/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

>>154493601
Last thread: >>154115163

Typo

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Well fuck, other thread died while I was tracking down and exploring... whatever the fuck is going on here.

>see in legends one of the vaults had "become embroiled in a dispute over territory" with a hamlet
>go to the hamlet and ask about the area
>pow, there's the vault
>head over there expecting to hack my way into some sweet metal gear and a slab
>some asshole demon accidentally a volcano

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>>154494190
shiet.

>>154494190
I'm new and r u ded

How to raise number of dwarves at embark?
Using DFHack's startdwarf just caused errors.

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Welcome back /dfg/

How do I make my military dwarves spar?

All they do is individual combat drills and dodging demonstrations. Neither of which improves their armor user skill.

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Hey guys heres a sketch of a dwarf. Im an infrequent drawfag so feel free to flame.

>>154496806
nice drawing, he strikes me as a warrior, he's got a sort of samurai vibe going on too

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>>154494190
looks like that vault can be yuor angle or your devil

Any cool ideas for what to do with a magma pool in the caverns?

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>>154496606
>armor user skill
This pisses me off so much!
I wish I could make their Armor User skill go up over time simply by wearing the armor around and fucking sleeping in it 24/7. (at slower pace then actually wearing it in combat ofc)
But noooooo. Instead I have a team of legendary fucking axedwarves that are literally a bunch of pineapple cans sitting in a stockpile and moving 1 meter per hour when they need to respond to an attack.

So, Toady has 3 events this month, right?
Can anybody tell me where each one, dont remember to have read it on the forums

>>154496606
I think you must cross a certain skill treshold before they start sparring.

>>154494570
Nope, I came up on it from the south over the ridge thankfully, waited a while until the magma cleared enough and was able to get some loot, left the slab down in there though, would have to swim through magma to reach it apparently.

>>154493601
This OP gives me cancer

>>154495114
Please respond, I really want to make some sort of dwarven hive/nest/commie fort, I have a thing for expansion, I guess.

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>>154497314
Check out the September report. He went to a dev panel on the 1st, and some indie game event in Korea a few days after... then there's a roguelike celebration thing coming up on the 17th. Dunno if any of them are recorded though.

>>154498869
dumb toadyposter

>mfw I think I've killed everyone

nob here

What dfhack plugins people use and which are considered cheating?

I'm thinking of autohaul and workflow.

>>154495114
>>154498793
I believe you can use the migrants-now function in dwarfhack to force early migrant waves.

You can't pick their skills but it's still more bodies early on.

>>154498793
If startdwarf didn't work for you then you don't. Just wait for migrants.

>>154499903
Thanks.

Seriously, is Toady going to fix migrants being so skilled? It makes no sense for them emigrate with their families when they could hold a job in larger cities.

>>154499779
It's single player, use whatever the fuck you want.

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>>154498416
I guess they inject some html tag inside long words, which breaks backward compatibility with everything that doesn't completely support HTML 5 (and a lot that does).

I didn't notice until after the thread was made.
You have only yourselves to blame for driving me to it.

>>154500290
Why doesn't it make sense? Just because you have skills doesn't mean your current town needs them. Maybe you're a clothier and your town already has enough clothiers.

>>154500304
I don't want to go against the spirit of the game.

>>154500481
There's a link at the bottom of the OP to a fresh copy that wouldn't have that problem.

How to play adventure mode? Haven't played in like 3~4 years and I can't find any cool shit to kill. This new quest/conversation system confuses me.
nobody knows where anything is

>>154500716
Pastebin link hasn't been updated in almost two years.
Also, pastebin is for fags who like dos newline mangling.

>>154501163
...No, I keep the pastebin updated, actually.

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I'm a dumb ass

would this cause the brew 10 drinks from plants order to fire whenever the manager checked that my booze store has less than 20 drinks in it?

I don't know who made that dwarf fortress spotify playlist, but it is pretty comfy.

What are you listening to right now /dfg/?

>>154501163
>hasn't been updated in almost two years
You mean almost two threads? Seriously, OPFAG gives us a notification every time it's updated.

>>154502104
link the spotify

>>154496954
Thanks mate. Yeah, I went with the classic grouchy dwarf look. I've tried going into detail with helmets and stuff, but the designs always look pretty bad.

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>>154502215
Yar, I remember it being updated just a couple weeks ago.

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>make a trap for a web FB
>a nice shiny row of doors for him knock down
>bridges to seal him in
>a dwarf locked in with the levers
>open the trap
>FB is coming
>bugbats appear on the map
>FB spends weeks chasing bugbats around the cavern instead of pathing in my trap
>no end in sight

I fucking hate bugbats.

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[oscillates internally]

>>154504265
What's wrong?

>>154504803
Nothing really. It's just annoying to have to designate more bedrooms

>>154504881
>not having the bedrooms ready ahead of time
Good way to leave the miners and carpenters occupied too.

64bit dfhack when

>>154500587
Yeah, but all the time? I really need some expendable peasants.

>>154505626
in my opinion, anyone who isn't a weapon or armor smith is expendable.

>>154502001
Unless you specify further ("i: change item type"), "items" is any item. Those five hundred or so crafts you plan to sell? they're items, and prevent you from brewing right now.

