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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, September 6th:
1522 – The Victoria, the only surviving ship of Ferdinand Magellan's expedition, returns to Sanlúcar de Barrameda in Spain, becoming the first ship to circumnavigate the world.
1901 – Leon Czolgosz, an unemployed anarchist, shoots and fatally wounds US President William McKinley at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo, New York.
1939 – World War II: South Africa declares war on Nazi Germany.
1949 – Allied military authorities relinquish control of former Nazi Germany assets back to German control.
>News
EU4 Rights of Man DLC announced

EU4 DD18/08
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-18th-of-august-2016.963425/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!IkNwBRKR!WI_JYByFpRFzXLx3d1uD2A

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.5 - 29/07/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V8
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>153921819
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Waiting to play CK2 until CK2+ is done is killing me.
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black ice is good mod fuck off haters
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>>153989384
Play hip
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>>153989393
I wouldn't know. All I've ever heard was shitposting about it.

>>153989429
This. At least in the meantime.
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>>153989393
Is people hating on BICE? Why?
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>>153989562
'Tis tradition
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>153989562
Actually some people don't like BICE because they think it's too railroaded.
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at what point in time in eu4 do you stop building buildings and start just aggressive expansioning into your neighbors?
1700?
1650?
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>>153989562
Just memes there is no reason to actually shit on it unless you are bad at the game
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>>153989707
And why don't they just play any other mod or vanilla?
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>>153989782
Because people like to bitch about shit.
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>>Alternate Mod List and Useful Resources

>[V2] - Make Liquor Great Again for HPM 0.3.5.5 by Liquorlad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42kc4rjg24rtiv/makeliquorgreatagain.rar?dl=0

>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01 by Cobra
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] unHPM v2.0 - Farawell Edition by unHPM guy
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years Mod by GF420
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

>>[V2] - Vickymod v2.5 by Rob
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - New Liangmod by Liang
http://www.mediafire.com/download/fm7kgwo9m83yqxu/New+Liang.rar

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB
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>>153989725
As soon as I'm stronger than all of them or will become stronger by doing so.

Not to say I play much EUIV these days anyhow.
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>>153989725
desu I've never been able to play EU4 for more than 100 years
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>>153988347
which country are you? Depending on your tech you'll want a max percentage of cavalry in your stacks. I think it's generally around 60% for western countries, but muslim is like 80%, so they have an advantage there. Generally Shock is for damaging enemy morale, and morale is what's really important in fights. Fire is usually done by infantry while Shock is done by the cavalry. Military Drill can really make a difference early with its boost to morale, so if the Ottomans have it plus their superior troops, you really won't have much luck.
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>tfw can't play HoI3 BICE because shitty screen resolution doesn't let me see half of the stuff

Is there a way to fix this ;-;
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>>153989858
>this doesn't get deleted
epic
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>>153990298
Use software to increase your screen resolution artificially above its normal limits then use borderless windowed mode.
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Will a mod ever be able to do something about this nonsense? How could we even solve the inheritance problem?
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>>153990461
The only to fix that kind of stuff is by direct interventioin through >cheats
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>>153990461
What are you on about?
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>>153989662
BTFO
T
F
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>>153990579
only way* intervention*

Fuck I'm tired
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>>153989384
R&I BTFO HAHAHA FUCKING COCKSUCKERS
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>>153990668
?
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>first proper game where i've actually achieved something, Mansa of Mali
>Forget to keep making political marriages with the Sunni Empire of Hispania on top of me, about 5 times stronger than my tribal ass
>mfw holy war for emirate of marrakech out of nowhere

And that's how I became a vassal of the Umayyads.
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Is Paradox redpilled?
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>>153990852
Of course, they're holocaust deniars.
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>>153990114
Castille. With 16 land tech, I've only Latin Cav and Chevauchee. My infantry can be Reformed Gallows, Landsknechten, and Condatta (Respectively, they're offensive, defensive, balanced(?) options, right?).
I'm also at 16 Gov tech, so I could just dump my research and get Military Drill in just short of 3 years.
Should I just let my French allies shit over Anatolia while I diddle my thumbs in Iberia until I get Military Drill? I'm not too keen watching these Turks run about with Spanish land.
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>>153990461
This shit fucks my will to play.

>>153990579
I wish a mod came up with a way of stopping this shit without needing cheats.

>>153990608
>Portugal spread all over France, in the heart of France and other places.
>English revolt in the middle of the HRE.
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>>153990886
Wat
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>>153990975
Well CK2+ destroys a title if it is inherited by someone who has no control over it's de jure territory. Alsoy europe really was that fucked up IRL, spanish netherlands should are possibly
the most brazen example but there are others.
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I've asked this question before, and it was pretty fun, so...

Are you guys, like me, autistic enough to name any of your armies in Paradox games? Have any examples?
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>>153991149
Spanish netherlands is coastal, in the rare cases someone inherited a castle far away in the middle of somewhere they left someone local in charge and at max spent a few months there away from everything. It certainly didn't end with crossing the Seine to go to Paris making you enter Portugal.
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>>153990887
>french "allies"
>France is clearly blobbing into you in the screenshot
the fuck are you doing anon
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>>153989858
Based Cobra
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>>153991305
Not my particular flavor of autism but I don't judge you.
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>>153990887
yeah that sounds about right. I believe the offensive and defensive stats only come into play depending on who is attacking, so if you figure you'll be attacking more than waiting and baiting, I'd go for the Reformed.

It took me a little while to get the hang of armies too, and knowing when to send a stack and when to bait the enemy. It's also a good idea to learn about attrition and taking notice of if and when an army is going to enter a province after the first of the month.

But do take Military Drill when you can. It's usually the first idea that a lot of AI countries take, so you can be at a disadvantage if you don't as well.
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anyone else here really hate jews? not in a nazi kinda of way but because of israel and the oppression of palestine
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>>153991823
Nazi pig
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>>153991823
People here dont really give a fuck about your nationality, religion, gender, sexual preferences or opinion, will bash anyone who asks moronic question and shame anyone who tells lame jokes.

Enjoy your stay,
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>>153991389
I'm trying to learn how to defend clay. Now Turk wants my clay and Baguette wants to fight Turk.
>>153991510
Okay, sounds good. I'll stay in Iberia while France provides a distraction, add more cavalry to my armies and more transports to my navy, rush towards MD, and, hopefully, that'll work out.
What are some other things I can try to work towards in the mean time? I'm also curious about Generals, as the ones I buy are pretty shitty. Do they just apply their bonuses towards the rolls of the phase of the battle, but, then, what does a bonus to maneuver or siege mean?
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>>153991823
The think the nation of Israel sucks but I don't hate Jews for it.
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>>153991823
Just the rich fucks desu, fuck the bourgeois :D
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>>153992092
hating israel has caused me to hate jews as well because of how intertwined the state is with the religion

t. reddit
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>>153992086
When you click on an army and it shows its info in the UI, the cavalry number will turn red if you go over your bonus limit, so pay attention to that. Like I said I think it's 60%. If you hover over it it should tell you.

Generally as Castille you try to form Spain or go colonizing, but since that can be expensive you should try making more money. Also I just noticed you're in a war but your military maintenance is not at 100%. That'll really deplete your army morale and cause you to lose many battles.

Your generals are bought with Army Tradition, which is gained mostly from winning battles but you can also get it through events and buildings. The higher your tradition, the better your generals. The generals add their bonuses to your army during battles, but if your general has a +2 to shock, and the enemy has a +1 shock general, you only get a +1 bonus, as it subtracts from whichever is higher. Maneuver bonus means your army moves faster through the map, which can help you get to a province before an enemy army, giving you a terrain advantage, and siege bonus just makes province sieges go faster.
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wwi
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>>153992616
>60%
It says 50% for Combined Arms bonus
>military maintenance is not at 100%
My armies are at 100%, but I'm leaving my navies at 70% because there's not a lot of naval combat going on, so that'd just drain my income. Is this a bad policy, or is it worth the extra drain on resources, especially as I'm above my build limit?
>Generals
Okay, cool, that's nice to know.
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Is Johan based?
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>>153992825
Maybe 60% was for Eastern Tech. Lowering your maintenance during peace or when unused is definitely recommended. Putting the slider all the way down is fine, though it takes about 2 or 3 months for them to regain their morale when you put it back up, so be wary of that before you declare any wars.

There's really no penalty for it other than morale, so either have it all the way up, or all the way down. As for being above your build limit, that gets really expensive and can give you a nasty event that causes a shortage of naval supplies and gives you a big penalty to ship build cost and time and things like that for the rest of the game. Try to stay at or below if possible
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What IS it?
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Why is the catholic church a thing in early starts of ck2 when the split only happened later
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>CK2+ updated
>HIP updated
>Warhammer mod ?
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>>153993390
It has something to do with liquor.
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>>153993390
Realism is not a meaningful argument.
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>>153993379
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>>153994512
Takes me back. Nothing quite like a mag shield saving you from an entire-world MIRV by deflecting the one that had your name on it.
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>>153994512
wow hoi1 graphics really havent ages well desu
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>>153994512
NO KITBITZING
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>>153993390
While the "official" split wasn't until shortly before the 1066 start, there was a huge difference in the ideological and practices of the Greek and Latin churches.
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>>153991305
in hoi4 I'm autistic enough to use google translate to figure the names for everything from division names to army/fleet names
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>>153995714
that doesn't mean the pope should be the pope
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>>153995839
Memes aside, how is that game? I still haven't gotten around to 3 yet. They look a little high on the autism for me but I'm a sucker for WW2 shit.
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>>153996543
HoI3 has a pre-ck2 UI that killed my interest, but is acclaimed as the much better game.

HoI4 is much more accessible at the cost of being a shitton easier and more casual of a game. I've seen mixed reactions around the general.
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>>153996543
HoI3 is a better game, objectively, in most features. It's a tad hard to get into though, and if you're like me, it crashes every ten minutes

Personally I enjoy HoI4 as just a WW2 strategy game to just get comfy and play, but as you'll soon see from a flood of replies, nobody else here does.
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Holy shit I made my Heir a Merc in CKII, when I died he had a fuckload of gold, and was involved in a war on a petty kingdom. When I finished the war, I got to keep the kingdom. I also got to keep his court of commanders who he mercd with.
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>>153996543
Much better game if you enjoy the sandboxey feel of eu4 over the historical simulation that was hoi3. Dont play it for another few DLC though, its at a place where playing it could make you hate the game
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>>153996662
How do you make your son a merc?
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>>153991305
Yeah sometimes, but then if you split/merge the armies it fucks up the naming. I'd spend ages renaming my German armies so that the numbering displayed in order, but then after one war it would be completely fucked, and I would have to fix it all again. It gets kind of tiring after a while.
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>>153996694
I just wish they'd fix the fucking rockets.
They infinitely fly into whatever province they hit and don't explode.
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>>153996948
Its from a DLC I think, but you just do it like you do anything to them from the profile, and I think he uses your troops while he's away, as well as costing you 50 gold to set him up. You get a percent of his profits from people hiring him. Can be done to anybody eligible but with the Heir it's a bit unique because they inherit halfway through.

Also they must be militarily trained and competent.
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Jesus christ the new war system in Hearts of Iron 4 is so unbelievably garbage. I love the political system in the game, but going in to a war just ruins everything.
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>>153997336
What part about it, specifically?
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Did the /qa/ thread get deleted?
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>>153997471
I feel so out of control of battles, it seems the divisions automatically make the most inane strategic choices, the offensive line painter just feels horrible to use, and air stuff is needlessly overcomplicated. Maybe I'm too used to the Darkest Hour/HoI2 format, but it feels like wars are a lot more of a chore than they used to be with the terrible front mechanic and piss poor interface.

It just disappoints me so much, because I absolutely love the political systems they implemented, and think that portion is a great leap over HoI2's.
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>>153997746
hoi3 would be great if the peace system wasn't pure shit
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>>153997802
I've never played 3, what's wrong with its peace system?
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>>153997746
Yeah I know how you feel with the AI. "Lets push one province and keep pushing down in a straight line far away from the actual front." The supply system is an underexplained pain in the ass, the planning system only benefits you if you aren't already in a war and naval battles are so bizarre and fairly mundane.

The air system seems fine to me though, don't really see the gripe with that. I will say that they should really let you designate an area for your planes, rather than pre-determined regions. Even my jet fighters can't cover all of eastern-canada, which fucks them over in efficiency.
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>>153995839
I sometimes do the same in DH.
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>>153998074
I can't seem to actually get my planes to work, for whatever reason. They don't want to do anything.
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>>153998226
You have to create air wings in air bases, and then click the air base, select the air wings, click on a province with them selected (might be right click), and then give them missions on the left menu, where they will continue to carry them out until they either die or the war moves on.
Also, you should try to keep your fighter wings to 100 planes for various reasons.
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>>153998218
>Tfw you can't name factions in DH
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>>153989047
What am I in for lads?
What will the 30 years war be like?
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>>153989384
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2plus-v4-05-0-main-download-thread-september-5th-2016.937262/page-5
Iz out
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>How to fix HoI4 economy with one move:
Add fucking money as a currency into the game. They are produced from unused civilian factories (which might motivate the player to keep some instead of converting all of them to military ones at mid-late game). Instead of civilian factories (how the fuck do you export a factory), you now export money for resources. You can also import money for resources (how the fuck did they release a game where you cannot export things). Military equipment can also be bought for money (expensively), which will represent how smaller countries had to import weapons, ships and airplains from greater powers with contracts.

