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>>>153491096

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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First for fedoras
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Second for byebye chaff

Didn't even have to script my mages :o)
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Third for a whimsical depiction of the four seasons.
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>>153659053
I WANT

TO FUCK

SPRING

Winter is a shitty mudslime whore
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Ulm, are these two armies headed for cancerland?
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>UWBOWL
>riley, oceania and atlantis all share a province in their cap ring
>none of them take it

>>153659053
Winter looks maximum comfy there.
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No sub.
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>>153659928
I predicted this yesterday. They're all concerned about colliding in the middle, so nobody ends up taking it.

I expect Atlantis and Oceania to just get the fuck out of the water ASAP since they have decent amphibious options. It would leave their cap a bit vulnerable since they're both sharing their circle with at least two others, but that's going to happen either way, and at least going on land gives them a somewhat safe space away from the UWBOWL madness.
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>>153660134
pussies
Winner takes all in the UW Bowl!
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>>153660134
>>153659928
I'm in the coast and if someone gets even close to me i'll move everything i have into them.

So i hope they dont come or they are easy food for fish.
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>>153660517
5 UW NATIONS ENTER
ONLY 1 UW NATIONS LEAVES
UWBOWL!
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>>153660691
>>153660517
THIS

If someone ever gets out of the poodle i'm attacking them aswell.
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>Nation has immortal pretender
>Tons of candles on their cap
>I back stab him and siege it
>In the storming, his immortal pretender dies
>I now have his cap
>There's still a ton of candles
So I can farm his pretender for XP now, right?
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>>153660840
no, once you seize a capital the pretender won't respawn unless called by his priests
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>>153660517
Well, supposing you can expand with little to no attrition, taking land provinces even temporarily would be extra income (there's only so many provinces in that little puddle) that would allow you to field slightly more troops.
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Hello, Pelagia.

Do you know where Ys is?
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>War Elephants everywhere
>0 ranged options

Help
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>>153661016
>no bless
ONE JOB!
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>>153661097
Welcome to Africa.
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>>153660517
>>153660691
>>153660769
I'm going to be keeping armies on the coast and forcing them to stay down there.
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>>153660840
who is that cutie and why is she so skilled with her tongue?
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>>153659629
No, son, you are the cancerland.
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>>153661097

>he didn't take an awake pretender
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>>153660960
Bummer.

>>153661614
It's a 1 shot tomboy from the short lived "Neighbors from Hell" cartoon.
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>>153658410
>Not "Too bad, it was me, Earthquake."
baka
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>>153661563
I'd be careful if I were you. The sole survivor, after countless battles and scars, might end up stronger than the land can handle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodoku
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>>153659053

I need to post more. Dunnow why.
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>>153663739
Maybe because thread is dying.
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Ys's capital is in 249. He can't go anywhere underwater except into pelagia.
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>>153664573
That's fucking amazing.
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>>153664573
So that means pelagia's is the cap in 203.
right?
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>>153661016
PATHETIC
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>>153665243
201, actually.
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>>153665640
>He didn't blind expand with his shark-tribe beating starting army
DOUBLY PATHETIC
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>>153659053
Winter extremely a best.
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>>153659629
>no massive stacks of statues on your forts
shit son what are you doing
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>>153661563
Has anyone started throwing rusty shanks to the hobos in the puddle yet?
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>>153665867
Dying to Ulm, apparently.
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>>153665867
My massive stacks of statues are on the other end of the map right now, cloaked by a few gifts of our elvish friends :o)
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>>153666210
You use those items to cloak your armies on the border of whoever you're going to be invading in 2-3 turns, not during an active campaign where people can see your army composition already.
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>>153667638
ALL OF THE NOT-MAMMOTH UNITS
ARE POSITIONED
WRONG

WHY DOES NO ONE KNOW HOW TO SCRIPT UNITS AAAAAAAGH
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>>153667861
make a tutorial anon
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>>153667861
Teach me, faggot.
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>My 2nd computer died in as many weeks. I need a 12h extension or so to be able to install dominions and all maps and mods on a third computer I will acquire in that time frame. I apologize for inconveniencing probably literally everyone.
>The games I'm in:
>KingOfBullies
>NoBullyingAllowed
>FistfulOfDeathgems
>Der_Götterdammerung
>WeWuzPantokratorz
>WhenYouStaleIRL
>MemegeddonIII
>Dragons

Update: I bought a new alienware using our corporate account, saving a few hundred bucks and getting free next-day shipping. Plus, I can take one of our office laptops home until it arrives, so I'll be able to do turns tonight.
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Is the current nationgen version bugged? I've got some.. cost-efficient mages.
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>>153668610
>alienware
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>>153668610
>I bought a new alienware using our corporate account

>Paying extra money for a logo, even corporate money
Moat you faggot
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>>153668610
Next up is
> I can't do my turns because I'm in prison for embezzlement
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>>153669787
I actually once subbed for someone while he took a week-long break for "legal issues" (jail) and then he came back, did his turns for a bit, and then I set him AI when he had "long-term legal issues" (prison).
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>>153670006
nature gems, not even once
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>>153668890
>>153669116
>>153669787
The corporate account was with Dell, and I got them to price match an Asus, so I think it worked out in the end. Also, I don't think it can be construed as embezzlement if the president gave me the sales rep's extension and told me to even say it was for work purposes. As long as i don't try to write it off, I think I'll be fine.

What's wrong with alienware?
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Wait, did Antiquis Vanheim actually get force subbed?
Might be out as well in that case. I suppose I'll have to set up my own Archaea game in that case, cause this shit always seems to happen.
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>>153668610
Added 18 hours.
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>>153672384
Or I could assume direct control and fix the issue.
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>>153672384
Just find the original Vanheim player and sub him in for you if he wants back in.
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>>153670006
I bet you he was the infamous stabbing methhead.
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>>153672429
*sad rattle*
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>>153672583
That requires taking the admin privileges. Which, I have done before to badmins, and will do again to badmins.
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Can we start a betting pool for who wins uwbowl?
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>>153672789
No it doesn't. It's simple, if the original Van shows up upset that he didn't get to play (increasingly unlikely as he still hasn't said anything and never did his turn) then you say, "Hey Badmin, please sub that guy in for me."

Actually, would that trigger anti-cheat stuff?
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>>153672795
>betting pool
More like betting puddle.
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>>153672975
That requires the badmin to be in thread. Which, to be fair, this badmin is here *a lot* more often than other badmins, who tend to just bugger off for no real reason, so it may not be an issue.
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Hey, Utgard, if you're there, we cool? I would quite like to not have to fight you seeing as my main focus is on getting the power to murder Lemuria so this doesn't turn into another inevitable lemurian victory.
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>>153672070
They're just overpriced for their components compared to other laptops. It's not that they're bad, per se, just that you're getting a $1500 computer for $2200 when you could be getting something of the same quality for less.

>>153672587
That was actually spammed in the thread when it originally happened, but I'm pretty sure it was something stupid and banal like drunk driving.
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>>153672975
>Actually, would that trigger anti-cheat stuff?
No, anti-cheat stuff happens when two turns are sent from the same CD key, not when one turn is resent from a different CD key after an e-mail change.
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Fuck the new summod version still gives me the same issue with the fucking barbarian sprite
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>>153674250
Okay, look in your summod folder under mods, do you see the barbarian tgs files there?
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How many earthquakes should I cast in a cave to kill ironskinned priest smiths? (Assuming the after-effect can hit them even if they are flying)
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>>153674430
yup its there barbarian1.tga its says myloadmalloc cant open it
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>>153674540
? Uh I got it to work and I have no idea how. I took it completely out of the version folder and put it into the mod folder I also made it read only so who knows what worked.
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>>153674519
>casting EQ in a cave
I hope you don't want your non-giant mages to survive or anything.
Priest smiths should have awful precision in a cave anyways.
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>>153675068
Allahu-akbar tactics. I don't think I can win vs the army spamming iron blizzard.
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>>153675167
Have you tried Arrow Fend?
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>>153673319
Dont worry.
Northerners don't fight other northerners.
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>>153675261
I have very minimal access to air. In the next big engagement, I should have it online. But this one I do not, and cannot before the siege ends.
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>>153674723
>I took it completely out of the version folder and put it into the mod folder
Hol' up. You had the image in a nested subfolder and not just in the summod subfolder?
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>>153674519
Speaking of this, how does the secondary damage part work for EQ in a cave? I assume it hits randomly across the battlefield once, but I may be incorrect!
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>>153675265
Thanks. My first Latus and i'd like to at least contribute to someone other than Lemuria winning. Preferably by murdering them.
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Is there any way to cross mountains in Dominions?
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>>153676169
It definitely hits once. I believe it's 50% of the squares at random, but I'm not sure.
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>>153676327
If the map maker put in crossings, yes. You'll see them as red province links. You can only cross them when there's a heat scale on either side of the link.
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>>153676423
Thanks for the estimation. Oof. I have no idea how I'm going to do this.
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>>153676443
So when it gets hot in the summertime they're crossable?
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>>153676327
If it has a red border, it can be crossed only when both provinces have H1 or higher or if both the commander and all units under their command have Mountain Survival or if the commander and all units under their command have flying or if the commander has the ability to bring units with him, as with the flying ship. If it has no visible border by default but a dark grey border when impassable is turned on, then it counts as a connection only for ritual range and cannot be crossed by anything including flyers. If it has no border, then there is no connection.
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>>153676642
So long as there is heat scale on both sides..so hope that there is no Niefelheim domination around, or you will never cross it with normal dudes.
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>>153676642
Assuming there aren't some Cold 3 scales trying to stop it, yes.
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Now that there have been a few games being played with Magic Enhanced, what's jumped out at people?

One thing I noticed just looking over the mod is that some of the prices/research levels seem janky. For instance, there's a construct available to arco at Cons 3 for 12 E gems that most early game armies just won't hurt. Like, at all.
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>>153677563
I've only tried EA and MA Arco, but they seem ridiculously improved..
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>>153677563
Magic Enhanced sucks more dick than I do and I'm a gay homosexual faggot queer who attends buttsex gangbangs every Thursday night.
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Who's coughing in my sea?
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>>153677910
>>153677910
Cool it, cirno.
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>>153677910
t. Pan
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>>153677910
Sorry, forgot my name.
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>>153677563
Some nations really need it, gives them some much needed improvements. Some spells though are pretty overpowered.
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Open up dominions.

Press R and T
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>>153679421
OH MY GOD IT WORKS
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>>153678814
t. Pan
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>sieging final AI fort
>literally the last one
>down to 10 units
>2 turns later sieging force gets attacked by 120 units

That's some goddamn bullshit and you know it.
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>>153679952
t. Pan
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>>153680208
>>153679952
>>153678814
>>153677910
t. Pan
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>>153680284
stahp
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>>153679105
>Malakal
>'sorry'
nice try
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>>153677563
EA R'lyeh's items are really, really great. Like, a W booster + air breathing item for aboleths for 5 W gems.

Their combat spells are similarly amazing. They have an AoE 1 Enslave and an AoE 1 mind burn which are both pretty great given that they can take mind lords on land very easily now. They also have a BIG AoE high damage AN, MRN spell which is basically a better Shadow Blast that also requires no gems, but it requires W/A to cast so only some of their slave mages can cast it. I'd say it's definitely worth making them com masters for. Then they have a battlefield-wide version of it which is MRN-easy, but for a spammable RoS that only affects enemy troops, well, it's pretty fuckin' good.

The summons are a bit odd. I haven't played with them extensively, but they basically let you spend pearls to get a random low level human mage. Possibly worth for diversity I guess. They have a global that then lets you recruit them for cataclysm-style mage recruitment I guess, but it's an expensive astral global so IDK if it can reasonably be used in a real game without an arcane nexus or somesuch up first.

