/evn/ - English Visual Novels

baka OP, dead thread

If this anon >>153935306 is still here, can you recommend me some manga or vns pls? I think I read the same things as you and have run out of horror ones.

I'm using my bump powers

>Writer for paid hire
>Doesn't use capitalization

>>153963570
In messages or forum posts? What's the problem?

>>153964320
Doesn't give a good impression. They could be a fantastic writer when they're in the zone and serious, but if all you see from them is, "hai guyz hire me i write reel good iswear", would you give them the time of day?

>>153963570
>>153964758
i don't capitalize basically everywhere because it requires effort

but god damn can i write like a champ

what an uninspiring top image

>>153965034
Needs more tiddies

>>153964758
Sure. You said their only issue was no capitalization.

File: dunno what to tell you.png (130KB, 442x353px) Image search: [Google]

130KB, 442x353px

>>153965034
you guys always want writers to post progress so i did

>>153965281
You could post an excerpt, you know.

>>153965281
oh look, it thinks it's being clever

>>153966891
>I don't agree with someone making a joke, so I'm going to call them 'it' in order to be derogatory

Why do you think this is a remotely appropriate response?

Fuck off to a tumblr hugbox where spewing that bullshit is acceptable.

>>153965034
>>153965381
>>153966891
Not OP, but you guys really can't complain when we die before a new thread is even created. Anyone can do it if they wanted.

>>153965381
Do your own bread next time. Nothing is stopping you.

>>153968021
I'm don't care about the OP so long as my filter can still pick up the thread. A screenshot of a big block of text would possibly been worse. I'm just saying writers can post progress.

Any download links for Sakura Shrine Girls and Sakura Space yet? I checked a few of my favorite sites but they don't have 'em.

>>153969164
buy them you cheap fuck.

>>153969164
>having shit taste
>pirating EVNs
>stating that here of all places
wew lad

>>153969164
>Pirating /evn/s

That's a new low

>>153967083
wew lad, that projection is blinding

>>153969164
Not that I've seen, sorry. If I run across a torrent I'll link it here to spite everyone who gets their panties in a bunch when piracy is mentioned.

>>153971381
And I'll hope that if you're ever not a huge nodev, that someone does the same to you.

Even fucking Liru's game had over 100x downloads from piracy than from buyers, and people waited years for it. Pirate all you want, but don't complain people can't afford better artists/writers/musicians and the scene can't stand a flame to Japan's later.

>>153972031

> if

of course he's a no dev.

>>153972031
I won't, because it's not my problem.

>>153972391
I'm not a dev at all.

>>153972031
I understand the pain. There are more sites where you can illegally download my game than there are reviews of it by a 3/1 factor.

>>153972031
We too can't wait for you to quit the industry, famu.

>>153969164
play a better VN, don't waste your time with sakurashit (there will be CG sets up in a couple of days anyway, there's literally no worth in them besides the art)

>>153972881

Have fun having nothing to play.

File: itried.jpg (6KB, 292x173px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 292x173px

>>153965281
It's OK anon, you tried.

>>153973365
>implying I'm enough of a thristy underage tard to play WC """"""games""""""

>>153972848
Maybe you should have uploaded your own game as a torrent so others didn't need to, but put some big fucked up messy shit 20 minutes in or after the demo content.

>>153973363
>besides the art
>implying the art is worth it
Couldn't be any more uninspired. All the girls have the exact same face and bodies, and the style is on par with the most generic anime, only worse.

>>153973365
He'll have plenty of JVN to play.

>>153969164
who pirates $10 games?

>>153973873
> implying fags like him aren't EOP

ha ha ha

>>153973897
the poor.

>>153973845
eh I don't disagree but it's still the only draw they have

>>153973873
>man i sure love waiting 10 years to play a buggy partial translation patch by the fourth group to quit on this VN nips are already tired of, knowing that it only got this far because it had a horrible anime adaptation recently and no one gives a fuck about my hobby

>>153974198
...but at least it was free!

>>153974043
i'm dirt poor and i pay for the content i consume so please kys

>>153974043
>implying JVN aren't coming over in a steady stream and with smaller gaps between Japanese and English release as well

>>153974198
>not learning japanese

kys

so im bad and im looking for someone to work with who is really good but for some reason wants to work with me. also i want 60% involvement in the project. also im not motivated and will give up after 1.5 weeks.

any takers?

>>153974349
Mate there are people who beg for humble bundle keys, get over yourself, there will always be people who want something for free or either can't or don't want to buy it at that time.

>>153974467
>knows japanese but doesn't use those connections to make quality jvns instead
why

>>153974929
Get you to do my boring tasks for that 1.5 weeks, boot you for stopping, enjoy the free stuff. Sure.

>>153971381
Yeah, I figured I'd have found them myself if it was actually out there but I decided it was worth a try anyway. Thanks.

To everyone questioning my taste, there's a reason why I'm looking to pirate this game instead of buying it. Think about it.

>>153975178
>thinking you'd be able to get the type of person they're talking about to even respond to you in a timely manner, let alone do any actual work
How innocent

>>153974986
>get over yourself, person who makes sure content creators can afford to keep doing so, why can't you be an entitled cunt like all these other assholes so my argument gets validated

gg no re

>>153975298
bruh
bruh pls

>>153975298
>Think about it.
You're an idiot? If some product isn't worth my money, it sure isn't worth my time.

>>153973897
People who don't like paying for things when they can get away with feeling smug instead.

