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Solo hunter edition

>News
-http://www.capcom-unity.com/monster_hunter/blog/2016/07/28/monster-hunter-generations-2016-tour-kicks-off-in-toronto-on-aug-6th
-http://gematsu.com/2016/08/capcom-announces-tgs-2016-lineup
-http://www.siliconera.com/2016/05/16/capcom-new-monster-hunter-game-along-major-titles-planned/

>I have a question!
http://pastebin.com/7Aa6HxUh
Includes links to the FAQ, weapon guides, charm info, and more.

http://mhgen.kiranico.com/
Database with weapon trees, item locations, drop rates, etc.

https://sites.google.com/site/pingsdex
Same thing, in application form.

>Where does /vg/ play?
Create or find a Gathering Hall
Passcode: 7243 / Search
In Generations, Objective: Gathering
In 4U, Target: Fishing

Tags: MHGen, MH4U, MH3U, MHFU, MHO, MonHun, /mhg/

Previous thread >>154316712
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>>154389019

Asking in the new thread!
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SEEEEEEEEEE YAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>154389024
>decide to bite the bullet and make the silver meme set
>those fucking stupid wings
Nope.
Can't do it.
Gotta find another set, that's too fucking stupid looking.
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>>154388632
linking for anyone who wants it
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Should I get Generations or 4U or both?
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>>154389312
Your opinion is stupid!
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>>154389312
It's still miles better than the Honed Blade clownsuits from 4U.
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>>154389171

Does God's Island need Recoil Down +3, by the way? Hovering over it right now, it says it has Low recoil. Don't I only need two levels of Recoil Down to get it to Minimum?
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Are you a solo hunter, /mhg/?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11176185
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>>154389640
True, but I wasn't able to make the honed blade clownsuits, and mostly gunned in 4u.
I actually have the needed charms this time around, and want to try everything for styles/arts.
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Ahh, I remember making this set and never using it because it was an eyesore.
Good times.
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A bit late on this, sorry guys.
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>>154389795

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!
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>>154389791
>that
>eyesore
there is so much worse out there, anon
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>>154389791
>>154389640
>>154389312
this is why semi-useful stats on a decent looking clownsuit always are the best of both worlds
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>>154389791
Looks okay besides that helmet
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>>154389974
>actually made gyceros armor useful
>actually made the garuga mask not look like complete shit
what the fuck? are you some kind of fashion genius?
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>kill 50 vespoids
>kill 50 bnahabras
>kill 20 konchus
>kill 50 vespoids and hornetaurs
>kill 50 bnahabras but in another map
>kill 50 vespoids but in high rank this time
>kill 20 konchus as cats
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>can't even be fashionable as a cat because I need to be naked to attain the ultimate power
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Can you faggots just agree that 4U is ten times better than this poor excuse of a MH game, and stop crying about gathering quests?
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Is hyper Glaveanus supposed to have a small delay on the spinning beyblade attack or was it just online lag on my end?

Every time the charge started the sound and visual cues were out of sync and I ate every hit as a result. The grinding sound cue sounded a bit slowed down.
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>>154390317
i'd rather do gathering quests than spend another couple hundred hours shooting electric harambe in a purple cave
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>>154389024
>>154389682
>>154389795

Wow....
So this is the power...
.....
of
dedication.....
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>>154390374
Have you not hunted any other hypers before? They ALL have delay on the charged attacks, but faster animation of the attack itself.
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>>154390510
MORE
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>>154390317
I thought most people here considered 4U the better game.

Guild quests weren't very good, though. So i rarely played them
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>>154390604
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>>154390540
First time fighting hyper glavenus and I never really noticed it when fighting the others. I guess it's because most monsters don't have a really big windup charge that I never noticed it before.
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>>154390620
4U was better overall, but I like Deviants at least. Its just the ticket system that's garbage.
That said, GQs were fun too, but Apex (though manageable) and the randomness of relics were garbage.

Both have their issues.
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>>154390658
Good lord.
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>>154390658
>>154390510
Got any with more detailed faces?
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>>154390067
>>154389974
no... i am.... KAMEN RIDER GARUGA
it also has: HGE, Bonus shot, Weakness exploit and covert, which is basically, sneak, combination pro and load up
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>>154390823
I'd love to see deviants come back, but with the ticket system different. Maybe you trade tickets for certain parts you need.

Or would that be too easy?
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I swear fucking plesioth is trying to take its revenge for casting machine in 4U
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>>154390970
oh and if needed, the bowgun can be switched freely without affecting the set at all
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>>154390981
For starters, have everyone who joined the quest getting their own checkmarks instead of the one posting the quest only.
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>>154389524
Both, if you have the money to blow.
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>>154390317
Can 4underage just leave and never return? I had enough of your cancer when it was alive
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>he hasn't fought a black mizutsune yet
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>>154391504
Shit, he does have a deviant after all.
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>>154389664

Anyone around that could answer this for me? I can fit in Trap Master if I don't have to go all the way to Recoil Down +3
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What is the hayabusa meme set? And is that good for dual blades?
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>>154389640
False!
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>>154391504
i want black mizu to fuck my wife
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>>154389640
>garuga mask
>rajang waist
>rajang legs

choosing the worst pieces on purpose doesn't really count now does it?
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Rate my set
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>>154390317
4U is shit too.
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>>154391504
>Black Mizu is actually the femle variant of the ones we fight in game
By the Eternal Alchemy, it all makes sense now. The reason we dont see them in game is because they were dummied out Devints :^)
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>>154391882
It's a full set. What's there to rate?
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Is it ok when Solo Guild Quests only take about 5 minutes longer than the same village quests with the same gear? How big is the HP inflation in 4U?
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>>154390965
W-what do you mean?
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How the fuck do you beat Savage Deviljho
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>kill hyper agnaktor
>doesn't unlock hyper agnaktor cat armor

i hate this game

>>154391981
You can search monsters in Kiranico and see how much HP they have in all quests
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>>154391504
Wonder what kinda CQ that is.
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>>154392098
>Bring Dung Bombs for its pins possibly combines for more when you're terrible at avoiding it

>Hit it with lots of lightning element in its torso/legs like regular Jho

>Bring poisoned/Tinged meat when its drooling to avoid defense down. Also, Adamant Seeds in the case of getting hit with D.Down, anyway.
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Holy shit why didn't you guys tell me Yian Garuga was fun?
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>>154392432
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>>154392432
That was pretty much the entire point of last week's threads.
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65-8891-7619-8853
Anything (MHGen)
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>>154392432
he's not, though?
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>>154392125
>apparently need to complete the coal still burns and deliver a billion pieces of coal

Shit. Anyone wanna run this garbage quest with me?
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>>154392736
Just solo that shit with prowlers, anon.
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Just unlocked Deviants. I'm curious though; do they begin to show up in the regular quest list or are they just there on the side in case you want to grind for the weapons and armor?
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>>154393042
The latter. They're pretty much only appear in the special permit quests.
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I stumbled across a sharpness +5 fire attack +10 OOO charm, so I have one question.
Best fire weapon(s) of every type?
(without S+1/2)
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>>154392245
My game is bugged. All monsters large and small are black in area 4 of Misty Peaks. No idea why.
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>>154389312

Picture?
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>>154393308
You got a special blacklist version, post name to win a prize
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>>154393308
Oh, you've been shadowpooled
Happens when you get blacklisted too many times
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>>154393389
don't have a picture, sorry.
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>>154389312
but... i like it...
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I can't make silver meme. Which of these should I make instead?
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>>154393629
Literally nothing there doesn't look like trash
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>>154393629
Critical boost is the reason crit is so good this time around.
>C3
You might be able to make something at least like the memeset if you didn't do that.
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>>154392605
>he
Don't talk about my gf like that
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>>154393695
if you WANT to use silver meme you've probably already given up on looking good
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>>154393806
Silver meme isn't even that bad, only wings are spoiling everything
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Man, i was really into charge blade and now 60 hunts later with it i'm getting real fucking tired of this.
It feels like i'm bending myself over twicefold with these bajillion different combos, weapon buffs and finishers while i could just whack it with a switch axe instead.
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>>154393308
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Anyone have that pic of all the weapon arts/styles where the bottom row is bow and everything but adept is varying versions of "why" and 2 of the lance are just pictures of tortoises?
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>>154389171
>>154389664
>>154391598
Recoil Down +3 is necessary to hit Min recoil with a silencer. Without it, Crag 3 and Clust 3 will possess kickback. If you're going really status and trap heavy, you could forego using those shots and let the damage come from your LBB+s and your teammates. It's your call.
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>>154393731
wew
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>tfw Kecha basicly collapses under you from exhaustion while you keep assauting him
>tfw you break parts on Tetsu you didn't even knew could break
>tfw you start bludgeoning monsters to death because you don't want to get out of your chain to sharpen
>tfw you realize you're an endurance hunter
People who aren't soloing guild quests are really missing out.
Totally worth starting all over.
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Arisen Phoenix onn HH is such a dumb, wonderful thing.
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>>154394239

This is why hammer is the best.

It's the most simple weapon in the game, literally just whack a monster till it dies.

Nothing complicated.
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>>154394536

I was starting to lose hope and thought I'd never get a reply. Thank you!

What's my shot rotation supposed to look like if I'm solo hunting? Sleep > Bomb > Para > Crag/Clust > Repeat?
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>>154394239
Sounds like you need to go back to greatsword
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>>154394772
>solo
You don't or use musket
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>>154394698
I have a bad habit of making Hammer more complicated than it needs to be, because I feel like I HAVE to get KOs, otherwise I may as well not be there.

It's killing me.
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>>154394698
GS is actually the simplest

Hammer has charge attacks that do different things based on both level and if you're moving or not while GS charge attacks are static, though it can charge on two attacks instead of 1

>>154394956
Side smash has 15 mv but a ton of KO, it's really easy to hit with but you shouldn't rely too much on it because hunts will take an eternity
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>>154394956
>I HAVE to get KOs, otherwise I may as well not be there.
Correct. If you're not getting KOs, might as well play a GS.
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>>154394584
>0.96
it's not all that helpful sometimes when it's this early, dumbo, try looking at the other skills each set included in yours has, plug those in see if they work.
Also if you'll look you'll see your def rose by 59.
The main draw of the meme set is that you can use any weapon regardless of slots, which is huge in this slot starved game. but since you don't have that luxury I'd start entering max weapon slots to at least 1.
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>>154394772
Spend all of your status shots first, then move on to explosive shots. Once the monster is hit by a status it'll build up tolerance towards its cap, and the cap gets higher after every proc of the same status.

And yeah, don't solo with God's Island. The thing about parasleep spam is that you have 3 teammates to abuse it with. The Lost Musket exists if you want to solo with that set.
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>>154393242
Anyone?
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Are any of the astral/polaris weapons worth making? Currently using astral gemini, thinking of crafting astral capricorn too due to the high blue sharpness.
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Am I playing Insect Glaive wrong or something?

I'm like looking at MH4U videos and all IG users repeatedly vault, where I only vault when the monster is in rage

Did I fuck up for 60 hours by not vaulting all the time? They're always trying to mount it, does that make kills faster? I feel like a shitter.
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>>154395338
Skalvia is best shit ever
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>want to learn SA
>go to do the 6* quest for the hunter art unlock
>Lavasioth, Shogun, and NikNak

I have never experienced a fight during which I was filled with rage on this level. Why did it have to be the three worst monsters to fight with GS in the entire game
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>>154395165
But I don't enjoy GS. I like smashing things in the face with a rock on a stick.

>>154395116
I use the side smash a lot to transition into golf swings quicker even though I'm super bad at hitting them, but I'll keep in mind that it does more KO outright.

Any advice on when it's best to use the level 2 spin? I almost never do because I feel like the commitment is too much, but at the same time, my whole perception of Hammer is a bit skewed, I think.
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>>154395338
they're not bad with raw, and the mile of blue sharpness is pretty good

>>154395519
stop watching frenchies play IG then. There's not much reason to vault unless you want a mount or are playing aerial
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35-0298-3618-3971
/mhg/ turns room
come and do things
usual pass
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>>154394649
Already I'm playing solo. Everyone just want to do keys and deviants shit and took forever fill a room for regular quests
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>>154395172
Well I'm specifically trying to make a set for hellblade weps. Eh screw it I'll just use full ukanlos for now.
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>>154395272

I see, I see. Striker for modified MVs, the two Absolute arts, and Full House III?

Also Load Up vs Bonus Shot, what's your opinion?
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>>154395767
i can't even find rooms to do keys so i ended up having to solo all of them

this is tricking me into gitting gud at least, but no amount of soloing will make being a prowler in the volanic hollow fun or easy
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>>154395272

Follow-up question: Would you suggest a different skill set for the Musket?
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If Im gonna be playing adept CB, whats the one skill I need
I assume its absolute evasion
heal phials is trash, energy sword seems like its missing out on a ton without limit break
and limit break is probably ok by itself
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>>154396203
Absolute Readiness, senpai
FREE Whetstones, and is literally twice as effective with Sharpness, a mandatory CB skill
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>>154396203
Why the hell would you need evasion on an adept set? Anything but that. You already have perfect blocks and adept evades with axe mode.
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>>154395563
>>154395684
Thanks for the input, anons.
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>>154395632
I just don't use it
I know there are opening when you can/should but I just don't have them down so I uppercut and superpound everything
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>>154396203
Energy Sword is almost a guaranteed stagger if you hit with it. You can do some dunking if you get good.

Readiness is good if only for the sharpening. CB eats sharpness like a whore.
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>>154396203
Even with only 5 phials it still racks decent damage. But it has a long wind up and an awkward angle, so it can be awful against quick enemies or ones with tight hitboxes. Frenzy fever is a good alternative to readiness, in case you think it isn't helping you much.
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>>154396059
Japs typically go with recoil 3, load up and true shot up.
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>Gypceros stole simple Pitfall Trap
>Quest: Catch a Gypceros
THIS IS THE FUCKING REASON
WHY YOU ALWAYS BRING YOUR OWN TRAPS
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>>154396627
Awooo
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>>154396605
>Gypceros Deviant
>On-site Items only
>Capture NiggerThief Gypceros
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Holy shit Hyper Lavosioth is a fuckin pain.
I can't predict the timings for shit.
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>>154396605
It knew.
cleary rubber chicken is not as stupid as it looks
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>>154394437
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>>154394437
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>>154397401
>gaburias
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>>154397549
Guild Gunlance is a turtle but Adept Gunlance is a SNAPPING turtle.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EXubg0QPY8
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>>154397846

Still not as memorable as the Blos roar.
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>>154397846
It's not the same without the music
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>>154397549

I don't understand any of these.
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>>154396576

Looks like I can add Sneak and Trap Master if I really want to. Thanks for the suggestions.
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>>154397549
Many thanks.
I still don't understand if the person who made it considers some to be good or bad.
>adept SNS
>Striker and adept hammer
>aerial lance
>everything but adept LBG, full house is obvious
>Adept HBG
what's up with these?
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>>154397846

Gimme a Peco doing the Jho roar.
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>>154395861
God's Island doesn't care about MVs, but the two Absolute arts and the faster charge on arts does make Striker more desirable.

