/wtg/ - War Thunder General

bote cbt fucking when

>>155131536
SOON TRADEMARK

>>155131536
Japan tanks when

I want SPAAGs in plane matches
just like we have planes in tank matches

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when

>>155132030
what is this

>>155132130
>Me 262 A-1a/U1
>Single prototype with a total of six nose mounted guns, two 20 mm (0.787 in) MG 151/20 cannon, two 30 mm (1.181 in) MK 103 cannon, and two 30 mm (1.181 in) MK 108 cannon.

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when

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fucking when

Are there still any ww2 brit tanks left to fill the tree?

>>155131936
>SPAAG have am effective range of <2 km
>non-attacker planes aren't super close to on the ground because they don't have gimped render distances
>even the ones that are close to the ground won't be near you because plane maps are much, much bigger than tank maps
What do you expect to accomplish?

>>155132913
the Churchill AVRE

>>155132913
yes, there are quite lot of early tanks that still need to be added (mostly crusader and covenanter variants)

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>>155117957
Can someone tell me why, or am I really going to have to reinstall and hate myself for spending the time downloading it?

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>>155133303
reinstall and see for yourself friend

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>>155133303
Don't do it. Tanks is a broken game mode and everyone knows it.

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It sure was fun when it came out though

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>>155133459

>>155133607
Those were the fun days what happened

>>155133607
jesus how fucking old is that?

>>155133625
I thought this was a WW2 game?

>>155133772
It's always been interwar to early cold war. With this next patch we're hitting 1977, though, so everything's going to shit.

>>155132913
churchill crocodile and churchill flail.

>>155133797
>no lead markers
how

How do I use KT H in RB?

If I sit back and snipe(peak out of cover and hide) then other heavies easily snipe me or get flanked since my team is shit.

If I attack then I die easily since some niggers hide so well I can't even see them.

That fucking turret is shells magnet, so how do I use it to get more then two kills?

>>155133702
2014, May 11

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>>155133772
>WT
>WW2

l o l

>>155133607
It still is fun.

was this made by slavs

>>155133927
You teleport to 2013

>>155134124
Of course.

>>155134124
this what?

>>155134124
Yea. They're the only ones who care about historical period games like this.

Look what Sweden did to ww1

>>155134158
I would if that was possible.

>>155133303
Meh, tonks is what I mostly play m8, and I have fun doing so.
Then again, I jump from one abusive relationship to another, so there's that.

>tfw I helped force the ts address out of the OP
>tfw I rightly predicted that removing it would cut down on cancerposting
>tfw there hasn't been a real ts aspie chimpout in months
feels good DESU

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>>155133772
>I thought this was a WW2 game?

you fool

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?

>>155133772
>T54
>WW2

>>155134479
I kinda wish War Thunder would "split" into two games. One would end at the end of world war 2 with nothing that wasn't at least developed during the war, and the other would start where the world war 2 one ended. So it would have like Centurions and T-54s fighting, and work its way up. I guess there wouldn't really be enough for more than 3 tiers of that though.

>>155134643
It's for historically accurate balance tovarisch

>>155134705
>Raise BR of every post war tank
And it's fixed.

finally researched the f-2 sabre
>1.3 mil from being able to buy it )))

>>155134841
just convert gl )))

>>155134705
i wish war thunder would go full bullshit and have every single wunderwaffe and stalin drunk napkin drawing

>>155134826
>Dude, if you raise the bar of the ASU-57 you fix the game!

No. The game isn't your naziboo fantasy playground. Vehicle BRs should be based purely on penetration, armor, and mobility, in that order, without regard for player performance or the introduction date of the vehicle.

Should I play tank simulator battles or stick to RB if I am grinding something? Sim seems to net more RP (does anyone know by how much), but is practically dead. Also, on the Centurions in SB, what the hell is up with these sights? Were the optics really that offset?

>>155135773
Sim is shit for grinding because the queues are too long.

>>155134308
Well
That was nauseating

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>it's a MiG-3 has no problem turning with my E-3 because crew skils )))))))) episode

>>155136439
Shekel up, goy.

>>155135773
i'd say RB as you'll be able to get more rounds done then on SB due to queues

>>155134826
>>155135019
>>155135115
I mostly just want the post war shit to not take a year to grind.

why didnt the germans make a version of the stuka with retractable landing gear? whats the closest thing to a retractable stuka in the german tree?
¿ is breaking the landing gear worth it in RB and SB ?

