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Just fuck my atlas up edition

last map: >>152702904

>Atlas of Worlds information
https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds

>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.reddit.com

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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I wanna suck zizarans dick
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>>152747109
>free
>>152748202
>free
>>152786723
>free
>>152800157
>Free
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>tfw Blizzard finally killed PoE by releasing Legion
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my build > your build
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chris "my game is a piece of shit. fuck you, buy tabs" wilson
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so when will GGG take responsability for the mess that atlas looks like it'll be?
I mean, new players will fuck their atlas up by completing bad layouts and it will make their map drops worse, and it's irreversible.
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>>152808478
After the league is over when they write a developer manifesto on why it was shit.
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>>152808478
>I mean, new players will fuck their atlas up by completing bad layouts and it will make their map drops worse, and it's irreversible.
Explain this to me.
How is this ANY different than the current system? At least here you have an option to get a map you want by not being a moron.
Seriously, answer me.
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Sextant was not what I think it meant.
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I want paws to pat my head and tell me my build's shit while I shove her cock down my throat
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>>152808478
that's probably not how the drop system works
it probably bricks drops that aren't in your pool until you complete that map instead of lowering the odds of all other maps dropping to make space on the table for what you just completed.
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>>152808891
it's not, but the atlas makes it so you can have it better
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To anyone considering playing Path of Exile:

>>>>>>>> DON'T <<<<<<<<

Here's why:

1. We're closed to newfags
2. We're extremely xenophobic
3. We are an homogeneous elite HC society.
4. We hate all of your degeneracy: animeposting, catposting, redditposting, etc.
5. You'll never be able to integrate into a society of elite HC players when you're a redditor or a forumbabby
6. Your race (redditors and forumbabbies) has lower IQ than ours.
7. You don't know our board culture and memes, and will be seen as barbarians for that.
8. We are extremely skilled players and you won't be able to compete or cooperate with us.
9. All our game knowledge and technology is for our people and our people only.
10. We don't want to ruin ourselves with your degenerate ways.


Thank you for your time. Have a good day.
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>>152808993
I want paws to peg me while calling me an elitist fucking bastard
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Any of this worth shit?
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>>152809186
Better reason why you SHOULD play POE.
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>>152809296
I want paws to feed rainybabe cum while I fuck her in the ass
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>>152809362
just vendor that garbage
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>>152809296
Wow same do I know you?
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>>152809362
7.5 dollars
5 dollars
1-2 cents
1-2 cents
50 cents on a good day
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>>152809575
I was hoping about 3,50 for that ring :(
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>have a literal 4.5ghz quad core CPU
>still get <10fps with ground effects with multithreading

JUST
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works fine on my lappy
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>>152809819
its extremely unlikey youd get anything at all for it. they aint hot rmt items
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No more dynamic meta shift.
No more changes to the passive skill tree.
No balancing of the ascendancies.
No addressing power creep.
No trade overhaul.
No new content that doesn't require extra stash tabs.
No acts after act 4.
No reason not to use BiS uniques at all times.
No ending of the clearspeed meta.
No way to get rid of catposter, animeposter, or femalecelebritiesposter from my general.
No reason to get hype anymore.
No reason to play vidya anymore.
No reason to wake up anymore.
No reason to exist anymore.
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Have you guys thanked ProjectPT for saving PoE before GGG ruined it yet?
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4-6: g/965110/595c51ce16/
7-9: g/967878/af22caff88/
0: poeg pick
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>>152809903
i seriously doubt you have the brain capacity to manage a stable 4.5ghz oc on that 6600
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>>152810235
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>>152810354
asus uefi does it automatically. all i had to do was click a few buttons.

>current year
>manually unlocking
>manually setting frequency and multiplier
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dumb
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>>152810639
then you are almost assuredly overvolting it and reducing its lifespan
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>>152810764
that's what /g/ would say
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>Discharge can no longer be triggered.
>mjolner back to 50% trigger chance.
there I fixed coc.
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>>152810885
Fuckoff I wanna play coc ele shieldcharge like 10 times.
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>>152810885
>coc ek bf pathfinder isnt broken
retard
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>>152811423
>CoC internal cooldown increased to 500ms
>CoC now has a 100% chance to trigger
>gets some increased critical strike cahnce per level
there I fixed CoC.
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>>152809186
lol i'm here posting every day and i'm a softcore shitter for life
/poeg/ isn't yours because you can't do anything to make leave you sociopathic FUCK
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>>152812172
Get the fuck out you subhuman piece of fucking softcore trash
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When are they releasing skill patch notes?
I wanna start doing my build, reeee
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>>152812172
fucking play mancore or hang yourself
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>>152812203
hey look i'm still here lol
>>152812257
>I'm HARDCORE because I LOVE RUNNING NORMAL/CRUEL/MERCILESS
ebin memes bro
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>>152812240
but new skills won't even be released at the same time as aow, you'd have to wait a week or two, they delayed them
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>>152812370
I never die im a god every char reaches 100 bow down shitcrow
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>>152812172
>lol i'm here posting every day and i'm a softcore shitter for life
same here senpai /brofist
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so let's predict the first week/month of atlas of worlds

>server issues
>weird instance crash preventing people to progress
>all essences are trash but 2 and you have to buy them because they don't drop
>some boss will have a bullshit instakill move that GGG will tone down after the first 48hrs
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>>152812605
literally laughed my guts out
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>say "WTB divines" in trade three times
>get muted for 15 minutes
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>>152809385
why is our guy so kawai?
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>>152813697
Our guy is zizaran or maybe paws
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>>152813769
but by "our guy" I obviously mean the one and only ProjectPT
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>Pheonix is next to Core
JUST
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>>152813363
tone down your caps lock nerd
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>>152814343
i'd rather not

i'll just go play something else. now there's three people playing instead of four
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D
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D
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E
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X
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The entirety of this general has been filled with complaining and banter back and forth from the player base about a patch that hasn't even come out yet. I just wanted to say, don't let it discourage you. I think the atlas and the huge amount of work GGG have done for this patch looks incredible and I cant wait to play it. And while you might not ever say it directly, maybe the reason people are being so overly critical is because they truly love the amazing game GGG have created. That is all.
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>>152816750
Yes, we are critical because we want the game to be better and not mediocre.
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>>152816750
i remember chris saying something along the lines of "we have mind blowing changes to end game mapping coming soon" before the atlas announcement

i'm not seeing any "mind blowing changes." it's all very disappointing.
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>>152816750
fuck off crossposter
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>>152816871
Remember when the game was harder and shitters like zizaran and raizqt were incapable of reaching level 100?
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>>152817104
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Bring reflect back.
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>>152817818
Vinktars would still outleech the reflect aura
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>>152817886
you can't leech through one shotting you'reself
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>>152817886
remove vinktars
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>>152817947
thats the main offender enabling massive damage crit builds on HC and the strongest item in PoE by far.
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>>152816750
nys osaifh
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29464052

TRUE cute girls playing poe
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>>152818443
>blue girl where the life is
>red girl where the mana is
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>>152818443
Not just watching paws... She even has a cute little cock that I really want to suck.
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>>152816980
I honestly think all the map stuff looks neat.

progression that isn't just 'grind what gives the best xp and farm enough currency to buy the items you need'

stronger ways to influence the areas you can farm

easier to stick to maps that are good to run instead of going to shit maps because that's all you have
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>my templar build would use ES gear
Uhhh wouldn't templar look retarded decked out in girly es gear?
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anyone have any thoughts on this autistic "you can RUIN your atlas PERMANENTLY" shit? are any of you this obsessed with efficiency?
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>>152819043
Yes I am a very autistic player
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>>152818770
>look
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>There are people who cannot beat lab without help and complain about it
Once again, the official forums for a video game have lowered the bar.
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>>152818770
does this look retarded to you?
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>>152819260
woah cool
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>>152819234
There are tons of people constantly whining about "game too ez" while purchasing all 4 lab carries, buying rushes, playing with multiple guardian bitchboys and only running blue gorges and taking free gear handouts. Wait I literally just described paws.
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>>152819043
Everyone who makes it to that point in the game is pretty obsessed with efficiency.

However, it's probably a nonissue, see:
>>152809045
>>152805839
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where is this tree ingame????????
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>>152819752
you have to donate 100 shekels to [email protected]
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kripp, the most autistic person alive who will play a card game with a fraction of a tenth of the percent of variety as PoE for 10+ hours every day, quit PoE years ago.

It's over, guys. It ended long ago. What are you doing here still? This isn't the game. It's only mediocre. In fact everyone who started playing it quit. The devs just don't understand what the game needs to keep people hooked. Maps don't remain engrossing for very long. The game lacks an enticing next level. It's just more meaningless grind.

Expansions are just fixing a major problem that should have never existed, more features for casuals and a few new tilesets. That's it.

Find something better to do with your time. Go get in shape, go to school, learn something that will enrich your life, get a girlfriend, get a better job, go help other people, study god, do something.

