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Dueling Network/Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2307
Last thread: >>155003641
Beautiful Floodgates Edition

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.

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Useful Links:
Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/
OCG decklists:
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
https://ygorganization.com/category/decklists/ocg-decklist/weekly-ocg-decklist/
TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists
TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Structure Deck R: Machine Dragon Re-Volt (September 24th)
●OCG: Raging Tempest (October 8th)
●OCG: Booster SP: Fusion Enforcers (November 12)
●OCG: Dimension Box Limited Edition (November 26)

●TCG: Rivals of the Pharaoh (September 15)
●TCG: Legendary Decks II (October 7th)
●TCG: Structure Decks Yugi Muto and Seto Kaiba (October 21st)
●TCG: Invasion: Venom (November 4th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP.
● Read the cards.
● Lurk and read the archives.
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
● If you want to improve, netdeck and playtest constantly.
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Xth for Synchrons and Stardusts when
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>Yuri gets cucked out of spoilers in vjump by Sora and his toys.
such a shame.
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>>155078184
Konami hates synchro masturbation.
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>>155078153
My guess would be Excalibur.
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>>155078257
because he's using Ancient Gears now anon
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Post wasted art
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>>155078121
>>155078121
Fresh from the stove.
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Arc-V was a mistake

No wonder Konami is rushing the shit out of it
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I've got a deck that synchros, I've got a deck that memes, but I ain't got Construct life don't mean a thing
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I don't have any Sekrit Tek, so just take this.

>Machine Duplication on Reactor Dragon
>other Reactor Dragon can destroy it when attacking
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>>155078368
Not mad about that cause Ancient Gears are my favorite and he's going back to Predator Plants when he duels Yugo.
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>>155078406
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Xth4Dharc
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So why is jar of greed still at 3 while pot is banned if the rain that it costs nothing to play.

Please forgive my ignorance. I still use a GX era deck but want to get back
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>>155078406
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>>155078764
you have to wait a turn for jar to be of any use
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>>155078764
Pot is a +1 while jar is a +0 that you have to wait a turn for.
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>>155078406
Entire Cubic Archetype. So sad movie decks are cursed to never get support ever again.
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>>155078546
Whoever they have overseeing the anime they need to be fired and hanged. As for the game they are redeemable.
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>>155078184
Never, Konami hates Synchro more than they hate Pendulum.
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>>155078919
Konami is a bunch of fags then
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>>155078121
Nice Spacejew.
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>>155078642
The hell were they thinking when they made this card?
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>>155078642
>Ancient Egypt is an iconic aspect of YuGiOh
>Forever sidelined by Jewish Dolls and Spaceships

Extra deck Gravekeepers when
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>>155078708
>helping Goblin in his times of need
He's a good guy.
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>>155079009
Thanks.
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they were thinking that waiting 3 turns to summon a bunch of level 2 normals would be fine in an era without xyz
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Post Lara.
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>>155079220
But anon, that's free tributes for a Blue-eyes.
You can even summon not 1, but 2 Blue-eyes with that many tributes.
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>>155078406
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>no OPT
>can use Reload and Hand Destruction on Draw Phase, and it still count
>doesn't have to reveal all of the dark monster you draw
>only need to draw 1 dark monster to activates it's effect
It's a draw engine and graveyard set-up in one card.
Now if only there's a way to make this survive your opponent's turn.
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>>155078406
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>>155079950
>Don't open S/T removal
>Opponent opens this
>He's playing PKBA
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Am I the only one that really dislike shit like the new ancient gears and ABC?
it feels so uninspired, just slap unrestricted floating and blanket protection and call it a day?

why in the name of fuck the abc have no once per turn, they don't even have the restriction to targeting themselves for their searches/summons.
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>dude, what if we let him have a destroy effect that wasn't once per turn LMAO
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>>155080893
>Oh lets also have his summon condition tie into ammo for his effect
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>>155080893
no one can possibly be salty about dad at this day and age
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>>155080864
>abc have no once per turn
You mean, the pieces?
Is there even any good reason to put OPT there? They rarely use it more than once anyway.
>they don't even have the restriction to targeting themselves for their searches/summons
A have restriction.
B can search another B, but for literally no reason.
C can't even summon himself, because he's sent to grave.

>the new ancient gears
>unrestricted floating
>blanket protection
what.
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>>155081243
Well yeah, because its limited
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>>155078406
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>>155078995
Can't be helped when 5Ds was about to kill the YGO anime.
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>>155080893
Literally the same thing as this and nobody gives a shit, please stop complaining.
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How do you play x-sabers?
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>>155081576
>banish ammo to summon
>same thing
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>>155081660
very carefully
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>>155081576
>on card can only be used in electromagnet decks, a dead archetype
>the other can be splashed into any deck containing dark monsters
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>>155081243
No shit it's at 1. They brought it back in the shaddolll erra in the OCG to test the waters and it was broken as ever. They put it back to 1 as soon the very next list
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>>155081576
Fuck off back to pojo you utter retard.

>DUDE LITERALLY THE SAME!
>LITERALLY LMAO
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>>155081576
Kill yourself you fucking retard
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this is a japanese ogre
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>>155081660
Travel back in time about 7 years.
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>>155081490
>spark field could make this usable
is spark field the best possible support all gemini could have hoped for in their shitty existance?
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>>155082568
A ruling change to make them normal monsters in every zone would be the best buff they could get.
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>>155082568
My only gripe is that Spark Field still gets fucked up by TT/MST/CC and without it, Geminis can't really do anything.
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>>155082487
oh i see, they're THAT outdated
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>>155082368
This is a western ogre
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>>155082728
Just like Union Hangar.
Oh wait.
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>>155082627
>>155082728
>tfw spark field allows you to throw out a mini construct
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>>155082753
Pretty much. All they can do nowadays is loop Faultroll with Ptolemy. Saber Reflect is a fucking hilarious sack card and they can pull off some fun stuff with Miracle Synchro Fusion, but otherwise they just aged really badly with stuff like their consistency coming from powercreeped methods such destruction by battle and most of their synchros save for Hyunlei basically being vanillas except for very specific situations.
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>>155083119
Oh, poor Hyunlei
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>>155082925
But ABC is actually good, anon.
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>wish for a field spell version of superalloy beast
>it gets made
>it's ultra restrictive in what it does
t-thanks konami
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>>155083470
This. If it was a blanket spell Raptinus (who cares about completely obsoleting it anyway because it was always a shit card) then it would be even more amazing.

Not to say that Spark Field isn't already great, but
Gemini still needs a bit more to be decent.
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>>155081576
Literally kill yourself
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>>155081576
I will always be sad that Magnets are shit
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So, why hasn't based BLS had alternate artwork yet?
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>>155083119
>>155083287
dayum, that's too bad

and if only there's a generic way to summon hyunlei

also, is faultroll-ptolemy loop any good?
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>>155084697
Not good enough to be worth bothering with
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>>155084767
oh ok
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Where's the good Gilford the Lightning support
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>>155085036
That was a Joey card, right?
If so, absolutely none.
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>>155085036
what is there to support?
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>>155085036
>using gilford when barbaros exists
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>>155085226
I don't know, there has to be something
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>>155085226
>the episode joey summons it
i was beyond hype as a kid
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>>155085226
>worse Beast King Barbaros
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>>155085317
there isnt anything that could make that even slightly playable short of "special summon gilford the lightning from your deck" and even then he's just a vanilla

He would need a retrain AND support which is frankly not going to happen

I know it hurts, I just want to play bandit keith robots
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>>155085226
>At some point in the future there will be a Red-Eyes Gilford Fusion that needs a level 7 Red-Eyes and a Warrior
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>>155086084

Flame swordsman is more iconic-either he's getting gratuitous support or he's fusing with red eyes

Silent Literal Whos got support so nothing's off the table
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>>155086643
the silents were pretty prominent in little yugi's duels against bakura when escaping the pharaoh's tomb in millennium world and the ceremonial duel
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>>155086643
>the most iconic Yugi monsters other than Gandora that defeated DM and won the duel
>literal whos
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>>155086870

I'm on capsule monsters arc on netflix now and I don't think he's used them yet
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>>155087058
>I'm on capsule monsters arc on netflix now
You should really consider skipping that, it's just 4kids fillers like Pyramid of Light.
That said Silents were only used in like 1-2 duels in the last arc so I don't blame you if you forget about them, they're pretty gimmicky and not that noteworthy.
>Bakura wasted so many turns that Silent Swordsman went to 3K atk
>Atem had to +5 just so Silent Magician could be stronger than both Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl.
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Does dark magician count as a "Magician" for odd-eyes/magician stuff is is it one of those cases where it needs a specific japanese character to count?
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>>155088104
>Does dark magician count as a "Magician" for odd-eyes/magician stuff
No
> is it one of those cases where it needs a specific japanese character to count?
Yes
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>>155088104
The pendulum magicians are MAJUTSUSHI

Dark Magician is literally Black Magician, just in kanji
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>>155088104
they all say "magician" pendulum card
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>>155088104
Dont all of them state it needs to be a pendulum magician card?
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post your ace monster, /dng/!
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>>155088648
Needless to say, I'm hyped for 124.
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>>155088648
>your ace monster, /dng/!
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>>155088648
your ace monster, /dng/!
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>>155088648
!!!
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>only one way to summon it
>it's OPT
Why do they always botch legacy support with stupid restrictions like this?
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>>155088648
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>>155089060
So it can stay off the banlist when it's time for it to not be meta. The other blue eyes stone that does fuck all everything is likely to get hit because it not hard OPT.
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>>155089060
Because Konami doesn't want you to make easy Rank 8s.
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>>155088648
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>>155090318
schwarzchild desu
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>>155088648
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>>155088805
Is this the biggest monster in the Game?
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>>155088648
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>>155090679
Chaos Dyson Sphere is even bigger
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>>155088648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn9NJJ7PMI
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>>155088648
Guess who?
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>>155090679
Pretty sure the Chaos one has the regular one it. Dyson Spheres are a fucking ridiculous concept.
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>>155090806
Woops, meant to post THIS.
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>>155090783
Doesn't look that much bigger
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>>155090679

Worth noting that star eater is also around the size of the sun
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>>155088648
Not as good as he used to be, admittedly.
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>>155090959
>We will never get non tourney pack ultimates again
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>>155091107
>around the size of the sun
>dies to a demon sitting down
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>>155091228
still a pain in the ass, always hated this fucker
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>>155091068
Comparing the summons in the anime gives you a sense of scale

