/4ccg/ - /block/ edition

Why didn't you sage?

2n for I love Boris

>>152752741
The real 4cc Champions

4th for the hat chose /mlp/ not the rigger.

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>>152752741
Press B to bring it back.

>>152752741
>someone asked Boris to make the next thread
>he actually did, the absolute madman

Wonder if /h/ can make it out of fetus without even playing a game.

>>152752741
Rick 'Ponykiller' Thunderbolt

9th for Cyclo is the worst commentator

>>152753520
10th for seconding this

>>152753520
11th for thirding this.

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Hey, I've just been verified as the new manager for /x/. This competition hasn't been remotely spooky enough recently.

>>152754596
>equus
fucking P L A N T E D

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>>152754596
Good, /x/ has been seeing way too little play in recent cups.
Please bring /x/ to it's much deserved glory in the winter cup.

>>152754783
FUCKING SPOOPY!!

Warn me next time dude.

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>>152754895
>didn't check the filename

>>152755042
I can't help but open spoiled images right away.

I leap before I look.

>>152754783
They deserved so much better than being left qualifying for Babby. Hopefully I can help prove that.

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19th for glorious /tg/

>>152752741
Why does /block/ keep on winning?

>>152755665
FUCKING RIGGED!!!

>>152755665
Why did /block/ allow horsefuckers to win?

>>152756183
/block/ beat them

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>>152756183
>>152756309
>>152752927

Did /o/ throw the final match versus /mlp/? Only /mlp/ scored during the second half.

Is /tg/ still going to be in the Autumn Cup, or do they have to go through the Fetus?

>>152757006
/mlp/ scored in the first half
> 9' Tracy

AI players can't "throw" a game. They can only get >RAPE

>>152757150
Managers can totally throw games. Look at /a/'s last game this cup.

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nth for remove managers

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Reminder to allow it.

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Reminder that Lear is the worst commissioner yet.
>afraid to make real decisions
>only comes around when a cup is about to start then leaves until it's over
>is surprised when the rules are inconsistent but refuses to rewrite them
>rules only really matter when /w/ is involved
>ignored several test cups before summer 16 and decided the only change necessary was a +3 gk stat buff
>keeps all the information to himself and is confused when his decisions backfire
>told Manticore to fuck off for wanting to help the team despite being retired, allowed PMB to do the exact same thing except under a different name
>doesn't know the meaning of the word 'spine'

Lear's decision making is literally more random than PES16.
Every day until Lear puts out the fires he started.

>>152758197
I like it that fish picture a lot!

>>152758260
HE HATES IT
wait no this is wrong

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Hat Pick: /trv/

>>152758484
>/a/ , /ck/ and /toy/ in one group
>/sp/ , /out/ and /wg/ in one group

It's not fair

>>152757006
They barely did anything.

Hell, that's what I kept saying in the /m/ thread. Rape had 4 longballs that ended in offside by a thread, which means he was half a meter behind the defender and would've ended in a 1v1 duel if it passed.

Yet the /m/ council didn't change a single thing for the entire match despite the heavy pressing by /mlp/ and /m/ having a SINGEL ATTEMPT.
Why act surprised when they finally score after that? It was inevitable.

>>152748181
>I am the broken man, the punished rigger, but the worst has already happened. I don't think things can get significantly more awful... even if /mlp/ somehow manage to win again in the future it doesn't really add anything significant: We can't go further down than them already being atop the heap.

I'm sorry to say this Boris but Stay salty.

I mean come on when have we ever been bad to you? We didn't cause the twitch channel to be banned, we didn't harass you, we always supported you, why do you act like we murdered your family when you admit yourself the problem is the people around you who can't handle that we won who brings you down?

>>152756821
Beating the elite four means nothing unless you beat the champion

/block/ should be in winter instead of the current champions, that will make Boris happy

>>152759825
Boris is right though. The next babby is going to be great, simply because /mlp/ is not in it. Not because of salt but because their army of autists sucks all the fun out of the cup.

>>152760143
Put /block/ in fetus and see if they can reach r16 of elite

>152759825
fuck off horsefucker, everybody hates you

>>152760143
/block/ is the current champion

>>152760143
I approve of this. Give /block/ the star, enact GR15 and replace the shithole with them.

#commiSOUner

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>>152760215
Literally them and the people constantly whining about them and acting like a tough guy like >>152760237 .
But of course those people will never admit their own autism.

>>152760287
/block/ has the star. See the OP

>>152760215
>The next babby is going to be great, simply because /mlp/ is not in it
As an ex-horsefucker who still enjoys bandwagoning the team I have to agree. The /mlp/ threads are way better if they're not playing.

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>>152752741
>people thought this cup would be good.
They didn't see the warning sign

>>152760510
Well duh.
>over 2600 matches for rape.

>Boris is having great time
>Fan favorite teams like /m/, /o/ or /v/ and doing well
>Commentator banter is friendly
>Suddenly one commentator takes of the mask
>Is PMB
>"I can't allow you to have fun, Boris"
>Kills Boris on stream
>PMB is stil allowed to manage
uuuh explain this?

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>PES

>>152755278
Good luck man, it wasn't easy rooting for /x/ lately.

>>152760710
But Anon, everybody knows he's managing, but he's """not managing""" because he isn't verified!
It's not like his team deserves punishment, why would you ever want that?