We're done here.
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>GGG panders to autistic HC players
>player numbers over 100k

>GGG panders to pathetic shitcrow redditard casuals
>player numbers below 20k
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>>152819752
scion's ascendancy class
scion is unlocked during your first normal playthrough
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>>152813048
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>>152820246
>you can upgrade the low-risk maps and spam low-risk modifiers until the end of time
>this doesn't cater to hardcore fearmongers who are terrified of having even a 1% chance of failure.
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>>152820246
The harder/more complex it is, the less people play it. Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
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>>152820367
who's making these

they're awful and you should stop
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>>152820409
>Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.

i'm stating facts, retard
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>>152820167
But Etup's stream is just as comfy as kripp's stream was.
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>>152820621
You mean ziz's stream right?
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>>152820550
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>>152820789
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>>152820565
No, you're making statements and not giving examples. Stop being so vague and learn how to make your point across to people properly.
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>>152820789
Alkaizer is the comfiest, until he has one lag spike and plays the rest of the league off stream
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>>152820894
fuck off retard

never reply to me again
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>>152820986
ProjectPT is probably the best im enjoying it lately hes been sucking my dick nice every stream.
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So if I have Hrimburn and crit with an ice spell, does it burn, freeze, and chill all at once?
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>>152820367
keepea hahahahha im so fucking high hahahahhaaah
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i see two possible outcomes with atlas

either

1) the guardian bosses will be too easy, everyone will be disappointed and be bored within a week

2) the guardians will be extremely hard, everyone will whine but be pleased with the content
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>one of th eoptions is people being happy
lmao
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>>152821119
this
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>>152822379
Tempchains will make the 2 fights we were shown a complete joke like if you ever get hit you are terrible.
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>>152808478
The vast majority of players likely won't make it to maps. In the past, when data on where players stopped playing was released, very few even made it past act 3 of normal.

That said, there's no way GGG won't throw in something allowing you do respec your atlas shit. Might come with a cost, but I doubt it would be more than a stack of regret orbs.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714341 wilson in fucking damage control mode
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>>152823183
why should GGG care about the people who never reach maps? they clearly don't care about the game
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>>152819260
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>>152823287
>hello everyone i love atlas and this post makes me happy
>yeah babyyyyy
>Bravo! So hyped for AoW!!!!
>Interesting. =)
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great post
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>>152823742
This post makes me happy
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>>152823513
They get the most money from those players. They hop on, impulse buy something, and leave shortly after. When you have twenty thousand people doing that it adds up quick.
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>>152823136
inb4 innate 50% curse effectivity on the bosses
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>>152824031
ah yes, the venerable grinding gear games, pandering to the lowest common denominator to make more money, while sacrificing their integrity
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So I loaded this Paws stream and is she always this angry and cuntish?
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>>152824376
Totally, that's why the game's so easy, uncomplicated, and can be picked up by even the freshest casual.

Fuck off, I'm sick of your shit.
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>>152823287
hahahahhaahaha just le post it on reddit and it gets changed. godammit, how GGG has fallen.
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>>152824483
but the game is easy

you keep attempting to argue facts

embarrassing desu
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I don't really wanna play on std and ill just hiatus till Essence. I currently have 139c, what are some good items to have cuz whatever?
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>>152824641
>keep
lol, 2 ez to call out samefag.
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>>152823682
they don't even seem like real people

their profiles are full of cocksucking fanboyism
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>>152824772
140C is like a piss-stained penny you find on the street in std
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how does cwdt works when you have the same skill in different parts of the gear

Like


You have cwdt fireball in the helm and cwdt of different level fireball in the boots?
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How likely is it to get banned if you use an autoscript to press flasks with 1 button BUT you let it have a 100ms delay between each other so it isn't simultaneous?
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>>152825484
Uh 0% chance blasting cap streams with a flask macro
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>http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cast_when_Damage_Taken_Support

Reading must be pretty hard, huh.
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>>152825484
100ms is too little

use 200 at least
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>>152826817
kys
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>>152827023
ty now I can truly play pathfinder
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>>152827238
if you use ahk, you can use a rng function to generate a random ms value each keypress between 180 and 220 for extra safety
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Got a problem, senpai?
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first of all i'm not your "senpai," whatever that means

second of all the only problem i have is with shitcrows
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>>152829256
What if I have 16 level 100 shitcrow characters and my name is bakedchicken?
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>>152829358
pure trash

i was watching him level yesterday and he died three times before merciless

trash
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>>152829434
zizaran is the HC bakedchicken check his stream out desu senpai
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ziz is the worst player ever to be considered good
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>>152829608
I thought that was ProjectPT?
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pt is not considered good
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>>152829765
Ziz isn't either everyone who claims he is good is being ironic desu I say this as an elite HC player.
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but pt is still better than ANY shitcrow, simply because he plays alphacore
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>>152829824
not even PT's viewer's think he's good

ziz's viewers see him hit 95+ and think he's a poe god

>I say this as an elite HC player

desu? lol
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>>152830804
No one except some irrelevant shitkid casuals think ziz is good is my point. No one good at PoE views ziz as anything other than a joke.
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>>152830937
the general consensus within the poe community is that ziz is good

whether this opinion is correct is irrelevant
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>>152831002
wow the community is more retarded than I thought
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Any good AoE skills for melee lowbie leveling? Besides Sunder, getting tired of it. Is Infernal Blow + Melee Splash good?
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>>152831002
the poe community is 98% shitcrows and 1.5% HC posers

their opinions don't mean shit
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I'm gay for paws' cock
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>>152831329
Dude its mine back off
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>>152831636
>that weeb music
gf material
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>>152831880
wait nvm I don't use twitch that much
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>>152831880
The way she plays vaalspark always triggered me though unwatchable shame just terrible at it.
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>>152831117
Cleave? Lacerate? Double strike? Cucklone? What shitty weap r you using?
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>>152831117
Sunder is 10 times more fun than infernal blow
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i wonder how shitcrows feel when paws, a literal girl, is better than them at poe

and also there was that quadriplegic streamer who made it to level 85 in HC playing with nothing but his face and mouth
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>>152832807
Paws is quite terrible (I say this as the person who literally taught her PoE) she basically just leeches off and is hard carried by Jeebie in gear, maps, builds etc..
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>>152832807
>and also there was that quadriplegic streamer who made it to level 85 in HC playing with nothing but his face and mouth
wat
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>>152832987
i forgot his name. he played league of legends too and made it to platinum if i remember right
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>>152833074
nohandsken
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>>152831117
IB used to be top tier leveling with face breakers. Now it's just shit. Use sunder until you can swap out to earthquake, buy yourself some twink gear, and ride the wave to 100.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFAaYzmmy-Q

fucking learn something shitcrows
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>>152833458
A guy playing with his mouth is better than shitcrows holy shit
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>>152833458
Poe is so easy you can beat it without using your hands

GGG will defend this
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>hardcucks think theyr'e special for getting to level 80 on a fotm meme build and dying

we all know you shitposters can't get past 90, just give up
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Do you think Bex_GGG is good in bed?
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>>152834597
6 out of the top 10 players were from poeg in a 1 month flashback race a few years ago
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>>152834597
Level 90 is shit tier thats not even 10 hours of gameplay if you aren't going for 100 just get the fuck out shitcrow.
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>>152834752
Name them and prove it
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>>152834743
you mean catposter?
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>>152834862
me esk deth smokey garmi peuri

faggot
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>>152834752
>a few years ago

LOL irrelevant
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>>152834937
Whose me and don't even say hans
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>>152835009
hanz didn't compete that race
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>>152834921
what do you mean by that
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Fuck off.
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>>152835132
you on the right, lashing out at a world that thinks you're a joke

hardcucks btfo
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Is this the HC player modus operandi?
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>It's true that not completing some maps will be the optimal choice
>the atlas is also league-wide so having a character who has a weakness to the mobs in one map means either they suffer or your whole account suffers
epic
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>>152835350
fuck OFF projectpeepee
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>>152835408
Is this the best insult reddit can come up with
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>>152835350
we added some content, skip most of it btw ;)
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>people unironically defend Atlas of Excrement
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>>152835480
it's a good one i think
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>>152836098
fuck off
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>>152836098
>animeshitter

fuck off
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>>152836290
idk why you bother, we just feel sorry for you
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>>152836290
You will be banned soon. Good luck on your days off.
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>more (You)s
thank you
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kinda feel bad for poefags now that most of us are migrating to LostArk next year
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>>152836673
You could have chosen any game, but you chose that heap of shit
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here's you $0.05
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So guys... is life meaningless or is there a reason for existence?
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>>152836770
I don't blame him, poe just gets shittier with every """""""expansion""""""
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the meaning of life can be found in how many demis you own
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>>152837074
retard
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>still no trade announcement
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>>152837812
YEA BUT THANK FUCK I CAN FUCKING UNSPEC MY FUCKING MAP
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Diablo 2
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No matter how much you complain about AoW you will play it like the cucks you are.
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i won't know how i'll feel until they release essence league info, challenge info, mtx info, patch notes, and whatever cash grab gimmick they have planned

until then everything is pure speculation, but the atlas looks like a way for casuals to reach end game maps easier, and for poopsockers to level and get rich even faster
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>>152839070
Casuals won't be reaching maps, don't be so over dramatic.
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Mjolner Discharge > CI CoC Discharge

