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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1156 dead but not forgotten

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■ Current Update (8/10): 「銀翼と黄金の都」
└ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2-jp-maintenance-and-patch-8102016/

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ http://pso2.jp/players/news/?charid=i_boostevent
├ Google: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Scratches: Seaside Vacation (until 9/7), Shiny Summer Days (until 8/24), Darkness Ruler (until 12/14)
└ http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/

■ Next Update (8/24): 「銀翼と黄金の都」Part 2
└ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/battle-the-statue-of-liberty-in-pso2s-las-vegas-field/

□ FAQs, Guides (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ http://pastebin.com/CxBP1mEA (embed)
├ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ml9MGiN2Ich09mDtR82N1zn62oa1Mp6x6yzRjHrEf8c/ (Last Updated: 7/25/2015)
├ Basic English Patch: http://psumods.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=206
├ Buy ARKS Cash using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa (embed)
└ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2es-guide-chip-database/

□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
├ http://pso2.cirnopedia.info/ (EN - OUTDATED AS FUCK)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Main_Page (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Tree: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affix: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage: http://4rt.info/psod/

Previous thread>>152735486
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>dead for 6 hours
Good job, guys.
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When will Quna become relevant again?
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>>153153056
We have Sachiko now.
It's pretty much a improved quna, considering the concert quality.
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>>153153221
I like Sachiko, but I meant story wise.
inb4 zelcius, layered wear ver
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>>153153289
PSO2 have a story?
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>>153153051
Who cares, this game is fucked.
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1 onilne 98 offline game
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>>153153536
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L M A O

D E A D

F U C K I N G

G A M E
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>>153154157
Has it ever been this dead before, shitposter-kun?
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>>153153665
Those glasses make you look old.
New grandma?
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>>153154923
I just wanted to try out a more bookish look. I think the big lens are really cute.
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>>153155051
Get the swirl glasses.
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post them
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Is the new wand elemental change ring any good?
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What would it take to breathe some life into the game at this point?
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>>153156204
range/tech class
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>>153156204
make mmew, finnel, jensen, breen and white glint play again
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>>153156204
pso2 shines the best with single parties

they should introduce way more single party content

also they need to redo arks league and make team rankings more important
competition between players often breathes life into games even if its not direct pvp
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>>153156126
better than nothing
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>>153156204
>at this point
2late
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>>153156204
Disband OH
Remake DDR
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>>153156204
remove SU
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>>153158430
But I like Summoner.
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>Current Update (8/10): 「銀翼と黄金の都」
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This is a cute Azanami.
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This is a cute Ruppie.
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This is a cute bear.
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>>153156204
An engine change
Major improvement to older content
More solo play that isn't solo xq tier cancer
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>>153164115
>More solo play that isn't solo xq tier cancer
It's an online game
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>>153164115
>solo xq tier cancer
Sorry that you're bad at the game.
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dead. fucking. game. lmao!
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¡oɐɯl ˙ǝɯɐƃ ˙ƃuiʞɔnɟ ˙pɐǝp
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>Gene doesn't have a mag

What a shitter.
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>>153153665
cute
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>>153156204
Seriously, it's too late.

It's fallen fast down the big reward for zero effort path. Reverting it would make it a better game, but doing so would lose you all the casuals that are currently keeping it afloat.
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>>153156204
If all the doomsayers did everyone else a favor and left.
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>>153166147
it needs 5 passes and can only be run 5 times, how is that fun?
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>>153169038
Most already did, this dead game is the result.
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>>153169145
Not enough have left, because they still shitpost this thread all day long.
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>>153169254
the shitposter's don't actually play the game
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>>153169038
>>153169254
First post I've made in this thread in months because I came to check if there was any reason to play again (there's not).
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>>153169038
They're only here to bump the thread and get a reaction
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>>153169331
>the shitposter's don't actually play the game

But Lilith plays the game and he's a shitposting avatarfag
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Working on some OC an anon inspired me to make in the prior thread.
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>>153169762
braced for disappointment
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Got this from a single crystal

lmao double double double daggers
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>>153169994
Oh my God is her spine okay?
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>>153169994
onee-chan...
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>>153169762
K, done
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I AM A DEMON LORD
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>>153171580
pretty good
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>>153156282
I was hoping for a ranged/tech class. NOT SU AND ITS COUNTLESS EGGS.
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>>153170139
>spines can't possibly curve backwards somewhat!
I wonder if anatomyfag anons can even touch their ankles much less keep themselves upright bent forward without crying about how their spine is going to break.
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>>153172541
who u
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>>153177773
Just a FoTM literally who avatarfag that likes to shitpost and get (you)s

carry on


Carry on
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>>153172541
Sure thing Jay Leno
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>>153178125
But i'm not a former late night talk show host :^)
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So how does one go about getting into this Discord I keep hearing about?
Is it team only or anyone from /psog/ ?
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>>153178482
It's full of faggots and non pso2 shit
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>>153178482
Only niggerfaggots are allowed to join.
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>>153178601
Just like the rest of my existence?
Seriously though, sounds way better than the alternative, which is nothing.

>>153178658
That's just what a dirty double nigger would say..
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>>153178482
its supposed to be one for pso2g in general i believe. I don't know what it isnow since i left it months ago. there was some pso2 related talk on some occasions but >>153178601 more or less hit the nail on the head and kayleth is the mod/admin i think.
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>>153178789
If you don't care that it has nothing to do with the game you might as well join a random discord since it wont be any different.
A random one will probably be better unless you are an erp fag and like seeing nudes of peoples characers.
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>>153178870
>its supposed to be one for pso2g in general i believe.
Then why no link in OP?

>>153179078
Ah okay then.
Well the next time I'm here and hear mentions about deep game mechanic discussion on the discord that isn't a euphemism for erp I won't cry or shitpost, honest..
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>>153179403
Everyone else in the threads were getting mad about: (Correct me if im wrong)

>Le ebin discord circlejerk
>Discord drama spilling in threads
>One guy that would bitch about EP4 non stop
>non gameplay related discussion that would occur
>muh erp
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>>153179685
Well can us non drama fags start one then?
I'm lonely and desire to know more about this game
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>>153179403
no link in the op because it has no relation to pso2
Just some of the fags that post here are there
Don't worry lonley anon, if they want you they will post the link here
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Earliest date when sega starts talking about that whole pa adjustment stuff?
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>>153179827
You can if you want. I'd be down to join since I play more than erp and shitpost here

>>153179862
do they even post the link when people ask for it anymore?
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>>153179827
Just join a team or go get some friends.
The same erpfags are going to join the new discord and shit all over it too.
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>>153180604
we could always make sure the admin kicks them
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>>153180753
I'm already calling it a circlejerk and it's not even made.
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>>153180841
can't have people shitting up the place
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>>153180929
Can't have people the admin and his buttbuddies don't like either ;)
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>>153180992
sure can't
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>>153179827
https://discord.gg/0sog9XJpU6zGLpEV
Here you go anon
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>>153181391
kek
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>>153181504
they wanted the link to the discord so I gave it to them
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Why are dark element changers 1m?
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29498173
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Guys, I miss episode 3
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Where the fuck do I get my gravity bombs?
Nothing to move on my bar, is it a consumable I have to buy or something?
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>>153186143
It's an activated skill, so check one of the tabs when you customize your sub palette.
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Mother Inc.
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>>153186921
This looks so fucking stupid
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>>153186981
So do you.
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>>153186571
Oh okay, thank you!
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>>153187257
I want her hair without that silly accessory
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8wuU5-EZZA
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>>153191025
HUEY!
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I'm conflicted.

Do I play a cute trap, or do I play a cool cast?
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>>153193252
You have several character slots
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>>153193514
Fairly new player here, if I can unlock all classes is there any real reason to have multiple characters besides e/rp?
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>>153193514
Yes, but I'm specifically worrying about which one I make my S-Attack based class.
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>>153193834
the +200 atk from a mag is not negligible, and a new character means a free mag for the type of attack that character is gonna cover
>>153193932
alright, that's entirely up to you then, at least you can play both, you could make both satk really
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Is the Sachiko Concert in a few hours an actual concert or is it a mission?

Also, how do I get rid of this ugly green glow around me?
No one else I've seen has it.
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>>153194595
It's an actual concert.

The green glow is caused by your rear unit. You can hide it by clicking on it and selecting Hide.
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>>153194572
That floaty thing that does nothing?
All the guides just say to give it SATK, never even thought about matching it to my type, fuck me.

>>153194716
FUCKING THANK YOU!
So many simple things about this game I wish were in OP or the google doc, wew
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>>153195126
yea don't give it SATK if you're ranged or tech
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>>153195126
any stat the floaty thing has is applied to your character

you cant a new one without paying so new characters can sidestep that

new characters also let you play with different races/genders and their customization options
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>>153196063
Oh, so I can make a new character and then switch their mags?
That sounds like a good plan, thank you

>>153195782
Should have but didn't, oh well.
Kind of thought it would be weak anyway, since the low level stuff I'm giving it is trash.

>>153194716
Oh hey, where do I need to go for the concert?
Will it be a mission or something?
Last time I didn't notice an in game message or anything about it.
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>>153197249
The shop area, where the big stage is, near the lobby soccer stuff.
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>>153197458
Oh of course, thanks!
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>>153197502
I miss Kobato
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Lets all go to blue room instead maybe the game will be revived then
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>>153199936
this will save the game! lmao!
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Which block does /vg/ play on?
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>>153200747
B-01
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wtf is haidara so upset
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>>153200747
OP says shit 2 block 31
I've been on 37 lately though, I figured the gathering block has to be the most comfy and relaxed block
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>>153121632

Sir, are you currently viewing this thread, I have fulfilled your request.
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>>153201136
because beho would not waifu them
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MODS BAN HIM BEFORE HE DOES IT

BE USEFUL FOR ONCE INSTEAD OF DELETING RAPPIES
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>>153201136
>>153201846
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>>153201690
Fucking ship 2 ruining the thread.
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>>153201136
I bet memehead left him
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It's over guys, just end it all.
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dedthread
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>>153202014
HuH?? You can't ban someone for something they may or may not do, I don't know how they do it in Canada, but I'm allowed the benefit of the doubt here in the board of the free. I might just be doing this general's past time and talking shit for fun haha right?

>>153202623
Yeah sorry thread was doing pretty well this go around, if I had the character limit I'd go back and quote my favorite posts, hey here's a few.

