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I leave you guys alone for one night edition

>What's new?

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/game/events/machines-of-war/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20271416/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-balance-update-september-1-2016-01-09-2016
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20257011/have-a-free-hero-on-us-8-30-2016

>Starcraft maps, Alarak and Zarya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUZBAOmzBh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAXqZIBeS40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhaPVdG7fQ

>Where do I find you Chen-loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Do you have a discord?
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

>What hero should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see what types you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

Previously on /hotsg/: >>154194167
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Love your Li Li
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>>154401757
Don't forget to do your placement matches.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20271419
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20271419
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20271419
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>>154402046
Friendly reminder to always use Thrall as a wall of unstoppable elemental force.
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>>154402152
Thrall + Li Li is a great combo
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don't let it die AGAIN you stupid fucks
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post 'em
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>>154403278
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ded thred ded gme
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Place
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>>154404946
thinking blue
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>>154405272
You thought wrong
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>>154406015
i bet it was thrall's fault
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>>154406516
You'd think that, but I won a 3v1
Was actually tassadars fault since

well

tassadar
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>>154406613
I won a lot of games with tassadar in my team Maybe the problem is more
>silver

Tass does miracles when you got a good comp
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>>154406613
>implying thrall can win a 3v1
>implying he wouldn't get beat up by random lane minions
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>tfw you get the perfect Horrify off.
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so I'm new at the game, whats a decent tier list.

Is there any hero I should focus to get good at base mechanics of the game?
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>>154408035
Tank: ETC, Muradin, Johanna.
Assassin: Thrall, Li-Ming, Falstad
Support: Not Malf
Specialist: Xul, Zagara, Sylvanas.
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Alright let's make a list of features that this game needs badly:
>decent reconnect system
>gifting system
>arthas visual update
>some fucking marketing wouldn't hurt
Help me continue
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>>154408456
>people that actually know how to balance or at least play test the game.
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>>154408035
If you are on EU:
https://battle.net/recruit/CSHR7CRFW2
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>>154407279
I don't even know what happened, it was diablo, auriel and butcher vs lonely old me. They just kept walking back and forth wondering if they should engage as I poked them down
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>>154409323
>thrallpologists
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>>154407101
Yeah probably, I just know tass died a lot and the team blamed him
Also
>medivh and me vs butcher
>poke butcher down
>he chains me and slaps my shit
>medivh doesn't shield me
>I die
>butcher chargest medivh
>instantly shields himself
>tries to tele out
>dies before he can
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>>154409490
Hey, thrall was aight before catashit kicked in
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>09/10/16
dicks out for twitch
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>>154410187
what happened
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>>154402074
One can only dream
guess how many loses
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what is a good vidya OST to play in the background? i'm currently listening to UT99s and it's great
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>>154412513
9?
currently at 2/5 myself
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>>154412513
forgot pic related

>>154412752
no
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>>154410537
Couldn't open any streams. Seems to be fixed now, but it's entirely possible it dies again.
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Man, I only need 1 game more to finifh my placements at Team League

I don't even care about my ranking, I just want to mount lol

My friends and I have been memeing super hard and we are somehow 5 wins 4 losses
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>>154413008
Just play green characters. If it ain't green, it shouldn't be on your team.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>154412795
Well? what is your w/l?
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>>154408456
not features just some gripes. I wish hots didnt take the league way of balancing and stuck with the dota way. Remember when Arthas would be unkillable or Kerrigan with rewind could situationally kill 2-3 people solo or archon actually did damage and you could 1v1 people. everything just feels like youre hitting each other with pillows now
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>>154413952
We thought about doing an orc team, but the game lacks heroes for that :c

But our god Samuro will solve that
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>>154414810
fuck, kid got upset because our leader banned his pick for no reason, probably not paying attention, guess I deserve to lose for not calming him down haha ;^)
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>>154415237
So you'd rather the game be completely fucking stupid? Fucking unstoppable Thrall or Ignite Kael.

That is fucking retarded.
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>>154415590
C'mon man, for that Plantium 5, you can do it!
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>>154415712
Actually, I think I got demoted from plat5 already. Does it still count?
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>>154416119
I'm not sure at all, but the odds are against
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>>154415663
if everything is stupid, no one is
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>>154416119
>>154416612
literally read the in-game thing
it's based off of the highest rank you achieved during that season
if diamond was the best you've achieved during the season you'll get diamond rewards
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>>154416782
Gotta say the valve way is the funniest at least

Still surprised there aren't random crits in Dota 2
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I wish there were ever a reason to play Gazlowe.

This game's balance is so fucked.
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>>154417778
Gazlowe is good in Infernal Shrines and Sky Temple
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>>154416782
So everyone is god tier in DOTA2?
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>>154418092
And battlefield
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>>154418092
and bhb
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>>154417778
>>154418092
>>154419263
>>154419482
Summing up, the Turret Build (the only good one he has) is pretty effective in maps that need area control and zoning for objectives.
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>>154420485
>see Gazlowe that builds for turrets
>realize I have more than 3 brain cells
>kill turrets
>Gazlowe is completely helpless and dies in 2 secs
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>>154420485
Define effective.
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>>154421546
It makes the game end quickly due to how shitty it is.
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Man i feel proud i level kerrigan to level 10 without landing a single combo.
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>>154418164
everyone is situationally broken, yes
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Hey, I just started this game, am I wrong for having fun?
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fuck tracer
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>>154422575
No, it's a fun and mostly good game.
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>>154422575
yes, get the FUCK out
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>>154422575
Fun is what we do here. This game is not for tryhard
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>>154422575
yea pretty much

>>154422772
out fucking skilled nobody even plays Tracer anymore
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>>154422820
Thanks, I'm playing malf but he seems disliked here
>>154422830
But I like having fun, at least my fun includes winning
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>>154422772
>Thrall's lightning bolt can literally kill you through your gates with no aim or even sight required

What a good and balanced ability.
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>>154422965
/hotsg/ isn't people you wanna trust when it comes to hero choices

>>154422879
this is SUCH a good Li Li, it makes me smile every time I see it
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Any new players looking to pick up some heroes on the cheap. Target is selling the starter pack at 50% off.
http://www.target.com/p/heroes-of-the-storm-pc/-/A-21415109?lnk=abtest_searchpdp_1
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>>154423037
1. its chain lightning, not bolt
2. it has a CHANCE to do so

t. metzen
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>>154423883
t. bronzen
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I fucking love Gul'dan. Why do I have to enjoy all the characters are mediocre to bad? The only two I enjoy that are generally considered good are Lunara and Greymane.
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>>154424743
>Lunara
>Greymane (post last patch)
>good
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>>154423149
tiny Li Li is a cute
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>>154424896
haha lunara / greymane bad meem xdddd
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>>154424896
Can you be bronze somewhere else?
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>>154423883
testing revealed that it actually prefers heroes, then buildings and only bounces to minions/summons if there's absolutely no other target in range
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>Those 0 Death Zeratul games where you get 15 takedowns
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>>154427272
source of that pic?
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>>154427365
me in the pic
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>>154427513
gave me a good hearty kekle of a giggly chuckle there m8
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>>154424743
There are very few heroes I would consider complete trash. Hammer was one of them until recently because of how many new heroes counter her. Now she's pretty great

Even Malf, who is easily the worst support in the game, can be good
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>>154427679
theres only one that can be considered complete trash, fucking nova. like if she didnt have stealth, there would be no need for her to exist
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>>154422772
>gold 5 using his brain
U just got promoted to gold 4
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>>154429142
Cloud9 here I come!
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>>154429592
>Cloud9
>not Bronze 5
hotsg plz
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>>154380139
>situational
not even that, the anon you're replying to is probably stuck in the darkest depths of bronze

i practically one-trick-pony tychus and have a steady 62% winrate as him, and excluding comps with weak frontlines (which, to be fair, all assassins suffer when their team's frontline is weak), he's never truly situational
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>>154431343
All right fine, but only if we win every game due to bullshit

Oh and I've been trying to fix some new follow sound to my stream and need a good placeholder, so I was thinking you guys can give me your ideas and I'll grab the one I like the most.
Ex. Sound clip from "Always" and "name is pure harmony harmony oh love" don't judge, it's almost 5 am and I'm tired af, good ideas ain't my forte right now
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>>154432184
Agreed, Tychus is highly underrated. He can fit onto nearly any ally team comp and against most enemies. People still think he's only good against double tank; when in truth if the enemy team has a solo tank, Tychus will shred it and their backline will just fall apart.
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>>154432485
I dont understand your post. What will the sound clip be used for?
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>>154433120
Whenever someone follows my stream a sound, image and text appears
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>>154433412
Use the line, Loyalty is it's own reward from Leoric.
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So I'm gonna ride malf until I get 10,000 jew coins, who should I get, preferably a tank I guess
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Putting on my doge points on CM Punk.

He's 37. Gotta have old man strength by now.
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>>154435942
Are you lost, anon?
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>>154434489
ETC, Muradin or Johanna.
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>>154434074
Actually looked at a ton of hots soundclips and that one is definitely on the list
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>>154434489

I think it's Anub that's free pretty soon.
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>>154438000
>>154438276
Thanks for the suggestions
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How do I branch out into other roles?

I love warriors who can bully with their big dick swinging health pools and defense and set up their teams to ravage.

Arthas "Bitch you ain't going nowhere"
Muradin "Attack based assassins?, AHAHAHAH FAGGOT!"
Diablo: Professional rape wraggler
ETC: One good mosh and I influence who wins the entire game
Johan: I go wherever the fuck I want
Rexxar: Let my bear work while I cap this here point and take a fat Orge shit (WE KANGZ skin)
Chen: The fuck is damage and man? That shit ain't even real, fo' real nigga like just drank brew

Only other class I like is support because BW, Purple ass and Angel tits are fun.
Dehaka: Falstad, tank edition

I need bully champs.
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>>154439145
You've just gotta smash a bunch of games in QM or something to get used to the role. Not much else to it than that.
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>>154439145
>that paragraph summary
eugh
lay off the twitter memes son

but to answer your question, if you enjoy "play-makers" you might want to try out zeratul, kerrigan and possibly the butcher (butcher is debatable, though)
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>>154439145

You can't be more than 12 with a post like this.
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>>154439145
This is the cringiest thing I've seen on /vg/ lately. Well done.
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>>154439145
I had a good laugh. I don't know what the fuck these other anons are on about.
The tag lines that sum up the main draw of the character was informative and funny. Chan and Jo were the best, Dehaka also a chuckle.
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>>154442434
>I had a good laugh. I don't know what the fuck these other anons are on about.
birds of a feather
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>>154442434
>>154439145
samefag
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>>154442434
>>154439145
these posts were made by the same person, and coincidentally, they both are not funny or good.
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>tfw have 5 good quick match games in a row where your team worked together and won in a landslide.

What the fuck just happened?
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>can't start battle net
>can't start game

whut. I see it in my task manager, but it's not there.
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>>154445516
End it in task manager and try again.
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>>154427868
Nova is of more use than Gazlowe without a doubt.
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I hope Nazeebo never gets reworked except for his Gargantuan. it needs Humongoid as its base ability, and an actual AI that isn't lolrandumb as its level 20 talent.

my special boy whom I love very much.
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Why are people on the battle.net forums so completely fucking braindead? Just came back from reading a thread that had everyone bitching about Zagara being broken and now I wanna KMS
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>>154450934
Because it's the official forum.
The rule is that official forums are way more restarted than fan forums.
>>154402152
Thrall is love.
Thrall is life.
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LUNARA
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IS
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>>154450416
>demolitionist
>bribe
>promote
>zombie wall talents
>iceblock but no spirit walk
>no iconic lvl 20 talent

That shaky fucker is pretty old anon
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>>154453736
That be some retro as fuck talents mon.
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>>154416782
Could you imagine a world where Nova could one-shot tanks just because?
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>>154427868
Nova has to be trash because we can't have angry kael'thas mains now can we.