Proof me wrong. You can't
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>>152839206
nys
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>>152834921
You made me create a lebbit account
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>>152839257
Mjolner is infinitely slower id rather risk it in HC and be able to do sub 100 hour /played level 100s with CoC than play a jugg mjolner build ever.
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>>152839469
Don't you feel dirty now?
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>>152839469
forgot
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>>152839604
I could have just told you that. She does the media/community work and it has nothing to do with 4chan. lol

Catposter isn't GGG staff, they don't know enough of our internal workings.
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>>152839509
Don't do red maps then and just do gorge and plateau. Or enjoy dying to volatile and your 1 way ticket to standard.
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so now that catshitter doxed herself, who is gonna expose it on the forums?
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>>152840247
Nice try catposter
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Bex, please let it be known you're one of us
we know you're there
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>>152841610
>>152841479
Really makes you think
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>>152820894
He's right though, there were 100k at one point, and shit was brutal
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>>152842662
iirc the amount of people playing at the start of each league is increasing, not decreasing?
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>>152842976
I really don't think so m8, shit peaked when they fixed desync but it's trickling down again I think. Sucks cause I've liked every league except prophecy
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>>152842976
it's the lowest it's ever been
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>>152843323
start of each league != now
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Fun Bow
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>>152843581
Bow literally 3k less ES, worse aoe, and lower damage than a 5c ele wand inquis CI
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>>152842976
Yes. Leagues with expansions obviously do better as well.

That growth hasn't translated into more players a month or so into each league however. If anything there's recession in that dedicated playerbase.
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>>152843394
numbers are dropping faster after each league/expansion

it's probably because performance and trade issues are making the game insufferable
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>>152845676
>it's probably because performance and trade issues are making the game insufferable
I'd put it more on people 'finishing' the league faster
Game has gotten easier with each subsequent expansion
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>>152839509
Why would you risk 40-50ex worth of gear? Unless your sole goal is getting to 100 and only do Gorge/Plateau/Arid Lake. This is of course speaking HC, SC its just whatever.
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>>152847038
I only do reds to 100 on my HC 100s with the exception being gorge arid plat chain at 99
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>>152847156
That comes also with a risk? If you get hit by a nasty volatile you'll get one shot as CI. Your only elemental mitigation is resists.
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if you go to bed with shoes and day clothes on, you save like 20 minutes when you wake up
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What's the DPS like of an RT EQ build for hc without voidheart?
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>>152847598
>Implying I don't already do that minus the shoes.
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>>152847598
>>152847774
Sleeping with clothes on makes you sleep worse.
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>>152847324
I only do 2 volatile mods max on my maps without VMS which id run anything because it was reflect immune. Generally reflect volatile is the only thing that will kill coc im not retarded like bakedchicken and I only pop bonestalkers with vaaldisc up.
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>>152847598
save for what
>>
We play video games in an era of secrecy and plausible deniability that designers hide behind when problems arise. Every year there's at least one major release or expansion for a large game that is riddled with bugs or has other massive issues. Developers rarely comment on the issues and when they do they dodge the real questions (See No Mans Sky).
On the other hand some members of the community found a potential problem with a future update that will not even affect you unless you chain high tier maps and hard farm to push the ladder. We get a development manifesto from the lead developer a few days later explaining that the developers are aware of the issue, they agree it could be problematic, and have decided on a course of action to correct it. Holy shit. If this were any other game we'd hear nothing from an official channel/forum, the problematic feature would exist on release, and we'd be lucky to get an "I'll look into it" on twitter from a single dev.
Thanks Chris, Bex, and all of the members of GGG for the consistent communication with us. It really makes a massive difference to me when I trust that the devs will listen to the community when there's real issues.
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based reddit crossposter
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>>152847679
It's good, but I don't have tooltip numbers. The Warchief Totem in 2.3 was a bonus that EQ frankly didn't even need. You can quickly clear anything up to and including T15s with minimal investment. Most of the fight time vs. Uber Izaro is just waiting for animations to finish or for effects to active on Izaro for keys.

The only time I felt that my damage was low was vs. twinned Kaoms with extra life, since they'd kill the totem instantly.
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>>152848883
what do have to say about the long-awaited trade improvements being gated behind a paywall?

or the performance improvements that seem to be nothing more than a placebo?

what do you have to say about that then?
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>tfw she breathes heavily after boss fights
I want to blow a huge load deep inside her rectum
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bakedchicken is playing a weeb visual novel on stream...

he truly lost it...
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>>152850343
I know its awesome
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Is Snakepit gonna work with traps linked to spells?
Im thinking Ice Spear crit trapper.
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>>152851149
tell me how ice spear crit trapper works senpai
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first of all snakepit isn't even good

just go deadeye ascendant
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>>152848883
>It really makes a massive difference to me when I trust that the devs will listen to the community when there's real issues.

The only reason they listen to anything at all(not much that's important) is because they are so bad a group of developers that publishers will not work with them at all.
They just can't afford to ostracize and ignore absolutely everyone in this game, just most people.. and they only work on more jew shit anyway.. see currency tabs and mtx.

Get fucked you jew-enabler
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>>152851874
I WILL MAKE SPARK WORK
THE WORLD WILL BE SPARKS
AND MY CLEARSPEED AVERAGE
YOU CAN'T FUCKING STOP ME, SHITTER
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>>152852895
>wasting a ring slot to add 1 projectile to a skill that shoots 7 projectiles by default
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>>152853801
I don't think you understand
I NEED more projectiles
It isn't optional
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>>152849716
But that's gross, Anon.
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retard
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>>152854932
It's pure. I wouldn't be taking her virginity.
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>>152854984
>I wouldn't be taking her virginity.
That's the gross part, fag.
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>>152855090
but then she would bleed all over my dick
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>>152855140
I'm not seeing the problem.
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>>152854984
>Sion
>Virginity
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So, I found a six-slot bow that I turned Rare with an orb of chance. Now it has Socketed Bow Gems +1 and 7% increased attack speed.

How high are my chances to get that number higher with a blessed orb? Is it retarded even thinking about putting a blessed orb on that? It is pretty tempting.
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>>152857131
blessed orbs reroll only implicit modifiers, like the 30-50% crit chance on death/decimation/harbinger bow
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threadly reminder
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>>152857356
Oh, bummer. Well, it's for a friend anyway, he should be okay with it the way it is I think.

Damn shame 6-linking is so expensive.
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>>152857448
mfw it's true
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>>152847598
i don't go outside why do i need shoes
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all that ggg so gud circlejerk at poe reddit is slowly giving me cancer
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>>152858432
why do you click anything but news on the poe subreddit

fucking RETARD
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>Going to leddit at all
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>>152858559
i hide them but still you see the title of the posts before that, you fckin faggot
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poeg is SACRED and MUST be preserved

NO shitcrows allowed
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>>152857448
I hope that was posted prior to information about how map drops work, since it's wrong. Firstly, Waterways and Gorge are the same tier.

You run all tier 1-7 maps for the bonus quantity, then fill tier 8-16 with only 1-2 maps each. Sometimes the best map for a tier will require a shaper, in which case you'll need to run a shitty map of that tier, get the shaper, use the shaper, and then unclear the shitty map using that new item.

It does essentially eliminate shitty maps from the game though. Hide disgusting adjacent maps in your loot filter.
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is this the world record for level 70 ssfhc?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWb5P476ES4

6hr 37 mins
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>>152809186
>>152812203
>>152812257
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>>152857448

no one will sell any gorges you fucking retard

fucking SSF shitcore players
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>>152857448
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>>152860235
git gud fgt
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>In some cases, additional monsters have been added (hence increasing item drops including maps) to mitigate the additional time or challenge that certain maps entail.
enjoy your gorges and plateaus with 0 monsters lmao
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>>152861448
>not playing cast on death unironically
look these plebs.
playing pretend hardcore.
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>>152862378
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>>152862497
Do shitcrows even do this unironicaly anymore?
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fuck streamer favouritism

why does ggg love ziggydick so much
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his videos are bringing new people to the game = more money to chris' pocket
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i love ziggy d
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>>152865932
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099/page/2
first reply
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what the fuck am i reading
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>>152866461
this is me btw
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>>152866521

i knew this was jus a ruse
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>>152866607
:)
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Eternal reminder
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>>152866636
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>152866636
I miss my orb slaves
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>>152866347
so if I also fly over there I can fuck around in their office and get tons of insider info?
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>take a screenshot of a reddit post
>post it on 4chan

kys (kill yourself)
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>>152867437
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>he doesn't use tomorrow
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>>152866874
if you are reasonable popular probably.
you dont have to be as popular as ziggyd
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>got my first subscriber on youtube for PoE content