Unfortunately, only dub clips are still on youtube
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>>155091228
Man I remember when I first read the rulings on this guy, shit was so fun, specially when everyone used scrubby shit like Sakuretsu Armor could not understand how Gearframe worked.
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>>155091276
Truly depressing. I'm going to look around my stuff and find every Ulti I have, hold on.
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>>155091107
>>155091278
>both lose to a Koala Kangaroo
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>>155091408
>two koala kangaroos are even enough to kill a person
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>>155091408
>they all lose an old robot cenetaur
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>>155091389
Worst part is this change came after the reverted back to the old foiling technique.
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>>155091486

which loses to bootleg transformer
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>>155091486
>>155091564
>loses to a Five Headed Dragon
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>>155091564
Can that piece of shit even be summoned easily?
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>>155091564
loses to a plane train
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>>155091664
A monster appears.
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>>155091664
>takes 4 specific monsters to be summoned
>only 100 stronger than BEUD
>you still need to pay 1000 lp to attack
Overpriced shit the card.
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>>155091685
>all these restrictions
>still ask you to destroy it.
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>>155091564
>Stupid Summoning Condition
>Stupid Attack Restriction
>Shitty Effect that isnt even a quick play
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>>155088805
>>155091107
These two cards are the reason Academia decided not to invade the original Synchro and Xyz Dimensions.
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>>155091638
>>155091685
You all lose to a Big Rabbi.
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>>155091896
technically it's okay-ish for turn 1 rank 10 spam, when you don't have a grave and can't use exodius
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>>155092005

how

you can't activate any shit after you summon it
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>>155091998
>lose to a Big Rabbi
>Cannot be destroyed by battle with a DARK, EARTH, WATER, FIRE or WIND monster.
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>>155092106
Oh yeah?
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>The strongest monster in the game is a 6 way tie between How to train a Dragon, Lord of level 1s, Faibu Goddo Doragon, Disappointing art, train with a jetpack, and Black Megazord
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>>155092216
>sound
wtf
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>>155092091
you don't "activate" knight express knight or exodius (assuming you got rocket arrow on a later turn when you would be able to do exodius
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>>155092216
>unlimited OFFENSIRE Force
>not running 3x Block Offensire
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>>155092228
What about me?
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>>155092216
>when the dark master released all monster with endless offensive will be destroyed
>effect destroys himself
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>>155092428
He has offensire force, anon.
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>>155092403
>0 atk in a skill drain meta

why the hell do you think we are even talking about all this
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>>155092535
>have to send 3 traps for Uria
>have to send 3 spell form Harmon
>have to send 3 fiends for Raviel
>then banish all of them
>autolose to Skill Drain
Literally a -11 for nothing, GX was a mistake.
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>>155092793
Wasn't it cheated out in the anime?
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tellarknight
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_brightest_stars

The have the perfect naming setup to get more post launch support in the future.
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where the fuck do i buy buddyfight cards
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>>155093413

For some reason Konami made the Summer Tirangle, Winter Triangle and Winter Hexagon but they still haven't made the Spring Triangle
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i want to use vennominaga, and aliens looks like a good archetype to mill reptiles
i've been trying and haven't had much luck, is this even slightly viable? some stuff like alien brain and damage=reptile seems pretty sacky are a great way to make advantage for reptiles, but the deck barely even functions when I try to play it
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>>155093596
Post deck
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>YGO's most iconic monster, Blue Eyes uses Synchro
>L-lol K-Konami hates Synchro r-right guise?
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>>155093556
What would it even do.
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>>155093556
>Denebola
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>>155093630
I bet there's an alien that's an automatic 3-of and I'm just missing it or something dumb like that
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>>155093631
>blue-eyes
>most iconic monster
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>>155091389


Alright, /dng/. I want you to share a pic of EVERY Ulti you currently own.

I used to have more, but I've traded a lot away recently.
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Glory on the Academia
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>>155093534
The internet. The real problem is finding people to play with. No one from 2 locals knew of Buddyfight, and the only people that played lived around 2 hours away.
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>>155094310
I would but my phone is always dead and I'm missing a Flare Metal, which I lent to a friend and never got back.
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>>155094310
Well here I go. Hope it isn't TOO potato.
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>>155094732
>that era when konami decided to gold plate every damn thing.
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>>155094732
>>155094829
>Maximum Six got an Ultra

To what end
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>>155094732
>all that non-English
Pls anon I've already fapped 4 times tonight.
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>>155088648
He's my guy
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>>155095058
W-what kind of new, exotic degeneracy is this ?!
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>>155088648
I like the itty bitty Sifr Spark in the foreground
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>>155093985
Keep dreaming DMfag
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>>155093985
This does weird things to my penus
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>>155093631
>>155095465
I'd argue "most iconic" is a toss-up between BEWD and Exodia.
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>>155095652
But Exodia is irrelevant in the meta so BLUE EYES WINS BUY BLUE EYES
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I need spicy sideboard tech
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>>155095184
Foreign language cards get me hard, I have a thing for them. A guy at my locals just got like, 80 each of German Gold and Silver Gadgets. UNF.
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>>155093832
Come to think of it, maybe running a bunch of alien dogs would be okay to make ayy-counters and rank 3 spam, since dante mills power up vennominon and break sword can trigger Rise
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>>155096081
People living in Switzerland have easy access to German, French, Italian and English cards.
>Full Italian gold burning abyss deck.
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>>155096015
>>
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>>155096518
dlt ts
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>>155096518
Why?
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>today's Arc-V episode is structure deck shilling
I don't care, I like Ancient Gears
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So they just used Super Poly in the animu
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Tourneyfag here. Who wants to run sets? Discord ok? Also why the fuck don't you guys have a discord channel this is asinine.
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>>155097062
And Asuka got a new Machine Angel Ritual, so that mgiht get printed because pack filler
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>>155097062

Super poly is at 1
Next you'll complain they used monster reborn
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oi
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>>155097139
There used to be an IRC channel called yugibro back a few years ago. it was pretty popular if i remember correctly.
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>>155097306
>more anime cards
good reveals W H E N
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haiyaku
haiyaku
haiyaku
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>>155097139
There are 2 discords.
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>>155097235
More like it's a pretty important lorecard, and it'd be like if an Egyptian God got pulled out.
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>>155097306
Cyber Angel is
1) Once per turn, you can target 1 other face-up monster you control: Gain LP equal to half its ATK.
2) If a ritual monster you control is targeted for an attack: you can negate it
3) If this card is in your graveyard: you can banish one other Cyber Angel in your graveyard, then target 1 monster your opponent controls: Special Summon this card from the graveyard, then, take control of that targeted monster.

Ritual is the same as the original, except instead of tributing you can shuffle Warrior or Fairy-type monsters from your graveyard back to your deck as well, and it seems it needs exact levels.
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>>155097412
Can i get that hot invite sempai?
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>>155097473
Garbage.
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>>155097530
>>155097473
that last effect is insane
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>>155097473
>3) If this card is in your graveyard: you can banish one other Cyber Angel in your graveyard, then target 1 monster your opponent controls: Special Summon this card from the graveyard, then, take control of that targeted monster.
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>>155097509
sure
https://discord.gg/Cn8E8
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>>155097473
How is this supposed to help with Herald Turbo?
>>155097551
>target
es mierda
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>>155097586
You still need to properly ritual summon it to get it out of the yard.
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>>155097551
It would be somewhat okay if you could just tribute it and then summon it from the graveyard and steal their monster, but you have to actually ritual summon it first
And it's not level 6 so you can't tribute it for Herald either
So it's shit
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It would've been decent-ish if she were LV6.
But fucking L5 fuck off
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>>155097673
Very true. Almost could have had an okay-ish card here.
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>>155097469

Gem knights and rank up magics are important lore cards too, what is your point?
>>
WHO FUCKING CARES GIVE ME THE SPELL
>>155097306
>>155097473
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>>155097746
he did
>reading
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RATE is somehow shaping up to be a worse set than INOV.
How the fuck did they manage that.
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Will you be buying the Stlucture Deck?
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>>155088648
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>>155097736
Rank-Ups are generic Xyz spells like different types of Fusion are just different forms of Polymerization, and Gem-Knights aren't important in the anime. It's also worth noting that Super Polymerization was going to be used to fuse the dimensions and cause a fucking apocalypse, which could very easily be the endgame for Arc-V.
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>>155097736
I'm not even him, Super Polymerization is literally GX's equivalent of shit like Egyptian Gods and Exodia from DM, the Crimson Dragon from 5Ds, and so on. What is so hard to comprehend about differing scales of plot importance?
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>>155097854
No, I don't buy bad cards
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>>155097854
Yeah. Structure Decks are my shit.
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>>155088648
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Why don't Spirits get used more?
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>>155098347
because they are shit
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>>155098416
your shit
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>>155098347
I like Spirits a decent bit but when it comes down to it pretty much just >>155098416.

It doesn't help that a lot of them are just really fucking old, all gimmicks aside. The newer ones are usually pretty solid in the niche they fill like Amaterasu in flipshit decks who I certainly don't like just because she's cute or anything.
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>>155098347
How are you even supposed to get him out?
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>>155098552
a thing called
Tribute Summoning
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>>155098585
Its not a Monarch though
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>>155098552
Tribute Summon
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Is cockadoodledoo really worth playing in ABC, its not something I want to draw into anything other than turn one unless I have something on my field.

And on another note, if I dont have an infinity on the field, do I just job to raigeki?
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>Why is he running Super Poly in Ancient Gears?
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>>155097412
There is one offical one. The other one is hot garbage. True dngers such join said group.
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What if he was at 3?
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>>155099245
If you have ABC on the field, float into the pieces, then Raigeki triggers all their effects.
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nip using Espirits

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29670597
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>>155097473
>if a ritual monster you control is targeted for an attack
>no OPT clause
>no restrictions on archetype
OP
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dark world corridor when?
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>>155099250
>CAN'T NEGATE ULTIMATE ANCIENT GEAR SUMMON
yuri is on some next level meme techs
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>>155093985
I wonder what kind of stuff Mahad onee-san teached to shota MANa.
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>>155099776
>re-using Flying "C" and Kaiju
Oh my.
It's gonna be an annoying deck, regardless of actual power, huh.
Creature Swap on Spirit is also a possible play.
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>>155100972
Please stay on /r/yugioh and stop shitting up our general.
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>>155097473
>2) If a ritual monster you control is targeted for an attack: you can negate it

No OTP? And it keeps reviving itself?
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>>155103538
If only it's a continuous effect instead.
Something like
>Your opponent cannot target Ritual Monster you control for attacks
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>>155099776
>Urgent Ritual Art
>non-targeting bounce

Oh this is going to be irritating
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>>155078546
>Arc-V losing to Borderline Hentai - The Anime
Holy shit.
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>>155105169
Hey, borderline hentai is fine as it is.
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>>155105516
Not complaining, Yurishia is best girl, but it really does show just how far Arc-V has fallen.
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>infinite monster reborn
>e-tele
>hexproof and spell speed 4 buff
>soon to get broken fusion support and become tier 1
Where did it all go so right?
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>>155106401
Took them like 4 tries. but they're finally figuring out how to do legacy support.
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>>155093631
It's just salty synchron fags. Thinking they represent all of synchro.
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>>155106401
>his Toon version can be special summoned, but he can't
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>>155106401
it all comes unstuck a bit when wyvern has that stupid 'you can't set cards for the rest of the turn' which sucks a lot and the fact that a bunch of those require you to have no monsters to activate (catapult, that new trap) is pretty bad as well.