>dead. fucking. game. lmao!
>¡oɐɯl ˙ǝɯɐƃ ˙ƃuiʞɔnɟ ˙pɐǝp
>Do I play a cute trap
>I'm lonely

also don't aggregate me into one ship like I'm one with it like a massive sentient blob. I'm my OWN person.
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What would you do in this situation as an ARKS member?
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>>153205309
Make him take that slide shaker.
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>>153201136
(You)
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>>153205309
nen is weak compared to photons

beat him up ez
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>>153205464
>not the first post from this ip
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>>153206050
are you retarded?
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>>153203142
>expecting anyone is going to let

>>153205046
Not trying to be a smartass by asking this but are you new to this genral?
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>>153206364
Is that the way to treat the person who hotglued you?
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>>153207016
I-impostor. Nig get on discord lmao
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>>153207016
You must feel like an idiot
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>>153207125
I'm not even the same guy. It's news to me that you're apparently ERPing on discord. One dick pic wasn't enough for you?
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Reminder that bouncers killed the game and this thread.
Blacklist and report all bouncers.
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>>153207436
already doing my job sargeant
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>>153209247
>misspelled sergeant
He's one of them! Get him!
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Get over here, Closet.
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>>153207328
erp is cool though
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>>153213515
There's a difference between ERP and sending pictures of your pencildicks to eachother over Discord.
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>>153213603
Nigger what?
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>>153213603
retards dont see the difference
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>>153213603
But how can you be sure your partner came if they don't show the action?
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I really don't get why people get so pissy about this concert. The Senbonzakura cover is bad but the first song is actually pretty alright.
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>>153214473
If you watch closely, she is just showing off her hand movements.
Everyone is jealous.
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>>153214473
The only person that bitched about the cover in here was fucking Sign and then he was hating the concert as a whole
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>>153214767
Sign probably only hates the senbonzakura cover cause he has an unhealthy obsession with meeku
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>>153214851
As expected of a mexican
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>>153214639
>still no iM@S collab
>get some ugly old woman with shitty voice instead
I don't even bother logging in for this. Still haven't.
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>>153215368
Good, one less shitter bringing down the quality of the mpas.
And stay out.
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>>153215471
but I'm a shitter that loves sachiko concert
what now
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Yikes.
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>>153217526
THIS PIC IS ALREADY IN THE THREAD

WHAT IS SO APPEALING ABOUT THIS

SHE LOOKS LIKE A PIECE OF PORK
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YAMEERRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>153217984
HITOTSU-NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>153214767
I dont like the cover either
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>>153218063
I didnt mind the instruments and stuff i just wished Sachiko wasn't the who sung for it
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>>153217745
She looks like a fuccboi, just like you
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>>153218273
sausage ship4
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>>153218273
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>>153218321
I wish I had some sausage, I'm pretty hungry. I don't think any of those types of joints are open at this time of night.
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Invade when
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>>153218321
>tfw mondo won't ever gloat about his sausage again
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>>153218425
I've got some sausage right here for you you piece of shit
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>tfw downloading invictus

Did i fuck up?
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>>153218217
my Newman is too RIPPED to be considered that
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>>153218626
Sorry, I'm not a fan of bite sized sausages.
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>>153218418
i cant seem to get my colors as good as yours, let alone reduce the blurring.
even with 70% contrast and 66% digital vibrance
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>>153218694
About as big of a mistake as the time I tried to get into Mabinogi.
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>>153220681
Mabinogi wasn't bad till the hackers fucked it all up, then people started leaving and it became a horrid shell of what it used to be.
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>>153220754
>hackers fucked it all up

When did this happen? I think Shakespeare was the recent thing when I tried it.
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>>153220824
It was way before that when shadow missions came along and went to hell after that.
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>>153221083
Least it has good music, I don't know much about Invictus but It would probably be a good idea to steer clear of it from what I've heard.
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>>153221202
he actually did it, the absolute madman
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>>153221202
>this nigga actually did it

I love you so much
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>>153221196
It's ok. Besides from outfits(armor) there isn't much customizing to be had unless you pay money and it's mandatory to do so, since things like thigh highs hair and underwear aren't buyable from players.
gameplay wise it's a lot of the same shit as this, it's free form combat you move around a lot avoiding hits and spamming the same moves over and over again depending on which cuck you picked at the start.
Also upgrading is pso1 status where it breaks your weapon easily.
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>>153221202
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>>153222197
Why couldn't you have been a true savior, ToS?
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Reminder that ship 2 literally goes to 9gag.
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>>153222237
blame IMC for being super shit
>>153222325
SHIP7 GO AND STAY GO
SHIP 2 PRIDE
SHIP 2 PRIDE
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>>153221202
desu I hate Skengs but I wanna see their reaction to being hotglued like a slut would.
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>>153223092
desu I actually think he'll be happy considering he's happy with any type of attention and this just makes people remember him more
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>Outfits in vindictus have a normal 15$ version and 31$ Premium variant
>it can also be rng

HOLY FUCK WHY IS THIS SHIT ALLOWED
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>>153224284
I already play DFO tho
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>>153224284
for 15 bucks a month fuck final fuckery fuck the fuck right off and out
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>>153224284
Like?
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>>153224447
>i'm poor
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>>153224408
I'm downloading that shit later too

>>153224284
i would but i forgot my Secret Q&A
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>>153224284
I already play WoW.
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I always think of Kayleth when listening to this because of that laugh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBJcBH6js6w
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>>153224284
Downloading it overnight. What server is everyone on?
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>final fantasy so dead that they have to fish for people to play with on this dead thread
Fucking shameful.
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>>153224912
Yeah bro it's so dead that at peak times there's a queue to log into Balmung. So what are the queue times like in POS2?
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>>153224912
again? did they lose more subs than the january disaster?
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>>153225069
What was this "January disaster"
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>>153224803
>Kayleth copying lilith now

KEK YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>153224912
i guess some folks will never be convinced that the game they invested thousand of hours into is dead

rest in peace pso2
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>>153225058
>we want more queues
It's good to have your priorities straight, I guess?
I heard tibia had some good queue times 10 years ago, maybe you can still catch that train.
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>>153225213
>I-I don't have to queue to play my plebian game!!
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>>153225148
IIRC They got large number of subscribers from december then everyone dropped the game by january and some by february. servers that were not balmung looked like a fucking ghost town and goldspammers were able to join more servers.
>>153225160
fuck off lilith, you are literally a copy of a copy of a copy
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>>153225348
>implying im lilith

LMAO@URLYFE
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@153224284
>I have content and so much to do I don't have the time to shitpost in other generals and even change my filenames to fit in
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>>153224876
Lot of us are on Tonberry if you want to join up.
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>>153225335
>i-i want to wait in a line to play the game that I already pay a monthly subscription
>also i'm totally not shilling my game in other games' generals because it's dead in here and I want people to play with
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>>153224284
but I play both shitty games, what now
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>>153224284
>fish for people
fuck off mate pso2 is dead just play final fantasy already
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>>153225348
Did something specific happen in January or did people just not resubscribe for no particular reason
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>>153224803
You're a demon lord?
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>>153225509
found the dude who failed his grammar course
>>153225589
bruh how long do you think the queue times are are you stupid? i'm not shillin anything it's just kinda sad you're all clinging onto a dead game
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>>153224494
yeah, poor on time. and even if i had the time i would play that toilet of a game. greentext my toilet
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>>153225948
>your game is so dead, c-come play with me
>my game is totally not dead and i'm only trying to get you guys to play out of altruism
>pls, I'm lonely
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Okay for real, when was the last time pso2 had any relevant content? Unleashed Prestige was an utter disappointment but it at least gave everyone free 13* (which made all of the content in the game even easier than it already was). Slightly harder PD and Vegas have done nothing to invigorate the game.
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>>153226313
When was the last time your life had any relevant content? I'm guessing it's been a while.
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>>153226313
King iede introduction.
You should have stopped by then.
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>>153226313
Jokes on you faget I've already multishipped my way to an 11th Austere. Uhm get good much???
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>>153225727
yes
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Daily reminder you all could be playing a game that has a skill gap
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>>153227407
>Gears
>Skill cap
Nah nig. THIS IS TRUE SKILL
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>>153227407
>ends with a 2-piece
Shitter.
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>>153227407
Pros
>Scrubs get put away
>Learning to wall bounce is fun and works very well for the game benefiting those who learn.
>Game can actually make you better at other games
>Coming to pc


Cons
>Kantus with a sawdoff
>Any female with a sawdoff
>Chat is always filled with niggers and ragers

Dear god I hope they do/did number 4 right.
>1 was fantastic
>2 was meh
>3 was great
>Judgement was shit
>Ultimate was a mistake
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>>153228362
>2 meh
>3 great
3 was when it all went down the drain
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Random question. Is there a way to lower th elighting in a My Room? I never really liked it always being so bright in there.
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>>153229252
No.

So anyway, yall wanna play some CSGO or dota?
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>>153229003
What made 3 shittier for you?
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>>153229252
Turn off ambient lighting.
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>>153229428
The sawed off really slowed down the game for me. I hated that every encounter I had to figure out if the each fucker was gonna fight me fair, or go for the cheap kill and run if they missed. I loved having to pick between HB and lancer but fuck the sawed off. GoW2 really improved for me once things like smokes being concussion fuck you grenades changed.
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>>153229716
Thats fair imo.
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>>153227915
>tfw never had friends to play couch 3rd strike with
I was born in the wrong generation!
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dont mind me just posting best girl
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>>153232683
kys
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>>153227407
Wait is 4 out already
Motherfuck I thought I had a few more months
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>>153227407
how come the twitchy motherfuckers are always good players

seems to happen where ever i go - dark souls, fps games, even pso2

you just know that when you see someone twitch for no fucking reason like at the end of this webm you'd better watch the FUCK out for that guy
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>>153234236
he wasn't twitching, he was moving around in tiny circles to taunt them for just getting 1v4'd
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lmao dead game
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Can we farm sphinx like anga already?
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>>153235069
given that collect file progress is only added if you beat the quest, no.
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>>153235296
>do shaq for blue weapon
>get blue drop, abandon quest
>collect file completes
??
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>>153235370
>File progress = file completion
???
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>>153235482
>0 to 100 is not progress
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>>153235560
Good luck getting a Bio weapon as a drop
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>>153235791
pregnant gene when
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>>153235791
That's not how balls work.
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>>153235791
Gene back in her original outfit when
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>>153237615
You'd know how balls work, wouldn't you?
>>
>tfw cirnopedia's last update was in january
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>>153197249
i know this is super late but no you can't trade mags between characters
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>>153235791
wtf i hate gene now
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Nice servers, moot
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>>153239497
>tfw play the game he actually updates a site for
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How common are este passes?
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>>153242206
relatively
they should appear every 2 weeks or so from login bonuses
and are pretty common campaign rewards
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>>153241371
That's what happens when sign touches something
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Apparently the class gets nerfed and buffed every other day, so I don't know what photon arts for katana Braver are good. What's best for mobbing/bossing?
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>>153247223
guren for everything
been like that ever since it came out
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>>153247223
Hien Tsubaki is BR's best kept secret
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Is there a database where you can search/check for symbol arts?
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What's the best class/weapon if I really like killing bosses quickly?
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>>153248594
Fo/Te
Fi/Hu
bow gimmick build
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>>153227920
>Getting 2-peiced
who is the bigger shitter
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>>153248967
Fi/Hu sounds like fun. No fucking clue how to play it, though.
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I'm new to the game, looking for a team!

