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Previously on /tosg/: >>154941175

Latest Patch Notes: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=640
Latest Performance Improvement Tests: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=644
Rank 8 Update Preview: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610
Updates You Might Have Missed: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=624

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Late September™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Frequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/z0nHSEjH
>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Orsha (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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PlayTheGame when?
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/Bullies/ when?
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>>155031872
I somehow doubt you can make hakkapelle work in pvp unless rank 2 and 3 are godly

If you're pvp you can't take hunter and scout isn't nearly as useful.

Also, someone claimed fletcher skills don't demount despite the info in the pastebin. Is this true?
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someone make a 240 party
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>>155032535
>2016
>pastebin
Just delete that shit from the OP.
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Why is swaaz trying so hard to shitpost about Ohayou, cats, and 3j all of a sudden?

Did someone hurt his feelings recently?
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How much Crit Rate do you need to crit 50% of the time on Rexipher?
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>>155033993
Switched targets from CNL I see.
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>>155034678
He'd be doing the community a favor if he switched to Crimson instead
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>>155033993
probably lonely, I figure that the most shitposting and falseflagging/witch hunting comes from people who have become ostracized either by their own means or because of their groups becoming inactive.
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>>155033716
Is there a better list of things that dismount you?
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How do I make backstab hit for 50k per stab?
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>>155034906
>tfw you'll never feel lonely for your ToS crush is always there
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>>155035224
ies.ipf/skill.tsv

>EnableCompanion = YES
Requires you to be mounted to use (e.g.: all Cata/Lancer skills).
>EnableCompanion = BOTH
Can be used mounted and unmounted.

If it's blank, it can't be used mounted.
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Which abilities outside of lunge are worth points as a fencer? Sept Etoiles looks good. Is Attack Composee worth putting points into for spamming when everything else is on cd?
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>>155034906
swaaz needs a hug.
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>>155032046
MURBISH!!!!!!!!!!
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Insatiable
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Comfy is recruiting. We're in Telsiai, SEA server, we welcome anyone to join, especially new players and Varenans who'd like to reroll into our server.

We provide power leveling, help with quests, participate in hampster dungeon, GvG, party quests and other activities.

No class requirement, no level requirement, we take anyone. Play whatever you want. Don't like it? Reroll and we'll help you all over again. participation in PvP isn't compulsory, only requirement is that you're active.

Let me know if you have any inquiries.
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>>155032046
White spots were bothering me.
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>>155035338
tfw a friend had a huge crush on me and used to talk to me all the time and call me cute and everything but I was not ready for all this attention at the time and thought he was annoying and rejected him. But now he has moved on and doesn't even talk to me any more and now I feel kind of lonely.
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>>155037917
anyone else fucking LOVE murbish???
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>>155038291
anyone else love fucking Murbish?
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>>155038474
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i don't know but i want to eat a murbish now.
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>Get that really op event necklace
>have zero motivation to play

Why couldn't they have made timers only tick down when you are logged on
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Sapper rework when?
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>>155039209
After Sadhu, no one deserves more than Sadhu.
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>>155039371
Both need it very badly. They have almost no usefulness in later parts of the game. Sapper should've had WAY more utility, but instead they gave it damage with no scaling.
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>>155039371
>>155039853
>not Hunter
Play the game.
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>>155038849
>not sure if I want to put the OP necklace on my main or make a really danke alt for two weeks because no fucking motivation to play
R8 FUCKING WHEN
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>>155040012
Hunter has been reworked entirely once before. It's one of the best circles in the game, at least for PvP. It has it's own niche use and it's the best at it. Meanwhile, Sapper is subpar for everything, except spreading poisons.
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>>155032178
r8 ready at the end of the month
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Im making this:

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3115558f.1a21334a5165.1f44516a7a85.153545.153545

And theres nothing anyone can do to change my mind.
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Database is recruiting new friends!

To be completely honest, the guild is completely 100% dead, I have been unable to post recruitment notices due to my ban. As a result, I will be culling most of the inactive people in the guild and looking for newer players in search of a guild.

I aim for a friendly, helpful guild that will assist new players in any manner reasonably possible. From answering questions, to helping grind drops, to doing content together.
In time we may also participate in GBL and possibly GVGs if other guilds would be interested.

If you are interested, shoot Cattly a message in game!
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>>155040012
>Hunter
>bad
Take your own advice.
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>>155040178
>being this naive
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>>155040449
but IMC never lies to us
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>>155040472
Why would IMC do that, go on to post and only spread half truths.
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>>155040178
nope, second week of October at the earliest
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do Korean devs usually just blatantly lie to their customers about this stuff? This is my first non-western MMO
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>>155040669
ur dead works at imc I bet
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>>155040297
>those enormous rogue fucking tits about to fall out of her vest
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I fell for the meme fampai. Everyone here told me not to roll Chaplain and I still did. All I ever use is Last Rites and Aspergillum, why does Capella and Exorcismus suck such? I was promised an army priest and all I got was a glorified auto attack bot.
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>>155040012
I have a Hunter3Fwee
And a Cleric3Sadhu3

Play the game before talking shit.

Hunter is indeed weak and deserves a(nother) rework, specially since it relies so much in pet AI bugging or not, and even if doesn't bugs, it only has Snatching that while being really good, it's limited, everything else besides Growling and sometimes Retrieve is basically useless in PvE.

Sadhu has the most retarded concept of all classes, and the nerfs that even if removed wouldn't change Sadhu being horrible, just made it worse. A INT based class that has to be static in order to use the only damage spells that it has, OOB and Possesion - both cancelable. So you need to be in Safety Wall basically all the time if you want to do ANYTHING with the class, the flee attribute does shit because Sadhu don't have DEX/Nothing scales with it to benefit from that. Transmit Prana is the only support skill that actually makes the supporter weaker to make someone else stronger, while other classes get free +250%/300% dmg. You can't even compare Sadhu with other classes, it's just horrible in everything.
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>>155040334
>due to my ban
Who would want to join a guild led by a shitposter?
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>>155040334
Catboys...
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>>155041546
Shitflinging is shitposting too, I hope you realize. I was banned quite some time ago, entirely unrelated to /tosg/ and the things I post do not indicate how I act as a leader.
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>>155041546
Shitposters probably would.
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>>155041248
Capella doesn't suck in parties if you use daino scrolls so you don't piss people off. Dunno what you expected though, it's got two whole skills that exist only to add a damage line so of course it was gomna be a basic attack bot.
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How do I stop my pet from using Growling other than going really far away from it?

How much XP per hour would I get from grinding Maven with a decent group? Didn't seem like there were a lot of mobs there when I did my quests. Also, would people accept a deadweight Linker2 in there, considering the Nuo are immune to JP?
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>>155041456
anon do the shared attributes from hunter and fwee stack?
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>>155042160
I guess I expected more, I havent joined a single party because I dont have Cleric yet and dont want to be useless.
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http://steamcharts.com/app/372000

How do you feel about this
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>>155042423
Cleric 2*
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>>155042554
Nobody actually cares, heal 5 + mass heal 10 is adequate for grind parties. The only people that complain are archers that mindlessly move away from everyone else and end up not getting mass healed often.
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>>155042549
stop posting the same comment every two hours faggot
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>>155042549
The same way we feel every fucking time you post it. Nothing.
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>>155042678
hes going to want to kill himself when he reaches r7 though and realizes he had to pick between krivis or cleric
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>>155042203
They don't show up twice. The shared attributes between Pelt and Rodelero do not, either.
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>>155042549
the population hasnt dropped for weeks, we're above the MMO standard for population and r8 is going to be our Legion, feelsgoodman
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>>155040334
Is this a false flag?
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>>155043553
no it's just Cattly
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Anyone else think that "Kinte" kind of sounds like Cunt?
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Well, gonna do the same.

I am looking for new people.
We are small but we do WBs and when people are online GBL too now with the new times, currently at rank6 in it, participations for both isn't mandatory but the more people come the merrier
Of course there is the part of if you need help for anything you just have to ask and help is provided whenever possible.
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>>155043553
No. I haven't been able to post recruitment notices and we only had 20 or so players that slowly hemorrhaged out due to mostly being newer players that were unlikely to stick around. We still have about five or so active players that I see sticking around long-term.
>>155043641
Hello!
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>>155043707
Cunte?
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>>155040297
>>155041192
Reminder that lalaco is a faggot that stutters and roleplayers as a little girl while shitposting and samefagging on 4chan
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Someone needs to tell him
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>>155044002
Capy you didn't mention we are on the Fedimian server
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Are mounted dragoons still viable?
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>>155042817
So I pick Cleric 2 at R6. What's supposed to happen at R7?
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>>155044749
But m-muh pyro2 attribute!
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>>155045023
dragoon c2 is one of the strongest r8 classes so I don't see why not.

Although you might miss spear bark
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>>155045126
this is kind of where it gets messy since you have Chaplain which is a pretty useless R5 where you could've taken more Cleric

You can go Kabbalist, PD or Oracle.

Kabbalist is a PvP option with Revenge 7 instakilling people

PD has bloodletting and healing factor which are both strong

Oracle is a utility circle with its own version of bloodletting and counterspell

The problem is that by time you hit R7 you realize that you could've had something like Krivis for Daino if you were full support or Oracle for your r6

Also R8 options are so weird for support clerics. Inquisitor, Taoshi, PD2 are all offensive classes, Kabbalist 2 is your only "support" option.
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>>155045854
I do have another cleric that has Krivis and will soon be getting Pardoner to supply Daino scrolls. To be honest at no point I even considered using my Chap for PVP.
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Can we all just start warring on Klaipeda. So many people are so passive as fuck its pathetic. Reroll used to be a joke but they never gave up and now they are a force to be reckoned with.

Vice versa, ever since neutrality the lot of you fuccbois snipped your own nads off and have gotten soft.

I think war on a larger scale would be a good thing, a lot of people are so disheartened and melancholic instead of determined because there isn't enough conflict. It also spews out into these threads with name dropping and witch hunting bullshit.