Pmb is dragonfag

Any blender people around? Is there a way to simplify the mesh from 50k to the appropriate number?

>>152757091
check the wiki nigga

>>152761665
use decimate

>>152761665
git gud

>>152758484
HELP

>>152761665
Delete everything, go EEEEEEEEEE mode.

>>152761727
Thanks

>>152761857
I'm trying

>>152762040
That's the backup plan

>>152761665
As the other anon said, but if you're not happy enough with blender's decimate function get meshlab and use the filters>remeshing>quadratic decimation function. It keeps a lot more detail with the same amount of faces.

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!!

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>>152763384

>>152760710
Why do people say he "managed" the final boss/matches? He did shit tictac wise, all he asked is to put the specific players with special goalhorns in the field (who barely score ever because they're midfielders anyway.)

>>152763770
>put the specific players with special goalhorns in the field
That is managing anon.

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>>152760237
>Oh no, the literal Tumblr tier autists who can't ignore pony hates us, waaah.
Seriously some of the people around have some serious entitlement issues with the site.

>>152763843
If you want to be that one retard who don't get jokes and want to piss everybody off, I guess.

>>152763936
But i am not PMB

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Since we're already in uncomfy mode this morning, reposting from the last thread.

Like I mentioned last week, I'd like to put together an invitational to get new/potential managers/commentators interested in the cup and willing to try being involved in a low pressure, low impact environment. I've created a wiki page for people that might be interested in entering a team or commentating during this event:

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:DukeSilver/No_Bully_Bowl

Signups are there, although it's not REALLY first-come first-served (People that haven't managed or commentated before are going to be given first dibs). I'd be happy to discuss it with anyone that's interested on Skype or IRC, and I'll try to respond here wherever it's possible. I know a lot of people feel like things have gotten a little circlejerky, and people are also worried about "muh quality commentary" and avoiding spaghetti on stream, so I figured this was a nice in between compromise.

Nothing's confirmed for dates yet, since I know there are a few events (Multinational Bowl and a potential VGL 7 / Moeshit Cup 2) that are in the works, too. I wanted to make sure there was some interest before blocking any times off, though. Like I said, hit me up with any questions.

>>152764871
Wow, what a lot of NEW people that signed up for this

>>152760541
but it WAS good pham

>>152764871
>sign up a team since we'll already have cool aesthetics made
>realize it's for inexperienced managers
oops ¦D
Any anon or newbie can feel free to manage /wumpa/ if they want

>>152765239
>summer past 2012
>good
fuck off /mlp/

So, with /o/ having their closest score yet, is there a chance they get aesthetics?

Like, Twingo should at least have a friendly car front face.

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>>152763870
>that post
Oh my GOD

>>152754596
good luck famalam
it shouldn't be too hard to break out of fetus, at the very least, since some of the teams down there are currently unmanaged, and /his/, /g/, and /vr/ will drop if they don't get new management in time, so even fucking /t/ has a chance to move up

>A tear streams down his cheek as he presses the Update button again. He was determined not to lose against the brony menace that had been plaguing him for five years. Wiping his nose against his dry, sticky forearm, he updates the thread again. A (You) catches his eye. Someone has posted a picture of those dreaded faggot ponies again. A sob catches in his throat, followed by a high-pitched whine. Visions of those abominations came back to him. Nights of insomnia, self-harm, flashbacks, it all hurt him. Even though he was on medication to minimize the damage his PTSD was doing, every pony picture he saw hurt him. He went against the advice of his own doctor: "Stop using the computer". He didn't understand the war he was in: The war against bronies, and he would sacrifice himself to end the war.
>He stops himself from punching his cheek and gets down to work. As he clicks on each individual post number, another tear drops from his chin and onto his desk. Shakily, he tik-taks on the keyboard the words "Bronies, everyone". He longed for the days of an original comeback that wasn't projection or generalization, but the five years at war had taken a toll on his mind. He could hardly think straight. All that was on his mind was the war. He slowly lost weight, his vision diminished, and he sat, confined to his chair, for at least 12 hours a day. After six tries with the dreaded Captcha, he finally submits his post. He turns his chair around and stares at the framed photograph on the wall. The gold plating below, titled "Bronies, this is your mindset", reminded him of his idol, a man who had not given up the war.
>"Someday, we'll win," he whispers, touching the plating.

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>>152765503
The chance of that happening is 100%

>>152766978
Merci Twingo.

>>152765503
There's a certain charm to the lack of aesthetics.

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>>152763870
This site belongs to /mlp/ now.

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If PES 2017 is going to be so bad, we can always go back to the classics.

It even had an indoor football mode.

>>152771720
What's weird is that for 10-15 years in the US, indoor football was basically the only "professional" game we had. After the NASL died, and even the first few years of MLS when people thought there was a good chance it was going to crash and burn.

I guess it was inevitable. New /b/ manager reporting in.

>>152772089
The MLS has been a complete failure, a wildly profitable failure that will never die to boot.

t. twonky

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>>152772531

>>152755278
They deserve nothinh more than what their management has put into the team. Which right now is fuck all it turns out.

>>152766764
Classic

>>152772352
Will you actually update the roster or will it stay shit?

>>152772352
for real?

>>152757006

/o/ fucked up.

They figured out how to get a winning wombo combo and they barely changed anything about it. Literally through the whole cup, the most they did is like call for subs.

