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/ssbg/ - Super Smash Bros. General

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>News
- Update 1.1.6 now available for download!

- 1.1.6 Balance Patch Notes:http://smashboards.com/threads/436806/

- 1.1.5 Balance Patch Notes:http://smashboards.com/threads/433162/

>Resources and Guides
http://pastebin.com/vN9tKBx1

/ssbg/ has an OFFICIAL tournament now made by Falafel:
http://challonge.com/outerhaven
September 15, 2016 at 7:00 PM PDT

/ssbg/ has an OFFICIAL discord now made by Chronos:
https://discordapp.com/invite/0kMyiyd1r38A7kIF
It's open for everyone and has no moderation - If you can't get along with others use the blocking function.

Previous thread: >>152739945
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Thank you kind anon
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The Smash League is running now, use the general and the discord to organize your matches!

Bracket a with the discord links for matchmaking:

Wii U: http://challonge.com/4chansmashleague

3DS:
http://challonge.com/4chansmashleague3ds

NOTE: If you want to join the league, contact me.
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>>152880957
>>152880967
Nigga...
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Anyone else excited for Falafels tournament?
I hope he commentates the matches
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Tell me about Pit
>Horrendous safety on everything
>Terrible disadvantage, no airborne movement speed
>Can't kill for shit
>Recovery is pretty slow and lacks a hurtbox, easy gimp bait
Why is he mid tier?
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We're actually over here. This thread was made first.
>>152874759
>>152874759
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>>152881649
>wrong OP information

>wrong previous thread

Better luck next time
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>>152882001
We have the real discord link in the OP, fuck off
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>>152882001
Chad, calm down.
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>>152881439
I wonder about that myself, Earth is showing nice results and Nairo did some crazy stuff with Pit aswell

I wish there were more Pit mains out there but I guess he is just not rewarding enough, similar to Peach
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>>152882001
>moderated by the troublemaker No.1 chazo
What a joke
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>>152882514
>What a joke
What did you expect from a clown?
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Posting in both threads, I guess. Not sure which is active.

How do I improve as Samus in Sm4sh? I really like the character.

I play on 3DS because no WiiU, sometimes press to jump gives me a long jump instead of a short hop on Samus.

My Zair game is garbage.

I can't ledge trump into reverse charged shot for the life of me, fast enough. And sometimes I get missiles instead. Am I pressing B too fast after flicking?

How do you do the repeating first jab? A into Down into A over and over?

Tell me your best Samus strats. I've only been playing Smash for 2 years, and my experience is Smash 4 and Project M, so anything helps.

I'd just like to improve for local and online play. Especially online since that's where I'm destroyed the most. Like literally shit on. And it just isn't input lag. I'm aware that I suck. Thanks in advance.
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>>152884581
>sometimes press to jump gives me a long jump instead of a short hop on Samus.
Don't use tap jump, go into training mode and get used to do shorthops

>My Zair game is garbage.
You will get better with time, maybe you just need to figure out the timing to use it.

>I can't ledge trump into reverse charged shot for the life of me, fast enough. And sometimes I get missiles instead. Am I pressing B too fast after flicking?

For any reverse move: first press the action button then the direction
Again: exercise this, you won't be able to do it consistently on your first attempts

>How do you do the repeating first jab? A into Down into A over and over?
Yes?

>Tell me your best Samus strats.
I don't play Samus too often

>I'd just like to improve for local and online play.
In my experience you will improve the more you go to locals, of course same goes for online matches but keep in mind online will always feel slightly different from offline depending on the connection
>Especially online since that's where I'm destroyed the most.
>And it just isn't input lag. I'm aware that I suck.

Don't get discouraged, the more you play the better you will become.
I suggest you save replays of matches where you got destroyed so you can figure out your bad habits.

Maybe upload them on youtube or webm them if you have the option and post it here, we might be able to help figure out your flaws

You're welcome
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Post times you acted like the joker in smash
>Join Smash League
>Have absolutely no intention of playing matches
THE TO'S GONNA FREAK
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>>152885787
YOU DEVIL

Well done
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>>152885178
Thanks. I just X to jump. Apologies if I made that confusing.

One problem I have is learning what's safe on shield or not.

