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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1162

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Ichitaro returns edition.

■ Current Update (9/7): 「銀翼と黄金の都」Part 3
└ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2-jp-maintenance-and-patch-8312016/

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ http://pso2.jp/players/news/?charid=i_boostevent
├ Google: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Scratches: King of Monsters (until 9/21), Medical Cure Station (until 10/5), Gurhal Collection 1 (until 11/2), Darkness Ruler (until 12/14)
└ http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/

■ Next Update (9/21): 「銀翼と黄金の都」Part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uSKG3O6JOk [Embed]

□ FAQs, Guides (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ http://pastebin.com/CxBP1mEA
├ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ml9MGiN2Ich09mDtR82N1zn62oa1Mp6x6yzRjHrEf8c/ (Last Updated: 7/25/2015)
├ Basic English Patch: http://psumods.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=206
├ Buy ARKS Cash using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa
└ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2es-guide-chip-database/

□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
├ http://pso2.cirnopedia.info/ (EN - OUTDATED AS FUCK)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Main_Page (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Tree: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affix: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage: http://4rt.info/psod/

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Can anyone name the good 11 ES chips?
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Speaking of ES, how do the new rigid units stack up against the reed? Better or worse?
+20 CP & +10 element vs +20 element
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>60 medals
>Only Matoi and 11* Elder Rebellion
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GET ONLINE NHITE AND LET ME KNOW YOU'RE NOT DEAD HOLY FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>154839623
>OH let this shitter in Ship 4.
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>>154840709
you can take him to ship2 if you want
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>>154840709
Wouldn't it make more sense to say "OH let this shitter join the team"

>>154841489
My alt is already on ship2
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>>154837079
A frame: ice arthur
B frame: dragon slayer, rockbear knuckles, mine bunker, ravelle, diesryuu
C frame: wind arthur, lindcray
D frame: strike brute, nasuyoteri, judgement hearts
E frame: nyoibou, arks adminisitrator seraphy if you have a fuckhuge library
Chase: bio beld, avenger, ny seraphy

These are my opinions, and are subject to "your opinioin is shit".

Avenger has been confirmed to essentially be a fire element bio beld with slightly less element increase, and is available for free (albeit complete rng via rewards).
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>>154842495
Where's avenger from?
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>>154842659
It replaced rent aunum as the eq trigger reward chip.

>>154827623
D frame is element weakness, so look at >>154842495. Basically the more categories in your hand at once, the better your damage output.
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Is Hunter Gear Save ring the only good hunter ring? What does it do exactly?
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>>154842982
If you play Sword Hu, Sonic Arrow JG is really good.
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>AIDA wants to translate PSNova
>inb4 it gets finished before the PSP2I translation.
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>>154843274
So how does the Gear Save ring work? I mainly play Partisan Hu, but getting into Sword. I really haven't noticed a change and it's level 7 right now, the ring.
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>>154843724
For Partizan, whenever you use a PA that consumes gear (Like Ass Buster or Slide End), it will consume less gear.
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Worth it to burn a stack of badges to get orbit tmg?
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>>154847383
No
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>>154849051
But i dont know what else to get
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>>154849121
Austere or wait for something else to come out
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Don't disappoint me /pso2g/
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>>154849264
Pointless to get austere now, it's expendable as fuck for the amount of work / resources you have to put in.
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>>154849264
>Austere
is not the difference literally 1-2% and orbit winning due to pp shenanigans?
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>>154849264
No point in Austere when every new 13* is just below it
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Guys
Koishi is shitting up xivg
How do we get rid of them
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>>154850480
It's <1% when you consider orbit leg set bonus aswell. Only reason to get austere tmg is if you're a super tryhard gunner. Even then you'd still get an orbit anyway, but only for PP regen.
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>>154850480
Orbit's pot is actually not too useful on TMG
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>>154851685
By banning everyone in your linkshell because you're the only ones who care.
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>>154836260
>>154836584
the faggot's contract wasn't so short that he'd get the fuck out just yet, after all.
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>>154851685
>Always trying to stir shit with someone who moved games a year ago
I dunno Meido why don't you tell us?
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>>154836260

I haven't played this game in about 3 years.
I originally quit because there seemed to be no way of obtaining top tier gear for F2P plebs and TACOS were so fucking obnoxiously boring it made me want to uninstall every time I ran them.
How F2P friendly is the game nowadays?
Are Rangers still relevant in the metagame? IIRC my character was a Ra/Hu.
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>>154852638
>How F2P friendly is the game nowadays?

Extremely.

But I hope you enjoy going for only 3 13*s at a time.

Premium gets to get 5 with collect files.
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>>154852638
The game's always been really F2P friendly. TACOs are now a weekly affair instead of daily. Rangers are still insanely useful.
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>have a great first run
>restart too fast
>end up in the slow people mpa
Every time.
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Whats a fun class for a new player? I would also like a class that is useful in the current meta
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>>154859127
Fighter or Braver.
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I missed the es discussion, but maybe someone can still help me. I've no idea how to build my loadout, please help (´・ω・`)
Was using partizan for the longest time, but doing eqs is literal pain now
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>>154859357
Is ranger or the mage (forgot the actual name) any fun? They looks like they just click to win..
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So is the orbit tmg from those weapon badges that the level up quest drops?
Guessing from context but there are quite a few currencies in this gayme
All the guns I read about here are never in the cirnopedia and I can't into moon runes.
Is there another way to translate the JP wiki without chrome or copy pasta back and forth to jewgle translate?

>>154859389
>Lisa chip
Me wanty!
Have no idea what I'm doing in that game though, besides the login bonus and quick search
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>>154859389
Shitty phone games belong in the trash, I fucking hate the trend of them becoming popular.
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>>154859802
Firefox and chrome have extensions that translate full pages or text selections in one click.
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>>154860579
Oh didn't realize ff does, thanks friend
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>>154859524
Depends on your playstyle. You can play them all out on a single character so just do that and see what you like.
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>>154860865
oh ok, I didnt know that. Is it like ff14 where I can lvl all classes on a single character or what?
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>>154860953
That's right. You can change classes at any time at the class counter.
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>>154859524
>They looks like they just click to win..
You just described videogames.
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>>154861197
>You just described videogames in nigger speak
ftfy
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>>154861389
Please no racist slurs, this is a family friendly website.
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>>154859389
>yamigarasu
>judgement hearts
>ER10
>tmg booster
You fucked up pretty heavily though, light element tmg booster was available last week.
yami is C, judgement is D (but worthless on non lighting obv), boosters are A.

your loadout for this eq should be yami/tmg booster/ER10+ (max ability from lilipans) with imperial pick and either hunewearl or sylph malinka, depending on what you have available for friends.

>using partisan
I see you're a masochist, orchestra/illusion rave/immortal dove are better by virtue of weapon, and ER is just flat out the king, so you shouldn't be using anything but that since you have it.

>>154860468
Shows the state of the main game doesn't it?
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>>154863170
not that guy, but I only managed ability lvl 3 for the tmg booster. is that still usable?
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>>154862049
fake and gay
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>>154863662
Think about what you're asking for a moment: tmg, which hits 4 times per normal attack. I only ever bother with level 1 for boosters; level is basically irrelevant for the good weapons, and nobody but fools use the shit weapons.
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>>154863170
I only scratched ER, Illusion rave, orchestra and immortal dove very recently, couple of weeks ago at most. I really didn't have a choice of PAs, not to mention I only had Hu leveled in main game. Imperial Pick had more damage if I used a partizan so I just rolled with it.
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>>154864736
I managed to pull ER3 on all of my characters now, but whenever new white boosters come around, I always try to obtain them on my characters regardless of if I will ever actually use them because you never know how the PA meta will change. That and for free library spot fills, which are very few and far between for me now what with my entire library being released on multiple characters.
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>>154862049
YOU"D KNOW IT IF YOU READ THE RULES
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>>154863813
I wish, I got a 3 dayer on /vg/ once for saying nigger. Mods are shit.
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Does race make a difference in gameplay?
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>>154869065
Nigger faggot gay retard you're a wetback and a liar playing a fucking chink game.
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>>154870012
Not really. There are some minor statistical differences between them all, but they all play the same, so race is mostly an appearance thing.
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>>154870012
There are no gameplay differences, but races/genders get minimal stat differences, so if you want to min max you should check which gets more at the end of their level cap.

Also casts and caseals get to wear robot parts while humans/newmans/dewmans can wear certain gender specific costumes that casts/caseals cannot.
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>>154870060
Yeah, I did some shit like that and some little faggot probably reported me.
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>>154843428
I talked with coldbird a few years back about it since we were working on something together. He said that it was literally 99% done but something happened to and all of his work was gone. He promptly left afterwards because he didn't want to go through all of that work all over again.