>>153974929
of course! Do you want to join my project? We're kinda new, just a week in development, but we have a bright future for sure! We have 28 artists and 541 writers, it's going to be a really long one with 54 routes that each lasts 5000 years! Oh and it's going to have fully animated everything and have AAA gameplay and we'll even sell hard copies on conventions and maybe will have a figurine made! I've already commisionned a daki with best boy <3333 Though we don't have the outline yet, or any art done besides ugly rough sketches by some noname tumblrshitter, but please back us on patreon and we're planning a kickstarter too! I can't pay you, but you'll get a cut of the profits!

>>153975478
This.

How pathetic do you have to be to waste your time, which is worth more than your money in any case, in something you think it's bad?

>>153975298
>To everyone questioning my taste, there's a reason why I'm looking to pirate this game instead of buying it. Think about it.
that you're retarded? everyone can see that

What a shit thread. Post some progress or something.

>>153978049
i can't think of a name for my survival vn

>>153975684
oh boy! a cut of the profits?!
sign me up boyo!

>>153978403
sakura survival

>>153978394
That's an interesting GUI. Unique.

File: 1473033619762.jpg (56KB, 636x960px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 636x960px

>tfw come up with good vn name
>tfw it's taken by dog food

>>153979273
>tfw you will never get to publish your magnum opus vn, NutriSource Lamb Meal & Rice Formula

>>153980587
I'll never forget what a ride the true route was when you discover that the 'lamb' was actually human meat all along

>>153979273
Just because another company is using the name you want in a different field doesn't mean you can't also use it. For example, Monster (the energy drink) and Monster (the overpriced HDMI cable maker) and Monster (the job listings website) are different companies using the same name, but no trademark infringed because they are totally different fields.

File: art-29.jpg (69KB, 615x450px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 615x450px

Hey guys,
I finished a track intended for some kind of game cut scene today
https://soundcloud.com/user-795244489/march-to-battle
do you think it could work in a visual novel scene?
Also, if you'd like to work with me, feel free to consult :)

>>153981103
yea but for a little indie game where someone being able to google your game without dog food results it may matter

>>153978394
>everyday my fucking nomad gives me this look when I come home

>>153979273
I'm curious anon. Please share.

Reminder that visual novels are not games and should not belong to a video game board

>>153982225
natural balance

>>153982242
are you suggesting they belong to the literature board because I think /lit/ would see some problems

>>153982487
l actually do, goodbye >>>/lit/

>>153982461
whats it about aside from naturalness and balance?

>>153982596
well you have to survive in a forest or else you'll be raped by wild beasts just kidding. of course go figure i learn that two other anons are making a survival themed vn right after i finish my script

>>153983114
both the first and second scenarios sound interesting. surprisingly I've never played a vn where you survive. Competition breeds better results so I'd go into things with the mindset of that

>>153983114
If it makes you feel better, the focus is more on it being a sci-fi mystery game that takes place with them trying to survive in a forest long enough to get home.

bum?

>>153950468
kek

What's the difference between a CYOA with pictures and a VN? Is there a difference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A60qO60RR4o&t=4m40s

>>153989802
VN originates from Japan. CYOA is more western.

File: 1460681315329.png (352KB, 686x576px) Image search: [Google]

352KB, 686x576px

>>153990554
So then EVN...?

>>153990634
EVN is a mix of cultures. It pulls more towards VN than CYOA, so clearly you can see why it's referred to as EVN.

>>153990725
Aren't all VNs with choices technically CYOA? Unless the choices don't matter at all.

File: (´・ω・｀)7.png (19KB, 512x323px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 512x323px

>tfw you know you're in the final 10% of your script and it's about time for editing passes to see where any addition or removals may be necessary

>>153990876
The terms aren't what they mean literally, it's more about the connotation. From hearing about VN, you might think of a high school romance in Japan, while hearing CYOA you might think of a knight going across a western Europe world to reach a tower and save a damsel in distress from a dragon.

File: Does This Look Like The Face Of Mercy.jpg (48KB, 613x411px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 613x411px

>>153990973

>filename saluting
>image not saluting

How long do artists usually draw before getting into the industry? Are they are "pro" level or just half-way there?

>>153994025
>industry
lel

File: vMEMgVT.png (98KB, 600x500px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 600x500px

>>153989802
>that poem at 52:55
10/10

>spend two weeks playing vidya and being sick
>do fuck all on my projects
>come back and sketch out 9 CG and ink some in two days

i learned bide

>>153994680
I hope to see them soon.

>>153994680
post those sketches

>>153994680
>I drew all these things!
>doesn't post anything
The worst

File: what.jpg (210KB, 1280x1080px) Image search: [Google]

210KB, 1280x1080px

>>153995360
>>153995292
>>153995012
>posting progress
>in /evn/

>>153994680
Oh look it's that one faggot who kept bragging about progress but never show any of it. At least AA dev owns up to the crits and show their work anyway. Mind you, they're still pretty whiny but at least they actually post shit.

>>153995478
your tears are delicious

>>153995551
>Implying

>>153995448
You have to stop being so self conscious

>>153995751
why don't you show me how it's done? :^)

>>153995478
>At least AA dev owns up to the crits
When? They just ignore them

>>153995751
But /evn/ will then know who I am. W-what if they're bullies?!

>>153995751
pretty hard when posters shit on it just because they feel like it. like the tracer accuser anon

>https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=40191
>Islamic Media
Oh look, another Truck Simulator Game!

>>153996289
That's a big team yet so unprofessional.
Or is that just a thing to be friendly?

>>153996260
That guy just has a bad sense of humor. Some anons certainly do seem to be easily agitated, but provided you just straight up ask for their feedback, you shouldn't have to worry about getting dumped on any more than necessary. Posting things here will net you valuable second opinions and help prepare you for the reception your work will get upon release.

