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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>Previous
>>152602380
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We here now baby
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Yorshka's fluffy tail.
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can anyone help me in anor londo
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i really fucking despise thread wars but i hope this one wins
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>>152652354
starting up my n64 etc. etc.
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>>152652354
which one
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>>152652401
the place wit the silver dudes
please nd thanks
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man, I really hope the DLC has some quality levels with good weather effects

im going to cry if it doesnt
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xth for shitposting keeperfu
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>BKGA
>hypermode drop attack
>host has sliver of health left
>backstabbed by phantom
FUCK
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>>152652468
sorry I don't have dark souls 1 for gameboy color
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>>152652535
made for fucking
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>ded gaem ded general
DLC
WHEN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>152653132
tomorrow
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>>152653206
>tomorrow
Is the announcement (probably)
Release might have to wait until October or some shit

Maybe I should buy sotfs to pass the time
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Silver Knight weapons when?
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>>152653132
later than you think
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>use seed
>enemies don't aggro against pale shade
10/10 GOTY
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>>152653351
>1231
Are you on NG+50 or something
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How to git gud with fume UGS in ds2?
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>>152653351
great, I absolutely despise that rape alley, now I can just have him clear the way
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LONDOR IS A SHITHOLE
YURIA IS A WHORE
KAATHE IS A JEW
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>>152653396
you take estoc in left hand and use it instead
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>>152653518
just fyi, if you kill the pilgrim near anri then proceed without rubbing yuria's face in it, the shade will not spawn and you'll have to do the level twice

>>152653395
ng++
hasn't been bad so far but i'm not looking forward to pontiff and beyond
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>>152653709
oh I always kill Yuria after spawning the shade in farron keep for the gesture, then kill the shade at farron keep and then again at irithyll for the armor
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>>152653584
CARTHUS STRONK

LOTHRIC WE WAR YOU
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SEX
WITH
_____
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So, what if Velka and Gwynevere are the same person?
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>>152654389
we'll never know thanks to that book
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>>152654347
you
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>>152654347
Great Machete
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Yanno I heard somewhere that a torch releavs the invisible hags. That is a bold faced lie
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>>152654938
>releavs
Reveals**
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What are all the good tools for hunting down running hosts?

I was thinking of being a shitcunt and using Black Serpent with minmal reqs, but it's mostly only good against people side-strafing you, though I suppose it can also punish estus. There's also the possibility of using Washing my Pole and spamming the running attack. I'd suggest bows, but they're pretty whatever.
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what upgrade should I use for quality in das1
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>>152655056
>hunting down running hosts
lothric knight spear running attack
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>>152655056
I find halberds running attack has some quite bullshit range when using them to chase down running hosts or invaders
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>>152655056
Arbalest with exploding arrows.
~250 damage per hit, fast, immense range, small aoe.
God i love DS3 crossbows.
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>>152655056
rapier or katana running attacks

>>152655223
the standard one
ie +15
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>>152655056
Fire bombs.
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>>152655398
Why not crystal?
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>>152655258
I've used that before and not only can it be inaccurate since it must be aimed, it eats your stamina like a whore. Fucking WHY. Normal spear running attacks are damn good though.

>>152655395
Sounds rad. In fact, I might actually basically do an Alva cosplay, using Murakumo and Arbalest for the large-reach anti-ganksquad CGS moveset and chug punishing.
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>>152654389
>velka has int based damaging miracles
>gwynevere has fai based healing miracles
Nah, velka is the pygmy
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>>152655682
Cant repair Crystal, if it breaks you're done
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>>152655682
If you're willing to farm darkwraiths for 10 years or cheat and you have a non once-per-ng weapon, go for it
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>>152655682
because you only get like 3 slabs per NG, farming them takes years and crystal stuff can't be repaired

it is better THEORETICALLY though
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>slap on havels +2 ring
>best armor i can equip to stay under 70%
>gives just over 20% reduction

>take off havels+2 and put on steel protection +2
>equip rags that let me stay under 70%
>28% reduction
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>Crystal things eventually break permanently

So that's why all the INTfags in the canon always go nuts over time
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>>152656070
the only way to use crystal efficiently is to change with CE the durability every time the weapon is about to break and not everyone can be arsed with that
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>>152656280
Or you can have a bunch of them in your inventory?
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>>152656280
one use is that +4 crystal is better than +15, so it saves you slabs if you just want to try something out without a huge commitment
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>>152656212
RoSP is nerfed in PvP though
The armour will probably be more effective outside of PvE
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I hope they bring back my armorfu in the DLC. I love this so much I would level VIT to wear it.
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>>152656416
vit needs a buff, the amount of investment is too much for heavy weapons even if you wear light armor
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>>152656364
but if you're not gonna cheat or use mule and want multiple of...let's say a kumo which is one per playthrough you're gonna have to spend a lot of time and resources just for some more damage, that's why crystal isn't really worth the fatigue
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>>152656416
Yeah. Syan's and throne defender/watcher sets were the best imo. But I also liked Raime's armor with bone skirt.
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>>152656452
Not that much though, just make it 1.5 per level instead of 1 and you'll already free up a ton of points
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>>152656497
I would rather they buff heavy armor and leave VIT as it is
Make it so that you can choose to sacrifice damage output to be tanky as fuck as opposed to simply slapping more armor on your quality build
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GUYS I STILL DON'T GET IT. WHY IS LOTHRIC CONSIDERED A LORD OF CINDER IF HE DIDN'T LINK THE FIRE ???????????????
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>>152656474
Yeah but anon was talking about cheating, increasing the durability is cheating you need to do every now and then instead of once all together. Keep in mind that cheating things is as easy as selecting them on the menu with a good table
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>>152656416
>rpg looking armor
>ds3
m8 that's like asking for fun in ds3
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>>152656540
>buff heavy armor
nah
they would just mean carthus and estoc users now wear havels while ultra weapon users are still in rags, making the game even shitter
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A fucking angel. I am so in love with her.

She's too pure for this world, /dsg/.
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>>152656638
a literal babies face
not a young face, a babies
attached to an elongated fridge torso, and gangkly emaciated limbs

she's disgusting
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>>152656638
Too ugly for this world too. She looks like an ayy lmao
>>152656627
GIVE
STR
OVER
FORTY
EXTRA
EQUIP
LOAD
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I miss DarkSoulsMindsEye
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>>152656416
It looked horrible in its own game and hopefully will never appear again, i'd rather see unused heavy sets.
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DLC had better be within a fortnight of the announcement at the very most or I might just throw a tantrum.
Replaying the base game again and it's boring as fucccck.
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>>152657023
DS2 broke him.
It broke all good uploaders in general and now we're stuck with memespouting garbage.
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>>152656212
But the heavier armor also adds elemental defenses, bleed, curse, poison, and frost resistance. And poise :^)
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>>152656410
>nerfed in PvP though
What a concept. Is there anything DaS3 does right?
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Tomorrow?
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>>152657130
>DS2 broke him.
In what way?
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>>152657185
You can press R2 while running to perform a jumping attack.
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>>152657185
>Aldrich Ruby/Saphire does not work at all
Epic
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>>152657253
Just watch his DS2 videos and see how uninspired they are compared to DS1. He stopped uploading shortly after its release so it's obvious he wasn't that much of a fan.
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>>152657258
It makes Crystal Lizard hunting trivial
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>>152657185
It has a pretty good OST
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>>152657339
Fair enough, I guess. DaS2 isn't to everyone's liking.
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>>152656853
>>152656919
FUCK YOU
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>>152657359
Abyss Watcher, Princes and SoC/ Gwyn: Redux are pretty great. What else?
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>>152657445
Neo-Kirk please go
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>>152657130
Uploaders generally have only a short timespan where they are good, soon after they always get lazy or stop uploading in general.
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>>152657476
The deacons' theme is super dope yo.
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>>152657534
he was uploading ds1 for at least two years and delivered a good amount of content
then ds2 came out
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>>152657185
Basically everything if you compare it to both DS1 and DS2 in the same time after release.
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>>152657476
I like Vordt's theme a lot
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>Had a dream about a Souls idol game

What the fuck is wrong with me
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>invading some chinese on dark souls 2

Better connection than fucking russians how is this possible
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>>152658617
These are gonna be the best meme tshirts yet!
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>>152658667
Show me a single thing that could possibly top this one
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>>152657594
I wouldn't chalk it up to Dark Souls 2 coming out. There's way more stuff in people's lives going on than being disappointed by a game.

Like I said, uploaders usually have only a short time where they upload regularly and provide good content, 2 years is certainly on the upper end on that scale but my point still stands. It's the usual thing that happens in most communities.
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>>152658617
I can't wait for them to announce the official Dark Souls 3 mobile app!
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will the DLCs save DS3 or only make things worse?
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>making a protest thread just because Lucifer made the first one
I get that when he makes one early, but this is just childish.
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>>152659470
lol get fucked
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>>152659470
>Posting in a thread made by a guy 90% of /dsg/ has filtered because they are good citizens
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>>152659470
>encouraging unsolicitated tripfaggotry
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The DLC is gonna be shit, and deep inside you fucking know it too
It hurts
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>>152660220
I don't.
DS2 was garbage and worse than 3 and there was no indicator that the DLCs would be any different, yet they were mostly really good.
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>>152660220
There is no way it can be worse than 2's DLCs
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I wonder what a restored Storm Ruler would look like
I wonder what a restored Wolnir's Holy Sword would look like
I wonder what a restored Dancer's Twinblades would look like unless they looked like skellingtons from the beginning
Man why the fuck is everything broken and rusted and corroded in this game
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>>152660543
Wolnir's sword looks very cool though
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>>152660376
What the hell is wrong with you
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>>152660376
it probably won't from a lore perspective, but you can never fucking know with the bosses
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Can we get some real bosses in the DLC? I mean, you could cheese everything in one or two attempts, summons or no. Nothing was on par with Ornstein and Smough, let alone the original dlc fights. I mean shit, even fume knight was a bigger pain in the dick than anything in 3 thus far.

If they put that much cinematic effort into nameless king, every major fight in the dlc needs to top it in some way. Otherwise, they might as well let Tanimura take the reigns and give us another Duel Souls.

>I just want to rollerskeet and toss niggas in lava.
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>>152660761
>O&S
Really? Beat them on my second try
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>>152660761

When will people get that O&S are a meme? They are the only slightly difficult boss in the first Dark Souls 1 boss and most people here started with that game, they remember O&S as a tough boss fight when in reality they are just as easily cheesed as anything else. Would your first game be 3 and 1 your last, you wouldn't think much of O&S.
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>>152660614
The quality of the DLCs seems to almost always be proportional to the quality of the base game, and 2's DLCs were by far the worse ones.
While I doubt it'll do much good for PvP (unless the huge DLC patch helps), it might fix the actual shit things we have.

>>152660749
Funny, I think the opposite, I'm scared of how much fanservice they'll shove in. I'm not that picky about lore, but don't want them to force stuff too much
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>>152654389
Doubtful because :
Velka and Gwynewere exist in the same timeline i.e there are Velka worshippers and Gwyn worshippers in the same "continuity" of Dark Souls. Gwynewere isn't an unknown entity in the lore, the lore on her says that she went on to marry Flame god Flann and had many children.

Velka is thought to have kept watch over the Painted world (the statues that are in the Painted World can be probably with some certainty said to represent Velka now that we know a bit about her likeness through the statue and they aren't similar to Gwynewere.)

Now, Gwyn's wife is a mystery, but Gwynewere is pretty clear cut not Velka.
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>>152660761
>you could cheese everything
The real problem lies with things that let you cheese everything, like raw ASS or GCFO. These two crutches, along with horrible estus system, trivialize every single encounter, with the exception of memeless king
But I agree, none of the bosses are as good as biggie smalls or sir Alonne
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>>152660984
Nah, the DLCs of 2 were good. Just don't do the co-op areas alone because they're not even worth the trouble reward-wise
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>>152661060
You can also cheese NK or O&S by either using the avelyn strat since NK has the speed of a DaS 1 boss or using the pillars since Ornstein loves bugging on them.
Bugging Ornstein was so common with the first patches I even did it accidentaly
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>>152661060
Take those nostalgia goggles off
O/s is a joke compared to newer bosses
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>Invade into a 3v1 as a Rosaria's Finger
>Heysel also invades
>She attacks me instead of the host + phantoms
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>>152661642
>heysel believes in camaraderie between fingers
MIYAZAKI THE LEAST YOU COULD DO WAS BE CONSISTENT
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>just found out that you can visceral attack the dancer

Aaaaaand I'm diamonds.
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>>152661826
What? How? She never stunned for me.

Is it on the ass?
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>>152661926

She stuns for like half a second sometimes but I never thought you could do a visceral on her
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>>152661642
>Heysel has infinite estus if you invade as a watchdog and she locks onto you
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>>152661926
You need to do enough damage directly to her head. I randomly found it out while spamming vestiges at her and was quite pumped when I heard the "THWOOMP" sound.