So when the horsefuckers figured out a counter to their strategy, they couldn't do jack shit, and LOST because they didn't have something to back their original strategy up.

I want Marqod to step down.

After his autistic outburst in from of 2500 people, this became the last straw for me.

I no longer feel he represents us.

>inb4 autism
-"us" refers to the fa/tg/uys of /tg/
-he constantly spergs out in the chat
-he and his buddies mismanaged /tg/, so they ended up getting knocked back to the babbies

He's a sperg and he's bad at managing.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out if he was a horsefucker, because there's definitely some overlap between the two boards.

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>>152758190
Fixed

I want Boris to step down.

After his autistic outburst in from of 2500 people, this became the last straw for me.

I no longer feel he represents us.

>inb4 autism
-"us" refers to the guys of /hr/
-he constantly spergs out in the chat
-he and his buddies mismanaged /hr/, so they ended up getting knocked back to the babbies

He's a sperg and he's bad at managing.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out if he was a horsefucker, because there's definitely some overlap between the two boards.

I want sHitbox chat to step down.

After their autistic outburst in from of 2500 people, this became the last straw for me.

I no longer feel they represents us.

>inb4 autism
-"us" refers to the guys of /trash/
-they constantly sperg out in the chat
-they and their buddies mismanaged /trash/, so they ended up getting knocked back to the memeboss tier

They're a sperg and they're bad at managing.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out if they were horsefuckers, because there's definitely some overlap between the two boards.

I want Lear to step down.

After his complete absence in from of 2500 people, this became the last straw for me.

I no longer feel he represents us.

>inb4 autism
-"us" refers to the guys of /4ccg/
-he constantly is completely absent
-he and his buddies mismanaged /w/, so they ended up getting knocked back to the babbies

He's a sperg and he's bad at commissioning.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out if he was a horsefucker, because there's definitely some overlap between the two boards.

>>152774932
No, the asterisk has its purpose. If it ever were to become official, it can only do so with the *.

If you post anything more than once in this general it will inevitably become pasta.

Prove me right.

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>>152766978
YES!

If you post anything negative towards the horsefuckers in this general, they will inevitably scream salt.

Prove me right.

>>152775649

Or you can not even bring them up which will cause them to leave because they thrive on the attention you morons give them.

>>152775814
It's a meme you dip

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>mfw the mlp 4ccg thread is much more civil and ubiased than this
really makes you think

>>152776096
It makes me think you have to go back.

>>152775814
>getting this salty for no reason
^:)

>>152776218
Too easy

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>>152776096
It was civil until the fucking /sdb/ fags showed up.

God, I hate /sdb/ so much.

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>>152758190
>>152774932
>being excited over asterisks*

>>152776470
It was almost /pnk/'s year but those cheating cunts had to ruin the tests for everyone AGAIN

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Fresh, hot autism incoming

Here is the normalized lifetime average performance of every team, updated to include the Summer results. Congratulations to /biz/ for no longer being the worst overall team of all time!

Other notable changes:
>after another elite QF finish, /asp/'s double choke on first place looks move secure than ever
>/mlp/ and /gd/ continue to march in lockstep, each moving up two places, though /mlp/ increased their margin by winning the big trophy
>/v/ becomes the first vidya board to ever reach column 1, bumping poor /g/ back to the Babbies
>/r9k/ is poised on the cusp of no longer being an Irredeemable Shitter
What a time to be alive.

>>152776504
I have no problem with that as an /m/ logo.

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>>152777195
And here, just for fun, is a graph of the normalized placement of every Elite cup winner over time.

>>152776096
>/mlp/ threads when /mlp/ is playing a cup
>Civil and ubiased
They literally hit a such lows i rather be in /4ccg/, at least here i get laughs and copypasta, not plebbitors asking when do we play.

>>152777797
You don't shit where you live, that's like the basics.

>>152778018
Even the Indians stick to that, to a degree.

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>>152777195
YAAAAAY GO /mlp/!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBptRVQ8qoE

>>152777195
What do these number represent? How were they generated?

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>>152777364
>/trv/ and /k/

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>>152778086
>watching /mlp/ slowly scraping buy closes and closer to the finals over the course of several hours

>>152777195
>/m/ in the elites
That's what I've been saying all this time.

/m/ appears bad because the team keeps getting promoted and demoted.

>>152777195
>/myteam/ is a irreadeemable shit
;-;

>>152777195
Can you make this fresh hot autism for the last four cups only?

>>152777278
I need better pacifiers though.

>>152778280
It's the average of the overall placement for each team at the end of each cup, normalized by the total number of teams competing that season - so the winning an elite cup is always 1, wooden spooning in a fetus, or babby if there is no fetus, is a 0.

As an example, at the start of this season there are 55 liv teams, 39 in the Babby Qualifiers + Babbies, and the 16 Elites. So /m/, when they won the Babby, was in 17th place, which gave them a normalized value of (55-17)/54 = 0.704 in Spring. Now they've come third, so they get a value of (55-3)/54 = 0.963 in Summer.

>invitational for new managers to try out PES and managing
>Smugleaf, CollieBro and Lark sign up
>lesbian metals sign up for the 60th invitational
Defeats the purpose doesn't it?

>>152779304
Should ban managers with at least a cup's worth of experience.

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Honk Honk

>>152779581
Prepare your hymen.

