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Siegfried thread!

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Soon

I'm enjoying the meme bosses-side of the event

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Something's wrong with my newborn daughter

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>>156252209

Rate from hardest to easiest:

Scat > Herc > Hassan > Sumanai

>either get Buster chain or do no damage the fight

DW actually did it, they went and topped the RNG from the Lancer fight. The absolute mad men!

The birthday hat just makes the buster thing even more sad for sumanai.

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Two Seigi no Mikata enter the ring, only one leaves. Who will survive?

>>156252284
Sumanai > Hassan > Herc > Scat

>>156252284
For me it was
Hassan>Herk>Scat>Sumanai

>>156252284
Scat > Herc > Sumanai > Hassan

>>156252125
>that hat

THESE FUCKING DRAGONS WON'T STOP CRITTING

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>>156252243
Someone, somewhere ships this.

>>156252284
Sumanai > Herk > Hassan > Scat

>>156252284
Herc > Scat > Sumanai > Hassan

>>156252284
Herc > Sumanai NP-Style > Scat > Hassan

>>156252284
Sumanai>Herc>Scat>Hassan

>>156252284
Scat>Herk=Sumanai>Hassan

>>156252429
Sumatera is better

>>156252252
You making any extra?

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Tamamo!

I don't have any servants that outright removes buffs or ignores defense. How would a reduce defense buff help against siggy?

>>156252425
just put Mashu on the frontline with her buffs

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Pirate sluts finally took that fucker down

>>156252232
I want to make this boy my bride

>>156252557
He has 200% defense. You'd need to bring him under 100% before actually doing damage (outside of Buster Chains)

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Nobu a CUTE.

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>>156252526
Debatable. Different dynamics to the kind of relationship.

>>156252557
Grab your beefiest and most survivable berserkers than pull our you BBC's infront of Siegfried.

>>156252557
Just BBC his ass

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>>156252540

>Euryale and Arthuria do jackshit

So much for today MVP
>>156252620
How about that 2 Wyverns left?

>>156252284

Herc > Sumanai > Scat > Hassan

In terms of annoyance:

Hassan >>>> Scat > Herc > Sumanai

>>156252335
Who survived?

>>156252232
Something about this feels very wrong but very right.

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>bonus damage buffs reduces the effects of bonus defense
Last time I listen to you memesters

>>156252754
Siegfried. I had to seal up Emiyas HP and fire off another NP.

I got it
Bride Emiya Waver at the Frontline
Full Berserker back line or maybe with Nobu and KoGil as they take less damage
Will it work?

>>156252706
>not youre

I should try to shop it on that Smugnai pic.

>>156252887
>Full Berserker back line or maybe with Nobu and KoGil as they take less damage
Go with full Berserker back line.

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>>156252719
Pirates died the next turn, but Herk and my backup Orion cleaned them up afterwards

>>156252887
Seems good

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Rolling a 6th Carmilla upset me for more than it should've.

>>156252996
they are faggots for not having a saint graph for 4*

>>156252887

make sure to use at least your Bride and Waver NPs AND stun him manually if you don't get the stun to proc with waver

then switch to the berserker you want with the servant with the most cards at that moment and punish him hard before he clears the debuffs

>>156252828
>Memelles
Sasuga

I won. Since I don't have Redman or a strong Berzerker I jsut spammed Jack NP.
I teamed her with Tamano and a support Waver. Poison and NP down helped.

>>156252926
I'll try, but the Waver isn't mine and my top three berserkers are tamacat, shitcelot and Lu Bu

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Reminder to use Angry Manjew for the first NP shot

>>156253082

I mean reset and stun manually, you want those debuffs to last more

new lv 90 mission drops about the same amount of petals as the previous one, disappointing

>>156252429
>>156252698
what would sex with the lizard be like.

>LOL HOPE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE GOOD BERSERKERS

This fight is a load of shit.

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H-How

>>156252316
There wasn't a lot of RNG in the Lancer fights, Cu is just about guaranteed to spam dodge and Scathach starts doing it at low life/after Cu's dead at a rate high enough that you might as well deem it guaranteed.

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>>156253361
>Needing Berserkers

>>156253361
But I didn't use a single zerk

This is how I did it.

>Front is Kuro, Kintoki support (both damage CE), Waver (any CE, went with Iskander CE). Caster Liz in the back with Sakura CE/Kaleido.
>Wipe first two waves while charging NP of everyone
>When you get to last wave you switch Kuro with Liz
>Do a NP chain with order Waver, Kintoki, Liz
>Sumanai takes 2500 damage per turn from curses
>If you manage to get another Kintoki NP you're set
>Kuro cleans the dragons.

But damn, this >>156253207 is great.

>>156253361
I fucking love these event fights, the tears of poorfags are delicious.