Heroes like KT, hammer and li ming need to be able to 1v1 Nova while also doing triple her seige damage and having strong teamfight capabilities. It's only fair afterall :^)
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i pray every patch for a massive Gazlowe and Nova rework.

But no. I should just off myself.
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>>154454698
I wonder what a fight between Nova and Li Ming would look like.
But I'm sure Nova will get buffed one day. She's a good girl.
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I know it's ridiculous to ask but anybody want a free Jaina?
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>>154456721
>tfw Jaina is a FREE slut that just gets passed around
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>>154457460
Now the whole thread can use this worn-out cumslut.

TVMSDHSVW4QVDBD5F698L
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>when you are topping damage as Kharazim and you know something is not right
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>he said my favorite hero is shit
>I'll call him bronze
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Guys, how much would the game improve if they gave a chef skin to arthas and uther?
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>>154460894
It would imprive a 10000000000% aproximately.
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>>154460894
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>>154402152
Bolvar Fordring when?
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>>154461932
>Bolvar Fordring
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>>154462653
My bad, I meant Bolvar Fordong
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>>154457460
Stop insulting Jaina!
She's not a slut and not a dreadlord either.
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>>154447505
i don't think so

gazlowe can at least fucking lane. besides, he is okay on the new starcraft map.
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>>154460894

never as much as this
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>>154464428
this won that contest right? it should eventually come to the game?
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>>154464604
What contest?
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>>154464604
Yeah, but I don't know if the prize was to have it as an actual skin
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>>154464428
It makes sense now.
Paul leaves giant shits and never flushes I guess.
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>>154465518
kek
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>>154464428
it wasn't even a blizzard contest
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>>154464870
Man I wish we had some more cool cross universe skins.
Demonhunter Valla
Fallen Shaman Murky
Ultralisk Anub
Gnome mech Tychus
Orc Sonya
Troll Witchdocter Naz
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>>154466907
>docter
is that a word
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>>154466907
>gnome mech tychus
nah
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>>154467082
I meant Witch Doctor, don't know what happened there. Please no bully. ;__;
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>>154460724
if you're going to jump to conclusions and call an objectively strong hero shit when it's more likely that your teammate didn't know how to play him, then of course you're going to get called bronze, friendo
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>>154467257
Oh my....
I never knew I wanted this until now.
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>>154467257
That's DOPE
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>>154464428

God tier. Japanese high school themed hero skins.
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>>154467329
>any hero can be good in a composition where its role predetermined by a coordinated team
Not to mention that even in diamond there are people who have no fucking idea what they're actually doing, god forbid being good with meme heroes.
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>>154467257
>any hero can be good in a composition where its role predetermined by a coordinated team
uh when did i say that
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>>154467995
my bad, meant for
>>154467605
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>>154467257
>>154464428
Is there like a gallery of skin ideas somewhere?
I'd love to see more.
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>>154420485
>Turrets
>In a game where more and more ranged burst heroes are coming into existence
>Effective

Oh yeah okay, thank god turrets can stand all that harassment.
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>>154469390
Turrets have more uses than just blowing up heroes
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Is there an easy way to make webms out of replays or do I need to screen capture?
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>lose because we had an afk abathur
>win next match because he's on the enemy team
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>>154469987
replays are essentially text documents with a sequence of actions which the game renders you dumbass
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>>154469540
Sure, but this game is becoming more and more about blowing up heroes than anything else, what with all of this burst and mobility that's rampant in this game. securing those kills means a lot. Something Gazlowe can't do.
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>>154403278
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>>154470761
remember when they stated that the burst meta was over with the tyrande and stun game nerfs?

>LaughingBlizzardDesigners.wav
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>>154470858
this were fun the first time, now it's just getting cringey
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>>154471753
says you
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>>154471753
kys yourself
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>>154470761
A lot of the specialist heroes have gotten buffs -- split pushing is their core[!] functionality. It's as important as teamfighting. Otherwise, why have lanes at all?
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>>154470761
I have taken a real liking to Rexxar as a second warrior with the current burst cunts. I'm surprised he isn't more popular right now.

Misha can take an ungodly amount of Punishment, so you simply put her in between Ming/Chromie/Skillshot based champs. You essentially cuck them out of being able to poke effectively. All the while Rexxar is free to cap tributes, and towers. Ming is very effective at just poking the living shit out of your team while you try and cap, Rexxar can deal with her, and remain free to cap.

You can also do a great deal of denial on Shrines, or Eygpt by just parking Misha and running her around to stall them. Rexxar can keep pushing lanes while Misha trolls objective vs 2 heroes. On shrines you can basically say "This cap point is property of Rexxar", take his bird vs. Minions perk and never lose that point.

The trick is once Ming realizes you aren't trying to kill her, but simply cuck her, she's going to try to dive and burst down Rexxar, which she can do very fast, because Rexxar isn't that tanky. Or she will try and re-position away from Misha with ports. You can't just set Misha on her, you have to always have Misha chewing n her tits and not her ass, or being a wall. Sometimes it's better to just keep her between so she can get needed stuns off on other enemies faster.

But New heros that are banned every game and change the entire dynamic of the game with their mere presence are very balanced. And it is a very high skill cap to shoot truck sized bullets that do almost as much as Falstads ult with a low cooldown and a teleport that also has a shield and does damage, and never run out of mana and be healed if anything dies ever. But it's okay because she has a slightly higher hp pool than some assassins, so it's balanced.

Ming isn't OP, you just absolutely must have a direct counter to her at all times.
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>>154472742
Actually Rexxar has a very high winrate, but a almost nobody uses him

Thats tells everything
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>>154473191
>kneel before you are king

I didn't sign up for this but if you say so
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>>154473240
I thought we were supposed to kneel after we are king and not before
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>>154473191
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>>154473240
DO NOT SPEAK TO ME IN THOSE TONES
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>>154473159

Undiscovered meta?

Can people not into 2-unit microing?

Fuck I was shit at Microing in SC, but I can process two at once.

I used to play a game called Battle heart on my phone, that had you microing 4 units in live combat. I really like that game, and Rexxar feels like that.

I almost feel he should be classed as a specialist. He's sort of in-between like Xul.
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I don't understand the logic between giving a hero mobility AND great damage. Wouldn'y you consider a balanced hero to have more of one than the other, and not both? I'm looking at Lemming and Ballstad, especially Falstad with his retarded map-wide presence.
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>>154473939
Battleheart is fucking top, I had it on my iPod touch like 5 years ago and now it's out on android and I'm loving it again. Shame the controls can be so finicky sometimes.
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>>154473891
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>>154472742
>Ming isn't OP, you just absolutely must have a direct counter to her at all times.
you mean you need a warrior and/or melee assassin to stick onto squishy assassins to render them useless?
it's not like that even works if the enemy team has any sort of competent frontline that knows how to peel

anyway, barring that discussion the real reason Ming is OP lies in her kit itself; there's virtually no drawbacks to her
she's got insane damage at both long and close range, both in the form of burst and sustained damage (depending on which ultimate you pick), one of her ultimates is tychus' grenade on steroids and at lvl 20 it effectively becomes a mini-gust, she has one of the best escapes in the game (seeing as how it ignores collision and doesn't require an ally or minion to use properly, all of her abilities cost an astronomically low amount of mana in comparison to their effectiveness and to top it all off she gets resets whenever she kills a hero, as if she needed such a broken passive when her kit is already that strong on its own

this isn't good game design because all you're doing is literally showering a single hero with abilities/qualities that are extremely favorable in almost every situation, and to draw a comparison let's look at the hero from LoL which she's clearly modeled after;
low range, high damage, has to get up close to actually deal any damage and has to consistently take risks in fights to be effective, with the same hook being that hero kills reset reduce her cooldowns greatly

looking at Ming with all of this in mind, how can you not think "hm, actually; maybe they did give her way, way too many tools to work without giving her some kind of faults and she is perhaps a little bit overpowered"
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>>154472024
>>154472085
cringe
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>ming is op cuz needs counter

how about just right click upwards or downwards, avoid the orb, and rape her during the next 8 seconds when shes useless
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>>154474081
Part of the meta of that game is never allowing your guys to be "ontop" of each other. I played through it like 5 times with different parties. Mage/Mage/Witch/Bard is hard but fun as shit.

I hate that the only games like it are shitty Korean knock offs and that the sequel was nothing like it.

There is a game on ipad called Brutal Streets that is actually really good, except it has a grind/paywall that ruins the difficulty curve half way into the game. But it's fun pushing your skills to the max to push as far into the paywall as possible. Also there is a character who is basically the Mercenary from that movie where the mercenary guy adopts that weird little girl and has a plant.
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>>154474531
>cringe
>2016
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>>154474314
Sarcasm my friend. But really, just because Ming never has to consider any form of risk and can dump more damage than Nova from further away, but has an escape that is also an attack and a shield, doesn't means she's op. It simply means that she is the best assassin in the game and makes other heroes obsolete.
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>>154474593
yeah dude it's that simple because it's not like she'll have an entire team that's most likely zoning you while she's sitting in the back

it's not like she, falstad and others have high banrates because they're actually hard to deal with even for competent teams
>>154474959
>outperforms all the other heroes in her role by a long shot
>has a more flexible and effective kit than most other heroes in her role
>not overpowered
it's not like overpowered is a term used to describe when something dumpsters anything else in its category, but if you say so i guess
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>>154474852
>reaction gifs
>2016
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>>154474060
I actually main Falstad and Illidan, and I love them both because of that

With Illidan depends on the Hunt, and is less versatile than flight, but still the global presence it provides can give a huge advantage.

And for Falstad Epic Mount at level 20 is just disgusting.

Other 2 good heroes with this movility are Brightwing and Dehaka, but the last one doesn't really like me because of how badly he depends on skill-shots.
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>>154475254
>liming has an entire team backing her up
>but somehow you don't
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>>154476815
>my team, which is getting dicked by li-ming's broken damage while simultaneously having to deal with the rest of her team
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>>154476973
it seems youre playing in lower divisions. just try to ban or pick her yourself, and if she still gets through the draft, make sure you dodge whatever she throws at you. i am honestly saying this for a 100th time, after you stop being shit at the game, she stops being a `problem`.
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>>154477201
They removed it from him for a reason.
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>>154477161
>it seems youre playing in lower divisions
guess again, playing at grandmaster level and she has a 90% pickrate if she's not banned already
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>>154477367
wewlad
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>>154477516
>oh man, anon is not actually sitting at bronze and my initial point about "dude lmao she's not even there just dodge her abilities like they're nothing" didn't work
>better resort to buzzwords
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>>154476569
The trick to Dehaka's skill shots, is to use his movespeed and health to make it not a skill shot at all. Just do it point blank, never try to get them with the tip unless it's a sure thing. His tongue has a weird delay and travel rate.
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>>154476973

Her damage isn't that high unless your team is constantly being hit and constantly feeding her resets.

>>154473939
>>154473159

Because he's really good on certain maps and with or against certain teams.

I've heard he has pathing issues on Misha though and that's what keeps him from being a constant pick.

>>154472742

Good points.

Big health pools that survive burst, strong heals that out heal over time burst, and stuns with a body block are the bane of many assassin mages.