The face is good enough

>>152662129
She has two stagger animations. the normal one applies whenever you do enough poise damage to her.
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>>152660984
Dark Souls 2 DLC was amazing you dingus.
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40 magic and fire absorption with dragontooth and speckled stoneplate+1
surely ng++ pontiff will be manageable now

r-right guys?
i don't look forward to this
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>>152662264
Better than AotA and TOH? No
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>>152661826

>When you stab giants in the head, you cut their brain out and pieces of it fly away
Their brain is pretty tiny
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HAPPENING

The first downloadable add-on for Dark Souls III will launch for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC in Japan on October 25 for 1,200 yen, the latest issue of Weekly Famitsu reveals.

A Season Pass including the first and second downloadable add-ons will also be available for 2,000 yen. Buying it will also get you a PlayStation 4 custom theme.

The first add-on includes weapons such as a large sword cloaked in colorless flames, cold storm-like magic, and miracles such as a ring of light that you throw like a boomerang. It will also have a new player-versus-player map called “Immortal Arena.”
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if pontiff sillyvahn was Lothric's teacher and the one who convinced him not to link the fire, why?

if the fire was linked, wouldn't that mean irithyll would continue to exist? what's his problem with that?
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>>152662338
AtoA wasn't that good honestly
the areas were all incredibly mediocre
good bosses though
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>play 200 hour the first 14 days
>last played 23-05-2016 (251 hours total)
>hasn't touched the game after that
did anything change?
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>>152662408
>such as a large sword cloaked in colorless flames, cold storm-like magic, and miracles such as a ring of light that you throw like a boomerang
I'm betting thats like 40% of the content it'll have
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>>152662408
legit site?

http://gematsu.com/2016/08/dark-souls-iii-first-dlc-launches-october-25-japan
>2 fucking months away
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>arena in DLC
NOOOOOOO
WHYYYY
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Jesus sommersaulting Christ, the Watchdogs of Farron's coventant is more dead that the Blades of the Darkmoon.

Is there any kind soul out there with a spare Wolf Ring they're not using?
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>>152662408
>It will also have a new player-versus-player map called “Immortal Arena.”
Sounds gay, thankfully it's fake.
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>>152662535
>you want honorabru dueru? better pay up, filthy ashen one
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>>152662408
>a large sword cloaked in colorless flames
It's going to be a quality weapon I'm calling it right now
>cold storm-like magic
is going to be an AOE as useful as divine pillars
>a ring of light that you throw like a boomerang
will do less damage than a great lightning spear while costing more because it's an AOE like emit force
>Immortal Arena
will be ignored because half the people won't buy the DLC so pontiff will always be the pvp spot
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>>152662408
>It will also have a new player-versus-player map called “Immortal Arena.”
fuck noo pleease not again
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>>152662514
>famitsu
Just wait for scans or google 2ch if you don't belive
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>>152662452
>play 200 hour the first 14 days
That averages 14 hours in a day.
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>>152662612
Arenas should never exist. Here's hoping it has DaS matchmaking
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>>152662723
Why the fuck not? Provided they don't have content locked behind them like ds2, it keeps the duelists away from random invaders
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>>152662712
yes, yes it is
however the first 5 days i only slept for 4 hours each.
i stopped when i realized i couldn't focus anymore
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>>152662408
If they add an arena they better fix invasions while they're at it
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>>152662408
>October 25
Fuck, guess I'll start NG++ then
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>>152662336
>trying to tank a ng++ boss
nah, you should just get some bleed weapon
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Holy fuck it's not difficult
>allow red soapstone signs (only red, no other kind) to be placed down on boss arenas
>once the boss is defeated, you can summon these red soapstone signs
>the boss arena is already sealed by fog walls so neither opponent can run

PLEASE why can't they do this, it fixes so many issues
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>>152662535
I have a terrible feeling that this arena IS the first DLC, if this is literally all that leaked from famitsu
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>>152662843
We should never make room for those faggots. Look at what happened in 2-3, most stuff that changed was for duels instead of PvE/invasions and now those faggots are in too big of a number
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>>152662535
>arena instead of blue orb
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>>152662918
famitsu scans today so we will see
this part
>The first add-on includes weapons such as a large sword cloaked in colorless flames, cold storm-like magic, and miracles such as a ring of light that you throw like a boomerang
screenshoots
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Where's that Souls announcement, fampais?
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Alright, poison build memer from yesterday here to announce HOSTING DS3 FIGHT CLUB
Platform: PC
Location: High wall of lothric (Put signs on the wooden platform)
Rules: Don't be a dick (Attack me or others who aren't dueling for example) and I will add others if there is a demand for them from anons.
I will be streaming as well in order to make webms later (I'll put the stream link in if someone asks but don't want to attention whore otherwise, it should be very easy to find on twitch though)
I'll be hosting for quite some time unless something unexpected pops up and if you have any suggestions or questions please ask since this is the first time I've hosted.
Sorry for boring location
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>>152662918
>this arena IS the first DLC
I'm never purchasing another from soft game if they pull this
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>>152663006
>being so new
Just read thread
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>>152662942
Are you familiar with the concept of a containment board? Same principle
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>>152663023
Shit password is dsg
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What is your problem with them adding an arena? Just don't use it, it's not like the game will literally force you to use it to advance in a covenant like 2 did it.
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>>152663023
Dunno if now is a good time, but good luck anyway
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>>152662535
it will free the Pontiffs from duel shitters making it a full dedicated gank arena
i'm fine with it
duel faggots should be contained all in one place
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Everytime I see the rolls in DS3 I get fucking cancer jesus christ what was miyahacki thinking the mad fuck
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>>152663023
>high wall
fuck that
new location: undead settlement, first bonfire
place signs on the stairway catwalk thing and fights will take place on the flat surface below with the dogs and the hollows
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>>152663104
It's can be DS2 arena 2.0
All my fears
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>>152662843
>Why the fuck not?
Different guy but the existence of arenas encouraged etiquettefaggotry which has caused people to act like invasions should follow arenafaggotry rules.

In addition, creating an arena is taking away from the PvE content that I'm playing these games for, not shit that panders to the cancerous Twitchfag streamers and shitters who want to prove they're "gud" in a digital game of rock'em-sock'em robots.
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>>152662427
If you think of AotA as essentially another Lord Soul, it has the best areas in the second half of DaS.

Compare Oolacile Township to Duke's Archives, Tomb of the Giants, Lost Izilith and drained New Londo: in my opinion it is by far the best map design.
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>>152663132
Why do you have to ruin things anon :(
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>>152663164
>creating an arena is taking away from the PvE content
Come on. Arena is jsut arena.
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>>152663146
No it can't be, because red eye orb exists and dorkmoons just suck dick with no orbs whatsoever
At least it won't be locking invasions behind the duels
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>>152663091
See how well that worked in 2. You give these guys just a little room and they already try taking it over.
How many times an invasion happens and the other guy bows or runs into an arena like area? This happened in 2 too because we wouldn't punish those faggots.
If it were me, even RSS would be gone
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>>152663164
Etiquettefaggotry was in 3 since day 1 and was in Dark Souls 1 before the DLC with the arena came. It will always exist. You can just ignore it and kick their asses, unfortunately you can't do it while they are gesturing anymore.
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>>152663146
>inb4 it's actually DS1 arena but fixed, with fun maps and deathmatch mode
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>>152653309
Don't.
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So arena is unvoidable. All we can do is hope for DS1 tier arena and good balance. Or 3x3 fights
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>>152663104
>What is your problem with them adding an arena?
Because all effort to making an arena are wasted effort and an excuse to deprive us of good PvE content because "well there's muh arena, that's your dlc content fuck you!".

The DLCs are the last hope for people to get good PvE content that adds to the replayability and arenas are completely dogshit fodder that will feature shitty pvp in a boring arena but them adding it will detract from the overall good content of the game instead of adding to it.

>Just don't use it, it's not like the game will literally force you to use it to advance in a covenant like 2 did it.
Remind me again how much people used the DS1 arena? If there are no rewards, noone's going to bother with it and they'll just continue ganking at Pontiff's.
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>arena level ranges
>1-100
>101-200
>201-400
>400+

Can you imagine how amazing the shitstorm would be?
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>>152663417
they better give you fully customizable ranges
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>>152663410
>making an arena are wasted effort and an excuse to deprive us of good PvE
Jsut stop. You can make arena in one day. It's not rocket science
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>>152663023
Alright I realised I didn't include SL either, I'll try posting again later on today and hopefully not be a retard and when people are actually online.
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>>152663164
On the contrary, granted the existence of an arena and confronted with such etiquettefags, you can kindly tell them to fuck off to the arena. It doesn't take away PvE content because people who invade to fuck you up without honorshit still exist
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>faith will get a light chakram miracle as its equivalent of farron dart/fire surge
>it will be highly powerful simply because of hyperarmor WA allowing you to literally spam that thing
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GRAVELORD COVENANT HD VERSION PLS FROM
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so where is the FC now
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>>152663626
Nito is dead, man. Let it go.
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>>152663626
This. Gravelording is a fantastic concept that deserves to be done justice.
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>>152663236
>Come on. Arena is jsut arena.
No it's not. To you and me it doesn't seem like that big of a deal, but in actual game development they're going to have to sink production hours into it, it's going to take development time to get working and it's going to occupy space in the game world that could be used for meaningful PvE content instead.

Additionally, if an arena is put in, the devs consider the amount of time people put in that as "content", so the PvE side of the DLC will have less effort put into it.
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>>152663626
>implying anyone working on DS3 besides Miyazaki even remembers that gravelords were a thing
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>>152663273
There is no way to punish etiquettefaggotry anymore and it's too easily encouraged. See how easily you can find a nice wide open area pratty much almost everywhere, whereas, say, if I was invaded somewhere like Sen's, BT or TotG, no way in hell I'd do anything but run away or kill the guy, because those areas didn't try in the slightest to encourage you and if he actually bowed I just got a free backstab.

>>152663568
>you can kindly tell them to fuck off to the arena

You should know this doesn't really work.
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>>152663249
That's because of how shitty the arena in ds2 was
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>>152663626
>BB had a covenant in the dlc that was literally nothing
can't wait for more myazaki brilliance
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>>152663695
>besides Miyazaki
Seeing how Nito is the only lord not mentioned at all, I think Miyahacki forgot too
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>>152663695

Miyazaki remembering it is enough for it to happen
But that would be the first time they add a new covenant with a DLC, I doubt it
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>>152663752
>free covenant that gives you the best gesture in the game to stomp make contact memers
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>Hidetaka Miyazaki revealed that the downloadable content for "Dark Souls 3" will bring something different to the game

really makes you think...
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>Covenant that able to summon white/sun phantoms in your world and kill them
>they can ignore passwords
NO ONE IS SAFE
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>>152663785
aldrich uses a spectral ravelord sword
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>>152663956
All I have seen him use is a spectral lifehunt scythe
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>>152663519
>You can make arena in one day. It's not rocket science
They're not going to just shit out an arena in one day, it's going to occupy at least the half of the amount of time as making a similar-sized PvE environment would because designing the environment, doing the planning and texturing work for the environment itself, then balancing and testing the mechanics and the gameplay of the arena, all of this takes time and effort a lot more than just "lol, shitting it out in a day!".
And all of this is for naught because it is designed to please Twitchfags who think Dark Souls is an esport.