I'd get rid of Ammo Saver and get both Load Up and Bonus Shot, but if that's not possible, use Load Up. 4 lv2 status shots in quick succession > 3 lv2 status shots in quick succession.

>>154396059
Recoil Down +3, Load Up and Ammo Saver is the bee's knees for Lost Musket.

>>154396576
>True Shot Up
For Triblast and Cannon S? I don't find it worth it really. With the amount of ammo you go through with the Musket, Ammo Saver has a lot of occasion to proc, and I think the extra shots you spend not needing to make would compensate for the loss in power in those 15 shots.
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i went back to mh4u today to pick up where i left off
the fight i stopped on was g crimson fatalis
i stopped again.
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>>154397549
>striker and aerial bow are nothing but why
Gets me everytime
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>>154397549
use english, not memes
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>>154395519
>I'm like looking at MH4U videos and all IG users repeatedly vault

maybe stop watching 4man lets plays by retards and watch actual hunters instead?
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>>154398380
I'd probably get the joke if i tried out gunning.
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>>154398462
aerial bow is objectively terrible - an aerial hit is a level 2 charge. level 2 is shit damage. bow is a weapon that lives and dies off a level 3 charge

i can't speak to striker bow. i think you lose powershot which is fucking awful
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>>154398462
you would, because bow arts suck shit, and aerial bow is retarded.
Compared to adept which is an instantaneous positioning combined with a full charge, it's absurd.
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>>154398326

I'd need an improbably good charm to get Bonus Shot, Load Up, and Recoil Down +3, and I don't want to charm edit. Thank you for the suggestion, though.
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>>154397549
>that Aerial LS
Holy fuck it's true. Somehow that makes it much more appealing.
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>>154397549
>everything in Hammer
'Bout right
Seriously fuck striker Hammer
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>>154398326
Personally I use ammo saver too but jap TAs use true shot a lot.
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>eat for Lucky Cat/Unlucky Cat
>end up spawning with minimum health and stamina
>and right next to HR Teostra
Easiest cart of my fucking life ASDFSDFASDFASDF
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>>154397549
As literally the only Aerial Lancer in the entire game right now that is pretty accurate.

But it's really fun. I perform advanced Wyvern dentistry and you better have felyne insurance because my rates will cost you a tail and a leg!
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>>154399119
ANCIENT POTION
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>>154397549
I understand all of these except what the fuck striker horn is supposed to be.
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>>154397549
This makes me want to start playing HH
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>>154399412
Go for it, it's loads of fun
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>decide to try out Guild LS with Sakura and Unhinged
>6* Gore because Gore is awesome
>kill the absolute fuck out of it in just over five minutes

It's no TA 'cause I had cats, but holy fuck. That's insanity.
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>>154393242
At a glance, considering the two best of each when in doubt:
GS - Glavenus Array
LS - Wyvern Blade "Flare" or Dancing Hellfire
SnS - Glinting Glavenus or Daze Eye
DB - Twin Star Blades
Ham - Glavenus's Uruga
HH - Glavenus Horn or Dreadking Horn
Lnc - Spear of Prominence
GL - Glavenus Brewer or Lavasioth Gunlance
SA - Rath Blaze Splitter
CB - Crater Blade or Hellspawn Blade
IG - Blazing Halberd
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>>154398189
Adept LBG and HBG is max payne.
Aerial lance is godawful -> empty rows of seats -> nobody uses it.
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>>154389682
Fuck no, the only way solo hunting is viable for late game and elder fags is to be a min maxing try hard using op weapons.
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>try out nearly any set in the ASS
>Hermitaur R
HR 110+ and still don't have the quest to hunt a lowly hyper hermitaur. What is this shit?
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>>154391323
I don't, for now. Which of the two should I prioritize?
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>>154400174
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>>154400174
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>>154400303
You need to have cleared Advanced: Teostra's Return in Village.
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>>154391882
Rate mine
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NIBELSNARF IS CUTE!

CUUUUTE!
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Is it possible for devs to add new monster for dlcs or do they need to rewrite code and stuff like that. I miss the shitty mons like barioth, he looked pretty rad.
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>>154399806
thanks, dude.
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>>154400746
To hunt one of the easiest monsters in the game? What kind of backwards bullshit were they thinkin?
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>>154401006
All Monster Hunter DLC is just on-cart dummy coded stuff the amount and type of stuff they can import is limited.
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>>154400897
If the version with ammo saver instead of weakness exploit requires a fastcharge+5 OOO charm what unholy godcharm does this require?
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>>154401291
Don't worry, I still have the image saved of when I asked myself the same question yesterday.
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>>154400350
Mhgen for online although 4u isn't bad online. You can find rooms doing hr. But yeah 4u for the more complete package and gen for online
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>>154401571
Fuck me.
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What do you need to unlock Hyper Tigrex?
I thought it was Hyper Lavasioth but I just did it and I don't have it, nor do I have any new requests.
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>>154393308
requesting the image of Royal Bluedroth
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>>154401571
>Tenderizer +7
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N7lqzdSzNl1o_W8JiYyQz_cXDXJEE_Ur4myI4Uf0F7E/edit#gid=649773752
Well now, that's interesting
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>>154402115
Ah, wait, shit. Slots. I'm retarded. Still, ridiculous fucking charm
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Best quest to get monster broth?
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>>154401571
>save edited
Lmao
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>>154402284
Native Spear for one of the 'kill 50 gnats' quests
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>>154401939
It's the last quest of Felcote's questline. Check how far you've got it in your request log.
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>shagaru's tail is almost the same color as the grass in the sanctuary
why the FUCK
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>>154400897
>>154401571
Cheater, probably didn't even hunt hyper jho 3 times/10
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>>154402438
I hunted hyper Jho at least 15 times, ur just jealous
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>>154402420
That's why I always carve it as soon as it comes off.
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>>154402346
Turns out that Hyper Lava is the unlocker, I just needed to do another quest to get her to give it to me.
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Why did I waste my time on thos Stonefist set
Why is Bubbles such a shit skill

I just wanted to use a cool set that not everyone and their damn mother uses
Why
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>>154402725
You wanted to be different. And that's all right anon. It's alright.
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>>154402725
Anon-san, stop trying to he a hipster and just use grorious Rath gear.
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>>154399996
ah, gotcha.
How about the other LBG and striker/adept hammer?
Those are the ones I'm the most curious about.
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>>154402808
Thanks, mom
I guess I'll just resolve myself to never get fucking hit ever so I can keep this buff
I made the damn thing, so whatever

>>154402869
FUCK you and your raths
Also, FUCK Wrath of Rath
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Holy fuck, why did I decide to try Gold Rathian with a HBG when I have less than 30 hunts total with the weapon ever?
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>>154402343
Piece of shit bugs keep giving monster fluid.
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>>154401013

Theres a DLC Hyper Hermitaur quest out you carried nigger
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>>154403219
Then go higher rank, lad
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>>154402947
Guild LBG is the pistol from Doom, to contrast to the fucking tank that is HBG. No idea about the rest.
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>>154402725
>tfw building stonefist because fashion hunting
The skills are not good but yeah
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>>154403272
I am! I can't go any fucking higher you twat!
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>>154403018
Use a weapon with super armor for ez bubbles
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>>154403341
Shit, nigga, your game is bugged then
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>>154403404
Fuck you. Buzz off with that shitty pun.
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>>154403018
It could be worse anon, i decided to try hyper steve with dual blades with around less than 10 hunts, all of which were in 3u.
with INVISIBLE dual blades, at that
it was a new experience in awful
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>>154402725
>cannot evade
>stonefist for fashion
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Increased hp on hypers was a mistake
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Anyone else feel like they have to stop including Rathalos? He's in literally every game

I'm getting sick of him
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>>154404036
me too
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Want your checkmarks? Come grind out these LR shit quests. 63-9006-0635-3294. Usual code. Let's just take turns to get them over with.
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>>154404110
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>>154404110
Well, he is the mascot of the series, basically.

They seriously need to revamp his moveset, though. He deserves better.
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I just realized I made a terrible mistake
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>tfw getting so butthurt at everything I'm about to go Adept DBs
The cancer is spreading
I'm afraid it is too late for me
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>>154404110
>not including series mascot
Not happening ever. But yes, it should go along with dromes, zinigger, khezu, gravios, rajang, shogun, garuga and other assorted cancer
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>>154404198
>fix the roar into fireball
>Or roar into windpress
>or silly looking insta poison claw from across the map
That last one especially. That should create a sonic boom with how fast he seems to go.
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>>154404198
He's only the mascot because of how they fucking force the player to fight ten million of them so they are the first monster that pops into anyone's head when they think of Monster Hunter
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>>154404198
>Well, he is the mascot of the series, basically.
that title goes to felynes
i'd say rathalos is more like the charizard of MH
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>>154404110
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Do we know how well MHGen sold in the west?
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>>154404401
>Felynes are the mascot
Good god, no. I refuse to believe it.

I REFUSE
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>>154404356
Are you adept?
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>>154404485
Stay mad
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>>154404612
I am but I'm trying to bow in area 3 of Frozen Seaway. This shit is almost as bad as Volcanic Hollow.
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>>154404401
Poster boy is more adequate.
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What's the basic damage formula again?
I don't know how big an impact negative affinity really has
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>>154404698

Wait what the fuck you can play as a cat now?
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>>154405090
Critical hit is 1.25 damage, negative is 0.75. Thus every 10% affinity is +/-2.5% mean dps.
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>>154404772
Fuck off back to discord CIA.
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>>154405160
what kind of rock have you been living under?
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>>154405090
If I'm not mistaken, every 10% affinity equates to about 2.5% raw on average.
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>>154405160
I never play as them, i just don't find it very fun in comparison to hunters.
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So I unlocked at HR62 am i good enough for you faggots or do i go to the memelist?
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>>154405265
That's pretty good.

I unlocked at 42
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>>154405090
Raw * (1 + (.25 * x)) = adjusted raw for affinity
Where x is your affinity expressed as a decimal.

>>154405198
>>154405248
This is also true. (1 + (.25 * .1)) = 1.025 = 102.5% damage.
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>>154405384
>tfw unlocked at 26
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>>154405265
Very nice.
Unlocked at 59 myself.
You're still a degenerate cuteposter though, so you still belong in the list.
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>>154405265
Same as >>154405384
42
Now the question is did you kill the spoopy squid solo and how long did it take?
I'm more just curious, 62 is a good rank to unlock at and the actual squid time doesn't really matter that much.
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>>154405541
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>>154405384
I played with 3 friends and did alot of low rank, so i unlocked at 42 as well
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>>154405563
95 And yes, I also killed the squid solo.
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>>154405594
>>154405563
Jeeze i guess 42 is the magic number after all.
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Trying again. Anyone interested in indulging in some 3U nostalgia?
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>>154404036
>Increased hp in G-rank was a mistake
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>>154405783
Not if you don't have anything that needs to be hunted. I don't do aimless.
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MHXG reveal in less than a week /mhg/.
What deviants would you like to see in it?
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>>154405783
I only have a 3ds with no pc, so i cannot
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>>154405839
That's not an issue because you get G-rank weapons to even it out. In Gen you don't.
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>>154405563
It took me 15-20 min. I dont know if that's fast or slow but the fight itself seemed pretty easy. Wack the squid a milion times till dead and never getting close cart
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>>154405897
You're going to get blown out just like the Sonyggers did when they claimed Vita and the PS3 were getting 3U and 4.

There were days you could collect tears. large tears. But that day, endless tears.
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>>154404036
The issue isn't HP, really. It's the inflated numbers on everything else, like stagger resistance and, most egregiously, no fucking fatigue. Fuck that shit.
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>>154405839
G rank at least increased numbers from your side too, here if you play a weapon without a good offensive art you're just fighting a monster with 2x hp
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>>154404460
Depends on how many people didn't steal it through piracy. I'm going to assume at least half the people here and everyone who uses tacospeak stole their copies.
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>>154406024

I'd love to play on the Vita instead of the 3DS.
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>>154405897
>he still thinks there's going to be a MHXG
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>>154406169
Then go and play god eater
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>>154406160
>Implying 4chan is at all an accurate representation of the western market
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>>154400303
>>154400746
>>154401013
>Over HR +100
>Hasn't even completed village yet.
Normally I have no problem with people doing online stuff before doing village, but you one lazy nigger if you don't have a set built yet.
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>>154406287

But that's not Monster Hunter.
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>>154406023
Well that's actually pretty good for solo, and especially with certain weapons. One dude TAs Spoopy with every weapon and even he got 15 minutes on some of them. ... And sub 5 on SA

I got 23 myself, but my excuses are that I use hammer and that was my first time fighting HR squid.
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>Kill Hyper Agnaktor
>Doesn't unlock hyper agnaktor cat armor
>finish Harth Chief's requests to unlock yper armors
>doesn't unlock hyper agnaktor cat armor
>obtain all hyper agnaktor cat armor mats
>doesn't unlock hyper agnaktor cat armor

WHO DESIGNED THIS SHIT GAME

WHAT THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO DO TO UNLOCK THIS FUCKING UMBRELLA
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>>154405979
hyper times being the usual sub5-sub7 suggest otherwise. maybe not be terrible?

>>154406121
>I don't actually want harder quests I just want G-rank for no reason
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>>154406326
You're the retard. I don't need anything from those quests yet. I'm busy actually making other sets. When something calls for Teo then I'll fight him.
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>>154406440
No need to act like such a prick because not everyone can sub 7 most hyper monsters.
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>>154406390
>and even he got 15 minutes
>implying SCORPION does anything worse than sub10

09`56`01 for Hunting Hurn friend. Less reddit for you.
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>>154406432
You mean the GS umbrella? I forgot what I even did but one day it was there.
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>>154406440
>increasing hp and attack is difficulty
Fubabs pls go
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>>154406817
Did you even visit his channel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MUOaWb_eow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE0FA6DejAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woyBK1tAZSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUaltMlV8io
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>>154406246
I'm pretty sure its gonna be an MHXG.

