/parag/ - Paragon General

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validating

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This orc slaps your girlfriend's ass and asks her to join him on tour. What do you do?

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http://www.strawpoll.me/11210487

ded thread

Not even popular enough to stay alive

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>>154607927
Because everyone is having fun and actually playing the game

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>>154606715

>cloak, slash, dagger, then ult for a billion damage in a guaranteed flowchart, then turn invisible and jump away
>one of the most effective heroes at higher level play and recommended for advanced players only in-game
>buffed recently, could be better than we even know

>this is somehow a shit hero

>>154608007
Kallari's ult doesn't hit for a billion, though. It does minimal damage but gives her a global enemy teleport and global vision. She simply doesn't hit as hard as she should.

Reposting from the previous thread:

The problem with Kallari is that she doesn't feel like your typical assassin. Your MOBA assassin has three pillars:
>Is difficult to catch
>Is able to delete targets of opportunity at a moment's notice
>has the weakest defenses
Kallari is 2 for 3: she's incredibly slippery with her stealth and double jump, and she will get wiped out very quickly if she's caught. Right now, she doesn't have the raw killing power you'd come to expect from an assassin. Old Kallari was a one-trick pony: either you hit your ult, or you lose the fight. Current Kallari has a lot more utility (permastealth, a slow on her dagger, global enemy vision/global teleport on her ult), but she can't remove targets of opportunity by herself. That's a problem.

>>154608007
>>154608163
Also, her basic attack chain looks stupid as shit.
https://developer-paragon-cdn.epicgames.com/Videos/18FE8E65FCF1A4F6B035B8F3B607E2D6A7885A63.webm

is there a list of what rewards you get at what paragon levels, or is it actually random?

I guess all we can really do is wait for a second assassin to arrive and contrast with Kallari. Right now, she feels like a utility assassin, which is admittedly rather unique as MOBAs go. I'm waiting for an assassin with absolute killing power. The funny thing is that the closest thing to that is Khaimera.

>>154609361
Some early levels are clear-cut rewards, like deck slots, card packs, boosters, etc. Most of the time, though, your reward is a "Tribute," which is a randomized reward of the previous offers.

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have a webm

Gideon is crazy fun

>>154610630
that looks smooth af. My game stutters like crazy, any large fight and it drops to 4fps or less.

>>154611930

Sounds like it's time for you to upgrade. I'm pulling 1080p60 on medium settings with a mid-tier card from last year.

>>154607993

These better cost 650 funbucks or less, because that's all I have at the moment.

What time is the patch for whatshertits? Is there even a patch or was that what the maint on the 10th was for?

>>154614290
9AM EDT

New hero tomorrow

>>154614326
damn, well thank you. I was hoping she was already out, she looks pretty fun. At least i'll get to sleep before she comes out.

Someone asked this in the other thread.

"anyone know if co-op vs. bots gives the same rewards as regular matches, for grinding out boosts?"

It gives out exactly the same time-based rewards as PvP, but matches tend to end quicker so smart players typically drag out the match to the rewards cap of 42 minutes. Any less than that partly wastes a win-boost or daily.

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Why is combat movement so slow this game feels like Smite but slowed by 50% .

GOOD BURGER: https://discord.gg/ZQQuyff

MONDO BURGER: https://discord.gg/KAskceE

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>>154616234
You fucking autist have two discords when you can't even keep a thread from dying without bumps?

How many fucking packs do I have to open before I get some tokens?

>>154616527

Sage Advice For Dealing With Card Pack RNG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdzPp9cRKN0

>>154616692
Fucking desire sensors

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immensely satisfying

>>154616527

Spend ALL of your rep on card packs.

Wait for card crafting like the rest of us, while Epic delays it to rake in the shekels from boosts.

They could probably program a card buyback system or a way to burn cards to get unowned cards in a day, but the grind-to-win, pay-to-grind-faster system is proven and effective.

Are any of the heroes useless?

Who should I play of i want teammates to be grateful?

>>154623415
A good dekker

>TWO discords
>Thread dies

this is why I said discord is shit
fucking retards

>>154623415
Dekker if you want to want to be responsible for keeping people safe/locking down enemies and setting them up for kills.

Muriel if you want to keep people safe in a slightly less effective, but much more noticeable way.

Don't play Narbash.

As long as you buy a 3 cost ward item your team will be grateful regardless of who you're playing.

>>154623310
>I have minimal health it's a 2v1 and i'm going do minimal dmg to these minions better waste my peel on that instead of gtfo

that steel was retarded was that AI?

>>154623810
>Don't play Narbash
It hurts so much

>>154623810
>>154623415

Narbash is great, actually people love any good support so Muriel, Dekker or Narbash

DO NOT PLAY KALLARI like ever she is the only useless character atm because even after the buff her dmg is shit especially in a armor/health meta and Grux and Khaimera literally do her job better than her in every way

>>154623656
Bunch of Morons

>>154623415
Some of them are, in the sense that other heroes are simply better though not unplayable.

To name a few: Sparrow, Rampage, Fey, Kallari.

Just make sure to view their abilities instead of their role/type which doesn't really mean anything.

>Who should I play of i want teammates to be grateful?
If "grateful" is the sole reason, then Muriel or Dekker. You win matches more by using a jungler carry though.

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>>154623913
Don't listen to these idiots

>>154624195
Fey and Narbash are unplayable

>>154624250
>look at the other Narbash

>>154624028
>Narbash is great
How so?

