/evog/ - Evolve General

Anyways I'll be making a new thread with every patch so there can be some discussion, but I have no interest in making new ones every time this dies(unless it somehow reaches the bump limit, which I doubt)

Paladin Parnell's stats can be found here(https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/paladin-parnell-stats-8-30-2016/101154)

In all he's solid. Very solid, maybe even op. Without his super soldier or anything he's basically caira with one more grenade, but more range and easier to aim. His shotgun deals great damage and restores his pseudo RVal healing burst. Granted I haven't been able to play him against people yet cause everyone wants to be the medic right now, so I don't know how well he functions against a competent monster.

Surprisingly only Renegabe got nerfed this patch, his DoT's got scaled back approx 6% or so, which is pretty small all things considering. Solo hunter buffs were also reeled back. New matchmaking is... Pitting me against 10 hour people. Step down from the 100+ hour people I was getting before.

>>153387438
>https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/the-paladin-armor-update-2-08-live-now/100587


I was just about to say Paladin Parnell plays like a stronger Caira.

>>153387663
I'm expecting him to get nerfed in the next patch

Wew

>Balance Updates
>new hunter nerf
>PParnell will probably nerfed to dead in the next patch

It's sad that Evolve will die because of this retarded "balance". 4v1 was a mistake.

I hope they will make something like 4 hunters vs 4 hunters or 2 monsters vs 2 monsters, to stop this retarded "balancing".

>>153390293
Will work 4 mini monsters vs 4 hunters?

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One step closer to a team of space marines.

PParnell will be nerfed to waggie tier, so level him up while you can
>also tfw you as trapper stay between two big black men in the dropship
Shyyiiiett

>>153387438
>>153387663
>Paladin Parnell
>Better than Caira
Just /evog/ things.

Remember
>Lazarus Tier 5
>EMET Tier 1
>Bucket Tier 2
>All the other retarded shit

>>153392418
Personally I don't think that PParnel THAT good how people wants to think, but because of all that bitching, of course, he will be destroyed by TRS. Anyway try Rval after his death if you like the idea of antifocus medic.

>>153392497

t. shitter

Let's look at the numbers shitter.

Paladin Parnell = 1625 in 15 seconds without Righteous Fury buff or 2500 with said buff

Caria = 1850 Caria wins by 225 heals without Paladin Parnell's Righteous Fury buff

He wins by 650 with his buff. This isn't even mentioning his superior self-survivability with his Slim-esque self-healing and Damage Reduction. His damage from the shotgun is also much stronger than Caira's napalm grenade launcher and actually will be used plenty as the monster will no doubt try to target the medic. Using it will deter the monster as his Slim heal chain goes off.

>all that other shit
Ya I'm not even defending those.

GIVE ME TO ME STRAIGHT
HOW OP IS PP

>first game as paladin after some bot testing
>okay, I can heal myself for days, finally no more this focused-to-death shit
>get matched against wraith
>wraith fucking RAPED me and shit on me with all my trying to selfprotect
>he has 25 hours
>my teammates has 1-3 hours
>I am shit? I am shit, right?
>yes I am
>maybe it's just a shit balancing by trs?
>no, you're fucking shit, faggot
>i am
>I want to kill myself
>why am I even exist
>am I really triggered that much by videogame?
>am I crazy?
>man you was fucking killed by a noob with 25 hrs. And you was the fucking paladin
>oh no voices please stop
>please
>I just wanted to play paladin
>no
>no
>please

>>153393364
Unlike PParnel,Caira's heal burst works on your teammates which does make a huge difference.

Also, I never found it hard to escape monsters with my 3 + Jump height

>>153393793
The game has become literally unplayable for Westerners, 90% of my team mates is Pajeet with 190> ping.

>WOW MONSTERS ARE SO OVERPOWERED LITERALLY NOBODY IS PLAYING HUNTER ANY MORE
>Literally 30 minutes scenes on day 1 because nobody is queueing as monster

>>153389101
"We decided Paladin Parnell was dealing too much damage and too much healing, in effect making Lazarus seem useless, so we've given him just a touch to balance him out"

Mutagen shotgun reduced from 11 per pellet to 1 per pellet

Genesys Rocket heal reduced from 175 healing per shot to 1 healing per shot

Righteous Fury bonuses removed, now instantly grants three strikes

Heal boost removed entirely.

>>153397147
Good

>R Abe nerfed
Why are we nerfing the 3rd worst assault after blitzkov and torvald? He only is good at chase damage and is utter shit in a dome, coming from someone who loves his kit

>>153399421
Toxic for monster players.

>>153399421
>renegabe is worse than Lennox
This is a joke right?

>>153399421
Monster being unable to recharge their shield while running?
Too toxic for monster gameplay :^)

>>153400059
I completely forgot about lennox's nerf because I haven't seen her since.

>>153400143
Renegabe is a great assault. Parnell>renegabe=Markov >Hyde >the others>torvald

>>153397147
its 125 healing per shot not 175

>>153400854
I was getting 175 per shot when I tried him out.

>>153399421
>utter shit in a dome

You realise the dome doesn't come down until you reach a certain amount of damage, unless the monster is shitting on you.

>>153402924
Not him, but-

>the dome doesn't come down until you reach a certain amount of damage, unless the monster is shitting on you

Ergo you want to reach it as quickly as possible, closing the window of opportunity for the monster to shit on you or for a teammate to fuck up.

Perk setup for PP?

>>153401259
maybe i'm wrong

>>153403892
Might be a perk on my end, but I think I just went full weapon swap with gold jetpack for chasing.

>>153403832
swap reload reload. double reload shaves off about 8.5-9 seconds off the reload of his super soldier and since the reload time on his weapons is 3.5s each, you shave off nearly a second on his regular reloads.

What kind fixes did they implement is trs completely retard or smth? I'm getting paired with hunters who got 0.6 hours WTF man and guess what the monster has 200 hours.