So fuck you all, if you AND your guild leaders were not pussies we would all be at war and all be able to blow off steam AND be able to compete and make ourselves even more determined to improve. The only way you would not see this to be true is if you are a

COWARD
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>>155044002
Who is still playing in the guild?
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>>155046657
k
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>>155032046
Muruburubububururururbitch
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You winnin' your open world GvG battles son?
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>>155046657
t.Trigerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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How's lancer class?
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can anyone tell me how +elemental property attack stats on equipment work? Like would it be worth getting +fire property attack on pyro?
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>>155047640
It just adds elemental property to each of your attack, at the very end. You don't have to match the element of your skills, either. You could get +ice on your pyro skills and it'd be the same.
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>>155046220
t.lalacunt
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>all of the klaipedan guilds aren't warring the same to bully them out of the open world
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I'm a level 157 BRbarian with card level 166. Should I be grinding bees until level 165 or can I sacrifice my penis to the Gods of grinding to just boost me to level 175 right away?
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>>155048556
Did you do the 130 and 145 at least 3 times each and missions daily?
If yes you're safe to card up.
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>>155048556
use cards when they get you to like 177
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>>155048687
I can't do missions or dungeons because I don't have pelt
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>>155048193
Everyone is invited to wardec Futureproof. We love that shit.
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>>155047793
thanks
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>>155048837

What the fuck are you talking about
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>>155048837
did you mean:
>because I don't have brain
?
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>>155046657
Chill the fuck out mang, it's a game. You wanna war for real join the army bitch boy.
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>introduce guild neutrality
>don't put in any drawbacks for being neutral
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>>155049493
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>>155049042
Whenever I do dungeons the only thing I can sort of do is pseudopull with warcry. I can't force myself to do dungeons when I can practically see the "Good build" comments before they're even typed. I alone have the power to time out the dungeon.
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>>155049645

What

You're a Barbarian aren't you

Why don't you just Cleave shit
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>>155049156
What if he did, got stationed in the middle of nowhere, and has nothing left to do but post on the internet and maintain jeeps?
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>>155032509
>>155032509

>shrug
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>>155049814
It eats up mana like a dirty whore.
And it doesn't do much damage.
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>>155049927

What

Show me your class progression, skills and stats
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>>155049917
>Cataphract circle 3
>Class level 10
>Trot not maxed
AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>155049894
Then he should start shooting natives.
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https://u.pomf.is/rvuvgv.png
https://u.pomf.is/bcyiib.png And Seism level 10
https://u.pomf.is/ldncdq.png
I've also got level 75 tier gear because I'm poor.
I have a skill and stat reset potion, but I clearly have no clue what I'm doing.
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>>155050715
>sword2
>1/10 Pain Barrier
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>>155050715

Skill and stats wise you're fine, nothing damning

Go get yourself a Lapis Katzbalger, upgrade it to +5, check your recipes that you pick up along the way and make yourself a decent armor

Buy jew buffs before mission/dungeon

Seism/Helm Chopper and Cleave shit, since you're not a pelt, you're a DPS swordie. Go act like one.

Invest in attributes when you have money
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>>155051165
Lucky me, I've been using a Lapis for the longest time. Plate or leather?
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>>155051354

Full plate, upgrade the attribute to max (50).
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>>155051165
Also at 157 am I too late to do anything in the 145 dungeon?
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I don't get the whole pizza thing
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>>155051472
For exp, probably. But it's never too late to do 145 dg for silver if you are strong enough to solo it in a timely manner.
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>>155051472
145 is ok till 160 or even 162 but getting low ofc
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>>155051472

Still in the level range for it, just don't use EXP tomes.
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>>155051635
hes a payed shill of some italian bakery
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>>155049493
>Draw back for not being forced in PvP

PvP fags are hilarious.
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>>155051635
Retarded private joke only you know who and his clique understands.
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>>155052794
Uh, yeah? Is that a foreign concept to you or what? Is risk vs reward alien to you too?
Kind of like how in a game like Dark Souls you can play through the game as a Hollow but it cuts you off from co-op.

>include world GvG as a main feature on your store page
>show guilds fighting over bosses in trailers
>doesn't actually happen in game because everyone can just be neutral and there are absolutely zero benefits to declaring war
Like, wow, okay, what an amazing system.
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>>155051635
Has something to do with Cat's build
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>>155053695
>m-muh forced PvP ;_;
kek, kyss yourself shitter
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>Hit 160 on alt
>Even with the supposed "improvement," nobody queues for the dungeon

So am I gonna have to leech some bee ex pee or what.
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>>155053695
You know you're replying to that guy, right? You should quit before you get baited again.
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>>155053836
Damn, what are you doing here? You should be in a debate hall.
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>>155053695
Kill yourself pvp shitter.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cheat-report-klaipeda-bluehound-using-aoe-and-equipment-hidden-slots-in-team-battle-league/326639/233

>PS: its the weekend im not like someone here who plays 24/7 just because they have no life, I'm eating sushi right now, typing this as I wait for my order. nomnomnom PvP is Love PvP is Life.
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>>155044558

Reminder that lalaco is a cute girl that gets bit nervous and stutters sometimes and tries her best to make cute and informative posts, it's up to you to be a good onii-chan and comfort and encourage her.
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>>155054108
Your parents have never been proud of you.
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>>155053862
I actually quested up to 178 before hitting a wall, but yeah, no one does 160 just out of habit (that fucking poison boss, too).
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>>155049927
>And it doesn't do much damage.
This is wrong
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>>155054376
>tries her best to make cute and informative posts
kek
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>>155053862
If you did 130 and 145 at least 3 times each along with missions you'll be fine.
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>>155054376
yeah sure.
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>>155046657
Go to work, you're never getting that bracelet, and GVG is never coming back.
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>>155054376
That faggots post got deleted.
So did the one about his cosplay pics.
Confirmed for same fagging and forcing and perpetuating the myth that he's a girl with cosplay pics.
I'm going to presume you're one of his little CnL orbiter clique.
You guys are cancer and need to be purged from these threads.
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>>155055570
>CNL being purged before ebin Ohayou murbish memers
You're not wrong but we need priorities here.
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>>155053836
>tfw keep reading kys as kiss yourself softly
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/jd9f4yw76s/

Opinions? Not sure when for rank 7
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>>155055838
Reminder that Database was once named Kysses and I probably would have joined if it stayed that way.
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>>155056318
sounds gay desu
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>do nothing
Nothing happens
>do it
17% quits

Why should IMC add this again?
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So do things like arde or elemental damage on hats even matter at r8? Like 25 ice damage oh boy, meanwhile the ability has 8000 base damage
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>>155056462
except even more people would comeback and reroll all their builds which would counterbalance out the quitter

And if IMC sells Circle resets for TP they'll make a killing :^)
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>>155056462
>do nothing
>Nothing happens
But that's wrong.
The game has been bleeding players and will continue to do so as people get tired of rerolling after every major balancing patch or rank addition.
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>>155056558
endgame hats are just stuff like HP, Movement Speed, Attack Ratio and Crit Rate
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>>155056460
I mean the leader and the coleader are gay so...
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>>155056120
PD accomplishes nothing in this build.
Drop it for Oracle2 or Monk1.

Monk1 gives you Double Punch and makes grinding easier.
Oracle2 improves Prophecy and gives Death Sentence for PvP.
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who here would buy a circle reset for 279 tp
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>>155056916
>Oracle 2
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>>155057019
>only 279 TP
Wow that's too cheap, should be 499TP.
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>>155057019
desu I wouldn't buy a circle reset since I made so many damn characters that I dont even have any builds I regret that I havent fixed on an alt.
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Question fampai. Is the elememe good for anything besides memecloud? The other spells looks slightly useful but I never see anyone mentioning them.
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>>155057215
>Is the elememe good for anything besides memecloud?
No.
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>>155057150
What is 499 in burgerbucks? 30? Way too much. Fifteen is the sweet spot.
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>>155057215
stone curse and memeteor are fun to use in PvP

I've also been killed through my own icewalls because of electroCUTE
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>>155057150
279tp is fine for c2, then 379 for c3, 479 for c4, etc. :^)
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Hunter skills rely on the pet's stats correct? I've never owned a pet, so I'm not sure to invest in for my pet. Health?
As for myself, 2:1 DEX:STR should be fine?
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>>155056916
PD accomplishes nothing in any build but Death Sentence is bad in PVP. It's a rank 1 debuff.
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>>155056916
That's why PD has no points in it.
How much extra strike damage is Double Punch? I feel like taking a rank 5 damage class at rank 7 is a bad idea.
Any suggestions for stat layout?
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>>155057039
>>155057510
Thanks for the (you)s, friends.
The other PvP choice is Kaba for R7x.
PD was a bad pick in the original build, so it's not like you're losing much by switching it for Oracle2.

Oracle2 gives you options as Oracle3 gives you another invincibility effect for support should you change your mind from Inquisitor.
Kaba2 gives you jackshit for PvP, and Kaba1 has no synergy with Inquisitor aside from R7x being ridiculously OP and gives nothing for PvE.
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>>155057496
Put your silver into your gear and your attributes first. Pet comes last.
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>>155056120
dont listen to what >>155056916 says

monk1 wont make grinding much easier, double punch is nice but once you hit 220 zones you're fucked anyway and oracle's death sentence is dispellable by ANY cleric's cure. im pretty sure his build is one of those really hard to kill ones if you go high/full con because of all the damage and status negation. can't comment on inquisitor though.
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>>155057496
Only Rushdog is based on pet stats.
HP is the best bet.
Mind explaining why you want STR instead of full DEX?
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>>155057607
>kabbalist
>tier 2
>wugushi
>tier 1 when antidotes exist
Try making it into the top 10 or playing on a server besides Fedimian before you make a tier list.
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>>155057531
It's 30% strike damage.
The bonus on God Smash in PvE will be noticeable.
In between god smashing the wheel you spam DP on the wheel spreading the strike debuff instead of auto-attacking.

PvP stats for physical people are usually 2:1 DEX:CON, but the owls will benefit more from INT than physical stats.
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>>155057629
>>155057646
Ok, thanks.

>Mind explaining why you want STR instead of full DEX?
Honestly I'm not sure, I haven't played with archer for an extensive length of time. I'm not sure what's best for them. Is going full DEX wiser than 2:1?
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>>155055570
But that isnt me, and i already said a couple of times the cosplay stuff isn't real!
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>>155058052
You'll dodge more stuff and get more crits which will end up doing more damage.
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>>155057937
I thought the wheel didn't spread debuffs? 30% is pretty major. So pearls can crit using the dex then? That's pretty scary.
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>>155058052
>>155058289
Full dex on an archer and you'll overcap with good gear.
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>>155058347
If you stack crit gear and for some retarded reason. Not even full DEX with greens on weapons will get you to cap alone.
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>>155058470
>If you stack crit gear and for some retarded reason
Why the fuck wouldn't you that?
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>>155058228
You're not proving anything with that screenshot because that was a reply to the post calling you out.
So of course there wouldn't be a (you)
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>>155058689
>sissels when anti-dark exists now
Not everyone is a shitter.
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>>155058341
In this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vflKlWYj51k
Armor Break and One Inch Punch are applied when the Inquis hits the wheel.