His heal sucks
Dekker also has a stun
Dekker also has a speed boost and the jump is great
Containment is better than crash bang boom

>>154624250
>look at this 59 vs 14 stomp
>truly this is a good representation of this hero with only 3 abilities

>>154624195
>Rampage
>can solo towers most of the time with his ult

>Fey
>annoying as fuck and can cripple minion wave easily


You guys need to stop giving bad advice to the new players, jungler is the worst thing you can advise some one new to play because it's already bad enough most "skilled" junglers have no fucking clue how to jungle and you end up with 3 of these fucks on your team leaving the other 2 players to get fucking deathballed.

>>154624289
well, you can always play them vs ai or something.

>>154624250
Pls post build.
What do I do with him early game?

>>154624348
Narbash stun is more reliable and last longer
Since he's a fighter his dmg and health etc. scale better than the casters
he has a higher win ratio than the other supports

>B-BUT HIS HEAL SUCKS

yeah he has one skill that's under performing which you can just balance out with a circlet of healing and clearheart anyway

>>154624620
>yeah he has one skill that's under performing which you can just balance out with a circlet of healing and clearheart anyway

>use two items just so his one skill becomes mediocre

That's fucking awful

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>>154624727
2 cards that SUPPORT you AND your team are bad ( you know Narbash doing his ROLE )

>>154624461
sorry man that was an old deck I got from agora.gg I don't remember which one I use my own for solo queue though since it's not as premade necessary like that old one

►Empyrean Mask
►Circlet of health w/ 3x Advanced Mana
►Quartzblade w/ 3x Greater Health
►Satori Cloak w/ Greater barrier
►Clearheart w/ pure spark and perfect spark
►Madspore Sash w/ Divine guard and beta heal


You start with the circlet so you can sustain longer early game

2nd I usually find it best to go to the Quatzblade giving you a bit of mana regen and dmg early also you can start pumping health making you a tank even earlier before he gets to lvl15

3rd fill out the circlet's mana so you can possibly heal at least a little for you team/minions

the rest in what ever order you feel you need though I usually get the mask since you can switch between regen, armor or dmg on the fly

it's an eccentric build but it checks out.

If you don't have all that (you most likely won't) I recommend his premade "caster - physical dmg" deck until you get those cards.

Try to stay in the back of team fights and either
thunk(stun) to initiate or get retreating heroes, he works well with other heroes that can also stun like Rampage or Khaimera, you basically lock someone in place to get rapped by your teamates you can use his ult in a similar fashion.

his kit is ABSOLUTELY difficult solo though so try to never EVER solo lane.

>gnarbash
>ult that literally slows you upon using it, allowing people to walk out of it much easier
>18hp regen at max level for the whopping value of 40mana per second
>medicore stun on an 18 second cooldown

>>154624620
>Since he's a fighter his dmg and health etc. scale better than the casters

Nigga. His basic attack has .4 scaling like a caster. The fact that he's a melee hero is a drawback because he has to farm from melee range.

>>154624620
>Since he's a fighter
he's a caster

I really hate the card rng

there are so many good cards for specific heroes

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Siren Song, Wicked Stigma or Shockwave for my final slot on Riktor?

Shockwave and Stigma have better actives but have worthless stats whereas with Stigma I can reach 40% CDR and get a little extra health.

>there are many people who still think greystone isn't a carry

fuck epic for not making this clear enough despite them even say this in the overview video

i get angry whenever i'm asked if i'm jungling or "tanking"(although i do fuck shit up with satori cloak and tempered plate, it's definitely not reliable tanking)

god dammit i'm a laner

AND STOP MAKING ME LANE AGAINST A CASTER

Also, why hasn't anyone tried to make SFM porn of the females yet?

>>154632209
Can those even handle Sparrow's hair?

>>154632258
not with that attitude

>>154632119
He's not a carry though. He scales like shit. He's just a shit hero in general, but building damage on him works the best because he's bad at everything else.

>>154632209
Soon. The game has to catch on first.

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>>154632258
probably by using simplified models

>>154632975
Migrating something from UE4 to Source is bound to look kinda ugly. That, plus Paragon doesn't yet have the penetration to warrant SFM porn.

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>>154635126
>tfw shitting on noobs with Sparrow
>mfw Murdock tries to 1v1 me

She's the best

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>>154636080
>I will spend today finishing up some single player games i've had going for a while
>play paragon all day

HELP

>>154636080
Assuming Sparrow can be kept free, she is a deadly duelist at range.

>snipe with murdock across map

>yfw you land a double

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>>154638790
I'll be happy with just a single.

Patch today, boys. Who's actually going to try and queue as Lt. Belica, knowing the day one rush?

>>154640704
gonna try her in solo v bots some, then just go to playing iggy/grux/riktor

She honestly doesn't seem like she'll fit my playstyle so i'm not too worried about being able to play her off the bat.

FUCK YOU CRACKY

>>154640704
is it only her or will there be balance changes too?

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>>154641524
It's mostly her, but there are a couple other changes.
>New emotes for Gideon, Kallari, TwinBlast, Greystone, Murdock
>Black and prime camps will spawn and respawn two minutes faster
>Prime guardian has less health
>Change to super minion spawning

>>154641631
anon, those match length fixes were patched in early a few days ago

this patch isn't really going to give shit beyond commanding waifu and cosmetics

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not like this

>>154642017
My condolences

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32qBs0e7q4E
>Belica is flagged as a support
Huh.