WE FAMOUS NOW BOYS
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11076567
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>>152867821
post you're channel
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>>152867946
nah, don't wanna risk /poeg/ putting dislikes on all my shit
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>>152812446
the 2 channeled skills are delayed, there's no way that's all they're releasing with this xpac
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>>152867940
No middleground? This poll is SHIT.
>>
8 days
4 hours
49 minutes
45 seconds
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>>152866874
Dress up like a character and maybe
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>>152868005
Maybe I'll subscribe too
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Friendly reminder that shit like this is still in game.
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>>152870425
shadow is the hybrid dex/int
I dont know the gem you are refering to, but Im willing to bet its str based
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>shadow pickers
>playing shadow
>rolling shadow
>maining shadow

people actually do this
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>>152870425
lol devouring totem.
get bent, bro.
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Have they implemented the all-class skill gem vendor once you reach merciless yet or did they still make you trade with other players for gem skills like a fucking retard?
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>>152870964

>typing "WTB x GEM 2ALCH" in trade chat is too hard for socially crippled neets

ahaha
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never forget this person flat out lied to your face

he has never cared for (you)

do not support GGG
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>>152871310
but we dont have instant feedback? Its never completely instant. the only way to have that would require the game to be offline.
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>>152821747
Yes. But you need chance to ignite for ignite so it's dildos.
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>>152871197
Suck my dick dude
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>>152870596
Why should a witch get it then?
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>>152871536
its not in the complete opposite side of the spectrum.
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>>152871310
>The combat would be unresponsive and the game would simply be unplayable

doesn't sound like a lie to me
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>>152871709

>plays on a potato
>lags

really makes you think
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i am going to sleep
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>>152872024
my potato should be good enough to play your game made in 2006, chris
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>>152871709
>>152872024
>>152872295
>not removing the particle effects

Are you stupid?
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my laptop runs poe at a rock solid steady silky smooth buttery jaw dropping mouth watering tantalizingly fluid 30 fps

diablo 2 was only 25 fps, entitleds and fps aren't real the human eye can't even see them
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>>152872578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoOhaNO5wPM&feature=youtu.be

>game still lags
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>>152872579
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>>152872579
>the human eye can't even see them
Common misconception, not actually true.
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>>152873082
all you see is blur. framerate makes no appreciable impact on your blurry game.
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>>152873179
Well, you had the chance to learn something today, instead you chose to stay a fucking retard.
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>>152873540
i know far more than you ever will newshit
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>>152873593
Sure you do.
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>>152873803
keep seeing dat blur newshit your eyes will adapt someday
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human eye cant see more than 30 fps that is a well known fact

anything else is just viral marketing from gpu companies
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>>152875230
>human eye cant see more than 30 fps that is a well known fact
>fact
Myth is the word you were looking for. Do the research and you'll be amazed.
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>>152875230
so if I slap you in the face over 31 times a second you won't see it coming?

Noted.
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the human eye can see varying levels of blur but not the fps
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>>152876714
That's objectively false.
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>>152877224
>it's blurry
>it's blurrier
wow it's nothing.

you need to start approaching 1000fps and thereby 1000hz to see the fps instead of the blur newshit
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>>152875673
>>152875807

>amd/nvidia drones
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>>152877392
>>152877532
You could spare us all some headache. I don't expect much. Even just reading the wikipedia article on framerate would be enough.

Here, I'll do it for you:

>With regard to image recognition, people have been found to recognize a specific image in an unbroken series of different images, each of which lasts as little as 13 milliseconds.

I don't even care what you tell yourself to feel better about your 30 fps. Just don't spout these marketing lies where people might read and actually believe them.
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>>152877862
Image recognition is meaningless when you're artificially capped by your monitor refresh rate first newshit

In real life you have real time ability like a monitor at infinite hz and source content with infinite framerate.

Your newshit computer monitor is like if there were to be a quickly moving object passing in front of your eyes that you weren't focusing on; the object would appear blurry. A second time you focus on the quickly moving object, it would no longer appear blurry.

Your monitor is like the quickly moving object that you don't focus on that looks blurry until you do only no matter how hard you focus it will always be blurry.
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>>152878291
Which is why people use monitors >30 Hz you incredible idiot.
>>
So I have a question about the atlas. Does unlocking a map on the atlas mean you can now run that map indefinitely without having to find it as a drop? Or does it only mean that by unlocking the map you have the chance of finding that map to drop so that you can run it?

I guess I'm asking how do you run maps now? Is it still the same as it was before?
>>
how about you read the post dedicated to atlas mechanics you fucking retard
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>>152878721
by unlocking the map you have the chance of finding that map to drop so that you can run it
>>
>upgrading a map is "permanent" and crosses all characters

doesn't that basically fuck anyone in hardcore?
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>>152878575
>30 Hz
Again, look at this image ---> >>152872579

What you see on screen doesn't come anywhere close to being anything but blurry until you start pushing close to 1000hz and have games that fan display 1000fps but this is never and should never happen.

You're artificially capped by your monitor's refresh rate due to human eye tracking and display persistence. There will always be many, many, MANY games that can't run anywhere near the required framerate to make the blur go away as well the power and cooling requirements make it far less desireable.

In ye olden day developers weren't complete retards they made games at 60fps and tube tvs and monitors had a low persistence display so all they needed were 60hz for a nearly blur free display.

tldr chasing higher framerate is a waste of money until the average pleb has a low persistence display game devs will continue not giving a fuck and they're 100% correct, newshit.
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>>152878721
The later.

You run maps the same way, but there is now basically a list of maps that you're eligible for attached to your account for the league. When a map drops, the tier is rolled. If you are eligible for one or more maps of that tier, then a random one of those maps is chosen. If you aren't eligible for any maps of that tier, then no map will drop.

You are always eligible for drops of tier 1 maps and adjacent maps on the atlas. The boss can still drop +2 maps, but only if you have unlocked one.
>>
this general is so shit

bring back the animespammer
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>>152879245
Oh alright. that makes this whole thing seem odd. What's really even the point? So you can avoid map layouts you don't like since they can't/won't drop?
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>labyrinth still in the game

no thanks
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>>152879141
>posting a still image as "proof"
I have another idea, why don't you just watch a video in 30 and then a video in 60, then tell us about the difference.

Also, you seem to be misunderstanding the 1000 Hz threshold. The human eye is theoretically but not actually able to perceive 1000 fps.
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>>152879552
>What's really even the point?
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>>152879768
>blurry
>blurrier
wow it's fucking nothing..

for an actual test http://testufo.com/#test=framerates-text&pps=960

Try and read all the text. You easily can on a low persistence monitor and you cannot.

I'm right and you will forever remain a gigantic meme victim.
>>
>like this game
>shitcore is boring
>almost always die in mid-tier maps

It's tough being a shitter.
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>>152880071
I have a harder time reading the 30 fps side because it appears much more blurry. Does that prove you wrong? Will you shut up now?
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>>152880527
>can't read either side
>b-but the other side is even shittier!

is same as:
>have square wheel that can't roll
>but i'll buy a square wheel with barely rounded corners that still can't roll
>haha fag square wheelers
meanwhile all the round wheels are laughing at you
>>
im trying to look at one of Chris' posts on the forum but it says i need to purchase a premium stash tab to view this content
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>>152880926
I believe you didn't read my post. I said I can read the left side but not the right.
But obviously that doesn't fit your narrative so you just ignore it. i understand.

I'm starting to think you are actually arguing that just because you yourself own a shitty monitor, that's because 30 fps is best for everyone.
>>
I always knew chris had a funny looking nose
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>>152880369
Play any build with blasphemy temp chains + enfeeble some evasion, you are basically unkillable.
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>>152881559
> I said I can read the left side but not the right.
> lying on the internet
the reason test exist specifically is because you cannot read either side without lowering the display's persistence. you may be able to make out a word or two and after several minutes piece it altogether but I can read it all in a single pass with ease.
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>>152881806
> lying on the internet
Yup, as I thought. You're actually deluding yourself because you can not be wrong.

Also, you can read an entire page in three seconds? Impressive.
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>>152879552
Pretty much. There are some interesting things that you can do with sextants and shapers though.

I think in general it's going to be better to have shaped maps for your higher tiers, with the exception being tier 15 itself. Adjacent drops being a much lower tier is very beneficial when you want to guarantee that higher tiers drop a specific map. Sextant costs for a red map surrounded by yellow maps will be much lower as well, as red sextants are rarer.
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>>152823529
nice bulge
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>>152882084
> Also, you can read an entire page in three seconds
i can easily see each word clearly whereas you cannot and thus will continue lying with already established laws of motion blur in place. it's like toying with a murderer when you already know they're guilty. but keep digging your own grave.
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>>152883129
Well I know what I saw, so who are you trying to convince here? Yourself?
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>>152883502
you're not convincing anything retard. you're calling a circle a square.
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What about unique maps ? For example If I have no t9 maps comleated but a Coward's Trial compleated, will every t9 drop be a CT? If so that shit will be so abused.
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>>152883787
Not him, but it seems like you're saying that given the proper hardware, the human eye can in fact perceive > 30fps, which is what the guy was claiming in the first place.
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>>152883896
No he's saying he can read words that are objectively impossible to read.

