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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #360

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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #360

No Shitposting Edition

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.com2us.soccerspirits.normal2.freefull.google.global.android.common

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/soccer-spirits/id808137814?mt=8

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wNX2ME3E
Friend list: http://ofo.jp/j/OgjO

/ssg/ Rankings: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DXPfisMr4PO93itW9rDez5BK9PlK3iwbPBHALyLmKco/edit?usp=sharing

The following players will have a boosted rate during the following weekend(s):

Sep. 16th - Sep. 17th: Gaphyl, Hildegard, Ernesto, Mikael, Orses, Khirel, Duran
Sep. 23rd - Sep. 25th: Altair, Rudiel, Silla, Vitos, Beth, Vonchi + Lucius
Sep. 30th - Oct. 2nd: Roina, Luka, Vivid Fear, Anael, Niarose, Metatron, Serestia

Current events:
Soccer Spirits Raffle Ticket Event: 9/1 - 9/19
Irin Rival Match: 9/4 - 9/18
Rudy Rival Match: 9/11 - 9/25
Nute Boss Match: 9/16 - 9/18 and 9/23 - 9/25

More info can be found in-game

Previous Thread: >>154774645
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>>154931292
It means about 50 cost for each legend
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>>154931201
>no shitposting edition
>not adding a "reminder to ignore and report shitposting"
Shit edition
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>>154931356
They should really do something about the abundant cost you have lying around in the higher ranks
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>>154931559
Fuck off, dont start thread wars.
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>>154931559
>previous thread link is the same
???
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>SS, a waifu collecting game, turns people gay
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>>154931684
Literally, how high are you?
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>>154932212
World Trade Center
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>>154932212
I'm as high as you are gay.
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>>154932537
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>>154931554
An alternative is a penalty to cost

Like first legend +0
Second +15
Third +30 (total +45)
Fourth +45 (total +90)
etc

So you're not penalized for having just one legend but if you have a lot it gets more difficult to fit them all
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>>154932746
This might work, makes you use your head before you stick legends in your team instead of just spamming that shit to cut cookies
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>>154932746
That sounds retarded, it just means high ranking people could still use many legends and lowbies can't
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>>154933012
That seems very logical
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>>154933012
Thats the point
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>>154933012
High ranking people don't have 600~ cost lying around.
And if you're a lowbie you shouldn't be using 5+ legends anyway
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>>154933074
>>154933082
I'm the 2nd or 3rd highest ranked here and I still think that's retarded. Only allowing high ranked players to use many legends is unfair.
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>>154933351
2bad2sad
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>>154933351
No it's not. What else is the fucking point in playing a long time and getting a high rank?
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>>154933351
To who exactly? Low level whales? If they really want to use their all legend team that much they can just spam st refills for exp matches
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I think I know why they made Angela so strong.

So if they make a commonly available GK super strong, it makes it so, at first many will whale to get her. Then she becomes more common. So then she creates like a barrier of entry. If you can't break her, your striker is simply subpar and you won't be able to win, obviously. So it leads players to whale for Vonchi or William to be able to climb.
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>>154933351
>i'm the 2nd or 3rd highest ranked
Sure thing senpai, everyone believes you
Also
>it's unfair to use a bunch of the strongest players by only people with high level rankings that actually have played the game and earned that, like many other mobages that only allow certain number of overpowered units, because...?
>meanwhile allowing low level scrubs getting free wins by using brainless cookie cutter 8 legend teams is ok just because
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neat, finally got esteban
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It will also give incentive to rank up and to upgrade your xp gain club building. People will want to rank up 140-160 if it means being able to use six legends or something.

Right now cost loses any meaning at rank 100 somewhere because you can comfortable use any combination of players and it stops to matter
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>>154933351
Bullshit.

Cost is literally WORTHLESS after awhile.

This is the only goddamn mobage I've played where cost isn't taken into account.

They may aswell remove cost

Legendary Units should cost double what they cost now. It will allow people to build different fucking teams and make it worth while.
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>>154934069
>TWO 5* in a 10+1
Wow fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>154933407
Achievement rewards
Max BP increase
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>>154934475
actually it's 3 and don't worry, i got two fiestas afterwards
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>Bell slams into Duke
>he survives at 30-40%
>he attacks and kills her, overkilling her by something like 1500
Feels bad man. Bell is so bad now.
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>>154934578
I only see Ernesto and Hildegard as 5*s there.
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>>154934329
they actually removed cost in japan.
expect it to be gone soon
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>>154934738
I don't like this
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>>154934608
she has taken a beating, but duke is definitely much stronger now,
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>>154934738
>>154934894
Cost removal would be fine because this is the only mobage where having a shit character is an active detriment that can lose you the game by losing the ball or getting a free shot against your goalkeeper.

If they want to limit legendaries then they should rework chains.
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>>154934972
How times have changed. It used to be duke was a joke. And Bell was queen. Feels bad man.
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>>154934984
>implying chains matter when you have the 11 strongest players in your team
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>>154934731
Lucifer is there too.
>>154934069
Congrats, he was my 28 day 5*. hopefully he'll be good with an EE.
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>>154934738
Is this true?

That is fucking RETARDED

Holy shit
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>>154935237
>Lucifer
Who?
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>>154934731
>>154935443
please don't bully lucifer
he may be useless in most setups and is a male, but he's still a 5*

>>154935237
thanks! too early to tell what i can do with him since i don't plan on STing and superbing him yet
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>>154935402
Yep
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>>154935081
>dook has permanent 40% crit damage, 40% crit, 30% reflex and crit totem, 50 pen and 50 DR
>bell has 30% attack, reflex and crti totem, superplay, which is conditional, and 70% attack and dr ONLY with an attack and for a minute, with the possibility on getting it twice
It hurts to see how much better duke is. Only her totem is better, but the pen/dr from duke makes it look shit in comparison.
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>>154935875
Sure her totem is better but the attack is inconsequential. It's nice to have but is not decisive at all. Duke's 50% DR/Pen passive is absolutely massive.
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>>154935535
>invested in ernesto
>4 superbs now
>still shit
WW only has a decent backline, a couple midline players, and strikers. Hopefully Ernesto's and Evylin's EEs will make them great to use unironically.
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>>154935952
That's exactly what I said.Only that skill makes him top 5 S1 legend, no other player has such an amount of those stats for free permanently, and it's worse considering he can work as an attacker and a wall perfectly with not only that, but more crit damage and a real strong attack. Only Khirel is better in terms of damage, but for utility, he's the ultimate legend wall along with meta.
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>>154936125
Yeah, Vic-Meta-Duke in MW ace team is the best midline you can make in the game currently imo.

I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was just emphasizing that the small advantage in her totem doesn't mean anything.
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>Elaine/milky/willy or vonchi
>victoria/meta/duke/choi or empty
>kevin/duran/DQ/ empty or Gaphyl
>angela
Is this the best team in the game?
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>>154934069
que?
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>>154936561
No.
Too many males.
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>>154936695
He's talking about Alejandro there, the furry latino that no one cares about.
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>>154936991
Ah, si si.
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>>154936561
I think WW/Dark has a stronger backline. Jin might not be *quite* as sturdy, but the backline is otherwise stronger.
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>>154937393
The problem with WW is that it only has a backline, a midline player and a striker.
Other midline players are shit but Linmay and Meiran, and as for frontline everyone can be easily replaced with off color players.
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>meet up with cg irl
>tell him that silk is shit
>get pinned down by cg for saying silk is shit
>proceed to get hatefucked by cg
>moan pleasure and continue to say silk is shit
>cg continues to pounds my ass to shreds until i say silk is the best
>keep saying silk is shit as he is 12 inches deep in me
>be forever bonded with him through the stickiness of his love juice
>tfw this will never happen

why is life so cruel
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>>154936991
>>154934069
his name is furry daddy
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>>154937697
Genderbent skin when? It is the only buff he can get to be useful.
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>>154937602
>this is allowed but avatarfagging isn't?
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>>154937602
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>>154937697
A lion man should be a giant, fierce warrior
not this regal bullshit
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Remember to ignore shitpost.
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>>154938258
B-but shitposts are what makes this general not shitty like leddit
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Well, hello there! Today we are .. no, I am going to show you guys the strength list of Strikers by their respective base Star. Just a reminder: if a striker is placed in the same position nubmer as someone else it's because their strength level is alike and take in consideration this is implying they have a good team.

6* ( legendaries) strength:
1 - Vonchi
2 - William and Leventor
I don't think this is wrong at all, but let's move to the 5* that probably will infuriate a few here!

5* (ultra rare) strength:
1- Sharr and Shanti
2- Kirin,Ravian,Bora ( just a reminder that Bora gain crit dmg every active shoot ) and Uriel
3- Griffith,Beatrice, Lucid and Vitos
4- Vann
5- Hiro
6- Blade
7- Irru ( who the hell run this meme striker? )

I don't think I forgot anyone, but here it is.
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Is Niarose a good CM?
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>>154939097
Tell me this is a reddit post. Please.
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>>154939417
It obviously is.
Don't reply to it.
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>>154939362
she's bretty gud if you have no one else.
her reflex can get pretty massive.
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>>154939417
Is isn't, why the hell would it be?
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>>154939417
>saluting
>listing 5* as ultra rare
>griffith and vitos being beatrice tier
Yes, it is.
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>>154939631
Im using Sammy (with Milky ace) now but I see Niarose promising
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>The chains system is reworked to include a larger number of players for each chain, mostly targetting 5-6* players of the same element.
>Now, you only need half of the cards to make a chain unlockable. Chains are far easier to unlock, and every player shouldn have effective chains.
>In addition, all chains are reduced in effectiveness, however, chains stack for each player you have, at about 15%-75% effectiveness depending on the chain and the player. Chains that are difficult to satisfy are more rewarding.
>In addition, each player has a Unique chain that is unlocked at Level 70, each rivalling a new ability on their own.

>Jin gets 1.25% critical resistance and max HP for every girl on his team (and Dochi), with double effectiveness if the player is WW.
>Lilith recovers 15% HP every 3 mins for every dark male player on either team.
>Elaine increases the pass effect of allied ardor players by 20%, increased to 30% for Underground players.
>Hiro gets 10% crit rate and crit damage for every legendary on the enemy team.
>Lucian gets +30% max HP and +20% damage resistance if Erica is on his team.
>If Kei has at least eight light players on his team, Never Die is active above 60% HP.
>etc
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>>154941349
fuck off retard
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>>154941349
If you really want to balance chains just give everyone one of each type.