The E/S guys are great and cheap but require an E/S mage on land, so I guess an E-random slave mage with boots will be your go-to. The younger ones might actually be better because they get 2/square, but both have VERY high damage AP life draining attacks on a high hp/prot chassis, so they're a top tier summon compared to vanilla stuff for SURE.

Since all nations get new stuff and R'lyeh's vanilla stuff isn't too hot on land, it's hard to say if it's OP as a package, but it's definitely very strong and I'd say it comes close to a national rework given how much R'lyeh will be dependent on exploiting the new stuff.
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So if there's a Fire Hell and an Ice Hell, why isn't there a Storm Hell and an Earth Hell?

Atheists : 1
Puny priests: 0
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>>153668847
Enjoy your old o-ohhh....
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>>153681467
*tips bronze dagger*
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>>153681467
Because Vikings had primordial heat and cold (birthed the world between them) which later were the opposing forces to Asgard's gods?
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>>153677563
Crown of Pyriphologos is VW on steroids, heat 3 gives you size 6 fire elemental assassins in your dominion as well as FREE flame spirits (yes the F3 mages that generate a fire gem a turn).
I combined this with Rivers of Lava (Abysian global that creates tonnes of permanent gem sites for fire and earth in your own dominion + MORE HEAT), and suddenly fire is stomping everything.

It also has so many SC chasis it's stupid, the Not-Balrogs are obscene and with Lava rivers giving so many fire gems the last ME blitz ended with something Gandalf would have shit his pants over.
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>>153677563
Oh, and LA Marignon has sacred demon knights.
SACRED
DEMON
KNIGHTS
They will probably with Latus 3
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>>153682724
B A L A N C E D
A
L
A
N
C
E
D
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>>153676327
>>153676785
>>153676785
>tfw independent province called The Nether has only one entrance and my cold scales won't let me through
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I'd like to draw attention to what I believe to be the first obvious conflict in #UWBOWL.
Ys is completely separated from the rest of the deathpuddle, and only borders one independent underwater province. If they want access to the rest of the pond, they need to rush Pelagia's cap.
The only other option is to go on land.
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Quick, tell me the comfiest nation.
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>>153684001
NO ONELEAVES #UWBOWL TILL NO ONE IS LEFT
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>tfw blind turn 1 expansion went great

Joke's on you fags laughing at me in the last thread.
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>>153684001
Pelagia has no bless right? Ys could destroy them.
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>>153684116
LA R'lyeh. Literally nobody is going to bother fighting you unless you cast terrible globals, and even then they have to be real bad for people to bother, most people would rather go AI than fight a full cancer LA R'lyeh, it's like fighting Ermor but 100x worse and underwater.
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>>153684374
Actually, no. Unblessed knights are still so much better than literally anything Ys can make underwater that it's not even funny. Ys will need MUCH more resources than Pelagia has and it can't build amphibious troops on land. On the plus side, it will at least have some coastal income.
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>>153684493
>all dat micro management
>comfy
wat
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>>153684223
>ys tries to escape waterdome
>gets forced back underwater

>>153684374
Pelagia has no bless as far as I know. No awake pretender that I've seen either.
I don't know of Ys has a bless.

>>153684493
>micro hell
>comfy
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>>153678814
>>153679952
>>153680208
>>153680284
Please stop this. Let this meme end.
>in b4 t.Pan
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>>153684957
Forgot name.
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>>153684957
t. Pan
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>>153682360
Fire spirits as gem gens is summod only.
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>>153679105
>>153685094
Scrub stop pretending to be me...
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>>153684553
>>153684713
Most of that shit is freespawn, just ferry them around and chuck them at the nearest unlucky fucker you decided to harass.
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>second turn expansion into capring province with "20 slingers and militia"
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So, can I have my nation back. Can give you the email if you need it.
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>>153685884
This is in Olathe, isnt it?
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>>153685980

Lel, nah.
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>>153686031
>myrmidion champion
>ma
I hoped it was Olathe tho. Would have rushed them.
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>>153685980
BADMIN'd

Seriously, giving the nation to someone else for that reason is one of the shittier things I've seen done by badmins.
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>>153686371

>being a shitter that joins games just to stale

Nah, the admin is perfectly justified in his actions.
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>>153682724
Ulm gets Vampire Knights
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>>153687232
>joined games just to stale
You immense cunt, vanheim didn't stale, he just didn't take his turn immediately.
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>>153687232
He didn't stale, Llama always gives 48h on the first turn by default, only 24h had passed, he still had 24h to take his turn. Badmin sperged out and replaced him without even a warning.

At least I know I will never be that much of a badmin.
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>>153685980
Just let llama know what happened.
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>>153687407
>>153687585

He was clearly a faggot staler. It shouldn't take anyone, not even the greenest newbie more than 24 hours to do their first turn. It was clear that what he was doing was on purpose because if he had some circumstances that didn't let him do his turn in a timely manner, then he would've posted such in thread. Admin removed the cancer at the root before it started to grow. I support him in his actions.
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>>153687585
It's okay, it's a race now to see who responds first. Badmin, or Llamabeast.
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What should I be doing as bogarus with my blood slaves if all the demon lords are taken? Horror artillery? Would they do well enough against a horde of bats?
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>>153688505
Demon knights or storm demons
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>>153688010
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>>153688505
Demon Knights, Storm Demons, or Vampire Spam.
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>>153688654

>memestaler buttmad he didn't get to shit up a game with faggot messages and staling like he did the last one

Stay salty.
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>>153688010
If the admin wants to shorten the (stupid) 48h first turn, that's fine, but he needs to tell everyone beforehand and in good time, otherwise people will adjust to the 48h limit instead.

Not even giving a warning is just maximum badmin, not of the funny kind.
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>>153688505
Ah right, time to storm demon it up then. Is it worth empowering my b9 pretender in air to get a few more per cast or should I just boost up my startets? Also, thanks

>>153688694
Are vampires mostly for defence in your own dominion? They seem risky for using for an attack
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>>153689056
I can't keep track of who can and can't blood sac, but in your own dominion vampire force one is really obnoxious for enemies to deal with.
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>>153689056
Vampires are strong troops. Unless the enemy has high readiness to target them or their commanders in magic phase, I wouldn't hesitate using them as raiders as long as they can retreat to your dominion the turn afterwards. Of course, what they really excel at is defence (which in itself is a strong offensive strategy as it allows you to largely neglect defence from your regular armies).
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>>153643062

Yeah my dominion is O3. Only 14 unrest though.
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>>153689281
>(which in itself is a strong offensive strategy as it allows you to largely neglect defence from your regular armies).
This is bad and wrong, because you are still investing resources into them.

Yes, vampires are useful and yes their immortality helps with using them defensive, but defense (in general) is a suboptimal use of resources in Dominions compared to always attacking all the time.
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>>153684116
Are there any NEET pretenders?
is the Dagon a NEET?
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>>153688796
Not him.
You have no proof of that claim.
He had 48 hours to do his turn.
Badmin defense force activate.
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>>153689258
Bogarus can't, probably since their blood priests don't have hands I guess

>>153689281
Alright, sounds good. It's my first time playing a Pbem blood nation so I'm a little rusty.

Oh, also, does the fear effect from demon knights stack, or is it one instance per squad? I couldn't find anything about it on the mod inspector

>>153689606
I think they're all employed though, being a god is a full time job
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>>153688010
It shouldn't, but not everyone has time to watch the clock, which is what the reminder email is for. This routinely happens. Most of the people who do it don't go on to stale repeatedly.

>>153688796
you have literally no evidence this was going to occur besides some post facto conjecture
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>>153689815
>Oh, also, does the fear effect from demon knights stack, or is it one instance per squad? I couldn't find anything about it on the mod inspector
All fear effects stack.

It's as good as it sounds and pretty much why demon knights and ghosts are bamf
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>>153689854
>occur besides some post facto conjecture
You are putting way too much work into replying to a low effort troll
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>>153689528
Well shit, in O3 my sacreds are quite shit. I'd ask if you got anything that can raise unrest but you can't recruit any of them while you're sieged anyway.

>tfw new turn arrives just as I send a revised one
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>>153690108

Sorry bro. Was at Ikea and built furniture all day.
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>>153690179
>jewish carpenter
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>>153690179
Nice. What kind did you get?
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What is the formula for flying charge bonus? I seem unable to find it.
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>>153690296
jews should have built chariots instead of going for a bless.
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ya'll niggas so quiet
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>>153690539
size*2
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>>153690539
>>153690754
Sorry, it's AP/3 (rounded down) or size*2, whichever is higher

For groundpounders, it's always AP/3
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>>153690869
For flying charge only, it is size*2. This is additive with the normal charge bonus for charge weapons, which is AP/3.
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>>153689967
Awesome. Should be super effective against cowardly bats, too
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Guys, I really need some pointers about Jomon
the game has standad settings, 8 players, no UW (except for lemuria)

Should I take a bless for my summons, focus on pure scales or go for a god that can forge elemental staves/rings?

What should be my research goals?

t. non-weeb
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>>153691418
Take a pretender to expand UW. Your best mages are there.
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>>153691106
Nope. It's one or the other.
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I think I'm just going to set myself to AI next turn. I don't feel like playing with a badmin. Big games like this have ended far too many times because a mememin decided to kill it because he was butthurt. See: Flatus 1 & Oeridia 2
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>>153691106
There's no "flying charge." It's only flyers that have a charge weapon that get sizex2, like lance bats and caelian lancers, and even then only when it's more than the damage bonus from their AP. Wind Riders, for instance, get +7 or +11 depending on W9 bless or not
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>>153691602
Noted
I chose a dormant master lich
since I foresee little competition (besides ghosts)
I think I can make some thugs to go down there mid-game
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>>153690298

Shameless new battlestation posting

Also a new TV desk, and some other assorted stuff for the house
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>>153691771
I can understand the sentiment, and intend to do the same myself most likely unless I can hijack admin privileges.
Will probably set up another one afterward, for those who were interested, but without being anon and without the impatience.
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>>153691418
Getting in the water is a good idea, you've got great mages as well as a pretty solid thug chassis down there.
You want to get Tengus and any summon that works well as a combat troop fairly quickly, as your regular dudes are kinda shit for their price.
Most of your summons don't neccesarily need a bless, though earth minor is great for the spellcasters.
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>>153691771
>>153692184
t. Pan
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>>153692240
t. Pan
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>>153692229
>>153691828
>>153691602

Trying to expand with archers.
Should I do go-hatamoto/aka-oni sam instead?
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>>153692240
No, Pan's a retarded furry fuck. When people post retarded shit or whatever you can do that. When you reply like that to normal posts, you dilute its value as a shame tag
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>>153692229
I don't like tengu that much. They're a bit too fragile for their price.

Shikome are much better value for gems. With a decent bless they're very reliable.
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>>153691418
Production is pretty much mandatory if you want a decent amount of troops due to everyone requiring at ton of resources.
On the upside, your dudes are pretty solid for their gold cost. Katanas have great stats because the devs are weebs.
Crossbows will fuck your shit up due to a general lack of shields. Air shield is a great spell for Jomon.
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Is it worth recruting indie crossbowmen as certain nations in LA? Stuff like Bogarus and others who have really trash archers.
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>>153692545
I´d rely on thugs to go UW
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>>153691828
12 gems of Kappa with a little mage support will get you into the water very early if you find a weak enough province. They're only conjuration 1.
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Is there a program I can use to simulate battles?
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>>153693465
For sure, if especially if you're Bogarus. Almost all your national troops either suck or are costly and overencumbered, so supplementing them with indies is a good idea. Hoburgs and amazons are to be treasured and forted.
Crossbows are also good to have in general in case you accidentally end up against something with high protection that you don't want to get near (read: heavy cavalry)
Your militia archer IS one of your best units for his price, though.
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>>153692545
Archers honestly just aren't worth the fort resources. If you need ranged support, go find some indies.
In comparison to the go-hatamoto, Aka-Oni Samurai have 2 mapmove as opposed to 1, and have more defence, morale and slightly less encumbrance.
They also cost less resources.
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>>153694232

No. Debugmod plus testmaps.
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>>153691771
Well if admin privileges aren't moved and a new one is opened, I'll likely go AI too and join that one. I'm not going to put down dozens of hours into a game only for it to end at turn 50 because a butthurt badmin ended it, which has happened before. Badmin being a faggot and thinking he's hot shit with a personality cult (>>153657740) isn't a good sign.
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>>153693470
Thugs get you UW too late. Kappas are okay; a pretender that guarantees you a fort up UW within year 1 is really nice, but they do the job and can easily be summoned with national mages.