Pthvcfhvf

my dudes

>>154001474
no dudes here, only frustrated lesbians

odds clean apartment
evens work on project
dubs sleep
trips make a real game instead

>>154002067
67 kys

>>154002067
That's some pussy-tier goals.

Here's real ones:
odds work on project
evens make a real game instead
dubs clean apartment
trips play games.

by the nine divine! assault!

>>153989802
>What's the difference between a CYOA with pictures and a VN? Is there a difference?

They're basically different subgenres of interactive fiction, and like many such things the boundary definitions are fuzzy enough that there is clear overlap. Many games will be clearly one but technically the other too, and some games are so obviously both that there's no point in arguing over it. Some Japanese games on VNDB, for example, which feature cute female knights exploring dungeons, with a zillion choices and dozens of bad ends, are clearly as much CYOA as they are VN. Sword Daughter is also literally a CYOA adapted into a VN.

Traditionally, a CYOA has much more frequent choices, some series going only a paragraph or two of text before making the reader interact again. They tend to be in second person, though this isn't required. They are most commonly about adventure and exploration. A few are mysteries. Romances are not common.

A traditional CYOA has much more emphasis on text, with the occasional picture as an illustration, rather than a traditional VN's constant updating of what a scene looks like. If an illustration changes to show the result of an action, or add/subtract characters, that's much more CYOA than VN.

>>154004617
>. If an illustration changes to show the result of an action, or add/subtract characters, that's much more CYOA than VN.
er, stop, reverse that. i need a morning coffee.

if the illustration changes that's more a VN thing.

>>153983114
If it's any consolation, mine has cute native children exclusively and I have the exact right ethnicity to write about it without getting too much shit so it is not something a lot of devs could have pulled out.

people who use their lemmasoft signature to advertise their patreon that is getting less than $10 for each vn they make: why do you continue to embarass yourself by advertising this? is it even worth the trouble to maintain the account for your four $1 backers?

>>154005691
They're under the impression that this is just a phase.

btw, apparently "CYOA" and "Choose Your Own Adventure" are both trademarked, so you can't actually use these terms in your marketing (I think you risk getting hit with a cease and desist)

>>154005807
What kind of a retard would? Just call it an adventure game.

>>154005691
is it firecat? somethings got to pay for the gasoline he drinks

>>154005897
Well I think a lot of people toss around the term "CYOA" willy-nilly, especially since it's been part of message board vernacular for so long (those threads on writing forums where someone posts a chapter, and then asks people to vote on what decision to make next).

I'm working on a project right now where we regularly describe what we're working on as a CYOA internally, but when the game goes out on Steam we can't use that term in our copy. So yeah a lot of people (myself included) used "CYOA" for a long time without ever realizing it was trademarked.

>>154006023
infel
steamgirl
katy133

just to name a few off the top of my head

If everyone from /evn/ who claimed they were making vns actually made vns we'd have a lot of vns.

And Im not sure that would be a good thing.

File: masked menace.gif (1011KB, 325x184px) Image search: [Google]

1011KB, 325x184px

>>154005253
>tfw mine has a cute native girl you can fug and I'm nowhere near the right ethnicity to talk about it

>>154005691
Pretty sure you can hide how much you're making on patreon now. I wonder why they don't just do that.

>>154006610
Cuz that looks even worse.

>>154006332
Dude there are plenty of $0 patreons made by lemmasoft people

https://www.patreon.com/soyasushi
https://www.patreon.com/artzombie
https://www.patreon.com/aikosakana
https://www.patreon.com/natalielucht
https://www.patreon.com/royalcafe

The ones where people are doing multiple updates for their zero backers are honestly kind of depressing, like fundamentally I think these people just do not understand how crowdfunding works

>>154006443
but anon, we do have a lot of vns

>>154006649
If people know it's hidden and you're not just making $0 I don't think it can possibly be any worse than showing off their $10 per VN.

>>154006649
i honestly don't see how "secret amount" could possibly be worse than showing off the fact that you are getting $4 per VN made.

like at a certain point $4 is almost more embarassing than $0, since you could pass that off as a non-starter. and $0 seems way less depressing, what I really feel sorry for is the people who actually do regular updates for their four $1 patrons.

>>154006149
>Well I think a lot of people toss around the term "CYOA" willy-nilly, especially since it's been part of message board vernacular for so long (those threads on writing forums where someone posts a chapter, and then asks people to vote on what decision to make next).
Which might eventually be grounds for pushing to genericise the term, if anyone wanted to make a legal fight out of it.

But yes, this is why Steam games tend to find other ways of suggesting that they are branching-path gamebooks or the like.

>>154006751
holy shit those people with $0 zero backer patreons who have multiple status updates

how much of a masochist do you have to be to maintain something that is clearly a non-starter

>>154002225
Good luck

>>154006751
>I think these people just do not understand how crowdfunding works
Tell me how to make my patreon successful.

>>154006462
>native GIRL
lol look at this fag not even making brown warpaint shotas

>>154007193
There will be some of those too, but you can't fug em.
I might be a fag, but at least I'm not gay.

>>154006874
>what I really feel sorry for is the people who actually do regular updates for their four $1 patrons
I kind of admire that, actually. Any sort of motivation or sense of appreciation you can glean from knowing that there are people who care about you and what you're doing is a good thing. Even if it is just a few donating a dollar or two.

Almost named 4 apartment blocks after Eurosceptic MEPs.

moist
towelettes

lysol
spray

>>154012501
look at this uneducated pleb, he's blind to the glory of Kek

>>154007062
You wanna see progress?