>>152779304
Nobody new joins because no one in their right mind would get involved in this shit show

>>152779983
Not after the horsefucker thing. Yeah.

>>152779304
Other sign up is the sacked /hanny/ manager

>>152779983
I just don't know how to make a team or aesthetics and I'm pretty lazy. I'd join otherwise.

>>152780087
I could coach you

>>152780087
This is what this is for

Go to irc and ask for help or check the wiki

>>152780065
>implying it wasn't anti-horsefucker sperging that caused this

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>>152780087
Legit jump on IRC or talk to me on Skype, and i'll help you get the ball rolling for Aesthetics and how to make a team on PES.

>>152779304
The point was that they'd be there as backups. There are people there that haven't managed and haven't been involved in a cup. I'd rather have them get the chance to manage than say "There aren't enough teams, fuck off".

Like I mentioned, it's not a first-come first-served signup, and they're all aware of that.

>>152754596
Good luck! I always liked /x/ and would love to see it play well.
May the eldritch gods lend you their power.

>>152780596
>Main managers has to pretend he is a new guy to appear they are recruiting new people.

>>152754689
And he posted an image of a deer monster - deers are ungulate mammals, just like a certain other creature...

HOW DEEP DOES THIS CONSPIRACY GO?

>>152780641
Might as well try, thanks SDA
I'll message you in an hour or so when I'm free if thats fine

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>>152781567
Reminder that I live in upside down land and i'll like to go to bed at some point in my life...

>>152781732
You can go to bed when you die, cunt

>>152781567
>taking aesthetics or management advice from SDA
Anon, I...

>>152781567
Word of warning, don't believe him when he tells you how you need a gold defender
two gold defenders are better

>>152779983

I'm actually going to sign up.

I'm currently making /ussr/ for the Multinationals, and need ideas for this thing.

I was thinking maybe /ttrpgs/ or something.

>>152781910
I am dominating /aus/ in tests with three middle defenders

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>>152781860
b-but that's not like for another 70 or so years...

>>152781876
My aesthetics have been crash free for years now.

>>152781910
You might as well try a 2-5-4 formation with that kind of talk.

>>152782065
Kitfag is the mastermind behind /aus/, I just make aesthetics and shitpost.

>>152782048
Enter /ussr/ in both

>>152782169
>That file name
I take offense on that

>>152782048
Isn't it too late to add teams to that cup?

>>152782169
SDA, can you reupload Harlock Final and Alex's gameplay patch somewhere else? pretty please?

>>152782321
Dag reopened

>>152782252

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

Although to be honest, I'm only participating so I can become a commentator.

Finally listening to the Fakkin Boolsheet tourney that I didn't even know happened (mostly so I can see just what it looked like when my awful meme export got curbstomped).

Kekkels is a funny commentator to listen to. Put him in autumn desu.

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>>152782542
Sure, i'll do that in a moment.

>>152757006
/o/ never even bothered to submit a single nightly export and ran their first export on default sliders for most of the cup.

>yfw that means /mlp/ truly did have /o/'s export and won the final because of it

>>152781732
That's fine, there's no rush. At the latest I'll be on tomorrow a bit earlier. I appreciate the help.

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>>152783101
Happy to help mate. That's what people should be doing anyway. I can wait for the hour, gives me time to finish other projects.

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>>152782542
Its done, check the wiki

>>152783016
DELET THIS

>>152782850
>Soumaru scoring 4 goals in one match against bronies
Seems apt desu

>>152777195
You are now aware that if we kept the top 48 teams on this list and killed the others permanently, we'd have #48teams and nothing of value would be lost.

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>Make a team
>Some players do not show up in the edit menu despite having the same file structure as others
>Sometimes the player on the kick-off prematch screen is invisible and menu rendering starts to freaking out so that only restarting the game can help

I assume those issues are connected. Anybody knows how to fix it?

>>152754596
good luck

>>152784750
>Sometimes the player on the kick-off prematch screen is invisible and menu rendering starts to freaking out so that only restarting the game can help
shit nigger what the fuck are you doing

>>152784750
you don't make a team, you edit an existing placeholder team

>>152784750
Do you have a broken blender model for one or more players, maybe?

>>152784565
actually
yeah, that would work

>>152784750
Did you make sure the IDs are correct?
What tool did you use to make the CPK?
Are the players hair set to default (i think it was)
Did you activate the CPK?

>>152784959
Models look fine during the match, and their .model files are open in blender just fine

>>152785062
Yes
CriPackedFileMaker.exe (no compression)
I guess? Where do I check it?
Yes

>>152784565
>keeping /diy/, /ic/, and /hr/
>scrapping /y/. /c/, and /out/

>>152780717
This, I actually asked if it was alright before putting my team in. Don't let the team limit scare you, jump right in!

>>152785328
>CriPackedFileMaker.exe (no compression)
Did you close it after making a CPK? it usually fucks up if you keep it open making other CPKs
>I guess? Where do I check it?
Edit->edit player->player->Hairstyle
I think, going from memory

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>>152760237
>Can't beat the horsefuckers so ban them
Stay salty lol

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>>152774932
If I recall, the first title was completely stricken, not asterisked. Get rid of it. The second title was asterisked.

>>152764871
I blame summer.

Once school starts, the faglets won't be here to bitch and moan about ponies.

>>152785771
do you think parents take away their kid's computer and phone when school starts?