That pretender is absolute trash
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>>153691792
This is incorrect. A flying charge bonus was implemented a number of patches ago.
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>>153692545
You need F/D to get dai oni. Not sure why you added E4. Always take Growth 3, and Prod 3 is probably worthwhile. Order for more money is better than Turmoil, but Luck 3 is better still given that you're doing the Luck/Magic build (which I actually DO like, since you can use literally any gem that you get from the events and event gems are not reduced by LA's lower magic site freq)
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show me your #UWBowl2016 hype face /domg/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DICXzT-PKEE
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>>153695836
Link?
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>>153695836
While I'm not SURE that you're wrong, this is literally the first I've ever heard of this and it's very hard to see a +4 bonus in the combat log.
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>>153696152
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/dom4log.html
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>>153695836
I just checked the patch notes. The relevant note is -

Fliers get size*2 as charge damage if it exceeds the old AP/3
>if it exceeds the old AP/3

So yeah, you're wrong and the dude you're replying to is right.
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Do you guys think that this force beat a province militia consisting of slingers+heavy infantry and two war elephants? I just don't want to fuck up my first turn...
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>>153696467
>elephants

Unlikely, wouldn't risk it. If you do win, you'd lose a lot and likely not be able to take the next province.

If that bandar is a prophet, that would help some but in the end not change much I think.
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>>153696467
Probably not. You need a few elephants or sacreds.
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>>153696467
Yeah, you should be able to do that no problem.
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Atlantis I've noticed you staled, if you need extensions in the future let me know.
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>>153696597
>>153696591
thanks guys
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>>153696467
Step 1:
Leave the vast majority of the markata behind to serve as chaff for future squads. You don't need 22 of them
Step 2: Put a small number of atavi (2-3) near the front of your army set to guard commander. These will lure the enemy army in towards them.
Step 3: Put the bandar and the rest of the atavi on a flank set to hold-attack Large Enemy Monsters to focus the elephants.
Step 4: Put the small markata squad directly in FRONT of your commander. They will walk forward and get between the attacks and your commander. When an elephant is engaged in melee, it will trample the targets it's engaged with. High defense markata can actually dodge trample attacks fairly well, so they can keep the elephants busy for a few turns if you mess up where exactly you positioned your -actually-hit-things- squad and the elephants would otherwise actually engage your commander
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>>153696843

Unfortunately the bow ones are only 11 def.

I realize they're mostly starting army, but in future make a point of getting the no-bow ones, bandar dude.
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>>153697137
13 def actually but there are also 30 heavy militia and slingers to worry about
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>>153692546
t. Pan
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If I have a commander I want fighting most the time but able to cast a spell when appropriate how should I script him? If I script him to attack will he still cast sometimes or just move forward until he can jump into battle?
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>>153691771
Ironically enough your retarded reactionary behavior is the same level as my admittedly retarded reactionary behavior.
I just wanted to remove the stale cancer from the game, but if you want to AI I'll just unstart and replace you.
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>>153700073
Or we could just all enjoy the game, which would be preferable.
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>>153700073
>>153700184
Eyup, I'm going AI next turn. Enjoy restarting a turn three game and having ten more people to "replace". Badmins like you should just get Llamabanned imo.
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>>153700486
sigh...
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Hey, Pike and Shot anon from a few threads ago. There's a -50% discount on BundleStars right now. I'll be up for a PBEM as you suggested after I learn how to play it.
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>>153684363
Last time that my Turn 1 expansion worked great I accidentally rammed my pretender into a throne province.
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>>153700486
Should I throw up another game then?
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>>153700901
Please do. And use the same nickname so I know to avoid your fucktarded ass and any games you host. Does being a sociopath hurt, or do you learn to live with people not liking you?
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>>153700901
Shouldn't be necessary I'll give you admin privileges to save the current one.

Badmin impeachment?
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>>153701007
*badmin privileges
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>>153701007
tchau querida
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>>153701007
I'm in the steamchat, and am the one who requested the privileges.
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>>153701240
give me 40 mins ok?
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Hey, Death Plane buddy, we cool right?
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>>153701394
That's cool, should be in there the entire time.
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>>153673319
>>153675265

The cold mountains are very homely there is no need for fighting unless deadmans are involved
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>>153691830
That's the perfect battlestation to stall until people save you from birds with!
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>>153700486
>being an actual child
>throwing a tantrum at something this minor
Pretty pathethic desu.
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>>153701735
bats!
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What's a fair amount of gems for a province?
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>>153702063
It depends. Never trade provinces for gems, it's not worth it.
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>>153702063
More than 1
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>mfw the only competent member of the enemy coalition is now sieging the forts of the only truly loyal member of the enemy coalition
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>once again minor arguments exploded into an admin and one anon throwing a big hissy fit over a video game

you know what's the point of waiting for a big ass game to start if your gonna break balls over the first couple turns?
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I am hereby announcing my impeachment as Badmin of AntiquisTerra in order to restore confidence in the citizenry.
Sorry I let you all down q_q
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>>153704290
Fora Temer
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Admin privileges have been changed. If you have further issues with the admining, you know who to harass personally.
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>>153695035
I asked llamabeast for admin. He just had a baby so he's not often free but I'll keep you all updated on how it is going.
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>>153685884
Slingers are always bad news.

If you see slingers in a province, assume it has something nasty unless you've attacked with a scout to check exact numbers.
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;is kailasa competitive in summod yet?

what if i took an awake bull with 9e/9n bless and tried to 2fort real quick to tech up to ghandaravas
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>>153704290
t. Pan
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>>153704893
ME makes them better
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>>153704893
No sum1 is a huge fucking Lanka fanboy and won't let Lanka every be overshadowed by kailasa. Just play lanka
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>>153704624
Better tell him that the issue has been resolved then
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>>153704624
Already been handled. Hopefully a bunch of people didn't already go AI, or if they did, they will change the orders.
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Can someone give me the gist of what the fuck's happened and what the fuck's happening? Is this game still on? I can't bring myself to sift through these children squabbling like a bunch of goddamn spoiled catty housewives.
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>>153705389
Okay, what happened.
Vanheim got subbed out without staling, just taking a while on his turn due to reminder email not arriving yet.
Cue squabbling.
End result of squabbling is I assumed direct control, to prevent further hijinks. Vanheim should have gotten his nation back. Game is proceeding as normal.
Of course, given how AY and Der Gotter happened, that means 2-4 people will AI for literally 0 reason year 1. If we can not have that happen again, would be great. We're already down an Atlantis and an Oceania.
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>>153705692
>that means 2-4 people will AI for literally 0 reason year 1
Business as usual for /domg/ then
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>>153704893
Apsaras still have a sweet ranged attack, monkeys are cheaper and most the summons got buffed.
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>>153705692
Well I'm glad the game is still going at least. In one this big I kind of expected early stales/AIs. I don't think they throw off the game much more than normal player antics, unless all of those nations bordered a single player who benefited a ton from all of them leaving I guess.
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Status update on AntiquisTerra? Did a bunch of cucks leave because some staler got replaced?
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>>153706901
>>153705692
Literally 4 posts up.
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>>153704893
It's a lot better. Idk if that brought it to competitive, though.
>>153705064
Fuck off lol XD
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>AntiquisTerra

Abysia: 2h file received
Agartha: 2h file received
Arcoscephale: 2h file received
Berytos: 2h file received
Caelum: 2h file received
C'tis: 2h file received
Ermor: 2h file received
>Fomoria: Waiting for 2h file
>Hinnom: Waiting for 2h file
Helheim: 2h file received
Kailasa: 2h file received
Lanka: 2h file received
Machaka: 2h file received
Marverni: 2h file received
Mictlan: 2h file received
Niefelheim: 2h file received
Pangaea: 2h file received
Pelagia: 2h file received
R'lyeh: 2h file received
Sauromatia: 2h file received
Therodos: 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i: 2h file received
Tir na n'Og: 2h file received
Ulm: 2h file received
>Ur: Waiting for 2h file
Vanheim: 2h file received
>Xibalba: Waiting for 2h file
Yomi: 2h file received

Let the bullying begin.
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>>153706901
Badmin in his infinite benevolence and wisdom sacrificed himself to appease the peasantry
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Anyone know a game similar to the dominions battle system but offers control instead of just a script that you watch the replay after?

note: i'm looking for big battles with formations and a couple mages
not a dnd party breeding simulator
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>>153708317
>dnd party breeding simulator
lol, someone doesn't like Fire Emblem
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Wait. Nicknight took over admin of another memegames? Am I safe? Is Nick the leader of the illuminati?
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>>153708317
Try heroes of might & magic
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>>153708385
I like it

just ONLY fire emblem style tactics games seem to exist and want to try something else

>>153708454
thanks for reminding me of that, that seems a middle ground large amounts of units but still single tile
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>>153708449
I'm not in LatusIII. Between the Magic Enhanced, the being Latus, and the having a summod with errors (10g elephants lol) it was too much.
If anyone conquers the admining of LatusIII, it won't be me.
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>>153708317
>what is master of magic

C'mon man
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>>153708915
oh i already own that from a previous GoG sale, guess i'll install it now.

thanks anon
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What do LA Nips do? Get dai tengu and fuck mages up with orbital RoS? How do you use the UW dragons?
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>>153708915
>master of magic
>good
I'll admit the concept was cool...
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Umm, /domtards/, why can ermor summon THIS many skeletons? How is that balanced?
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>>153709754
reported for nudity in video.
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>>153709754
literally reported
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>>153709754
HAHA

TIME FOR FIRESTORM
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>>153709754
It isn't.
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>>153709754
It's a coomon misconception. Sceleria and C'tis can summon much more skeletons than that because they can recruit their mages. Ermor needs to waste death gems on them.
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>>153710004
>firestorm against B9 bless
Enjoy having your caster die instantly from reflected damage.
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>>153710458
>not knowing that battlefield enchants don't trigger blood vengeance
Back to SP with you.
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>>153710552
Unless it's changed in the two patches since I last checked it, battlefield enchantments absolutely do trigger blood vengeance.
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>>153710552
Foul Vapors doesn't because poison damage in general doesn't. Most others do.
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well, do they, or do they not? asking for a friend.
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>>153710696
The best way to be sure is to make a hotseat singleplayer game and test it yourself.

Post results if you do.
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let's see
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>>153711610
uhhh... I forgot my mage wasn't fire resistant himself. take 2
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>>153711758
yes, firestorm definitely triggers BV alright.
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>>153711940
Did that stop it or does it continue?
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>>153711940
wrathful skies too
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>>153712020
all battlefield enchants stop when the caster dies.
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DEEED
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>>153712050
Or retreats, this is a great meme with blessed archers with caelum that wants to T strike (every caelum)
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>>153712050
Note that this wasn't the case in dominions 4. This caused an exploit with the fog spell.
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>>153714312
For LA Caelum, yeah. EA Caelum's sacred archers have stormpower, which includes storm immunity, so they don't take the precision penalty.
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>>153714467
But do the arrows they fire still get the storm immunity? Remember 50% of missiles don't even get fired during storms.
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What sort of pretender/scales should I use for LA R'lyeh?
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>>153716685
I had some luck with awake void lord and all cancer except L3M3. Basically, either go conj 5 for water elementals if atlantis is on your ass, or go straight for gemgens and wish for armageddon so everyone else would lose will to live.
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>>153716685
7+ Candles
T3S3C3L3M3

Awake rainbow pretender or maybe Tartarian pretender.
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Please no one turn bully the bats. Just let them stale. Please.
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>AntiquisTerra
FUCKING BATS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153718542
>>153718703
My awake pretender bearing down on their cap has noting to do with the fact they might stale/ragequit
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>>153719762
AS IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE

SO SHALL IT HAPPEN AGAIN
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>>153719762
Are you also the hero Archaea needs?
Also, watch out for the asshole batman on your capital.
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What does /domg/ think of Conquest of Elysium?
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I need a new game. Any recruiting?
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>>153720015
If he's forsaken a duo bless for an awake pretender the world has already won and my work is done.
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>>153720161
It's shit.
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>>153720228
Asshole Batman can be run with a B9 bless, which is all that Xibalba needs.
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Also, donations of gold and luscious virgins will go a long way to domkilling the Bat menace.