I literally haven't slept in 4 days, and it's amazing what you can accomplish with perpetual wakefulness!

For example, in the last week, I have lost 3 kg.

>>154012897
Out of 123?

>>154012897
and in a few hours you'll crash and sleep for 20 hours straight and feel like shit for the rest of the week, trying to manage your sleeping schedule into something other than "go to bed at 9 am, wake up at 10 PM"
no thanks

>>154013308
Wow, your sleeping powers are prodigious

>>154013629
I can sleep through the whole day without getting a headache too, it's like a world's most useless superpower (or possibly brain cancer or something)

>>154012963
I went from 63 kg to 60, actually. I wasn't bragging; it's the result of me being generally undernourished and I'm mostly withering away here.

>>154007146
Shill hard or big tiddies

It's weird when people who interview me ask about why I create only visual novels (implied: instead of real video games) when I almost never release 100% VNs.

>>154015240
>big tiddies
Can I be successful with feminine penises?

>>154016570
>when I almost never release 100% VNs.
Go cry on your twitter, WW.

>>154016584
If you can reach out to the right fanbase. Certainly there are futa fans with money.

I want a cintiq so bad, it might make everything a million times easier for me. Too bad I don't have nearly enough dosh.

>>154017672
I know that feel except with food and shelter

>>154017983
Suck more dicks?

>>154018141
I'd rather join a radical movement and blow you up :^)

>>154018695
Do sandniggers accept lesbos?
I bet they will blow you up.

>>154018695
Blowing me up won't get you more food.
Well, technically, I suppose you could eat the quivering blubber, but that's kind of gross.

>>154018824
I-I can't take all these implications! It's too much! D-dame!

>>154018695
>blow someone up by having your mouth on their penis
y-you do understand no one is blowing air into anyone while they're doing that r-right

>>154017672
tax write off depending on your circumstances. it's not some magic wand though

>>154019018
My fetish is force-pumping air into your skin.

>>154019018
congratulations, you got the joke Autismo-senpai

>>154017672
>it might make everything a million times easier for me

Tools don't just magically make you better you know.

>>154014704
Anon, you will have problems with loose skin very soon. Incoming wrinkles/stretchmarks.

reeeeeeee cretinous otomewhales, when will they learn not to label their shit as BxG
carry on

>>154020410
I know that thread.

>>154023702
Is this a parody game

>>154017672
There's pretty much zero gains compared to a regular tablet tb h . Try the difference before you buy.

>>154025207
How is there zero gains? You actually looking at your hand drawing something, like on regular paper, that alone should make it way easier to draw.

>at work yesterday
>high school boy comes in wearing a sad pepe shirt
What a world

>>154026627
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>154025460
If you're used to a regular tablet, a cintiq isn't noticeably easier/faster/better. In fact, your hand is in the way of seeing what you're doing. If you've never used any kind of tablet, a cintiq would probably feel easier to begin with, but a tablet doesn't take long to get used to if your budget is limited. That's my personal opinion from having used both, but you could try asking other people.

>>154027354
>your hand is in the way of seeing what you're doing
i guess if you have big fat shrek hands

I just finished ACE Academy. It was a decent read with lots of memes and pop culture and weeb references. It had around 300 choices, some a few of which were timed choices, but you can rollback in Renpy, so it doesn't matter if you mess them up the first time. They did a sequel hook at the end, but most of the major plot threads were tied up. It was around 8 hours long and seemed to have few CGs given its length. It you can access its soundtrack on the main menu of the game, so you're getting that for free. If you can catch it on sale I'd definitely recommend it if you're into the genre.

>>154027354
Honestly, in my experience, it doesn't make a drastic difference. But I do draw a lot more because I bought the cintiq, kinda force myself so my money isn't wasted.

>>154027801
Are you drunk?

>>154028221
Do people have to be drunk to play EVNs?

>>154028276
Yes.

>>154028276
Yes.

>>154028221
No, it really has around 300 choices, I counted as I played it.

>>154027354

>Not drawing with your stylus on a selfie stick across the room.

>>154027801
>memes
How many of them? I'm addicted to them.

>>154027354
How big your hands have to be or how weird your hand stance needs to be to cover your picture while drawing.

File: Ghost Test.jpg (719KB, 960x600px) Image search: [Google]

719KB, 960x600px

Mock up to test how things look together. I think it's coming along nicely, but I'll try some more variations.

>>154033961
>That neck
HOLY FUCK

>>154034034
Yeah, the choker kept me from noticing how long it is. It's only a concept sketch so it's fine for now.

>>154033961
Can I suqq his diqq?

>>154034347
If you try really hard I'm sure you could.

>>154033961
what's this about

>>154033961
>dat penis bush

niiiice

>>154033961
please be gxb

>>154033961
Please get rid of the glow around the sprite.

>>154035246
But what if it's a ghost?

>>154035246
dude it's a ghost - you can see the background through his clothes

>>154035246
>being this blind

Please don't put {w}s at the end of every single sentence/comma/ellipsis. It makes things SO painfully slow to read.

>>154034765
It's a short game where you're stuck in a cemetery and have a handful of days to figure out how to escape.

>>154034810
ha, I didn't even see this before. It's made from a photo so it never occurred to me. Extra feature.

>>154034898
It's gxb. It's a gift to my friends first and foremost and they like otome games.

>>154035246
>>154035476
>>154035820
yeah, He's a ghost. The title of the image is Ghost Test.jpg. I like the glow, but I might turn it down a bit.