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PSA for all Art-team masters

Da-Vinci's NP does ignore defense, and does ~4k( 6k if boosted) to Sumanai. If you have an Iri, Jeanne or Casko or similair etc setup you can basically grind him down.

She also has guts to survive in a clutch if you mistime his NP; Managed to get him after 40 turns. That makes her MVP for 2 matches in a row now.

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>>156253296
>tfw you need caster cookies and you staved off spamming yesterday's 40ap to get more medals for other class cookies

I want to die horribly.

>>156253378
kick gintoki to the last spot
get your party wiped out
Busterx3 with him

>>156253378
>Herakles's buster does almost 2k without buffs

>Took double waver and Kintoki with maxed black grail.
>With all the buffs he did 39k the first np plus stun
>Then charged the np again with double Waver crit skill and Kintoki's and did 19k

Jesus when will double Waver stop being the highest meme.

>>156253361
You either only need Kintoki/Cu Alter or Waver to make the whole thing easy.
Heck with a support Kintoki/Cu Alter it should be still easy as long as you're not retarded.

>>156253443
She can insta-kill him or what?

Man all the top tier Archer become useless in this

>>156253591
I basically did the same but with Waver / Eggplant to stall into getting him a 2nd NP

>>156253726
>top tier Archer
Those exist?

>>156253484
>tears of poorfags are delicious
It isn't because they don't have good servants, its because they're shit. I don't have any damage CEs so the only servant with boosted damage is support. I've still managed to beat every single one of these exhibition battles.

>>156253207
>use Angry Manjew
You're a funny man.

>>156253484
Poorfags and unluckyfags.

>>156253784
Gilga and Archuria.

>No EMIYA or Sakata Kintoki support

Am I fucked?

>tfw your husbando won't be this powerful

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>>156253698
She can NP spam and deal decent damage.

>>156253726
>what is Orion

>>156253784
Robin,Euryale

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Post your team that killed Sigfried

>>156252284
Sumanai still the hardest because of AOE NP, ive beat all of it without Event CE, herc is easy with arthuria archer

>>156253797
Hell, I bet it's still beatable even if your support doesn't have the damage CE, as long as you know what you're doing.

Only shit players will whine about the difficulty.

https://youtu.be/69iCnqnbtNw?t=5m14s
>No Medea Animation Revamp & All Enemies NP
>No SmugRedMan Animation Revamp,
>No Luvia
No Bazett,
No Meduseless Animation Revamp & NP Upgrade
No BASAKA Animation Revamp & NP Upgrade
No Single Target/Avalon King of Hungry(Saber), Lily's NP should have been a Single Target NP
No Leysritt
NO KOTOMINE KIREI! I CAN'T YOROKOBE LIKE THIS!!
No REGEND Animation Revamp
No Tohsaka
No Death Flight Dog even though there are already 4 fucking Cus in this game!(Oh wait, we already have Scath?) & Animation Revamp
No Sakura
NO EMIYA SHIROU!!
No King of Hungry Alter Revamp Animation FUCKING WHEN?
No Diarmuid Animation Revamp
Gil is Okay... Single Target NP Gil? WANT !!

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>tfw your favorite saber is easy mode because of how BBC's work.

H-he's still strong r-right guys.

>>156253873
>Orion
>only 300 damage

No

>>156253207
>double Angry Manjew
I want to see the dragon weenie get fucked

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Used two CS just because I don't wanna wait until Kintoki-support senpai notices me.

>tfw everyone on my friends list with a leveled red man or Kintoki haven't logged on in 2 weeks
Send help.

Hilarious that some of these fights make Lion King look weak and easy

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>dumb femalemaster posters

I don't get it,some guy said use BBC but then there>>156253378 and >>156253554 shit

Is his defense getting lower the longer the fight is?

>>156254058

>Arturia in her strongest possible form as a Divine Spirit isn't even as hard as a canonically strong mere Saber Siegfried

How embarrassing.

>>156254074
retard malemaster poster

>>156253504
Just take a Herk a put him in the last spot, he will kill Sieg in three turns.

>>156254096
200% def buff, bbc higher than 200% at last hit

>>156254096
Because that first pic wasn't from a BBC?

Daily reminder that according to the "story" of the event, these are all just (you)r servants going all out. Herc, Sieg, Scat, Cu, and whomever follows could have been at this tier for you all along.

>cu alter is good for this fight

is this a meme? he's hitting less than a hundred a hit for me

>>156254096
Oh no, if it did that might have actually been fun, it's a dev oversight

>>156254096
The "Bonus from Buster Chain" part of the damage formula isn't affected by enemy defense

>>156254253
Kintoki or Herc are better for this fight

>this fight is super easy if you have these specific limited servants and Waver

I swear to god some of you people are retarded.

>>156254150
But that's not Grand Saber Artoria

>>156254253
That's more than most of the NP anon

>>156254241
We always new that at least Siegfried, Herk and Hundred faces weren't the same as they actually are for gameplay reasons. Why is that new for you?