The intention isn't merely perception it's use. If the use is to see moving text legibly, neither works and thus increasing framerate and refresh rate for this purpose is a fool's errand.
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I know you guys hate new players and are most likely unwilling to share your trade secrets, but I still need to ask this scrub question:
How do I learn what stat combinations are valuable for selling items?
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>>152884287
easiest to check poe.trade. I honestly have barely any idea what makes a valuable item and I have like 300 hours in the game. Although last time I was playing unless it was a hard to find in-demand unique item or a top-tier ggg end game armor it was basically worth trash.
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>>152884123
The use isn't to see moving text though. It's an example you made to prove your point. The use is to play a game or watch a video.

Let's pretend for the sake of argument that I was lying. I'd still prefer to look at the 60 fps version and so would you.
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>>152884123
>The intention isn't merely perception it's use.
No, I'm pretty sure the original claim was that yes, you can see >30fps, and you started arguing about something else, while also agreeing in a way with Anon's original claim
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>>152884485
I prefer neither actually and would quit instead. That's why I use a low persistence display. Unfortunately using the right display only helps wo much. Most developers don't optimize their game for them since people like you exist and are the majority aka clueless morons who will continue defending their inferior way in life no matter how big of a knowledge bomb I drop on your pea sized brain you will in fact continue eating shit instead for reference see the next post or lack thereof.
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Chris "poeg was a mistake" Wilson
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okay i admit it, flicker strike isn't viable
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>>152885272
maybe you should spec some hp nodes
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>>152885272
lightning strike > flicker strike
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>>152884440
I mean, after watching a few youtube videos I know to watch out for high resistances and life/es. But other than that, trading items is just black magic to me.

Guess I'll just have to read through all the popular builds on forums, youtube channels and reddit.

And probably play in a league instead of standard.
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>>152886573
based
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>>152885272
>3.5k hp on melee char
go back to chickencore
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>>152861343
>my terrible OC is still being posted
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>tfw you only save sub standard OC
you're not getting out of this one, bub.
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>>152887783
I made that too.
Guess I'm OC King around these parts.
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>>152887527
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>>152887527
>>152887783
>>152888271
all me
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>>152888392
Please tell me they got rid of that. It's been half a year since I last booted up PoE.
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>>152887527
No one ever repost my OC, that's how shitty it is!
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>>152888536
That's because it's /co/ tier shit.
This is a Japanese general. No Western art allowed.
Pic related is fine art that came straight from the holy Nip land
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post javs
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>>152889321
i like this meme
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Hello my redditorfriends!
How many supporter packs have you bought today?

Are you excited for AoW?

Don't forget to buy discord premium when it comes out!
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R
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i bought 50 points and a currency tab today
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K
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Y
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>>152890357
I like this post !
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>>152890357
I can't afford a very good supporter pack this time I donated 500 dollars to both ziggyD and zizaran
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>>152890723
>vlc
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>>152890938
>.gif

Takes one to know one I guess.
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Hey guys, ZiggyD here, you've just read this in my voice!
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>>152891019
.webms weren't supported 3 years ago, sorry.
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>>152885272
>flickering on Izaro fight
full retard
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>>152891021
what if i didnt
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>>152891021
>hey guys instead of g'day
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>>152890723
why is Ziggy in anime?
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How great would PoE be if GGG fired 90% of their team and hired only the Japanese?
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>>152891534
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>>152891847
Cherrypicking.
PoE would become elder god of the ARPG genre, don't deny it.
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>>152891847
>Korean
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Lost Ark
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>>152892569
arr rook same
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>>152892696
>I never played a Japanese RPG please insert dicks into all 4 of my holes

I'm quoting you.
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>>152892927
neck yourself weeb
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>>152892927
Where's the fourth hole ...?
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So with the new hammer you can turn any physical dmg only skill to lightning only or you could drop physical to lightning gem from lightning strike. Is lightning strike usable on two handed weapons?
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>>152891534
>japanese
>games
the best games they make are porn and wierd shit like nier.
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>>152893248
Dumb redditor.
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>>152893248
>>152893586

Meant for
>>152893037
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>>152823529
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>>152866636
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What build is he playing?
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>>152896883
the never coming back build
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>>152866636
New looks more detailed and Old, but why couldn't they have just added that detail to Old?
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>>152897075
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>>152897208
For PC reasons

Can't have females chained to anything these days.
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>>152897681
Yea I figured.
What's up with that anyways. Was it sexual?
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>>152897681
He doesn't have PoE smoother
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>>152897681

it aint more PC to have them eaten by a lion and just leave their skulls there
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>>152897889
Not necessarily. The patriarchy oppresses women in every way.
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>>152898328
It's actually a maned lioness which makes it ok.
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is poesmoother up to date?
if I wanted to make a program that basically did the same as poesmoother, what should I look into?
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>>152866636
there will be new ones wit AoWp this
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>>152812605
I don't underestand.
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how much of a shill are you when GGG makes you advertise their new content?
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>>152902097
bout all supporter packs bought and 0.05$ per post
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>>152902379
You should be paying to even be allowed to talk about our Gods.
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>>152887527
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>>152888536
saved
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>>152891021
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>>152891021
>>152903042
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>GGG promises to buff map pack size so that everyone doesn't just buy gorges
>the game keeps getting easier/unbalanced because of the NEETs who inevitably hit 100 too fast
How long until they ignorantly do another global HP/damage buff on enemies like in Act 4's release?
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>>152903472
remember when malachai actually did damage?
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>>152903535
>core malachai is getting nerfed AGAIN
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>>152903535
>>152903472
post your accounts so we can see what level your characters are
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>>152903472
>GG promises to buff map pack size so that everyone doesn't just buy gorges
>>the game keeps getting easier/unbalanced because of the NEETs who inevitably hit 100 too fast

Reddit gets really mad when someone hits 100 "too fast" for some weird reason those cucks dont even make it to maps but they get so offended.
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>>152903535
Yes. The only way to actually die to Malachai now is taking a smash. Even then you'll still live if you're playing a marauder or something.
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>>152903681
just look me up it's me ZiggyD
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>>152903802
o sup man, I just talked to you the other day when you were in our office
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>>152903857
Why did everyone go silent when I asked about trade improvements?
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;)
hype
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>>152903941
Because it's so secret we can't talk about it around you, duh
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>>152903681
>not deleting all your characters at the end of a league
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>>152872295
wtf r u me
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could ghudda be our most popular poeg regular?
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>>152903681
I have more 100s than you shitcrow
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>>152904303
i hate him, he sounds so fucking pretentious regardless of what he's talking aobut
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>>152904223
>Being so poor you can't afford character slots
>Not using left over characters to experiment with builds

You're not even trying.

>>152904420
I severely doubt it.
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>>152904505
let's see yours then friend
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>>152904429
jealous haswellfag
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>>152904505
Lets see that profile shitcrow link char page.
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>>152904505
>Being so poor you can't afford character slots
Giving pesos to jews
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>>152904505
>he bought character slots
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>>152904641
Funny, since they'd probably have a better money-making scheme than a free game if that's what they were all about.
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>>152904720
we get them free for working here
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>>152904775
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>152904989
LOL
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>>152904989
ugz

>>152905013
wtf

plz guys, better content.
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>>152904989
yes but how big is it?
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>>152904775
Do you seriously believe poe could have different system than f2p+p2w?
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>>152904989
go to sleep Jeebie
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This place has gone downhill since 2.0 beta.....
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>>152905532
This place has always been shit but not quite as shit as the reddit
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>>152905110
Do you just call it pay to win as an excuse for holding you back at being good at the game?
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>>152905551
Ziz stop shitposting you've been out of control lately.
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>>152905532
fuck off

it's been shit since 1.0 release
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>>152904502
>ghudda the ever high as fuck guy
>sounding pretentious
sounds like to me that you are just terribly dumb. I bet you post cat pictures here often as well
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>>152905781
since closed beta*
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>>152905781
Then why are you still here?
Do you like to roll around in shit, anon?
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>>152905853
poeg was objectively good before the game was released on steam and all the pretendcore players came
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>>152905856
yes
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>>152906072
yea it was sort of like /dsg/ when only demon's souls existed
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>>152906072
You misspelled pretentious
It was better before you dickheads came along.
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Debate me on when bakedchicken is not objectively the best PoE player with 16 SIXTEEN level 100 characters. Oh you can't :) ?
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>>152904989
I just busted a nut to this pic and I am most certainly NOT steyox.
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>>152907068
She's average as hell, nobody gives a shit.
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life would be objectively better if we didnt exist
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>>152907118
She.. lmao
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>>152907118
>She's average as hell, nobody gives a shit.
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paws doesnt have that bad of a man jaw tho
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>>152907323
Just a really giant forehead
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me on paws cock
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4Head
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>>152907232
I bang the type of women you wish you could talk to
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https://github.com/badplayerr/beta-autopot/releases

this should be added to the main post
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>>152908375
Shitcrows please stop trying to bait
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reminder that poeg is a HC general strictly for elite HC players