The worst thing for it by a mile though is that geartown misses timing making 'chain mst/TT :^)' annoying as fuck.The deck being able to make enterblathnir pretty easily makes up for it a bit though.
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>>155085226
Gearfreed would be better Imo and giving him new lore of his journey in the process.
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>>155106401
You can only use that infinite monster reborn on empty field, you know.

It's all boil down to how broken the fusion support really is, and judging from the anime effect, I don't think so.
Hunting Hound doesn't even get a buff from anime.
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>>155106726
Blame Ancient Gear Drill.
Searchable TT/MST/CC/Mistaken Accusation/Forbidden Graveyard/Forbidden series is OP as fuck.

If only this thing is in other archetype. Like Cyber Dragon that actually needs it to search Power Bond or something.
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Why the FUCK are some, and I mean SOME, stupid ass Blue-Eyes players STILL siding ASF in the mirror match? I've just come across 3 different individuals who did that shit and LOST because of it. Some used Cherry Blossom too, but that's an OK side, not a good one, but an ok one. But ASF? Are you fucking STUPID?
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>>155106786
It did. you don't need another gear on the field to fuse. AG Devil turned out pretty good so I think the other fusions have a good chance of turning out well.
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>>155093631
>L-lol K-Konami hates Synchro r-right guise?
But they do.See they haven't strengthened any of the level pool in synchro besides 8 and the amount of decks that can do 8 is very limited unlike xyz wich has a good amount of decks that can do R4NK.
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>>155107000
They didn't watch last Worlds final.
Specifically the last round.

If only I have the screenshot of that clenching fist of bricks.
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>>155107069
They're simply incompetent at balancing the game. They don't even playtest their shit.
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whats infinite monster reborn?
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>>155106786
Who cares, you just chain them all in sequence to catapult and flood the board. Your opponent cant empty your field at any point or you just bounce back even harder.
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>Vanitys Fiend + Naturia Beast + Jinzo + Shock Master calling Monster effects
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>>155107575
Kajiu the Beast and Raigeki
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Guys, what if the ban of Level Eater is only because they're soon releasing new Synchron/Quasar suppport that would absolutely be busted with it around?
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>>155107635
>kaiju
>vainity's fiend on board
is this going to be the new take on KAIJU THE OPHION?
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>>155107743
I wish.
Sadly dreams are only something you wake up from.
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>>155107743
If so they should just hit libririan
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>>155107430
I agree. But if something good came out of the arc-v era is that they finaly aknowledge the existance of other mechanics and are slowly giving them support.
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>>155107767
True

Then I guess Ohka over beast then Raigeki
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>>155107575
Use the graveyard effect of Breakthrough Skill on Naturia Beast and then Raigeki.
Can somebody post an image of Reiji for me? I don't have one.
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What does the nip thinks about their list?
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>>155107575
Raigeki because you stopped your own Naturia Beast with Shock Master you idiot
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>>155108195
Use google you lazy piece of shit.
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>>155107575
>dng doesnt even recognize shock master + nat beast meme anymore
This place is truly dead
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Man i'm truely jealous of how the OCG is handling their banlist. Unafraid to admit they make mistakes, they return things that were unfairly hit back to a decent number or unlimit it fully. TCG will never admit their wrong doing and keep a card on a list for years even when it's powercreeped. Their are people in the TCG that still think gateway is the strongest card to ever be made, that upstart is suppose to be at 1 and windup magician wasn't supposed to go to unlimited in 1 swoop.

They aren't even looking at forgotten cards on the list like the OCG anymore.
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>>155108331
Just move to Japan, or any asian shithole really
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>>155108331
I think after unlimiting fucking Cyber Stein I can't take any praise for the OCG banlist seriously
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>>155108331
>Qliphort already back to almost full power there
I'm not complaining because Qliphort isn't that good anymore, but I don't think it's been that long since they got hit.
Isn't it a bit too quick for a previously meta deck?
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>>155108461
Asians are ugly.
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>>155108276
Shock Master is banned so the impact it has on the board is irrelevant.
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>>155108648
>Stein an issue when Kaiju exists

Wat?
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>>155108873
Kaijus are not an excuse for broken shit, go fuck yourself
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>>155108648
You are talking like they ever banned Cyber-Stein there.
And it needs two years until there's actually a deck that can use Stein effectively.
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>>155108720
But you'll have the superior card game format so it all works out right?
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>>155108873
yeah let's bring back magical scientist as well since maxx c and veiler are a thing now. After all, as long as you start with either you may be in a position to stop the ensuing FTK so it's totally balanced right?
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>>155109020
>>155109020
But asian are ugly. Ill just still to ygopro. Only blacks are the ugliest.
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>>155109117
One card costs 5000 LP to use, the other doesn't
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>>155109117
Magicial isn't OPT. You tried though, ill give you 2 points. Lets see how further away you can stray from a point julia.
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>>155109181
but according to /dng/ life points literally don't matter so clearly it's fine

>>155109269
it's the same in the sense that if you open a kaiju you do shit on stein (unless they go for last warrior) and if you open veiler you stop scientist. After all as long as you open your out it's balanced right?
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>>155088648
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>>155090679
for you
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>>155078607
You could also use it to spam Hunting Hound/Wyvern/any other gear.

I like this.
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>>155096518
DELET
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>>155096518
>with apologies to seto kaiba
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>>155078546
It was all good up until the Synchro dimension. It's ridiculous how much they fucked up after that point.
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>>155105169
What is this borderline hentai anime?
>>
>>155091408
is there a deck that works with him
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https://exhentai.org/g/977550/33de093052/
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>>155097306
RATE-JP036 Cyber Angel Nasatya
Light Fairy / Ritual / Effect
LV5 1000/1000
You can Ritual Summon this card with “Machine Angel Ritual”.
(1) Once per turn: You can target 1 face-up monster you control; gain LP equal to half that monster’s current ATK.
(2) When a Ritual Monster you control is targeted for an attack: You can activate this effect; negate that attack.
(3) If this card is in your Graveyard: You can banish 1 other “Cyber Angel” monster from your Graveyard, then target 1 monster your opponent controls; Special Summon this card from your Graveyard, and if you do, gain control of that target.

RATE-JP055 Kikaitenshi no Zettai Gishiki / Machine Angel Absolute Ritual
Spell Ritual
You can use this card to Ritual Summon a “Cyber Angel” Ritual Monster.
(1) Tribute monsters in your hand or on your field, or shuffle Fairy and/or Warrior-Type monsters from your Graveyard into the Deck, whose total Levels equal the monster you Ritual Summon, and if you do, Ritual Summon that “Cyber Angel” Ritual Monster from your hand.
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>>155111117
>no OPTs on any of these effects
>the Change of Heart is permanent
This card is crazy, even worse it's level 5 so Releaser + Petit Angel is a thing.
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>>155111289
>Releaser + Petit Angel
The OCG is going to have a field day with that.
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>>155097306
Who is the lady doing all the rituals in their ritual spells?
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>>155111289
>Nasatya summoned via Demolisher
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>>155111289
Does Cyber Angel Herald deck even needs a protection from battle?

And the change of heart needs you to properly summon her first.
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>>155111728
After you've summoned her once though, you've got a change of heart in your graveyard without a once per turn restriction that you can just keep using for as long as they don't manage to shuffle her back into the deck or banish her.
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>>155111605
Hello there.
>>155111728
>And the change of heart needs you to properly summon her first.
That pretty much balances it since Dimension Barrier is a thing and Cyber Angels weren't really that strong in the first place.
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>>155111886
Well, you need to find a way to dump her to grave after using Change of Heart.
But yeah.

Maybe this one actually makes the other Cyber Angel variant a thing.
I'm sick of scooping because I can't summon Herald with 3 or more negation.
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>Activate this card by sending 1 "Polymerization" from your hand to the Graveyard; look at your opponent's Deck, also banish up to 3 "Polymerization" Spell/Trap Cards and/or "Fusion" Spell/Trap Cards from their Deck, except "Diffusion Wave-Motion", then inflict 300 damage to your opponent for each card banished. During either player's turn, when your opponent activates a "Polymerization" Spell/Trap Card or Fusion Spell/Trap Card, except "Diffusion Wave-Motion": You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card, then inflict 300 damage to your opponent.
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>>155111985
>change of heart on Crystal Wing
>they neg it
>use it again because no OPT and still in grave
Say, in that case, can I use the mind-controlled Crystal Wing negation?
Does OPT effect reset when it changes controller?
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>>155112198
I would assume so since it only says 'you can only activate this effect' referring to the card's controller and the card has since switched control to a new controller.
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>>155111117
>Summon Gofu
>Summon Nasatya
>Make Ultimaya
>Re-summon Nasatya to steal a monster
>Make Shark Fortress or something with Nasatya
>Re-summon Nasatya again to steal another monster
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>>155107743
As much as I would love that, Konami hates Synchros and the only reason the Synchro Dimension happened was because Ono was fanficing his own work.
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>>155112198
>>155112354
It doesn't reset.
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I just realized that the life gain effect isn't hard OPT. So each time you summon it you can get life points. And you can target the stolen monster too.

Life Points are still just life points. But being able to get thousands of Life Points each turn doesn't sound that bad provided the card actually does other valuable stuff. Like stealing monsters.
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>>155112449
You need previous grave set up and your opponent needs targetable monsters/monsters which don't float out for that.
>Dark Destroyer
>Dragon Buster
>Spirit Dragon
>Fusion Dante
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>>155107743
>Quasar suppport
Why would they need to support Quasar further?
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>>155112545
How about with a card with hard OPT?

For example, in Darklord mirror.
Opponent already using their Ixtab snapcasting effect, so I steal it Temptation.
Can I use the mind-controlled Ixtab's effect?
Hard OPT specifically say "You can only activates effect of [x]" which refer to the controller of this card.
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>>155112737
>You need previous grave set up
The monsters sent by the summon itself?
>Dragon Buster
>Spirit Dragon
But the effect isn't once per turn. If they evade it then you just banish another monster and grab whatever they summoned. Granted that Spirit can summon Azure.
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I just realized something
>It's a light monster with a graveyard effect in a Blue-eyes and ABC meta
Asuka cucked by Kaiba again.
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>>155112917
I already answered that. But to clarify, OPT restrictions do not reset from changing controller. Be they hard or soft.
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>>155112949
Chain your steal effect to Azure's effect activation.
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I played yugioh in highschool back when synced came out, but most of my games were played in duel academy where I could just stomp with rituals in a handful of turns, then I see the webms here and you pull out r near 3k in your first turn and I'm like how can I compete.
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>>155113048
It's a bit strange though.
If opponent have Ixtab that have used it's effect, let's say it's Ixtab A, and you steal it with Temptation, you can't use Ixtab A effect.
But if you summon another Ixtab, Ixtab B, you can use Ixtab B effect.
Provided you haven't use Ixtab effect that turn.