>>155137545
>whats the closest thing to a retractable stuka in the german tree?
190 F-8

>>155137545
>why didnt the germans make a version of the stuka with retractable landing gear?

Probably because that would lengthen the build time and cost of the aircraft for an almost completely unnecessary benefit.

>>155137545
>why didnt the germans make a version of the stuka with retractable landing gear?
Ground attackers don't need to go fast, so the drag wasn't a huge issue, and more moving parts means more expensive, more maintenance, and more things that can break.

>whats the closest thing to a retractable stuka in the german tree?
Probably the duck.

>is breaking the landing gear worth it in RB and SB ?
No, because then you can't land when you're out of ammo.

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>Japanese tanks

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>Gepard
>Leo 1A1A1
>RaJaPa HOT
>Flak truck

Holy shit this patch is going to be undiluted German bias

>>155138460
Every patch is German bias.

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>>155138597

Go be a slavshit somewhere else

>>155137981
i can crash land without landing gear
and i dont know now but it used to reduce drag and improve the agility of the stuka quite a lot !
also i disagree with the statement that ground attackers dont need to go fast
they need to go fast if theres no air superiority
just look at the british "wooden bomber". it was a gorund attacker and it was formidably fast bombing deep within germany

>>155137545
>¿
build the wall

>>155137545

>why didnt the germans make a version of the stuka with retractable landing gear?

Simpler to build and more sturdy

The Ju 87 could take off from mud-ridden forward airfields where other aircraft failed

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Commie genocide when

>>155139151
>when
>implying you need a specific time to gas commies

>>155138658
>Slavshit

You are beyond hope if you think I'm a slav shitter with that sarcastic post.

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>>155139151
TOP KEK SUBHUMAN NAZIBOO!!!
Oh believe you me, us Slavs are ITCHING for a war with you. We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of soil that has running water, electricity, or petrol that isn't on fire, once our airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the boatniggers and other mongrel races first) would swoop in, raping your women, and killing EVERY nasziboo shit they see. When we're done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it

>>155138460
And somehow German teams still manage to lose all the time

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>>155139716
except slavs were itching for a war with my country
and they lost

>>155140583
it's a pasta, you shart
nice work on getting the second place at the vietnam war btw

>>155140849
i know it's a pasta you retard it's about australia going to war with america

>>155138674
The only reason to not have air superiority is because you're losing, desu.

>>155136439
>Turnfighting in a Bf109

wew

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how do i use this crew replacement shit

>>155142467
push =

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when?

>>155142528
its not bound and i cant find the option for it

>>155142742
Reminder that after years of saying they'd never add the B-36 because six engine bombers are never happening the most handheld nation in the game got a six engine bomber.

how long will it take me to grind from tier 1 to jets?

>>155143498
Do you have premium

>>155143498
Do you have premium?
Do you have a premium vehicle?
Do you plan on playing more than one nation?

It can be done in a few weeks if you're not shit and goy up.

>>155142467
left alt enables mouse cursor

or just rebind the button

>>155143754
>>155143790
no premium.
no premium vehicle (except Thatch's Buffalo.)
in practice yes, but for the purposes of answering the question no. (just curious as to what the min. time you could reasonably do it in would be.)

>>155144107
2 months if no premium.
Goy up )))

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>start match
>t54/47 doesnt cost 310SP
>leave

who else /killing the game/ here?

>>155142134
>implying the E-4 can't outmaneuver almost anything even Spitfires if used right

>>155144329
>E4 can outmaneuver Spitifire with landing flaps

>>155144228
how much does it cost?

>>155144861
if a medium tank is cheaper than 310SP you are not toptier

>>155144861
320

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>tfw soon

>>155145156
jokes on you, after you finish grinding there's more grinding

>frontal aspect attack in an SBD-3
>killed enemy in seconds
>any aspect attack in a P-400, hurricane, etc.
>enemy flies away fine
HOW

>>155145156
>finish grinding f-2 sabre
>not enough lions to purchase and then you have to crew train too )))))))))))

>>155145156
>stock M3 sabre
>literally the worst top tier

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>>155145457
>Being poor
Lmao

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>>155145551
>wasting money on russian goy coins
rofl

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PHOTOREALISTIC

Is it even possible for HESH shells to bounce in real life?