>>152785557
>Did you close it after making a CPK?
Yes.

Thing about Edit menu, when I try to open it on selected invisible player, controls lock up and I can't do anything other than close the game

But logically hair settings should be fine, I mean most players work just fine

>pes
>logic

Will we ever see the saved replays from Summer or is that simply not happening?

>>152785954
>controls lock up and I can't do anything other than close the game
Remake the CPK, sounds like it got corrupted

>>152786148
It didn't work.
And they look fine during the match.
I just don't want them to break pes if any happens to appear on kick off screen

>>152786915
>And they look fine during the match.
Wait.
Do they have extra parts and not only heads?
Like Big O custom arms?

Glad to see /myboard/ has a manager again. Will there be a fetus even, I thought enough teams were dead that we didnt need one?

>>152787042
Whole team got a set of custom limbs, they are unchanged, just for skin colour purposes only.
I set up lines in xml, mtl, and all that, it "works"
Only problem are those 3 players that refuse to load in menus.
I guess I just remake them or something

>>152787051
assuming that /g/, /his/, /sci/, /cm/, and /fa/ stay dead a fetus won't be needed. I believe someone is in line for /g/

>>152787358
>custom limbs
Do the model files have Oral_ in their names? I think they need that or PES shits the bed in edit menu

>>152787839
Yes, they all do, they all work, even "broken" players, everyone got custom skin during the match

Man, I'm still so assblasted about this cup. It was just so shit to watch.

I think this thing really puts in perspective the whole issue of the cup being only allowed on /mlp/.

I think we need to have a serious discussion on how to approach this, because it's really just created a less than favorable environment, double the fact that it's taken some huge ass lure that attracts /mlp/ more than a board like /sp/.

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>>152788118
Then i have no idea, so lets blame PES being PES

Anyone have any experience modding Skyrim, and specifically with handling and unpacking "HKX" format files? Please reply if you do, your knowledge may be of use for PES16

>>152788502
/sp/ and /vg/ haven't gotten gud though

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>>152788512
Thanks for your time anyway.

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>>152752741
>Not putting the tentative autumn dates in the op

Baka desu

>>152729120

>>152789037
Everybody's so nice to you, but we never forget that you could have prevented this. It didn't have to be this way. You could have stopped this.

>>152777195
>/mlp/ and /gd/ continue to march in lockstep
I want the horsefucker conspiracy to go and stay go

So I'm considering getting into the aesthetics game but it's hell from what I'm seeing in the thread. How much can I do with just a laptop?

>>152789037
Don't listen to the guy below you, you are loved

>>152789326
Nigga with the way the defense was playing even if /f/ did get past /o/ I doubt /f/ would've beaten /gd/. The /f/ defense in PES 16 is horrendous

>>152790043
>defense in PES 16 is horrendous
In general, not just /f/

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>>152764871
I'd join but in no way I'm a beginner and not sure if I'd have the time. If you need more people in the next weeks, who knows.

Pic very much related.

>Hurr its PES fault

Just move to FIFA if you love it so much.
The problem isn't PES being PES.
The problem is that nobody ever thought about adapting the games to PES's updates.

PES16 does not work with the current player levels. Everyone is just too shit.
If you want the RNG and goalfestivals to stop - Start buffing the standard players. Those defense fuckups happen because their skill level is far too low now.

>>152790739
The problem are not the 77s, the problem are the golds. No single real player in PES is supposed to be all 99, but some people in the cup are absolutely against nerfing golds, citing boring matches (false) and playstyle degradation (debatable, but it's way better than PES is giving us right now).
Also, I'd love to give more cards to everybody, like real players in PES.

>>152754596
Good shit. Goatman for Gold when.

>>152790042
Pls respond

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>>152777195
Someone posted this on /mlp/ and I find it interesting. I know /k/ was back when winning was a lot more of a roll of the dice, but what's up with /trv/?

>>152777195
How do you quantify this? I have a similar list; Repost from last thread

Placements are determined by "seed". For example, despite winning a Babby Cup, /m/ only placed "17th" overall, as there were 16 teams in the elites who are at a higher "seed" than them.

This, unfortunately, has a punishing effect on new teams like /p/, but the entire Fifth Founding, despite being forced to play in at least one average-devastating fetus cup, is the 3rd-highest founding in terms of average placement.

>Average Placements of 4CC teams
1) 12 - mu
2) 14.25 - mlp
3) 15.75 - asp
4) 16.727 - wg
5) 17.154 - sp
6) 17.571 - ck
7) 19.083 - fit
7) 19.083 - tg
9) 19.154 - a
10) 19.455 - f
11) 19.7 - u
12) 20.077 - x
13) 20.182 - h
14) 20.727 - toy
15) 20.8 - gd
16) 20.889 - s4s
17) 21.929 - soc
18) 22.714 - wsg
19) 22.867 - b
20) 23.214 - tv
21) 23.733 - g
22) 23.786 - v
23) 24 - m
24) 24.25 - an
25) 24.538 - s
26) 24.667 - fa
26) 24.667 - pol
28) 24.923 - d
29) 25.857 - o
30) 26.111 - hr
31) 26.417 - int
32) 26.583 - n
33) 27 - e
34) 27.583 - lit
35) 27.636 - jp
36) 27.667 - co
37) 28 - cm
38) 28.8 - vr
39) 29.385 - k
40) 29.4 - cgl
41) 29.615 - sci
42) 30.333 - trv
43) 30.5 - ic
43) 30.5 - r9k
45) 31.214 - adv
46) 31.286 - vp
47) 32.667 - p
48) 33.727 - po
49) 34.1 - vg
50) 34.167 - i
51) 34.6 - w
52) 34.7 - y
53) 34.8 - gif
54) 35 - lgbt
55) 35.4 - hm
56) 36.625 - diy
57) 37.2 - c
58) 37.667 - 3
59) 37.75 - out
60) 39.5 - his
61) 42.2 - t
62) 43.333 - biz

When will this page be updated?