I've already been learning how to not roll as often unless I'm in deep shit.

I also have a lot of trouble air dodging online. Is it input lag? How many frames of lag are generally in an online match? Does it just vary?

Though I'm not good, I can't help but feel disadvantaged by the 3DS and the lag in online play.
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>>152886184
>One problem I have is learning what's safe on shield or not.
Spacing is extremely important, even more with low tier characters

Samus has the worst roll in game, you are better off not relying on it. Powershield and maybe spotdodge are better options.

>I also have a lot of trouble air dodging online.
Maybe you just get read too easy. That's why I suggested you upload a video if possible so we can be certain.

>I can't help but feel disadvantaged by the 3DS and the lag in online play.
Well keep in mind that the 3ds has no option of cable internet, you rely on wireless lan which adds lag by default, this is why most wii u players stick with the wii u version
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>>152886601
Is that true? Lag by default? So does playing online make any sense?

Sure, when I play online again I'll get the replay. Perhaps I'm air dodging too late. A few weeks ago I began noticing that I tended to DI towards the opponent, for some dumb reason. I don't now and just try to find the stage, but my opponent normally finds me when I'm trying to fast fall and air dodge out of the way. So maybe there are things I'm doing that I'm not aware that's getting me killed.
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>>152887079
>So does playing online make any sense?
Well it depends. Of course if there is too much input lag it makes little sense, if you're playing for fun you don't care for these things

And we all hate fun here
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We're actually over here. This thread was made first.
>>152874759
>>152874759
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>>152888937
>wrong previous thread
>wrong OP information

We're fine, get out chazo
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>>152885787
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>>152887821
Is 3DS just all around inferior to the Wii U version?
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>>152882001
No
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>>152889434
It doesn't have a competitive scene like the Wii U version and the controls are inferior
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>>152890247
>No proper smash run with player interaction
>No 3DS stages on WiiU
it hurts
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https://twitter.com/SHAQ/status/768130888315961344
>SHAQ will never tweet you
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>>152892331
>nairos face when
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>>152892331
>>152895386
>tfw you'll never be desperate enough to post every 36 minutes to keep a thread on life support
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>>152895386
Gay af
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>>152897701
This
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>>152895569
t. penta
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>>152899838
Doubt it's him
It's either moxy or chazo, like always
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Rate my mains
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>>152902470
Low + lowest of tiers

Are you a masochist?
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>>152882514
Anything that chazo doesnt like he labels as shitposting. Anyone he doesnt like (anyone who has ever criticised him or called him out on his bs) is a "troublemaker"
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>>152902470
you must hate fun
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Is it time to put down /ssbg/?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11080402
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>>152906724
Alright since we voted no that means its time. No more posts after this one.
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>>152907239
>implying chazo the manchild won't make new threads for his own benefits again
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>>152908202
Nah he doesnt do that. He utterly failed with those ones so now he makes "neutral" ones so that falafel and chronos arent stealing the spotlight from him
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real quick, i have a list of complaints for melee that are legitimate and make me not want to play the game in favor of smash 4 and PM
>game is super heavy; you have to hold the stick for a few frames to get a dash, lest you get a pivot, and there are random times where i swear i am doing things but they're just not happening because the game wants you to hold the button you press
>tap jump, ruins multiple things simply by pressing 3 degrees upward on the control stick
>dash dancing, ruined by tap jump
and if you say "oh just get used to it" you've already seen why i don't want to play this game
i have to humiliate myself by playing someone who is definitely used to it, and waste their time when they could be training themselves up, just so i can get used to how shitty this game controls.
inb4 copypasta, these legit scare me off from this game
i want to play it, it's just i can't get used to these things
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>chazos shitposterthread was deleted
Mods are doing a great job today, thanks.

