospel
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>>156868959
poor guy
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>>156868329
>Bitching that they stuck something as incredibly handy as a hanger/repair bay for a full size ship into the Polaris.

Wow... They apparently wanted the most useless ship possible
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>>156857948
>giving the community what they ask for is always good
hey, anyone seen /edg/ lately?
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>>156860406
I thought we all agreed long ago the Carrack was the Bebop. It has the top landing pad, similar lines and multiple parasite craft.
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>>156869587

Apparently they think every single space station and planetside dock ever made has docking facilities for capital ships.
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>>156869725
This. It sounds nice on paper listening to the community but in practice it generally just makes games worse. There are very few exceptions in which the developer would benefit from listening to the community, such as PIGgy
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What ship is the best to put in the back of the Polaris, and why is it the Cutlass?

Ships that'll fit:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships?sort=store&search=&itemType=ships&storefront=pledge&type=&mass=&length=20,%2030&maxcrew=&msrp=&
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>>156869946
Is the Polaris still the military equivalent to the Carrack?
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>>156867504
>no access to most of the vanduul systems
then how do we know they exist? or are they blockaded by the UEE or something so there's just no "open" jump points to them
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>>156870656
...or is the Carrack the civilian version of the Polaris?
The world may never know.
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>>156870410
>Cutlass Blue

Does anyone still have one of those?
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>>156870410
I wonder if they will have some arbitrary thing preventing you from sticking two or three m50s in a bay large enough for a cutlass.
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>>156870410
Why would you not ideally have a hornet or sabre in it?
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>>156870656
Polaris can hold a fullsized fighter and the side ramps (pic related) has a ramp + 216 cargo units suggest you might also be able to fit a Rover or atleast a couple Dragonflies inside.

It's basically a non-exploration Carrack made to MURDER rather than discovery
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>>156870894
With the new flight changes, larger shields would be extremely vital, so yes.

And I suspect there's quite a few people sitting on Taurus to cutlass blue CCUs
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>>156868329
>60% wanted no hangar at all
>60% wanted something completely contrary to the only reason they made the Polaris in the first place; to fill the old Idris role
>60% (at least) of the community is retarded
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>>156871035
Because I want a ferry vessel to transport crew back and fourth when the Polaris is either too big or costs too much to dock, as well as boarding actions
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>>156859992
You can buy insurance for weapons and modules just like you can buy insurance for ships.
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>>156871180
The people who voted probably have Idrises :^)
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>>156871324
I don't want to pay insurance.
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>>156871069
>Polaris can hold a fullsized fighter
Why though? They can warp on their own.It would be more useful if you can fit couple in of snubfighters or even better multiple fighter drones.
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>>156871069
>Half a Caterpillar's cargo space
>4x a freelancer's cargo space

Hot damn
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>>156870656
it's even more Bebop than I remember, we're not gonna get closer I don't think.
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>>156871069
>28 torpedoes
>under $700 for subscribers
>has 7 turrets
>a fighter bay
>cargo

>tali can only carry 8 torpedoes
>costs like $360~ with the 2 bomb bay upgrades

LOL
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>>156871649
Because when you're deep in Vanduul Space it's nice to have a portable shipyard that refuel and repair fighters that can also fight?
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>>156871764
Tali with both bomber modules is $275, $150 for the base hull. What are you implying anon?
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>>156871764
The Polaris is a Nuke Sub, the Retaliator is a torpedo boat. What do people not understand about this?
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>>156871923
>What are you implying anon?
That the prices as well as the ship design in this game are utterly garbage.
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>>156871986
>What do people not understand about this?
Why anyone would bother with a crappy 8 torp ship when they could have 28 and more gunners, cargo and launch a fighter.
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>>156871649
I'm guessing fuel for "carrier based fighters" like the hornet can run out pretty fast
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>>156871986
Thats a terrible analogy that doesn't even make sense.
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>>156872098
Because an Org can field more than one Retaliator for every Polaris it can afford?
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>>156872243
So it can send 16 torpedoes in 2 talis?

Cool, a Polaris can send 28 in 1, plus its other benefits.

What is your argument?
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>>156871991
>large and slower corvette skirmisher is a better choice than a smaller and faster bomber used in swarm tactics

What part of this do you not understand? You choose the ship that's better for you. If you're going to be running a Military Bomber you'll most likely be targeting Corvettes and using your superior speed and agility in a Retaliator compared to CapShip to torp it.
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>>156871713
>caterpillar has 8x the cargo space of a freelancer
evil twin my ass
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>>156872363
>If you're going to be running a Military Bomber you'll most likely be targeting Corvettes and using your superior speed and agility in a Retaliator compared to CapShip to torp it.
And your 8 torps won't do anything to it. Then you have to warp away for 20 minutes to the nearest starbase to re-arm and re-fuel.
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>>156872381
That's ancient information
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>>156871986
>those flapping little winglets
for what purpose
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>>156870725
>blockaded by the UEE
>unstable
>super sekrit
>the vanduul know their location but we don't

take your pick
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>>156872098
Size, weight, cost, visibility, mobility.
More than likely Retaliators will be the ships out to hunt and kill larger more expensive ships like a Polaris and Idris.
You know. Kinda like what a torpedo boat WAS designed to do. Before they were replaced by guided missiles and fighter/bomber aircraft.
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>>156872332
An Idris has even more, rendering the Polaris useless :(
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>>156872538
>a torpedo boat WAS designed to
Yep
>Before they were replaced
Too bad you just invalidated your post.