Press "p: add conditions from products" for drink and seeds conditions, delete the seeds one and modify the drink one.
"r" would do the same for reagents (plants and food containers), if you wanted to limit the number of plants left for food or something

>second time playing
>have stable population of 32
>migrants have arrived
>total pop is 69 now

Th-thanks. Anything I can do about this? I quit right after because I didn't want to deal with it

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>>154505198
Right after Toady releases the first part of the artifact update.

>>154509276
Change the init files so that your population cap is lower, you'll stop getting migrant waves (after the first two hardcoded ones) once you hit the cap.

Alternatively make a tiny danger room, put them all inside it via burrows and start pulling levers until only the strongest survive.

>>154509276
Nothing unusual about that.
Put them to work. Expand your industries, get your military up to snuff, dig deeper. The game doesn't really start until that big 3rd migrant wave.

Armok calls for wetwork and we answer it

No greater good, no just cause.

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I've made a terrible mistake

>>154514313
[marking for slaughter intensifies]

>>154514512
Will I even get anything from slaughtering poults, or should I just cage them until they grow?

>>154514313
How's fps?

>>154514794
It's manageable.

>>154501376
>>154502215
>>154503258
Didn't realize the pastebin date is the date of original upload rather than date of the last edit.

>>154514783
You'll only get a skull. Cage them until adulthood.

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>>154496806
That's actually quite good

>>154517072
>Cage them until the pressure plate is activated
FTFY

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>>154517402
I recognize that tile.

>>154514512
Nah chuck em in a pit

>>154517402
da fug happened there

>>154496954
Katanas added when

>>154520980
Looks like a dwarfwash.

>>154521137
Only if it had an advanced construction process like

U-M-Q
"Fold Steel"
Repeat 1000 Times

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>>154499779
>nob here
There had better not be xenos in my general.

>>154520980
>>154521267
It's a dwarfwash.

>>154521468
fuck right off
does this look like 40k general?

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>>154521819
Sounds like a serious case of heresy.

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My guy must look pretty damn badass.

>>154522582
>teeth widely spaced
>2/3 missing
>obese
>stump for one leg and one arm
jesus christ
west_virginia.bmp

>>154522035
Sounds like a serious case of retardism.

>>154521316
Honestly that would be broken as fuck since by the time you were done with it you'd have a legendary weaponsmith

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>>154493601
It's that time again

Post your honest representation of your self.

How does reputation work? Does it just effect the people in the civilization you told stuff to?

>>154524850
>again
It has never been, nor will it ever be, that time. If you want to wank over your DF self-portrait you can do it without pretending it's a thing in the general. Also
>inb4 intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor

>>154525095
Pretty much. Other people also spread rumors for you, and if you pick up a pair of companions they'll occasionally tell people stories of your heroism or villainy inbetween harrowing tales of having been attacked by a raven.

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>>154524850
>finds the ideas of independence and freedom somewhat foolish

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THESE THINGS COME OUT OF NOWHERE.

And man, they're just so fast.

Is there anything at all I can do with the corpse of a giant?

>>154528853
Better start cranking out some helms.

>>154529220
nope

>>154529447
Do they go right for the head, or do you just mean in general?

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uhoh

>>154529920
I'm pretty sure they always try for the head, at least at first. In my experience metal helms reduces your fatality rate by a shitload against GCS's

>>154529920
All creatures will go for the head of a helpless enemy. AFAIK helpless only means unconcious or webbed. So GCS will usually be attacking the head, assuming they got some webs out first.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Giant_cave_spider
> If you see a giant cave spider in adventurer mode, an announcement, "You've spotted a Giant Cave Spider!" will appear.

Bloody lying wiki

>>154530249
>All creatures will go for the head of a helpless enemy.
Good to know.

>>154530220
I'll make a mental note of this.

>>154530131
I'm not sure if running is an option, at this point.
Fight, or flight?

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>>154530131
>punching the leg

>>154530131
>>154530592
>The giant cave spider has died of old age.

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>>154530731
I have him right where I want him

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>>154531272
Used my elite dodging skills to hop away, then waited for him to get closer.
He did, but I guess he's more afraid of me than I am of him.

>>154531272
Note: setting yourself on fire will not help burn the webs off faster. I don't know why I tried that before setting the spider on fire, I am not as smart as I sound occasionally.

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> You attack the giant cave spider but He jumps away!
Are these things always so jumpy? He jumped away again after relevant image.


>>154532161
Good thing you told me this before I tried it.

>Other bug fixes/tweaks
>Attackers will remove armor from unconscious opponents if it is blocking attacks

It's a good thing GCS don't have hands.

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>oh boy, a strange mood!
>possessed
>ignores home-grown gold and dolomite in favor of imported cheaper stuff

Anyone want to try predicting it? So far I've gotten a wooden blowgun decorated with two types of wood and a bone bracelet decorated with bone. At least this one has six ingredients, even if some of them are annoying.