>>156254241
Gudao could never handle the mana consumption of God Hand and AoF.

>>156252284
Herc>Sumanai>Hassan>Scat

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>>156254241
If they are my servants why can't I just CS them into suicide?

>>156254318
No ones fault but your own for having shit luck

>>156254150
Reminder that if he was as he was in life and not as a servant he would balmung every turn

>>156254318
This fight is literally grab a Herk support and put him in last spot

Hassan fight was east as hell too

You could also just take a Jeanne Alter support and kill easily Herk in the first fight


The only difficult one was the Scat/Cu because of the dodge spamming.

>>156254365
>AoF
>mana consumption

Wait what?I thought Siegfried wasn't such a mana hog?

>>156254241
If they're all my servants why haven't I rolled any of them but Cu?

>>156252284
Hassan > Sumanai > Herc > Scat

Did Scat on my second try, with 1 damage CE.
Herc was a joke thanks to that as well. Sumanai needed luck and soft resets until Kintoki survived.

Hassan was hard.

Is LOZ better then bride CE for this fight?

>>156253967
Only thing from that I'd want is the excalibur lines from the arturia's, audio sounds better to me.

>>156254343
>Siegfried could've been the go-to servant for keeping your other servants alive if the gave him a Taunt+AoF.

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>Get Waver's NP off twice, stun procs both times
>Combined with battlesuit stun meant Sumanai never got to attack once
>clear dragons with Atlanta's NP and fully buffed Okita with black grail, Atlanta's and Scat's quick buff brought Sumanai down to ~11k in one turn
DAI SHORI
Never thought def ignore would be actually be that useful. This felt like the easiest match so far.

Jesus, this quest was bullshit. I hit him with Emiya's NP like four times and twice with Void's and I'm pretty sure he healed back the damage form one pair several times.

I ended up tossing Ruler Martha at him and using two CSs to keep her alive until she buster chained him to death.

The previous quests had gimmicks, but they were clear-cut and logical. This one's relied on a bit of arcane damage code formula crap.

>>156254318
But you only need waver, having a friends kintoki and your mashu.
Stall for waver np and kintoki np, pop both, pop kintoki np buff and use waver skills to max again and you win.

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>use Orion's NP
>attack+, male damage+
>0 damage

Can someone explain this to me? I'm clearly retarded.

>>156254461
He's almost as big a mana-hog as Karna and Herc, it's just Gordes had a supply of hormunculi to fuel his Sumanai.

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Holy fucking shit

>>156254461
All armor NPs, including AoF, take a massive amount of mana to manifest.

>>156254507
You're insane.

>>156254651
time for that autist to reach turn 9999

>>156254651
i dont think this guy can win especially when Sigfried can heal 2.5k every other turn

>>156254651
At this point, your only chance would be having Andersen start telling stories so depressing it make shim want to kill himself.

>>156254636
100% reduction to one million is the same as 100% reduction to twenty.

The only way to hurt Sumanai is stuff that bypasses defense or reduces his defense before attacking.

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Ok I found a cheese start. Do whatever you have to to reach sumanai and clear two dragons then put any damage you can on him, don't use any mc skills. Put support beef with bond ce all the way in the back. Make sure all your servants die before beef comes out and keep herc alive then you win. Simple as that.

>>156254747
Nip just wants to play infinitely, let him be.

1-3 sleep
4-6 LN
7-9 animu
0 study

>>156254651
>Sumanai can heal
He'll never finish before the event is over.

>>156254318
>You are a poorfag and retarded if you can't beat this mobage fight!
>git gud!

Ignore them.

>>156254607
I think you were meant to chip him down with ignore defense NPs, since his Armor of Fafnir gives him a demerit that makes you charge up NP a lot faster when hitting him and when getting hit by him.

If you have a Bride CE on your Emiya four UBWs should have killed him, my NP2 Emiya was doing about 20k damage per UBW with the CE.

>>156252284
This > Hassans > Herk > Scat
Scat & Cu went full retard, I want into the fight without dodge pierce and i still won on the first try.
Herk was a nice challenge for Jeanne Alter because I didn't have a Bride CE at that time
Hassans were extremely annoying and tedious, only won thanks to a Da Vinci support.
And I'm nowhere near close to beat Sumanai yet.

>>156254781
>beef
Herc. fucking auto correct on tablet, I missed this one.

This is a 100% victory strat as long as ALL YOUR SERVANTS DIE before Herc comes out. Sumanai will skip his turn every time herc guts back to life and he has a fuckton of guts with bond CE plus default mystic code and his dodge skill.

Herc pretty much 100 to 0'd Sumanai. I barely put any actual damage on him before herc came out.