Now when's the next smash tournament worth watching?
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>literally spam so many false reports that you get an entire thread deleted.
hmm...
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>>152911606
stay mad
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>>152911971
I dont get mad over this fun little dance we play, but its interesting to see how moderation works from time to time.
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>>152911606
Yeah, no
It was most likely samefagged by chazo anyway
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Someone should explain how a stage with a constant moving platform and said platform brings you closer to the blast zone is good stage design because it really isn't.
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>>152912593
It's risk/reward. You can defeat your enemies eaiser by attacking them there, but you're at risk of being KO'd easier yourself if you engage on those regions. Perfectly acceptable and tactical.
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>>152912742
Sounds busted as fuck but whatever
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>>152912862
Go play street fighter that stages dont do shit there.
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>>152912862
Maps imo don't need to be and generally shouldn't just be symmetrical blobs to remain balanced. The problem is a lot of Sm4sh maps have actively disruptive elements that add too much randomness to the strategy. Ridley and the Dark Lord, for example, and other random stage hazards are what should get a stage banned, not just things being non-static.
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>>152912742
better than the rising platforms that star KO you on some stages but not others
samurai was indecisive as fuck about whether or not those should kill
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>>152892331
Is this the real SHAQ?
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please someone come kill me /ssbg/, nobody has to know you can just drown me in a river or something and nobody will know
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hey chronos, ada here, i joined for some dubs and im a bit wated so sorry for team kills
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>>152913635
Nice edge kiddo
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>>152913635
Shut up chazo
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>>152913951
This isn't your blog.
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WARNINGWARNINGTHIS IS A DANK MEME ALERT. INCOMING DANK MEME HEADING STRAIGHT YOUR WAY. PLEASE TAKE ANY PRECAUTIONS NECESSARY TO PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THIS DANK MEME .BUCKLE UP THEM SEATBELTS,PUT THEM CELLPHONES ON SILENT AND LOOSEN THAT ANUS CUZ THIS MEME JUST CAME STRAIGHT OUT OF THE DANK FACTORY.
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Dubs anyone? Need 2.
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>>152913951
okay, the mii was a bad idea.gonna switch its ok you gonna solo them anyway
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>>152914820
You realize this doesnt actually make him look bad right?
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>>152914965
Why are your replies so generic all of the time? I swear I always read the same replies *chomp*
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>>152915085
I'm here to talk about Smash Bros, not entertain your stupid playground drama
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>>152915248
Try in the discord
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stop stirring up drama mk8g council of regulars
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>>152913951
No problem, enjoy your stay.
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>>152915437
haha its just rakky and pame

But anyway, lets talk about Smash Bros
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>>152915437
I'm just opening everyone's eyes and I'm not related to mk8g.
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>>152915619
Fucking Pay2win BULLSHIT
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Reminder, this is the fate you faggots chose. Sleep in your pile of shit.
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The hero of getting what he wants or running away when he can't do it
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>>152916075
haha wow, chazo is such a pussy bitch

But anyway, this has nothing to do with Smash Bros
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>>152915623

The Smash League channel had activity this morning desu
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>>152916217
I don't care, jipc. You already killed a decent thread.
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active 7 killed this thread....pathetic mk8g pathetic...
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>>152916502
>>152916336
>>152916075
>>152915910
>>152915623
>>152915085
>>152914820
Calm down, Chazo.
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>>152916750
shut up, fag
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autistic laggy german man getting btfo
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>talking with a known shitposter
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Lucina
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>>152917238
I wnat to fuck your pussy, yes yours not Lucina's
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What do you guys think of my controller
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>>152917349
you know he is a brown manlet, don't you?
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>>152917636
ow the edge
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>>152917349
>>152917842
OH MY FUCKING GOD DUDE I LITERALLY JUST POSTED LUCINA CAN YOU STAY ON TOPIC FOR TWO FUCKING POSTS HOLY SHIT GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY GENERAL
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>>152917842
Germany has brown people?
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>>152918148
>>152918173
Holy shit kek the ego
>MY general
Chronos really does think he owns this place doesn't he
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>>152918173
I thought it was penta being a faggot, it's just chronos fishing for attention. Sorry. Chronos might be a turk, so I can't be that wrong.
>tfw chronos screencaps himself
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>>152918173
>save file
>name it into something that already exists