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>>154521316
That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Short sword" bullshit that's going on in Dwarf Fortress right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a short sword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a dwarf wearing full adamantium armor with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better raws in the game. Here are the raws I propose for Katanas:
[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_KATANA]

[NAME:katana:katanas]
[SIZE:400]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[TWO_HANDED:40500]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:35500]
[CAN_STONE]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[ATTACK:EDGE:10000000000:400000000000:slash:slashes:NO_SUB:1250000]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK:EDGE:50:200000000:stab:stabs:NO_SUB:100000]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:2000000:4000000:slap:slaps:flat:125000]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:1000000:100000000:strike:strikes:pommel:1000000]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]

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>>154533404
>WeabUrist has gone stark raving mad!

>>154533186
A armor rack

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Well, I guess I can cross "start a zombie apocalypse" off my bucket list. Every one of those asterisks came from the packed necrobandit camp I found earlier, and for some reason all took off into the wilderness, I just encountered a group of 40 or so a good 10 world map tiles away and followed them back here.

>>154532494
inorite

>>154525664
Yeah, you're right, my bad.

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This went entirely better than expected (minus the death of my only friend in the world).

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>>154534371
I am slightly confused at the names.

>>154534663
A nameless creature that kills a historical figure gains a name and becomes historical itself. When that spider killed your friend it gained the name "Dumfokash", which translates to Mouthhunger. Why DF chooses to display the translated name in some contexts and the untranslated name in others is a mystery.
Incidentally, killing Mouthhungers will count as a notable kill for you, so only 4 more until the game gives you a ridiculous random title.

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You wouldn't think a single block falling one or two tiles into a pool could make this much of a mess. I just hope my dwarves don't drown.

>>154535836
>I just hope my dwarves don't drown.
Dwarfs... uh... find a way

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>>154535884
Oh dear.

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>>154533404

>>154536239
If it's a murky pool dig around the edges to lower the water level. If you're fast you can save them.

>on my way to a town
>crossing big river
>see a salt water crocodile veering toward me
>weird I think
>L at it
>it's fucking gigantic
>just barely make it out the water
>huge fight
>kill it and butcher it for 209 meat ieces

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>>154493601
So I tried to run mods for the first time in years and it turns out 64 bit raped them all to death

DFHack is out of the question. So is the rapist? dang.

Isoworld and legendsviewer work, and so does the embark / adv mode editor DFtool (which totally answers >>154495114 's request for more dorfs)

>>154496606
it's random.

after they get novice in their given weapon and I believe fighter, they'll start sparring.

>>154497295
Armor user represents knowing how to take hits with the armor and I guess knowing how to put it on properly.

>>154521819
judging by the fact there's a least 5 40k mods on production, yes

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>>154537728
Also how to move efficiently, you're slow as shit until you level it up.

how do I stop goblins from conquering everyhting

>>154538270
Remove bottom layer and they won't have their big friends anymore. Setting demon types to 0 will remove the goblins altogether, but remoring the bottom layer will just keep them from having demons.

>>154537728
It's a bit higher for sparring to start. The lower limit seems to be somewhere around proficient or talented for fighter skill, or possibly for any offensive combat skill.
As for armor user, it only affects how much armor encumbers its wearer, not how well it absorbs hits.

>>154538643
So lore wise goblins are just minor demons?

Heh. Basically every dwarf world with goblins is an apocalypse in the making.

>>154538643
Can also try removing [USE_EVIL_ANIMALS] or if you prefer them to have beak dogs and such, remove [SLOW_LEARNER] from trolls, or do what I did: give them different biome preferences. Gobs which want to settle on glaciers and avoid other things mean you get neat neighbors when you settle on them, but they don't take over the rest of the map the same way.

What are some good 16x16 tilesets? The only one i know is Raving Maniac, want some alternatives.
It would be perfect if there was 16x16 Myne, it looks good but 18x18 is kind of big.

Welp, ded.
Pulled under water by a cave crocodile and drowned.
It was random as fug.

Just how on earth do you guys get to the surface after starting an adventure mode run in a dorf fortress?


>>154535817
Oh, cool.
I had no idea.

>>154541139
I usually fly or climb

>>154541391
I haven't found any places I can climb up more than a couple z-levels that isn't a dead end.
Am I doing something wrong?

>>154539989
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository#16.C3.9716

Any way to remove the floor beneath a raised bridge? d->n doesn't work and i cannot dig/channel through them.

There is a 3 z level drop beneath those floor tiles.

>>154541607
You'll have to remove the bridge.

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The ones that can swim don't seem all that eager to get out of the pool. I'm not sure what they're doing. The one that can't swim is staying alive by virtue of the fact that I happened to have the first part of a pump stack already set up, which keeps his head above water often enough to let him catch his breath after I pumped away one tile.

Are they just going to have a pool party now? Perhaps they're going to pretend they jumped in there intentionally.

>>154541743
Damn, I am currently getting attacked by a werelizard so there doesn't seem much time. Looks I will have fight.

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>>154541524
>square
do you have asberger's

>>154529220
throw it into your monster pit for decoration

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And he was the one I most wanted to survive. It doesn't make sense how he drowned either. He spent like eight ticks in a row winded rather than drowning immediately before he died, while he had spent up to about twenty ticks in a row drowning on multiple occasions beforehand.

I must now roll a will check to not savescum.

>>154541914
Ok she fell into my trap and is caged now. Transformed back to a friendly female human. How am I going to jail her no when she is friendly?

>>154537728
>Armor user represents knowing how to take hits with the armor and I guess knowing how to put it on properly.
Then why is it being used in movement speed calculations as well, and doesn't train by doing just that, moving in it?
That's my grudge.