>>154472289

Specialists are quite good. Zag for lane bullying and vision. Gaz helps when there's a set battle area he can turret up or mercs are important. Xul is nasty in lane rotations and counter to melee. Hammer might as well be a ranged assassin. Vikings are XP kings. Sylvanas lets you push hard when you have the advantage.
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>>154477657
what? i just dont know what to say if you keep complaining about li ming while being at grandmaster level.
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>>154477958
>Her damage isn't that high unless your team is constantly being hit and constantly feeding her resets.
the biggest problem is that both the mana costs and cds on her basic abilities are so low that she can basically cast her spells with abandon for the entirety of the period before a teamfight and during an actual teamfight
>>154478041
you mean you couldn't possibly think "wow, maybe people are playing li-ming like she's supposed to at grandmaster level of play, and in said environment she might prove to be a bit too overpowered, like falstad"
in fact, why even reply with something so troglodytic as "wewlad" if you have nothing left to refute/no points left to raise
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>>154478041

Well, at the highest levels he has more of a point, because Li Ming's win rate rises there and she her pick rate is even higher too.

She's not super strong overall in all leagues, but with ideal team comps, good team work, and great play she has lots of potential.

If that's his point, it's a fair point, actually.
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>>154477958
I think the main thing people fuck up with is putting Rexxar in unnecessary danger. Rexxar really doesn't do that much damage, and you never need to be having Misha and Rexxar hitting the same thing 90% of the time. If you are having Rex and Misha do the same thing you are missing the entire point of Rexxar. (Barring unless you are focusing down a dieing enemy)

In a team fight that is head on, I generally send Misha deep to fuck shit up and focus on what she's doing. Let Rexxar chill and chip away at the tanks or bruisers and mitigate there ability to close gaps with birds and light body blocking if needed.

Play Rexxar as if Misha is a lich and Rexxar is a fragile Hoarcrux. Always be mindful if the enemy team is suddenly able to push into you, if they do the enemy pursuit formation will likely take a straight line, get misha near that straight line, stun 2-3 enemys and prevent a team wipe.

I wouldn't recommend Rexxar to people that want kills and to do big damage. His purpose is to basically be a general nuisance to the enemy team at all time. Which I find fun as shit.

Above all remember that Rexxar has one of THE BEST stuns in the game. Weak only to mosh pit and bad positioning through your own fault.
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As the resident silver and worse player of the whole general (because we know that the people at bronze 4 or 5 are just smurfs who threw all the games for the screenshot), I can confirm that at low ranks Li-ming is not that hard.
I've killed multiple lemings even as chen or monk
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>>154478449
True, though other characters have short CD, low/no cost pokes like Zagara, Cho'Gall, Chromie, Malfurion (with a certain build), Lunara, Hammer, and so forth.

Li-Ming has those sweet sweet resets though. If her team holds up the enemy so she can land skill shots and freely use disintegrate and any enemies die, she can snowball the fight rather hard.

>>154478770
I might have to give Rexxar some more of my time. There are so many heroes to learn and improve my skills with.

Can Misha's stun actually carry through a mosh pit to interrupt it or does she get interrupted and start dancing?
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>enemy team is Chromie, KT, Li-ming, Auriel, and Lili

I think I just got cancer. Holy shit. I didn't think this game could get any less fun but I've been proven wrong.
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>>154479723
Your suffering is fun.

For us.
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>its impossible to block people spamming you inv requests with a simple /ignore Name chat command

Truly mastercrafted, blizzard
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Wtf is with people picking double tank after the enemy team takes Tychus? This happens constantly in Hero League (even in lower diamond/upper plat), and then the team gets their asses handed to them and points the finger at everything other than Tychus having top hero damage and highest kill count. I swear 75% of the HoTs community have no idea what this hero does. Fucking retards.
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>>154481326
He is, sorta, because he requires a comp to work with, unlike other braindead heroes.
If the enemy doesnt realize you literally SHIT damage till 10 as tychus, and maul you down with everything they have, its a win, most of the time, especially if you can stack minigun over 12 secs.
Level 13 helps with his surv, but until then, his only defensive ability is his dash and if you take the dash upgrade at 20, you will lose a fuckton of damage in exchange for more mobility.
Not to mention his range is mediocre, Press the Advantage at 1 can help with that, but than you lose the 25% damage reduction, which is pretty much almost always mandatory to take, 16 also gives you a huge boost with that 5% extra damage on long range but eh ...

His 10 is garbage to a lot of other heroes, like holy fuck, Odin with the channel time has the same problems like before, you either blow that thing and the enemy retreats or you cant get in it fast enough to have impact, you also lose his minigun trait so whatever.
His Laser is okay, but the range and time it takes to deal damage for that thing is hilarious, not to mention it will go down in most AoE.

He is still unbelievable fun and dueling people with minigun up and level 13 is damn satisfying.
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>>154481214
even the hots team doesn't know about tychus, don't you remember
>Tracer is the ONLY hero that can shoot and run at the same time
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>>154483514
why would you care about tychus when you could care about the objectively better Tracer
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>>154483986
Are we talking about release Tracer or current Tracer?
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Prepping to start streaming, I'll be live in a few moments

twitchtv/akaijii
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>>154473191
>bought Leoric ever since he went 10k
>been my favorite warrior ever since
>tfw being spooky all the time
Also Blackhand skin when?
The two basically have the same body shape, size, weapon and stuff.
Just make the ghost abilities lava themed and he's good.
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We get Artanis and Alarak before Fenix.

just kill me now
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tfw no one to play with and forced to watch akaijii throw all the way down to bronze5
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>>154484385
We are talking about SFM porn Tracer
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>>154485636
>Fenix
>ever

Keep dreaming
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>>154485636
>Wanting a dragoon that badly.
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>>154486006
i wanted zealot Fenix but thats never gonna happen now.
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>>154485636
They're big on adding characters from their more recent games, I assume as a means of cross-promotion essentially. Christ, they added Xul and he's nothing like the D2 Necromancer.
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>>154486101
It was never going to happen in the first place. They always said one of the things holding back Fenix was that he would have to have some type of Resurrection theme and Leoric had just come out at that point.
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>>154486159
Alarak and Guil'dan were both actually highly requested and the hero after Zarya is probably going to be Blademaster.
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>>154479708
No, I believe it will stop her if it is already in progress
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>>154487461
Yeah it does. The bear isn't unstoppable.
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I was going 6W 1L in my placement matches. Been getting paired with Master/GM and Diamond players. Suddenly I get this shit on my team against a full Diamond team.

Thanks Blizzard. This makes complete sense. He played Medivh and didn't know what the fuck was going on.
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>>154469987
what >>154470260 says. i capture replays with OBM and cut & convert with XMedia recode.

>>154485654
play with akajii and carry him out of bronze
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>>154488498
He's diamond 3.
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>>154488893
He's a smurf.
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I am competent with almost every tank, except Leoric. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, I'm used to having more CC. Am I suppossed to be just diveing and dieing to abuse my spooky form
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>>154489764
You shouldn't have to die to make use of Leoric. Really, the biggest part of playing Leoric is just to land your W's. If you miss your W you're way squishier than you need to be.
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>>154489764
>hit your Q
>then hit your W
>congrats, thats literally it
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https://youtu.be/pj77eBFkA-M
What did he mean by this?
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i did my placement matches
can you guys guess where i ended up at
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>>154492227
silver 3 like I did
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>>154492417
close
silver 2
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>>154492475
Good, that means that my record of the worse player here is still intact
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>>154492585
I finished my placemtnes today, I'm Silver 3 too

In team league
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>>154492732
That's the bullshit about not doing a hard reset of MMR.
>6w4L HL placements
>Silver 3
>2w8L TL placements
>Silver 3
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>>154492859
In my case it was a 5/5

And my friends got all different flavors of bronze
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Le Many Skelltons or Le Blue Belly?

Need more specialists.

I like to bully.
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>>154492475
50/50 win/lose

>>154492732
>in team league
do people even play TL? i feel like that place is the deadest place in all of hots
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>>154493027
We played there for the lols, with shits like Cho'Gall, + Abathur + Vikings + Nova
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>>154493007
blue belly is almost a guaranteed win on 2 maps, where on the other maps the winrate and usefulness vary.

many skeletons is REALLY GOOD on 4 maps, and good on all other maps except BoE and the upcoming map.

weigh that and decide
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>>154493007
>blue belly
Murky?
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>>154493915
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>>154494275
Oooh
How dare you give the warchief such a nickname. >.<
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Azmodan price drop when?
Sylvanas price drop when?
Rexxar price drop?
Kharazim price drop when?
Zeratul price drop when?
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>>154493027
It's so dead that when I was doing my placement matches, we went against a team with the GM 1 and GM2.

Needless to say, we got assfucked like a college girl
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>>154495152
>Sylvanas price drop when?
never, shes a recruitment prize
>Rexxar price drop?
hopefully never, literally no one needs a 7k rexxar that everyone owns and no one knows how to micro
>Zeratul price drop when?
hopefully never, same reason
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>>154495221
i actually kept getting other placement match folks during my placements
shit was kinda comfy, people reacted to things, it was surprisingly pleasant
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>>154493027
lel
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What's the best you could possibly place after your placement matches are finished?
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>>154495924
Probably diamond 3
Got 9-1 at 3300 mmr and got diamond 3 anyway
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>Failed master's promo game
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>>154496537
>promo game to gold
>too scared to play because I know that a losing streak is to come
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>>154498009
t. akaijii
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>>154498172
Nah, the other guy.
Resident silver
Akaijii is already gold, isn't he?
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>>154498286
not anymore KEK
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>actually wreck with Sonya after team picks Uther, brightwing, tracer, and sylv

Feels so good
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Will we get the booty tonight 24:00 or tomorrow at any random time?
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>>154498616
>Uther and BW on the same team
So you were at 100% health 100% of the time.
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Those Korean games were so good. I love seeing Rich play Medivh
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>>154479004
chen is a counter to liming, fyi
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>>154498813
a day after NA
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>>154498009
you realize season ends soon anyway right?
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>>154473159
Rexxar has a bigass multi-man stun every 8 seconds that doesn't even put himself in danger. Rexxar is amazing but most teams can't play with him well and would rather have an ETC
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>>154499170
Yes, that is my dilemma.
I'm too scared of playing but I know I have 1 day to reach gold
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>>154498009
Senjinn here,

>Demoted from Gold 5

I dunno how to help you man. Need to watch pro games build confidence and mechanics to gank and solo.
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>>154492210
Illidank is a dang fool because he's been imprisoned in a 10 foot cell for 95% of his life
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>>154499512
Didn't you abandoned this game for overwatch and penis enlargement pills?
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Guys i'm 55th on the people league.

plz cheer for me

thnks senpai.
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I want to play with the camera locked on my character (inb4 noob, I just can't get used to unlocked) but I want to be able to move the camera completely away from my character if I need to, not just having it stop when my character is at the edge of the screen. Is there an option for this, or will I just have to just hold space when I want the camera on my character?
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https://twitter.com/BakeryHeroes/status/775022026889322496

What did he mean by this?
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>>154498009

I won my promo after so long, and now I'm scared I'll lose my rank again and I'll never get to the next level.
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Since Tracers play exactly like Overwatch, more or less, I wonder how they will do Zaryah. Will attacking Zaryah while her bubble is up boost her attack? That could be cool.
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>>154503117
They already detailed all of that and yes. She doesn't have mana instead she has a energy meter.
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>retards talking shit in quick meme
>check their rank once game is done
>diamond 3
Every fucking time, those guys are the real bronzies
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>>154485636
Talandar would be a better fit now days.
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>>154506004
Diamond 3 is the rank for people who don't actually play HL. They just do their placements for the rewards and then it's back to QM.
t. Diamond 3
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>getting literal int feeders in my placements
>everyone does absolutely nothing but bitch at each other the entire game instead of actually playing it
>no one groups up, instead they wander around the map aimlessly
>no one looks at the mini map
>everyone's a fucking baboon

Is this how it is in ranked? Should I just stick to Quick Play?
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>>154506965
At least finish your placements before the season rotates.
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>>154506965
It reflects your unranked mmr, therefore skill. At the start of each match you should see what tiers you're up against.
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>>154476334
Not 'le kinky bug' or 'le BDSM bug'
why
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>expecting to get silver or gold, went 6W4L
>get this

Is Blizzard just generous as all fuck with ranked? There's no way I'm Platinum level at this game.
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>>154509685
>tfw i went silver with 5/5
unless that one win makes such a huge difference it's more likely that they use quickmemes/unranked MMR while calculating your ranked performance
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Is Xul going to get Nerfed?

