>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS (embed)
>EO V Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
>EO V Skill Simulator
http://waifusims.com/EOV/skillSim.html
https://jii.moe/EkvsTrdY-.html# (Class Skills)
https://jii.moe/VyvBiy6dW.html# (Race Skills)
>EO V item and quest translation list
http://pastebin.com/c4uzKptj (embed) (Item list)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oz2FGmL0QpE2-Qkb8zz-t_MP_WEpDo6gzlA29-wJIDw/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 (Quest list)
http://pastebin.com/8sJhutN7 (embed) (Conditional drops)
>EO V color editor.
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/
>EO V VA list
http://pastebin.com/gM4KaYjs (embed)
>EO V Game & DLC.cia link
https://mega.nz/#F!XkJiHBIb!vzL2CLjZZVA-yAGS7UZgdA
Previews Thread:
>>153458906
I was going to make a new thread with buttato.
>>154001115
But a mod might delete the thread because the buttato.
inb4 stop posting here and use the thread I made out of spite
>>154002816
Post more cute EO tummies to make people realize this is the correct thread
>>154001161
That wouldn't happen again... would it?
Necromancer is cute. CUTE
I finally played EO2U after ignoring it since pre order.
What happened to force, and what the hell are grimoires?
Literally impossible.
>>154005869
Well yeah, balancing an egg on its tip is difficult, but certainly not impossible.
>>154005869
I don't even remember it having two phases
>>154006129
Of course you don't. You played on easy mode after all.
>>154006169
that's expert
unless you mean having an underleveled beast is easy mode then yeah that's easy mode
>>154006292
Classic = easy.
>>154006346
>can't get fafnir and Chloe to shit out nukes
You're just a scrub.
>>154006346
>playing story
>>154006445
>playing on easy mode
>>154006587
story has easier ur-devil setups
>>154001115
slightly better resolution
EOV FM OST download link when?
>>154010297
Since release day in this thread.
>>154006292
>tfw you insta kill Ur-Devil to farm Ragnaroks in order to kill Ur-Child
>Only one character in my team can use swords
>>154010381
Official release so we can get actual track titles when?
>>154006445
Why would you play classic in an Untold? Everyone should have already played that game.
The only people that hate story mode, is the people that self-insert in a videogame.
Story mode is mediocre like every rpg ever made.
>>154017616
>Story mode is mediocre like every rpg ever made
It's even worse, because it plays against the core mechanics of the series.
>>154017897
>because it plays against the core mechanics of the series
Except it doesn't.
>>154017957
>don't commit salad genocide
what the fuck's the point then
>>154017957
Yeah, I guess building your own party with the classes you wanted and being able to replace them whenever was never an important part of the series.
It was always about waifu faggotry and whether you prefer ricky dicky or canadian gargle instead.
>>154018212
>>154018086
Most of the people that play this game play it only with a party of 5. Only a few use the 30 slots for their characters.
Story mode offer just an official self-insert game mode. The "Untold" story.
The game progress and events are the same (in U2 at least) so the story is told from another perspective.
So it doesn't go against the core mechanics of the series.
>>154018212
There's nothing stopping you from reclassing story characters.
>>154018483
The point isn't that you only play with five party members, it's that you have the freedom to choose those, give them portraits, names, personalities, and so on. You can reclass in Story Mode, but you're still heavily restricted by stat growth.
>>154018962
Yes, but that is not the "core"
The core is to explore dungeons, and that is still there.
Reclass is an option when you want versatility.
>>154018483
It does go about the core mechanics. Self-inserting was never one of them no matter how hard highlander and fafnir want you to hink it is.
Story matters not when we're talking about the mechanics, and you still aren't adressing the issue of party composition. You're given a fixed party. And that's it. You could dare reclass some of them, but there's only so much that you will be allowed to do because stat spread and growth remain after the reclass. You cna't just go and maxe Simon a hexer. He'll suck at it and there's nothing you can do to avoid that.
So Untold does go against the core mechanics of the series.
On top of that, just because an option isn't used by everyone doesn't make it meaningless. Not to mention that just having the option, even if you normally don't use it, is a good safeguard in case you don't like the party you came up with.
Is there a point using Rear Guard ever?
>>154019141
>The core is to explore dungeons, and that is still there.
Might as well play MeiQ instead. It's also about exploring dungeons and already has a better cast than Untold.
>>154019208
When your party has 3 alchemist there, yes.
>>154019141
It's certainly not the entirety of what makes EO the series it is, but I'd argue that it takes up good real estate.
>>154019208
When a fat old doujin man tries to do anal on you.
>>154019208
>>154019141
Dude, the fine work with party composition and combats is precisely what sets EO apart from other dungeon crawlers. You cna't just brush it aside as an unimportant side feature.
>>154019554
Yes, and you can still do that in story mode. There is reclass and grimoires.
>>154019251
>>154019453
But if something hits so hard it does a lot of damage to the back row, it would outright kill whoever is in front row, unless you use Front Guard.
>>154019705
That's why I play with 2 protectors and 3 alchemists
>>154019652
Again, reclassing is shit and severely impairs said composition. You just get a shadow of what actual party building is.
>>154019774
It doesn't matter. You can beat the game even if you reclass some characters.
I did it with Simon as a Landshark with healing grimoires and it was great
>>154019869
You could also beat the game without drawing a map or touching gathering points, but that hardly matters.
What does story mode offer in exchange of a gimped party composition? I guess Untold 1 has Glastheim and Kupala, which were more of a mistake on Atlus' side. Other than that, all you get is bland dialogues from bland characters, which I could very easily chalk off as a con.
>>154020613
>can't cheese the game with broken or outright bugged party composition
>call it "gimped"
>>154020613
You get to play EOU as it was designed to be played. Classic is an afterthought and the lack of content in it reflects that.
Even when they fixed classic for EOU2, the "true fans" found something else to nitpick about.
>>154020838
(you)
What a bitch
>>154023313
Right?
>>154023432
tayama pls go
Not like this. Not like this.
Fencer and shaman combo is kind of OP isn't it?
>>154032672
You really have to struggle to find parties that aren't OP.
>>154032781
Five reapers.
>>154032781
My
Cestus/dragoon/reaper
Herbalis/warlock
Was struggling more than the party 10 levels behind that had fencer+shaman combo
>>154032884
>everything falls asleep every other turn
Just started to play eo3. I'm about 6 hours in and it's quite fun but there is like no waifu material the fuck?
>>154036920
look at this tasteless faggot
>>154036920
????????
She's mine btw get another one.
>>154036920
>no waifu material
>>154036920
You just wanted pictures of best zodiac, right?
>>154037092
>>154037202
>>154037237
>>154037335
EO3U is gonna be great
>>154010123
upscaling it using 2x doesn't make it better resolution.
>>154038714
Better class balance
New Seaquests
New dungeon (maybe part of the seaquests)
New story class
Expert Anemone, expert Leviathan.
>>154040112
>Seaquest locations get expanded into mini dungeons instead of just a bossfight.
>>154040112
What if they take back snake charmer or doll maker?
>>154040242
>Discovered cities are actual functional cities with facilities and background art
>>154040112
Removed Trauma Center cameos
>>154040480
They really hated them or something. I get the clinic being gone, but quests and dungeon appearances too?
>>154040480
Take that back.
I seriously doubt they remove her from deep city. Unless Atlus lost the licence or something.
>>154040826
There wasn't enough space on the roster.
>>154042192
They had the nerve to include them in the Untold artbook.
>>154042489
We got stuck with the wrong purple princess.
>>154042489
why are the guys always one head taller than the girls they're paired withwhy can't it be the other way around
>>154042718
Because it makes the girl look cuter.
>>154042642
should've bought her game.
>>154042489
Ricky is totally going to get the Highlander dick in that picture
>>154042830
Sanshiro-san wouldn't let me.
>>154043051
>gets heart pupils from a platonic shoulder touch
that's just what she's hoping for.
>>154043078
You have failed us, Kamen Rider.
>>154043229
Arianna pls.