I asked him if he would ever give anyone the info to do it themselves and he said no. To be honest, I don't think he had anything to begin with. He never showed anything.
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How should I be affixing my wands? Should I be going for both power and technique or technique and spirita?
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>>154870012
it used to be way back in episode 2/3 i think. but now its irrelevant
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>>154872258
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Where can I find NPC sliders? I'm thinking of making a Phaleg when they release her parts next week.
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I remember hearing something about a Color Change Pass trick before. How does this work?
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>>154875582
This is from a nice guy at PSO-W.
http://www52.zippyshare.com/v/IdbGQobe/file.html

>>154876041
It got patched. But IIRC it was:
>put on costume you want palette swapped
>go to fashion editing and change body paint
>quickly swap to a different costume of a different colour with the same menu
>quickly change body paint back
>close the fashion editing menu
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>>154867360
But I did know? I was just reminding the other poster of the rules, no need to shout at me.
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>>154873756
hi sign
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I flew the highest again. Admittedly, most of the group was in hibernation this time.
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>>154876779
Oh, that was the Color Pass trick too? I noticed it didn't work anymore out of the Este Shop recently. Thanks.
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>>154878264
Would be nice if rare enemy trial would actually appear instead of hordes of ayy lmaos
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>>154876779
that was was
>put on costume whose colors you want to see swapped in the fashion menu
>put on the one whose colors you want
>quickly go from that to changing bodypaint
>quickly exit the menu
it sucks that it got patched. I liked being able to see things in the right colors for my characters even when they don't let you recolor them.

probably patched it because it was calling attention to the fact that sega restricts recoloring of various things for no technical reason.

>>154876041
the only trick I know of (rattled off above) didn't involve passes or the este, so...
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>>154878986
it'd be nice if they didn't dilute the e-trial pool with trainhydra, tanks, knightgear, and cougar, either.
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>>154879106
It still actually works, but only for things that restrict your inventory (setting a friend partner, going to a challenge block).
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>>154880540
I don't like any of the episode 4 characters beside the voyeur loving robutt.
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>when hotline bling starts playing during work
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>>154881021
I like Xiera, >>154881098, and Phaleg.
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>>154839094
>ONLY 11* elder rebellion
?
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>>154884846
It's wind.
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>>154884972
You say that like the element of your PA is super important and a make or break case for your loadout, in which case, you have bigger troubles than that.

I only use EREX on the character who has it because they don't have a 12* so I have extra cost left over.
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>Riding quest scores are basically even more RNG in the form of random e-trials.
Meh.
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>>154887385
well, the better you're doing, the more opportunities for e-trials you'll have

if you're clearing them slowly you won't have as many chances
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>>154881021
the fact it took this long for episode 4 to get even remotely interesting story board wise really says something
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>>154887916
plenty of opportunity to build off the existing characters but noooooooooo, lets stick you in a freezer for 2 years and drastically change everything.
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>>154882907
hey, you get your sex change yet?
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>>154887385
i think having a really good mpa makes the worse of runs good
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In ES do you guys prefer partner cards that use the best possible chips (Like Strike Brute, Nasuyoteri, Yamigarasu, etc) or the chips that boost time/double drop for the specific raid?
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>>154887916
that it's basically like every other episode where literally nothing happens until the chapter before the climax
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>>154889563
While I preference chips that aren't E cagetory (ie. strike brute/equiv, yamigarasu, high tier chase chips), I'd still rather a 12* over the eq chip. Almost always, the EQ chip is trash and actually a liability to anybody who's using it. This was especially the case with the noire draal eq chip, which was completely worthless.
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Are there any strategies to filling up the bio weapon bars on the Vegas collect sheets? No one does free Vegas anymore, and riding quests spit out all the other bosses more often than Illusia.
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>>154891973
no, have fun killing 80+ vegas illusia just for 1 bio weapon even with 250% up
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>>154889563
Double drop doesn't work if it's a friend card so it's better to go with your best chip
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>>154893383
Time to give up on that Titan Stinger I guess.
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dead
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game
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why is this game so shit? does anyone even play anymore?
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>>154894512
>>154894626
play es, it's what all the cool kids are doing now.
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>>154891973
correct me if I'm wrong but don't the different quests have different occurrence rates for things

I could have sworn there was one where I was getting nothing but illusias and another that was nothing but train ghidorans
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>>154895773
turning nc something something?
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kink you knee moo hass say
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>>154896313
Annette in lobby when? Give us her clothes.
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>>154894778
I imagine interest has spiked because the current week is weaponoid carnival. Time to spend your hoard.
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>>154900937
The carnival is shit actually. I was heavily let down by my pulls.
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>>154901426
Could be better.
I didn't get a lot of bad scratches but I've got most of the weaponoid chips from that scratch now so I'm saving mine for the next one.
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>>154902940
I got mountains and mountains of bad scratches. Admittedly, my average library size is around 700 if I include chips that I have but aren't released yet, so my options for fresh chips are quite slim pickings. But either way, the chip selection from this event is not good enough to warrant me scratching the remaining 1493 medals I have.
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>>154898808
B-but then she would be naked!
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>>154901426
I liked my pulls mostly. The others were kind of garbage though.
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Is the carnival worth it if I already have the momoji and imperial pick
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>>154905717
It has a couple of other good chips (yami, mine bunker), but ultimately no. it has no strike brute or psychowand, which limits it's "I must scratch for that" factor. I'd use all of my medals if those two (and rockbear knuckle, I guess) were in the scratch along with the rest of the trash.
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>>154905904
I have wind arthur can I ignore yami?
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>>154906023
It's weaker than I thought it was, but yes, since its cost will allow it to fit in a wider variety of loadouts.
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>>154907915
i prefer this version rather than the old
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I hate es ringada.
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>>154910305
I hate PSO2 and PSO2es Ringada equally.
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>>154910709
I hate PSO2 and PSO2es equally.
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>>154911904
Does that mean your level of hate for them is both zero?
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>All the Symphalinca comes in handy against Nova.
based sega desu.
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when should I start bonus scratching for SH triggers lads.
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>>154912498
The sooner the better.
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What else was there to do this update besides ride quests?
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>>154912885
seasonal eq
COs for welfare 13*
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>>154912498
It doesn't matter, as long as it isn't after the eq window is over (ie. after tuesday).

This eq is fucking dead though, for a cpi[;e of reasons it seems: people hate ringada, it's not a ranking.

I've gotten 2 trigger requests today and that's it.
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>>154913062
So basically nothing.
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>>154913150
Tokyo TA next week
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>>154913150
Even if it were something, it would still be nothing.
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such an alive game
such a thriving community
jk game is dead lmao
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>>154913108
>it's not a ranking.
how come.
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Save your triggers for announced raid dates, when people know that the raid is active.
Can anyone explain why half the weeks Ringa EQs for ES are a game of "GUESS WHEN THE BOSS IS ACTIVE LOL!" ?
That seems really dumb.
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>>154913331
Sega, in their infinite wisdom, decided that they didn't want people investing too much time into es and burning themselves (and in turn their wallets) out, so every second eq is unranked.

>>154913409
If by 'half' you mean '2 of them', then it's because sega only fully schedule eqs when the stars align. There's no real reason to save triggers because it results in one thing that annoys everybody involved: everybody using their triggers at the same time, resulting in a whole bunch of requests at once that you can only end up participating in one of.
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>4 slot Ringa unit with Extreceptor is worth 9 mil.
what.
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>>154913898
Because it's a 100% upslot for any Flict.
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>11,760,000 Meseta for two Ginnegam triggers
ahaha, what
I don't think anyone is that desperate for Saikis are they
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>>154914379
The treasure shop is grossly overpriced, yes. But make sure you check it if there's a FUN scratch item or music disc you want.
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>>154914534
50,000 for some pickaxes is one thing, but nearly 12 million for those triggers is just on a whole other level, if you ask me.
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>>154914686
Sega have no idea when it comes to consistency on pricing.

Here's some examples:
2 excubes = 1,000 fun
6 excubes = 250% RDR booster
10,000 fun = 250% RDR booster
400 fun = grind risk reduction +1
6 photon spheres = grind risk reduction +1
9 AC items = 500cc
500cc = 1 extreme pass
6 excubes = 1 extreme pass
1 excube = 400,000 meseta
1 AC item = ~105,000 meseta
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>>154914534
>fashion items are 800k.
>people selling them for 1 mil on Shop.
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>TFW Last ES trigger of the day grants an avenger
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>>154915138
It's not really the consistency of it that's an issue, it's how ridiculously high the price is. Ginnegam triggers are undoubtedly high value items but there's no justifying spending around six million meseta for each.
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>>154915542
I hate you, and demand screenshot proof so that I can hate you more.
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>>154916176
>>154898808
>>154904631

fuck away from my PERFECT ANNETTO
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>TD1 remake
>with every type of mob and boss available in game thrown in
>and wall
This gonna be fun and fucked at the same time. Hoping for AIS support.
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>>154916841
>>154916176
I want to rape this newearl
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>>154917606
I hope the authorities castrate you
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>>154917492
>Hoping for AIS support
Please no, AIS makes everything dumber.
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>>154917649
>>154916841
All newearls are huge sluts.
She sells herself for 3 photon drops.
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>>154917965
Newearls are made for rape after all
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>>154918030
It's not rape if you pay her.
3 photon drops is too expensive, though. All I can make is 1 and 3 grinders.
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what's the most efficient way to grind weaponoid affection?
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Am I missing out on anything by not playing ES? I got it just so I can buy some AC, but it seems like there's a lot of connected stuff between the games.
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>>154923481
Not really. The current players flood the market with cheap Soul Receptors, and Extreceptors with worthwhile slots are so ridiculously rare that it's not worth playing for.
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>>154836260