But I guess that's how it works.
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>>155112497
>Konami hates Synchros
But Synchros are about to become the new meta.
>>
Could you guys post a few majespecter decks? I´m not sure about the card ratios I´m supposed to use.
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>>155113573
>unironically wanting to play a shitty ass broken deck
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>>155113569
In America maybe
It just got fucking murdered in Japan
F
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>>155113571
Ok. I actually like Nasatya, but this is just funny. Or depressing, I am not sure which. Probably both.
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>>155113628
it was broken af anyway, why wasn't it limited to once per turn to begin with?
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>>155111117
Wait, it's real?
It's not anime card showcase, but actually a card getting printed in RATE?
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>>155113628
Synchrons != Synchro
Synchro will still be the next OCG meta.
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>>155113742
Because it was probably meant for Synchro solitare
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>>155113784
According to who.
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>>155113831
According to me.
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>>155113784
>Synchrons will never get new support
Fug
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>>155113618
Well, I want to play and collect all of the dracoslayer related archetypes, just have majespecter complete.

Going to buy the igknight cards soon. And as much as I like the magician girl and tramid decks I have. I doubt they´d win me games in the long run. Even my lunalight isn´t complete yet.
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>>155113571
>you can steal whatever out to Herald your opponent might play
>I don't think Crystal Wing or Infinity will stop it
>Have to be Effect Veiler or Solemn
>Effect Veiler or Solemn
>stopping the steal effect
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>>155113267
Deck filled with sub 3K attack can still win though.
Refer to BA, or SRPKBA, or Dante Wheelchair something something.
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>>155113742
Not really
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>>155113571
She's level 5 so she's instantly trash.
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>>155114145
>not even Necrovalley can stop Nasatya
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>>155113784
I can't wait for synchrons to be dropped and forgotten in favor of an actually properly designed archetype.
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>>155114421
Read the second line on Necrovalley you stupid Mexican
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>>155114357
I hope she have the same fate as Mana.
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>>155114421
It prevents a Cyber Angels from the graveyard to be banished, preventing Nasatya to pay her cost.
It also prevents Nasatya to leave the graveyard.

It stops her thoroughly.
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>>155114512
>You can banish 1 other “Cyber Angel” monster from your Graveyard,
Yeah, anon.
I forgot about the cost.
Now this significantly dropped her ranking in my mind.
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>>155114629
>say something right, then proceed to say dumb shit
Sasuga dng
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>>155114512
>>155114629
I activate this card before, so now Necrovalley can't stop me!
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>>155114629
>>155114629
Oh my god, it does not prevent cards from moving THEMSELVES from the graveyard, it's why you could still use something like Zephyros while Necrovalley is up. Jesus Christ, will you faggots fucking read Necrovalley a little harder, it only has 4 lines of text
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so I started playing yugioh again after a long hiatus and I noticed a lot of mexicans and blacks at locals. rarely any regular people. is this normal?
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>>155115006
Absolutely.
Mexicans and blacks liking and playing [ANIME CARD GAME]? Totally normal.
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I guess light imprisoning mirror will increase in price.
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If you guys wanted to read how the Japanese react to the banlist, here you go.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/48463700.html
They're basically the same as us anyways.
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>>155078121
Hey guys, I recently bought a rise of the true dragons structure deck and am relatively new to yu-gi-oh and still a little unfamiliar with the rules. I've read through the full rulebook too but I'm still a little unsure.

Apologies if I sound like a massive retard, but I'm trying to understand whether the following works.

If I bring out Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon through banishing a face up dragon, on the same turn can I then activate REDMD's ability once special summoned to bring out ANOTHER dragon from my graveyard?

So, if I use REDMD's ability to bring a dragon back from my graveyard and I choose to pick Divine Dragon Lord Felgrand - can I then activate DDLF's special ability to banish one of my opponent's cards?

I know I can't attack with either on the turn they're brought out because they're both special summons, but can I activate both abilities in the above instance?

Again, apologies if this is a stupid question.
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>>155115141
is there a card game where there aren't any colored people?
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ALANN CUP Reactions.
Overlords found out Kozmos loses to Strike and Za lightning
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/48469134.html#more
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>>155115441
>If I bring out Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon through banishing a face up dragon, on the same turn can I then activate REDMD's ability once special summoned to bring out ANOTHER dragon from my graveyard?
Yes


>So, if I use REDMD's ability to bring a dragon back from my graveyard and I choose to pick Divine Dragon Lord Felgrand - can I then activate DDLF's special ability to banish one of my opponent's cards?
Yes

You can attack with special summons, you can only not attack if youre first.
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>>155115615
Nips confirmed retards
They're going to forget about full power Kozmos and try and make competitive Kaiju decks
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>>155115615
Tier 1 in the TCG since release.
Doesn't do squat shit in the OCG even at full power.

Why is the TCG so messed up?
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>>155115615
>15 Kozmo deck, there's even a FKI variant
>0 tops
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>>155115824
>Why is the TCG so messed up?
Kozmo is literally the same case as Burning Abyss.
The deck isn't even that good, it's just the banlist killing everything else and making it the only playable deck.
All thanks to Tewart
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>>155115824
They tried using shit like Goodwitch
They have no idea on how to play Kozmo
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>>155116008

Didn't they JUST get them? Give them time, they'll probably create a synchro variant.
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>>155116008
Do you seriously think it matters? Kozmos can't compete in the OCG format. The cards just aren't good enough.
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>>155105169
Arc-V is losing to Vanguard, Duel Masters and Ange Vierge is even more funny
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>>155115909
>I Cosmo is too weak to Lightning and notice.
It is often also when the accident Ru. You win, if that is not the theme can be deployed without usually summon like ABC and DD and metaphor.
The Japanese are just based.
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>>155097306
>>155111117
>>155112449
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>>155110645
Masou Gakuen HxH. It's about Magical Girls powered by sexual pleasure.
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>>155115796
Hey mate, thank you I appreciate the reply.
> You can attack with special summons, you can only not attack if you're first.
I knew that the person who goes first can't attack on their first turn, but I didn't know that if you special summon a monster you could immediately attack with it. I always assumed that there was summoning sickness or something preventing attacks on the turn a monster is special summoned. I just examined the rule book I received with the deck and you're right it doesn't say that you can't attack with a special summoned monster.

Thanks heaps for your reply mate
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>>155115615
The top 3 Metalfoes deck, if you're curious.
1 Kirin, no stein.
Against 15 Kozmo and 10 ABC.

Maybe System Down and Chaos Hunter put too much pressure on Kozmo.
And it's mostly sided for ABC matchup.
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>>155116504
>Kaijus already in the side
WEW.
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>>155112806
>literally loses to a level 8 Synchro
>CDI, Memetoad and evdn the fucking Magnet Warrior boss are easier to summon versions of its best effect
>ATK value almost irrelevant these days

It's been powercreeped pretty badly, even an archetype that can easily bring it out isn't much help when its counters and alternate versions are generic enough to be run in a majority of very common decks. Not saying its unplayably weak but some actual support focused on it would be great as it's only still as much of a threat as it was when having more than one copy of it or when combined with Sifr or Crystal Wing.
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>>155116504
Is that Jowgen? I need to learn deck theory from our overlords.
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>>155115546
Magic: The Neckbearding
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>>155116468
np mate

also keep an eye on the banlist, for example red eyes darkness metal dragon is limited to 1. IIf you play at locals just say youre new and theyll surely help you too
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>>155116667
Yeah. Quasar is pretty outdated.
Sifr is the new hotness.
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>>155116504
>Maybe System Down and Chaos Hunter put too much pressure on Kozmo.
TCG cucks sfill making excuses for their shit archetype. FFS exciton got banned to push that garbage.
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>>155116921
How did Fudo get this monster again? Was this Manga only?
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>>155116829
Jowgen is already in Metal side since forever. Sometimes. In some builds.
Nips isn't that consistent with what they're using as tech in Metal.
There's even some that sides Graydle.

You can pendulum summon him, and turn it off with Metal Scale pretty easily, so yeah.
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>literally no hits on the banlist
>Overlords stopped playing it, even Dark Magician had at least 1 guy running it even if he didn't top.
Did they get bored of Blue-eyes or was the powercreep just too much?
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>>155117042
I meant to say that Kozmo is shit there because OCG meta already sided what kills Kozmo.

But yeah. You seem mad about the slightest sign that someone defending an archetype you hate.
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>>155117149
There's no need, the deck is good but it's also entirely fair, no omni-neg bullshit or oppressive boards.
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>>155117057
Yes.
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>>155117149
>the powercreep xDDD
the only thing to come out recently to affect the meta has been barrier. BE is not an opressive T1 deck. Yet another person that doesn't realize why ABC is superior. Im glad i stopped spending money on this game so im not affected by buyer's remorse like the rease of the BE cucks itt.
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>>155088648
:3
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>>155116859
Yeah I had a look at the ban list and noticed REDMD was limited to one. It makes perfect sense though, since it seems you can pull off some pretty nasty combos with it.

Yeah I might play at my local gametraders, since they have card game nights. I'm a little intimidated to go though because I know these guys probably have decks created around the meta that will fuckin crush me. Would be nice to play with people who have a good understanding of the game at the same time.

Things like chains/priority and specific wording of certain cards are things that still cause occasional trouble a bit at this stage. I'm enjoying it though and eager to learn. Cheers again m8.
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>>155116832

Sorry nigga I'm there too
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>>155117503
>the only thing to come out recently to affect the meta has been barrier.
Or, you know, Darklord, Treatoad, and Kaiju.
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>>155117654
Don't sewat it, at my locals everyones nice and welcoming. At least that was my experience when I started again. Just talk to them and say youre new wanting to get back into it, some might give them thier own decks to practice a bit to see what suits you. I love teaching new players, it's fun. Did you only buy 1 Felgrand Structure Deck?
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>>155117503
>Yet another person that doesn't realize why ABC is superior.
Did Konami dig themselves into a hole with this deck?
Not even Kozmos can beat it despite having a higher playerbase and sides against it and the sheer stunshitting and banishing pretty much just fucks everything coming out.
The AG Structure is pretty much DoA with ABC going around.
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>>155118180
What would ABC be like if Dragon Buster couldn't defuse on the other player's turn?
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>>155118045
Yes I did, I did a bit of digging later and was told that people tend to buy multiple of a structure deck so they can throw out some of the bad cards. I've already done that to an extent. I didn't buy another structure deck, but get a few extra magic/trap cards and a few extra dragon cards from a big pile that was only like 5 cents a card. A mate of mine was nice enough to give me a holo assault Wyvern which was something that I thought would synergise well in a deck like Rise of the true dragons.
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>>155078546
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>>155118270
R4 stunshit
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>>155089060
Can I summon him from the grave if he was summoned properly first?
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>>155118443
OK I recently stopped watching Arc-V since I like to watch the show in batches anyway, but what in the fuck is happening that is causing it to get EVER WORSE? I thought the obnoxious EGAO shit in the Xyz dimension was already bad enough
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>>155118180
Ancient Gears aren't alone. Pretty much every new deck will be unless they are also broken or ABC gets hit which won't happen for a while.
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>>155118789
The new episode wasn't that bad desu, especially since it gave Yuri some character.
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Buster Blader is cool! COOL!
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>>155118789
4 full episodes of Gladiator Beast filler; even Jack couldn't save it because he did fucking nothing other than setting super situational traps to save Yuya.
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>>155118910
OTP?
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Biggest problem with dragon buster design is it can banish and can attack the same turn.
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To those who discuss the actual card game, I'm just wondering. Why aren't you over at /tg/ or something?
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>>155119318
No it's not, it's that it can banish on the other player's turn and then dodge the negation of said banishment. Attacking is barely fucking relevant to the deck's power.
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ABC proves that 1 good ED monster, that only need 1 card enabler to summon it, and 1 other card that can search that enabler, is enough to make a deck meta.