IGN: Shootinugud, ranger
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>>153249250
What ship though?
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>>153249137
flicker jab>bhs with knuckle ring
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>>153250126
3rd rate Fi/Hu tier
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dead
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>>153249250
Look for EDF in redroom
They are cool guys
Just watch out for that solus "guy" in redroom
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>>153256557
Fuck I meant cafe room
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solus is the coolest wow
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OHOHOHOHO!!!!! KNEEL BEFORE ME
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>>153257647
i am dewman lord??????????????????????????????
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>>153258749
Shut up sign just give migu revival in pso2 allready
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>>153259942
Whats so special about this
90% of caferoom likes to suck virtual dicks
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>>153240129
Thanks, I unequiped it and couldn't store it or anything so I kind of thought so, thanks.
Guess I'll have to buy a reset
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>>153263304
if you're not too far off you can just delete and remake your character, but it takes 24 hours to do so
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NO I CAN STILL GO ON

MADA MADA
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>>153263995
Eh I've got 3 classes to 30 so doubt I will
Can't seem to complete the order to remove the level 30 cap so I keep changing to get xp
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>>153264981
>cant even eat a dorito alone
hunters, I tell you.
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>>153266656
Attentionwhores*
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>>153267129
kys
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>>153265121
Lets not forget you have 3 free character slots
You need to do EVERY single Koffie's client order , you unlock exp cap with her
It will ask you for drops from certain difficulties (like kill native species on had level or lv21+)
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SWIMSUIT FAGS BTFO
https://twitter.com/u_fa_/status/769959594458087425
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>>153268371
>Caseal does better in armor than in fleshbag
Whew lad.
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Is cast the only race that can change skin color to colors like purple, red and yellow?
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>>153268371
>bikini so good it makes him miss the just attacks
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>>153263304
>Guess I'll have to buy a reset
just buy a new one, don't let the japanese jews fool you
new mag - 300 AC
mag reset pass - 500 AC
and yes you can level up your char to level 30 in like 2 hours, just do client orders that gives you a lot of EXP and login into pso2es everyday for login bonuses, you would receive two 15000 EXP tickets per day
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>>153268778
>just buy a
They've already fooled you
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>>153268371
Wait I dont have autism
Whats happening here
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>>153268985
when fleshie does 3 normal attacks they lose standing snipe is what it says
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>>153268707
Dewmans can
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>>153268985
standing snipe remains active more consistently wearing one costume versus another
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>>153269069
Why would that affect it
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>>153269267
sega
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>>153269267
it probably looks at the costume's "floor" or something
you notice how those flaps in the back barely move
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>>153269150
They can't
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>>153269150
>>153269610
They have their own spectrum that's different from everyone else's
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WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES
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>>153270823
Stop that, you're making me hungry.
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>>153268371
>being this slow
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>>153270891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7wleJUtri4

:^)
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>>153271305
>watching western anime
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>>153271723
>not watching russian figurine sticks
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>>153269267
SEGA QUALITY
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>>153152951
>large
Damn right it is
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>PD trigger
>always lv3 boost

What's next? Is there anything else they could even do to make this game more of a cakewalk?
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>>153273443
Solo it or solo it without units or solo it without mates.
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>>153273443
>also 13*s from client orders and e-trials
I spoke too soon.
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>>153273724
>13* from e-trials
what
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>>153273925
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>>153273724
Etrials used to give the most sought after and valuable items in the game since early ep2.
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>>153273724
We have so many 13* that they are pretty much 11* of EP2. More doesn't really increase easiness of getting since collection files also expire, but is here just for variety.

Sega pretty much just wants more weapon variety after killing pretty much everything 10 to 12* so they sidegrade 13*.
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>>153274160
>>153273724
You realize this is already the case for the weapons from Kidd and Silva?
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>>153274703
No because I haven't been playing this piece of shit dead game.
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>>153274867
How nice of you to stick around then
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>>153274920
I like to check in every now and then for a good chuckle.
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>>153274160
>more photon color changeable stuff
nice
>>
>implying Sega giving everyone out 13* isn't part of their keikaku
>implying rebalance update won't remove half of retarded skills from skill trees and newbie traps
>implying after we get locked blocks Sega won't be dishing some 10/10 challenging content since even newbies have it easy gearing up and don't have retarded shit like guard stance presented to choose from
You will see
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I wish hunter would get a buff
and gaurd stance would either get reworked or completely replaced
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>>153277086
We all wish bro
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who is the biggest cuck in /pso2g/ ?
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Was new to Ranger and curious what I should be doing as a rotation during boss stun/etc. I see most rangers just mash out End Attract/Sneak Shooter/One Point but I wasn't sure how optimal that was, but checking the JP wiki confuses me even more. Is Homing Emission really 841 over Sneak Shooter? Is EA 858 if it only hits once, Or will multiple hits increase the DPS over what's listed even further?
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>>153277216
Lilith
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>>153277216
Metty
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>>153277216
Gav
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>>153277216
whoever had an affair with daniel
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Excuse me, thread, but you seem to have Rappies for emperors.
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>>153277216
Sign
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>>153277216
Meido, cucked by Death.
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>>153278048
Empe suit when?
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>>153277310
that chart only lists dps on controlled, static environments which i guarantee you is only 1% of the time applicable in game.

ranger even more so as a big chunk of it's damage depends a lot on weakpoints/headshots, so even if it has lower listed dps, if it consistently hits weakpoints (cluster bullet, diffuse shell, satellite cannon, etc) it will do more damage in the end

homing emission specifically is also difficult to have all its' shots land consistently on a weakpoint, and in the first place require a lot of targetable parts to maximize the projectiles.
end attract pierces enemies and can hit multiple times. the reason it's so strong is that on a boss, it can inflict damage multiple times on one part

in addition, because each and every boss has a different moveset and behavior (and weakpoint location) the best way is just go into the field, find the boss, test out your PAs, and see which one does the most damage consistently! (or watch youtube/nicos of mlg players and see what they do)
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>>153278317
id say, add to this, avoid imitating players that you dont know about ra at all (only spamming one point at all times or end attract, they are not bad but if they only use those 1/2 PAs that means they dont know how to play properly, and even dont know they may be fucking up their standing snipe)
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>>153278576
>you
remove this
im tired
>>
It's rodos day
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>>153277086
Hunter is fine.
Or at least, no worse off than anyone else is right now.
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>dude dont be a jerk i play for fun lmao btw how can you just guard with rifle ? how do you just reversal?
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>>153278317
I only ended up thinking to look it up after running PD/apos/loser on ranger and realizing I wasn't sure what my rotation should be during their downed periods.

I figure for something like Apos Dorios's shitton of parts and huge face weakpoint, PD's core/eye/face, EA would get the max amount of hits and probably be the best choice?

Another question with SS in general is how SS applies to PAs. The JP wiki either doesn't talk about it or google translate doesn't translate it well enough for me to find it, and google isn't giving me as concise answers as I'd like. Specifically, something like EA that cancels SS after use. Does SS take effect mid-EA charge? Activating EA without having standing snipe will procc it mid-charge and apply the multiplier, or do I need to have SS before hitting the JA ring?
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>>153275963
>and don't have retarded shit like guard stance presented to choose from
>implying they won't overcorrect and make guard stance better than fury stance in 100% of all situations
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>>153279196
Worse off than Force. Worse off than Fighter. Worse off than Ranger. Worse off than Gunner.
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>>153279557
Still not bouncer
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>>153279318
standing snipe is applied when you do not move in *any axis* for 1 second.
it is lost when you are moved by another entity (enemy), as you're falling, and if the PA has forced motion.

the damage bonus is applied if the standing snipe effect is active when you press the PA button. even if the PA itself moves you (Impact Slider, End Attract), if you didn't move for 1 second before the PA is activated, the damage bonus is applied until the PA ends.

there is a ring that applies a visual effect on your character's feet if standing snipe is active. it might take a few resources to obtain but it may help in figuring out how it works.
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>>153279557
>Worse off than Ranger. Worse off than Gunner.
not really
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>>153279196
But I wanna do lots of damage for no work like other classes do.
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>>153279713
What are you even smoking. Bouncer is up there and even stronger than Braver and Hunter if you cycle rapid and fever. Beginning of EP3 and everyone was shitting themselves after playing Bouncer and sticking one hundred blades into some weakpoint for massive damage. End of EP3 and Bouncer with DBs was still considered meta for PD for a while. Suddenly EP4 without any big changes and you people think Bouncer is shit.
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>>153280082
It was fi/bo and it got left for dead when everyone got main class buffs.
Now bouncer is just a negative damage token.
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>>153280082
People realized photon blade fever wasn't all that great after actually playing the other classes and their improvements
>End of EP3 and Bouncer with DBs was still considered meta for PD for a while.
Not really? It was just convenient
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>>153267475
>>153268778
Yeah I keep running the explore missions and I've done all of her other orders, not sure why I'm not getting the drops

Oh nice, a new one is less? And yeah, I've got a huge stack of those 15K exp tickets, I stopped using them a few days back when I noticed I was getting capped on exp
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>>153279837
So EA -> EA would mean the second EA would not gain SS despite standing still for a second.

How would you go about optimally re-proccing SS while also getting a JA ring (aka not just standing there for SS to activate)

EA -> Sneak Shoot -> EA seems to be the best idea I can muster on something like PD
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>>153280082
>End of EP3 and Bouncer with DBs was still considered meta for PD for a while.
Those were mainly Bo/Te Niren orochi/break stance zanverse bitches though.
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>>153279860
Ra and Gu are both amazing DPS.
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>>153280330
>break stance zanverse
This meme needs to die.
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>>153280365
Shh. fazz will spazz because he cant handle the truth
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>>153280441
But it's actually really good on Double and PD, since the maximum amount of damage you're allowed to do on non-breakables on them is fixed.
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>>153280082
>Bouncer is up there and even stronger than Braver and Hunter
lol are you sure you aren't just playing with shitters
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>>153280365
No, not really anymore
GU maybe, since chain is pretty strong but that's more for party play
RA is in a bad place
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>>153280441
B-B-BUT SEES HARDCORE META #1 WE ARE NEVER TRYHARDING
>>153280524
Actually its pretty shit if you know what to do and how to organize your group
Pretty pointless on double and PD because break stance doesnt work where it matters
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>>153280524
The parts break, then the stances stop working, and it don't even work on the cores of both enemies, which is where you actually dump damage.
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>>153280195
Wrong Fi/Bo was dead before PD after they introduced main class boost.
>>153280251
>Not really? It was just convenient
I remember tryhards trying it before ditching it for Force. On the other there are so many classes that weren't even considered. You don't go to shit tier right after being considered almost top tier for PD.
>>153280330
Actually damage Bouncers though just because sticking to doing damage was easy on top of Bouncer doing plenty of it.

While people were laughing plenty at Jetboots, it was mostly because DBs were the tryhard bouncer weapon. Ever since release of Bouncer I can only remember Jetboots being buffed and now using them in Rapid is worth it.