The wheel is confirmed to spread Conviction, but it looks like DP doesn't spread the debuff with the wheel.
Not taking monk means you miss out on the best wheel filler skill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17n9Xyrfglo
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someone explain to me the dark resist stacking meme
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>>155058857
i'm dumb
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>>155058860
>PvP
Oh, it's an hunter build so of course it's pvp, you're right.
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>>155058289
>>155058347
So it's best to go full DEX? Ok.
How much CON should I have? 50?
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>>155059062
>take 80% less damage from bats, theurge, meme pole, hexing effigy
If you need this explained you'll never be good enough to need that gear.
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>>155056318
I wasn't a fan of that name.
>>155056854
He is not the co-leader.
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>>155059335
>he thinks PvP is the focus of the game
>>
>special someone
>not in my life
fuck my shit up
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>>155056627
But that's wrong. It lost players because of bugs and removing content, and now you're trying to remove more. Shouldn't you be sticking to "the WoW formula made money so you have to imitate it to get the masses!" which involves having frequent patches and expansions completely shake up balance?
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For a Fencer, https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111666ee.23374a5a.5a6a8191aabd.112a3a446171
or
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111666ee.23374a5a.5a9faaba.142a3a446171
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>>155059452
>he thinks any archer except SR is relevant in anything else
>HUNTER no less
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>>155059126
Yes you are dumb.
And even if you're not samefagging you're still an annoying roleplaying stuttering little faggot.
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>>155057607

>Wugushi in tier 1

Don't ever try and advise people about this game again.
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>>155059329
Oh, on the topic, can anyone comment on my hunter build?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311228eg.1a284a5161.19273a41516171.15213445.112135455162.142331455161
Not sure if I should go hunt3 instead of falconer
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>>155059321
>>155059062
It's not dark, it's rheyvis or whatever it's called, that gives 15 CON each.
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>>155060102
It's not quite offensive as Kabbalist not being alone in S+ tier but that's still some first week TBL retardation.
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>>155060181
>15 CON
12
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>>155059743

Of course you have to come here to vent your little grudge on her anonymously you passive aggressive cuck.
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>>155060181
Anti-dark and broken anti-dark are required for it.
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>>155060296
wtf why nerf them
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>>155060374
Yeah anti-darks are the hardest to get but it's not them that are your end goal.
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>>155059452
PvP is the endgame of any MMO
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Is the easiest thing to craft for the white hair achievement still zalia leather boots?
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>>155060325
>Her
Still doing this when he just admitted the cosplay posts are bullshit.
You're the cuck little orbiter.
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Some of y'all need to chill
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>>155033993
ive never shitposted about cats, 3j is another story. if you honestly think only 1 person on the internet doesnt like you then you have issues
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>>155060637
>PvP is the endgame of any MMO

KEK
>>
>Current Year
>Still believing there are girls on the internet
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>>155061054
This would have been a shitpost but the fact that you used one of dvine's favorite reaction images made it fantastic.
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>>155061036
Could you two just fuck and get over it?
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>>155033993
Everyone shits on 3j though, because 3j is an outsider and tries way too hard to fit in. They bring it on themselves.
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>>155033993
>3j deleted their own hamster
>blamed it on Swaaz
>cried until Swaaz left Ohayou hours after joining
I wish Swaaz would have stayed, and 3j would have left.
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>>155060637
>>155061054
>>155061175
PvErs are MMOhoppers, PvPers are players that stay in a single game and actually achieve stuff. MMO companies can't add content as fast as PvErs are able to consume, but that guy you just killed WILL come back for you to kill him again.

Soon PvErs will be gone entirely.
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>>155061357
Me too desu,
but he got also buthurt about not being let into beets uphill so there was nothing that could be done
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>>155061357
this desu 3j is the only thing i dont like about this guild, at least out of the people who have already joined
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>>155061328
>>155061357
>>155061421
>>155061451

>this much samefaggotry
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>>155059536
Grab restrain, 1 helm chopper is fine, probably want to save most of your fencer points for c3 so 1 sept I guess
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>>155061357
>>155061421
>>155061451
Swaaz stop fucking samefagging
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>>155061451
>>155061421
>>155061357
Swaaz back on damage control
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>>155061328
>>155061421
>>155061451
>>155061357
w E w L a D
E
w
L
a
D
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>>155061532
I have restrain maxed right now and I NEVER use it.
Also isn't Sept one of Fencer's main damage skills?
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>>155061357
>>155061421
>>155061451
chill out lmao
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>>155061357
wait 3j blamed me for his hamster dying? for putting it next to the tower while we had 15+people do a group photo inside the guild camp?
this is hilarious, i hope he thinks its me. shitstain deserves everything hes ever loved to die slowly
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>>155061912
>>155061787
>>155061661
>>155061584
>>155061517
MAXIMUM OVERKEK
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>>155062104
I appreciate the photoshopped out (You)s! Have another.
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>>155061419
t. Lolipan
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>the CnL shitposter isnt 100% unlikable
>h-he's samefagging! im sure of it!
>>155061421
beethoven typed in guild chat "uphill anyone" i replied "yes please ill also have food buffs"

he then proceeds to duo it with korasi, yes he chose to duo it and excludes his own guild. i then asked him why and he replies "sorry i like duo with friend"

http://imgur.com/a/bxa0m
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>>155062429
>ohayou is megacancer and the only people who like beethoven are his clique and like 3 people from futureproof
news at 11
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>>155062504
and all of Clover
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>>155062429
uphill scales with the number of entrants, he probably didn't want you making it more difficult while contributing next to nothing as a squire tbqh
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>>155062558
>clover
Obligatory dead guild and half of us didn't actually want the merger, it was a sudden surprise and nobody really had a choice.
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>>155062641
lv10 tent + lv10 table = max level food buffs
pelt3 = lv15 taunt can solo magical mobs past round 20+ with taunt + simple heals
my build is literally made for uphill, its not my problem hes ignorant by choice
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>namedrop defibrillator
We need to just let this game go. This is embarrassing.
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>>155062429
Did you read the guild chat
1/2 Was testing the mechanics
You were Welcome to join them for the 2nd
But you got to burthurt and left
max kek
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>>155062764
Swaaz. It's time to stop.
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>>155062429
he didn't want you in uphill beacuse your class is fucking useless for it
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>>155062764
You can't say anything negative about Ohayou here, as they are a guild literally founded on the concept of trying to get all of the thread celebs and shitposters into a single guild. There's no point. This is just Ohayou general now.
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>>155062857
nothing of this sort was said, and yes i can read. i left like 30 mins after they did uphill. i didnt rage quit
kinte 2.0 elitist greedy fuckers
>>155062959
play the game
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>>155062717
>no choice
Stay guidless or join another guild. That simple
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>>155062980
>You can't say anything negative about Ohayou here

I can and I will.

Ohayou is fucking cancer, not each member, but the whole mob is just a big mass of shit and shitposting.
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>>155063179
That's what a lot of us did.
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>>155062980
senpai ive been shitposting since closed beta, ive been here all summer. check the closed beta meetup pics. also my name was "feminism" in icbt1. i dont plan on stopping
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>>155062717
I would be pretty mad if my guild was suddenly disbanded instead of transferred because someone wanted to hop on the free tp train
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>>155063042
No you left during uphill
And Yes he did the 2nd uphill was full of ohayou and got to 30
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>>155063280
incorrect, however you're free to happily live your life ignorant by choice in your circle jerk clique guild with 3j. somebody has to contain him
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>>155063279
Yep, it was pretty fucking infuriating, honestly. I basically only log in to do Saalus and events now and talk in town a bit, IMC is killing this game but Clover suddenly being torn out from under our feet is what killed it for me I think.
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>>155063205
but each member individually is likeable, how could this be possible?
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>>155063374
being this butthurt, jesus
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>>155063374
swaaz calling people ignorant
you can't make this shit up
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If FOE is shit how come on the rare occasions I see and inspect FOEs they're all rich with RMT tier gear?
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>>155061419
I think this is the only MMO I've played where a large portion of the playerbase's opted out of doing endgame PvE entirely because it's too hard under the excuse of "the gear will be obsolete in a few months".
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>>155062764
HAHAHAAHAHAHA
This is gold
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>>155064730

>Too hard

Play the game, ET is a snoozefest if you have enough damage to clear the DPS check floors.
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>>155064424
exploit
>>
Hahaha subhuman Ohayoutards.
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>hate ohayou because they shitpost constantly
>still report people shitposting about them because they're no better
These are complicated feelings.
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>this thread
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>>155065273
Hot
Sauce
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>sry i leik duo with fried
Did he really mean anything by this?
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>>155056587
>>155056462
The biggest problem with this shit is;

1, trusting IMC to code something like this when they have trouble coding a query if players who have done pvp this week to update a rankings list

and 2, getting the to code it right so that you need the same amount of exp in the class that you reset to bring it back and to prevent people from removing the second circle and replacing it with a second rank 7 class because we all know thats how broken the coding will be.
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>>155065343
apparently this translates to "sure friend, just wait a minute im doing another run after this with guild"
maximum damage control
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>>155065615
reminder that IMC changed Cleave to Overheat 3 and for months it would CRASH THE CLIENT upon use
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>>155065770
It still does. Not sure how to reproduce it though, it's entirely random afaik.
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>>155067378
even IMC doesnt understand how it works
>>
>Look at thread

This is why I'll never namefag. I hope none of you ever mention me, ever.
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#PrayForOhayou
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>>155065770
I think it has to do with the fact that it applies a debuff and a buff now. Using Clevave on many linked targets freezes my game for a second
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>>155046657
Say that to my fucking face, who are you calling a coward' I didn't even read your fucking post, but I am not a fucking coward, come on, COME AT ME with it, come on, motherfucker, say that to my face!
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>>155067378
more mobs higher chance.In my uneducated opinion i think it has to do with the red splash texture because its only prominent whenever my screen freezes on crashes but it isnt as noticable during a normal non-crashing cleaves, but what do i know
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>>155067750
I've been there before
>be successful
>people use your name in threads because for good reason
>newfags and jealous people don't like this
>become a living meme for a month
>everyone forgets next month
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>>155065331
Atonement Camp, up on e-hentai
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>>155067830
not as exciting as FP vs 200 dung
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>>155068281
[NaCl intensifies]
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>>155067937
chances are i still like you. children will always be children, dont let them get you down
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Where can I get the warmode addon?
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>>155068551
It's called fpssavior from addon manager.
>>
What skills should I be leveling as a PvE Dragoon?
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>>155068551
It's garbage. You gain absolutely nothing from disabling particles and spell effects except that you won't be able to see enemy aoes.

Particles aren't the cause of shitty performance. You can see how the fps drops in fedimian when you get near the statue even though there are no spell effects there.
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>>155068751
is IMC ever going to fix the particle effects?
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Ohayou is a joke
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>>155069034
Leave Ohayou alone
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>>155068910
There's nothing to fix. They need to fix the actual cause of shitty perfs in gvg. And nobody knows what it is.

IMC's retarded charts and "particle batching" memes didn't do a thing.
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>>155069034
like your sexual life :^)
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>>155069034
Yes.
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>that bluehound autism
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>>155069034
Did they lose another match?
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>>155069164
Is that a final fantasy summoner ohayou?
>>
>>155056120
>>155057573
This is my gvg support build, so i can tell you that in pvp this build will never land incinerate without help from cryo/kino. On the other hand, you are also hard to kill.
Prophecy is a 100% uptime but some class like cata3 will shred your prophecy like nothing, bloodletting will cover this weakness nicely.
You can ignore occasional damage aimed at you while under healing factor, they need burst damage to get past the regen

In pve this build deal consistent damage and i always managed to grab rank 1-3 unless there's a fletcher around. It require abit of setup with owl and statue, mind you

Regarding r8, PD2 will give you more offensive option with plague vapor+pandemic (very decent range unlike incineration shitty hitbox)

While r7 kaba also fit this build, i have some doubt regarding it's r8 choice because kaba2 are dogshit and inquisitor without paladin/monk kinda suboptimal

Oracle3 will give you a moving circle with a CHANCE to negate damage, lv1 debuff and meme ability to change gender.
I seriously advise you to avoid oracle2 because it give you nothing and oracle3 in general just underwhelming
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>>155069230
sometimes

>>155069301
duno. idc
>>
FWEEEEEE!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>155057607
Play the game.