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yeah, ok

>>155147739
only when it hits in stupid angles but usually no its just gaijin bs again

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>superpershing has the same BR as the kt-h, caern and is2/44

friendly reminder that non-clapper bias is constant and sharp

>>155147809
A likely victory for the red team, but a real turkey shoot for the blue team since it's likely a lot of reds will just sit in that little area while blue gets several treelines to pop them from.

>>155147809
capture points are actually different when you spawn in

>>155147809

It shows the spawns there but the actual staging area is much smaller, with the spawns being alright. Also, just because it shows blue doesn't mean you'll spawn there.

There is another domination configuration of that map that really fucking sucks for the team that's in the north. Because they have to go through some really fucking rough terrain to get to their first cap point. It really sucks dick.

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>>155138460
If that text is a reflection in his glasses, why is it not backwards?

>>155147809
>Blue team gets to use a Road and drive across he country side in full speed

>Red team gets small constant hills offroad uphill adventure deluxe

t-29 is cancer, thats all.

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>>155149002

I have my methods.

In AB is there a damage bonus for attacking an enemy who hasn't noticed you yet?

This seems to be the only way to explain why sometimes enemies die instantly on me pulling the trigger, and other times soak up damage like I'm using pencils against an A-10

>>155149725
I wouldn't be surprised if more sustained shots somehow increases shell travel accuracy making you miss more

>trollsquad bring a Spitfire to a 9.0 match
>he kills 3 mig-17s

i've seen some shit

>>155147914
To be fair you can kill the caern and IS-2 from the front with 1 hit. Problems only begin when Germans start showing up.

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>>155150225

Never underestimate well-armed props in jet matches

The amount of times retards have died to my Stuka/Chaika/Spitfire is unsettling

>>155149341
show me where the T29 touched you

>>155150350
>battlefield gondola
thats not a battlefield tho

>>155150431
Probably anywhere on his tank with an instakill shell.

>>155150350
why is the little girl pregnant?

>>155150737
stop

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B-25/PBJ HVAR rockets fucking when?
B-25/PBJ torpedoes fucking when?
PBJ 1000lb bombs fucking when?

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))

>>155150737
such is life in the 17th century

meme bounces are kill

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/331271-changes-to-damagemodle/

>>155151226
?

how the fuck do i counter spitfires anyway?

>>155151580
>no more meme bounce for 88 on t-34 front
HOLY FUCK BASED

>>155151798
j-out when you get close to them

>>155151951
fucking tempting

while i'm at it, how come every time someone rams me, i die, and every time i ram someone, i die, but they never die from it?

>>155152024
the game's netcode is shit, same reason for all the sparking

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>>155151798
>>155152024
if they are above you, J out, there's not much you can do.

if you have the alt advantage boom and zoom them, don't ever turnfight.

Chieftain or Conqueror? I can research both right now, so what are the differences? I know that Chieftain has a much better reload, but other than that they seem equal.

>>155152194
have you ever seen ww2 footage nigger?

>>155151798
If they're non-griffon spits just outrun them and climb or run. If they're griffon spits hold j.

>>155152313
go for chief it has more pen is faster and costs less in RB + it has arty call in

>>155152407
+500 GE, well done )))))

>>155152456
The Conqueor doesn't have arty support? Why the fuck not?

>>155151798
Long term German pilot just playing British tier 1 here: You can't I understand now how amazing the spit is. It just does everything so well.

>>155152481
I'm not saying the game's netcode isn't bullshit

>>155152502
its a heavy tank

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>best plane in every nation is another nation's as a premium

>>155152313
Chiefchan costs less SP, has arty and has a slightly better gun.

Conqueror is a stopgap meme, don't go for that first.

>>155152774
la-9 isn't (yet)

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>>155152780
tfw

>>155132815
Thats pretty much the C series of tye Ta 152

Thing should also have the possibility to fit outer wing cannons

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>we're getting close to the '80s
>the A-10 was introduced in 1977

>>155153202
we /brrt/ now

>>155132815

I want those wing-mounted 108s just so I can meme on other planes no matter how wrong the lead angle is

>>155153559
>start shooting at the wrong angle
>your shells start getting closer and closer to them as they start to shit themselves

>>155153202
>Flying animals update
>A-10 added
>Su-25 added

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>>155153659
>>A-10 added
>>Su-25 added
I'd cum buckets

>>155153614

Leading with the MK 108 is hilarious in general

>Go in closer than 300m at least
>Pick a retardedly high angle
>Add a few degrees to that
>Shoot
>Instagib the enemy

Post Gepard kills

>>155153659
>animals
>thunderbolt II
Y-yeah?