ABC doesn't even have that omni-negation bullshit.
Or maybe using used resource to summon it, therefore doesn't need any investment, is the main reason why it is so good?
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>>155119318
>not the fact that it fuses from the grave and its mats are all level 4 and float when they hit the grave
>not the fact that it has quick effect banishing removal
>not the fact that it floats back into the same parts and can put itself back together with 2 r4 next turn.
Dark Destroyer can fuck off, this is the real ideal boss monster design.
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>>155119420
/tg/ is an enormous MTG circlejerk and YGO threads there are always filled to the brim with either shitters or elitists arguing why their western card game is better.
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>>155119539
>loses to blue-eyes HARD
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>>155117149
ABC outclass everything to the point that isn't even funny to the point the previous meta just get a few tops here and there, it doesn't help how ABC is damn cheap to make over there besides some cards like Dimensional Barrier.
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Dragon buster to 2/field to 1 or buster to 1 field to 2. I feel like buster to 1 is the only way to curb the deck though and it would evolve by using call of the haunted but it slows it down.
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>>155119597
>"Did you hear? He STILL hasn't switched to Magic!"
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>>155119805
Well ofcourse who wants to be with a bunch of neckbeards that think everything they do is right and throw a fit when you beat them?
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>>155119539
>is the main reason why it is so good?
ABC is good for 3 reasons
1) Rank 4
2) Dragon Buster is disruption/removal and floats into 3 bodies
3) Floodgates like ASF and Dimensional Barrier as well as shit like Solemn Brigade.
>>155119626
Remind me, which deck just won several tourneys this month and last and which won is irrelevant even with the new banlist?
>>155119736
Dragon Buster to one means that they can keep on floating out and making the same card again.
Even if they use CotH to compensate they've lost so much offensive power that it doesn't even matter.
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>>155119906
Every CCG player
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When the fuck will Minerva be printed as a common?
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>>155119543
>using resource you already used to summon
>can float and making that resource usable, again
>the resource is usable as R4, the best toolbox in the game
>has a good disruption effect
I think the last part is just a bonus.
It's a boss monster that takes no resource to summon, and even gives you resource next turn.

Is there even other card in YGO that function like ABC?

And, as a side note, the pieces doesn't float if you use it as Xyz material.
Using it as Synchro is better in theory, since you actually use the pieces floating effect, but R4 toolbox is just way better than Synchro toolbox.
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>ABCs and Treatoad coming to the TCG soon
FUCK
Who's ready for stunshit: the format?
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>>155120083
Thank god Konami didn't make any of them Tuners
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>>155120064
Maybe in the next Premium Gold.

>>155120241
Buy Cherries, then your deck might have a chance if you aren't using ABC.
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>summoning ABC is effectively a +4
Holy shit.
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>>155120083
>It's a boss monster that takes no resource to summon, and even gives you resource next turn.
>Is there even other card in YGO that function like ABC?
The movie original effects of the Cubics were like that IIRC, once you tributed Vjam and got an attack in, you could keep on floating in and out of either the beast or emperor line members and keep attacking until you either win or reach the highest member of the line which also floated back into the base Cubics used to summon it.
>>155120401
They tried to.
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>>155088648
I miss my old fishdraw deck ;-;
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>>155120401
>Light machines with spamming capabilities with access to a broken fusion, R4 and R8, and the LV8 Synchro toolbox
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Id's habbeding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kArs-yNFTHg
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>>155120484
My fav meme.
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>>155120567
That actually sounds like a fun card, especially with A Legendary Ocean.
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>you used to be able to counter Machine decks with just a single Cyber Dragon
>now the minute Cydra hits the field it's eff ;) banish ;)
I want the OCG to stop memeing with subpar decks and just hop on the train to make ABC tier 0
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>>155120401
>Union Hangar can get them Torque Tune Gear
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>>155120567
Is there any easy way to search and summon this memer?
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>>155120926
>muh tier 0 meta
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>>155121040
Dogu :)
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>>155121150
Tier 0 formats bring forth the skilliest duels
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Havnt played in like 2 years. I wanna make a deck build around rank up magic rank 4s. Whats the best archetype for that right now? I used to use satellas along with dildo chair
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>>155120926
>all it was meant to do was be an extension to the once unplayable XYZ monsters
>it's close to tier 0, just needs a few more cards to break it.
And it was once thought that Blue-eyes was the king of legacy support? ABC dethroned it hard.
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>>155121335
Utopia or raid rapitors.
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>>155121040
not really but searching him out isnt really a problem when you're using the high drawpower deck like water fish. Cards like fish depth charge, moray of greed, and back at the time I used the deck pot of avarice
3 copys of quickdraw, 2 level eaters, and 1 barbaros made the deck really fun and have more than 1 win con which most decks now a days dont have. also made it very hard to beat.
but saddly RIP fishborg ;-; he was my main monster for tributing and him being banned ruined my deck
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>>155120926
Despite /dng/ currently losing its fucking mind, ABC still does get pretty stiff competition from Metalfoes, granted they've been hit in the current banlist but they've topped just as well without really skipping a bet with 2 less Stein and Kirin
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>>155116667
Quasar is still decent support for a 2 or 3 card combo since it is a great complement to to Crystal Wing itself. Since it can protect your Crystal Wings from S/Ts.

I honestly don't think Quasar needs to be anything else. Its double ATK and high stats are neat for pushing for game. And it fills a hole Crystal Wing doesn't with its S/T negation.
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>>155121335
Raidraptors with a side of Phantom Knights to search for RUM Launch
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>>155121838
>granted they've been hit in the current banlist
People keep saying this. But what did they lose? 2 copies of Kirin?
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>>155122370
Did you not even finish reading that post?
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>>155122370
And 2 Stein.
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>>155121335
>Whats the best archetype for that right now?
Non-BA Phantom Knights.
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>>155122370
read the post again
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>>155122483
This, the RUM gives them access to Ophion, so they can't use Kaijus
They also have access to Dark Requiem Xyz Dragon
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>>155122426
Damn, Stein is on the list. I missed that. I must have been blind.

Anyhow. I still think Metalfoes will gun on quite well for quite some time anyway.
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>>155122614
>I still think Metalfoes will gun on quite well for quite some time anyway.
That's pretty much a given, and I bet they're still gonna get more support.
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>>155088648
I like plants
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>>155121185
>can search any monster in the game
wtf needs a ban
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>>155122589
I got shitted on by that card. Had to do a double take when I realized it not even OPT negation.
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any builds with her yet?
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>>155123169
>not even OPT negation
That's the best part.
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>>155122249
Sure, it still has its uses and is definitely a good card, probably always will be, but considering its sheer size, summoning condition and overall role in the game, originally being pretty much the definition of a huge boss monster and serving as a hallmark for those for years, it being degraded to support for a much smaller and much easier to summon monster just seems degrading.

Hell, I don't even know what kind of support they'd have to give it to make it a viable option for a boss and finisher again. Maybe a set of smaller Synchros specifically to be used to summon Quasar or rather a "level 10 or higher Dragon-type LIGHT Synchro monster" to include Sifr and the other Stardust dragons as well would be enough. One that clears backrow when used, another to clear monsters and a tuner that adds an effect to the monster summoned with it (either extra protection or OPT quick-effect destruction) but that can only be used to summon one of those Synchro dragons.

Then slap in a continuous or field spell that prevents negating Synchro summons of Stardust monsters or level 10 or higher Dragon-type Synchro monsters and we might have something functional again.

Though Synchrons would definitely need a new way to easily go into those Synchros with level eater gone.
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>>155122680
>I bet they're still gonna get more support
Even if they do, I think it's still a long time until that.
RATE will have Crystron support and the new Master Peace archetype.
The next set will have that previous Master Peace archetype support and one more Master Peace archetype.
And the next set after that will have support for that last Master Peace archetype, and maybe something to close the Master Peace story.
Only then, maybe we will get more Metal support.

Well, considering the type of the deck, there may be some random janky tech that can be splashed into Metal every time a new set released.
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>>155088648
It's pretty much my secret, and last, weapon, the fact it doesn't target makes it even better.
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>>155123481
Pretty sure Crystrons will also get a few more support cards along the way, since they still need at least 2 more Synchro monsters to represent the turtle and the dragon as well as some more S/T support.

Metalfoes really don't have much room left.
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>>155122993
People forget about this because they didn't list it in wiki tips page.
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>>155123678
Still need an effect scale to pair with Bismagia, and a fusion inspired by the scale
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>>155123678
The last 2 Synchro most likely released in RATE, same case as Metal.
It just hasn't leaked yet.
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>>155123417
Use Goyo Defender.

It's weird that the security in Synchro have a card that makes Accel Synchro easy enough, and yet none of them use Accel Synchro.
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>>155124285
Why did they keep summoning that shittier Level 6 Goyo Guardian and not just normal fucking Goyo Guardian?
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>>155124435
Because Goyo Guardian is banned in OCG for memes and the show follows the OCG banlist
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>>155124531
Then why did Yuya use Monkeyboard in Xyz dimension and why did Goyo appear when all the Security was being controlled?
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>>155124285
That's because in universe you have to have a CLEAR MIND.
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>>155124651
Because shut up
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>>155124791
That first Shooting Star Dragon summon was the best shit.

Double Tuning Accel Synchro monster when?
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>>155124285
So the new combo is Goyo->Goyo->Goyo->that level 3 water tuner? How do you usually achieve the last step without any other monsters on board?
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What should I side out/in for mirror matches?
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>>155125125
System down And Winter Cherry.
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>>155124992
Summon a level 3 tuner, goes into Coral.
Or you could summon a level 2 tuner, then goes into Accel, then Accel dump jet, increase level.
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>>155125225
For?
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>>155124961
The levels of disappointment and sadness that I felt when the level 6 Stardust Warriors were actual support for Stardust, Junkuriboh wasn't support for either Stardust or Junk and none of the Junk cards were support for Stardust were unbearable.