This just fixed 25% of the game. Another 25% can be fixed through several small fixes (remove ms-paint portraits with historical ones, add ability to demand/offer territory, make the tech-tree not look like a fucking World of Tanks store, add more than 1 historical personality for small countries, map redesign, fix unit/symbol/animation sizes, etc). Rest 50% is up to fixing the literally useless AI.

It's pretty sad how much content is missing from previous HoI titles that could be easily implemented with literally no downside. It appears that the millenials they hired to make their game haven't even played HoI2.
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>>153998618
I really enjoy the idea of this, and it even makes more historical sense.
Even if they did though, they'd release those changes in an overpriced DLC because Paradox believes the only way to fix a problem with a game is through expansions.
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what should be my goals as brandenburg > prussia > gr0ssgermaniums in eu3
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>>153998780
form grossgermania then escape to the new world
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w-what happened to the DLC in MEGA
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>>153998865
steamgruppe decided to throw a shitfit
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>>153998865
Based steamcord took it down.
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>>153998865
It's gone so now you have to download shit off zippyshare or a torrent.
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>>153998618
you know, you are 100% right, but paradox won't do it.
it's pretty sad actually. this suggestion is perfectly within the game's engine capabilities, it will make the game more immersive, it will fix multiplayer to some extent and it will make smaller countries much more fun to play without making blobbing necessary.

but they still won't do it, because it is paradox. and in the 0.1% chance they do it, it will be in the form of a dlc 2x times more expensive than the base game, that will come up with a shit-ton of other broken features.
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>>153998865
Every thread, there's at least one of you retards. Read the OP.
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I want to play EU4 but without blobbing.

Can someone recommend me something?
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>>153999602
Get MEIOU and be the comfiest merchant republic
Alternatively unify Japan and keep the firthy gaijin out
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>>153999602
Are colonies blobbing?
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>>154000220
>imperialism
>comfy

choose 1
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^dumb gay anarchismposter

democracy is based
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>>154000662
All forms of government are shit, but no government is shittier.
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>>154000457
Settler colonies are pretty comfy if you don't go trying to paint entire continents.
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What exactly is the difference between CK2+ and HIP?
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OH SAY CAN YOU SEE
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>>154001785
No I'm blind.
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>>154001807
t.14yo

>>154001785
BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT
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Based Americans
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>>154001841
WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAILED
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>>153999445
Delete this shit.
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>>154001856
>Based
>Americunts
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>>154001975
t.3rd world citizen

>>154001958
AT THE TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING?
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>>154001975
Americans are based

I'm sorry you aren't free
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>>154002008
>>154002023
.
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ancaps are based
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>>154002238
Good thing that all Americans are ancaps.
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The new disease animations are pretty cool, and the system is in general a pretty good addition to the game

Good job paradox
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Is the Aztec invasion balanced for randomisation or is it always this fucking brutal?

I was King of Ireland and Chief of Half of Wales. There was literally nothing me or the defense pact could do`against 90K Aztec troops railing through my lands. I still have some land left in Wales but is it even worth continuing?
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>>154002563
Now if only they didn't kill half the game world at age 16
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>>153989047
When you use HIP, do you guys prefer English names or names in the nation's language?
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>>154002595
Oh yeah by that I meant it happened in 857AD, is it balanced if it procs at the standard time, obviously Crusader Kings 2 here.
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>>154002595
>playing with aztec invasion on
No, nothing about it is balanced. It's just a reskinned Mongol Invasion where they get hundreds of thousands of attrition free troops to blob with.
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Reminder to shitpost and ignore reporting.
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>Intermarry a lot with Karlings
>Lose Crusade for Jerusalem because no relevant kingdoms decided to join
>Realize I need to be a relevant kingdom myself if anyone is ever to remove kebab
>West Francia is getting himself rekt in an offensive war
>Win his land using my alliance with the ERE and Bigscotland
>Use same alliances to cull immediate rebellions
>Cringe looking at my new borders
>Slowly eat easily grabbed counties
>Now this guy is in a war to make me king of Germany
For fucks' sake guys, all I wanted was to be a crusader king that I could take on to EUIV, now look at me
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First time playing abyssinian kangz, any advice how I evade taking the BBC (big brown cock)?
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>>154003615
Why don't you ask /pol/?
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>>154003650
t. meneth
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How does CKII+ compare to HIP? Been a HIP player for years now
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>>154003881
Nice cross linking.
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ungrateful little shit
all I did was cuck him twice
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HPM man, the Annex Tannu Tava event doesnt work.
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Is HIP or CK2+ the better mod?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niall_Ferguson#World_War_I

Why haven't you made a career out of being a grossgermaniumsboo?
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Do I actually need to take the decision to make Finnish non-accepted to form Scandinavia? The description makes it seem like that but it looks like you can progress normally through the Kalmar union decisions without doing it so I'm not sure.
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>>154004502
his empire book was pretty good desu
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is it possible to filter by religion?
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>>154004636
Yes you do.
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someone post ck2+ download link pls
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>>154004671
There's the option list thing right there, to the right and under the search bar, or you can just order the list by religion and scroll to where the Jewish characters are.
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>>154004328
>HPM man
Fresh off the boat from reddit?
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>>154005051
Reddit is based
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>>154005051
plz fix tanu tava
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>>154005126
Your mom is based, you fucking fag
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>>154005216
Don't worry buddy, I'll get Based HPMan onto that for ya.
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>>154003470
Holy shit, fuck me and my impatience

The stars had aligned and I was granted an invasion CB by the pope on aquitaine
Once again, the ERE helped me greatly in winning the war, but I suddenly noticed a duchy gained independence from Aquitaine, so I panicked and ended the war as quickly as possible. Don't ever do that

Sieging down provinces in an invasion means you'll get direct control of them, but if you don't you'll end up with the AI's clusterfuck
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The CK+ dropbox link was blocked due to "too much traffic" (oy vey), could someone reupload? tia
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>>154004689
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4q9x4qys0utitz/4.05.0.zip?dl=0%27

The original link is this one, but it doesn't work. Mod's in the archive now.
https://mega.nz/#!95URFTaT!LirgtvcrG1Bklmi_ze3v25gjAb70XOEcNAWepDZrGJU
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>>154004328
You mean the decision? It doesn't inherit when you click it?
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Goals? Or just comfy industrializing?
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>>154005583
What map mod is that?
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>>154005583
You already annexed an area larger than Korea Proper. Just industrialize.
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>>154005831
I was thinking of making a Manchurian puppet behind the Amur and the border provinces but it would look pretty bad

>>154005824
Its Divergence of darkness not sure if theres any mapmod
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>>154005583
Korean Congo
then annex Chile
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>>154005558
Hey HPM can you make a new culture for Alaskan Russians so people can immigrate and assimilate there?
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>>154005583
Make Japan your bitch boy
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>>154005558
Lad how did you notice that the games were sending data to Paradox? Using netstat in cmd? My internet's been very slow lately and I suspect something is going on
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>>154005558
You should increase migration push. In a recent game as Italy I had like 20 mil pops in my core territory by 1905, only 100k in the colonies and barely any emigration. You'd think demographic pressures would be way higher in this situation, especially for a country like Italy
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>>154005558
Hey HPM when you gonna fix the Brazil with real States?
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>>154005558
hardly any pre-unification german emigration, me lad, had at least 20m pops in Germany by 1890
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>>154005558
JUST RELEASE THE NEW MOD ALREADY DAMN IT.
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I think I made up a good way of ending border gore in CK2.

When an inheritance would end with a foreigner controlling a whole county in the middle of another kingdom's, that county should automatically flip capitals to another holding. First it would try a another equal holding, then churches and cities. That way you still have external inheritance but you don't have dumb shit like pic related. Far-away holdings in landlocked places should have to still pay some taxes to the count and would net less soldiers. He should probably have to pay for a constable or some shit like that to take care of his fief too.
If the owner of a holding is a count and owns barony in another kings kingdom and the province is ruled by a mayor or bishop, then said count could betray his former master and swear allegiance to the new king in exchange of his barony becoming the capital and moving his court there.
The only problem with this is how to deal with one-holding only provinces.

If a king inherits a crown and ends up with a landlocked kingdom, or alternatively if anyone ends with a landlocked duchy or cluster of holdings, he should be obliged either to move there and make it their main holding or appoint a viceroy or governor. They would pay taxes and would need to answer the king's calls to arms but would otherwise remain with a separate council and separate nobles. Name and color should also remain separate.
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>>154005558
You finish the stuff about Netherlands getting cores on french flanders?
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>>154006227
Won't do it from the start but I can make an "Alaskan" culture which is generic enough to not imply anything but region and a decision that flips the capital to the culture.

>>154006336
I used a sniffer.

>>154006358
>>154006618
Migration push is already more than double than vanilla (for unemployment). Besides the increased chances of leaving it's largely vanilla. Do remember that in places with factories pops won't move as easily and it's not about how many people you have but their living conditions.

>>154006519
Already answered that and the answer didn't change.

>>154006972
No, didn't have the time. Speaking about time, I have to go. Bye /gsg/.
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>>154006948
These kind of enclaves happened irl though
What if the color of the county changed to the color of the highest title of the dejure liege of the county, it would make things much easier on the eyes, and it would make sense since the holder of the county is technically a vassal of the dejure holder there
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>>154007216
btw, is there anything you can do about pops(labourers/farmers) emigrating when the RGO thing is full? Do they still work there even though it says it's full?
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>>154007216
congrats on getting married by the way
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>>154006948
It'd need to be messed with a bit but this sounds like a good idea if you ask me.

Another thing that, in my opinion, would fix nomads for good, would be to set up a sort of "flow" of the nomadic cultures down the steppe by limiting the amount of land a nomadic entity can hold (in terms of counties + subholdings, so an empty 7 holding province needs about as many people to hold it as 7 1 holding provinces) based on their population size. Population growth would be dependent on holding lots of land, but over time land you've held the longest should deteriorate, doing so faster if you don't hold enough land, and when you expand, either above your limit or while holding these, they get abandoned. Other nomads can claim them at their leisure if they border it, and civilized sorts should be able to build holdings there.
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>>154007283
They happened in the way I'm proposing they happen. If a Spanish noble inherited a castle in the middle of England he wouldn't control that whole county, he would just get the castle. Only situation that can be true is when distances aren't really that great that makes control of both effective.

When a king inherited a crown he didn't rule it all like it was nothing, he can't be in two places at once. It was like the Iberian union: the king sat with his ass in spain while Portugal was de facto separated. If the King of France inherits the crowns of Hungary, he wouldn't control the nobles there with his telepathic powers. He would name a regent to rule in his stead.
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>>154006948

Just set regulated inheritance to always on if this kind of things really bothers you. Inheriting county and getting a barony makes even less sense than inheriting an exclave. IRL this thing didn't happen because one man could pay taxes to two people, i.e. count could be a vassal of two dukes simultaneously, now if you could impliment that, that would be singularly impressive.
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how do I fuck my wife faster?
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>>154007632
vassal of one tributary of another?
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>>154007216
Could you give the player/AI access to decisions that reduce RGO size in non-colonial provinces (maybe in exchange for increased throughput efficiency, once you develop electricity/tractors), to properly encourage industrialization or colonial emigration?

This is especially annoying sometimes just because how huge the RGOs in some provinces are, if I remember right a few provinces in New England start with RGOs that can hold 1.3m pops each.
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>>154007562
I find that in general CK2 needs a system wherein far away vassals can betray their liege and become independent/swear fealty to someone else to better simulate the entropy of empires, it could happen over time with the liege having less and less authority over the vassal every succession/ lost war etc.(but it should be able to be prevented). it would make empires more interesting
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>>154007701
That could work, altho I'm not sure it will solve the issue of border gore. But than again, if there was an easy solution that makes sense from standpoint of history and game mechanics, we wouldn't have jokes about Aquitaine (I think that's the one with iffy vassalage) as part of patch notes.
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>>154007835
i really think that the tributary system in ck2 can be used to do this well. Like on succession the "vassals" that liked you stay tributaries and over time may integrate fully as real vassals. While the ones that didnt like you just flake off and you get a CB against them.

Would also make things harder since you now have to work with many allies instead of raising half your vassals shit for yourself.
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>>154007632
That would completely eliminate external inheritance, which is its own problem. He could be nominally called a "count" but he would never control that land.
In the game inheriting the holding is tied to the county, if the county wasnt the capital it would just be a barony.
You see I think this kind of stuff (exclaves) should still happen but only if the exclave is coastal or near enought he kingdoms border to make crossing there something viable. Right now a count in iceland can inherit shit in the middle of India like it's nothing, and control both.
In the case of kingdoms and duchies, you'd still control them but they would have a far higher degree of independence, with self-rule and a designated regent.