You cockblocked yourself
Chloe is ________
>>154043863
Chloe
>>154043863
a shitty girl
>>154043863
fertile
>>154043863
Always on top of Bert
>>154043863
amazing
>>154043863
Cute
>>154046960
>nipple
>>154047323Shut up, before the mods come
>>154043229
implying
>>154049973
Ricky is a poor role model for shiitake
>my DH has been using the same whip for two stratums
>retire and grind for 10 levels on picnic
>still no new whips unlocking
my war magus is doing 2x the amount of damage she's doing on normal attacks
I want to run a ronin in EO2U, what do they synergize with?
>>154052658
Troubadour and Landsnack can make for a good Perfect Chaser team. They're mostly a standalone unit otherwise, just make sure nothing gibs them while they set up their shit.
>>154052658
someone who's good at throwing amritas and nectars
Dedrian Dedyssey
>gave one of my characters a kanji name
>forgot the reading
>>154057195
Show me the name
>>154058018
Yoken? Shokon?
Is that thing a name at all? Should be those syllabes, unless you wanted to be a smartass and mix up readings to get something like Yoda or Shota.
Nectar
>>154040924
>Lost the license
They created the game in the first place. They own it.
>tfw only EO2 had Nectall
>>154060843
They realized their mistake when they saw there wasn't a Necshort.
>>154060830
At least the doctor from EO1 was in Untold 2.
Maybe the medic and the nurse will be in Untold 3.
>>154060990
>>154040924
They want everyone to forget it existed in first place so people will stop asking why there is no Trauma Center for Wii U.
>>154062431
Jokes on them, I'm going to ask why there's no Snowboard Kids for anything.
>>154062738
Well, they didn't develop SK, Racdym did.
This is not an image of Ricky
>>154065769
That's bullshit, but I'll believe it.
About to start the Esbat fight but I'm confused
Which of the two do I focus? Any boss that isn't "throw everything you have at one guy and kill the adds" fries my brain.
>>154071457
I always try to kill both around the same turns
>>154069031
Finally someone who likes arianna besides me
>>154071457
focus on the one who gives you most trouble and kill them before third turn of their boost
the second one will go into their boost, survive the two turns and when the second uses force break (third turn of boost) use force break with beast or protector, since art/wilheim die after they break
>>154071457
Artelinde likes to bind up your tanking unit during her three party turns, so that can ruin a perfectly good run real fast. She's also immune to literally fucking everything.
>>154071938
I can't hate a woman who looks at a giant, man-slaughtering beast and says "Yes, I would like to eat that."
and i'm a sucker for the "princess and knight" archtype
>>154072675
>and i'm a sucker for the "princess and knight" archtype
that andchildhood friendsare the biggest things for me.
Not to mind I really like her dorky voice, does she say "ara" constantly in the JP version?
>>154071457
just beat it, I went with "throw out poison and whoever gets hit by it, dogpile them", which happened to mean the gunner. My party wiped once because of the suicide attack. Is there any way to survive it if you're running a meme no-beast/protector party?
Now I'm on Scylla. I hear that this is THE WALL. Going to go in blind first and get dunked. I sure hope this boss isn't immune to poison...
>>154076426
No more gays.
>>154076949
There is nothing gay about dressing up as a pretty meido.
>>154076436
She must be looking at my penis.
>>154078146
Your penis and every men of Etrian and High Lagaard
>>154077189
Fucking homo.
Feng
>>154082193
a cute.
>>154082193
My wife
>>154082193
Inferior to Chloe
>>154082318
Your wife is also the whole town wife
>>154082530
Delete this.
>>154082530
>untoldion
Ewww.
>>154074269
I'm pretty sure Artelinde is immune to EVERYTHING but stun now, which is pretty damn annoying. As for ways of surviving that shit without a tank:
1)Pile on defensive buffs and hit Defend, hoping someone survives, offensive debuffs might also help.
2)Attempt to dodge tank the thing with a Survivalist's Force Boost and aggro/evade boosting skill, which means they can't get hit with leg binds at all
I assume you went with:
3)Just kill the bitch, this option is probably the least annoying to pull off, you'll want to get her to just above Force Boost HP first though for best results, no reason not to go all out unless you're covered in binds. I think I remember stunning her with Gunner's Force Break to prevent that from happening for a turn so I could set up for max damage.
>>154082593
Delete this, she's pure
Don't give the dentist (you)s
Misshapen teeth are a gift of nature fuck you defanger.
>>154083568
t. Asian
>>154083468
Maybe her nostrils are still pure. Just maybe
Why don't we move out to any slower general?
Maybe /an/ might be a good choice
____ the salad to keep this thread alive.
Quick Japanese-related question:
Would 貴様の野郎たち make sense for a guild name?
>>154086981
Is that dupposed to be "you lot of jerks" or "your lot of jerks"
>>154087257
The former.
Canadians are for ________
>>154090069
overthrowing
>>154090589
hi teach
>>154090069
Household chores.
What level do I need Barrier at? Can I leave it at 1/5?
How much bonus EXP does the Yggdrasil tea give compared to a regular dish you can make from the evil eye FOE?
I realized I can stay in the labyrinth indefinitely on 5th stratum thanks to its SP refilling machines.
>>154096509
20 or bust
>>154096872
A huge lot of experience
>>154096872
A shitload more cause you can pay2win dlc to get it whenever you want it
Have you all completed every Etrian Odyssey game to 100% completion in your heart?
>>154108098
Only in my heart
>>154108098
Everything but 2U.
I'll deal with Ur-Devil whenever EO5 localization gets announced.
>>154108098
EMD doesn't count!
>>154111324
>EO4
>Nightseeker/Arcanist
>Landshark(non link)/Fortress
>Runemaster/Imperial
>Medic/Dancer
>Sniper/Nightseeker
Am I retarded?
millenom girl > famed adventurer > ant food
>>154114923
you can beat EO4 with literally whatever so it doesn't matter
rune/imp will automatically carry the game for you
>>154114923
Why is your medic sub-dancer with that desolated back row?
Why is your runemaster in the front line?
>>154114923
No, but the game is retarded
>>154115129
>>154115387
Sick.
>>154115141
>Why is your medic sub-dancer with that desolated back row?
Somehow I missed the "on your line" thing when reading every single dancer skill.
>Why is your runemaster in the front line?
To be honest, I don't really know where to put them because Swordbreaker does such a good job protecting them and Runic Shield has been really helpful on the front line.
>>154115141
Rune has a lot of line buffs to elemental attack/def and it doesn't really matter where you put them if your fortress is spamming party shield.
>>154111324
Is this one of those fateful encounters?
Boy meets FOE?
>>154108098
Never got the dragon drops in EOI
Never finished the gear registry in EOII
Never finishedthe actual gamein EOIII
100% EOIV
Haven't done post game in EMD
In EO2U, does Quona appear in story mode? I got to the same place in story as I did in classic and her quest didn't appear.
>>154116776
Quona has like 3-4 quest in Untold 2
>>154117217
Well yeah, I played through her quests in Untold 2 but my question was if having a storymode party keeps her quests from becoming available.
bully quona
Post gunner
>>154120962
dont
>>154120962
Blizzard King pls go and stay go
>>154121154
No.
So is there some in-game reason for that one FOE being an orange moyamoya or is it just because?
>>154129810
to get your nostalgia dick wet
I'm on the third land in EOIV, my party members are all around 32. Honestly my fortress has been pretty shitty here, even normal battles the enemies do >40-50 damage regurlarly. I had dropped my medic for Wufan (who helps dealing with the ice omnihunters withe bindings), but in the dungeon my fortress needs the medic for sure.
>>154133157
The third land's kind of super shitty if you can't mitigate scale damage, but it's perfectly manageable without a Medic. Max out auto-taunt so your protector can just spend most battles defending and spamming Calm Breath, load up on Medica II from the first take point.
>>154134014
He has an arcanist, which has two, arguably three skills that offer chip party-wide healing. He should be able to deal with the chip damage from the scales quite easily.
Restarting EOIV.
Landsnack, Nightseeker, Dancer
Sniper, Medic
Can you guys recommend me some fun, non meme builds for the classes?