He's too fun.

>Push lanes via existing
>Shred creep waves
>Shut down auto attackers
>Can counter a double healer comp
>Rootin and tootin
>Sycthe does a lot of damage
>Can build tanky or spanky
>Good on all maps except the worst map in the game
>Skelly Qaurtet or presh R for damage
>Level 20 free shooty bone
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>>154509685
It's not mere win/loss so much as who you won against and who you lost against.
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>>154509984
Is Li Ming going to get nerfed? Is Tracer going to get nerfed?
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>>154510124
Tracer already got gutted. Who the fuck has problems with Tracer?
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>>154509984
After starting with a hellishly overpowered release, Xul has been through the wringer with nerfs, and he's ended up in a fairly balanced spot right now.
His weakness is all his damage is in his scythe, if it misses he's not able to bully anyone very well.
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>>154510284
t. racer
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Tracer literally shouldn't be in this game.
Overwatch heroes literally shouldn't be in this game.
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>>154511023
I don't object to Overwatch heroes in general but Teleporting Ass Cancer needs to go.
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>>154511023
>>154511228
Stop talking to yourself.
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>>154511023
>game about Blizzard franchises meeting shouldn't include this specific Blizzard franchise
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>>154511328
ebin
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LUNARA
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place em
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>>154512783
ISNT
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>w<
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>>154512839
PURE
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http://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=18298

http://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=18299

http://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=18300

http://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=18301

http://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=18302

http://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=18303


Here are 3 wins and 3 loses with Chen courtesy of your resident bronze, for the pandalover to show what not to do with chen

Or if you guys want to feel better about your own abilities by comparison
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>>154512978
fuck you!!!
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>>154512801

Blue if you don't feed early and play safe.
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POST THE FUCKING VIDEO ALREAY
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EU's powerplay of the day
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>>154513745
what video
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>>154514081
KEK, these are the "pro" hots players
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>>154514081
I don't know why I play with you chucklefucks I swear on me mam m8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLZLopXhOyw
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>>154514081
>pro
im platinum fag
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>>154514081
karma for saying dead space 1 > 2
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>>154514081
redux version
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>>154514912
dead center

i fucking aimbotted that shit
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>>154514332
At least some people have common sense in this game
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>>154422064
Vs ai?
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>>154512801
>>154513245

Tychus was our second ranged sustain pick, and went against my better judgment since we lacked melee threat. He turned out to be our best ranged player of that game, although making greedy cocky calls that got us wiped. But he did recognize this and was overall pretty smart. He declared GG fat boy to me in pm, but good player. Would play with again.

Our brainy warrior was anything but. He liked to stand in AoE and just spam abilities willy nilly. He demanded I as a support should solo three enemies alone to contest their boss. Then he declared it was game over since I went to a safe lane to push and get xp (and was still back in time to defend the boss).

Zagara missed her calling to be an architect, so instead in this game she was building a swarm or nydus canels. Like freaking everywhere. Not sure if that was a good play or not, but we did have vision on boss. Would play with again.

Kael was okay, died a bit too much for the amount he got done. Would play with again.
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another betting time
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le forced 50 meme
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Playing with Kerrigan who self casts every time she stuns. Why?
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>>154516750
red got ming, but also gaz
believing in blue
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>walking around in dragon shire
>find this

what to do?
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>>154516758
>QM
forced 50 meme applies to HL, anon; not "whoever gets drafted into a proper team setup wins" mode
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>>154516750
Blue has the better draft. As long as you don't die to Illidan solo and get peels while Stitches zones you should befine.
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>>154516905
report to the authorities
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>>154514912
I don't understand.
Tyrael has holy ground.
Why is the maw even necessary.
Why.
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>>154514081
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>>154516934
Hmmmmm.

3 Wins and 6 losses above that.
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>>154516905
Cut head off
Have sex with the warm dead body
Go back home and play some HotS
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>>154516750
Keep both thanks healed and enjoy your free win
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>>154517207
>2 months ago.
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>>154517081
i am the police, i put her in a cage. shes still asleep
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>>154516905
Wonder what is this random elf doing here and then proceed to take dragon knight and destroy the core
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>>154516750

If Illidan isn't a retard red will win.
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>>154517323
Haven't played any HL since. Only came back to this game last week.
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>>154516750
LiLi is one of the worst healers for Illidan. Blue should win.
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>>154517479
waking up
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>>154517557
Lili is one of the worst healers.
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>>154517479
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>>154517557
>for Illidan
for fucking everyone you shitter
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Lunara to level 10 now boys
Got Greymane to 10 too but didn't buy his master skin.
How are your hero collections looking /vg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7DCEvN9cZk
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>>154517718
he was just jelly none of the qt elf sorceresses would sleep with him
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>>154517727
Malf exists.
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>>154502436
>BW is bad
How can somebody be so wrong?
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>>154517854
Doesn't make LiLi any better, does it?
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>>154517718
best to be safe around elves. never 4get lord garithos
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>>154517854
Malf is not as shitty as Lili if the enemy team has no burst and at least he can control who he is healing.
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>>154517872
We'll see who is right at Blizzcon.
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>>154517645
But anon all she wants to do is share some bomb ass tea with you. Don't shit on her please :(
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>>154518056
are elves safe to keep as pets?
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>>154518624
She can keep her shitty heals. Dumb useless panda should fuck off.
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>>154518060
>Li Li can't control who she heals
This is the most bronze thing I've ever heard.
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>>154518060
>No burst.

What game are you playing?
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>>154519159
>if
Can you read?
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>>154519404
There is no team that doesn't have burst ever.
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>>154518972
Sounds like you've been burnt by too many bad Li Li's.
Which is hard to be affected by because she's brain dead easy to play.
Which means you're probably in the super duper low silver leagues or some jazz.
Excuse my >implying but it just sounds like you're a shitter who can't avoid damage.
>>154519154
Fuckin this. Every time anyone posts that, I feel like they don't understand how range or simple timing works. It's not even that hard to judge when the cup will reach the receiver.
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>>154516750

>For blue:
>>154516876
>>154516975
We did not have the better draft, exactly.
>>154517315
You were right.
>>154517557
Li Li is good against auto attackers especially those without stuns. But we had stuns, peels, and stronger heals.

>For red:
>>154517450


>How the match went:

We right away were a little negative, and we drafted stitches pretty much by accident instead of getting a good auto attacker for me to stim.

Jaina got picked off so much. But then so did the enemy Gazlowe who seemed to think he could over extend in a lane like in a bot match. Diablo was a solid aggressive and intelligent player who could peel. Stitches was there, and trying, he had the awareness to be aggressive when backed up and cautious when not.

Illidan dived of course, but was way too reckless and couldn't back his dives up, he didn't frag me once.

Their Leoric made a few nice traps with his ult, but he couldn't do the damage to confirm shit. Even with Li ming and Illidan around I healed and Diablo could ult for aoe stuns.

>Result: Crushing Blue Victory.
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>>154519567
>36,000 healing.

She went Water Dragon didn't she?
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>>154519567
105k gold
damn i'm jelly
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>>154519567

>9 death as illidan
>8 death as gazloweed

Yeah so retarded I bet Illidan took hunt ?
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>>>154518159
>Doesn't know what globals are
t.bronze
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Another match more bets. I couldn't get morales this time

>>154519781
im in another game, i'll get back you

>>154519859
my shekels :)
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>Player berates another player
>That player proceeds to die 9 times and be just as shit as the player he is berating
>Still acts all high and mighty

Absolutely subhuman.
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>>154519559
>I feel like they don't understand how range or simple timing works.
This. This all day. Li Li has a VERY low skill floor, any shitter can play her and do ok. A GOOD Li Li player can position to send heals to an intended target and compensate for travel time. A great Li Li player can spread the heals to multiple team members as needed during fights.
Focus heals to tank/bruiser, position to heal hurt assassin while leaving tank with serpent to keep heals going, reposition back to healing tank while AVIODING sending more heals to assassin until tank/bruiser is at a safe level of health again.
Li Li si bad and/or can't target heals is just a dumb meme spread by shitters.
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>>154519559
I actually like her only shitters literally don't know what she's for and when you should pick her.

She's an objectively shit healer and nobody ever should pick her for her healing.

I'm master anon. 3.4k+ MMR.
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>>154518060
Malf works well for ultra cheese Cho'Gall, Tass, Li-Ming, Malf comp.

>>154519781
>pick cups
>get maw'd

>>154520129
>Dignitas is bronze
Ok anon.
Dehaka has a globa too, how come nobody picks him?
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>>154520481

If you buy time and play the late game blue otherwise red especially on this map with the comp they got if they snowball you are fucked.
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>>154520481
It takes a miracle for blue to win. Horrible draft for blue, especially on that map.
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>>154520904
>how come nobody picks him?

Poor mobility, unreliable stun, not that tanky.
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>>154521412
I wasn't really asking. I was saying a global by itself means jackshit.

Also I love Dehaka but for him to be played in competitve he'd need that lvl 1 waveclear talent to be baseline.
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>>154520904
>mawing a moving, jugging CUTE in the backlane
t.brooonze
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>>154522836
>picks cups
>get combod by gaz
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>>154523042
Gaz was on her team idiot.
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>>154523095
>pick cups
>get gorged
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>>154520105
>Illidan took hunt.

Yes he did.

>>154519781
>Li Li went water dragon

She took Jug of not actually 1000 cups.
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>>154523158
If they are focusing all that on LiLi than Illidan should be running wild.
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>>154520481

>For blue:
Nobody

>For red:

>>154521286
>horrible draft
Yeah you may be right.

>For maybe:
>>154521163


>Game Summary:

There was arguing about picks. I couldn't get morales. We couldn't get nova off her hero, but she was sure she was really good you guys! (Pro tip: She was not.)

My team kept dying a lot.

Then Raynor snapped. He started spending more time TALKING IN CAPS and TELLING US HOW TO PLAY than actually playing. His stutter step seemed non existent, but he was sure we should go back to QM to learn a thing or two and listen to his yelling. He also kept dying, a lot.

I shouldn't have been trying to keep things fun with banter. It only goaded him on.

>Result: Crushing Red Victory. (kill me pls)
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>>154524089
>13,000 healing.

What?
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>>154524089
>Raynor with the most deaths

OH GEE GOLLY WHO'DA THUNKIT

I fucking hate this hero
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>>154524206
Try playing with people who have a more or less functioning brain
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>>154524149

You're right it's totally low.

I was oddly stuck solo laning a lot and watching people die in other places while being picked off.

I had my Q ready to heal plenty of times, but my team would often die in petty engagements alone or with one other person versus 3+ of the enemy.
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bets etc...
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>>154525441
Blue better teamfight but I think red will snowball due to map.
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>>154525441

>For blue:

Nobody

>For Red:
>>154525773

Thou art a calculating knave! How you can doubt a CRUSADE OF THE LIGHT?

But lo, your careful plots and thinking have come to naught! Victory for blue. Deus Vult!
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>>154525773
>Thinking a team with Artanis would win.