That was so fucking terrible.
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>>155125385
I want to be able to build a Stardust.dek in the same way you can build a WAGA TAMASHI.dek.
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>>155125385
*none of the level 6
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>>155124992
Speedroids does it easily with De-Synchro since Red Eyed Dice can just change the levels from 1+2=3 to 1+5=6 and summon Coral instead of Defender.
Or, you just banish Den-Den to summon Tri-Eyed Dice.
Or you just play their in-archetype non-OPT Monster Reborn.
Or you just normal summon a tuner since you can summon Goyo Defender without using up your normal summon.

Of course with non-Speedroids you can always do what mentioned, namely the Accel -> Jet Synchron trick.
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>>155125478
So, basically an almost unplayable deck?
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>summon jaku using benten and something else
>cl1 jaku, cl2 benten
>benten searches niki
>jaku bounces then ss niki
this should work right? doesn't work on percy.
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>>155125645
TAKE THAT BACK
RED DRAGON ARCHFIEND TURBO WORKS
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I love how Starlight Junktion is a so much better field spell for Crystrons than their own field spell or even for Synchrons.

It's like they made it with Crystrons in mind.
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>>155125645
RDA is a pretty good deck actually
Best part of the Synchro arc
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>>155123292
She takes up the slots dakini did, I'll go so far as saying you could possibly replace all copies of dakini or at least leave 1.
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>>155125737
dunno the deck, haven't play tested yet but i makes sense to me.
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>>155125737
It works for me.
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>>155122783
Man, I loved the Rose Angels. I wish they had more play.
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>>155125806
>can search Steam Synchron for unrestricted Accel Synchro
>change any tuner into Quickdraw for Ultimaya
>mandatory so never miss-timing
Yeah, it's fantastic.
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>>155125125
Anyone? I never which cards to side out against Blue-Eyes too.
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Have the Dueling Network devs said anything about releasing a standalone deck builder? Buying new decks now is a pain without the direct link to TCGplayer and I miss being able to preview the price for cards just by browsing.
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>>155125737
Why not an Icarus over the Treacherous?
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>>155125125
Whats the trap to the left of vanity's
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So is Yusei.dek completely unplayable now with level eater banned?

>>155126531
You could probably afford to side out Anti-spell for the Spider ally of justice thing/winter-cherries against blue-eyes
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>>155126845
Dimensional Boundary
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>>155126935
If you live on Japan, yes.
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>>155126836
Trap slut.
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>>155126935
And this thing just topped before the banlist hit.
As in winning the event, not top 8 or something like that.
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>>155127085
damint, i really like playing on the OCG Banlist but i guess i'll have to play TCG so i can play one of my favorite decks from my favorite character.
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>>155127336
>my favorite decks
Real talk. What's so fun about doing 40~ moves for something you should be able to do 10~ or less?
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>>155127462
Masturbation is fun, anon.
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>>155127462
I don't play the "shit out an unbreakable board with loops" version, i just shit out a bunch of synchro's each turn using grave manipulation and recursion.
I tried the Synchro loop version and it isn't as fun since you're doing a bunch of fun combo's but they aren't as variable/adaptable and the game either goes "win turn 1 and they fold or brick"
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>>155125125
>>155126531
>>155126531
Just saw your post. Here's my take on the situation with the list you made. The first minor problem is the main deck, outside of maxx c you have nothing to stop the the opposition plays on their turn. Main deck 2 ghost( to stop the field play) and drop the instant fusions. When play testing you should always put your deck in the position you do not want, and going second in an ABC mm is an unfavorable position.

Now to answer your question, with 2 ghost in the main you have room for another system down in the side and another kaiju or raigeki. When facing ABC if you're going first on the 1nd round( if you lost obviously) side in the 3 system downs and 3 reapers. Drop 2 strike, 1 dimension, 1 gold gadget/1 photon/1 pot. Going 2nd you side in the 3 reapers 3 system down, the extra ogre and 2 twin. This time you're removing 3x anti spell, 2 strike, 1 dimension, 1 gold gadget/1 photon/1 pot.

For BE it's mostly always triple reap, triple reader and maybe a kaiju or twister depending on what you see because they're not a backrow heavy deck. Drop 2 strike, 1 dimension, 1 gold gadget/1 photon/1 pot.

Dunno if you're gonna read this but i hope my advice gave some secondary insight.
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Are Fluffal Octo and Frightfur Kraken any help for the deck?

Did anyone ever find a use for Frightfur Sanctuary other than preparing Frightfur Fusion?
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>>155129718
Kraken doesn't do much other then allow you to go over indestructible monsters

Octo is pretty great, you could probably start running One for one in the deck now
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https://youtu.be/b64Fw0Ele5o
Why are TCG events never this good
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>>155130481
Because KoA is really fucking soulless 99% of the time.
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>>155130481
SO
COOL
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>>155130481
Because KoA doesn't give a shit about their playerbase.
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How does this deck make you feel?
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>>155131138
it's shit
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Thoughts?
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>>155131138
Come back in 100 years when you can make a playable red-eyes deck.
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>>155131138
You forgot your main character.
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>>155131443
what's your norden target besides manju?
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Which game has the better player base skill-wise, YGOPRO or DEVPRO? I haven't even lost in YGOPRO yet, everyone is running shitter rogue or worse
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>>155131138
Green
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Anyone have a ABC decklist that doesn't use pot of desires?
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>>155131729

It's the only target. Honestly I'm not a huge fan of it, but because hikokujaku puts level 4 spirits on board you can Instant it for a hand rank 4 or additional fodder.

The extra deck isn't necessary so far, it's just a one-of I'll dig into eventually.
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>>155131740
What rating do you have? Play up to 1800 at the very least.
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>>155130481
OH PEE! OH PEE!
He sounds like my locals.
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Kind of confused on Fluffal Patchwork's wording.

By "Frightfur" Fusion Material, do they mean "A fusion material lsited on a Frightfur mosnter" or "A Frightfur monster listed as a fusion material"?

The latter wouldn't make much sense yet so I assume it's the first?
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>>155131443
Anyone tried running Veilers in this? Could make some pretty sweet Trishula plays with the Tokens
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>>155132017
According to the site rankings, 1800 is higher than the ranked player first...
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>>155132509
Latter.
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>>155132696

I didn't think about that yet but:

>Good handtrap
>Revivable by Norden, making IF less useless

It's not bad desu, I'll test with it
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>>155132924
You do know rating rebooted 2 days ago?
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>>155131970
>It's the only target. Honestly I'm not a huge fan of it, but because hikokujaku puts level 4 spirits on board you can Instant it for a hand rank 4 or additional fodder.
you can't xyz with tokens
if i were you i'd drop the IF
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>>155132696
>use up your normal summon
Not really.
You need that normal badly for Manju AND Aratama.
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>>155096518
TITTY FUCK ME ALREADY!
ahaha
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>>155133415
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>>155133415
It's not like you have to summon it, it's just seems a waste to have that good of a token generator and not try to press the advantage
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>>155132696
consider running a symphonic engine
3 guitaars 1 mics 1 basess
gives you an additional normal for ara/iza/manju, level 1 tuner for trish
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is lightning really getting a reprint in the tcg?
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>>155134050
its in the special edition
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>>155133918
Why can't the 2 headed hunting hound fusion get released already?

Symphonics + IF/2headed make easy Infinity plus gives you extra summons to make a Devil or Gigant X too.
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>>155134132
it says it released a couple of days ago in the us but there's no information regarding price or stock anywhere
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>>155135507
hes already longer out in the US
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>>155135507
nvm it didnt come out in the us, only for eu
thats fucking dumb
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>>155135507
>>155135954
You can just order it online or buy the Manga that has it (Zexal 8 or 9 or something)
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>>155135954
FUCKING YES, WE FINALLY GET LIGHTNING AND DON'T HAVE TO BUY SOME SHITTY MANGA TO DO SO!
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can someone post the caveman spongebob pot of greed picture with the wall of text?
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>>155136135
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>>155136408
i love you thanks
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Does anyone else think this is the best Yugioh has been in years? I understand DUEA had a more diverse pool of competitively viable decks, but Tier 2 and below was largely ignored and the meta became stale. While this Meta has shit like ABC and Blue Eyes, all it takes is a few bans and we may see the most diverse competitive scene in the game's history.
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>>155136459
>implying they will hinder ABCs in 3 months or even think about touching Blue Eyes
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>>155114508
>rank 3 turbo is a properly designed synchro archetype
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>>155136459
>TCG will be 2 deck meta ABC and BA, IF BA still alive
>OCG is 2 deck meta ABC and Metal
>most diverse competitive scene
The power gap between high tier 1 and low tier 1 is real.
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>tfw no QT pie Ancient Gear synchro and XYZ so you can summon other things besides the Reactors/Golems when you pop your Fortress or activate Catapults grave effect
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>>155137234
>he doesn't know about crystrons
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>>155136717
Will ABC be able to overpower the TCG's near full power BA?
I'd assume so with ABC being able to banish Dante/its mats on sight and dodging Farfa ;) like a champ, but I can never be sure.
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>fusion has like a god damn hundred nomis
>synchro has around a dozen or so
>xyz has like 5 nomis, tops
Xyz are a fucking mistake.
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>>155136685
Calling Speedroids a rank 3 archetype would be like calling Destiny Heroes a synchro archetype due to Malicious.
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THANKS PERCY. no really, thank you. This hand was salvageable, i otk'd him.
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>>155136459
since DUEA the things just get better
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>>155137558
XYZ's in general was a huge fucking mistake.
Easiest method so making a consistent R4 is piss easy, the "Detach a material 'limitation'" gives them an excuse to make crazy strong effects and worst of all they've got shit like Castel which basically dictates if a boss monster is good or not because "Lmao 2 level 4's"
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isn't stygian dirge pretty much pointless when you have shadow imprison against phantom abyss?
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>>155137821
Prince is a 1 card otk, doesn't matter what else you draw so long as you have him/diva.
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>>155137234
We need Akaba Leo to duel with "dimensional" Ancient Gears that run all summoning methods.
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>>155137437
>TCG's near full power BA?

What? Anyway, ABC shouldn't have any issue dealing with BA.
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Anyone have a Dark World decklist?
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>>155137558
XYZ are the most generic so who cares.
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>>155136717
Why do you think BA will be T1 with ABC when it's already got less tops than Blue-Eyes, which got wrecked by ABC in OCG even when they have better cards like Monster Reborn?
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>>155138004
>>155137923
All Xyzs should be balanced like how normal Utopia is.
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>>155137821
woah, a mermails deck OTK'd? never would have guessed
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>>155138156
That's what they were originally going for. Then they just said fuck it to restrictions like they always eventually do.
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>>155138312
Dante is at 3 in the TCG and it's barely keeping pace with Blue-Eyes. OCG BE > TCG BE, and ABC >>> OCG BE. Is there any reason to believe that ABC >>> TCG BA?
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>>155137821
>didn't set his traps
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>>155138920
He did.. not that it matters prince sends as a cost.
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Will we see even more decks enter T2/Rogue once Ties of the Bretheren hits TCG?
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>>155138515
But, anon.
It didn't actually work that way.
A>B>C>A is possible.