S can carry their own build with just those circles, A is usually good or well off but can depend on your team and B relies heavily on some form of set up or other circles to help them out.
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>>155069659
All my characters are Don't Fucking Queue tier.
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>>155067830
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>>155070047
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>>155070047
First time I notice the loser's guild symbol is not only gray, it's shattered.
That's cruel.
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>>155069230
we lost to Crimson again today
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>>155070547
Good. Too bad your losses probably won't be counted for the ranking.
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>>155070047
>>155070246
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>>155035641
How do I use it? It's just a bunch of gibberish
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>>155070047
daily reminder

http://www.strawpoll.me/11210908/r
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>>155069659
SW S
I thought the meme was SW sucked?
Are we liking SW ironically now?
>>
>>155071098
Can i get a translation please? I dont understand retard nor acronyms retards use.
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How's Paladin's conversion thing? Can you semi-afk grind with it?
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>>155071085
Reminder that pozgarden rigged the poll, going into aeroplane mode and back on his phone for hours.
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>>155071239
>implying
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>>155071206
Depends on the spot. Converted mobs behave kind of like the shoggot. They don't persist when you zone and you can only convert one mob per skill level.
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>>155071085
who cares

but
http://www.strawpoll.me/6281831
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>>155071337
>One mob per skill level

So I can only have 10? I mean I guess that's not too bad. What about Restoration? Is it like a heal over time or what? It isn't explained very well.
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>>155071523
Restoration is just an HP Recovery buff.
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Jesus Christ I don't know how people actually fucking do missions if you aren't a cleric with Fade 5+.

Seriously I'm partying right now and I keep getting people almost 20 levels above. Boss oneshot fest and EXP Penalty out of the ass.
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>>155071419
Please be kind. I do not feel it is necessary to continue posting that.
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>>155071523
>10 converted mob

In theory you can, but this is IMC so you get bugged mobs if you converted more than 2-3
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>>155071330
Dotardgarden won't be able to set foot in Kateen next week thanks to the war.
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>>155071419
who is he?
>>
>>155059536
For now, leave composee at 1, so that you can max out the new skills once c3 comes.

After that, we need to see if lv 15 sp pots and your wallet are able to sustain a high level composee. Current level 10 pots can barely sustain a lv 3 composee spam.
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>>155071754
Cattle

a class tosg poll
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>>155071523
restoration increases HP regen amount (and SP regen amount with attribute). What it doesnt say is that it increases heal tile effectiveness while under its effects. Tiles from Cleric C1 = +10%, Cleric C2 = +50%, Cleric C3 = +100%
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>>155071805
>classic
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>>155071740
I will be there to protect her.
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>>155070047
GET hook64d Ohaycuck BITCHES
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>>155071612
>>155071847
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/2r5e9ssncv/

So it's kind of important then? What about Turn Undead? That one seems pretty shitty.

>>155071725
Is that common or only sometimes? Bugged how? Conversion is all that makes paladin seem interesting to me.
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>>155071914
Wow, Toho poster! Great moves, keep it up, proud of you!
>>
That feel when going to come for the meatup for the first time in months just to fuck up cuck■■■■■■.
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>>155067937
jokes on you ive been hated for months all because i exposed a single druid in a tosg guild for channel crashing "without namedropping, just said "a druid" and now half the thread is always acting like threejane when they see my name
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>>155072049
1 point in restoration is enough.
Same for Turn Undead. The instakill effect is pretty useful.
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>>155072074
Don't mess with me!!
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>>155072049
>Is that common or only sometimes

Only sometimes, but you need to change channel or re-enter the instance because the converted mobs will just stand there doing nothing
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>>155070047
friendly reminder that i do this every GvG and 90% of the time im the only one doing damage to a guild tower
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>>155072685
>webm for ants
oh cmon
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>>155072685
t. swaaz
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>>155071740
Implying they won't be erping
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>>155071178
I'm 72% confident to say he means SR when saying SW.
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>>155072074
VapeNation
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>>155072812
Ohhh! Okay.

>>155071098
SR in 5v5 can eliminate the entire team if they arent expecting it in a matter of seconds. They really are only weak against kabbalists and cataphracts.
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>>155072760
theres a reason nobody here posts 60 second webm's of this game, because they will always look like shit
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>>155072934
>They really are only weak against kabbalists and cataphracts
Wow just like 80% of the S Rank.
Put both of those in some SS rank.
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>>155071626
>Fewer people do missions because of this
>IMC "solves" this by raising the level difference limit to 30
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>>155073827
Is this real?

Holy shit.
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>>155072049
Turn Undead is futureproof, instant killing 300k hp mobs always feels nice. Plenty of demons and mutants in this game for it to work on. 4 is enough, you typically dont fight more than 7 mobs at a time
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>>155073071
Feel free to edit it yourself.
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>>155073909
It will be

= )
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>>155074183
>all classes
>no Centurion
Nah, I'm too lazy
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>>155074274
sayonara centuri-san
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>>155070798
You open it with a excel/calc whatever spreadsheet editor you have.

Here, since I was bored with this shit game I made this for you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d4vfhryr9ysr7w9YwrHWWg8ZsQUJOOX8_vzPABmiLCA/edit?usp=sharing

Green row = can be used while mounted
Red row = can't be used while mounted
Yellow row = can ONLY be used while mounted

This is iTOS skill file, if someone can upload the korean one I could do the same, I uninstalled it so I don't have access to its files anymore.
>>
jokes on you as a squire i can arrest everyone and run around as a useless sack of shit. dont put me in the same group as a templar
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>>155074649
but what about prophecy and bloodletting
>>
>>155074649
why not just go Corsair for hook?
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>>155074649
>as a squire i can arrest everyone and run around as a useless sack of shit
Yes
but...

not at same time :^)
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>>155074765
we dont talk about that
>>155074937
corsairs dont exist, iron hook is a myth. imc wouldnt give a dps class a better support skill than a full-support class. silly goyim
>>155075090
god damnit
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>>155074368
>Ranger_ArrowSprinkle
>Sapper_DamageTrap
>Scout_Beprepared
>Rogue_Spoliation
>Falconer_DungOfFalcon
>Rogue_BrandishBow

>things that will never happen
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>>155074274
Itll be back again one day
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>>155075298
>Falconer_DungOfFalcon
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mfw i feel depressed everyday for not abusing the class exploit during closed beta to experience centurion
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>>155074765
>>155074937
>>155075090
delete this
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>>155075547
What's the class on the middle top? With the egg on head?
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>>155075773
A very sad class.
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>>155075773
The saddest class in the game
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AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>155075773
We don't talk about that one.
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the plot thickens
maximum squire shitposting damage control
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>>155076084
AWW SHIT KUBAS UP???
>>
Anyone from Telsiai?

What tiem is the TBL?
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>>155075773
The one where no matter which emote you press, its always the cry emote thats shown
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Which of these is a better choice of a build?

Archer2>Quarrel3>Falcon>Musketeer
Archer3>Quarrel>Scout>Falcon>Musketeer
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>>155076621
For pve build 1 no contest
For pvp reroll a cleric
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>>155076853
I already have a cleric made, anon
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Just came back after a couple month break, thinking of making an Archer. Is Falconer 3 going to be a thing with R8? I really want the bird.
>>
>>155076621
>Qs1 with A3

For what purpose
>>
What class has the best maintenance to money made ratio?
>>
>>155077328
Necro is literally a bot class
>>
>>155077160
Then make another one
>>
>>155076853
>>155077420
Would I do better to take cannoneer in place of musket?
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>>155076157
Go sleep azebu
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Everyday until you give us Korasai back.
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>>155078183
Killed me on my monk grats :(
>>
Can you guess which one is use for RMT?
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>>155078183
>Lolipan has defeated...

well shit. and once again, Ohayou lost the war
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>>155078380
top two
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>>155078183
>Lolipan has defeated Beethoven of Ohayou
>>
>>155078183
>defeated someone
>on rodelero

this one counts for sure.
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>>155078564
spawned killed beethoven on a rank 5 meme sadhu monk
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>>155078564
beet was level 125
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>>155078670
>rolling a sadhu monk
Totally deserved it.
>>
>>155078945
>>155078670
They came to the Mage 4F with the specific intention of killing us. Not our fault he was on his lowbie alt, it was his choice.
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>>155078183
>wait for you all to fully zone in out of hammy before I attack because I'm not rude
>Simony immediately uses prophecy
Not fair! Simony never lets me have any fun!!
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>>155079072
isint 125 is mage tower level ?
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>>155079331
He wasn't there to quest or grind. Other Ohayous were around, and they specifically came to kill us after we finished our Hamster dungeon.

>>155079268
It took me a while to notice that we were under attack after I finished loading. I am surprised you didn't kill ANY of us.
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>>155079331
Korasai ambushed us outside of the hamster dungeon. Then, his cata friend came along and little by little Ohayou was getting in the map. We just happened to find Beethoven when he was loading into the map.
>>
Why don't Futureproof and Ohayou just take their best 5 people to battle at some point? That sounds kinda fun and maybe could see who has better comps or some shit. It's even at least, instead of ganking shit like I remember open GvG to be
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>>155079512
I was definitely there to quest
but to stop by to show you some awoooing
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>>155079559
>his
>>
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New fwee straight from #tosjp
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a fresh new Murubububururubububiatch
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>>155080164
Peltasta sluts are out of style. New hotness is to sexualize Fencers.
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>>155080715
Please don't
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>>155080207
Where are the doujinshis?
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>>155080705
anybody else fucking LOVE murbish????
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>>155080715
>Fencers
oh yes
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>>155080910
It's already underway, it cannot be stopped.

>>155080915
Looking forward to them, too.
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>>155081006
I don't have that one. Link me to the original.
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>>155081006
Please stop that.
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>>155081219
http://www.pixiv.net
member_illust.php?id=4696218

them tiddies are weird tho
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>>155080715

Reminder that boy peltas are pure.
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>>155081219
user/4696218/illust/59017533
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>>155081558
Yeah, found it already. Thanks.