>>154036958
The glow is fine, but I think it's better used to differentiate between ghosts and non-ghosts. If all your sprites are going to be ghosts, definitely turn it down or even remove it. But if it's used to heavily contrast the other sprites, I think it might be fine as it is.

>>154036958
Does that mean I am your friend?

> game maker bundle
> includes solstice's source code

are you ready for more shitty vns on steam?

File: screenshot0077.jpg (2MB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2560x1440px

Another day's work.
I've managed to make a customizable colour themes for Ren'Py gui, changeable from within preferences screen. Something similar to changing pip-boy colour in Fallout games.

>>154038852
Draw me a white/neutral color gui, and I will color it with all 16m variations.

>>154038852
Does it change the textbox/text?

>>153971381
UPLOAD 7KPP

>>154039423
It changes some elements of the textbox and quickmenu.
Changing the font colours, and the entire textbox wouldn't work, because some colours would make the text visibility low.

>>154040563
That's neat. Are bars/other graphic elements that aren't text pre-made or procedurally changed? If so, would you mind vaguely hinting at how?

>>154038852
For what purpose?

>>154041228
As you can see, there are sliders for adjusting the Interface colour, so it's all procedural. You can use have the GUI in any colour you want.
Text, is actually one thing I couldn't get to change the colour, but maybe I'll figure it out at some point.
Sadly, due to Ren'Py's nature of rendering, each adjustment requires restarting the game (which is done with just one click anyway, but nonetheless, I wish I could change it on the fly).
How did I do it? Ha, I'll tell you after the game releases.

>>154037276
Will keep this in mind, thanks for the feedback.

>>154038097
Probably

>>154041921
>restarting the game
My sides.

File: 1466240536006.png (199KB, 376x386px) Image search: [Google]

199KB, 376x386px

>all those GUI changes in the new update
are animated bar changes still a pain in the ass or do they work out of the box now?

>ask for music licence from popular artist
>they check the project out and love it
>can use their music
that feeling

>>154042686
Tell me about it. It's definitely nicer looking and of course up to date, it's really a much better standard, but got confused a few times whilst going through. Dunno bout animated bars.

>>154042695
That's what I love about copyright and what most people don't understand: if someone who owns the rights likes what you do, they actually can let you use their stuff.

How do I delay choices from appearing until after the text finishes displaying?

Using menu: followed by options means that the choices appear on-screen as soon as the text in the text box does. Is there any way to delay the choices appearing until the text has finished appearing?

File: 1374850922301.png (54KB, 235x230px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 235x230px

What motivates you to finish your project, /evn/?
My main ones are:
>seeing people argue about who the best girl is
>seeing people go on autistic rants about it
>getting accused of favoritism
>having people assume untrue things of me based on my project
I just can't wait for all of the above and more that I haven't even thought of yet to happen.

>>154044618
Do you mean without the user clicking?
IE "Text text text.... [choices]"
or "Text text text. [click] [choices]"

>>154045020
If I could have the user click, that would be ideal.

I just don't know how to accomplish this "read the text, then click to bring up the menu option where you click again to choose"

File: despair.jpg (115KB, 489x423px) Image search: [Google]

115KB, 489x423px

>>154044795
>tfw excited for this
>tfw nothing happens and no one cares

>>154045220
Sucks to be you.

File: 0cf19307777c84517a7e869fe66cf237.png (4KB, 255x226px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 255x226px

>>154045112
This is a super cheap way to do it, but it works.

>>154045891
Changing the text speed itself? That doesn't seem like the greatest thing.

Is there really no super secret method to do this with some "click" modifier? Do I have to delve into semi-complex coding to do this? Fuck

Maybe pytom already implemented it in some obscure post somewhere

>>153983114
>raped by wild beasts
Sounds hot please make this,

File: 1467298384386.jpg (30KB, 720x438px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 720x438px

>>154042686
>>154042843
Turns out I was a retard all along and they're working out of the box for several years already.
Now to figure out a non-hacky way to make them flash when the value changes or something. Though I probably should actually work on my project instead.

>>154046754
why die when i can live and make you mad

>>154032727
The game is one meme after another. It is crammed with them.

>>154044618
>Using menu: followed by options means that the choices appear on-screen as soon as the text in the text box does. Is there any way to delay the choices appearing until the text has finished appearing?
"blabla"
menu:
(indentation)"choice a":
(indentation)(indentation)"shit happens"
(indentation)"choice b":
(indentation)(indentation)"other shit happens"
makes it happen as you'r edescribing, i.e. you read the text, click, get your choices. Am I being retarded, what's the problem here?

>>154048152
I think the issue is he wants the dialogue to show while the menu is showing, just not at the same time.

>>154046239
Ask on the forums, tom might reply himself.

>>154046754
Attentionwhoring is literally the only reason to make art

>>154048152
Didn't work. That's not the type of thing I've been doing (I've been setting a variable to something, then having if variable == something followed by indents), but switching it to what you said didn't do anything. The choice still appears as soon as the text does.

Thanks for trying though.

>>154048938
Correct. I want text to appear, be scrolled through, have a click to continue icon appear, and then that click resulting in the options appearing while not wiping the text box off the screen.

>>154049071
I'm willing to, but I dunno where to even ask. I hate making threads on lemma for basic questions. I've only done it once and don't want to make it a habit.

>>154048152
>>154048938
Yeah, he wants text to act normal and for the menu to appear once the text has finished appearing via it's cps. Your way would would have the text before the menu and disappear when the menu appears - though, you could use your way and include the same text in the menu as well.

Text>Menu>Text>Choices
Essentially, you're still clicking at the end of the text, the user would have no idea that you've entered the text twice, it would just look like the menu is appearing.

