PlayStation Vita General 2741 - Warring Gods Edition

Guys /hbg/ is laughing at us again.

Hoping to see more people talking about God Eater 2 since it's supposed to come out today in EU. My copy got apparently delayed.

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They keep making fun of us.
Please stop!

>>153343076
Fuck off and stay there

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__________________

>>153343124
Me too.

Are pirate cucks autistic enough to fill up another 750 posts?

>>153343124
Haha got 'em.

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butt

>>153343169
Only if you help me publisher-kun.

>>153342958

I remember when vitagen used to say that vita piracy was never going to happen.

And now we're here.
Anyway, OP.

Why isn't the fact that piracy is out on the Vita part of the news?

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>>153343190
Boobs

>>153343076
Can you stop posting about it? 90% of piracy shitposters don't even have Vitas. Looking at people waving their dicks in front of your face is really boring. We already know Vita is broken, poorfags will pirate games and this general is finished so you can kindly fuck off

>>153343229
Because you're not welcome here

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Who /pirate/ here?

>>153343245

>90% of piracy shitposters don't even have Vitas.
They do now!

>>153343245
Forgot to mention that janny is useless cunt and self moderation is myth.

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>willy wonka (gene wilder) died
>vita piracy blown wide open
>i caught a cold

Can today get any worse?

>>153343245
Ordered my Vita yesterday

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>>153342984

Wow, I can't wait to pirate all these

>>153343229
It hurts the echo chamber

look on the bright side of things: you don't have to give NISA money anymore

What's a good grip that I can mount on my Vita 1000? Preferably something I can use claw grip on.
Holding it for longer periods of time gets really uncomfortable.

>>153343521
I buy NISA games when they don't butcher them.
I have Yomawari LE preordered

>>153343556
leave us alone. you theives have done enough.

>>153343512
It's done nothing but attract shitposting like >>153343452 and >>153343556
from /hbg/. Any talk about that sort of thing here is gonna be impossible because of people like that.

>>153343592
But this is our new home

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Last thread: >>153331461

/hbg/ Wiki: http://homebrew-general.wikia.com

-SAFE FIRMWARES-
3DS: 9.2 (Downgrade: 10.7 - Entrypoints: Browser/Menuhax up to 11.0)
Wii U: 5.5.1
Vita: 3.60 (Userland)
PS4: 1.76 (Kernel)

-GUIDES-
3DS: http://pastebin.com/TQwDsWh9
Downgrade + a9lh: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki
Wii U: http://pastebin.com/8u0WAyJC
Vita: http://pastebin.com/jMVNxNSX

-RECENT NEWS-
>3DS
-11.0 Browserhax & Menuhax are out now! https://smealum.github.io/3ds/
-Install Menuhax ASAP if you're not already on CFW, because Nintendo can block Browserhax remotely without a workaround. https://twitter.com/smealum/status/758450605568372736
-You STILL can't downgrade, use CFW or install .cia files from 11.0 without a hardmod or hacked system transfer. https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/DSiWare-Downgrade
-SD card access in DS mode. https://gbatemp.net/threads/413015/

>Wii U
-IOSU allegedly happening, update to 5.5.1 recommended. https://twitter.com/Mathew_Wi/status/766504663826870272
-Enter 104.236.072.203 under DNS Settings to block updates. https://twitter.com/NWPlayer123/status/766486134356529152

>Vita
-Vitamin got leaked. Official release confirmed within 24 (5) hours. https://twitter.com/theflow0/status/770493405948481536
-HENkaku release 3 is out, enables spoofing for PSN access, update blocking, and more. https://henkaku.xyz
-Update 3.61 patches HENkaku.

>PS4
-HENkaku ported to PS4 firmware 3.55. https://github.com/Fire30/PS4-3.55-Code-Execution-PoC

I guess it's time to pick sides.

Which gen post the more butts?

>>153343602
Pirates don't care
They go wherever they want and disturb whoever they want without caring about the consequences. They care about no one but themselves.

>>153343602
You do realize people only do that because it's so easy to get a rise out of vitagen, don't you?

>>153343641
kek

>>153343648
I like both gens, but I was in favor of merging with /ps4gen/, so whatever.

hahaha /vitagen/
HAHAHA

Dragon's Crown, is the online dead?

>>153343656
You are not fucking helping, you keep throwing fucking barrels of oil on the fire by bitching and whining like a giant cunt which proceeds to draw shitposting like moths to the flames.

Basically what >>153343702 says. You are the worst offender here.

So when are chinks going to make third party memory cards? I don't want to give the kikes 60 bucks for a 32gb card.

>>153343125
The update is encrypted? Sorry if I'm being dumb, but the game plays all right. It's just that this button to update, when finished downloading, gives an error.

>>153343641
Is there a reason to leave 3.18 yet?

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>>153343245
>vita sales skyrocket after piracy gets announced
>memory card prices triple
>you guys killed the vita!
cry some more

>>153343702
>>153343590

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Someone is trying really hard to shitpost here

>>153343726
STOP LAUGHING!!!

>>153343768
There's a bunch of Vita games workable right now but if you enjoy ePsP and PS1 you can wait a bit until it matures more.
>>153343737
Nobody knows, could be months or years.

>>153343734
Fuck off apologist. You can fuck off back to hbg with the rest of the poorfags

Any place worth migrating to from this kindergarden? /v/tard autism is really something I can't cope with.

>>153343756

I don't get it, for some reason I can dump my TxK update but not my Freedom Wars one. Sorry bro.

>>153343768
3.18 has eCFW and TN-X
3.60 has vita game piracy and VHBL

>>153343770
Ahh the delusional pirate that doesn't realize that software sales are just as important, or potentially more important than hardware sales.