MHG is unfinished and rushed and half-broken and is essentially the first game in a new series in terms of content and quality, so it only makes sense to get a G follow-up.

lets just put it this way, capcom pissed off a lot of people with Gen's lack of content and if they're going to follow it up with something that doesn't expand upon MHG then we're just looking at another content-starved first-version game, which I will never get fuckin' roped into buying again. fooled me once with Generations.
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>>154406432
>hunted agnaktor once
>not even finished requests
>set is there
Have you tried getting items from reward box instead of selling them all
And actually soloing your shit
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>>154405463
Hey friend what's your IGN? :)
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>>154407098
>his channel
Less reddit for you.
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>>154407193
>lol i already unlocked them shitter, u mad?

here's your (You)
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>>154407489
it's Charlotte
and u? =)
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Daily reminder that Astalos is pretty much a rath.
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Best full set for Hammer?
Using Tigrex hammer so my current set with Handicraft would go to waste.
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>>154406561
Sounds like you're just butthurt that I'm right about you being lazy.
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>>154407129
If it's MHXG this will be the first localized MH game I choose not to buy since joining in on the series. (excluding tri since i don't have a wii)

Guess you could consider freedom 1/2 first-version games, but i was a kid and too shit to get to endgame so it didn't matter back then.
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>>154407692
Sorry that I haven't racked up the hundreds of hours hunting deviants and other shit.
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>>154407676
Probably Dreadking.

Which is bad news for me, because I refuse to farm it.
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>>154406918
No, I mean the Hyper Prowler Umbrella. I have no interest in making an Agnaktor GS but I can't fucking figure out how to unlock this shit because someone had the bright idea to make cat and hunter armor unlock with different tedious quest chains
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>>154404381
>Zinogre, Khezu, Rajang, Gravios, Shogun, Garuga
Cry me a river bitch. I don't even like Zinogre and I even agree that Gravios needs some refinement.
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>>154407907
You should have finished all the village quests in sub 100 hours. Git Efficient.
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>>154407931
I also agree that Gravios needs to be refined into oblivion
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>>154408092
I'll do them when I want to do them asshole. It's only 3 or 4, not like other players who haven't checked off the lower 3 village quest tiers or hub.
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>>154408092
In his defense half of them are boring as fuck and i avoided the annoying ones as well.
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>>154408280
Then stop going 'WHY HASN'T THIS QUEST UNLOCKED AFTER SO HOURS? WAHH!'
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>>154407651

>that picture

cringe
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>>154408531
I'm not you idiot. I'm wondering why something as entry tier as a hyper hermitaur is locked behind more difficult quests.
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>>154408626
>Village Teo
>Difficult
There's your answer.
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>>154404381
>rajang
>zinogre
why

These are literally the only two monsters not including the 4th gen super-monsters in monster hunter that are actually monsters and not just some retarded dragon who makes a hobby out of getting fucked or having a retarded moveset.

Stygian Zinogre an Furious Rajang are the epitome of M O N S T E R
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>>154408773
This won't end well.
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>>154408626
the request log reward says "quest unlock"
You're doing one quest to unlock the ability to do several more.

Also, village Teo is probably easier than a hyper hub monster, even if it's low tier.
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>>154408596
You must be at least 18 years old to use this website.
:^)
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>>154408767
Whatever anon, I'm tired of your shit and complaining of people complaining. Don't answer and take your easily got frustrations out on monsters. It's as easy as that.
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Is D. Island the most aesthetically pleasing and natural looking area in all of MH?

Yes

Why was 3rd gen so good, bros?
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>>154408773
I guess Nibelsnarf would be called an "abomination". When i think of monster i think of something like him

Even if i hate him.
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>>154408773
>less dangerous blangonga with laserbeam and parts which have as much hp as the entire rajang
>awoo furfag bait which uses a grand total of 4 actions, 3 of which are in a single mode
They are shit
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>>154408931
Nice projecting, you should take your own advice rather than continuing your feeble attempt at damage control.
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>>154408935
>tfw they fucked up D. Island in Gen
>tfw moga village doesn't even exist
>tfw shitty ching chong yukumo represents the the 3rd gen village
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>>154409113
>itchynose.jpg
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>>154409113
Good riddance, moga is garbage just like pokke which did managed to get in because of ichinose and fubabbies instead of objectively better jumbo
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GIVE ME YOUR POWDERS YOU DOUBLENIGGER
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>>154409113
>tfw shitty ching chong yukumo represents the the 3rd gen village
Because MHGen is a tribute to the PORTABLE games, you dumdum.
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>>154409336
oh that explains why gen is garbage.
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Generations is shit

do I fit in yet
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>>154408773
Rajang is awesome but Zinogre is garbo. Tigrex is a much better example given that it actually tries to fight you instead of prancing around like an excited puppy.
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>>154409309
>farming hellblade
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>>154409772
welcome to /mhg/
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>One pixel wide
>Nonstop aggros
>Instantly respawning mobs
>LOL POISON
>KO makes him sway his head like a fucking faggot causing nonstop whiffs
>LUDICROUS Health Pool size for no god damn reason

Is there any monster worse than Iodrome and Ioprey? Jesus fucking christ I hate these faggots.
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>>154409978

Bring back Wroggi, please.
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>>154409978
There's no such thing as a good -drome. Why they keep bringing them back is fucking beyond me.
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>>154409790
Tigrex is an early generation monster that needs to be redesigned much like 80% of the early generation monsters.
>muh spin in place
>muh rath dash made even more cancerous by chaining dash after dash
>muh khezu-tier roar-instead-of-attack
gotta be a true shit eater to like Tigrex over Zinogre.
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>>154410180
B-but I like both of them
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>>154409904
>playing monster hunter
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>>154410180
Talking shit about retards is pretty tasteless, anon.
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>>154407129
Why would they need to expand on what is 4th Gen's Portable 4th+ a Celebratory game?
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>>154410262
Hello gay furry
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>>154410458
>I think two monsters are pretty cool
>LOL WUT R U A GAY FURRY

Fuck off
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>>154409309
65 hunted. 8 caps.

Powders for full armor and 6 weapons with one left over.

Feel free to post card.
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>>154410634
No need to get so defensive over shitposters, anon.
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>>154410426
cause i feel like i wasted 180 hours of my life by playing gen where as I was still playing 4U up until I got gen.

I'd like to migrate my 180 hour save file to a meaningful game with a lot of content so it doesn't feel like I literally paid the same price as 4U for a quarter of the content, replayability and network features.
>>
What's the best weapon to farm silverwind with?
i've been using HBG since every attack he does is a free power boost, but I'm not sure if it's the best for farming the shit out of him, especially farming the shit out of the VI hunt.
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>>154410863
I know, i know... sometimes i just get carried away
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>>154410952
Adept thunder DBs is pretty good. You basically never stop attacking.
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>>154410952
use the weapon that you get the most hits with

aka gunner.

aka always play gunner

aka always play Monster Shooter
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does anyone else feel like Pierce shots in MHG are weaker than usual?

From the testing i've been able to do it seems like pierce 1 does 5x3 damage instead of how jap guides say its 9x3.
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>>154410952
If you're not gunning it, Adept DB.
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>>154410910
>4 monsters less
>a quarter of the content

you some kind of nitwit anon?
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Well not only do Jaggis interrupt my gathering, but they interrupt my photo ops too.

And it came out looking even better.
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>>154410180
>>muh spin in place
The spin now is actually often preceded by a stagger so...it's not always in place.
>muh rath dash made even more cancerous by chaining dash after dash
Rathians do that anyway and Tigrex's dash is actually telegraphed unlike Raths. Tigrex actually pounces a lot more often than it did in past games anyway. Also one addition to its moveset that I greatly appreciate is the turn-into-dash that it does now, instead of simply doing the two part turn that most monsters do.
>muh khezu-tier roar-instead-of-attack
Plenty of monsters require HGE to block roars. Khezu, Tigrex, Brachydios, and Hellblade Glavenus are just a few. Tigrex's roar actually deals damage is all.

That said Tigrex is pretty consistently aggressive and relies on brute force as opposed to gimmicks like Zinogre who alternates between doing literally nothing and only actually trying to fight back maybe 10% of the time until you beat the fear back into him like the bitch he is.
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>>154410396
I hate that I know exactly what this jumble of pixels is.
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>>154410180
>khezu-tier roar
>can be evaded with evasion-10

come on now.
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>>154411902
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>>154411821


This. Tiggy is actually one of the better designed pre-3rd gen monster. Its always a pleasure fighting him. He will only get better when/if they update his movesets
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>>154392546
Three slots.
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Is the Lodetstar/Marth DLC out in Japan yet?
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>>154409978
>attacking head
>when torso is the weak zone

Git gud
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>>154411821
>Often
Like few times out of many since it's the same thing he uses for other moves and by the time you figure it's his spin you're fucked
>Rath dash is fine
It's the speed and amount he runs around like an angry autistic that's the problem since depending on your area of the map, you can safely dodge him, but he does an immediate run 180 and runs you over. Raths can't do that.
>Roar spam
Do HGE block the roar that causes damage too? That's has to be one of the biggest bullshit attacks as a blade master.
Tigerex is shit. Just because he's less shitter than the huge pile of shit every other gen 1 and 2 monster are, doesn't make him less shitty.

Maybe if they gave the hunter priority for attacks and dodges like for later gen monsters so you can pull of crazy stunts and combos, it would be nice. But they didn't so he just becomes extremely tedious and annoying. The fact you can't vault off him a vast majority of the time when he charges seems counter intuitive as a means to dodge.
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>>154409790
To be fair Apex Zinogre is an aggressive death train. For the prime Zinogre experience, play 4U
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>>154410127
To expose the lies FUckers were spewing in Gen 3 that FU was better than Tri.
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>>154411312
If ony. Pierce and Normal need to be rebalanced to be more or less equivalent instead of pierce being flat out better.
Though I'd rather Normal be brought up to 24 MV instead of Pierce being nerfed. Gotta stay the deeps king as per series tradition after all.
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>>154413447
>Like few times out of many since it's the same thing he uses for other moves and by the time you figure it's his spin you're fucked
The tells for Tigrex's spin are entirely unique to that move, you need to pay attention.
>but he does an immediate run 180 and runs you over. Raths can't do that.
No he doesn't. Tigrex charges at an angle from the original trajectory, he cannot 180.
>Do HGE block the roar that causes damage too? That's has to be one of the biggest bullshit attacks as a blade master.
I'm not sure honestly, but Tigrex's roar has insanely short range despite its power, and for you to be damaged by his roar you have to pretty much be right on top of him.

Honestly the problem seems to lie with you. You seem to be in his face at all times instead of giving him space so that you can see what he's doing. Tigrex is fairly large and it only makes sense to be some distance away from him so you can react properly. Tigrex is one of the fairest monsters in the game.
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>>154411534
>no expeditions
>no G Rank
>no GQs
>few large fights, only Narkarkos.
>you can count Amatsu/Alatreon if you feel like it
>nothing like Gog/Dalamadur

Yeah not to mention most GQ farmers spent more time on that then the rest of the game combined. Keep making excuses like "only 4 monsters fewer" though.

4U was just that good, and Gen is a step back. That's all there is to it.
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>>154411821
>Tigrex's dash is actually telegraphed unlike Raths.
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>>154413931
>expecting capcom to buff something instead of nerfing something to make the former seem stronger

lmao

As of now, normal is pretty much only good on kirin, garuga, and maybe mitzutsune
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>>154414060
It's hopeless, it's the same kind of shitter that thinks "don't stand in front of the monster and you won't get instacharged" is unforgivingly bad design and an insurmountable problem that cannot be tackled in any way without sacrificing DPS.
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>>154411076
>>154411343
I'm getting pretty bored of gunning, so what's the best thunder DB?
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>>154414060
Also I'll add that few feet from Tigrex's back leg won't damage you. You'll cover your ears but the roar has soft zones. You're right for exposing the novice though. Disinfo is way too common nowadays.
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>>154400897
which of these skills should I prioritize on bow considering I dont have a god charm
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>>154414404
Kirin bolt I think.
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>>154414487
I mean while it does have high thunder and white, it's also got 30-60 less raw than the others. you sure?
moslty i really don't want to farm kirin, fuck kirin
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>>154414060
>>154414379
>Bad game design is the fault of the player
Typical excuses. You should show me how his stagger is different, unless you mean when he's preparing to windup, in which case, you're fucked if you're right on top of him. Stop taking things literally, the trajectory is enough that he can came back and hit you after you're recovering from your dive dodging his previous charge. No, his roar has a very large range, where you can sheave and roll, and still get caught by it.
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>>154409978
Ioprey is good for charging up on.
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>>154414715
I've farmed like thirty Silverwinds with the Astalos DBs, they'll do fine. So will any of the others, I'm sure.
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>>154414257
Pay attention. Tigrex always does a quick shout before charging.

>>154414427
Not only that, Tigrex also tends to leap AWAY from you before roaring as it enters rage unlike many monsters. You have to be running INTO him to get hit by his roar and its insanely obvious when he's going to do it. People shit on Gen 1 and 2 monsters for not having tells for their attacks but Tigrex actually DOES have very clear signs (both visual and audio) when it's beginning an attack.

Tigrex is one of my favorite monsters and this was earned by it kicking the shit out of me numerous times in FU before I got gud.
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>>154414715
If you're going element it's to go all the way. DB rate of attack makes it great for element. Especially with Wolfs Maw. The extra long white is there for a reason! Saves you from needing razor sharp.
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About to play through 3U for the first time. Are there any weapons that aren't viable for soloing? Thinking of going switch axe.
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>>154414715
Not only is the enormous white alleviating the raw gulf with other DBs, it's the 2 slots and the way element skills stack in this game, the multiplicative gains of Element Attack Up and Thunder Attack +2 means that 36 Thunder ends up being a pretty big deal.
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>>154414862
Correct.
But you really have to be on the edge when standing in front of him, ready to GP at any second.
But then again, he can always just fucking jump, which doesn't have a tiny wind-up like the charge.
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>>154414964
SA is good. I hear Gunlance is really viable in 3U as well. But honestly, I don't think there's anything that's not viable at all. You should be able to go nuts.
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>>154414964
SnS and Bow have MASSIVE problems fighting underwater, and gunlance is as usual pretty weaksauce, but for the most part everything is pretty viable otherwise.
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>>154414862

His colours also change. The red on his body starts glowing red too when he is about to leap back and roar.