THIS FUCKING GAME MAN.

TRS team is full of stupid retarded monkeys i swear

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what is this?

I lost the password to my main account and steam support is being a pain in the ass. I have around 200 hrs on my main account and around 40 hrs on my current account.

ADD ME and if you think I suck just block me!
http://steamcommunity.com/id/EVS2

>>153404824
Just go into your updates queue and manually start the update. Worked for me.

>>153404932
I set it to high priority then it worked, thanks for the help anon

>>153404824
Steam (top right) > settings > download > change the server to vietnam

>>153404824
Dude Sex Man Div players had this same problem. Change download region to 'Nam or Vancouver. Change back once D/L starts.

The only good thing Vietnam ever gave the world.

CO-OP IS FUN AGAIN.

PRAISE THE WISE DEVS.

>>153406314
How come did they improve the AI?

>>153406607
They fixed the speed increase bugs so co-op is playable again in general.

>doubled silver key rate
what I can buy a new hunter like after 5 matches

what are they going to charge me for?

Oh who am I kidding they will NEVER get any more money from me for this shit game.

>>153406607
They fixed AI being faster than the speed of light.

NEW BUG: Egriff with a defense powerup from an elite animal can fly forever by tapping jump without using jetpack.

Incapable of descending though, and if reaching top of the map, gets killed for being out of bounds.

Dunno if it's just egriff that can do it, or if the powerup is even involved, but it was cool as shit to just boost around never falling from the sky.

>>153409296
So it's overpowered exclusive?

>man playing QCaira is mad at my Evolve play
lol

Jack, Kala, Lennox, Slim, Torvald.

Who do i buy

>>153411503
Jack Lennox or Slim

>>153411503
torvald jack or slim

>>153411503
jack and slim
rest are bad

>>153411503
Kala and Lennox are the two strongest by miles.

Anyone want to coop grind??

>>153415053
Like, in a team?

Do you get a key/exp bonus for being in a group or something?

>>153417541
You eventually get keys for being in a group

tv/puggims

guy is drunk as fuck
I'm having the best time of my life

How many games need to be played to level up profile?

>>153426058
getting to level 75 is slow as fuck even with double exp

Paladin Parnell is kind of retarded.

He is literally caira and slim rolled up into one character, with an assault shield, parnell rage, and healing buff in one ability.

I only win against him by hit & running the hunters and slowly getting ticks on the support and trapper, then hoping I can combo them down when I start to commit with the fight.

>>153427103
cry more monster shitter

>>153427247
I just played as him twice since I posted that, first against kraken and against moliath.

Neither had a single fucking hope of a chance, and never got a single hunter below 50% HP.

You can literally only win if the pparnell is bad or can't aim his healing rockets. Its insane.

Also fun fact he has the grade A fastest healing rate in the entire game with his fury buff on.

>>153428253
parnell can't heal himself and others at the same time. while you're focusing parnell down, chuck rocks or warp blasts at hank if they have one or other hunters in general.

>>153428387
>while you're focusing parnell down, chuck rocks or warp blasts at hank if they have one or other hunters in general.

I don't think you know what focus means.

>>153428253
>plays against shitty monsters
>is a shitty monster player

What can I say, shitters attract shitters.

>>153428940
go ahead and completely and utterly devote your attention to Pally and see what happens. Now do it again but this time instead of spending 4 abilities on him, spend 3 and use the 4th one on support if it's a hank or any other character if not hank. You'd notice a very big difference.

unlike literally every other medic who can heal themselves and their team while being focused, ParapaParnell cannot, and that is how you defeat him.

>tfw no coop buddies to grind my PP with

>>153427103
You just played with monster autist.
As always, you should underestand, that there's already very strong hunter combos across pro teams, and monsters still can destroy any combo.
PParnel is just not shit like emet, and will be nerfed to his level after all this bitching.

>>153429268
>ad hominem name calling and fails to refute the point

>>153428387
Yes he can. His fury increases his healing output both by increasing the healing burst and his fire rate with the rocket launcher.

>>153431393
doesn't increase his heal burst. It's just fire rate/reload/damage reduction. Although since you seem to clearly know what you're talking about, I'd like to see a video of you healing yourself and someone else against a monster who's splitting damage between the two of you.

>>153431393

Kek, don't flatter yourself. For me to refute something, you'd have to present an argument first off, and all you did was present some subjective complaints based on your own experience— as if that metric was worth anything.


>"My experience with Paladin Parnell is the opposite. I haven't lost a single game to him today, and I've played Goliath, Kraken, and Gorgon. He's not a very good medic because of the fact that he has strict dichtonomy of healing teammates and self-healing."

This is my experience and it's a worthless platform for any argument.

Bring up numbers, statistics, and/or actual objectivity into your "argument" next time, shitter.

>>153432749
you first autist

>>153432749

I wasn't the one claiming to have had an argument in the first place. All I did was point out a shitter when I saw one.

>>153433281

For >>153433130

pparnell does seem very strong

Paladin Parnell is pretty goddamn strong but his rockets cant outheal a monster focusing one player. He needs hero mode to outheal that
Ignore him and attack the support or whoever's weak. When he uses hero mode, play defensively. Go break any deployables, stop Lennox/Bltizkov from ramping up, hide and try to regen armor, whatever. Once it comes down, go ham on the support. Knock Parnell away or down cliffs if you can, its harder to heal if the patient is above him
He'll get nerfed eventually but right now he's still manageable

>>153433281
Good, we are in agreement. You don't have an argument.

>>153433858

Yes I never presented an argument and neither did you, unless that shitter babbling was supposed to be construed as one then in that case, holy kek uninstall please.