>>153343869
r/vita
/hbg/
depending on your piracy stance

>>153343869
Learn moon and abandon this shitty site for superior japanese chans

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Reminder if you work FOR FREE (LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT) you're less than those who get paid.

>>153342924
At least in the TL side I for one support fanTL even if it the scene does get cancerous.

It brought Kara no Shoujo for official release which I'm enjoying.

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>>153342958
Long time no see Vitagen
What kind of imports are you waiting on?

>>153343869
Pretty sure this is business as usual, just with the flavor of piracy shitposting rather than merging shitposting.

>>153343916
Pirates are subhumans.

>>153343945
I spent 75 dollars on PDX today.
Its pretty good.

Still waiting on my copy of GE2RB w/ GER code.

If the single anti-piracy faggot would shut the fuck up /hbg/ would leave, and piratefags would assimilate seamlessly

>>153343916
>someone actually tricked this anti-piracy dipshit into breaking global rules
WEW

>>153343546
Respond please or I'll cancel my preorder of Fate/Extella.

>>153343869
Reddit

>>153344032
Piratefags shouldn't be allowed to assimilate.
They are not welcome here.

>>153344032
Yes, it's gotten to the point where he's just another shitposter like the others.

Die a Hero, or live long enough to become the Villian

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>>153343945
>What kind of imports are you waiting on?
Recolove!

>>153344085

As long as they shit up and don't rub their piracy in people's faces, more vidya discussion is welcome.

This wouldn't have happened if we merged.

>>153344085
The thing is nobody would know they're piratefags. Things would go back to normal if you just fuck off

http://doc.dl.playstation.net/doc/psvita-oss/

>>153344119
>>153344127
Go back to homebrew general already apologists

>>153344085
Piratefags should be allowed to assimilate.
They are welcome here.

God, how does this feel? To have your keyboard inputs stolen and modified. Your life's work fucking taken in an instant and raped, strung up for all to see.

>>153344032
This but main problem is we're being raided since yesterday and these faggots are generating posts between themselves.

>>153344163
I'll keep calling you out for the piece of human trash you are don't worry

>>153344163
> pirating text
kek

>>153344163
Please don't trigger the autist anon.

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Instead of furthering this conversation post bullet recipes while we wait.

>>153344165
They're only raiding right now because this one idiot keeps handing out (You's)
They would have gotten bored of it yesterday if he didn't indulge them

>>153344163
Pirating and modding posts is not allowed

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>>153344127
Not him but pirate-fags should die.

I feel bad for buying games on sale, yet these thieves revel in their unholy acts.

>>153344187
I'll keep calling him out for being the fine and level-headed gentleman he is don't worry

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Finally I will be able to play some persona on the go, thanks vitagen!

>>153343945
>That costume
How cute

>>153344254
Kill yourself thief

>>153344280
>there are people that owned a vita that didn't already own P4G

>>153344254
>>153344303
Love every breath my good gentleman!

>>153344237
More like we're here to stay but we're no different than you and JUST want to play games for varying amounts of expenditures.

>>153344280
You can save at least 500MB of space on your MC by using this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VitaPiracy/comments/509p0r

Possibly more. Some people think 3.1GB filesizes fluffed up without your control are okay.

Enjoy your game.

http://vitageneral.com/?page_id=163
>Q: is it hacked yet???
>A: no, stop being poor
I think some updating is in order!

>>153344328

>there are people that want to play trash like P4G

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Wow, I leave because of shitposting for a good 5 months and to find yet still more shitposting now I take a gander back.

This shit wouldn't happen if we had accounts.

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>>153343894
>console sales stop
>developers stop developing for the vita
oh wait, it actually hapenned in the west

>>153344359
There are accounts on Reddit.

>>153344163
top jej

>>153344349
You are poor and think you're entitled to handouts
Literal cancer

>>153344359

You have to go back.

>>153344358
nice

>>153344359
I missed you semen holmes

>>153344397
I'm financially stable and can buy my own games, dump them DRM-free and continue to use them?

Wow!

>>153344236
How are guns compared to melee? Balanced or over/underpowered? I'm still waiting for ny copy

>>153344367
>>>/v/
Contain your ignorance there


>>153344427
You don't buy games. Lying on the internet isn't cool.

>>153344349
>More like we're here to stay but we're no different than you and JUST want to play games for varying amounts of expenditures.
I was talking about the /hbg/ raiders there. I want non-shitposting piratefags to assimilate

While basic homerew should be allowed here, blatant piracy posts like this one should stay in /hbg/

You guys realize its literally 2 people right? One guy trying to troll and the other guy taking his bait. Or hell it might even be one guy doing both sides. Just ignore it and move on.

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>>153344349
thanks anon, I have 1,7 gig of free space any recommendations?
weeb games are more than welcome

Does anybody have a link to that download list thing for the online store?

Need an easy way to sift through shit and get them downloaded.

If you go to homebrew there are posts actually talking about shitting up /vitagen/.

Why don't these pirates just play games now they stole them already?

>>153343359
Yeah, me too, it's fucking killing me

Weird thing is at work I'm relatively fine, but at home I can't stop sneezing

>>153344552
too busy stealing your general

>>153344486
Pretty sure it's more than 1 people.

>>153343894
You mean the non-existent Vita hardware sales?

>>153344356
This.

>>153344552
Because our local idiots won't stop feeding them.

>>153344552
Vitagen's suffering is hilarious.

>>153344595
I'm not sure why you think lying down and spreading your buttcheeks for pirates will make them go away

>>153344675
Because they have no reason to leave? It's Vita-related discussion in a general about the Vita?

You guys had a period when simple homebrew came out, now they have even more relevant discussion and it's back in full force.