>>154136298
bushi
on
everything
>>154136407
dancer/bushi would work for a offensive dancer?
>>154136685
yes
>>154129810
Limited graphics that ended up becoming a hallmark (meme) of the franchise.
>>154136298
L/I, N/S, D/R
S/A, M/L
imo Dancer is better as a sub (ie. R/D, F/D) but not terrible as a main. Benefits of the above picks:
-L can use L skills with Drive blade
-N can use a bow
-D gets... Runes!
-S gets ailment boost
-M gets vanguard. Vanguard Medic is a lot of fun.
A couple of these builds would be better swapped endgame or postgame, but will work fine throughout.
smart bunny
>>154139306
>-L can use L skills with Drive blade
You mean stuff like rapier skills? I kinda wanted a Rapier Landy this time (used a linkshark the previous run).
>N/S
Sounds cool. I think I'll go with it because N/A sounds boring as hell.
>D/R
How would runes help her exactly? I'm curious here, not trying to come off as a dick, by the way. I was planning on using her as some sort of physical attacker for laughs.
>S/A
pretty boring but I want her to be the bind specialist so that's what I'll go with.
>M/L
now this one I'm not really sure on what to do. I love combat medics so I'm thinking of moving her to the front after subclass, give her bushi and spam heavy strike for laughs
>>154139697
I localized that image for the western release, douzo
>>154140027
Drive Blade doubles as a sword, which is not a rapier though. Despite being "2-handed", I'm pretty sure you can still use a shield with one equipped, but you can't use any of the skills that require 2 weapons.
>>154140140
Delete this.
>>154140992
>>154141201
>>154141201
do necromancer
>>154141201
Hello boxart bunny.
I just unlocked subclasses in EOIV. My party is currently is front: land/fort/night back: medic(replacing with arcanist)/runemaster.
I think I'll just rest most of them to put some thought into the skills..
I don't know what to pick for the night, suggestions?
>>154146180
Arcanist effectively gives Nightseekers infinite sustain while exploring, but it'll leave you without any good subclass skills until post-40.
Landsnack lets Swift Edge actually hit things, although you could do that just by paralyzing/blinding. Bushi/Imperial open up obscene damage options.
Sniper lets you follow trace Squall Volley which is always hilarious, but it's really just dookie.
>>154140027
>D/R
Mainly support. You can reduce elem damage or buff elem damage if you decide to say, run links on the land. Never used D offensively, but probably /B would work better.
>M/L
You can do that with M/L too and probably better. Heavy Strike inflicts stun, but you can only inflict stun if you go first. Vanguard makes you go first (or 2nd if your Land is also using it), so it's much easier to stun. Same with star drop; it boosts damage but only for allies who go after you, hence you use vanguard. You also get cool skills like the Break skills for debuffs, or swordbreaker, which stacks with the other Land. And you have giant TP pools so you can use the Land skills pretty much freely. M/B gives you some more power but the B doesn't do a whole lot aside blood surging.
>>154146180
Night sub doesn't really matter until 40. /A gives you ailment boost + TP return. /B gives you blood surge right away. /L or /F gives you some defense, but you'll probably want to reclass it later on. /S gives you a bow for lulz.
Whatever you do, DON'T sub dancer, as it causes a glitch with speed boost / fan dance that nullifies the gains.
>>154146625
he hasn't unlocked imps
>>154141201
>>154140140
I'll be not surprised.
Fuck. I'm having a field day trying to figure out a decent party
composition. You think this team could have good synergy?
Dragoon1/Masurao1
Herbalist1/Warlock2/Warlock1
Made a 2/3 formation for D's Dragon Force when I eventually
get it. I wanna make use of my W's Common Magic down
the line, so I got a second Warlock for Anti-Magic, the
ranged Cut/Stab/Bash skills, support, and Race skills.
>>154139697
>>154140140
>cleavage not colored
What did you even do here?
>>154151434
He lightened up the outlines on her pelvic region
>>154153832
I don't know what are you talking about, but I do want to know.
>>154154798
I think that's Hearthstone.
Loli or tittymancer
>>154155459
Sad. For a second I was expecting a good card game.
>>154155646
Was that even a choice?
>>154155646
baramancer
>>154158975
No more gays
ded
>>154162621
>Only dumb bunnies get in this box
>>154162621
People are absolutely loving this Hound's design, huh? Has there been much art of Granny Hound?
>>154162621
>>154163664
>>154163846
>>154163846
I'm still super disappointed she doesn't get a cool scarf.
Everyone else got a cool scarf. I won't stand for this.
Should I bother picking up EO IV with V around the corner? They haven't given an official date for the US release, right?
>>154164126
>EOV is around the corner
Ha
>>154164126
Not yet, they haven't. It'll give you a good idea of what the difficulty in V's like at least.
>>154140140
>localized
>not-holding a jelly-filled doughnut
Try better next time, anon.
>>154164126
You need to wait until Persona V for more info... maybe...
There is SMT Final too.
>>154164126
You've got like, a year dude. Even then, just don't pick up V until you finish IV.
Translated it weebs
Please.
>>154164656
Sure.WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!?
YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE!
I SHOULD BE THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL!
>>154164656
>(1)
I was going to, but now I won't.Somewhere in this book...is the "Etrian Odyssey 4 Untold"'s heroine's class.
>>154164656
>"I sure am looking forward to those Fafnir dickings after we defeat the calamity."
>>154165145
Thanks anon
>>154167552
Untold 3 please Atlus
Let's be real for one fucking second.
Can you go back to untold 1 after untold 2?
Can you do it at all or am I going to feel like suffering?
Untold 2 is sitting right here, unopened. I don't want to play 3, I don't want to play 4, I don't want to play U1. I want this.
>>154169335
The grimoire system's going to feel like shit going from 2 to 1. That's really about it though.
>>154169335
The grimoire system in the first game is not that annoying after you know what you are doing.
I really have more problems holding all these uselessTake (elemental x2) grimoires than the problems I had in the first game
>>154169335
My big complaint about going back to Untold 1 from Untold 2 is the reclassing option in that one is fucking awful, since it has the same requirement and adjustments as retiring, giving you less room for reclass shenanigans.
Ronin is best gunner, and probably also better Survivalist since ranged weapons are still str based in that game.
EOV when
>>154172960
When they figured out how to localize the content.
>>154172960
>Atlus pls
Wait.
Faf doesn't have a name?
They really want me to Dragon Quest this shit?
Son of a bitch. I hate that. Crono is silent, but he's still Crono, and better for it.
It's probably going to be stupid in the game to call him Faf, isn't it?
>>154173824
Go name him Fart to go with "Farting Knight" then.
>>154173824
ATLUS USA
>>154173932
I'm tempted to do a meme name.
I don't want to do my first name since I doubt it'll make the game any better for me. I really doubt Arianna is going to pull any heart strings and become waifu of the year all years.
>>154173824
many big damage
No more Grimoires
>>154174558
Desperate struggle
EOV will come soon
>>154042489
>tfw no Princess crown
ded
Oh, you guys are miserable. Can't even keep a thread alive.
>>154175501
Tiny Autist.
>>154189416
>still not posting the full version
>>154194481
Cute daughter
Cute bandana.
>>154196560
I want to take off her clothes
>>154197101
Leave the bandana on
>>154196560
missionary
I realize you must be tired hearing this question but would EO4 be a good starting point?
>>154198987
Yes, but it dosen't have best girl.
>>154198987
Sure
>>154198987
yes
>>154198987
Yes.
Be warned, though. If you go back to the original EOs on the DS afterward they will feel aged.
So uh... how 'bout those labarynths, huh?
Rare photo of Quona in the wild.
>>154201029
Terrible.
>>154201207
JUST
>>154201245
>Have to go through all that again to hit up that gathering point.
>>154201207
I'm gonna need a source for that, please.
>>154201493
*unzips picnic mode*
>>154201534
I never turn the difficulty down. NEVER EVER.
>>154202290
How's that even exp treating you?
>>154001027
I really like her
>>154202553
Why is fencer naked?