Pls gib golds
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>>153720371
It's surprisingly less shit than I thought it would be.
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>bats staled

Holy fuck this feels good. Buying a lotto tickets, if I win I'll fund a dominions international
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>>153720371
>B9 bless, which is all that Xibalba needs.
Xibalba does far better with a doublebless, considering their main combat troops are all sacred.

Having them take just B9 is a big win against them.
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>>153722620
It's probably better to take a double for the ozelittles, but B9 mono is absolutely fine.
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>>153722620
It'd crazy Aztec isle. You take awake or die.
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>>153722683
B9 mono is not absolutely fine. You give up a ton of power on ozelotl, and they're going to be your main combat troop.

>>153723524
Alive B9 is definitely better than dead doublebless, but B9 is a big decrease in effectiveness later compared to a doublebless.

You could win with just B9 but it's going to be a lot harder.
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I'm pretty sick and tired of this LOL ERMOR CANCER XDDD meme. I'm not going to join any games in which MA Ermor is not banned, and every game I host from now will not tolerate the presence of MA Ermor.
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>>153724343
Git gud faggot
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>>153677563
>>153682360
>>153682724
To help with Magic Enhanced balance updates I've set up an email address to send turn files to: magicenhancedturns(at)gmail.com

Alternatively you can leave balance feedback here or in the Dom3mods thread: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927&st=180&#entry40000250
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>>153724343
Just play with summod. It's kind of like banning Ermor, as shitty as they are.
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>>153724420
There is no counterplay to Ermor quickly capturing a few provinces, then huddling up and turtling in his capital while casting cancer globals. You can not siege it because of the sheer amount of skeletons contained within, you can not domkill it because every gem they spend post-globals goes towards priests and they have an awake pretender there, you can barely even fight it at the very early point in game they are able to get their globals out.

Top all of this off with some fun supply issues (Ermor requires at least construction 2 and N3 or construction 4 and N1 for most nations to even consider fighting them), and you have pretty much a ball of concentrated cancer killing off the world that nobody can do anything about, yet the cancer will never actually go on to win the game because if it hasn't gone AI by the time its autism wears out, people will have researched to the point where its armies are irrelevant. Thus, we conclude that Ermor contributes nothing of value to the game, and therefore the loss of it does not take away from the game as a whole.
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>>153724946
I repeat, git gud.
Ermor can, has, and will be beaten often.
You just have to actually learn to play against them instead of crying about it.
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>>153724946
That's basically all UW nations in a nutshell.
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>>153724946
>You can not siege it because of the sheer amount of skeletons contained within,

Don't those count for 1/10 of normal units? I thought most skeletons are mindless and only special ones like elders and censors are not.
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>>153725467
Yep. Ghouls are the ones that hold up walls, being not-mindless and all, but they tend to be far fewer in number given that they only spawn while there's population to kill.
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>last turn two provinces got attacked by barbarians and knights
>this turn two provinces got attacked by sea dogs and sea raiders

LITERALLY WHAT THE FUCK I DON'T EVEN HAVE TURMOIL
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>>153720161
Total shit.

Neat ideas, but it's really bad.
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>>153725761
Who designed that shotgun, the same guys behind the I-phone 6?
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>>153724343

All the games in which I've seen MA Ermor or Lemuria have seen them quickly isolated, beaten early or simply disappear into irrelevance, to be quickly annihilated by superior powers in the midgame.

I don't understand why they are considered powerful. They are simply mildly annoying, but the amount of minuses they have is astounding. Research is crap, troops are nothing to write home about, they are unflexible as hell, they need quite a bit of gold to be effective (fort+temples), their summons are again nothing special.... and they require a ton of good diplo to avoid turn 5 crusades when people realize where they are.

How the fuck they even WIN games? The only reason I can think of is that players are so bad at diplo that can't coordinate the simplest alliance to get rid of them efficiently.
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> can't coordinate the simplest alliance to get rid of them efficiently

Imagine two nations. One needs an alliance to get rid of and wins most solo matchups, another can be killed by oneself. Which would you say is stronger?

The fact is that you DO generally need multiple players to bring Ermor down and it sucks for the players that do so. Ermor is genuinely strong, and its strength is a large reason why it is allied against.

t. guy who won with Ermor
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>>153730028

Again, I can't see how Ermor is less cancerous than a well-played Nazca. Sure, they don't have popkill, but Nazca has an amount of toys that Ermor can only dream of. But maybe I merely saw them played badly, and there are efficient Ermorian\Lemurian strats.
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>>153730620
Yeah, Nazca's pretty great too. The real problem with Ermor, which gets repeated time and time again, is that if you neighbor Ermor you have the lose-lose proposition of fighting for barren land while other players get the opportunity to snowball or letting Ermor grow. With Nazca and other powerhouse nations, you actually get rewarded more for executing the early game properly to keep them from getting out of hand, whereas the people best off (even when Ermor's neighbors do it right) are the people that don't border Ermor at all.
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Do magic scales only boost your RP if it's from your own dominion?
I've got enemy dominion on a lab province with a bunch of researchers but they have default research points instead of the boost they should be getting.
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>>153731182
You don't get the positive effects of enemy dominion
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Do scouting reports sort enemy forces by which unit type is most numerous in the army or is it just an arbitrarily ordered list?
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>>153731648
It sorts by most numerous to least, but I think the variation in size is applied to each group of units separately. So if you get unlucky they could be in the wrong order.
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Tell me of EA Ermor. Never seen them played in any game ever.
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>>153732317
They're cool.
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If I script a mage to cast something like nether bolt, will it target enemy mages because of the feeblemind component? Or will it target units with no magic paths despite feeblemind not effecting them as much?
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>telepoting squid prophet stole win
boo
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>>153732317
Sacred cavalry cool and one of the best in their age.
Quality F1S1 communition mages and occasionally you'll gain D3-4 lizard mages who can into communnition too.
Legionary infantry simply the best human infantry.
Great nation.
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What nations suffer most from BoT ? I need this for a friend.
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>>153734368
Human ones, usually. Abysia too, with all their fire mages. Anything without death or blood access too
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>>153734368
Marignon
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>Search province with one mage and build lab with another
>Next turn: 1 magic site found!
>Abandoned laboratory
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>>153691830
Btw if anyone needs an extension or anything please but NGT in your name because that's what I'm ctrl fing for. Also I should be able to skip the extension tomorrow, but I had a friend run off with a bunch of strangers tonight, so if there's a mass staling I'm on a manhunt.
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Hey there faggots, i would like to request a 12-hour extension in some games. Depending on the exact time the turns process, i might end up not needing it, but i'll be away from a PC for ~30 hours.

>SparklyThrones
With 1 nation in waiting, i am almost definitely gonna need an extension.
>Nagot_gick_fel
Yep, another game with 1 player remaining. If the faggot does his turn within next 8 hours, i'll need an extension.
>MemeOfTheAges
Also probably gonna need an extension

>Latus 3
Same here, unless someone stales.
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>>153734440
The fact that witchhunters don't show up on the recruitment screen as Old when literally a turn of existence will get them the old age debuff is one of my pet peeves of dominos.
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>>153735525
Holy shit are you me? I need extensions in the same game minus Meme of the ages.

Are you at the same wedding as me?
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>>153734434
>>153734440
Tried making something. If anyone complains about inaccuracy it's on your hands now.

Making OC would be so much easier if I knew where to find all in-game icons, preferably in large version.
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Someone close to me has passed away. I'm withdrawing from the following games.

Olathe, Ys
AntiquisTerra, Abysia
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>>153735856
>Olathe, Ys
>literally the worst position in the entire uwbowl
Man, I hope someone takes that.
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>>153735753
Kek

Nope, i'm paying a visit to my grandma who lives in a different town.

Also, I retract my request for Sparkly. The turn just processed and i'll be able make it before leaving.
Admittedly, it didnt go as i was hoping it would. Pls send help.
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>>153735979
Hoof attack 2 strong.
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>>153735780
Lel. As for the icons, no idea where you can get bigger versions
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>>153736569
Just stretch them by some hundreds of percents. Not like the game itself is anything but pixel mess.
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>>153735856
Sorry to hear that, take care anon.

Sub for AntiquisTerra, Abysia then? Hopefully with less drama this time.
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When you get permaflight as a gargoyle, do you take also reduced damage from Shatter?
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Zoinks scoob. Who wants to try their hand at taking the Ermor capital?
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>>153735979
>>153735525
Sparkly and Nagot are done. Extension not needed anymore.

Still gonna need an extension for MemeOfTheAges and perhaps Latus.
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Can units with stealth retreat into enemy land?
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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Man 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
>Marignon Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan 2h file received
>Midgard Waiting for 2h file
Patala 2h file received
>Pythium Waiting for 2h file
Ragha 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Bogarus 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
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>>153737776
Nope. However remember rituals resolve before movement/patrols.
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>>153737959
I swear if you don't double turn Mari I will turn my pretender around and renege on our agreement
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>>153737310
Cap is not that important with summod. It's 5 death gems per turn. Just a joke. We have to capture all his land and fort nearby, and then domkill him. Easy peasy.
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>>153738209
Again with the threats. Of course I will double turn if needed. In the meantime, keep your snek in your pants.
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>>153737321
MemeOfTheAges has no badmin.

Probably after C'tis/Ermor scrubbed out they uninstalled dominos
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>Bats have no bless


The downside is asshole batman on the cap.
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>>153737321
Extended just in case.
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>>153729918
They can dump scales
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>>153739424
>>153739424
>bats have no bless
>awake meme pretender

that's....pretty fucking awful. Xibalba is very mediocre without at least one bless.
its battle magic is not very nice, unless it is buffing blessed units.
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>>153739618
I'm taking the fall for the rest of us.

As before, gifts of gold and virgins will help me prematurely end the bat menace in the battle of the awake memetenders.
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>>153739485
>extended
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>>153739485
Why not just sub him?
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>UWBOWL round four
>the middle spot in the pond is STILL not taken
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What does an MA R'lyeh look for in a Pretender? I've been trying them out in singleplayer and they seem fun.

I guess Sloth 3 and a Temperature 3 in the scales department, I guess E4 at least for Reinvigorate on your Starspawn Priests? Not sure if they want any other blesses since it's just the Void Gate summons that are Sacred as far as I can tell.
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>>153739965

This tbqh fampai.
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>>153740330
The Scales are essential for them, I believe. All your mages are expensive to buy or expensive to maintain or both in the same time. Even S1 assasins have an unpleasant upkeep.
Major Bless is not needed. Void Summons is not needed, apart from Vastnesses, but it's not reliable to get.
What else? Your best troops are 5 gold 1 res guys, they are sturdy, anbreakable and can be massed fast and easy. So you are buying your chaff right before the war starts, without the need to slowly collect it.
Personally I recomend using communitions to cast Horde of Sceletons via few Starspwns vielding Skull Staff among other expected S-spells. Because your rivals won't expect endless chaff coming from you, thinking that you are having only lobo shit you are fielding and after killing it they expecting to reach your mages. Too bad for them.
Good luck.
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>>153739576

Although in Lemuria's case they need to take an Awake pretender, because neither of their starting commanders is a mage, which shuts down a lot of options pretender creation wise.
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Give me 3 reasons to buy this game
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>>153742026
Fuck off
Read the manual
It depends
Fuck off
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>>153742026
1. Due to the number of combinations of spells/items/units it's far from solved tactically, new players find new cool stuff occasionally.
2. Generally chill community (for an online game, there's always dickheads)
3. Ongoing development of the game itself and mods which both listen to payer feedback (If only desura [RIP] wasn't so bad at the game and give rubish feedback)
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>>153742026
It's a deep game with a lot of different strategic options and clever tricks for a player to use.
It should last you quite a while due to the sheer volume of content.
The community is large enough and active enough to get a game going pretty easily.