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>>153344552
>games get stolen
>thread gets stolen
maximum cucking

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>>153344675
What's the difference, you're getting fucked in the ass either anyway

>>153344675
They've managed to convince themselves stealing is not actually stealing.

They're a lost cause and God's disgrace, there's no changing them.

>>153344761
Allowing piracy discussion will allow every sort of /v/ermin to come in
But that's fine with you obviously

>>153344770
>stealing
I'm not sure you understand how stealing works.

>>153344675
You can report, you know?
And post anime vita pics, possibly not butts as they've become stale.

>>153344675
Ok let me explain it in retard terms for you

There are currently 3 main groups of posters in vitagen

>regulars
Average vitagenner. Stance on piracy doesn't matter
>people from /hbg/ who just want to bully vitagen
They will leave as soon as they stop getting easy (Yous)
>piratefags who want to talk about games and nothing else
Will assimilate and become indistinguishable from the regulars over time.

>>153344552
>If you go to homebrew there are posts actually talking about shitting up /vitagen/
no there aren't

>>153344762
When can I pirate that cutie?

>>153344797
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property#Infringement.2C_misappropriation.2C_and_enforcement

>>153344818
Piratefags are /v/ermin who can't assimilate
I'm not sure why you don't understand this

>>153344795
Video games are video games, regardless of whether you payed for them or not.

>>153344848
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Theft

Should I play DT2's demo first or I could play it right away?

>>153344848
>steal, thief, rob
>zero hits on the page
???

>>153344870
And I don't want to associate with thieves.
In fact I've already reported this piracy to Sony. Hopefully they shut it down.

Moon Hunters PlayStation Vita Version Cancelled
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/08/19/moon-hunters-playstation-vita-version-cancelled/

>>153344878
So you knew what I meant but argued semantics to waste time?
For what purpose I might ask?

>>153344818
>They will leave as soon as they stop getting easy (Yous)
So never? Vitagen has always been easy to shit with.

I bought a Vita, a 32 GB card then a 64 GB card and every single one of my games. Stop feeding the fucking trolls. Who gives a shit if you buy it or pirate it. Stop giving them easy responses.

>>153344863
I've been posting on vitagen since around thread 500
I am now a piratefag now that it's possible
I keep the piracy talk on /hbg/ where it belongs

Piratefags are not some /v/ boogeymen like you make them out to be, they have always been here.

>>153344934
Congratulations, you made a difference!

>>153344940
You linked a completely useless wikipedia article.
For what purpose I might ask?

>>153344675
Believe it or not, pirates like to play vidya too.
When we're not crippled by the burden of having too many choices

>>153344934
>And I don't want to associate with thieves.
Sorry buddy, but you don't own this general. It doesn't matter what you want.

>>153344952
>they aren't some boogeymen
We literally predicted that if the Vita got pirated they would come here and shitpost, and they are literally doing that right now.

>>153344940
Actually I assumed context from what you replied to, I didn't give one thought towards your link since I knew it was a waste of time.

>>153344995
If you actually cared about video games you'd want to support them so more games you like would keep getting made. Instead of being a freeloader like you are.

>>153345002
Not to mention he insulted staff because they work for no monetary compensation.

>>153344848
It's unauthorized copying anon. We just want to share :(

>>153344934
Feel free to leave anytime.

You've been posting about how you always report homebrew stuff to sony for years now, and where did that get you?

>>153345024
Because you keep feeding them.
I don't know how anyone can be as dumb as you

>>153345024

yeah now they're talking about what video games they're going to play instead of circlejerking about anime butts

>>153344825
Why do you lie so blatantly when someone can easily go check?

>>153344934
How did you report it?
>>153344952
Don't assume your experience is the norm.
You can detect /v/ermins.

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>>153344454
>Contain your ignorance there
Not an argument

>>153345083
>what games they're going to steal*
FTFY

>>153345089
that's a good question, so tell me why you did it.

>>153345045
I do buy games famalam. I buy plenty of games. Most of them are things I pirated first.

Is it recommended to play Danganronpa Ultra Despair Girls before watching the Danganronpa 3 anime?

>>153345089
I like how you shift the burden of proof to make it sound as exasperated as you claim.

Nice one.

> Vita gets hacked
> Sony prepares firmware 4.0 with new features and beefed up stability, while releasing 3.61 to calm down devs
> Jacks up vita prices to retailers because of "increased demand" and "low supply"
> Waits until every single vita out there gets sold out, every last stock of their overpriced memory card gets bought
> Release 4.0, piracy method on 3.60 doesn't work anymore, also changed every single cryptography key
> Release new PSV model with even more stability, comes with firmware 4.0
> All new games, all game updates are now signed using 4.0 keys, requires 4.0 firmware
> ???
> PROFIT

I won't be surprised if some devs delays several game releases.

>>153345024
Literally fuck off you literal faggot.

>>153345130
It's recommended to avoid danganronpa entirely because it's shit

>>153345130
Pretty sure they're unrelated but I would go with DR:AE first yeah.

>>153345107
Thanks for fixing it.

yeah now they're talking about what video games they're going to steal and play instead of circlejerking about anime butts

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>>153345041
>it's not stealing because semantics
>it's still not illegal because I'm above the law

>>153345128
>pirate scum expects anyone to believe this
No one believes you.

>>153345135
Nintendo tried that, look where it got them.

>>153345173
Aw, your little wikipedia article ain't backing you up?

>>153345135
add
>Sony starts developing AAA first party games on the Vita

>>153345130
yes. the anime assumes you've seen it and will spoil the game for you.
>>153345167
it doesn't come up until pretty far in, but they're absolutely related.

>>153345135
That's a great theory, unfortunately it requires sony to care about the vita.