Nice falseflagging
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>>152918672
No one does that when the picture had a generic 4chan number name
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>>152918672
Calm down Chronos
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Mods do your job, we literally cant stay on topic for two posts
kill it
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>>152915619
>still missed one
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>>152918843
They killed the one thread that was on topic and out of any trouble
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>>152918672
Actually I just saved the same image as Chronos I guess and now everyone thinks it was him
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Hi, would anyone like to dubs??
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mk8g even gets themselves deleted better than /ssbg/

is there anything /ssbg/ can do better than mk8g? lol
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>>152919012
Yeah! Host!
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>>152918971
t. Chronos
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>>152919153
Awesome! I'll host right now, we will need two more, do you want the stream as well?
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Is this the worst ending to a general ever? No style, no grace.
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R
B
L

we really out here!
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>>152919343
Stop, chazo. This was just mildly funny.
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Would be cool if mods banned that guy who throws a tantrum
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>>152919331
Hosting dubs! Please join, we need two more, let me know if you want the stream as well.
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It would be cool is the mods pulled the plug
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>>152919331
Stream always adds some fun, its up to you though
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>>152919807
>>152919331
I would watch it.
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Dont forget about the good /ssbg/ discord. The one without all the troublemakers. The one with actual moderation

https://discord.gg/ECGvXgS
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>That ending
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>>152919807
>>152920054
Oh, okay! We just need two more for dubs then.
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Good games, dubs! Thanks for joining, everyone.
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>>152920341
link the stream wtf...
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>>152920458
Join Falafel's room
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>>152920516
I'd love to but I need to go to bed.
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>>152920458
GGs.
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>>152920484
/Falafel_
Says its offline for me though
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>>152920341
I can join in like 20 minutes or so
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>ywn watch Apex 2015 live again
feels terribad mang
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>>152921276
Awesome just need one more now!
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>this lag


delete this
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>>152923171
Delete yourself
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>>152921917
>Full
Let me know if you guys neex another player
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i want his mac D
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>>152923816
Yes, please join!
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>>152924212
Why
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>>152924324
because he's cute, like all peach mains
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>>152924394
No
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>>152924212
>tfw 3 times as cute as this cuck
>but not good enough to camwhore in tourneys
soon
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>>152924276
Good games Jman! One more for dubs!
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geegee

too laggy
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>>152917238
Goddamn it.
Is nowhere safe from that rodent?
Not Umaru, Lucina.

>>152920341
The ids Luigifan001
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http://clashtournaments.com/MiiKnowledgebase.pdf
I'm not sure if this was posted on a previous general but It's an interesting read.
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>>152931532
>arbitrary rules on what "is" and "isnt" a custom character right on the 4th page
chibo is such a fucking faggot
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wee yu?
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>>152930897
they stopped playing a long time ago
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Alright /ssbg/, what is better, dubs or 1v1s?
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Hey, are the 3DS servers fucked up or what?
For the past week I've been getting communication errors when trying to connect online whether I try in the afternoon, evening, or after midnight.
I've reset my router and modem, then stood next to it while I reset and reestablished the connection setting on my DS, got through the connection test in seven seconds with 3 solid bars, and still end up waiting a minute on the Communicating with the server box while the logo freezes and finally gives up and lets go.

For all I know somehow the Wifi capabilities of my 3DS crapped out or some dumb ass reason or what. I return to the shoddy college internet in two days and I'll never get to smash online for months likely...

/blog

Just what the fuck
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>>152933727
dubs
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>>152932808
host
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>>152924536
you aren't me...
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>>152932808
HOST
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>>152934903

it's too late i'm watching best of the worst and eating an infinite number of nachos
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>>152935694
host
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So how is Sm4sh modding going anyway.
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>>152935694
cant believe you just ditched me like that...
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3ds dubs? We have 3/4 so far
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>>152905164
Whats not fun about playing as me Anon?
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>>152943827
Everything about it
You're a joke character
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>>152943827
Why don't you sleep Jpuff
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>>152945092
Why don't you sleep with him
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Hey chazo are you okay? If you need someone to talk to that won't call you a pedophile or a fuckup you know where to find me.
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>>152947147
This is not your personal blog
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>>152933864
>Games & More
>Options
>Internet Options
>Data from Friends: off
Should do the trick.
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https://twitter.com/PG_ESAM/status/769048465380892672

Thoughts? Is Esam right for once?
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>>152949817
Even when top players like Wobbles (Evo 2015 I think) or Hugs get a ridiculously low placing its never from r1 pools
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>>152913142
transforming stages are only shit because of what they transform into? oh okay
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>>152912742
Same goes for walkoff stages. And yet they are banned.