>>153433478
>>153433815
he just seems strong because almost all the other medics are garbage. there were no aggressive based medics after all the nerfs to slim and emet, they both deal piss poor damage and Rogue val has had her healing nerfed to the point it practically doesn't exist.

monsters are so used to being able to faceroll their keyboard on a single hunter and having a promised down that they never learned how to actually figure out who to focus at that specific moment. It was always "do they have a Hank? Yes? Focus him down. No? Focus medic down. Oh medic is rogue val and no hank? focus anyone that isn't medic or assault"

You can't just go "Oh look, PuffyParnell and Kala? I'll just focus kala down" or "Oh i'll just focus PanaceaParnell" Since if you dedicate to either of those you'll probably lose. Now they have to go "Oh parnell keeps healing this person, i'm going to go beat up parnell a bit then switch to someone else then switch back to parnell when he tries to heal them"

For the first time in stage 2 history you actually have to use your brain on who to focus at that moment, there isn't some obvious weak link like there is with val hank where it's just hurrdurr tunnel vision focus hank cause val can't outheal focus damage and hank can't protect himself anymore, take 1.5-2 bars of health damage and get a strike then do it all over again and kill hank faster because he has less health now.

>crow tries to tinkerbell me and fly to the top of the dome
>websling up and wallpounce him to the ground
I can almost taste the tears

>>153435151
why would crow be running anything other than 3 tiers of damage? He deserved to be airpounced.

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>>153435603
>he uses damage perks on hunters

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It's dead guys, let the general die already. When game balance is so bad and feels so shit that you go from 50k to 2.5k this fast it's not worth caring about fellas

>>153435820
only on crow and parnell due to the fact our team runs aggressive comps

>>153435968
I still like the game even though TRS as a developer team sucks donkey dick.

>>153410854
Hey man, it's called overpowered for a reason.

>tfw the only euro in these threads

>>153438545
Real yuros play good games not imbalanced casual trash like Evolve.

>Medic from 'Nam (PParnell)
>He DCs due to high ping
>His character lags outside of the dome
>everyone but him is dead (The support was Kala)
>"Restart Round"
>"Voting Failed"
>"Restart Round"
>"Voting Failed"
>The bitch wins
>he says "idc free win"
>I tell him he is a bitch and his momma must be proud to raise a bitch like him
>he says "she is dead"
>i say "idc"

either 12 year old kids play this game or poor fuckers from 'nam and korea.

>>153435981
>>153435603
This nigger knows what's up.

>>153438601
like Battlefield 1 right

Why do people want to go back to the Hunters having a 65% winrate? do they not remember how many dodges it took before somebody stuck around when dealt the Monster card?

>>153442503
cry harder monster shitter

>>153442759
>Can't beat barely functioning monsters
>Calls others shitters
Jokes on you, It's me, Dr. Dick.

There a tier list for this game? Just started playing, don't want to sink keys into shit characters.

>>153443723
good chars:
Hank, Sunny
Markov, Hyde, Parnell
Abe, Griffin, Crow
Val, Emet, Caira, PParnell

>>153430924
dunno if you're still about but im down for co op grinding for as long as i have hunters to level

>>153415053
still on?

>>153443723
Do you want "good chars" or "chars" you win with?

>>153442503
>Why do people want to go back to the Hunters having a 65% winrate?
You mean back when the game had 50k players?
But please do continue to tell me how you think your 90% win rate with monster is important enough to lose the entire fucking player base.

>>153446602
Funnily enough I've heard this exact same argument used to excuse Chinese p2w garbage.

>>153446237
I'm not going to be obsessive about picking the best of the best. Rather, I hear that there are some objectively horrible characters, such as Lazarus, and I want to avoid spending resources on characters that are just straight up not worth playing.

>>153446906
>laz
>bad

this is why you don't listen to /evog/

>>153446838
Funnily enough I've read this exact same argument on counters shitposting threads.

>>153446906
You shouldn't really listen to /evog/, they're really fucking bad with very few hours invested into the game, Lazarus isn't "objectively horrible", quite the opposite.

>>153446974
Could you go back to "League of at least our game is popular in Korea ;_;;" general please.

>>153447074
Could you go back to /b/ and shitpost there?

>>153445210
>8hrs ago
What do you thinl sunshine

>>153446970
>>153447004
>literally works against the curent dome mechanics
>requires competent teammates to have a chance to be effective
>any half-decent monster can counter him with little effort or simply focus his ass

>>153447261
>Yet still somehow manages to have the highest WR of all medics by far

>>153447552
and lowest pickrate

>>153447678
yes, only good players should pick him

not the average /evog/ shitter

>>153447737
Should only be picked in a coordinated team, ie premade or with players you know are good
Picking him with random pubs is in most cases just effort in futility

>>153447982
Don't bother, these shitters will claim that anything and everything is balanced when in a 4 man premade team of highly competitive players with mics.
So hunters are never bad and in fact need to be nerfed.

>>153447982
>Picking him with random pubs is in most cases just effort in futility

No it isn't, you just don't know the tricks. We've already had this discussion multiple times in theses threads, accept your a shitter, stop picking a different role and hunter every game and actually learn how to play the game.

>>153448094
>Wah~ I've lost 20 games in a row because of my team mates
t. sub-0.5 win rate shitter

>>153448172
t. 'I didnt get my preferred role so I quit the lobby' shitter

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>tfw no /evog/ lobby to bully
Will you guys start inviting me again, I promise to stop bullying you about your shitty jetpack usage.

>>153448172
>>153448247
>but you aren't even playing premade
>but you don't even use "tricks"
>but you don't even know how to play
Are monster mains really this delusional?

>>153448613
>People discussing their favourite hunters and how to play them are obviously monster mains

???

Is /evog/ really this desperate?

>>153448602
I just always play Support now. By the end of 99% matches support has 2 strikes anyway and since I completely suck at dodging/kiting no one can really blame me for having strikes on support character

Feels good.