Fuckign casuals

I am a Tribabby so 4U was my first time fighting Tigrex and he is a great monster
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>>154414968
>the way element skills stack in this game
wait, they do?
shit, I'm gonna need to start looking at (element) up charms more, and make an All ele up set or something.
or just use toka, i guess
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>>154414785
>blame the monster not me

You're not fooling anyone. You know the attacks. You're not ace enough to play around it without complaining.

When the fuck did everyone start complaining about every fucking feature in monster hunter? Gen is the easiest monster hunter to date.

>aerial anything trivializes Tigrex
>adept " " "
>shield weapons trivialize Tigrex
>conservative gunning trivializes Tigrex
>crowd control trivializes Tigrex
>it's not Black Tigrex, so he just charges all day, so stop whining

The most problematic mechanic with Tigrex is wall sliding. And he's one of the few mons that get a significant damage boost from enrage.

Stop whining.
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>>154413412
That is fucking stupid and so are you. This monster is trash and so fucking unsatisfying to fight. I don't even feel good or accomplished when it dies.
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>dreadqueen male, white pigment, native spear
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>>154411534
>muh Monster Hunter Wiki numbergame
don't play that card.

there are like 11 more small monsters in Gen than 4U. More than that, the missing sub-species remove variety and so the actual missing monsters.

If you want to be technical about it and only count large monsters, there are 75 in 4U and 71 in gen.
Breaking it down even more, Gen only has 13 variants while 4U has 30. Of Gen's variants only 2 are substantially different to fight while commanding different elements or ailments or a more wild moveset compared to their original, while 20 of the variants in 4U are different enough to add a new flavor to an old monster.

if we group monsters together by how similar they are to play, or how many animations/attacks they share, and disregard sub-species; there are 32 types of monsters in 4U and 35 in Gen. You only gain 3 more "types" of monsters in the whole scheme for Gen, while still losing "types" from 4U. No Nerscylla Type, No G.Jaggi Type, No Mono/Diablos type, No Basarios/Gravios type, No Mohran type, No Dalamadur type, No Fatalis type, and No Gogmozios type.
What you get instead are Malfestio type, of which there is only 1 monster and it's a weak monster, Maccao type, of which there is also only 1 monster and it's a weak monster (rough equivalent of 2 G.Jaggis already), Glavenus type, Mizutsune type, Gammoth type, Uragaan type, Lagi/Ludroth/Agnak type, then Nibelsnarf, Alatreon, Amatsu and Nakarkos for 11 types of monsters in gen that aren't present in 4U, 9 if you discount Maccao and Malfestio as anything but early-game hunts, for a total of 8 removed types of monsters from Gen compared to 4U, replaced with 9 other ones.

This all ignores how G-rank modifies every monster's moveset and how G-rank quests add on way more playtime by offering new gear to craft from G-rank monsters over just LR & HR.

There are as many unique monsters as 4U, but literally 10 times less diversity for lack of subs and no G-rank to boot.

Also the online sucks.
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>>154415030
I think the jump is the only thing of his that isn't telegraphed.
>Not always ready to get the fuck out at any second

>>154415258
I miss Tigrex's original theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4YxP-SheU4

>>154415418
>Using anything but Guild or Adept Charge Blade
Shiggy
I hate Aerial because of that stupid fucking somersault in lieu of a proper roll.
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>>154415253
Thanks anons.
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>>154415418
Brute tigrex is even easier because of the lack of charging, just sits there and yells all day. The only brute tigrex I never sub 5'd was 140 gq.
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>>154414862
>Pay attention. Tigrex always does a quick shout before charging.
You mean AS he's charging.
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>>154415756
He actually transitions into the charge. I couldn't think of a proper way to describe an animation but as much as I defend Yian Garuga, there is no transition for its charge in the same way that Tigrex has. Plus it may be placebo but I feel as though Tigrex builds up speed gradually rather than going from 0-100 in the blink of an eye.
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>>154415418
>Aerial trivializes Tigrex
You gemming in Evasion +2?
Trying to vault over his almost always ends with you getting hit
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>>154415659
I learned to like aerial with switch axe.

And no, no one would use any other charge blade style. Also no one springs for guard +2 anymore, and Tiggy is the only monster I'd equip it for.
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MASTERFURRYX uses Guard+2 with Adept CB, what a shitter
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>>154415643
Gens has like 10 more unique monsters than 4U not counting subs, Deviants are way better than subs, better monsters in general, and G rank usually adds like one new move to a monster, if that.
>Also the online sucks.
how
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>>154415736
Well right, but I've seen the delayed double roar 1 shot more than any other Tigrex.

Overall point was that with experience, any monster is exploitable. My gripe was with complaining about a monster when you can hunt it 5 times more and learn everything about it.


>>154415962
Nah not over it. Aerial puts you in good position to get out of the way during his shoulder peek, or as he's about to charge.

Don't aerial attack and play chicken with Tigrex. At that point you deserve the L
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>>154416308
>Frontierviants are way better than subs, better monsters in general
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>>154415939
He makes that sound as the animation is starting, and while that animation is slower than the rest of the charge, it still does 100% damage if you get hit.
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>>154416443
Yeah that was me, I should have been clearer about the description.
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>>154415561
>female doesn't have many/any good looking minimal sets

>somewhat like rathiangunner S for gunner asthetic
>S has Health
>EX has Botany
WHY.
Male sets vary between gundam/WoW hunter, anime overdesigned bullshit, and gundam hunter.
Female sets get slut or overdesigned princess, or overdesigned slutty princess.
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>>154416401
sick buzzword bro
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>>154416582
>and gundam hunter.
meant to add or gundam hunter, and the rare but fantastic minimalist warrior sets.
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>>154406432
>Get 4 silverwind prime scraps
>Still can't make the silverwind star s
Is it unlocked after beating lv.6 or is there more to getting variant s cat items?
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>>154416582
But I like Gundam Hunter. However
>Brachy armor looks cool in concept art
>Has WoW shoulders in-game
It's not fair.
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>>154416157
Look mom, I posted it again!
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Wrath of Rath is such a fucking joke of quest.

>Smoke Bombs last 30 seconds, gate lasts 30 seconds and takes twice as long to come up
>Once they both see you it's impossible to use Smoke Bombs again, even if you Farcaster back to camp, once you reenter the arena they will both automatically see you regardless if you Smoke Bomb while one is facing away

This game was okay until this, what a fucking joke of game design, I'd expect this kind of poor design from AAA western devs, not Capcom.
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>>154415541
He's a small monster who gets lucky with backhop and sidehop dodges. He can literally seem like Bruce Lee but he's meant to be fought aggressively and quickly. You can trade all day with him and win easily even while poisoned.

At least now you know to go for the torso. You could've just said "thank you."
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>>154416793
Lvl 9+ for any cat deviant s of that monster

>>154416906
Use flash bombs and traps to guarantee gate success. Also if you put one to sleep and smoke bomb, it'll wake up without aggro.
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>>154416706

I miss the days when I was young and ignorant on PS2 MH. I thought the game was just really hard but would only ever really upgrade my weapon, so I never ground out good armor and played through most of the have jumping between the basic, buyable sets that were surprisingly /fa/
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>>154416906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf9qcYZm1JE
git gud
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>>154416861
Yeah, I'm not saying gundam hunter is bad, it's actually alright.
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>>154416906
>This game was okay until this
That's the toughest quest in the entire game. If you do manage to beat it, you have nothing to fear after that.
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Am I missing something or can I not access hunters for hire in a room?
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>>154416308
No it doesn't have "10 more unique monsters" than 4U. I just counted everything up buddy.

Deviants are fucking shit-tier poor excuses for sub-species. Sub-species command different elements and ailments which gives new flavor to an old monster. Every deviant except Hellblade and Silverwind are literally just the same base monster with the same base weaknesses and elements/ailments except 50% larger and 1 new attack animation. There is significantly more difference between a Volvidon and a Lagombi than there is between a Lagombi and a Snowbaron, for example. Another example is Steel Uragaan could do different blights compared to Uragaan, while Crystalbeard Uragaan does the same fire/sleep blight as regular Uragaan and it's only difference compared to regular Uragaan is that it likes to roll around a lot more. You lose diversity of fights with Deviants compared to sub-species for 9 of the 11 deviants that are even there.

And the online in Gen just sucks. It has way more glitches or lack of features than 4U which is fucking mind numbing when considering both games utilize a 4-village + online hub setup.
You can't visit villages in gen while connected to multiplayer - even though you could in 4U - so you can't Meld Talismans, Hire Palicos, Talk to NPC's to advance a quest line, mine Dark bone shit from pokke village, or collect the plethora of tickets the NPC's toss at you - unless you disconnect from multiplayer first and lose your lobby.

There's also fuckin' bizarre lag shit mid-hunt that never existed in 4U, like the monster pausing for seconds at a time frozen in a single frame of animation, as well as MH3's weird laggy business of teleporting monsters.

Oh and you know what? Charge Blade and Insect Glaive only have 4 deviant weapons, as if the lack of subs and poorly replaced handful of deviants wasn't bad enough.

Gen is through-and-through a rushed, incomplete and buggy game.
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>Fighting dread king
>Faggot has all the basic cancer moves
>but stays in the air all fucking day
>can easily get slayed on the wrong map due to flame burst
>doing this with a non status SnS
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>>154417337
>>154416906
>Tfw I'm not at all daunted by the idea of fighitng monsters simultaneously because I enjoyed the adrendaline rush of doing so in FU, and even now to some extent
>But I have a harder time doing it because the control stick is above the D-Pad instead of below so I can't claw as effectively as I would on a PSP.
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>>154417182
>Lvl 9+ for any cat deviant s of that monster
>Only lv 5 so have to endure 4 more rounds of sonic boom spam
Thanks Capcom.
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>>154417608
Fighting two raths is not the same as fighting two monsters. Especially when those are metal raths.
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>>154417735
I've done just that though, just on a PSP. Though to be fair Raths in FU are fucking awful joke monsters dear god I'm glad they were changed.
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>>154417182
Silver Rathalos just seems immune to Flash Bombs, I have them explode right in his fucking stupid fucking poorly designed cancerous piece of fucking dogshit face and nothing.

I'm just going to put Generations down, there's nothing else to do anyway besides the last few Village quests and grind Deviants. Fuck this game, fuck the asshole who designed these fuckers I hope he fucking dies.
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>>154417848
thats what happens when people idolize fu
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Hey one of you monster fuckers -

Why isn't there an image of a lewd Lagiacrus with the nipples censored by Lagniapple icons yet?
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>>154417337
It's not even fun though, Raths are the fucking worst part of any Monster Hunter game and this quest is just that exacerbated 10 fold. I don't feel the need to dedicate time into beating this shit quest, it's awful. I'd love to see that faggot who made it actually attempt to beat it without end game armor like I am attempting, I bet the fucking nip retard wouldn't last 10 minutes.

I did a quest with 5 Hyper monsters with a friend, THAT was fun. This is literally just artificial difficulty, hard quest for the fucking sake of being hard and nothing more, the reward you get for it isn't even worth the frustration of beating it.
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>>154417573
I like it so fuck you
Fuck your mother
Fuck your dad
Fuck his mother
Fuck her father
And fuck whoever put a worthless cum stain on this blue earth
Suck my dick bitch nigga faggot and catch hyper aids
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>tfw Jho's theme still evokes feelings of fear in me
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>>154418027
Probably because reptiles generally don't have breasts.

>>154417952
Nigga Raths in their current state are Tri monsters.
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what did they mean by this?
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>>154417656
You can just join a lvl 9 room via search and kill it once
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>>154418106
I don't fucking care that you like to eat shit you retarded faggot. Kill yourself.
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Hosting Japanese DLC for anybody who needs it, also wanted to try out some of the really hard DLC.

56-4402-4817-1102
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>Need 3 freezer sacks
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I swear to god this is specifically programmed.
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hey its me again, we had alot of fun yesterday playing remember? HR4 Normies room
09-8183-7817-3153
cum and play
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>>154418316
How about you kill your dog mother for putting you in this world bitch nigga
I hope you have three kids and only one son who gets molested and raped so you have to raise a faggot
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>>154418302
Wait seriously? I was hoping on doing it with friends but if I only need to fight that shithead once instead of 4+ times then that's fine by me.
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Time to settle this once and for all
http://www.strawpoll.me/11198627
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>>154418106
>>154418316
>>154418632
How uncouth.
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>>154418198
Raths are still shitty Gen 1 trash and the games would only benefit from their absence.
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>>154417573
>Sub-species command different elements and ailments which gives new flavor to an old monster.
Who gives a shit about what elements a monster does? People want new movesets not whether or not they need to bring a fucking antidote.
>There is significantly more difference between a Volvidon and a Lagombi than there is between a Lagombi and a Snowbaron, for example.
Did you mean to switch these around or something? 'cause fucking obviously there'd be more difference between two monsters than a monster and it's deviant.
>it's only difference compared to regular Uragaan is that it likes to roll around a lot more.
double tail swipe into rock detonation
roll into chin slam
that one new rock that you mine
bigger chin slam
big super roll
changed hitzones
I don't like crystalbeard at all but he does have more differences than "more rolling", and that's way fucking better than Steel.