It's stupid
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Huh? You want to know what chains I have, /ssg/?
Hmm, I guess I can reveal it to you...

Nemesis chain: Premium Tickets, Free draw

Friendship chain: (You)

Affection chain: 10+1 draws

Uwah! That's reminds me, today is a GREAT day for draws!
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>>154942760
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>>154939097
Shanti and Sharr aren't top strikers, fuck off
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I want to start a family with Uriel!
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>>154942760
>Uwah! That's reminds me, today is a GREAT day for draws!
>10 draws
>nothing
t-thanks
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I just scouted Choi. How did RNGesus bless you today, /ssg/?
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>>154944671
I got a swrily
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>>154944671
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>>154946279
Damn, that's a really nice scout roll. I'm sorry, anon.
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>>154946279
i'd get a shura superb for when I feel like maxing her.
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>>154944671
Damn
My last spu
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How stupid of an idea is running a Leventor/Choi/Elaine/Baltheon front?

>>154946712
Ouch.
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Iggy/linmay/freya midline good or nah?
Currently running yuri/linmay/miho and I'm tired of getting reflexed on. This is just a temporary solution obviously because I'm on the hunt for victoria
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New to this game, and I'm in the rerolling process. This is the first card that looks somewhat decent. Should I just start the game with this one, or keep rerolling?
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>>154947148
Very good unit, but not the one to aim when rerolling.
Look for legends when rerolling
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>>154947148
He's great, but you really want a legend when rerolling in this game - they're fairly hard to obtain through normal means.
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>>154947271
>>154947342

Any card names in specific?
Not entirely sure who the legendary people are.
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>>154947537
They have 6 stars, and they're fairly easy to tell apart.

Shu
William
Choi
Jiho
Khirel
Jin
Duran
Metatron
Baltheon
Serestia
Leventor
Bell
Askeladd
Felix
Duke
Valk beth
Vonchi
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>>154947537
They have an L icon and they come in 6*
Look for:
Jiho
Duran
Metatron
Choi
Duke
Askeladd

Any of these would be top kek
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>>154947685
>>154947693

Nice! Thanks for the information guys. Really appreciate it.
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>>154947537
They come in red balls when you draw.
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>>154948187
Not a problem, friend. The game's a bit daunting to get into, so it's the least we can do.
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>>154946993
It sems like iggy would be good for her active, since I'm running sharr but she also seems pretty shitty
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Nari best assist
>How to fix Nari
>Change Artistic Soccer II to "Recover the HP and action bar of allies in the position by 15% and spirit by 25% when attacked or with a pass"
>change Provoke to "Increase Pass Effect and Action Speed by 30%"
>Change her LWF bonus to also give reflexes
>Change Shining Route III to give 45% crit at 5/5
every thread until Fred does it
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Reminder to never listen to the turtle
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>>154950506
But she is top assist.

:^)
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>>154950506
>How to make Nari broken
kys ardorfag
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>>154951354
>broken
she'll just be the inline assist Linmay with no linewide reflex/crit buff
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Is today a good day for draws?
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>>154952227
nope
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Thanks turtle
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>boosted graphyl rates
>scared i will get 2-3 orses and nothing else
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>do draws
>want gaphyl
>get karpilla
wew
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>>154954073
feeling when you have karpilla 2 superb from dupes
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>tfw no qtpila
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>>154954073
>drawing for st mats
>drew karpila
>don't want her
>can't use as st cause super rare new star
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Is Sky better CM than Sammy?
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>>154955550
maybe
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>>154955550
Sky is a frontline unit.
If you want Light CM your Sammy is top followed by Muspel.
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Is Lynbell a better CM than Meta?
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>>154956160
ye
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I got Gaphyl, now what?
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>>154956160
With very hard work, maybe
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>>154956021
>followed by muspel
>implying muspel even exists
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>>154956160
Go for it!
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ded
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>>154958268
nobody exists in this game, they're all fictional characters, except Virgil, who is literally satan.
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>>154958268
Decent skills for a CM. TW or Battalion synergize with his kit wonderfully
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>>154958268
he's pretty solid now honestly.
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>>154960646
I dont think ive ever seen a muspell at all.
Chances are hes as used as evelyn.
Id be glad if some anon posts his stats with a decent build.
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>>154950506
>remove provoke
>give her +100% reflexes/attack when attacked
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What a day, Ernesto from day 4 box and Choi from scout.
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>>154961469
He's a very old unit that good a very decent EE and has some of the best stone slots you'll find on a Light unit.
That being said the amount of people with a Muspel with superbs are less than 100 since he was ST fodder forever.
That doesn't mean his skills aren't good for CM. Stictly speaking for CM his kit is better than Sammy's but Sammy has a forward pass and she heals/revives dead units with a pass. She has way more utility and higher base reflex due to having the highest tech in the game.
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>>154962073
Who is the Zlatan of SS?
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>>154963451
Kirin.
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>>154962921
>highest tech
Sillas higher now.
Eh, Muspel looks kind of vulnerable to both counterattacks and damage while attacking. Batt can help with the damage though, element with reflexes against metas, not sure if thats enough to pen into them safely.
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N O A L O V E
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when is the next teaser?
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>>154964793
Next week
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A friendly reminder that all passive passive totems should be nerfed by 66.66%.
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>>154964940
>power strikers can now easily OHKO with an active combo
fuck off
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>>154964793
a little while after people start asking when the next teaser is.
thanks for starting the process
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>>154965056
np
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>tfw the game will never be balanced
How does this make you feel?
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>>154965025
That problem will be more workable after skill AoE scaling has been applied.

Besides, the equation between forward and back lines lose the same amount, thus, the same ratio. So apart from the legends, and perhaps the sharr class ships, this is a good deal.
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Best stones for Jiho?
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>>154966792
>So apart from the legends, and perhaps the sharr class ships, this is a good deal.
and do you know how common those are?
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>>154966169
Why wold you balance a resource sinking game?
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>need Baltheon
>just to activate chains on several of my team members
suffering
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>>154967027
Both would require a different aspect in balancing the system.
>Legends
Need to be limited to one per max level cost so that we can keep them as is. If ever, changes would be minimal.
>Sharr class
This area needs rework on stat scaling. The ratio between Attack, Receive Pass, Penetration, Critical, and Critical Damage is to DR, HP, and Critical Resistance needs to be modified then rescaled in such a way that they do not over power each other.

This part requires more study and I haven't done the math yet. But definitely, things like damage increase/critical/critical damage resistance are priorities to be reworked.
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>>154967696
thats just more work. just buff selfish players only
selfish players are shit since they either have no CAR or low reflexes, fix that and they're fine
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>>154967790
That is precisely why I apply math on the subject first before I give my pathetic suggestions. Uncalculated decisions are what BB is doing and its obviously not working.
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>>154937697
Anyone have that image from normiebook floating around?
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>>154964451
Not really if you're running your share of reflex totems in mid. He has the advantage vs Metatron, the most common so losing the ball due to reflex shouldn't be too much of an issue.
Suiciding into the double mid of a 4-man middle is the real issue.
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>>154942760
This is a pretty good turtle.
Gonna go draw.
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s1 legends reduced to 600 d-stones WHEN
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>>154968105
nah but i got this
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>>154967696
Are you the same anon that wanted selfish player to become obsolete? Selfish players are inherently shit because they don't help your striker or GK.

Just buffing selfish players with some totems is all they need.
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>>154969026
Kek.
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Saber said new legends """""""""soon"""""""""
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>>154966169
The game is still in a state where it can be saved.

>Change recovery to increase the healing received by the unit
>Add in effects that reduce healing done
>Shift some of the crit resist totems to other stats like pen resist, the new recovery stat and crit damage resist
>Shift some crit totems to grant stats like pen, healing reduction, and crit damage
>Remove either some of the healing done or action bar restoration on active heals and let them also remove debuffs from your team or buffs from the enemy team depending on the element of the unit.

This makes stacking stats harder and less rewarding than it currently is and helps deal with cancer units that rely on stacking buffs or debuffs if you decide to tech against it. There's other changes that would have to be made to stats like DI but I'm too lazy to get into it right now.
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>>154969982
qt saber, I wish she was my wife.
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>>154970641
T H I C C
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>>154966169
Tell me your definition of "balanced". Because as far as I know, there isn't a single balanced game out there, Mtg is not balanced, Dota is not balanced, Overwatch is not balanced, Pokemon is not balanced.
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>>154970812
Obviously that dude means chess.
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>>154970934
>Chess
>Balanced
Whoever starts has the advantage.
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>>154971095
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>>154971195
>He doesn't know that the first one to strike has the advantage
Enjoy losing your wars senpai
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>>154971689
>Doesn't know the psychological advantage going second has now that cancels out the going first advantage and thus balances the game
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>>154971871
>Forgetting that now the player 2 has think twice as to how he is going to get his strat to work before making his oppenent does leading to player 1 having a distinct advantage over being able to use his strat first
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>>154971871
>psychological advantage
>when you are one turn behind in the game
It's commonly agreed by chess players that white have the advantage, and it is supported by statistics that show that White has 52~56% win ratio over Black.

Chess is not balanced.
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But SS is balanced because the person starting with the ball has a spirit disadvantage.
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What if weather in pvp was revamped to not only reduce healing, but also reduce the effectiveness of line or global buffs by some amount? The game can focus on a balance of totems and perhaps even a set of selfish players that would suddenly have a distinct advantage over buff slaves with their strong self buffs
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>>154970812
There may not be a completely "balanced game", but this game is far more broken than all of those.
In those you don't see literally the same formations and same strategies everytime, unlike here where you see only less than half of the overall 5* units having a place in high rank teams.
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>>154972696
Its actually debated. Because people think white wins which puts pressure on them.
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Eh.
Mileage gave me skorn too.
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>>154974617
Honestly whats the deal with this shit, everyone is drawing 5stars/ legends today and i got absolutely nothing in 2 11 draws.
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>>154974132
>You don't see the same formation and same strategies everytime
These are the teams from the 2016 Pokemon VGC.
Mtg for example, has a dominance of a couple different decks in the eternal formats that changes slightly to nothing at all with every set released.
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>>154974728
>based turtle not blessing anon with draws

Kek
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>>154974383
Statistics do not lie, they win more. That happens in every single chess tournament since 1851, white wins more by 52~56%, and when the games are made by masters, where almost no mistakes are made, the white win ratio increases to 56~59%.