>>154007489
I'm not sure I get what you are saying, but then again I didn't play nomads too much. Is population growth tied to peace or war in any way? Seems kinda dumb if it isn't since if you get all men dead in a war but people continue breeding like nothing happened.

>>154007835
Well that's part of the plans, you could betray your liege and swear fealty to another, without a war but pissing a lot of people off, if you held a barony/county of another king and moved there.
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>>154008073
Integration over time should depend on shared borders, how can you integrate something if you don't effectively rule the place and it's far away from your court?
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>>154004043
CK2+ is designed to try and make CK harder, which is pretty fucking stupid as CK2 isn't about being difficult, it's about being a Dynasty-RP GSG-lite game, which HIP excels at improving.

Plus HIP implemented most of the better aspects of CK2+ so there's no real reason to choose CK2+ unless you're just memeing.
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>>154008112
>He could be nominally called a "count" but he would never control that land.
Sorry I can't be arsed to dig trough history for detailed examples, so I won't argue historicity, I will simply restate that baronies are useless, if you want to go with this, one option could be to create a new count there, make him vassal of the proper authorities and a tributary of the count who should have inherited, thus representing the sort of regency you are describing and avoiding border gore. But then again, I don't mind the gore, so what do I know.
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>>154007835
Fuck off, you stupid cunt.
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>>154008112
I was mostly thinking in context of middle eastern empires(or whatever meme empire you stamp out of the ground), it was a region that was very dynamic in the middle ages and imperial entropy was a large factor in that
>>154008342
Why so mad, scared it would hurt your precious blob?
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>>154008301
Yeah cause there is only one way to play a game where you need 100 hours to make you an average player.

>>154004043
Pic related for actual answer.
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>>154008112
Basically nomads grow in size over time. What I'm proposing is that based on how big they are, they need more land to sustain themselves, but also can only own so much land given the size of their horde.

When they take new land, land on the other side of them would stop being owned by them, letting nomads on that side move to fill in the gap. The person they just conquered, if they're also a nomad, also now needs more land, so they'd push further down the steppe until they hit civilization like what happened historically.

I'm basically trying to figure out a healthy way to prevent the nomad doomstacks from forming and just holding together forever, since that's not realistic at fucking all outside of the Mongols. No one ruled the whole steppe forever.
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>>154008319
>The title of Count was also often conferred by the monarch as an honorific title for special services rendered, without a feudal estate (countship, county) being attached, so it was merely a title, with or without a domain name attached to it.
When you inherit something, you inherit the holding. Castle only, titles are normally just honorifics but the game doesn't simulate that.
The current way it happens is retarded though. If a noble from Portugal inherits the "county" of Paris, he becomes lord of Paris. Like the French king would let that happen. What would happen IRL is that the french king recognize's that the noble is the rightful owner of the castle and the castle would become a vacation house for the portuguese noble, because his power would be limited to the castle walls.
The power of a "capital holding" to control the other holdings isn't something inherent, it comes from control of the land. An exclave where the owner resides at thousands of kilometers of distance doesn't control the land and if the portuguese noble didn't abide by the French's terms he would lose his holding to starvation as the french king bans any trade with the castle and harass the lands.
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>>154008818
>rylock calling it subhuman VIET-users for what they are
Good man.
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>>154008818
K so nothing I said was inaccurate, thanks for the redundancy anon.
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>>154008995
Do people actually unironically use VIET?
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HIP is far superior to CK2+
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>>154008995
I honestly can't fathom how anyone would include VIET in their own mods. Like what's the fucking point? You just bring the quality if your own shit down. Mods don't need to be all serious all the time if the author wants to include some references, fine. But when the references are about Skyrim, Anime and when you fill it with toilet humor, then who the fuck would include it in any serious mod compilation?

Paradox thinks that allowing mods with genocide in their forums is "supporting them". I disagree. But choosing to bundle VIET in your mod IS supporting it.
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>>154008873
You do realise that the steppe can hold millions and millions of nomads, right?
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>>154009196
There is a subset of users who find it hilarious and "cute".
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>>154009196
People get fooled all the time by the mod's name. It's the famous bait and switch tactic.

>>154008873
At least in HIP I saw the mongol empire blob and then fracture in a million little pieces after the khan's death, which is kinda lame since the golden horde was still around.

I miss the Golden Horde and the Ilkhanate.
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>>154008918
I will go ahead and assume you are 100% correct on historicity, since as I said I can't be arsed. My problem with your solution isn't that it's horribad, but rather that from gameplay perspective it creates issues, such as with events/decisions that require comple control of a county/dutchy/kingdom w/o producing anything productive. I.E. Who cares if a portuguise count holds an extra barony or if he doesn't. I'm pretty sure even if that count is a player he won't give a flying fuck.

>>154009248
Eh, VIET is a guilty pleasure for some and stupid silly fun for others. I'm not gonna defend it's silliness, becaue I don't care and am not on of either groups. Just mention that toilet humor wouldn't be a category if there weren't enough people around who enjoy it.
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>>154009484
My problem isn't that it is toilet humor and a mememod, people enjoy what they want, the problem is naming it "Vanilla Events" when it doesn't even try to do that. At least name it what it is.
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>>154009267
Gameplay and Reality segregation.

>>154009414
Yeah I think there's an event for that, though that's not really how it worked IRL. The Mongol Empire should only get stunned when their Khan dies as they elect another one.
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>>154009484
>Just mention that toilet humor wouldn't be a category if there weren't enough people around who enjoy it.
It's not even "good" toilet humour though, it's literally benis benis benis xDDDD
>>154009406 example

I could only really imagine a 12 year old finding that funny
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>>154009597
Well yeah, but I, myself, find that bait amusing in "should have done your fucking research" kind of way.
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>>153989047
I've never played this game before, how do I get good?
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>>154009406
I admit, I chuckled.
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>>154009695
>how do I get good?
You stop being bad.
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>>154009670
>I could only really imagine a 12 year old finding that funny
This. Honestly, who the fuck find cock jokes and skyrim references funny? Might as well find doge shit funny.
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Think I'm growing up 4chan as a whole lads
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>>154009484
>My problem with your solution isn't that it's horribad, but rather that from gameplay perspective it creates issues, such as with events/decisions that require comple control of a county/dutchy/kingdom w/o producing anything productive. I.E. Who cares if a portuguise count holds an extra barony or if he doesn't. I'm pretty sure even if that count is a player he won't give a flying fuck.
For that I suggest the new baron gets a permanent CB to vassalize the other holdings, essentially making them tributaries and naming a regent to rule.
One of the problems with CK2 is that characters are virtually omnipresent. That isn't much of a problem in kingdoms with a land connection but when border gore starts that becomes glaring.
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>>154009695
>Democratic Tibet
Absolute madman
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>>154009810
dumb animeposter
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Posted this last thread as it was dying, figured I'd repost.

What's a good Muslim starting duchy in CK2? Best Islamic heresy? Starting a fresh game, are any of them passable or should I stick with Sunni or Shia pending on how far East I start?
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>>154009196
Used it accidentally,disabled it when I learned I could disable it.
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Can counties drift de jure in a duchy?

>>154009949
Saladin.
None, heresy is for the kaffir.
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>>154007216
P..please Brazil...Fix.

;_;
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Btw HIP just released a new version.
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>>154010090
I'm a Ruler-Designerfag, I don't really play historical characters, and I usually always opt for the 867 start as I'm an HIP user.
Sunni or Shia then famalam?
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>>154010101
Are you simsulla? Are you literally incapable of understanding how states work?
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>still next to zero coal or iron production in south america
>dejima still doesn't exist
>iberia still can't be formed (while scandinavia and the arab union can be formed for some reason)
>colonial emigration is still shit
>assimilation outside of the new world is still shit
>even in the new world, assimilation is still shit because it converts pop religions instantly
>religion is still pretty much absolutely useless for the most part, having next to no weight on assimilation
>genocide is still shit because it makes primary culture libtards mad enough for them to start a large-scale revolt in their core provinces (this literally never happened historically), and immigration attraction in affected provinces is reduced so you can't even repopulate them properly
>still can't kill off accepted pops via genocide or turn them into non-accepted

fuck HPM
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>>154010217
>One may no longer plot to fabricate a claim upon their liege's primary title if it is king-tier or higher.
>Saladin is literally impossible now.
Thanks Meneth.
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>>154010464
trob
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>>154007216
Shouldn't South Africa get another immigration buff for an extra couple of years after unifying it with the Boers/reclaiming the Cape?
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>>154010217
Can you copy-paste patch notes? I'm at work and don't know my Jewadox login info.
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>>154007216
>>154010586
>Bye /gsg/.
EVERY FUCKING TIME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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>>154010612

EMF v6.01
MAJOR:
(Vanilla Map) EU4 Conversion Supported
EMF+Vanilla (EMF without SWMH) game conversion to Europa Universalis 4 via the Converter DLC should now be more correct than ever.
All EMF-unique religious, cultural, and government type setup is now supported for conversion.
While we were at it, we incorporated the mod Vanilla Converter Fixes v0.8 with permission from and credit to @tkamin (see: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/mod-converter-vanilla-converter-fixes.871522/).
CHANGES:
Coronations:
Coronation event text will now mention the performing bishop, if there is one.
Vassals of neighboring realms are no longer invited to a coronation - they are either in the same realm as the ruler being coronated or they are independent.
The bishop performing a royal/imperial coronation is no longer random. Five days after invitations are sent out, bishops will begin asking to perform the ceremony - beginning with the religion head (if invited) and moving down through the ranks by tier, friends/relatives, and then baron-tier bishops first in the ruler's capital and then elsewhere in their realm. Only one such request fires each day until the coronation is performed (and they stop the moment you accept one).
Fighter & Diplomacy Traits:
Fighter training now does not start until age 6 (rather than age 5).
Added more checks to adjust the time it takes for a child to increase their training skill.
Once a child levels up in either Fighter or Diplomat training, they will not do so for at least another year.
Female children do not receive Fighter training unless they are eligible to lead armies.
Female children do not receive Diplomat training unless they are eligible to be chancellors or are independent rulers.
Educators are now increasingly better at training children the higher their own Fighter or Diplomat skill is.
Chancellors can slowly increase their Diplomat skill over time.
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>>154010784
Fighter skill can now decrease more than one level after age 45, but after it decreases it won't decrease again for another 10 years at least.
The Become a Saint ambition should now take longer to complete, and there will be far fewer AI characters who attempt it and succeed (and thus fewer saints being declared overall).
The Become King ambition will no longer be selected by rulers that are outright disqualified from creating their capital kingdom title (due to special creation requirements, which are present at least in some form for every kingdom title), if it is not already held by another ruler.
When a player ruler dies, their successor will immediately have their current focus and ambition cleared, if any.
Within the first year after a player's succession, the focus of any of their children who are in their court may be cleared once via the new Clear Childhood Focus diplo-decision.
Military:
Increased raised-levy maintenance cost factor a bit (from a factor of 2.2 to 2.5).
Slightly decreased warscore-worth of normal battles (from a multiplier of 1.33 to 1.25).
Significantly increased warscore-worth of battles that are part of a crusade/jihad/GHW (now vanilla) or a duchy adventure or similar (higher than vanilla).
One may no longer plot to fabricate a claim upon their liege's primary title if it is king-tier or higher.
Gaining a claim on an Imperial throne can no longer be done by mercenaries or holy orders, and the claimant must now be of the emperor's religion.

2/3
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if i wanted to culture-convert my dynasty to saxon, all i'd need to do is invite a saxon to my court and make him educate my kid, right?
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>>154010880
You need to land him
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>>154010849
FIXES:
Recently Acquired modifier has been changed back to the proper hourglass icon.
Fixed one Imperial courtiers event where you could become a friend of the wrong courtier.
When a character dies due to health complications from dwarfism, the death reason should now be localised as such (instead of just 'death_dwarf').
Fixed vanilla omission of the Caliphal Subjugation CB with regard to the new "when launching a war adds a major cooldown or costs a lot of piety, it will be removed/refunded if the war invalidates" practice.
(EMF+SWMH) Great Moravia is no longer rendered titular upon formation of the HRE to avoid the 2.6.1.1 "anybody can usurp titular titles, including AI" bug.