Artanis is my boy, but he's garbage.
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>>154525773
>>154528220
Oh, I thought that was Zera :v)
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i just played with a Butcher who I think literally couldn't see things in groups smaller than 3

at least i think that's the reason why he only ever attempted to kill minions, mercenaries, or groups of 5 enemy heroes

2 allies were fighting 2 enemies in the lower DK shrine while he ignored them all to hit mercs in the camp just south of it (then died to nova)

and of course he never charged enemies that were alone even with 3-4 allies around. he would only go in if the enemies outnumbered us
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>>154530202
Get ready to see a lot of shitty Butchers when the rework hits.
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>>154530436
Can't wait for it.
>butcher charges my bitch
>I sancti her
>butcher dies
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i have to do 10 placement matches before like tomorrow so i can get my bronze 5 portrait and that sweet sweet +10 gold
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epic
i like it
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>>154536947
That's whatchya get for playing the videogame.
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what is xp from a match actually based on?
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>>154538547
I think it's team xp soaked + win bonus (if you win)
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>>154535350
>2015
Was Zeratul good back then for that meme to have surfaced?
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>>154539632
He used to be like the best hero in the game. He had pre-nerf focused attack, a longer cast range on VP, and a bigger time window on wormhole.
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>>154539632
He was once the best hero in the game. He did insane damage.
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>>154517718
Garithos is actually the dumbest person in the entire warcraft universe, which is really saying something

>Elves didn't help out my city from succumbing to the scourge even though it happened in like 5 days and there is nothing they could have reasonably done! I'm glad they all died!
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>>154517872
The number 1 ranked support in all of Europe
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>>154539632
Shhh...the void beckons, kid.
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>>154540665
I think Bakery isn't being serious, anon. I sincerely doubt he'd be that steadfast in how much he hates BW after Korea played it, and judging by how he was talking about her on THH last time he was on.
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>>154541787
*teleports behind you*
*void slashes you*
*sticks an explosive to you*
pssh.. nothing personnel kid
as lemming kills him with her health at 100%
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>>154541950
Li Ming is the most balanced hero in the game.
>.<
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>>154539887
>every QM was Zeratuls and Novas all over the place
Truly dark times...
>>
>going up the panda ladder
good times.
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>>154539632
He could global Valla and pretty much any squishy in the game.
Literally from 100% to 0% in a second or two, and then go back with wormwhole.
>>
>everyone bitching at everyone before/during draft
>"i'm picking tychus cuz i know u noobs will focus tank"
>"lol u pick jaina into a bunch of range" (jaina was literally the first overall pick and not picked "into" anybody
>get to loading screen
>literally all bronze 3-5
>win the game anyway
>only 5 games into my placement

Oh boy I really can't wait to do hero league *all* the time!
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>>154548623
You would be lucky to be placed in silver at best.
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>>154548697

Silver gets me 750g I wouldn't have had before!
>>
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: September 13 - 19, 2016

Raynor
Muradin
Kharazim
Nazeebo
Anubarak
Tychus
Chen (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Sgt. Hammer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Tracer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Auriel (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)

great week ahead
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>>154548864
>snoriel
woo, i guess
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>heroes as war away from the centre as possible
it's dead guys
i kinda wish it wasn't
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>>154549178
Then why isn't Hearthstone at the very front and Starcraft behind Diablo?
>>
Why is everyone so fucking unwilling to not play fucking garbage like Gazlowe and Nova despite them being absolute garbage with them?
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>>154548907
It's kinda funny how "noone cares about supports" meme proved true with Auriel. Each and every fucking hero gets a shitload of threads on how OP/shit they are.
Meanwhile, Auriel came out so strong and noone said a word beyond "Auriel + Cho'Gall is broken". People complained about no new supports for a year, finally got arguably one of the funnest supports ever and noone gives two shits.
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>>154550610
this noone guy sure is opinionated
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>>154509865
According to Hotsdogs I'm Platinum MMR in QM. Went 7-3 in placements and still got placed in Silver 1, because I sucked ass in preseason (something like rank 27). I've started to believe that the placements barely do anything to move you out of your current rating no matter how good or bad you do. We'll see in the next season.
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>>154550972
Not everyone reports their games to hotsdogs. You might be under or overrated.
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>>154551357
I absolutely take that into consideration. I believe to be about Gold-level. That's where I stabilize in HL solo-queue at least.

Thing that I wanted to point out was this: In preseason I was in the lower midfield, but after winning 7 out of 10 placement matches, I still end up in the lower midfield. Therefore I think the placements have less of an impact than promised, or the system is merely a bit random there.
>>
Illidan? More like Illicuck, am I right lads?
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>>154553301
Pretty much.
Even his dying thoughts are of getting cuck' by Malf.
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>>154553301
loool never heard of it +1 :DDD
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>>154550610
Supports don't wipe entire teams off the map in seconds like Li Ming did so nobody really cares for them. The only time anybody cares is when their healbot sucks and they die.
Also support players are beta cucks anyway which is another reason for Auriel going unnoticed. As a result they're too scared about posting about their hero.
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>>154553678
thats some top tier shitposting
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>>154553743
that's epic, stop replying to his bait.
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>>154554205
>mad support cuck in the general
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>>154550502
If it is QM, suck it up, I'm trying to be better at them. It isn't like there is another mode for this. Bots won't teach me shit.
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>>154549939
It's not at the front cuz it'd be kinda embarrassing to admit that their best product is a card game.
>>
Should I rush alarak to 5 or rush for that dank legend rank 1?
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>>154557610
>legend rank 1?
?
>>
So I'm tryin to get into watching the HoTs pro scene, any place (vids) I should start with?
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>>154557831
Grandmaster rank 1. Too much hearthstone rots your brain.
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>>154557887
why not both?
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>it's a li ming uses disintegrate on mercs episode
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>>154557852
>HotS pro
Are you a grill?
Are you a real grill?
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>>154558248
Oh no she can't ult anyone for 30 WHOLE SECONDS
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Okay lads I just started playing Hots and i like it except for one thing.

My mouse keeps moving the entire screen. What I mean by this is, if my cursor gets too close to the edge of the screen, it moves the screen away from my hero.

When I level up, I move my cursor to the bottom left to upgrade but my whole screen shifts when I do so.

I hope you guys know what I mean. It's not like that in LoL

Is there anyway to turn this off? I can't play unless I can - it's too annoying and it messes up my fights.
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>>154558449
Unless someone on the other team dies, even if she only gave them a tickle once. She also gets a big heal.
I sure love ming, so comfy and lewd
>>
>>154558563
What would a fight between Li Ming and Tyrande look like?
>>
>>154558491
The very corners of your screen will move the camera. If you hold down middle mouse button you can drag the camera.
Not quite sure what your issue is. Maybe turn off camera lock and use Spacebar.
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>>154558248
>my damage abilities are on CD because I just used them and we need to take the camp fast
>some bronzie complains
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>>154558491
Learn to play. Unlocked cam is better in every way. Yes I know screen moves even with locked cam.
Use 'n' to bring up talents and select with the shortcut command (I forget what the standard is), no mouse needed. Turn on click through minimap too.
Git gud.
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Dork Li Li skin when?
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>>154559494
Li Li needs a Starcraft skin which turns her into a Protoss.
>>
>>154559494
Lili needs a skin that stops her being a fucking panda and instead its a female dwarf from a warcraft tavern hurling tankards of ale at people
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>>154560645
*sweating intensifies*
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>>154560451
That sounds pretty cool actually.
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>>154560317
>turn absolute shit into a gem
No.
>>
>>154557610
Rush Alarak to 5 by rushing to rank 1.
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>>154560317
I honestly don't see Lili as any concrete Starctaft race.
>>
>>154553678

There was a brief period of time when Reghar was able to wipe and entire team and leave with full health.

Everyone complained
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I WILL HAVE YOUR HEAD
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>>154564212
Can you take my heart instead?
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>>154564337
YOU MAY BOW TO ME
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Shit, I just finished reading "Herbest West, reanimator" of Lovecraft and I'm hyped of playing Xul.

Also, why the fuck is the guy black haired in all the images if in the story is blonde?
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>Nova Triple tap
>Kerrigan Ultralisk

I cried during draft and I cried when we won
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>>154565917
>>Nova Triple tap
>>Kerrigan Ultralisk
>Tychus
The horseshoe theory is real and applicable to everything
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>>154566289
Don't you dare be condescending to my husbando
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>>154563987

Rehgar after his rework was so powerful he had top win rate and could crush two melee assassins at once.

It was obscene and crazy, super fun to play, and was complained about.

Auriel is doing alright now, she was nerfed a bit, but still strong. She's a good support but not necessarily the best in general or at the master level.
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>>154566687
I find Auriel very good however there is instances where you become energy starved and it's hard to keep your team in it, especially if it's a poke game.
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>>154566832
Yeah, I've had both cases.
We we have a strong attacker I can't hold all this energy.
But when it's just poke and run I barely get any
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>>154566334
brother
hope you always go attack speed quest into odin nuke like a real man
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>>154559494
Li Li is cute like a little sister
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>remove the healing aspect of Victuals, removing all sustain outside of W and getting carried by healbots
>"gj guys, we finally made the Butcher viable again"


Blizzard logic
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Helly Kitty Jo FUCKING WHEN
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>>154569410
did you even play him
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>>154569728
got him at level 13. healing from Victuals saves my ass every day.
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>>154569798
i mean, did you even play him on PTR? you can't be fucking serious in believing hes gonna be worse, right?
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>>154569410

BRONZE
R
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Z
E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pds33h0YSlo
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>>154569974
wow, if the other team is positioned THAT badly I can do that on vanilla right now, no effort.
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>>154517728
May not be the sharpest collection, but I've long since stopped trying to amass gold, bought a few masters and a mount, and nevertheless have nearly 40k in stock.
Though since they removed idling in Training I haven't even been assed to get some of the latest heroes (whom I have hated) to 5. (Auriel's lovely though.)
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>>154569410
>remove the healing aspect of Victuals
What?
They just changed the tier it was in, made it instantaneous and at range, and made it so you don't get it from heroes.
Hell, it's technically stronger now at a full % more per meat. One wave of minions refreshes 28% HP + regen globe.

So now it's marginally less strategic (can't treat them as 9% health packs from a kill) but makes him significantly hardier in a lane (can't bully him away from the meats).
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>>154570054

Do you even know who is playing him? Have you seen how many stacks? The guys is literally a pro korean player, the stacks give him power beyond anything any hero in the game can get on the entire game at this point.
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WHAT TASK IS THERE
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>>154570528
because of course the butcher's place is farming minions in lane...

>>154570583
you never saw what butcher was able to pull off when he was first released, did you
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>>154566832
You're absolutely right.

I was in one of those games, where the enemy went very strong poke, and our ranged, burst, and team work were weak.

Auriel was incredibly energy starved and couldn't keep me going as a tank, so I couldn't tank enough, so our team could engage enough, so we lost and lost and lost.

I can see how Auriel is good though when she can AoE enemy heroes, Aoe heal her team, blind attackers, knock back slower melee characters, and so forth.
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>>154569974
>135 abattoir stacks
hwhwat the fuck.

>>154570765
>when he was first released
Butcher has been continuously buffed. He has never received a nerf. What he could do on release, he can do better now, because his hook inflicts silence and his charge explodes for more damage etc.
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>>154570623

Cut through the heaviest armor and still slice the tomato.
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>>154569427
2cute. Can't have that
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>>154558491

You can change your settings for this.

You can even set a key to toggle on and off camera lock on your hero. This way you don't have to hold it down like you would the spacebar and you can look around when not in a fight.
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>>154570289
>Level 15 Malf

What the fuck
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>>154571110
butcher used to be able to 1v2 anyone and win until literally everyone was buffed and autoattackers became shit.
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>>154571110

Butcher can get infinite stacks of damage after completing his quest and killing heroes if you pick the lvl1 talent.