You guys just love your memes.
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>>153280294
EA itself moves you back slightly so no, you wont be able to keep standing snipe
for standing snipe, try activating PAs in midair, since while in midair certain PAs won't move your character (i dont remember which since its been a while since i last played ranger)
i usually dont bother trying to keep standing snipe active anyway, ranger's weakpoint bonus is consistent and already pretty big a boost
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>>153280705
>muh negative dps class is good, stop bullying it
Fuck off.
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>>153281020
I don't even play fucking Bouncer retard.
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>>153280705
>On the other there are so many classes that weren't even considered. You don't go to shit tier right after being considered almost top tier for PD.
considered almost top tier by who
bouncer is basically widely regarded as a joke class by tryhard teams what the fuck are you talking about

>Actually damage Bouncers though just because sticking to doing damage was easy
sure doing damage is easy but all those fancy damage popups add up to less than a hunter sword swing lel
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>>153281161
So play it in a single party quest and you'll see for yourself how terrible it is.
Fucking bouncer apologists need to fuck off.
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>>153280638
>>153280693
Lol what? You do know the damage you do to double's tongue is fixed, right? You will never do more than the maximum allowed, which you could easily reach in a second without zanverse. That's why breaking the bits as soon as possible is the main objective, and those are hit by breakstance. Ever since they buffed PD it's the same there. You're not allowed to do more damage to PD's core than it would take to change phases. So you break the PD bits, force a phase change to phase 2, break little bits it sends out, and then hammer on the core. A good group can make do with the break stance zanverse on the core no problem and force a phase 3. There you are once again breaking the little bits he throws out, and then breaking the chest eye. Once his face comes down you are once again restricted in the amount of damage that you're allowed to do, only enough to force the persona phase change. Come back from that, once again break an eye, and then he's pretty much already dead.

Notice how every single non-breakable thing in there had a maximum amount of damage you're allowed to do? That's why break stance zanverse is good there.
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>>153280693
Actually no, damage to core barely matters since, as the other anon already pointed out, the damage you can do to them is fixed. They'll either fuck off after a certain % of damage has been taken, which usually happens after 3 seconds, or they stay on the floor for a fixed amount of time (when PD drops his head) where any half decent MPA will overkill him either way. Having more damage on breakbales actually allows you to get to the cores significantly faster (especially on double). I'm not sure why this is even up for debate, seeing that all the tryhard teams used it, including guardians.
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>>153281362
>>153281618
The first and second tongue are fixed, but the third isn't and is where you should kill it, and you can deal enough damage in a tentacle of PD to cap all phase changes, and break stance won't help anything after the first half of a second that it takes to break it.
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>>153281781
Double has no health after he keeps his tongue out. A bunch of forces using barantsion on it while he's spitting out cars will be an instant kill even without zanverse. You really don't know what you're talking about and should stop.
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>>153281217
>considered almost top tier by who
You would have to dig up posts on shit like PSOW. Matt certainly didn't think of Bouncers as a joke.
>bouncer is basically widely regarded as a joke class by tryhard teams what the fuck are you talking about
Are you playing with teams that think that anything not Force is a joke class and Fighter is meh?
>sure doing damage is easy but all those fancy damage popups add up to less than a hunter sword swing lel
Are you dumb? Bouncer has Sword outdamaged on every sandbag.

Or is just that you don't see big numbers and instead many numbers so you think shit is weak?
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>>153281781
>you can deal enough damage in a tentacle of PD to cap all phase changes
Only if you get a panic and are using a Br/Gu, in which case zanverse doesn't matter because the Br/Gu alone will take PDs entire HP pool in 10 seconds even with the break stance zanverse.
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>>153280506
And they are at the bottom of XHTA times :^). Local Ranger not so tough after WB gets jammed.
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>>153282102
>Matt
>Relevant
>Ever
Fuck off spi"Ahmad"cy.
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>>153282406
Relevant = anonymous opinion of a dead general's hivemind that took one too many meme to the head?
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>>153282102
>PSOW.
lol
serious talk the only time bouncers were considered is literally for break stance zanverse
there was theorycrafting about chain gufo and tebo with break stance zanverse for near instant part breaks
but that is the extent of it
>Are you playing with teams that think that anything not Force is a joke class and Fighter is meh?
why does that matter? when the end result is the fastest time any class that isn't the best frankly doesn't cut it
bouncer is one of them, and frankly one of the worst candidates even for consideration
>Are you dumb? Bouncer has Sword outdamaged on every sandbag.
so you are playing with shitters
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>>153280538
Honestly every non-Fighter melee class needs help. They offer very little to the current game right now and are made almost redundant since Fighter does more damage reliably than all 3. Hunter may have some strong mobbing but then Forces cover that most of the time too while being faster.
Techer has better support than Bouncer.
Guren is the only thing making BR relevant, and it's not even that amazing of a PA.
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>>153282713
>Guren is the only thing making BR relevant
If you're bad and don't know how to play braver at all, sure.
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>>153282713
Try spamming guren on PD.
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>>153282713
>what is hatou, Kazan, Tsukimi, gekka, Sakura, Kanran avg. stance, weak stance, KC, KC Escape, Chase , Ban pen/kaze combos
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>>153282667
>why does that matter? when the end result is the fastest time any class that isn't the best frankly doesn't cut it
So you are a retard who doesn't understand that if you think Bouncer does negative damage, then similarly negative damage is done by any Techer combo, Braver, and Hunter.
>frankly one of the worst candidates even for consideration
Yet it was considered.
>so you are playing with shitters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4qJQnFWhc
Here is a solo of PD. A bit better time than Hu/Fi with Sword and Br/Hu, a bit slower than Hu/Fi with Partizan. Essentially same tier. Yes it's old PD but new PD didn't really nerf kill times on the other two classes.
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>>153282981
That's exactly what most Brs do though?
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>>153224303
The moral of this story is don't be poor.
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>>153283652
I'm not poor. Just a lazy shit
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>>153274160
>Not camos with colors you can change
Who cares? They'll just be not-ray+ tier like the last batch.
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>>153283310
>So you are a retard who doesn't understand that if you think Bouncer does negative damage, then similarly negative damage is done by any Techer combo, Braver, and Hunter.
no i am saying that when you are aiming for the best time, you do not fucking settle for less than the best
bouncer outside of break stance niren zanverse is fucking useless because literally any other class does their job better than them

>Yet it was considered.
consideration is fucking nothing
we tried bouncer
we've tried many other class combinations as well
we fail some eqs and try again with new strategies to see if we get better times
but one constant has been clear from all these attempts: bouncer being played the way it's meant to be played is shit and is worth nothing because literally any other class can do better

>video
i dont care about some guy soloing pd
that is not what "tryhards" do because soloing pd doesn't result in anything but 25 more minutes spent in the eq doing something that could be done in 5

do you literally not understand why bouncer is so useless to "tryhard" teams?
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>>153283980
So do people solo shit like PD for experimenting or is it just epeen?
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>>153284147
epeen
showing off
fun
whatever floats their boat
but what they don't do is actually competing for the #1 ship rank no matter how arbitrary and useless that number is
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>>153282205
Getting a panic is a must, and a single Br/Gu can't deal 30m damage, so yes, the useless bouncer zanverse is making a big difference in it.
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>>153284290
ah. i remember the thread and shit was saying that solo'ing PD and the like was indicative of a players individual skill like solo XQs
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>>153283980
Can't you fucking understand that the whole discussion is about whether Bouncer is negative damage tier or the middle road with the other melee tier?
>i dont care about some guy soloing pd
Because you are a fucking scrublord. It's about the damage Bouncer does compared to other classes. PD tiers classes pretty well overall in other cases, and this case says that Bouncer is where I said it would be.
>do you literally not understand why bouncer is so useless to "tryhard" teams?
Do you not understand it was about whether Bouncer is at the level of Hu/Fi or Br/Hu or not? The claim wasn't "Bouncer is tryhard tier". The claim was "Bouncer was generally considered by tryhards for PD more than other shit before being thrown out for Force, that must mean the damage isn't bad at all". Every fucking evidence points to Bouncer in EP4 being at the level of Br/Hu for example. Except pso2g memes and some tryharding retard joining into discussion and bitching that it's worthless because only the best is worthwhile.
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>>153284448
Well, if you're able to beat PD solo then yeah you're definitely more skilled than the average player.

Although lowman PD is surprisingly not really that hard at all, and not much slower than running in pubs either.
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I dont get it why every other class gets defended that they have this and that and requires some thought while for BO its always
>moment gale 24/7 negative damage
whats stopping people from using gust into vinto or swap to db if pbf is avaliable?
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>>153284448
It is cuz baddies can't do it without dying. The real shitters won't even finish on time even if they scapedoll over and over again. Overall it'll be so soul crushing that they won't even want to try again, because of the nature of EQs, they're only available for a limited time. If the quest was always up, more people might try.
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>>153284290
They are competing for the #1 of their class though. No matter how useless or arbitrary it is.
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>>153284623
>Bouncer is negative damage tier or the middle road with the other melee tier?
and you try to prove that by how? because "tryhards" said so?

>PD tiers classes pretty well overall in other cases
pd does not actually tier pretty well because bouncer has easy access to break stance and pd is one of the very few bosses that has a lot of breakable parts for break stance to shine
hunter/fighter gets disadvantaged due to how stances fuck up in pd

>The claim was "Bouncer was generally considered by tryhards for PD
and i'm trying to say that those "considerations" are nothing because not only did you conveniently leave out exactly who is considering it but also why
i gave you reasons why bouncer consideration never worked out for pd from my team's perspective
and i'm fairly certain many other teams have also arrived at the same conclusion.

>that must mean the damage isn't bad at all
the damage isn't really that bad
bouncer is just inconsistent and everything it does is done better by every other class
that makes bouncer relatively worse for damage dealing
unfortunatley it's support niche is also overshadowed by techer leaving bouncer with literally nothing it can claim a specialty for itself

>Bouncer in EP4 at the level of Br/Hu
just because a lot of brhu players are lazy and guren everywhere do not mean it is equal to bouncer
brhu is faster and more efficient than bohu 99% of the time

>>153286461
respectable but ultimately not recognized by the game itself, sadly
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>>153286680
>and you try to prove that by how? because "tryhards" said so?
By various methods I already posted. You can theory craft maximal DPS of classes or other shit too.
>pd does not actually tier pretty well because bouncer has easy access to break stance and pd is one of the very few bosses that has a lot of breakable parts for break stance to shine
You could say the same about Br/Hu having pretty easy access to weak stance too, or spin Hu/Fi into having actually easy access to Wise Stance for big part of the fight.
>at the same conclusion.
Yes Bouncer considerations didn't work out that was what I am saying. There is a fact that in the end Bouncer was strongly considered.
>bouncer is just inconsistent and everything it does is done better by every other class
What. Lock and PBF is pretty consistent, most of DB is. Vinto is inconsistent I would give you that but Hu/Fi is also about using inconsistent PAs to get maximal damage. And while singularly Bouncer has things that some other class does better you don't really have Te/Hu or Te/Br dishing better single target damage or Hu/Fi having anything resembling PBF etc.
>brhu is faster and more efficient than bohu 99% of the time
Except when it isn't.
>respectable but ultimately not recognized by the game itself, sadly
Does it matter when there isn't any reward or completely irrelevant reward anyway? Nobody will see your PD time unless you post it whenever you are solo or in 12 man MPA.
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>>153284305
Well, 'the Br/Gu alone' was obviously an exaggeration, but there's obviously the rest of the MPA to make up the difference. There is also nothing stopping you from just letting a Te/Gu zanverse for non-breakable parts.
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>>153287449
Or you could get a player with zanverse that works in more than 25% of the eq instead of wasting a player slot on a bouncer.
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>>153286424
Bo probably gets flak because of the fact that other classes' shitters spamming one braindead PA doesn't actually do negative damage by cancelling better zanverses?