SWMH v2.936
Actually fixed the "anybody can usurp Asturias" bug this time

CPRplus v2.6.1
NEW FEATURES:
Added a new portrait set: Egyptian (brand new face)
FIXES:
Altaic cultures should now see Mongol advisor graphics on the map

3/3 the end

I can't understand why they disabled the vanilla "disable AI seduction focus" option. It's a fucking option, let us choose. Honestly does Meneth enjoy getting cucked so much he wants to force it down our throat?
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>>154010915
does he need to have any specific stats/traits for it to work better?
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>>154010784
So HIP can now be converted ? That's neat.
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>>154005558
the event doesnt even become clickable
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Muslims are white and based
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>>154011089
Diligent + gregarious IIRC
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>>154011429
Muslims are cancer of mankind.
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based Johan poster
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>>154011089
>>154011786
And high diplo helps too iirc
which should be high with these traits anyway
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>>154011979
A true hero
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>>154011918
Muslims are based
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>>154012046
See>>154011918
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>>154011786
This is true w/o conclave. With it, I have no idea if it does anything, but if you set heritage focus you are basically guaranteed a culture flipped kid.
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>>154012038
>>154011786
heritage focus? or is that only for his birth culture
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>>154012071
see >>154012046
& >>154011429
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lol
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>>154012201
LOL
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>>154012193
.
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>>154012241
Useless post.
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>>154012193
based reddit
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>>154012314
reddit is based
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What are some good HOI3 mods? The OP doesn't mention any.
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>>154012416
Try the ones in the archive.
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>>154012416
>HOI3
Just play HOI4 like a normal person you fat neckbeard fuck.
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Alhamdulillah, Nurid ibn Khalid. Go with my blessings, maybe the order will make a man out of you.
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>play HOI 4
>claims to be realistic xd
>no gulag/concentration camp economy for USSR or National Socialist Germany
>have that huge manpower cap on Estonia and Latvia, despite them giving superb and substantial amount of soldiers to the germs
>you don't have the ability to round up all foreign intellectuals that are behind revolts and are instigators of resistance towards draft
>puppets refuse to give you lands

Wow, lads, wow.
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>>154012610
Is this an event from a mod?
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What's the most fun title to play in HIP? I'm a big fan of King of Jerusalem, Italian count, Sicily and Byzantine Duke. Anything cool I'm missing out on?
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>>154013524
Hæstein was pretty fun
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>>154012416
Black Ice is the best one followed the Downfall for a vanilla+ experience HPP is a meme stay away from it.
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>>154013345
We can't have horrors of WW in our game about WW, that would be unthinkable.

>>154013456
There are such events in base game, but given lack of a number next to dynasty I suspect thats HIP screenshot.

>>154013524
Mandatory mention of vikings. Of the ones you mentioned Pagan sicily or good old purple strategoi are good options.
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>>154013575
Won't the nearby Catholic assholes declare war on you right away?
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Has HIP reintroduced the old character pane back from the pre-Reaper's Due patch? I got used to it and going back to the Vanilla Portrait organization is kind of tedious.
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>play as Sicily
>smash byzies using meme straits
Is Wiz the best game developer of all time?
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>>154013686
I had pretty good success with immediately preparing an invasion of Brittany
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>>154013728
Objectively speaking, yes, he is.
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>die at 71 after spending a lifetime revoking council privileges
>heir takes the throne, playing on speed 5
>he owes favors to almost every council member
A life's work undone almost instantly.
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Subhanallah, 93 years after the Abbasid caliph sent my father, Salah ad-Din, to Egypt to deal with the fatimids, we are finally returning home. The Abbasids have grown decadent, they forgot their levantine and arabic roots. Badshah Musa the just, sultan of Egypt, Abyssinia, Arabia and now Mesopotania is 71 years old but still has to root out the decadent Abbasids from the levant.
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Big scary Aztec came, wrecked France, took Aquitaine and... Thats it.
Retards keep taking prosper ambition and don't conquer shit.
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>>154014438
>Religion specifically penalizes the ruler for being at peace too long
>5 years of peace ambition
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>>154014438
Why do people play with this meme DLC
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>>154013686
You pick him to prepare invasion on whoever you want, staying in Brittany is a sad waste of potential fun
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>>154014438
>Aztec
post hidden 2bh
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>>154014673
A better question is why did Paradox even make this meme DLC?

How is it that Crusades are still one of the least fleshed out aspects of CRUSADER Kings? Why does this shit and Rajas of India exist before a Crusade expansion?
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>>154014438
Now I'm no expert on ancient history, but this seems really fucking unlikely.
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>>154014827
That's nice. I take it you're new to these games?
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When will there be a next HPM update?
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>>154014810
Didn't they make a zombie DLC recently
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>>154014810
Because Parajew know what sells best, no matter how superficial or nonsensical. Altho I'm betting someone got slapped on the wrist for sunset invasion.

>>154014914
No, they didn't
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>>154014583
You can raid during it
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Crusader Kings 2 mp when
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Anyone have a link to a europa universalis 4 dlc unlocker?
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>turn ladoga and lake ilmen into sea provinces so Novgorod can be a merchat republic
>It still gets its ass kicked by Rus
Why does the AI suck at jewing so much?
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>>154015079
It's called Steam
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>>154014893
I'm here for Hearts of Iron and Vicky, I don't know shit about Crusader Kings 2.
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And why exactly is this not the perfect Europe?
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>>154015994
German exclave
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>>154015994
>bulgaria

Lad...
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>>154015994
German existence
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Daily reminder that Americans aren't white and are the opposite of based.
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>>154015994
>People still think Finland and Estonia are basically the same thing
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>tfw multicontinental wars because of you went full jew in your merchant republic run
feels good
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Threadly reminder that there's literally nothing wrong with international communism.
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>>154015994
Ireland isn't free
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>>154015994
>gross Italiums without Istria
>gross Germaniums without prussia
>gross hungariums with Slovakian, Serb and Romanian lands (szelkyfold excluded)
>albania exists
>gross egyptums
>kurdistan
>israel
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>>154016235
Americans are based

>>154016641
Communism is gay. Capitalism & democracy are based
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EUIV is vastly superior to EUIII desu senpai.
fite me scrubs
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Americans are white and based
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>>154016875
why would I? I agree.
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>>154016641
Amazing post
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>>154016875
t. mana PRO
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>>154015994
>taking away france's butifel hexagon
>dietsland rather than verenigd koninkrijk der nederlanden
>That bulgarbooism
disgusting
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>>154016829
>Communism is gay. Capitalism & democracy are based
this tbqh family
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Nope, Americans aren't white and are the opposite of based.
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>>154016875
but they both are kind of bland
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What Americans are:
▪white
▪based
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>>154017391
>tfw I'm American
>tfw I'm white
>tfw I'm based

truly the best feel
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>americans
>white
>based
Stop desu
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>>154017391
>>154017569
t. 60% carchoal black PRO
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nationality =x race

god you guys are faggots

>>154012610
You're playing as the terrorist from Nice, France? Is that some kinda mod? cool man
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>>154017569
t. Tyrone Hernandez Smith De Silva Chang.
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>>154017943
Nope, blond-haired blue-eyed with Scandi ancestry fampai, great projection though :^)
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>>154018062
>Scandi ancestry
white niggers
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Guys what do we do with Johan if he announces that Victoria 3 will not have pops
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>>154013345
Victoria 2 doesn't have them either. If only we could convert turks into fuel.
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>>154018062
>le projection meem
>play against some guy
>he's being gratingly obnoxious in chat
>ask him why is he so mad
>lol I'm not mad you're just projecting dude
>check his profile later on
>american

errytime
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>>154016235
t. triggered yurocuck shitskin
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Is it physically possible to do a WC in HPM as Britain?

Or are the communist rebels from going +25 infamy too much? I don't think it's possible.
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Germanics are barbarians and not based
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Can a lad post a link to the new ck2+?
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>>154018591
You just need to have high enough revanchism to get tons of jingoism to add more war goals, and if you become fascist later on I'm sure that you can annex civilized countries with less than 3 states in a single war, single CB.

It might be even easier than in vanilla Vic II with no expansions since occupying provinces gives you more warscore over time now.
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>>154018780
pls go mussie
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>>154018809
I'll upload it. Anyone know if it works with SMWH?
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>>154018862
Adding wargoals isn't a problem.

Rebels are the problem.
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>>154019003
Just fucking kill them all, it's not hard. Especially once you research the gas attack tech.

Keep your capital protected and you should never have any problems with rebels no matter how big their stacks are, that is, if you don't mind killing millions of your primary culture pops over 100 years. +500k rebel stacks are common if you genocide your minorities every 5 years, yet it never caused me any real problems.
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>>154018968
Think I found it lad

https://mega.nz/#!95URFTaT!LirgtvcrG1Bklmi_ze3v25gjAb70XOEcNAWepDZrGJU

Can you confirm it's the last version?
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>>154019198
gets a problem in india where you have several hundred million pops all becoming commie rebels

they siege faster than you can kill them
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Post your großest germaniums, /gsg/
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>>154019315
It is. Is it comptaible with SWMH tho? If not I'm sticking with HIP
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M E G A L I
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why does border-gore get so bad when you play the pre-hastings meme starts? is there a reason?
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>>154019834
>pre-hastings meme starts

What the fuck does that even mean?
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>>154019694
Racist pig
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>>154019834
Karl rarely ever forms Francia, especially since Reaper's Due. The West gets fucked by Muslims, where irl they were beaten back by legends like Charles Martel & Karl. And everywhere else is a clusterfuck, pretty accurate.
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>>154019834
The CM empire falling apart was very border gory, so was conversion to Christianity of eastern/northern Europe. Everything could have turned out much much different.
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>>154019952
>>154019970
so is this a believable world?
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>Turkish Free State
Also border gore
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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is it possible to play ck2+ with the hip map?
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>>154019932
? Greeks and Turks are literally of the same race
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I have kingdoms of norway and sweden. Norway has high crown authority and sweden medium. Empire has high crown authority.
Now jarl of Ostlandet declares de jure war on east geats jarl.
What the fuck? Is it bug or something?
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>>154020257
That's the SWMH mod. Not sure, want to find that out myself.
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>>154019694
Still mad they removed the ability to take individual provinces
Was there ever an explanation?
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>>154020215
Its free for grabs
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>>154020215
trebizond next, relatively high numbers of greeks there
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>>154020257
>>154020372
Q: Will you include SWMH?
A: No. We asked the SWMH team if we could and they weren't interested. We MAY eventually make it compatible, however.
From old ck2+ FAQ. Not in the game right now in any case.

>>154020460
Truce atm. But greek patriots are taking shit for me.
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>>154019694
Post border plans
Also are you postponing reforms because you want to genocide?
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>decide to go for a test run with japan to see how much of an effect colonial migrations and genocide can have
>start as the shogunate and try to start as an absolute monarchy
>annex outer manchuria in the 40s
>westernize+unite in the 50s
>annex korea in the 60s
>pass the healthcare reforms ASAP
>research the required techs and start to genocide my first pops in the 80s or so
>conquer the rest of manchuria in the 80s
>every 5 years, start another round of genocides
>my primary culture libtards get 7 militancy every time I do this so they just resort to fighting me over and over again
>every few years, up to 500k-1m of my own primary culture pops can easily end up being killed by the government
>seeing stacks of 500k rebels became a common sight later on
>during the 10s, I willingly become a fascist dictatorship so I can take care of militancy better by enacting and then revoking useless reforms
>try to get all of the fascist decisions and modifiers to reduce militancy but it was too late
>rebellions continue up to the end of the game
>fought no other wars
>end up with this pathetically small amount of colonial migrants, industrial score and total population since I had to kill millions and millions of my own pops who decided that fighting against the government every few years with zero chances of winning is a good idea

HPM will unironically defend this, because apparently IRL millions of primary culture pops in a given country fought and were killed by the government because said government decided to kill off their minorities, leaving them entirely unaffected.

You can see that my army was pathetically small, yet it was more than enough to deal with any rebels. I probably could have reduced revolt risk a bit if it were larger, but honestly, when your pops are getting +0,20 MIL from reform desire and 7 militancy every time you genocide, what will that do?

It's honestly just as bad as angry retarded vassals who fight for elective monarchy all the time.
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>>154020215
Why are you warring France and Russia?
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>>154020669
what governments can genocide and what rechs are needed
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>>154020634
Yes. Postponing political reforms for genocide.
>>154020751
Germany..
>>154020775
Absolute monarchy, communists, fascists.
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>>154020669
>HPM will unironically defend this, because apparently IRL millions of primary culture pops in a given country fought and were killed by the government because said government decided to kill off their minorities, leaving them entirely unaffected.


people in real life have morality and sympathy you fucking fascist sociopath, in case you've been spending too much time on 4chan
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>>154019917
The word meme is a meme. It doesn't mean anything anymore. Just something autists sometimes like to tack on to what may or may not be an otherwise normal post.
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>>154020893
kys libtard
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Okay, I just gave up as the egyptians against the turks, I'm going to give it a second try when their guard is down, but why did I keep the Levant? Aren't they suppose to get it?
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>>154021067
Liberals are based
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>>154021072
It's an event, it can take some time to fire
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>>154020872
Take Sudan too desu, late industry without rubber is a pain.
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>The Ottoman Empire must be kept strong.
kek
Rank 42 with 5 brigades.
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>>154019970
>The CM empire falling apart was very border gory, so was conversion to Christianity of eastern/northern Europe. Everything could have turned out much much different.
howso?
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kek thx wiz
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>>154020893
>people in real life have morality and sympathy you fucking fascist sociopath, in case you've been spending too much time on 4chan
>Japanese
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>>154020669
Basically, it seems like large scale revolutions (again, +500k-1m primary culture rebels every time) are absolutely unavoidable once you have high literacy and plurality. The militancy gain from reform desire alone (+0,20 MIL) will fuck you up.

Even if I avoided getting 100% literacy and plurality so my pops get less CON and reform desire, it doesn't fucking matter. Pops will end up getting huge amounts of militancy from the genocides, but if you combine it with the fascist decisions you might reduce it a bit, it will still be fairly shit though.