Reinstalling this game after 2-3 years.
Is the Tweaker from Arks Layer still the recommended option for people who can't into moonrunes?
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>>154924603
More or less.
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>>154924603
install the game vanilla first and make sure it's working before you decide to dick around with patches and the tweaker
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>>154923481
Some nice goodies, like a free 100 storage, 1 SG each day, the rare chance to get ridiculously valuable, free excubes/13*s/gathering mats from quick search every day. Might as well play if you can.
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>>154924932
>>154924997
I'm having the Tweaker download and install the game as we speak so I guess it's too late for that.
Gonna launch the game before applying any patches though.
Thanks.
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>>154915138
I fucking wish I could turn an excube in 400k
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>SPECIAL EGG?
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Is there a way to change my characters body/face later in the game or am I stuck with what I have?
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>>154926345
You need a salon pass to change body/face shape, but they're given out fairly regularly as login rewards.
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>>154925910
>13*
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>>154925167
do filechecks, just in case. I forget if the tweaker uses the torrent or not. the torrent isn't always totally up to date. titlescreen should say... 4.0402.1 on an up to date client.
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are there any classes/combinations i should avoid as a tier whore? do tier lists for this game even exist?
i know there's no pvp but i want to make sure i'm playing something that's all around strong and useful. katana bravers look fun but i heard katanas are garbage weapons? are there any other strong melee builds?
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>>154928356
Honestly try all weapons and see what you like best yourself
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>>154928356
Don't use Jet Boots they're shit and everyone will hate you for it. Literally anything is better than boots
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>>154928356
Don't use BO or SU as main or sub class
Suddenly you're good
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>>154917492
I can't fathom why anyone wants to have to deal with gigantic clusterfucks. and anything with shit like UQ bosses is unquestionably a clusterfuck.
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>>154929413
>>154929692
>lying
>for the sake of MUH MEEMZ
it's gunner that's shit. boots are mediocre, but they spam zanverse all over the place which is good for everyone. they're still better than DBs, in part because you don't have to waste a fuckton of money making a rainbow set to actually use elemental stance for anything.
sum'ner is stupidly easy and stupidly cheap to be effective with.
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>>154931114
>they spam zanverse all over the place which is good for everyone
Except for everyone that actually have a zanverse, you dipshit.
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>>154931114
...well actually. I should be more indepth there;
DBs -can- be fairly effective, but mostly by spamming photon blade fever, or derpmobbing weak shit with disperse shrike. but they're meant to go with break stance, which doesn't help most of the time. breakstance DB bonus doesn't give enough of the stance's effect on non-breakables to really solve problems; elemental stance is weaker but better in that it doesn't need an uncommon condition to work, but to use it with anything but JBs or wands with the ele change ring (which sucks because it changes on zondeel and zanverse which you need to be using which means wasting time fixing your element etc) you have to go through the expense of upgrading and affixing six of whatever you want to use instead of just one, while boots change element whenever you charge a tech besides res/anti/shift/deban, so you never, ever need more than one of any jetboot to use elemental stance to it's fullest. considering that grinding and affixing 13*s is a multimillion meseta moneysink... if you're not whaling and scamming people on the market, it's just too much of an expense to be justified as something you end up having to do six times whenever sega spits out a new weapon that's actually better than what you had.
nobody outside /pso2g/ has an issue with boots, and hardly anyone outside /pso2g/ gives a fuck about sum'ner anymore, either.

meanwhile gunners...
>need to chain for any real damage
>ranged damage whose game is all about moving and thus doesn't work with standing snipe's loltastic bonus
>chain has a cooldown meaning your damage is always in short bursts
>TMGs suck and their PAs are weak
>tissuepaper class meant to fight at contact range
the list goes on.
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What's better between Ray Twin Daggers, Dagger of Seraphi, and Dagger of Seraphi-NT?
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>>154931230
If you haven't placed your Zanverse by the time a Bo gets in range to spin you have failed as a Te.
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>>154932119
Bouncer only spin 24/7 dealing no damage, meanwhile I deal damage with my techs and have a zanverse to use when needed.
>b-b-b-b-b-b-ut it's a MEEEEEMMMMM
Bouncer is a meme and it should die.
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>>154928356
if you're a tier whore, you go FOTE. FOTE is overpowered as fuck.

>>154931230
>implying every MPA has a sane tector in it
TE are an endangered species, anon.
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>>154931594
>need to chain for any real damage
More like by far the highest burst damage in the game on a short CD. Not even compounds can be compared to CT.
>ranged damage whose game is all about moving and thus doesn't work with standing snipe's loltastic bonus
aerial satellite aim doesn't move you and is what you use 90% of the time (the 10% is IF0 on chain finish).
>chain has a cooldown meaning your damage is always in short bursts
The cooldown is extremely short, especially considering how broken the skill is.
>TMGs suck and their PAs are weak
Shooting PAs are generally weaker compared to others because the Ranged multipliers are considerably higher (compare Ra sub to Hu sub for instance).
>tissuepaper class meant to fight at contact range
It's very easy to not get hit with sroll and DA.

You have a point though, a lot of X/Gu combos are even stronger, but that doesn't stop Gu/Ra from being stronger for bossing than anything not /Gu, assuming you have a proper Gu party of course.
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>>154895773
From left to right
Kill
Kill
Kill whatever the fuck it is
Kill then fuck
Marry and fuck forever
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>>154934306
TL
I like pasta too
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Am I right in assuming that Katana Br/Hu is a decent all-rounder?
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>>154935631
It's kinda bad on bosses, especially magatsu.
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>>154935781
It's fine on magatsu since guren came out
Overall it's fine, but not the highest damage
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>>154935781
>>154935841
May I know what classes deal the most damage? I now know that Fo/Te is one of them but it looks fairly boring to play.
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>>154935985
Honestly all the classes do fine right now except maybe RA or GU against some enemies
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>>154935985
>May I know what classes deal the most damage?
Br/Gu, possibly Su/Gu when you can get a 6 stack maron.
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Did PSO2 take a dip in popularity over the last 2 years?
The general seems pretty deserted, especially after filtering that rappy guy.
How is the game doing in Japan?
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Yamato just dropped a 13* talis for me. What element do I untek it as?
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>>154940023
thunder
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>>154939542
Episode 4 killed it
Not to mention the influx of desperate cringworthy cancer fully grown men pretending to be lewd little girl erp'ers and ffxiv cat girls

This general became overrun by actual gay and transvestite queers
Why would anyone come here

This is what you get when you pander to lolicon peados who want to play barbie girls online

>oh wow nice necklace~
>i luv that dress :3
>oh u r so kawaiii~~ <3

Pathetic.

Numbers have dropped off in Japan also
The server merge soon will be the proof.

>not liking rappy guy
Faggot newfag
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>>154940474
Is there a guild or group that's free from faggot ERP'ers?
How much will I be gimping myself by playing alone and just pugging everything?
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>>154940226
Why? It's Quotz, right?
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>>154940895
You realize that the guy you're responding to doesn't even play the game, right?
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>>154940964
thunder mostly works better with talises so why not turn it into that unless you allready have something similar
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>>154939542
This general is dead but the game is doing fine
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>>154940895
>>154940895
How's your Japanese language skill?
And no, the game is basically designed to be able to play solo without talking to anyone for the socially awkward shutins of Japan
Expect a variety of experiences when pugging
You should be able to carry a group of 11 if you play rappy
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>>154941528
I have a friend who's almost fluent but I can't read or speak Japanese at all so joining a Japanese guild is out of the question.
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>tfw you go to do challenge mode and a jap joins your party and starts talking to you
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Why is shinguru so offputting? I find skengs more tolerable than them
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Post your pretty caseal and I shall reward you
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>>154935631
Short answer; yes although hybrid is known for being better.
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>>154945241
What's my prize, man
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>bloom
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>>154946715
by hybrid you mean a katana/bullet bow combo?
do i sacrifice anything major by running a hybrid spec like that?
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>>154947301
Get on discord fagtron
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>>154947572
Yes, you'll be using a bow for the Banish + 2x Kamikaze combo. You lose out on some katana gear stuff and flat attack but honestly it's not that much. You lose out on the Katana gear boost.

http://pso2-skill.pwnedgalaxy.net/skillcalc.php?11eNbxIobxImbxImbxImbxImbxImbxIobxImbxIobubOiA6dOdBIbkAIkI2fdCINfqnIdJksNI20000006doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000Io00000000ioIn00000000doIo4NfdArdrFfrAHSGKIoI200000fdoIb0000000lo000000j

This is what I have for my hybrid tree. Rapid shoot is nice because of the increased damage and reduced charge time, you keep everything for Katana combat and you have the most important parts of Average stance. Quickmate is there so you don't have to pick up Automate on your hunter tree. Snatch step skills are too good to leave. As for the Hunter tree; Fury stance stuff is covered, Massive hunter fixes the problem of getting hit and fucking up your banish combo (I found it to be incredibly useful for Anga farming), Warcry is good for when you're doing a TD4 or something. You'll have one point left in the tree so you can pick up healing guard if you want it or put it into Never Give Up for 7 seconds of invincibility if Iron Skill procs. I go with HG since Iron skill has a chance at procing while HG is whenever you perform a just guard / parry / whatever.