>>153448602
but people need to be bullied about jetpack usage otherwise they complain that monster abilities are undodgable

>>153449531
they are if Kraken takes grounder

>>153449718
in the stupid situation where a kraken actually takes grounder he hardly even has enough damage to down a hunter through any half decent medics healing

>>153449952
Lightning Stike does 700 damage and you need 2 jets to dodge it with grounder

Good luck nigga

>>153450179
lightning strike doesnt even do 700 damage but i'll let you off the 47 points of damage and once again if a kraken is taking grounder hes probably retarded, you have 4 jets so even if he is runing grounder you can dodge 2 of them but by time he has it up again you will probably have full jets but lets say you use the other 2 to dodge aftershock, this whole time you're being healed / shielded, if you're medic is competent you'll be full health by time his next rotation of lighting strike and aftershock comes back up

>>153393364
>>153394257

Sure raw stats's are... what they are.

But there's more to them than that. A team that known's what they are doing, speed-boosted by Caira, hound the monster like no other. It's fucking brutal.

>>153450516
He also has banshee
and vortex

good luck dodging LS when you have other shit to dodge/evade
good luck having full jets during battle with kraken

>>153449531
say that to goliath's buggy ass collision on his rock

>>153451712
Yeah, Paladin Parnell is great but just him hounding a monster with the reduced dps isn't that good unless he gets the slowing bullets mutation.

Caira's better for overall chasing down monsters, Paladin Parnell is good overall but he doesn't really have a specialty other than he can tank the best out of all medics without needing hank to support him.

>>153451876
95% of banshee mines can be and should be destroyed they are so unreliable and you should only get hit by vortex's if hes coming up in your face / when hes comboing it into aftershock, there is absolutely no excuse for getting hit by vortex if hes 30+ meters away from you flying / playing sky kraken, you can see that shit from a mile off and even run out of it depending on radius

>>153452093
yeah goliath rock throw splash radius feels a bit ridiculous at the moment

So what would a full 'going nowhere monster' comp be? Crow for stasis gun, val for tranq, Kala for teleporting ahead of the monster constantly if he's getting away, then ??? for assault? Idea being that once you catch monster once it can't ever get away again unless it downs at least two people at once so there's no one to both chase and revive.

PP is so fucking shit in pubs, holy shit! People constantly moving out of FOV and moving away from me. I have higher winrate as laz

>>153453501
Well you shouldn't be playing with retard pubs then, get some friends or beg someone to drag you into a group.

>>153453501
People mostly just move in whatever way gets them away from monster, or try to at least. Unless medic is absolutely shitting out heals it's usually more important to even slightly reduce monster dps than to be in perfect spot for healing at all times. Haven't played pp though so maybe he's different.

>>153453571
I have no friends that play this game and I just want to level PP to elite.

>>153453717
Oh are you the guy who just posts the elite skins, good luck since pubs are probably too used to just getting a heal burst more than actually being healed by a AoE.

>>153448760
>tf2 last 6 games no one even bothered to focus me
well shit kek

>>153453623
MONSTER MAIN DISINFO

>>153453874
not that guy, but I want the badge at least and elite skin, so I don't have to play after they nerf the shit out of him like they do with every other hunter

Oh boy oh boy, i hope the upcoming support variant is gunna be >Lennox. :)=

assault emet when

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>game paires me with people who has 1000+ hrs
>it thinks I'm on the same level
>skill-based my ass

kek
I assume it is so dead the matchmaking just gave up and added me into the closest not yet full lobby

Is there any way to guarantee staying as a hunter crew with your party? It's bullshit being split up like that.

>>153455897
it's amazing that they still haven't fixed that
if everyone chooses ready and stays in the group, it still splits it up 4/5 times for me at least

what is it about Kala that 9/10 people don't seem to get? why the fuck do these mouth breathers consider using her beam in the first encounter in the first dome when the monster has full armor a good idea?

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>>153456652

>>153459554
a gentleman's reply

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>badges only have 1 row of colors now
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>153461707
.. but most badges have had only one row throughout stage 2 beta?

Paladin Parnell is pretty fucking sweet lads. His particle effects are kinda tacky but in an endearing way. I might take him to level 40 if his elite skin looks dope.

Haven't most had two? Also a lot of the badge colors in character level screen were changed.

>>153462301
Meant for >>153461956

>>153462301
many had only 1, some had 2 or even 3
founder shit had all unlocked

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could this be a hint towards the next monster variant or just a random thing?

>>153463297
Looks like elder kraken

>>153463614
Dunno, either it's a zombie or it's webbing for the top portion. Maybe electro gorgon?

>>153465214
It's definitely webbing.

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here's my PP lv 40 Elite skin I just got, took 49 coop games with 2x modifier that's active right now

>>153467948
Looks kinda bad

>>153467948
Finally an elite hunter skin that actually looks better than the default.

>>153456652
>kala
>good
lmfao

>>153467948

Eh, I prefer the default. The eyes look vacant. Should have made the eyes have a white iris like how the default skin has that orange glowing bit.

>>153467948
ULTRAMARINES!!!

>>153468695
Fuck off papa smurf

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>its a kala episode
god fucking damnit the support is supposed to be able to stop the monster from tunnelling the hunters one by one, yet kala does none of this shit
go play based hank instead of your shitty monster girl with a dumb lore you fucks

>getting account level to 75

the struggle is real

Huh, so EMET's respawn beacon really ain't so very terrible after all. With the fuckhuge heal radius he has with the short cooldown, he's really not that shit.

Did I get memed by /evog/? I don't get how he's supposed to be so bad when you can shit out 20k-30k heals consistently for any decently long match.

>>153472076
Sounds like you didnt visit since emet buffs

>>153472076
EMET is the most cancerous to play against when I play the more autistic side aka monster.

Fucking mechanigger keeps throwing more buoys the moment you waste your time on destroying them, spams fucking heal burst like no tomorrow with massive range thanks to buoys and does damage to you with his faggy missiles, too. And then he puts up his fucking beacon somewhere behind some shit and you need to find it and get to it or hunters keep coming back as soon as you kill another.