NO shitcrows allowed
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>>152908792
That once again begs the question why the fuck are you here, ziz?
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>>152903667
Don't post your reddit images here.
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you're a bunch of retards
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Reminder to poeg players:

If you've made it up to Cruel you're doing really good! Just keep going and you're pretty much up there with the rest of us. If you have any questions we're happy to answer them, so don't feel afraid to ask. Most of us are still low level too :-)

There's no such thing as a stupid question! hehehe
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>>152909135
Did you not read "For elite HC players only" you piece of shit slanted eye fucking chink.
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i would make sweet love to paws for hours and hours until our genitals got all pruny
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How do I roll an armourers strongbox in a map?
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>>152909260
You've been issued a 40 hours mute for racist comments.
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>>152909325
I wanna eat that ass it probably tastes like cola damn that gets me so hard gonna go bust another nut to paws.
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>>152909142
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anyone know what the next iteration of demigods will be?
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>>152909986
It doesn't really matter for you you won't ever win a demi.
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>>152910123
i've won 8. two rings, three amulets, two chests and a pair of boots
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who's the shithead running the wiki that makes changes to the scripts without realizing that it breaks literally everything?
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me, what are you going to do about it, fagboi?
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>everyone points out how retarded the atlas is
>GGG agrees and adds in scours for atlas, yet I'm sure they're going to be as rare as exalts, and gives some vague bs "we're balancing the maps"
>reddit immediately starts sucking chris's balls because they're the best company of all time because they listen to their players woww
all that's going to happen is if gorge is nerfed, a new perfect map will be discovered in 12 hours and everyone will run that for the next few months
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>>152910594
in all likelihood those fanboys are shills
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>>152910594
I guess the only choice now is to just abuse the hell out of the system and show GGG how wrong they are about how they'll be able to balance their maps.
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>>152910708
staff use their alts, but as far as I've seen only for discussions/help
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so are they adding new monsters with the new maps?

or is it just tilesets..?
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Anyone else just going to fill the atlass like whatever?

i'm too casual to give a shit about forcing certain drops.
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>>152912789
same here
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Haven't played since the ghosts gimmick patch.

What's new and broken? Bored of other games and need a mindless clicker with flashy lights and big numbers for a while.
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>>152912789
>>152912873
filthy casuals get off my board
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>>152912789
same
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>>152912789
I'm pretty focused on being a completionist so I'll finish it first. Afterwards, if there's a big difference in map prices, I'll do what it takes to maximize profits (the price of scouring doesn't actually sound that bad and you'll only really want to maximize the drops of the high tier stuff that's in demand, so only need to scour like 8 maps)
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>>152912897
Cast on Crit
Discharge cancer
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>>152913151
I thought CoC was getting the hammer soon?
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>>152906416
he's entertaining. idk about best player
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>>152913353
they say that every week
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>>152913353
Chris wilson doesn't have the balls to nerf it in a significant way I expect to play a few coc dischargers to 100 in EHC desu senpai.
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>an entire fucking week and 19 hours
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>>152913780
you'll see :(
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I <3 paws
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>>152914117
I got niggers impersonating me now on this thread
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>>152914273
Could be worse, you could be Bex the catposter.
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how long until GGG releases more info
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>>152915491
literally a day before release
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>>152915817
FUCKINg dumb
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nobody post

just let it die
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even in p2w korean games you can get p2w stuff by playing without spending money

why is GGG so retarded? their business model has been terrible since the beginning

they need to completely revamp it and make it fair to everyone to get rid of the p2w stigma that will inevitably destroy the game

and chris needs to get over the delusional that this is a high quality game he can charge whatever he wants for. this game is a piece of shit
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>>152922225
The only games that should allow P2W are games without any substantial form of botting. So like 3 fps mmo games
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>>152922225

those p2w games you mention also give you some pretty noticeable advantages when you really invest in their cash shops.

poe's p2w aspect is more muted. sure having 20 stash tabs makes a difference, sure having trade tabs means your shit sells a bit faster (woo you only wait 2 minutes instead of 10), sure currency tab makes it easy to hoard currency even if no one who knows their shit hoards low tier currency.

in the end its entire possible to have all you need with about $15 and you NEVER need nothing else again, while in the korean grinders your can spend hundreds and more money will mean more advantages always
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>>152922225
It could be worse, it could be entropia. I know someone who spent a few hundred grand(The Greatest RMTer known to man, Mighty Max) in Entropia.
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Why does everyone here hate Juggernaut Earthquake builds? They seem perfect for beginners.
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>>152923282

no one has been actively telling people to not play it. but all memebuilds get bad press
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But PoE _IS_ pay to win

Everyone starts the league equally, sure, some play faster, slower who cares.

But when people start heavily needing currency, you can literally just go on an RMT website for PoE, buy orbs, and get a massive advantage in game.

How the fuck is that not pay to win?
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>>152923586
Every game with trade is P2W yes.
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>>152923586
because technically it is not GGG selling you anything

you are trading with other players and if you want to give them rl money for items, thats your choice

its like saying any sport is p2w because you can always bribe someone into fixing your doping tests
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>>152923787
>because technically it is not GGG selling you anything

Qarl would disagree
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>>152923586
You're a idiot
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>>152923845
it has been speculated and backed with innumerable circumstantial evidence, that GGG staffers actually are behind most of the early league RMT business.

but no hard proof yet. it wouldnt be illegal anyway, just scummy
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>>152924040
I personally bought 3 vols devotions off chris wilson himself during Proph HC ripped 2 then reached 100 with the 3rd :)
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Self found check box on character creation

Your name has an SF tag next to it on leaderboard

You can party with non SF

All your drops are bound

Imagine the shitstorm when HC Self Found gets #1 on ladder

GGG should do this because players would play a SF and non SF so it would take up twice as much stash space

Twice as much stash space requirements equals twice as many stash tab sales!

They won't do it because Chris Wilson runs an underground RMT empire via d2items.com
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If we find an issue and bring it up we can be sure that GGG will take a look at the devs will listen to the community when I trust that the devs will listen to that next paycheck so I can get a nice supporter pack, simply because GGG is awesome and deserves to get paid
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>>152924040
it's not hard to believe when you understand where/how/why GGG decided to make poe
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>>152924040
It IS illegal according to New Zealand laws. I'm not sure exactly which one, but if I recall correctly, RMT goes against a retarded trade law in NZ
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>>152924260
Yep, it would threaten the loss of the entire business. It's not worth risking something like that when you've got however many staff.
And I can tell you that there is a lot of work put in against RMT.
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Customer support is awesome and bring it up we can be sure they responsive to player feedback, but they're one of the members of GGG for the members of GGG as one of the best companys in the consistent community when there's real issues
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>>152924465
>>152924465
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0105/latest/DLM321102.html


Here is one of the many articles I was referring to as well.

It is undeniable that GGG profit from RMT, however, it is passed off as a middleman, basically-underground service, which thus isn't audited. The revenue generated by RMT (a substansial amount) is basically undeclared company income.
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>>152924710
what is GGG is no longer a NZ company?

even if their offices are there, it could be legally constituted somewhere else where such regulations don't exist.
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GGG saw how lucrative d2jsp/dtrades is back in the 00s and decided to do it themselves

this is why i don't like them and will never give them my money, because they've been hiding behind a thinly veiled facade of being "good guy gamers" all these years when i know that they're lying, greedy pieces of shit
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>>152925038
Highly possible

>>152925074
This a million times

Chris is basically the "innocent, good gamer goy", the type of jaeg who would play Skelly necro or barb. Maybe he RMTd a little bit, maybe he enjoys the profit now, who cares. He's just a poster boy now.


Qarl and the balance team are the ones in control of the money. Qarl was the type of faggot to aggressively bot, RMT, and instantly rush to play Hammerdin and sorceress builds.
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>>152915817
>>152915491
Wait, wait wait... they release info that's useful to make builds ONE (1) day before release day?
Are they RETARDED? What the fuck?
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>>152924710
>undeniable
>all speculation

pls
But yeah the Fair Trading Act (http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1986/0121/latest/DLM96439.html) would cover that stuff.

>>152925074
It's healthy for you to be a little critical, but you're being totally irrational. Yet nothing's going to change your mind though because you seem to be obsessively hateful.
>>
>>152925074
>they've been hiding behind a thinly veiled facade of being "good guy gamers" all these years when i know that they're lying, greedy pieces of shit
I hate them because they've been hiding behind a thinly veiled facade of being "good guy gamers" all these years when i know that they're lazy, incompetent retards.
>>
>>152925038
>what is GGG is no longer a NZ company?