Posting some Squire I found, too.
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>>155081512
Hehe, no.
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>>155081219
>a bunch of fencer art
>but little doppel and no Guerra
Why live?
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Which class do you want to make babies with?
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>>155081790
I figured you'd get tired of doing it, but it does not seem that way.
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>>155081842
Cryo or Sorc
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>>155081842
Im glad cryo is getting lots of love. The outfit is just too cute
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>>155078817
All those 1HP bars, but still surviving well.
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>>155081842
Rodelero still the cutest for me. Would make one into a mother.
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>>155081842
Thaumaturge is best
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IMC should implement an actual kissing emote, shouldn't they? As it stands now, when two people kiss they just stay like that for way too long! Like whole minutes at a time! It's way too intimate, they're probably doing all sorts of weird tongue and breath control things! Normal kisses aren't like that!

Just a quick two person kiss emote, that's all it should be!
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>>155081842
MIKO WHEN
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>>155083304
Hopefully soon.
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>>155083228
>kiss my steamcrush at a meetup
>ten minutes later we're still kissing
>ask her how long we're going to keep kissing
>she responds "until you stop!"
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>>155083304
>>155083415
but Mikos have to be virgins!
>>
>>155083626
Miko is a one-rank wonder, they can't be virgins forever
>>
How much does Restoration raise my heals by? Does leveling it change the amount I heal?
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>>155081842
I want to impregnate a Doppelsoldner.

Doubles the pleasure, triples the chance of conception.
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>>155081790
>text
edgy
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>>155083228
>Normal kisses aren't like that!
Ummmm
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>>155081006
i'm a little glad you censored that after checking it on pixiv.
>>
>>155074368
Oh, thanks.
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>>155084687
Hey, just what do you think you're implying with that "Ummmm"?
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>>155036498
Anon I'd like to join.
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>>155085161
Post your name here or try to contact Katzenberg in game, i'll message him if he's not online right now
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>>155085375
IGN: Eurymede

Thanks anon!
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>>155036498
>>155085161
>>155085703

Matsu needs more morning people to join for more WB goodness.
>>
>>155079825
They're never online at the same time since it'd probably be Triela, Rance, Cats, Ultracorn, and Simony vs. Kinte, Karga, Korasai, Beethoven, and Patsch.

But you're right, there's no clear winner and it'd definitely be interesting.
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>>155086221
Both leaders must be present or it'd be retarded
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>>155086456
The post said 5 best people
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>>155085703
You can take your filthy hooker ass somewhere else, faggot
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>>155086631
>installing malware for that
lol
>>
>>155086782
>he can't read Lua
Point and laugh
>>
>>155086910
I'm talking about the hook you tard
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>>155086956
>he can't read machine code
Point and laugh
>>
>>155069659
Most of these are right but PD is not S tier, they're B.
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>>155086631
>krivis2
>sadhu2
>using hook64 just to equip shitty item on hidden slots

Sadhu player, everyone
>>
>>155087591
kek
>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRq0QPHn6Z8
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>>155086221
>all of the top players from tosg's two rival guilds are friends
This is the worst part.
>>
>>155086221
someone should draw the line up like a fight night advertisement
>>
>>155086221
>all of the top players from tosg's two rival guilds are friends
This is the best part.
>>
I'm 217 and I'm tired as fuck of Alemeth. Normally I like grinding, but I hate this area. Are they any alternatives?
>>
>>155090193
card and go evac
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>>155089986
Is ToS going to have a WWE night? Every person walking in with their own theme and fireworks?

I wonder which wrestler they'd be
>>
>>155090321
>no luchadors in game
KIIIIIIIIIIIM
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>>155089986
Cats needs to set this up
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>>155090492
Wars over in 3 days or I would. Already been talking to Beets about it. Might happen anyway.
>>
>>155090641
It'd be perfect for the upcoming meetup
>>
>>155072685
I remember this.
Futureproof won this one.

Also why the fuck does Revenge seven fold reflect all of the multi hits of Barrage.

That doesn't even make sense. Multi hit feels like it's supposed to counter revenge seven fold, BUT NO.
>>
>>155091260
le true multihit
>>
>>155090605
It's obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xidu5lQrms
>>
>>155090605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwLLH9EZiqc
cats
>>
>>155090605
>>155091982

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62VASkbu1gw
>>
>>155090605
Beethoven is pretty obvious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
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>>155090605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA9Ctaqo3Zc

Me and crush
>>
Is it too late to start playing again
>>
>>155093350
you didnt miss much, so go ahead
>>
>>155093575
Log on to find that I don't have any friends that play anymore and was kicked from guild during my hiatus.
>>
>>155093770
clover refugee?
>>
I going to roll a full dps swordswomyn and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Also I'll make her black and call you racist if you don't let me join parties.
>>
>>155093950
CuteNotLewd. I never added that many people to my friends list because I would just chat through guild chat. Now I don't have contact with anyone. It was fun while it lasted, thought I would play a bit up to the release of rank8 and see if it gets better.
>>
>>155094059
just drop your name here and they will contact you
>>
>>155094142
I'm 2 shy
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>>155094201
you called yourself retarded, then just go and be retarded for once
>>
>>155094271
>for once
I'm always retarded. Either way, I don't I'd go back to cnl. I don't think I was liked in the first place, being semi-social and not a weeb. Maybe a new guild would be nice.
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>>155093350
Nope if you want to watch the world burn when Rank 8 comes out this month.

FutureProof has slots if you need a TOSG guild to watch it burn with you.
>>
>>155094716
Who do I ask to join FP? Are they still referred to future cucks? I stopped playing around the time everyone got fucking wrecked by some normie called atom and that was the topical drama then.
>>
>>155072074
You know what to do when you see an avatarfag.
>>
>>155094716
>when Rank 8 comes out this month.
next month, after this event ends
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>>155094834
Our GM Lolipan is offline, but please pm Cats and I'll add you as a friend and get you in.

Yes, we're absolutely Futurecucks, that's a thread meme forever. Fun group though, and we're one of only two guilds doing open-world GvG. We also got our second hamster today, but that's neither here nor there.

If you want friends to play with hit me up. If not, cheers! Try and have fun, and hopefully you'll say hi if you drop by the pits in Fedi.
>>
>>155094834
>Are they still referred to future cucks?
No, because FP is in fact on true life support
More sooner than later the OP here will be like this

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Fedimian, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>>155094716
>all new meta
T-they're going to give us class reset ? Right ??
>>
>>155095327
I'll get on sometime tomorrow and message you.
>>
>>155095436
Everyone claiming there's a class reset is hyping themselves up for disappointment based off one vague tease put up in an official account's comment stream somewhere.

You absolutely know that even if we really do get it IMC will find some way to bungle it in implementation, execution, or both.
>>
>>155095398
I thought FP was more alive than cnl. What happened?
>>
>>155095559
Ohayou
>>
>>155095605
Wasn't around when I quit, is it a branch of FP people?
>>
>>155095549
Something something bot prevention something thank you for the feedback.
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>>155095664
FP and more recently Clover refugee
It's the biggest and most active guild here
>>
>>155095739
Are they not liked?
>>
>>155095559
You fell for a thread meme, gratz.

We have 32/33 and 8 online at 1:30 am
>>
>>155095880
Get the fuck off the wrong coast.
>>
>>155095880
Sorry, don't keep up with memes
>>
>>155095917
Maybe he's just playing the game in between blowjob sessions ? Some of us are working members of society.
>>
>>155095917
West is best
>>
>>155095974
That isn't who you think it is and they're called moojobs.
>>
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Just got back into ToS, left off with a heal pally at 159. what should i be doing? Siauliau or w/e?
>>
>>155095559
They all moved to Fedimian just like everyone else, cuz tosg NEVER lies.
>>
>>155096189
Missions, dungeons, and questing
>>
>>155096241
Is that why there's only one tosg guild on fedi?
>>
>>155095870
Ohayou born after a literal "FUCK OFF LOLIPAN, i make a meme guild to just piss off people"
It's up to you to like it or not
>>
>>155096336
Coffee is in a worse state than FP probably
Really, people either quit or joined Ohayou
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>gonna do dungeon
>restock on pots
>enter dungeon
>see pots: 0
>bought but didn't retrieve
>>
>>155096470
I have no opinion
>>155096542
People joining ohayou means there's room in other guilds for me. Cool
>>
So how's your Panda Points progress going, anon?
>>
>>155096560
Go get them. Surely you aren't soloing it?
>>
>>155097117
auto-search parties dont even wait if a member dies to the boss, what makes you think they'll wait for a slacker who forgot his pots
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>>155090641
Make it happen. It's the only way this shitty GvG will amount to anything, and give one guild a fair and clear victory in some sense.

Though my bet's on FP since I think they have better synergy than Ohayou. Just have to even the numbers.
>>
>>155097395
Even if they don't wait, it won't take you that long to get potions and come back. Just tell them.

As for dying to the boss, what usually happens is the person dies with the boss at 1.5% hp and standing in 3 ground based DoT effects, and then instead of reviving, chooses to run back and then scream at everyone when the boss dies.
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I've never played an int class so I have a question. Is Int 1 point of damage per point? If so, would a spr priest blessing do the job better or would it not because three circles are being wasted on a support circle.
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>>155097878

1 int is generally 1 point of damage per hit (so an ability that hit 10 times 1 int is 10 damage, with a few exceptions). If you max the attributes for an ability then it's doubled so 1 int is 2 damage.

Also, as you rank up you gain a 10% bonus to int per rank. So by max rank each point you spend in int is worth more than 1 int.

Despite this though, it's generally not worth stacking lots of int. The damage bonus it provides is tiny and con is almost always a better investment.
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>>155086221
Karga wins
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>>155098121
You have no idea how damage works, do you?
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What is the current best mace in the game in terms of both phy and m.atk? Cata?
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So who do I consult for bees
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>>155098989
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>>155099246
Fuck you, Dreamworks-face.
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>>155098121
This is so retarded.
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>>155088192
good scroll
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Gosh, why do Brown Rambear magicians hardly spawn? I just wanna finish my kill count!
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Why is 160 dungeon so different from all the other dungeons?
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>>155099819

IMC put little to no thought or effort into dungeons. They are all literally reused maps with reused mobs just scaled to the dungeons level then given an exp modifier based on the dungeons level.

160 dungeon sucks because IMC used a tiny ass map with a small number of mobs and the mobs they picked for it don't particularly give great exp. So it's a shit dungeon.
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>>155099892
Okay but why does it progress differently than other dungeons do?
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>>155100031

Because they added some gimmick to it? Lots of dungeons have shitty little gimmicks to them that just waste time.
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>>155100130
The other dungeons are just running around however you feel like until you kill the right enemy or kill all the enemies in whatever order you feel like. What other dungeons have any sort of gimmick?
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Why are icon colors so wrong, this is how it should be:

* Sapper should be Yellow
* Ranger should be Blue
* Wugushi should be Yellow
* Sadhu should be Green
* Chaplain should be Yellow
* Cataphract should be Blue
* Fencer should be Blue
* Shinobi should be Blue
* Rune Caster should be Yellow
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>>155100201
Why? Sapper is the only one that makes sense.
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>>155100201
Are you dumb?
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>>155100284
Blue is regarded as crowd control and tanking. Ranger and Cataphract have the ability to move enemies out of position against their own whim. Fencer and Shinobi are just tanks.