I've yet to lose to an EMET but he is fucking cancer to play against. Especially when paired with something like Maggie constantly throwing poons.

>>153473430
>maggie
>poons

Now that I think of it, I've never bothered to look up rule34 for this game.

I wonder...

>>153390293

Good, pparnell is broken. Needs nerf on his self heal and he should be good.

And if you want 4v4 go play left for dead.

>>153467948

Can they knock it off with this blue theme shit? It looks bad and nothing about it says "elite".

>>153469038
>stop the monster from focusing one guy
That's trappers job

>it's a nobody bothers to shoot krakren's maxed mines episode and stands in lightning
matchmaking is shitting itself with so few players playing this game

>>153475845
Left 4 Dead probably has more players than Evolve at this point

Jack players ahoy!
Can his pushing power rival Griffins pulling power?
What function does his *3* hold now that every trapper has a scanner?

Played one match in which i was interrupted a lot while using the Repulsor. Already looked up a couple of videos and it seems that it's supposed to be used from a way longer range than it thought...

And yeah... i used to, and still, play Griffin a lot, and i'm just wondering if Jack is worth the effort.

Why do people skip wraith trap? I mainly see monster players whining about it and yelling on mic before the match starts to skip it

>>153483592
His 3 is useful when you (correctly) guess that the monster just juked your ass after a planet scan, or just went in an unexpected direction in general.

I don't think range has anything to do with his repulsor's effectiveness.

>>153483592
Jack is the trapper with the absolute best survivability. Also, his satellite beacon can interrupt armour channeling if a monster is hiding inside the dome due to doing some damage.
Otherwise it's literally a fucking second planet scanner which is really, really useful.

So he's better at tracking, better at in-dome survivability against any mainly-melee monster (which is most of them) and since repulsor does not require accurate aim it's also much easier to use than, say, Griffin's harpoon due to not missing.

>>153484307
Which one is the map where the relay is at the edge of a map and with a really convenient ledge for the hunters to roach the fuck out of the monster?

Because fuck that place, those niggers could set up like no tomorrow.

>>153484797
that's weather control, I'm thinking of the one with the relay in the middle of the map in a pit

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>>153484497
>I don't think range has anything to do with his repulsor's effectiveness.

Yeah. I mean that i basically thought you were supposed to go to "grappling range" and constantly try to jump between a monster and some other hunter. I played like that for the first match and wondered why the monster so easily interrupted it. Then i saw a load of videos where people used it from a longer range (like your supposed to) and curve the beam, at one point even keeping the monster in mid-air with it. I'm just lucky that i didn't ruin other peoples games by being the worst Jack in humankinds history, as i was testing him out with a group of bots then.

>>153484621
Sounds good.

>>153484307
I think it's because it's the smallest map in the game so it's harder for the monster to escape. A griffin can cover at least half the map with his three sound spikes for instance. I don't think it has any caves for the monster to hide in either to take cover from orbital barrage stuff.

>>153486632
It has caves and a roofed area east of the starting point

>>153483592
Jacks repulser is honestly better than the harpoon depending on the monster inside the dome

Laz

>Added TO DO - Monsters - Doing damage gives monsters energy

Uhh

>>153494386
Why should monsters have to eat? They should be able to evolve just by killing and fighting in the first dome

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>playing with 0.1 hour players since last update

>pparnell players spend the whole time just healing themselves
trash

>>153446970
>>153447004
>le don't listen to evog meme
Weird it's always the obvious shitters who say that. Huh.

>>153499916
>le listen to evog meme
Weird it's always the obvious shitters who say that. Huh.

>>153500267
>evog to meme le listen

Shitters the always who it's weird that obvious say. Huh.

This new matchmaking somehow managed to make things work, holy shit, people in my game have regressed 50+ IQ points.

>>153501275
>Role selection is now just whoever can lock in the class of their choice first
Who thought this was a good idea
Everyone just quits out until they get the role they want

>>153502241
>Pick Lazarus
>Support instantly picks Bucket and proceeds to be completely and totally fucking useless
>I'm fucking retarded enough not to have dodged the second I saw he picked Bucket
Oh yeah, this is why I stopped playing.

>>153503632
>picking Laz
your fault

>>153503794
>Laz is bad meme
Laz main detected, TSR is already onto him.

Hunt matchmaking is bugged as hell. Sometimes it doesn't even spin and Arcade fires instantly.

>>153494386
>moved Behemoth Adaptation from TO DO to ACTIVE
>moved New Adaptation - Unannounced Support from TO DO to ACTIVE

>>153505331
Hopefully bob comes out before the game dies

>>153508334
They're testing him really hard to make sure he's perfect for stage 2.

>>153508435
>TR
>caring about balance or depth
>or any aspect of game design

>>153509121
It's nice that you caught the joke, now then.
The checklist indictaes that they have to make sure Bob has exactly one million armor and health, his movement speed has to be between Goliath and Gorgon, and that instead of rolling he just burrows underground and rapidly rolls around from there.

Also his stealth attack causes him to eat the hunter whole immediately, and instead of giving them a strike they have to choose a different hunter and perks.

>renegade abe as a sign in bonus for two months in a row
>all of the "big" drops are coins
Wew.

>>153509827
Really? Because I see Bob as this month's day 28 reward.

>>153509827
It looks like blood eagle Rabe, not just Rabe
I'm seeing Green Goliath, coins, Blood Eagle Rabe, coins, Bob

>Come back after the Renegade Abe and Paladin Parnell
>Both seem pretty cool
>Nerfed and apparently going to get nerfed again
I just wanted to play Parnell again :(

>>153512916
Both Abes and Parnells are still pretty good though
I think Rabe still does a fuckton of damage when chasing, even after the nerf

>>153513021
>Both Parnell's are good
woah wait what? Did regular Parnell get buffed again? The general used to shit on him. If so, I'm gonna hop back on and play Pally or regular Parnell

>>153513309
>The general used to shit on him
you mean one guy

>>153513309
he's not stage 2 release blitz or anything but he's no torvald, go ahead and play him.