>>152663568
> It doesn't take away PvE content because people who invade to fuck you up without honorshit still exist
It's misuse of development time.
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>>152663946
mound makers should do that by default desu
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>>152664002
it's on the tip of his catalyst, permanent until he dies
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>>152664002
therefore it doesn't exist, right?
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What if the DLC arena rewarded you for winning with new gestures ?
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>>152664034
>>152663946
what a dumb fucking idea
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>>152664034
>host can switch to WoB mid invasion
>white phantoms can't switch to MM and kill the host
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>>152664151
>it gives you the edgiest mock gestures in series
>can try it on defeated opponents as they are fading away right when you receive them
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>>152664151
The DLC arena will reward you with all the new content being added as you rack up wins, there is no single player component this time
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>>152664143
No, therefore I haven't seen it
Now I've seen it
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>>152664151
what if you could make your own gestures
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>>152664151
Or, or, the DLC arena rewarded you with a buttfuck from your opponent so you two can be faggots together?
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>>152664187
Why?
>sun/white phantoms can put signs everywhere
>they don't cares if boss dead or not
>THEY DON'T lose souls after death
>gank squad mambo jambo
Fuck you.
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>>152664307
but you're already rewarded with that the second you opt to be matched for arena
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>>152663542
Goddammit and i just fired up the game
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>pyromancers and hexers will get a magical dark flame weapon
>sorcerers are now aoe cryomancers
>priests get their own fast spammy attack that also returns back to them
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Post fashion
Rate fashion
What weapon should I use with this set, I'm only using the spinsword currently because the color matches
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>>152664245
>only arena and a bunch of weapons mentioned
>miyazaki promised something different
I'm already seeing it
They make some edgy shit non-character npc who will give you items for raking up those arena victories
The entire dlc location is the arena and hub area for the npc
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>>152664245
>there is no single player component this time
Would make it easier to not buy the DLC. I literally don't care about what weapons they add if it doesn't come with meaningful PvE content as well.
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>>152664342
>put RSS
>expect a duel
>get ganked
>use REO
>expect invasion
>host is a duelfag
>put WSS
>expect cooperation
>host wants to kill you

What incentive do you give to whites and golds? No one likes when you use a multiplayer item and don't get what you're after and as it stands now, WSS is the only one that always works unless host wants to gank and you don't
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>>152664432
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>>152664432
shield completely ruins the color palette
headgear clips through the torso
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>>152664443
So basically Hercules Cup in Kingdom Hearts
The "final boss" is the NPC
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Arena something was in BB trailer
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx8KTIeSnzs
>0:50
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>>152664342
>lmao let's force the people who just want to help others into pvp ganks lmao haha

fuck off retard, red signs exist for a reason
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>>152663785
Nito had the most attention out of all the Lords in DS2, they probably wanted to balance that
still, gaylord servants not returning is homosexual as fuck regardless
aldrich faithful should be gaylords 2.0 instead of another forestfag wannabes in the same game
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>>152664618
>gank apologist
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>>152664594
That's the room leading to Old Yharnam, anon
That trailer's been dissected so many times
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>>152664594
That actually seems to be what they'd make lanterns be
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Are these types of signs just super old or hacked?
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>>152664594
And it became a better game for not having it. Heck you can't even duel properly
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>>152664618
>lmao let's force the people who just want to help others into pvp ganks lmao haha
Thats literally what happens when I try to coop
I get summoned by some WoB piece of shit who sits around and waits for reds to come
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>>152664749
Most likely hacked.
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>>152664787
Literally never had that happen in 300 hours but okay. BC out nigga.
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>waiting for famitsu scans
Well it's time for NIOH
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>>152664494
>expect invasion
>host is a duelfag
tbqh the best thing about invading and being invaded by honorfags is pretending to play along with their autism and then taking advantage of their stupidity at some point
even though I can't see their real faces, the frustration is very easy to sense
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>>152664778
and as a direct result of that the online is actually not dead at all, hopefully they learn more from BB than from DS3 when they move to the newer IPs.
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>>152665006
>online is actually not dead at all
Don't lie. It's dead compared to DS3 online on PS4. Invasions are rare as fuck
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God Tier
Pure FTH, FTH/STR, FTH/DEX

Who cares Tier
The rest

Shit Tier
INTfags in any variations

Meme Babby Tier
INT/FTH Abyss scum

Prove me wrong
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Whites and Golds aren't the problem, the problem is hosts with passworded phantoms who gank random invaders either intentionally, or just because of that dumb MM feature that prioritizes them for invasions.
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>>152665214
God Tier
Quality

Shit tier
The rest

Prove me wrong
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>>152664924
>tfw beta isn't releasing until 11am EST or later
Fucking nips. I woke up early to play it, and they fucked me.
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>>152665191
>compared to DS3 online on PS4
anon please, that wasn't true two months ago, it sure as hell isn't true now.
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>>152665218
No the problem is the host can summon new phantoms during an invasion. That's the only thing that needs to be disabled and invasions will be perfectly fine.

Anyone who says otherwise is a complete shitter who only invaded Burg with twinked out Chaos weapons.
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>>152665274
It's out in AU/EU/RU stores. Just create acc. EZ
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>>152665265
Fuck off, memehacki
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>>152665218
Now tell me, who are you supposed to kill? The host who has the need of phantoms to win or the sollo one?
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>>152664924
oh is that coming back today? new content or same as earlier beta?
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>>152656416
Dark Souls 2's fashion was really strong and varied.
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>>152665370
>that wasn't true two months ago,
Again, don't lie. Stream us BB pvp right now. It's easy. And we all can see cruel true
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>>152665407
I don't want to bother making a new PSN account just to play a demo.
I know that I'm complaining about an easily fixed problem, but it still frustrates me.
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>>152665480
It's long as fuck right now.But they make it casual tho. They remove stamina management
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The actual reason people don't like invasions in dark souls 3 is because they are so used to stomping hosts with minimal effort in the other games.

Discuss.
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>>152665458
Both. They all deserve to die.
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>>152656416
I hope the DLC has a merchant that just sells shitloads of DaS2 armour.
Armour and weapons were the only redeeming part of that game, and I miss so many of them so much.
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>>152665665
>minimal effort in the other games.
This is bait, because gank squads were are deal in all souls games. 2 vs 1 is pretty common
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>>152665665
Also, this feels like it is the case for a lot of the popular dark souls pvp streamers.
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>>152662408
What is the point?Everyone will keep on using cancerous dex weapons anyway
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>>152665714
I just want Ashes for those goddamn infusion gems
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>>152665697
But who deserves first? The one with the biggest advantage
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>>152665665
I agree.
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>>152665665
not true at all
DS3 has core problems with its gameplay that make invasions terrible. The only real solution is to remove all the DS2 or all the BB, and they obviously will never do that.
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fucking bullshit adding pvp shit to a dark souls dlc.
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>>152665736
Even so it was still WAY easier. My winrate as an invader was above 90 percent in dark souls 2. It got lower in dark souls 3
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>>152665214
I wholeheartedly agree
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help
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>>152665943
>terrible

harder*
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>>152665665
While I agree, they reall should do stuff like nerf estus and rolls. This would rise the skill an invader needs even more to filter shitters while not making fights last forever
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>>152665958
Never done before. Scandal.
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>>152666074
>harder*
longer and incredibly fucking boring*
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Do spears in ds3 have a sweet spot? I've been using arstor's spear on a playthrough for shits and giggles and the slugs in poison rape swamp take like three times as much damage when I catch them with the very tip. It's not a counter hit either because those do even more

Just wondering because that makes literally zero sense seeing as the spear is being driven straight through the enemy
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>>152666248
There are two types of slugs in farron keep, one has about 3 times more health than the other.
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>>152666176
>they reall should do stuff like nerf estus and roll

Hard to do without fucking with pve balance.


>>152666225
Meh, only had a few long invasions in my experience.
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>>152666074
>harder
No. They're terrible
>60vit + 40end+
>30% roll
>bloodring
>anti backstab ring
>summon 2 60int bros with obscuring ring and one parry baiter/WP/CCS what ever
>never fight, jsut roll roll roll and resummon phantoms
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>>152666397
that sounds fun

anyone up for a playthrough like this for the dlc?
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>>152666305

I've gotten both hits on the same slug though. I chip away once or twice for 70 damage and then back up and land a 200+

I think I've actually figured it out, they're so fucking small that the spear is going above them and getting some kind of glancing hit, but at the end of the spear it's wider and it connects properly with the hitbox
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anyone got the fanart of gwyn hiding behind a baffled NK while the MC spams parry?
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>>152666248
They have a sweet spot but it is not as bad as before. The counter damage window is really small it seems.


>>152666397
Kek, glad I haven't experienced that yet.
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>>152666460
I was summoned as mage before candle patch in those kind ganks. This is just unfair. Nonstop wins. Nonstop kills. There is no chanse to win.
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>>152666378
The PvE is quite easy as it is. The bosses people argue to be hard without the rolls can all be beaten with proper spacing,like pontiff.
Then they could make current rolls be bloodring <25% ones, giving that its own niche.

The fact you can estus whenever and walk from fucking backstabs because of it really needs some work too, but in the end, if those changes got too hard, you could just summon.
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>>152666642
I think the main adjustment to bosses should be more hp. Feels like some bosses really only shine when you are severely underleveled, like Ocerios.
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>>152664749
this is what happens if you leave a message in the very first day after release
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>>152664432
Try to use Richard Rapier (forget about it's name)
And Llewellyn Shield
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>>152662535
The fucking arena better gonna have a team deathmatch mode.
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>>152666176
>nerf estus and rolls
and fuck up pve balance just for your shitty minigame?
fuck off back to fighting games reject
>>
Bold statement inbound:

-Dark Souls: All weapons are viable in one way or the other, some more popular, others less. Clear player variation and choice.

-Dark Souls II: All weapons are viable in one way or the other, some more popular, others less. Clear player variation and choice.

-Dark Souls III: Dark Sword. Dark Sword. Dark Sword. Dark Sword.
Guy with a katana that only sprint thrusts.
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>>152665714
Honestly they could just add that shit to the ashes you give to shrine handmaid
>Mortician's Ashes gives you peasant's set
>Dreamchaser Ashes gives you wanderer set
>Easterner's Ashes gives you Shiva's (easterner's set in game already) Alonne's Set and Cale's set (looks like Chink armor)
>Prisoner Chief's Ashes gives you forlorn set and Penal Set
>Grave Warden's Ashes gives you grave warden set
>Xanthous Ashes gives you Black Witch Set
>Dragon Chaser's Ashes gives you Archdrake Set, Black Dragon Set, Dragonrider set
>Paladin's Ashes gives you Insolent Set, Looking Glass Set and Targray's Set
>Killing Creighton unlocks Benhart's Set from shrine handmaid
>Defeating dragonslayer armor unlocks Drakekeeper set from shrine handmaid

>Cornyx sells lion mage / warrior sets after giving him the great swamp tome and chaos set after giving him Izalith tome
>Karla sells Hexer set after giving her both dark pyromancy tomes
>Irina sells you priestess set by default and Saint's Set and White Priest Set after the Lothric tome

The rest can be scattered through the DLC or some shit
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Beware of message!
Good 16 Poor 37
Smouldering lake.

guess where it is
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>>152665665
It's a mix and match.
I like the addition of seeds and shit like that, but it feels like you can't do anything actually fun in DS3 invasions. In 1 you occasionally could dick with the host by resetting shortcuts and in 2 use corrosive jars to break their shit (or pushing them into acid shit, that was fun) but in 3 it's just lmao3phantomsr1spampointdown or if it's a lone shitter you kill them and that's it.

The only fun part in invasions is cucking Darkmoons out of the kill and then casting DMB as they fade.

>>152666248
>Just wondering because that makes literally zero sense seeing as the spear is being driven straight through the enemy

It does make sense from an irl perspective. If you stand right next to a wall and pretend that you have a spear. If you stab at the wall from right next to it, you don't have enough room to efficiently operate it or gather enough force to hurt the wall, but if you stand a little further, you can project much more force into the blow.
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>>152665714
I'd rather see new sets than reused garbage from DS2
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>>152666964
>pve balance
>fuck off back to fighting games reject
Pure /v/. You can beat any souls game without leveling up. What the point of repeating "pve" if it's just nothing but same shit? This is not mmo with raid bosses. PVP is more alive than pvp
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>>152667078
>Dark Souls
>All weapons are viable in one way or the other,

Nope. You have probably even forgotten a lot of weapons. Also half the movesets are useless for some weapons(as in it will only get backstabbed).
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>>152666542
>>152666305

I made a webm because apparently I've got nothing better to do. If it's a sweet spot thing the damage difference is huge.

I can reproduce it every one of the 4-5 different spears I have, hitting the slugs at close range seems to do 33% damage. The strange thing is that I've never, ever noticed it with any other kind of enemy. Maybe bad hits do standard instead of thrust damage? The slugs are weak af to thrust attacks
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>>152667078
>Dark Souls: All weapons are viable in one way, backstabbing

fixed
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>>152667230
blocking the item that's on the wall where you find horace?
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>>152667256
This one is pretty good though. I just want a sallet ;_;
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>>152667402
yeas
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>>152667393
>Great club build video
>It's based around backstabs and riposts
>filled with cuts to backstabs and riposts

Dark Souls 1 pvp montages in general I guess. It's like watching a fatality animation montage for mortal kombat. Gets boring after awhile.
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>>152667405
>>152665714

More scans, please
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>>152667550
my man, I put one there as well saying "you don't deserve this"
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>>152667257
unlike you ponitff degenerate i'm actually invading in virtually all areas of the game plus doing dried finger runs and understand that pve is the core of the game that keeps it alive, not you and your buttbuddies spinning around in circles and creating a super complicated game plan built around extreme passivity and WDR1s

bosses, especially on high ng+ cycles, are explicitly balanced around current rolling and estus system, ng+++++++ SoC will fucking annihilate you if rolls have less i-frames, especially in curved sword mode, less i-frame will lead to some boss attacks being impossible to dodge through which will require a major rebalance that will never happen

even then more punishable rolling will only lead to straight swords and carthus curved becoming even stronger than they are now

sometimes i wish pvp faggots to just fuck off from this unique series into smash or some another low skill ceiling fighting game, will be right up your alley
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>>152667579
I actually really liked this design.
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>>152667373
Alright, the more you know I suppose, weird why from would make it only for slugs though.
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>>152666964
>implying it's not already fucked

Givi g better rolls than BB or ninia flip for free is not okay. Insta estus that you don't even need to look for windows is not okay.
In the other games if you didn't run the fuck away or made a proper timed roll when something like pontiff raised their arms, champ started his charge or dancer begin the spin, you were punished badly and had to look for an opportunity to even heal.
Now you can panic roll spam and survive those and then estus with no punishment because of the downtime between their combos.
This is not good at all.
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>>152667705
Shame about the pauldrons though
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>>152667705
literally my favourite armor in the franchise, except I used the ordinary alonne helmet instead of the captain version
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>>152664245
>only 1,200 yen
>not a word about anything other than the arena and some new gear from the leak
I'd believe it
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>>152667705
too cool to be in souls 3
I'm not even kidding I wish I was, every new armor in game that wasn't in previous games seems to be going for the "SO REALISTIC" route
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>>152667705
if only it actually looked like that
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>>152667280
The point was that you actually saw players using them, or trying to at one point or the other.