>>154049298
shit I don't know, apply a transform with a delay to the choice screen or something?

>>154049512
oh I got it finally. Yeah, it's easiest to do it your way.

>>154049298
It's alright man, asking questions is how you get better at these type of things.

>>154044795
>tfw you are one of several writers working on a harem game
>tfw the character whose route you are writing is constantly singled out and praised as best grill
>tfw you spend every weekend watching at Let's Play videos of people playing your game and hear people reacting and laughing at all the right moments
>that pure moment of bliss when you hear two people together in a room enjoying a moment of pure and genuine of mirth as they read your jokes
aw yiss

>>154044795
To be able to brag to /evn/ that I made it.

>>154049512
Original question-asker here.

Doing that when the player doesn't have text speed set to instantly appearing makes the text run through itself twice in a very obvious fashion, which defeats the entire purpose.

I'd figured that there might be some very easy way to apply this behavior, something I had missed, but it's not looking like that's going to happen.

It's weird because a whole lot of VNs handle it that way, and for ren'py to not natively do it is super bizarre.

File: New Canvas.jpg (24KB, 274x142px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 274x142px

>>154049660
Yeah, it's kind of a tacky way to do it behind the scenes, but the user won't know at all. I'd see if the forums have any knowledge.
>>154050136
Using this should work

>>154050242
Isn't that exactly what I wrote earlier?
>>154045891

>>154044795
oh man if i don't finish this by monday the commissioner is going to get mad and my reputation will be ruined and i will never be able to make a living doing what i love

better stay up until 3 AM playing dumb city-building games and then force myself to stay up until 7 AM actually finishing the job because of my own self-destructive behavior

>>154027801
Why do they even bother with the timed choices if they don't disable rollback? Personally I always disable choice rollback, it just doesn't feel right.

>>154050423
Are you me

>>154050423
>implying commissioners ever shame artists

>>154050346
Oh you're right, I missed that. I suppose the asker doesn't want to use that solution.

File: th-thanks.jpg (35KB, 397x293px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 397x293px

>>154050242
>>154050346
>>154050605
Yeah it does work. I think I fucked up implementing it the first time because I'm incompetent and didn't realize {/cps} was a thing to do.

It works totally fine for me, but I was also curious if there was any native way to do it instead of using a trick like that. It's really weird that pytom has it set to have choices just pop up before text finishes scrolling.

Thanks for the help, it does exactly what I wanted. I don't mind too much having to go and make that happen for every single choice.

>>154050565
On the rare cases they do, I've seen artists disappear for months and come back starting from scratch with another alias. Quite the loss of fanbase.

>>154050804
Well, we all gotta learn somehow. Honestly, if not someone else, Tom is likely to give a proper answer on the forums for something less tacky/tricky, but otherwise if you don't mind that way it's not going to affect anything but your fingers. I'm glad you asked, it could be helpful to others too.

>>154050461
>how dare players play my game the way THEY want to

When does it end

>>154056271
No brakes on the dead thread train

>>154047879
Thanks. I'll be sure to pick it up.

File: NnH Test.jpg (586KB, 960x600px) Image search: [Google]

586KB, 960x600px

More tests. I still have to explore more designs for these characters before I start on the actual sprites through.

>>154058202

I like your style but imo you have a slight problem with necks.

>>154058835
Thanks! And yeah it's a problem I have when I do initial drawings. I've been trying to fix it for a long time. But currently I always try to fix it when I'm satisfied with the sketch/concept.

>>154051902
I didn't say it wasn't allowed, it just kind of cheapens the choices to me and I'm personally not a fan of it. People will stay on their toes more if they need to save sometimes.

what games aren't with sekai aside from WW, Hanako, AJ Tilley and some random kickstarter scrubs?

>>154061058
You answered your own question.

>>154050804
If I'm understanding you correctly, you also wanted the choices to appear automatically. If that's the case, you might want to use the no-wait tag, {nw}, at the end of the first line.

>>154061058
anyone with playism I guess
dozens of individual people on itch or whatever

>>154061269
I'm not sure what that means for functionality. Using cps=0 and /cps means that the player can click once a CTC icon appears, resulting in the choices instantly appearing on screen. What would nowait accomplish?

>>154061667
Not him, but it means the line before the menu will automatically go to the menu without clicking, which means if you just want the text to continue as normal and then open the menu, it will do that, rather than clicking for the menu.

>>154061667
Not using the no-wait tag would also require the player to click twice if they decide to advance the text ahead of time (once to display the full text, and again to open the choice menu).

>>154062617
>>154063236
Oh I see.

Thanks for mentioning it, but it actually does exactly what I want without that. Nowait is useful to know about though.

Is writing a Sci-Fi VN with fantastic art that actually attempts to have an incredible, deep story worth it? Would people buy it? Just seems like there is too much waifu-pandering shit and sex games, and that actual story-intense VNs will be passed up.

>>154064015
>Is writing a Sci-Fi VN with fantastic art that actually attempts to have an incredible, deep story worth it?
>implying you're capable of any of this

People whine about this shit every other post. Make what you want, if it's good and you shill it hard enough people will buy it.

>>154064186
I'm talking hypotheticals, because I would like to get my skills up to make it happen. And I DO have a talented writer in my team and a story already penned down. We just want to convert it to a VN.

>>154064424
>Make what you want, if it's good and you shill it hard enough people will buy it.
I don't know how I can make it more clear. If you want to make a VN then make one. It's not like even an ultra waifu pandering VN would make you much money, so just do what makes you happy.