You should probably add that it's just a temporary danger zone.
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I remember when there wasn't any drama or "superior" people (see: faggots) in the general.
Holy shit it's gone downhill. I just wanted to have fun again, but this drama is more cancerous than /b/.
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>>152915619
where did you get that webm
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>>152937852
Pretty well. Already have a few moveset edits, lots of vertexes, music replacement, original stages, and slot-specific voice sets. It's moving 10x faster than brawl modding did.
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>>152958091
I hear that's because the game is built so similarly to Brawl most skills carry over.
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>>152958152
It's actually like it was built with modding in mind. File types are different, but much more accessible. On a side not, you don't even need to soft mod the actual system, there's a 0% chance to brick. Just a website and any kind of SD card.
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Where are my lucas buffs?
>reduce the sdi multiplier on nair and make it autocancel
>add more active frames on upair maybe increase hitbox size a tiny bit
>make his fair come out a few frames faster and reduce the landing lag a bit
>Give him his brawl dair back
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>>152959351
Not being programmed
You just need to git gud
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>>152959456
You never know. Im pretty proficient with the character he just needs a little push to be solo viable at a high level.
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>>152959682
Taiheita got 17th with him at Smash Con just the way he is.
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>>152959837
And?
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>>152957949
Blame the fucking idiots who cant stop adding fuel to the fire and stirring the pot, many people who were the "center" of the drama have already moved on even. But then you have random tards like the guy who sperged out (probably Pame) with discord screenshots yesterday.
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>>152880746
To everyone who plays both Melee and Sm4sh. What about both games do you like and dislike. What makes you prefer one game over the other if you do.
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>>152960286
Is that not viability at a high level?
I main Lucas as well. I just think just recently people've been figuring out how to play him, and that he doesn't play at all like Ness, something which you'd think is really obvious
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>>152960493
I guess. It's more me being selfish and wanting it not to be such an uphill battle against characters like diddy, sheik, and cloud. I do agree that lucas has been doing better recently.
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>>152947745

Holy shit dude, you did it.
Have a Miku
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>>152960369
Melee likes: Physics that lend itself towards faster gameplay, technical, freeform movement, lots of global movement options, lots of the advanced tech, the offstage game, leeway for many types of playstyle for most characters
Dislikes: Crouch cancelling, ledge get-up options still counting as hogging the ledge (eg, the second part of Marths getup where he is onstage but still in the animation so it counts as him occupying the ledge), poor balance (though this aspect is widely overexaggerated, its still not well balanced)

Smash 4 likes: Decently balanced, RAR, when you run and fall off the stage/platform you start running again when you land if youre still holding the stick, some characters have basically freeform combos like Mario, Luigi, and Sheik
Dislikes: Shield mechanics, airdodge mechanics, offstage game, recoveries, ledge mechanics, rage, knockback staling, most combos are fixed, weak DI, vectoring, rolls, input buffering, grab cooldown, 2-framing
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>>152961013
Bruh if you know the match up you can cuck a Sheik to hell and back
>>
>>152918889
>That filename
Don't trigger my inner autism anon
>>
>>152961507
what're you gonna do about it nerd?
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>>152961859
Cry
>>
>>152880746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tSg-jtqbYY
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>Charizard is not bottom tier
>Charizard is not low tier
What did he mean by this?
>>
Any Europe's want to play? A friend told me VG wasn't garbage at smash
>>
>>152966269
Yeah, sure, why not. Sent a request, wanna host?
>>
wtf is wrong with u ppls!!! bring penta back he can fix ssbg
>>
>>152966269
>A friend told me VG wasn't garbage at smash
Your friend lied
>>
>>152966546
Sorry, my house mates hijacked the console for mario kart. But I'll be about later.
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>>152966820
Stop trying to be funny, of course we have some good players!
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>>152967992
Alright, that's not a problem.
Anyone wanna do his Meme League set while we're at it?
>>
>>152968013
We do

But we had more better players in the past
>>
Winner of the Wii U Meme league: Chazo