Keep in mind that I played as Japan, you get a modifier that gives you -0,05 MIL in your non-colonial provinces and I STILL HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS.

Dozens of huge revolts for over 60 years, rebels getting absolutely fucking BTFO every time but they will get back to it in a few years.

I think that the only real way to do this feasible well is to:

>play as a country that doesn't start with a lot of militancy of plurality
>don't ever fucking literalize
>become a fascist dictatorship ASAP so you can enact and revoke reforms all the time, reducing your militancy
>have an insanely large army which should reduce revolt risk to an extent

Otherwise, you'll end up suffering from the same shit I did: constant and futile large scale revolts, millions of primary culture pops getting killed every few years which means shit population growth and industrialization.

Obviously no primary culture pops of any country ever started constant (again, constant as in every few years) huge revolutions over the lack of reforms or genocide of minorities, knowing that every past generation has not only failed pathetically but even got themselves entirely killed.

>>154020775
You need to be an absolute monarchy, presidential dictatorship or proletarian dictatorship and get the Dogma of Hate (I think) invention. I think that you need to have a reactionary ruling party too, so it could leave the communists out.
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I want to play a megacampaign.

What games would do that best?

CK2 -> EU 3 or 4? -> Vicky 2 -> Darkest Hour or HOI3?
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>>154020070
>tfw I was a steamgroup regular around when /vg/ was formed and spent a lot of time there and in skype calls before the whole shitposting thing began
It all turned out pretty bad for me desu. I guess I can blame all my failings on turkslayer
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>>154021371
takbir
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>>154018279
>Guys what do we do with Johan if he announces that Victoria 3 will not have pops
Crash this franchise...with no survivors!
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>>154020893

Is this b8?
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All the balkans is covered in rebels. Half of the old Ottoman Empire is controlled by Greece. But hey keep it strong lads.
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>>154021587
Create the Irish caliphate mashallah
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>>154021856
I actually wanted to create a jewish merchant republic. But Allah wills it.
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>pick Old Gods start date and Navarra for shits and giggles, only 2 counties held by the """kingdom""" with a bunch of territory held by mudslimes
>notice marital ties to Asturias, form alliance
>marry my daughter to the king of Aquitane for another alliance
>Holy War the mudslimes for Aragon because YOLO, send chancellor to sow dissent
>some mudslime revolt breaks out and they get hit by TWO diseases at once

wew
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>>154021587
How did this happen?
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After the End 0.8 Released
http://www.mediafire.com/download/eu9tktobqqgdc9g/After_the_End_0.8.zip

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
After the End 0.8 Changelog

Compatible with CK2 2.6.1.1 and the Reaper's Due DLC
Changes to vanilla events have led to a huge performance boost

South America filled in with characters
South American religions are fully functional, though they do not have a lot of unique content
Retinue/cultural units added, should cover all of South America

Some new playable islands, mostly Brethren

A ton of custom dynasty CoAs for prominent families

Banking overhauled, it should be a lot less annoying to play as a banker
Bankers can declare punitive debt-wars against rulers who default on loans

Adjustments to the Redcoat invasion: troop composition changes, balance tweaks

Dramatic rebalance to all crusade target weights; crusade locations should make more sense

Some small American flavor events added
A few more holy orders, with associated events

Lots of bug fixes...
Succession and other law fixes
Fixed several crashes
Several terrain fixes and improvements

Does not yet include our version of the Black Plague, so enjoy your living rulers while you still can
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>>154022038
Some moslem came to my court as a medic, asked me to convert. Now I'm ded. Back to jewish ireland I guess.
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>>154021932
>jewish merchant republic
It's pretty fun. You can even keep Khazar culture after settling down so you can raid and destroy trading posts on the Silk Road so you can upgrade your own post at Antioch to a higher level.
Really should convert to Sephardi culture eventually though.
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>>154022143
What I wanted to do actually was making jews educate my children and slowly jewify the isles.
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>>154022021
Well that was easy.
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Were the visigoths goths?
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>>154022081
Just a suggestion, but when an invasion happens like the redcoats or the Russians, they should bring a new disease as well.
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rip nation in 3 2 1
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>>154022135
I hope you educated you children with the truth of Islam, kafir
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>>154020669
>>154021454
Just imagine how fucking ridiculous and unrealistic this scenario would really sound.

>be japanese factory worker in 1890
>live in a full welfare state, working hours are short, wages are good, pensions are good, NEETbux are good, healthcare is good and just about everything else is good except for political rights but it shouldn't really matter since I'm living in good economic conditions right?
>nope, apparently I should care for a bunch of koreans and manchurians in another part of my country who are genocided every few years, leaving me entirely unaffected
>this is combined with the fact that I can't vote
>all of this makes me seriously mad, how dare the government kill off useless minorities to create more lebensraum for us?
>4 large scale liberal revolutions already happened in this country and the government always won a total and absolute victory every time, killing millions of us every time (minorities never really fought the government) while the rebels never had ANY chance of winning
>as I walk to home from work one day I hear people saying that another million minorities were killed off
>rage intensifies
>join the libtard rebel army, said army having over 3m supporters
>a few weeks later we finally decide to overthrow the fucking oppressive government who ruins our lives by forcing us to live in a welfare state that actually cares about us japanese people
>organize under a 500k stack and reach tokyo, which is guarded by one 60k
>get attacked by the army which kills tens of thousands of us every day, while we manage to do next to zero damage to the government armies
>other rebel armies in the rest of the country suffer of the same fate
>inevitably get seriously injured during this battle
>millions of us got killed in this single rebellion, the government having achieved yet another total victory
>die from my wounds later

But don't worry, his son will surely be able to defeat the government in the next decade.
>>
>>154022597
Epic meme broseph
>>
>>154022597
You mean "hello rebirth of nation"
Also I hope its only mudslimes that you are killing
>>
>>154022081
My favorite mod. Thanks mate.
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>>154022652
>liberals and socialists wouldn't mind millions of people next door being systematically executed every five years
>no one cared about suffrage in the 19th and 20th century
Holy shit you're retarded.
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>>154020669
>we are liberals, we believe in freedom, the rights of man and democracy
>our genocidal government gives us welfare though so lets ignore our ideals while they shit on everything we believe in by oppressing us and killing millions of people I mean who cares about these faggots let the government kill everyone liberalism isn't about freedom democracy and the rights of men it's about getting good pensions
Do you understand how ideology works?
>>
I've unzipped after the end into Documents/Paradox Interactive/Crusader Kings II/mod yet nothing is showing up in the mod selection page at the start menu. What am I doing wrong?
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>>153992086
Didn't work
>>
Just started Hoi3 and have a few questions.

How many layers should I have in my OOB for a smaller country like Romania? I had 2 theaters, and each controlled 5 corps. Each corps controlled 3-5 divisions in adjacent provinces. Should I be keeping the divisions closer to the corps and putting in a couple more generals?

How does military automation work? Coming from HOI4, I assumed it's totally manual but there does seem to be some AI for troop movement.

Is there a way to automate I distribution without it fucking everything up? If I automate the sliders only it'll set everything to 0 except for my preference (production, supplies, etc) . If I set the entire production screen to AI it totally misses any sort of IC management and I end up with deficits.

Finally, should I bother with mods yet? Is there an HPM-like mod for Hoi3? I've heard black ice is fun but for experienced players only. Is HPP any good?
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How do you stop your vassals from declaring war on other nations on ck2?
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>>154023034
>still playing EU 3
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>>154022924
>>154022975
Christ those faggots are annoying HPM should make it possible to genocide them
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>>154023158
It used to be a Crown authority thing pre-Conclave, so I think it's probably some law you have to decide with your Council
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>>154022924
>hey we are socialists and care about the living conditions of the immigrants and poor in our country
>we believe in a better and more equal world where the employers don't exploit their workers like slaves
>like the liberals we also abhore slavery, that's a disaster
>but we shouldn't care about the systematic extermination of millions of people, that's dumb, fuck them

>>154023187
You can, there's a fucking purge decision.
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>>154023045
OOB should be as compact as possible to maximize leader skill. This means 5 divisions per corps 5 corps per army 5 army per army group and only one theater.

Don't use the automation for armies it is terrible. Just like in hoi4 the AI is retarded and doesn't know what to do. Do it manually or go back to Hoi4.

Auto sliders is fine it you set it to prioritize reinforcements or upgrades. It will however mess up with all sliders so either full control or none.

Vanilla is pretty good but Downfall is a good vanilla+ mod if you want some extra stuff. Then when you get gud get Black Ice. HPP is a mememod that crashes constantly and honestly isn't very interesting.
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>>154023034
Why is EU3 so much more aesthetic than EU4?
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What's the best administration for CK2? Late or Imperial?

Imperial seems like the logical choice, but seeing how many civil wars the Byzantines go through every decade makes me wonder
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>>154023249
>You can, there's a fucking purge decision
ok now I remember
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>>154022924
There were no large scale, CONSTANT rebellions organized every few years by primary culture pops in any country IRL, at least for the reasons that I cited earlier.

Millions and millions of people (who lived in godly economic conditions) being killed over decades because they decided to fight the government over something that didn't really affect them personally.

None of this shit EVER happened yet you're calling me retarded because "buaaa liberals should care about this and get themselves killed for no reason! :("

At most this would make sense if it happened ONE TIME ONLY, but not constantly when everyone should know that it's futile, and when millions of people already got killed.

Any country that organized genocides of minorities never suffered of this bullshit to THIS extent. You'll probably only be able to come up with far lesser examples, such as protests or single revolutions that had far less casualties. Again: millions of primary culture pops who lived in good economic conditions organizing and fighting in huge rebellions every few years, losing brutally every time.

If you somehow do manage to come up with anything, odds are that said primary culture pops didn't live in a full welfare state, so obviously poverty was a major factor there.

Sick of the r*ddit influence on this board. I bet that you're also retarded enough to enjoy participating in the 224th Byzantine War for Elective Monarchy.

Please just kill yourself you libtard.
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>>154022634
as is should be
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>>154023374
Yeah, Imperial is the way to go
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>>154023249
Wrong reply?
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>>154016267
You cannot come up with a feasible argument.

They're both finno-ugric race and their languages are similar enough to be mutually understandable.
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>>154022143
How does this trade map shit work? Can anyone break it down for me? I'm not sure if it's autistic or I am. Or maybe both.
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>>154023168
>>154023305
How do I fight Turk, I have Military Drill and was defending against smaller numbers who were attacking over a river, but still got my ass handed to me.
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>>154023598
Actual merchant republics and those who have placed trade posts on the Silk/Spice Road
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>>154023709
>How do I fight Turk
I have seen AI Castile kick Turks and take Anatolia, you must be really shit
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W-what happens if I borrow money from the Templars and don't pay them back?
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>>154023809
Can someone explain me this meme
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>>154023528
>Any country that organized genocides of minorities never suffered of this bullshit to THIS extent.
Yes because they purged any dissent and they would get shot, go to prison, a gulag or would escape your country if they complained. It's the same shit you are doing with them, you are shooting them all.

Having high militancy won't auto-cause a massive rebellion unless you have a massive amount of socialists and liberals and if you do, your dictatorship was already in a precarious condition and they aren't pissed only because of genocide.

Ideology doesn't work like "I have a good life so fuck ideology and other people", christ you are a complete retard.
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Why does cutting kaffir testicles make you release them?
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>>154023034
What version are you playing? Can you show trade map?
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>>154023978
idk, but there's a mod that fixes that
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>>154023283
Thanks! Only issue is if 8 don't have enough soldiers to fill a theater to the max, where should I have only 4 of something? Only 4 divisions per corps, 4 corps per army, etc?
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>>154023883
I conquered Anatolia and the Balkans with Byzantium by 1410 in EU4. 50 years is all it took for me to wipe the roaches out. If he can't do that he's fucking garbage.
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>>154023542
so Imperial got nothing to do with the Byzzis infighting? Is it due to them being Greek then?
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>>153996543
Since no one said it, the game is completely broken and you're guaranteed to stop playing after the first peace conference, if not before that. Oh and the war ends 90% of the time by 1941
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>>154024065
Only makes corps smaller if you don't have enough divisions. Never a reason to have more armies/army groups/theaters than you need.
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>>154024096
I am Greek
Anyway it has to do with everyone being frustrated about being a viceroy and a lot of claimants
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>>154024096
>Is it due to them being Greek then?
Yes
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>try to become Saoshyant
>Abbasids remember I exist and eat me

Is Karen in 867 my best shot at doing this?
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>>154024096
Yeah greeks do love their civil wars
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>>154023993
DW 5.2
What would trade map impact?
>>154024086
I'm new to EU and focusing on colonizing America
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>>154023917
>Ideology doesn't work like "I have a good life so fuck ideology and other people"

This, and this is why popular dissent was a common thing throughout germany during the third reich. Oh, wait...
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I'm fairly new to /gsg/ and CK2 in general, could anyone help me?

I started at the earliest start available (867?) in HIP as the Duke of Brittany. I eventually expanded enough to usurp Kingdom of Asturias, West Francia, and formed my own Kingdom of Brittany.