>>154064015
When it comes down to it, art is the biggest key to success for vns without the waifu dating and porn. It needs to persuade a buyer. Word of mouth/YouTube comes after that fact, unless it's because your vn looks terrible and is now mocked because of it. Writing won't matter if you don't gather the interest with images because no one will begin to read it. Writing in porn is often bland because it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things when it's the fact it has porn in it that attracts those customers.

So yes, a good sci if with gorgeous art will be great and probably well received if people pick it up initially which is where projects fail.

>>154064015
>Would people buy it? Just seems like there is too much waifu-pandering shit and sex games, and that actual story-intense VNs will be passed up.

dear god, you fags ask this every damn time.

You know what? No. Your product will suck, and your "fantastic" art and "deep" writting will just turn out to be above average at best.

>>154064015
I wonder if Sci-Fi VN is going to be the new hit thing. I should start hammering up my art skills on space ships then.

Question: Would you play a vampire nurse yuri horror sex game with a plot?

>>154065453
I'll play anything if it's good.

>>154064186
It's a constant refrain: people whining about how their game didn't sell because it didn't have tiddies; people don't want REAL stories with good writing. When in fact their writing is barely competent and not really that interesting despite their constant efforts to stress how DEEP and INCREDIBLE their story is.

In general the word DEEP has just become a huge turnoff to me, because it implies that the "meat" of the story is something you have to get into. Like, "Oh man, just wait until you get to the third act two hours in! Then things REALLY start to pick up!" If your thing is actually well-written, people should be able to tell within the first 15 minutes of reading.

>>154064015
Probably not, because most VNs don't sell incredibly well regardless. Really, this is not the medium to be in if you are dreaming of tons of money.

But then again, neither do most sci-fi novels, so.

>>154065701
Yup.

If anything, you want a good first impression, so a rough beginning should be a warning sign.

What's the ideal CG per hour ratio? like 1:5?

>>154071976
that's pretty good it takes me like 10 hrs per CG from sketch to finish colors but hopefully i will be faster with practice

>>154071976
One CG per five hours? That's pretty fucking low.

>>154058202
Are you >>153994680 ?

>>154076952
Anonymity is pretty neat, but come on now

>>154076952
nope it was me. i slowed down some so i'm just inking my sketches

So, why do people buy Sakura games when every single alternative is better?

>>154078492
I couldn't care less about the sakura games, but what alternatives?

>>154078492
>alternative
Name one.

>>154078578
actual translated h-games? I'm assuming that people buy these to jack off. Are people compelled to buy it because it's on steam and in English?

>>154078492
because you always know what you're going to get.

>>154078786
A lot of people are too lazy and/or clueless about what else is available. Sakura is tame as shit and on Steam. Perfect for the 13 year old market.

>>154079181
point, and people also buy it for the "ironic" value.

>>154078786
>no one will ever buy your game to jack off to

>>154076952
This doesn't make any sense. Why would I have 9 cgs sketched and partially inked if I don't even have finished character designs?

>>154082058
Maybe you do backgrounds.

>>154079181
The market for ecchi bullshit will always be bigger than the market for actual hentai.

Just look at the manga and anime markets. If you want to make it big as a lewd mangaka, you make something like To Love-Ru,. Nobody is getting rich making actual h-manga that they have to sell at weird venues like comiket or DLsite.

>>154082253
This is true, but VNs in Japan for the most part need H-content to sell.

>>154082253
I don't know about getting rich from it, but there are some mangas like that. There are even more manhwas where the entire premise is just sex.

>>154082253
>Nobody is getting rich making actual h-manga that they have to sell at weird venues like comiket or DLsite.

because you know? there's a ton of hentai artists making a living off their work - they don't do it purely for fun.

>>154065453
Checking again for interest.

>>154082537
I'll play anything if it's good.

>>154082537
>Vampire
>Yuri

I just want good plot. If it involves vampires and girls that is fine.

>>154082630
There's difference between play and pay.

>>154082678
I'll pay anything if it's good.
No, not really, but I will pay a reasonable amount.

File: 1471286436732.png (276KB, 424x412px) Image search: [Google]

276KB, 424x412px

>>154064015
>anon releases his scifi magnum opus
>story is bland
>writing is mediocre
>art is unpleasant
>fails
>blames VN community for only being interested in waifus and porn
I can see it now.

>>154082861
>I can see it now.
I can too because I follow WW twitter

I'm pretty sure I just crossed the waifu threshold on a character after she tries to shove a finger up your butt.
I think I have talent.

Any tips for how to boost social media presence? I post updates often, I link my social media in my project threads, post at high traffic times of the day using the appropriate tags yet all I get in return are lackluster results. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

>>154082531
sure, there are people making a living off of hentai, I'm not disputing that, but those aren't the massive commercial successes. My point is that the properties that people get rich off of are always the ones that can hit a mainstream audience. For mangaka, that means Shounen Jump. For VNs, that means Steam.

This goes for pretty much any form of entertainment. Deadpool did well at the box office, but an R-rated superhero movie will never be as commercially successful as the the most successful PG-13 superhero movie (Avengers).

>>154085337
It depends what you are posting.
If you are posting wall of bullshit text - than no one will care.
If you are posting big tiddies - you are doing right.

>>154085769
See that's the thing, my progress posts contain multiple tiddies. Which is why I'm stuck for what else I can do to increase my traffic.

>>154086004
Why aren't you posting it now?

>>154085337
what platform are you using? tumblr? twitter?

>>154086004
>multiple tiddies
Not everybody into freakshow.