Sorry for the info dump.
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>>154925864
Would be nice, wouldn't it?
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>>154949363
thanks, definitely considering going with this build.
is the bullet bow only used against bosses? i imagine katana works a lot better for mobbing. also, is the build beginner friendly in terms of required gear and combos?
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why do i still waste tab space with this pointless thread
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god I feel like I do no damage as GU wtf is this.
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why
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What stops sega from making a semi-proper game like it was in ep2 and not a garbage erp trash for otaku that it is now?
Dont say money, otaku peados dont play the game anyway, they could just keep making loli costumes without ruining the game itself
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>>154954471
yeah, but why bother?
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>>154954579
Why bother making pso2 at all?
Why bother calling it so?
There is some sort of twisted irony in keeping this body dragged around up to a point where even PSU looks leagues ahead in all possible aspects.
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>>154954471
because they're fucking retarded and they don't know what to do with the game

that's the answer you were looking for and it's the correct one
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>>154954191

>>154922670
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>>154954809
They weren't retarded at the start though.
It doesn't make sense. Why now? Why not at ep2 or ep1, or PSO?
What has changed?
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>>154954471
What about EP2 made it earn your respect?
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>>154955232
The game is probably being handled by different people now.
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>>154954471
EP2 was the lowest point of the actual "game" part in the game's entire history. It took EP3's skill tree overhauls and rebalancing to fix that hot mess of shit.

>>154955232
>What has changed?
Nothing. The biggest problem is that they keep making the same mistakes repeatedly and have been doing so for the last fifteen years.
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>>154955427
Director and producer are exact same people as before. director responsible for 4th episode itself is the same as for ep2, then whats the problem?

>>154955345
Good question.
What about PSO2 that made people expect anything? Surely if it was originally trash, why people keep chimping out at every move that doesn't make it gold?
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>>154955232
data and analytics you fucking mong
by that time they could clearly see that every 2 weeks they could roll out some shitty dresses and all the morons ploughed the AC to get the cutest new /la for their little cat girl

the focus of a business is to make money so they did more of it

the playerbase is to blame

no little girl dressup faggots would have meant labour being spent on other content

what else can they bang out every 2 weeks to make money though?
character customisation is a known successful f2p model

>>154955823
rabbles
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Hey faggots how long till balance patch
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>>154955924
they can't balance shit all, why bother
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>>154955767
Moons are bad at innovative thought.
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>>154954736
>PSU looks leagues ahead in all possible aspects
PSU featured the entire game's assets in an offline single player mode and had the audacity to release it piecemeal over the course of the following year into its online mode, charging a mandatory monthly fee for it during this time (barring the extra two month extended "beta" period).

I love the game but this was just fucking inexcusable and literally nothing in PSO2 even comes close, except maybe the HDD burst, and that was long before episode 4.
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>>154955859
>the playerbase is to blame
But no one can play this game to save their lives, not even in this thread or anywhere else.
Should they aim at literal 2-3 normal players in the world?
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>>154947301
>Post your pretty caseal and I shall reward you

>Posts costume wearing titty monster

GET THE FUCK
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>>154956136
offline mode is superior to online DRM shit
PSo2 would be infinitely better just for the expense
netplay and custom games
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>>154955859
How does dressup affect the rest of the game? You realize the people making costumes aren't the ones making the actual game content, right?
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>>154956515
Imagine that resources and manpower wasted on dressup and layering wear could be actually employed on gameplay mechanics and new meaningful content. Not bad HUH?
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>>154956392
PSU also required GameGuard to play offline mode, so it wasn't truly "offline", unless of course you modded it out.
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>>154956515
>costumes are easier to make and are more lucrative
>more focus is put into costumes and cosmetics instead of actual content
>people that make new content are shitcanned or tasked with making cute dresses instead
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Dress-Up > "Gameplay"

As long as its done RIGHT
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>>154956628
>move costume artists over to gameplay design
>trust me guys this will just work
I hope you aren't serious
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>>154956765
that person doesn't bother with this trashole place
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>>154956685
Costumes are put out more frequently and regularly, of course, but that's a relatively simpler task.

"Actual content" has been released at more or less the same pace for years now. This hasn't really changed.

Three fields, two raid EQs, and random gameplay systems, every year like clockwork.
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>>154956864
>Downsize the number of people making 3D panties
>Use the available funds to hire actual content creators
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>>154952947
Yes, it's for bossing. Bow is pretty bad for mobbing. Katana is decent at it, pretty nice if you know what you're doing. The build is somewhat beginner friendly since you can go with a red bow and get it crafted (you'll need photon boosters to unlock the potential, which requires challenge miles from challenge mode to buy from the NPC. CM2 is pretty easy and can nab you a booster worth of points each run, especially if it's on a boost). I'm up for grinding some CM2 since I could go for more boosters.

As for combos; you'll want to practice use of the bow combo. There's some stuff for Katana that takes practice such as Hatou for its sweet spot, Guren dashing and if you're up for it; the Sakura + Gekka combo.

>>154954191
>Not 100%
Asking for that failure m8
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>>154957285
Throwing more people at something else isn't necessarily going to make things better or more efficient. That's just not how people work.
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>>154957285
There is literally noone hired for doing this, there is nothing to 'downsize' here. Panties are just a texture swap that some artist made in 5 minutes tops. You fags seriously overestimate how much goes into making cosmetics.
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>>154956245
exactly, its free to play, it doesnt matter if they can beat a boss or not
as long as they buy AC and dressup to be the cute little girl the game is being played as the devs want them to

>>154956515
pleb
if no ones buys AC to get cute dresses the team will obviously go a different path to make money, in an alternate reality they might even focus on making a better game!
the core idea and engine of this is fucking wasted on the PSO franchise
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>>154955767
>guy ruining shit in ep4 is the same guy as ruined shit in ep2
>what's the problem
even with the context of the other idiot, jesus christ what a retard.
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>>154956864
>thinking artists have a word in design
I hope you're not serious
We're talking about manpower, not how many more people will start thinking up ideas.
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>>154957749
>You fags seriously overestimate how much goes into making cosmetics
You're on point about the panties, but still, they do have people working exclusively on costumes. Including collab costumes.
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>>154958087
Did you mean to reply to the post preceding it? Because that one is making exactly the same point you are.
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>>154955767
Episode 4 has different directors, they didn't go back to KMR
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>only deleting some of the posts
Mods and jannys are as dumb as sega, let alone they cant be bothered to realize someone is botting when it shouldn't be possible
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Do I upgrade s-atk or t-atk for wand E change ring as te/br?
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>>154958465
either is probably fine
it's not a big bonus either way
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>>154957795
If only this game costed 80$ minimum, that would really attract elite pro button pushers such as myself.

>>154957749
whew we finally reached conclusion that they just won't do more stuff that you want. Its calculated to keep you on a brink of getting insane from boredom, and then trickle a small variation (upcoming TD with "new" monsters) to make you last year or two more.

The next step is stopping expecting impossible.

>>154957940
yeah, theres no literal difference between ep2 and ep4
I really loved a few gimmick mechanics such as fishing for 1 minute boost to get ores for one useless skill. Or class with a weapon that is a literal fucking camo, but you can put a camo over it anyway.

Fucking retard.
Retard.
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>>154958527
The system is dependent on reports and hardly anyone is autistic enough to report every single thing

They'll start with the reported ones and then move on to the rest if/when they see a pattern emerge
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>>154958465
t-atk is always better
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>>154956392
>>154956651
and don't forget that ep3 can't be played offline, for little actual reason; it was the "carrot on a stick" used to get people to go online with the game.
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>>154958449
Kimura is a game director.
We're talking about particular episode supervisors.

>>154958253
If you seriously think they're short on high-paid idea guys instead of actual workers that implement it, then you have less idea then its even possible.
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>>154958781
There were new-ish fields and bosses associated with the episode 3 story which were a bigger thing than the actual story, which, even if you liked it, didn't amount to much "content" overall on its own

Also you can't play episode 2 offline either unless you have the standalone PS2 version
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>>154958786
>If you seriously think
I don't understand why you think I'm disagreeing with you. I'm saying exactly the opposite thing. Did the sarcasm in that post not register?
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>>154958591
the main difference is having executives fail to understand why late ep3's endless barrage of collab scratches wasn't selling and pushing two morons into coming up with new ways to monetize the game instead of saying "figure out what scratch stuff was selling and do more of that", like intelligent people would do in response to lackluster scratch sales.

also, there ARE legit valuable skills on some of those rings, retard. the fact their tied to a gigantic failure to imitate monhun has more to do with the aforementioned executive "MOAR MONETIZATION" push. that and paranoia about character-side powercreep while they totally fail to address pre-existing problems.
>FOTE being broken as fuck since the game started, one way or another
>GU still being shit due to the overnerfing in response to it's brokenness during ep2
>RA's entire playstyle being rendered increasingly impossible to effectively maintain in relevant content since SH was implemented, even moreso in recent raids where "stand still and aim" is asking for death and WB has been gimped to try to fix the next two proble,s
>modifiers modifying eachother instead of being added together and applied as one
>affixing having absolutely no downside to slapping 150+ extra attack on each item you wear, feeding into the modifier multiplication stack problem
>content having to be slanted around the previous two problems, so that nobody can actually expect any build that doesn't hinge on that shit to ever be good for anything
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No shit, the character creator is one of the things they tote as a major feature. Of course cosmetics are a major focus.
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>>154959012
funny, I snagged the PC version of AoTI long after the english servers were canned and I still played ep2 just fine.
the new-ish fields and bosses were just there to give you a slightly different-flavored grinding experience while getting leveled and geared enough for the ep3 story content.
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>>154959606
>FoTe is OP
>The class that on it's own makes designing challenging content impossible (Gu, or rather CT) is too weak
Have you ever looked at a parser for pretty much any boss eq?
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>>154959865
woah this one is lewd
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>>154959767
>the new-ish fields and bosses were just there to give you a slightly different-flavored grinding experience while getting leveled and geared enough for the ep3 story content.
No? Main story missions scaled with your level. You leveled and geared was what the other stuff was for, of course, but that was an ends in and of itself.
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MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs MORE TDs
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>>154959935
obviously got stuck in the sand when he was out gathering you pleb
the other rappy is helping him out
childish smut doesnt apply to created in his own image of God himself

look its you stupid lilipan in the box
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>>154959606
Nice fanfiction.
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>>154960340
>reality is fanfiction
maybe if you actually played the game you'd know some of this shit, faglord.