>>155154115
>warthog

>ate 5 grams of the craziest shrooms ive had last night
>freaked the fuck out died multiple times in my head
>played war thunder today and have literally grinded the f-2 sabre and f-9f panther cause im too scared to leave my house
ez grind

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>We go full cold war
>Finally I can get my planefu

>>155154240
>The grind in this game is so horrible that the only way to manage is to do drugs
ohh kurwa

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>>155154249
>F-14 Tomcat
>introduced 1974
Holy fuck I need it

>>155154376
I was watching forrest gump and everyone looked like clay it was wild but then i got bad thoughts

>sea vixen shitter finally died

God that's a ugly fucking plane.

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For clueless fucks not in the dev servers.

Claps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLRXR9Styb8
Naziboos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S4tSK7QEYo
Bongs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO10iowPOPQ
Slavs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czV6lp5lydU
Weebs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfuW3-AnBBE

>buy the last T-54
and now im broke

>>155154519
That's fucking hot
are you gay now too? :3

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>this bridge can actually be destroyed

JUST

>>155155694
Yeah, now you just have to grind the disappointment that is the T-62.
still my tankfu though

>>155154497
1969 actually.

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Reminder that this was considered viable enough to be passed to development.

>>155155736
>teeb
not suprised

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>>155157038

>Nam shit
>He 100 still not added

>>155145551
>>155138460
>>155145551
+30GE

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is this or the kugel better as dedicated SPAA?

>>155158006
Kugel is literally better than most dedicated tanks

>>155158006

How is that even a question

>>155155840
>disappointment that is the T-62
what do you mean by this?
you have good tankfu taste

>We turn to ACE COMBAT when?

WHEN!?

>>155155840
APDSFS is getting buffed in 1.63

>>155158006
As a dedicated SPAA? yes more ammo and better HE shells as well as a faster turret traverse.

The kugel is the more practical vehicle though.

>>155159281
A gun that has good penetration, but it has a fuckawful reload speed that will get you killed a shit ton. Ammoracks Leopards 95% of the time you shoot them in the ammorack though.

>>155159750
>fuckawful reload speed
hmm..
I think i'll grind the SPAAGS open in waiting for the shilka

>>155159454
Oh?? How?

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Stuka without landing gear looks kinda aesthetic

>>155160034
see
>>155151580

>>155160034
this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yk0J9TV5KzW5pbYx8bUIRy0LQZxQ9-Mmb1zrbydN-ls/edit#

and this: >>155151580

Should I just take a bomb load when flying the vampire? Is there any point in trying to be competitive? Stick btw

>>155160628
Stock, fucking hell

>>155160474
like a german corsair

Is there a way to refund a premium tank?

>>155161071
nope ))))

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http://www.4gamer.net/games/216/G021602/20160918054/

>DMM games, uhmm.... sounds familiar
>do quick google search
>mfw

nothing good can come out of this

>>155161118
not even if i bring up consumer rights etc?

>>155161258
no consumer rights in rossi (((((

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>>155161196
soon.....

What's the sideways depression on the Flakwagen?

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>japs are OP
>let me therefor dive for the first plane i can find a turnfight with it

why are clappers so retarded?

>>155161482
>>155161196
Don't get your hopes up for a WT x KC collaboration, DMM is just the publisher for WT in Japan and I doubt Gaijin cares about any of that shit.

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Why does the Conway exist? What was teeb thought process at the time?

>>155161960
"we need to put this cannon into service ASAP but we haven't designed a tank for it yet, let's just make a ghetto tank while we come up with a new design"

>>155161196
>This is why, every time two people to shoot down enemy aircraft, Mr. Kuramochi go take off one piece of clothing

>>155161960

They shat themselves when they saw the IS3 and slapped the biggest gun they could make onto whatever chassis they could get their hands on. It was a stop gap.

I love my Conqueror. Will the M103 be the same experience?

>>155162572
You mean being unable to kill anything while being BTFO in one hit? Yeah.

>>155162572
Is the conq experience the experience of having to grind for a tier 3 module then playing 1400 SL a pop for the only usable ammo combined with a broken armor model? If so, it's a lot like the M103 experience.