>>154204182
She's a dodge fencer.
age
>>154162621
>>154163993
Delete this
>>154201510
seconding.
>>154201207
Come on, anon. don't hog all the fap.
Are you happier if you make your party all waifus or do you like it better when you put men in there too and pretend they have their own relationships instead of all of them being YOUR heroines, be you guild leader or whatever.
>>154207032
>he doesn't believe in forbidden love
>>154207032
2/3 always.
>>154207032
2 females of each class. always
Ricky
>>154213851
I Want To Put My Dicky In Ricky
Etrian Odyssey Online free when?
>>154214846
The hell are you talking about?
>>154210104
Alolan Ricky
>>154216117
Shiny Ricky
>>154207032
What about waifus that have their own relationships?
>>154216117
I fucking hate dlc, but I'm really sad that we never had Choco-Ricky DLC for the first Untold
Why didn't they add custom chlothes colors in V?
>>154199060
My wife
>>154207532
This
>>154216989
>no best Gunner in EOV
>mfw I finally beat Storm Emperor in 2U
Jesus, that was a step up from EO3. Now I can get back to playing the game. Are the other two dragons even harder?
>>154222414
Yes
>>154222414MIRROR SHIELD
>>154222784
[shining dragon core noises]
>>154229635
Get away from Shiitake's man, you harlot.
>>154229635
Why did she leave EO?
>>154230461
She's a cute, but I prefer Colette and the teacher. Damn shame.
>>154230606
>the teach
Shit taste
V
ANNOUNCEMENT
WHEN
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>154231751
When you kill yourself and no sooner.
If I'm reading V's opening right,
>humanity is no longer seperated by race i.e black brown white
>now (post apocalyptic) humanity is seperated by race determined by their genetic off shoot into RPG RACES
basically a calamity occurs that sets humanity back into stone ages cutting off humans ability to travel continents they all evolved into different species almost
There are who's narural selection chose those who hunted and passed down the genes of a warrior (africans)
There are the Lunarians who's natural selection favored the worlds intelegence and magic (asians)
Then the brownies who's selection was of the agriculture and favore trade to pass down their genes (middle eastern jews)
And finally the Earthruns who believe it is their rite to claim the earth for themselves (AMERICA PURE HUMAN MASTER RACE)
Am I just reading too much into it?
>>154238275
Yes
>>154238275
Forgot to type therians
>>154238275
Wait how are the bunny/dog ears?!
They just evolved them because they needed them for survival?!
How does that help?
Olympia would win the olympics.
>EOV
>masurao rando 2-4 hit party-wide dosen't hit the same enemy twice
>fencer's chases only focus on one enemy
So first you make one skill random battle exclucive then another is boss exclucive?
Woooooooooow
Good job A-team
>>154239583
>different skills do different things
you're blowing my mind here
>>154239645
I'm saying some are useless in different situations. Until after you realize you spent so much points on that skill
One is for mormal battle and onother is for boss battles.
Also ailments WHY DOSEN'T PARALYZE ALWAYS MAKE THEM SKIP THEIR TURN?
He has an ailment affact the enemy with it, game.
>>154239945
If you weren't an EOP you would have realized that much by reading the fucking skill description
I'm not even going to dignify the latter remark with a response
>dog leaves when you go to town for a little errand
You unloyal piece of shit! tp dossen't grow on trees!
>>154240212
Sorry for not being as good at reading as you senpai sama
I made it to the fourth land. Should I scramble my party? I'm still using mostly all the characters I recruited at the beginning (except for Wufan/Arcanist who replaced the medic).
I don't really understand the retire mechanic, wouldn't be a pain in the ass to get them over 40 again? Also, should I go with bushi instead of land? My current team is L/R, N/A, F/D and back Runemaster (no subclass), Arcanist/Medic.
>>154242264
Retiring lets you make an entirely new character with a couple extra skill points, so you can try something new or get your old shit back but better. Keep in mind you can't retire Wufan and get her sprite back.
Either way, grinding back up is easy if you farm golden Dreameaters, since they respawn daily. If you already have a good link party going, there's not much reason to swap for Bushi. It does make for a stellar subclass for offensive classes though, including Runemaster.
Post your cutest picture
>>154243796
You first.
>>154243796
>>154164248
>>154243796
Does hevier armor affect turn order?
I'm wondering because I want to give my fencer better armor but she needs to be the first one acting at the turn start for chase procs.
>>154244985
Yes, but the chase skill has increased priority so it should act first anyway
I started playing EO3 for the first time. I've read that you should get a team of 5 farmers for harvesting points. I assume I need to grind then a little to get to the point of being able to survive? And at what point should I make this team of Farmers?
>>154246725
>I assume I need to grind then a little to get to the point of being able to survive?
nah, just gather 1F over and over for cash
>>154246725
>he dosen't have a combat farmer
>>154246725
I usually just give mine three points in combat studies then play normally until money starts being an issue.
>mfw all this food in the labyrinth
Fug. Might not need a healer for these first few floors.
>>154243796
>>154238275
No, that's not right at all.
>>154252707
My headcanon > your headcanon
>>154255458
There are no head cannons here. That's just all wrong.
'allo! What'cha buyin'?
>>154255528
Prove it.
>>154256909
I don't want to spoil what little plot there is.
>>154256998
We already know about the Ayy lmao Kupala anyway
>>154256998
Is there a twist?
>>154259291
The secret class isYou!
>>154259419
>>154259419
>>154259419
fuck off with your shitty isekai dlc
>>154256447
>shill in her name
what did atlus mean by this
>>154262785
Dumb glady.
>>154259291
There sort of is in a sense, but it's not executed very well.
Ded
>>154239252
She would destroy the opposition.
How much bonus damage do Elemental Circles give? Would a Circle + Faf's Elemental Wave do more damage than Wave + Link Order?
>>154272848
Stop bumping this thread.
>>154272995
But where else can these perverts stay in if this thread is gone?
Heil Himukai!
>>154281248
The best
>>154038714
If it ever comes out? Sure.
>>154284876
It will, eventually
>>154289407
delet this
What class from 4 is gonna be in U3?
What's the hero class going to be like?
If there were axes in 3 I would have said he'd be some kind of pirate/berserker thing.
But fuck it. Make a new weapon and make him use cannons.
Fuck this mission from the count. I'll do it when I can easily kill those foes.
>>154293006
Test of Picnic
actually, this is a lot of fun
>>154301017
sauce for the original image?
>>154301017
Cute!
>>154301493
if that is actually true, you did a really good job
What weapons should be wielding my Nightseeker? Should I forge status effects in them or I'm better off with just higher attack weapons even if they have no slots?
>>154302580
ATK.
>>154302891
If they have slots, what should I forge, luck maybe?
>>154302580
Luk or Atk forges, since you're mostly relying on your throw skills.
Alternatively, Death/Petrify/Splash if you're a madman. Works better with A/N.
>>154305835
>>154308373
>>154308497
just let it die
>>154310142
Never
R - I - C - K - Y
The sound of her name makes the little kids cry
Etrian Odyssey
>>154315074
>when you are trying to get a Level 10 Stigmata grimoire with bind up2 but you get the wrong bind up skill instead
I have plenty of 8-9, but I need a 10 for my Hexer.
Damn
>>154310982
You're a fucking child.
Is the EOV cover team (Fencer, Masurao, Dragoon, Warlock, Herbalist) any good?
From what I can tell, if you need a bind, you're SOL.
>>154327381
You never really NEED a bind. In any game.
>>154327381
You'd have still have ailments, so it really won't be a big deal.
>>154265118
>>154265118
I need more of best Alchemist.
>it was aliens again
I just finished playing Untold 3, didn't I
>>154327475
Sure. You only ever need some way to deal enough damage to kill the enemies dead.
But a properly placed bind certainly makes things easier on your party every now and then.
>>154238275
So fucking potatoes isn't considered interspecies cross-breeding? Nice
Neat, ghost time.
>>154335017
No, it's just degeneracy.