>>152925295
>Highly possible

Nice try morons, but it's a registered NZ company. You can look it up.
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>>152925505
>Are they RETARDED
yes
>>
>>152925750
God knows if I had the money, I'd start a financial audit investigation in NZ about GGG
>>
>>152925750
its half-bought by Tencent by now

it would take very little for it to become a chink company.
>>
>>152925930
Tencent don't own any of GGG. It's a partnership, not a merge.

>>152925867
And you'd lose a lot of money for nothing.
>>
Who are these 2 retards hating on GGG so much? If you dislike the company then don't play the game, and get the fuck out of the general.

Fucking idiots. I bet they've never even made it up to Merciless.
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>>152823529
runescape thieving guild?
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>>152926248
Back2reddit
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>>152926379
Your bitch ass can't even handle heated discussion
gb2gaia
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>>152926082

a TINY indie dev partnering with a gigantic gaming transnational means prelude to a buyout, learn your business anon
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>>152926248
I have several level 90+ in shitcore and I've extensively participated in selling and buying RMT shit

While I don't play the game properly (hardcore temp leagues) I've been playing long enough
>>
i've literally seen people RMT right before my eyes and post screenshots all over the place as proof and nothing has ever happened to them
>>
>>152926248
what's the matter, too much red pill for you anon?

did you know there's an entire website dedicated to safe spaces that's much more suitable to you?
>>
>>152926532
>its half-bought by Tencent by now
>means prelude to a buyout

which one is it? You don't seem to be able to make up your mind.

>>152926707
Screenshots aren't all that good evidence desu.
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>>152927005
GGG should still be able to detect RMT because of the huge amount of currency being moved(hundreds of chaos orbs) from characters with suspicious IPs
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>>152926945
baited for these exact replies
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>>152924147
fuckoff
>>
>>152927005

probably both. no company publishes in china unscathed, specially not a small one


>>152927005

they have server transaction logs to track rmt, yet they never act upon that info

if they dont have them, then its 100% assured they are the ones behind the rmt
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>>152927176
you can't handle the truth
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>>152927208
> probably both
Nope, they're still 100% GGG, no other buy ins in their shares as of yet. Just checked.

> yet they never act upon that info
You haven't done your research, have you?
https://www.google.co.nz/#q=banned+rmt+path+of+exile
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>>152926548
So how much money can you make with RMT?
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>>152927698
fuck all
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>>152927590
>>152927590

one in 100 gets banned. ive played with RMTers who havent ever been banned in 2+ years of doing it

>just checked

link?

>w-w-wait i c-cant prove it

fuck off
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>>152927698
I know a guy in the UK who traded/purchased/hoarded ~1200 eternal orbs back when they only cost 2-4 (3-4 USD) exalts on shitcore, also back when the GBP was stronger. It is to be noted that he didnt start with zero investment; he INVESTED into RMT

Now theyre worth 25+ exalts, which, if youre the RMTer selling, is about 25ish USD.

Do the math. Thats profit.

Now, he basically runs an RMT ring from the profits, mostly bot farms with multiple PC's for fusings and chaos>exalt as well as people selling to him because they want a quick buck, and he sells for a profit in larger quantities.
>>
>>152928014
Their shareholdings are listed if you search their company: https://www.business.govt.nz/companies/learn-about/searching

How good are you at apologising?
>>
>>152872295
>i5 6600K
>GTX 960
Why do people like you exist
>>
>>152928805
what's wrong with it?
>>
>>152928456
ONE person controlling 50% of any small company ALWAYS means buyout

See how its a LLC too, that makes it ripe for takeover.
>>
GGG also has "private investors" as chris has said, whatever that means. i'm assuming some rich people gave them a huge startup stipend for a share of their stock share
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>>152928943
Yep, you can't apologise for being proven wrong. They haven't been bought out (yet), like you claimed. I don't actually want your opinion anymore, since you didn't even know you could look up their shares online before you started making bullshit claims.

>>152929049
Nigga do you even follow this game or it's history? Chris has done interviews talking about their startup money and initial investors.
>>
>>152929282
>They haven't been bought out
they've very clearly been bought out though
>>
guys stop arguing and post builds theories for 2.4!!! nerf speculations, how youre gonna make the perfect atlas..
>>
>>152929346
You want to care to explain? FYI their shareholding particulars haven't been altered since 2012.
>>
>>152929282
I like how you keep typing "yet" because you know as well as we do, that its only a matter of time.
>>
>>152929604
you're pretty retarded dude
>>
>>152929781
>>152929754

How?

You claim they were bought out, but their shares haven't changed. How else could it happen guys? please? PLEASE?

Yeah, I say yet because it could happen. But I'm disputing it has, because whichever one of you who said they have already is a fucking retard because it simply isn't true.
>>
>>152929346
as entertaining as this is to read the other guy is right, at least until the chinks grip a little harder
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>>152930108
>>152929959
>chris has openly stated he's partnered with tencent but NO THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OUT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT WAHHHH
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>>152929781
I enjoy the game, don't want it going down the shitter. So of course I worry about this thing, and MORONS who don't do their research before saying stupid things.
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>>152930468
nobody wants to see the game go to shit but that's exactly what's happening
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hey guys ive been playing since open beta yet i have no friends on my friends list its empty haha, is that normal?
>>
>>152930438
The partnership with Tencent is being treated the same way as the one for Garena, so there's no changes to the main game. Hardly a sell out.
>>
>>152928068
>>152927698
This has to be false, GGG would be aware if RMT was going on their servers.

Morons.
>>
>>152930697
i have 100 people on my /f l and nobody is ever online
>>
>>152930723
And yet it still happens

really makes you think
>>
>>152928805
pls explain
>>
>>152930697
completely normal
>>
>>152930723
>>152930893

You know we can see you're the sameposter, right?
>>
>>152931001
Want me to stream my screen so I can prove you wrong?

I didnt think so, you false flagging flaming faggot
>>
>>152931139
actually yes
>>
>>152931139
Yes, stream your screen or else we all will think you're lying. But the retard levels still match up.
>>
Can you tone it down, discordfags?
>>
>>152931262
https://www twitch tv /anoodles


>>152931308
kys faggot, and take your worthless opinions with you
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>>152931502
o, it's animeposter.
Sorry, and thanks.
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>>152931502
when's the next stream
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>>152932369
give me games to play

I was planning on doing my annual Rayman 2 : The great escape stream soon anyways, but the game is always a pain in the ass to stream
>>
>>152932509
stream a dancing game
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>>152932648
I could point my webcam downwards at my classic PSP and play project diva
>>
http://store.steampowered.com/app/349720/


is this a fun dancing game?
>>
esk is back online on steam
>>
always knew esk was a steamshitter
>>
esk did manage to leave for 80 days, so xhe probably needed to hop back on the gabencock
>>
what if zeno unironically kuduku'd because of reddit
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>>152933163
literally who?
>>
>>152933404
That would be the best thing to happen to PoE in years
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REMINDER:

two years ago maybe even one year ago POEG had skilled, thoughtful, and an intelligent core of players that easily pushed to the top of the ladder with us rooting for them.

now you guys spam memes and die to cruel piety
>>
cruel piety is no joke
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>>152933836
b-but it was those players who died to cruel piety
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GGG DOESN'T EVEN DEVELOP THEIR OWN GAME ANYMORE. IT WAS OUTSOURCED TO CHINA. CHRIS RECORDED 10 YEARS WORTH OF GAME DEVELOPMENT FOOTAGE AND PAID SOME COMPUTER NERD TO RELEASE IT INCREMENTALLY ALONG WITH EACH PATCH MADE BY THE CHINESE. CHRIS WILSON IS ON A YACHT RIGHT NOW SIPPING MARGITAS AND COLLECTING DAT RMT MONIES. THE GUY WHO RESPONDS TO YOUR REDDIT POSTS IS CHINESE. EVERY FEW MONTHS CHRIS VISITS SAN FRAN TO HOLD A "COMMUNITY EVENT" WHERE HE ALSO MEETS HIS RMT ACCOUNTANT SIMULTANEOUSLY. DON'T BELIEVE HIS LIES.
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>>152934041
me on the left
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>>152933836
i blame aleski for ruining the guild

fuck you aleski
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVFclG3JKDk
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>>152933836
will you root for me this season?
>>
>>152934727
no, literally who are you? I only root for my long-dead and gone clique friends
>>
>>152934932
not even if i pull up and we ghost?
>>
>be a guy on twitter
>200 followers
>no one ever replies or likes my shit

>pretend to be a girl
>even at a low 120 followers
>everyone replies like mad and likes my shit


uhhhh.... poetards???????????????
>>
>>152935067
can you pretend for me?
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>>152935160
I'd have to shave, but I do have child bearing hips and an ass that can't lie.
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>>152935267
get help
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>tfw no autistic poegf
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>>152935067

fat neets hope to earn the right to use your pretend cooch by using attention as a currency
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>>152935267
>>152935160
or did you mean something else?