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Rankings

>>152792134
Never, pf. Your team killed the cup.

>>152790631
4chan ISSD Cup when?
4chan Ronaldinho Soccer 97 Cup when?

>>152792419
>ISSD only has space for 36 teams
Ok, so which teams should be in?

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>>152790739
>Just move to Fifa

Show us a test stream of Fifa with the 4cc blenders then. Until we see a stream of working aesthetics a move to Fifa will likely not be brought into consideration

>>152793015
>not mentioning the infinitely more relevant aspect of no crack

>>152793156
Who said that you need to use the most recent version?

>>152764871
I'd like to join, but first I need to get PES working.
All I get is a black screen whenever I start it up.

>>152793015
There actually are resources on how to make teams, kits, faces, stadiums and other shite on Feefur 16, however the guy who has the best tutorial on Youtube does mention in passing that if you modify a face too much the game will screw up badly. Also, Hair LoDs, light maps and other more bothersome details when confronted with PES16 make it very unlikely.
Although I want to try to make a team or two sometime, just for shits and giggles.
>>152793156
You can customize the FIFA16 demo so much it basically becomes the full game anyway.

>>152793015
I'd still like to see a 4cc on Fifa, even with nothing but placeholder bald men, just to see how bad its AI can get.
I mean it's not like it can be much worse than PES16 right

>>152791283
/trv/ got lucky in Winter 14, first cup to use PES14 before 1.12, by finding something that worked incredibly well and beat all the other teams handily.

Then they kept using the exact same thing every other cup afterward, everybody had figured out the meta of 14 and how to beat that formation, and they careened downward from there and haven't really managed anything better than what happened this year since.

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>>152777195
>>152791283
We'll get that star one day.
It's nice to see that /gd/ is statistically one of the best ever teams though, that makes me happy.

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>>152793756
>Figuring out the meta of PES
>Figuring out the meta of rolling a die

>>152794403
Think of it like this: you are allowed two options, either roll a die or place it with 1 up.

>>152787728
Did /vr/ already found someone to manage it?

>>152793015
And again this "we'd rather stay in this shit game that looks good instead of moving to this awesome game that would look awesome but we are too lazy to make it look awesome" meme.

>>152792856
The 32 elite/babby teams depending on which version of the cup it would run, a final boss, and 3 fuckaround teams?

Reminder that /mlp/ themselves said this cup doesn't count.

WHAT A THRILLLLLLL

WITH DARKNESS AND SILENCE THROUGH THE NIIIGHT

>>152794667
So if you aren't too lazy, get on it, m8.

>152794890
have a (you)

>people are taking the feefur meme seriously
It's like /p/ all over again.

>>152794667
I'm willing to stream a Feefur invitational if you convert (or find enough people to convert) at least 4 teams' worth of blenders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDA3dh-Y0do

Here you go, have fun. I'll do the rest.

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>>152795581
Are there only three conditions now?

>>152795581
>condition colors changed
Fuck that shit.

>>152787728
actually, we've been going over this today at /myteam/. All those teams dead is a 10 team fetus which means only the bottom 4 teams would take part and the top 2 go through. There's also /vr/ who's dead so it's a 9 fetus (which is the same as 10 but 3 go through) currently anyway.

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>>152794667
Nigga it's a simple request, how do you expect us to pull off the move if we don't know if what we've already got is compatible? I'm not saying we're on PES forever. I'm just saying until we see box heads, waifus, and all that other whacky shit we put into PES on Fifa we're probably not gonna think about it. So if you're this insistent on us moving show us Fifa can do what PES does. That's all I'm saying. I've seen the Fifa editor and I will say it does look snazzy but I don't wanna see screencaps of an editor I wanna see 4cc players on a pitch in Fifa. Then you'll probably change some tunes then.

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>>152794890

>>152791373
>/m/ only placed "17th" overall
I account for that, see here: >>152779078

And since I normalize placements by the total number of teams in a season, the punishing effect toward newer teams that played only in eras when much lower placement was possible is eliminated. Compare how much higher /p/ is ranked in my list, for example.

It's interesting to compare the results of the two systems, though.

>>152796263
>box heads, waifus, and all that other whacky shit
Easily expendable if (or rather, when) we get a fantastic game that actually works.

>>152795581
Konami confirmed for garbage.

>>152795581
>move over to feefur? please no, we'll move feefur over here instead

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>>152795581
>germany
>team not entirely muslims

>152796719
Nigga Smugleaf and the rest of /aesco/ are vehemently against the cup moving back to PES 15, a much more functional game that theoretically should be close to 16 in terms of aesthetics, because of said aesthetics alone.
Your shitposting is getting stale even for this general's standards.

>>152796719
> a fantastic game that actually works.
But you are suggesting Fifa instead of making our own football game with source

>>152790042
You can do everything.