People who complain about psychological disadvantage are making up excuses. His opponent is simply much better, that's it, he managed to outplay the one with the advantage with sheer skill.
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>Soccer spirits will shut down in a few weeks
Release at last.
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>>154977227
What? Shut up retard
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>>154974617
Time to go monolight
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>>154977341
>He doesn't know that if the upcoming patch doesn't bring in/back players we'll get canned
P-please don't make it hurt more than it has to
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>>154978284
>implying
CC and MC never had a general. They died.
SS has a general, which means there's enough relevancy.
It won't die soon enough.
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>>154979583
yes, because communities for games only exist on 4chan. excellent reasoning, anon.
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>>154979583
>generals on 4chan mattering
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>>154979706
The fact that this pleas is still alive means it's player by people who lurks these shitty boards, which means there are way more players outside on other kind of forums
Just look at facebook, reddit and apocalypse for example.
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>>154979583
4chans negative rep covers for its opinion or community to not exist
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>>154979706
there's places other than this.
there's obviously the facebook/instagram one, people talk about it on tumblr, deviant art, and reddit as well.
also the forums, com2us and a couple of other ones
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>>154946993
I run Iggy-Vero-Freyja and they don't really get reflexed. Vero is a free pen if she CA's and holds the ball but if you use Linmay she'd probably be better
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>>154980082
there's overlap between those communities, make an alt and clear 1 colo level to get an idea of how many people are still playing.
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>>154980082
>instagram one, people talk about it on tumblr, deviant art,
I don't know man, unless you're somehow finding unsearchable reply chains everywhere, those places seem to be strictly for putting pictures up
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Yee
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>>154979903
Please stop embarrassing yourself. SS having a general on /vg/ isn't a way to accurately measure a game's performance.

There are plenty of terrible games which have a general just because they have small, autistic fanbases.

SS is steadily losing players because its almost been a year since BB added its last significant game mode, along with many more reasons.
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buffs when?
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>>154981515
>jpg
Anon, no!
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Best stone slots for Lynia?

Figured I'd go with Lightning speed but she's a free pen if I do
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>>154981373
Oh shit an Ice swirly grats anon
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>>154981416
I was about to put 100 bucks on this, you guys scared me, now ill buy 100 bucks of dota hats instead.
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>>154981838
anon please
go see the humble bundle and steam sales
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>fan-art event
yay more stuff to post
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>>154981910
Absolutely nothing i want.
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>>154981990
>ywn make her smile

bros..
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>>154981838
I did say it's losing a few players, but I'm not the guy which was saying the game would close down in a week. The JP server is still recent and the game will hold on to a few thousand players, some of them being whales, that's all it takes for it to continue for a few more years.
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>>154982184
Go away voodoo.
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>>154983213
Where are you getting these from friend?
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>>154983142
I-ill hold you close
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>>154983590
that one is from serin himself
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>>154983213
Is that chitose or miho, i dont even know.
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>>154983723
Yes, but where? Twitter? Pixiv? Naver?
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>>154983614
>t.someone wanting to get with clopfag
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>>154983874
chitose
>>154983886
twitter
https://twitter.com/serin199
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>>154983905
I'd get with anything at this point
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>>154984031
Thanks friend. He's seem to be very fond of Isillia's uniform.
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>>154983213
that looks a lot better than what we got, did he draw that recently?
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>>154984084
Just call a whore.
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>>154983213
>pantyshot
So much for her being pure

>>154984250
He put it up on twitter a few days ago
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>>154984031
>원래 초기러프에선 빤스가 보였습니다만 한층 더 강력해진 심의는 빤스를 용납하지 않았다ㅠ
>google translate
>In the original pitch, the initial rough underpants only more powerful hearing did not tolerate underpants ㅠ
>did not tolerate underpants
fuck you bb
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>>154984250
It's the same image except her skirt is a bit higher for the panty flash and one of her leggings isn't colored. If the game wasn't doing extra censorship that's probably what we would have had as her official art.
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>>154984084
Join CGfag and his lewd fantasies
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>>154984329
She is pure. That art wasn't chosen because BB knows she isn't a filthy whore.
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What do you guys think about MW choi?
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>>154984742
>being a cheeky cunt

Just face it anon, cheetos was meant to be a filthy whore
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>>154985265
>>154984742
>>154984329
dont you know that only the purest girls have their skirts flipped like that by the wind?
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>>154985148
Why when you can use TB or IC?
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>>154985265
This
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>>154984210
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>ywn kiss new VF's forehead
I'm literally going to use my helium tank tonight and finish this once and for all.
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>>154985649
please do
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>>154985649
>not wanting to motorboat Vivid Fear''s Vivid Fears
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>>154984306
They don't care about your feelings.
>>154984673
Im not THAT degenerate
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>>154984742
I use her E art anyways.
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figures the french are a bunch of cheaters
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>>154985649
>Ahoge

Did she always have that?
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>>154986548
yeah
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>>154986462
Yeah it's pretty funny, in both sets of artworks she has it on base artwork, on evolved it then went down
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>>154985649
>those buttfangs
Thanks for fixing her BB
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How good is Nute now?
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>>154986901
As good as before
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>>154986874
Jesus i didn't even notice those.
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>>154986901
As some other anon said in the previous thread like every boss match player
she fine in monothunder teams shit in anything else
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>>154986901
Better than dark's gks.
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>>154986901
Better than Raklet.
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>>154986901
Better than Jin.
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>>154987656
Underrated qt
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Thanks, pay2win turtle! Had no Lucian since 2015.
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>>154987656
Reminds me of a girl I worked with.
They both look like they have weak genes.
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>>154988278
They are just 3*! Please, dont be that rude
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>>154988421
Yeah and 3*s are just slaves that are sold for gp
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>>154987656
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>>154988421
You're right.
Sorry, armati.
Sorry, taryn.
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/ssg/, why is Luka so fucking best?
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>>154989083
She has the best skin
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>>154989142
Fucking heretic. Base Luka is the only good Luka and qtest girl.
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>>154989142
He said Luka, not Linmay
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>>154989194
Of course he said Luka. She has the best skin not some shitty music band shit
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>>154989083
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>ywn give uriel the hot, thick changes she so desperately craves for

What an awful feel.
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EZ 4 E-BETH
post your Elizabeth
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>>154987656
i thought she was cute until i noticed her forehead is ginormous
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Am I doing it right?
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cute and lewd
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>3 star neris
>not 5

HAHAHAHHA
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oh fuck now i get this randy meme he's the guy responding at their customer service.
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Nerf WW.
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>>154991176
While they're at it they can also nerf Sharr's legend tier damage.
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>>154991176
No.
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>>154987656
Down syndrome angel
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>>154991176
After the Elaine and Angela nerfs.
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>>154991307
SHARR DID NOTHING WRONG!
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>>154991485
The fact that theres like 6 aces of them on my friends list, I vs atleast 2 of them in a row in esports or a WoMilly.

Something is wrong.
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>>154990480
Whats your frontlane? These stats are shitty. Do you have baltheon?
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>>154991603
>striker aces
thats dumb
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>>154991603
Are you really complaining about that?
Im facing vonchi elaine mw with vero meta +1 mids
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>>154991749
You know that feeling when you're tired of seeing shit after awhile.
Im tired of seeing Sharr.
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>>154991376
No, just after critdmg ardor stone removing/nerf.
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>>154991603
>I vs atleast 2 of them in a row in esports or a WoMilly.
I'd rather see Sharr than any legendary striker desu
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when
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>>154991894
Except lev, pls give me more levs.
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>>154991678
alkyde/vitos/BD
i wish i had balth or at least hamereth, but i just scouted shura, so maybe i can put her instead of bd
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>>154992037
>wwcucks
lev is as disgusting as the other legendary strikers
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Sharr nerfs when? My Vonchi has to at least crit to deal damage.

:^)
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>>154992064
>removing the waifu
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>>154992182
>2016
>not having a WW back
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>>154992439
>2016
>using ww backline to get raped by broken ardor strikers
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>>154992302
my waifu is vitos.
everything for her benefit
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>>154992472
>vitos
>waifu
nice meme
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>>154989628
>he needed elizabeth to get nute
>got nute on my second try
>didn't even wanted a dupe
>>154991968
Along the legendary managers
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>>154992461
>using a gk that isnt angela
>not having DR
>duran caring about ardor
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>>154991968
They scrapped her as a manager, she'll be a new legend.
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>>154992282
>vonchi is the stronger striker
>needs to shot three times to crit as much damage as sharr without a crit
Nerfs when?
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>>154992064
And you used BDs active? Thats even more worse.
My Vito has 185% critdmg with Balth+SC pass and 275% critrate. "NanomachinesSubstats, son!", I have ~20% critdmg from substats
Work harder, and maybe Galaxy will burn in hell.
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>>154992472
How much time were you waiting to post that one?
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>>154992891
Where is my spoiler BB-tag?!
Test "shit test"
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>>154992807
This guy gets it. Though what you said would be a no-crit combo of Vonchi.

Wish isn't hard to happen vs Kevin+Jin backline and Alice debuffs
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>>154993124
Remove Alice, she is just the hole in the backline. Nerua will be better.
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Why don't opponents get chains activated?
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>replying to cirno
I thought we hated reddit not love them
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>>154993124
Shard of Balmung Vonchi is the worst meme.
>>154993345
This will be fucking unbalanced. Angela+Kevin are strong now even without chains.
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>>154993345
because people like having the odds in their favour
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>>154993396
>replying to someone means you love them
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>this
>no dense magma for angela
>not even pome
Fuck me.
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>>154993848
Kuma doesn't have stone slots, anon.
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>>154993841
>replying to an obvious virgin trying to be popular on an anonymous board
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>>154993396
Wah you heff to hate me?
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>>154993848
angela has some nice torpedoes
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>>154993937
>projections
Kek.
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>>154993928
>mention angela
>mention stones that angela uses
>fails miserably to meme
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>>154993841
Replying makes them not kill themselves so yes you love them.
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>>154993335
People are using this type of backline and Alice at mid, her debuffs are global anyway

>>154993457
I am using MW
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>>154994127
welp
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>>154993979
She has one of the nicest bodies in the game, gotta say that.
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What do I use to fill the blank in my backline?
Kevin/Silk/Kiki/---
Jin
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>>154994320
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>>154994428
HERE COMES VEEEEEERGIIIIL Use Miho/Duran
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>>154994428
Miho/gaphyl/ virgil
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>>154993979
She probably has a smelly butt, if you really think about it.
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>>154994606
Considered that she spends her entire time sitting on her pc, probably.
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>>154994606
lynbell probably smells bad as well honestly
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>>154994847
Lynbell is perfect, fuck you.
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>>154993848
i love her base art
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>>154994847
i'd lick her entire body clean
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>>154994847
Definitely more delicious than other units that probably taste like soap.
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>>154994847
Probably has the nastiest shits.
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How can I use Lynbell if I already have Meta?
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>>154994847
i want her to use me as her piss bottle
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>>154994847
I want her to shit on my face
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>tfw avnore probably faps at any spare moment he has and smells like it.
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>>154994847
Lynbell fucking stinks! Dirty NEET
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>>154994503
>>154994567
>miho
>virgil
What about something like Alice?
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>>154996474
since you dont have a healer you either put a linebreaker+totem, or a heal, in virgils case a heal that can linebreak. Yuri comes to mind.
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>>154995531
You don't use her.
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fuck off with your forced meme cg
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>>154997062
It's not him
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>>154997062
>cg
>avatarfagging
>speaking about dicks all day
>another shitty animu redhead
It's obviously clop
>>
>>154969087
No. Making everyone a totem just extinguishes the existence of selfish players.