>>154959869
I'm busy with reality. you know, where FOTEs evaporate shit long before a GU gets to accomplish anything.
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>Fo/Te is OP
>Only 10% main FO
Explain this
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>>154961257
>I'm busy with reality. you know, where FOTEs evaporate shit long before a GU gets to accomplish anything.
Yeah, those Fo/Te killing PD and magatsu in seconds. Oh wait, that's chain trigger.
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>>154961614
It's boring to play while melee is more fun.
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>>154961614
expensive class
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>>154961257
>reality is whatever bullshit I make up in my head and voice without a single fact supporting it
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>>154959984
they "scaled". with settings notably higher than in offline mode so you needed to be higher leveled and have better gear if you expected to actually complete them. it's not like PSO2's earlier story content where the scaling actually kept things more-or-less in line with the level of power you were predicted to have by the time they were implemented. y'know, like back when tundra/tunnels/f.continent didn't have normal mode because sega figured everyone was leveled to that point at the time, when 30 was a long grind instead of a point you can reach by farting at an NPC.
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>>154961614
98% of players don't give a shit about efficiency
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>>154961986
You know technically you can both be right

Force is great at just deleting hordes of enemies in something like Mining Base Defense while Gunner will shine more against powerful bosses

Although I guess that would still make him wrong about the class being "weak"
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>>154962057
>with settings notably higher than in offline mode so you needed to be higher leveled and have better gear if you expected to actually complete them.
Or you could just choose the lowest difficulty and breeze through it
Unless that wasn't a thing in the offline version? I don't know, maybe it wasn't.
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>>154961731
top. fuckin'. kek. every "lol I solo teh raidboss" video I've ever seen with a gunner has involved large periods of time being cut out (visible via jumps in the EQ timer) while they dick around for tens of minutes. you really need to stop trying to lie, you're bad at it.

>>154961986
>the truth is bullshit because it doesn't fit my memes!
bitch, please.

if you faggots took a break from ERPing and circlejerking in here about whose character you want to fuck, you might actually know what's going on anywhere besides the lobby on shit 2.
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>>154962538
Good way of showing you never ran in an organised MPA I guess. No, I'm not talking solo, noone gives a shit about that and CT obviously isn't that good without a proper party anyway. Literally every organised MPA that's half way decent heavily uses gunners for Boss eqs, primarily Gunner subs though.
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>>154963027
I suspect he's not seriously arguing about this in the first place for some reason
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ruppy pls
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>Bouncer is negative damage
>95% main BO
Explain this.
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>>154965753
>Explain this
You are verifiably wrong on both counts
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What do you guys want to see in the upcoming Persona 5 collab?
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>>154966842
nothing, I don't play SHIT games
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>>154966842
Something actually worthwhile.
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Discuss
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i love filters
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how do I unlock the special unit extension recipes?
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>>154974848
You need to unlock certain achievements by doing crafts, so check the crafting achievements to see which ones you need and what you need to do to unlock them.
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>>154954191
how did you make stigma 100%? Guranz soul boosted it?
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>>154975993
Ultimate souls boost Stigma by 20%, so three Stigma = 50%, +20% from soul = 70%, +30% booster = 100%.
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Well, I'm 71/50 on my Su/Gu now.

So... do I basically just, uhh, be a useless shit on XH EQs and pray to God 13* Torim/Maron eggs drop? I feel like half the people I check have highly affixed Saikis and beefed up Austeres and all I have is badly affixed Hiei with a 12* Torim that does like 10-15k on weak spots with Torim Stab (when everyone else does that normally), a 10* Seri I spam at mobs, and some 10* Marons that I [attempt to] explode on Chain Triggers. Then again, the only way I'm actually going to get more powerful is better drops, and better drops require me to stay in XH...

I guess I should beef up the Gwanman units I have, considering getting Saiki seems unrealistic at this point in time.

As for 10* or 11* weapons - are the only ones worth keeping the NT ones, assuming shit affixes? I guess most of these units are useless too, huh?

It might have helped to not do everything solo. I feel like I'm being inefficient somewhere.
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>>154977407
I'd work on getting that sub up to 70 first and foremost, dumping COs and tickets into it, and actually playing it if you have to.
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>>154977407
You are playing SU horribly wrong.
SU/GU is used for Extreme quest (Specifically Solo version). SU/BR is what you should play, maybe SU/BR for TDs, dont forget to focus on a single stat like r-attack.
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>>154977725

True. There are skill points floating around I could get. I wish I knew some fucks I could abuse VHAQs with for quick EXP, heh.

>>154977812

I guess it's not the best subclass for Su in my case, but is it really "horribly" wrong? Attack PP Restorate feels huge and lets me spam Torim or Sari a lot more often, Perfect Keeper is easy to maintain albeit it can be weird with Alter Ego, and Chain Trigger can lead to some silly burst numbers on big enemies.

I was actually planning to play Gu from the get go, but decided to try out Su and figured it wasn't so bad. I was going to try to gear up with Su before I switched over to Gu, especially since Gu seemed harder to get up to speed.

And yeah, I'm focusing purely on R-ATK for that specific reason.
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>>154979549
>Perfect Keeper is easy to maintain
Perfect Keeper is tied to the HP of your pet.
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>>154979757
>Pet getting hit
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>>154979549
>Perfect keeper
>Maron
Do you even know how it's personality works
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>Shitlith's dps is even worse

YOU LITERALLY CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP LMAOOOOOO
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>>154981803
man i feel like a shitter after this


never touching Summoner again
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>lilith's dps is this garbage

kek
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>>154982076
problem is with you, not summoner
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>>154982607
well yes, problem was i haven't played summoner in a long time and i don't even know how the new pet works

so yeah, i am the problem.
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>>154981803
I'm guessing thats some br/gu chainbanish belly?
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>>154984279
Who?
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>>154984424
the 4 mil BA hits
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>>154984279
That's too low to be a brgu
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>>154979757
>>154981118

That... makes sense, actually. Good to know. I was thinking it possibly worked that way, but wasn't sure myself.

Then again, Torim seems to like being either at full health or zero, Sari doesn't get hit all too much and is healed easily, and yeah, Maron doesn't really work with it. It still does something most of the time at least.

I haven't received any high level eggs for the other pets yet, but are there other ones I should start grinding up, too?
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>>154984549
So what's considered acceptable damage for BA at Magatsu?
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>>154986714
50,000,000 per second.
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>>154986714
6m and up is acceptable
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Fuck yeah! I got one.
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>>154988595
How?
I usually hit around 5,5m and rarely goes above 6m with 100 chains, 150 affix units and orbit bow.
Also I spam master shot for BAing belly, am I doing it wrong?
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>>154989213
gay
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How do I make my character thicc?
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>>154989532
Haven't really played Br/Gu on magatsu in almost a year, but I was doing 5.5m with ideal bow and 110 atk units
I kinda just made up the number there cause I didn't remember exactly, master shoot is how you do it
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>triple downslot
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>>154989668
This guy is pretty chill, he has no issues with shooting things, people included. Also voiced by a guy who mostly has terrible roles but can do a badass character voice when required.
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>>154993095
So he's Risa?
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>>154993784
>hanakana
>yuuki kaji
I guess, maybe.
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>>154994754
>yuuki kaji
disgusting
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>>154995452
He has his moments of badass, but is mostly bad.
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>>154989668
It's a fire element passive bio beld, it's a broken chip.
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>>154997664
Wait, a chip you can actually earn without dumping medals/AC is broken as in OP?
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>>154999445
Here are its specs:
23 cost, passive, activation rate at abi1 is 中, stats given at level 70 are 80 fire element, 282 HP, 9 CP.
25s duration once activated, gives an additional 60/55 fire element for that duration, along with a 100% occurance 120/110% damage chase hit.

The only way to obtain it for at least the next 2 months is via SH trigger rewards, after that it might be cycled out of the trigger reward (and into the weaponoid section of the recycle shop), but given how long rent aunum was in rotation it'll probably be the eq chip for at least 4 months.