>>154542332
Do you know of some dark, forbidden magics to make 16x16 not square?

Apparently it's possible to assign tombs to dwarves who are already deceased now.

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>>154533775
>>154533186

>>154546487
>artifact has picture of itself on it

this happens way too much

>>154533696
Lock him in.

Is there a reason the entirety of all my cavern layers are completely devoid of plant life? They're just muddy floors with 0 trees or moss.

Is there any way for me to pick up a wounded ally in adventure mode? My companion had her knee snapped the wrong way

>>154553278
not for now, although dragging, carrying and etc. are planned features
I was gonna post the /fit/ gif where a woman gets her knees snapped up using a machine, but I couldn't find it, sorry
>>154546628
Just a 1% of all times, according to the wiki, iirc

>>154546628
it's fitting for a madman's creation

>>154554294
Thanks for the info, and I'm not upset about not seeing that.

>>154555438
It's funnier than you think, unless you browser /fit/, then you would get triggered as fuck
I also hope more actions like carrying and throwing people (where you want to throw them) get included in the game. But again, I want a shitload of completely different things added to the game, so We'll all have to wait our part, I guess

>>154556378
So is this chick going to fully heal from this injury?

>>154556998
oh yeah, seems a lot worse than it actually is, she is fully healed by now

If you, by any chance, was talking about your companion, yes, she will heal too

So, I didn't know you could actually push someone into a river and keep them underwater so they drown.
I feel half like a criminal, half completely sick for managing this

Do danger rooms still work? Been years since I last played.

>can't shoot someone when they are flying
How am I supposed to behave like a rich noble If I can't do target shooting with ducks?
We really need the ss update, roles are kinda boring atm
>specially because the only thing you can do right now is kill stuff

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>>154558234

>>154558482
It's easier to ask here than browse around.

>>154558605
>browse around
You mean visit the danger room page and be done with it

>>154558707
Yes, yes I do.

>>154558726
pls go to the rimworld general and don't come back

>>154558726
Surely you understand that it's also easier for us to tell you to go to the wiki and shitpost back and forth with you for an hour instead of answering your question.

>>154558849
Go back, you mean.

>>154558860
Reciprocation is the word of the day.

>>154558726
Okay good, you know what to do.

>>154558860
>an hour
I was hoping this could entertain me longer.

>>154558987
>I was hoping this could entertain me longer.
Don't you have games to play?

>>154559067
Multitasking.

>>154559118
Do you also fap at the same time?

>>154559163
Not at the moment. I am shitposting in 4chan and IRC, watching Isaac Asimov memorial debates and playing Rimworld.

>>154559349
I dislike you
link the debate plsyou bastard

>>154559651
They're on AMNH's jewtube.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrfcruGtplwGKzxDI_Ne06NlpOKt-yonZ

Can I give jeweler order to just cut all rough gems, do I really need to check what rough gems I have every time to assign specific cuts?

>>154561674
I think dfhack has an automator, if you're into that

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>>154493601

>>154565960
You are the only shitposter I want to see each day, until Toady finishes the game, or until I day, thanks for what you do

>>154561674
The option to cut gems will only appear for gems that you have available.

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>>154558130
I do this with bandits surprisingly often.

>>154558428
Uh, I've shot people and birds out of the air.

>>154558234
Is there point bothering with them? I did just normal training and my military doing well most of time.

>>154567496
I like having a small team of nigh-immortal rape machines reserved for those special offasions. Kind of like special forces.

Reading combat logs of them ripping shit apart is very entertaining to me.

>>154567496
They allow you to make godlike fighters effortlessly. It's fun when to send one guy to take out a siege. Forgotten beasts can wreck an ill-prepared military.

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>>154496806
Here's another one guys. I usually never do more than sketch something out in pencil, if i wanted to enhance it what should I do?

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>>154544674
it's better to just make it 16x24

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>>154568357
Comfyanon is right, 24x36 > 16x24 30x36 > 8x12 > 10x12 > 24x24 > 16x16

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>>154570036
Whoops, deleted the > before 30x36 by accident.

>>154558482
But it always lies

>>154570230
That's your fault, anon.

>>154567496
No, normal military training will give you unkillable murder machines just as easily. Danger rooms are a relic from when sparring was broken.

>>154570319
It can't be my fault, since I have no knowledge of the game to contribute.

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>>154570402
That's exactly why it's your fault! You should have the knowledge! You should fix the wiki!

What does /dfg/ think of Magma Crabs?

>>154568357
>>154570036
[vomits rectangularly]

>>154570036
Why though? Isn't Square the most correct proportion?

>>154570569
I wish Toady would make them look like crabs. atm they're crawling heads with no arms or legs.

Also make them tamable so I can have them scuttle around the fort and breathe basalt at elves.

how can i get rid of the magma sea? also, is there any way at all to get rid of semi-molten rock, outside of ridiculous cave-ins?