>Supposed to be an ultra-hard fight that needs you to min-max your team for a chance
>is instead trivialized and made the easiest because he doesn't have instant-kill shenanigans or strong skills

It hurts a little bit, i was atleast hoping for him to be as hard as Herc.

>>156254651
...yeah this'll never end.

>we will never get a canon strength EMIYA, Medusa, Arturia, Karna, Arjuna, or Lancelot exhibition match

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>>156252232

>>156254960
Why bond ce?

>>156255084
It gives him 3 stacks of guts.

>>156255084
It boosts the power of friendship, well duh.

>>156255084
He meant the Herk Bond CE that gives him 3 guts

>>156252284
Scat > Hassan > Herc > Sumanai

>>156255084
Herc level 10 bond CE

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I'm bad at this game so I brought Orion, Emiya and Tamamo.

To my surprise, only Tamamo can deal damage from normal attacks, even with no event CE. Also, the only NP able to damage Sumanai is UBW.

huh

>>156255084
Herc bond CE gives him 3 guts. If herc is the only servant on the field that literally gives him 3 free turns of damage as like I said, sumanai will completely skip his turn as soon as herc hits 0, even if he has guts.

>>156254975
If he got his NP automatically refilled to full ala Mordred every turn it'd be better.

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>>156254651
>All the wasted AP

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>>156255065
>Instead of being a brat for her fathers attention she's now full on "If i kill you, i'll be the last person to hold you"
I can dig it.

>need buster chain to do damage
>Berserkers are the go to
>if you bring a healer it fucks up your buster cards

I really hate this fight.

>>156255084
Because nothing can beat the power of friendship

>>156255045

EMIYA could never take on multiple Servants at once and he's not holding anything back that would make him a good boss

Medusa would just be a one-trick pony who just selectively kills your Servants based on their mana stat but there's tons of great Servants with high mana who can fight her just fine

Arturia is pretty naff, we've gotten her as two Order bosses and one of them was a Divine Spirit, so having her 'at full strength' and harder than both bosses would just be stupid and insulting

Karna would be a good one

Arjuna would be an okay one

Lancelot? You mean the guy who isn't holding anything back?

>>156255240
Why would she be upset at Arturia anymore? Alter Mordred has all the qualities of a King, there would be no conflict between them.

Kalevala you faggot you said that kiyo doujin would be up, fuck are you doing?

Is Nero / Vlad / Hans a good poorfag arts team?

>>156255240
>"If i kill you, i'll be the last person to hold you"
That sounds like Proto-Mordred.

>>156255353
you don't get heart-eyed pupils and put on bridal gear without a slight obsession.

>all Orion attack do 0 fcking damage even with damage CE
>Raiko without damage CE could at least hit 3 digit damage
>Mashu without damage CE deal 1k damage at very least

Excuse me?

>>156255524
That's just her love for country manifesting. She's a good girl and a good king.

>>156255341
We haven't fight Arthuria with avalon

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>>156255319
nightingale, my dude

>manage to get some Berserkers past the crit-happy wyverns
>get shit cards, can't BBC
Fuck this fight

>>156255564
Pretty sure using a damage dealing NP on him gives him extra defense up

>not just winning this fight with Leonidas

Bit new, is there anything that alters target priority other than outright taunt? I feel like sometimes the enemy targets particular servants a lot but can't put a pattern to it.

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>>156255618
Considering what happened on the island when you put mode-red in charge she does alot of fun industrial stuff, focusing on effeciency and enjoyment.

I wonder if she might've been a good king, i mean she did put together the whole rebellion which does require a bit of Charisma and intelligence.

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Double Waver buff, plugsuit buff, and NP2 Emiya still barely took off 30k.

Sumanai is playing silly buggers. Emiya's bad, but I didn't expect it to be that bad.

If you're having trouble just use jack. She'll kill him in three NPs

>>156255738
Can't damage Siegfried at all.

>>156254541
>they give a taunt plus evade/invul to a 4* saber
>it's d'eon
Man if Siegfried had a taunt like George has he would have been so much better already

>>156255791
>NP with BBC chain

He can do it

>>156255768
>I wonder if she might've been a good king
She would be a lot better than Arturia at least.

>>156255738
>Lancer

He is dead

>>156255353
Since Alters get more autistic, would Mordred Alter loop all the way around back into a normal functioning person?

>>156255768
>I wonder if she might've been a good king, i mean she did put together the whole rebellion which does require a bit of Charisma and intelligence.

And while doing so, she called all her followers morons because even she realized following her was a terrible fucking idea in every way.

>>156255793
You could probably slap on Sanzou Taunt, Extend the number of turns he has the taunt up and add that "NP" up from Golden rule so you so you have a skill to "replace" without losing the original skill because then people would complain about him not having his Golden rule or something.