Green is 'Support' most people don't play Sadhu for damage, they play it to use skills safely.

Yellow is 'Item-based', Wugushi needs poison pots, Chaplain needs a variety of items (was going to say Priest should be yellow, but they have more free skills than ones that cost items) and Rune Caster requires runes.
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>>155100394
>Yellow is 'Item-based'
Yellow is crafting and construction, not "item based." Laying down magic circles isn't crafting so Chap, Wugu, and Rune shouldn't be yellow. Sapper makes sense though, since they construct traps.

It doesn't matter what people play Sadhu for, it's supposed to be a damage class itself. (incidentally, does OOB attack things automatically or do you have to control it and it stops attacking when you use skills?)

Regarding what you said about the ones you feel should be blue: >>155100665
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How much should I charge for a crafted light gorithos, 1m?
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>>155100729
Yeah but Fletcher and Sorcerer don't really 'construct' anything.

Fletcher is basically an overglorified Arcane Archer and Sorcerer should be red by your standards.
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>>155101037
Fletcher crafts and can sell arrows. >>155100332

Sorcerer summons things. Summoning and constructing things to attack for you are basically the same, which is why Necro and Diev are also yellow. It is a little strange that they don't actually consume anything to summon their creations, but I guess they figured needing cards was enough in this case, since they can make a variety of summons.
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What's going on here
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How many TBL games do you need to be ranked?
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>>155100170

There are a few dungeons where you have to kill enemies to open doors, and so on. I know the 240 dungeon has to kill a bunch of enemies to open a boss door, then you kill that boss and it spawns an object you interact with to enter the final boss room.
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>>155102118
That's just killing all the enemies in whatever order you want, then killing two bosses.

There's no directed sectioning of events like in 160.
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>>155101914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rwPPrxjqKY
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>>155102347
am i having a stroke?
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What level did you guys hit rank 7? I'm 213 at the moment and haven't touched a single one of my level 9 cards. I've been grinding my butt off and leveling attributes because I have a constant fear of my damage spells falling behind if I just rush to my next rank.
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>>155103459
223~225
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>>155103459
>I've been grinding my butt off and leveling attributes because I have a constant fear of my damage spells falling behind if I just rush to my next rank.
What class?
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>>155101914
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>>155103739
Monk, gotta max that double punch.
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>>155104243
Hahahaha
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what's a swashbuckling +1 monster gem worth?
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>queue for Saalus
>get this for my team
>everyone else is 20 levels below me
>it's the fucking canyon mission too
>"we're all gonna die then get locked out"
>I got an idea
>duel
>impale
>smuggle the whole team in whenever they die
>kill two bosses
>pick up ingredients
>skip eye boss by using warp stone
>finish this damn run

Who else fucking hates Canyon saalus mission
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if you use a token while having the old one, do they stack or it just refreshes?
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>>155105582
fagit
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>>155105661
laughed
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>>155105594
They stack and also that is a dumb question.
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>>155105582
oh wow Kada-senpai-sama you're so smart, can I lick your balls?
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>>155105661
>>155105995
>buttblasted americucks
lmao'ing at your life
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Have you all tried out Paladins already?
It's like "overwatch for poor".
Free to play and kinda fun.
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>>155106028
look at the guild chat dingus
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>>155106058
Cleric2Priest2Paladin3Inquisitor
Swap Priest with Diev is that's your preference
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>>155105582
>QUEUING
>WHEN YOUR GUILDMATES ARE LITERALLY DOING IT AT THE SAME TIME WITH 1 SLOT OPEN
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that's baka leadah for you...
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Any Sapper present?
If I recall, Stake Stockades will only hit 2 times (3 hits x 2 times). After the 2nd time that the enemy goes through it, it should no longer damage it. But when I played earlier, I was able to damage the enemy every time it passes through the stockade. Can't check it right now since I'm on the road.

Am I wrong?
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>>155106058
It has lewdness?
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i'm reading in various places that conviction supposedly doubles the godsmash damage too

is this real or just a misinformation meme
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mod is dead, it's time

to post popolions
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>>155111182
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>>155111182
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>>155111469
MURBISH NO
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>>155111469
MURBIIIISH! MODS MODS MODS!
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>>155111607

Why is Murbish so mean?

Everytime I'm just minding my own business she comes and kicks me! One time she even stabbed me!
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MURBISH!!!
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>>155111791
Bad Apple
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So does anyone know if Oracle sex changes are temporary or are they permanent?
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I liked Murbish
Why do you gotta turn her in to a meme
That will just make me hate her like every other shitty meme attention whore
I don't wanna hate Murbish
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>>155112478
>So does anyone know if Oracle sex changes are temporary
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>>155113530
>hating someone because they're namedropped
fuck off
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>>155111795
I like getting kicked by murbish!
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>>155113664
There's a difference between being name dropped now and then and being a meme you fucking new faggot
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>>155113881
It's not her fault you fucking piece of shit, it's out of her control. If you hate her because people are making her a meme then you're the worst

fuck off
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>>155113530
tosg just needs new memes once in a while, and since nothing ever happens in this game, their only solution is to force them
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>>155113530
>i hate fun, the post
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>>155114037
I can hate who I want, this isn't your safe space
If you're that butt blasted by the fact that your name dropping her will get her hated then maybe you should stop and consider the consequences of your actions and the fact they could do more harm than good.
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>>155114169
Why is "fun" always "doing something extremely obnoxious"?
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>>155114037
>it's out of her control
>her
If they didn't want the attention, they wouldn't have avatarfagged in the first place.
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>>155114258
I haven't namedropped her you retard, I'm just saying it's not her fault. For fucks sakes grow a brain, directing your hate at someone who doesn't deserve it is completely irrational. Hate the people who namedrop her, not her when she hasn't done anything wrong. Safe space my ass, I'm just telling you that you're a fucking dumbass
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>>155114376
You sound incredibly upset over your virtual "waifu" being namedropped on a Mongolian horse archery forum
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>>155114376
You're awfully defensive for someone who is claiming to not be invested in the name dropping.
It's obvious you're one of the ones forcing the meme by your reaction.
And do you think anyone who comes to the thread from this point on will care about who or how it started?
No they will see Murbish cancer and hate Murbish.
Also this
>>155114359
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>>155114037
>her
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>>155113530
wtf i hate murbish now
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>>155111791
azebu
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>>155037976

I love you.
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Viene Koperon Sword worth anything? dropped the recipe
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>>155098989
What do you need, friend
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I am playing since EA day1 and i still don't know how gimmick dungeon boss like Canceril spawn works.
How it does work?
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>>155116626

It just works.
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>>155116785
But how?
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>When you're using an 8x tome in missions and want fast runs
>But your team is full of cheap ass Archers who slap down a bonfire instead of using a potion

WHY IS IT ALWAYS ARCHERS? LITERALLY EVERYTIME I SEE FUCKERS AFKING IN BOSS FIGHTS IT'S ARCHERS WITH NO SP WHO'RE JUST TOO FUCKING CHEAP TO USE A SINGLE POTION.
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>>155116573
please gib money
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>>155117069
It's still swordsmen I see sitting down. Archers are too busy leading the boss all around the room to sit down.
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>>155117069
>tfw your guild has its own alchemist who gives "free" "potions" to everyone
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>>155117760
>Archers are too busy leading the boss all around the room to sit down.
Fucking this. It's like they move bosses away from aoes on purpose.
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>>155118005
>>155117069
>tfw you realize the potion "use" animation is you rubbing it all over your arm instead of drinking it
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>>155117069
>using exp tomes in mission
you brought this upon your self
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>>155118124
So really its more of a salve than anything?
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>>155118330
Don't start this, retard.
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How do people have enough tomes to make 8x? Where do you get them from?
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>>155118969
people will say quests, but really it's just by buying them.
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>>155118969
Events. You'd have a gorrilion if you played since EA.
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>>155090605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g
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>>155118005
mfw i've gotten my guild mates addicted to my potions and now im their only supplier
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>had a ton of exp tomes stocked up that I saved for grinding instead of dungeons or missions
>mfw finding out how that "30% bonus" is actually applied
I don't even want to think about how pissed off I would be if I had actually bought these things. Isn't that just false advertising when it's a cash shop item?
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>>155119252

Ya know, I kinda miss IMC fucking shit up and giving EXP tomes as compensation.
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>>155118969
GvG and feed one win to Crimson to stay on the board as 5th place and never queue again ¯\\_(ツ)_/
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>>155119507
How is it actually applied
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>>155119691
>\\
Back to forums/reddit you go.
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>>155119772
Bosses and monsters in missions/dungeons have flat experience values.

In the field, however, every monster has invisible "bonuses" applied to them AFTER their flat values. The experience tome only gives +30% to the flat value.

So say you have some candle spider that gives 1 exp. Its map bonus is +1000 exp. When you use an exp tome, you are getting +.3 experience.
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>>155119772
It gives you a 305 bonus over the monster's base exp. The problem is, every map has HUGE EXP boosts. Killing a monster on X map isn't the same as killing the same monster on Y map. Because of this, the 30% exp tomes are actually closer to 10%.
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IMC won this time - today I realized that don't have a minimal desire to login into ToS, but I still did to do the daily tree event
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>>155119958
Bonuses aren't flat though. It's a % modifier per map.
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Grinded to 215 and I'm about to use my lvl 9 cards now. 287 of em. Think this will be enough to get me rank 7?
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>>155119958
>>155119963
That's retarded
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How come Clerics Heal is so stupidly good? It's a rank 1 ability that scales into all ranks no matter what you do.
How come a damage dealing class has to constantly pick new classes with stronger damage dealing abilities? Why doesn't Clerics heal end up getting weak and being replaced by stronger heals from higher ranked classes?

Can you imagine is Swordsmans Thrust and Bash scaled as well as Heal did?

When are IMC going to nerf Heal (I'd say 50 hp per tile max is good) and give other Cleric classes their own versions of Heal but stronger?
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>>155120081
Plenty leftover, 32 left.
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>>155120142
>Can you imagine is Swordsmans Thrust and Bash scaled as well as Heal did?
Hahaha swordcucks want to deal "% of HP" damage.

absolutely delusional.
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>>155120353

Grats
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I feel like we aren't getting class resets. We're probably going to get a leveling event along with R8. Maybe a change to how untradeable items are shared between characters.

I'd be okay with a really good leveling event instead.
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>>155120054
That doesn't change the point. The bonus is only applied to the incredibly tiny base amount of exp the monster gives while ignoring the enormous modifier which makes up the monster's actual, total exp value.

The tome's description does not tell the whole story!
It says +30% EXP from hunting monsters, when that's not true.
It should say +30% EXP to a very specific part of the monster that makes the tome you just used a complete waste!
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>>155120418

Heal should heal by a flat amount + your int. Like 50 + your int at level 5 or something.