>>153513309
Parnell has solid damage in and out of the dome and the only downside to him is if the medic is ass you might down yourself

3:59Maniacsquirell : I don
3:59 Moderator stevosaurus : make the shield a link and have hank take a % of dmg blocked
3:59Maniacsquirell : don't want to take away the flavor of the shield though
4:01Fresh_89 : turn down the shield recharge by 30 at least brandon
4:01Maniacsquirell : ok, 30 seconds added to Hank reload

>>153514063
>you might down yourself
Does his super suit actually hurt hI'm? I can't even see a health loss

>>153514253
I think its 25% damage or so. It just isnt visible until something actually hits you. Acid pools on orbital drill dont show the damage they deal either
You're probably just regenning before you get hit again

>this new matchmaking system
i love how much of a joke this game has become
its like they brought everyones hopes high with stage two, and then they showed everyone once again how much of good devs trs are

>>153514460
it's 5% which heals back almost instantly from the natural health regen. it used to be 25% about 9 months ago though

>>153516969
So nothing then

>there are retards that can't even use PP properly

>>153487134

Unfortunately, it is also a horrible place for monsters to fight. Roaching up and down the platform and playing ring around the rosie over and under the platform makes for hell for the monster. I almost never go in that area as monster.

>>153509353

>burrow traversal

Holy shit anon, thats actually genious and you don't even realize it. Imagine this, what if instead of rolling behemoth burrowed underground and emerged when the traversal ended. Doing so would leave tall shockwaves of dirt in his wake (ala diablos from monster hunter). This would allow him to actually escape through elevations and escape the hunters, which is currently one of his biggest problems. Technicals: Travel speed would be constant, not speed up like ball, have less range than ball, have a moderate speed. Leaves a trail of piles of dirt where the shockwaves were. Can go under mountains and such obstacles, but must have enough traversal to make it past the halfway point underneath, otherwise he gets booted back to the nearest available above ground area.

Holy fuck

>>153525914
>go through the cave wall on that one swampy looking map
Sounds kinda fun

>>153494386
Stop
Please stop
Why did balance should be getting worse with each update? Why?

>>153530185
they should just make it so that if a hunter shoots the monster once, it instantly evolves to stage 3

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>>153494386
nice bait bru- Holy fucking shit you aren't joking.

https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/september-punch-card-rewards/101361

glacial behemoth skin HYPE

>>153531695
The fact that Bob's anywhere on the list gives me false hope that he'll be released next patch

>>153532195
I suspect he'll be released along with monster passives, on that note, does anyone have any guesses as to what sorta passives they'll add, got a few ideas personaly
goliaths: chaining abilitys gives you greater damage (i.e. combos)

bob, damage reduction, increases the futher away the attacker is

wraith, the first attack it makes in combat does increased damage
cant think of any more

>>153534469
that would make goliath seriously OP, both goliaths are already top tier monsters with great combo ability

wraith better get either extremely low and slow health regen or some kind of armor regen passive considering the tiny as fuck healthbar

>>153534469
supposedly, goliath, meaty goliath, and bob are all getting the same passive. After taking enough damage, they'll enrage and get a fire aura around them
This is just a claim from some youtube fag who says he played with TRS devs though, so it might be bullshit

>>153534469
Last I heard from devs hanging around on streams and such was, OG gets CDR from doing damage, MG gets passive fire aura, Bob gets DR from taking damage.

>>153502241
>Everyone just quits out until they get the role they want

I have played solo and with up to 2 friends. We have never done this, so you can count us of that calculation.

I do agree though... there are shit-heads like that in the matchmaking every now and then.

Commonly you just wait a bit and start switching off your selection to see if such a weak-minded individual is present.

saved

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>assault runs ahead of the team and finds the monster
>who is waiting right next to a dune beetle
>MONSTER DOMED

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Heres some prime wraith screens I took for you guys while game lag shit itself

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And last one that was interesting

>>153544865
prime wraith-chan is real purdy

>>153542943
Is it supposed to be threatening?

>>153525914
I don't think you understand, it would actually leave no piles of dirt, have no sound, be incredibly fast, and if you hit a hunter while doing it you'll drag them underground and instantly kill them.

It'd be toxic for monster players otherwise.

>>153530185
Yea, we should return to week 1.

>Unkillable rval
>Unlimited boost Sunny
>Hunters can now outwalk the Monster Crow

>>153549794
>outwalk the Monster Crow

wat?

>>153551398
His Stasis Gun used to slow by 80%.

>>153551463
that's not what's written in the previous post though

>>153551463
It never did
It always was 60%

why do they insist on releasing matching weapon and character skins separately?
what's the fucking deal with color unlocking?

fucking trs

Apparently the support variation is going to be Cabot. Wonder if it'll be a reverse damage amp, where the monster deals less damage

>>153554462
>another Cabot as a support no less

that's very disappointing

post, faggots

PP is just fun to play.

Going to be a sad day next week when he is nerfed hard into oblivion.

>>153555061
Cabot is literally the boss of all hunters on his ship. So it would be cool to play as true commander that can now help team to survive longer.

Honestly with the recent changes 90% of the problem with my teams are we do so little damage, It's ridiculous.

>>153560495
wow thanks for telling me he's the boss, boss, that was really obscure info!

it'd be better if he was another class instead of being 2 support characters

and he's a meh character

>>153562031
What!? Poor monster players are already complaining how TOXIC this game is to them, if anything hunters need to be nerfed more! :^)

>>153562524
It isn't anything to do with buffs/nerfs, if anything Monsters take more damage than ever, the problem arises because players focus so heavily on utility and out of dome damage.