>>154644994
great
more shit damage heroes

>>154645213
You can still build her as a regular caster, just like Gadget has a "support" build. Belica's default decks are both caster and support decks.

Also, Belica's ult is player-targeting, so you can't miss.

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>>154645729
>Belica's ult is player-targeting, so you can't miss.
fuck this

I want Sparrow to _____ Dekker's ______ while Belica ______ her ________ at the same time.

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>Max rank Void Drone drains 2 mana/second

>>154646005
You want Sparrow to hold Dekker' hand while Belica holds her other hand at the same time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIGnJ4lbq5E

>>154646232
On the bright side, it does hit pretty hard if an enemy casts anything in its range.

Also, if you hit an entire minion wave with your mana bomb, you effectively refund 3/5 your mana spent on the bomb.

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>>154646259

belica looks like powercreep

the generic bass music for this game fucking sucks

>people just straight up dodging if they don't get belica

cool this is gonna be a fun week

>>154647460
This always happens day one of a new hero. It doesn't help that the hero race is on for her as well. I just played her in a solo vs. AI game to get it out of my system. I'll let everyone else fight over the new waifu.

So, does cop slut's ultimate deal damage based on total enemy mana missing or % missing mana?

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>>154647938
>Deal 125|175|225 [energy damage] plus an additional 0.75|1|1.25 [energy damage] per point of target's missing [mana].
Per point of total mana.
Lt. Belica is not a slut; she is an upstanding arbiter of justice.

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>>154647938
>narbashes face when

>>154648127
>>154648152
So everyone who builds raw mana against Belica is fucked.

>>154648127
Paragon doujinshi when?

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>>154648225
just don't cast spells

>>154648127
>>154648294
Belica's lore bullet points say her personal life is a "flaming mess." She's clearly someone who dove into her career to get away from everything else.

>>154648127

>1500 damage nuke against an empty mage

fuck. This shit is wack.

>like playing pushers
>they're ass in closed beta
>until update .27 makes their basic attacks good
>that change is reverted in a couple of weeks
>meanwhile it takes rangers half a year to get nerfed into line
>rangers finally get the nerf bat in .29
>then we get an anti-mage hero

the horror won't end

>>154648152
narbash is fine, they said
just stack mana up, they said

>>154649312

Maybe now the "mana regen sucks" meme won't be such a meme anymore

Just played as the new waifu
>Enemy iggy mid.
>ult alone almost one shots him

I love this new hero!

>have one(1) mana item, the brawlers ward
>belica ult does 40% of my hp

nerfed, calling it

>>154649542
What was the level difference? How much mana did he have?

>>154649501
except that it takes over 4 minutes to regenerate one point worth of mana with one point worth of mana regen

>>154649780
>have 0(zero) items as khaimera
>can kill anyone at level 3
nerfed, calling it

>>154649542
>>154649780
Remember that her ult's damage is based on raw missing mana. If you don't want to get shut down by the anti-caster, then get some help and make your shots count. It also helps that she has to be in relatively close range to trigger her ult, and Belica has no gap closers, so just maintain your distance and she can't ult you.

belica is khaimera/grux tier

expect to see her every fucking game

>>154649981
It's fine design in pro play, and if we have tournaments or something I doubt she'd even be played. But solo queue in shitter land people are just going to walk up to her and get ulted left and right until she's nice and fed and builds some defense and suddenly nobody is safe.

Belica's Void Drone is probably the most durable deployable in the game so far. It takes several hits before it's destroyed, making it good if you need an extra body to tank a tower. It makes up for the fact that it's on a ~40s cooldown.

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>>154650180
However, her Seismic Assault (line knockup) is way too slow. It travels from Belica all the way to the end of the line, and it takes about a second to complete. Everyone can see it coming and can sidestep away if they're far enough to see it. You're supposed to be comboing her Seismo Hammer with her Void Bomb for healthy damage, but it doesn't work if everyone can walk away from her knockup.

Right now, level for Belica goes
>Ult
>Bomb
>Drone
>Knockup

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>>154650158
>She's fine, no need to worry
>hero has been out for like 2 hours

>>154650429
read the whole post

So would Shockwave be good on Belica?

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>>154604298
SteveChurch discord is reddit

>>154650927

Anyone who's been playing this game since March has had to use Reddit because it's been literally impossible to discuss Paragon on 4chan until after the paywall got removed. You faggots wouldn't stop sucking off Overwatch and /v/ was unreadable because of it.

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if young murdock don't trust you i'ma shoot you

>>154652761
>You faggots
I want reddit to leave

Here's some vital news posted first on Reddit because Epic wouldn't dare acknowledge this dingy shithole.

https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/52ky0h/minion_move_speed_and_server_crash_update/

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>>154653454
fuck off tallis, if you don't like 4chan so much stop recruiting and advertising here you fucking autist
you barely play paragon and mostly use the discord to post inane offtopic shit and other games

>>154653454

>we’ll be increasing the movement speed of minions from 450 to 550
>indirect buff to pushers who can split push even faster now

Neat, that should help shape things up with the current state of the game.

>>154653450

I want trash shitters who ignored this game in favor of shallow meme games in March, April, May, June and July to leave, but then I'd be the only one here.

Also, "you faggots" as opposed to maybe "us faggots"? Shut up, faggot. The Paragon subreddit is essential to anyone who takes this game seriously, because it has all the information and updates and Epic responses. Fuck off with your retarded memes.