File: 1470825413468.gif (493KB, 510x509px) Image search: [Google]

493KB, 510x509px

>>154085337
Suck up to people more popular than you and see if you can get them to take an interest in your project(s)/promo you (but don't be annoying). Do fanart/fanfic/whatever of popular things and when you build a following through that use it to boost your project(s). Put yourself out there in every way possible. Be persistent and patient, because chances are you're not going to get popular overnight.

That's all there is for it. Social media is oversaturated with creative folk as it is, so talking into the void and hoping to get noticed won't be enough, no matter how good you are. You're gonna have to do some real legwork to get people to even look at you.

>>154087307
This.
Raw ability is all well and good, but it's worthless if nobody even knows you exist. Incredibly impressive individuals can be completely ignored in favor of mediocre ones who suck up to the really popular people while pandering to whatever the current flavor of the month is.

How do I acquire proofreaders?

It's a little more complicated for me, because I don't want anyone to know what I'm working on until it's finished, but I realize that I'm probably in need of people who can spot spelling errors, identify poor pacing, point out inconsistencies and poor characterization, etc.

I'd need them to be familiar with some source material, a few VNs I'd want them to have read to understand where I was coming from with certain things, and be willing to shut the fuck up about all of it until I was ready to release.

This thread clearly isn't a good place to ask because while some of the people here might be trustworthy it's also incredibly easy for anyone to just lie and lead me on. I don't really have a good idea of who to ask or where to look.

>>154088671
Just pay some nerd from lemma

>>154088780
>paying for proofreaders
ishiggydiggy

>>154088671
Join a writing group. Having people to read your stuff and give feedback on things like pacing and characterization of the point of a writing group, and if you're dealing with other pros (or aspiring pros) they'll be solid about keeping stuff private since you're reading their stuff as well

>>154089136
>Join a whining group

>>154088671
>identify poor pacing, point out inconsistencies and poor characterization, etc.
that's an editor

as for finding one just get over yourself and ask.

I wish I could be as motivated to work on my own game as I am with doing work for others.

>>154092540
Where have you been all my life?

>>154092540
What are your talents?
You may work for me you know :^)

>>154038852
This is the new UI framework right?

>>154092540
I can only write fanfic when it's for someone else.
Maybe if you tell people about your game so they get excited about it, you'll feel like you're making it for them?

i am die

>tfw you remember nobody actually posted a good critique of your demo from two years ago.

>>154098275
>making a vn for 2 years.

>>154060451
I don't like to disable rollback in case auto forward goes too fast on certain lines and people need to rollback to read them.

>>154061058
PixelFade

>>154098973
Disabling rollback in general isn't quite the same thing as disabling it after choices, though. Auto-forward will stop when it hits the choices anyway so you can't skip over them by mistake unless you're button-mashing (which is more of a problem in systems that don't have configurable auto-play speeds)

Since someone brought it up in an earlier thread: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37256161

>>154099681
>lesbian chads are uneducated retards
figures t b h

>>154082861
They are. It doesn't take an analytical genius to notice that.

>>154101189
It doesn't take an analytical genius to notice games that have sold well that aren't about waifus and porn, either.

>>154102296
In drastically smaller numbers with a much smaller footprint. Sure there are some exceptions, but that doesn't mean people are more interested in your "deep plot" that puts me to sleep than memeing it up with a "tank girl".

>>154102595
It's not like there's a pure binary between 'boring deep plot' and 'waifu porn'

>>154093913
No, this was made in the old UI framework, I haven't had a chance to touch the new one yet.

>>154103594
Tried playing with how to change theme colors through preferences as well. Kinda fucked up that one.

Welp, good night /evn/.

Almost lost you

Y-you guys don't happen to need a VA for your projects, right?
Male, deep and bass-heavy dark voice

>>153964758
Written language appears in different forms depending on the context, Anon. When you just chit-chat with people online, especially on instant messengers, a lack of sentence-ending punctuation (or punctuation altogether) and capitalization is perfectly normal. The reason the two are omitted is because in this type of conversation, most people (subconciously, though some do it conciously I'm sure) try to mimic spoken language used in casual situations. Some even see it as rude to add sentence-ending punctuation. The only way you should actually judge a hired writer is by what they have written professionally, or for their resume.
That said, what you CAN judge from this is that he's not quite aware of how to present himself.

>>154109387
Can you voice cute trap while she's being tickled ?

>>154109808
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hE5wXPm6C5

>>154103576
all the boys in this game look like k-pop stars. Not that I mind.

>>154085337

I'd focus on improving what you're trying to spread rather than the spreading itself to get more social media presence.

It worked for me.

>>154110003
That was not what I expected.

>>154110941
Don't lie to him.
It's worked for you only because of DEVGRU-P's godlike shilling.

>>154110941
What useless advice. You don't know a thing about my project, yet you're assuming its shit because I don't have a huge following off the bat.

>>154112140

Lol. A game is shitty or not regardless of the following.

>>154112353
Just like yours then, eh?

>>154112456
What he meant is:
-Game can be shit with no followers
-Game can be shit with many followers
-Game can be not shit with no followers
-Game can be not shit with many followers
Why you mad?

>>154112353
So you are admitting that your accusation is baseless. Good job, tripcuck.

>>154112652
I just think it's funny that someone whose only claim to fame is BIG ANIMATED TITS thinks they can afford to comment on what constitutes quality.

>>154112802
Come on, anon. They are IRONIC animated tits.

>>154112802
I highly doubt you can ever achieve at least "BIG ANIMATED TITS" quality, don't be mad.

>>154112802
Take out that broomstick out of your ass

>>154113229
Put your trip back on

How's Backstage Pass now that it's out of Early Access? Any noticeable improvements?