>get stuck with retard teammates, it's okay cause the monster is retarded too
>stage 3, It has low health due to it being retarded and running into every trap I set
>assault domes by himself, medic follows
>assault died twice in a 30 second span
>monster dies to a fucking mammoth bird after I as Maggie strip his shields and drop his health to like half a bar
I don't know if I should be laughing or upset I keep getting paired up with off the boat players

>>153564429
if only you recorded that match

>>153564429
this must be the famous toxic gameplay

>>153564429
This game is shit.

>>153565975
just like every game you play

>>153566140
Are you implying any game I'm in is shit by definition?

>>153566220
you only play bad games because you have bad taste, friend

>>153564429
this anon with another blog update
Team mates getting better, monsters are still pretty dumb

>>153567493
My team mates progressively got better with the old match making, now they've started from scratch with the new system my team mates are as dumb as rocks again.

>>153570075
mine have always been shit except for a few decent ones when it was profile level based

anyone else get a bucket sound glitch sometimes? it's when you use his recharge and it glitches out the audio so that you hear that fucking clinking until the end of the match

it has happened to me twice (and I don't play Bucket often) and once it was another player and I could hear his clinking when he got close enough

Bob's traversal was updated

http://plays.tv/s/KwWLV_dEe7ii

>>153570794
I've had it a few times. Gets aggravating quickly

>>153571157
Looks the same as before, except your speed ramps up much more quickly

>>153571559
and Bob doesn't do a near fullstop just by hitting a pebble like before

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

TRS never delivers promised skins on time

PP content is nowhere to be seen in store except for ONE FUCKING SKIN out of all the promised ones BY TODAY

>Picks RAbe
>Wonders why we can't get the monster below half armour before downing the medic and support
really makes you think

>>153574352
rabe didn't need those nerfs, he was perfectly balanced

>>153574607
RAbe has always been fucking trash unless you have a team built around chasing the monster outside the dome.

>>153574664
oh I forgot I was posting on /evog/, the home of evolve champions

>>153575098
Oh your one of those Laz tier 5 shitters.

>>153575714
oh you're one of those shitters that sucks with everyone but 2 characters (which you can play at average pub level) and deems everything else unviable

>>153575975
t. 0.3 winrate

>>153576195
that's still higher than yours, no skill shitter

>>153574664
Renegabe isn't shit

>>153547147
it just wasn't a good dome

while the assault was trying to get in the monster's face, the dune beetle was in the back line slapping the other two hunters

Anyone got tips to beat bob. All his abilities (except the wall thingy) deal shit ton of dmg. I know that it's all about getting a good open dome area, but still, he recks me every time.

>>153585441
Stand back and shoot. Watch for his wind up and dodge if it's the animation for tongue grab. If he misses that he can't do shit

>>153585441
>>153586814
pretty much this, as he is he's so slow that you may not even have to dome him to fight him, in any case just stay at range and you should be good, and always save some jetpack for dodging his tounge.

So, I heard that I can finally go back to normal queing with my friends, with them picking Hunter and me picking Monster, and still earn the normal amount of rewards?

None of that old "If you que with Hunters, you need to play Hunters" crap?

Need to know if it's worth installing the game again...

>>153588120

Also, reading on the forums that Hunt mode gets double silver keys. Does this also apply to Arcade mode?

Because if it doesn't fuck this game and fuck the devs for getting my hopes up. "Oh hey, you can duel your friends just EARN HALF THE FUCKING SILVER KEYS YOU NORMALLY WOULD" is. Gay. As. FUCK.

>>153588741
I don't know, I'm avoiding arcade like the plague because fuck overpowered and cataclysm

>>153588120
Correct.

>>153562498
Well there's two hanks and two vals

>evog is still alive
is this it? can we finally hit a capped thread for once?

>>153593008
No
It'll die in a few hours
Once /evog/ finally gives up I'll look at the TRS forums in depression until I finally give up on this

I honestly can't tell if im getting double keys or anything. Also just randomly got 2k keys from nowhere.

>>153588741
If that was the case, it would be 'this mode gives you double keys', not 'this other mode gives you half keys' when the 'half' keys is the default amount; it's even just listed as a 2x event right now, not a permanent change. But I guess going fucking apeshit over everything is the /evog/ way.

>torbad
>good

Do people not like overpowered? As the hunters getting 5 damage buffs is funny af. My friend got the monster and said his shield disappeared instantly.

>>153596778
Monster mains don't like it because they actually have a chance of losing on that map.

>all the monsters get cool passives that'll help them out
>gorgon just gets her old wall pounce bonus damage back, or worse that is her passive

>>153597525
What are the monsters passives?

>>153598489
we still dont know any of them
everyone's just making guesses based off unreliable sources or random shit the devs say

>>153596778
>>153597007
it's now horribly imbalanced in favor of monsters, they can grab 5 buffs by the time you get 1 then they just engage you and gg.

buff spawning time went from 30 > 25 > 20

>>153598489
So far Goliath gets a cd reduction with damage and behemoth gets dr when dealt a ton of burst damage

>>153605881
Why play Goliath when meteor exists?

>monster hits stage 2 without us finding it
And time to alt-tab

>>153607413
>monster reaches stage 3 without any health damage at all and we took two strikes on one man
guys

guys

its over

>>153607413
You should play trapper and show them how it's done

Perks were Evolve's second mistake.

The first mistake was Evolve.

>>153609681

I get his gripe because even if you're trapper and your team doesn't make the effort to form a line, you'll never cut the monster off.

okay fine
crows pretty decent

>>153612106
Yeah but Abe is fucking godlike. My friend gives a 3 every 10 seconds and we never lose the monster.

Is the game okay since going F2P?

>>153616746
Im new and I've been having fun. Being free definitely helps. Do you have friends to play with?