Nothing is stopping them from doing something else and actually contributing positively. It's just that they won't, for whatever the reason. Which is why they are shitters.

Of course, I don't understand how this has anything to do with tryharding and PD, because it's about the bottom end of retards in pubs, not organized MPAs.
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Does anyone think the balance update will make Bo worth a shit. I actually wanna play because i have ample amounts of both *13 weapon types for ir
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>>153287428
>theory craft
play the game you fucking scrub
you can theorycraft all you want but the end result is what the numbers say
>actually easy access to Wise Stance for big part of the fight.
the entire reason hu and fi do not work well against pd is exactly because of brave and wise stance
>There is a fact that in the end Bouncer was strongly considered.
and there is the fact that bouncer was thrown out
your argument hinges almost entirely on pd where conveniently enough hunter and fighter are disadvantaged and bouncer has the advantage
breaking parts has always been a big part of pd and bouncer having break stance is the main reason it has any form of consideration in pd
ask anyone with a brain to consider bouncer for anything else and they'll say no
>what
hunter is extremely consistent what are you talking about?
fighter's damage output is just so high that even with inconsistencies taken into account, the overall damage output is higher
>Does it matter when there isn't any reward or completely irrelevant reward anyway?
it does not
all i said is that is what tryhard teams are aiming for
one person deciding to solo pd is a display of the person's skill and coordination
a 12p mpa performing the fastest server time in pd consistently is a display of the team's skill and coordination
it has little bearing on the argument here

>>153288027
at a different level, bo also gets flak because anything it does, any other class just does it better
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>>153288198
>will make Bo worth a shit
what qualifies as worth a shit though?
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>>153288462
Dealing decent damage and not being a class that people tell you to not even consider playing and switch to another
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>>153287960
Yo get this, a Bo/Te can actually use zanverse and be very effective (44% from wind tree and whatever % from an applicable weapon, preferably coat doublas) at the one single time that it might be necessary on a non-breakable that also doesn't always happen and not many people even really do. Almost like Bo/Te break stance zanverse in PD is a Thing for a reason?
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>>153277216
me
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>>153288395
>the entire reason hu and fi do not work well against pd is exactly because of brave and wise stance
Except Fi/Hu still being barely behind Fo/Te who is not at a disadvantage. Actually Fi/Hu and Fo/Te times are proportionally similar to their times in other content too. Like shit, Bo/Hu on 90% of other content performs somewhere around Br/Hu and Hu/Fi.
>and there is the fact that bouncer was thrown out
Which is meaningless since it just shows it wasn't top tier which matters jackshit.
>hunter is extremely consistent what are you talking about?
Are you dumb. The top damage dealers Hunter uses are in no way consistent. Ignite Parry isn't consistent in how it relies on enemy to slap you first and you to put it JA'ed before he does. Volgraptor isn't consistent unless you are offloading it on something standing entirely still.
Holding Current also isn't consistent even if you facetank all hits if the boss moves too much. Yes even with macro.

Hell Sword is thrown out of any tryharding the moment someone remembers about Sacrifice Bite on top of gear drain making it terribly cumbersome for someone switching weapons a lot.
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>>153287960
You might have a point if the damage differences were comparable, but they are not. The best you can do on non breakables is a 20% stronger zanverse than Bo/Te, meanwhile a Bo/Te has a 98% stronger zanverse on breakables, which make up a significant part of the fight. To be fair though, it's probably not worth it anymore considering PD now has 0.6 wind multiplier.
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>>153288894
>>153289470
You are using two slots for something that only needs one. A te/gu will actually deal damage while giving a zanverse that have all multipliers all the time of the eq, and will give buffs on top of that. The bo/te is dealing absolutely no damage aside from the zanverse, that don't even work fully in the biggest chunk of hp.
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>>153289904
Why would you be slotting a Te/Gu in there if you're using a Bo/Te? You'd be using a Te/Ra.
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>>153290039
Wasn't me who brought up the te/gu. >>153287449
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>>153289081
>Except Fi/Hu still being barely behind Fo/Te who is not at a disadvantage
fihu literally has that much firepower.
you're just looking at boss fight situations
>Which is meaningless since it just shows it wasn't top tier which matters jackshit.
which makes your "consideration" bullshit also meaningless
>Are you dumb.
are you?
all enemies actively attack players, it's just a matter of time till an enemy slaps you and you can pull off an ignite parry
until then you can perform any other PA
sacrifice bite is shit
partisan isn't only volgraptor
wired lances isn't only holding current but is not a good candidate for anything either
bouncer is inconsistent because
- break stance isnt active on everything
- elemental stance does not work on mob groups with mixed elemental weaknesses, meaning certain enemies take less damage
- forced movement PAs on dbs mean consistently hitting a specific part on a moving target is difficult if it's not a boss that covers half the screen
- wildly disparate effectiveness of both weapons on different situations; sticking to one weapon just means bouncer deals acceptable damage only half the time now because you're bound to a fucking active skill

all that put into a practical situation makes bouncer far more of a liability than any other classes, not taking into account it's weaker damage output and the fact that you need to fill up hunter's satk up 2 and 3 just to make up for it

pso2 is not all fat raid boss battles
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>>153288198
When is the balance update coming even?
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>>153290194
Yeah that guy is wrong, you'd want a Te/Ra in there to fill both the buff and wb role, since the Bo/Te already has zanverse covered.
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>>153290598
when Ult Amduscia hits, most likely
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How does this skill tree look for Fi/Hu?
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>>153290039
>>153290194
I brought it up because you'd bring a Te/Gu (inb4 Te/Su) if you only wanted to use one slot on zanverse+Te buffs and Te/Ra zanverse isn't stronger than Bo/Te, which would completely remove any point about sacrificing damage on non-breakables. Also depending on what you have, Te/Gu might be a better option to take to assist in building chain when wbs are already covered.
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>>153290593
>all enemies actively attack players, it's just a matter of time till an enemy slaps you and you can pull off an ignite parry
And what do in the meantime. Depending on the frequency of enemy slapping you and whether the enemy is leaving himself open to attacks after you either use your most damaging PA a lot or not. Like holy shit basic logic. Any other PA doesn't do as much damage.
>partisan isn't only volgraptor
It's the only thing that makes Partizan DPS strong. Same situation as with Sword. If you ain't pulling volgraptor you aren't doing your best DPS and your other DPS isn't especially strong.
>wired lances isn't only holding current
Look above. Maximizing DPS equals maximizing HC.
>break stance isnt active on everything
Hu/Fi has wise stance which is secondary high damage mode too. Brave stance also suffers unreliability.
>elemental stance does not work on mob groups with mixed elemental weaknesses, meaning certain enemies take less damage
Same can be said of Fighter stances in mobbing situations, fair point but in TD it's meaningless when everything is light weak.
> forced movement PAs on dbs
It really isn't as hard to control especially considering how PBF is ranged anyway and PAs have got enough range. It would be huge for Bo/Fi with stances maybe but it's only certain weakpoints suffering and mostly you are supposed to be unloading PBF or Rapid.
>wildly disparate effectiveness of both weapons on different situations; sticking to one weapon just means bouncer deals acceptable damage only half the time now because you're bound to a fucking active skill
Even DB only Bouncer isn't bad enough to justify memes. Hell JB only Bouncer last I checked was doing 4:40 XHTA and Hu/Fi was 3:59. Fucking JB.
>the fact that you need to fill up hunter's satk up 2 and 3 just to make up for it
You mean you don't have to spend 15 sp Hu mains spend on basic weapon necessities?
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>>153291016
I'd bring halfline down to 4 points, put at least 1 point in both of the crazy skills, and max out deadline. I assume that's a shared hunter tree? If not, take 5 points out of fury combo and out of the hunter gear skills (or at least the sword one) and put a few of them into iron will.
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>>153291823
>And what do in the meantime.
>It's the only thing that makes Partizan DPS strong.
>Look above. Maximizing DPS equals maximizing HC.
all this says to me is that you don't fucking know how to play hunter
here's a hint
it's not spamming the strongest pa over and over
>Hu/Fi has wise stance which is secondary high damage mode too. Brave stance also suffers unreliability.
the damage output from both these stances outweigh the damage inconsistency
it also becomes more consistent if the player actually gits gud
in addition most fi players only use one stance
>JB only Bouncer last I checked was doing 4:40 XHTA and Hu/Fi was 3:59. Fucking JB.
do you know how fucking big that gap is
"only" is far understating 41 fucking seconds longer
>You mean you don't have to spend 15 sp Hu mains spend on basic weapon necessities?
that's spent on a hunter skill tree
not a bouncer skill tree

there's a pretty damn good reason bouncer is a fucking meme and its because it's a shitty class
welcome to pso2
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Remember how a bouncer was in the group that got 1:14 in traces
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>bouncer is bad meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA4l9rM9rkI
Reminder this nigga did it live too
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>>153293021
Bosses were nerfed there, I thought?
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>>153291016
Looks pretty sketchy and inefficient. I can recommend alternatives if you can tell me if this Hunter tree is ever going to use Hunter weapons, and how often you're going to be using LB.
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>>153294013
I probably will only use hunter weapons for leveling the class up. I don't know how often I'll use limit break, because I haven't had the chance to test it. I like the idea of it, and will probably use it a lot, but I might suck ass and die constantly with it.
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>>153294303
http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11dAbxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIo0jebdBIol2dBIrINGAdnIdJkrKI20000006doInI2bndAbofJkI2Hn2NdsqA00000fdoib0000000fdo0000000Io00000000ioIn00000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000lo000000j

Something like this is better suited towards someone playing FI who isn't going to be LBing often. Fury Combo only needs 5 points, because you still get the full 10% bonus, just one JA slower. Maxing Automate is almost necessary with how good it is. 3 points in Step Advance will make your dodge more forgiving, which is important for FI weapons. 1 point in Healing Guard because it'll trigger during TD Spins that parry. You can also consider dropping points from Flash Guard 1 and Massive Hunter, since there's a MH skill ring now, and MH is fairly situational.

On the FI side, Chase is a good skill line and your only real option if you aren't going to be using LB much. The slayer skills aren't very good these days because flat ATK doesn't give as much oomph as it once did, but they're still okay if you have nothing else.