>>153345135

>> Sony prepares firmware 4.0 with new features
You already let the realm of plausibility

>>153345132
It's within the first 10 posts. I'm not a /v/ermin spoonfeeding scum you can go look yourself.

>>153345173
>It's not stealing because semantics
This is objectively true.
>it's still not illegal because I'm above the law
Come on lad. We acknowledge we're breaking the law. The law =/= personal ethics.

>>153345230
So? It could be within the first 750 posts, doesn't mean you matter.

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>>153345135
>firmware 4.0 with new features

;_;

>>153345196
Nintendo's pretty careless.

Look at the PS3. We haven't been able to downgrade without motherboard soldering involved. Later revision also made it impossible.

>>153345173
It's not stealing, full stop
the legality is where semantics are at play

>>153345197
I'll take More Things That'll Never Happen for $500, Alex

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>>153345254
>The law =/= personal ethics.
People aren't the ones who make laws based on ethics?

Hmm, I could have sworn.

>>153345254
>>153345173
Pirates don't care about the law. They think they're entitled to whatever they want.

>>153345135
Absolute delusion.
Jesus christ, you think Sony will lift another finger for the Vita?

>>153345323
and lexical semantics, concerned with the analysis of word meanings and relations between them.

>>153345339
the joke
------------ <- a line
(free space)
your head (not pictured)

>>153345340
And laws are nothing without somebody to enforce them (government and police) and somebody else to acknowledge them and let them be enforced (citizens).

With no backing, the law is nothing. If everybody gave up laws overnight, aside from totally anarchy, they'd be nothing better than the mediums that relay them.

>>153345398
They will if anyone tries to fuck with the PS4
Which is what pirate scum are doing.

>>153345372
I'm not entitled to whatever I want at all. But if there's something I can easily get without hurting somebody, why not take it?

>>153345315
I really doubt Sony cares about the Vita as much as they cared about the PS3.
As soon as they get the hack in, all games from future firmwares work just fine. It happened on the PS3, PSP, 3DS.

Besides that, what kind of
>new features (lol)
would Sony even add ot the Vita that would make people want to give up their chance to pirate?

>>153345445
You're next.

>>153345446
Because you are hurting someone even though you think you aren't.
You're hurting consumers by choosing to take that game for free instead of paying for it.
You're hurting developers by choosing to not support them and instead take the game for free.

>>153345446
I can steal a mango and it won't hurt anyone.

They don't get money but no physical harm has befallen them, only financial harm.

>>153345514
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>153345206
>>153345227
>>153345261
>>153345398
>>153345458
>The Sony is Murrika crowd
Ignorant keks

>>153345524
Will pirating this get rid of that retarded watermark? It goes right over the text box and ruined a lot of my screenshots.

>>153345524
Vita Xanadu localization will be cancelled since you can already pirate the game in its entirety now

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>>153345524

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>games go on sale for like 10-20$
>pirates somehow cannot afford that
I have a massive backlog from sales alone.

>>153345514
>Because once you turn to piracy, you have no way of supporting developers!
Can I join you on your soapbox?
I'm saying what you want to hear.

>>153345567
Should be able to, actually. It's just a PNG file, and we now have complete control over the file system to just delete it or swap it out with an empty image.

>>153345609
fucking nice
buyfags BTFO

>>153345514
I'm not hurting anyone because I'm taking away the original copy. I'm merely cloning it.

>>153345519
Stealing a mango takes away the copy that somebody else could have bought.

>>153345550
Yeah, because Sony Japan added so many features and tried so hard on the Vita, right?

They sure were successful at circumventing piracy on the PS3/PSP too, right?

>>153345609
>Because once you turn to piracy, you have no way of supporting developers!
And it returns to your word versus mine.
I simply don't believe that pirates who already downloaded a game in full will choose to support the game after beating it.

>>153345595
You could have bought a bigger memory card with that money.

>>153345662
The problem is your word holds no merit because you're forcing an assumption as fact across a large group of people who don't accept it.

>>153345651

The Vita has been good at stopping piracy so far. It's been what, five years? That's longer than most consoles can claim to be pirate-free for. And thanks to scene drama there's still a lot of hacking left to do.

>>153345662
That's because, as plenty have stated, you are a terrible human being held back only by the rules you've chosen to follow, and you believe everyone else is like that too, because you're an autist who has never connected with somebody else and learned people are all different.

>>153345689
And your word holds no merit because you're a criminal

>>153345648
Right, so instead I get a magic scanner and scan the mango at the market and print a new mango, thus not purchasing the mango at the market, and eat it without paying a cent.

Does the mango grower get any financial reward for his mango growing?

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Get a feel so complicated

>>153345738
Nice ad hominem, buddy.
Shit argument in spades.

>>153345651
>They sure were successful at circumventing piracy on the PS3/PSP too, right?

They just cut people off from online for the PS3 which was a big hit, and released the PS4. As for the PSP, sales were still decent enough in Japan, and they just stopped making western releases for the games.

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>>153345524
hey that's my god eater avatar

>>153345738
then let a judge strike me down where I stand

>>153345729
No I simply know what pirates are and how you all are simply criminals.
You trying to take the moral high ground while performing a criminal act is hilarious.

>>153345793
Did they pirate it?

>>153345741
The mango grower gets his reward from the person who buys the mango you cloned from.

Does anyone know what triggers Fatal Misama (Trillion's 1 hit ko) in her final form? It seems random to me.

It's also super bullshit the last boss has an unavoidable 1hit ko. Or is it just like the first puppet where you HAVE to die the first time?

Does this guy have literal, unironic, non-buzzword autism

>>153345852
Yeah how dare I try and stand up for people who should be paid for their work.

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>>153345771
>and they just stopped making western releases for the games.
Shit time to be a Westerner then.