However, the fact that totems can modify stats on the same level as selfish skills is plain stupid. Just like what I have said already an average 3 selfish unit vs 3 totem unit should be generally equal.

Thus to generalize the equality, each totem should only be able to give 33.33% the value of its equivalent selfish skill for the balance to be:
100% 100% 100% roughly equal to 33.33% 33.33% 33.33%.

Then after this, regarding your concern that everyone should support the striker, CM, and GK, selfish units will have more value due to the simple reason that if properly scaled, a totem stacked line will only have the upper hand on that supported unit but the rest of the units in that line will not have superior advantage against those selfish units, thus, turning them into probable attack points for penetration or to abuse 1v1 against the GK.

A good example of this would be a set of selfish striker-stealer-assist vs a 4man totem back with a GK. With the current setup, the 4man totem will be multiplying stats in the same line of up to 400% what a standard selfish skill can do. Its obviously too much and makes that line overwhelm selfish units rather easily.

Now the same example except with the appropriate scaling. The 4man backline can only multiply the stats in that line by up to roughly 120% of the amount selfish skills can do. Now this is good for the GK itself but this would also mean that those totems used will not be able to overwhelm the selfish units completely and may prove disadvantageous once the 1HP battles start to occur.

With these there will be a trade off between stacking too many totems and using selfish units that you, the player, can manipulate to your liking instead of what BB is currently giving -- use totems or lose.
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I should just MSPaint a shitty pic, because either way im getting 100st
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>>154997689
thanks for including me in it
>>
When is the Miho EE coming?

WW has suffered far too long.
>>
Reminder that CG owns /ssg/ and we're all his personal cocksleeves.
>>
You know whats the worst part?
If this faggot stops posting /ssg/ dies.
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>>154998114
There are a lot of non shitposter waifu fags and proper e-sports fags that only bump the thread or answer questions relevant to their specialty. /ssg/ will persist even if the dick suck, clop, and jakenkunt posting stop.
>>
>>154998314
>50 posters
Somehow i doubt that.
>>
>>154998114
Isn't that a good thing?
>>
>>154998114
That's not true and if it was, then /ssg/ doesn't deserve to live in the first place.
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>>154998114
I hardly read the thread anymore let alone post since its just gay shit all day every day now
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>only posted once today not counting this post
I'm almost free
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>>154997498
Why not make totems to not stack like the elemental resistance do?
That way there can only be 1 totem of every kind and people will stop using units with the same totem because it'll be too inconvenient.
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Why are brown elves so fucking perfect?
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>>154999086
>perfect
Their only purpose is to be enslaved or breed orcs.
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>>154999086
>perfect for hatefuck
>perfect for rape
>perfect for enslaving
>perfect for mind breaking
>perfect for gangbanging
>perfect for marriage
>perfect for holding hands
They just are
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>>154999315
>>154999384
Shut the fuck up
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>>154998798
>make totems to not stack like the elemental resistance do

Considering totem effects are as good as selfish skills, this should be a thing by BB since they are dumb shit that can't math.

However, considering that there is already a limiting function; same totem names do not stack, this may prove detrimental into promoting variety within team construction.

If anything a exponential decay per totem/stat will be better if current values are to be kept.
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>>154999086
>typical Kuroinu bitch cumdump
>perfect
Well if she is perfect in your eyes, then perfect she is.
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>>154999403
Mad cause we pointed out that the entire race consists of sluts and edgy fuccbois?
Here, ill show you what perfection looks like.
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>Silk will never be your household maid
>Silk will never clean after you
>Silk will never care for you
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>vf looks promising
>she turns out to be shit
>her art is lazy as fuck but not ugly
>jcuck uses her
>claims he does for cute
>he stops using her
>he won't be using her even with ee
>either he thinks she's ugly or she's more useless than ustiel
>cucked by the ultimate cuck
Poor little girl. When will de bullying end?
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>>154999692
Delusional.
Heres what it wold be like
>ywn recover silk after she gets gangbanged by orcs
>ywn raise silks half orc son
>ywn sell your house to pay the debts she left from buying opium
>ywn end up enslaved and being turned into a mindbroken cum dumpster with her
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>>154999776
I think the new vivid is shit, old one is cute, I would use her but I don't have a spot for her anymore, I'm never replacing Anael and Meta/Bell are staying too
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>she will never hurt yourself for ya
>she will never tell you how to diet
>she wont give you her horns
>and other stuff on her body
Why do even live
>>
>>155000537
Just stop. You thought she used to be cute and you replaced her before she got her EE for esport reasons.
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>>155000590
whatever you say anon
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Silk is shit
Cum at me CG
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>>155000564
>she won't teach you how to english
>>155000664
>thinks new vivid is shit
>you can still use old vivid skin
>not replacing ustiel to make a 4man midline since his alleged backline is so shit it doesn't matter how many players you have there anyways
Just admit you're a fraud and kill yourself, no one cares about you
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>>155000893
I use a 4 man front line already dumbass
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>>155000893
>do I was?
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>>154996906
>comedygol stole my meme

That's almost as good as sucking your dick, t-thanks!
>>
>>155000939
>triggering the cuck
>not even thinking on using vf in backline for more heal for his shitty meme fuccboi gk
>implying that 4man front does anything
Only Elaine and Milky do anything there. Any striker can do what Irru does there, and Nari is just a waste of space there. Might as well dump that ugly slut
>>
>154998725
Here's you no (You).
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>>155001113
Now thats what an esportsfag would do
>>
>apparently there is a drawfag event

What is your entry, /ssg/?
>>
>>155001173
>implying he isn't an e-sportsfag already
No one believes this "i-i'm here for c-c-ute guise! o-only use e-sports because cute :^)" shit.
>>
>>155001173

Only teams as bad as the noautist can be considered "I'm here for the QTs.

Also, thundercunts don't count.
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>>155001357
>thundercunts don't count.
why the fuck not
>>
>>155001357
>>155001415
>thunderfags
>for qts
>when only qts they have are lower than 5* like Kumi
Only element that can be considered for cuties and have a team filled with 5* is dark since it's so shit even with an optimal built
>>
>>155001415
Cause thunder is ugly cancer
>>
>>155001442
>dark
>shit
Its pretty decent now
>>
>>155001442
>>155001456
>Griffith
>Hildegard
>Cynthia
>Nerua
>Askeladd
>Nute
>not cute
>>
>>155001563
Only Ass is cute there
>>
>>155001563
and Guin
>>155001616
bet you think Lia and BT are cute though right
>>
>>155001662
No
>>
>>155001616
cynthia a cute
>>
>>155001682
gays aren't allowed to judge looks
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>>155001442
>>155001456
> Shit taste

But why?

tfw my favorite soccer slut Alkyde doesn't have an EE yet
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>>155001616
Here (You) go, I know (You) really needed one.
>>
At 900GP, Freyja turned up in scout. How to make 700GP?
>>
>>155002438
CoT
CoD as high as you can every day
open wallet
these are things you should always be doing
>>
>>155002578
She's not essential but I like to have a full collection and I don't have her yet.
>>
>>155002931
Build your team first.
I mean actually build it.
After that you can scout fetish however you want.
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>>155003218
My team is mostly finished, I don't need anything other than the odd superb.
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~after 32 more tries
"I g-guess, you should do it again, I dare y-you, Blade"
>>
Who has the best dick and why is it _CG_?
>>
>>155005141
>best dick
>not Yuuka's futa horsecock

CG's is up there though, but you gotta be honest fampai
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why is this allowed?
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>>155004837
Kei is such a good gk.
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>>155005406
Tell me why he isn't.
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>>155005627
No sustain, can be one shotted if no bar, needs to be on the brink of death to be effective, easily exploited by stacking fronts, and the list keeps going,
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>56 posters
and people here said the 7th star patch made the game better than ever.

Stop playing this dead game and go play a superior game like gbfg or msl
>>
>>155005907
She's so perfect
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>>155005969
She's a plain whore, stop replying to yourself Narane
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>>155006115
PERFECT!
>>
ComedyGol is sexy.
>>
ComedyGol is handsome.
>>
I love ComedyGol.
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I want CG's babies.
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>>155006151
>>
>>155007235
meant for
>>155006229
>>155006569
>>155006643
>>155006826
>>
>>155006569
>>155006229
>>155006643
>>155006826
Shut up CG
>>
>>155008189
No, i meant for both.
But i didnt wanted to waste time quoting all that shit
Lia a shit
a
s
h
i
t
>>
Please marry me CG.
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>>154997498
You can't even do math right. Consider a Full Totem back with selfish GK against a full selfish front.
Front:
>100%/100%/100%/100%

Back:
>133%/133%/233%/133%/133%

The striker has no chance at all of beating a GK that has over 2 times his stats. The only way to have a chance is to run a full totem front with selfish striker,
Totem Front:
>200%/100%/100%/100%

This way the opponent GK will have a very small advantage, and thus, killable 2 shots.