>>154653686
>you barely play paragon

I've played for 300 hours, am the only one here who is at Level 50 or even remotely close to it (and have been there for months), have 272 cards, have three heroes mastered, and have been in every game either Discord has played over voice chat. I've been playing with the people in that Discord for two hours a day, almost every day.

You are fucking cancer and a casual.

>>154653698
It's funny because it's reverting a change from months ago that slowed the minions down so players could push more reliably.

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>>154654050
>>154653871
>being this anti-4chan
>still advertising your reddit hugbox discord here

>dodge
>dodge
>dodge

guess I'll just play LoL for the week

>>154654316

Because there are legitimately cool people who have joined and we play together, instead of being a faggot like you and saying nothing and just sitting there waiting to screencap shit that I say to shitpost these threads with.

>>154654496
put your trip back on

>>154654204

Epic is so ass backwards.

>hour+ long games in closed beta
>Epic responds to this by nerfing damage cards, slowing minions, and reducing minion damage to towers

>>154654496
for a reddit retard that doesnt like 4chan, I don't know why you advertise your discord here but not on reddit

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I'm having to much fun with her

>>154655607

Because the PEOPLE on Reddit are cringe oversensitive normies, but they post good content and Epic posts there.

The people on 4chan can be great once you encounter them outside of 4chan.

I read Reddit and play with 4chan, but not the other way around if I can help it.

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>>154655834
>says the guy that banned someone over the word nigger

>>154655964

Steve is far less of a nigger than you are.

>>154655610
You should be dropping your drone at the start of the teamfight. That lets you dictate the pace of the fight.

bampuuuuu

Have played with discord guy.
He's cool. You guys are acting like teenage bitches

>waaah muh 4chan asshole mentality must be obeyed
>reddit is bogeyman

Give it up gay boys. You'll just say I'm him though so whatever

>>154660792
Put your trip back on

>>154660792
the first discord is shit
it doesn't even look like belongs to /parag/

>>154660792
>samefagging
put your trip back on.

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>>154661380

It doesn't.

It belongs to Dreadlock Jesus, from whom all blessings flow.

>>154661925
Fuck off steve

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>>154661954

Don't you know where you'd be without me?

Click, click.

>>154660949
>>154661675
You guys are sad

>>154661380
The second discord is a ghost town. I don't care what else goes on in the discord, long as I get people to play paragon.

>>154662065
Hey Steve how about you fix travel mode already

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>>154662232

We're making progress at a steady pace.

>>154662110
well that is what is getting done in the second one
the 2nd one is for actual discussion and game play
I rather have an actual discord for the thread rather than fake toddposting

>>154662913

We've been playing in Steve's Church every day on voice.

Have not once seen anyone use the voice channel in Mondo Burger, and without voice you might as well just solo queue.

>>154662913
>toddposting

Steve would never lie to us.

Also, discussing the Kingdom of Heaven without acknowledging the Messiah is exactly what the Jews do. You don't want to be a Jew, do you?

>>154663169
Oh yea, who with?

>>154664217

Tyrone told me not to use names here.

>>154664409
Tyrone is a bitch. Spill the beans on your butt buddies

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>>154662110
>The second discord is a ghost town. I don't care what else goes on in the discord, long as I get people to play paragon.

>>154610630
I thought it looked good on the ps4 goddamn.

>>154666886
Unreal Engine 4 at full power is a sight to behold.

>7 new characters since the last time I played this game

And I don't know any meta shit either, time to ruin games.

>>154668894
There is no meta.
faggots will say there is, but you can play any hero in any role and win easily.

>>154669107

t. bronze league

>>154669107
Please play dekker caster so I can laugh at you doing no damage and being squishy as fuck

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This discord server is clearly for orwell and his friends, don't know why he's trying to make it the /official/ paragon discord

>>154670152
Lmao baby feels left out?

>>154670584
Put your trip back on

>>154670152
>don't know why he's trying to make it the /official/ paragon discord

I'm not. I never was. Never called it "official", never called it a "paragon discord", never implied either.

Stop being autistic and use whatever you want. We play Paragon every night in there, on voice chat, and I'll keep posting the link to let people join. Not everyone spergs the fuck out about discussion not being about one thing 24/7.

>>154670859
Ikr I played with a couple people on discord it was alright

>>154670859
And this is a thread dedicated to the discussion of Paragon.
Not for tripfags to discuss their personal lives. go blog about it somewhere.

>>154671353
You brought it up dude. Fuck, you're insufferable. Do you act like this in real life?
I pity anyone forced to interact with you

>>154671353
Speaking Of The game we are supposed to be playing Lt is amazing HOLY SHIT

>>154671353

The only remotely off-topic thing I've posted in these threads is just replying to your bullshit.

>>154671731
Why did they drop the ball so hard with drummerboy?!?!

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>>154671767
why do you shitpost here when you barely play the game

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>>154672134

Epic.

https://agora.gg/profile/Ubermenschkind;season=0

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>>154672134

Simply Epic.

http://fury.gg/profile/ubermenschkind

>>154672342
>look at how much I USED TO PLAY THE GAME
>stop looking at stats from the last month!!!11

>>154672613

I'm done with you.

>>154672071
hmmm Well in concept hes not a bad idea i wouldnt doubt if they buff him and we have a another Khaimera
Buffs that would be pretty cool is the Movement Speed isnt just on the ground but follows him

>>154672960
As well To that his health regen should give a flat amount of health in the circle then regen if

>>154672931
Ow the edge

Good job single handedly killing the general. With you around it won't be up in a week, let alone alive.