We just don't know how exactly BA at near full power will do against ABC, not BE.
Well, not like I want them to be meta.
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>>155139065
No.
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>>155138515
>>155139141
Dark Law is pretty fucking strong against ABC
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Why isn't dark synchro popular here in the tcg? if anything i'm glad it isn't, i don't want level eater on the banlist anytime soon.
How likely is it for level eater to get hit here too?
Better question, why was level eater banned when it's unsearchable and you must absolutely start with it or draw into it to get combos going?
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>>155139141
It is, but I was asking why he would think that would be the case. It doesn't seem like there's anything that would apply only in ABC vs BA.
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>>155139389
Tcg doesn't use shit decks.
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>>155139389
you mill it with armageddon knight or dank grepher

but anyway, it wasn't popular in OCG either and was routinely getting stomped by ABC and metalfriends contrary to what some angry retard who doesn't play the game (and only goes off his gut feeling) was saying for a few threads so you better believe KoA will be stupid and kill it here too
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>>155139637
TCG only plays BE with Galaxy memes.
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>>155088648
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>>155139637
That BE deck of World's finals sure was a shit deck.
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>>155139790
Featuring the Brilliant Fusion Engine
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>>155139840
Tbhwyf it was, it lost to fucking madolche.
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I've been testing Cyber Angel Nasateiya, you wouldn't believe how balanced it is in an actual game vs just reading it without applying the knowledge of everythingin a deck working together. It being level 5 lowers the power level so much, still a good card but not the "break fhe game" level I was expecting.
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>>155139637
Dark synchro wasn't shit, but it wasn't the best deck either, which just makes me question why the fuck did konami felt like they needed to neuter it even more.
>>155139681
I see, well the only reasonable explanation is that konami wanted a new banlist but they didn't want to hit any new decks that were still making them money like ABCs or Metalmemes, since they still have a specific date/time for banlists, it makes me a little glad that here in the tcg we don't have a set time for banlists anymore, as much hate as that system gets.
But they'll hit it here too because tewart masturbates to what the ocg konami overlords do and they better hit it too just to be sure.

The real question is, will synchro.decks survive?
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>>155140102
>ABC
>making money

it's a fucking structure deck
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>>155139389
>unsearchable
You haven't been trying.
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>>155140102
>>155139389
Honestly if you don't see an issue with a deck that can reliably SS 40+ times in one turn then you need to get your head checked
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>>155140152
Exactly. Remember they have to sell cases of these things to retailers. Single card sellers lose the hardest.
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>>155140271
ban all complicated decks, only helmet Evilswarm shit allowed
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>>155140271
That was hardly the problem.
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>>155139506
That's me.
It's just from simple elimination.
We know exactly how the other TCG meta deck will compete against ABC from OCG meta, except BA.
Since BA is practically Tewart's baby that dodges the hit countless time, my gut feelings say that it will remain meta even when ABC drops.
MCII also still at 3 here.

BA is still tier 1 in TCG, right?
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>>155140271
t. Retard who doesn't play the game
Quality>Quantity
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>>155088648
I'd summon this over quasar any day.
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>>155140271
And yet other than handlooping it STILL underperforms compared to ABC and D/D boards.
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>>155140271
Decks that SS more than five times a turn are the real problem bbqh
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>>155140271
That's literally only ever a problem if you activated maxx c.
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>>155140271
t.retard
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>>155140461
It wasn't a major problem now but it severely limited synchro design space in the long run
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>>155140479
Just like Wind-Ups and Gishki handloop underperformed during 2012 format yet faggots from both sides screamed bloody murder for those decks. On top of that it actually made Maxx "C" a worse card because you'd deck out thanks to all of the fucking special summons you'd get with Level Eater

Why the fuck are synchrofaggots the only ones obnoxious enough to defend this retarded shit?
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>>155140816
How so?
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>>155140271
They can still do that level eater just made it easier. I guess we'll all pretend librarian is a well balanced card too. The further away synchrosmove from that type of card design the better generic synchros will be.
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>>155140881
Stop with your shitty meme faggot
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>>155140892
Because you can't make generic strong snychros without risking people vomiting out three of them in one turn - see Omega
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>>155140682
>the only real way to punish masturbation deck
>dies to masturbation deck
You don't think there's something wrong here?
I mean, you don't need to activates Maxx "C" at the very start of their masturbation, but I'm going to conveniently ignore that fact.
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>>155141005
What meme dipshit I'm not even the same person who keeps saying synchro apologist, stop getting triggered by everyone who doesn't fall in line with your dumbshit
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>>155140881
Didn't you copy paste this same reply before. It must be tiring dealing with different opinions.
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>>155140271
is kinda like you said it
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>>155140993
I don't see synchros getting better designs in the future. It's either stun shit or a board wipe or an obscure and ridiculous effect.
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And on top of that these synchro decks promote non-sportsmanlike behaviour like pointless looping in order to stall for time.
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>>155140881
How competitive do you think Gishki and Wind-up handloop?
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What is with the hatred for synchros from some people around here, anyway
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So with Scout and all the other Qlis at 3 now, what will they do to the OCG meta?
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>>155140881
omega limited solved the new handloop just like gustkraken limited solved the old handloop

but they also killed every white card that's not BE or ultimaya, with the small exception of the cards lamia makes, and golly gee she got hit too.
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>>155141260
Fuck all.
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>>155141237
Memes, honestly synchros are pretty fun and used to be niche until omega was released and japan discovered dark synchro
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>>155140881
Shut your whore mouth.

Wind-Ups performed better than Inzektors.
Gishki was missing M7 in TCG, a key card to their combo.
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>>155141260
Not much. They have all the backrow clearance in the world do deal with qli.
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>>155141260
Random tops with Demise.
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>>155141237
It's a shitty meme a guy started forcing when Level Eater got banned
That and Konami/Nips hate 5DS and the mechanic but gush over Xyz and Zexal
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>>155141356
>pretty fun
>watching your opponent play solitaire for 15 minutes
>fun
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>>155141237
Because 5Ds fags are annoying as shit and constantly defend their shitty show despite the fact that it only had 64 good episodes, the Synchro arc started the downward spiral Arc-V is experiencing as was the most objectively pointless arc in the series, most importantly every single 5Ds faggot loves to defend objectively broken cards like Level Eater despite the fact that Level Eater completely undermines the entire design philosophy behind Maxx "C" and promotes nothing but board wank
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>>155141356
Why do people call it "dark synchro"? It runs like 2 more dark monsters than generic synchro.dek.
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>>155141260
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/archives/7265821.html
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>>155141414
And by all the backrow clearance you mean what TCG has + one Harpie's Feather Duster, right?
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Verdict on espirits so far?
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>>155141619
The name of the fucking deck in OCG was literally "Synchro Dark". Turn it around so it sounds a little better in english and voila. Stop being stupid
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>>155141619
>2 more

it runs Malicious, Dark Grepher, Arma, Level Eater, and the blackwings in extra
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>>155141718
>normal Synchro.dek not running Level Eater

m8
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>>155141671
Pretty cool so far, but I'll wait for more cards to be revealed before I try playing them.
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>>155141260
Absolutely fucking nothing.
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Don't tell me the synchro butthurt is from genwunners who don't play the game and are mad because it looks impressive when you don't know how inconsistent it is, especially compared to xyz spam like ABC
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>>155141626
Yes 1 card that destroys every single thing and causes salt. Are we going to pretend that scout going to 3 vs it formally being at 2 will change the makeup of their meta?
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>>155141671
Could be broken if the other ritual monster is good/better then the first guy
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>>155141625
This is the most disgusting thing I've seen in a while.
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>>155141771

I already named 4 extra dark monsters that Dark Synchro runs, though

some versions also run more Destiny Heroes for D-Draw and Shadow Mist for Dark Law
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>>155141619
because despite also being masturbation, it's very different from quasar.dek, look at the decklists
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>>155141796
I like Xyz though
The mechanic in general is a bit too powerful in my opinion though, especially with shit like Treatoad/Infinity and The Lightning.
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>>155141796
People dislike synchrocentric because playing against it is a chore, not because it is an unfair deck, numbnuts.
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>>155141716
Ok, but why do the ocg call it synchro dark? The deck does not run enough dark monsters or dark support to warrant dark in the name.
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>>155141884
it's missing extra full of Reaper targets
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>>155141671
has the potential to mix with cyber angels and make the new nekroz
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>>155141908
I know, I'm not debating that and I'm not even the guy you were replying to, that was just a silly statement.
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>>155142003

>doesn't run enough dark monsters

Gofu, Dark Grepher, Malicious, Armageddon Knight, the Blackwings in extra, in some versions extra Destiny heroes and Shadow Mist, and it also uses Allure of Darkness
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>>155141625
C-c-c-could it be?
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
>site looks incredibly similar to ygodr and updates the same way
Oh my god thank fucking Christ, now I don't actually have to read, I can look at the pictures which is 20 times easier
THANK YOU BASED JAPAN
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>>155141930
Quasar.dek =/= synchro.dek.
Synchro.dek is all about getting out omega and trish, and usually doesn't even run quasar. It's the deck you see in that infamous webm of the maxx c challenge.
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Can someone mix photoshop Mountain Dew and Doritos onto Hikokujaku so he becomes Esports lord?
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>>155141972
XYZ are more broken but people tolerate them because xyz heavy decks don't take longer than 1 minute to build their boards compared to how long some synchro decks can take.

Which i find fucking retarded, why do people tolerate xyz when they're so easy to make and play and have about the same or even more power than synchros do?
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>>155141528
Those all sound like very subjective and, more importantly, weak reasons for doing something and disliking one type of garbage more than the others.
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>>155141796
>compared to xyz spam like ABC
>ABC
>xyz spam
So summon 2 Xyz in 1 turn is considered spam now?
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>>155142295
Because any shitty deck can summon 2 level 4s to make Castel or Utopia.
Xyz should've been more restrictive with materials or more balanced with effects.
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>>155142307
Of course its subjective you dumbass, I know you just learned about the word in high school, but you don't actually need an objective reason to dislike someone or something.
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>>155142248
Yeah i know, that's what i said in my post, read it again anon
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>>155142003
Let's reverse it.
How many non-dark monster Dark Synchro run?

I don't think you should count the ED monster though, because archetype name mostly deiced by their Main Deck monster.
Otherwise Kozmo would be called Random Xyz.dek
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>>155142295
Could it be because people are more interested in a game with interactions than a game where who combos first win?
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>>155142495
Yeah, synchros kinda used to do that with how restrictive they got, but they've been getting more and more generic to the point where shit like omega was released.
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>>155142295
>>155141994
I would guess this.