What you say will never work, because Selfish+totems will always be stronger than just selfish(unless totems gets so weak, that a 4x totem is considerable less than 100%), so you have to run totems. I don't know why you are so against giving totems to inherently shitty selfish players, this is all they need, and it doesn't need to be plain +stat1% and +stat2%, there are debuffs, recovers, stackings, attack-based, attacked-based, percentage-based, global effects, combination of those, etc.
>>
Not alive
>>
Beato totem rework when
>>
>>154997814
FUCKING THISSSS
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DEAD GAME
>>
4 kumas
3 Meras
1 Beelze
Meh
>>
>>154997814
>complaining after WW got one of the most broken EE's in a long time
>>
>>155002578
I sold all my 3* and a few 4* and it was enough.

Turns out a good part about using crystals for draws is I always have a supply of shit to sell for GP when needed

Feels good having the Thunder/Dark ace in case I wanna do that someday
>>
>>155013828
>what is a joke?
>>
>>155009690
Good point. Perhaps totems should be nerfed down to 20% since up to 5 can stack in a line.

However, in your example, the striker does not need to take damage to deal damage to a minimum of two and a maximum of three in the defending line, due to the nature of shoot, and the defending backline will have to deal with the opposing line with only 33% advantage. At this point, critical, elemetal damage, and who goes first will be more important than the 33% bonus the defending line has. Giving the selfish units a better chance of stealing the ball and the striker shooting again. In comparison to the 400% advantage they currently hold for now.

This is just the beginning of the model I am trying to work on. And just like what you have pointed out 66.66% nerf to all totems is still too generous -- it should be 80~85%. I will get to the
>debuffs, recovers, stackings, attack-based, attacked-based, percentage-based, global effects, combination of those, etc.
as well. For now I am really just focusing on the simplest model.

The reason why I opted for 33% is because I initially considered without the support unit and the fact that shoots are free damage. But of course we can adjust that to 20-25% -- which I am sure totem fags will just say that they are now useless when just like what you said a selfish unit stacked with totems will always be better up to this range. Besides, why give up on selfish units too easily when scaling allows them to keep their identity as selfish?
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What are the next 2 easiest CoT floors at 5-x after 5-1 and 5-2?

I'm close to that sweet 500gp/15 dstones
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>tfw normie life has taken away my drawfag time

Help.
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>>155005325
Yuran is cute.
>>
>>155017394
5-4, just heal whatever damage William does and keep shooting over and over
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>>155017769
>normie life
have you abandoned your waifu? What has happened to you, I am disappointed.
>>
>>155016162
I don't know why you hate totems so much, because instead of giving use to a dozen of players, you want nerf 90% of the roster.

And not only that, but you will have to rebalance the entire CoD, CoT, and even Event matches, like the Superb Bosses, Bosses, Stone Matches, and etc. Because the entire game is balanced with totems in mind.
>>
>only joined snowball to be closer to cg
>he still doesnt notice me
>tfw
>>
Edward match
>Piercing wind
Shit...
>>
What the fuck
>>
>>155020593
u gon get fucked
>>
>>155020593
What species of whale is this?
>>
>>155021034
Saudi Prince
>>
What's the best unique for Ravian?
(Is she able to do damages without switching stone element?, as f2p I would have only 1 chance)
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>>155020593
>using free kiki skin
>not using bell skin
>whale
He's just an autistic cuck. Silla and Linmeme are a free pen, ez shit
>>
>>155024017
whos this qt
>>
>>155020593
>only one HP buff in backline
Why do people insist on doing this?
>>
>>155024083
Most Bell are also free pen

T. Bell user
>>
>>155024183
probably because it's not needed when you're the one using it and you get the affection chain and the enemy has none of the chains
see: >>154993345
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>>155024275
A free pen for both players to be fair.
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>>155021110
He has no Bell skin, so this is not Saudi prince.
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Just got this from the 30th day box
Thoughts?
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>>155024152
the next patch's EE
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>>155024183
Because building an optimal setup and not follow the masses with original thinking is not the way of cutting cookies
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>>155024563
She hates duck so she must have good taste
>>
>>155024591
>nex legends getting an ee before all the other legends are released
There's clearly a pattern. Next legend will be in a couple months, next one will be like half a year after, and the last one along with ee one week before __________________game dies____________________
>>
>>155024183
Do you realize how much baseHP jin got and how good is kiki for him in terms of health % bonus? Silla ace is also a high ammount of virtual health, and other aces with hp bonus are also can be counted as hp totem. No need to get more for jin, its better to focus on sustain - healing/cr/dr
>>
CG please respond to me.
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>>155025035
Fair enough. They should make it so chains activate for opponents really. It would make climbing more fair because you actually face the enemy team at full strength and not handicapped.
>>
>>155004837
What does a frontliner Ronald give?
>>
I'm at the point where I have to invest for GK.
Who should I pick between these?
Lucian
Zibroi
Ronald
Jin
>>
>>155025586
Nah, the chain system is already unbalanced as it is due to developers picking some retarded ass chains for most of the older units.
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>>155027390
I don't see how it would be worse if they activated for the enemy.
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>>155028426
>WW chains
>Enemy Jins having hp/defense bonus from kiki
>WW being even troublesome
>Thunder being adequate if they have Bell

Being a thunderfag without Bell is truly suffering
>>
>>155028763
>My cookie cutter team has no chains...
>so it's unfair if the enemy put some thought into constructing their team and has a lot of them!
lel kay
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>>155030000
What a waste of digits.
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>>155030000
To be fair there isn't much thought in constructing mono thunder/WW teams too.
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>>155027271
Find a qt gk
>>
Home teams should have an advantage, and thats positioning and chains
You guys would just complain more even more about thunder, WW or Angela if away teams had chains
>>
>>155031140
Why would anyone ever complain about thunder? They're in the trashcan at the moment.
>>
>>155031378
Fuck off, theyre still a top 3 element
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>>155031427
>Top 3 out of 5 elements

That doesn't mean much anon
>>
>>155031816
it does
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>>155031427
I can only see them being above dark.
>>
the only thing holding thunder back is their backline, and that might even change soon
>>
>>155031997
Doing no damage to WW GKs is another issue.
>>
>>155032119
WW backlines being broken is a different problem, it doesn't change the fact that thunder is still great
>>
>>155032239
I mean, I'm a thunder player, and I love thunder, right?

But it's hard to justify playing it when WW and Ardor just do everything you used to be known for better than you, now. I miss the invincible thunder mid.

But yeah, WW backlines really are just a general issue in the game's balance. It just hits thunder the hardest, I suppose.
>>
>ww backlines
>broken
nice meme
only silk is keeping it afloat
>>
>>155033176
Silk has caused the crit rate and crit resistance stacking arms race to reach its most degenerate point yet.
>>
>>155031140
They have a huge advantage in that they can be adjusted so they don't need any more

It's totally fair that enemy team would get access to chains because it's essential for some players. For example Angela relying on Kevin for HP.

Plus it'd make climbing harder so fewer people in galaxy.
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>>155033396
>btw I use Angela and want easy away wins
Angela's only weakness is that she needs kevin to be good, change that and shes completely broken
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>>155033648
Again, it's only fair that opponent team gets chains. There's too many people in galaxy so something that makes it harder to climb is good.

I also don't care about away wins gold.
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>>155034138
>so something that makes it harder to climb is good.
better to balance the game than make more things broken, a lot of people are in galaxy not just cause they're using cancer teams, but they've invested enough into their teams too, if anything they should just add another league
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>>155034138
Why don't they just buff away win rewards?

No more grievers
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>>155034259
Having chains activated for away teams would balance the game.
>>
>>155034419
no it wouldnt, it would make everything worse theres too much players with shit chains
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>>155034609
But players build their teams around chains you dumb fuck. Why is this so hard to understand? Their teams are designed with chains in mind. So how the fuck does it make sense that chains would be disabled in away games? It means you're facing a butchered handicapped version of their team.
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>>155034792
no one builds their teams around chains, not many players have chains that matter, most of them are just garbage
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>>155034792
>Players build their teams around chains
>>
>>155034927
Blatantly false, did you start playing last week? Chains are important for many units. Not all of them but certainly many
>>
>>155034792
>But players build their teams around chains you dumb fuck.
Not him, but I literally just throw all types of cancer in my team for it work and couldn't care less for chains other than my striker/gk.
>>
Which are the characters you'd love to use in e-sports but the meta won't let you use it without making your team garbage?
mine are
>rakshasa
>rudiel
>irre
>mariel
>wg
>sky
>niarose
>lynbell
>orses
>>
>>155034986
Look at a Thunder team with Vann sometime and see how many chains it has activated

Look at a WW team with Nera CM sometime and notice how it relies on Neras excellent chains to shine

And so on and so forth

Chains being deactivated in away games is nonsense and probably is no conscious decision by BB but simply them being too lazy to code it.
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>>155033339
>silk only gives crit
>milky gives crit, attack, reflex and speed to front
>elaine gives attack, pass effect, crit, and reduces dr and defense of the gk
>silk is cancer, those two are fine
>>
>>155034927
>>155034986
>>155035060
>These are the people who don't want chains activated for away games
wew lad
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Clearly, the best option is to just make it so that you lose some (reduced) league points if you lose away games. Like, you know, an actual rating system. This way, players who are actually shit will fall below 1000.

Make it so that if you fall below a league threshold, you don't actually fall down unless you fall two leagues below. Greatly buff the rewards for watching league so you still have an incentive to actually burn balls, though, because galaxy players will probably get to that level just by not actually playing.
>>
>>155035249
Milky and Elaine don't stay at full health forever
>>
>>155035060
>many
no, GKs are probably the main units who need their chains

>>155035129
>the meta won't let you use it
more like they're just garbage or have no EE

>>155035249
silk started the crit resist meta, the other two didn't start any meta, Elaine is used cause CR is retarded right now
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>>155035221
>vann
>nera cm
>implying lots of people use those in high league
Must be comfy being a bronzie
>>
>>155035383
>no, GKs are probably the main units who need their chains
and also, most of them have shit chains anyways, letting chains activate in away teams would be retarded at least until they fix chains
>>
>>155035389
What difference does that make? It has no effect on the argument

And besides even top tier teams use some chains even if they are for the most part not an essential part of team-building.
>>
>>155035129
front without elaine
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>>155035494
How is it an argument that because some units have bad chains no one should have any chains at all in away games?
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>>155035383
>elaine is ued because cr is retarded
>not because of the rest of her skills
That's the excuse you use against Shura who only gives that, Elaine gives os much more.
>>155035359
>he can't kill silks
>implying it matters when she'll suicide anyways since her stats are shit
>implying she'll be able to steal with her shitty ai
wew lad
>>155035501
Chains aren't an essential part of team building except for the gk. the rest can live without those.
Besides, chain system is bullshit. Only latest units have good chains, the rest are literally fucked in the ass for the most part
>isillio without affection chain
>some players have useful chains with 3 legendaries in it to unlock
>some players have shit like 2* in important chains
>>
>>155035640
chains are already not balanced and they would be even further from balanced if they made them activate in away matches
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>>155035793
>i built a shitty team without any chains
>everyone should suffer for it
kys, senpai I want my fucking away gold so activate those away chains
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Is this the ideal meme setup for Thunder, or am I missing anything?