>>155162572
mostly yes, the M103 is pretty memey because of the rounded hull and turret, the 380mm pen HEAT is nice.

it also has a fatal weakspot in the turret ring and turret cheeks that gets penned by everything

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when

>>155163612
*target undamaged*
*hit*

>>155163612
>stage 2
Stage 1 would be better in game

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>just found an old $50 visa card someone gave me a year ago
>still valid

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Wew, should I do it?

>>155164273
wait for year premium?

>>155164273
there is a premium time sale in November, you can get 1 year for 7500 eagles

>>155133303
>Surface unit destroyed
Holy fuck how old is that webm??

>>155164489
Will Gaijin actually have a birthday sale tho this year? It seems like they are scaling back on Summer events each year.

>>155164273
Buy shared revenue skins.

>>155164273
B O A T S

>>155164910
I don't see why not

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A KV-2 just killed me by hitting this spot.

That is the final straw, uninstalled.

>>155165315
))))))))))))

>>155165315
I wish WT modeled Spall correctly. Right now it's like a bomb going off

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>>155165315
>152mm shell hits the roof of the tank
>omg why did I die, russian bias!

>>155165657
Tell me memelord, why doesn't a 120mm cannon one shot people anytime it penetrates a turret?

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>>155165448
I wish WT modeled bombs correctly, right now it's like a frag grenade going off.

>>155166554
blame the HE nerf

>>155166387
Less HE filler((((((

>>155166554
That sure looks like the bomb landed onto the tank judging by the crater and the giant hole in the bottom of the tank. This would kill in WT as well.

>>155166665
I should blame the lack of any explosion physics at all on the HE nerf?

>>155166798
Yes, you're dropping an HE filled bomb

why is the Pe-8 with a FAB-5000 allowed in GF? I just watched one kill 6 of my team spread in a forest.

>>155167036
Because bombs are nerfed to shit, the Pe-8 a fat slow target that can easily be shot down, and because he has to get super low alt for player tanks to even render.

>play on max video quality
>still miss kills because I shoot a visible enemy that happens to have an unrendering object in front

>page 9

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daily reminder

>>155169505
I so want to pen t32 turret with this

>>155169505
tbqh it doesn't matter if it has 400mm or 800mm of pen, if you get hit by an ATGM you're fucking dead no matter what.

>waiting time: 4 minutes
fuck

>>155170034
Nigga, it's just cast steel. Most t5 vehicles can pen it.

>>155170126
someone hasn't used SS.11s

>>155170459
Why aren't they shooting?

>>155171329

Why would they?

>>155171515
eenmies?

How do you fight in close quarters with German tier 4? Half of the maps are tiny industrial yards.

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>7.7 battle; loss
>come in third place on my team with a 6.7 and 6.0 tank

>>155169505
>Literally the same velocity as the Sturmpanzer

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>now in the timeframe, for service
>easily in the timeframe, for being built
>2 x BGM-71C ATGMs can fit the timeline
>630mm pen
>271m/s speed
>65m minimum distance
>3750 FUCKING METERS MAX DISTANCE

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when

>>155169505
ATGMs ruined this game high tier

>>155173128
>1979
Sorry, senpai, 2 years too late.

>drive german tanks
>have fun at least once per battle
>drive bong tanks
>never fun

Ah well, I don't need that swingfire anyway now that Germany will just have a better ATGM.

>>155173128
Most ATGMs in this game are 4km max range, so this would actually be kind of shit. :^)

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>>155173390

Oh no, it's almost like Wikipedia isn't a reliable source.

(The projects were completed for evaluation in 1976. Emerson Electric won and immediately entered production under "M903 M901 improved TOW vehicle (ITV).")

>>155173862

No idea how that extra M903 got in there.

>>155173735
>muh 250m :(

>>155173128
>65m minimum distance
what did he mean by this?

>>155174045

For when they implement minimum distances so ATGMs become less of a meme.

>>155174045
All ATGMs have a minimum distance IRL. It's the initial arming of the warhead and the missile entering the area where it can be properly optically controlled by the homies inside the tank.

>>155174167

TOW - 65m

HOT - 75m

Swingfire - 105m

3M7 Drakon - 300m Day (400m Night)
(Drakon's Night range is limited to 600m.)

SS.11 - 500m

>>155174108
They currently don't have them in game?

>>155174490

Have you never played end-game tanks?

IT-1s are running around shotgunning niggas at point blank.