>>152935306
>he doesnt enjoy a little homoeroticism every now and then

wow I bet you play CI builds
>>
>>152935404
cante ven tell
wt fis g oingo n in thisg if
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>>152935448
that's pulp

kripp, cybrix and popville are in the back
>>
>>152935542
no it's some american streamer from way back

he was playing ice spear totems

or maybe freezing pulse
>>
getstunnednerd
i think he played icespear totems
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>>152935542
>popville

i miss him

the light inside poe has gone out
>>
>>152936547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO8aNTWIpfY
>>
tfw tropical island is a t7 map now so i can't get a cheap as fuck 5l staff at the start of the league anymore

hopefully that bone helm drops from a low-tier map
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>>152936642
>that fps
>them builds
>those auras
>>
>>152935542
how do i make a proper poeg approved meme stream that all whiny children will enjoy watching
>>
>>152936990
well, poe was fun back then

it's fun to watch people having fun

this game isn't fun anymore. it's SHIT
>>
>>152937050
it's still pretty fun, you're probably just burnt out anon :)
>>
>>152936853
I would do anything to have those auras back
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>>152937112
nope

game was a lot better back then

lvl90 was a monumental achievement, lvl100 was unheard of

you had to theorycraft and plan your builds to be able to survive reflect, shotgun oneshots and desync

literally everything in the game could easily kill you so you had to be very careful and take it slowly
>>
>remove CoC
>buff reflect
>add thorns back
>add mechanics to further help combat new reflect
>more defensive measures for mobs against ranged (more bubbles, mirrors that shoot back your projectiles, etc)
>increase monster movement speed in maps
>nerf endurance charges
>balance monster damage so that damage is more chunky and less spikey
>>
just remove bullet hell tbqh
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>>152937369
i like the game now but reflect is so easy to avoid these days, it's retarded

vinktar was a mistake
>>
>>152937570
>make a completely different game
>win
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>>152937643
no desu
>>
>>152938093
>default attack on left click

yikes.
>>
>>152938093
malachai's literally a little overboard
>>
>>152938167
I dont know why they made his arena so fucking TINY

They couldve made it larger, spread it out a bit more, gotten some clarity in the spells he uses, etc

its just an eternal clusterfuck
>>
>>152938352
like making it so at LEAST the arena was big enough to have one mine, one hands aoe and one tornado next to eachother doesnt make it so that you HAVE To take damage to walk from one side to the next like fuck
>>
>>152938093
bullet hell is the shittest game mechanic there is. if i wanted that i'd go play an old arcade copter game.
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>>152938093
>>152938167
>>
>>152938479
this image triggers me
how do you HC players even fucking deal with this shit you'd have to Alt f4 every single time you get bad spell rng
>>
So im building Heropants with 4 totems and im using my helmed, shoes, gloves and armour for different totemes but sometimes i misclkci and cycle them incorrectly and my damage totems dissapear when i summon 2 healing totems accidently. How can i keep my damage totem from dyeing when my support totems go overboard?
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So who else is just going to build another ED/Contagion character and grind the cheevos?
>>
>>152938551
dodging stuff is instinct at this point
>>
>>152939825
you CANT
>>
>malachai
>bullet hell
People who have never played a bullet hell general.
A bullet hell involves micro movements to squeeze between pellets in a wave. Malachai has BIG AoE's that require you to get out of the way.
>>
>>152940192
by 'dodging' he means 'logging out'
they're synonymous words to hardcore players (and high-end softcore grinders)
>>
always kek at the "hc players log out" shitcrow argument

as if it takes more skill to die than to log out
>>
>every single video/trailer shows mobs are tanky as fuck and no one is doing damage
I'm scared
>>
leftward exp bar movement strikes again
>>
>>152940458
oh
>>
Didn't they say they wanted to change how CoC worked a while back?
Hinted that it'd be guaranteed to cast but the cd would be longer, something like that.
>>
>>152939693
They might nerf double dipping, which would make boss killing as ED pretty painful.
>>
>>152941165
its just chris putting 0 nodes into fucking damage lmao look at the ign gameplay towards the end when he shows the "crazy wacky out tha wazoo talent tree"
>>
>>152941269
they're too afraid to substantially nerf anything because standard shitters would cry a river and standard is a huge part of their income
>>
does anybody have the kripp cuck collage?
>>
>>152941561
>standard is a huge part of their income
how?
>>
>>152941729
they constantly buy tabs because they never lose anything
>>
what does poeg think about new bosses shown by our guy ziggy?
>>
>>152941896
>our guy ziggy
bait
>>
>>152941896
i don't watch any ziggyd shit

i'll have to wait for pt to give his opinion. he is my god
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>>152941932
haha you got me buddy, everyone knows projectpt is our guy
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>>152942192
kys
>>
>>152942228
when did ranger become so thicc
>>
>>152940192
There are movement spells in the game, anon.
>>
>>152942432
you fucking retard try playing it first before posting
>>
>>152942479
But I have over a thousand hours.
>>
>>152942516
name the only movement skills that can transport you through a constant stream of damage
>>
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>>152942648
fire whoosh
>>
>>152941312

Nah, ED contagion might not have been the fastest boss killer, but comfy as fuck.

You just shot the boss, put up your wither totem, and ran in circles.
>>
>>152943003
amazing
every build must have
>>
hey guys i just started playing why cant my character jump ? haha :o)
>>
>>152943193

wait for LostArk

it fixes everything poe got wrong and improves what it got right
>>
>>152942648
m8 if you die to malachai the game isnt the problem, you are. Git gud.
>>
I know from all that I've read, the PvP scene in this game is pretty small but I'd still like to see if it's worth my time. I am an Australian player and grew up playing d2 LLD PvP for years and years. Absolutely loved it and I see a lot of similarities in this game.

I would like to know where I can start out as a PvP focused player. Is the scene bigger in standard or hardcore? Are there any guilds or communities that have guides for new LLD players? Absolutely any guidance or information will be greatly appreciated, whether it be welcoming me to try PvP or warning me to not waste my time.

N.B. I do not want to play an FPS or Moba or WoW. I love the isometric style of the game and it has never phased me that it's a 1 hit play style for PvP. I find a lot of thrill in the extreme power of PvP LLD characters - I PvPd in FlyFF for 10 years and anyone who knows that game understands that 90% of PvP revolves around 1-2 hitting people. The RPG aspect of gearing up a character is why I will not choose a moba or FPS.
>>
>>152943427
play dota/lol/Hos instead

poe is a pve game
>>
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anyone played crit staff warchief totems?
might give it a shot this league
>>
>>152943932
i mean, warchief totems are pretty solid so i'm sure crit ones would be gucci
>>
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>>152942314
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post secret builds

i'm going crit facebreaker
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>>152944815
srs necromancer
>>
>>152944815
I theorycrafted Brain Rattler because I was bored.

>Witch or Templar
>CI, 200+% ES + 65% from int + 15% more
>RT
>100% chance to shock on normal hits
>fuckloads of leech with Vinktar's, Doryani's, etc
>lightning penetration of 90+%
>400+% increased damage from the tree alone
>2 curses, likely one defensive and one offensive

Sounds good on paper. If I get the mace, then I'll try it out.
>>
>>152934041
nice build
>>
>>152945991
>2h
>CI
>>
>>152946909
It's fine whenever the other major ES pieces are 100% open.
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>>152947173
gonna have to disagree with you there
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WHERE ARE THE PATCH NOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>152948601
ask catposter
>>
>>152948729
he hasn't said his leaguely complaint about having to type them up yet
>>
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>searching for a new gpu
>look for PoE benchmarks on youtube
>find one with exactly the right card i'm considering
>he farms the coast
>uses a single projectile

some people.
>>
>>152949626
it really doesn't matter

if all you do is play poe just get a used 280 or something cheap

poe needs a good cpu to run decently well, but don't ever expect to get decent fps in this piece of shit. it's terrible
>>
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>>152949626
>thinking you're ever going to get decent fps out of PoE
>>
>>152950016
it's so annoying too because you used to be able to play in a full party with a bad pc and still get 30+ fps
>>
>>152807951
>Read this before asking for build advice
>http://www.reddit.com

This general already seems like a chill place full with helpful people
>>
I've been popping Vyvanse for 3 days now and haven't slept.

Do you think its possible to commit suicide by sleep deprivation?
>>
>The best-known case of FFI is that of Michael Corke, who died after 6 months of total sleep deprivation


Nevermind.
>>
What a horrible way to die.
>>
>>152950573
you are absolutely correct

there is no point in trying to help shitcrows because they do not want to be helped

they are lost causes
>>
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i love bex
>>
>I test builds in hardcore only
>>
An overdose of Vyvanse can be fatal. Signs and symptoms of overdose include:

panic, confusion, or hallucinations

hypertension, hypotension, or arrhythmia

abdominal cramps

nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea

convulsions or coma
Hmmmm.
>>
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>>152951612
>>152951612
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