Winner of the 3DS Meme league: Nagalfar
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Whos free for the Wii U league?
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Any important tournaments this weekend on stream?
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>>152973235
>league?
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>>152974632
?????
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>>152974632

>someone asks for Wii U league matches in the discord
>start typing
>type NWYN
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>>152973152
Is it over?
>>
3ds dubs?
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>>152975142
NWYN
>>
>>152978379

No
>>
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Alternate_costume_%28SSB4%29#Cloud

I spent way too much time reading through this

Now it's your turn, enjoy
>>
So is Smash dead or what? No updates or sequel news ever?
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>>152983739
yeah, just like how melee stopped receiving updates and its also dead!
I don't expect any sequel talk for quite a bit, it's more likely they'll expand on DLC for the NX as an incentive to buy that console if anything in my opinion.
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>>152984004
>they'll expand on DLC for the NX
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>>152986707
Everyone laughs now....
YOU'LL SEE
>>
Melee Netplay anyone? I'm in Pittsburgh area.
>>
>>152986760
Yes let's talk about the highly requested characters such as
K.Rool
Shantae
Shovel Knight
and Wolf

We will surely see them on NX
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>>152990878
That is some high refined sarcasm you have right there. I appreciate it.
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>>152992525
You're welcome.

Why is ssbg so dead today
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>>152995440
They're probably harassing me in teams with meme characters.
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>>152995440
I'm not saving it, sorry. I rest on Fridays.
>>
Dont forget about the good /ssbg/ discord. The one without all the troublemakers. The one with actual moderation

https://discord.gg/ECGvXgS
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>>152996274
Why should I bother with a discord?
>>
>>152996419
Theyre useful secondary sources to discuss the game and organize games on a reliable platform.
>>
>>152996274
>>152996419
It's chazos private discord, he keeps spamming this in every thread
real ssbg discord is in the op and you don't have to use it if you don't want to
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>>152996612
Nah, its one of the two main /ssbg/ discords. One had moderation, the other one "doesnt"
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>>152996584
I don't need a second platform. I'm not on 4chan because I want to be associated with an account.

>>152996612
That is not the point. Thanks for misunderstanding me.
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>>152996853
Then it doesnt concern you.
>>
>>152996790
Do you actually believe this? Ridiculous

chazos discord was never accepted and never will be because chazo himself is a well known shitter
>>
>>152997153
You opinion isnt important. People can decide for themselves.
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>>152997880
>You opinion isnt important.
>anons opinion isn't important

Yes that's why your threads get deleted, tournaments die and no one wants to stay in your shitcord
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Having trouble B reversing Samus's charged shot.
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>>153000847
Training Modus (?)
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>>153000847
It's one of the moves that can't be B-reversed.
Sucks, but Samus' up B is her only move that can be B-reversed.
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>>153000847
tap back, return to neutral, hit b
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> At some point someone will pick a character he/she is completely unfamiliar with and will fuck up everything up
Thanks Obama, Trump and Hillary.
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>>153001726
Must take a shit ton of practice to get accurately without shooting tracking missiles instead.
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Anyone wanna 1v1 or dubs?
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>>153004050
Dubs.
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>>153001390
Really, not even bombs?
>>
>>153005371
samus is shit
>>
Nobody wants to play doubles? Really? ( Wii U )
>>
> Teaming up in FFA
Is this still a thing?
>>
Whats with people nodding their heads after a punish at locals?
>>
>>153002698
if your stick is actually neutral it wont ever shoot missiles
youll see good sheik/dk/mewtwo/lucario players using the same technique to reverse their aerial orientation by canceling their b-reversed charge move
unfortunately samus cant charge in midair so she can only do the shot but its better than nothing
>>
>>153005371
Try it.
I think it would've been useful, but I guess the devs thought otherwise.
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>>153008202
If you hurt Jigglypuff by crashing the taunt party then yes.
>>
Anyone have that webm of that guy punching himself in the head over losing a friendly? What's his name again?
>>
>moxy is afraid to play me
Why do people do this
>>
>>153011698