>>154674858
Underage pls go

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>>154675025
>>154674858
>>154672931
>>154672613
>>154672610
>>154672342
>>154672134

How do I build memeblast
2ad
2as
1pen
1 def
felt weak as shit compared to murdoch/sparrow/grim

>>154677510
Attack Speed Damage and funny enoguh life steal

>>154677510
TwinBlast got nerfed pretty hard the last couple patches. Do what >>154677726 said.

I don't get the vibe against Lifesteal. It's not ludicrous like it was before, but it still gives carries and high-damage heroes the best extra sustain in lane. It recovers much more than stacking the same amount of Health Regen, which imo the stat-per-point is too low for.

You need either Lifesteal or Health Regen in a full build if you don't want to constantly base at end-game, and Lifesteal is just the better choice for a high-damage hero.

>>154678898
>retard has retarded opinions
whoda thunk

>>154678898
Lifesteal is still generally unexplored as a stat. The last couple times it's been looked at, it was underwhelming, and carries are wary about giving away their damage for some sustain. It's not like crit, which was constantly cited as a major problem during closed alpha (it allowed Murdock to literally 2- or 3-shot pepoe), was nerfed into the ground and is now verifiably the worst stat in the game.

>>154679489
>Lifesteal is still generally unexplored as a stat.

>before the lifesteal nerf every non-shit carry had lifesteal in their build

>>154679489

Say I put 8 pts into Lifesteal, giving me 20% of my basic attack returned to me as health. Say my basic attack does 250 damage at full build.

That's 50 health granted per basic, which scales with attack speed also.

That's a metric fuckton more than health regen is going to give you if you're consistently attacking things, as you should be.

>>154679750

Lifesteal also scales with crit, and back before the crit nerf you could hit for over 800 damage per basic.

>>154679969
You still can

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>>154679778
Which is part of why Khaimera is such a menace: he has lifesteal baked into his kit.

>>154680049
You can, but the investment required to compare with old crit values is too much. Crit functions the same as it always has, but they've made it terribly inefficient to get. That's how you balance in Paragon: don't change the mechanic itself, but rather change how you acquire that mechanic.

>>154680052
I've only just noticed Khaimera is black.

>>154680052
Its not even that he has a good gap closer that combos well with his ult and his speed passive combos well with his health regen

>>154680052

It's not lifesteal; it escalates your health regen per basic, but it doesn't relate to the damage of your attacks.

I still put 8 pts of Lifesteal on Khai because I just can't see any use for health regen on anything but pure tanks.

>>154680270
Nah, he's more red than black.

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>>154680281
Khaimera has massive burst and just enough sustain to make him legitimately deadly. I'll come right out and say it: Khaimera may be a fighter, but he's a better assassin than Kallari.

So should I build damage on Belica or what? There's nowhere to find damage scaling for her abilities, and Epic is calling her a support.

>>154681035
after im doing my game ill post my build

>>154681035
She can be a damage caster or a support, just the same as Gadget can be a damage caster or a "support." She was originally characterized as a burst caster, so go ahead and build damage on her.

>>154670152
I completely agree with you, yesterday these faggots where playing another game in his "official" Paragon Discord. I used to wonder why people hated tripfags so much but I found my answer
>>154671689
see
>>154670808

I think just taking taking off your trip would be a good first start, really don't see why you need to do this in an ANONYMOUS image board, my friend.

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>>154681035
Here you go my friend

Would Lifesteal be good on sparrow was opposed to just putting armor on?

>>154682405
Sparrow hits hard she really isnt supposed to hit alot but you can try but she really just needs damage because of how much she scales

>>154682084
Remind me what those cards do? I know Eldermage Amulet (+health) and Pendulum of Lords (+CDR), but I don't know any of those Order cards.

>>154682638
I build her on speed & attack and one card of armor

>>154683014
C Diamond
damge health regen and mana

E Diamond
Damage mana regen and health

Latern of Spring
AD armor energy pen and cd

Tempus pearl active
Speed boosto and energy armor and damage

>>154683285
I Tried that but it just did seem like i was doing much you can really switch the tempus pearl for really anything and like a whirling wand

>>154681740
Nowhere is it stated that is the official Paragon discord

Neck yourself you faggot

game is so DOA

just like like the new UT will be

Sorry the tempus was for >>154683014

>>154683285
armor isnt that bad if you get one of the order ones

>>154684182
I use this one for armor, since it allows me to split on attack and offense
https://agora.gg/card/b16036e3f32a9f08c80d0cab45b32b49

>>154683285

I feel like maxing out attack speed on Sparrow is the most sensible thing to do

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oh look another game I can try ou-
it's a moba

>>154684597
Yea but I feel like Im just way to squishy, trying to add something that allows me to survive if even for one more sjhot

>>154684812
Lmao fucking ebin post bro

>>154684075
Its already out with 1 mill player base.

>>154684557
That's a great card if you have the twin version of it put it in your deck for situational

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>behind in game while playing grim. but me and team manage to get three people after they get two inhibs
>we immediately all go for orb
>I kill Orb Prime, the two scragglers show up, kill them, flee from the first person to respawn
>literally at the stairs to the orb turn in to get our inhibs back
>freeze
>hope desperately it'll unlock soon, friend in discord says he froze too so theres a chance.
>his game unlocks, mine doesn't
>the game is already over by the time I restart

>>154685849
You mean the energy version? Yea, I do have it both in my deck

The travel mode triggering after being out of combat for a little while seems like a nice change. Do you backpedal at the same speed as running forward? Feels like it, but I'd like to be sure.