>It was never just people with only straight swords and katanas
>You were never punished for using two handers by hapless light attack spam
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>>152667917
>invade
>try using demons fist
>they dont get hit at all
>just parry spam until I win

why does it have to be this way
>>
Dork Souls 3 including all DLC for $40 when
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>>152667802
Makes sense if they based them samurai armor I guess. Samurai basically put their shields on their shoulders to protect them in their archer duels. They dropped that design with the introduction of gunpowder and the professionalisation of Ashigaru though.
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>>152668113
May 2017
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>>152668217
fake
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>>152668213
Seems reasonable, I still need to play both DS1 and 2.
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>>152668217
Fugg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1NCPMC7D0
It's private right now tho
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>invaded
>use the empty ashen estus bottle to play the "no estus" animation
>they drink all their estus thinking this will be an honorable duel
hehehehehe
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>>152668217
play.st/2bJQIDq
it's a private YT video
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>>152667647
try harder /v/
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>>152668324
Love you anon.
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>>152668273
no
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/768085653678460929
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>>152668324
top lol
gonna steal this
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What the actual fuck
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>>152668456
Either because of slavery or sado-masocism.
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Was Ariandel ever mentioned in lore before?
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>>152668456
just use Master
>why
because they are retards banning a list of lower case raw text with no whitelist
>jap devs
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>>152668526
that's fucking retarded, the word "master" itself is fucking innocent
literally everything can be made sexual if you want it to be
>>
THIS
VIDEO
IS
PRIVATE
R
I
V
A
T
E
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>>152668324
You're a fucking asshole and a genius, I am laffin
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>>152668324
devilish
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>>152668645
>tfw reloading on a speed of light
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>>152668537
>Was Ariandel ever mentioned in lore before?
No.
>>
>Dark Souls III: Ashes of Ariandel
>Ashes of Ariandel
>Ariandel
>EL

ANGELS CONFIRMED
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>>152668324
>have 8 estus
>drink 2 estus
>switch to ashen really quickly and use the animation

even more convincing
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>>152668036
Because a bunch of nostalgic shitlords cried butt blood about every single aspect of DSII, rather than praising Tanimura for saving a total disaster and turning it into Duel Souls.

So now they just recycle everything, instead of producing "risky" new content.
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>This video is private
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Sony just leaked announce too early
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WHO/WHAT THE FUCK IS ARIANDEL?
>>
>Fight some pyro guy
>Sperent spams me to a sliver of Health
>He switches to caestus and bare fist
>Lucky parry, its a fucking caestus of course
>Kills me
>Get summoned back later with Drang Hammers equipped
>He immediatly switches to caestus+fist
>Parry spams, i think he's trying to taunt
>full combo spin bash, cant be parried
>He starts parry spamming again
>Spin bash again
>ded
Idk what he's trying to acomplish here, congrats you won and tried to make me salty; then died in the process.
>>
Yo guys, is the dlc of this game going to be story?

I beat this game on release but i was never able to beat the nameless king. I got the urge to play a souls game again and i want to start over, i was planning on waiting for dlc first tho.

In any case, what kind of character is best to defeat the nameless king? My first one was a murakamo build and i couldnt even get past the dragon many times, the camera fucked me up.
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>>152668456
Why would they even ban anything anyway. This is a game about hardcore gorefests and decaying corpses.
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>tfw no pvp arena but with mobs on each team.
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>>152668942

A N G E L S
N
G
E
L
S
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>>152668708
The name of a kingdom certainly sounds angelic.
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>>152668942
>new story introduced for the dlc
>zero expansion on the angels/ kaathe/ frampt themes

TOLD YOU
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>>152668994

Yeah there is, it's called ''Red + Pontiff Knights vs. Host + Blueberries''.
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>>152668994
i wish it had something like mini-chalice dungeons with extremely hard enemy combinations
like a huge squad of elite Lothric knights covered by priests
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>>152668942

YOU WANT ANSWERS? HERE MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU

t. memeazaki
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>Tweet removed, the DLC announcement is tomorrow
LMAO
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>>152668456
What did they mean by this?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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assholes
there's no way to see private youtube videos, right?
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>all these shitters that plague us will abandon if the Ashes of Ariandel having an arena thing is true
Noriaki Kakyoin's last thoughts were not of Japan and his parents...but of the purification of locally run FCs...
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>>152669230
that your name is censored
>>
>a PvP-exclusive map called "Immortal Competition."
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1NCPMC7D0

dlc trailer link for when it goes public
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>>152669230
ead=eat a dick
Really makes you think if FROM just reused the filter from club penguin.
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>>152669280
No, But JP trailer should out early. Wait for scans
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>>152662408
>no new area
>only a pvp arena

Dead on arrival
>>
So I'm at 36/36 str/agi and I'm doubting between using a refined claymore or a black knight glaive
The claymore is slightly stronger and can be buffed, but the glaive has range and wombo combos.
I'm still on my first playthrough and I'm just fucking around at the archdragon's peak to get some pvp experience in.

Is the regular glaive better than the black knight one? I imagine that when refined and fully upgraded it might be stronger, since it could still be buffed? But I'm tight on resources.

Are there any other weapons similar to the claymore that are worth checking out?
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>>152668956
I did nameless on my second attempt with sword and board. You put 30 points into vitality and drink your goddamn juice.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtHDsw4FioQ
I bet this is the main theme of DLC or at least an initial draft of it.
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>Dark Souls: AotA
>Dark Souls III: AoA

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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Aha so this is the true face of the Pillars of the Community influence
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Why are there so many people throwing duel charms at buff builds. Honestly I could just go 40/40 and refined like everybody else and do more damage than with buffs.
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>>152669478
but he does so much damage and its hard to control the camera, half the time im hit i dotn see him
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>>152669539
How's the mace game?
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>>152669451
>no new area
>only a pvp arena
Who said? You're delusional
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>>152669280
>>
>Ashes of Ariandel
>Painted World of Ariamis

Really made me think
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>Ariandel
>snowy area
>Ari
>Ariamis
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>>152668956
HOW DO PEOPLE SO SUBHUMAN EXIST

THERE TRULY IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 4CHAN AND REDDIT

>>152669583

BECAUSE THATS YOUR COUNTER YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>152668942
GWYN'S WIFE
IT'S GWYN'S WIFE GUYS
OMG
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>>152669585
No target lock.
<70% equip load
30 vit.
Juice.
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>>152669462
pls advice will suck penis
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>>152669798
the only subhuman piece of shit autistic manchild is the one raging in caps lock, idiot
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>>152669583
They want EZ win. They're not here for real duels your build vs their build. Just use cheats and turn off therir dex/str stats
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I want to fuck Ocealotte
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So, if I just start my name with a capital letter it will bypass the name filter?
What if the filtered letters are in the middle of the name? Will they still be censored?
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>>152669604
Eh
Its like the sellswords, hit with R1/L1 and then combo the full WA
Its slower than the other paired weapons, other mace stuff applies; slow to use
Fun though
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ARE YOU FAGGOTS READY TO GO BACK TO ARIAMIS
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Any PS4 bros have a spare Insolent chest piece? Want the fashion for my faith build. SM 1.7 million.
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>>152669762

>>152670000
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>>152669874
kill yourself you fucking retard

if you had any clue how the fuck dlc works in any from game you'd know it will obviously have a singleplayer aspect

then again you're too much of a stupid nigger to kill fucking nk on ng, not surprised you asked a dumb fucking question too

ooga booga din du nuffin, maybe that will make you understand
>>
>>152670000
you mean am I ready for them to copy/paste more DS1 content that no one actually wants? Sure
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>>152670095
>copy/paste more DS1 content
/v/ pls
>>
>>152669798
Calm down and take a deep breath, dude. Feeling better now?
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>>152670068
le le le le triggered face guys look how cool i am im so triggered lol im on 4chan and im acting like im really mad lol im so cool on the internet haha loool!

okay buddy
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Autist
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so what is a good place to warp into the dlc area?
if it's truly Ariamis it will require a doll and painting
painting can be hidden somewhere near Corvians as they are related to the Painted World, or in Pontiff's gallery
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>>152670068
jesus
>>
every time this general picks up speed is goes full retard cancer containment mode
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>>152670037
Just buy it from Agdayne, or did they change that in SoTFS?
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>>152667243
I've seen this image several times and I'm just now realizing that's Anri and Horace. For some reason I just assumed that was the player character and Horace was just some summon.
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>>152670068
actually not totally true, there's been DLC for their other games that's purely cosmetic
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>>152669143
A co-op focused scenario like that would be pretty neat.
>>
>>152668956
Dragonslayer Axe is very good against King of the Storm, so if you make a character who can at least two-hand it, it should make phase 1 short. you can make it Raw and buff it with Gold Pine Resin and you will kill him very quickly with little stat investment. hit him a couple of times and then run away (but not too far) and get in front of him to see what he's doing, i think he's more difficult to fight if you lock on
NK is weak to bleed, Bandit Knife kills him very quickly but if you're not confident in dodging his attacks and can't hit him many times before Rouge wears off, it probably won't work very well. you can try Barbed Straight Sword - it's fast and does dencent damage on top of inflicting bleed. if you always stay close to him, he will do attacks that you can punish quite often, staying further away may just prolong the fight. his double swipe combo is a good opening - after he does 2 swipes, do a rolling attacks but try to stay in front of him and it will provoke him to do a stab attack - roll to the side, recover from rolling and punish it with 2 regular R1s. if feel like you can't proc bleed often enough before Rouge wears off, you can try using another straight sword because you can get chain stagger on him using straight swords, don't know about other weapon classes though - it's the easiest way to kill him quickly, i think, i can tell you how to do it if you want
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>>152670065
I improved it
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>>152670240
Not like we have famitsu scans and fuckin trailer right now.
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>>152670181
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>Londor
>Ariandel
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>>152670240
they will let you jump off the bridge with all the dead pilgrims on it
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>>152670240

Rofl mate the reason you need a doll to enter Irithyll is that it merged with the painted world the moment the painting was destroyed which is also why the crow people are there and in the rest of the world
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>>152670363
Why does 3 lack monster girls
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>>152670309
if people think multiplayer content is confirmed then its already non-cosmetic

removing retards like the person i replied to from generals like /bbg/ and /dsg/ is a duty all should take up
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>>152670271

Yeah you have to farm for it now. 4 gloves, 1 helm, 2 leggings so far.
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>>152670470
because muh miyaclucki
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>>152670240
Isn't there a painting of Ariamis in the gallery?
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>>152669973
>What if the filtered letters are in the middle of the name? Will they still be censored?
Yes.

We can't have prefixes in names like "Knight", "Undead", "Abyss", "Holy" or "Assassin" because all of them contain some sort of letter combination that gets censored.

>>152668217
*sigh*
I honestly prefer boredom of waiting for announcements in these threads opposed to people getting excited over shit we won't get to see until after 2 whole months.

Prepare for /v/kiddies shitposting endlessly.
>>
Can we get some TECHNOLOGY with that new snowy area? Blizzards, footprints, accumulation of snow and frost on armor?
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>>152670000
"Dad, can I have a real xanthous set now?"
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>>152670608
No, it's not Ariamis.
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>>152670360
alright thanks when i start a new save im going to overpower my character as hell and try some of the stuff you said
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>>152670470
There's a snake girl

Well.

I'm assuming its a girl anyway.
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>>152670631
Well, dark souls 2 had that.
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>>152670609
>"Abyss", "Holy"
What the fuck is there to censor even
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>we will meet Priscilla but she's already old
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>>152670470
there is yorshka
>>
Going to be so funny when the DLCs are mostly completely new content, and you fags complain about it not having DaS1 throwbacks after reaming the game for having too many throwbacks for the past 6 months.

Save this post, it'll happen.
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>>152670609
>We can't have prefixes in names like "Knight", "Undead", "Abyss", "Holy" or "Assassin" because all of them contain some sort of letter combination that gets censored.
Then how did pic related get past the filter?

>>152670815
I'm pretty sure "bys" is what gets censored.No idea why though.
>>
Alright/dsg/ i have been using Hollowslayer Greatsword for most of the game up to Aldrich. I dont even have it past +2, what are some fun or just really really good weapons I can use? Using one weapon sorta gets boring.
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>>152670843
>milfscilla
muh dick
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>>152670609
>>152670815
Apparently Abyss and Holy are fine.
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Elite Knight is the "Main Character" set of 1
Faraam is 2's set

What is the "Main character" set of 3?
Is it Fallen Knight?
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>>152670470
Rosaria?