You're free
>>
>>153011698
What?
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Is there anything he can't do?
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>>153016513
Be a productive member of society
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>>153011698
For the league?
>>
>>153018680
yes
>>
>>153019514
Then just take the points, thats basically forfeiting
>>
>>153019560
I think I will
>>
Sm4sh: Why the actual fuck, when the game lags, Samus's roll becomes nigh unpunishable?
Roll, side tilt, roll, side tilt. Why?
>>
>I wanted to put Charizard into high tier, but he had no results
t. Zero
CHARIZARD MAINS BTFO
EJECTED RIGHT OUT OF THE RESPECTABLE MAINS CLUB
HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER
NERF FLARE BLITZ
>>
>>153024314
charizards gonna be the next mewtwo and im gonna be fucking mad
some nobody is gonna come out of nowhere and place like third with a charizard in something important and suddenly hes gonna be getting placings in b or a tier on everyones tier lists and itll be so stupid
>>
>>153025516
Anti's practicing Charizard as a Mario counter
He's gonna beat ally and move Charizard to top 15 in the public eye
Screencap this
>>
If someone wanted to git gud at sm4sh, what are the most important techniques to learn to do?
>>
3ds?
>>
>>153024314
who are you quoting?

or at least what tier list is this from?
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Knuckles when
Not that shitty Mii alt either
>>
>>152908912

Don't know what to tell you m8

You just need to get used to it

Melee is more rewarding, you can really press your advantage and punish your opponent with

If it makes you feel better, smash 4 has a bigger scene so you're not really missing out on anything by choosing smash 4
>>
>>153000756
post kirby's
>>
>>153024026

Smash 4 rolls are too safe in general with the slight lag from hd tvs
>>
>>153016513
Beat an Ice Climbers.
>>
>>153034332
The reason why Smash 4 is completely played in the air is because rolls dominate the ground. Top players realize rolls are way to dangerous to mess with so they constantly use short hop aerials to avoid the ground all together. The only thing the ground is used for in Smash 4 is to spam dash grabs.
>>
>>153034974
I see the pros dash back and forth and power shield all the time.
>>
>>153034332
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B17C5KO/?tag=dislag-20
only 9ms of input lag according to displaylag, stop being a poorfag
>>
so this is the power of ssbg..
>>
Does anyone have that Brawl Mario "I love War" parody?
>>
>>153035826
Seconding
>>
>>153011698
You know moxy only entered so people would join his shitcord to find him right
He doesn't really play the game
>>
When the same attack deals varied damage on the same frame and hitbox, is that a randomization factor or is the damage just a fractional number that gets rounded to whole when shown?
>>
Where did all the tournament Bayonetta players go? I didn't think the nerf would be hard enough to go from top to bottom tier.
>>
>>153041172
JK literally won a weekly socal this wednesday with amazing players there
>>
>>153024026
I've never been more frustrated. This Samus just kept rolling behind me, and just rolling on general, and I literally could never punish it because they would immediately side tilt out of shield. Sometimes I could do nothing but power shield because they were an aggressive player that was completely unaware of the grab button and would use raw Up B's that rarely worked if the game didn't give me my air dodge, again, because of the input lag. I know I'm not very great at this game. But I was insulted by being beat by this Samus that didn't know what they were doing at all, and was always clean off roll.
Maybe I should just stop playing if I'm going to complain like this.
>>
Nah there's nothing wrong with a little vent. Talking out your problems is a great way to solve them. Just keep playing better players. You will naturally learn how to beat out shitters like that.
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>>153044351
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Who here has made friends from going to tournaments?
>>
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>>153047030
>>
>>153041172
Hopefully straight to hell.
>>
Little Mac is a fucking meme character and the low level shit Little Macs who don't know it are the worst cancer in Sm4sh. Nobody cares when you hit someone with your KO Punch, a random zoom-in does not make something "hype".
If you wanna play this meme character,
1. Don't complain about your recovery
2. Don't complain about your match ups.
3. Don't pretend you are losing because you play a meme character. You are losing because you are a piece of shit human being.