>>154335017
I want to deflower her
>>154342038
Etrian Odyssey Potato
Teach is best, subhumans.
ded
how bad is it if i like the eou2 skill system over the eo4 one?
i like the fact that pumping masteries gives access to skills (atleast 1 point) when i get them
>>154350720
EOIV system is shit and I believe some people said they went with the same system for EO V.
Fuck
>>154351228
They did, but you get access to the entire branch at 20and after the second stratumnow. So it's not as annoying.
>>154351472
how is that better
its worse isnt it
eo4 gave you skills at 20 but you could get it at the second stratum with sheep kills
is it safe to rejoin this thread or are people still dropping spoilers left and right?
>>154352312
Because it gives you all the skills once you reach the 3rd stratum. Compare to how you unlock subclassing in 3 and 4. It's also near the point where you first access retiring, so you can just reallocate points like that.
IV had that additional skill gate at 40, so you ended up spending the better half of your 3x levels saving up for that.
>>154353631
The game actually takes place in post-apocalyptic Tokyo
>>154353631
Why do you care about spoilers in this kind of game?
>>154353731
>saving up instead of resting
>>154353948
whatever
>>154353731
ugh
i dont like the concept of a level gate
does that mean that even if you exceed 20 you cannot access those skills before the 3rd stratum
thats shit too
>>154353948
Levels are expensive, and there aren't many really good skills for most classes in the first two tiers anyway.
>>154353948
>reach 40
>rest
>no longer at 40
nah
>>154354117
42, bud
>>154354027
I'd imagine that it's really just a formality, or for when you're training up new duders. Just go with "unlocks at 3rd stratum".
many of the veteran tier skills are good, actually
>>154353948
>reach 40
>rest
>no longer at 40
or
>don't waste points on shitty skills
>reach 40
>use the skills you actually wanted to use since the beginning
>win
>>154354186
But you see, you can usually get to 40 nearing the end of Golden Lair, while 42's more a couple steps into the 4th land. Ain't going to pull off that no-scale Boiling Lizard like that.
>>154354392
>you can usually get to 40 nearing the end of Golden Lair
Grinding that much is not healthy.
>>154354483
But you get to face the Lizard around level 40.
>>154354483
What, you don't go on a full scale FOE genocide before finishing off a stratum?
>>154353631
Your party dies
>>154354578
If you grind your ass off, sure. If you don't, you'll be early-mid 30s.
>>154354657
Did you just skip all the bar quests and caves or what
>>154354657
You don't need to grind to reach that far. Just do all the quests and explore all like usual.
I guess you just run away from every encounter to be so underleveled
How much do you think the first EO costed to make?
>>154355839
I'm not even sure what any games cost to make, but maybe $200,000-$400,000?
>>154355990
Well, Ubisoft said their DS titles cost $500,000 to $1,000,000.
I would have thought more because 500k is like 10 people for 1 year. But I suppose you can't look at that alone. Atlus existed before Etrian Odyssey, they have the people, the resources, the place to do it all already.
So there you go. Probably less than a million. Half that. It's a simple game, really.
Hey little girl!
Come on forward to my coffin... I have Hard Candies!!!
>>154359678
Wrong medic.
That one likes dank herb.
Have the targeting rules changed in EOV?
It is still the front row that is attacked most often, but which character is attacked doesn't seem to depend on which character has the highest HP.
https://youtu.be/tMB1lkw7KYA?t=10s
It took me about a day but I finally realized why I find this theme so familiar.Baccano OP
Good night thread
>>154361385
It's never night.
>>154354090
>and there aren't many really good skills for most classes in the first two tiers
Oh come on, most classes have fuck all at the third tier.
>>154354294
>don't waste points on shitty skills
>be unable to do shit until you reach 40
>>154315074
https://exhentai.org/g/974867/4b4e580122/
oh my
>tfw no bunny gf that comes to you for comfort after people call her dumb
>>154381086
>tfw no dumb bunny gf that rides your cock until it breaks
>>154381086
>>154381350
>bunny gf
bunnies shit all day and all night
>>154381501
>>154382051
But not everyone eats their own poop
Chloe is amazing
>>154386042
WILDINGED
That dosen't seem like it would be a very good subclass
>>154386042
My wife
>>154386285
I'd imagine you take it for Primal Drums. Zodiac doesn't really have much else to do unless you grind out strength books.
>>154354769
>>154354838
Kibagami's at like 35 so they expect you to be around that level at the end of the 3rd Stratum. 40 means that you did some sort of grinding or something.
>>154391123
I mean, if you're going to keep insisting that I did, I won't stop you.Kibagami joins at 37 though, but that's still not exactly relevant.
Etrian Odyssey's world is fucking terrifying, a fuckton of adventurers die in the labyrinths in brutal ways. It'd actually be easier irl, since monsters wouldn't be able to damage sponge you, so it's just hit first and you win.
>>154395042
Those groups deserve it for not bringing Nectar or having their medic learn Revive.
Does anyone have the EOV music rip link?
kaishaku
Did we ever get the EOV FM tracks?
>>154413828
Yes
>>154413920
Is there a link, I'm not seeing anything in the pastebin.
>search /eog/
>Get Eve Online General
Ugh.
Anywhoo, I've been playing EO4 on and off again since I got the special edition in 2014 or whenever it came out. The more I play it, the more I get into it, but I subclassed my Doctor into Runemaster several months ago which brings me to my question
Runemaster's TP UP skill has 3 points invested. Doctor's TP UP skill has 1 point invested. Do these stack or is past me an idiot?
>>154354392
>>154354483
>>154354657
>Beating the Boiling Lizard in the mid-30s
...I'm level 43 and getting mastered every time I attempt it. My damage just isn't there and I don't know what I'm doing
>>154416217
Have you broken all the heat spikes and learned to abuse Kibagami's roar?
>>154416217
You've destroyed the scales before engaging it, right?
And do you have a Runemaster? If so, use Ice Rune, the buff/debuff skill to neutralize his Flame Scales in battle all at once.
Once it tries to regenerate have Kibagami Roar and get rid of the buff. Any other time you should have Flame Rune up to mitigate damage from it's other attacks.
>>154416460
>>154416602
I'm also the guy asking about TP UP stacking. Would you gents mind enlightening me? (>>154414759)
>>154416794
Yes, but it's really just a waste of points this early on.
>>154416217
You know you canuse the ice stakes to break the scales in battle, right?
best princess
>tfw just finished EOV
Talk about going out with a whimper
>>154422809
Untold will fix it
>>154422107
>seen barefoot
What a disgrace
>>154427036
My tsundere wife
>>154427031
>>154207532
Exactly. You need both waifus and male camaraderie for a proper adventure.
>yggdroid bot damage scales with tec
>yggdroid tec blows baja blast
GETTIN REAL MAD
Speaking of zodiacs.
What about 2ZODIAC in EO3?
Can I make a decent elemental party with that, a princess, hoplite, and arbalist?
>>154433939
lmao2zodiac really only shines inRTA, but it's still serviceable.
if you're feeling spicy, sub arbalist into zodac for singularity and return, sub another thing into princess, and shit out turn 1 regal radiance nukes every battle. shit's great.
Found my old EO save the other day, damn I came close to 100% that game. Thought about trying to finish it up, but I had rested like 4 of my members and fuck all that grinding. Especially when it's all shitty 5% drops from gay dragons and shit that I need. Fuuuuuuuuck that.
Now I'm playing EO2 again. I miss having actual skill trees and shit in the game, the 3ds titles ruined me.
>>154432265
wouldn't it be funny if she got gangbanged by those mice haha
Pomf=3
What are we going to do with the weed oni-chan?
>>154435142
>>154432432
>Can't subclass
EO3U pls
Cyborg girls chucking their own limbs. Just like monsoon but cute
>>154435142
WOULDN't it be funny if you fucked off?!
>>154435632
EO spinoff made by Platinum when? They make licensed games for any franchise now.
>>154436145
It's got a 50% chance of being kusoge though
>>154436319
50% is a damn good probability in EO terms though.
Get it?
Ailments.