I'm a tad worried about Leventors crit rate, but whatever.
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>>155035791
Elaine does give more than Shura but Shura doesn't have much other than her crit buff/debuff, its better to use an assist who can actually pass for a lot instead, she'll probably be used more once she gets an EE
>implying you can kill silk when she revives every 3 minutes
>implying her stats are shit
>implying she won't always steal with her heal

>>155035974
most players just have shit chains dumbass
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>>155036062
Hahahahahahhahahaha

>managing to use THAT many males in a Thunder team
The whole point in going Thunder is the girls you sad fuck
>>
>>155035974
post your "good" team then
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>>155036284
Oh look, another >males shitposter

Go fuck yourself, you braindead mongoloid, I'm using the best girls.
>>
>>155036506
>>155036062
>best girls
>veronica
>freyja
>nute
>nerua
>hildegard
>nikita
>>
>>155036440
nah, you'll just steal my team once bb incorporates chains for away teams because you're too braindead to build a team yourself
>>
>>155036685
Hilde is 100% best girl.
>>
>>155036917
cause your team is so original right?
>>
Reminder to just put all cancer units in your team, BB can't nerf all of them in one swoop.
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>>155036506
>filling your frontline with ugly males for muh esprtsss
Hahahaha

Hahaha

Oh wow you really fucked up playing this game
>>
>>155037282
>sexual insecurity - the post
>>
>>155036062
>Balth + Leventor in pvp
>4 man front on Leventor in pvp
>Choi in the front instead of mid
>Thunder GK
>Hildegard

Why? You already pussied out of going thunder meme by using off color units up front when your on color units give what Leventor needs, yet you insist on using a free win GK and wont put an off color unit in the back?
>>
>>155037847
I have a MSPU Luka, but I'm torn between using her and Balth - Balth gives much bigger numbers, but Luka gives the pen I need, and a small bit of free crit.

Does Choi go mid? I've seen him used in both, I was kind of thinking I could use him and Elaine to ruin people in their backlines.

I have the current shitty backline because I'm about get Askeladd, 30DS away now. I'll swap Nikita out for her. I guess I should throw Raklet back in.

What's wrong with Hilde? She's reliable.
>>
>Use Ronald
>Has affection chain on and commonly gets nemesis chain activated, too
>Lose +50% hp bonus in away games and likely lose that sweet 500 gold
Dank.
>>
>>155038301
you would have lost either way
>>
Why aren't you in top 100 of PvP, anon?
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>>155038338
pls stop
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>>155038519
Is that girl the same an anon used to post the "Reminder to do your dailies!"?
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>>155037426
>play waifu collecting game
>use males
G a y
>>
>>155038602
yes
>>
>>155038164
Luka -Veronica gives 50% crit, 20% speed/pass and 30% reflex.
If you opt for Elaine you have freedom to use Luka or Balth since 2 stacks from Elaine gives 50% crit.
In the end you know better whether or not critting is an issue for your Leventor vs your opponents.
Choi is good mid or front, but midline with IC gives him the initiative to blow someone up and give the fat buff to the front line.
HIldegard isn't bad with your line but Thunder backines are their weakest point and HIlde doesn't do shit to help Nute. At least with your setup she has plenty of CAR to punch out but if for some reason she can't one shot what's in front of her, you're fucked.
>>
Thunder backline buffs WHEN? New thunder unit was a great release but we need something good for once.
>>
>>155039116
It's been a a real struggle for me to try and come up with a lineup I like, to be honest.

I'm contemplating running Elaine/Luka, it gives a good chunk of Crit, AS, Pen, etc - it doesn't have Baltheon as a semi-wall, but that's fine.

In an ideal world, I'd run a line that gave me enough crit to get away with using Glab over SHoT - that's partially why I'm trying to overcompensate so hard with Choi/Elaine for damage. I'm positive that running the Choi/Elaine/Balth lane would be disastrous for my crit rate, I'd probably only hit 300% on active.

Is IC Choi still a thing? I thought after IC was gutted that stopped working. I was going to slap a Calm Icicle on him, but that seems like it could still work.

Coming up with my midline has been the real hardest part - 3 man vs 4 man, and choosing between all my players. Bell and Freyja seem like complete necessities, and as much as I'd like to run Cynthia, I probably need another reflex player - hence why I was thinking about Vero mid.

I'm trying to figure out if I want Askeladd, Khirel, or something else with my DS - I was thinking of running Ass/Nerua/Hilde with Raklet GK. Raklet would eat one shot with her huge health pool, and then I could long pass. I'm not sure, honestly.

Hilde definitely has the CAR, though - I have a Fontus. I'm worried that someday I won't be able to punch through a frontliner as well, and I'll just lose there - that's part of why Askeladd seems so appealing. Well, that and skipping the current cancer mids.
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>>155039956
Then again, I lose 25% AP by not running Baltheon. Hard choices.
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Anyone here who has a Sharr with a light slot?
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>>155039956
Elaine is more of a wall than Balth by virtue of her kit. Even if she's not fully superb you can forego her 2nd passive, max her 3rd on and have a nice reflex wall. I use Calm Icicle on mine but Battalion and EBM are great choice too.
Honestly you can forget about running Glab. Despite it's generous buff, Pen just isn't as good to have above 40%-50% with it's diminished effectiveness vs DR and the overabundance of DR on certain units.
IC Choi is a thing but I forgot he has a thunder slot. Calm Icicle would great on him too.
If you run 4 man mid you gotta have Cynthia with Bell in center.
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>>155040551
I think only one anon was memeing with MW Sharr in here, but Glabaris and Teranox are far better for her.
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>>155041297
Aye, my Elaine is MSPU and she's pretty crazy. My stone setup is definitely not ideal, though - EBM, blue pass, dark AS, red reflex. Even in the middle of the line she only has 10 AS on Baltheon, and doesn't act first half the time thanks to RNG starting bars. It's a major nuisance.

It's as I feared, I can't justify running Glab at all. Maybe after I get Askeladd or Choi I'll reroll slots for WoM. Maybe TB. The reduced effectiveness of pen is definitely something in favour of keeping Balth in my line, at least.

I could theoretically do Leventor/Vero/Elaine/Balth with Choi/Bell/Freyja mid, but that loses really hard in the reflex war.

There's just too many options on how to set these up. I think I''ll go Calm Icicle on Choi, I can see him being an absolute monster with it, and anything that makes him faster is great.

4 man mid does still appeal to me though, I'll have to think about it.
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>>155042579
Err, not Choi. Khirel. I already have Choi.
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>>155042147
Not really.
Sharr is slow AF, getting AB recovery is great for her in pvp.
And in pve which is the main thing I'm interested in switching slot for - I'm wondering about how effective SoB is on her.
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>>155043313
>Sharr is slow AF, getting AB recovery is great for her in pvp.
I can see that, but it's far easier to just run TB imo.

Though if Sharr can properly crit using MW + 2 red crit she probably wreck even non-ww GKs
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We haven't gotten recalls lately.
Which character do you think gets a recall next?
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>>155043313
for PvE she'd want as much damage as she can get on the first shot to try to OHKO
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>>155043961
None, BB is giving small nerfs on purpose. See Virgil: 2 small nerfs in 2 updates so you can't recall him at all.

They are just going to keep at this.
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>>155044058
>OHKO
kind of awful to try to do that beyond colo 48
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>>155043938
That's the point. She has a massive damage spike with crits thanks to the Ardor crit dmg stones.

>>155044058
Which is why BE is better than teranox for OHKO providing you can reliably crit. I'm wondering how SoB compares.
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>>155044310
Her power spike isn't just the red crit, she lowers DR + deals extra dmg to all GKs, that's the main source of her retarded damage.

If my MW Vonchi with 2 red crit is wrecking shit, she probably could do it better in early match on my guess
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>>155044265
at least she's probably the only striker that can 1hko 51 in less than 2 minutes. everything else after 47 is 1hko or 2hko with the typical crit damage active setup
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>>155043961
None.
Recall is dead, as it should be.
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>>155044837
Indeed. Once I do CoT this week, I should have about 350 stones, which I'm hoping should be enough.
Or alternatively, I could just save for Askeladd who provides a similar damage boost. Just dunno which one's more effective.
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>>155037426
Oh, look, it's another esportsfag using >muh sexual insecurity
to try to justify using hideous males and cancerous faggots.
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>>155046616
>and cancerous faggots.
>implying males are the biggest cancer
>what are metatron,victoria,sharr,shanti,angela,milky way,alice,beth,silk,kiki etc
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>murrica prime time
>esports talk, falseflagging and game related stuff

>aussy prime time
>dick sucking and being gay
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>>155044058
None. Recall was a mistake. I'm glad it's gone.
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I have Shanti and Patricia on scouts.
I already have Lucid but I'm thinking of getting an alt striker for better matchups.
Mainly running Dark/WW.
Who should I get?
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>>155048321
shanti unless you run a dark backline or dark gk
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>>155047885
at least half of those listed aren't cancer, womilly, vonchi and choi are like the biggest cancers right now too
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>>155048407
>btw i run light/ardor with milky ace
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>>155047885
>Beth, Kiki
>Also completely ignoring most cancerous fags in the game, who can win games by themselves- William, Vonchi, Choi, Virgil, Kirin
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>>155048619
no I run rainbow with Milky ace
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>>155048321
patti is cute and all, but until she gets her EE she's not as useful as shanti would be for you
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>>155048650
but i was talking about females being the biggest cancer, he said it was males the biggest cancer
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>>155048650
>Kirin
>cancer
Nigga pls. shanti is the tumor.
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Why is Choi cancer?
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>>155049029
>kirin
>not cancer
nice meme, he was already cancer and they buffed him even more
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>>155048810
Males are a bigger cancer though, and much harder to actually work around and counter, if at all.
I still can't see how one can properly counter Vonchi, WoMliam and Kirin, aside from not letting them shoot at all. Good luck with that.
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>>155048650
>who can win games by themselves
>Kirin
Kirin only win when you setup a team properly, that was a bad analysis. Though he CAN be bullshit with a well done team.