I hope your children are born handicapped.
>>
>>153053787
Mac mains are usually obnoxious cancerous faggots
>>
>>153027186
roll behind grab

even if extremely predictable For Glory's lag will protect you
>>
>>153055924
Okay
>>
>>153027186
Learn shorthop attack
pivot grab/tilt/smash
maybe jablock combos
ledgetrump
>>
>>153064771
i'm not gay but i'd sniff his butt
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>>153065201
>>
3ds Meme league?
>>
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>>152885787
>Challenge someone to a league match
>Play the first round
>Tell them I'll be right back, just need a smoke break
>Don't come back
SOMEONE'S GOTTA STOP ME
>>
>opponent chooses a stage
>they want duck hunt
>I pick the omega for of it
D A M A G E D
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Is this m2k?
>>
>>153069145
That's /ssbg/'s budget m2k.
>>
Anyone watching Shine right now?
>>
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>>153073164
I am
I don't like watching dubs for either game though
>>
>>153073778
But m2k said dubs is the true way to play Smash.
>>
>freesam getting carried by zero
lol
>>
>>153078467
>Esam
Just hearing his name pisses me off
>>
Will there ever be a 1.1.7?
>>
>>153078785
Fuck off Hyuga
>>
>>153079102
Yes
>>
>>153073164
me
>>
>>153078785
More like Esham
>>
Why are Tk Breezy and EE so annoying

Holy shit
>>
>>153088501
I think they're entertaining
>>
>>152908912
There's no input buffering in Melee. I didn't know that, and before I knew that, it felt like I was playing with a tank. You gotta input as soon as you're out of recovery.
You'll get used to it.
>>
>>153078467
>not even zero could carry esam to victory
>>
>Nagalfar with the 9-0 record

YAMERO!
>>
>>153094278
3ds is free
>>
>>153094278
3ds fags exposed?
>>
>>153079102
Hell no.
>>
any good guides for bayonetta out there? everything I have found on youtube is just outdated with the patch
>>
>>153099579
Just watch recent pink fresh, JK, Saj gameplay if you can, watch how they play the neutral game, combo, try to bait dodges to extend combos, retreat to safety, confirm into kills, etc
>>
Anyone want to answer a stupid question? I am wondering what the effects are of "removing the springs" in the shoulder buttons of a GC controller. What sort of benefits and drawbacks does that bring? Have you done it? I have one of the white japanese controllers that everyone and their mother bought 3-4 years ago, and one smash branded one since the japanese ones are out of production. As well as 4 original purple/black controllers that are basically all shit.
>>
>>153099579
Join the discord
>>
Mario is coming at me from above with Dair. How do I punish it? If I block it, he's safe and no attack I use seems to beat it.
>>
>The City of Bloodcross
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>tfw striving for harmony between the Discords
>>
>You will never be a nigger
>>
>>153070871
Who?
>>
>leffen crying like a bitch on twitter about hbox's coaching when it's perfectly allowed
FUCK euros
>>
Do you faggots unironically literally watch Smash4?
>>
>>153110867
yes
>>
>>153110867
ye, that's what the circlejerk is for
>>
>>153103101
so I can be ignored by all the circle jerking faggots just like every time I try to ask for games or advice on the discord? fuck off
>>
BAN TOWN AND CITY
>>
>>153111945
I meant the Bayonetta discord, holy shit calm down.
>>
>static manny, heero, all might, spark
why can't he just stay on one tag? not like anyone is gonna stop calling him static manny, tag stuff 101
>>
>>153119010
>thought you were gonna shit on a particular game
>shitting on fgg

you may continue
>>
>16k on melee
>10k on sm4sh

fgc getting btfo by a party game
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1v1s or dubs anybody
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shine went well

great fun, if anyone's there ill be happy to play some friendlies tomorrow (preferably melee but ill do some smash 4 too)
>>
Are there any of "our guys" at shine?
>>
>>153119897
There's some of MY guys, they did pretty well
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>>153119897
>>153120057
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>>153053787
Little Mac has some of the most technical ground movement in Smash 4 based on perfect pivots, and dash based movement.

He also requires amazing knowledge on spacing, stage control and exploiting bad habits. So technicality will get you no where if you don't know the fundamentals.

Don't hate him just because hes not a generic d-throw to u-air character. Or because shitters mis use him and then get a lucky KO punch to clutch out.
>>
games? either system
>>
>>153120584
Well, he is made for final destination after all.
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