>>154414190
Ask again later, or check maybe 2-4 threads ago
>>154414190
>>154437252
https://mega.nz/#!rMUnia4b!ZErzGTn09UvLvaH4UNBP_YrB1IM_1LBUFXnUj46Opvw
>>154433939
I usually use an alchemist, zodiac or runemaster for one element in the same team.
Better yet if you give them latin names based on their respective element
>>154437467
You're a saint.
>>154435026
>Now I'm playing EO2 again. I miss having actual skill trees and shit in the game, the 3ds titles ruined me.
But we did had skill trees in EO1-2. A messed up one, but they were skill trees. Right?
>>154438425
I believe it's more how the trees were represented, visually.
Can someone just mod EO so I can have 10 party memebers, half damage, and double monsters?
I hate fucking deciding what party to use. Why cant I just bind, ail, chase, multi-hit, and element enemies to death?
>boot up EO3 cart
>all the shortcuts are labeled as doors
My dad works at Etria and he says they're announcing EO3U at TGS.
>>154442326
The first step to recovery is admitting you were wrong.
One of the NPC partners in Shiren 5 has intentionally awful AI that makes him run off to fight enemies as you're leaving a room and generally get himself killed. One of the post game quests is to baby him to the end of the main dungeon. They didn't know that I've already played EMD
>>154445374
This is a flat chests only zone.
>>154445564
What did he mean by this?
>Over 100 unique IPs for an Etrian Odyssey thread
I was under the impression this game series was in kind of the same place Fire Emblem was around when Awakening was being made, constantly on the verge of needing That One Game that brings in all the new people (which I guess happened with Etrian Odyssey Untold)
Regardless, I still feel like there's one tiny something holding EO back from having that big burst of popularity, but no clue what that could be
>>154446410
untold? lol
>>154446410
Head patting simulator.
>>154446410
Social links.
>>154446410
You can't even see your dudes fighting!
>>154446410
>what EO needs to be popular
Multiplayer.
PvP
>>154442326
I wonder how I would've mapped later games if I was as limited in icons as EOI. Having to do mental gymnastics to note everything was hell, fun but hell.
>Claret hollows had multiple floors where you could hit the icon limit if you tried to use icons appropriately
Thank Mediko for walls being unlimited.
>>154447183
http://www.nintendoblast.com.br/2013/12/analise-etrian-odyssey-iv.html?m=1
>Cons:
>it's 2013 and it doesn't have an online multiplayer mode
>>154445374
>love reaper designs
>they're shit
>>154447949
>no online seaquests to kaishaku all your friends
>>154447998
So run with them anyway.
The game is meant to be beat with a cookie cutter party, the fun starts when you see what you can get away with.
Like that one asshole who conquered the world in Europa Universalis as Ryukyu.
If you don't know, it's a poor, one province island nation in Japan. That means your troops might die before you can even get across the seas. Anyone can declare war on you for no reason because you're backwards heathens. You're in the 2nd worst tech group in the game and you have no claims on any land at the start.
It's so fucked that you have to find ways of using bankruptcy to your advantage.
And now you can beat it with any nation well before the time limit is up (400+ years).
ded
EOVU when?
>>154429615
Waifus and female camaraderie.
>>154436319
TMNT and... what was the other kusoge?I'm not gonna give Star Fox Zero that grade
>>154447949
>7.8/10
>too much flying
>>154456221
They're making a Granblue game, it's doomed to be shit.
Nectar bump
>making my own dungeoncrawler where every enemy is an FOE
>fighting multiple FOEs from different directions at the same time is easier to do than I imagined
It's fun how my own prototype amazes me to no end.
Someone please spoonfeed me the 7th Dragon III soundtrack
>>154465264
youtube (dot) com
>>154446410
More Ricky
>>154465264
sonixgvn
So, how do you guys sort your EO folder?
By game, by character?
>>154473501
One big mess.
>>154473501
By game. There are filenames for each portrait and which game they come from too.
>>154473501
>by character
I've already learned the hard way to never do this.
>>154473501
By game and by character in the game folder.
I only have problems with (pic related) because I can't categorize them.
>>154474270
>I've already learned the hard way to never do this.
But why?
>>154474361
Easy, from left to right:
Teach, Twintail Fortress, Frederica, Ponytail Princess, and Blonde Gunner
>>154474361
Just make a single separate folder for multiple characters/multiple games
age
Canada is best
Is there an efficient way to level grind in EO1? All I can think of is either walking back and fourth in the big hallway in F25 or having treefrogs respawning in F11
What's the general feeling towards 7th dragon VFD? Playing it right now having only 3 party members is weird
>>154490294
More like 7 frames a second
>>154490294
It's pretty good.
But yeah, setting up proper synergy with only three characters is somewhat awkward.
>Playing EO2U for the first time
>Play through the first stratum in story and classic to see which I like more
>You get to protect Beowulf's smile in story
>They die in classic
What the fuck, man ;_;
>>154495321
>Untold postgames are always noncanon and pasted from classic
Wealh's a fucking goner.
>>154496856
But Untold did have scenes and lines for story mode.
Did anyone actually use the other female ninja sprite
Is Kaishaku a pain in the ass to work with, or is it worth the trouble?
>>154500993
It depends, on the one hand you can finish off certain bosses a lot quicker by taking out that last 15% HP with one, and it's also good for nabbing certain conditionals when used with a weapon/imbue damage type the foe is normally resistant to. But it also makes Endure/Indomitable useless aside from feeding Bloody Lance kills to the Kaishakunin to boost its attack power, and can make getting through some difficult battles with everyone in one piece kind of tricky.
>>154501487
>video is unavailiable
>>154500584
I kinda preferred fivehead. She's cooler.
Post best shopkeep
>>154501716
Basically easier battles become easier, harder battles become harder
and risk = reward
>>154502698
k
Is there a rip of 2U's portraits that includes the DLC ones?
ded
>>154509730
fang is cute
Stop die
>>154511575
Yes
>>154511575
Very cute.
>>154518345
cutest medic
>>154501487
>>154501984
I, too, am curious about what that video is supposed to be
>>154519739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7PTX3gmHcU
Will Hardin ever tell us when Atlus is going to localise EOV?
release date?
Say EOU3 is coming out.
Will buccaneers be better if they take the chase, get rid of them and instead have:
Chase front
Chase back
Is Gutrune a loli?
>this a japanese depiction of lovcraftian mythos
>>154525785
Too old.
>finally beat the treasures untold dlc
>didn't manage to log skolls in the compendium
god fucking damnit
>>154525785
Lolita fashion, but not a loli
>>154501487
Canada is best girl, eh!
>>154530601
>finally beat the treasures untold dlc
>no king grimoires as a reward
>>154532838
you can always QR them into the game
Does anyone have a cia of the update for EOV?
>>154501487
Can I really, actually, just not fucking draw walls?
I hate swinging left and right, pressing a, and then drawing a wall every square. It makes each square take like 5 seconds. That's a fuckload of time when the game could just give me the map. Or have some sort of buy map function. It would make money mean more at least.
But yeah. Can I just not draw walls... please.
>>154539192
No. Git gud or git gone.
>>154539192
I take back the just give me map function. But you should be able to buy parts of maps from fellow explorers.
How about this? Can I walk everywhere and then draw the walls in the end? Does anybody use that strategy? I can just annotate areas that are forks in the road with no text so I know to go back there.
>>154539192
>5 seconds
>a lot of time
Get the fuck out of here
>>154539505
X thousands of squares.
>>154539458
I usually explore a small area, then draw the walls afterwards or do it when a battle triggers.
>>154539192
Unless I'm trying to map out a FOE room, I just leave walling until I get all the branches out. Do it all at once, save time.
>>154539561
The game isn't meant to be fast, filthy casual.
>>154071938
Arianna is cute.
The whole EO2U story team were pretty dang good.
It was a better story than SMT4's.
Why is gunner the best class?
>>154114753
I laughed.
>>154539192
Drawing walls is a meme. Nobody actually draws them.
>>154540485
>>154490294
It's diet Etrian. Skill combos and synergies as good as Etrian but easy and not quite Etrian level good.
It's definitely up there with TMS#FE and EO2U as the year's best RPGs.