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>>155174437
>SS.11 500m
>3M7 Drakon 300m

So basically this is why we'll never have minimum range in game?

>>155174671

The two noisiest groups on the forum would cry, so yeah. It'd make the IT-1 and Racketpanz utterly worthless innacity.

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>>155174437
What's the minimum range for the shillelagh? I know the aiming minimum range is 800m, but what's the warhead arming range?

>>155174950
>>155174886
>>155174671
Do we really want a game where you have to sit in a corner of the map just to get a kill.....????

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>tfw doing shit like this are the only things that are fun for me in this game anymore

>>155174950
730m which is why they carried HEAT ammo.

The warhead activates, but it doesn't even come into view until 730m out so they can't guide it until then.

>>155175049
>Implying this isn't what people already do.

ATGMs were a fucking mistake, but I'd rather not make them a kill-all meme device like they are currently. When it's working proper, there's not really any reason to touch the T-62 over the IT-1.

>>155174567
I don't even play tier IV often, that sounds awful.

>>155175212
>none in the straya skin
dropped desu

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>>155175454

>>155175382

Hey, we can make it worse.

You can't shoot the missile. The ammo racks almost never detonate. They can fire the missile unless both the missile and launcher are black. Either one being damaged doesn't cause a self-destruct like breeches do in RB.

Oh and the IT-1 and Racketn are both mechanically autoloaded, so killing crew won't slow it down and they can reload while on fire/extinguishing.

There's no escape from that hell.

>>155175824
I saw a video of someone testing ATGM damage model in RB. If the missile itself is black (apparently this usually requires 2 tank shells), it can't fire.

>>155176043

Oh, maybe that is the case. I've been IT-1 cancer and the only time I couldn't fire was a black missile and launcher at the same time. Both of them being ass-red was still in the killzone.

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The B25 is literally the coolest bomber out of the entire war.

>>155176418
>implying they're cooler than silverplates
They don't even have air conditioning, senpai.

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Where is the bias? I was promised bias.

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>>155176418
seriously this

there is no plane as versatile and badass as the b-25 mitchell

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>>155176919
It's in the German tree.

>>155176919
>p2w slavshit bush nigger crying about a no pen

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>>155177615
F-15E

>>155177813
Nigga, you can't put a tank gun in that.

>>155176418
Effectively?
Yeah the B-25 was fucking amazing, the cannon armed PBJ was lackluster IRL, but as a low tier tank buster it's pretty fucking cool?

Aesthetically? The Do-17 is pretty waifu tier

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>>155177885
I'm sure you could jury rig some tank cannon gunpods for the engine hardpoints.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/53c8nf/bushes_definetly_not_p2w/

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>>155177813
>>155178092
>he thinks some meme jet with meme missiles and cannons is better than a medium bomber converted to a fucking gunship strafer with a capacity to hold up to 14 .50 cals facing forward
>this is what turbinaboos really believe
memes aside you are rightbut the b-25 is still better :^)

>>155177920
>Aesthetically? The Do-17 is pretty waifu tier
nigga what?
this isn't aesthetic?

>>155147809
>Giant ass map
>Points are all clustered up

What's even the point of light tanks anymore.

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You can do pretty action filled commando shit with the B-25. How exciting it must have been to raid Weeb-airfields with a fleet of B-25s

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>>155177618

>i STILL don't have that premium and missed out on the two times it became available

I'm so mad about that. . .

>>155177920
>the cannon armed PBJ was lackluster IRL
>devastated cargo lanes and lightly armored destroyers

Reach the point where I'm gonna grind for a end game jet

which to grind for /wtg/, Sabre F2 or Hunter?

>>155179124
>had to be manually reloaded and had shittons of recoil
>could only put out 3 or 4 shots on a target and made it more vulnerable to AAA
>was disliked by crews and eventually replaced by 4 more .50 cals and HVAR rockets
besides, using the .50 cals to fuck over ship defense then skip bombing them is just as effective as using a meme cannon

>>155179408
>had to be manually reloaded
That's a benefit, retard. You can switch the appropriate shell for the situation.

>>155179689
>retard
no need to be so rude :(

>>155179398
German MiG-15bis, since it's the easiest to grind and the hardest to fly. (Hunters are OP)

>>155179398
Hunter > MiG-15bis = MiG-17 = F-2 Sabre > Panther > Fiddy Sabres > Cougar

>>155178998
Is there any difference between the boston and the brit havoc?