>>154571714

Stop spreading lies chump, I was there when Butchie was released, he was GARBAGE. Gul'Dan levels of mediocre; he never saw play on competitive.
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>>154571983
you lie and spread confusion purposely
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>>154571628
I really, really liked Malfurion before Tranquility got nerfed. I acknowledge he's total shit now, but that ult was a goddamn playmaker when it was strong.
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>>154572348
only KT and Ming deserve to be good. other heroes are mere playthings in their game.
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>>154572448

but anon, KT is garbage now; Falstad used to be the other only good one, and he is getting nerfed to oblivion next patch.
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>>154571714
The only time Butcher was any good was the day he was released, then the next day everyone knew how to beat him and he became shit.
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>>154572587
It's Chromie and Gul'dan's time to shine! I knew there was a reason why I played them.
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You should just play Overwatch. I acknowledge that there has been more content updates for Heroes of the Storm, and that Overwatch is not the same kind of game- but Overwatch is so significantly better and has so much more love put into it that you who are interested in an exciting team-based blizzard game should switch over. You'll be happier.

Or maybe not, it is of course a matter of personal taste! Still, you should at least -try- Overwatch if you haven't already.
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Looking for fags to play TL to get that mount, let's dick around and meme away and shit
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>>154574404
i dont want to play with jews
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>>154572587
>mfw i have both Falstad and KT on max lvl
>mfw they both got nerfed to oblivion
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>>154574337
Observe, the Blizzard shill in its natural habitat. Take note on how low they've fallen.
Overwatch is shit in nearly every aspect. Heroes of the Storm is also shit in comparison to its respective genre. Stop baiting.
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>>154574485
Falstad's in pro have been going a more auto attack build for awhile.
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>>154574337
Tried it during the open beta.
FPS ain't my jam. Can't hit anybody. Don't have the precision controls.
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>>154574337
Literally the most blandest and generic FPS there is, even more so than call of duty
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>>154574754
That's why you play Reinhardt.
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>>154574561
>Heroes of the Storm is also shit in comparison to its respective genre

honestly, the fact that it does MOBA things wrong is the reason why it's the only good MOBA. literally everything that other ones have (gold, personal EXP, item shops, literally 1 map per game, games that last for hours) is tedious shit that serves no purpose other than making the game seem deeper and more complex than it is. I like the genre, but it's dragged down by archaic mechanics that everyone clings to like a methhead to their fix.
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>>154574754
Play Reinhard or Winston.

>>154574808
>single-handedly revitalizes the stale FPS market and establishes an entire new genre within it
>bland
>generic

What the read am I fucking?
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>>154574575
yeah i use it too, it's just not as fun as magestad
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>>154574883
>Zyzz pose
What did the mean by that?
Who are they trying to cater to?
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so i have ascended into platinum retard status in lol and i'm ready to have fun again

last time i played was a little while before they changed hero league to ranked. anything huge happen? how many new heroes did blizz shit out after chromie?

>>154574575
is this guy still busted as fuck?

>>154574884
its okay if you want a more casual experience but having individual gold/xp gain really makes for a better game
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>>154574883
Fucking WHEN?
This guy needs to be in HotS.
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>>154575029
I agree. I'm just saying he won't be destroyed because of the nerf.
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>>154575059
also has this game always been 14 gb

like holy shit family
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>>154575059
> having individual gold/xp gain really makes for a better game

explain your point. I don't follow.

>casualized

nvm, get your buzzword spouting ass back to /lolg/ where you belong.
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>>154575059
He's still first ban or first pick a lot of if that's what you mean. As long as he has global he'll always be at least decent.
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>>154575059
>HURRR ITS DIFFERENT SO IT SUCKS !!!! F-FUCKING CASUL!!!!

This is why Mobas are shit.
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Let's be honest lads.
We need a WoW rogue.
But any noteworthy rogues are just boring humans, elves or orcs and won't stick out.
So for this reason I'm sure once we get a rogue it will be an ogre OC rogue for HotS.
Van Cleef might be cool but he's not meme enough for this game.
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>>154575482
Garona Halforcen?
I'm sure she'd stick out because the boobs.
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>>154575482
Rogue tier2 skin for zeratul
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>>154575482
Fuck you Edwin would be great, but your right it would probably be that Valeera girl.
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>>154575313
>>154575474
there's really not much difference in the core gameplay, it's just a simpler moba. why is that a bad thing? are you insecure my friends?

>>154575324
that is kinda what i mean
i used to do the fucktons-o-damage hammer build which has been nerfed i guess according to this thread
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>>154575482
>adding another ogre to the game
they wont do this anytime soon although your idea is nice
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>>154575313
but lol is also casualized compared to dota

all the disables are 10x weaker, everyone has huge mana pools so mana management isn't a thing, you don't lose gold when you die, it's hard/impossible for enemies to kill you under your tower, you don't have to manage a courier, you don't need map awareness to use your TP scrolls effectively...

hots is still more casual though

i play dota with my friends but when i'm solo and i play hots when i'm alone just BECAUSE it's casual/easy/fast
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>>154575482
Sneaky~ Shush! Quiet!
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>>154574884
You have the wrong perspective. The key is that those "archaic" mechanics have a ludicrous amount of niche elements and depth to them.
HotS is an action brawler. You can compare it to games like Super MNC, Battleborn, and Paragon instead of saying that it's a moba.
>>154575313
>casualized
He's correct though in using that exact phrasing. There is a hard cap on skill level at a certain point in the game where diminishing returns on higher level logistics and fancy plays can only get you so far. Not that it matters as much, but just take a gander at the pro scene. Blizzard dumps a sizable amount of money into it to grab people that are embarrassingly bad. Mostly because the fundamental mechanics of HotS don't allow for anything outside of standard rotational plays. This isn't boring. It's just repetitive as fuck as most of the skills have a low impact feeling.
Just face it, this game is bound to go into the shitter moreso than it has since beta. The launch of the Starcraft maps likely won't change much in the long run.
>>154575794
that last part has a vibe that speaks volumes about the current state of the gaming industry.
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>>154575728
Looking at PTR patch notes, mostly his speed has been nerfed.
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going through a bad phase
if i become a ladder whore will i feel better?
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>>154575728
see >>154575794, there is literally no argument you people can bring up other than "its casul" or the odd "this other game has unnecessary game mechanics that add nothing to the tactical complexity of the game other than inconveniencing players"

>>154575973
>most of the skills have a low impact feeling.

literally what the fuck did he mean by this.
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>>154576074
no but if you become my whore ill definitelly make you feel better
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>>154575973
>You have the wrong perspective. The key is that those "archaic" mechanics have a ludicrous amount of niche elements and depth to them.
And I'm sure you can find a shit ton of depth in comparing the composition of various samples of sand from multiple beaches, but that doesn't make everyone want to become geologists.
Having niche elements is not the same as having quality elements. The deepest mechanic in the world is still bad if it is unenjoyable.
This is something Magic: the Gathering struggles with often. New, "interesting", and "complex" stuff is not in any way guaranteed to be fun or effective or appealing.
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can we stop responding to aborted lolbabby
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>>154575717
>inb4 people confuse her Sylvanas during games
>>154575747
>tfw want to play more Cho'gall but don't have a m8 to play with nearly often enough
>we will never get another ogre
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>>154576074
No, but playing Rexxar will help.
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>>154576215
You don't play games like these to have fun like some kind of peasant.
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>>154576369
>tfw Rexxar is still 10K
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>>154576128
just like you can just sit there and say 'nuh uh that doesnt matter' and 'i dont know what youre talking about' in place of an actual argument?

>>154576215
it being unenjoyable is Y O U R O P I N I O N

some people who have been playing these games for years find that lack of depth boring as shit
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>>154576527
i got rexxar for 10k and then i realized he was fun
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>>154576128
here's a comparison:

Blessed Shield: 1.5 second stun, half to 2 extra targets. Ult with 60s cooldown.

In Dota: Paralyzing Cask: 1 second stun, bounces to 8 total targets, can bounce to a hero multiple times. Basic ability with 14 second cooldown.

Plus all the damage abilities in hots basically just tickle the enemy. In dota spells are way more impactful. Most heroes in the early game do *more* burst damage than chromie, but instead of being able to mash all their buttons for 60s and still have mana they run out after like 3 casts. So instead of a game about spamming your spells constantly it's about casting them once and having things actually *happen* as a result of that.
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>>154576537
that is a perfectly normal reaction to straight up bullshit being spouted in your face to be honest family.
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>>154576601
Wise man.
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>>154576601
I want to get him but I got Thrall and Jaina for 10K and now they're cheap as fuck so I don't feel like playing this much for older heroes again.
I hope he might price drop in the near future.
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>>154576660
you have ADHD
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>>154574337
is this bait
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>>154576674
but it's not bullshit? i got 6gb left on this game

please convince me why hots is not only fun, but the best moba out there. can you even tell me why you think this is a 'good' game without throwing dota under the bus? what makes it different at its core?
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>>154574337
>implying I don't play both
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>>154576537
>it being unenjoyable is Y O U R O P I N I O N
Yeah and it's called a fucking target audience. A game for people with different opinions within the same limitations of the genre. They were not targeting DotA or LoL's audience who loves the fucking last hit bullshit.
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>>154576341
>>inb4 people confuse her Sylvanas during games
Because one is a former high elf and the other a blood elf?
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>>154576215
Here's another terrible analogy for you.
HotS is checkers. If you want to go brain dead for a while and want to have a sizeable amount of fun, go ahead.
A decent moba has elements of chess. You play in an objective based mentality for a while and see how it impact the match as a whole - which only happens because the length of games is longer. This results in a cascading snowball of entertainment and rewarding plays but only if you play in a way that is both appealing to you and effective for your team.
>>154576660
This is a really good explanation but I fear that blizzcuck will just disregard it and continue shitposting. Maybe he's one of those people that devotes his arguments toward defending the very companies that are exploiting his time. In other words, he just hasn't put enough extensive time into dota to see any of the benefits that it has for an ASSFAGGOTS game.
The only other thing I would say about the ability differences is that I feel as though one can actually see and feel the action going on in something more refined like dota based on the animation quality, sounds, resource management, etc.
>>154576774
Did you even read his post? He's saying that you're the one with ADHD because that is the definition of HotS in comparison to non action-brawlers. But there is way to much >implying going on here and not enough Li Li.
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>>154576698
Some heroes they don't drop price because they don't want beginners to the game getting them over some one easier to play. Rexxar might be one of those, because him and The Vikings are the only heroes in the game where you have to control more than 1 hero.
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>>154576698
rexxar sucks don't bother
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>>154577118
>Here's another terrible analogy for you.
That analogy is really terrible because it doesn't reinforce your attempted point at all (HotS is not a MOBA) when Chess and Checkers are both strategic board games. i.e. the exact same genre with different target audiences.
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>>154577084
Both are Elven women wearing hood, cloaks and are barely clothed.
Chances are pretty low but it'd be funny if somebody tried to focus Valeera only to realize he attacked Sylvanas instead.
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>>154577014
yet you are trying to say the game isn't casualized... or are you not aware of the point of conversation?
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>>154577230
Once Misha is fixed your probably going to see Rexxar a lot more, than you'll be back defending him because you can't think for yourself.
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>>154577283
too bad sylvanas is a purple corpse with gray hair and her color scheme has nothing to do with valeera.
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I know our game is good when baiters feel the need to stop by and tell us to not have so much fun.