>>153593097
I care about this thread more than TRS care about their game. (I know that doesn't prove much)

laz

>>153616746
It was okay to begin with, really. It's a strong concept that's broken on a lot of fundamental design flaws. And TRS seems to be completely unable to even identify what those are as much as they've tried to fix it up. But it's certainly worth a few plays free. It's better than Battleborn. Worse than Overwatch.

how is this game still alive with no microtransactions

>>153623851
the collective hope of every person who sees its potential.

>>153623851
My friend just asked me the same question. I think they plan on adding some after they fix their game a little more or get more people on. I don't think we could even complete the coop event.

>>153620514
laz players make me wanna kms

>>153435068

Not entirely. The problem with him is you have all of 30 seconds before you lose shields and health to make the dome pop, tops. Fuck everything if they have regular parnell and cabot as well, you've got less than 15 seconds then. Either of these situations are NOT enough time to down anyone that is good, you have to whittle away at them and usually it takes longer than 15-30 seconds for a hunter to make a mistake or you catch them right (required to down a good hunter). Either lower his damage so I can actually fight the hunters or lower his self heal so I can actually fucking kill him.

New PP skins are extra cheap right now, 750 keys, since they were for some reason put in the weapon skins section.

wew just under 2k players and you can't even find enough people for a casual co-op game anymore, it just searches forever

2dead4me

>>153624516
We didn't, because turns out...

>Not telling people that EVERY coop match and not just the new map counted, meaning hundreds of people dodging in coop every minute
>The new map being straight garbage, a literal walkfest with braindead ai monster and 0 difficulty
>Bugged coop monsters, either Golitaths or Wraiths wavedashing across the map in seconds. Hope you like every single map taking 30 minutes because the monster won't sit still long enough to actually fucking evolve.

>>153631931
Can't say I'm surprised

>pick a class
>someone else doesn't get that class they wanted as you took it
>they leave
>they rejoin
>give it up on purpose so the retard babby autist can have it
>they fucking suck at playing the character of the class they wanted

this is why I don't ever give it up anymore

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>>153605937
Meteor is more "around". When Goliath does what it does, it's more focused on that, a rock is a rock, a leap is a leap and a charge is a charge.

But i really shouldn't be explaining this to you numb-nuts. Just cause it sparkles doesn't make it strictly better.

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>>153623851

>>153624058
this and the fact that they made a shit load of money from selling the game early in addition to the dlc content people bought.

To my knowledge they can still run a long time on fumes but their interest is definitely to get people spending money again before the end of the year. I'm pretty sure they can still just quit, if it doesn't work out.

>>153588741

Picky faggot

ded

>>153639841
pls no

I wish they'd go back to giving early patch notes

>Slim Hank friend combo
>They're both shit
>Every time
This is worse than when people try Laz Bucket.

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Even level-based matchmaking was better than this.

>>153645524
I prefer Laz Kala or Bucket Emet, bucket laz is pretty dumb now after all the nerfs to laz & bucket.

saved again

>Need to have a 3 strike rule for the hunters. When the hunter is down the third time. There's no coming back. Game over.
Rest in piss shit game

>>153649036
that's autist monster only shitter talk

>>153649036
So what you are saying is that evolve already 1 strike and now it's getting a second strike and after it dies one more time after that it's finally dead for good?

>>153650661
I just copied some monster shitters post on the forums, but that's a nice way of comprehending this game's situation

yee

>>153650824
Trs forums is always good for a laugh

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>playing casual coop grind
>some random retard flips shit over me having Monster as my picked class because that gives me what class I want if there are no other monster pickers or premades
>which his dumb ass doesn't seem to know and I wouldn't be surprised if he assumed I could take over monster role because that's how retarded the playerbase currently is
>run into him again
>calls me a troll and instantly leaves

wew

>>153657581
Wow

Alright what the fuck, the game has been giving me fucking PS2 tier graphics in match and ten minutes later it always crashes.

>>153659638
yeah

>its the 1 hour trapper and 0 hour medic on your team episode again
and people wonder why this game is dead

>corner monster just as it evolves to stage 3.
>Have free hits on it, break armour as it stands back up
>support runs to relay saying that we should fight it there instead, monster proceeds to just traversal straight over and kill him just as we reach them, all whilst he blames us.

Make it stop.

>>153665261
Depends where the monster evolved. If it's really far from the relay then you shouldn't fight him there even if he have no armor. Because when the dome goes down he will traverse straight to the relay and end the game (especially after the last patch forcing you to be as close as 20m to stop the monster from destroying the relay).

>>153667314
>even if he HAS no armor
My grammar is shit sry

>>153667314
As noted, we literally got back just as support died, and support take maybe 5-10 seconds to get killed since he was on 2 strikes and all alone. So yeah, definitely not that far.

>>153662525
Is it only evolve doing that?

Have they said anything about the consoles getting updates?

I'm not sure what the PS4 tier listing is, and it's probably a little different due to the updates/nerfs/buffs delay.

>>153670476
I wouldn't expect console Evolve to get any updates until, or even if, Evolve Stage 2 exits beta.

>>153670691
Yeah, next months are crucial, and how many player are around when they decide to start trying monetizing again. If that goes well, the consoles will probably follow.

>>153671550
They aren't planning on monetizing again, Evolve wasn't supposed to be sustainable, they're attempting to build goodwill for their next game.

>>153670691
>>153671550
>>153673363
Well, that's some grim news. I just got it from GS for a few bucks and bought a character pack.

Whatever patch they left off on for PS4, Gorgon is incredibly overpowered. I've only had a few wins vs him and you could tell he was incompetent then. I've seen a good gorgon at STAGE 1 fuck up an ok team.

>>153674327
The game is unsalvable, Hunters being incredibly overpowered for the first couple of weeks drove away the Monster players, Hunters not being able to stomp the Monster the monster before it can even reach stage 2 drove away the rest.

>>153675328
>Hunters being incredibly overpowered for the first couple of weeks drove away the Monster players


... lol

>>153675835
You weren't here for the first couple of weeks?

Jesus, Evolve has some terrible player retention.