There'll be an all tree reset pass given during the next balance update, so if you feel more comfortable with using LB liberally, you can always change your trees to be dedicated towards that.
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>>153292745
>all this says to me is that you don't fucking know how to play hunter
>it's not spamming the strongest pa over and over
It fucking is when something has DPS and DPP way above your other options, you want to hit with it as much as possible. If you don't your DPS drops and that's it. It's in essence inconsistent DPS. You know how inconsistent putting out your maximal DPS as Sword is? You have to be constantly attacked by the enemy with just enough time between blows to perform full hit Ignite Parrying + JG with sonic arrow for TAJA. And it all should hit god forbids it's one of those bosses that moves with every attack and doesn't just stand there for you to unleash that counter attack. The biggest damage dealers on Hunter aren't just dumb spam to win PAs. You can't both call Bouncer inconsistent and then call class whose maximal DPS rotation involves counter attacks, PAs like HC or Volg, stance dance or always staying in front of the enemy, and TAJA combos, super mega consistent DPS.
>in addition most fi players only use one stance
Most Bouncer players probably too. Fighter stances are actually less consistent on EQs with darker only enemies than just putting on the fucking ele stance.
>"only" is far understating 41 fucking seconds longer
With fucking Jet Boots only. Talk about inefficient.
>that's spent on a hunter skill tree
And Bo can get more satk that Hu does out of its own tree.
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Ponthi BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AvkgYeBLV0
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>>153295329
you're just so fucking ignorant and stubborn, is this how all bouncer players are? no wonder you fucks are memes
is it too hard to go change your class
learn to play for a few weeks
and compare each class objectively?

i cant fucking argue with you because all you say is theorycrafting bullshit and this reply right here pretty much confirms you can't play hunter for shit
compare pracit
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>>153295892
Ok you ran out of fucking arguments. You are a dumbass. I don't even play Bouncer.
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>>153296019
then dont fucking act like you know everything about bouncer

if it looks good on paper it's not necessarily good in practice
you're just a fucking retard getting into an argument knowing nothing about what you're arguing for
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>>153296019
saying you don't play a class you're arguing about just weakens your credibility tbqh
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When transfering ships, everything in your character storage and everything you're carrying on you transfer over as well, right?
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>>153296342
yes
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>>153296157
You don't need to know everything about Bouncer to stop bullshit from miles. Especially shit like people calling class that has large DPS variation from boss to boss just because it either synthesizes or not with the strongest moves and overall strong points.

You just fucking refuse to call Ignite Parrying weak in consistency. Even though it becomes completely useless in boss stun phases, even though some bosses just get stunlocked too much, even though some bosses will just pass through you with their attacks. Or maybe you just say it's consistent cause you can access your weaker DPS? Protip: Bouncer can do it too.
>>153296180
I don't care about my credibility. You have enough proof everywhere.
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I heard that twin daggers are good for bossing, but I don't know what PAs to use.
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>>153296342
>transferring to shit 2.
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>>153297024
Symphonic Dive all slots.
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>>153296902
lol k
have fun with your kiritos and negative dps mememboots
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>>153297024
Symphonic Drive, Fall Nocturne, Quick March, Wild Rhapsody.
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>>153296180
Not him, but I actually play Bouncer and Hunter a lot. What he's saying is spot on. Hunter has to work harder is slower, and much more situation dependent than Bouncer by far while not being that much better. I would also rather bring Bouncer to raid EQs and seasonals than Hunter, but Hunter is fucking amazing in Ult.
Bouncer's only problems is that it doesn't do as much damage as FI, has to gather 7+ weapons to even function well enough, and has support that isn't even noticeable to most classes in the game. Every other complaint should be disregarded honestly, and it's perfectly fine for the class to not deal as much damage as FI if the support problem gets fixed.
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>>153297495
I remember when nocturne first came out and everyone called it complete garbage
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>>153298419
cute character OH
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>>153298346
I always thought it was decent, but it's better nowadays because of Tech Arts PP and TD Chase.
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>>153298346
It was, without TD air chase ring.
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>>153297138
What is this "negative DPS" meme. How can DPS be negative?
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>>153299324
buzzword use of the word 'negative'

it means dealing less damage than what could have been
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>>153299324
It voids other zanverses, while dealing less damage than them.
Literally bringing negative total damage to the group.
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>>153299324
Negative damage refered specifically to retard Bos overwriting a good zanverse and kicking enemies around with moment gale. I guess some people didn't understand that joke though and turned it into 'lol Bo = negative DPS xd'.
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>>153299834
There are so many modifiers and i doubt i know which works with zanverse but generally a "good" zanverse is any TE one with points invested in wind mastery right?
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how to turn 999 excubes into meseta?
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>>153300362
sell em you get 1998 meseta
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>>153299834
Okay that actually makes sense, I can understand the zanverse thing, though I think anyone with an ounce of common sense simply wouldn't overwrite a zanverse.

>>153300362
Buy grinders from excube shop, vendor them. 1stack of cubes is like 11m.
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>>153300362
use 30% boosters and upslot some 4-5 slot affix fodder
people can be so lazy that they will pay premium for stuff they could do on their own
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>>153300164
Te with wind masteries, shifta strike, 20% wind damage pot or 16% red weapon pot or similar, ult buster and weak drink where applicable. Then you can get 20 or 21% unconditional by subbing Gu or Su, or go Bo with break/elemental stance where applicable and mag clobber. Swiki entry on zanverse has a list with all pots that work and some other, more situational stuff.
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>>153300490
Or they're just afraid of rng
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>>153297948
> Hunter has to work harder is slower, and much more situation dependent than Bouncer
i feel like that holds true in sh and to an extent lv75 xh
but in td, rush eqs, and of course ultimate, i tend to prefer hunter players over bouncers because in my experience a good hunter is a beast and contributes more than a good bouncer
i also tend to perform better and feel like i contribute more as a hunter in raid eqs and td over bouncer
>Bouncer's only problems is that it doesn't do as much damage as FI
bouncer's entire skill tree is a bee's nest of problems
and i've said it several times during the previous argument but it is still overshadowed by every other class (outside of su - and even then maron/melon and the new pet may change things) in terms of what it can do
there's a huge amount of other problems i can talk about without end and unless you're curious about my thoughts i try not to elaborate on it so much because it would sound like a whole lot of nitpicking

for all intents and purposes player skill is a much larger factor of performance compared to class choice, but in my experience hunter has a far better potential, and slightly better average output over bouncer.
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the gathering system was introduced so that people can enjoy gathering between events of importance such as EQs

but how can I gather in the free fields while my boosts are running and there's nothing but RIDING quests at the moment?
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>>153302667
>good hunter is a beast
Show me a good hunter
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>>153303669
you can find them on youtube
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>>153303785
Show me a good Hunter that will actually join my MPA
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>>153303872
try messaging them on youtube
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>>153303345
>enjoy gathering between events of importance such as EQs
I PRESSED E
HOLY SHIT I PRESSED E AGAIN
NOO ANOTHER TIME I PRESSED E SO MUCH FUN HAHA
I WISH I COULD GATHER ALL DAY OH NO I RAN OUT OF STAMINA
IT'S OKAY I WILL CURL IN A BALL AND WAIT 6 HOUR FOR MY STAMINA TO REFILL BECAUSE I ENJOY GATHERING
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>>153304014
Show me a good Hunter that I won't spill my spaghetti talking to
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>>153304079
try putting the spagetti in a bowl
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>>153303872
Ask tyrone-sama
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>>153304280
Wrong ship
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>>153304039
E for [E]NJOY
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As a stop-gap for while I'm trying to get a 10 star or fulfill the file requirements, should I use an extended weapon?
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I just realized there was no ARKS League this week at all. What's up with that?
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>>153307231
not realy
crafting is a huge money sink, only red weapons are worth crafting.
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>>153308357
More like learning crafting is a huge money sink. Crafted red you make someone else craft for you is good until you get 13* mostly.
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>>153308338
Sega realized that with Arks Leagues there was almost no reason to purchase star gems, and they can't have that now can they?
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>>153308338
Sega just wants you to fully enjoy vegas instead of pecking each others eyes trying to see who logs at the "correct time" and who has the best farming spot
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>>153308357
What am I supposed to do for a weapon then?
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>>153309382
It's ironic because Riding Quests would be a great way to have a relatively fair objective where you could just shoot for the highest score during the period.
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>>153309003
>what are SGs from the casino
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>>153309382
I had more fun doing Arks league than anything in this Vegas update.
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>>153309771
Those take significantly more effort to get and aren't super worth it for the time involved.
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>>153309771
Limited to what, 15 per week?
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>>153312145
30 or so, I think.
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When will Sega add in VR support?
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>>153312198
40

You gt 1 10sg and 6 5sg
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Where is Green Cat? I haven't erp in 5 days. . .
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>>153312713
He probably already quit
More's the pity.
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>>153314223
Why would he quit?

Last i talked he said his work schedule was kinda rough
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>scratch 3 medals, get raita
Guess I'll take it, even though I don't really need it and it doesn't really synergise with any loadout I have due to assist chip selections.
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>>153316292
Fuck you
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>>153316417
I scratched more medals for bio beld last week (and only got it on characters who already had it), I want bio beld because it works in every loadout I need. 120/110% chase > 180/190+50% E frame, when my assist chip list pretty much entirely consists of D/E frame due to people changing chips all the time.
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>>153316292
i can't tell if that is FAT or SKINNY
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>>153317970
Search for 'raita' on panda.
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>>153318591
but how will this answer my question
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>>153318692
You will be able to get an understanding of his art style, and thus be able to tell if that is FAT or SKINNY.
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>>153317970
it's actually bony
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>>153316292
Wasn't Nhite supposed to hotglue this
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>>153319681
ask him, not me.
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>>153318880
after careful PURELY SCIENTIFIC analysis and cross referencing i have determined that my results are

inconclusive
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>>153320983
Time to go analyse it longer and harder then
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>Haven't played in like 6 months
>Hear there's a new "collection file" thing that makes getting gear easy as fuck
>Try for the Vegas knuckles
>Kill sphinx lady
>0.45%
Am I doing this wrong or some shit? My schedule doesn't give me the time to kill 1000 sphinxes, but I'd like to get some new gear.
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>>153321386
Vegas is a bit of an outlier
Your rare drop boosts also affect the percentage
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>>153321506
Is it a multiplier? Like 0.45 x 2.5 if I use a 250?
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>>153321889
yes
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>>153321386
make sure you're doing rideroid quest if you actually wanna do file stuff for vegas
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Is there any reason for a FO/TE to not max both Light Mastery skills?
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So about Voice tickets, does a cast character HAVE to use the cast version or can they use the normal ones as well?
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>>153325071
must be cast version
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>>153320983
Raitas art now is more questionable.
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13* trading when?
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>>153327228
After Rings trading
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Invade when
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>>153327871
For a faggot like you, I hope never.
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>>153328451
:^(
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zext

why did you forsake newmanity
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>>153328794
Let this ship sink. Destruction brings creation. We might even get a good PS game this time.
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>>153328957
We haven't gotten one int the past 30 years what makes you think they'd start now
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>ドレスシャツ

lewd
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>>153329089
PSO was good
This one was good until late ep3
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>>153329218
>PSO was good
No it wasn't.
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>>153329218
>PSO was good

Only interesting about it was the atmosphere and the story presentation.
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>>153329218
EP3 wasn't great and had very few interesting releases.
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>>153328794
>goes to 9gag
>goes to plebbit
>uses discord
>ship 2
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>>153331767
AND WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE
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What ring for Ra?
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>>153324392
Please? Anyone?
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>>153332792
You should get both, yes. I can't think of any reason not to have both unless you really need Wind/Dark (for whatever obscure reason), and at that point it's less about not-maxing light and more about not even having it whatsoever. I'm not sure why you'd need to not max both light masteries though, more damage is always great.
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>>153332901
What's the ideal spread, then? Full light, full dark, 2 points in Wind Mastery 1 and at least 1 point in Wind Mastery 2?
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>>153333010
Get a tree for each element and 2 more for dark+wind and light+wind.
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>>153333646
I'm a poorfag, so that's not an option. What can I do to have maximum general utility without multiple trees?
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>>153333928
Other classes.
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>>153333948
No. I can deal with being sub-optimal, but you can't possibly tell me Force is unworkable without dropping fun coupons on a korean dressup simulator.
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>>153334357
You need to match element, so you can choose a single element to work on until you have to get extra skill trees.
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>>153333010
If you can only have a single tree, your techer should have light and dark on it. A second tree would have ice and wind.