I have 84k rep, the most value for that would be buying the 10k 5 random card packs, right? Also why do I have the master challenges for Iggy & Scorch + Greystone? I don't remember buying Iggy's and Greystone wasn't even in the game last time I touched it.

I only played a bot game, but the game feels a lot better than the last time I played it. Seems like there are a lot more premade decks for characters too which is nice, though I do know they won't compare to a custom deck once I learn some more about the game/unlock good cards.

>>154686983
Travel mode is cancer and ruins any semblance of strategy

>>154686983
>Do you backpedal at the same speed as running forward? Feels like it, but I'd like to be sure.

Yes.

>I have 84k rep, the most value for that would be buying the 10k 5 random card packs, right? Also why do I have the master challenges for Iggy & Scorch + Greystone?

Yes. Don't spend rep on anything but 10k card packs and weeklies.

You got those MCs because you redeemed a code in Early Access that included them as well as access to the game. It was called the "Battle Pack".

>>154687228

Correct. Absolutely no strategy in the game. Just random retards running into each other like American football, which also has no strategy. I have 20,000 hours in Dota 2.

>>154687353
How am I wrong? Retards can just leave lane and towers open thanks to travel mode letting them immediately return

Same with people pushing too far

You need to calm down with the toxic replies

>>154687904
Tripfags can't calm down. He feels like he owns the thread and is entitled. Literally killing the general

>>154686673
Yeah its a great card pair to have on any growth ad

>>154687230
Ah guess they gave this battle pack thing to the alpha testers too, that's nice of them.

>>154687904

It's a problem but spewing hyperboles like "ruins any semblance of strategy" is defeatist. You just have to capitalize on the time you do have to push an empty lane or evade an incoming gank.

>>154688209
Just filter them. makes the thread an actual paragon discussion then

>>154688512
Regardless, I wish they would hurry up and remove it like they want.

Feels silly to continuously play with a mechanic the devs are fully intending to remove

Also if anybody mains Grux get a cup of the vampire

>>154688717

If they simply removed it without any other changes as the game is now, it would be unplayable and I would fall asleep walking back to lane from spawn. The map is massive. They need to figure out a consolation system that works.

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>>154688812

>>154688981
>>154688812
Makes you think...

Any of you guys play on PS4? I find PS4 players more than PC ones.

>>154690148

Most people play on PS4. I was on PS4 for 200 hours before evolving. A few guys in the Church of Steve Discord are on PS4 and play with the rest of us on PC.

Apart from intermittent frame hitches and less reliable KBM controls, the PS4 experience really is similar to maxed-out PC.

>>154690496
Also, a fair chunk of the strongest players in the world play on PS4.

>>154690148
I play on ps4

>>154694023
BUMP

Does it matter who last hits in this game

>>154695665
To a point. If you ahve 2 people in a lane, the last hitter gets full rewards and their partner gets the immediate rewards as well. If you have more than 2 the last hitter gets full and the 2nd and 3rd get half.

If no one gets the last hit, no one gets the extra amber and xp.

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>>154695665
Depends on how many people are in your lane.

If you're in the jungle, only the last-hitter gets credit, so don't starve your jungler by "helping" them.

>>154695795
>>154695837
Thanks

>>154695795
>>154695837

These rules apply to minions. For enemy hero kills, the full bounty pays out to the killer and, additionally, a fraction of that bounty is dropped on the ground and pays out to the whole team when collected.

People rarely trip about kill-stealing, though, so it doesn't really matter.

So how many fighters should a team have? Or junglers for that matter?

I really want to learn Grux but everyone always picks khaimera and jungles so I don't want to fuck the team comp with my rhino bro

>>154697217

One jungler, only. Grux should be a capable laner. Tri-melee comp is bad.

>>154697217
No one's really gone for the solo-lane fighter yet, since they inevitably get poked out by whatever ranger or mage is in the lane opposite. If there's a fighter, especially Khaimera, assume they're in the jungle.

Kallari a shit.

>>154697483
Some can do it though

As above said, Grux is a great solo laner, he can push creeps with pull+swipe and if the enemy hero happens to be in the way, guess who's taking a shitload of damage. If he pushes the creeps to the enemy tower he just runs into jungle, takes a camp or two and comes back

Kallari is a new and interesting solo laner, she's squishy but she can actually bully people out of lane with her cheap stealth. Very rare the enemy solo lane is going to have wards early so you just pop invis every time it's up and go smack the enemy laner on the ass for a ton of damage. Use dagger for last hits/harass as needed

Greystone is often said to be a good solo laner as well but honestly I've gotten completely shit on by Grux with him multiple times, starting to think Grey is just obsolete ;( but the idea is you can build his passive and basically just take anything the enemy throws at you.

>>154696607
So it's beneficial to never last hit as a support, or anything but a carry? Even if you are the only one in the lane at the time?

That way you will feed your cxp into your carry who is across the map.

>>154698354
>>154606715

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>>154698467
Wait, what? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>154698736
Oh wait, is dropped cxp only global when it was a hero that's killed?

I thought it counts for minions too.

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>>154698876
Fuck no, dude. Amber from minions only applies to whoever is in the immediate area. That'd be obscene if every last hit from every lane was feeding the entire team.

>>154698423
I've not seen a solo Grux yet (although I've seen Grux+Muriel), and solo Kallari sounds like suicide.

>>154698423
>Very rare the enemy solo lane is going to have wards early
are you fucking retarded?