>>154568108
the only thing I like is the right arm of the striking dwarf, everything else is passable

>>154567317
tileset

>>154567317
I meant thrown out people
interlevel shooting amazed me when I started playing the game, and gave me a more broad view on how the tile's space worked
>Kill some bitch's son
>start running after her
>push her over a cliff
>I see her hitting the ground with her face
>climb down the hill myself
>she's no longer there, but there's a spatter of tears in the dirt

10/10,1 game Toady, only needs more deepness and complete overhaul of several mechanics, but with that out, bretty good

>>154570484
>tfw no elven gf to play with pantsu

>>154571342
That's fair. I kind of focused on the face and arm, and tacked on the rest once I decided I liked it. What could be done better in your opinion?

Why are hammers so boring to play with? Became a hammerlord then bled out in a fight with a regular goblin after killing a few hundred because "lol NO ROLLS FOR U" curse.

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>>154570792
Square tiles are limited in how they fill the screen, in fort mode it may not matter but it is nice to have the view filled with your immediate surroundings in adventurer mode, rather than a little circle with a huge spread of blackness beyond. You can only go up to 24x24 with square and no twbt before the game scales it down on a 1920x1080 monitor (or 16x16 on a 1366x768), you can use 24x36 natively (or 16x24) for better detail and screen use, and if using a set designed with it in mind you can zoom out all the way to 8x12 to get a full overview presentation if you wish.

>>154571764
>pic related

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>>154572067
Oh, yeah, it's really annoying that npcs can hit people flying through the air but we can't.

>>154570792
Additional point: your screen isn't square, so you're still choosing arbitrarily to fill it with tiled squares or tiled rectangles, but hey, I did make a version for folks with... inferior preferences because I did love 24x24 until I found how awesome 24x36 was.

>>154572279
I don't think I know that much about drawing, but faces are important
Im looking at your drawing on a separate window, and the first thing I dislike is the guy's face
it's not that the expresion is bad, but it could be better implemented
work on the mouth and eyes. Nose is fairly good, leave it like that
hairline is a little difuse, left shoulder looks disconected from the body, and the guy should be more flexed if he wanted to hit someone in that position
I like the edges of the beard, but the moustache seems a little off, don't know why
legs kinda broad for a dwarf, or an elephant
nice detail on the belt, I've heard evictedsaints is still writing 'the little cheesemaker', go check it out
>that little bulge
Oh, and the other guy's hands are atrocious, but the right one isn't that much

Hope you draw a lot more here, all in all, I like your style, pretty solemn, and the small details could be easily bettered

Could you draw some scenary, so I can see how you manage views and details?

>>154573263
Wow I wasn't expecting so much, thanks anon! I'll try take your advice into account on my next piece. I'll admit straight up I suck at scenery though, I always had more fun with monsters or people or whatever, but I'll give it a go.

>>154568108
Crease the facial features more, you started to but it looks like you stopped out of worry about realism, wrinkled forehead and scars and such are cool, go with the bits you have all the way. The left arm is too stiff, it looks like the top of a deltoid, front of a bicep/brachialis view, but then you can see an elbow and arm hair suggesting that it is super dislocated.

Look at a picture of bodybuilders working out and compare it with them posing and you'll see what I mean there, tossing some more broadness on the joints to give big treetrunk looking arms would be fine for a dorf, the right wrist is too thin for the musculature too, Ahnold had a great physique in part because of his muscle to joint proportions, but he wasn't supposed to be a stout warrior, the right forearm would be fine if it was only three fingers, add room for another and it'll be good. You've got a sense of how the hair would be moving for the action which is nice, and you can do smaller details, look at some braids and toss that into the moustache maybe?

Not really an artist myself so I can't give technical tips on exactly HOW to do this beyond a bit of shadow increase to better indicate the main light source, but I do love me some drawfags and remember the frustration of musculature and bone structure well.

>>154572541
What's the most exciting, thrilling, best weapon to Adventure with in Toady's "Dwarf Fortress 2014 (2016)"?

>>154574112
Glad to help, anything else just ask
And really, keep posting. Drawfags are valuated everywhere, and /dfg/ is not an exception, although I would trade a couple of them for some good writefags, but that's just me

>>154574325
ok hear me out.
Get yourself a bag. Not some trashy llama wool bag, some lion leather bag or better
Now strip yourself naked, and give all the clothes as a gift to a orphan on the streets
Now beat the child with your bag until he's dead
loot his corpse and put the coins in your bag
Repeat

Enjoy having a weapon that gets stronger the more you use it

>>154574692
Behold, /dfg/ at it's purest, folks

>>154575054
was that sarcasm?
I do exactly what he said, but with teeth

>>154574223
Thanks anon, I'll take your advice. I always focus on a few elements of a drawing and neglect the rest, I'll do what you said and open up some references while I draw. I've always been shit with anatomy, I suppose it's as good a time as any to fix it.

>>154576842
Yeah, you have detail and a sense of where you want it to go, just need a bit of the framework underneath lined up better, it's the only thing I was ever any good at, basically doing anatomy drawings.

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Post cutebolds.

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>>154578938
Reminder DF kobolds most likely look like pic related.

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>>154579798
Don't do this, man. ;_;

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>>154579798
Armokverse=/=Kobold Questverse

Pic related is how they REALLY look.

>>154580665
They look pretty similar, tbqh

>>154579884
man, this is cute
>>154580665
man, this is ugly

>>154580665
KQ Kobolds are motherfuckers.
They fill pits with venomous bugs and lure novice adventurers into them.