And your excuse for why Gen's online sucks is a bunch of errands that at a certain point (that many have already reached weeks ago) you don't have to do anymore? Cmon nigga.
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>>154418791
>including any other choices when rhenoplos/bullfango are on the list
You might be able to argue Apceros because they're adept at fucking blocking your view, but at least those assholes are big enough to be taken out by large monsters regularly.
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>>154418632
>tfw you will never be this autistic
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>>154418895
Raths can and should stay. Make them better, don't axe them entirely. The only monsters that legitimately need axing are dromes other than MAYBE Cephadrome.
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>>154418791
you retards aren't voting for 3 choices, also cephalos should be higher
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>>154418198
I'll take 'Things That Have Never Stopped Degenerate Furry Artists' for 500, Trebek
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>>154419052
One thing that would make Raths infinitely better is no more point blank charging when you're standing underneath them. Charges are meant to close distance. There's no distance to close when you're luterally humping the wyvern's leg with your weapon.
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>>154418981
I won't be after I rape your daughter
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>>154419184
>have a bite attack for hunters in your face
>never use it because walking into them just works better
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>>154418027
goddamnit
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>>154417537
You've never been able to do that.
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These fucking arena quests

Ugh that was much more horrible than I thought it would be

After that cart to the asta I thought to give up and try again with aerial but then said fuck it and pushed on horribly

At least now my v6 is almost done. Some hidden quest I haven't unlocked left. And i got some feather.
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>>154419281
He always comes in at the worst times
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ummm could u guys fking join and stop posting, we are here to play with like-minded autists???
09-8183-7817-31553 HR 4 GRIND
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>>154418064
>the reward you get for it isn't even worth the frustration of beating it.
I can agree with you at least on that. Kakuju Feather should have given Attack +15 and Takami feather Spirit +10. It's garbage that only one of the feathers is good.
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>>154417608
>clawing

Cringe.
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>>154419345
I could've sworn I could in 4u.
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>>154419268
All first/second gen monsters still do it, and it utterly infuriates me because it makes absolutely no sense. They've all got attacks they can use to catch a hunter standing in front of/underneath them, yet they just charge instead because reasons?
The difference between fighting first/second gen and third/fourth gen monsters is staggering in terms of movesets.
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>>154419392
You can't defend this quest, you get caught by wind pressure one time by Rathalos if both are aggrod and you are basically carted. This quest should have been in the tower where you fight the Fated Four the first time.
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>>154418924
Volvidon and Lagombi are essentially sub-species of Arzuros. I didn't mix anything up there.
Snowbaron and Lagombi are just ice rabbits that slide around. It is not significantly more interesting to play one over the other.

And if you want to complain about new movesets, consider that Gen removed just as many movesets to fit in the "new ones", with most of them going unused in the later game. Nakarkos is just a 3* and 7* fight. Malfestio and Maccao are early monsters that provide almost no challenge aside from Malfestios confusion gimmick, Gammoth is a walking barn that you have to actively try to whiff attacks against, Mizutsune's only real end-game challenge is Hyper. If you want to talk about "new movesets" then don't even talk about Deviants unless you're talking about Hellbade and Silverwind, cause they're the only deviants that actually have substantially moves with different effects rather than fighting a useless Uragaan that rolls more, chin slams more, and launches troll-mine points that explode in your face. Even silverwind pales in comparison to Lucent.

Also Gen's online just sucks. It's not just the errands or lack of the ability to do them as I already explained in another post. It's weird lag stuff. It's the self-evidence of how they could have easily just copy-pasted how it worked in 4U but decided not to with literally no benefit for having made that decision.
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>>154418791
>Remobra in twice
>no Vespoid
>conflating monsters with different characteristics
Shit list.
Remobra are still the worst and if they had 3 entries I would select all 3.
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>>154419281
While hilarious I'm also legitimately impressed.
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>>154418847
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>>154419353
wrath of rath and this are the worst quests ever and whoever made them needs to be executed on the spot
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>>154419281
lewd/nsfw http://i.imgur.com/eBQQCbP.png
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>>154419924
I skipped monsters that usually avoid you

I might've forgotten vespoid because they can't hit cats
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>>154419820
The Tower didn't exist in Monster Hunter Freedom, silly.
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>>154420114
REEEEEEEE
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guys im really lonely please join
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>>154420376
Just use iqdb you mongoloid.
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>fighting malfestio
>get confused
>start demon riot
>fucking cat launches me to stop the confusion and interrupts demon riot before it goes off
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Anyone wanna knock out some unpleasant villager requests? I've got low rank fossil delivery and shit, check mark for a checkmark?

66-7395-7974-8894
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>>154415643
>literally said gen has 4 monster less
>get a fucking novel on how 4u has more

jesus
fucking
christ
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>>154417608
Hori claw pad master race
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>>154420626
Give the guy a break, it's all he has.
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>>154418436
Is the Lodestar armor quest out yet?
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>>154420626
>literally said 4 less monsters isn't equivalent to "a quarter of the content"
>get post calling you out, explaining "a quarter of the content"
>reply for no reason to act like a smart-ass
baka desu senpai
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>>154418436

You still hosting?
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>>154418064
I had more trouble with Wrath of Rath than Out of the frying pan. They are both just such shitty monsters.
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>>154420953
My internet actually fucked up just a little while ago. I'm gonna make another post in a short while.
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>>154419872
Not the guy you were talking to, but Grimclaw is the only deviant that has a actual noticable changes.

Silverwind is just regular narga with a projectile and increased thunder weakness.
Hellblade is just glavenus with a the double spin and blast blight.

Grimclaw does something other than
>straight charge
>charge at an angle from previous charge
>pounce
>spin
>bite

Grimclaw's new moves include:
Tremor walk
claw aoe
(tremor walk into claw aoe)
(tremor walk into rock launch)
big rock launch
dash into 180 rock launch

And he borrows some moves from subspecies like
brute's upward stance walk into scream
Molten's chain screaming

But the main thing that makes him the best deviant is that they didn't just shit-ify his hitzones and leave the same weakpoints as the noral version.
they CHANGED THEM AROUND, made zones that were resistant weak and vice-versa (mainly the front arms)
It's fucking amazing, it gives me a reason to approach grimclaw in a different way than normal tigrex

oh, and as someone with shit internet, I can confirm the lag thing also happened in 4u.
I think they changed the way the host stuff works in gen, instead of 4u's "first person to enter the monster room has the connection"

everything else you pretty much said is valid
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Sorry about setting the trap down early in Grimclaw 8
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>>154421786
It's okay, we all make mistakes.
What was your name again?
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>>154421829
Cantaporme
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>>154421829
Charlotte
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>>154421829

LancedJack
>>
>6 Azure Dragongems
>0 Skypiercers
>Broken head every time

I want to get off this ride
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>>154421829
Spartacus
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>>154422283
Do it then, Generations isn't worth anyone's time.
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>>154421658
>aoes

More proof that Gen is literally Frontier 2.0. You also forget to mention Grimclaw is the slowest moving Tigrrex ever, even slower than Brute.
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>>154422459
buzz
words
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>>154422459
Grimclaw is fun because it's actually different from a normal Tigrex and just "super" tigrex.
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Is it possible to be too in love with Chameleos?
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>>154422708
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>>154422648
FASTER THAN A SPEEDING SNAIL

LESS POWERFUL THAN A HYPER TIGREX

CAN LEAP OVER YOUR HEAD AND DO NO DAMAGE IN A SINGLE BOUND

SURE IS A SUPER TIGREX ANON
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>>154421658
Wait so the Grimclaw weakpoints are different than regular Tigrex?
How so?
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>>154422708
>>154422834
Why
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>>154423079
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>>154422881
He's talking out his ass, the only difference between the two is the claws making your weapons bounce and being a lower damage hitzone. Everything else is the exact same, and if you're hitting the claws you're fighting both all wrong.
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Is the only non-shit Gen 1 monster Diablos?
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>>154423273
I think Grimclaw's back takes less damage as well.
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>>154423273
How are you supposed to get claws if you don't break them.
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Post some of your favourite battle themes.
Hard mode: regular battle themes onry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x06pYXad1k0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSuaydrijmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22MCAb2WVLc
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Japanese DLC again, promise my internet won't fuck up this time.

60-1468-0495-2997
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Is Dreadking anything worth it that's not the armor.
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>>154421658
SIlverwind is regular narga with half of it's attacks using some huge projectile airslash that can cause bleeding, practically a shitfest to fight against if not using Adept.

Hellblade's dual tail swipes fuck over even lance guarding without a stamina boost or guard+, and don't discount blast blight cause it really is a rough thing to be afflicted with, especially if you're lance/GL/DB. Being afflicted with blast blight is the difference between surviving or carting against a heavy tail attack or fireball to the face and it takes extra measures to actively roll to get that shit off without the biology skill, which offers different tactics mid-hunt while you have to possibly sheath your weapon or otherwise spend some time keeping your eye on the monster while trying to shake it off. Same applies to bleeding, except there you're crouching and staying in place to get rid of it while juggling opportunities of when to evade if Silverwind decides to send an air-slash downrange.

Grimclaw really is just Tigrex or, like you say, Tigrex + some Brute + some Molten. I'd like to nag on tremor here but there are fewer monsters in Gen that use tremor compared to 4U so it's not like 4U where tremor res in a set was almost guaranteed. Redhelm also does Tremor though and I wouldn't consider redhelm a significantly upgraded/alternative version of Arzuros. Past tremor, Grimclaw has larger rock shots that still just do physical damage with no extra ailment unless in a snow area, (probably the only cool feature of tigrex is his environment dependent attacks imho), with it's biggest new attack being the AOE pound, which really gives it as much difference as Dreadking has compared to Rath who also has a new AOE attack. Other than that, I'd much rather fight Brute Tigrex or Molten Tigrex over Grimclaw, as both of them alone are guaranteed to have a much different fight than the base Tigrex.

Even with your analysis, there's only 1 deviant that resembles sub-species diff.
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>>154420114
>not just a picture of jho
lame
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>>154423383
Yeah but...

>hitting the back

That's doing it wrong as well on both.
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>>154423623
The Light Bowgun if you don't have Hyper Metal Rath DLC
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>>154423623

If you don't like the people you're hunting with in a turns room, you can make them do Dreadking when it's your turn.
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Anyone on HR4 that wants to do the key quests with me?

All I want is a friend
>>
Can someone explain Deviants to me, not what they actually are, but the Permit system? Why do I need to buy more than one Permit?
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>>154423807
I didn't say you were supposed to hit the back, just that it's a difference in weakness.
Regular tigrex actually took a fair bit of damage from it, though. could help for aerial users.
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>>154423694
>I'd like to nag on tremor here but there are fewer monsters in Gen that use tremor compared to 4U so it's not like 4U where tremor res in a set was almost guaranteed.
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>>154423894
Theee are 10 Hunta for each Deviant, all of these costing tickets to do. As you do the higher hunts, you'll have to spend more tickets to do the hunts.
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>>154423694
actually i take that back i'd rather fighter Grimclaw over Brute. Brute is a fucking screaming nigger who never stops screaming.

Molten is a better fight than Grimclaw though.
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>>154423570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=444zdjoEBNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASNrGSuS7uU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypNJgf7AmE4

And I'm going to need to step down from hard mode to post the best of the best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0TSFIOH2s
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>>154423894
Someone in the MHGen dev team has a ticket fetish.
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>>154422881
grimclaws front legs are also weakspots, giving you more opportunities to do more damage, which changes the fight from "wait until he turns towards you, hit the head, move out of the way, repeat"

>>154423273
Check the hitzones before shitposting my man

>>154423694
So silverwind is just regular narga with a projectile AND it can cause bleed, nice
you can naturally iframe through the wind blades.

if you know how the tail spin works (meaning you actually have to practice against the monster!) you can position yourself to not get hit by it.
hell, you can just backhop once and avoid it because it's a very fast attack.

silverwind and hellblade are just the exact same fights as their non-deviant versions except that they can inflict different statuses on you, both of which have items to cure it fast.

Tremor distance was nerf'd in generations, so as long as you're not like right on him when he's moving you won't get hit by it. (try getting tremor'd by shageru/gore's slam now for example)
Molten was just slower brute tigrex with shit hitzones and blast blight
Brute was just "spam screams until I die" the experience.

I'd rather fight grimclaw.
>>
Me and a friend are going to get the star fox palico gear, anyone want to join?


00-9363-8581-0916

5555

Event: Star Fox: Battle at Arctic Ridge
Target: Hyper Blangonga

2 slots left!
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>>154424341
I'm sure everyone's item box is filled with palico tickets, trade tickets, bistro tickets, village tickets etc.

The ones you get from quests(thing like commendations) are fine, but most of the random ones are gonna sit around and not get used.
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>>154424632
This has to be the game with the most tickets and it is also the game where they removed tickets being automatically moved to the box
I swear someone in japan ejaculates every time I put a ticket into the box.
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>>154424451
The best deviant is Stonefist anyway.
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>>154424527
>they exist and are AMONG us
>>
>have trapper palico
>50% of the time it lays traps at some completely inaccessible part of the map or directly at the entrance to another area
>other half the time it sets a trap as the monster is leaving the area

th-thanks...
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>>154424794
I fucking love the crabs, stonefifst included, but I can tell you stonefist is a shit fight unless you're a gunner, which makes it a snoozefest.

He's too big to reliably hit his one weakpoint (the face) for any blade weapon, so you'd be licking his ankles while getting claw punched in the asshole until he falls over, then hit his face for a bit, then massage his ankles some more.

Gunners can just headlock him to death in less than 5 minutes.

>>154423570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj1Esms4cDo
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>>154424794
>literally gang-up on it and hit it until it dies: The Monster
>best deviant
yes. the problem with regular hermitaur was that he was too small and you might accidentally whiff. We fixed that problem by making Stonefist bigger.
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>>154424998
>fight with some random and their cat
>goes well
>monster has been killed
>cat was in the middle of planting a trap RIGHT ON TOP OF IT
>wasted
Hahaha, fucking cat
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>>154424998
>trapper cat sets trap as monster is down for easy capture
>trampolines on Raths
>flash bombs at good times

I love my cats
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>>154424451
You sure about Grim's front legs being weakpoints? figured i'd check Kiranico to see if they're different, but the damage areas are the same for the most part.

Of course, this site could just be wrong, where did you find the info?
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>>154425104
>that entire description of a stonefist fight
So basically, what you're telling me, is he's a shorter shen gaoren?
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>>154425239
>You sure about Grim's front legs being weakpoints?
They are if he is enraged. I don't know if kiranico has enraged and non enraged data.
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>>154425239
Note that grimclaw is mad 99% of the fight unless you're not hitting him

>>154425263
Yes
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>>154423572
2 slots open for jap dlc
60-1468-0495-2997
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>>154425362
Where do I get those stats?
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>>154425362
>>154425357
Ah, you guys are right, i should've checked the enraged data. The forelegs are almost on par to head damage.
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>>154424451
>try getting tremor'd by shageru/gore's slam now for example
>try getting hit by rajangs triple blanka ball now for example
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>>154424527
I removed the PW

00-9363-8581-0916

Event: Star Fox: Battle at Arctic Ridge
Target: Hyper Blangonga

2 slots left!
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>>154425606
Pings dex, look in the op or google it
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>>154389664
God's Island only needs +2 and the silencer to hit Minimum Recoil.
The Musket needs +3 with the silencer.
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>>154425663
Thanks
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>>154424335
Heaven's Mount is legit one of the best regular battle themes in the entire series.
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>>154425640
>triple blanka ball
>Generations; a high rank game
i'm laughing so hard, high rank rajang doesn't even aim the blanka ball at you, it's impossible to get hit by it unless you're shit at the game.