And, for a bonus subjective reason, it's a fun game.
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Any OP ME strats?
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>>153743237
>ME
wot?
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>>153743237
Crown of Pyrwhatshisface + rivers of lava. Enjoy more fire + fire/earth sites each turn, size 6 fire elementals assassinating enemy commanders in your dominion and free flame spirits each month.

Rivers also creates volcanos which allows for Ember Lords, which due to phoenix pyre + soul vortex + too big sprite that is awesome is my favourite thing ever.
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>>153743237
there are a couple of nations that have SACRED animal summons SCALING spells avaible at low research, that actually produce tons of shitty sacred troops
with the right dormant god you could have a bless and an heavy summoner for them for a turn 16 heavy hit.
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>>153743237
LA Marignon has sacred demon knights.
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>>153743237
LA Mari sacred Demon Knights.
EA Arco const3 150hp 25prot all-resist lifeless Telos.
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>>153743973
If Talos only had a body slot it'd be GGWP
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Does multiplayer work in pirated versions?
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>>153744483
There's no recent pirate version, so not really unless you do some kind of hotswapping
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>>153744483
No.
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dear D_G players, what do you think about the 48h turn timer?
i had no problem with 24h timer, how many wants it back?
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>>153677563
Bunch of nations can summon pretender chassis
Pelagia and Oceania can actually use their high water paths effectively
Mari can actually use palis effectively and can afford to summon angels. LA gets more demons and sacred demon knights
Man can summon Tuatha and knights. LA gets aoe PotS and a cheaper dispel
Ctis gets more spells to protect their undead
Abysia can actually use crossbreeding and can set the world on fire
Agartha can gateway between caves and gets cheaper darkness
Pan gets to spam even more animals
Xib can spam mud and wood men
Monkey nations gets asuras and pretas
Caelum gets aoe storm power
Ulm gets tons of buff spells and vampire spells
Pythium can summon a god emprah
Rlyeh gets tons of more items and summons
Jomon gets izanami and Reimu as summons
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>>153705692
To be fair, Latus is coming up on the end of year 1 and the only AI was Arco on like turn 1.
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I'm pretty new at the game, is there any faction which is anti-magic/doesn't rely on mages?
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>>153745242
No.
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>>153745242
I'm new as well but maybe try Ulm or Man
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>>153745242
No, mages are the at the fulcrum of the game. You can't survive without them.

Ulm has a theme of being against magic but it's hypocrisy because they have some of the best mages in the game and have to use them extensively in order to win.
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>>153745242

That's the wrong question to ask if you're a beginner and want to learn without complicating yourself too much with magic.

Instead ask "what's a nation without a lot of magical diversity", basically a nation that focuses on less spells, and generally one or two magic trees.
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>>153745242
A nation that heavily relies on strong recruitables would be the elf nations.
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Just shilling this.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GinnungagapREBIRTH

4 places left. EA, Summod and ME.
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>>153745242
Basically what >>153745565 is saying. Good examples of this kind of nation are Caelum (EA/MA) and Pangaea (EA/MA). Caelum for example wants to research Evocation-5 and Conjuration-2 (after a short detour to Construction 2 in order to craft Owl Quills): You cast Storm with one of your bigger mages and Stormpower with everyone else and afterwards it's just Thunder Strike galore. You almost certainly have to diversify your tactics by endgame, but this is an insane power spike and does well against almost anything you can encounter when this tactic becomes online.
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>>153745695
I'll join in 2 hours.
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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Man 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
>Marignon Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan 2h file received
Midgard 2h file received
Patala 2h file received
>Pythium Waiting for 2h file
Ragha 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Bogarus 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

>Next turn due: 10:04 GMT on Sunday September 4th

Fuck
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>>153746017
Extended :^)
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>>153746017
Subbed :^)
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>>153745242
no, but there are nations that focus a lot on troops before mages and there are nations with very little variety in the mages and spells they will cast.
the first war is the only one you can win without using mages(which you are however still obliged to recruit), but you often end up using them to end it.
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>>153745242
Try EA/MA Pangaea.
Go W9 pretender.
Congratulations, you can probably kill your first player by using blessed centaurs. You can probably use stealthed blessed centaurs+troops and dryads to win wars, not researching much beyond alteration 4. Alteration 4 allows dryads to kill anyone by spamming swarm.
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>>153743973
wtf, how do you kill this thing.
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>>153748139
Go past it and kill its mages
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So if I understand correctly, Order is for fast short term gold gain, while Growth is for slow long term gold gain?
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>>153709754
Ermor is completely balanced. Drop rain of stones or an earthquake on that stack and watch ermor cry
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>>153749280
Yes. Except that growth is better after the first year, so it's not even that slow.
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>MA Arco
>get Alexandros on turn 2
>he gets heroic valor
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>>153749558
Time to conquer some primitive monkeys and die like an idiot.
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Is Vanarus going to chain stale now that he is fighting a gang bang? Are we looking for a sub?
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>>153750640
Why the fuck would you look for a sub after a single stale? At least wait for the second on.
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>>153750730

Because Vanarus is a very big nation in a very precarious position and even a single stale means a lot for the game balance.
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>>153750876
I wouldn't worry about that.
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>>153750640
Who's leading the fight against him?

I swear to Pantokrator if Ulm gets another capital..
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>>153750876
Its too late I have 10 of his provinces now, he quit because I ate all of his lands and Ulm and Marignon are closing in too
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>>153751127

I've seen Ulm on Vanarus action, but my scout corps are increasingly turning into scout corpse because half my neighbours have Turmoil 3 and they have to footslog through their dominions.
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>>153751127
Ulm is definitely one of the participants.
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>>153750640
Oh fuck, I staled. Sorry about that, wasn't home last night because of... reasons. I'll be back in about 3 hours, will see what's going on.

Is it a gangbang now? Last thing I've seen was Ulm taking a province and retreating immediately afterwards.
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>>153751127

Believe it or not but Marignon was handling him well enough for other neighbors to see a chance.
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>>153751647

Well, looks like Ulm did something (???) there is Mari everywhere and Abysia and Ermor.
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>>153749985
fuck you, i had a gorillion commanders there when assasination happened
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Game: Magicka

Asphodel 2h file received
>>>>>>>>>>>Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Ys 2h file received


REEEE take your turn Atlantis I have to leave my house soon!
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>>153752127
There is a way, anon.

If you're willing to use it.
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>we have to wait another 16 hours due to a single piece of shit not taking his turn and asking for an extension
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>>153751962
>Ermor
Now that's a surprise. I'm pretty sure I didn't even border Ermor last turn.
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>>153752073

Ahahaha.

Ahahahahahahahahahaha.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I may be doomed, but at least I'm making your life difficult.
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>>153751962
If it's in the steam chat or as a poster.

You can't get rid of the diplomonster.

Beware
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>>153752284

I dont have that many scouts so its hard to tell what pre war Ermor border looked like but he is near.
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>>153744931
I am much happier with the 48 hour turn timer, as it gives me time to realize where I fucked up my turn before going back and changing it.
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>>153752220
If Big Trouble Pythium doesn't take his turn before dinner (~2 hours) I'll fucking do that and leave it running until tomorrow at lunch time.
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>>153752284
"Ill just leave skeletons alone and do nothing surely this can't backfire." kys
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>>153744931
tbqh I'm sure my end is inevitable so it feels like watching a bullet head towards me in slow motion.

But I won't mind staying with 48 I guess, not like it takes long to make my turns, I'll go with what the majority wants.
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>>153752284
>Now that's a surprise. I'm pretty sure I didn't even border Ermor last turn.

Everyone borders Ermor. At all times.
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>>153752617

Do it, faggot.
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>>153744931
I like it.
>>
>join vanheim
>okofire is talking about shaving his legs and armpits and his asshole
>okofire is talking about BIG HAIRY MEN
What the actual fuck. Everyone in here is a faggot.
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>>153675759
It was in the summod folder in the version folder that's how it's always worked till recently
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>>153753415

No, that's just okofire.
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>>153753452
And moggers, and a few others.
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>>153753415
We're now talking about timezones, and earlier were talking about orbital mechanics.
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>>153753415
Not only is he retarded but he's a faggot, great.
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>>153753559
malgrib: if i shave my legs in england
malgrib: technically i shaved it two hours ago for you
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>>153753415
At least moggers knows how to play the game.
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okofire: Look at fucking football players
okofire: Do they have hairy legs?
okofire: They do not
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>>153753894
Can you please contain your /v/anheim bullshit in fucking /v/anheim?

As if circlejerking in your chat wasn't enough, you have to constantly spill over your namefaggotry in the general...
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>>153753978
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>>153753978
Yes, please.
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>>153753978
Can we NOT have this bullshit, full stop? Oh wait I have moderator powers in /v/anhiem.
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This. If I'll see one more time the word "okofire" on /domg/ I am gonna go and kill a kitten. I am not joking. I am a russian.
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>>153753978
This please.
>>
New MA game up send your pretenders

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=JustMAgame
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>>153755762
>Story events on
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>>153755762
>Cancer nation joins right away
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>>153700657

I also bought P&S off Bundlestars thanks to your mention of it. I'll also be down to play once I figure out what's going on.

Speaking of which, there was another game I was interested in PBEMing and I think some /domg/ anons had mentioned it in the past... Solium Infernum? (or something like that)
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I guess empowering a chayot is not that bad if you have free 400 nature gems.
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Why is Arcoscephale so fucking based?
It's basically Greek Dalaran.
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>>153756232
>400 nature gems
Why would you empower when you could summon ALL the wolves?
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>>153753978
Fucking this 100% it gets tiring when I admin a few games here and am basically forced to skim read all the tard drama
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Abysia, you around?
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>>153756245
greek D...what?
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>>153756505

Maybe
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>>153756245
EA only.

Hope you enjoy your rising monkey population imported from Lanka.
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>no new turns
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>>153756906
Extended :^)
>>
>tfw you go to the barber and he doesnt want to shave your legs
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>>153739424
I warned you about that shit.
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>>153757078
Fuck you
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>>153756979
I wish you were joking. Fuck the admins. Fuck the fags who don't manage to do their turns. Fuck you.
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>>153757176
It is time, anon.
>>153752220
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>>153757168
What's the matter? Do you want a haircut?
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>>153755762
>Ermor
>No summod
No thanks
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>>153735856
So, is anyone interested in subbing in for Abysia, considering the player has stated his interest in bowing out.
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>>153735856
I'm quitting Antiquis, too, thanks to badmin shitlery. I'm just setting myself to AI, though.
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>>153758916
Badmin was changed, anon, no need to go AI.
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>>153759070
People in such a hurry to fag up a game for no real reason.
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>>153696061
I need a delay for three days
>>
>It's another case of someone playing two nations in a single game

This community has gone to shit. If you faggots would scout more, you'd see the blatant cheating people are doing.
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>>153759070
>Guy is shit
>HEY GUYS I TOTALLY CHANGED I'M SOMEONE ELSE NOW HERE LOOK AT MY NAME

Not going to work on me, Gathite.
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>>153759486
What game?
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>>153758916
Me too. I've set myself to AI this turn.
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>>153758916
>>153759754
Same.
>>
ello from the LlamaServer.