Does that sound kind of broken to you?
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All you ever need to do is to not make another shitty thread.
I seriously don't get it, why do you make one every time. No one plays the game.
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>>155002331
i wish people would migrate to a new thread when ever the rappy autist bots
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>>155002331
I play the game (´・ω・`)
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>>155002405
And do what? Theres nothing to discuss.

>>155002406
No, you don't.
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This is what happens when your game is too shit to even have general thread.
Even "life is strange" has one that functions normally. You can't even compare to a bunch of autists. You are nothing.
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What should I be doing to level up as fast as possible?
Are the suggestions in this thread still relevant?

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?230380-Can-someone-tell-me-how-to-level-quickly
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>>155003950
Hit things until they die.
Or just play es and dump 999 exp passes on your character.
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>>155003950
find people and aq
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>>155004112
WTF WHY DID MY POSTS GET DELETED

1) YOU ASKED TO JOIN ME I DIDN"T ASK TO COME WITH YOU
2) I START CASTING AT BAL RODOS, YOU GET MAD BECAUSE YOU MISSED THE HOOK SINCE I CAUSED IT TO MISS A PHASE YOU RELY TO AIM IT WITH
3) YOU SIT IN THE MIDDLE IN PROTEST TOGETHER WITH THAT ONE GUY IN YOUR TEAM
4) I ACTUALLY DODGE THE STUPID BALL THIS TIME, WHICH IS WHY YOU ONLY HAVE ONE SCREENSHOT OF ME DEAD ON THE FLOOR IN THAT ARENA
5) I ASK YOU WHAT THE FUCK YOU WERE THINKING AND RIGHTFULLY ACCUSE YOU OF USING MY ERROR TO MOCK ME LATER
6) I QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT"S WORTH DOING DAILIES WITH SOMEONE WHO DOES NOTHING BUT SIT ON THE FLOOR
7) YOU THINK I DESERVE IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE BANTERS WE HAD, "U R NO LONGER NEEDED BB" IS SOMEHOW THE DEFINING QUOTE THAT CAUSED YOU TO JUST DOZE OFF IN FRONT OF BAL RODOS
8) FED UP WITH YOUR BULLSHIT AND YOUR DENIAL, DECIDE TO EXCOMMUNICATE YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN"T EVEN ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG

YOU EVEN SAID IN THE THREAD ONCE YOU DON"T ADMIT WRONGS EVEN IF YOU KNOW YOU ARE WRONG
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>>155004389
You made this bed now sleep in it
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>>155004660
I THINK I MADE IT REALLY CLEAR JUST NOW THAT IT WAS YOUR CHOICE, I JUST CHOSE NOT TO BE JERKED AROUND ANY LONGER THAN *TWICE*

BLAME YOURSELF FOR ONCE
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simlpy epic guys
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>>155002473
>No, you don't YOU IDORT
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>Usually hit 15-20k on Nova Ringa.
>Use Yamigasru or w.e chip.
>Suddenly hit 60k.
Nice p2w game.
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>>154991607
Sounds like bullshit. Most Br/Gus do 3-5m. Ideal bow helps but you will need a lot of PP from units. Doubt your 5.5m was from magatsu, maybe from demise on a wb'd exoda?
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>>155007263
>ugly avatarfag playing es
stop.
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>>155007440
Nothing to do in the game senpai and ES is actually fun.

They haven't come out with a better basewear since Toro/Kuro pathetic desu.
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>>155007430
Are you using chase arrow? Do you have a techer?
>you will need a lot of PP from units
that's what saiki is for
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what are these units in exchange shop? are they any good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD1TbArGzGQ

Can someone help me identify the costume pieces in this video?
Are the helmet and body armor available for females?
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>>155009106
Which set? There are quite a few scattered about.
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>>155007847
A lot of PP means exactly 225 for master shot finish and 190 for pene finish. To reach 225 PP you need atleast 5s heavy PP affixed saikis iirc. Pene finish is superior but requires some practice to get the double hit in, especially on magatsu, so most people don't bother since it dies in a minute anyway.
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>>155009123
that's a repca of some sort, I can't remember which. it's a single piece unisex outfit.
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>>155009179
I think its just the rear unit for 20x rare enemy chips in the latest exchange shop.
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>>155009179
nm Its on bumped.

Limit break 20 and something else 20.
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>>155009217
thanks.
are the ac scratch costumes affordable?
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>>155009612
Depends on the costume
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>>154981803
>1 minute fight
Might aswell post a falz arms parser.
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>>154981803
Isn't lilith brhu anyway? Can't really go higher as a brhu with shitty gear.
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>>155009612
バスク・レプカ, unisex costume, price depend on color but most of the costume price start from 1 mil and above. That cape is probably team accessory.
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how much PP is ok for Ra/Hu?
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>>155010643
whatever makes you feel like you have enough
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Is Shut Rounder chip any good.
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>>155011074
it's average, but shit.
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>can't get a wind 8 star item to release my brass haul
pretty triggered here.
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>>155011157
fun scratch until you get one.
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>>155011278
oh fuck nice idea senpai.
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I WANT TO FLY SKY HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>2s modulator units for 70k
Nice.
>>
The PSO2 stage at TGS will be live in 15 hours. Unlike the first day, this will actually contain update information and details about the October updates. Of note, this is the same month that contains Ultimate Amduscia and, possibly, the PA/Skill Balance Adjustments. Since we don't have many details about either, it should be an interesting hour.

Speaking of Ultimate Amduscia, apparently they are going to put a restriction on the level of your subclass. They're still finalizing it, but it may end up being 75.
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>>155017561
Can't wait for the shitters going ra/bo because those are their only classes at 75.
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>>155017561
>possibly
Almost certainly, it was in the roadmap as such.
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>>155015760
You shouldn't post pictures of Rappies like this.
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>>155018291
also, we haven't been sky high since march
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>>155017561
hey pso2g, why dont you try and guess what sorts of skill and balance adjustments will happen
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>>155018478
>all compounds now have infinite range
>melee gets their range halved
>rangers get WB advance, +150% multiplier on WB during standing snipe, other people also get the bonus but must stand still too
Sounds fair.
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>>155018478
I bet they nerf Chain and buff the rest of GU to compensate.
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>>155018478
FO buffs
PFO2.
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>>155018478
>ULTIMATE SKILL: SACRIFICE ONE USELESS FIHU SHITTER IN YOUR MPA TO PERFORM A DOUBLE FOLOLMEGION
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>>155015760
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>>155018478
buffs for everyone
literally everyone
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>>155018956
>>155018849
>YFW this happens
and this still happened
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>>155019106
Returner II was literally fucking nothing
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>>155019106
They ended up removing the bought units from shops and temp banning the people who bought them, though.
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>>155019372
This is wrong, I bought a lot of them, I still have some and didn't get banned.
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>>155019106
>rappy
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>>155019426
http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=8768

No, it isn't wrong.
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dead
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>>155019740
That's for who bought from unit shop, I bought from player shops.
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game
>>
lmao
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>>155009976
found the shitter
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>>155018478
- nothing that requires attention is changed
- melee gets +10% dmg on shit PAs no one uses
- forces get completely broken tech crafts and skills that improve compounds even further
- bouncer gets one more field
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>>155018478
Hunter gets an insignificant buff.
Fighter nerfed.
Bow Braver nerfed.
Ranger nerfed.
Gunner gets an insignificant buff.
Force buffed.
Techer left the same.
Bouncer gets an insignificant buff.
Summoner gets an insignificant buff.

The game will be left in a worse state than before.
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>>155021006
>sega
>nerfing anything
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>>155021006
>The game will be left in a worse state than before.
Man what a prediction, its not like it is not happening every day since 2012.
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>>155017561
>Speaking of Ultimate Amduscia, apparently they are going to put a restriction on the level of your subclass. They're still finalizing it, but it may end up being 75.
I assume that your main class will also be required to be 75

The current Ultimate Quests only require 70
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>>155020616
?
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>>155021306
I believe so, yes.
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>>155021006
>bow br nerfed.
LMAO what
>>
Do friend partners increase the number of clones that show up in AQ e-trials?
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>>155023540
I'm not really sure, but you should be filling out the rest of your empty slots with them anyway since there's no penalty for it, aside from maybe a Ranger type being stupid with weak bullets.
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>>155023540
No, they don't. Just like everywhere else, the number of clones that show up depends on how many actual players that are in your party.
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>>155027574
Proof that sleeping in the tub is dangerous.
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>can't kill Rodos as Gu.
I want to kill myself, CHAIN MECHANIC SUCKS DICK.
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>>155028743
>switch to rifle, build chain to 20, wb, charge end attract, release

there, your 999k damage x3
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>>155029310
wanted to practice with my TMG's but the fucking auto attacks moves you so it fucks up the aim and you miss it on the chain.
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>>155018478
Bow BR changes:
>kamikaze arrow now pierces until it hits target
>kamikaze arrow dmg increased by 50%
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>>155019242
>make over 120m

Yes goy it was nothing in my bank
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>>155029535
Having the exact problem. Never managed to CT the jaw, it always go to the face/skull part even with Z-aim
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>>155030351
>shuffled around from other players
>implying that's a lot in the first place
Do you even into MMO economics
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>>155030481
Enough for me to not play the game ever since and still buy what I want?
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>>155030593
You're just one guy. What matters is the big picture. Returner II wasn't the end of the game's economy. It had no lasting impact on the game as a whole.
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>>155030812
Ok Sega.
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>>155031062
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>>155031285
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>>155030386
That's probably because you hit the tooth when he closed his mouth.
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>>155029535
>>155030386
I had that problem too. But the solution is simple.
>have WB loaded before starting the teleporter
>harpoon boss
>activate CT with rifle on
>switch to Z-aim and shoot at the lower jaw; try to aim lower and closer to the tip of the jaw
>switch to TMG
>jump slightly and build 40+ chain while in Z-aim
>use Satellite Aim once or twice to kill
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>>155030351
People make that in about 2-3 days of modulator farming. While still a good amount of money, it's not the massive reallocation of wealth fags here were making it out to be.
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>>155031742
2-3 days of non stop mod farming vs. 5 minutes at npc
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>>155018478
nerf or buff something by 40%-60%
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>get es shop notification
>login, something sold for 5m
>spend 1.2m restocking my shop
>logoff
What do you guys do when there's nothing to do? I wish ultimate wasn't dead.
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>>155039160
>What do you guys do when there's nothing to do?