Maybe it's time to fully study Japanese and move to Japan.
I know they don't like piracy over there as well, I guess this is how my life is going.

Piracy is stealing because if it isn't you're arguing that the only person who did work of value in the creation of the game is the person who made the CD and packaging. Or memory card or whatever.

I dunno why people have to bullshit themselves about it. I pirate stuff and can still recognize it. You're stealing because it's easy. And in most cases you're stealing something you otherwise never would have bought so you're not hurting anyone, perse, but, it's still stealing. You lose a lot of intellectual credibility by claiming it isn't, in pursuit of a moral high ground your opponents will never give you because THEY see it as stealing anyway.

>>153345852
if he's not baiting, a definite yes
I hope he's at least in his later years of life, he's going fucking nowhere if this is how he acts as a young adult

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>>153345852
Maybe.

>>153345891
>>153343916

>>153345912
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Piracy
It's sharing information with your neighbor.

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>God Eater 2 delivery was delayed
>Have to endure all this pirate shitposting until the game gets delivered

>>153345843
It's a market stall he grew the mangoes he sells, silly goose.

Now then, he can just eat the mangoes himself right?
But then what will you scan in the future if growers don't sell their produces? You will actually have to start growing your own mangoes, rendering the scanner useless.

>>153345948
Kill yourself /g/tard

>>153345982
Nice argument.

>>153345708
Doesn't matter how long it's been pirate-free though. The point is that since it's already broken, Sony's going to do little to nothing to prevent this from escalating further.

I mean, they could come out with a new firmware, but with a bit of work they'll get around with it like on the PS3/3DS/PSP.

They could make a new hardware revision like the PS3/PSP, but honestly, anyone who was going to buy a console for piracy would know how to look for a 1k/2k.

Best thing they could do is release a new hardware revision like the PSP and PS3. Although the PSP revisions eventually got broken, the PS3's didn't as far as I know.
But I can't see Sony giving enough fucks, especially with the rumor of a new PSP-like device or w/e.

>>153345771
>They just cut people off from online for the PS3 which was a big hit, and released the PS4
Niggah, piracy existed on the PS3 long before the PS4 was released.

> As for the PSP, sales were still decent enough in Japan, and they just stopped making western releases for the games.
I'll give you that, but we're talking about prevention of piracy, not sales.

>>153345948
Does sharing information requires cracking encryption?

>>153346013
Go move to Russia since you think communism is a good thing

How many of you use crunchyroll on your Vita?

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>>153345948
>It's sharing information with your neighbor.
Sharing your own created information is fine, but this is not your information and the creator did not want to give it to people for free.

>>153345948

No. The GNU people are faggots and wrong. It's stealing. If you're legitimately arguing that there's no value in the intellectual and creative work that goes into making a game.... I dunno what to tell you. You're literally saying that the only value a game has is the CD it's printed on. That's what you're arguing for right now. Like I said, I pirate shit but this "it's not stealing it's sharing" is fucking nonsense. Own up to what you're doing like a man. Or admit that you think that work done with your brain has no value whatsoever, only the creation of physical objects. In which case your opinion can be discarded as laughably retarded.

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>>153345574
>Vita Xanadu localization will be cancelled

That better not be fucking true.

>>153346054
crunchyroll is cancer

>>153346062
sweet fucking christ if THAT'S what you got out of MGS2 you're not even worth responding to

>>153345840
actually that's a character from Cyber Sleuth that I made my avatar look like by complete accident. I played the game myself and everything but only just now realize how similar they look
it's me, I'm the pirate

>>153346047
Another great argument.

>>153346042
Well if it ever reaches the same status as the 3DS, we'll be able to share encrypted files and force the OS to decrypt it on the spot as if it was legit.

Guess you're fucked then. As for your actual post, I don't know I'm not a lawyer.

>>153346026

>The point is that since it's already broken
Slightly. What you're looking at is the Vita equivalent of the 3DS's Palantine CFW; a buggy, primitive way of pirating games that won't be updated because everyone who made it got pissed off.

I'll be surprised if we get to play 3.61+ games this year.

>>153346081
It's shit, don't worry.

>>153345975
He will continue to grow mangos as long as normalfags like yourself keep buying them when you could just scan it for free.

>>153346047
>communism
>Not understanding that piracy is libertarian instead of authoritarian

>>153345912
>you're stealing something you otherwise never would have bought

This isn't true though. People say this all the time, but you would have at least bought some of it when the prices dropped.

>>153346026
Let's be honest here. We ARE talking about sales. Sales are what keep the games coming over. So if piracy pushes sales too low, like it did with the PSP, we stop getting game localizations. That's why we are only now getting the God Eater games.

>>153346114
It's not like you've made any actual arguments other than everything should be free, communism is good, pls give handouts.

Selling my broken Vita 1k, flex cable broke otherwise sound/touch/hardware all good. How much would it go for?

>>153346108
What I got was people only listen to truths they want to hear, which is happening now.
Thus truths would clash in the natural world, but in the digital world there is no winner.

>>153346114
>>153346142
To be fair the decrypted contents aren't for sale anyway, if we really argue semantics there are literally no lost sales for the decrypted content.

Guess it's the difference between recording TV shows on VHS instead of buying them when they were official released.

Hey guys. Just got in on this.
Trying to do a dump of some physical cartridges. Both Phantasy Star Nova and Digimon World Next Order from cart.
Trying to dump with vitamin gives my applications errors before the dump process even begins. Any way to get past this? I'll post mega links to them when they're finished if I can get some help.

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>>153344929

>>153346151
If only publisher-kun figured that part out.

Is borrowing a physical game piracy?

>>153346065
It's. Objectively. Not. Stealing. Your moral objection is irrelevant here. You can still disagree with it, but it's semantically distinct from stealing.