Who am I kidding, just throw Elaine and Choi in his frontline and it becomes hell
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>>155049187
>Elaine
other than choi, most leaders wouldn't be that great with him cause they'd lose a lot of HP on a steal attempt and probably stop stealing eventually
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>>155049178
>I still can't see how one can properly counter Vonchi, WoMliam and Kirin, aside from not letting them shoot at all. Good luck with that.
You don't let them crit, I have remade my team entirely to work on this. Though my BT still get critted at Vonchi first shoot most of times.

>EBM Kevin in backline + Silk hat uses her active by the 8min~ in-game, normally
>Alice in mid to debuff Vonchi/William crit, they normally don't get KOd anyway so they end up having the stack forever
People with Jin could also use him for extra crit debuff
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ITT: Thundercucks hating on kirin, a T3 striker.
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>>155049609
anyone with bad backline complain about him
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>>155049187
Yes, and it's not like they are particularly rare. Elaine isn't even mandatory

>>155049326
>wut are Dark crit dmg and Green Steal stones

>>155049398
I'm in the process of doing that too. It's a necessity nowadays.
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>>155049880
>Yes, and it's not like they are particularly rare. Elaine isn't even mandatory
I am not even complaining about Kirin, at least he isn't a brainless character like Sharr or Vonchi. I find it funny that people actually complain about him that is a striker where you need to make specific bullshits to work properly
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>>155049880
those stones don't heal that much HP unless you do well over 1k+ crits and most leaders can only do that when they're stacked with buffs
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>>155037169
Everyone who uses this excuse is full of shit. Just ignore and they'll fade away as they always do.
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>>155050173
True, but the really oppressive Kirin lines are 4 man. Since his unneeded buff, he himself has high steal damage, and you can always use other leaders like Milky who has DR on attack, or Silk who heals naturally.
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Dick now, ComedyGol!
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>>155050070
I usually don't have problems with Kirin, but paralyze is so fucking unfair and annoying. Only good Kirin teams have 4mans with Elaine and usually Bell or Silk, and I remember some using Rudiel.
Those shits are disgusting.
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>>155050638
Fuck off, its e-sports time.
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>>155050751
Last time I lost to a Kirin bullshit was because:

>Choi,Linmay,Metatron,Kirin
If you hit that duo mid, it would heal a lot and you would take a lot of dmg because of Battalion and TW dmg boost
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>>155051045
duo center*
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>>155051618
When he stops playing Pokemon Go and join /ssg/
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>ywn be a thread celeb with a dedicated autist who wants to suck your dick

why even live?
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m-marry me lucid!
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>>155051907
at least he doesn't spam like the Denk poster
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>>155052146
he does though
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>>155052313
I would hardly call that spamming. The cuck was far worse.
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>>155051618
Never, you disgusting degenerate.
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>>155052521
This, he may shitpost about CG and Clop but at least it's not 3 posts in less than 5 minutes.
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S-spank me Chitose!
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FUCKING MILKY SLUT BUFFING THESE VONCHIS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>tfw your investment doesn't pay off

Thunder buffs when?
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>>155054157
Never, and they're going to just keep buffing WW.
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>Another Drawfag event
>Can't draw for shit
>Can't color for shit
Fuck me in the ass
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>>155054295
I'll fuck you in the ass
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I tried making Elaine our most loved Soccer Spirits character in Honey Select.

How is it goys? :^)
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>>155054238
>ww
>getting more buffs

I predict the age of light is soon to dawn upon us, friend. Starting with a legendary gk. Screenshot this.
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>>155054763
Doesn't even look like her
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>>155054763
Uglier than the real thing
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>>155054763
Elaine's hair is blue
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>>155054763
Good job anon!
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>>155054763
I like

Would impregnate
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>>155055158
It's actually a light blue, but Studio has some Lightning effects that I still haven't got around which made her skinn and hair looks darker

>>155055071
>tfw I can't make 2D character properly in it like I could in CM3D2
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Reminder to do your dailies!
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>>155054763
Doesn't look one bit like Elaine.

You must be colorblind too.
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>>155055430
Congrats on best dark boy.
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>>155055430
How was her ee anyway?
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>>155056132
It was dark
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>>155056132
Its pretty damn good.
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>>155056132
turned out pretty solid.
definitely usable if you have no one to fill her space
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If Light ever becomes cancer tier again, will Thunder become relevant again?
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>>155056661
Light is cancer. Just not in mono form.
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>>155056661
It's quite cancer, but not the best
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Waiting for the legendary dark gk qt.
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>>155056773
Its going to be a man. Dark already has two girls
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>>155057138
Insider here, dark will receive a legend gk that is ronalds brother.
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>>155057383
Does Ronald's brother also enjoy Milky?
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>>155056773
fug that.
we need a healer
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>>155057515
And who doesn't? Second most used goods after Silk.
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>>155056773
>He doesn't know that dark will get a male legend.
Chances are it'll be an attacker.
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>>155057515
These are the chains for now
Rival:Vitos, Uriel
Friend:Alkyde, Fontus, Avnore
Nemesis: Beth, Virgil, Hiro
Affection: Orses, Morgana
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New dark legend will be a top tier waifu.

Light will get a cute boy or a loli.

WW will be another fujobait.
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>>155058091
Telling you right now

WW will be female
Light will be female
Dark will be s man

Screenshot this
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New light legendary will be a male gk, that heal for 15% after taking damage, increase DR and CR after each shoot taken, Increase DR and CR again when lower than 80% hp, Active long pass asslad like.
New dark legendary male attacker, Worst than duke.
New WW will be a female with a derp face, it will be the Shu of the next batch of legendaries
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>>155058673
Heals the line for 15% after taking damage
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With the insane WW bias shown by B recently, I honestly expect the new WW legend to be the most broken player yet.
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>>155058673
>New light legendary will be a male gk
wrong
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>>155058854
>WW bias

You mean Ardor and WW and Dark.
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>>155058673
Thats kei if he didnt sucked dicks.
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>>155059150
Will be Kei+Lucian combo
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Is Felix going to be the worst legend of the new batch? He seems like total garbage.
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>>155059379
he could be a more annoying meta
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>>155059379
Wait till his EE debunks all the meta's mid.
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>>155059379
Nope.
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>>155055304
Then just do on CM3D2, it's far superior than current illusion games.
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>>155058854
>ww bias
>most broken s2 legends are choi and vonchi
>strongest strikers are ardor
>most cancerous strikers are light
>best gk is ardor
Do people still believe this meme?
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Dark is getting a male
WW is getting a male
Light is getting a transgender male
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>>155060159
>strongest strikers are ardor
>what is shanti what is vonchi
>best backline is WW
The only people who have the ability to complain are mono darkers and thunder users.
Youre fighting cancer with cancer at this point.
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>>155060612
>thunder users.
no
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>>155054763
>man face
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>>155060730
yes
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>>155061145
thunder is fine
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>>155061212
>doesnt mix well with other colours
>worse pve by far
>rekt by ww backline
>rekt mid by vero meta
>worse backline in the game on par with mono dark
>GKs have no DR whatsoever same as dark
>THUNDER IS F-F-FINE GUYS
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>>155061212
>No good hybrid aces
>No goalie
>Shit backline
>Only decent strikers have no EE or is a legend
>No real CM
>FIne
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>>155061472
But thunder has crazy synergy with WW, specially if you just throw Khirel in it their crit dmg goes retarded high because of Veronica + Khirel
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>>155061650
>implying youre going to crit vs jin duran silk
>implying bt/angela takes damage or can be OHKO'ed
Vs trash angelas my lev ohkos vs decent backlines he needs 4~6 shots.
3 if all of them are crits.
Meanwhile sharr vonchi and shanti either OHKO's my raklet or 2 shots it.
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>>155061472
>doesn't mix well with other colours
There are Thunder/Light and Thunder/WW aces. The latter in particular can make a great team. Stop being retarded and claiming Thunder is weak just because you're a mono autist.

>worse pve by far
All mono face this problem, which is why you invest in multiple elements/units for pve.
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>>155061472
Just oneshot some light gks, 20% freewins with zero effort. Some more work and you got stable climb.
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>>155062008
You run quite a shit Leventor then m8, a guy yesterday against TWO units and my BT dealt 1,3k with just his active shoot critting.

And in Galaxy most Leventor can deal up to 1,8k crit with a combo, but later on they fail to crit. Still for a thunder vs BT+Magnus that damage seem very high which means he is far from shit
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>>155059379
I think so too

>Heal requires him to take crit damage and its just for the position

already inferior than meta
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>>155062046
Lol
>Nikita
Good totem but worthless backline unit
>Zhen Long
"good" totem but weak unit compared to actual thunder units that go in his position
>Vayne
Boss nuff said

>Hiro
He needs a rework and is a striker
>Haru
Needs an EE and we can talk
>Dynames
Long passer

Nah
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>>155062259
> but later on they fail to crit
I dont even need to say anything.
Do you know how much lev is dependant on his criticals?
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>>155062519
Not him but Griffith and even Vann aren't dogshit, specially Griffith she is probably the best 5* of thunder.

But most can't crit properly runnig the default thunder frontline when they could just use Shura or Elaine offcolor
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>>155062656
>Do you know how much lev is dependant on his criticals?
Even my Vonchi is dependant on crit, which is why I am using Elaine and Shura to make sure he does crit against the most bullshit backlines.

The real problem is that most thunder players just doesn't run offcolor units to help themselves.
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>>155062660
>specially Griffith she is probably the best 5* of thunder.

Nope
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>>155062519
You forgot Jean.
Awesome Ace isnt he.
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>>155062765
>The real problem is that most thunder players just doesn't run offcolor units to help themselves.

That isn't a problem you retard.

You realize Elaine with fucking Milky isn't off color?

Thunder literally has the worse hybrid aces in the game.
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>>155062765
>most thunder players just doesn't run offcolor units
I got ridiculed for planning on running Leventor/Choi/Elaine/Baltheon :^)
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>>155062849
Jean is ardor/thunder I didn't forget him. He just was not on topic. Freya is like our best hybrid ace and even then if you plan to use a healer you can use Virgil and he is way better.