I solo Ultimate.
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>>155039160
>What do you guys do when there's nothing to do?
Not play dead games.
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>>155039160
>What do you guys do when there's nothing to do?
play edf online mode and GTAV?
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>>155039160
ULT AMDUSCIA COMING IN OCTOBER
OHH EMM GEE NEW ULT!!!!!! GAME SAVED SEGA STOPPED BEING RETARDED!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW AMAZING BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
>>
what exactly are "new type weapons"?
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>>155041568
New type weapons are weapons that have NT at the end of their names. They use a different method of grinding than old type weapons, where you fill the Grind EXP bar to reach new grind levels, instead of having a percentage chance of success/failure/grind levels dropping.
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>>155041886
The NT weapons are easier to get to 30+ and puts them on or above par of weapons of a higher * level.
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>>155042407
They are very convenient to be sure.
>>
Just picked up my 2-3 year old level 24 Br/Hu to try out the build >>154949363 suggested.
Can someone tell me what my weapon and armor progression should look like?
I played this game to level 60 back then but I honestly don't remember a single thing.
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>>155043209
I wouldn't worry about it until you're in XH.
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>>155043209
You can roll with anything up to VH, then you can grab a red weapon, get it crafted and if you want to go the extra mile; grind Challenge mode for Photon boosters to unlock its potential (+14% more damage when crafted). It should carry you through SH and then when it comes to XH; look at the collection files for when you get there and do your research on the katana (if there is one) that has a CF at the time.

As for Armor; Hiei set is easy to grab (can be paid for from the player shops for a pretty cheap price), you can get it PP crafted or HP crafted (mix it up if you want, like 2 PP crafted units and 1 HP craft). Gloam set + Whitetail is still pretty good since you can get it from an EP3 matterboard. Then you can move onto Saiki if you're willing to farm for it or if you can go to Extreme quests, play with a 250% on a high level floor until you get 3 11 star units and trade them for passes and then buy Saiki set from the player shops (this option requires premium to trade in the units for passes). However, you don't have to worry about this stuff until you're in SH.
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>>155045347
>>155045860
Thanks so far.
What exactly is a Red Weapon and how do I get it crafted? I do remember crafting being a thing but my memory is real hazy. Can I do the Hiei crafting myself?
Sorry for the stupid questions.
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>Tfw sign was bullied away
>>
>tfw everyone went away
Boy i do love seeing 0 friends online.
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>>155047136
Red weapon is a series of weapons that drop from VHAQ (Very Hard Advance Quests). You can buy them from the player shops, they should be pretty cheap. You can craft the first couple to few levels but I'd recommend using the visiphone to request the craft. The negative to this is that you're relying on someone to do the craft (it's better if it's someone you know and is willing to fulfill your requests one after the other). You'll have to supply the Meseta and the materials for crafting though.

Crafting is basically a Meseta sink with some nice stuff inside, I wouldn't recommend it since it can get expensive.
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>>155047887
I'm online. But no one wants to play with a Vitafag
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>>155048108
Fuck off, you're the reason we can't move hands and our feet look like bricks.
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>>154945241
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>>155048904
It's okay. I suspect I only have a year or so left to live before SEGA kills this mistake. But I'm still going to have fun until then
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>>155052534
We're still not going to get moving hands and better looking feet even if they kill vita support.
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>>155054954
Well then, it seems kinda rude to tell another player of a dying game to fuck off. I would imagine you'd want everyone playing so SEGA doesn't kill the game off entirely.
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Hello /pso2g/. How is everyone enjoy Phantasy Star Online 2? :^)
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>>155055748
>that closed as fuck circle of people
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>>155055748
Is thats the Pso2 or FF discord
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>>155055748
>>155056160
Isn't that the Hyperion discord that redfox is running?
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>>155056415
>redfox
i think you're confusing red with sanya
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>>155055748
>ff14

LAMO
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>>155055748
>all my fucking friends trying to get me to use discord
>use vent and mIRC for years

Fucking tools, every last one of them.
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>>155055748
But the real /pso2g/ discord has people playing pso2
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>>155055748
i c a cuk
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>>155056737
I'm in a similar situation, except it's mumble and irc for me. I legitimately don't get the appeal of discord.
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>>155057037
>>155056737
IRC is just too old
Vent,TS, mumble are mostly used for voice chats
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>>155056913
should we tell him?
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>>155057037
Pushed by faggots from twitch to make some uniform thing. I hear the app is backdoored as fuck.
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>>155057329
Disco a gud cause text and voice at once.
>>155056160
lol u mad cuz u aint in
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>>155056585
Someone told me in the discord they were the same person
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>>155056415
Who is redfox? Also I don't think those are all Hyperion members.
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>>155057329
IRC is great at what it does: being a text chat client with no emote bullshit. I'm fine with mumble because hosting your own server is trivial if you're so inclined.

>>155057494
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
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>>155057546
what would any of them teach me to get better at pso2? there all casual trash
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>>155055748
Nah thats just the cuck discord.
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>>155055748
wish I could afford to play with all my friends...
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>>155057598
That one person who has the fox character with the napkin/condom looking thing in their mouth. The always try to replicate the drake meme
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>>155057969
Do you enjoy being under the iron rule of a psychopath who thinks monks have no use in end game?
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>>155055748
why does this look like conc or itsuka posted this?
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>>155058124
>iron rule
>psychopath
What?
Also monks are completely useless when compared to ninja.
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>>155058327
Spoken like a true retard who has never been in savage.
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Say someyhing nice to Gene
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>>155058740
Have a nice 3 day vacation, hopefully it's permanent.
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post your character!
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>>155058923
Fuck you Zettai
Who are you in pso2
>>
>>155057848
>there
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>>155058740
Jesus fuck please put some actual clothes on Gene.
>>155058923
ayy
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>>155058923
Probably not even the real zettai going by the trash in Hyperion discord saving with file names.
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>>155059260
Whats going on in the Hyperion discord
Can you be m insider
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>>155058740
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>>155059260
Great detective work Balmung scum.
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>>155055748
Explains the sudden influx of pso2 related shitposting, mad cucks like Kotori, Magik, Red, Konami, etc
>>
>>155059260
why you still browsing pso2g?
>>
>>155059495
tfw you never got to be konami's friend
>>
>>155058902
I missed you too
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>>155058923
Ugly
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>>155058923
why do all characters look the same
are there like 3 face variations or something?
>>
>>155059658
i miss sadwitch
>>
>>155059554
>>155059658
Fuck off super

Hook me up with some LoliofAstora nudes
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>>155058923
Sure :^)
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>>155058740
>>155060396
>>155058923

Its time to stop.
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>>155060396
Notice me senpai
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>>155060674
>getting mad because of silly name changes
>>
It's over. It's really over. Like 'em or not Hyperion was the glue that was keeping redrum/cafe alive. All we have left is the stragglers from EDF who don't have enough members online to form an mpa and a few people from SEES who stop by sometimes (lets not even talk about EDF's gear). I just want to keep playing this stupid game regardless and without Hyperion it's become very hard. At least I get to take many creepshots of ロンメイ.
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>>155060871
My smile and optimism was gone
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>>155060991
sees are with them too :^)