I hope DF 'bolds can one day set up cruel and unusual pit traps for your guy, since right now it feels like NPCs hate them for almost no reason... they're just so harmless, they can't even fight back when you slaughter them in their cave.
I feel like giving them horrifying self-defence measures would stop the ambiguousness that makes people sympathise with them, and it'd support their acceptance of torture for fun.

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neato

just had an enormous earthenware alligator show up in hell. gonna be really hilarious to see how the demons react. beware its webs!

>>154582850
>siege engineer novice accidentally sees forbidden catapult part

So if Dwarf Therapist for 43.05 out yet?

>>154583464
oh, sweet boy
You have to wait a bit more

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>>154583412

nob here

share optimization plan bitte for ~30 dwarves

>>154583974
1. download dfhack
2. unzip dfhack in your df directory(make sure that the dfhack version is compaitible with the df version)
3. start up df, and a dfhack command prompt will open up along it
4. load your fort
5. enter 'die' in the command prompt

>>154537728
>DFtool
Thanks, it works but only the 0.40.24 version (0.42.* & 0.43.03 spergs out about Kernel or something, 0.43.05 wants x64), but it's still cool.

>>154505860
Could agree, but it still ticks me off with all these skills I could use and these job colors.

>>154585542
I may have misread but the DFtool thread said it was 43.05 comaptible

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>>154585383

>>154586009
0.40.24 won't work with 0.43.05 DF due to misplaced pieces of code and numbers (tool dev has to aim for specific line of code via hacking tool).

Are there any big changes in the next update besides artifacts and NPC adventuring parties?

>>154588231
More consolidated family tracking, used for now only for heirlooms

>>154588231
Groundwork for them being put in place, civilization level interactions regarding them, wars over artifacts and relics, updates to temples and display cases, legends mode having a rework involving this stuff, frameworks for sending out parties from your fort into the world, various other stuff.

>>154588719
But like the next update will actually have NPC groups going around on quests right? Or will that be later?

>>154588231

World generation preliminaries
Worldgen fortress artifacts
Worldgen named weapons/armor for heroes
Worldgen holy relics
Various claims and ownership types for artifacts (heirloom, entity symbol, etc.)
Conflict over competing artifact claims
Conflict can be resolved/ties deepened with artifact gifts
Worldgen invaders loot artifacts
Worldgen thieves directed toward new artifacts
Some worldgen megabeasts seize new artifacts
Background changes
Site maps vs. artifacts
All sites should understand how artifacts can be stored
Based on entity, balance desire to display with guards/traps/etc.
Handle kobold site maps
Some buildings/items used to display artifacts (all modes)
Knowledge/rumors for artifact locations/possessors
Artifact quests and agents
Quest to retrieve, steal or otherwise obtain artifact for somebody
Quests can be taken by player adventurer or other characters
Support for the journey
Ability to present artifact (quest or not)
Recognition of where artifact is placed by player and others
Artifacts as rewards for quests
Fortress artifact interactions
Player's fort mode artifacts can be the target of artifact quests
Invaders can demand artifacts and leave with them
Ability to send a squad off the map to fetch a stolen artifact
Handle the squad's tale upon return or rumors if the squad is delayed or doesn't survive

>>154589420
now kinds of invasions? nice

Also we get the first off map fort interaction? Nice. Will squads only participate in artifact quests? No war aid or anything?

>>154590124
metal as fuck

>>154589307
>Support for the journey

What does this mean

>>154589861
where did you get these?
I want more. was he interviewed?

>>154590397
patronage, giving you food or money, or skilled warriors for the journey

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So I've apparently just been besieged by goblins, however, I can't find the goblins anywhere. What to do? I tried checking the surface entirely to no avail

>>154590513
No idea. I scrolled through all pics and content related to the event and this was all I could find. Maybe he'll post something when he gets back.

>>154590513
>>154590884
Forgot to mention it, but the pic was from the twitter page of the event:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/BICFest2016?src=hash

>>154590716
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Unit_list

>>154591061
Thanks, turns out there's only one goblin at the corner of the map

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>>154578938

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>>154590312
As it happens I recorded their battle for posterity when it happened many years ago. Tolon is the P (pterosaur), and Zimun is the D (dimetrodon).

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here's another Korea pic of Toady

>>154591631
>still using a picture of older version.

>>154590043
This will set up a first test of stuff like sending troops out to help in wars, even siege other sites.

>>154590679
Yar, I imagine it will be like the "guide me to this location" agreements except it will include "and help me fight to obtain and return the item" conditions.

>>154588231
Ah, here we go with the full list: >>154589420

>>154589307
Toady said there will be adventuring groups going around and questing, and that he was trying to make sure that they don't wipe out all the megabeasts and such during world-gen, so yeah, that'll be cool shit.

The kobolds will be nice too, I know now what it was like before the sitemaps were in, you go to a cave which says it has 2000 kobolds and centuries of loot being taken back there to find... nothing?

>>154591631
What is this event? Is it on YT?

>>154591631
>that dinky little fort
Wow, Toady is shit at his own game.

>>154592041
Well, there's no trade depot visible, and he's not using bridge airlocks or even doors.

necromancer bashing my head with a book called
>Do you know the tower?
little smug fuckers

>>154593403
It's probably more of their jerkoff fanfiction about how they were refused apprenticeship by some goblin 60 years ago.