>>155142497
True, but that doesn't make it not stupid.
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>>155142495
>people have issues with Castel and UtopiaL

If you said Shock or Chain I would agree but fucking Castel and UtopiaL?
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>>155142457

yeah? not even tellars can do that shit consistently, they needed to get COTH/Instant Fusion/Oasis to hand and set it
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>Qliphort at full power
>BA and Shaddolls nerfed to death
Is Qliphort the OCG's version of BA?
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>>155142663
If your tellar deck can't make multiple xyz in one turn your deck is bad.
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>>155143009
Good tellar decks make 1 xyz per turn and then set 3-5 cards.
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>>155143001
I guess the reason why people enjoyed playing a stun deck so much (scout.dek) is because at the time nekroz was fucking stupid so playing stun was reasonable compared to Nekroz and the way people saw the deck as "acceptable" despite it being stun stuck even to this day.
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>>155143001
God nekroz was an obnoxious deck to face off against.
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>>155143114
Yeah but they CAN make more than 1 per turn, they don't do it, but they can, if yours can't then you've got a problem.
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Can I become a good player if I play YGOPro 24/7?
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>>155142663
Tellar isn't even a Xyz spam deck.
Tellar is helmet shit, that's why people hate them.

This is what true Xyz spam looks like.
And this one is barely called a spam.
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>almost every deck siding Kaijus or Reapers
Jesus Christ
Also what in the fuck is going on here?
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>>155143390
Not if you learn nothing from your plays.
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>>155143451
The apex of skill
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>>155143451
Is this the fabled BABE?
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>>155143451
is that a fucking token between alternative and the tuner BA
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>>155143642
>2016
>not having tokens in your main deck
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>>155143451
>almost every deck side a good side against ABC, current meta deck, that also works against other deck
Gee, I wonder why, anon.
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>>155143451
>meme team tournament
fuck you for making me click that link
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>>155143451
>Dark Magician
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You know, Ancient Gears could be really good if Geartown had this effect.
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>>155143451
>>155143642
I think I figured out that the token is supposed to represent Apprentice Illusion Magician. Which in turn explains the random as fuck Dark Magician. So its basically Beatrice.dek. I guess whatever tournament this was let the guy use proxies since Apprentice doesn't formally come out until the 21st
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>>155143847
Define "really good"
>>
Crystrons are
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So in terms of missing support what should we expect from RATE? We still need:

>1 Crystron Synchro (High Level)
>2 Triamid Support Cards
>2 Chemical Beast Cards
>2 Digital Bug Cards

Can't think of too much else at the moment, but the one-shot deck themes I've mentioned have so far gained a total of ten cards per archetype, so I'm sure they'll continue that trend.
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>>155142197
>updates faster than ocg.xpg.jp
Damn, I just got used to that site since I discover that the ADS text is usable in percy.
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>>155144001
I'm expecting new Phantom Knights since Yuto is dueling next week. Maybe the Ruriraptors too.
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>>155144001
Final Metalfoe scale to pair with Bismagia?
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>>155143451
>this fucking abomination

fucking japs
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>>155144001
Take off your trip faggot.
Crystron most likely will get 2 Synchro, just like Metal.
One is from Prasirator, and the other is from Sulphafnir.

I really hope one of them will be a level 6 synchro tuner. Can change it's level when summoned is added bonus.
But my gut feeling say that it will be a level 5 tuner and level 10 accel synchro.
Which doesn't help the deck very much.
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>>155143390
Define good player
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rate my meme deck
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>>155143847
Ancient gear have like 4 different special summon cards, they dont need any more tribute fodder, they need better bosses.
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>>155144314
Bismagia is a rare metal though. One is enough.
And I don't think there's enough space in the set for another Metal Fusion.
Maybe later when Master Peace storyline is near it's climax.
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>>155143451
>mfw dueling a guy using a huge mishmash of Symphonics, D/D, Metalfoes, ABC, Yang Zing, Odd-Eyes and a bunch of other shit
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>>155144717
It would be weird to have a high scale without it's corresponding low scale
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>>155144706
3.
One of them is weak to miss-timing.
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>>155144502
God crystrons fucking suck, they need more than 2 synchros to be good because they struggle too much to go into their synchros, they rely on the opponent making plays to do anything good and that makes them easy to play around.
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>>155144314

Looking between the Draco-related archetypes, they're all approaching about 15 cards. Igknights have 14 (15 with Ignister), Majespecters have 13 (14 with Majester), Dinomist have 12 (13 with Dinoster), and Amorphage have 11 (12 with Amorphactor).

As for Metalfoes, they're at 15, and Crystrons have 14. Assuming 15 is the relative Draco limit, we would expect 1 more Crystron card, and then between 12 and 13 Zodiac Beast cards for RATE, with potentially another Majespecter card since this is presumably a Wind Based set.

>>155144502
Trips off, but search your heart for this truth.
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>>155144835
Say that to Performapal.
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>>155144623
add speedroids ya faggot
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>>155144906
>they rely on the opponent making plays to do anything good
What.
You just masturbated in their turn into Crystal Wing, or King Calamity if you're a madman.
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>>155092228
Black Megazord?
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>>155145007
I can be arsed to sif through the entirety of Pepe but the magicians do come in sets of two for example
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>>155145142
He means Black Optimus Prime
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>>155145052
what do you suggest i change ya nigga
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>>155143451
>Abyss of the Blue Chaos
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>>155145142
Galaxy destroyer
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>>155145197
oh him.
The 3 Level 10 XYZ right?
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>>155145236
>Abyss of the Blue Chaos
>A. B. C.

meta as fuck family memeber
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>>155145112
I've discovered them for myself just this week, how does one go into Crystal Wing or King Calamity without running into a problem because of their restriction?
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>>155145372
you synchro climb with quondum rather than the non-synchro tuners

that and the special summon trap
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>>155145171
How do you even pair this shit.
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>>155145112
Are you fucking retarded? the tuners only let you go into machine synchros if you use their effects.
READ
THE
CARDS
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>>155145210
idk i would add speedroids because the deck wants you to have tribute fodder and you could search red-eyed dice after special summoning terrortop to have a tuner to have the option to go for a synchro
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>>155145372
>I only discover them this week
>they're shiiiit
Yeah. What the other anon says.
You can also use Accel.

>>155145791
for you.
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>>155145519
So basically setting up your Quondam + another tuner + the trap to climb by summoning the non-tuner Synchros with your core Tuners, then going into something big using Quondam itself, adjusting its level if necessary?

Should try that out later.

>>155145960
I'm not the "they're shiiiit" anon. I started looking into them as an alternative if Level Eater gets hit here and my Synchrons lose their last bit of life.
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>>155146103
its actually pretty easy to play synchrons without level eater you just have to use other things like norden or brilliant fusion

as a bonus it frees you from having to run the fucking quickdraw synchros who are complete trash outside of like road, drill, and jet
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>>155146347
You can use Quickdraw to summon Ultimaya though.
Just for something to consider.
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>>155143451
Why wouldn't people side/main Kaiju's?
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>>155146437
i've tried that. the problem is you can't draw off librarian with it and have to add synchros you wouldn't otherwise use (beelze, void ogre)

it works but you're better off drawing
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It just hit me that Godwin is named that because he wants to win against the gods.
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>>155146689
how many do you side?
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>>155146689
What boss monster is that?
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>>155146689
Should I side Chaos Hunter for Kozmo and upcoming ABC meta?
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>>155145527
>that 2005-tier scale effect
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>>155147515
Yes, you should, I do that in D/D at least.
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>>155147383
I main 2 Turtles right now, which works for me.
>>155147396
The one I tributed was Triamid Sphinx me thinks.
>>155147515
I would test it, but there are better options for ABC (Cherry Blossom) and Kozmos
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>>155147696
>Cherry Blossom*
*Winter Cherries
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>>155147515
Why would you run hunter over Lancea my friend?
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>>155146437
>>155146727
>>155146347
>>155146103
rebuilding from memory
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>>155145960
post dick
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>>155147696
Let's just say Cherry is just too expensive and takes too many space for my taste.

What's a better side against Kozmo?
Different Dimension Ground?

>>155147937
Can be Pendulum Summoned, one-sided, and semi permanent.
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post cardfus
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>>155148138
>chaining that card to a dante summon
>not continuous so can't chain TT/MST
Brilliant.
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>>155148138
imperial iron wall, banishing kozmos don't really hurt them, that's their thing and it fits in well vs meta decks that banish a card from grave to summon or stopping destruction etc. Only issue is it needs setup.
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>>155148138
To get rid of their boss monsters Kaiju works well, but if Chaos Hunter is a fine choice if you're limited by budget.
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>>155148004
>Uranus
>Fairy Tail
Those are some pretty funky additions. Going to give it a try I think.
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>>155148302
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>>155148302
Wynn
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>>155148302
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>>155148302
Being effectively immune to Trap Holes is still useful, right?
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>>155148589
uranus is mostly because i needed to fill 2 spaces (it and call) but i sort of liked the gimmick that it could search brilliant fusion

pre-dark synchro all the synchron decks in nipland were all about fairy tail, and it works pretty fucking terrifically
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>>155148302
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>>155148626
Tour GuideXCir art when
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>>155148453
It stops their destruction effect.
I guess Imperial is better for Kozmo, but it just too specific and kinda useless if I go second.
And being a Cont. Trap is kinda too vulnerable for my taste. People always have S/T destruction somehow whenever I open my Trap Floodgate.

>>155148583
Of course I also side Kaiju.
It's just the more option I have, the better.
Maybe if I can somehow fit some Cherry target in my ED, I'll side her.
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>>155148302
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>>155148626
>Julia
>waifu
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>>155148302
I'm waiting for the day when she is actually viable.
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>>155148938
i used to think he looked stupid when i was younger but his design has really grown on me.
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>>155148952
Wow that's really degenerate, anon.
>>155149113
>he doesn't want to fuck Julia
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>>155148302
cardfus
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>>155149226
who the fuck is julia
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I miss playing this janky piece of shit.

Gave me the dumbest of wins.
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>>155149909
>rabbit with only 2 targets
>>
>>155149909
giganticastle is better than leo
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>>155150192
I know how fucking bad this deck looks but it consistently let me either trigger Azatoth's full effect, loop into a board full of rank 4s + Naturia Beast or, if everything fancy failed, just let me run people over with a ~4k beatstick against their near-0 ATK monsters.

Even I never understood how I was able to beat anything with it back then.

>>155150323
Giganticastle isn't a Beast with 3k damage, though, which was pretty much my sole reason for running him. He gets gigantic with that field spell out and can be revived with Ayers Rock Sunrise.
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>>155148302
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>>155149430
The head of the TCG Yugioh Judge Program.
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>>155148302
This girl was my babe even before prince was a thing.
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>>155150743
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>>155148302
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>>155150743
tranny
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>>155149909
I hate it when Tewart hit my petdeck for no reason.
>>
New bread
>>155150941
>>155150941
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>>155150871
moe~
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>>155148302
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>>155148302
Literally nothing sexier in the entire franchise.
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