Why does Heal get insane scaling? What makes it an exception? Like every other ability in the game is a flat value, so why is Heal special?
Why shouldn't Clerics have to consider the healing abilities they take as part of building their class? If I play a DPS class and take no damage dealing abilities except at rank 1, people will shit on me for it. But Clerics can take 1 healing ability at rank 1 and be viable healers all game.
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>>155120142
Yes, let's make low rank classes even more useless, great idea.
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>>155120142
How come Wizard's Sleep is so stupidly good? It's a rank 1 ability that scales into all ranks no matter what you do.

When are IMC going to nerf Sleep (I'd say -1 second duration per 20 levels of the monster) and give other Wizard classes their own versions of Sleep but stronger?
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>>155120782

Low rank classes for everything but Cleric tend to be fucking useless. So why should Cleric be any different?

They need to nerf Heal and then give Priest, Dievdirbys, Paladins, Pardoners, Oracles, Plague Doctors and Kabbalists their own heals.

If you're not going to pick a heal at rank 7, why should you be a viable healer at rank 7? Damage dealers don't have this luxury. If they don't take damage dealing abilities at rank 7, they fall off compared to people who do.
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>>155120714
>>155119958
Stop lying. It's added to the modifier. If the monster get a +300% bonus, then it gets a +330% bonus now.
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>>155120770

having a general heal opens up the circle to have more options like CC and status/stat interaction than just "keep leveling up the healing class so you get a better heal"

makes it more interesting that way, the only part that imc fails at is the fact that they dont do enough balancing
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>>155121036
>Low rank classes for everything but Cleric tend to be fucking useless
Wrong, only their damage fall off.
You pick low rank classes for the utility they give.
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>>155121036
The problem here is you are assuming that cleric classes deal damage. They don't.
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>>155120142
>>155121032
What you nerds don't realize is that Swordsmen and Archers also have our top tier, never useless abilities like Pain Barrier and uh

uhm

Oh no
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>>155121032

>Freeze
>Raise
>Gravity Pole
>Hangmans Knot
>Stone Curse
>Stop

Excuse me?
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>>155121174
if you don't realize the scaling potential that the swordsmen and archer circles have as well as utility they bring it probably means your a sheep shitter and needed to follow a cookie cutter build because you can't think for yourself
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>>155121431
I'm lazy and let others do the math for me
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>>155119587
They still fuck shit up, though.
They just don't give them out, anymore.
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>>155121109

Literally everything you said applies to damage dealers. Right now damage dealers got to keep levelling up damage dealing classes and picking damage dealing abilities to be a viable and good damage dealer. They don't get other options like Clerics do.

>>155121141

So why do Clerics have the most utility?

>>155121162

They do everything but deal damage, and most of what they do scales exceptionally well. Man even their buffs and debuffs scale into high ranks.

I wish my Swell Arm buff worked like Blessing and increased in effectiveness with my stats. Hell, I'd even take the percentage defence increase Aspersion has for my Swell Left Arm.

Literally Clerics are the class with the most and best scaling abilities in the game. When a Cleric takes a new buff, he's not doing it because it's replacing an old and useless one, he's doing it because it's another buff to add to his repertoire. Most classes cannot say the same. They take new abilities because one olds have little or no scaling and are becoming useless.
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>>155121098
Think a little more carefully. The only thing lying here is the exp tome.
The map bonus to a monster gives 300% experience, the tome gives 30% experience. 330%, right?
But you'll notice that's only a 10% bonus because it's ADDITIVE.

It is not a 30% bonus to your overall experience, it is a 30% tacked on to the base amount. Because of the modifiers, you are only truly getting 30% more experience in missions and dungeons.
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>>155121719
>So why do Clerics have the most utility?
Because they are the most support oriented class.
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Hey tosg,

is there a list somewhere of all equipment that increases skill levels (of specific skills or all of a class's skills) somewhere? I can't really generate it with tosgbase's filter system.
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>>155121925
>The only thing lying here is the exp tome.
>+30%.
>+
>Not +.3x exp
>30% extra exp

You get 100, now you get 130. You also get +300%, so you get +330.

Are you saying getting 100 + 30 +300 is different from getting 100 + 330? It's added to the overall exp.
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>>155121925
+10% exp on gridning > +30% exp on dungeons
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>>155122157

So why do low rank classes for everything but Cleric exist? If they only exist for utility but Clerics have the best utility, then what is the point?

Clerics have the best scaling in the game, they're the only class that at rank 7 and 8 will be regularly using abilities they got at rank 1.
Either Cleric scaling needs to be nerfed as fuck to make it comparable to the scaling other classes get, or other classes need buffing to have the scaling a Cleric gets.
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Why is catacomb recipe worth so much? I've yet to see a recipe on the market for under a mil this week. Is it the best mace at the moment?
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>>155122391
>he didn't go cata, dopple, or hoplite
>he didn't make a hunter or A2
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>6k players now
>down from literally 50k
can't get any worse than this
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>>155121036
Priest heal is better than Cleric heal
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>>155122660
I wonder if it went back to 50k would IMC close the servers again
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>>155122290
But that's the whole point. Because of the invisible modifiers and the fact that it's additive, the end result is not +30% to your overall exp from the monster. It is, like you say, simply added to it using the base amount.

The tome tells you you're getting +30% experience from hunting monsters but you're not. You are getting 10%. The tome should be adding +30% to the end value the monster actually gives.
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>>155122503
its the best mace atm, and even if you dont need magic attack cause you're full support it gives like 1500 HP if you dont want to use an ignition
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>>155123042
i wouldn't be surprised, didn't they cut back on infrastructure after the playerbase started to dwindle?
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>>155123176
No, they couldn't handle the 50k to begin with and their plan was just to shut the servers down until numbers dropped.
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>>155123065
Your problem is that you assume %s should multiply each other. You're just trying to get an extra deal out of the exp tome.
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>>155121719
its not just about "hur fuking dur this skill does dmg xd"

there are different ways of applying damage and different circles are literally different play styles. that is the best thing about this game is that you can mix and match classes you want so you can eventually have the playstyle you like the most.

cleric damage dealers are more focused on zone control and the only deviation from that is bokor/monk who can attack from afar, but you need to invest in at least circle 2 or 3 of bokor to do any respectable amount of damage as well as land hexing.

same thing with monk, you need at least circle 2 of monk to get energy blast and even then if you don't go circle 3, energy blast is nothing compared to some classes that are meant to do damage. you need to charge it, not be interrupted and also puts you stationary as its released

Heres another example: Diev owls do damage but can be torn down and are stationary. They are for zone control, they can also be shoved around by bosses and soon by lancer. You also are forced to be vulnerable when building them and the only way to really ensure safety when doing so is to safety zone yourself.

A lot of cleric damage dealers also force you to build more INT or SPR depending on circle which takes away from your ability to stack CON, which is arguably the best defensive stat in the game.

its not just as simple as "hm this circle is cleric and it can deal damage"

also what the fuck are you talking about "damage dealers have to keep leveling up damage dealing classes to be viable"

if anything swordsmen, archer and wizard have the most mix of CC combined with damage so they are both full of utility AND dps

clerics cant just pick one level of paladin, or one level of monk or one level of bokor. if you want to be a combat focused cleric you need to spec for it and keep investing in the circle. the only offender is diev which provides utility and damage but its zone control and they are vulnerable to archers.
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>>155122391
>they're the only class that at rank 7 and 8 will be regularly using abilities they got at rank 1
Let's see
>Bash CC
>Pain Barrier
>Gung Ho and Concentrate

>Multishot
>Swift Step
>Full Draw

>Sleep
>Lethargy
>EQ CC

Nope, every class will still use their R1 abilities at R7.
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What would be the most time efficient anons?

I currently am 248 grinding evac, and I only used 5 level 11 exp cards, so I still may have 200?

Do I continue grinding evac, then storage, then maven then card to class 15?

or

Do I card at 252 then grind maven till class 15?

Which one is the most time efficient?
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>attributes now costing 126k per upgrade
why this
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>>155123524
>should I grind in the low exp/hour spots or in the high exp/hour ones?

What do you think?
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>>155121213
I guess someone didn't graduate from sarcasm academy.
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>>155060174
Help pls
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>>155123627
sorry i havent reached storage or maven yet, are you saying i should skip straight to maven?
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>>155124206
Yes. Maven gives much more exp than Storage.
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>>155123386
No, I never assumed that. My problem is that the tome does not say "+30% before bonuses". My problem is that these map bonuses are invisible in the first place.

If the tome worked as described right now, then when you kill some monster and get 1000 exp you should logically be getting 1300 experience with a tome. That is not an "extra deal", that is simply wanting an item to function as it is stated to function. To be told "Oh no, you see, it only adds 30% to the base amount before we add our percentage modifiers that make up the monster's actual exp value when you kill it" is incredibly sleazy and makes me wonder if it was done intentionally as a way to sell more tomes or is simply another oversight from IMC.

If the tome said "+30% from hunting monsters (before map bonuses)" and the journal said the monster's exp value +300% for whatever maps it appears in, there wouldn't be room for interpretation, would there?
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>>155124206
card past storage, it's the worst grind
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>>155124206
if you dont want to save cards, just use them and get to maven.
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Anyone theory crafting for r8?
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>>155123605
reminder that attributes actually got discounted by 20% but it doesnt show on the UI, check your silver if you dont believe me
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>>155124779
no. nobody ever does that.
fuck off namefag
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>>155124716
>>155124368
>>155124468

Thank you lads, I heard that storage averages about 10m exp per hour? what about maven?
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>>155124779
Cleric2Bokor2MonkDruid3
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>>155124895
i love this meme
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>>155124856
Thanks u 2
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>>155124895
This can honestly go two ways

>Wolf attack is added to total damage, ex. Total Damage + 5000, similar to Blessing/sacrament

or

>Wolf attack is calculated for the total damage

either way the damage would be consistent but would greatly fall of once we reach r9 if the case is the former
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>>155124895
>>155125087
or

Wolf damage isnt added at all, in which case, BokorMonkWolf would still be fine with the armor break and invincibility but no added damage to bleeding and double punch, meaning youll still shine using Wolf Skills, but not so much using Monk skills
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>>155124423
The bonuses were added later after people complained exp was too low. Would you rather the bonuses be removed?

If you weren't a retard, you wouldn't need it to have a whole paragraph to explain what it does.
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>>155125351
>Would you rather the bonuses be removed?
I don't know, are you retarded maybe? I don't know how you possibly came to that conclusion when I literally said, in the post you replied to, that I just want them to function as advertised and give +30% experience to the actual amount of experience you get from hunting monsters. Which they don't.