Too bad our game is so much fun they dedicate their lives to trying to make it less fun.
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>>154577306
I'm pretty sure he's saying you're an autistic faggot that enjoys counting beans.
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>>154577527
its honestly fucking sad that developers cater to people like you lmao
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>>154577505
Too bad drawfag will never finish this picture. :(
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>>154577306
I'm saying it being streamlined doesn't make it inferior. "Casualization" is a mostly loaded term.
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>>154577242
You're missing the point and grasping for straws.
I don't even know why I expect any real discussion out of this board anymore.
>>154577631
Can't believe that was over a year ago already. This general used to actually have fun. Now it solely survives off of ironic shitposting (see the past 100 posts including me), laughing at Blizzard's SJW bullshit (see the tranny they advertise in order to rake in more players), and twitch streamers trying to un-neet themselves by feeding off the remnants of what used to be this community. feelsbadman
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>>154577489
>heroes having consistent color schemes
>in hots
lmao
do u know what skins are
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>>154577887
>You're missing the point
Your point is "it's not a MOBA because no last hits!" nigga. There's nothing to catch. Genres don't work that way. It's like saying Super Mario RPG is not an RPG because Mario does not wield a sword.
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>>154577632
im the one that started thing whole thing and i'm with you 100%. im installing the game because it's actually quite fun. i think laning is fucking stupid but actual 2v2/1v1 skirmish and objective control gets pretty complicated in this game with decent players

its retards like this guy >>154577527 who could never break silver in lol or 1k in dota that think the laning phase is just two guys standing around popping minions
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>>154575794
how is dota2 nowadays
i swore that i would never return unless they made it completely impossible for russians to queue up with english speaking people, but i climbed to roughly 5.2k playing only terrorblade and i thirst for his sexy ass voice again
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>>154577887
I'm sure the general will be more alive for a few days after Alarak and the new maps hit.
But then it's back to meme power.
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my shitposting is off the charts recently and i need a break

heres a parting gift and see you in a week
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HAHA
DEAD GAME
DEAD THREAD
How can you even LIVE knowing that even in the shit genre you game is the WORST??

LMAO
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>>154578450
did you try being american instead of a filthy yuropean

i have never seen a russian in my games
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>>154578526
i can only look at the thumbnail, god, i can't risk myself by opening it
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>>154578714
Are you going to get promoted, anon?
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>>154578701
haven't tried that yet
how come they can't just stay on their own fucking server though
why do i have to move aside
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>>154517728
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>>154578854
Because Putin dick big, you laughable yuro cuck
xaaxxaxaxaxaxaxa
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>>154578595
Because Rexxar.
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>>154578450

You lane for a long time, you last hit to farm, you plant your wards, you listen to your team mate's Russian techno, you hate everyone. You wait for the ganks, you saunter about going la la la to dodge skill shots, you throw your luck shots like sprinkling fairy dust, you suck yourself off for beating a Brazillian 12 year old who plays on a potato, what more could you ask for in a game?

The only better DotA 2-type MOBA is in the picture above. I heard it's not for casuals and you earn your fun with lots of work. You really need to farm your lanes hard in that game and really lay the seeds early to implement a successful strategy. Clearly superior to DotA 2's casual shit fest.

I'm sure they'll disagree but it's just out of their raging inferiority. That's the same reason they whine and complain to anyone else having fun in any MOBA that's not theirs.
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>>154579207
Don't acknowledge it.
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>>154579560
i actually kind of enjoyed stacking endless amounts of gold in dota 2, but i don't mind its absence in hots
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>>154579560
>you saunter about going la la la to dodge skill shots, you throw your luck shots like sprinkling fairy dust
this part is lol/hots not dota though
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>>154579619
>Not flaunting Rexxar every chance you get.
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>>154579953
>luck shots
>not using totally reliable death bolts that covers half the map at ludicrous speeds
I'm saying play Li Ming.
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>>154580162
Friendly reminder that Rexxar and Li Li are two of the best developed characters in WoW.
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>>154579953
>not casting every skillshot at face-to-face range just to ensure it hits
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>>154580360
>tfw one of the posts is me
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3 games in a row the draft failed
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Still need people for TL farming for the mount
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>>154582695
you've had plenty of time to do that asshole
join leddit channel or teamleague and ask there
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Going to stream my teamleague shenanigans
Fucking mount n shit

twitchtv/akaijii
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>>154583559
I don't think I can watch today bro, I'm working on improving my league so I can reap the rewards.

But if I get it done early I might be back, yours truly, your favourite shit talker on your stream.
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>guys dont facetank tych-
>FIRSTBLOOD
>oh, okay but dont overextend against thral-
>PING PING PING

Why do I even bother? They dont care anyway.
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i keep queueing for training or vs AI instead of quickmatch accidentally because all the screens look the same

it's really fucking annoying when you notice too late and then you're stuck in a loading screen for eight billion years just waiting for the game to start so you can quit out
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>Thread prognosis is 'Dead'.
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What is with Dragon Shire? I don't have anywhere near this high a win rate with other maps. For some reason all my ambushes tend to go off without a hitch. People are so predictable as to when they go for shrines or camps there, but never other maps.
Yes, I know this score includes AI, but I assure you AI games are less than 5% of my total so even putting them all in wins leaves a large discrepancy.
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>>154588293
>tfw 70% win rate on haunted mines
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>>154588293
It's the music imo, the Dragon Shire ost is fucking DOPE
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>>154588676
my brother
the only OST matched by Dragon Shire's is Cursed Hollow
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Hunt is not just an ult.

It's a way of life.
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>>154588754
Agreed my dude
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>>154564834
Movie.
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>>154588882
Did they buff that thing? its good to catch targets but you have to comit.
Fits Illidan I guess, dive, die, repeat, killed someone? good, complain why team isnt doing anything.
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GOD I needed that, the game before WE had the murky and leo with march.
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>>154589695
I was playing Illidan all day the other day and I was used to Metamorphosis since it was the choice back in beta, but the hunt is much more fun and it actually does around 30% to 40% of a squishy's health now.
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>Buy the Warcraft Movie on Blu-Ray/DVD and get Gul'Dan for Free!
>FOR
>FREE
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>>154590887
and what
must we give in return
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>>154590887
What? Are you 4 realz
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>>154590037
Yeah, and for getting picks is the best too
>>
How would you make ultralisk viable /hotsg/?
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>>154591949
summon 3 in every lane :^)
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>>154591949
Gains shield on attack?
Mimics your abilities like water elemental?
Spawns zerglings every x attack and when it hatches from egg?
Does the other ultimate when summoned?
Few suggestions off the top of my head.
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>>154591949
heals when dealing dmg
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I found this general on top of /vg/ for the first time ever

We do it
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>>154569427
I'd take any Jo skin without a dumb helmet
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>>154572587
I was playing KT for fun last night and was shocked at how bad he felt. I haven't touched him in 3 months

He just feels like a turd now. He has to be babysat by a tank to even just lane. Li Ming is better in almost every way. Hell, even Jaina feels more hardy than KT
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>>154574337
I started playing Overwatch and just couldn't take it seriously after a month. I played a lot of TF2 from 2009-2013 and that game is just so much better. Overwatch feels like a game of countering Ult abilities more than player skill.

I am excited for Zarya in Hots though
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I really should stop playing qm, I complained at falstad and got ??? in response.

As you can see, I'm pretty shit at being aggressive with Li-Ming. Can I get some tips on how to do it without getting killed instantly?
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ded, pls don't die before I wake up
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>HL placements
>5th player is hovering over lili the entire pick phase
>lili gets picked by the enemy team at the last second
>he goes hammer and our team loses to lmaonosupport
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is it good enough? how much of the playerbase is master+ ?

how hard is it to get into grandmaster?
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>>154598491
you need to get up to roughly 2400+ mmr if you want to be grandmaster, not quite as hard as it is tedious
i'm sitting at 2579 and i'm #308 on the leaderboard (EU) and by my best estimate i'd say like 1-4% of the playerbase or less are master+
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>>154597658
>Final placement match
>First pick Kerrigan
>I follow up with Rehgar
>Next three proceed to pick Raynor, Sylvanas, Gazlowe


We won.


Placed Diamond 3, was hoping for 1, was then going to attempt to push into Master as the only reason why I'm playing HL is for the mount and gold, but I can't be bothered to play that much just for the epic lizard I probably won't even use.
>>
I'm thinking of getting into this game, but what's a decent resource to learn the meta? What are team comps supposed to look like? Do they vary depending on the map?
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>>154598772
Diamond 3 is highest you can place lad.
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>>154599117
Oh alright. I guess I'll get on it earlier next season in case I come to like the epic lion. I didn't know that, thanks.
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>>154598859
>What are team comps supposed to look like? Do they vary depending on the map?
on average it's either 2 assassins - 1 tank - 1 support - 1 specialist
alternatively, 2 assassins - 2 tanks - 1 support or lastly 1 assassin - 1 specialist - 2 tanks - 1 support

and so forth, the only thing that's really not interchangeable is the support; as for maps the only thing that's really subject to change is maybe the specialist (sometimes you might just want to skip going for a specialist and go for an assassin with good waveclear if pushing and sieging isn't as important) but you're always going to need to have one support, one assassin and one tank at the bare minimum
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>>154598713
>2579 and i'm #308 on the leaderboar
is this for real
>>
tank and warrior are different things

the general rule is 1 support, 1 tank (warrior who can protect/peel for allies, e.g. not shit like sonya/artanis), 2 ranged damge (usually assassin but some are spec like hammer/sylv/zag), last slot is flexible (can be a 2nd warrior, melee damage, spec, maybe somethin weird like tlv or aba, et cetera)
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>>154599806
>>154600115
I do wish the would just separate the Bruisers from the Guardians. It doesn't make sense NOT to.
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>>154600089
it moved 2 spots since yesterday
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>>154599806
>>154600227
>>154600115
This is something that confused me, warriors seem to have two types.

Are there pairings that always lane together?
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>>154598713
Holy fuck EU is shit
>Diamond 3365 (MMR: 2770) NA
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>>154601539
He means masters points, not hotslogs mmr. Even if he did mean hotslogs mmr, NA and EU mmrs are incompareable because the two regions don't mix enough. As it is, comparing mmr between regions only indicates if there is a bigger or smaller gap between the lowest and highest ranks in a given region compared to another region.
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>>154600863
Laning is ALMOST non-existent in this game, so there isn't really any sort of "best lane pairs" or anything. Just general hero combos. This game is more about team fighting and objectives than laning, unless you're playing a siege/PvE oriented type of character, then you basically just push as hard as you can.
>>
>>154602880
>na is full of closet homos that talk about dick and sit in silver league

what else is new
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>>154600863
Azmodan and Leoric go well together in lane if Azmo's stacking for his Q talent.
>>
so like
how dead is this game
>>
>>154605140
somewhat, but not really entirely
you'll still find people playing, and with the upcoming event it's likely that more people will be around
>>
>>154578039
As that guy, I was diamond 1 back in season 2 when it actually mattered. Don't kid yourself, shitter.
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how is metzen's retirement going to affect hots
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749157269#post-1
>>
>Have a great game
>Low deaths
>high kills
>top of the leaderboard
>Perfect core to near dead core
>Suddenly teammate Dehaka starts throwing
>hard
>lose

fucking retards
>>
>>154606840
Unless Varian is already voiced we might not get him now.
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>>154583979
No worries bro, it was a shitfest anyway
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>>154607289

Maybe Varian will be his farewell of sorts.
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>>154578526
>Tyrande gettin creamed by a Nightelf Twink
heh, saved
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>>154591250
underrated post
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>>154607289
I would imagine he would do the voice acting for them even if he isn't working for Blizzard anymore. Spouting a few lines is not hard work
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>>154606840
Does that mean we can have different plot points other than
>lol corruption
>>
>>154594279
I played tf2 from launch until the end of 2008, then picked it up again from 2011-2012. Overwatch is shit. But the tf2 playerbase is shit now, and I don't really know what the Overwatch playerbase is like. I should have sold my tf2 backpack before they fucked with the trading.
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>>154606840
>Thrall gets his shit stomped off screen in legion.
>Weeks later Metzen quits.
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>>154609678
almost low hanging fruit
but thank you
>>
I kinda wanna come back to this game but not if its completely dead
>>
>>154612831
It's fine. More or less where it was several months ago. Big update coming tomorrow.
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>>154612831
It's not lol, but it's pretty active.