>It will also have a new PvP-exclusive map called the “Immortal Arena.”
>a whole map wasted on the dogshit this game calls "PvP
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>>152670770
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>>152670798
We need more, snowy areas have big potential.
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>>152670997
Cinder Man.
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>>152670987
Holy only gets "ho" censored if it's not in capital letters
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>>152670997
Order of release

>Fluted, Elite Knight, Faraam, Hunter, and Wandering Knight (also known as starting Knight set)
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>>152670968
Claymore.
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>>152670997
>Fallen Knight
are you damaged? the posterboy armor is red knight AKA firelink set. but for fanart, most prefer the basic knight set
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>>152671029
I'm so glad the snekpeople are back.

Mammoth people was gay
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>>152670997
Firelink or knight
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>>152670997
It's the standard knight guy. He's the only starter set that's sort of the unofficial protagonist of his respective game. Cinder is the final boss so he doesn't count.
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>>152670949
>Then how did pic related get past the filter?
CE fuckery or weird characters in names, because "Knight" is censored at least.

>>152670815
"ho" gets censored.
"bys" is something like "blow your self"
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>>152670997
The promotional set is Cinderella's and the player character's "main" set is regular Knight.
>>
>>152670997
Firelink
>>
>>152671138
>>152670968
Oops, meant to specify, something that isnt a greatsword or ultragreatsword or curved greatsword. Or any kind of greatsword.
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I M M O R T A L C O M P E T I T I O N
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>>152671195
>>152671147
>>152671086

>>152671242
Ok.

Hey man I'm just calling it what I see on the wiki.
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>>152670815
**ly k***ht **drick
>>
>>152663752
BB gave us a few free DLC items and shit before the actual DLC came out which was pretty cool to me. Hopefully DaS3 does the same.
>>
>>152671229
He was also used heavily for promo screenshots.
>>
What are some of the more fun weapons to use in your opinion in ds3?
>>
>>152670710
you don't have to be overpowered to use all that, the stagger strat worked on my sl1 character in NG+5 and he was at about 20% hp when everything was done and i know that with Raw ASS+10 the second riposte is guaranteed to kill him in NG. if you've never killed him before though, it might be difficult for you to stagger him quickly enough so that he doesn't go into lightning phase before the stagger. if you're not confindent in dodging every attack, i've heard that Dragonslayer Greatshield is very good for this fight since it has high physical and lightning defence. Bloodring can help you in both phases, especially in phase 2 because it allows you to mistime a roll and get away with it. good luck
>>
>>152671238
>CE fuckery or weird characters in names
That was taken on PS4. I don't think you can do either on console.
>>
Wonder if that steam big picture thing works with dark souls 3. It makes it so you can go over the character limit when naming a character through big picture.
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W H E N ?
H
E
N
?
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>Frostbite magic, light boomerangs.
>Arena
slightly hyped
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>>152671793
\teddir\<<<
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>archangels all have -el in their names
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vote now please
PC
will host the winner in 10 minutes
http://www.strawpoll.me/11061027
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>>152669798
>BECAUSE THATS YOUR COUNTER YOU FUCKING RETARD

Yeah and I can also twohand a greatshield, equip the carthus blood ring and counter everyone. You really want that you fucking imbecile?
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>>152671863
I think the 'light boomerangs' is just a spell that does MLGS beams, or something like this
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>>152653309
HELLO, OUR BLESSED /dsg/ PROPHET

TELL US, WILL THE DLC FIX EVREYTHING?
>>
So, this is supposed to be the leaked concept art for the dlc area(s)
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>>152671986
TWO
W
O

2
2
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>>152671986
3 is the only way to be
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>>152671331
and the wiki said fallen knight was the posterboy?
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>>152671986
None of the above holy shit.
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>>152672284
(you)
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>>152672056
__No
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>>152672284
Hey there cherry molester, how goes your day?
>>
I just wonder what's going to open up on the right side of the crystal sage
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>>152671986
>2,4,5 and six in stupid dark areas where you cant see shit
okay
>>
>>152671986
I...can't figure out where 6 is supposed to be, Castle?
>>
>>152672167
no it's just art from someone who worked with from. They even had to go and edit all their pictures because of retards like you who assume it's related to the dlc
>>
>arena
>cryomancy
>weapons with cool effects like ISS, but other elements
>new armors and magic
ok, can be good. October is too far away, though.
>>
Did anyone save the video?
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>>152672435
Cathedral of the Deep with the poisonbite ring i think?
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>>152672435
I think 6 is the cathedral
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>>152672435
deep cathedral behind where the bonfire is
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>>152672402
your anus
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>>152672576
fucking lol
>>
GUYS I need a really good weapon that can be or doesnt have to be fun, and is not a greatsword, and can be obtained before Aldrich.
I just wanna have some fun.
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>>152672478
we were forced to wait even longer for old hunters, deal with it
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>>152672516
>>152672525
>>152672560
Oh yeah, I couldn't recognize it
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I just want to let you all know, I called cryomancies first before any of you dumb niggers did
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>>152672654
at least base bloodborne was better than base das3
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>>152671953

>Lucatiel
Oh my god man ooh my goooood
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>unneuter offhand weapons by giving them the full light attack moveset and WA capabilities
Boom fixed the variety. Why did they make DaS3 so bad? Seriously it's ridiculous that even DaS2 is a better game
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>>152672175
>>152672219
>>152672435
and the winner is 3, signs down password dsg, might change arenas after half an hour
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>>152672387
It goes.
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>>152672715
no it won't
bb is my favorite fromsoft game and it really wasn't
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>mfw from/bumco are stalking the webs for any possible leaks/people trying to find info on the dlc

What are they hiding?
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>>152672708
nigga everyone was hoping for cryomancy before the game came out
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>>152672653
I'm in the same boat anon, please let me know if you manage to find anything.
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>>152672708
people have been saying cryomancy since at least ds2's announcement.

Go cryomancy some more
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>>152672761
Uhh, where is 3, again?
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>First dlc is focused entirely on pvp
If i didn't play souls for the pvp i'd be salty
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>>152672745
>Velka
>el
>Velka is related to the painted world
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>>152672653
Drang Hammers?
Halberd(the regular one with charge)?
Greataxe?
Greatlance(if you dancer skip)?
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>>152672817
They wanna make it a big announcement, let them.
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>>152672951
>el
>lel
>velka is a memelord
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>>152672939
foot of the high wall
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Velka boss hyper confirmed
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>>152672478
>arena
DLC already ruined.
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>>152673309
You don't even need to join, faggot.
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>>152673367
>only new area is a arena
>weapons only come from winning in the arena

BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
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>>152673296
>implying her power levels ain't too high for us to fight her
she's a deity governing all sin, it's like fighting prime Gwyn
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Alright, how is the Washing Pole fully ypgraded for PvE? Is it good/fun? Better than the Holow slayer greatsword?
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>>152673423
I doubt that. Else it wouldn't have that title.
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>>152673440
hollowslayer greatsword is op as fuck for pve

i don't think there's any better weapon
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>all the new weapons/spells will be frostbite related
>they will all be shit
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>>152673065
Plus we'll likely get a cool trailer tomorrow. OH trailer was so good, I'm looking forward to this one.
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Is anyone coming to the FC?
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>>152673498
FROSTBITE FIRE SURGE
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>>152673367
the arena ruined the DLC by having literally an entire map dedicated to just pvp shite.
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pls join its lonely up here
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>>152673637
>impossible to counter
>easy to inflict
>fucks up estus recovery and defenses
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>SNOW LEVEL

FUCK. YOU. FROMSOFT.

I ALREADY ENJOYED A SNOW LEVEL IN THIS FUCKING GAME YOU FUCKS.
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>>152673668
>>152673625
shit spot desu

i can't kill vordt

can we move it to high wall please
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>>152672745
>aslatiel
MIRRAH ANGEL CITY CONFIRMED
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>>152673687
snow and cold are the main themes of dark souls 3 because the fire fades
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>>152673691
backups
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>>152673661
I'm actually a pretty big PVPfag and I agree with you. It's a super big issue to think they're focusing on PVP so heavily. Especially since DaS3 is so woefully imbalanced when it comes to to PVP.

The only way this DLC's PVP shit could be acceptable is if it's a new area defender covenant with a really cool area to defend like Anor Londo or Road of Sacrifices.
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>>152673487
I doubt that it'll be arena only, but having a title is hardly proof
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>>152673687
I really wish the land of the giants wasn't cut/unfinished in DeS so I could have said this about DaS2. /sigh
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Is the Profaned Greatsword a meme weapon or is it safe to keep PvPing with it?
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>>152673691
why can't you kill vordt? you want to keep your high wall for invasions? Just trigger the dancer fight, dingus.

>>152673797
>focusing so heavily
>literally adding an arena because their own invasion and summoning mechanics are ass

it's just compensation, I bet it's just a huge area of nothing to load to make it bearable to everyone. Hopefully they make it so we can host fight clubs in this arena too.
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>>152673691
>i can't kill vordt
You fucking wot
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>>152673742
It doesn't mean we need another fucking snow level. Why couldn't it have been Ice Caves? Why not an Arctic Fishing Village?

We all know it's not gonna be anything remotely like that. It's gonna be another Gothic style city with a large cathedral.
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>>152673958
FC host probably
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>>152673932
no like i literally can't beat him

he's too difficult

>>152673958
sorry man
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>>152674075
It's past sleeptime in japan already my man.
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>>152674017
>Arctic Fishing Village

WOW FISHING HAMLET BUT IN THE WINTER BRAVO FROMSOFT
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>>152673691
Vordt is easier than fucking gundyr

If you die to him at all past like your first fight when you're still adjusting to the speed, you need to go back to special ed and learn basic motor controls
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>>152674075
T-this is bait right?
Right anon?
RIGHT?
Do you need help forreal? i can provide
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>>152674017
Enough of all this claustrophobic shit. I want some spooky open fields and stuff.

Seriously every place in DS3 is so tightly packed. There's like less than 5 seconds of travel time between packs of enemies.
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str+faith or dex+faith?

i can't decide on what to do with my new character
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>>152674327
no faith
it's shit
don't bother
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>>152674431
but i want do do co-op and heal people
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>>152674327
STR and Faith

Rush Cathedral, get Gnaw, beat Dancer ez, then grab the Lothric Knight GS and lightning infuse for the only good infuse weapon in the game
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>+8 Great Mace
>40 STR
>2H
>290 per hit
OH BOY
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>>152674458
then you need at least 20 fth with priestess ring to be able to use great heal
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>>152674236
I'd rather have one without the mary sue atmosphere, thanks
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>>152674458
but they already have infinite estus that heal whatever you want to heal 10 times faster
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>>152674458
No, you don't want to be a heal slut, stop being a sissy
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>DLC Trailer is set to private
What is this shit ? If the trailer is already available why don't they let people watch it ? It makes no fucking difference if they announce it a day earlier.
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>>152674494
>+1 Profaned Greatsword
>40 STR
>Does more damage
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>>152674582
i don't want to be a heal slut, i want to be able to carry shit hosts through every possible situation, which includes having to heal them bc they ran out of estus like the shitters that they are
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>>152674327
Str+faith, you get mornes and wolnir's sword for weapons.
Dex+faith doesn't really work, swordspear and spear are deceiving and you don't actually get much from their faith scaling.
>>152674458
It's kinda hard to do heal co-op, but it is possible. Be prepared for a lot of people ignoring it though, but it's really satisfying when the host catches on and you get a rhythem going.
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>>152674236
So long as it didn't have fish people and included some ice flows and icebergs or something, it'd be fine.
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>>152674494
Meanwhile
>+10 Godhards eolling attack does more
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Anyone in DS1 on PS3 want to help me take down Gwyn? SL81
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>>152674779
and is way faster
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guys guys
calm down

remember the first dlc, they added both pvp and pve content, they arent going to add only an arena after all this waiting, wait for both this and some cool bosses like on artorias of the abyss
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Anyone down for some super fun Smouldering Lake/Demon Ruins co-op? Abandoned Tomb, dsg, PC.
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What did I miss that makes everyone think it is about the painted world?
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>dodge abyss watchers attack
>go to hit him
>get hit by tiny bit of flame that is still there for some reason
>get hit
>repeat this proccess until I am dead

okay seriously how do I not get hit by this residual flame bullshit
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>>152674890
only absolute spergs can thing that this is a pvp-only dlc
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>>152675072
this, only /dsg/ and reddit are that retarded
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>>152674685
>but it's really satisfying when the host catches on and you get a rhythem going
It really is!
It's just nice being able to keep people alive like that. Even more so when it shows that they appreciate it too.
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>>152675045
just swing an ultra weapon or something

i wish from had never gotten a boner for bullshit double fire swing hitboxes
fuck you keeper of the old lords, fuck you maria
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>>152674993
sure, if my internet won't die
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>>152674890
You're being naive. This DLC will be mediocre because they're gonna jam it full of PVP stuff that nobody gives a fuck about.

I say this as a full-blooded PVPfag. Nobody is going to care about the Immortal Combat arena or anything else, but it's gonna be taking focus and content away from other shit.

I fucking guarantee you there's gonna be some sort of miserable ranking system like there was in the BoB and BS arenas in DaS2 that will lock us out of content, like they did in DaS2.
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>Lightning boomerang
I did right with making my main a faith character
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>>152675045
Stop trying to dodge and punish
Instead, mindlessly mash R1 until your stamina is low or you're almost dead, then mash circle while holding back until you're a safe distance, and chug.