>>152796671
Solid, desu.

>>152794403
What I meant was figuring out how to get the weighted diceroll to favor you

Like how generic 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 always work at least decently

Let's just put aesthetics into Rocket League.

Since you guys seem to like making up bullshit that'll never happen so much.

>>152797536
Now this is actually possible, we just need those assholes at Psyonix to unlock team colors that aren't red and blue.

>this cup was so shit the committee would actually seriously consider FIFA if it wasn't for the aesthetics
Let that sink in.

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>>152797826
>>this cup was so shit the committee would actually seriously consider FIFA if it wasn't for the aesthetics
No they wouldn't, but PES15 would be

Can /block/ just replace /co/?

>>152795710
Nope, that was just coincidence.
The colors go from deep red up to cyan.

My legs are dangling off the edge...

>>152795581
>faces on the menus
This is going to be either hilarious in our case, or completely fucked up. Or maybe both.
What the fuck is up with those condition arrows I don't want change FUCK YOU also RIPIP red and purple arrows

>>152798298
>Red is worse now
>Yellow is neutral
>Green is good
>Blue is best
This is going to be confusing

>>152799678
>changing something that has been consistent in all other versions of the game
for what purpose?

>>152799626
>>152795581
>Faces on the menus
That means /mlp/ matches are going to be banned from the whole site.
Konami is telling us to enforce GR15 in the cup.

>>152799809
simplicity to pander to normalfags

>>152795581
>no McBox
it's shit

>>152782169
SDA once I git gud at the meme magic of PES I challenge you and Kitfag!
/aus/ vs. /nzl/

>>152799978
Fuck off beb

>Not switching to Nintendo World Cup

Fucking plebs

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>>152799678
>>152799809
We'll look into reverting the colours

I have a PES question.
Do player cards actually DO anything? I mean it seems like given they are limited per player they can have a big impact on gameplay, but I don't see it addressed very often.

>>152801468
They allow >rape to cheat.

>>152801468
It's like sliders, we know they do SOMETHING, but we're still not sure what exactly.

>>152801468
>/diy/ with completely fucked up cards beat /sp/ 5-1 once
We just don't know.

>>152801710
To be fair, /sp/'s tactics for that game were terminally retarded

>>152801565
salt

>>152801468
Cards are nothing but a placebo.

t. lark
t. any /o/ manager

Gold players and so on should stay but they definitely need to get nerfed.

They should be better than the rest but not dominate the entire field. Personally i would recomment downgrading them from 99 to 85

>>152802168
>14 point downgrade for golds
That's some pretty huge compression

>>152802168
they don't dominate the field. they're just as likely to do retarded shit as any other player on the field. nerfing them will only make games harder to watch

Consider the following:

80/88/96 so the stat difference between all players is a constant and much less overwhelming 8.
Track Back and Low Lofted Pass cards banned for being overpowered and generally making the defense in PES 16 even more useless.
No fan-made patches that fuck with the AI in ways that we may or may not know.
Perhaps trying out 1.05 too.

>>152802018
so /mlp/ would have been fine with an extra card on >rape?

>>152791175
>false
Prove it then, test shit or slit enough of the throats of other rules council members until they listen

>>152797826
Haha, NO.

FEEFUR spaghetti is amusing the first few times, but it gets REALLY tiresome very quickly. I've played it for more hours than I'd like to admit.

>>152801604
So everyone gives random skill cards and hope they work?
There are also different playing styles and it might be interesting to hear the commentators mention something like that.

>>152802942
>There are also different playing styles and it might be interesting to hear the commentators mention something like that.
This would actually be an interesting void-filler for the really slow passing games. I'd love to hear this for the future cups.

>>152802463
>Track Back and Low Lofted Pass cards banned for being overpowered and generally making the defense in PES 16 even more useless.
Track back is a defensive card you utter moron

>>152802463
>Track Back and Low Lofted Pass cards banned for being overpowered and generally making the defense in PES 16 even more useless.
lmao

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>>152802942
>Commentators actually learning who in the teams is an offensive full-back and who is the defensive one.
Fuck that, it's boring and too much work. They do it for free.

>>152803087
Track back was a striker playstyle until PES14 and there's absolutely no reason to assume it's not still an offensive card

>>152802463
>banning specific cards
for what purpose?

>>152802942
most people give cards based on their tiny human brain's 'knowledge of PES'
ascended gods like maydave and fabia random.org their cards

>>152803087
Which is why several teams in the cup have them on strikers, right?

>>152803103
You know it's true. Low Lofted in particular triggers short longballs that are nigh-unavoidable and usually result in sure goals.

>>152803453
>a card can't be defensive because it's on a striker

>>152802942
That would actually be pretty cool and would sound "professional". A color commentator bringing little facts about the players can bring life to some of them.

>>152803296
Except, you know, the pes description for it

Ban dribbling cards, nobody uses them anyway

>>152801468
Don't listen to this guy >>152801604

What the cards do are pretty obviously stated in-game.

Try to play a game with an LMF without Box-to-Box, then again with Box-to-Box. You'll notice a much more tired player in the second game.

>>152803663
>An offensive player who actively pressurises the opposition player who is on the ball and tries to win it back.

>>152801305
Have a (You)
This made me kek

>Super-sub: Improves player's abilities when introduced late in the game.
Best card.