>>155180058

Hunter >= Sabre F2 > MiG-17 >= CL-13 > MiG-15bis >= Fiddy Sabres > everything else

>>155138460
should've lose the war

>>155180745
The CL-13 used to be better than the normal fiddy sabres, but it's been nerfed really hard. The best one is the jap one now.

>>155180976

is there even any difference

I was under the assumption it was an F-25 sabre with a jap skin

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was away couple of days

where all the dev server pics at ?

>>155181041
it has the better wing, slightly better turn time

>>155180976
>CL-13A
>no longer has historic additional power
>no longer has better wing
>M3s are dogshit now

))))))))))))))))))

>>155181423

>m3s
>shit

false

>>155181482
Compared to the F-2's revolver cannons or ADENs they are.

>>155181482
>>155181564
>t. shitters

>>155177813
can't operate from a carrier

>>155181482
I'd gladly take x2 MK108 with 120 rounds over M3s

>>155181784
I mean, only one PBJ was ever fitted with an arresting hook.

>>155181982
That doesn't mean they can't take off from it and just land elsewhere

>>155182161
yes it does

>>155183770
No, it doesn't. Go look up the Doolittle Raid.

>>155179689
It's not intrinsically a benefit you fucking retard, it's a lower velocity shell than the duck and has a horrid fire rate in comparison.

>>155185525
>a manual loader means the muzzle velocity is slower
Y-yeah?

I'll grant you that the gun itself on the duck is better, but if those were even I'd take the manual loading over the autoloading every time.

>>155187174
No you fucking retard it's a comparison between the fuck and pbj

>>155157751
>Heinkel fighters

>>155187390
Nobody brought up the duck until your right there, until then we were talking about only the PBJ.

>>155187174
>I'd take the manual loading over the autoloading every time
>preferring having to have a crew member dedicated to loading your meme gun when firing solely because you want to have control over what round you're using
besides, realistically in a mission, it's likely that a few planes in the squadron will be dedicated to specific targets and other planes with different 75mm rounds attack different targets
even then, it would not be impossible to make a system that autoloads a specific round on demand
and you seem to be ignoring the fact that manually loading limits the fire rate drastically compared to having a machine do it automatically
consider this: would you prefer having your plane's autocannons/machine guns be manually loaded solely for the purpose of letting you select which round to use at the cost of a ridiculously low rate of fire?

>>155187661
the duck has an automatically loaded 75mm cannon, that's why it's relevant to this discussion

>>155187708
>ridiculously low rate of fire?
just like tanks with manula loading have ridiculusly low rate of fire?

POST
GEPARD
KILLS

>>155187708
>realistically in a mission, it's likely that a few planes in the squadron will be dedicated to specific targets and other planes with different 75mm rounds attack different targets
No, realistically on a mission every plane in the formation is going to be firing on the same boat until the leader decides it's time to stop. https://youtu.be/cEek5IvGYKg?t=1m22s

How many people in the US own your planefu?
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/AcftRef_Inquiry.aspx

>>155151580
wtf I love gaijin now

>>155165657
>>155169505
>>155176919
>>155177618
+60GE

What's the smallest bomb that can kill light pillboxes?

>>155188810
100lb iirc? might be wrong

>teammate for some reason calls an airstrike on the point I'm going to cap
>I'm on an open top soviet AA, 2.3BR
>almost capped, both teams had just like 2000 tickets left
>an arty shell lands 3 meters away from me, simpsons two of my crew and that somehow kills me
>we lose a minute later

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>aradoshitting for lions in air rb
>rearming
>tempest rushing in for the vulch
>AAA kills him .9km away from me before he fires

>>155176919
>Thinking he can pen the MkVII
You're a fucking retard, Bench

>>155184385
They never DID though, retard

>>155191531
T-34-85 would pen though

>>155192581
Y-yeah!
Sure it would, buddy.

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>Play Hetzer
>Hide LFP behind bump on the ground
>T-34-85 comes from below so my plate gets some extra sloping
>Pens and instakills my crew

))))))))))

>want to try brit tree since i've maxed out americans
>crew constantly blacking out because absolutely stock crew
>go back to play americans

wew

>>155192971
iktf
and then people complain that you mostly playing one nation

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Let's do this famalamskis

>>155193548
>D-13 Dora
>Dora-13 Dora

>>155193670

Corrected it

Put A34 Comet there instead

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we Toyota soon