You'll beat every boss in the game with this strategy
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>>152674890
Only a literal retard would think they're only adding PVP content. It's actually shocking how dumb most people are.
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>>152675031
The names sounds sorta similar.
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I have already played dark souls 2 and 3, as well as bloodborne. Going to play 1 soon, what am I in for?
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So who wants to bet the arena will be a free addon like Aldia and the League and not actually part of the dlc's paid content?

Considering how hush-hush "we can't answer that" they were about the arena before DaS3's release, it's pretty obvious they chose to reserve it for dlc fairly early on in development
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>>152675072
>Only spergs care that the game with thew worst PVP in the series is getting a PVP-centric DLC
You're an idiot. DaS3's pvp revolves around parryfishing and mashing R1 with Curved/Straight Swords or Hyper Armor trading with Ultra-weapons. It's the least interesting and varied PvP meta in the history of the series.

>>152674890
I don't doubt that there will be PVE content. It will be shorter and lower quality because the focus is on PVP.
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>>152675392
the slowest combat out of all the soulslike

it's actually unbearably slow. you could start the centipede demon fight, go make a sandwich, come back and you might be at 75% hp
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>>152675229
i dont think so mate
>why would a pvp focused update would take so much time?
>why would it be called ashes of ariandel when the name has nothing related to an arena?
>why would from do a pvp exclusive dlc when they have shown before how little they care about pvp content?
remember this is miyazacki we are talking about, he doesnt give a fuck about invasions or duels, thats why this news came first, the important shit lore story shit would be revelaed tomorrow
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>>152675392
solaire is gwyn's dad
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>>152675392
clunky combat
enemies attack once every 5 seconds
very good overworld level design
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Why are Great Hammers so shit?

They weigh absurd amounts and do less damage than other Great weapons. Great Axes have the BKGA and Dragonslayer saving them, Ultra Greatswords have the based Profaned Greatsword and Farron Greatsword if you're a memelord. Even regular Greatswords have good weapons. I see a lot of people winning with the Firelink one even though it apparently sucks

Why are the Hammers so ass in comparison?
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>>152663023
>teleports behind you
PSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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>tfw Nioh is too hard
Just try it if you're on PS4. Can't wait for pvp demo
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Is this for real?Will sony make a private dlc for ds 3?Are we going to get cucked?
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>>152675392
After playing all the others, expect it to be very, almost painfully easy.

It's the game where the RPG elements are their absolute strongest and probably the best first-playthrough experience as a result, especially if you play blind.
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>>152675392
Slower pace, but not neccessarily in a bad way.
Poise
Amazing world design and atmosphere
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>>152675492
>why would a pvp focused update would take so much time?
Because they're incompetent.
>>why would it be called ashes of ariandel when the name has nothing related to an arena?
Arandiel could be the place where the Arena is.
>why would from do a pvp exclusive dlc when they have shown before how little they care about pvp content?
I never fucking said "exclusive" you fucking retard. Nobody did. But the focus is gonna be PVP and that's a huge problem.
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>>152675586
>reddit
You should go back there
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I want the pvp exclusive area to be frigid outskirts 2.0 just even larger and it's FFA PvP
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>>152675586
Are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>152675586
>redditors genuinely thought the AotA dlc was pc only and actually got mad over it
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>>152663946
Come the fuck on, man
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>>152675670
So FFA PvP with a huge map?
Dark Souls Royale?
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>>152675586
>wewuzkingzwhiteboi
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>>152675606
>It's the game where the RPG elements are their absolute strongest
that's a funny way of spelling Dark Souls 2.

Y'know... the one with the most varied magic, weapons and armor? The one where literally any build you want is viable? The one with a properly balanced stat system? Maybe you forgot. I doubt it, you're just an idiot.
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>>152675586

Sony have the rights for DeS and BB. Bamco solely owns DkS and they whore themselves out to every platform.
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>>152675682
yes my good sir :)
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will the next DLC have anything to do with londor, angels or the deep, or will it be something completely different that no one wanted or asked for?
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>>152675229
They're in a no-win situation with the arena. Either they lock content behind arena victories (which sucks) or they don't which will kill the arena like DS1's Arena was dead in record time because there was no point to it and the arena was a total waste of level assets. Now they're wasting a whole level into muh honobabbu duelgarbage that shafts over offline players(especially shit for people who have to buy PS+ with the increased prices to get anything out of the area).
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maybe we should just pack it in lads, its just us two and this Lucia fella
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>>152675586
>Believing anyone wih the name: "wewuzkingzwhiteboi"
Come on now.
>>
If it's really arena I can't wait to play against a bunch of naked tryhards rolling around with buffed gotthards and spamming black serpent
>>
What an asshole invader
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>>152675564
Greathammers tend to do more damage than UGS and are more efficient, since all GH are pure-strength and reach comparable AR to a 40/40 profaned GS with only 40-60 strength.
Their core problem is just that their moveset is horrid and their WA is useless. UGS make up for their mediocre damage and other limitations by having actually good rolling attacks and versatile R2s. Greataxes compensate for their extremely limited movesets by being fast and doing huge damage. Greathammers are caught somewhere in between, with the worst movesets but not particularly exceptional damage to compensate.
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>>152675751
>the one with the most varied magic, weapons and armor?
Reskins aren't variety senpai, don't exaggerate it. Though it does have a decent variety.
>The one where literally any build you want is viable?
That's the case for pretty much all the souls games, barring some very specific things.
Unless you mean PvP, but if you care about PvP in a souls game then you have no taste anyway.
>The one with a properly balanced stat system?
I sure do love having to dump a bunch of stat points into ADP just to roll properly, along with horribly extreme starting stats making the early game a pain.
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>SL 15
>Invading the high wall
>Invade a guy on NG+ with a darkmoon already present
Fucking hell
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>>152675751
but darks souls 2 is shit eks dee
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>>152675841
Maybe move to location 2?
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>>152675586
He doesn't even know that the 3 DLCs part of the taiwan interview was a mistranslation, so nah
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>>152675995
>Invade a guy on NG+
how could you tell?
>>
what's the current sl/weapon level meta? still 80/+10?
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>>152676046
yeah but nobody else will turn up anyway :(
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>>152676102
He had a seed of giants active, and the mob one-shot me.
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>>152676146
Moving might be better, Lucia invaded twice in a row and i dont feel like chasing him for another 15 minutes only to see Vlad get forced of a ledge
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Don't forget one of the reasons the ds1 arena was dead it's because you needed to kill artorias without phantoms doing the fight for you

but I honestly wish they do this again to keep the scrubs away
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>>152676206
>Vlad get forced of a ledge
And instantly after that I got invaded and lost 5 mil souls
Fuck I'm mad.
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>>152675835
Nobody played DaS2's arena for the terrible rewards

It was useful because it was a filter, it gave the tryhard metafags a containment zone where they could circlejerk. Because it was less active than iron bridge, you could be reasonably assured that you would encounter the same people over and over when you searched for a match in the arena, which appealed to tryhards who much preferred to fight other tryhards and have close matches than fight people who were just dicking around with fun builds and have boring one-sided curbstomps.

DaS3's lack of an arena dumps all these players into the same hotspot and we all know the result of that. The arena is like a private FC for metafags with none of the same effort on the part of the player to set up. I guarantee you that, just like scholar, every tryhard will buy the dlc and jump ship to the arena just to have a new place to filter out average players and look for other tryhards.
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>>152675586
holy mother of keks

>redditors
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>>152676239
Really? If you kill him with phantoms do you not get the arena? Also when did the arena die? because I remember trying it a few years ago and waiting literally half an hour, and getting 0 matches
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>>152675586
>WeWuzKingzWhiteBoi
I take it none of the faggots who replied to him looked at his name ?
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>>152676345
Psssh
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>>152676441
You couldn't summon phantoms in that area, summoning was disabled for the first two bosses of the artorias dlc, the chimeras, and the man himself
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What are the BEST Dex and Str weapons in DaS3 for PvE?
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>>152676675
longsword
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>>152676345
He a trole
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>>152675938
It's mostly only the one handed moveset that is super shit. 2H does alright damage and has an insane range.

Speaking of insane range, is the Farron Greatsword still good?
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>>152676675
carthus curved sword with bleed resin

>>152676743
nah
he's just a redditor
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>>152676606
>summoning was disabled for the first two bosses of the artorias dlc, the chimeras, and the man himself
What the fuck are you talking about? I was summoned to help with Artorias many, many times.
And I know you can be invaded/invade before the Sanctuary Guardian, so I assume you can summon for it as well.
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>>152676675
If you're going Quality, Profaned Greatsword takes off like an eighth of any boss's health besides shit like Yhorm
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>>152676786
But his comments are downvoted to shit which means he is not a usual redditor
Explain yourself
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the dreams dead, thanks for coming anyway
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>>152676606
Literal bullshit. You could summon for every boss in AotA.

The only thing you couldn't summon for was the double guardian boss repeat that appeared after you cleared the DLC.
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>>152676749
The 2H moveset is just a downgraded version of the UGS moveset.
Slower, less range (due to burying half of your weapon in the ground) but otherwise the same attack angle.
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>>152676924
>double guardian boss repeat that appeared after you cleared the DLC
The true final boss
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>>152676749
>Farron Greatsword still good
It never was.
Fun, yes, but not very good.
>>
>DS3 was released without the pvp content

This explains a few things.
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>>152676943
But you also get a free parrying dagger and that fucking L1
>>
It's official, AoA is just a small bonus DLC with a new PvP area, new spells and weapons. It's not one of the 2 story DLCs, it's separate from them and exclusive to PS4
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>>152670843
Maybe she won't look like a child
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>>152677041
He was talking abot GH, not Farron
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>>152677041
You mean a shitty parrying dagger and a slow, predictable L1.
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>>152677073
>official
>Announcement is on the 24th
are you pulling my chain, my man?
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>>152677041
I was talking about greathammers
Also the farron GS' parry uses medium shield timing, which is to say the worst window. It's pretty much a useless "WA"
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>>152677073
Noooooo, PS4 was supposed to be good!
Why are we getting the cancer DLC? Why are we not treating duelfags like cancer and outright locking their RSS slots permanently?
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>>152677163
Just quoting the post Sony abruptly deleted
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>>152677163
Are you seriously expecting to get any news coming out of the internet prior to the official announcement date that isn't just "that kid" spinning tales for (You)s?

Just don't respond, we have no information beyond the sparse few translated words coming off a leaked famitsu article
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>>152677163
Accidental leak on Sony's twitter earlier today. "Ashes of Ariandel".

Snow-themed DLC with a PvP-exclusive map, some new weapons and spells including a frost storm spell and unidentified greatsword.
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>>152677073

I mean it would not be the first time Sony does this and shills a lot to get exclusive DLC for a game.
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>>152677349
>snow-themed DLC

please stop spreading misinformation, "Ariandel" is the capital city in the land of Mirrah
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>>152677073
>exclusive to PS4
Actually, it's exclusive to PS4 NEO. They dealyed it to October for that very reason.
People on leddit might believe this.
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>>152677432
>"Ariandel" is the capital city in the land of Mirrah
I thought Ariandel was the name of the Profaned Capital before it burned down
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>>152677432
Give source, or stop spreading misinformation.
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>>152674993
did it count?
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>>152677567
nope
>>
Don't blame From. Bamco owns Dark Souls. Bamco accepted the Sony deal and now From has to do that little side DLC for them.
>>
Guys the new DLC is actually PC exclusive, riot games signed a contract with from softwares to make sure it only gets released on their personal computer.
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>>152677520
>stop spreading misinformation
>on 4chan
Go back to >>>/reddit/
>>
How do I get into Dark Souls lore like everyone else? I'm almost done DS1 and and really interested by the conversations happening
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>>152677702
By watching MaatieMovie
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>>152677520
What are you talkning about ? 4chan is THE place to spread misinformation.
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>>152677702
>>152677775

>>152677520
Not him, but where's your source that the DLC is CotIK 2.0?
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>>152677702
You read item descriptions, pay attention to what's going on around you while you play and talk to NPCs. You can use wikis as a great resource for checking descriptions of items you may have missed, or NPC dialogue/questlines you overlooked.
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>>152677602
keep it safe

accidentally found some fancy looking fashion too
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>>152671158
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>>152677840
There isn't. We just have a description of some famitsu images, one of which is said to include what was described as a snow-based spell.
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>>152677642
You're retarded.

>>152677792

Then this is a new thing, because it used to be the best place to sort bullshit from real info.

>>152677840
>CotIK 2.0
Sony's twitter page posted it a day early, then deleted it. There are screenshots.
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>>152677950
>There are screenshots.
Provide some.
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>>152677887
I want to backstab that abomination
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>>152678015
There are some in this very thread you blind nigga
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvQUPdoABrA
Better Vaati at it again.
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Why is Sen's Fortress so fucking cheap and unfair?