>>153333646
There is literally no reason to get a tree with only one element on the techer side.
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>>153335232
Oops, meant light and wind.
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>>153335232
Dealing more damage is enough of a reason. You don't need wind mastery in quests where you won't zanverse and/or there are 4 bouncers that only moment gale.
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>>153335442
Uh, what? I'd really wanna know what quest you'd be running where you'd be casting fire and/or dark and not light techs. If you are in full honesty trying to claim that 40 tatk is worth 5 real world dollars, and only in situations where you wouldn't use zanverse but are using ice (which I can't even think of a single situation for), then lol.
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>>153335775
How do I keep saying ice when I mean light
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>>153335775
I use dark/wind on TDs, and it's been since the PD revamp that I've been running a pure light tree on the techer side.
I know this sounds foreign yo you, but you can leave zanverse to other players on superbosses.
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>>153333010
Fire Fo + Light/Dark Te is the most rounded class just because of Fire/Light being common weaknesses, Dark for the remaining few, and Fire/Dark Mastery giving you more semi-optimized Fomelgions. You'll lack as strong of bossing damage even on light element-weak bosses though, as no Ice Mastery means you'll have weaker Baranstions.

It's not like you can't play the class with only one skill tree, Light/Fire/Dark are pretty common weaknesses, but it's kinda unfun to only play with half the elements and have shitty damage on the things weak to the other elements.
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>>153336131
Why are you not running light in TD? Zondeel+ragrants is one of your best mobbing tools.

Also man do you know how few people actually run wind trees? You're probably not going to get another one if you're running pubs.
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>>153336816
I've tested it, fire techs are so much better for spawnkilling than light on TD it's not even funny. The only reason I haven't dropped wind mastery in it yet is because nobody zanverse the AIS, even if there is a techer around he will just hop on another AIS on apprentice.
I guess if you have 2ms latency you can properly zondeel and cast ragrants on the spawns before the goldrahdas break out of it, but that is not my case and probably isn't yours either.
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>>153337137
I mean that's great for you. Too bad many others have tested agreed that talis zondeel+ragrants is godlike in TD.
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ten
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>>153337137
>I've tested it, fire techs are so much better for spawnkilling than light on TD it's not even funny.
Oh man anon, don't make me laugh this hard so early in the morning. Ra grants is actually so far ahead of any fire techs, you can't even begin to compare the two.
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>>153339414
gifoie is better at tagging intial spawns though, given ping issues and such.
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>>153339414
The problem with ragrants is that it relies heavily on zondeel, and on latency because of that, meanwhile you can precoat the spawn area with 3 gifoies, meaning you'll already have enough damage to kill the goldrahdas in the field as they spawn.
Light is much better on the minority of slow, not fire weak, water darkers, I'll give you that.
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>>153339653
>>153339668
>meanwhile you can precoat the spawn area with 3 gifoies, meaning you'll already have enough damage to kill the goldrahdas in the field as they spawn.
3 pre-casted Gi Foies is nowhere near enough to spawn kill golds, if it does kill them it's because someone else was there and basically killing them for you. I was going to show you a recording of me doing zondeel + ra grants just fine, but unfortunately the only mining base recordings I have saved don't show that and most of the ones you can find on youtube will probably have someone else zondeeling. You'll just have to believe me when I say that it's doable, even with ping issues.
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>>153341439
Ah, yes, there was always someone there killing them for me, even when I was testing it solo on the first wave of TD4.
You don't stop casting after they spawn.
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>>153320983
>the way she holds the gun
wut
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>>153341636
Then it's not 3 Gi Foie anymore, so you're wasting a lot of extra time and PP on something that would actually die in just 3-4 Ra Grants. Not to mention you probably won't even fill your compound when there are people there killing them with you.
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>>153341974
Here's the thing, you'll have killing bonus ring on and recover most of the pp, what don't happen with a talis ragrants. And the time it takes is pretty much the same of waiting them spawn to release the zondeel and cast ragrants a few times.
But if you have godlike latency go on and do your thing, man. Nothing is stopping you.
>don't worry I'll just ragrants and-
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24462772
>oh...
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I want to make my second character a Force. While I might be willing to spend money on them later, I immediately want something that can run dailies. What kind of a skill tree should I be building towards so I can level/run dailies, but also function later on when I have a skill tree for each element?
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Austere TMG's are the current best right?
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>>153342378
austere anything is the best anything right now.
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>>153343384
In terms of damage you are correct but for stuff like launcher i just cant see any reason not to get orbit one instead
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>>153343613
Well yeah, orbit's are pretty much the second best weapon option, probably the best if you know how to manage your pp. I use orbit everything where the option is available, rather than austere or anything else. I suppose ray is up there too now though given how different it is.
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>>153343384
What about Titan?
That thing outdamage Austere right?
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>>153344013
The new Titan weapons are also better damage than austere and the demerit of taking 15% more damage is hardly relevant. Some Tokyo/Yamato weapons can also be stronger if you have enough crit/don't mind the PP regen demerit (a good example would be AIS rifle).
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>>153344242
How about the 3 falz weapons?
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>>153344398
They're so rare I forgot they existed. The 30% PP cost up was a pretty big Issue on TMG atleast but it should be a lot better now. DS had the problem of not affecting the whirlwind but I think that's fixed now with the ring. I'd have to look at psod though since these things tend to be within 1-2% difference.
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Gu x
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>>153344571
http://4rt.info/psod/?xh5yE
There are a lot of assumptions going into this, like 150 ATK on all units, both shooting ups in Ra tree, hitting weak element, crit ring etc. so your numbers might be slightly different, but generally speaking the differences are tiny.
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>>153346396
Tokyo potential is multiplicative, not additive.
Your numbers are wrong.
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>>153346519
Are you sure? Swiki says otherwise.
潜在3の場合、弱点で6%、弱点+クリティカルで16%、非弱点だとクリティカルしても0%
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>>153346589
It boosts two different damage multipliers.
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>>153346789
According to swiki they're one multiplier that gets 10% added on when you crit. It would make sense cosnidering a crit on a non weakpoint gives you no multiplier.
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>>153346396
If you are not feeling super bored could you do the same for butts?please
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Wait why am I getting meseta instead of rappy medals now
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>>153349194
Inactivity punishment
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I just finished my lv200 S-atk mag. What are good devices to use/good trigger actions? I'm currently raising HU and FI to 75, no particular 'end game' playstyle in mind.
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>>153349882
vacuum imploder or pp fish
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>somebody complain
>ask them they can fix it by buying a single 200k item
>"too expensive"
>they proceed to spam /la rappy's
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>>153349313
How active do I need to be
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>>153352279
>/la rappy
He might actually be poor now
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>>153357008
I want to summon my dick in her mouth
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>yfw you check alll your old buddies MY ROOM and they're all empty as fuck

W-where is everyone?!
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>>153357198
EP4 happened
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>>153357469
UFO's probably the worst of these yet.
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Which loadout should I exterminate Noire Draal with for the ranking, if I choose to rank? The first isn't the strongest but I have a metric assload of E frame chips in my list, the second pretty much only works with Yami which only have a couple of, and the last works with Yami or chase, which I also lack a lot of. These are different characters so swapping chips around isn't really an option.
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>>153348630
>please
http://4rt.info/psod/?8io6Y
I don't play bouncer so I'm not sure if this is accurate, but it seems pretty straight forward. I put the Power Value of gear 3 vinto so these numbers should be what vinto hits for on a non-weakpoint so you can see if the modifiers are correct or if I forgot something. Shouldn't change anything about the relative difference even if they're off though.
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>>153357198
No one goes into their rooms except to ERP
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>>153358238
I-I like fucking around in my room though
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>>153357198
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>>153358378
I bet you do, you little fuckslut
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What the actual fuck is Sega doing? Why are japs still playing?

I'm so confused.
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>>153357972
It literally doesn't matter
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>>153358767
>What the actual fuck is Sega doing?
Not much
>Why are japs still playing?
Everybody still remembers EP3 and Sega announced Ultimate Amduscia + new rebalance which is what people loved about it.
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>>153358767
Social/casual aspect
new players
extreme tryhards
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>>153358767
Because it's easy to pick up and play, unlike say, Dragon's Dogma Online
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>>153358727
not that way, you cumslut
>>
what's the best way to grind up as a solo player?
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haven't played for 3 months is there any fun new content?Are the Las Vegas and flying machine thing fun?
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>>153361038
Make friends
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>>153361081
It's fun, but it's not like it's a non-stop orgasm or anything
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>>153358880
>people
Maybe you loved it, but I remember the overall response to UQ being negative. That's why they had to readjust it so much.
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>>153361857
The biggest mistake was making only one enemy in there actually worth the trouble to kill
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>>153361857
>negative response
>one free field mission being grinded for like month
>readjustment featured something to stop most efficient 13* farming method and retarded nerf to Naberius that caused people to flock to the quest for 1 week due to new 13* and drop rate adjustments and then leave it alone
>nerf that wasn't followed with ultimate lilipa due to even sega seeing how retarded it was
Cmode and Ultimate Quests were the most positive response quests in the game's history.
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>>153362390
Lilipa in its release state was already much easier than Naberius. The Nab nerf that followed essentially just brought it in-line with Lilipa and probably should have happened much sooner than it actually did, but I suppose they had a hole in August that they needed to fill with some bullshit
>>
What's the best solo class?

I want to be able to solo bosses on my own for COs.

Time is not an issue, I just want to know the safest set up
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>>153357469
Yeah UFO is the equivalent of the stupid darker house for Vegas. Obnoxious as fuck.
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>>153363274
Hunter either as a main or sub has the easiest time
But it's possible with anyone with sufficient gear and knowledge of the game
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>>153362970
Lilipa wasn't easier than Naberius. Lilipa was pretty much pre nerf Naberius except with less retarded shit. At most you had Force with a new compound making it easier. Nab nerf was just plainly a failure and didn't revive shit. New drops gave Nab life before it returned to the dead after everyone realized the 13* are shit.

Leone and Leopard were faster than Diabo and spammed even more AoE for example. On the other hand Lilipa didn't have Garongo with their roll being able to wipe midair FI/Hus. Gunkaizers still caused many tears
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>>153363484
the house is easy as fuck to deal with
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>>153351718
I'm now using the vacuum PB, it's nice, thanks.
Any trigger action tips?
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>>153363621
>Lilipa wasn't easier than Naberius.
It absolutely was, everything in there clearly had less HP and this was long before they started handing 13* out like candy.