>>156255854
>Half damage against Sabers

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>5 or 8 UBW kills the Sumanai
Ok, that was fun if not a bit anti-climatic. He only has like 40k health or something.

>>156255913
No. She'd probably go even further and declare herself grand emperor of the world forever.

Fuck this.

>>156255045
For some reason theres this wierd idea of "full power EMIYA is the strongest servant" go around on occassion, but there's nothing to it. Your probably mixing in some idea of full power counter guardian, but that's also rubbish.

EMIYA is batman the servant, batman is always full power in order to just survive. He's not trading punches and destroying the justice League when he stops holding back. There's nothing to him holding back, he's only a danger when it comes to plotting and planning.

Archer is always going full power rationing his abilities and being sneaky since one hit from a decent servant might finish him. Archer was doing the best he could in fsn and got near one shot at least two or three times, and even when trying his hardest couldn't do much since he's a weaker hero.

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Davinci saves the day, gimmie fanarts of her anons

>>156255923
She hated her followers because they hated Arturia when they didn't deserve to.

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>>156255959
He'd be a bit "too" hard if he had something like 100K health.

>>156254241
>according to the "story" of the event, these are all just (you)r servants going all out

>this is what grail ascension could have been like with Sumanai getting a permanent def buff, Herc getting X guts and what not

I will never not be mad, DW.

>>156256012
>>156254781
>>156254960
just ask for a friend who has herc and his bond CE. will literally finish the fight by himself.

>>156256046
Does the Iri, Tamamo, Da Vinci dream team from yesterday work?

>>156255934
That would be great already, now that Emiya got one skill changed I hope they maybe can do that for Siegfried, golden rule is such a power creeped skill. Either that or give dragonslayer a buster buff and that think that georges does that turns enemies into dragons so it can be more useful. I can use him just fine with Poster Girl though and he was the one to kill Goddess Arthuria for me, I love my dragonboy

>>156255923
>she called all her followers morons because even she realized following her
Did she say this in Apoc or on Nasu's blog.

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>>156256046
There you go.

>>156256029
The reason Gil is called the strongest servant is simply because of GoB and UBW is a better version of the same thing. Emiya is literally the most broken servant of them all.

>>156256029
I agree with you.

please tell me how to defeat siegfried
HELP

>>156256029
While this is true, it is weird that Heaven's Feel Shirou can kill Saber Alter, who is a beefed up version of a by-all-in-universe-accounts a strong as shit servant, with just Archer's arm and techniques. How the fuck am I supposed to keep my type-moon power levels straight when shit like this happens?

>>156256231
Burst Chains and/or Berserkers

>>156256231
Kill him until he dies

https://aww.moe/ec24mi.png
kek

Has anyone tried Nightingale and/or Ibaraki? Really scared of wasting 1 AP no actually my time but I can't say that

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>>156255768
Metal house. Mode-tan is stupid.

>>156256117
I went with Waver, davinci and EMIYA. It worked really well. Nah, do not bring Iri because her NP gain is horrible and sumanai likes to spam that NP buff + HP heal so you want to kill this fucker as fast as possible.

>>156256165
Gimmie more, anon

God fucking damn it all to hell why does it have to be wyvern of all fucking things? There literally isn't a worse fodder enemy then these fucking cunts. All they do is crit all day, stupid cunts.

>>156256256
>How the fuck am I supposed to keep my type-moon power levels straight when shit like this happens?
It's simple.
Emiya>Gil>the rest.

>>156256231
VERG AVESTA

>swimsuit Martha was my mvp
>she literally tamed the dragonboy
Give me lewd femdom images of Martha and Siegfried

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Thread

>>156256296
They probably can do it, but they dont have dodge/guts like herk so they would have trouble

My Jeanne Alter does 0 dmg to him, no matter what I do. BBC is a meme

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>>156256392

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>>156256231
Don't fall for the divinity meme.

>>156256256

1) She was holding back her mana burst and Excalibur in order to make it a contest of swordsmanship rather than raw power
2) She was kicking his ass the entire time and he only barely won with the power of three pairs of Noble Phantasms combined with trickery, AKA Batmanning it with the one plan that could defeat her even though he couldn't win by either skill or strength
3) he didn't kill her, he failed and she hated him for getting so far but screwing up at the finish line

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>>156256175
>simply because of GoB and UBW is a better version of the same thing.
You're somewhat inncorrect there.

GoB Has both a higher conceptual rank on it's Spam, but it also has a lower cost to maintain and already has EVERYTHING in it, EMIYA needs to have atleast seen something that's a blade for him to project it, so he strictly has less versatility in his arsenal than Gil aswell, he can't pull out a giant "speed of thought" airship or a elixir that makes people younger.

He doesn't have AS many hax items in it since he's restricted to things he's seen so he might not have straight up have something that hard-counters his opponent Gil has.

tl;dr UBW beats out GoB in a straight fight but is worse in general use because of it's Higher cost, lower conceptual strength and lower versatility.

t. EMIYA fag who likes to over analyse fiction.