>>155055748
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>>155060991
>>
>>155062185
>hypercucks cucking sees into erp fantasy 14

lmao
>>
As a reminder, TGS is going live in about an hour, but the PSO2 stuff won't be for a few hours after that (around 1:30 AM EST).
>>
>>155062669
>>155062185
There is no one from SEES in that picture.
>>
>>155062808
how about in JST, I can't convert EST on the fly.
>>
>>155062886
14:30~15:30
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>>155062954
Thanks.
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>hey Sega anything about a NEW FUCKING CLASS.
>No we're just collaborating with some new garbage shit.
Why do they do this to themselves.
>>
>>155063349
New classes as of late come with new episodes and there's been no word of ep v yet (please end iv as soon as possible ahhh)
>>
>>155063349
>why do they do this to themselves
why do you do this to yourself IDIOT
>>
>>155063653
>as of late
You mean since 2013
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>>155063696
Jealous again?
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>>155063653
ep4 literally saved the game with all time login counts
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>>155064339
The influx of new people was due to the PS4 release of the game and has literally nothing to do with the quality of the content of episode iv
>>
>>155064339
It doesn't look very "saved", doc.
>>
>>155064510
You basically started playing at ep4 2bh
>>
>>155064240
Why haven't you killed yourself already?
>>
>>155064510
it saved pso2g but removing all the cancer >>155055748

besides gaijins dont matter at all despite what psoworld thinks
>>
>giving 155064240 (yous)
>>
>discord full of cucks who suck of their waifus for gameplay
>moved to a game with shit tier dressup
and sameface character creator
>>
>>155064510
Maybe if you got all that hair out of your eyes and were capable of looking at the game as a whole instead of just your clique, it would.
>>
>>155065308
fucking DESTROYED.
>>
>>155065308
>bearhead
>having a clique

top lamo my man
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>/pso2g/ is dead so the game is obviously dead.
I forgot this place was full of IDIOTS.
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>mfw 1b+ meseta
>mfw i dont think anything over 150/9 is worth the effort
>mfw i still aim to get more money
release me from this hell
>>
>>155065557
show blocks :)
>>
>>155065557
Stop posting.
>>
>>155065557
Why don't fuck back off to /a/ and /v/ like lilith
>>
>>155064617
>>155065308
It's definitely much less alive, or at least feels like it, than when I started playing. Granted I started more than a year ago, so it's not saying much. And like >>155065476
said, I never had a clique, aside the teams I'm in / was in
>>
Question but higher ranks of status effects affixes just increase their chance to proc/damage inflicted or both?
>>
>>155066570
The duration of the effect
>>
>>155066570
It depends on the status. It makes Burn and Poison do more damage, and it makes Freeze more durable. Panic/Mirage/Shock probably have longer durations.
>>
>>155066389
There's not much incentive to do things outside of EQs unlike when ult dropped the best weapons, but overall I don't think the playercount is actually lower
>>
>>155066713
>>155066983
I see so is it a good idea to affix my ds with burn3 or go higher/something else?
>>
>>155062843
Remu
>>
About to start play XIV. Anyone want me to use their friend or referral code?
>>
>>155068283
Burn III is fine, IV is nice if you can get it without any extra trouble, but is otherwise not worth it. You only really need it to activate Chase and enemies don't usually live long enough for the minor difference in damage to matter.
>>
>>155068773
Those require an email on XIV.
>>
I GOT TWO TRIGGERS, WHO WANTS TO HELP YA BOY SKENGS THE GOD.
>>
>>155069867
es triggers I mean
>>
Why is there so much ff14 talk here now?
>>
>>155070425
Because the thread is being raided by the shitposter discord that is playing ff14 currently.
>>
>>155063349
PSO2 has too many classes as is.
>>
>>155070713

Is this discord any relation to the FUCKING TEAMSPEAK?
>>
>>155071781
One and the same.
>>
>>155063349
I think they should fix up bouncer some before they make up a new class.
>>
>>155072031
BO could easily use some tweaks but damn that
>craft mastery
skill will always crack me up seeing how it was plastered without rhyme or reason
>>
>>155072349
>without rhyme or reason
had its use back in the day
>>
>>155072732
fi/bo shenanigans were cool but really the skill itself is just something that does not feel like it belongs to any class
hell they could just bake that % increase to everyone now and just remove it allready
>>
>>155072349
>>155072912
Crafting in general seems like it's always been an afterthought.
>>
>>155072912
>>155073640
I can see no problems with BO getting Crafting Mastery, or crafting in general.
The problem is, just like with half of the sub-systems and mechanics in this game, SEGA completely forgot they do exist.
>>
What is it about Demise that after all this time, most MPAs still have such poor AIS distribution? Everyone just saves theirs till waves 5 and 6, which by then all the towers are on fire.
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>>155073854
>mfw always do it on w4
literally red towers/jerk off some mobs and laser the 2 ais+maluda spawn
>>
>>155071564
They only did new classes right with episode 1's introduction: 3 classes at once, all as an advance class of the existing ones. If instead of after that dripfeeding one class per episode, they'd have gone with the x/y hybrids all at once (and never introduced pet master), it'd have gone a lot smoother and had more lastability because half the playerbase wouldn't be playing the same class, pissing the other half who have no interest in that one new class off.

>>155073640
>>155073794
The real problem with crafting is that from its very inception, it was 'flat'. You couldn't craft say, a double saber, to also have t-atk, or be entirely t-atk based for whatever reason you want. The same goes for units. You lost everything the unit had by default except for the set bonus, leading to the problem with saiki. You couldn't sacrifice all that defense for pp (ala elder units).
>>
>>155073640

Because it's a lazy system that servers nearly no purpose to actually level yourself. It's nothing but gear upgrading, doesnt even deserve the term crafting.
>>
>>155073640
Everything they add to the game becomes an afterthought
>>
>>155074294
>The real problem with crafting is that from its very inception, it was 'flat'.
My money is they might have thought on having something like that down the line, but it always felt like some new guy came along and said "hey guys I have this sick idea for a subsystem, these neat items to power up UNITS, let's build that on top of the existing shit!" and forgot all about their previous crafting plans, maybe the guy who originally thought about crafting was fired or just left.

What I mean is, there's A LOT of shit put one on top of the other like patches resulting in this weird Frankenstein, and I think this whole "what is implemented stays like that and it won't ever move, let's just add on top" deal is kind of a jp-trend.
>>
>>155073854
I tend to just notify the MPA that I'm going to use my first AIS on waves 1 and 2. I blaster vibras to oblivion and then wrap up wave1 in seconds, then I have time to shortedn wave2 severely.

I find that this allows other players to be more free with AIS usage, and we get a lot more players doing 2 AIS per wave, staggered of course.
>>
>>155073640
Weapon crafting is. Every other crafting skill is very useful.
>>
>>155074923
Blaster is kinda wasted on Vibrace. I prefer using the blaster on the ragne in w2.
>>
>>155074294
>They only did new classes right with episode 1's introduction
Maybe not? I seem to recall criticism that this totally screwed the game's balance: not so much the three added classes themselves, but the subclass system that was added alongside them, and it wasn't until Ultimate/XH that the game even seemed to take them into consideration at all.
>>
>>155074923
>wave 1 AIS
you are the problem.
>>
>>155077414
>speeding up a run
>wipe all the darkers before they even touch the towers
>bad
>>
>>155077414
wave 1 AIS is perfectly fine, infact if your mpa is good it's even more beneficial since you can leave basically everything to AIS apart from the exodas on wave 3, and just have a majority of the mpa collecting crystals.
>>
dead fucking game lmao
>>
Would anyone like to EB?
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>>155077915
You don't need more than 3k crystals for heals. Wasting AIS on wave 1 is dumb since wave 2 is 90% damoths which die in a second. Goldies in wave 1 are usually already taken care of by a force and some zondeel. If your mpa actually needs an AIS to kill damoths then you are doomed to fail anyways.
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>>155081071
You are full of nonsense
The only reason to not use an AIS in w1 is that you're afraid you won't have enough AIS for the rest of the run
For an organized, this isn't an issue, you use an ais at w1+2 and still have enough to finish
For a pub it doesn't even matter because people just can't stop themselves from collecting crystals
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>>155081071
If you argue like that you should never AIS because everything can be taken care of by forces and zondeel.
>>
>>155081071
>>155081431
>>155081530
>discussing AIS usage for one of the easiest eqs in the game
How are those pub runs going?
>>
>>155081856
People using AIS w1 are the shitters in the pugs.
>>
>>155081938
It doesn't matter if it's TD3 or TD4 because you can finish at 100% two runs without any AIS usage.
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>>155082060
You will never match the DPS as an AIS
Not even with a tricked out build
If you don't use AIS during TD3 or 4 you are literally doing negative damage
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>>155082370
spotted the tryhard HU
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>>155081071
If you removed the arbitrary run limit on TD/yamato/etc, you'd get a lot more people going wave 1 AIS.
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>>155083342
Demise is the only quest with a run limit where that even matters
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>>155083342
well sure, but it basically comes down to "if your group is good you'll get more runs" regardless of the eq.
>>
>>155083718
I kinda feel like they should have limited every EQ to 1 and balanced around that from the beginning

Although I'm not really sure how Elder or Loser would have even worked. Maybe those would just be an exception and work as they do already.
>>
Also, what the hell is Gravity Daze 2?
>>
>>155083870
Elder/Luther on their own are abysmal eq's as far as drops go. Elder is at least good exp during arms, but Luther is just trash all round.
>>
>>155083964
>Also, what the hell is Gravity Daze 2?
It's a dildo
>>
>>155084087
>>155084087
>>155084087
>>
>>155083994
Well, I mean, when I said "from the beginning" it would also have been back when they were relatively more relevant and there really wasn't anything better, impossible 12* and barely even seen 11* being the norm at the time anyway
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>>155083994
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29662749
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>>155084165
>>155084165
>>155084165
>>155084165
>>
>>155084112
>>155084112
lol no
>>
>>155084112
Oh goddamn it
>>
>>155084163
>nicovideo
not even going to watch
fuck that outdated low quality flash player using bullshit.
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