The new compound helped, of course, but they're all fire weak and every FO and their mother is fire specced. Jamurgles or whatever they were are naturally Zondeel resistant (did they tone down the infection core spread too?), the trash in there is just much easier to deal with.

MPAs would clear it in a fraction of the time it took for old Naberius
>>
Me and my friends have been looking into downloading this game. Is it any similar to Phantasy Star Universe? Is it easy to figure out installing / English patching?
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>draw heterochromia
>call it a new race

Why is PSO so stupid
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>>153364853
They also have horns
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>>153364543
>It absolutely was, everything in there clearly had less HP and this was long before they started handing 13* out like candy.
Nope. Falke combo had I think more hp than Diabo when taken together. I think same was true of Zeta Grants versus Naberius minibosses but Zeta Grants didn't spawn in multiples. Lilipa had its own hp sponges like those bipedal robots.
>MPAs would clear it in a fraction of the time it took for old Naberius
But clearing UQ is more about getting e-codes. If it's true it's probably just added ecodes to Lilipa.
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>>153363651
I didn't say difficult did I?
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>>153365229
You said "obnoxious" which implies it exists for more than two seconds after spawning for you
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>>153365310
Yes, that does happen sometimes and it is obnoxious as hell when it goes into slam around like crazy mode.

Thus I find it obnoxious.
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>>153364543
pls bring back 3 miniboss + big boss spawns again
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>draw pointy ears
>call it a new race
Why is everyone so stupid?
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>>153367176
there's no other criteria
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Love me right /pso2g/~
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>>153370304
I don't love you at all, faceless stranger
For all I know you could have a terrible face or even worse a terrible personality
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>>153371369
what about their body does it look good?
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>>153372259
can't see it with all that clothing in the way.
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>>153372619
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mPgowAqku0

are there any proponents of this ring willing to share their insight?
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>>153370304
>>153373736
Just post her damn face
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>>153373736
it's ok, but your breasts will have very little jiggle. If you're fine with no jiggle then whatever.

slut.
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>>153373813
It's faster
The issue isn't with the ring itself but rather that there are better options
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Bo/Hu solo
https://twitter.com/PONTDF/status/770401978350309376
swordfags BTFO
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>>153374590
I'm no good with anime face. no bully

>>153374609
I added a little
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>>153375453
Nose needs to be bigger, maybe lower her eyebrows a bit. If you're not gonna with anime face, why not try normal?
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>>153358767
Because they actually like EP4. Because EP4 is good.
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>>153375858
I might go back to normal face but anime face had piqued my interest
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>>153376334
Animeface only works with small body types and certain hairs. If your character is in the height range of ~165cm+, normal face is better because it doesn't look out of place with the body.
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>>153376603
She's 149 cm I might swap hairstyles though
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>>153376805
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>>153376603
>Animeface only works with small body types and certain hairs
Only if you're bad at sculpting it. There's been a lot of great examples of people pulling off a more mature look with the animu face. It's especially easier now with actual neck / head sliders.
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>>153376868
I was not aware that 149cm was loli height
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>>153377267
You can't be serious.
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>>153377357
I was told that loli height was exactly 144 or less
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Where are all the girls with THICK eye brows?
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>>153337137
I wish zondeel wasn't so lag sensitive on goldrahdas.
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>>153376868
>googles Average loli height
>Its 145-155cm

I-i'm sorry
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>>153376235
>Nip has shit taste

No surprise there.
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dedthread
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>>153383725
dedgame
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Dont forget to pick up Project Diva X in stores now!
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>>153384429
but it's shit
I'd rather go buy the first game
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>>153384429
fuck off sign

I will
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>>153384429
It's only digital in euroland
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>>153384429
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>>153384587
Go buy it right now its just as good and 60fps!
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>>153376868
Go away Tewi, you're worst 2hu.
Cirno can stay, though.
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>tfw we used to go through multiple threads a day
>tfw this one's been up for 2 days already
I'm so sad, guys.
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>>153386959
its because no avatarposting and muh theory crafting. thank god lilith fucked off to play cuckdictus and the other fags are on xiv
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Is there a western release date?

Any hope for it?
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>>153385447
Buying it means you support her disgusting model.
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>>153385447
I dislike the track list
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>>153386959
Nothing lasts forever
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Daily reminder that Bouncer is doing negative damage
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>>153387212
It came out worldwide today
That includes the west
>>153387241
You mean future tone?
X has the normal models from F
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>>153388542
holy shit really? i can't even
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>>153388779
If you mean pso2 release then NEVER EVER
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>>153388381
When can launchers be good
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>>153389206
they already are
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>>153389206
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>>153389383
What PAs do I use then
Everything dies before I hit it in partys
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>>153389206
Only downside to launchers is you have to hit a weakpoint to deal respectable damage. Compare that to melee/tech where they can just hit just about anywhere and deal good damage, it makes launcher a meh mobbing tool. Still pretty damn hilarious to one shot a mob spawn with a well placed divine launcher C.
>>
>>153391085
That's not a launcher thing, it's a ranger thing.
>>
How's this game doing financially? Is it still paving the way for Sega or did it die down a bit?
>>
>>153392221
It's gone down. That's why they introduced the mobile game currency star gems and the bonus scratch. They're desperate for money now.
It's funny though, all they needed to do is make actual content and costumes that don't look like shit.
>>
>>153392221
My dad works at Sega and they said the game is dead.
They use this thread to get info btw
>>
What are the best Sword PAs?

I wanna finish leveling my HU but have fun doing it
>>
>>153393292
>costumes that don't look like shit
Most of what we've got this year is actually good
Especially the cast parts
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>>153393583
Sacrifice Bite to get a bunch of extra damage, then rising -> nova -> repeat is a solid all-around damage dealer.
Ignition Parry is the best PA, both in damage and FUN, but it's also somewhat situational.
>>
>>153390830
Cluster bullet, divine launcher type-0, more situationally cosmos breaker and zero distance as well.
>>
Why does mod farming have to be pure cancer with getting groups
>>
>>153394417
brb erp
>>
>>153394417
Because you and/or your friends are pure shit.
>>
>>153394524
stop projecting bruh
>>
>>153394603
Stop being pure shit bruh
>>
>>153393292
>>153393381
So now that game is 'dying' does that mean it will be released in the west aka desperate cash grab?
>>
>>153394893
why are you projecting so hard bruh go for a walk lmao i bet you are neet with a rotting brain rofl
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>>153394417
It's really not. You just gotta make the right connections.
>>
>>153395000
possibly
>>
>>153395000
Delusion is advancing
>>
>>153395009
Sorry I can't hear you behind all these modulators I have
Maybe one day you'll stop being pure shit and senpai will notice you
>>
>NEW IP LMAOXD
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>>153395000
I can't wait for this so we can all get ip blocked and start over again.
>>
>>PSO2es players:
I have enough gold sand to completely max out one of the two weaponoid chips from that event quest thing.
Which one do I max?

Picture just because.
>>
>>153396286
Whichever one you're actually gonna use.
I just grabbed both for when/if they add their story quests.
>>
>>153393583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoAfeBwVsds
>>
>a year later and still no content

Jesus Christ just let it end
>>
>>153398581
>a year
More like 30 years senpai
>>
>>153399097
>talking shit about Phantasy Star
I'll wreck ye m8, swear on me photons
>>
WHO THE FUCK GAVE DEADLY CIRCLE CRAFT GREEN LIGHT

ARE PA CRAFTS EVEN QUALITY CHECKED
>>
>>153401264
>muh stick waving class
No one cares.
>>
>>153401737
what the fuck are you atalking about?
>>
>>153402012
MELEE IS SHIT
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>
>>153402260
That's not what your wife said
>>
>>153402423
Did you enjoy her feminine dick?
The more you pump in, the more she pumps out for me.
>>
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Hey pso2g.
Havin some tweaker problems
Been a few weeks since I launched so pso2 had to update. It was blink fast was expecting something larger so I continue on anyways(didn't get the usual green progress bar buisness). When I finally get in game it gives me error 640 (Mismatched Game Version).So I tried to restart but now every time I launch pso2tweaker it still tells me there's an update and does the same thing, If I try check for pso2 updates (new method) nothing happens, should I give old method a go?
>>
>>153402635
>tweaker
Found your problem on the second line.
>>
>>153402559
She said ranged and magic classes are for cucks

>>153402635
Check for old and missing files
>>
>>153402916
Melee is for turbocucks so gay they can't even pleasure a dick.
>>
>>153403172
prove it
>>
>>153403280
It's common knowledge.
Tell me how many girly dicks have you pleasured this week? None? Okay.
>he's so beta he can't even approach a girl's dick without dropping spaghetti all over the room
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>>153403754
>spaghetti
I'm more of a ravioli kinda guy
>>
>>153403845
Sasuga melee.
Even his pasta is small.
>>
>>153402916
Thanks familia, seems to be doing the trick.
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Melee is the best.
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>>153403968
Techer is melee
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>>153404167
Techer is half gay too
>>
>>153404342
RUDE
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>>153367176
numans have a deep and interesting culture and history
>>
rip thread
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>>153396286
It doesn't matter. Both of them are shit.
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>>153404342
My Techer is 100% heterosexual
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>ac scratch food: 50% RDR up for 30 minutes
>scratch 10 times for room goods
>scratch 15 times for pete evolution device
>scratch 25 times for /la airboard
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>>153414679
Forgot to add new "special ability add" from PSU anniversary
GRM
Tenora
Youmei(?)
no idea about the stats
>>
>>153415507
Like each other?
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>>153415840
I hope! If anyone needs I can be their partner!
>>
i guess now that the servers are down the shitposting will keep the thread alive.

not the best outcome but better than nothing
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>>153417309
>>
>>153417309
Te/Br
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unlike ZEXT

Closet has not forsaken us
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Post characters and music lol ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSuER5Sgh0
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>>153417309
Orbit Gu/Fo
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Post Mosaics and carrotcakesters. www (´・ω・`)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToD9rw_QoJY
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>>153418586
get on discord
>>
Who is the biggest jew in pso2g?
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Post Malone :=]
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>>153419215
Lilith
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>>153418586
did i give you permission to post slut?
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>>153418375
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>>153419743
Nishi pls
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>>153420015
delete this it's not even him
>>
WHITE POWER
>>
ahahahahahahaahhahahaha
>>
>>153420015
What is closet holding?
>>
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Post other peoples characters and other peoples music hehe ;p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymhhlwZUSoc
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>>153420935
ur mom
>>
>>153421118
I want to punch that nerd's face while hugging them.
>>
>>153420935
that THING isn't CLOSET
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>>153421483
Yes it is, I saw that hand before.
And filenames don't lie.
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>>153419743
I don't need your permission, I'm a big b-boy now

>>153421480
If I had 5 seconds more I would've knocked your precious, little block off. Dork.
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>>153422238
>If I had 5 more seconds
Well you didn't. Git gud. Get hugged, loser.
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Nice thread guys.
>>
Post new thread and whatever
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>>153424228

>>153424236
>>153424236
>>153424236
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