I die all the time and those fucking snake girls that shoot lightning give me a raging boner.
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>>152677775
Will he share with me the lore of the land?
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>http://gematsu.com/2016/08/dark-souls-iii-first-dlc-launches-october-25-is-ps4-exclusive

The fuck, why are they deleting all articles related to the DLC ? Was the announcement made too early ?
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>>152677937
>>152677950
We know this

But you're just assuming that cryomancy = Frozen Eleum Loyce 2: electric boogaloo
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>>152678015
I only have a screenshot of the trailer, and that's less than useless.

Less than a day though, I guess. Tomorrow will come, we'll laugh at people who believed one thing or the other while pretending to not be one of them, and everything will carry on as normal.
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>>152675972
>Reskins aren't variety
Good things there's genuine moveset variety that dwarfs DaS1/3
>That's the case for pretty much all the souls games, barring some very specific things.
Not even remotely close to how flexible and open DaS2's mechanics are. Stuff like Spices are a gamechanger. DaS1 had less variety in general and DaS3's balance and viability levels are fucking garbage.
>I sure do love having to dump a bunch of stat points into ADP just to roll properly
Welcome to RPGs anon. Where you have to invest stats to accomplish feats. Shields ask for STR/END. Rolling asks for ADP/END. Perfectly balanced. Better design. Better RPG mechanics.
>making the early game a pain.
I love it when people give me an opening for this: GIT GUD YOU FUCKING SHITTER. I CAN BEAT FOREST OF FALLEN GIANTS IN ONE RUN. KILLING PURSUER AND LAST GIANT AND GRABBING ALL MAJOR LOOT AND ADVANCING CALE AND PATE'S QUESTS. I DO IT THAT WAY ALMOST EVERY TIME.
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Predictions on how this affect the community?

>"optional" content behind arena just like 2, but turns out it's all but mandatory
>arenas are full for a few weeks until everyone gets what they want
>areas get even deader because most faggots will only want to go for muh 1v1s
>they are filled with full tryhardness and hardly stay up at the right levels
>sudden bursts pf activity every few months because some events but that's it
>game manages to die harder than the shitstain that is 2 until the real DLC
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>>152678158
>Was the announcement made too early
No. 23 august = 24 august. 2+2=6
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oh boy can't wait for more weapons to infuse with refined gems and more spells to never use!
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Anyone need/want help on PS3 in DaS1? SL81, at Gwyn now
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>>152676115
>>152676115
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>>152678131
>also has a patreon
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what if the arena automatically chose weapons for you
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>>152678191
>you're just assuming that cryomancy = Frozen Eleum Loyce 2: electric boogaloo
I assumed nothing of the sort. My own guess is that it's some extension of Anor Londo, and the "Immortal Contest" pvp zone thing is Battle of Stoicism 2.
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>>152678260
Didn't know it was supposed to be announced on August 24.
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>>152673498
Frostbite as a concept isn't that bad.

However, here are all the changes that should have happened before release:

>DaS2 infusion (everything can be infused)
>DaS2 scaling
>Faster cast times for miracles, higher base damage, lower mana cost
>make mag-adjust scaling actually make fucking sense
>much greater mag adjust scaling for the items that receive it from multiple stats
>REALLY boost damage of hexes and dark sorceries

>MAKE FROSTBITE INFUSABLE
>make it possible to inflict status effects with slow weapons
>buff poison to do same damage as current toxic does
>buff toxic to do as much damage as it used to
>make toxic inflicting weapons exist
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>>152678276

Nah mate they're all going to be un-infusable shitty frostbite weapons.
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>>152678158
>-is-ps4-exclusive
You added that yourself, you fucking faggot.
At least that's what I hope.
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>>152678156
Imagine how hot femOrnstein would be.
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>>152678276
The saving grave of this weapon is the uninfusable nature of boss weapons.
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>>152678548
http://gematsu.com/2016/08/dark-souls-iii-first-dlc-launches-october-25-japan
he did
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WHO NIOH HERE?
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>>152678254
>Good things there's genuine moveset variety that dwarfs DaS1/3

Dark Souls 2 doesn't have moveset variety. It has two movesets per weapon class, and some weapons that use moves from different classes. If anything, that makes it all even more generic and strips all individuality out of the weapons.

The spells were good, though. They should've put the same effort into weapons that they did into spells.

>>152678495
>frostbite infusion
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>>152678647
>Dark Souls 2 doesn't have moveset variety.
Yes it does.
> It has two movesets per weapon class
That's woefully reductive and factually untrue. There's shitloads of weapons that break that rule. I can tell you haven't played it much.
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>www.shacknews.com/article/96420/dark-souls-3-ashes-of-ariandel-dlc-ps4-exclusive

PCcucks on suicide watch
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>DaS1
>27 STR, 40 DEX, 60 FAI Falchion with DMB
>409 phys + 478 magic AR

>DaS3
>27 STR, 40 DEX, 60 FAI Falchion with DMB
>422 phys + 235 magic AR

What happened?
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>>152678392
>$81 per month
Poor guy.
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>>152678647
>Dark Souls 2 doesn't have moveset variety
That's how we know you never player the game
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>>152678397
Nobody would use it.

People like arenas because it's a designated "tryhard meta tourneyfags go here" zone, and thus the ideal place for tryhards to meet other tryhards and try hard.It shouldn't be made more accessible to the average schmuck because the whole idea is to scare the average schmuck off so that the autistics have a containment zone. That leaves other pvp hotspots to be mainly free of metafaggotry and more about average players trying fun things for fun.

Sort of like how 90% of fights in DaS2's arena were dark-infused Warped Swords, while you literally never saw that weapon on the iron bridge. The only people who used metashit outside of the arena were scrubs that just didn't know better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk9dXVyeNRs
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>>152678724
jajajajajaja ebin
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>>152668324
m i s c h i e f
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>>152678736
they didn't want faith to be viable
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>>152678709
It's as I said. The "moveset variety" is just weapons that borrow moves from other weapon types, like the two ultra greatswords that use the greataxe moveset. And, because of their range and damage type, are just better greataxes.

The only real "variety" didn't come out until the DLCs. The game without the DLCs is trash, and its weapons lack variety.
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>>152678736
ds1 dmb was ridiculously overpowered and i'm thankful that it's gone
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>>152678914
wich dag sol is dis
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>>152678736
>SLB and DMB at their base requirement of 30 faith both add the same damage as the associated resin
>you spend 20 levels just to access a resin that costs half your FP bar to use
It's mind boggling.
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>>152676786
>WeWuzKingzWhiteBoi

really makes you think
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>>152678990
>First it had no variety at all, now it only has no variety before the DLC.

Nice goalpost move fuckstain. Scholar of the First Sin is the definitive version anon. There's literally no point in discussing any other version of the game. That's like discussing DaS1 without AotA/PtDE
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>>152678254
>Good things there's genuine moveset variety that dwarfs DaS1/3
A common myth is that movesets automatically make great variety.
They help, yeah, but ultimately I find gimmicks and cool shit more interesting. There's only so many ways you can change the speed and swing arc of a weapon until it get's boring.
>Not even remotely close to how flexible and open DaS2's mechanics are. Stuff like Spices are a gamechanger. DaS1 had less variety in general and DaS3's balance and viability levels are fucking garbage.
I still don't see where the variety is. All weapons in all the games are viable to beat the game with, and you can do most stat combinations in some way or another.
>Welcome to RPGs anon. Where you have to invest stats to accomplish feats. Shields ask for STR/END. Rolling asks for ADP/END. Perfectly balanced. Better design. Better RPG mechanics.
Except the game is balanced around rolling, not turtling. Rolling is a complete neccessity barring difficult challenge runs. You need the iframes in this game due to the poor hitboxes, so blocking off something literally everyone will need to do behind a stat only slows down the pace of the game or encourages grinding.
>I love it when people give me an opening for this: GIT GUD YOU FUCKING SHITTER. I CAN BEAT FOREST OF FALLEN GIANTS IN ONE RUN. KILLING PURSUER AND LAST GIANT AND GRABBING ALL MAJOR LOOT AND ADVANCING CALE AND PATE'S QUESTS. I DO IT THAT WAY ALMOST EVERY TIME.
The early game isn't hard. It's annoying. Your stats are all over the place, meaning you have to invest heavily into requirements before you can actually think about dedicating your stats to your primary stats.
The shit starting gear doesn't help either, but that's just a different way of doing things.
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>>152679147
>discussing DaS1 without AotA/PtDE
What do you miss without that? Two spells. Gold Tracer.
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>>152679147
DaS1 without AotA had weapon variety. DaS2 SotFS's weapon variety consists of only a few weapons, most of which is only one single attack on an otherwise standard moveset.

Keep at it though, these goalposts are gonna creep right back up again.
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>>152679120
the japanese one
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>>152679285
>What do you miss without that?
Endgame content worth doing.
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>>152679120
2-O
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>>152679120
Ken-sama Souls
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>>152679285
>What do you miss without that?
The DLC bosses, who shit on everything from the base game.
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>releases october 25th
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>>152679595
>>152679404
Weren't you talking about weapon variety?
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>>152679595
They are talking about weapon variety/quality.
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>>152678914
>still forcing his japanese geralt meme
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>The workers in Undead Settlement drop fire gems
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>>152679738
>given gem type is supposed to be are and super difficult to access
>it's a common drop from an earlygame enemy.
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>>152679194
>A common myth is that movesets automatically make great variety.
You're retarded.
> I find gimmicks and cool shit more interesting
That's... good for you? Subjective judgement aren't relevant here.
>I still don't see where the variety is.
Go play the game. I bet you've barely logged 2 playthroughs and never touched NG+.
>Except the game is balanced around rolling, not turtling.
That's completely untrue. Again, you're giving me an opportunity to tell you to stop being such a fucking whiny scrub and obtain proficiency.
>You need the iframes in this game due to the poor hitboxes
Too funny. At this point, I've concluded you're not worth responding to any further. I've argued with you kind a few times before and you're LITERALLY too dumb or stubborn to listen to the FACTS I will lay down.

Enjoy your shitty opinions. You're choosing a world with only 1/2 good Dark Souls titles in it. I don't know why you wouldn't want to have 3. But that's not my problem.

>>152679356
>DaS1 without AotA had weapon variety.
It also had a shitty abrupt and boring endgame and very few actually challenging and engaging bossfights. the DLC was responsible for solving most of the major flaws with the game. Before AotA, there was maybe Gwyn/O&S/Iron Golem/Capra/Taurus. AotA added nearly 40% to the list of good bosses.

Fromsoft SDLC invariably tries to address the shortcomings of the main game. DaS2 needed big zones with lots of good level design and some better weapons. So that's what it got. DaS1 needed more and better bosses and some more endgame... and that's what it got. Bloodborne needed more weapons and a better endgame.,. and that's what it got.

Got the pattern yet? Discussing a Fromsoft game without all it's DLC considered is fucking moronic in all cases. Even if vanilla DaS1 was better than vanilla DaS2, that's a completely empty and irrelevant issue.
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>wolnir spams his smoke breaht
>im at the end of the arena
>he uses his smoke breath again
>literally no way not to die

wow what a well designed boss
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>>152679809
>it's a common drop from an earlygame enemy
Only shriving stones are a common drop.
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>>152679708
It's great. Battle system is pretty cool
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>>152678724
If it was a PS4 exclusive and had the PVP only stuff I wouldn't even mind that. With PC you have to account that there'll be a gorillion hackers intentionally ruining shit for people in the arena and from does literally nothing to stop it.
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>>152680000
Hackers bullying twitchfags in the arena was the best part of PC DaS2.
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>>152679829
And yet, they didn't learn from their past mistakes. Discussing DaS2 without its DLC is valid, because they should've known better from the previous two games.

And even with SotFS, DaS2 has shit weapon variety compared to any of the other games except Demon's Souls. In fact, the closer you look at it the less variety there is.

By the way, don't try to act like From makes the entire DLC from scratch to address whatever turned out wrong in the base game. That's a crock of bullshit and you know it. They hold back content from the release, hash it up a bit to fit with what people are saying is wrong with the game, and release it while hoping for the best. They showed some top-notch surgically precise adjustments with Bloodborne, but DS2 was not the peak of their game and people have every right to accuse it of being bland and samey.
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>>152679829
>You're retarded.
lol nice argument
>Subjective judgement aren't relevant here.
we're arguing about a which video game does something better here, that's inherently subjective
there is no objective metric in rating something like this
>Go play the game. I bet you've barely logged 2 playthroughs and never touched NG+.
I've played it over and over loads. I've probably got 300 or 400 hours logged in it. Only thing I didn't bother with is two of the DLCs, since the first was dissapointing to me.
>That's completely untrue. Again, you're giving me an opportunity to tell you to stop being such a fucking whiny scrub and obtain proficiency.
It's better to dodge than to block in all the souls games
>Too funny. At this point, I've concluded you're not worth responding to any further. I've argued with you kind a few times before and you're LITERALLY too dumb or stubborn to listen to the FACTS I will lay down.
Yeah senpai, nice FACTS like 'you're retarded' you got there.
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>>152679945
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>>152679873
There's a blind spot on his side, between the smoke cloud in front and the smoke cloud behind him.
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>>152679873
how the fuck are you losing agaisnt wolnir?
even the rotten greatwood would be considered harder since you cant pop his balls in a single go, you have to wait for the second transition
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>>152679829
You're not suggesting Iron Golem is a good boss fight are you
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Anyone on Xbox One want to help me rape Aldrich?
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>>152680185
Dark Souls 2 felt like a total conversion mod of the original game with a bunch of interesting new features instead of a true sequel.
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>>152680347
It's actually pretty fun if you don't summon Tarkus.
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>>152680347

>he doesn't like iron golem
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>>152680485
>hit his right leg twice
>hit his left leg twice
>he ded
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This any good for invasions? Or should I take it to 100-120?
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>>152680185
>. Discussing DaS2 without its DLC is valid
No. It's not. That's just a fucking fact. It's only valid if you're discussing it as a comparison to other games without their DLC either. Which is in itself a fucking pointless effort.