>>156255768
>iron shack
>fun

literally death

>>156256231
>>156254781
>>156254960
anon pls.

I posted this because I wanted to help people who have weak teams like me but no one who actually needs it sees it.

>>156256175
No, EMIYA can't back it up. Take away Gil's GoB, he's still got Enkidu, Ea, and pretty damn good stats, not to mention his clairvoyance and whatever else he's got that hasn't been revealed yet.
Take away UBW, and Emiya couldn't fight off the Servant equivalent of a toddler.

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>>156256392

>>156256498
So the Shirou who fought Gil probably has the biggest arsenal in UBW, not counting Emiya. Right?

>>156256309
>>156256502
She also built a Railway, Showers for effecient cleaning and a soup pot since it makes the most food fastest.

>>156256391
Don't have Manjew. Can I go Arash Ackbar on him?

>>156256486
How?

>>156256705
Nope. Won't deal shit.

>>156256705
That might be crazy enough to work if someone had a lvl 100 Arash

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>still no shirou servant

>>156256660
> soup pot since it makes the most food fastest

thanks for reminding me

she's a quality over quantity twat just like Gawain

>>156256464
Seems like its depend on servant,only few done damage so far while the other do jackshit 0 dmg even with crits

>>156256610
Yep. Since he's fighting GoB everything Gil throws out he can copy, so his aresnal is always equal to what Gil can/has used. but since it's faster it lets him slowly inch towards Gilgamesh and beat him in hand to hand since Gil honestly sucks at straight up dueling with weapons.

>>156256471
>>156256595
Martha-dono, please don't bully Siegfried he has had it hard enough as of late.

https://exhentai.org/g/981946/b15f151288/

Male master scum

So what gimmicks will the inevitable Medb and Gil have?

>>156256803
That's a good motto if you need to feed a large group of people though, and it's not like she's actually cooking it badly, Soup can be pretty delicious if made by someone who knows how too.

>>156256909
Where do people get the cutscenes from? Do you have to beat the 1 AP missions or the free quests?

>>156256545
>he's still got Enkidu
Tying up divine servants for a moment won't do him any good in a fight if that's all he can do.
>Ea
He never uses it.
>pretty damn good stats
A regular fucking human could overpower him. His stats are shit since he can't fight at all.
>not to mention his clairvoyance
That he also never uses.
>and whatever else he's got that hasn't been revealed yet
Personal abilities that he doesn't use are worthless.

GoB is the only thing good about him and UBW does everything it does better.

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>>156256894
>Chinese
>No penetration

>>156256725
I'd imagine the damage CE, stacked buffs, and the fact that Kintoki's NP ignores defense.

>>156256790
Who the fuck is EMIYA then if he is not Shirou?

>>156256296
Yeah can confirm, Ibaraki hits like a truck on him.

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>>156256894
>Ugly dude

Japan stop doing this

>>156256780
Well I have lvl90 Arash.
Doesn't work so well except for killing the Wyverns.

>>156256826
>, so his aresnal is always equal to what Gil can/has used.

His arsenal isn't even 1% can used. His arsenal is only equal to what gil spammed foe a few minutes.

Enkidu had to fight Gilgamesh for a few days straight to empty the vault of weapons.

>>156256937
bad food = poor moral = worse performance

>>156255768
Anon, the very first thing she wanted to build was a metallic suicide box.

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>>156256894
>malemaster face

>>156256790
This. EMIYA is not Shirou. I want Shirou.

>>156257003
>for a moment
It held berserker for a really long time and it was considered a feat of massive strength that he even managed to break free. Gil literally direct counters divine servants.

>>156257068
That's what i said, UBW's Firepower = GoB Firepower in a direct fight since the moment GoB uses something UBW shoots it back at a faster rate. The more of his Aresnal Gil uses against UBW the bigger UBW's Aresnal gets.

Think of it like one of those playground things, "i'm as strong as you are no matter what", now imagine this with weapon stock.

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>>156256894
>Fat ugly dude instead of any existing character design

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>>156256894
>character:Saber Lily

>sumanai finally has enough of all the bullying
>goes all out
>his fight is broken and pretty straight forward outside that
Poor guy

>>156256725
>>156257010
This. Okita also did 10k damage or so.

The Wyvern waves are what make this fight really bullshit. Not only do you have to rely on BBC RNG, but you have to get your Bersekers to the fight alive.

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>>156253903
and support kintoki

>>156257132
You're both underestimating it. It was supposed to be impossible to break at all if you have divinity. Iskandar with weaker divinity couldn't even get close.

Heracles only broke it since he's an equally impossible guy, who breaks what's possible.

>>156257003
It will never be better as EMIYA has to meticulously keep track of his mana reserves to make sure he doesn't put himself in a position he can't escape from.