>>154425653
Read the OP, use the password we all use or go back to gamefaqs
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>>154423570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AXDb0a9kxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuJv8-YrtSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fisgsFOQWfA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBzqf0INg7E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAiqyMYAhEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6roX3zSIVU
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So, was that girl last thread really Charlotte? "He" could be pretending to be male to blend in, like any non-retard girl.
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>>154425809
>hit by it unless you're shit at the game
Guess that means I'm shit at the game that one time.
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>>154425809
>he gets the point
>still believes the slam tremors

keep laughing friend.
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>>154425924
Cringe
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>>154426000
Correct

>>154426042
It tremored in 4U, did they remove it in gen?
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>>154426262
I want to bully Gore by throwing seeds at him!
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>>154426359
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>>154426183
I would maybe even go as far as say only Chaotic tremored. Not as certain about that but I have literally never been tremored by anything other than Chaotic.

Point being that tremor is in G-rank.
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Planning on making a Akantor HH set but aside from having S+1, what other skills do I need? Blunt? WE + Crit Boost? Another damage booster?
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>>154426262
Doesn't it turn into the chaotic form first?

Also
>tfw Gore Magala didn't turn into Shagaru in mid fight in MH4

you had one job, capcom
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>>154424451
all the deviants are just the same exact fights as their non-deviant versions. Silverwind and Hellblade at least have different ailments, which edges them closer to sub-species tier. I wouldn't say Silverwind is more interesting than Lucent by comparing what sub-specie is already there, just that silverwind makes a good "second" sub-species along with Lucent in the more technical internal-capcom sense of how raths have more than one "sub-species" which, for all intents and purposes, are more related to Gen's deviant concept than the sub-species of every other monster actually being different.
Like bouncing metal raths are Stonefist/Redhelm-tier retarded, but Dreadking and Dreadqueen are actually different enough from -Los and -Ian to fit into the sub-species category.

>muh water Hermitaur with bounce claw
>muh normal Uragaan with ADHD
>muh fire Rathalos with AOE and flying
>muh fire Rathian with super poison and flying
>muh ice Lagombi with bigger ice ball
>muh normal Arzuros with tremor
>muh normal Tigrex with tremor and AOE
>muh electric Zinogre with kirin thunder
>muh normal Testsucabra with a bigger rock
>muh regular Garuga with super poison
>muh fire Glavenus with blast blight
>muh normal Nargacuga with bleeding wind slashes

like they're all bad, but Hellblade and Silverwind at least seem more different than "X Deviant: X with the same shit and a new attack" which is what we were already getting from /almost every/ monster before with G-rank quests. Something irks me tremendously about calling Thunderlord Zinogre the defacto strong-guy Zinogre when it's practically just a G-rank Zinogre in a game without Stygian.
Aside from hellblade and the dread raths, every other monster already had a more exciting sub-species or G-rank variant, if not a reason to not have a deviant based off them for already being part of a similar species; like why Snowbaron and Redhelm when Arzuros and Lagombi are pretty similar fights anyway, nevermind Volvidon as well?
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>>154426809
The first part of a Shagaru hunt could have you fight Gore, and then he transforms after a certain amount of time/damage.
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>>154426765
How much would you bounce with green sharpness theoretically.
I know you don't bounce with HH but even with minds eye you loose double the sharpness. So I think Razor Sharp is needed.

Blunt with Green Sharpness is Attack Up (M) so just calculate your effective raw that way if you want to compare skills.
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>>154426809
Chaotic is what happens when box4 fucks up and fails to become box5.
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>>154424998
>not running support boost and counter boost

It's your fault really
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>>154426765
you don't need S+1

razor sharp and readiness will keep you in green just fine
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>>154426165
>agree with the cringeposter
I'm losing it, mhg
>>
I've been wanting to get into HBG but I have a couple questions:

Should I start throwing everything at the trader to multiply? Do I need to bring a ton of combines to every quest, or should the amount of ammo I can carry be enough?
How does the playstyle compare to bow?
What gun should I make just to start learning how to play?
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>>154426950
And to be as over the top and dramatic as possible, it has to molt into the enraged roar animation Shagaru does where it flies up into the sky.
Not gonna lie, that'd be cool as FUCK to see.
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>>154426971
>>154427390
Thanks, I'll try to add razor sharp onto the set and make another set without S+1 to see how it goes. Would maestro be mandatory as well because I've seen people debate if it's worth it or not.
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>>154426934
>he doesn't remember green nargacuga

But yeah, I get what you're saying and I agree with you for the most part.

I was saying that grimclaw is the best deviant because he can be approached differently than his non deviant form (you can attack him and actually do damage in other situations other than when he's turning) and he is the one deviant that has more than one new attack.(Excluding changing properties of existing moves and/or chaining pre-existing moves)

>stonefist with the super spin slam
>dreadqueen's astalos-esque flying slam
>deadeye's double forward hop
>redhelm has lagombi's butt slam

>tetsu has 0 new moves
>hellblade has 0 new moves
>silverwind has 0 new moves
>uraggan has 0 new moves
>lagombi has 0 new moves
>zinogre has 0 new moves
>dreadking has 0 new moves (the aoe rock is just a souped up normal fireball)

>aside from hellblade and the dread raths every other monster already had a more exciting sub-species or G-rank variant
I agree with this too, except for stonefist.
plum daimyo was the exact same shit except that he moved in circles instead of straight lines and was weak to ice instead of fire
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>>154427985
definitely not mandatory. I like it on all my HH sets but I would never argue you have to have it.
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>>154427370
>not running support boost

says fucking who
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>>154404698
>bushy tail
>>
It's funny how much people expect out of their 40 dollars or less.
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>>154427582

>Should I start throwing everything at the trader to multiply?

Yes

>Do I need to bring a ton of combines to every quest, or should the amount of ammo I can carry be enough?

Depends on the quest, what ammo you use, and the number of players. Bring mats if its a multi-monster hunt or something with lots of health, especially if you rapid-fire.

>How does the playstyle compare to bow?

Less mobile

>What gun should I make just to start learning how to play?

Mizutsune's or Kushala's HBG for pierce shots. Haven't looked into normal shots.
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What's some good skills for Aerial Hammer? Can't get Ex Teo yet for obvious reasons..
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>>154428796
I use Airborne, Crit Eye +3, WE and Crit Boost with the Steve hammer. Doesn't need Razor with the auto sharpen and AR and you can just jump into a monster about to roar to vault into a free charged slam or double air slam.
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>>154428572
La Foi for normal
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>>154426934
the coolest part of deviants is how they actually get different designs instead of just being a recolor.

it's probably too much to expect from capcom but going into the future, it would be cooler if all G-rank was just "deviant" tier monsters. Like G-rank Zinogre is just the Thunderlord Zinogre model, but then have Dragonlord Stygian or whatever too to accomodate G-rank Stygian.

Deviants shouldn't be replacements for sub-species since they really aren't anyway, so the next MH with a G-rank should have monsters, sub-species, deviants for G-rank and sub-species deviants for G-rank too.

Basically just get rid of the whole deviant thing and just re-use their models and animations as the G-rank monster.

It would take more work on Capcom's part to make all these new models for monsters that don't already have deviants in Generations obviously, but imo they took enough of a break to take it lazy with Generations. Gotta make premium content to expect premium profits.
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>>154428572
Alright, thanks for the info.
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>>154429002
I also use Steve hammer. What's your set, I can't seem to find it in ASS?
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>>154429329
Having "Deviant rank" instead of just G rank actually sounds pretty fucking cool.

The deviant system felt kind of half-assed, but if it was it's own rank and every monster (or close to every monster) got a deviant version, it could be great. As long as they refined each deviant and made them more unique/fun.

I guess they'd be high rank tier, but have the special abilities of deviants.
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>>154429329
>It would take more work on Capcom's part to make all these new models for monsters that don't already have deviants
If Frontier can do it, why not mainline?
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>>154429903
wait what? it can inflict "farcaster" does it fucking eject button people?
i wish i could eject button people/creatures
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>>154418791
>No droth
Shit list, those fuckers are Bullfango tier for me, or worse even. Still love 'em design and looks wise tho.
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>>154429903
those are cool statuses
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>>154429903
>Farcaster
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>>154429903
>farcaster
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>>154430186
>>154430237
>>154430241
>>154430319
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Do japanese people like whale hunting so much because that's the closest thing to a monster hunt irl?
I mean, look at jhen mohran fight, that basically a whale hunting in the sands
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>>154423162
Why is he so lewd?

You know what image this is by now
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>>154429329
>deviant sub-species
>Dreadking Silver Rath
Fuckin eat a dick
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>>154429329
>sub-species deviants
I do not wish to know the fresh hell capcom would unleash upon us
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Are any of the variant sets worth getting? (Redhelm, Silverwind, Snowbaron) The skills seem shitty.
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>>154430565
>have to break wings to flash it
>bounce off wings
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>>154430417
H-he's fast!
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>>154429543
It's just memesol with Aelucanth/Rhopessa instead of Vaik really.
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>>154430727
Silverwind is great
Dreadking was just made for hammer
The rest are... okay

My honorable mention goes to stonefist
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>>154430565
No. Rath sub-species don't count cause they're not different enough. It'd be more like Silver Rathalos and Dreadking Rathalos both in the same g-rank.

It'd be more useful for monsters with differing sub-species, like Stygian Zinogre or Jade Barroth or Sand Barrioth or Glacial Agnkator. Capcom could even make them recolors of a single Deviant-quality model like sub-species work for the normal monsters already, i don't care.
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>>154430520
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>>154430417
I am a fairly new player, like one week into the game, and to this day the most frustrating monsters I had to fight are this faggot, his variants, and the Yian Kut-Ku.
The last ones I fought were a frenzied Tigrex and a Rathalos.
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>>154430986
Will probably for Astalos next. (Just for aesthetics.) Thanks for answering.
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>>154430865
Thanks man, this'll make the way to getting Akantor and that bearable too.
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>>154430445
If you think about it, MH is pretty african.
>Kill wildlife indiscriminately just because you want to sell their parts or wear the skin
>Kill all capped monsters
More like Monster Poacher amirite. PETA campaign when.
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>>154430727
silverwind is amazing. if you have a nice charm for tenderizer its god tier

as the other guy said dreadking is great for hammer

snowbaron is nice for aerial
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>just fought Dreadking for the first time

Oh I get it, this is one of those "we didn't actually think about making this monster we just through shit at the wall and you may as well just Gun because it's like pulling teeth for Blademasters".

Will Rathalos ever not be the fucking most poorly designed trash monster in this series, even it's other forms are dogshit.
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>>154430727
Dreadqueen is built for status SnS.

>>154431778
>silverwind is amazing. if you have a nice charm for tenderizer its god tier
>mfw I realized I have a tenderizer+5 OOO perfect for silverwind
Shame I hate fighting silverwind but I might as well give it a try. It actually looks good regardless of your gender. Now if only I could get this lucky with pierce and normal shot charms.
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>>154432383
>he doesn't play as a gunner

You're lucky we gunners let you hump the monster's legs and pretend you're doing something while we actually damage it.
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>>154430727
Dreadking is a good set. With a slotted weapon and good slotted charm you can fit two skills on top.

From my point of view, Dreadking is the only good set actually, since it's the only one I actually regularly use and the only one I've bothered upgrading to lv.10 while i've got a silverwind set at lv.6 and a dreadqueen set at lv.7. Like theres probably no universally good deviant set which hurts their lack of customization all the more, but Dreadkings Attack Up (L), HG Earplugs, Windproof HI, and Weakness Exploit is a set that works well with maintaining constant high-damage pressure on like 75% of the monsters. If you added tremor res in there too you'd basically have that pressure on every monster which would make it a great pick-up and hunt-nonstop set.

One of my dreadking sets has Bomb Boost and it's paired with a sleep SnS and eating for Felyne Specialist. Attack Up (L) cancels out some of the poor raw damage you get for a status weapon, and Earplugs + Windproof means you can just keep connecting hits all day. I found it more reliable to trigger sleep with it than Dreadqueen's set built specifically for status since that set still has to play around roars and wind push while keeping the low raw damage of status weapons. 7 more status damage per status-hit doesn't add up when you're losing more than enough hits by actually playing by the monsters rules.

Dreadking also makes a good guild/striker LS set with or without fastcharge.

but you're right, many deviant sets have a pretty autistic choice of skills.
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>>154432383
>I have never fought Fatalis or Lao Shan Lung before
Trust me, every other monster is an amusement park ride in comparison.
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>>154432728
Fatalis isn't flying 99% of the fight. Dreadking is an entire new level of cancer.
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So /mhg/'s HBG players:
What's your used style? do you change it based on the gun?
I use adept for everything, but I'm considering running striker for mountainous roar, except maybe on helblade where the water shots seige might come in handy.
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>>154432880
Fatalis isn't doing ANYTHING 99% of the fight. It's just lumbering around aimlessly like a Down's child and if you so much as brush against his thigh for one nanosecond you get one shotted.
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>>154432728
*aggressively walks to the end zone*
*clips you while bashing my face against the wall*

>>154432896
Adept is great, bring absolute readiness, the other hbg arts are trash.
Striker doesn't bring anything worthwhile to the table, not even increased MVs
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>>154432383
>this rath is blue
>this rath you bounce against
>this rath never stops flying
What swift dickery can Capcom come up with next?

>this rath causes tremor
>this rath puts you to sleep with it's roar
>this rath is dung bomb resistant
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who else dreams about monster hunter? I frequently get dreams about MH which typically go like this:

>doing irl things
>suddenly, a stranger from the guild shows up, he is sweating and panting
>a monster has been sighted in nearby woods and we need your expertise
>magically equip an armour set and a CB, with anime tier sequence.
>battle the monster for hours, trading blows while epic music plays in background

I can't be the only one, right?
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>>154433268
cringe
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Assuming I want to try out new gunning sets that's not the standard Crit Boost set which one would be better?