I received an e-mail from you, but unfortunately there seems to be a problem with it.

Your 2h file seems to be for a different turn number to the one the game's currently on. The 2h file is for turn 12, while the game is now on turn 11.

Details of your e-mail:
Subject: Re: Resending turn file: Latus_3_Big_Trouble_In_Little_Ragha, Unexpected Nation turn 11
Sent at: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 20:53:58 +0300
Attachment: late_lemur.2h

Just got that for Flatus. I wrote llama, so maybe he'll fix it soon.
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Uh, what's going on with Latus? Game says its on turn 11, but I just recieved the turn 12 file. Can't send it in.
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>>153759647
AntiquisTerra
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>>153760224
Request a turn resend?
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>>153759486

Which nations, and what is your proof?
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Caelum,

Explain yourself you fucking faggot.

What two nations am I allegedly playing?

I get that you are buttmad over losing a battle but don't make up stupid bullshit to justify your unsporting behavior.

You just AI'd yourself in a game where you are still far from irrelevant, effectively ruining it for everyone.
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>>153758916
>>153759754
That's okay, the AI is probably better at the game than you were anyway.
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To MemeOfTheAges Mictlan:

If you are still here please set your nation to AI.
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>>153760619
I know you are reading this Caelum.

I won't let you get away with this slander you autistic piece of shit.

Post your accusations so I can share my turn files and everyone can see what a ragequitting baby you are.
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>>153760619
Lol AI'ed already

Steam shitters please stay out of my games
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>>153760919
t. buttmad Badmin
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>>153760619
>>153761421

Do you always get this mad when internet people slander you?
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>>153761496
If you want to avoid the steam shitters, just make noobie games.
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>>153761563
No, I'm just someone the Vanheim player talked to about the whole subbing issue. The AI legit would have had a better turn0, because without actually destroying cap structures it wasn't really possible to make more wrong decisions (recruiting nothing but serf warriors OP).
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>>153758916
>>153759754
>>153759784
You faggots do realize that I abdicated my admin position right?
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>>153761605
Yes I'm pretty mad. I'm winning fair and square and this faggot is trying to take away from my glory.

Also I was preparing for an interesting war against him and he AI'd out after 1 battle in which he flew his whole army into my territory without scouting and got rekt.

Plus I think this is the notorious furry degenerate.

>>153761496
Admin, could we possibly roll back and get a sub for Caelum. Him leaving seriously unbalances the game. Admittedly in my favor.
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>>153761917
>Plus I think this is the notorious furry degenerate.
That actually explains it.
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>>153752324
>1v4
Well played, Malakal, well played.
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>>153762075

Should have removed Ermor.
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>>153761917
>Admin, could we possibly roll back and get a sub for Caelum. Him leaving seriously unbalances the game. Admittedly in my favor.

Absolutely not, the game continues as is, if you get an advantage so be it. I'm not going to screw over other players with a roll back and turn delays just for the maybe of a sub.
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>>153758916
>>153759606
I already told you where you could send in your bitching (and I just checked to see if Steam ate some messages). How about sending the messages there, instead of hiding behind the name Anon, if you have an issue.
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>>153762142
Me? I didn't even border Ermor until I pushed into Mari's territory.
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>>153762142
In his defence, he never bordered me. Maybe except the turn when Mari decided to gank him.

You should've removed me a long time ago, fools. Nothing will save you now.
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>>153762195
In that case I will be going AI this turn as well
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>>153762265

Fairly sure anyone would be happy to open a way for you to remove Ermor.

Attacking Mari that was removing Ermor was a bad move too.

All in all my nation cant live with Ermor in one game so you had to go.
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>I received an e-mail from you, but unfortunately there seems to be a problem with it.
>Your 2h file seems to be for a different turn number to the one the game's currently on. The 2h file is for turn 12, while the game is now on turn 11.
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>>153762352
I'm not in this game, but that's pretty stupid. Just continue on and win.
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>>153762383
>Attacking Mari that was removing Ermor was a bad move too.
I did not attack them, though. Check the archives, m8. It was Mari who decided it's easier to take my stuff instead of fighting the skeletons.
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>>153762383
>Attacking Mari that was removing Ermor was a bad move too.

Literally when?
Are we talking about the same Mari? Yo Ermor post that screen nigga.
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>>153762195
Your call in the end. But maybe we could ask the players to vote on it?
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>>153762425
REEEEEEEEE BADMIN WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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>>153762545
Sure thing senpai.

Mari only sent like 2 raiding parties. Stop rewriting history. Mari wanted to diplomance his way into eating Rus so he could take a capital without actually fighting me.
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>>153762474
I think

>In that case I will be going AI this turn as well

is just becoming a meme at this point. Hope so at least.
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Also, Ulm, nigga. I can send you the thing in a few turns, but you're welcome to send gems right now.
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>>153762501
>>153762683

I dont actually have scouts but it seemed realistic that Vanarus would want to remove Mari, after all Mari is kinda weak...
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>>153762862
Point is, Mari never was a skeleton remover he wanted us to think he is.
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>want to cure a thug of afflictions
>waste dozen virgins empowering him to blood 2
>he still has one
>"what the fuck"
>mute : magic skills are halved

Oh for fuck's sake
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>>153762820
Speaking of sending things, I should probably trade some of my less useful gems to defend what's left of my nation.
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>>153763513
I don't have much myself, but I can send you some I don't plan to use.

2F 11W 17E 2S 3N. Sounds good?
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>>153762951
Nigger fight me I have 50+ death gems from the stupid fighting and I hit the 300 ghoul 0 pop fort walls while the other nerds did jack shit. The only one that even pretended to "help" was blog and it was him saying "hurr i habe N for whine bags for only 7 gems ;)))))" fuck off Ermor
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>>153763304
If you have that much blood it's probably better just to stick a few boosters on him.
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Does Robe of Invulnerability stack with the spell?

Worth casting either that or stygian skin if I have the robe?
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>>153763513
dooo eeet
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reminder that rip plays as 2 nations as once
DO NOT ALLOW HIM IN YOUR PBEMS OR BLITZES
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Ceasidh, just to clarify things, I took 117 and 119 in exchange for your sub taking 140 and 161 (proof of attacks in pic). We agreed to a ceasefire, we didn't agree to any territorial changes. I don't care if one of those provinces is your capring and that both were unusable by me, if your sub had honored the ceasefire without taking liberty to try and fix your borders, or at the very least had contacted me about those provinces prior to taking them, I wouldn't have gone after 117 and 119 as I did.

As it stands, in my message this turn I offered you back your last capring province (127), which you already took, and the two your sub took without warning in exchange for the two I took. We can leave it at that, allow the ceasefire it's existence and fight the bats as we agreed to, or we can continue our war. Your choice.
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>>153763902
Can confirm, did that in one of my PBEMs as well. What a faggot.
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>>153763791
First they ignore you
Then they laugh at you
Then they fight you
Then they go AI
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>>153763902
>>153763997
Post evidence
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>>153763950

Forgot my pic.
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>>153763805
No, they don't stack. Invulnerability spell is 25 invul, robe is 25 invul, so they're the same. Stygian skin is 15 invul, so robe or spell replace it. Invul is not that strong against prepared armies or thugs, so it's only good with soul vortex for PD killing or with other layers of defence as well.
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Huh?
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Still searching for an Abysia sub on turn2, with no stales. I make no promises on pretender choices, cause I ain't got no clue what dumbass shit he might have done.

In the event that a sub cannot be found before the turn is due, do people want to extend/set AI/what?
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>>153764234

Nice.

How much PD?
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>>153763513

If you do that its war to the end.
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>>153764572
>implying it isn't already
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>>153764572
Nice try, Malakal.

What's the alternative? War to the last province?
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>>153764685

Abysia has no permanent allies or enemies only interests.
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>>153764510
20. Got bumrushed by the 10 or so cavalry.
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How do I not suck at this game?

I feel like I need to write a thousand page book to even be a passable player.
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>>153764860

We'll let you know if any of us ever find out.
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>>153764860
You need to play several MP games as different nations and get rekt. And read the manual when you don't understand something.
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Play multiplayer and suck until suddenly you get good, or don't.
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>>153764759

He's dead, being eaten by 3+ nations currently. It's obvious to everyone your interests don't exist outside of grabbing whatever you can off of him, as they logically should be.
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>put dwarven hammer on a mage
>forge bonus 2
>cost of item is reduced by 1 gem only
This isn't normal, right?
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Latus_3_Big_Trouble_In_Little_Ragha

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE TURN BADMIN WHY DID YOU ROLL BACK
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>>153764116
Keep attacking, those provinces belong to the elves.
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>>153764572
I'm being attacked by 4 nations. You, in particular, are sieging 2 of my forts while raiding me. Other participants of 'how much of Vanarus can you eat' contest are doing basically the same.
I can't see why I shouldn't make this war cost you as much as possible, friend.
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>>153765115

Are you making a dual path thing? The two gems are one from each path in that case.
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>>153765115
What item? If it's a multipath item then the forge bonus is split among the paths
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>>153765115
Does it cost two different gem types?
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>>153765256
It wasn't badmin, it's llamasever's issues. I already e-mailed llama.
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>>153765301

I have come back from 5 man gang bangs but it relies on not burning the bridges.
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>>153765308
>>153765309
>>153765337
Okay that's it. Guess it's only fair, but I'm not sure how I manage to not notice this before.
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>>153765460
Of course. But in this case, it isn't me who's burning them.
I'll wait until next turn and see what happened to the bridge. Your choice.
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>>153766060
>expecting abysia NOT to burn things
please
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>>153766117
Cut me some slack, man, do you know how hard is it for me to not make any bad puns?
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>>153765301
That is not the reason to give Ermor death gems to shit the game.
Unfortunately that is a very common pattern when a bitter player sending all his stuff to a cancer nation.
If you do that, you are a shitter. Well, if CoolStory will be able to give you an equivalent of those 104 gems maybe it's OK. But with the same gems you could have summoned enough Likhos, longdead horsmen or Draugs or whatever you like. And not feed cancer. Don't be a faggot.
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Also, where is his Lish Queen? I need to know it... for a friend of mine. Is it in the Throne province?
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>>153766220
I'm not him, and you can cry "your a shitter your a shitter" all you want, but it's a perfectly valid meta and maybe even in-game tactic to flaunt your resources and threaten to give them to a stronger nation when being ganged up by others. At the very least I'm confident it's a more legit tactic than pretending to be different nations on steam.(And that one's pretty cool too.)
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>>153766220
Obviously, I'm not going to send them for free. But I can't see why I shouldn't trade them, if that's gonna help me in the war.
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>>153766543
You didn't hear this from me but she's sitting comfy in her candles in 135.

t. frontline survivor
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>>153766557
You can't call it a tactic if you are letting other person win the game. That's a behavior of a sore looser.
I can understand if the nation in a brink of destruction and it's sending all it's REMAINING resources to someone the least disgusting. That is OK. But to feed the cancer just so people would enjoy the game less, it's beyond being dickish.
Also, why Ermor? What good stuff Ermor did to Vanarus? For example I am going to attack Vanarus this turn too, maybe it's better to send those gems to me, because that way I'll remain neutral and I am fighting Ermor and those gems will be a lot of help in the task?
But if the person in question JUST WANTS to become a shitter. I don't really care. Ulm winning anyways...
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>>153765283

Are you the sub? And are you telling me or Lambert to keep attacking?
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>>153767092
Maybe you should discuss this in Steam or other place where fags can't false fag at will
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>>153767075
>Also, why Ermor?
Easy. Death gems are most valuable for Ermor. I'm fairly sure he's going to offer me the best price for them.
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>>153767075
Because that's the nation that would benefit most from them. And the nation that would hurt Abysia and Mari's short-lived mages most. Which happen to be the main attackers. Speaking of Ermor on Mari and Abysia action >>153735780
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>>153766646
Probably trading is OK. But still, why Ermor? Can't you find least dusgusting and cancerous nation to be your friend?
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>>153767075
It's a threat. Back off, or Ermor gets the death gems.
If the people attacking him weren't okay with Ermor getting the gems, they wouldn't keep attacking.
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>>153766220
>>153767075
Holy fuck you are butthurt, what do you think this is? Some fucking hugbox where you get to gangbang a player out of the game and have him tell you "gg wp have some gems because u so good"?