>>152680347
He's pretty cool if you don't know about Tower Knight and don 't summon TARKUS

>>152680209
>that's inherently subjective
No. Weapon and moveset variety is NOT subjective. That's why I'm being such a cunt about this.
> I've probably got 300 or 400 hours logged in it
I've got literally double your playtime on the PS3 version alone. Not to mention PC and SotFS on PS4.
>Only thing I didn't bother with is two of the DLCs, since the first was dissapointing to me.
Oh. So you haven't even beaten the game. I bet you haven't even gotten the Aldia ending. Fucking kill yourself, because that's the only option left to you if you're dumb enough to skip a shitload of content and not even beat the game but try to argue about it's merits.
>It's better to dodge than to block in all the souls games
That's because dodging is harder so they reward you more for it. Risk and reward. Timing an action is easier than holding down a button.

Basic fucking game design you idiot.
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>>152680546
>40 faith caster
go pyro or you died
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>>152680531
It's actually pretty fun if your weapons aren't overlevelled, or if you're not using zwei.
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>>152679873
not even ng++ wolnir is hard

should have gone str m8
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>>152680634
Wanted to go 60 but can't do dragonslayer spear as well.

God I miss SM now.
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>>152680694
You can always have a +10 there. I killed him in 3 hits with my longsword.
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>>152680546
>87
too high for invading
>25vig
You have sub-1k health as an invader against squads with +10 weapons, you're going to get dumpstered.
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>>152658617
Time and place?
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>>152680623
>No. Weapon and moveset variety is NOT subjective. That's why I'm being such a cunt about this.
Whether or not movesets makes good variety is a subjective opinion.
>I've got literally double your playtime on the PS3 version alone. Not to mention PC and SotFS on PS4.
Congrats.
>Oh. So you haven't even beaten the game. I bet you haven't even gotten the Aldia ending. Fucking kill yourself, because that's the only option left to you if you're dumb enough to skip a shitload of content and not even beat the game but try to argue about it's merits.
Nah I beat the game ages ago. Nashandra is the final boss.
>That's because dodging is harder so they reward you more for it. Risk and reward. Timing an action is easier than holding down a button.
Well fucking done? My argument is that going for shielding is nowhere near as good as dodging, and you basically need to dodge in the game. Therefore ADP shouldn't be in the game, since a neccessary stat investment is a waste.
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>>152680706
>that citrus twist FUGSicle
Looks tasty
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>>152680748
Fuck it then, going to 125 and doing late game invasions only.
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>>152680706
>Blessed weapon FUGS
MY EYES
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>>152668217
OCTOBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>152680623
Right back to the beginning, then.

Dark Souls 2 with DLC has less weapon variety than Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne, because the majority of weapons have copy-paste hodgepodge movesets and the few unique ones aren't enough to offset 190 stale ones.

Now, remind me how Dark Souls 3 without DLC has worse moveset variety than Dark Souls 2 with DLC, mister "gets caught in basic logic traps".

>Good things there's genuine moveset variety that dwarfs DaS1/3
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>>152679738
>trying to get worker gloves for worker cosplay
>get serveral pieces of the rest of the equip+4 fire gems in the process

I never thought i would've had to farm so much for a pair of gloves
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>>152680836
No. Aldia is.

>>152680939
>Dark Souls 2 with DLC has less weapon variety than Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne, because the majority of weapons have copy-paste hodgepodge movesets and the few unique ones aren't enough to offset 190 stale ones.
This is objectively wrong but I don't have the time or follow-through to create the necessary list of proof. You're uninformed and haven't played the game as much. You're just like that other retard who hasn't even played all the DLC but thinks he should debate the game.
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>At 1.8m SM in DaS2
>Getting summoned to farm Sunlight Medals
>People are summoning me to open the doors in King's Gate and fight the Dual Dragonriders
What the fuck are these niggers doing for this long that they are able to still summon me for this shit
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>>152681065
you want them?
i have a spare, im on pc
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>>152681103
SM-tiers get wider the higher you go. At 1.8mil you're still in range of like 1mils and 1mil is pretty much the bog standard range for first arriving at Drangleic Castle
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>>152681210
>tfw at 3m SM before getting to Drangleic Castle in my first playthrough because blowing a lot of souls upgrading and trying out different weapons and armors
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>>152680901
looks great with untrue ring though
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>ywn slide off those legging
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>>152681542
catdog
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>>152681542
Herald had the cutest design of any levelup waifu. It's a shame her actual character and dialogue were so garbage
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>>152681357
I know, shame you have to "waste" a ring slot for it
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>>152681761
>>152681761
>>152681761
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>>152680485
>>152680530
>>152680623
Okay but we're not gonna compare it to bosses like O&S surely
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>>152681076
Hours of playtime is not a valid argument. I have over 2,000 hours of countable playtime, and that isn't counting all the save files I deleted to make room for more. This picture is from over a year ago, if you're wondering how little ground your argument holds.

Ah, but here I am trying to reason with a guy who said Dark Souls 3 has less weapon variety than SotFS, shortly before saying you can't compare a game without DLC to a game with DLC. You honestly believe your playtime argument is valid because you're an idiot.

You should try to make that necessary list of proof, so that you can see for yourself how terrible the weapon variety is. I used to think DaS2's weapons were good, then I tried to do exactly that and saw how little effort Fromsoft put into it.
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>>152681974
>a guy who said Dark Souls 3 has less weapon variety than SotFS, shortly before saying you can't compare a game without DLC to a game with DLC.
Factually true statements aren't the same as qualitative judgement. What I said was factually true. There's no contradiction going on.
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>>152682139
It's factually true that you contradict yourself whenever your arguments are examined too closely.

I see you dropped the playtime angle, too.
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>>152682261
I never brought it up. I only responded to a dick-measuring contest by proving that mine was biggest.

There's no contradictions, only your own catastrophically damaged and inadequate brain.
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>>152681076
>No. Aldia is.
Last I checked, you can hit the ending cinematic with Nashandra.
Nashandra is a final boss, and beating her means you beat the game.
Not to mention that on release, there was no Aldia.
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>>152682440
>Last I checked, you can hit the ending cinematic with Nashandra.
Nashandra end is the bad end. Next you're gonna tell me that Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow's final boss is that pyrokinetic guy.

The ending that requires you to beat all the bosses and content is the "real" ending.
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>>152682396
>can't compare games pre-dlc because fromsoft fixes everything with their dlcs

This undermines the entire point you were trying to make about DS3 having less weapon variety compared to DS2: SotFS.

>GIT GUD YOU FUCKING SHITTER. I CAN BEAT FOREST OF FALLEN GIANTS IN ONE RUN. KILLING PURSUER AND LAST GIANT AND GRABBING ALL MAJOR LOOT AND ADVANCING CALE AND PATE'S QUESTS. I DO IT THAT WAY ALMOST EVERY TIME.
>I bet you've barely logged 2 playthroughs and never touched NG+
>I only responded to a dick-measuring contest by proving that mine was biggest

Looks like you started the dick-measuring contest with that other anon as a way to undermine their statements without actually responding to their arguments, and are now trying to pawn it off on him because you know mine's bigger and measuring isn't going to help you.

By the way, that's another contradiction. Feel like going for a third, or should we let it rest now?
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>>152682993
>Looks like you started the dick-measuring contest
No. I responded to invalid complaints that were based on the poster's lack of skill by telling him that he's a whiny scrub. That's a valid response when somebody is a whiny baby.
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>>152683105
It is never a valid response, and that poster's complaints could only look like they were based on a lack of skill by someone who views everything as thought it were a dick measuring contest. Someone who peppers every response with irrelevant insults that do nothing to address the actual point being discussed and reflects only their own insecurity and all-consuming need to feel validated whenever anyone questions something they like.

Which applies to 4chan and half the internet in general, I guess.

Ad hominem is a logical fallacy for a reason; it has no merit as an argument, can neither prove nor refute, and serves only to show how idiotic the speaker is.
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>>152683105
>No. I responded to invalid complaints that were based on the poster's lack of skill by telling him that he's a whiny scrub. That's a valid response when somebody is a whiny baby.
You blatantly misunderstood my post. I said the starting game was a pain, not difficult. Not everything is about 'le git gud xD' with souls games. People are allowed to complain about something being a slog and boring to get through without having mouthbreathers calling them a scrub.
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>>152683542
>It is never a valid response,
Discussion over then. You're not worth my time if you think that way. When people make complaints like "DAS2 early game is too hard" you can call them a whiny scrublord shitter and ignore them. That's how it works. Would you give the time of day to somebody who couldn't effectively tackle complex language and vocabulary within a book who then proceeded to say the book was dumb and boring and made no sense?
>Ad hominem is a logical fallacy for a reason
It's not ad hom when it relates to valid issues within the discussion. He is wrong and it because he is unaware of how bad he is at the game. He is criticizing the game where he should be blaming himself.
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>>152683763
>It's a pain!
This is a deflection. It's what scrubs use to try and act like they're aren't bad.

>DaS2 isn't hard! It's just TEDIOUS!
Kill yourself.
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>>152681910
>Queelag fury sword +5
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>>152683831
>thinks attacking the speaker instead of refuting their arguments is ever valid
Go back to school, you need to relearn both basic logic and reading comprehension.

Discussion is over, yes, because you can't effectively tackle complex language structure as it relates to simple logical processes.
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>>152683958
You're right. Anyone who calls anything bad or boring, is simply bad at the game.
I'm starting to think this is all just an elaborate ruse.
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>>152684126
His argument's logic is based on his own lack of ability. He is betraying his lack of skill and understanding relating to the subject matter by saying what he has said.

It isn't ad hominem when the attack relates to the issue at hand. You're so fucking stupid and pretentious simultaneously, it's astounding. I fucking hate this cowardly social atmosphere that academics promote nowadays. Nobody can ever speak the truth for fear of somebody getting his feelerinos bruised. Iy a person can't even understand the subtext of a story, is he even really in allowed to make contributions to a discussion of that story? Being unable to cope with gameplay is the same thing.
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>>152684376
>>152684126

For example, if somebody thinks Animal Farm is just a story about talking farm animals, do we have to entertain their opinion? No. We can call them retards and move on.
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>>152681608
wat?
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>>152684376
Adaptability/agility was a shit mechanic that made the game worse, and a bad player saying so doesn't make it false. "It's an RPG" does not begin to justify a stat that actively works against the player until they've invested 20 levels into it.

Calling someone an idiot does nothing to refute the argument, it only demonstrates your own cowardly inability to consider any idea that doesn't come from your own mind. There is never a time nor place for calling someone retarded; this has nothing to do with "protecting their feelings", and more to do with the fact that any misunderstanding can be corrected by linking them to whatever past source or argument has already addressed whatever point they're trying to raise. By not doing that and instead attempting something as useless as ad hominem, you gained no ground for your own side, did nothing to convince or even educate the other side, and the only thing you did accomplish was to reinforce your own narcissistic womb-bubble.

I fucking hate cowards like you, who are too afraid to even consider the ideas of anyone else and too self-centered to ever try helping anyone. You're so pretentiously elitist you actually make the world more stupid just by existing.
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>>152685173
Adaptability was an excellent mechanic designed to benefit players who were playing with less armor.

Did you ever think about why poison scaled with DEX/ADP?
Because light-rolling poison (or bleed to a lesser extent) characters would be coerced down a skill path that would benefit their unique playstyle.

Adaptability was not a necessity, but I certainly wouldn't play without it because it fits my playstyle.

You're just not thinkin deeply enough about the developer's intention behind game mechanics.
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>>152676675
Refined sellsword twinblades are pretty good
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>>152688454
I already have lucy's tripcode filtered. While it wouldn't surprise me to see lucy change his trip again just to circumvent a filter, he's too empty inside to post in a dead thread where no one would see him.

Also, he types faggier than that, and at least tries to make sense even though he's bad at it.
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>>152680367
what sl?
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>>152688831
Listen dingo,
This is about Adaptability and how you fail to understand the purpose of the mechanic.

Is there something I said that you can't seem to grasp, you fucking hollow?
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>>152689017
Nvm I got it
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>>152689195
Yeah, see, I've known (and hated) lucy for a long time. This isn't lucy, and I'm not falling for it.
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