He's versatile but must constantly be aware of his limits as a fairly new and weaker hero, I like him for that reason.

Also Enkidu still is a fairly durable chain.

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>Fluffy NP barely increases EMIYA's damage and Sieg just Disengages the next turn

Welp, this was a waste of 1 AP

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GAME'S DOWNLOADING SOMETHING

>focus on killing Siegfried
>the wyverns crit my shit

Fuck off

>>156257186
That's Guda after eating the Valentine's day chocos of all his servants.

Did anyone else get kicked out?

sleep tight servers

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place your bets

>>156257412
get rid of the wyverns before sumanai

>>156257281
sounds like pretty shit writing desu

>small game update

Oh shit

>>156257370
Yeah, it's downloading more armor for Sumanai.

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>no event CE
UN

>>156257521
They're fixing the Buster chain damage so it doesn't work no more.

>>156257462
100% victory with how guts works when it's the last servant.
>game updating
I wonder if they're fixing the buster thing

>>156257462
If you don't use the NP Cu wins

Delightworks removing the buster chain weakness as we speak?

▼ game fixes
Fixed a bug that action of the enemy Servant that appear in-part quest has become an unintended setting (10/2 Modify)
※ subject of quest will be following.
· Limited vent "Nero festival again ~ 2016 Autumn ~" [ultra-high degree of difficulty] fourth acting magic dragon Second Coming

>>156257576
Finished it just in time, then.

>>156257003
I love Shirou, but your just downplaying Gil too much here
>Tying up
The most powerful servant known? Demi god Heroes.
>Ea, never used
He uses it against very strong and/or respect ed enemies.
>A regular
Shirou's stats and skills is raised to servant levels while wielding projected weapons so Gil is actually fighting a servant level opponent that time.
>clairvoyance
Sha nagba imuru is not really meant to be uses in direct combat, it's main purpose is to provide Gil of all info about everything he sees in the world.
>personal
That's just assumptions, but I doubt Gil can show more abilities as a mere servant, he needs a better vessel to reach the power he had when he was alive.

>>156257462
Do or Die.
You kill him or he kills you next-turn.

>>156257462
>Guts from CE
>Guts skill
>Evasion comes off CD
If Sumanai had full health he might've had a chance

>>156257625
Just fuck my shit up

They're fixing something related the Sumanai's battle quest, but it doesn't specify what.

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>memed to death once again, and at 0 CS

Fucking Sumanai.

>>156257625
>Buster chain bug on Sumanai has been fixed
Nice job, DW

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He's still useful right guys?

>>156252284
Scat > Hassan > Sumanai > Herc

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>>156257625
>They fixed it.
On one hand, i'm happy that he's ultra-hard now
On other hand i haven't killed him while he's EZ buster bait.

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>>156257782
yfw they fixed him not using his np charge every other turn

>>156257863
>those buttwings

>>156257782
Well i guess there something with how some servants done 0 damage and some still can at least do 1k per hit

try buster chains now

>>156257714
Won't he NP then regular attack, burning through the guts then killing?
You can't stack guts effects either so he either BBCs for a kill or goes down like a sick dog.

>>156257843
My MVP. I'm really grateful that the guys I used for Sumanai's quest added me back really fast.

>>156257843
>not 10/10/10
TRASH.

Had to use 2 Seals to keep Martha up longer to kill him but I need those hearts more than I care about my pride about not using them.

>>156258000
I'm not made of void dust anon.

Should I bring Liz so she can just curse Siegfired to death?

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>>156257625
Those cheeky fuckers.

>>156257957
They're anal sex handles.

Captcha: STOP laugh

>>156257625
ayy

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>>156258081
Disengage senpai.
I'm pretty sure it removes curses

>>156257878
Hahaha that'd be hilarious. I hope you're right.

>>156257964
That's divinity for you.

>>156257878
With this buster shit going on I completely forgot about that.

>>156257971
He stops attacking. The way it'd work is
>Sumanai NP's
>Cu dies
>Cu guts
>Player turn
>Use Cu guts skill
>buster buster buster
>Sumanai attacks
>Cu dies
>Cu guts
>Use Cu evasion skill
>buster buster buster
Cuzilla can easily do 18k in two turns and he has more than two

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>>156257584
Yeah this saved my ass

What even is this bug of Buster chains you all are talking about? They added flat damage, that was the only way to beat defense up, it always was.
The only bug I can think is defense piercing NP not actually being defense piercing with over 100% damage reduction

>>156258081
whenever you put something on him, curse, poison, whatever, he removes it which heals himself for 2500 too.

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For that anon who was doing a drops count for the new missions. Here's my input.

30ap 3 Gold, 8 Silver, 8 Bronze - Berserkers Galore
40ap { Lv 60} 12 Gold and 5 Bronze - Shuten and Ibaraki Final Wave.