>>153346125
If we all scanned it he would stop selling.
You're practically leeching off people's good will.

>>153346147
Probably not a lot.
You can get used vita's for $80 easily and factory refurbished go for $110.
Having a broken Vita isn't worth much.

>>153346176
Wait a day for the proper, updated release:
https://twitter.com/theflow0/status/770493405948481536

>>153345595
>buying games on sale
>supporting developers
pick one and only one

>>153346054
>streaming anime
faggot

>>153346243
>Gravity Rush will never go on sale for <$1 again
Why live?

>>153346228
Good thing we have those copies to keep sharing ourselves without his intervention or approval, huh?

I guess people who use Linux (:^)) leach off goodwill too. See >>153343916

>Well Linux doesn't matter!

>>153346243
Something goes towards them
Sony takes 30 percent

>>153346216
You're taking something that costs money, for free.
Stealing.
Argue semantics all you want, but you're still a thief and a criminal.
Intellectual properties have value.

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>>153346081
imagine the butthurt when the only way to play in english is a hacked fan translation

>>153346132

I mean I personally approach it with the policy of: if I couldn't pirate it, would I buy it? The answer is basically "yes to video games and books, not to TV and movies"

Hell I don't even bother watching those if they're slightly inconvenient to pirate. So I buy books and games and just try to be honest with myself about it.

I'm not arguing it isn't stealing. I'm just saying let's be real here. Someone who pirates 500 games probably wouldn't have bought 1/10th of them if piracy wasn't an option. This isn't an all or nothing discussion here. Most pirates buy some games. And people who buy games sometimes pirate (for example: I pirated DaS1 because I'd already bought it on 360, and a couple games to try that I played for an hour or two and uninstalled because I didn't like enough to buy. Or anything with uPlay I buy on deep sale and then pirate to avoid the uplay). The problem is that people (on both sides) want to make this into a black and white 0/100 issue tied directly to the moral and total value of the people they're talking to. And they want to avoid the feeling of guilt they get if they admit that it's stealing. Just man up faggots. On both sides.

>>153346054
STOP STEALING ANIME

>>153346062
>he says, as he steals content from a videogame

>>153346176
The error I'm getting is when vitamin auto-launches the game app. It's "Save Core File Succeeded ux0:data/psp2core-1472550662-0x00020b309b-eboot.bin.psp2dmp"

>>153346303
But nothing is being taken anywhere.
Stupid plaintiffs have argued this for years to little avail.

>>153346132
>Let's be honest here. We ARE talking about sales. Sales are what keep the games coming over. So if piracy pushes sales too low, like it did with the PSP, we stop getting game localizations. That's why we are only now getting the God Eater games.

We're really not though? We're talking about whether or not Sony will attempt to prevent further piracy on the Vita. And whether or not they'll be successful at it. If you backtrack to the replies you can see that we're mostly talking about Sony preparing a supposed firmware 4.0.

Sales is a different topic and I agree with what you said, but Sony's going to do squat to prevent further piracy.

>>153346294
If you're okay with eating mangoes for the rest of your life, yes.

The mango grower will never grow any new fruits since he won't be able to sell them to counter the cost of growing them

>>153346228
>If we all scanned it he would stop selling.
Yeah, he probably would. But people will always buy them.
>You're practically leeching off people's good will.
Yes I am. So?

>>153346237
I would gladly wait, but i'm certain it's something I did wrong on my part.

>>153346228
Setting up and properly using the scanner takes time and know-how. You can never expect the majority of the market to adopt the scanning technology. Plus, the friendly mango vendor ensures he'd never sell you a rotten mango. People like the security and convenience and continue to patronize his stand. Some people who scanned the mango think the vendor grows exceptional mangoes and buy from the vendor as well.

>>153346357
The devs are losing out on potential profit since you took that game for free.
But you'll just say you were never going to pay for it anyway

>>153346384
Then that's his prerogative.

>>153346398
>Some people who scanned the mango think the vendor grows exceptional mangoes and buy from the vendor as well
These people are such a small minority of people using the scanners they might as well not exist.
They're just trying to absolve themselves of guilt.

>>153346414
I mean, they haven't bought the games so far.

People who didn't own a Vita prior to piracy were obviously never going to buy said games. At this point, Sony just makes little profit off hardware sales, and that's about it.

>>153346414
>potential profit
Cannot prove intent to do anything, let alone buy.

What is said and what is done are two different things irrelevant to each other.

But continue projecting your morals.

>>153346457
Get a different argument, you have been spamming this for hours and nobody agrees, not before, not now, not later, not ever

>>153346461
But there are people who own a vita already, and will instead stop buying games and instead pirate.

>>153346216

Ok, let me try again. It is stealing. Ownership, control, value, property, etc are all concepts we, as human beings with brains capable of the abstract thinking required to create video games, acknowledge and understand.

I get it. You're not that intelligent. You feel guilty and want to not feel guilty. It's hard. You're evidently not a strong abstract thinker if you see property and rights as being tied only to physical objects and theft as being ONLY a question of physical objects.

"Piracy isn't theft" is an anti-intellectual argument in favor of only assigning value to physical goods. Theft is taking something of an >0 value from someone without their permission. Their right to sell or distribute the work that they did, their ownership of that work (which comes with that right) is being taken away. That's theft.

Again, I'm not objecting to piracy or saying I don't pirate shit. I'm saying that you personally are not very intelligent because you believe it isn't stealing. That's all. I'm just telling you a thing that's true. I'm sorry.

And I was one of the people arguing for piracy and homebrew belonging in this thread, and think that other rage-y antipiracy guy is autistic as fuck. But holy shit do you make it hard to be on your side when you're this stupid.