>>154445057
I'm more buttmad at EMD's final dungeon than any of the AI babying bullshit but boy howdy that's a close second.
>>154540334
Because she's cuteunlike Dicky
>>154201245
>random moving FOEs that cannot be genocided
no thanks Atlus.
>>154540820Millenom girl needs to be thrown into another millenom
Son of a bitch.
Why would I use a hoplite over a princess when line guard defends 50% for 1 turn when guard order defends 45% for 3 turns?
>>154541185
Because you're dumb anon.
>>154541185
Because those two effects stack, and Princesses have a shitload of other buffs they'd rather be using.
>>154541185
Because one is a buff
>>154541185
>not using both
Retard alert
For real though.
I keep changing my mind on my EO3 party and if I can do without a hoplite I'd be glad.
The princess would get rid of the hoplite and monk so I would have:
Gladiator/Princess/Buccaneer
Zodiac/Arbalist (moving to front later)
I was already disappointed that I had to give up my chase dreams once I found out that bucc chases are trash. Then it hurt me to ditch the princess for a monk.
>>154541613
>doing without a tank class in any EO other than 4
lol shitter
>>154541669
The fuck does it matter?
They can't properly defend the paper back row anyway?
I know enemies "prioritize" your high HP members, but glad and prince have higher HP, right?
>>154541613
Bucc chases aren't trash per-say, it's just that Shogun has a disgustingly overpowered one.
Princess/Monk's fine, you really don't need all that healing. Going without a Hoplite means you can't do any fun Berserker's Vow shit and railroads you into dumping massive points for Zodiac prophecies, but it can work. Maybe.
>>154541809
>what is bunshin
Hoplites are easily the strongest protector class in the series.
>>154540696
>up there with TMS#FE
Since when is that a good game?
>>154541185
>They stack
>Guard Order takes up a buff slot
>Guard Order might not activate before the enemy attacks
>>154541669
I've been doing pretty decent with a Gladiator, Prince, Zodiac, Wildling, and Arbalist.
>>154541669
You don't need a tank in EO2.
>>154541669
The only thing I ever needed a Hoplite sub in EOIII for was Volt wall, I had a Freezing Blow Zodiac for Ice Prophecy and a Dark Ether Ninja for Fire Prophecy but neither had skill points to spare for the last element so I had to stick it on my Front Mortar Arbalist of all things.
And in the other games all you really need Protector for is dealing with the Elemental breaths(and Primeval's bullshit in EOI), though it might still be possible to survive those with Defend + Accessory + buffs. You can incapacitate everything in II with ailments/binds easily, and accessory stacking in III does more to mitigate damage than anything short of elemental walls/prophecies.
>>154541837
Alright.
Alright...
I'll give it one last think over. Before I bought the game legally I played it on the NDS emulator and got to level 20+ without a monk in favor of a princess. I know that's not far. But I had G/H/P Z/A.
So I was at my wit's end trying to do something not cookie cutter with this run.
I don't hate the hoplite but having never gotten very far in these games I'm just looking for wild synergy parties that I can feel the effects of often. In my perfect world I would do B/B/A P/M
http://oba-q-honpo.net/qt/sqev/?198d
What the hell is this weebs?
>>154543084
Etrian Odyssey 8, dipshit.
6 and 7 fucking suck.
>>154543084
My new masturbation material senpai.
brown etrians are the best
So, I'v beaten the story boss in 2 Untold.
How do I level up to 999?
>>154543284
I want tofug herif you catch my drift.
>>154542909
I think the most effective combination out of all the class/subclass combinations I've tried to make use of would be something like Shogun/Ninja(focus on Instant Kills/Bloody Lance to make quick work of mobs), Arbalist/Gladiator(HEAVY damage from charged attacks), Princess/Farmer(good all around support), Zodiac/Gladiator(Charged Meteors are among the best damage without skill books) and either a TP battery or Bunshin Hoplite(the Shogun won't be using Bunshin much if at all). Replace the Shogun if you want the other of these two as you'll still have Arbalist for crowd control and Kaishaku is the only reliable instant kill on bosses aside from RNG manipulation with Wildling Tigers.
>>154543363
meant for >>154543264
>>154543510
No it wasn't. Millenom girl is terrible girl.
>>154542071
When you aren't a faggot and can enjoy a good RPG.
>>154543348
Have to keep doing quests until you can beat the dragons. Those raise the level cap.
If you have all the free DLC, there are enough post-game bosses to get you to 99 easily. If not, turn to Picnic and grind.
>>154543846
In that case you might want to come out of the closet.
>>154543948
>>154543930
Should I explore the sixth stratum or do the quests first? I'm assuming I get better gear from the third stratum, but it also would be a waste to go through it without earning any exp.
Also how do I make money? The new gear starts to cost 100k+ per piece, and max I had throughout the entirety of my playthrough is around 150k.
>>154544146
The bar ought to be your main source of income by now, but I think selling gather materials of sixth stratum is huge.
I don't think you get a dragon quest until floor 27 or so but you do want to knock out every quest you can. The dragons tend to be the result of quest lines involving townsfolk and you need to clean those all up before the game coughs them up.
Are you ALREADY at the cap?
>>154544285
I'm at 70, if that's what you mean.
>>154544354
Someone better at the game than me will need to tell you which quests you can skip then to avoid 0xp payouts.
>>154544447
Nobody in this general except us two talks about the actual game. They've been nothing but 700+ posts of waifu shitposting and ERP.
>>154544662
Like it or not, (((GameFAQs))) has some really high level EO2U players out there, the sorts of people who test different party strategies for fun to see how quick they can reach the damage cap. They might be able to offer better advice.
>>154543846
I fulfill both criteria, but it's still not good.
The story is a dumpster fire, and the combat is nothing to write home about.
>>154544836
>GameFAQs
I thought this was the place for people who got banned from there. Or is this meme not relevant anymore?
>>154545101
That's still true.
>>154545094
>The story is a dumpster fire
>saying this in an EO thread
you failed the first criteria
>the combat is nothing to write home about.
It's no EO, and not quite 7th Dragon, but it's still solid. The boss fights are some of the best in the genre aside from EO (Which isn't saying much, to be honest.).
Let's try a different question, what recent non-EO, non-7th Dragon RPG is better?
>>154546489
Not him but SMTIVA
>>154519862
Not what I expected.
>>154546701
After how shit SMT4 was? I'll believe it when I see it.
>>154547005
Check Atlus's twitch.
>>154547207
Everything I would need to learn to convince me 4A isn't as trash as 4 was can only be learned from playing it and learning and completing the game itself. (You know, unless the twitch says "We wrote a story that isn't worse than TMS#FE and EO1U this time and combat isn't a slot machine any more!")
I'm aware both of those are reportedly improved but there's a lot of room to improve and I don't trust most SMT fans to know their ass from a hole in the ground... at least the ones on /vg/....
I'll try it when it comes out.
>>154546489
EO is a First Person Dungeon Crawler. That does not require a good story. In fact, with a party comprised solely of character completely of your own design, a good story is all but impossible.
TMS#FE is an RPG in the vein of Persona, with very clearly defined characters, something that lives and dies with its story.
And its story is hot garbage, even before localization messed it up even further. Every problem, every character moment is resolved within 10 minutes of its introduction. There is zero room for any sort of attachment and you can't even call it pandering, because both of the game's source franchises are barely recognizable in it.
And it's not enough for an RPG to have "solid" combat, if combat is its only selling point. If a game has only one selling point, it better be at least good.
Kowashit please go, and stay go.
>>154547542
>In fact, with a party comprised solely of character completely of your own design, a good story is all but impossible.
Negative. EO4 managed a good story.
>TMS#FE is an RPG in the vein of Persona, with very clearly defined characters, something that lives and dies with its story.
This is nonsense. Saying an RPG lives and dies with story is tacitly admitting RPGs are a genre that have shit gameplay.*
Persona is 90% time management social game. The RPG gameplay is a minigame, at best. TMS#FE has next to nothing in common with Persona.
TMS#FE's plot is better than SMT4's by a country mile and the only reason SMT isn't recognizable in TMS is because TMS has actual dungeons and actual bosses and the combat is less decided by slot machine random chance than SMT.