What is the best way to proceed from here? Destroy the two Kingdoms I don't want as my primary title? Form my own empire? Proceed with them in existence and convoluting inheritance?
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HIP updated to fix some bugs early this morning FYI. Supposedly added new coptic portraits as well.
hip.zijistark.com/releases/latest.pl
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>>154023917
But you already get access to modifiers that set up a totalitarian state where dissent is dealt with while not killing any of your pops: yet this shit still happens while it didn't happen IRL.

IRL they dealt with any dissent by what you said, but this wasn't coupled with any of the bullshit that I was suffering of because it's logical: when any dissidents get BTFO, they can't think about starting a huge rebellion all the time.

In the game you can and will have both things, which again, makes no fucking sense since it didn't happen IRL. You literally just proved my fucking point and don't realise it at all.

And high militancy (+7) will pretty much always cause massive rebellions within months because even just a small percentage of libtards or socialists in a pop means that they can join a rebel army. Massive amount? About 10-20% is enough. Might be just 10%.

Holy shit, you don't even know how the game mechanics work at all, yet you try to call me a complete retard? Play the game for a few more years.

You don't know how anything works yet you think you know shit, I think the only retard here is you.

Again, kill yourself or fuck off to r*ddit and never come back.
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>>154024435
Show map of Europe with trade map. I want to try to play EU3 again and I want to find out if trade is still fucked
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Should I do jewish ireland or build the caliphate?
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>>154024596
empire
get viceroyalties law enabled
Hand out the viceroyalties
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>>154024684
idk
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>>154024737
Build the caliphate and remove jew
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>>154024776
Looks better than when I played. When I played cost of new center of trade was like 0.5 shekels, and practically every nation had one.
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>>154024776
Just restart 2bh this is JUST tier
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GOING TO MAKE ALEXANDER PROUD
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>>154024776
Also does your game crash often?
>>154025026
let him be he is obviously new to EU3
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Is it normal to be good at Vic II and CK2, but horrible at any EU?

Is this autism?
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>>153998007
It doesn't have one, winner takes all
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>>154024443
It's not like they tried to kill Hitler a few times or that nazism was hugely popular right, I mean people didn't give a fuck about their ideology.
Also
>le no dissent in nazi germany myth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler


>>154024672
You kill your pops and no government is free of dissent. You can silence it, but it never goes away.

>hey can't think about starting a huge rebellion all the time.
They do. Look at the 20 of July Plot. It only failed because they didn't kill Hitler and in the confusion the army did shit.

Opposition and armed groups formed, but they were crushed by the police. You are doing basically the same shit.
> In Munich in 1942, university students formed the White Rose resistance group. Its leaders, Hans Scholl, his sister Sophie Scholl, and professor Kurt Huber were arrested and executed in 1943 for the distribution of anti-Nazi leaflets.
You are doing the same shit, you are arresting them and killing them. Since we don't have a "secrete police/service" minigame, the closest to what happened is your army executing them. It's certainly better than the "nothing should happen socialists don't care about genocide" you are suggesting not to mention it's not only fascists that can do genocides.

Stop being a retarded, learn how ideology works and get good and stop crying you need to deal with rebels because of something YOU decided to do. Your actions have consequences, learn to deal with them.
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>>154025092
Just don't go to Afghanistan.
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>>154025161
Not at all.
>>154025026
Tell me how to git gud
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>>154025092
Does persia have good RGOs?
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>>154025360
some coal
gets oil late in the game, but the provinces have low pops
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>>154025269
You do know how words work, yes?

There was no popular dissent in nazi germany.
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My first campaign in CK2. How am I doing?
Started as Harold and quicked the frenchies and the norgies out of my island.
The mongols have reformed tengri and can now call holy wars. I'm scared (they took hungary through one)

>inb4 blobbing into spain
I plan to create the empire of hispania and give it to someone from my dinasty once the kebab is removed
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>>154024672
Just wait for HPM to come over and tell him then, if anything it would be more reasonable to increase consciousness (so people who don't follow the government's ideology look at the genocides and remember this is not what they're supporting). I agree that millions of people being part of literal revolts is retarded. But saying that they shouldn't care about sufferage and genocides because 'they live in a welfare state' is ridiculous.
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>>154025360
The best desu, lots of cotton, coal, iron and oil and tea late game.
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>>154025269
There's a big difference between offing a few prominent anti-regime individuals to killing off half a million people.

Stop being so fucking retarded.
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>>154025563
>But saying that they shouldn't care about sufferage and genocides because 'they live in a welfare state' is ridiculous

To be honest most of the time no one will do anything as long as they themselves have decent lives.
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>>154025657
Yea late game rebellions are more kin to civil wars than just a rebellion
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>>154025557
le blobbing meme is the stupidest shit meme of /gsg/ anyway so no big deal
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>>154025679
That's what you get for playing UK
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>>154022270
Old Gods start date is a meme.
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>>154025840
t. /r/eu4
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>>154025538
You fucking /pol/tards spend so much time drinkign the cool-aid you literally can't see anything else.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/143583.Popular_Opinion_Political_Dissent_in_the_Third_Reich
>>154025657
You don't kill everyone you fight. That's not how battles work. Nevertheless Staling sent more than a million people to die in the gulags. If otu think you crush dissent by being nice you are completely retarded.

If your government has half a million liberals, it's not exactly like nazi germany and free of dissent.
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>>154025942
>if you do anything but restore historical borders for your nation and every other one you are playing this role-playing game wrong and it's triggering
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>>154022924
>>liberals and socialists wouldn't mind millions of people next door being systematically executed every five years
Socialists wouldn't tbqh
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>>154025963
>can't even spell Stalin
This is the cancer grandimod brings here
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>>154026152
>Completely BTFO
>Tries to ad hominem by hanging to a typo
wew
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>>154022975
>Do you understand how ideology works?
No he doesn't because modern liberalism is dead. This is all people know or care about now.
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>>154026109
The US should have done that then, socialists care about slavery but not about genocide so they should have just genocided all niggers, I'm sure no one would care.
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>>154025963
Have you read that book yourself? Cause it does not seem that you read the previous links you gave. In which said that

>Approximately 77,000 German citizens were killed for one or another form of resistance
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>>154025092
but Alexander was a Bulgarian
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>>154025307
Please tell me how to get good at EU3
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>>154026395
Post pops
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>>154025269
>It's not like they tried to kill Hitler a few times or that nazism was hugely popular right, I mean people didn't give a fuck about their ideology.

>you will never be a promising officer that skyrockets through the ranks out of natural talent and love for his country
>you will never try to save it from itself by killing a mad Austrian junkie who has outlived his usefulness
>you will never be Rommel
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>>154026386
>People weren't killed by it
>They preferred to emigrate or not say anything
>That means popular resistance didn't exist, so why my millions of dissenter are rebelling?

If your country isn't as fascist as nazi germany was, if liberalism and socialism are hugely popular to the point that millions rebel, why are you complaining about dissent and why are you comparing yourself to a country that really isn't like the one you are running in the game?
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this is triggering my autism. I don't think it's supposed to be there is it? Should I fix it?
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>>154025269
>comparing assassination plots and small scale resistance to +1m rebel armies every few years
>thinking that the armed forces using gas attacks to kill said huge rebel armies every few years gets even close to a secret police organization executing a few possibly influential dissidents

lad...

The reform desire militancy gain is far too excessive, so is the instant militancy gain for socialist and liberal pops when you genocide.

You could just reduce this MIL gain for both scenarios to some extent. But actually justifying all of this is absolutely retarded.

Or you could do like in CK2: every time there's a national revolt, your vassals get an opinion bonus. You could do the same in Vic II: every time you win a large rebellion, you get a large MIL reduction over a few years, so they won't start this whole thing up again in a few months.

Killing rebel pops does reduce some of your MIL, but it's just a temporary loss and they'll slowly regain all of it again. If for instance they get +0,20 from reform desire and -0,20 from this new modifier, that's something.

Implementing more dissent events instead of "hurr we rebel nao" could be a good idea too. Or reduce local security effectiveness if there's a lot of militancy, the security forces would have to deal with far more dissent.

>>154025563
A few ideological pops should probably care, another thing is if they can actually do shit about it. CON gains would definitely be good, but poverty was a major factor in most of the rebellions in the past so the MIL and CON reductions from the vanilla game for social reforms should be reimplemented.

It does sound feasible that pops in a welfare state would get less mad over time, they're living in good conditions after all. Both being entirely apathetic or caring so much you're willing to get yourself killed multiple times is dumb, at least for liberals and socialists. Others would probably give zero shits or support this (it's already implemented to some extent)
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>>154025557
>1368 to get to that from Godwinsson start
meme/10
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>>154025963
>he just links some fucking book

fucking really? As I've already said, there wasn't any popular dissent, there weren't any mass strikes, people wouldn't go to the streets to riot, there wasn't any civil disobedience even when the red army tanks started smashing their way through berlin.

>Nevertheless Staling sent more than a million people to die in the gulags

Over a time period of 30 years, retard. You probably kill off more people in 5 years in vicky.


But anyway, the whole thing is a fucking moot point, how the fuck would japanese citizens even be aware of what was happening in manchuria or korea?
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>>154026607
Because its broken to the core
Even if you enact every single reform in the game you still get rebels
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>>154026694
It's my first campaign you fucking autist
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>>154025710
>To be honest most of the time no one will do anything as long as they themselves have decent lives.
That's true. Most rebellions are caused by a hardliner minority.
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>>154026650
>comparing assassination plots and small scale resistance to +1m rebel armies every few years
Then please, do post your pops and show us how many liberals and socialists there are in your country. I'm sure there your country with millions of dissenters will be as homogenous as nazi germany. I'm sure Japan with all its territory has as much fascism as germany that lost WW1.
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>>154026540
This depresses me.
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>>154026318
>The US should have done that then, socialists care about slavery but not about genocide so they should have just genocided all niggers, I'm sure no one would care.
Socialists probably could have gotten behind a mass deportation to Liberia
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>he doesn't have an empower council

Fucking despotic runts
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>>154026750
Cause that's how ideology works, no matter how many reforms you have, people still think the government isn't good enough.

>>154026650
>they'll slowly regain all of it again
They gain it because they don't want to be oppressed.
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>>154026395
No Pakistan or Afganistan. Your work is not finished. Alexandros Megas is counting on you to revive his dream.
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>>154026521
is it too late to white peace out of the war? You should check the enemy's max morale during the next battle and make sure you have no terrain penalties. Maybe ask Algiers for military access so you can get a better spot to fight in and maybe bait the Turks over to one of your other occupied provinces. Fighting them while disembarking from ships isn't going to work out too well
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>>154026696
>Over a time period of 30 years, retard. You probably kill off more people in 5 years in vicky.
>waaahh my video game doesn't work exactly like real life

>how the fuck would japanese citizens even be aware of what was happening in manchuria or korea?
You think you can genocide millions of people and no one would know?
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>>154026905
>questioning divine right
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Bogomils >>> Catholic/Orthodox runts

Paulicans >>>> Coptic pawns
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>>154026832
You must Hellenize them. Start by forcing all your most prominent cabinet members to marry Persian QTs.
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>>154027051
>You think you can genocide millions of people and no one would know?
He probably thinks all those Germans at the time saying they had no idea what happened to the people in the ghettos were telling the truth.
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>>154026984
>>
>>>/int/64526921
>tgruica redpilling /int/
Proud of my boy to be honest
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>>154027334
Madman!
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>>154027334
where da Baktrian womens at
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>>154027334
Post reforms
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>>154026696
>how the fuck would japanese citizens even be aware of what was happening in manchuria or korea?

This is where the freedom of press reform (and maybe public meetings) could be improved, it's assumed that most extermination camps and practices are kept as a relative secret, so if it's happening in the other part of the country it's hard for the rest to figure out what really was going on, ESPECIALLY if the government has total or partial control over the press.

However if the government doesn't have enough control over the press eventually some infiltrated rebel involved in the genocide could leak information to a newspaper agency, which is how the rest of the citizens and other countries learn about what happened.

Said infiltrated rebel probably wouldn't be able to spread that information very well without the help of a willing newspaper agency.

So basically, less infamy gain for genocide, less MIL gains if the people don't know too well about what's happening?

This would probably make state/censored press too powerful unless free press gets other benefits that I could probably make up sometime. More CON for democratic New World states is typically good (since it gives you more plurality and liberals/socialists for reforms that give you more immigration), so that could be raised further.
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>>154027446
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>>154025092
t. Pavlos
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>>154027346
Ttgruica
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>>154027051
>the arguement is that sometihng doesn't make sense
>waaahh my video game doesn't work exactly like real life

You should honestly kill yourself, but thanks for finally admitting you were wrong.


>You think you can genocide millions of people and no one would know?

The german people didn't know. The average nip is still fucking unaware of the atrocities their army commited in china, come the fuck on man, propaganda is a powerful tool.
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>>154027534
Neat, only missing bankrupcy desu
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>>154027049
The Turks want to take land from me in their Jihad, but I've pretty much let them take Africa, not that I care too much about losing <1 income provinces.
How do I check Enemy max morale? I tried to hover over their morale bar, but no numbers came up. Pic related is the instant battle was joined when they attacked me.
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>>154027668
>the arguement is that sometihng doesn't make sense
What you want makes even less sense.