>>153346514
And why does that concern you?
It's none of your business what other people do, regardless of much you think it involves you.

Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

>>153346303
I AM a criminal, but I'm not a thief. I'm not taking anything. I'm copying something that costs money. IP having value doesn't change the fact that replication doesn't destroy or remove the original from the market.

>>153346357
Like this poster said, it's even been found distinct in court. Many times.

Again, being anti-piracy is your own moral decision. You can't (objectively) call it theft. They are not isomorphic actions.

>>153346539
Because those people not buying future games can affect me not getting future games released here.

I'm not sure why you're so dense.
Oh wait it's because you're a pirate apologist.

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>>153346321
I don't care about the "butthurt" or whatever. All I care about is if I get to buy and play it or not. It looked like a lot of fun so I want to play it. However if it doesn't actually come over and the scenario you put forward plays out then I'll never play it and that's a bit stink. I'm neither poor as fuck, a massive jew or general fucking low moral shit character kind of person so I never pirate stuff.

>>153346537
What a forced argument. Starting off hot with that smear word and forced personal projection of what you (and possibly the majority) think it is.

You then proceed to an ad hominem, because breaking down your opponent psychologically lets you think you've won as they might possibly get impacted by it and have trouble refuting.

You then proceed to attack the original argument with once again a personal projection with no substance and forcing your interpretation as should be expected by this point.

You then try to save face by claiming you're middle of the road yet still superior.

>>153346514
Any fan of the Vita and has been actively gaming on it know the state that the console is in and generally buy their games. So I don't think the number of people who'll suddenly stop buying games will drop.

If it does, it'll probably be balanced out by the number of people who'll buy the game after they pirated it to support the developers.

If anything
I can finally see IFI burn

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Vitagen has been going full retard for the past 24 hours straight

When will it end?

>>153346632
>If it does, it'll probably be balanced out by the number of people who'll buy the game after they pirated it to support the developers.
Doesn't happen

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>>153346638
Never. As The Patriots said.

>>153346324
It's the 1/10 the would have bought that are important.

>>153346359
I know you are talking about all that, but the part I was talking about basically comes down to sales because the nuclear option is publishers just throw it under the bus and stop supporting it. It's already tough enough to get them to make games for it in the west.

>>153346386
For the sake of argument, imagine you can only produce copies of that mango for 3 years and you can't make copies of the copies

That means for 3 years you can make copies of that mango for you, and all your friends. However after 3 years you go back to make another copy, but because you and your friends never bought any, he is no longer growing any to sell, and you and your friends all starve.

>>153346414
this, there have been plenty of times that I saw a $60 game, had no interest in buying it, then picked it up when it when on sale for $20

>>153346537
>It is stealing.
No it isn't.

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>>153346586
>i'm neither poor as fuck, a massive jew or general fucking low moral shit character kind of person so I never pirate stuff.
nice projection, swearing is immoral btw

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>>153346638
Depending who will first give up. Shitposters or idiots taking the bait

>>153346740
It's bait if pirate-fags didn't really believe the shit they are spewing.

>>153346717
>your friends all starve.
Sucks for them, should have hopped on the scanner train.

Guys /mgg/ is laughing at us.

>>153346679
It doesn't matter how many times you say this. It's never going to be true. I literally have pirated copies of Bravely Default and Bravely Second on my 3DS and I bought collector's editions of both of them day one. Same with Fire Emblem Fates and a fuckload of games on Steam. And I haven't pirated a Vita game yet, but Persona 4 is the only game I was interested in playing at first. I'll probably buy some more shit once I fall in love with my pirated copies.

>>153346798
who?

>>153346798
>There's an /mggg/

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>>153346740
It's unlikely that either will happen anytime soon, considering the shitposters are multiple people, and the one taking the bait is a literal autist who probably has to wear a helmet indoors.

>>153346845
And no matter how many times you claim you and others do this, I'll never believe you.

>>153346630

I'm not debating. Your opinion is wrong and you're stupid for holding it. Therefor I'm not debating with you. I'm ignoring your 'points' and presenting you with facts and the right point of view.

I am middle of the road. I buy and pirate, with a personal ethical stance on when I do one or the other, and I acknowledge that piracy is stealing because it is. I'm tired of this discussion being impossible because people are too stupid to have it.

I'm superior because I'm smarter and understand what I'm talking about, not because I do or don't pirate. I'm not interested in spurious and pointless claims of 'moral' superiority. That's not a thing. Like I said, I've presented the facts and the correct answer. It is theft because theft deals with concepts that extend beyond picking things out of someone's pocket.

You're stupid. Either you're stupid because you can't understand the concepts that theft extends to, or because you genuinely believe that value is only in physical objects and not in intellectual effort. Overcome these deficiencies so you don't shit up these conversations anymore.

>>153346913
I stopped reading after the first line too, and I'm all the better for it.

>>153345595
>awful publishers like NISA and atlus USA shit out bad localizations
>their games can now be pirated so EOPs can enjoy good games without financially supporting their cancer
but no everyone that pirates games does it because they're poor bawwww

>>153346717

I agree re: the 1/10th. And like I said, almost every pirate I know also buys games. There's a couple exceptions, but, honestly they're pretty rare.

Which is why I think this 100 or 0 discussion is dumb. "You're either a filthy pirate who's never once bought a game in his life, or you're a pure supporter of the games industry who's never pirated ever" I think most people land somewhere between those two extremes.

>>153346947

I am pleased that you've accepted the rebuke. I recommend you now go do some reading on these concepts so you understand WHY I'm right.

>>153346982
I can understand NISA but atlus? Just because of dubs?

>>153346989
>Play demo
>decide not to buy the game
Welp guess I'm a pirate and they lost a sale.