Did it with only Petals Drop CEs and White Rose.

>>156258181
Ah i see, then yeah he wins since he can go back to Guts then kill since arrows will only block the first to hits.

>>156258251
It seems the drops are the same as before. They just changed the enemies.

>>156258251
Do you still use your Valk account?

Please equip some Bride CEs, thanks.

>>156258081
Yes, Lancer Dragon is exactly what you need to bring to beat Saber Dragonslayer

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THANK YOU BASED EMIYA.

Holy shit Sumanai killed my Zhuge in the last turn but Emiya finished it cleanly.

>>156257971
Enemies stop attacking if they kill your last Servant on the field

Buster chains still work.

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>>156258407
well they do have conflicting ideals. it would only be natural for EMIYA to be the one to defeat him.

Man, sumanai is kicking my ass.

Do I just need to start shoving berserkers down his throat?

>>156258497
They should be seigi no mikata bros. I bet Siegfried even knows how to cook too

>>156258504
It seems you must ALWAYS start with a Buster non-NP card to make some damage.

If you start with a Buster NP card you're fucked and will only get zeros.

I already defeated Sumanai and I didn't know this kek.

>>156258504
Backline Berserkers, with Cuzilla waaay in the back. Hope he survives to be the only one left on your team then it's GG

>>156258668
No, Buster NP-BB still does damage.

>>156258351
Yeah i should've put Bride CE on Okita and Nobu.

Still working on getting the other Bride CEs.

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>>156258504
Show him your BBC anon.

>>156258597
They're kinda reverse in death, Both of them died because they helped people and where eventually killed because of it, but on their deathbed they had a different "resolve" after going to the throne, EMIYA got jaded and hated his choice but Siegfried swore he'd abide by his own justice and become a proper ally of justice.

>>156258668
And everyone else is just a way to get them there?

I've no idea what they changed.
Buster chains still work
Sieg NP charge is the same

so did they fix the buster bug? Is sumanai now impossible to beat without emiya? Who none on my friends list have?

>>156258796
I want to fug femSiegfried.

I have no idea what the fuck I need to do. I don't have any strong Berserkers or a Waver. I can't rely on just a single support when I have nothing niche to back it up.

>>156258504
Support berserker in the back. Kill the dragons then kill off all your servants except the support. Must have 3 buster cards, the more guts or evasion the better. Herc with his 10 bond CE does wonders.

>>156258825
yes. Every other servant is literally just the horses pulling the carriage and all need to fuck off after unraveling the great red carpet to the solo sumanai for berserker.

Based Jack and Emiya destroyed Sumanai. Easy ass fight.

>>156258842
The wyverns accompanying him will now cast instant death more often.

>>156258945
I always die with sumanai at half hp mostly due to Herk's last stand.

>>156258796

That's because Siegfried didn't sell his soul to Satan and get stuck murdering innocents for all of time and space. EMIYA had no regrets about his ideals prior to being mindbroken by eleventy-bajillion million years of pain and suffering throughout eleventy-bajillion million timelines.

>>156259028
>I did it with my poor meme team

Kinda glad I rolled Heracles, though.

And finally the 2nd 40AP drops

40ap { Lv 80} 17 Gold and 11 Silvers - Archers first wave, Medb and Lancer Unicorn, then Scath, Fion and Brock (Wow Celtic Lineup).

Slightly better than previous line up.

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20000 hours in paint

>died with Sieg at 697
I don't get it, you were my first Gold and I cherish you a lot.

>>156259280
Change the milk into dragonblood.

>>156259280
make him say 'sumanai' for maximum memeing

Are boners good civilization?

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>>156258890
Who doesn't.

>Exposed back that's sensitive
>Tail
>Horns to grab on
>Delicious dark skin
>AoF so you can be as rough as you want without actually hurting her.
>Shy about taking it from behind since it exposes her back

Who ignores Defense?

>>156258796
Siegfried is, much like everyone in Apocrypha, a degraded generic copypaste of an FSN character.

So he's Emiya, sans the whole exploration of what it means to be a hero, the maddening torture and sacrifice it entails, the dealing with Kobayashi Maru scenarios and basically anything that elevates the character beyond "so he's a typical righteous paladin dude and that's enough writing for today let's go get wasted." Same way Jeanne comes from the same character archetype as Arturia yet has absolutely fuck-all except the bare archetype itself.

Is the buster chain thing due to a coding error or was it a deliberate decision?

>>156259280
Lacks a "Fuck off, reddit."

>>156259520
umu

>>156259576
Every single character from Fate is derived from Saber.

>>156259520
Only retards would ignore that huge 200% defense on Sumanai, it's actually a serious matter and not something you should ignore.

>>156259596
It's flat damage.

Don't think too hard about it.

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He did it the absolute madman