Set 1:
>Attack Up L
>Challenger +2
>Pierce Up

Set 2:
>Crit Eye +2
>Challenger +2
>Shot Booster
>Pierce Up

???
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Didn't get to say thank you for the hunts earlier, but thanks anons!
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>>154433336

2nd one but remove challenger +2, its shit in Gen

>>154433364

np, Charlotte!
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>>154433336
The 2nd one, but challenger is shit in generations, pick something else

And shot booster is like one of the best damaging skills for hbg.
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>>154433419
>>154433534

Worth it to replace Challenger +2 for Atk Up M then?
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>>154429002
Crit eye +2*
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>>154433726

yes, also you might want to go fo Repeat Offender seeing as Pierce does multiple hits in one shot. You can pretty much keep up 30% affinity with RO

Pierce Up
RO
Crit Boost
Shot Booster is what I run on Pierce
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>>154432590
Most deviant sets have 2 good skills, 1 decent one, and a pointless one. The more commonly used ones, like silverwind, Dreadking, Dreadqueen for status, are all pretty good.
Snowbaron is good for aerial, Grimclaw has it's uses (could be a solid GS set if you get focus in there). I can see people using Hellblade.
I don't think Deadeye or Stonefist are too great, but maybe they're viable?

And well, the rest are too situational for me.
Redhelm has focus and constitution which are nice, but Furor is too situational and the defense up small won't do much. Drilltusk's skills are disappointing to me. Guard/tenderizer are nice for Lance/GL(maybe CB?), if you're good enough to use adrenaline efficiently then maybe it's good.
I don't see the point in Crystalbeard, and don't even talk about Thunderlord's skills.

Still though, most of them look pretty damn nice, and if you're just doing relaxed hunting/running with a group, you don't need optimal skills.
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>>154433067
>absolute readiness
>on adept
you what, m8?
I know just continuing to fire is more DPS, but even with infusion taking up time and powering up shots I'm finding myself /always/ needing combines because randoms suck no matter the hunt, and sometimes even getting dangerously low on combines.
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Finally. FINALLY.

I just completed every quest in hub and village, doing so by doing each quest before moving up in rank. I'm hr7 and ready to uncap.
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>>154433139
>HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR GUYS I HAVE IDEA

GUYS LISTENING DUUUR

WHAT IF

GUYS LISTEN

WHAT IF WE MAKE RATHALOS, ONLY HE IMMUNE TO FLASH BOMBS 99% OF THE TIME SO NO RELIABLE WAY TO GROUND HIM

ALL OF HIS ATTACKS LAUNCH HIM INTO A FLYING STATE

HE CONSTANTLY FLIES BACKWARDS DOING ALL HIS FLYING ATTACKS

DID I MENTION NO FLASH BOMBS

GUYS SUCH GUD IDEA WE PROFESSIONLER GAEM DESIGNERS DUUUR HUUUUR

This is how I assume the meeting for Dreadking went. This is some amateur game monster design and they should be fucking ashamed of themselves.
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>>154433959
Tell us at what HR you unlock later.
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>>154433981
Mad cuz bad
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>>154433268
You are literally the only one.

The most my dreams have ever shown me regarding games are just still literally video games that i'm actively playing in the dream. I've never been "part of the game's universe".

>mfw every "new idea for a fun videogame" dream i've ever had results in being depressed for the whole week cause they're usually entries in series that are owned by companies that I could never make a game in their franchise cause copyright, and making my own knockoff-at-best wouldn't thematically stay true to the dream, and the companies themselves are too shit to even come close to making them how I see them in my dreams.

Dunno how many different and new Zelda and Mario games ranging from 8-bit to 3D i've played in the dreamworld that have ruined me from enjoying either series as they exist now.
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>>154433981
lamo git good
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Just finished Leading the Charge in MH3U, very comfy so far. Planning on buying it for the Wii U (got my 3DS copy for free) so /mhg/ can carry me
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>>154433921
I mostly play solo so readiness is necessary if you want to position yourself properly, or if you need to reload without wanting to commit to an adept evade's animation or a normal reload animation.

>>154433981
break the wings
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>>154434171
ah, gotcha.
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>>154433896
>endgame set with Defense skill
Throw it in the trash. why would capcom even do this.
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>all these non-sns users complaining about easy rathalos
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>>154427582

I like La Foi for Normal 2. I'm using Weakness Exploit, Normal Up, Critical Eye +2, and Critical Boost.

I just bring 99 Huskberry and Needleberry to each hunt, as per another anon's suggestion.
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>>154434157

You can transfer your save from the 3DS to the Wii U if you want. I've been trying to get comfy hunts with /mhg/ but nobody bites
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>>154434443
Sounds like the HayaSol set with a normal up 5 OOO charm, right? I don't have any godcharms
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So its agreed by /mhg/ that LBGs are better than HBGs, even Normal and Pierce firing?

>Full House is an aamzing HA that lepts you keep up the damage, DPS king
>great mobility, even without adept. With adept, they are untouchable
>RF elemental and Normal2/Pierce1 and keep up damage

With HBG, you will rarely be in siege mode for more than 5-6 seconds at a time before needing to move to avoid an attack or stay in critical range.

Who /LBGmasterrace/ here?
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>>154434661
lol
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>>154434375
no clue. It's not even Defense up(L), it's a 15 defense boost, which isn't noticeable.
I assume it was so you could be "safer" when trying to have red health to trigger resentment, but the skill does so little.
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>>154434046
Will do, but later because I wanna make a game out of it.
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>>154434587
I already know that anon but thank you for the info!! Hopefully I can do online keys fast and play with you someday ~
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>>154434784

fuck off retard
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>>154434659

Hayabusa
Sol
Storge R
Sol
Sol
Normal Up +5 OOO

Yeah
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>>154434659
>when u a gen cuck conditioned into thinking a skill+5 charm is a god charm
feelsbadman
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>>154434661
>So its agreed by /mhg/ that LBGs are better than HBGs, even Normal and Pierce firing?
lol

>Full House is an aamzing HA that lepts you keep up the damage, DPS king
Absolute readiness is better in 90% of cases because you won't need to reload all of your ammo at once unless you're using the meme musket, and you'd be constantly reloading with adept

>great mobility, even without adept. With adept, they are untouchable
Adept hbg is untouchable as well with adept , the only things lbg has are element shots and mobility.

>RF elemental and Normal2/Pierce1 and keep up damage
>he doesn't know about the .7 modifier on lbg rapid fire raw bullets
but lbg is better for element
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>tfw no good GS armor sets
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>>154434661
Lbg is way better than hbg in gen. The daora HBG in even the most optimal of conditions of unloading full clips of crouching pierce is only doing like 20 more DPS than a pierce 1 rapid LBG with bonus shot, and even then the LBG gets over double the amount of damage from rapid and bonus shot in the same amount of ammo as an HBG can carry.
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>>154435150
Black S is okay.
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>>154434836
I don't have a good enough charm, what would be the best skill to drop? I'm thinking probably the CE+2, right?
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>>154435150
The Black set from the pokke mine isn't too bad.
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>>154435150
Black S, maybe Grimclaw.
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Are you fucking retarded?

You should never reload normally unless its your first reload ever. Lets take wondrous star for example. It can fire all 3 Pierces and has internal dragon and shrapnel S

>load pierce 1, fire off untill HA full
>do Full houe
>switch between Pierce 1,2,3,internal shots until HA full
>repeat

Only thing HBG is good for is siege mode and you can't even do that most of the time because of attacks and critical range.
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>>154435427

meant for this retard >>154434945
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>>154399394
zappy baton from deus ex. it stunned peoepl.
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>>154435427
>Silverwind LBG
>shoot off pierce 1 rapid clip
>full house
>switch to para1 shots, shoot
>switch to para2 shots, shoot
>switch to slicing1 shots, shoot
>switch to slicing2 shots, shoot
>full house
>para2 shots, paralyze monster
>shoot 2 and a half full clips of rapid pierce 1
Fullhouse is hella fun
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>>154434059
>>154434152
t.gunner shitters

Must be nice when literally everything in the game is easy mode.
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>>154435825

yep, by the time you've done all that, the HBG will still be unsheathing.

lol
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>>154435303

You get that for free from the helm, so maybe a different helm might let you keep the other two skills. I did a whoooooole lot of coal runs for a FastCharge +5 OOO talisman and ended up with a bunch of other good ones I never expected to use.
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>>154435171
>Lbg is way better than hbg in gen. The daora HBG in even the most optimal of conditions of unloading full clips of crouching pierce is only doing like 20 more DPS than a pierce 1 rapid LBG with bonus shot

OH MAN
>bonus shot
>when hbg could just stack on another attack boosting skill and do even more damage than you

Do you know how much 20dps is?

>and even then the LBG gets over double the amount of damage from rapid and bonus shot in the same amount of ammo as an HBG can carry.
100% of monsters in generations die before you would run out of combines with any ammo type unless you can't aim, so the "ammo efficiency" thing is retarded.
one Rapid fire lbg volley does about the same amount as 2 regular hbg shots (a 4 shot volley doing about as much damage as 2.8 or 3 hbg shots).
when in crouching fire, the hbg can shoot 2 shots faster than you can unleash a volley of 3.

>>154435427
>i'm the retard
>he can't read where i said "absolute readiness is better in 90% of cases"

The lbgs that like full house are:
anything that you're just using plain raw shots (why would you when HBG does 15% more damage with raw shots any way)
lost musket
anything that you're switching between a lot of status shots with (like god's isle)

>Only thing HBG is good for is siege mode and you can't even do that most of the time because of attacks and critical range.
Except the part where HBG's raw shots do 15% more damage than an LBG's raw shot,

Find me a TA where the LBG time beats an HBG time while using raw shots.
but let me guess "t-t-t-t-the average player isn't a japanese autist TA-er!"
or some excuse like that.

I'm clearly being baited.
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>>154435949
That's what I'm thinking, yeah. I mean, CE+2 looks like the smallest boost out of all of them. I could drop Normal Up, especially because I already have the full HayaSol set, but that's probably the biggest attack boost of the whole skill set, right?
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>silverwind 7
>never limps so I end up killing it twice in a row

nice fucking shit mate, nice waste of time
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>>154434858
I don't know how many fucking rare "god" charms in Gen i'd sold from the quest rewards screen before i knew how valuable +5 was when i was expecting 4U's +10-13 stuff.

Uggg.
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>need a couple Dreadking VII tickets (on-site items cap)
>join a random room
>owner immediately guns for the trap
>"well, he must know what he's doing"
>about 7 minutes in, no sign of limps, the room owner plants the trap
>his auto-message is WORD-FOR-WORD: "Let me waste this trap right here"
>pic related
>Rath wasn't ready for cap, so everyone but me abandons
>right as they leave, supplies arrive
>spend the next 5 minutes fighting Rath until I cap it

That was amusing in more ways than one. Joining randoms is always a brand new surprise.
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>>154436302

I think it's a 1.10 damage multiplier
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>>154436413

I did this earlier during a Grimclaw hunt. I could have sworn I saw him limp. Other guy was nice enough to stay for a while but eventually disconnects. Then, right as he does, supplies arrive.
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>>154436439
Crit eye+2 is on average 5% damage boost
with crit boost, it jumps to an 8% boost.

reminder that normal up is 10%
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>>154436439
It is. Whereas, iirc, affinity is only 2.5 or 4% raw per 10% aff (depending on crit boost)
So I suppose I'll drop the Haya feather then.
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>>154436636
I think the most amusing thing was his auto-message. I couldn't believe it. And by the looks of it, he wasn't just fucking with us, as he was trying to taunt Rath into walking into the trap and signaling for us to do the same every 5 seconds.
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i'm trying out HH and based on the Japanese TAs the most popular one is the Akantor Dark Melody.

Got it upgraded but it has a smidgen of green while a lot of yellow. Why is this weapon popular?

Also, what's the endgame armour / skills for HH and GS?

thanks
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>>154436934
because sharpness don't mean shit on its own
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>>154436279

nice wall of text, this is what slow must feel like when you're using an HBG

lmao
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>>154420114
Should have been this.
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>>154437154
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>>154436279
>Find me a TA where the LBG time beats an HBG time while using raw shots.
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>>154436394
the skills that went 10-13 still do anon.

+5 is equal to a +6.
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>>154436279
Nah man. The optimal daora HBG hame set with AuM and Pierce Up and peak performance only does 20 more dps than my Silverwind LBG set with crit eye 2, bonus shot and repeat offender for a virtually gauranteed 100% affinity. You're not adding any extra offensive skills on top of the HBG hame set. That hame set is shit outside of Zinogre too, and its chinks are all the more apparent if you try to use it in a non-hame room. 60 shots and 90+ combines aren't enough as the single gunner in a deviant room, and being frugal with combines is a good thing to save against needless spending on their materials. For every monster except deviants, nakarkos, and alatreon, the ammo conservation of the LBG also practically guarantees you wont even need to combine even after a considerable amount of missed shots or shots outside crit range. On average it only takes 30-40 rapid pierce bonus shots, while the daora hbg will need 80+

And no 20dps is not significant when both are doing over 160 anyway. Thats also only in siege mode which isn't manageable or reliable for a majority of monsters without choosing adept, then you're deciding between Absolute Readiness or Gunpowder Infusion.
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>>154429903
>Farcaster

#go home lil nigga
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>make some para DBs in 4u high rank
>3 paras in a six minute hunt
>don't even have status up
Dear lord the nerf was just
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>>154437762
>>154437618

HBG cucks absolutely BTFO

kill yourself in a slow painful death like your HBG
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>Scholarly S
Don't even care about the skills as much, I'm rocking this for fashion.
>razor sharp
>trap master
>bio researcher
>capture master
I could switch out trap master for perception, especially when it comes to deviant hunts though.
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Turns room,

36-4901-2510-6252

2 Spots
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>>154438343
Second Jho looks scary, Devilgog
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>>154438343
>deviljho will never get a sub species
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>>154437618
was gonna mention that as well but decided against it since daora has internal freeze and he'll throw a hissyfit.

could always go silverwind or grimclaw where hbg is full pussymode and doesn't even try.
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>>154438665
Theres an hbg silverwind run on youtube
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charge blade tips for generations noob pls?
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>>154439038

Use adept and learn to master Perfect guard and Perfect Evade. Never look back
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>>154435871
t. hammer autist incapable of seeing irony
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>>154439252
>Use adept
what does this mean?
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>trying to gem in partbreaker
>no mats for the lvl 3
>brute force it in with seven lvl 1 jewels
I feel dirty
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>>154439579
keep me updated
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>>154439371
The "Adept" Style, you can change this at your Equipment Box in your house
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>>154439579

Liked and subscribed
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>>154439843
>>154439776
Fuck is your problem?
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>>154439776
>>154439843
Oh shut up, I thought it was humorous
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Is Dreadking Rath really as horrible to hunt as it sounds? I'm looking for a general use CB set that doesn't look like ass and provides decent skills, and it seems like a pretty good set to work towards.
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>>154439579