>>152803663
"An offensive player who actively pressurises the opposition player who is on the ball and tries to win it back"

>>152804150
>>152804091
Yeah, it makes an offensive player (like a striker or amf) track back and defend more. It does nothing offensively.

>>152802942
commentators are not eager to talk about cards or playstyles because of few reasons. One, already mentioned, preparing for each match by checking up all cards and styles in the editor would be tedious. Two, they might not know what do those cards or styles do. Third, they might know, but as active managers are not very happy about spouting their experiences and observations to everyone. This is why so many people in the chat treat conditions like it's a heaven or hell difference and nothing else matters - because this is only visual clue they have.

>>152803979
Box-to-box is a playing style.
He's talking about skills - like picking something like a Low Lofted Pass over Weighted Pass is a diceroll.

>>152803216
Dirtmund, Benfica
Uefalona, Plastic City
Napoli, Sporting
PSG, Brugge SEVILLAWINSEUROPALOL
Buyern, Fatletico
Porto, Juventus
Neverkusen, Basel
Halal Madrid, M'gladbach

>>152804473
Oh lel whoops my bad.

But yeah, I'd say that you see teams like /ddg/ use Low Lofted Pass to huge benefit, and it's probably just as much a diceroll as anything else is going to be in-game.

>>152804332
It lets strikers bully the poor, mentally deficient defenders who often don't know what a clearance is off the ball, giving them a 1-on-1 with the keeper or letting them extend a siege.

>>152804473
>picking something like a Low Lofted Pass over Weighted Pass is a diceroll.
Do people really think this? You can't seriously play the game and say "oh I never see those cards I picked". This "everything is a diceroll" attitude is just a massive excuse.

>>152804332
That's not necessarily true in the grand scheme of things. It can absolutely bolster the teams attack and do nothing for your defence.

>>152804678
But that's still a defensive and not an offensive improvement.
And guess what? That happens in real football too. The game isn't two teams just giving each other turns to attack you know.

>>152804150
In real divegrass, tracking back is a defensive thing. Telling an offensive player to track back means that he is supposed to come back and try to help out the defense instead of just lying around the opposition's box for 90 minutes

I want real life SOCCER to go.

>>152804686
Everything is a dice roll to one extent or another, that's pretty much the only way this game's code could work, cards and tactics are just trying to weight the dice rolls in your favour. Without really knowing which rolls are being weighted.

Daily reminder that Pep will win another star for City

>>152804976
>stop talking about football in a thread about a football video game

Wow, now I know that the players are actually different in more than aesthetics and a number representing their skill.
It almost makes me appreciate the work the managers do.

>>152804863
Not when used on AMFs and strikers. At that point it's almost an offensive card that lets you apply ridiculous amounts of pressure on the defense and then immediately start another attack, and as I have said, the defenders are retarded enough already - they need all the help they can get.

>>152804997
No, cards and tactics do very specific things

>>152805259
>At that point it's almost an offensive card that lets you apply ridiculous amounts of pressure on the defense and then immediately start another attack
Well yeah, if you set the pressing to aggressive then your players will naturally try to go for a Poop style >counterpressing. If you park the bus then track back forces the player to drop back and defend instead

>>152805063
>I don't know how stars work

>>152805280
Can you seriously tell me that there is actual decision to be made between "Enables players to execute trick1" and "Enables players to execute trick2"?

>>152805563
Yes, for example weighted pass and long range drive are objectively better than flip-flap and rabona

>>152805527
Track Back makes it way more effective though, and the skill gap between golds and 77s makes the latter even more vulnerable.

why don't we just buff defensive stats on defenders?
For example, clearing. How often do you see a CB try to clear a ball out of the box but ends up putting right into a player resulting in a goal against? It confuses me as to why everyone is thinking of ways to make unrelated things worse instead of making the bad things better

>>152805104
REEEEEEEEE
this is /vg/ not /sp/!

>>152805280
Yeah. Which doesn't at go against what I said. You still don't know which dice being rolled in any segment are being affected. Only that you have a higher chance at a specific outcome/action happening. Cards and tactics are abstractions.

Two players meeting on the field probably has a fuckton of dice rolls in it's decision tree. Some would be affected by a particular card/tactic, some wouldn't.

>>152805751
Meaning we see less cool player tricks and more general and less exciting accurate passes.
By the way does it mean a player with no flip-flap card can't execute it ever?

If all the EPL managers came and managed a team, who would do best? Pep? Mourinho? Ranieri?

>>152806026
>By the way does it mean a player with no flip-flap card can't execute it ever?
No, it just makes it even less likely that they'll execute it. By the way, a gold player with a dribble card will seldom execute said dribble, and they may not work when they do use it, so it's a waste.

>>152805751
>objectively better
There's still no decision to be made then, but for a different reason.

>>152806139
Wenger :^)

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>>152804513
Another one

>>152806321
Wenger fucking out t b h

>>152806321
fuck off wenger

>>152806397
ThisKillsTheEngland.png

>>152806139
K L O P P P O

>>152806656
you mispelled Flopp :^)

alone and depressed
wat do

>>152806585
You would expect every english team to get out of those groups though.

>>152807070
install gentoo

>tfw I have a giggle when I see EPL teams crash and burn in CL and EL

>>152806139
Mike Phelan

>>152806656
you mispelled Clop ^:)