He is also a shit hybrid ace for thunder though.
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Where can I find the voiceclips of this game?
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>>155062991
Oh, i didnt read that it was only light/thunder.
But yeaaaaaaaaah i was being ironic about jean.
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>>155062938
Congrats on not being a retarded drone like most thunderfags.
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>>155059379
If his selfish buff turns into linewide, he's gonna feel like just another Meta except more tanking power for less AB stuff

needing to take a crit to heal is interesting though, since the entire enemy team having decent crit could mean he's gonna revive the team on both attacking and being attacked
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>>155062884
>You realize Elaine with fucking Milky isn't off color?
I am running Silk ace mostly to cover my BT + backline and Metatron specifically, only Shura is oncolor of my frontline but that reflex gain does nothing because people always penetrate her anyway

>>155062938
As long it works, that's what matters anon
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>>155062938
Yeah anon 4 legendary units

Wew lad
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>>155063613
Indeed.

It'll be 5 shortly, but decisions are hard.
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>>155062519
>Nikita
>25% HP, Def, A.Spd
>Generates spirit, tons if you give her a PS
>Avoids giving the ball away to Elaines and Metas
>Tanky ballholder
>worthless
No wonder you're shit at the game. If you don't want her doing anything, then you have her eat shots. But otherwise, I'd argue she's a better backline unit than Nerua is in the current meta.
Zhen Long and Vayne are bad. Dynames and Haru are okay units.
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>>155063613
But elaine isnt l-
Oh yeah 4 legendary units.
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>>155060612
>sharr can end games in almost the same time as vonchi
>shanti still needs to crit to just do damage to non thunder players, and still does less damage than sharr
>ww
>best backline
>when elaine can destroy every backline player by herself
>implying kevin/dq/gaphyl/X with Angela GK isn't best
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>>155063786
Try using her in the backline

You're going to enjoy all the times she passes or doesn't kill the unit in front of her even though she has more than enough stats to do it.

Oh? 1.5 bars for a pass? Well you enjoy that too

The only good long passer is Asslad.
>>
>lucian used to be the best gk
>now he dies in 2 shots
lmao
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>>155064061
He is still 2nd or third best goalie.
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>>155064061
He was the best because he wouldn't get critted and would heal it all, but now he gets critted and can't heal the dmg.
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>>155063879
>passers just pass instead of doing anything but passing
Who'd knew!
>long passers need 1.5 bars for a long pass, like long passers do
You don't say!
>only good long passer is asslad
>nikita isn't good passer
This is another level of wisdom you're spreading here
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>>155064190
Post your team with Nikita anon. I will wait

I actually own her fully superb. Of course she has to be there on a mono team. Her totem is fantastic. Otherwise she is literally just there.

Nerua does far more and is not surpassed by Nikita in anyway.
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>>155064329
I don't have Nikita, but I've seen some good mono thunder teams with nikita, and her totem is one of the best for backline, and she herself isn't a bad player there.
>comparing nerua with nikita
For what reason? Just use both in the same line.
Or are you implying nikita isn't good because she isn't as broken as nerua?
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>>155064127
>2nd or 3rd
Angela, BT, jin, isillio, raklet
??????
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>>155064645
Nigga of course you would use both. They are the only two good backline thunder units.
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>>155064791
Funny guy

Angela >>> Jin >/= Lucian >> BT >> Isillia >>>> Kei >>>>>> Raklet
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>>155064827
>forgetting altai
Nerua/Nikita/Altair backlines have the potential of being brutal depending on what else is there
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>>155064928
>Dark gks literally nowhere
Oh.
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>>155064978
>New unit
>No EE
>Has one good skill
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>>155065040
Oh you're right. I was thinking on that dudes post

Lets make Raklet and Kei look even worse

Ronald >/= Zibroi >>> Kei >>>>>>>> Raklet

Only problem is Dark has some GREAT hybrid aces so they don't use the dark goalies.
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>>155064928
>lucian better than bt
You! are the funny guy.
Isillio, lucian and the rest dies in 2 shots.
Angela BT and jin can at least tank 3~4
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>>155065186
Kei > Zibroi/Raklet > Ronald
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>>155062991
just you wait, he'll save us all from the elaine menace with his future buffs
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>>155065283
He is.

>>155065327
Ronald has a better kit than Kei in this meta.
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>>155065376
T-thanks.

Maybe a high level MCC fag can do one like this too?
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>>155065059
>miho, magnus and gaphyl also doesnt have EEs
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>>155065489
All have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better skill sets than her
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>>155065445
>Ronald has a better kit than Kei in this meta
Explain please
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>>155065563
Maybe her AI is amazing, who knows.
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>>155065445
Mostly the same aside from one skill that Kei needs to stack with and he has the better element. Both of them can be one shot regardless but Kei would have an easier time than Ronald.
>>
>>155065059
>one
>has a DR line buff
>also has a pen resist stacking buff
>can go first cause she starts with 20% ATB and has a 20% AS self buff
>>
>>155065959
Don't argue with thunderfags, they're so mad they're not top anymore everything that isn't as broken as a legend is shit to them.
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>>155066303
t. ww/dark retard who gets rekt by light/ardor
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>>155066709
light/ardor also shits well on thunder
>>
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FUCKING JEAN BUFFS WHEN?? NEW ARDOR/THUNDER SUPREME ACE WHEN?
>>
Thunder/Ardor reflex HP ace when?

It better be on a usable player.
>>
>>155067078
Please tell me what doesnt shits on thunder.
>>
>>155067416
dark, mono light
>>
>>155067416
Dark :^)
>>
>>155067416
anything not ardor/light or ww
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>>155067416
Dark. That's literally it.
>>
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>mfw the new ardor/thunder ace turns out to be a male striker

Fucking big balls would be that devilish.
>>
>>155067498
>>155067609
>he thinks light can beat thunder
>>
>>155067679
kek
>>
>>155067679
They would do this
>>
>>155067679
There's nothing wrong with it being a male. It would all depend on if he's actually good or not.
>>
Im planning on running a Latios MW uriel front, what do you guys think?
>>
>>155067871
>There's nothing wrong with it being a male
>>
>>155067923
>Not being able to appreciate male aesthetics
>>
>>155067698
Vonchi shits on them
>>
>>155067871
You're right, but I would be fucking pissed if we're a striker. Reeeeee
>>
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>>155067114
>>
>>155068084
if they can shoot 2-3 times sure, leventor will just destroy isillia or kei, every light defender would just suicide into their 4 man mid too
>>
>>155068218
But thunder runs 4 front these days. It's the only way we can scratch WW GKs.
>>
>>155064791
>isllio
>raklet
uninstall shitter
>>
>>155068305
then isillia/kei will be ohkoed
>>
>>155068343
That's a pretty common occurrence, yes.
>>
>>155068084
My Vonchi finishes most Raklet in the 3 or 4+ if it's a really defense stacked Raklet, considering all are crit. Compared to most GKs this is still quite good because mosts GKs can survive 3 shoots only if they get shoot by his third active stack
>>
>>155067114
What is this? Her EE?
>>
>>155068313
>Hating the qts
If you didnt realised that only 2 gks are viable you should commit suicide.
>>
>>155068584
Yes
>>
>>155068305
No they dont
>>
Nute or Raklet, lads?

Looking at Nute's stone slots, and I can't help but think that she can stack far more DR than Raklet. Don't know if it helps any, but still, PoME is a nice stone.
>>
Will be a Raiden match in the future?
>>
>>155067679
>giving fred bad ideas
Stop
>>
>>155068638
Where did you find it?
>>
>>155068870
Not him, but it was in Gelbooru for months
>>
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How does it feel, /ssg/?
To know that Dark will reign supreme once our new legend is released?
>>
>>155068973
You mean light.
>>
>>155068973
That would only happen if the unit was great and with an Ace helping Dark a lot
>>
>>155068973
>needing 4 legends to work
That's not reign. Ardor/light will still be way better than that even without legends.
>>
>>155068305
>source: your rectum
>>
Ardor/thunder has the potential to be massive cancer. I suggest you begin investing.
>>
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I really need to work on farming the swirly match.
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>>155068973
Keep dreaming, slut.
>>
>>155067978
>male aesthetics
>when feminine is literal perfection
>>
>>155068750
>>155069518
Show me a thunder team that still runs four mid.

I've seen far more running four front - that's anecdotal, though. It was a comment based on observations.
>>
>>155066709
>when thunder was broken not even ww could scratch them
>now ww is "broken" and it's easily rekt bt ardor or ardor/light
???
>>
>>155069627
FUCKING BASED BEST LEADER ALL HAIL JINTELLO.
>>
>>155069648
>females cant achieve the golden ratio
>literal perfection
>>
>>155069746
Doesn't mean they all run 4 front.

Their backline is weak enough
>>
>>155069627
HAIL NICEBOAT, BEST CLUB AND BEST LEADER
>>
>>155069627
Can I suck your dick?
>>
>>155069627
>beating jcuck
Is this supposed to be an achievement?
>>
>>155069627
>2 most autistic /ssg/ users duking it out
Big congrats on the win.
>>
>>155070124
No, he's just making a statement you filthy heretic!
>>
Gotta love club drama, it's been awhile.
>>
>>155070124
Not at all.
>>
>>155070195
>making a statement
Of what? That everyone can beat his shitty team?
Everybody knows already. Nothing special.
>>
niceboat a shit
>>
>>155070345
>t. Jakenkun
>>
>poorfag
>farming chains and climbing as high as possible in colo since end of the season where i finished rerolling stone slots
>already have 300 dickstones
>only 1200 more to finally get my beloved jiho
Soon I'll get you and stick you in my team even though you're off color and not optimal!
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>>155070237
Better than the cg faggotry.
>>
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>last tournament to get out of gold league
>found this
>>
Club drama died along with qtfruity and bronzelords. It will never be the same again.
>>
>>155071167
But I really like it, I wasn't being ironic.
>>
>Metatron
Why is this cancerous, disgusting, gross, cancer ridden, crabs infected, vomit inducing piece of shit allowed to exist?
>>
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Why can't more people appreciate how perfect Patricia is?
>>
>>155071473
Patti is pure! pure!
>>
>>155071473

>nerfing patty's tits

Please no.
>>
>>155071473
Disgusting.
>>
>>155070345
But its literally the best club
>>
>>155071848
Snowball has been the best forever.
>>
>>155072041
>t. CG
>>
NEW
>>155072137
>>155072137
>>155072137
>>
It's always fun to see how much I can debuff someone.
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>>155072041
Nice joke man
>>
>>155069627
>tfw jumblr's clubmate and this made me smile
Lock me up
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