You faggots really got stuck on this Ermor cancer meme, I'll do whatever the fuck I feel like with my gems and not have some butthurt fag tell me what to do and what not to do. This isn't SA, we don't ban nations because some people feel they hurt their feelings.
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>>153767305
It's stupid. When someone is after your life, some petty threats won't stop the rapetrain, only make it more harsh.
For example me, I don't really care about Vanarus, but I am really concerned about Ermor. And if Vanarus becoming the anal slave of Ermor, I have 1 less reason to be neutral towards it.
Well, threats are always pointless. People will shit things regardless if they really want to.
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>>153767602
I've given my gems to someone that beat me in an honorabu 1v1 while the other nations warred around us. He didn't go on to win the game, but it felt right.
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>assassination
>assassin casts air elemental
>my mage goes with ironskin
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>>153767731
Sounds nice but
>an honorabu 1v1
it's exactly the opposite situation tbqh.
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>>153767602
This guy knows what's up

t. Pan
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>arguing about not giving gems to Ermor because abloo
>in a game where people meta-game by saying they will take a nation that is their counter to make sure people don't take it

Seriously
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>>153766543
Wanna teleport another S4 ape on me?

I was as surprised that it died as you are.
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>>153767602
>Ermor cancer meme
It's not a meme it's reality. And when you mulirly that "meme" on the utterly incompetent scrubs who are the neighbours of Ermor you'll get Ermor OP.
Of course you can do with your gems whatever you like, but just giving off them to Ermor because you are sore looser is something just beyond being pathetic.
And the main point is if you can UTILISE those gems why should you sell them to anyone? Vanarus has decent death access.

WHY FUCKING ERMOR?
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>>153767731

Get out, Crix.
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So, is Latus fixed now?
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>>153768020
How mad will this guy be when next turn BoT with 200+ death gems gets cast?
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>>153768006
Maybe.

In truth I just want to know does she has access to the Lab and does she hidden inside the fort.
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>>153768020
I don't see the problem. If I lose, I want my attacker to suffer. Sending me gems is a good way to ensure that everyone suffers. Simple as that.

Well, just teleport another ape there and you'll find out :^)
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>>153764505
Hit the steam chat?
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>>153768182
Foul Air would be even better in summod, as BoT is on the same research level. Imagine your army being hit with Wrath of God, and EVERY SINGLE SOLDIER who was hit is now diseased. Fun.

>>153768197
I hope you don't intend to mindhunt a S6 immortal pretender with 22 MR.
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>>153768246
The thing is that no-one who is killing Vanarus are fighting you.
So, helping you won't make them suffer, at least for now.
So that move is stupid in that light.
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>>153768403
I'm in there, yup.
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>>153768418
What's the alternative? Sending gems to Ulm that has 3 capitals and is about to win the game?
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>>153768418
Pretty sure BoT will hurt both Aby and Mari pretty hard. Ulm won't like it much either. Not sure about Ys.
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>>153768042
I don't think so for now. Some update would be nice, if update on the current situation there is.
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>>153768595

It would but we have enough pearls combined to dispel whatever overcast he could put on. Especially if Blog and Ys also help.
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>>153768197
Since Ermor gonna get free gems I won't have second thoughts about sharing this.
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>>153768595
And why do you think CoolStory will cast BoT with his D6 combat pretender? I bet he will just summon 5-6 more Dusk Elders like he was doing up until now.
Honestly, I am not expecting Bot from him , cause he still wants to win and not to irritate everyone around .
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>>153700073
I need an extension till late monday
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>>153704529
Extension till late Monday please
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>>153768802
Well the game page on Llamaserver now shows turn 12 and there are turns submitted
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>>153768802
Llama haven't responded yet.
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>>153768916
If the skeleton is smart, he'll be moving those 2000 skeletons my way.

He's not though so that's probably accurate
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>>153769578
>moving 2000 skeletons to attack E5 nation
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>>153769578

Ya removing him brah?
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>>153769741
Shhhh stop ruining my memes

>>153769782
Maybe
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>>153768916
Thanks, m8, much appretiated.
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>>153769965

Come to the steam chat for a talk can you?
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What are my defensive options against spells that are not negated by magic resistance?
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>>153770031
No sorry I don't stroke steamshitter dick

I stroke non-steamshitter dick though
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>>153770131
Protection/Elemental resists. What spells exactly are you talking about?
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>>153770165
>I don't stroke steamshitter dick
The hero we need.
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>>153770165

u wot

Just a talk I dont bite.
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>>153770457
>expecting t. Pan to be a reasonable person
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>>153770457
I do
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>>153770165
03:58 - Malakal entered chat.
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>>153770184
In this situation solar rays because I'm playing undead, but I got curious while searching for how to deal with solar rays and wanted to see what the general rule was for dealing with mr bypassing magic.
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>>153770559

There could be some horrors from this o Ermor...
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>>153770650
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>>153770627
Just look up the spell in the inspector.

Solar Rays are straight magic AP damage, so high protection should protect against it. If you're playing skellingtons, then either just bait it with soulless, or use skelespam to save your actual troops and prevent routing because your chaff will die if there are enough SR spammers. Some battlefield enchants like wailing winds and rigor mortis can turn the odds in your favor.
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>>153770901
>Abysia and Ermor are both steamshitters
>Agartha thinks not going onto steamchat ends in anything other than him getting gangbanged.

How adorable.
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>>153771380
>every "anonymous" /domg/ game ever
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>>153771380
Don't know about that game, but if I ever know t. Pan is in my game, I'm setting him AI. He's already notorious for shitting games he's about to lose, so it will just spare everyone else the time and nerves.
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>>153771380
I'd rather get gangbanged than end up being a steamshitter myself.

Put your name back on.

>>153771549
I'm in nearly 60% of the games that started since my glorious return :o)
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>>153769115
Extension granted. Just try not to need too many extensions like that (and if you could get your turn in before you leave to wherever, that would be awesome).

Not interested in something like what happened to Der Gotter Lanka.
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>>153771668

Oh Mr. t. Pan I have heard so much about you nice to finally meet you in an actual game.
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>>153771870
>He actually puts his name back on

ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>153771870
>Malakal vs t. Pan

Now there's an asswhooping incoming.
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>>153771931
Nah, that was some rando. I don't think that these two particular steamshitters get along.
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>>153771979
t. Pan will shit himself and go AI. Screenshot this post.
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Agarthans should grow to ancient size as they age and BoT should be a boon for them
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>>153772038
Even among steamshitters who don't get along, anons are focused first.
The whole, better the enemy you know, and all that.
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>>153771668

>unironically liking undertale

the second i border you i'm gonna tear that asshole open kiddo
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>>153772521
Undertale's fine. It's the community and secondary media that are shit
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>>153768182
He should wait for me to send him his 60 death gems first before he casts it.
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>>153772267
Good to know, from now on I'll secretly fuck up everyone who invites me into chat.

If I ever read "x nation are you here? let's talk in chat" I'm already gonna resend my turn with a message sent to his enemies that I'm gonna join the buttfuck.
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>>153762352
K bye
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>>153772521
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>>153772618
>not doing that already
Hello anon. You're new here, aren't you?
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>>153771668
Are you really t. Pan?
I'm in allMAmemes and I'm stalewarriors Rl'yeh
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>>153753703
>moggers knows how to play the game
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>>153773160
He IS really pathetic memester, so it is highly probable that it's one the same person.
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>>153759153
are you still here?
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>>153773160
t. Pan

>>153773373
Your contempt fuels me. Thanks to people like you calling your meme god over and over again, I managed to survive lung cancer. Scream no all you want. It only makes my dick harder.
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>>153773556
Why are you playing Agartha? They aren't furries.
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>>153773556
Even lung cancer couldn't withstand the shitty memes.
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>>153773556
I hope you realize that nobody here likes you at all.

You must be a real disappointment to your family.
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>>153774025
It was the first game I joined after my fun time and for some reason I had a shitty meme pretender for Agartha at the ready so I thought why not

>>153774036
>Implying this is a shitty meme

>>153774165
This is my fetish
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>>153774165
I like him
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>>153771549

Who cares about losers? Want to win against them? Ignore them. They thrive on attention and emotion, like horrors.

Wait maybe t. Pan IS a horror?
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>>153774025
P.S. I'm Pan in several other current ongoing games but not exclusively Pan

Good luck figuring out which :o)
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>>153774298
t. Agartha
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>>153774165
I like him, too. His shitposting is occasionally funny and keeps the thread alive.
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>>153774578
I'm willing to bet your MemeoftheAges Pan. The annoying messages make sense for you, and the competence level about matches (or, you're not a total shitter in terms of skill despite what domg might sometimes say).
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>>153774304
>>153774651
t. Pan
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>>153774304
>>153774651
I see what you are trying to do.

You noticed that he thrives on negative attention and you are trying to see if positivity will hurt him.
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>>153774651
there was another guy who constantly shat up threads, had an attitude with everyone, and people defended them because "he talked about the game and kept the thread alive."

those threads are now dead

RiP soku
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>>153774740
Wasn't Pan EdibleGloves Ulm who was winning until he got subbed?
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>>153774908
He beat pythium in one battle after eating AIs all game then took off for his lung cancer treatment with no forewarning.
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>>153774997
Classic Pan tbqh
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>>153774740
Nope, I'm not some furry fag. I do enjoy playing Pangaea though.
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>>153774908
I'm not certain either of the Ulms could have actually won. Even Man's victory would have likely required domkilling R'lyeh for a 3-throne, because all the throne points needed for actual victory were hilariously locked down.
Really though, Ulm was winning handily until the catastrophic loss to Agartha while storming.
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>>153774578
In that case I'm going AI in about 60% of my games.
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>>153774298
You aren't also CastleDoctrine Pan, are you?
Because that seems like it'd fit in with your "massive faggot" MO you got going.
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>>153774997
>One battle!
>E-eating AIs all game!

Hello Pythium, still upset about the six gorillion?
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>>153775162
t. Pan
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>hating steamshitter circlejerk
>namefagging and attentionwhoring in the thread instead
classic shitter logic
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>>153775230
how do you even get that many mages
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>>153775698
You finish researching, obviously. Still not as funny as when I used 300 temper fleshed engravers a frontline as EA Agartha.
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>>153775698
Not that much for lategame.
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>>153776004
I laughed way too hard.
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>You will never get as many replies as Pan
>You will never be a hated e-celebrity
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>>153775698
50 turns of cap production for Ulm + foreign rec mages and summons

Pythium's is a split between foreign rec mages and fort mages, and then of course some summons too.
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>>153776004
I wanna try creating a communion with like a hundred slaves on the front line and have the master cast a bunch of self-buffs that cause enemies to damage themselves when attacking the slaves.
I wonder if that would be viable or just a fun meme.
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>>153776120
>50 turns of cap production for Ulm
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>>153776004
>temper flesh
>ironskin
>N9 bless
bamf front line desu

>>153776192
It's usually just less effective than using the S mages as mages. Phoenix pyre bombs a fun meme, tho
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>>153776284
Maybe I could try using blood mages or mass producing slave matrixes to put on more durable non B/S mages and cast some durability/regen buffs on them too so they survive while enemies kill themselves on them.
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How would /domg/ make Yomi viable?
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>>153776872
It already is in summod with only v minor buffs
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>>153776093
t. not Pan
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>>153776872
Yomi is already viable.