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>>154593928
Doesn't sound so comforting when the bastard brakes your balls with it
Thank god sexual puns are not in the game, or this fucker would be joking about towers every time he saw me

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>>154593403
>>154593928

soooo
can metal slabs from a necro tower be smelted, because I would lke to get this colored metal in a fortress

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>>154594363

>>154594363
Nigga you just got yo dick smacked off, daaaaaaaang.

>>154570036
where does 12x12 fit on there
I'm trying to make one right now

>>154594363
Maybe the pages are really REALLY sharp.

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>>154594363
Fucking hell anon, it keeps escalating

Are weapon trap components actually worth it, or is it just better to fill it full of regular spears instead?

>>154599469
Yeah, they're worth it.

>>154599469
If by "worth it" you mean "worth an absolute metric fuckload of dwarfbux" then yes.
Serrated discs and spiked balls have a wealth modifier of x126. Apart from that they're just bigger, better versions of weapons except your dwarves can't wield them.

I have an FB locked in an epic struggle with a voracious cave crawler. Any way to see what the FB's noxious vapors do? I'm not seeing any obvious effects on the VCC.

Does anyone have any tips for a new player? I'm using the wiki to help me out but I still have no bloody clue what I'm doing.

>>154600180
You just have to wait for some effects to show.

>>154600326
Keep reading the wiki. If you have a question, check there before asking here.
Pause often. Loo(k) at everything. Dig deeper.

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>>154600102
>>154600172
Not even ten minutes later and your advice pays off.

Thank you anons

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>>154597924
Sorry, but it's over to the right of the 16x16, if you wanna go small, go monoscii and go truly beyond quality, though I do have this in my files, only one in there though.

ok so I have a dragon in a cage, and just got attacked by a bronze colossus. I want to make these two kill each other. How do I accomplish this?

>>154604392
Try to get the colossus in a cage

Then let them loose in an arena

>>154606145
can dragons breathe fire while in a built cage?

>>154606212
No, but it can while on a restraint.

>>154604392
Just open the dragon cage, what could go wrong?

>>154606527
>>154606379
ok now I have a goblin siege attacking me as well. Should I try to make this a 3-way brawl?

If I wait awhile, we could have a 4-way brawl, I've been capturing a lot of crundles.

>>154606984
Crundles are like scaly chickens, and they aren't interested in fighting. There is no number of crundles you could accumulate to make them an interesting 4th party to this engagement.

Had to kill of a fort that was getting boring on a peaceful embark. What should I do to challenge myself?

The goblin siege broke before I could finish the arena. We have a few options.

>Wait for the next siege and have a big 3-way brawl

>use some goblins that ended up in cage traps in a smaller 3-way

>just do 1v1 BC vs Dragon

What would be most interesting?

>>154609101
Build all of their cages in a cavern and wait for an intimidating FB to show up. If you're going to put the gobs down there as well make sure to put them close to the center, as they'll attempt to flee the map if they're ever released. Making sure they have fo get past 3 massive deathbeasts to succeed would be fun all by itself. If you can catch any other tough less-mega-beasts (think blind cave ogres/bears, jabberers, cave crocs, gcs, vcc) you could make it a real crazy brawl.

>>154610112
There's a webspitting crocodile FB on the 2nd cavern layer, but I'm not sure I can safely get the BC and the dragon down there, let alone all the goblins. I'm worried he'll path straight to me while I set up the cages.

>>154610357
Do it like this:

>dig a series of staircases to the cavern layer, but don't breach yet
>seal the stairs with hatchcovers
>dig a small hallway at the bottom of each stair leaving 1 tile of stone between the hall and cavern
>build raising bridges at the end of each hall
>build the cages in the hall
>dig last tile of each hall as close to simultaneously as possible
>lock the hatch covers as your miners return
>pull lever to open the cages
>wait for them to leave the halls
>pull lever to raise bridges
>take many screenshots

>>154610898
>>154610357

Oh, also you can use the hatchcovers to lock the miners in the halls to coordinate the breaches

>>154607493
I feel like seven hundred crundles might be interesting.

>>154612478
They'll just start flashing blue !'s and running away at 0.01 fps.

>>154612478
An interesting crundle massacre, yes.

>>154603821
eh, was planning on turning it into 24x24 once I was done. it just makes things easier converting the original 8x12 into a square set

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>when your friend doesnt like your koboldposting

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>>154614830
I think Rogue Yun did this one since the vanilla 16x16 is kinda meh on the upscale.

>>154617007

Masterwork engraving.

What do I need to know in order to succeed at building a settlement in an Evil biome?

>>154622052
Get underground and stay there, at least until you know the effects of the biome's evil weather (if any). Don't slaughter anything until you can safely determine whether it'll reanimate. Otherwise it's just like any other embark.

Wow an actual scholar migrated so I made a library and first time ever I get him making a shitload of books

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>>154622052
Be a necromancer in adventurer mode!

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>>154621875
>fleshy non-web user
>dangerous

>pass out from exhaustion/pain
>573 lines of bogeymen fucking me up
>bleed to death

>>154630014
>I hear anon died in the plains of inevitability.