>The german people didn't know.
Wew I was baited until now, 10/10
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>>154027508
Although said infiltrated rebel could probably just flee to another democratic country and leak this information to them, which is how the rest of the countries know what happened.

And if a pop of the country visits the democratic one and reads a newspaper, he too could know about what happened and then return to his country and slowly spread this information, which again, can be hard without using mass media.

It should neither be totally secretive, or totally public. Depending on your freedom of press and borders policy, you can have a certain degree of failure or success when it comes to keeping this information secret or well suppressed.
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I need advice because my game has become an extremely believable world and is a blobfest.

My land:
>(most of) Duchy of Upper Burgundy, (most of) Kingdom of Sicily, Kingdom fo Jerusalem

My dynasty:
>Carpathia (Catholic)
>Holy Roman Empire (Orthodox)

It was a regular Aargau start from 1066, I started working my way into southern Spain and all of a sudden the HRE blobbed into Hungary and continued east, becoming the Empire of Carpathia or some shit. Then the HRE split off again and inherited France somehow and is blobbing into Iberia. I got independence from Carpathia (I stayed under them, not the HRE) with a few others in an independence war once I got the strength of Jerusalem and some powerful Dukes in the faction, and now Europe looks absolutely disgusting.

Carpathia and the ERE are both hereditary succession and the emperors are clousins. The HRE is a mess and elective. Carpathian emperor and ERE empress also both have a claim on both of my kingdoms.

So what the fuck should I do?

Swear fealty to the HRE once again and work my way to become emperor/have dynastic control? If I swear fealty to the ERE I'm worried they'll just try to strip Jerusalem from me and I'll have huge modifiers because of religion. Even though they're Habsburgs in charge now, they're Orthodox and I don't know how I could convert them or even inherit the empire.
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>>154027718
These are morale values when I get my reinforcements
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>>154027803
Also here is the east.

I've never played a game with blobs like this yet or even got really into a campaign and I'm really unsure as to what to do now.

Originally I assumed it would be plain sailing and I could just blob into Italy and Jerusalem under the HRE and eventually fight against or somehow inherit the ERE and gain control, but the Carpathia meme has fucked everything.

I've got the ERE under dynastic control, but what's the easiest way of then inheriting it? Marrying into it once again or using claims or what?
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>>154027998
I won this time. I don't really know how, but something worked out, I suppose.
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>>154027743
>nuh uh you're wrong

Honestly man, just do the world a favour and kill yourself.
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>>154028173
Rolls
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>>154027803
Also apologies for the typos, here is a horse chancellor.
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>criticise literally anything paradox do on /r/paradoxplaza
>get banned
boy memeth really is impartial
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>>154028181
t. man who believes germans didn't know nothing and as long as you aren't killing your own people no one would care
>>
Also, rebels and genocides need FAR more flavour. I'm sure that right now they have next to nothing.

Currently you get rebels and it's just that, flavourless rebel armies start to organize and you get no events directly related to them. Once the fighting starts you also get no related events.

More events that can kill pops or reduce militancy among rebel pops (or just high militancy ones if the game doesn't detect it well) would be good. Right now there's somewhat similar events, but typically for small scale unrest or protests. There needs to be more events for bigger stuff, with bigger effects to suppress pops well or encourage more pops to join the rebel effort if you fuck up.

And for genocides, it's literally nothing. Just wait.

Similar to justifying CBs, information about a genocide could slowly leaked to the rest of the country and world if you didn't take good precautions (press freedom and border policy), even if you are careful anything could realistically happen.

Depending on how well the people know this, pops will gain more militancy, you'll lose prestige or you gain more infamy.
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>>154028181
You react pretty strongly over a grand strategy game tbqhwy familia.
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>>154028359
>It's a "the Jews were Germans" episode
My house has spiders in, that doesn't make them Human.
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>>154027998
maybe the reinforcements joined too late or something, because the first army will still take the brunt of the morale hit and cause the battle to end sooner. Could be you were rolling unluckily too.

I once had a million troops lose to about 250k because they weren't all joined in one army, and the one that arrived first got pummeled. Also we fought in mountains and they were defending.

Once you get to land tech 18 I think, you get riflemen and can really start to steamroll the enemy as long as they haven't reach it as well.
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I'd usually ask you to post games
but you're all actually talking about games
so yeah
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>>154028480
That's not what he implied.
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>>154028348
stop tacking xdxdxdxdxd and emojis onto your dumb shit outside of 4chan you autist, it makes your points seem like shitposts

removing 'le', xDxD, ebin, 'meme', etc from your posts will make you seem less retarded than you actually are
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>>154027534
top Hellene tbqh
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>>154028348
You have to go back.
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>>154028653
>he
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>>154028653
My reading comprehension ain't so good, /pol/ is about as good as I can read and even then lots of it goes over my head.

Seriously though, I've just entered the thread and thought it was another one of the /his/lit/qa/r/paradoxplaza raiders we've been dealing with.
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>>154028480
>reading comprehension
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>>154028359
the subhuman nips from century ago certainly fucking wouldn't
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>>154027082
Buddhism > Sunni Islam > Cathar > Bogomilist > any other shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholishits
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>>154028383
FUCK YOU
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>>154028873
Gnosticism>Indo-European Paganism>>>>Dharmic religions>Christianity>>>>Islam
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>>154028873
>>154027082
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>>154029014
Protestantism is white and based
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>>154029014
*burns a witch on a stake*

wow so progressive
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How do I even get rid of artisans in HPM?
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>>154025923
I thought Charlemagne start date was the meme?
Or is every start date some level of meme?
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Is it Armenias duty to conquer Georgia in ck2? Feel like Armenia should be Edessa to Azerbaijani
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>>154029132
Protestants are hick inbred rednecks who worship in barns though
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>>154029014
>Portugal
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>>154029270
Every pre 1066 start date is full meme, but generally the earlier the start date the memier it is.
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>>154029251
Artisans have always been a problem in Vic II because they keep existing along craftsmen in a very industrialized society, later in the game.

They just don't have a high enough promotion/demotion rate to disappear fast enough so you can't really get rid of them without having to kill rebel brigades, just keep taxes for middle strata low so they can actually produce shit.

They can actually be useful if they build lategame stuff if you don't have any related factories for them.
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>>154029248
>rips head of church out of ground
>brings his corpse into a court
>holds a fucking legal battle with the corpse
>take off the withered rags that used to be his pope clothes
>cut the fingers off his now naked corpse
>bury it again
>dig the now fingerless corpse back up
>tie stones to the corpse
>throw it in a river, to infect the water of 50% of Italy
Yeah, Catholicism really is civilised.
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>>154029270
You're on 4chan everything has been a meme since 2008
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>>154028348
>unironically being and admitting to being cancer from le /reddit/
>>>r/pedophilepride
Go the fuck back, cancer, and stay there.
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>>154029649
>You're on 4chan
Buddy, this is Reddit.
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>>154029673
>>154028751
i cant guise im banned xDxD
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>>154029695
Is there even a difference at this point
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>>154029673
paedophiles are white and based
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>>154029673
>reddit
Based

>pedophiles
Based
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Should I try eating all of Italy?
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>>154029927
God no.
well, maybe Sardinia.
>>
Will someone please explain to me why Yugoslavia can accept Albanians but not Bosniaks lmao
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>>154030210
They're just radical like that

;)
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>>154029759
treddit
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>>154028285
Huh.
Aragon thought it would be a good time to declare war on me, as the Ottoman navy had me trapped in North Africa. However, the Ottomans didn't really want to fight much anymore, so I gave them one province and released another small North African province and ended the war.
Then the Portuguese didn't want to join Aragon, but my French allies did, so now I have everything of theirs but Barcelona.
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>>154029927
>blobbing in italy
>blobbing
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>>154029012
>Indo-European Paganism
name a single universally agreed upon PIE god other than The Day Sky-Master of the household
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>>154030494
>Restoring the Byzantine Empire
>Blobbing
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>>154030606
>blobbing over something that's dead for centuries and where they are virtually no greeks
>worse, over an area that the byzantine empire didn't held for a century and not even set foot for more than a millenium
Yes, it's a text case of blobbing.
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>>154030728
Justinan had it only 1400 years ago, rightful Byzantine lands lad.
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Is turning whole of the byzantine kings bloodline black the greatest pleasure in a kangz campaign?
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Haha I'm really glad to be reminded of anti-Manchu sentiment literally every few weeks to a month.

Otherwise I might forget. :)
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>>154030838
Right, it's so close to the victorian era.
Why don't you get some colonies in africa instead of mindless blobbing?
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So, should i try out that dominion 4 game or is it just a meme?
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>>154031104
why not both
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>>154030728
>>blobbing over something that's dead for centuries and where they are virtually no greeks
D'Azeglio's "Italy has finally been made; now we are to make the Italians" maxim was felicitous in the 19th century, creating some greeks many hundred years earlier should be much easier, especially because of how dumb stupid fast culture spread is in ck2
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>>154029132
Are you literally autistic?
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>>154031186
Autists are based
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>>154031139
ck2? Earlier?
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>>154030953
Wait what?
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>>154029402
aren't protestants literally the highest IQ europeans though
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Nothing like finally ending a bad meme. Lasted 600 years too long.
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>>154031247
I got it mixed up with that Byzantium ck2 image gomen
In that case just make the Greeks after making your Grossbyzantiums
and modding the game so genocided states have boosted liferating
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>>154031375
Are they? I'm American and Catholics are overwhelmingly more civilized here than Protestants.
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>>154031132
Because i'm alreadt downloading EU3 and FtG and i only really want to waste my time on it if its good.
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>>154031354
Madman, he actually joined my crusade
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>>154031478
>Grossbyzantiums
>not using based letter ß
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>>154029014
western european exceptionalism dates back centuries, to at least the 1500's and probably before the 1300's. italy's GDP per capita exceeded China's during this time and other western european nations followed - BEFORE colonialism.

who knows what the exact selection for our high IQ was though.
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>>154031663
>-27
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>>154031668
you mean Гьpoбъвизaньтијyмъcъ
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>>154031553
i guess not all protestants are created equally. the american south types are largely scots-irish which are an inferior group.

but the anglo-saxons and other germanics...they are supreme.
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>>154029332
Nigga I always go for an Armenian Empire in EU IV and in CK II. One time(don't have caps) I reunited the Eastern churches with Armenia, by conquering Constantinople and Egypt.
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>>154031995
>not Гьpѳбъвѣзaньтѣјyмъcъ
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>>154031995
Slavs get out, this is a BASED ANGLO general.
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>>154032194
No, this is /hayk/ general
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>>154032157
there shouldn't be a yer after the first G anyway because OCS permits plosive-liquid consonant clusters so the law of open syllables isn't violated (cf. grob/гpoб in most every modern Slavic language), I just added it because meme letter

Where'd you get all those yats from tho
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>>154010880
>king of sexland
>>
fix your fucking game podcat
>>
>CK2 question
How can one have ugric faces but with western style holdings?
Maybe even add holygfx units?
>having wooden castles instead of stone castles in the year of 1297 just because you're finnish or lithuanian
Please help,thanks in advance.
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>>154032408
>implying I didn't just add meme letters either
also, u got a problem with me yats, bub? aren't they redundant with и or am i retarded.
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>>154032746
stone hasn't been invented in finland until 1934
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>>154033096
How the hell can someone "invent" stone?
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>>154033274
>being this stupid
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>>154033274
GET THE FUCK OUT REEEEE
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>>154032765
no yat (ѣ) was probably originally pronounced like the vowel in cat, the only languages which consistently have /i/ as a reflex of it are the Ikavian dialects of BCS and Ukrainian

What could be the cause of your confusion is i/и, though to my knowledge nobody uses both today. The first and earliest version of Cyrillic was a real mess, partly because of the fact that it included many redundant letters in an attempt to reflect the Greek origins of certain words and partly because it was devised for and suited to a particular dialect of Late Common Slavic and was not perfectly suited for more distal Slavic scribes, especially visible in more extreme cases like the Novgorod Birch Bark Letters, which played quite fast-and-loose with Cyrillic orthography, though not nearly to the same extent as how western Europeans and Catholic Slavs had to mangle the Latin alphabet to suit their needs.
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>>154033096
Rediscovered*
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Wow Johan and crew are having so much fun playing EU4 on the paradox stream.


Sort of makes me think that I'm wasting my time with an outdated piece of shit game like V2 and maybe I should get with the times.
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name my caliphate
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>>154033712
Bruce
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>>154033712
Kurek
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>>154033712
Al-Shinfeinu min Al-potato
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>>154033712
Northern Ireland
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>>154033712
don't care
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>>154033712
Al-Begorrah Caliphate
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And so the last son of Salah ad-Din ibn Ayyub dies one year before the hundredth anniversary of his ascension to Emir of Alexandria. The grandson of the current Badshah climbs the throne with one ambition: become Caliph.