*Actually that's 100% true lol. RPGs are a shit genre outside of EO.
>>154547890
>RPGs are a shit genre outside of EO
Yes.
Yes, exactly.
Most JRPGs are unfortunately little more than a vehicle for the story the writers come up with. Combat is just a slog that serves to extend game length.
That is exactly why EO and 7th Dragon are such a wonderful breath of fresh air.
>TMS#FE has next to nothing in common with Persona
Character-driven story and drama out the wazoo. External threats are mostly a backdrop until shit gets real near the climax.
>TMS#FE's plot is better than SMT4's by a country mile
No, it's definitely the other way around.
Let's have a look at Tsubasa's story up to chapter 2, because the actual main character has no real connection to the plot.
>wants to become an idol to find her sister
>runs into mirages
>becomes idol
>has crisis of faith after one day of training
>immediately finds resolve to continue training
>has second crisis of faith shortly afterward
>watches concert
>crisis resolved
>finds sister
>rescues sister
>no longer has any stakes in the plot and is demoted from protagonist to pair of titties
>chapter 2 boss throws her out of the dungeon because she is bad at being a pair of titties
>looks at her boss's gravure photobook
>suddenly becomes great at being a pair of titties
SMT4, by contrast, has actual characters, actual decisions to make and conflicts that aren't resolved before you even get a chance to care about them.
>TMS has actual dungeons and actual bosses and the combat is less decided by slot machine random chance than SMT
Yeah, this sounds like you've never played an SMT title, or at the very least you're really bad at it. SMT only seems unfair if you don't know how to build your party to suit the area you're in.
>>154547542
>In fact, with a party comprised solely of character completely of your own design, a good story is all but impossible
It is harder, but impossible? Not by a long shot. Of course, it means that it's even harder to make a story where your player is the super speshul snowflake, but that works in the story's favor.
EO3 and EO4 has the right idea, with the player being who triggers the events but with NPCs being the main actors of it, the ones holding special positions by birth.
Now all that we need is to make the party compelling. For now, that's completely up to the player. However, the VN format with its choices is already there, so now all that is needed is to make those choices matter and affect how the world and NPCs react to you.
>>154549206
7th Dragon's combat would be interesting if you couldn't finish most encounters in less than 5 turns all game.
>>154551861
You mean like in EO where you can finish most encounters in less than 5 turns all game?
>>154552181
How are you supposed to feel something from a game's combat system when the major bosses all go down like chumps without even resorting to grinding?
Even EO4 which this general likes to complain about for being too easy has more of a bite than the 7th dragon games.
>>154552357
The same way you feel something from EO's combat system, since the major bosses all go down like chumps without even resorting to grinding.
>>154545094
The battle system is good but it gets tedious by the end of the game because you can't skip animations and combos get too fucking long when you have all the characters. Overall I would say it's the best 3D Atlus RPG, since the dungeons are actually interesting and have some gimmicks instead of being mostly hallways like the PS2 MegaTen games and battles aren't as unfair for the enemies since you can't have a party without weaknesses and make enemies lose turns.
>>154552946
Do you have a proper retort or are you just going to say its just like EO?
>>154553013
Give me a valid complaint and I'll give you a proper retort.
Combat in both games is a puzzle. Once you figure out the solution to a puzzle, exectuing it is easy.
Just because you personally have a harder time wrapping your head around EO's puzzles, doesn't mean 7th Dragon is easier.
>>154553373
A proper chase team in say EO4 requires you to get up to the endgame before you can fully take advantage of everything that such a party would require, so there's a sense of progression where you can see your team gradually improve.
Compare this to a X-Burn team in VFD where they hand you all of the tools you need by the first skill set expansion so for the rest of the game, you don't get any extra toys to play with for such as team.
There's no puzzle if they basically hand you all of the answers almost immediately.
>>154553908
Because X-Burn works reliably all the time, right.
No, you get and you need new toys even after the first expansion.
Wilfully ignoring progression for the sake of your argument does not make it vanish.
Stop bumping this thread.
If both my frontliners have Swordbreaker in EO4, does it stack?
>>154555049
I used X-Burn because its the closest comparison to a chase team in EO. Not to mention that its far more reliable than the Duelist's other option Judgment. Since all you need is Search Fire and some fire skills.
If you wanted to talk about something that wins against pretty much everything then there's the Earthquake team or the pick whatever and have 6x Rune Knights with Brave Blade in the back to exploit the Unison Attack mechanic.
>>154555324
Well, it's not like you can't break EO's system either.
And I'll have to concede that the Unison Attack system is kinda dumb.
>>154542872
GOOD
WORST GIRL DESERVES IT
>>154556804
>>154557297
She's not even engaging. Not even being drunk or Canadian helps.
Ricky
Dicky
Icky
LE
>>154556804
>worst girl deserves to kill Canada
Why?
>>154553373
the "solution" to every fight in 7th dragon is the same
>>154560340
Raccoon is worse girl
>>154560585
Racoon isn't even the worst girl in Untold.
this is best girl
>Drops nectar
Whoops
>>154565204
>>154565930
>>154562757
Who is that?
>>154566062
Cutest princess.
>>154567505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNM5mFQ9siI
>>154568021
Her song was catchy, but I don't remember her visually.
EOV OST WHEN
>>154569375
It's on youtube.
age
I just started Etrian Odyssey 2 and spent a brief amount of time looking over the classes
Here are the two big things that stuck out to me.
>Medic no longer has Immunize
>Protector actually seems really good now
I like these changes, I can tell this game is going to be interesting to play and a totally different gameplay experience from the first game.
Should I invest in Mastery skills in EOV?
>>154574818
It's different insofar that the balance is at its lowest. Everything you liked is shit, everything else has been buffed to disgusting degrees.
Medics only act after your entire party's dead, Protectors are only good for Force, Troubadours will just get you killed, Landsnacks are outclassed. Beasts are very poorly implemented.
le millenom girl
ded
>>154586015
we already hit image bump limit, might as well kill it.
New thread
>>154588347
>>154574818
It's mostly different insofar that ailments and binds are super powerful options now thanks in part to early Hexer, War Magus capitalizing on ailments, and Force skills guaranteeing an ailment from hexer and a triple bind from Dark Hunter. If you're playing the original EOII, Corrupt Curse is flat out broken, especially in conjunction with WM's Curse Cut for TP battery purposes.
And on top that, since Ronin no longer needs to be in stance to use its skills it's free to spam Midareba with reckless abandon, has single and mult-target element attacks for teams that need them, and learns its beheading skill with only 1 point in Iaijustsu.
>>154591242
There really isn't a point in bumping, seeing as how it's about to hit the bump limit.
>>154592114
Considering someone went with a shitposting thread, then yes, there is a point
>>154549206
>SMT4, by contrast, has actual characters, actual decisions to make and conflicts that aren't resolved before you even get a chance to care about them.
SMT4's world design and plot are both fundamentally broken. And it sure as shit doesn't have actual characters. The two that matter are cartoonish caricatures built around this game's version of law and chaos. They have no meaningful growth beyond that and every choice they force is an incredibly corny and unbelievable wedge. The plot can't decide whether demons are metaphors, their own characters, or an actual existential threat.
The story is even more cartoonish and less thematically coherent than TMS#FE. The fact that one is colorful and the other is brown and grim doesn't change that.
>Yeah, this sounds like you've never played an SMT title, or at the very least you're really bad at it. SMT only seems unfair if you don't know how to build your party to suit the area you're in.
You're in an EO thread and accusing someone who plays EO of not understanding another RPG's combat system. Fuck off with that /v/-tier dismissal shit.
>>154592114
14 posts isn't that bad come on guys get your shit together
>some shitposter makes a new thread early to use his own tag AND posts Teach in the OP
Is this really what happens when I stop paying attention to you guys holy fuck
>>154604190
>this is what happens when you reach image limit early so the Rickyposters can't do their job by making the thread survive until bump limit
>>154605526
image limit is always a terrible thing to reach early. It can't be helped.