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>>154630240
>in a time before time, anon attacked anon

>>154630436
>I have been awoken to the value of suicide, how exciting!

It appears that the wiki has almost nothing about adventurer-created sites. So I shall report here that being in a site does not protect from bogeymen unless you're under a roof. It does not have to be a defined room, nor does the site need to even have a name, nor do you have to have founded it with the current adventurer. However, you cannot retire at an adventurer-created site unless it has been claimed, though it doesn't have to have been claimed by you, or even anyone who is still alive. And contrary to what someone said on here maybe a week ago, it is possible to build a casket as a building and then put a corpse in it in adventure mode. It doesn't show up as "Urist Mcdead's tomb" or whatever but it at least looks right.

When a dwarf gets bitten by a werebeast, is it a 100% chance he's infected

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>>154633386
Can one of you elves put some of this up there? It seems like the wiki goes for whole release cycles without a word of the new features sometimes.

>>154633654
If the skin gets bruised, there's a 0% chance.

If the skin gets broken, there is a moderately high risk that the dorf get's infected, although I don't know how high it is.

Also, shaking damage and amputated bodyparts don't seem to affect the risk of infection at all.

>>154634341
Are the Adams brothers Jewish? Threetoe has both curly black hair and thick rimmed glasses.

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>>154619782
Thanks!

Incoming siege, Ready the cat Cannons and brace for a shortage of Dwarven Bagets!

>>154634717
Stop changing your name doood

>>154637651
he'll alway be timpukdewq in uor harts

>>154633386
first, fucking put that in the wiki. If you dont write, give me the info and I'll put it there
second, can you safely retire your adventurer in a claimed site and he'll always be found there?
>Didn't even knew camps where stored after you die
what a day to be alive

>>154638904
>Didn't even knew camps where stored after you die
Mate, the generated persistent playgrounds are the best part of DF.

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>>154639136
They're only persistent until you encounter that one weird ass bug where the ground swallows up your entire fort.

I thought I was done for but my cage traps designed to protect from the cave creatures actually finished the goblin invasion and out of 130 dwarves 7 survived, 1 a baby and one is the werechameleon who's been locked up for years. I actually wanted to release him and see how many he could kill but the goblins died before full moon.

>>154639136
I know, but camps alway striked me as temporal places, for no reason
Im sure that when the ss update hits in, camps will be able to progress to more complex places, such us outposts or even fortresses, if you manage to find enough settlers to follow you

>>154633386
Can you place a fort over a camp?how does it behaves?

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>>154639551
There's a lot of work to be done here. At least I got another migrant wave and some petitions to join

>>154640295
I do wonder why my military performed so poorly. Might be because I had many human mercenaries and no gear to fit them, and I don't think they sparred either for some reason

>>154639735
>Can you place a fort over a camp?
Haven't tried but I doubt that it acts any differently from any other site in that it just doesn't allow you to overlap sites.

>>154641421
could you please try?

>>154641757
I'm not him. If I wanted to try I'd have to do so from scratch.

hey /dfg/, would you like the dwarves have some type of 'vitality' (healthyness system) affected by their style of life (sleep, diet, exercise and vices) that affects their ability to dwelve into the world (overall energy, bonus/nerfs to leveling up atributes/jobs)
I'm trying to find a way for dwarves to age up and grow old, to not have 150 year old granpas to be exactly the same as a 20 year old lad, and adding this vitality, and making it change through the years seems to me like a versatile way to do so
Also serves as a perfect placeholder for magic and the whole medicine/health system(think about age-related illnesses)

>>154642116
Seems like it could be a possiblity somewhere down the line. It doesn't seem important enough to require its own focus arc but it definitely sounds like something that would be added as framework for later additions.

Could be interesting. Anything that adds more practical variety to dwarves is a welcome addition.

Ok lads the last I played was DF2014. Can anyone give me a quick rundown on what's new in the latest version?

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>>154643208

https://youtu.be/6VfXNYJO8nI

>>154643754
Cheers love.

>>154642495
the guy some threads ago was right, I actually got useful and thinkfull replies to my idea
After /ksg/, you might be my favourite general /dfg/, never change

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>>154644047

>>154570792
Are dwarfs square?

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My fortress just went full abstract...
What is this blasphemy?!
Magma bath for all of you!

>>154603825
But why isn't it in a cave?

>>154645678
That almost works.

>>154645806
Get ready to have your mind blown, Bomrek.
Are you ready?
Are you sitting down?

It is the cave.

>>154645806
It's probably rock hewn.

>>154644047
kill yourself

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Current fort 1/3
Yes, that's a breeding pair of War Grizzly Bears in one of the training rooms.

>guilty of following crimes:
-Tileset
-Autolabor(chop,butcher)
-Workflow
-Planning mode

>reason:
Trying out a new way to play where I automate EVERYTHING.
Every single workshop has Workflow setup, dwarves handle their food/booze production, butchering, hauling and producing without me messing about.
This lets me dedicate myself to observing them like in an ant-terrarium as they go on daily lives, interact with each other, squads go on scheduled patrols, hunt etc.
Its been pretty smooth so far, I occasionally tab back in, design new sections of the fort to be built, recruit fresh meat into squads, and let them handle the rest.