>>154033712
Chaisil Caliphate.
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Have I made Alexander proud?
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>>154034068
No.
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>>154034068
t. cheat pro
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>>154034061
He already IS Caliph, isn't he?
>is with the Houris
WEW
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>>154034146
Yup sure costs a lot of infamy to eat primitive nations
>>
I just want to state for the record that vanila CK2 is inferior version. I don't give a fuck if you play HIP or CK2+ it's your damn game, but don't play vanila, you are denying yourself fun.
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>>154029823
>>154029868
>unironically being a criminal
>unironically encouraging degeneracy
Public hangings of pedos, when?
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>>154034174
No, he's a Badshah. The caliph is someone else.
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>>154034068
How the fuck are you still #7 when you've conquered basically half the world?
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>>154034243
Same goes for every Paradox release. I never played EU/CK without mods
>>
HPM is white and based
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>>154034340
not enough liquor factories
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>>154034068
t. Seleucid
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>>154034340
Because it is all shit and genocide.
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>>154034340
Economics - he build an empire around sand castles, meanwhile Britain kept spamming their factories.
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>>154034338
Can you be an Emperor-tier Muslim without being a Caliph? I didn't even know that was possible.

>>154034243
The saving grace of all paradox games is that they are moddable. Hoy and Vicky suffer from this because for some reason they lack all that many mods.
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>>154033469
oh you're absolutely right, it's i/и that i was mixing it up with. yeah noone uses both now, but my slavknowledge is about limited to pre-commie-language-reform russian.

>novgorod bark script
those were cyrillic? i always thought those were some kind of co-opted viking runes, shows how much i know.
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>>154034451
In HIP the Caliphate is a duke-tier title.
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>>154034579
>that sister
>that secondary wife
>that fatass caliph
Yeah uh see this is why I use anime portraits.
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>>154034275
There's literally nothing wrong with fucking children, especially if they're male.
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>>154034392
t.Riograndese AfroLatino
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>>154034694
t. Gr*k
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>>154034492
>co-opted viking runes
the vikings themselves didn't use runes for anything but incising on swords even though they were first created back when Proto-Germanic was a thing, which makes it a technically attested language
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>>154034678
Or just use CPR like a normal person, anime portraits are garbage
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>>154034798
Vikings had those runestones though didn't they
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HARAM
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>>154034881
I don't have that fucking South Indian Portraits for some reason so CPR won't install. Also last time I used it, it didn't particularly get rid of the tendency of the fat gene to completely dominate for some reason nor did it actually make people significantly less garbage looking. It was an improvement but it wasn't really much.

>>154034983
Explain to me why you're playing an Islamic Ireland.
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>>154035064
Because I'm bored. And thought Irish caliphate sounds better than Jewish Irish Republic
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>>154034939
I guess, though they were only slightly less fragmentary than sword inscriptions and just as full of proper names
I don't know if the short-lived period during which northern Russian nobles identified as Norse even had them see any use in Russia
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>>154035196
Well I mean I know the Varangians basically carved runic graphitti in Constantinople.
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>>154035141
>hehe le funny religion on country that isn't religion run
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>154035385
hehe le elitist mems XD
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>woman hating feminist heresy
???
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Where can I download the latest patch (2.6.1.1) for CK2?
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>>154035385
>having fun in a game is reddit now
please leave now fucking mindless parrot
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>>154035478
on steam you pedophile
>>
which country is fascist in ck2???
>>
any chance u guys know how to fix the error writing save game error?

>>154035478
Pastebin
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>>154035141
A pagan one would be better desu
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>>154035478
Is the OP link's place not updated?
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>>154035643
But you know - Irish green, Islamic green. It's fitting
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>>154035478
http://hip.zijistark.com/releases/latest.pl
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>>154035546
>ahistorically having fun in a history game isn't fun
I upvoted your Ulm world conquest by the way.
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>>154021286
>We must keep the Muslims strong to prevent the Orthodox Christians from expanding into Orthodox Christian land
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>>154021371
>Sigh... time to light the fire.
Based paradox.
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Reverse Armenian genocide
>>
I have a huge stuttering issues on i5-4670k/gtx760, all speeds. It is fine while on pause. Anyone encountered it? And yes, I googled it and checked dev's site.
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>>154036393
Did you gas by religion or what?
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>>154036484
Forgot, it is EU4.
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>>154036610
Yes all Sunni Muslims must die
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>>154036484
>coming to gee ess gee for help
Literally why?







































clear map cache
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>>154036730
Cause why not.
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>>154036393
oy vey how did you kill 6 million of our people? I'm suing for reperation for the 60 million. I will have my money for the 600 million goy. Never forget the 6 billion gorillion roaches that died in the lolocaust.
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>>154036005
You seem like one of those retards that has more fun in shitposting and changeownering than in playing and discussing game
Also I think you meant
>historically* having fun in a history game isn't fun
can't even greentext without saying exactly the opposite of what you want to say lel
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>>154037405
Upvoted, lad. Really enjoying your Jan Mayan world conquest, don't let the railroading micromanagers get you down.
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>>154037669
>resorts to parrot shitposting
really sensing your damage control me lad
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>>154037854
LOVING your ryukan spring aar, lad, really nice to see how things would have been different if Ryuku conquered the world.
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Sicily is back in the hands of the faithful and, to compete with the republics that waged war against us, a new one was created.
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>>154038001
>>154037854
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>>154038001
>playing a game about alt-histories but being autistic about enforcing real-life history
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>>154038162
>>154038098
>sunni ireland in the 11th century is plausible alt history
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>Just married her.
>She's already better than all my other wifes.
Wish I could make her my first wife.
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>>154038257
>plausible alt history
There are two types of playthroughs - 'realistic' ones and meme ones. Both of them are valid.
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>>154038430
>meme playthroughs are valid
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>154038257
>>154037854
Refer to this post for all your follow-up quality rebuttals as well
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>>154038397
Persians are a cute! A CUTE!
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what the hell is the joke?
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>>154038808
Thoss are called ottomans.

Gonna start a new CK II playthrough as a Zoroastrian in the East Caucasus. Gonna fuck all my sisters tebehe, wish me luck playing the Cletus Dynasty.
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>>154038257
Sunny irish count is plausable alt history. Irish count conquiering ireland is plausible alt history.
Sunny Ireland is plausable. Never would have happened, but it is plausible.
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Woah that came out of nowhere. Based Sweden.
>>
question to hearts of iron 3:

do you put your air force into the command structure?

i tried it but it created a 2 star HQ. creating a new HQ for two of the 2 star HQs resulted in a 1 star HQ.
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>>154038808
There's a type of furniture called an Ottoman Footrest, colloquially referred to as an Ottoman.

This joke is fucking ancient.

I think Jerry Seinfeild said it in like season one of Seinfeild.

>The Ottoman Empire! A whole empire dedicated to putting up you feet! How great is that?
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>>154038430
>>154038630
>>154038679
in what game
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>>154038808
You must be 18+ to use this website.
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>>154037037
>>154036730
>>154036393
Apparently, some dlc is causing lag. Turning them all off really reduced stutter. Anon, what is the shittiest, bloatiest dlc?
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>>154039052
CK2 at least bother to read what you're quoting
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>>154039090
Same goes for you.
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>>154038992
You can attach them but no special HQ for them. So if anything advisable to attach to Army Group HQ or in your words 4 star hq.
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>>154038910
Pfff. Palying as a 60 years old Shahinshah, banging (and actually impregnating) my attractive genius heir daughter is priceless.
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>>154038974
dude you got -9906.2 wtf...
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>>154039229
>no u hehehehhe
see >>154039090
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>>154039243
thank you! I'm gonna read up the correct terms, too.
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>>154039437
That's not much in 1920.
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>>154038257
>sunni ireland in the 11th century is plausible alt history
"sunni" is a social construct. the only group is humankind.
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>>154038943
>Never would have happened, but it is plausible.
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>
So, how desperate is this guy for (You)s?

>>154039403
You can fuck your daughter? Shit nigga, I'm naming my dynasty Trump.
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>>154039437
I realize my money stockpile is too big so I stop taxing the poor then I realize I'm out of money so I retax the poor. A healthy middle ground is for losers.
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>>154039721
>this guy
???
>>
I picked up the trade ideas as russia in EU4.
Where do I put my 5 merchants? I have hardly any idea of how the trade system works compared to EU3, what do I do?
>>
I ain't giving you any mother fucker, you're 3autistic5me with your subreddits and "you gotta play the game muh way" bullshit.
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With the rebellious dukes and the holy war done, the Badshah can finally get crowned. After that is straight to Mecca on Hajj.
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>>154039721
>heh heh le drumpf is incestuous bigot nazi xDxD
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>154039883
in the fucking recycle bin with the rest of the game
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>>154039904
>3autistic5me

This is a 18+ website.
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>>154039904
>3autistic5me
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>154039142
in what game
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>>154040090
based
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>>154039883
Do you play with mods? If not get MEIOU and start over. If you don't wanna play with mods delete the game and never post here again.
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>>154039721
Daughter-wife, yes, it's a thing.
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>>154040185
>getting in a threesome with your wifesister and your daughterniece
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>>154039947
>>154040134
Just the base game, it's my first game coming from EU3, but the trade system is really the only thing that I don't know how to do. Right now I'm transfering trade from Siberia and Astrakhan to Kazan, and from Kiev to Novgorod.
I'm collecting in Novgorod, but I only get like 30 total.
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>>154040486
Delete system32. Get mods or kys muh man.
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>>154039928
>Trump supporter getting triggered
Go back to your safe space.
>>>/pol/
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>>154040782
>unironic communist thinks this is his home
Top fucking kek.
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First time playing horsefuckers and I'm thinking of moving my capital out from the ass end of nowhere. Is there a generally preferred type of location? I'd like to move it into the jungle so I can get elephants in my horde, but that would require reaching curryland first.
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>>154040927
Constantinople.
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>>154040927
Finland. You're close to Europe and you don't get the culture penalties.
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What African/Asian colonies for a gross Scandinaviums? I think something like Nigeria will be necessary since I will need the manpower if I want to conquer and hold the extended expansion areas (yellow dashed areas).
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>>154040782
>>154040889
The worst thing about the left right slippery slope is that everyone buys into it
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>>154041194
take ireland and make it muslim xDxD
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>>154041253
The worst thing about it is that we're taking about it in the /genocide/ general.
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>>154041194
Just give it all to germany.
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>>154041253
>im central
>i support everything the communists do with the added bonus that i don't care about the poor
You're worse than him.
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>>154041374
You know how I know you're retarded?
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>>154041374
holy shit you just nailed people who identify as centrists/independents...
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>>154014673
To split up disgusting western blobs.
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>>154015994
Fixed a few things. Should be perfect now.
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>>154041194
HOLY SHIT

What graphics mod are you using?
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>>154041374
>>154041521
See this is the problem, people who are perceived as 'central' are either used by people as their strawman to push over or people try to win them over to their side
In reality no one is 'central', they actually have decentralized views on both sides of the spectrum which is perfectly plausible and claiming otherwise is utter horsecrap.
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>Suddenly realizing I accidentally set de jure drift to 35 years
Just kill me now
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>>154041638
As much as I hate leftists and sjw, Trump's funboys are the worst.
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>>154041765
Off yourself croat
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>>154041194
ffs alt + numpad 225 for ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß
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>>154041772
Coolmapmod with a custom font mod I pulled from another map mod a long while ago
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>>154042026
t. Mehmet the "German"
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>>154041459
>what is national socialism
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post link to rus archive with CK2 DLC
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>>154041925
>>Off yourself croat
Jokes on you, I'm _______Finnish______
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>>154042438
:-DDD
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>>154041194
le blob into nigger land playthrough
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New Thread
>>154042458
>>154042458
>>154042458
>>154042458
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Why does it feel so good to bully defenseless people?
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>>154042550
what mod
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>>154042773
Divergence of darkness
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>>154041854
You're confused. I wasn't defending Trump just because I was shitting on his unfunny joke that a particular group of people like to repeat often.
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>>154041840
you think irrelevant issues like abortion and taxes is what differentiates the left and right instead of one or two key issues which is why you have such a moronic view of the nature of people who identify as "the center".
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>>154043415
No fucking argument in sight, please elaborate your 'point'
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Is HiP updated yet?
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>>154043634
no
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>>154043634
yes
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>>154043634
maybe
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>>154043634
ask again
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>>154043565
as opposed to the post i was responding to which was interesting, insightful, and well argued. take it to reddit lest this shitty general is spammed even more you fucking moron
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>>154044794
You are braindead, and so is your point
For all the shit you have to spew you have still not come up with anything that would justify your behavior, leaving me to believe that your grounding is as shallow as a puddle. Bye
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>>154043634
Yes
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>>154045219
you are braindead and so is your point
for all the shit you have to spew you have still not come up with anything that would justify your behavior, leaving me to believe that your grounding is as shallow as a puddle. cya
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>>154048447
see >>154045219
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>>154048853
see >>154048447
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>>154048853
>>154049464
You two retards stay in this thread, ok? Thanks
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>>154003470
You must become the Holy Roman Emperor.
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>>154005583
Annex Japan.
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>>154049464
see >>154045219
>>154050349
I'm done with this, if he wants a response he should refer to this post
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>>154051523
see >>154048447


>>154050349
notice i didn't bring it into the other thread already you stupid fuck.
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>>153989047
Whats the best strategy for playing Greece in Vicky 2?
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