Honestly the only thing I'd do is reduce the cost of their Oni troops (all of them) by 10-20% since they're stupid expensive for what they do.
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>>153776872
It... is?
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>>153777000
Nice double trips.
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>>153777000
>>153777083
>>153777114
I must have missed something
Because several months ago, it was universally considered a garbage nation
Did someone discover a new strat for them?
Also what did summod change?
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>>153735856
also due to the 3 day postpone if anyone wants to sub for Y get in /v/anheim chat or post your throwaway email
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>>153777230
If I recall correctly someone won a game with Yomi around that time, which means Yomi is now perfectly fine and viable according to /domg/.
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>>153777230
I know of at least 2 recent-ish games that were won by Yomi. One used mass Aka-Oni early on and then used Oni General Thugs and Dai Oni SCs almost exclusively in midgame. The other mostly spammed Shikome and Tengu and barely used regular troops at all. Though in both cases there was diplofuckery involved, so it's not just the strength of the nation itself.

Either way, Yomi is low-tier, but that doesn't mean it's not viable.
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How are you supposed to get H3 priests as EA Xibalba? Beast bats are worthless without bless and since they are undisciplined I can't set them to guard commander or hold and attack for being blessed normally.
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>>153777230
Much like other trash tier nations, it requires someone with an incredible level of skill to actually win (i.e. Malakal, and even he lost a game as Yomi while trying to win as them).
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>>153777993
Malakal won Truescrub as Yomi, though. Was there some other game he played Yomi in?
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>>153777993
>incredible skill level

But I'm a fucking scrub and I won TurtlePower, no Summod.
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>>153778161

That was Ctis win m8

I won Sans Memes as Yomi and it was a horrible nation.
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>>153778161
sansmemes IIRC
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>>153778328
>>153778313
Fug, I got them mixed up. Sansmemes was the one I was thinking of, I don't think Yomi even was in Truescrub (and it certainly isn't a recent game).
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>>153776872
Give Oni or Kuro-Oni some armor. Give them a cheap stealthy unit which causes unrest. Make sorcerers slightly less oldaged. Remove undisciplined on Oni and Kuro-Oni.

Also what >>153777083 said, though I'd give a larger cost reduction on the Oni and Kuro-Oni.

I don't think that would make them a great nation, but it'd reduce a lot of their issues.
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>>153778328
>Sans memes
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>>153778471

Truescrub had Shinuyama but it didnt do much. Survived until game end tho and that was some 140 turns in.
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>>153778296
Unless everyone went AI you aren't anywhere near as scrub as you think/say.
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>>153777982
H2 priest sabbath master
two of the little B1 guys, sabbath slave
presto molesto
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So, how's the game going? It seems we're at turn 24 already, with Ulm and Jomon gone. Anything interesting happening, comrades?
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>>153779224
So
Much
Cancer

When Lemuria doesn't even have the worst scales around, you know something is up.
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Hi,

Thanks for letting me know - fixed!

Cheers,

llama

On 3 Sep 2016 6:56 p.m.
Hey llama! Just got "wrong turn file" for one of my games even after using turn resend. Attaching the actual turn.

TIME TO MAKE YOUR TURNS BOIS
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>>153779224
It's gotten very spooky real fast. I feel a bit burdened by it.
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any pbem recruiting?
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>>153774578
Admit it. You were Sparkly Thrones Caelum that just got rekt and went AI.
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>>153781320
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GinnungagapREBIRTH
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>>153781438
Whoever is admining that, use a newer version of summod. Thed's sacreds have 2 attacks, which is nerfed to 1.5
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>>153735525
Extension granted.
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>>153782134
I was gonna switch it but someone objected when I asked about it and said the error that killed my previous games on hosting was a problem again in the new version.
Was I misinformed?
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>>153782589
0.67 is under construction so it's unstable, but 0.66 has the thed nerfs and bug fixes and stuff
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>>153782717
One more question, I don't know exactly what has changed so will some people need to make new pretenders if I update it or will they all still work?
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>>153782837
uh, I don't think there were any pretender changes, and the only national changes were Ermor and Lemuria
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>>153783002
national scales* changes
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>>153783002
I noticed 0.66 has no download link. Where might it be found?
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>>153783207
https://github.com/sum1won/summod/releases
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>>153783290
Thanks for the assistance, I suppose I will have to RELUCTANTLY update despite my nation taking a nerf.
By the way, do you know if the new ME 1.2 Summod Compatible version is also compatible with this new summod?
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>>153783537
Should be. I don't think 0.66 adds any new unit IDs
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>>153783537
If it makes you feel better, Thed was pretty fuckin' stupid with two-attack sacreds in every coastal fort.
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>>153783537
If you are running Summod I'd stick to ME 1.1 for the moment due to Llamaserver issues.
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>>153784075
do you have a changelog from 1.1 to 1.2?
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>>153784342
Check the 1.2 download
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>>153784075
Wasn't it just when WH is present? Did the update of ME to 1.2 make that also crash with Summod even without WH?
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>>153784412
So do you have a changelog that actually lists what the changes were or?
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@admin
Can you set Mictlan to AI? He has only 3 units and he's chainstalling.
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New player here.

I played a match as Ulm and got utterly destroyed by neutral barbarians.

I've had around the same number of troops as they did and I have no idea why they rekt me so badly.

Could someone tell me why they are so strong?
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>>153784431
ME 1.2 is bigger than ME 1.1. There is some kind of issue with big mods on Llamaserver, and ME 1.2 triggers it when you add Summod.

ME 1.1 and Summod is fine, and ME 1.2 works with WH 5.5. But try ME 1.1 and Summod and WH and you get an error. The same thing with ME 1.2 and Summod.

Long story short, stick to ME 1.1 if you want to run Summod for the moment. I'm looking at putting together a combined mod for each age to resolve the issues, but there will be some testing involved so that may take a little while.
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>>153781320
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=JustMAgame
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>>153658568
>Le hat meme of instant argument disapproval
I'm so happy this shit died
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>>153784810
>Ermor
>No summod
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>>153784075
May I ask what the goal power level is for Magic Enhanced? I mean, it's not an issue if it's aimed to be higher than vanilla, but knowing what the aimed level is changes what you want to be informed about, whether it be things that stick out as being too underpowered for a vanilla+ or too overpowered for being in line with vanilla.
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>>153784730
Barbarians can go berserk and they have 2-handed weapons, so they can deal a lot of damage in a short time.

They don't have much defenses though, and they get raped by archers.
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>>153784730
They have no armor or shields, but are strong and hit hard with 2 handed weapons. They have shit morale.

So they rout quite quickly and can't soak damage. Arrows hurt them because no shields, and morale can also cause them to rout(a pretenders fear is useful here).

In small numbers just bring more dudes, in bigger numbers they are quite scary and I would take on militia first.
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>>153784982
New stuff is largely better than vanilla stuff.
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>>153784847
>I'm so happy this shit died
I guess you haven't been on /v/ much.

Good.
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>>153784727
Some guy requested an extension for this turn anyway so I'll give him a bit more time and then set him AI if it looks like he's staling again.
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>>153784636
Anon just check the damn thread for it on dom4mods.

>>153784745
Ah right, yeah that makes sense. Has Llama said anything?

>>153784730
High damage plus high morale equals bad. Use ranged.
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>>153784745
>>153784918
Not joining this shit without summod.
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>>153784982
>>153785093
nvm I'm retarded, you were asking if that was intentional or not
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>>153785130
>high morale

Berserk*, not morale. Same result more or less anyway.
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>>153785093
I know that, but it's a matter of degrees. Some nations get a bunch of cool new situational tools, others get a hefty kick up several notches of power, which is both fine but leaves some nations small in the pants compared to others.
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>>153784810
Can you turn off story events please?
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>>153785269
>>153784987
>berserk
Only the leaders have that.
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>>153784982
The main goal was to give nations without many national spells interesting and thematic new toys. Sometimes I aimed to reinforce existing strengths, other nations got things that provide new options.

Power-level wise I aim to stay within vanilla boundaries overall, but I was more generous with the spells given to weak nations. This may make some weak nations stronger, but I'd hope not better than the currently good nations. I'm sure some things will be better than I accounted for, so any feedback about things that are bullshit is appreciated.

You can leave feedback here or send turn files to magicenhancedturns(at)gmail.com and I'll look at them for the next version.
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Water's gonna be a bit crowded
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>>153786430
UW bowl in every game
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>>153786430
Oh, and I share a cap circle with a land nation.
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>>153786124
Okay, right, I'll start looking on that basis then, though obviously with it AND summod active some weaker nations become rather more prominent (EA Abysia, for instance), but that's another kettle of fish (aka we've got the re-doing of the changelog and descriptions to do and I'm not taking on anther thing ATM).

Vis-a-vi the entire Talos thing, my initial concern was due to not noticing it lacking a body slot, without which it's no longer able to be a golem that trades Astral magic for high prot + resistances.
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>>153786124
I'm playing in 2-3 PBEMs with ME right now so I'll be able to give some feedback soon (in Dominions terms).
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>>153786430
>Andre
Is this a meme? Why would you EVER name your pretender after your Steam name?

Props for Lovecraft reference.
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>>153786652
That's not me, actually. I'm not even playing.
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>>153786652
It's not him, actually. He did help me make an Arco pretender in steamchat, though, so if someone's running an N9 awake drakon, then that's probably where the name came from.
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>>153786652
He has a posse.
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>>153786787
>N9 awake drakon
You deserve that loss.
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>>153786972
I believe it was some wacky idea for ME shenanigans.
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>>153786430
>Alambusa
Wait a minute that name...

Did some madman seriously join two almost identical PBEM's running at almost he same time with the exact same pretender?
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>>153786972
It's a pretty decent build, actually. Wind riders have high def and defense, so they become durable lineholders with it, and of course it's incredibly useful for golems later on. The drakon expands fine, and you still end up with very manageable scales.
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>>153778634

TC gave him the win rather than fight him, if I remember correctly.

Also it was the first PBEM of at least three of the players, though I'll still give props to Yomi for doing well.

I was Berytos and it was my second PBEM and first time playing a blood nation, so I literally sat around summoning demon lords and testing all the blood spells all game, doing nothing else.
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>sceleria needs 3 days for turn 4
>without a reason
The least you could do is explain yourself.
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>>153784918

WeWuzPantokratorz doesn't use summod, and Ermor is getting completely shitstomped.
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>>153787710
Just wait for the next turn, sweetheart.
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>>153787859

Nigga you have two provinces. You're irrelevant even with BoT+ Foul Air up.
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>>153787979
Well, then you'll be okay with enjoying it for a few turns more.
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>>153776872
Recruitable tengu
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>>153787710
>>153788057

i dont even know wtf is happening in this game because no one ever talks in thread, and only two people have responded to in game messages
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>>153785883
Okay since you asked so nicely
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new thread pls
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>>153789507
Thankies.
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>>153788971

>never been in a game with a cartographer
>never been in a game with tons of diplo/dialogue/shit-talking in thread
>never been in a game that inspired any /domg/ memes like forrester bob, ulm toppest nation, etc.

>tfw not in the cool kids' club even in a place like /domg/

should i just kill myself?
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>>153789723
Make a name for yourself.

Be patient.

We will contact you.
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>>153789723
Just troll /v/anheim all day like the rest of the attention whores and you'll get plenty of ebin meems.
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>>153789835
>troll /v/anheim
Those guys are not trolls, they're genuinely 100% retarded.
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>>153789970
I take a fence to this
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>>153787710
Ermor wasted all their gems rushing two globals though, not the greatest example.
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>>153790424
Then prove you're better and make a good new thread.
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>>153790518
>people complain about Ermor causing cancer
>causing cancer is always the worst move they could make
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>>153790849
Ermor's endgame should be Utterdark, not BoT. BoT is more useful to Riley because not many nations can reach them, and they need high Thaum for astral stuff anyway.
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>>153720161
It's good.
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>>153786430
so I googled 'Senilion' to see if I was missing a reference, and all I found was questionable porn sites.
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