I thought that would be clear after having whole paragraphs explain what it does.
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Question: I should be replacing my rox pants and bp with royal guard until I can manage to get grynas stuff right?
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So let me see if I understand how these work from this thread
>Go into Kim Hakkyu's Shoe Emporium which is having a 30% discount on all items
>find some $100 shoes, expecting to pay $70
>cashier rings me up for ten thousand dollars
>ask him what the fuck
>he doesn't answer
>another shopper tells me that the shoes are worth $100, and you'll indeed get a 30% discount on them, but because we're in Kim Hakkyu's Shoe Emporium there's all sorts of hidden price increases that are added onto it
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>>155125952
you should so you can aspersion off damage to 1, you wont have enough def with roxona stuff
>>
What is this? Do I really just guess or is there a hint.
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>>155126030
No.
Mr Kim Hakkyu aka The genius behind Ragnarok Online*tm and Wolfknights*tm is no longer affiliated with the failed spiritual Ragnarok Online Successor aka Tree of Savior.
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>>155125692
They originally added 30% to the exp, which would be 60% with a token. The modifiers came later when people complained EXP was too low. Why should they modify the EXP tomes too, to become multiplicative when the map bonuses were just added to satiate the complaints? They can go back to how it was before when they gave 130% or you can quit whining after they gave you a permanent bonus to exp on top of the tomes. Or you can complain until they actually increase the base EXP instead of using a map bonus.
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>>155126310
there's a hint
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>>155126310
It functions the same way as the current event does. The event is just a dumbed down version of those gimmicks. Just guess a number and it'll tell you if you need to go higher or lower.
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>>155126310
they tell you if its high or low
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>>155126690
>>155126737
>>155126473
Nice, just got 3x Incomplete Ruklys Brew. What other rewards are there?
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>>155126925
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-of-gimmick-rewards/256584
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where the maven grinding groups at??
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>>155126453
First of all the token works the exact same way the EXP tome does. 30% added to the base amount.

>people complained so they added these modifiers
Frankly I don't give a shit. You shouldn't either. The forum politics behind these map bonuses (which are hidden from the player in both how they work and how they affect your tomes) has literally nothing to do with this discussion.

The fact is EXP tomes do not function as they say they do. Yes, the base amount of EXP was horrifically tiny, so they added these modifiers. Great.
Except that the tomes still add only 30% to this tiny, shitty base amount making them effectively worthless.

Is that through your thick fucking skull? Are you arguing that the tomes are perfect as they are now?
>>
Is Raid a /tosg/ guild?
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>>155123497
This is a problem with other classes being useless in lower ranks, clerics do what they're supposed to.

Lower rank classes aren't supposed to be useless, horrible class system.
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>>155127904
>Lower rank classes aren't supposed to be useless
They aren't
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>>155124871
Maven gives about 13-15m/hr
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>>155127901
no
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Got my royal guard pants recipe, a comment on tosbase said Green Salitsdaughter drops the bp recipe. Is this correct?
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>>155127709
The tomes are fine the way they are now. If you don't like how they work, don't buy or use them.
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>>155127901
they're a reddit guild or something but we're on good terms with them
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>>155127904
>Lower rank classes aren't supposed to be useless
Every class has some utility they carry up to higher ranks, even if their damage falls off.
>>
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>>155128762
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>>155129061
Not an argument. Let me present you one, since you don't seem to understand what it is: >>155123497
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>>155129372
Anyone else having fun playing the game?
I'm not. I'm a foolish S2 Barb3.
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>>155129372
>>155128762
>Every class has some utility they carry up to higher ranks
Not every class has

you should play the game. miss info poster
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>>155129543
Name the classes that don't.
>>
>>155129543
>Not every class has
Post one that doesn't.
Sadhu doesn't count.
>>
How good is Oghma Gauntlets? It looks incredible and the -2 block is literally nothing but is it as good as it looks?

There is one for sale for 28k and I would just need to get the smashing gauntlet if i buy it.
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>>155129987
They're quite good
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>>155124779
I'm trying to decide on an Inquisitor build. I'm waiting for a leveling event to make it though.
>>
>>155130102
Thanks. Any clue how much more damage strike would do to leather?
>>
>>155130373
About as much as you do to cloth
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>>155129925
oob can let you do a pseudo dash, so that's still utility (even if it's hard to use), you'd honestly be hard pressed to find a class that *doesn't* have any utility
>>
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>>155129525
>concentrate
>restrain
>pain barrier
>bash
>warcry
>stuns
>cleave
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>>155101914
>your mother is a virgin

I dont get it. Is that an insult in some country?
>>
>>155130445
maybe 'all have' but

>R10 comes out
>remake char cause same shit as now
there are many classes totally not worth picking for there 'utility'

>oh boy, i'll take pyro2 for that pillar stun
no
>>
>>155131247
Pillar stun is future proof.
>>
>>155131437
its a level 1 debuff though, enemies might be immune to it later
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>>155131437
Very true. And everyone rolls/used-to-roll Ele3 for Rain.
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>>155127901
No, theres 1 or 2 of them that lurk here though.
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>>155131545
I'm gonna hold hands with an Elememe when I go Taoshi
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>>155131924
To bad they all jump on the
>reroll to swordie
train
>>
>>155132142
But I rerolled to archer.
>>
>>155132142
metafatgs are the worst cancer
>>
>>155132142
which class should I reroll into for ERP?
>>
>>155132291
but
>muh Doppelgoon pasta
>>
>>155132403
Chronomancer.
>>
>tfw people shout for certain jobs for exp grinding parties
I mean, not just base classes for xp bonus, but actually asking for elememe etc
>>
>>155132557
because they're dum dum
>>
>>155132557
Elememe is still good
>>
>>155130373
They seem to work by outright removing the damage penalty, same for Demonas.

It's gonna be hard to top that shit even with R8 gear.
>>
>>155132792
This is good to know. Did a bit of looking around and it seems Wendigo Shaman drops a recipe for one of the required mats.

I really hope that's true because I don't want to be killing these things for nothing.
>>
>>155132792
I think there'll be r8 version of these gauntlets. It's quite likely that the recipe will require the demonas/oghma gauntlets though
>>
So who is the strongest player in each of the /tosg/ guilds?
>>
>>155133361
Me

special mention to the weakest player in any guild
(You)
>>
>>155133361
erp level?
>>
Why is swaaz such a clown?
>>
>https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/513202
>recipe requires 4 (four) superior korvos recipes
Kill me.
>>
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>>155134364
>mouse over the korean stats/words now shows english translation

wtf i love Dmn now
>>
>>155132792

So Demonas are for Slash damage, while Ohgmar are for Strike damage. Are there any gauntlets for Pierce damage?
>>
>>155134680
No, fuck dragoons and fencers
>>
>>155134641
Nothing that site does ever works properly in FF for me. Not the model viewer, not the attribute price calc, not what you're saying either.
>>
>>155135025
>ff
>>
>>155135025
they all work for me

FF 43.0.1
>>
>>155135025
Model viewer didn't work for me until I enabled "hardware acceleration" again or whatever it's called.
>>
Why are there so many people/bots in Miner's Village?
>>
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>>155135401
>>
>>155133361
If we go by Arena rankings it's Cats.
>>
>>155135025
Because you have some sort of adblocker/javascript blocker or some other tinfoil hatting addon.
>>
>>155135653
Now I'll never get a crimson armor recipe
>>
Going archer2. should I max kneeling shot? or leave it at 1/5 and put the rest in full draw?
>>
>>155133129
So kind of the Grand Cross treatment? I'd be fine with it, as long as they keep gauntlet stats somewhat decent. I'm really glad about the 15 free CON for now, though.

>>155133109
Shaman drops the recipe, it's not fucking impossible to farm like some others but it's going to take you a bit.
Shame you're farming for Oghma, though, since I have an extra Slash Gauntlets recipe I could have parted with and some of the mats for it.
>>
Did we ever talk about the new defensive equips?

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/513132 Plate shoes

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/603120 Bracelet

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/502207
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/503132
Gloves

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/532205
Armor

>https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/522205
Pants

Those plate equips give a buttload of con

>>155136049
Now that I've actually checked them, they don't seem to add much when compared to the 220 ones? Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible considering this is IMC after all

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/503201
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/503202
>>
>>155135692
t. Cats
>>
>>155136000
latter
>>
>>155136563
>https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/503201
>https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/503202

I was checking this just now, as well. Only about 30 more accuracy, and 2 more potential. That's fucking weird, maybe the increase in damage against plate/leather is supposed to increase as well? I didn't bother checking if it did from the base gauntlets to its current upgrade.
>>
>>155137280
Tooltip doesn't say anything different than the current ones, but if I've learned something in this game is to not trust tooltips.
>>
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What should I call this little rascal?
>>
>>155138275
Capyba,
>>
>>155138275
cuy chactado
>>
>>155138275

Why is it crying
>>
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The event necklace's time goes down even when you don't have it on. Why does IMC do this type of bullying?
>>
>>155138743
Pretty sure it has durability too, even if it doesn't show.
>>
>>155138743
What's the costume in the middle?
>>
>>155139510
Rogue.
>>
>>155139510
Rogue
>>
>>155138743
ehh its true. How rude
>>
Can Corsair with Jolly Roger make bosses spit out their boss cards? I'd really like a Gazing Golem card but the odds seem ridiculously low.
>>
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Only few hours left, how exciting.
>>
>>155140014
Yeah
>>
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>>155140078
>>155138275
name it soup
>>
>>
>>155140385
>there supports
>Fletcher1 with unknown build, possibly died or sat down for SP
>zoomy+ hack
Congrats on your #1 man.
>>
>>155140385
t. Beethoven
>>
>>155140385
Toy hammer is broken at that level, and if one of those used lethagy its no surprise.

I did it all the time on rodelero
>>
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>>155140385
OHIO STRONK
>>
>>155140608
I'm useing oob attack while useing monk skills So Toy hammer is procing very quickly
It also procs on the monk bleed.
It's very powerful for bossing
>>
>>155140385
it always feels good getting r1 or 2 as aspiritmonk, never had a toy hammer though
>>
>>155140953
>sadhu AND monk
what is this abomination
>>
>>155140228
>>
>>155141220
>Evergarden: We need our own Lolipan
>Beethoven: I got you bro
>>
>>155141220
>He doesn't know
>>
>>155141220
OOB gives free 50% evasion, if the monk is full DEX, you'll never get hit, kinda like fencer, but without fencers dmg.
>>
>>155141220
Have you ever faced Kemono? Rank 1 on 2v2 for 2 weeks straight
>>
>>155141725
inquisitor soon ;)
also incineration base damage is really good
>>
>>155140385
daily reminder beethoven uses hook64
>>
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What the fuck is the point of Oracle?

Every other class has a distinct purpose and this class just baffles me.
>>
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>Finally unlocking Running Shot
>>
>>155142634
>playing qs
>>
>>155142371
Proof? You keep trying to push this meme
>>
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>>155142371
>Posts this daily without proof because they were not invited to Ohayou party.

Well, you do you I guess.
>>
>>155142378
Fuck your shit up in TBL
>>
>>155142634
sux2bu

no errors here
>>
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>>155142951
>Want to eat pizza with Cats
>But you can't tell him that
>>
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>>155142914
>>
>>155143482
>Mutual Servers
Glad to hear you too use Hook64.
>>
>>155142951
cat ive done nothing but spam pizza for you in fedi chat, dont start with me
>>
>>155141273
>>155140228
Your a cute.
>>
We're kinda last thread in catalog, maybe it's time to make a new thread?
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