>>156872575
>An Idris has even more
Prove it. Unless it has twice the firepower / torpedoes / cargo space / fighters, you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>156872474
muh atmospheric flight mode I guess
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Haven't played SC in a while. Any major changes since January? Last time I played, I still had issues trying to use my joystick/pedals/throttle via USB. Worked most of the time, but not always.

Only ship I have is the Avenger Stalker. Has it seen any major changes?
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>>156872575
Hell, I'm sure the Javelin has even more, plus 8 anti-ship turrets. Everyone who doesn't have a Javelin is fucking wasting their time right?
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>>156872871
>plus 8 anti-ship turrets.
So $2,500 for 1 turret more than a $750 ship?
Sounds like the Polaris has more value.
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>>156872780
Eh not much for us to play as usual, just shit to look at this Sunday and last gamescom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l-epO6oUHE
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>>156872871
False equivalency, my man
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>>156872663
>Too bad you just invalidated your post.
No, my mistake is in not making my position clear, I'm not defending the Retaliator, I'm agreeing that it's a little useless in the face of things like the Polaris, for the same job.
Only thing I can think of that makes it desirable is that it's cheaper than a Polaris, if you had a smaller group/org whatever.
>>
Will we get to keep items bought in Crusader in the final release? If yes then I'm going to grind the REC/aUEC stuff to buy all the space suits, armor and weapons.
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>>156873065
Hell no. Can you think of a single game that let you keep all the crap you got in the beta to carry over to the full game? I mean hell, the UEC that is promised with some pledge packages doesn't even show up yet.
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>>156873065
It will all be wiped before stuff you buy is permanent buddy.
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>>156872780
idk what version was current in January, have you played in Crusader? Grimhex would be new to you at the very least
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>>156873065
>>156873205
>>156873206
I heard when the beta comes out you willl actually be able to keep whatever you make and take it into the final release.
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>>156873419
Yeah, in the Beta. We're not in the Beta yet.
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>>156873065
you won't even get to keep that stuff into the next version.
>>156873419
correct. stuff is cheap as hell right now anyway, I did 4 ICC missions the other night and was set to get a new armor suit and an energy shotgun with money left over for a hat
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>>156873495
>>156873469
>>156873419
Will REC carry over in to beta, though?
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>>156873558
maybe. actually I don't think my REC has been wiped since before 2.0
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>>156873629
So basically, I save my REC now, wait for beta, buy all the stuff, and keep it in the 'verse?
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>>156873679
REC will only be for shit in Arena Commander.
No idea of when they'll separate it from the open universe.
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>>156873679
As soon as they say "You can keep everything you buy into release", you do that. There's no guarantee the Beta will be immune to wipes, they just said that's something their considering.
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>>156873679
REC 'purchases' are only rentals though. anything you get with REC is limited number of uses/spawns
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>all these fucking retards screaming about their hurt fee-fees because the polaris "invalidates" the retaliator
>people make entirely valid analogies to point out how their logic is idiotic
>"strawman! strawman! I don't understand the difference between analogies and strawmen so I'm gonna yell strawman!"
>yesss, magic word deployed, fee-fees protected
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>>156868329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax96DCF5ptU
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>>156870894
>his account isn't filled with hundreds of $0 CCUs
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>>156838373
The Bebop and the Carrack are the same thiiing
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>>156874762
If you listen to these faggots, all ships should be identical in abilities and price, otherwise it's p2w and ship with more missiles automatically invalidates any ship with less missiles.
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>>156875034
Like I said below that, unless we can modify the modular terminals on the bottom to house smaller ships, the Carrack lacks that functionality.
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>>156873847
I'm talking about aUEC, it seems to be that REC is consumable as aUEC in Crusader/Arc Corp.
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>>156872381
Catapillar is the evil twin of the hull c at this point.
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These retailator vs Polaris arguments are skipping the critical part about the retaliator being a terribly underpowered poorly designed piece of shit for a ship its size.

If the retaliator was a decent ship there would be more of an argument, but in it's current shape, I'd chose a harbinger for small jobs and a polaris for larger jobs everytime. Price be damned.
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>>156875207
It has a hangar that can fit a snub like a BRIGHT RED MERLIN inside, that comes out the top where there is actually a DECK YOU CAN WALK AROUND.
>>
>go to spectrum match
>hit people a lot
>get no kills
>5 minutes in
>no kills
>just a stupid little bleep indicator every time i hit someone's shields
>blurred screen just as bad as CoD jam shit
>ESC to menu
>Yes

AC PVP sucks.
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>>156875671
That I can agree with
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>>156875671
Nice hot opinions you have there, in a game with no capital ships and nothing to use torpedos for
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>>156875702
>One little merlin

Call me when you can fit three ships in there.
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woah new thread?
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>>156875840
There might be enough room for a grey ARGO too.
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>>156875730
yeah. it's true. it was pretty fun at some point but because of updates to the whole framework AC is pretty shit right now. it'll be fixed eventually but obviously it's not a high priority right now
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>>156874762
anon, you ARE the autist
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>>156877630
no u
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>>156875846
no, leave it ded
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>>156875846
New thread
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>>156877934
1v1 me
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New thread
>>156878126
>>156878126
>>156878126
>>156878126
>>156878126
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>>156875730
out of curiosity, is it just full of Sabres? they really need to have some range brackets, having ships that just straight up outclass others in the same arena is stupid.
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>>156879479
A few super hornets and a rare Vanguard. But yeah, mostly sabres
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