>>154699085
>That'd be obscene if every last hit from every lane was feeding the entire team.

HotS has global XP and no last-hitting (except with certain hero-specific abilities).

Is mana regen worth carding over mana ever?

>>154699685
No, it's a shit stat along with hpregen

>>154698423
I only solo lane Greystone and he's capable of doing it with some minor hiccups. I usually build him as a tank early on so I can sustain in lane but the issue with this is that I have double digit damage until I get to 50 CXP, it's awful. I'm still trying to find that balance between a tank and a damage dealer but yeah, he's pretty good solo lane, you'll just have some trouble pushing your lane.

>>154699894
2 tank items
4 damage items
this is the current meta

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What's the difference?

>>154700159
one's order only.

>>154700243
So it's shittier?

>>154700159
The one on the right is neutral, and the one on the left is of the Order affinity, meaning only Order heroes can use it. Right now, there's no significance for using one or the other, but that could change.

>>154700609
No. They're both valid.

>>154700740
>but that could change.
Would be really cool if they added tiny differences to the cards, can easily make it thematic too
Order health gives slightly less health but a bit of armor, Growth health gives slightly less health but some regen, etc

>>154702187
I can only imagine that they planned to have interactions for char types and the cards they use like characters using the right card type would get an added boost, but somewhere along the way they thought that would be too complicated so they just scrapped it to "put something else in later".

>>154702187
The issue with that is the core conceit of the card system: you can only slot upgrades that match the stats already on the card. If a card doesn't have health Regen, you can't slot a health Regen upgrade.

>>154698423
Kallari's dagger is especially good. You can use it to get a few last hits early on and pick up some damage for even easier last hits. Then whenever the other laner thinks they're going to harass you for 30-40 damage a hit you just chunk them for 140+ damage every time your dagger is off cooldown. But maybe it's because I'm still at the level where a lot of teams thinks it's smart to have 3-4 warriors and then Gideon/Gadget.

>>154699669
HotS is a way different game because (after the rebalance) you only get like 2.5-3x as strong over 20 levels. A team that's 4 levels ahead isn't really doing much more damage, they're just fighting better than your team.
Card points are crazy different and even if you're just 6 points ahead that could be 120 points of armor, 32 damage, or 700hp difference. It's way more brutal because killing an enemy every time they're up, losing almost 2 minutes each time, you can get like 7-8 levels over them and turn it into a 5 v 4 game.

Why is Epic so jewish about deck slots?

Every character should get 1 free one, with more costing extra. What the shit is this 5 deck slot for the entire cast nonsense?

>>154704323
Gotta make money somehow.
It's decent.

>>154704323
This, I can agree with.

>>154680052
Did u guys know that he is human

>>154705020
Yea he's my least favourite hero, design and gameplay

>>154704323

Play the game for more than 2 seconds and you'll have more deck slots than you'll ever actually use.

I have 15 just from fixed level rewards and I'm considering spending 15k on an extra one just to make it even on the deck screen.

>>154696607
>People rarely trip about kill-stealing, though, so it doesn't really matter.
Nah, I've got that plenty.
It's also the reason playing support sucks, assists gets nothing.

>Play my first PvP game
>1 guy goes afk early on into the match
>Another one stops playing half way into the match
>One guys feeding pretty hard
>The match last over an hour
>We won

Feels alright man

>Khaimera
>balanced

pick one and only one.

>>154709357
Yea he's easily the best

does paragon ever do staff streams showing off new chars or shit like that? Or is it all blog posts? I like to see when shit goes wrong.

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Are there any meta or commonly used active cards?

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>>154703250
>The issue with that is the core concept of the card system
Make an exception
It's not exactly too late to make changes like that.

>>154713002
>does paragon ever do staff streams showing off new chars or shit like that?

Yes.

>>154713474
using it on muriel is fun

Is there any reason to wait for a harvester to be full before you collect?

>>154714703

No.

If it's not at least half full though, it's probably not worth your time in getting there.

>>154716426
I agree, I just see everyone on my team walk by harvesters that are only like one or two ticks from full and I go get them. I never got scolded but... Yeah, figured I should ask. Thanks.

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>Belica mirror matches all fucking day
>mfw trying to midlane

>>154700159
Well you have more of that kind of card. I only have one universal greater health but i have like 4 of the order ones. My order heros have more health than the non order ones
kill me

HOLY SHIT WE ALREADY GOT THE HERO RACE DONE

>>154717092
oh wait only the 10k

>>154696564
Why are the golbin and dekker looking at eachother like that

>>154696564
Is TB about to set that bitch's hair on fire?

>>154718302

>when you haven't been obscenely overpowered in 6 weeks

My game is always suck infinitely loading right when I open it. It won't ever go past this picture with it's shit aspect ratio. Does anyone know how to fix it? I verified my game before I even first launched it.

Grux is fun.

What's the best way to build him? Is assassin viable?

>>154722452
get cup of vampire

>friend lets me use his PS4 account that he's not interested in
>tons of free master challenges and a 10 day XP boost
neat. I mean the XP boost is useless but still, cool.

What are must haves for a Tank Rampage? I have the plate for Physical with 2x guards and one greater health plus tuner with minir barrier and barrier with greater health at the end. I choose my first card by what's on lane with me. But what are other must haves?

>>154717367
Why wouldn't Iggy be entranced by swimsuit Dekker?

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>>154719460
>After all the nerfs, I...I just started eating.