>Partbreaker

cringe
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>>154439901
>>154439935

Just teasing
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>>154439837
what does that do? there's no documentation anywhere. All I found is "dodge and counter".
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>>154439935
just avin a giggle squee :P
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>>154439985

>needing HGE and Windpress on Adept CB

cringe
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>>154440064
It's different for each weapon

The dodge negates the attack completely and puts you into a running state with a followup option
The guard blocks without any stamina or health loss and has a followup option
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>>154440120
>cringe

Cringe
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>>154440226
>>cringe

>cringe

cringe
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>>154440120
>implying Adept

even if I was using Adept, not having to worry about dodging roars every single time sounds pretty nice. however if there's a better set out there I can spend time working on for CB please, enlighten me
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>>154440397
>>>cringe
>
>>cringe
>
>cringe

Cringe
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>>154440449

>NOT using adept CB
>needing HGE
>not using cookie cutter CE+3,RS,Crit Boost and WE set with Tigrex CB and ABsolute Readiness

cringe
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DAE cringe?!??!?!?!
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>>154440449
It's not about the roar dodging. It's about the perfect guards you miss out on. Otherwise, for any other style, guard +1 or 2 would be added just to reduce knockback and chip damage.
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>>154440643
cringe
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>>154440643
Fuck you reddit
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>>154389974
Oh Shit! can you please give me the list of your armor I want to redo this
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>>154440880
>not being able to recognize what the armor is from the pic
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>>154440742
cringe
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>>154440983
Cringe
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>>154440634
do you have an example set with those skills m80?
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>>154441280

Hayabusa Feather
Silver Solmail
Silver Solbraces
Silver Solcoil
Silver Solgreaves
-----------------
+5 Sharpness OOO
-----------------
1x Razor Jwl 3
2x Tenderizer Jwl 1
2x Critical Jwl 1
1x Razor Jwl 1
----------
CE+2, RS, CB, WE
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>>154441280
Use ASS retard
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This is a shitty silverwind farming set, right dudes?
it probably looks pretty, but kirin not having any natural affinity probably hurts a lot.
Hayabusa/Escadora/Escadora R mix, with:
>Element atk up
>Thunder atk +2
>Crit Eye+3
>Elemental crit
I can get +3 CE, but with my current charms it ruins the whole alatreon look I have going on.
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>>154437618
I did say show me and you did, you got me, I even checked if that image was outdated.
It's a shit comparison because the jap using the hbg was using a retarded set.

Lbg's set is
+35 raw, +30 affinity, +10% damage to normal shots,

while the hbg's set was
+20 raw +10% affinity +10% damage to normal shots

>>154437762
I just did the math for you.

Daora's grande starting raw - 230, 10% affinity
Silverwind gun's starting raw - 200, 40% affinity

Just with the raw boosting skills, the daora's grande is sitting at 265 raw
The silverwind set is sitting at 200 raw and 90% affinity.

The damage formula for gun damage is [ (ATTACK X BULLET X HITZONE X AVERAGE AFFINITY X DIST X SKILL X WEAPON X SPECIAL) X (RAPID) x (Defense which we will ignore because it wont affect the outcume)

pretending we're both shooting at rathian's head and magically landing all 3 hits of the pierce shots on it

Daora grande (265 x [.09x3] x .70 x (1 +(.1 x 1.25)) x 1.5 x [skill refers to things like true shot up] x 1.48 x 1.10) = 138 damage per shot

silverwind (200 x [.09x3] x .70 x (1+(.9 x 1.25)) x 1.5 x [ignoring the skill category] x 1.3) x (.70) = 110 damage per shot (440 for the entire volley of 4)

It seems that you may be right, however I don't know how many shots an hbg can fire in the same time an LBG can launch one volley of 4 shots so I can't give you a definite answer of which is better.

However in every TA time that i checked (except thunderlord), hbg outpreformed LBG if they were using the same set and bullet type, which confuses me.
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>>154441453
cringe
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>>154441280
It requires a perfect God charm but the set is possible.
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>>154441528
this is with kirin DBs, I should add.
and their large nat white.
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>>154441573
cringe
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>>154441573

The perfect hacked charm*
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>>154441534
>1.48
holy shit, where did I get that from, it's 1.5 which changes the hbg damage to 140 per shot,
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>>154441573
>Razor sharp
>For that little amount of white
>For a fast weapon

Gen really made useless RS and Handy.
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>>154438214
LBG cucks rapid fire semen into their hands while superior HBGs pierce deep into the pussy.
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>>154438343

O---
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>>154441534
>However in every TA time that i checked (except thunderlord), hbg outpreformed LBG if they were using the same set and bullet type, which confuses me.

It's because it's harder to find openings for volleys of shots than it is to find openings for single shots.
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>>154442182
cringe
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>>154441534
Cringe
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>>154440920
that might be hard, the chest is a guild quest armor with +5 covert and i cant recall what the charm is, but you can probably figure it out easily
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>>154442372
woops, this was meant for this
>>154440880
im out, gtg to sleep
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The lander food skill will let me jump off of cliffs and huge drops without breaking the item I'm holding right?
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>>154441534
>spreadsheets are more important than actually playing

less wall of text. more use of brain.
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>>154442350
>>154442239
>>154441690
Say cringe one more fucking time and I will literally find where you live and beat the living shit out of you, you fucking waste of space.
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>>154442182

virgin detected

cringe
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>>154442032
>bounding dalamadur

4U really made useless RS and Handy.
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>>154442668
But you've got to use your brain to do the math from the spreedsheets.

And the Jap player's actual playing seem to agree with my original conclusion.
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>>154442915
for >>154442617
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>>154439038

cringe
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>>154443070
>billy herrington

cringe
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>>154442864
>One weapon
That's really fun, anon!

Point is that set can use something else instead of RS.
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>>154442527
Go try it. Be brave.
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>>154440673
You can dodge/perfect block things otherwise nullified by skills. I have a blunt set that comes with HGE and I block roars all the time.
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>>154443197
sure it can. if it want to be worse.

>>154442617
you can't discard it as a garbage set if he for some reason need those extra combines. but I was mostly referring to
>hbg outpreformed LBG if they were using the same set and bullet type, which confuses me.
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>>154443493
Be brave, motherfuckers.
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>think of making an lbg set
>escadora helmet r
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>>154443804
for >>154443029
I fucking replied to myself. time for bed.
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>>154443653
I'm not advocating a cookie cutter set or anything but is that really something viable to have for a CB? HGE and Blunt along with something else?
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>>154443893
>lbg is Alatreon's true weakness
>this scrub can't even
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>>154443934
No. I just use it for fun. I like the Kaiser Blade.
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>>154444024
Is that the final form of the Teo CB or are we not even talking about the charge blade at this point? Glad to see you do use different sets purely for fun.
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>>154444090
final form of Elite Blade
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>>154444090
http://mhgen.kiranico.com/chargeblade/elite-blade

Yup, still CB.
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>>154414450
Load up, normal up, focus, trueshotup
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>>154444374
That makes little sense when Teo armor is called Kaiser in a few games. Confusing.
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>>154443804
>>154443915

You're right, each thunderlord in that quest (according to kiranico) has about 7741 hp.

you're able to bring 495 shots on a quest
Average of 396
Minimum of 297

assuming you're hitting the hind legs every time using la foi (with CE+2 and normal up as your only skills and no talons/charms etc), you'd be doing (230 x .12 x .35 x (1+(.5x1.25)) x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.10) x .8 or 32 damage per shot

meaning you'd need only 241 shots to kill him.

I'm sure he could have just brought the mass combiner skill with a useful set but eh.
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>>154444517
thanks mate
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>>154444532
It was Kaiser Blade in 4U as well.
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>>154441534
A single siege takes 0.7 seconds to fire and a single pierce1 rapid bonus volley-shot takes 2.0 seconds to fire.
/////////////////////////////////
HBG set (Daora Grande, attack up M, crit eye +2, pierce up, peak performance)
281 attack (271 + might seed + demon drug)
301 attack after Peak Performance (+20)
301 x 1.5HBG modifier = 451 attack
pierce 1 (9 x 3 hits)
pierce up -> +10% + 451 = 496
496 x 0.09 = 44 damage per hit, times 3 hits is 132 damage per bullet
30% crit (10% + crit eye 2)
25% critical damage, crit damage is 608 with pierce up
608 x 0.09 = 54 damage per crit, times 3 hits is 162 damage per bullet

162 x 18 + 132 x 42 = 6084 damage over 60 shots in 42 seconds = 144.85 dps
////////////////////////////////////////
LBG set (Daybreak gaze, crit eye +3, bonus shot, repeat offender)
235 attack (225 + might seed + demon drug)
235 x 1.3LBG modifer = 305 attack
rapid fire pierce 1 (9 x 3 hits) rapid .7 multiplier
305 x 0.09 x 0.7 = 19 damage per hit, x3 hits is 57 per shot, x4 shots is 228 damage per bullet
100% crit (40% + crit eye 3 + repeat offender)
25% critical damage, crit damage is 381
381 x 0.09 x 0.7 = 24 damage per crit, x3 hits is 72 per shot, x4 shots is 288 damage per bullet

288 x 60 = 17280 damage over 60 shots over 120 seconds = 144 dps
/////////////////////////////
the above doesn't take into account crit distance, hitzones, talons/charms, kitchen food or time spent reloading / absolute readiness evading. The Daora HBG probably squeaks out ahead without the aim being locked for rapid shots and less time spent with Absolute Readiness reloads.

If we consider the mag size of a siege pierce 1 Daora being 12 shots, thats 12 x 0.7 = 8.4 seconds of 144.85 dps = 1216 damage

The clips size for rapid pierce 1 Daybreak is 5 shots, so thats 5 x 2.0 = 10 seconds of 144 dps = 1440 damage

It's also worth noting that it takes a decent charm to make the LBG Silverwind set here whereas the Daora HBG set is practically free.
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>>154438343

O---
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Is Adept the best style for HH?
I don't feel like it's arts are usefuland that way I can focus on fitting skills apart of the previously needed Eva+x or Earplugs.

Also, what skills should I go for?
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>>154445371

no its guild
abs eva abs ready
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>>154443893

>Partbreaker Normal HBG/Rapid Bow
>Subquest in less than 2 minutes

Source: Farmed for six Skypiercers in the last hour
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>>154445371
All the styles have merit, though I think Striker's the least enticing.

I like to use the Najarala HH with Aerial for going full debilitation mode, plus the fact that you can perform a quick-recital once you land and get tunes off real quick with low risk is pretty nice.

That said, Adept's focus on doing high-reaching vertical attacks while also being able to dodge out of each individual hit is also pretty decent.
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>>154445619
>tfw have fought 34 alatreon
>tfw have subquest on all but 4 of them
>tfw only 1 Skypiercer
>50% (break horns)
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>>154445619
>Partbreaker Normal HBG/Rapid Bow
>I've been using lost musket
>it takes like 8 minutes for me to break horns
Am I just awful? it's always flying/moving it's wings in the way/moving it's head up and down.
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>>154445803
cringe
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>mfw Lavasioth was significantly more fun than I expected
Man, this feeling. The feeling of hunting this Lavasioth.
I haven't felt this feeling since I started with Tri.

Its fight is so much more enjoyable than the other Piscine Wyverns. By an order of magnitude. Jesus.
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>>154446014
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>>154445101
in the same amount of time (10 seconds) the daora hbg does 1448 dps

In the perfect situation where neither would have to reload, move, combine or aim the daora hbg barely squeaks ahead, killing something with 100,000 hp in 69.0608 seconds while the silverwind kills it in 69.4444 seconds

As of now im pretty sure the HBG only kills things faster because it's easier to land one shot perfectly than it is to land 4 in a row and that tiny critical distance for pierce shots which is hard to keep when rapid firing.
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>>154438343

One spot open
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>>154445101
the daora set will only be ahead by the .85 dps difference on top of more than likely landing most hits compared to the rapid bonus shots which may miss, but thats about it. LBG can substitute Absolute Readiness with fullhouse and get fullhouse from every single 5 shot clip, and triggering fullhouse after the last rapid pierce from the volley comes out will cut down on reloading time by cancelling recoil, which would take just as much time as an HBG absolute readiness evading - maybe even less time since the HBG has to go back into siege mode and adjust aim. So that +0.85dps and generally more reliable shot placement is all it's getting.
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>>154446105
>uguu glomps kisses poster is also frogposter
typical
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>>154446337
Does this look like a motherfucking frog to you?
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>>154446473
it dont look like an elder dragon either but guess what it is bitch
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>>154446337
>make public enemy of yourself
>assume only one person is gonna post against you
>muh cringe
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>>154446301

we also have a HR 4 kek
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>>154446532
cringe
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>>154446527
My bad.
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>>154446589
I've been notified by the Chameleos Police that I have to start using more realistic pictures, but I honestly don't have many, so maybe tone down the cringeposting, eh?
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>>154446756
I think you should learn to draw if you're having trouble with stock
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I want to be inside chameleos
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>>154446817
But then it'd all look like this.
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>>154446919
I want a chameleos to steal me from my team, never to be seen again.
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>>154446919
I want to be stolen away from my team by Chameleos and taken to his rape cave.
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Why do you people do this
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>that guy who eats for crazy/ultra lucky cat
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>>154438343
1 slot
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>>154447140
I want to do it to you!
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>>154446756
As a hardworking Chameleos citizen, i can offer you this one.
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>>154446919

I want Chameleos to make me his butt slave and mercilessly rim me every day.
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>>154447337
Maybe we should all take some time and draw some Chameleos so we all have more to work with.
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>>154447403
If i tried to draw a Chameleos it would come out looking like a Cephadrome.

AKA garbage.
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>>154447403
Here you go. I drew this one just now.
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Does anyone still do charm runs at this point, or do I have to solo farm now?
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>>154447504
Cephadrome a cute.
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>>154447637
I GET IT.

CUZ HE'S INVISIBLE RIGHT.
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>>154447637
That's not a Chameleos. That's a white rectangle. This is a Chameleos.

Idiot.
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>>154447815
I like the artwork in this one. The best I've seen yet.
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>>154447815
Just look at that pose
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>>154447815
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>>154448123
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New thread

>>154448187
>>154448187
>>154448187
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>>154447142
>he ends up being the best hunter in the group

that has literally never been the case
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