>>153346982
this
non-neutered criminal girls when?

>>153346982
So games that NISA doesn't actually fuck up aren't worth buying now either?

RIP Demon Gaze 2

>>153346989
Again, the point is if you don't pirate, you will buy more. I really can't dumb it down for you anymore than that.

>>153347051
Oh, you think you won.

I assure you, I didn't give up.
I just know I'm right and there's no reason to support my side further since it's fine.

You can shout your projections from the rooftops to your heart's content, no skin off my bones

>Coven and Labyrinth now pirated too
They can't keep getting away with this. I thought my JP dungeon crawlers were safe.

'For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.'
- Corinthians

>>153347143
>chances of getting Coven in english are decreasing steadily now
;-;

>>153346913
>claims of 'moral' superiority
Lad. I'm literally not arguing that. I'm just pointing out that it's not stealing under any definition of the term. It's not legally theft. It's not semantically theft. It is distinct.This is completely unrelated to the value or effort put into it. Theft, by definition, must deprive the original owner of possession. There is a word for what we're calling piracy and that's copyright infringement. It's not that complicated.

>>153347135
Or not buy at all.

>>153347171
NO MAHVEL?

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>>153346638
> all these piracy debate
I came here to discuss about games and waifu impregnation, not this.

>>153347143
Oh shit, where?

>>153347143
It was I

>>153347052
their translations are pretty bad too
compare any of the persona games to their japanese dialog and you're in for a sad ride
hell, P4G just replaced some of the voices with silence instead of dubbing them
>>153347114
what you pay for is up to you, but even on their best day, it's not like NISA is going to see which game you bought and think "oh, they got this one because it wasn't butchered as badly as the rest, let's work harder on all our games." anytime they leave a game un-raped is up to pure chance, and i don't think it's worth the risk for someone with such a poor track record.

>>153347203
If you don't work, you don't eat.

>>153347135
>if you don't pirate, you will buy more
According to who? I have no money to buy video games, so even if I stop pirating that doesn't mean I'm going to start buying games.

>>153346982
All localization companies are pretty shit though anon. Why support anything? Atlus is probably the least shittiest one.

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Nothing will change no matter how much retards shitpost about it. Moralfags will be moralfags, piratefags will pirate.

The only thing you've accomplished is shitting up vitagen

>>153347209
Me too anon

>>153347223
Can you show examples?

>>153347290
So why not learn Japanese then?

>According to who? I have no money to buy video games, so even if I stop pirating that doesn't mean I'm going to start buying games.
'Pirates aren't poorfags' amirite guys?

>>153347326
Literally no one said this.

>>153347252
Tell that to non-profits and to the GNU/Linux community in general.

Yes they may work additional instances, but specifically in those contexts they work for free for the betterment of everyone and expect nothing in return.

Similar to 4chan mods who see your shit.
>>153343916

>>153347292
Didn't the website have a forum?

>>153347061

The risk/reward of demos. I played that DOOM demo, the first level, and decided not to bother for a while. But at the same time if the demo wasn't there, I'd probably never buy it, but, now I probably will on a sale later.

>>153347135

"If you don't pirate, you will buy more" I just don't think that's necessarily correct. I think it's correct in some cases. But again: I think most people who pirate games also buy games. So it's unproductive to have the discussion based around the idea I'm seeing from some people here that anyone who pirates anything will never ever buy a game and is destroying the games industry.

>>153347136

We weren't having a discussion. I was telling you things and you were either learning from them or not. Apperantly not.

>>153347197

Possession includes rights of ownership. Which includes rights to copy or not copy, distribute or not distribute, etc. Ownership doesn't only mean "a physical thing in a drawer in my house"

It is theft because it takes the rights of ownership away. If I lend you my lawnmower, even though it is not in my possession, I still own it, because I have rights of ownership over it. Ownership and theft are not as simple as physical objects in your possession.

>>153347382
yeah but it was a blatant phishing attempt and closed down very quickly

>>153347375
>but specifically in those contexts they work for free for the betterment of everyone and expect nothing in return.
COMMUNISTS OUT.
REEEEE

>>153347420
>We weren't having a discussion
You're right, because it was completely one-sided with me being right.

>trial/unlock games can't be pirated

Feels good that companies now have to provide demos to avoid piracy.

>>153347479
They're next.

Too bad that practice hurt even legit consumers.

Oreshika, despite not even having an unlock, has a 2.6GB demo compared to the full game's 2.8GBs.

The demo+unlock only benefits consumers that were intent on purchasing it outright.

>>153347551

Oreshika's demo was nice but also kind of bullshit, but that wasn't a trial/unlock scenario.

>>153344497
Anybody?

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This is how mobile games win.

Whelp, time to learn Japanese.

>>153347624
Mobile games are literal trash

>>153344552
the truth is you can't properly enjoy games you stole, it's ironic isn't it?

Anyone else here literally not give a shit about this and will just continue to buy games?

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>>153346730
>nice projection
It's not projection. All pirates are one of or a combination of those things.

>swearing is immoral btw
Yeah, if you're incredibly oversensitive or nitpicking to try and one up after getting offended by the truth.

>>153347703
Objectively false. Some of my favourite games I pirated.

>>153347742
YOU GOT HIM FELLOW MORAL FAG UPVOTED

LET'S GO BUY GAMES TOGETHER AND I'LL DUMP MY COPY AND SHARE IT

I bought God Eater physical, where do I go to get my copy of Resurrection? Europe btw.

The pamphlet says god-eater.com but I don't see a redemption section.

>>153347727
I buy games on all platforms I own, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't upset that piracy is available now.

>>153347727
Of course I'll keep buying games.
The reason I don't steal from real stores is not because I can't, but because I don't want to. Stealing is bad.