Remember, this is a guy who may or may not be affiliated with Agora's equivalent of the Triads.

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feng is the based hero

What's a good hero to stomp with on my original account that I made the terrible mistake of playing on when I was learning the game? I was thinking grux or khai naturally but they're instapicks so it's not gonna happen unless I get firstpick. I was leaning towards murdock, or iggy.

Reason i'm asking is I only have a few thousand rep and don't play these heroes at all, I main dekker and gadget and don't have the cards for either, but it's much easier to get good decks set up for iggy and murdock for example.

So, who should I roll with?

>>154726375
Murdock if the team looks good, Iggy if you don't trust your team at all to help you.

>>154713002
They occasionally do streams, though that's more of a special "state of the game" thing than anything.

>>154713002
>>154728741
they stream like Monday at 10am EST or some random ass time

the stream is twitch/playparagon

also they upload vods like a day later here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfKNiPIbwAnl8eRZq6ZsJIA/videos

Ded

>>154717367
You just know

This seems kind of cool.

But is it?

What are the odds it will actually be supported?

>>154731429
Actually I just saw screenshots of it. Mother of god that UI. Explains why they hide that shit in their promotional caps.

>>154731429
Paragon is currently one of Epic Games' three big projects, the other two being Unreal Tournament and the Unreal Engine itself. They're not going to drop Paragon anytime soon, not with the marketing and support they've been doing.

So when are we getting the following

1. Actual health numbers, just a green bar with black lines doesn't tel me much
2. Jungle nerfs, nonstop farming nets you wayyyy too much card power and exp compared to staying in lane
3. More rewarding harvester gameplay, attacking/gathering harvesters is really shit, you get about 2 minion last hits worth of CXP to the entire team after 3 minutes? Fucking really? Even less than that for killing (FULL) enemy harvesters for whatever reason.
4. Hero rebalancing - Why does riktors hook have similar range to gruxes teamwide pull on a longer cooldown? Shit like that is gonna kill this game

>>154733458
A fully stacked harvester provides 330 CP. Also, when you attack an enemy harvester, you get ALL the CP currently stored in it.

>>154734183
>A fully stacked harvester provides 330 CP
which is 2 fucking last hits in lane

>>154735506
For the entire team.

>>154736692
you act as if this is significant

The enemy grux running around sticking his dick in peoples throats is giving his team more global CXP then someone running around harvesting harvesters

>>154736757
The jungler passes by it while jungling and gives everyone CXP. There is literally nothing wrong with it.

>>154736859
>There is literally nothing wrong with it.
Tedium when it should be passive gain

>>154737192
Harvesters are the replacement for passive gold gain. It's part of how Paragon separates itself.

>>154717092
how does it work, anyway?
everyone gets it? when?

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>Heres 10k rep!

>by the way you can only get rep by playing matches

??

>>154738040
It's a promo event; don't read too much into it. They say that because Reputation is the only currency used to buy card packs, the only out-of-game purchase that has a gameplay impact.

>>154738131
>Can use real money to triple the amount of reputation you get by playing the game
>This is ok

>>154738259
You still have to actually win your match for the booster to take effect.

>>154738318
Timed boosts give it to you regardless of win or not

>>154738259
nobody argues that the game is pay2grindquicker

some people consider pay2notgrind/grind quicker being a different thing than pay2win but it depends on the purpose.

I consider pay2grindless a much smaller negative compared to paying players buying advantages free players can't access.

>>154738489
>paying players buying advantages free players can't access.
iggy buying boosts so he can spam corruption cards till he gets tainted magic is pretty pay2win though

>>154738557
There's no guarantee Iggy will get that card. Besides, part of the building experience is making due with the cards you have. All the default decks are perfectly serviceable.

>>154738657
>All the default decks are perfectly serviceable.
I really really hope you aren't talking about the preset decks you can't delete

>>154738557
But it's not exclusive to paying players only.

They're simply more likely to acquire it quickly.

I don't consider League of Legends champion system as pay2win either, just another form of pay2grindless.

The distinction between the two is largely subjective anyway.

>>154738835
I dunno. I don't think there's any bigger impact on gameplay experience than not having access to all champions. Which is why I like Paragon or any other games that provide all heroes for life, whether for free or at some nominal fee. SMITE's Ultimate God Pack was - and still is - one of the best deals in all F2P gaming.

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Really wish they would consider letting us "Assign" 2 Attributes to a hero when we are making a deck. It would expand more on the deck building and it wouldn't really make the game anymore imbalanced than it already is

>>154739371
Can't you already filter your cards by specific stats?

>>154739528
You can't use a corruption card on a growth/order character

>>154739665
Which is perfectly fine. There would be no purpose to the affinities if you could slap them willy-nilly on any hero you want.

>>154739736
>I enjoy having less choices and depth
>I enjoy developers shoehorning me into less choices
Retaining the "Two affinities per hero" (I think twinblast still only has Fury" would allow greater customization and less restrictive gameplay.

Why should kallari who already has an infinite stealth be allowed to buy a card exclusive to corruption that grants her stealth on kill?

>>154740006
Affinities are still in a nascent state. Right now, they're only used to govern what cards are available to your hero. There may be more implementations of them down the road.

>>154740006
>They should get rid of all classes in Hearthstone and make all cards generic.
>They should remove colors in MTG and make it all colorless

>>154740006
Just like they have Strength/Agility/Intelligence heroes in Dota it's clear the devs plan to include available cards to each heroes as a form of balance, regardless of the current state of balance.