Try not to buy into the dead game memes. it's mostly just this thread that's dead
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>>154612831
Wait until the Starcraft content comes out. If you see people bitching about it here then consider the game not worth your time outside of a few matches a day.
>>
>>154606840
I actually really like his voice acting for Thrall. Especially in HOTS.
>>
>maint notice
>the times are in PDT
>for european servers
They don't even care about this dead game anymore
>>
>>154614863
>google pdt
>see time
>calculate in a couple of seconds
Europoors, everyone.
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>>154615130
I know what the time is in PDT but that doesn't make it acceptable to announce shit in PDT
>>
how many hours of this season we have left?
havent completed my placements yet...
>>
Is free Thrall tomorrow?
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>>154616059
~11h.

IIRC first three choices are Tyrande, Anub and Thrall.
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>>154614182
My favorite line ever will always be
"That's incredible!"
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>>154611082
Pretty sure he stopped writing for WoW a long time ago.
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does the ranked season end at the beginning of the day tomorrow or the end?
i still need to do 4 placement matches
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>>154620506
It ends when the server goes down for maintenance.
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I didn't make it to gold.
I guess I really belong in silver
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Am I the only one in this game that wants Gabriel Tosh released? Like really I'd play the shit out of him.
>>
>>154626662
>Another stealth based hero.

I'll pass.
>>
>>154626662
>wants a nigger in the game
>>
>d3
>no time to play
>sudden free time for one or two weeks
>social life stuff
>last 2 days
>56% winrate but couldnt make it out of diamond

Social life wasnt worth it, I'm depressed now at how shit I am.
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>>154627383
I'll take
>"What is Tyreal
for $300 please.
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>>154627464
at least he's hooded and you can't know unless you hear his voice
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>>154627541
At least his black face is camo'd in his black hood because he comes from the angelic hood and that his voice is black and his moveset is that of a gorilla flailing around a rod of rebar.
>>
>>154626662
I'd like him too, but how would he differ from Nova?
Maybe make him somehow a specialist instead of assassin? A really heavy unexpected CC for ganking and teamfights. Some way to sabotage buldings. Good mercing. Could work.
>>
1 placement matche i got a team of silver 5s + 1 bronze

next match my team's all gold

what the le fuck
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>>154606840
No, this can't be happening.

F
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>>154629632
>what the the fuck
You're gonna be gold
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>>154608532
>>154616248
>Metzen retires
>Varian dies
>Thrall retires
>Free Thrall in HotS
>Varian added into HotS as Metzen's last voice acted hero
That's just too deep lads.
>>
>>154627541
>>154627745
Tyrael is only black when he's human.
As an angel he doesn't have a face or even a body to begin with. It's all pixie dust in a suit of armor.
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>>154627383
xD
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>>154631120
Imagine a world where you can be anything you want. Why in god's name would you choose to be nigger?
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>>154631386
He just wanted to be like the coolest human he knew i.e. Deckard Cain.
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>>154631386
Are you retarded?
>>
>>154631836
Are you a nigger?
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>>154631386
because he doesn't care about pepe memes or donald trump?
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>>154631932
no
>>
>>154631932
Are u a cute grill?
>>
>>154630390
shit you were right
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>>154631120
>naked hands clearly visible and dark-skinned
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>>154634089
>better than gold5 l/demotion game
You're better than akaiiji
>>
is gold actually above average

you'd think so from the name but then there are 4 leagues above it and only 2 below
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>>154636110
I've still got that mentality back from when I was a shitter in my first assfaggots that gold is good, but when I see a gold player that's not the case.
>>
>>154636110
No, and actually if you check hotslogs, as far as ranked goes, platinum is the most populated, so most people are actually not gold, but plat.

One thing to keep in mind is that most of the shitters dont even queue ranked, so they could just be sitting at gold or silver forever, while they do QM.

I'd say above average is most likely plat 2+ when it comes to HoTS. Anything bellow that is average, and if you're in silver or bronze you probably just don't play ranked enough because legitimately being that bad is sad.
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>>154636110
Masters and Grandmasters are limited size leagues.
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>>154635537
Those are gloves you obvious double nigger.
>>
>>154636110
Silver is the middle-ground/average.
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>>154639876
>have veins on them
>>
Can it be, that the matchmaking is kinda weird? I'm lvl 18 and I always play against a full lvl 40 roster.
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>>154481214
This happened to me too a few days ago, ofc we got our asses kicked.

This player base's average IQ must be negative.
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>>154549178
Nice meme
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>>154588882
Hunt is never the right choice. Metamorphasis provides illidan with much needed survivability and aoe team fight damage
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>>154631120
once a nigger
>>
>>154641505
But muh "you are not prepared" voice line
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>>154641505
t. silver
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>>154641505
>Hunt is never the right choice
>>
2 hours until it is live right?
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>>154641696
>tfw this rather cool line has become a complete joke by now
>just like Illidan's entire character
>>
>>154641505
>not being prepared
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>>154643040
I agree with you on the line, imo Illidan character is still fine though
>>
>>154643040
The line is totally a meme

The character hasn't fallen that much

A true joke right now is Thrall or even Jaina
>>
>Spectre Nova
>Spectre Tracer
>Spectre Illidan
>?
>?
If we were to roll with a full spectre team, who would be the last two members?
Tosh would make sense since he's the spectre hero.
But who could get a spectre skin and it would fit.
Spectre Leoric or Sonya?
>>
>>154644642
wow in its entirety right now is a joke

everything about it is a joke
>>
>>154644642
Well Thrall is retired so he's probably not going to be important in the future anyway.
Jaina turning into a crazy cat lady is sad desu.
>>
>>154644780
Spectre Chen and Spectre Brightwing.
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>>154644795
Hey man, Gul'dan is still doing fine.
And he's probably going to remain fine since he'll be dead in two weeks or so.
>>
Boy I sure hope Auriel is fun, I updated the game just to play her desu
>>
>>154645041
>Spectre Chen
>instead of booze he carries a giant terrazine canister with him
It actually fits.
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So, my Lunara winrate is pissing me off. I'm pretty trash at everything, but every fucking Lunara game ends up being a struggle. What am I missing?

Other ranged assassins are hard, but not this hard.
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>>154645081
its been a slow death ever since wotlk. after the game finally died on WoD release it has just been a reanimated turd. guldan has nothing to do with it
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>>154645238
know when you can go deep and draft her in comps where you have good frontliners
>>
Oh shit, we new map now?
>>
>blizzard is STILL releasing the patch one day late in EU
>>
>>154645238
do you die a lot? work on your positioning and dodging skillshots and aoe.
generally poke the enemy frontline from a safe distance and wait for a good opportunity(maybe try to flank them; use your wisp to scout possible flank locations) to poison the enemy backline with Vine. save your W for when they try to retreat. that should enable your frontline to finish them off.
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>>154645238
its because you fell for the LUNARA meme

shes shit
>>
>>154646245
not him, but I usually take the double poison for slows talent, so I tend to vine as many targets as I can and then W
>>
Oh shit, red tint marine Rexxar has flames on the armor, but Misha has a picture of Mei on her butt.
>>
>>154647039
>Mei on butt
Mei is my bae not your bear fucktoy
>>
JAINA'S THICC THIGHS
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Is this another """female""" streamer?
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>doing tl placements with randoms

And here I thought QM was the worse
>>
>>154649193
don't be silly, that's Jaina
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>Tfw you're the mvp but you lost

M-my team
>>
>no dragon shire
oh my fucking god yES
>>
Patch when?
>>
So let me get this straight guys, they implemented the Overwatch voting system, but they left out the best part which is POTG? And to top it all off the voting system has 0 reward?
>>
>no easter egg
>AGAIN

>>154650078
>not being on US

>>154650118
seriously, they could at least have it affect MMR or whatever
>>
>>154650060
NOOOOO

My Falstad map, why?!
>>
>>154650167
hol hol up so you are telling me it doesn't even affect mmr when >>154650038
happens?
>>
>>154650167
I love this "no easter egg" meme posts on this hero and the previous two. Just epic memes.
>>
>>154650118
>POTG
That ain't happening with the starcraft replay system
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>the free hero thing is broken
Why am I not surprised.

>>154650252
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20245462/introducing-mvp-and-commendations-8-25-2016
>Instead of leaving it up to the game to completely decide who had the greatest or most impressive individual impact, we’re allowing everyone in the game to pick an awarded player to commend at the end of every match.
>Commendations serve as a virtual thumbs-up, recognizing the player that you thought earned some additional attention.
>By simply clicking the arrow underneath that player’s Award, you can boost them up and support their accomplishments for everyone to see.
>Allied chat will also be available for the duration of the Awards celebration, which should take about 15 seconds in total, so dish out commendations and say your congrats to any teammates who you feel deserved some praise!
>Players who receive enough commendations at the end of the match will be elevated to Epic or Legendary status and may even receive a little extra fanfare.
It's fucking nothing at this point in time.
>>
alright boys new patch is out, which hero did they break that won't be fixed for another 6 weeks?
>>
>>154650408
It's the same as in overwatch, were you expecting some rewards for getting upboated?
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>>154650610
-I- didn't.
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>>154650408
>It's fucking nothing at this point in time.
Why am I not surprised.
>>
why didn't i get thrall
help
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>>154645475
QM, man. I'm too trash at HL.

>>154646245
Understood. I regularly feel like I waste my vine, so I should save one for getting away. I do die too much late game. I tend to skip away early, but as soon as people have ults and are moving as 5, I tend to start feeding.

>>154646834
Haha. Probably.
>>
>>154652247
>LITERALLY bronze
>>
>machines of war has been released
>thread isn't alive yet
>>
>>154652329
I don't get why I am so bad at HL when my QM MMR is okay. But my placements went so badly that I haven't bothered with HL since before preseason. God that was frustrating.

I guess I just suck at the game and only do well when paired against garbage comps.
>>
>>154652658
Not in EU where it actually matters.

Is it gonna be released tonight or tomorrow?
>>
>>154652658
It's mid day NA and the kids are in school, adults are at work.
Only NEETS are here right now and we are (I am) playing right now. Thread will be alive tonight (5 more hours) as every normie starts asking questions and discussing first impressions in the most bronze fashion you can imagine (and even more then you can)
>>
>>154652843
tomorrow at 7am
>>
waiting on you NA bronzies for some sick new map strats and meta

don't dissapoint
>>
Alarak's telekinesis feels like it just does what it wants half the time.
>>
>>154653593
gotta git gud tbqh

there are numerous ways to utilise it.
>>
How do i play with you fine bronze americans?
>>
>>154653962
did you try reading the fucking OP?
>>
>>154654310
>>154654310
>>154654310
migrate whenever
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>>154644914
>crazy cat lady
just a smokescreen for when she ascends to dreadlordhood
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>>154653962
Seriously read the fucking OP you mong.
Fuck the discord though, that's just a bunch of faggots the post inane shit and use it as a secret club.
/vg/ chat is where you'll find games with people who want to play the damn game. Just make it known you are looking for games or request to join any parties you see that have an open spot.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hep-bsMW1rU
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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