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Previous >>152491176

Event part 2 details
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/zvlr28/

>[White Beach of Healing from 11.8 to 31.8]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160811.php#nav
- Fuyuki must have been cleared to access the event
- Welfare Scat Assassin 4* as reward
- New mystic code [Brilliant Summer]
- New ascension material added [Shell of Recollection] required for ascending the time limited servants
- Summer Gacha part 1:
Tamamo no Mae Lancer 5*
Anne Mary Archer 4*
Mordred Rider 4*
Kiyohime Lancer 4*
Everyone is limited.
-Event CEs:
5* Carmilla CE: Crit dmg up by 15% and 30% NP at the start of battle - Water and Food +1
5* Drake CE: Ignore Invul. and gives 3 stars per turn - Iron +1
4* Evil Cat CE: Evasion (1 hit) and Quick up by 8% - Stone +1
3* Boobyca CE: Defense and Arts up by 3% - Wood +1
All CEs will gain a second effect during the second part of the event
For material bonus see: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oept0VLDr00R7cUQE4tXus7dgCMdFjPq7HUbtFXwcSo/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones, & androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/xbalo9/
- Shakes, Phantom, Benkei, Ceasar, ROMA, Tesla, Curry Bros., Frank and Lancer Alter to bond 10

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Translations Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/URc62gex

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info

>Alternate servant/CE database
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>Complete materials
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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>FP gacha
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>Just a little lonely.

What did they mean by that?
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Tamamo!
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I love my waifu.
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>>152532080
Poor Agravain, he has to work while his fellow knights and his king enjoy the summer.
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Hassan thread.
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Xth for best archer
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>>152531906
GAAAAAY
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>>152532248
cute thread
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>>152527197
Seigi no Mikata-anon, could you answer this?
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>>152532080
I wish he was summonable.
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Umu!
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>>152532238
And best lancer/ archer duo
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>>152532080
Someone stop Bedivere from eating that
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tits
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xth for best Saberface, best Saber, Rider, Lancer, best waifu!
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>>152531906
>the good old times before everything went to shit
We need for those two to sit down and have a long talk about their lives. It would be quite emotional.
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>>152532513
I want to bury my face in those while Saber Arturia watches, jealous.
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>>152532417
>no servant
>no CE
>no mention
Truly dead.
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>>152532080
cute pic
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Another chart for the new stuff
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>>152532317
Me on the left
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Best boy.
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>>152532458
Only because I want the dust it was made out of.
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>>152531906
Best Lancer
>https://youtu.be/LHTVwBoPmFQ
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>tfw this was on my alt
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>>152532417
Maybe next year.
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who /waking up in 5 hours/ here?
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>>152532682
Can we have that sorted by star rating in a spreadsheet again?
That chart is not intuitive at all
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>>152532053
His only fan is you, i'd feel pretty lonely too.
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Are we getting a new apk for part 2 of the event or is it the same one?
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How long until maintenance?
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a few hours until maintenance
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>>152532347
Per card.
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>>152532816
Can't you just look at the character and know?
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>>152532639
Mordred mentions her.

>>152532759
Guess we can only have one Beach Flower: EX a summer.
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>>152532682
>Doesn't have Li Shuwen or Nitocris or Angra Mainyu.

Which retard made this.
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>>152532682
fuck this shit I have no cement servants and my only leveled blue brick servants are martha and cake. Actually, where's cake in this one?
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>>152533002
Do you not understand what intuitive means?
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>>152533009
>implying people cares about whores
Tamamo got EX because she's a sun deity
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>>152532682
That silver thing is going to be hell to farm.
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>>152532839
I'm sure somebody other than me here at least likes clown a tiny bit.

Just a little.
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>>152533105
>implying Tamamo isn't a whore when her backstory has her as a literal prostitute
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Pic related as a grand order servant when?

HIMURA!!!
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>>152533104
You're being pushy
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>>152532458
He worked hard to make it, you shouldn't waste.
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>>152532628
I like the way you think.
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>>152533146
>have vlad, altera, both alters, da vinci book and fuuma fully leveled for it
I have literally nothing for cement though, I might not be able to clear the shop
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>>152533156
No, just you.
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>>152533156
Just a bit
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>>152533268
>tfw there's no dust in the shop because he used it all making shaved ice
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>>152532757
Been playing 7 months and not a single SRR... I have Frankenstein though so I guess it's okay
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>>152533156
Who?
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>>152533156
You're not alone, anon.
Crazy Koyasu is up there on my favorites list.
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No golds edition
4/5 on the black metal, no serenity or bedivere
9/5 on the gold
7/5 on the silver
19/5 on cement
10/5 on oil

So that dark metal is the most unbalanced towards hoarders
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Whos ready for Brawler Martha?
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Have KO-Gil and David as my only archers. Who would I ascend?
KO-Gil
>cuter
>better Buster
>useless skills

David
>one of the most useful skillsets
>worse damage
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>>152532248
It's friendship through knighthood though, clearly Gawain saving Lancelot from his fall out the window after seeing guinevere for the first time.
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>>152533838
>Ko-Gil cuter than David

Grail ascend the jew already
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>>152533838
skills > everything else
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>2 great successes in a row while leveling mordred

Am I going to die?
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>>152533820
I want jellyfish princess Marie
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>>152534170
No, but you should roll right this second.
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>>152524554
Have you actually used her? ABB gives over 30% NP.
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>>152534290
>inb4 he gets normal Mord
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>>152532682
Let's see, I've got 10 for bags of sand, 7 for oil drums, and about 4 for each metal bar.

As for mats, it's... 1 for blue, 1 for gold, 3 for silver. And 2 of the Carmilla CE, assuming that works for sandbags+oildrums.
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>>152534361
By that logic Scat has also good NP gain.
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>>152534432
She does.
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Any differences between rolling all at once and spreading out your rolls on different days?
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>>152531760
>can reach her final ascension now because there will be hearts in the upcoming shop
feels great.
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>>152534406
Carmilla CE does not work for part 2
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what skills of tamamo lancer is worthy ascend ?
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>>152534475
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>>152534542
Really? God dammit. I was hoping its absence was just an oversight.
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>>152534290
>>152534373
I got shit. What now.
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>>152534556
all of them
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>>152534590
Well meme'd my /b/ro.
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>>152534556
Ironically >selfstun and >charge enemy NP scale the best with levels
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>>152534615
Buy more quartz.
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>>152534615
What kind of shit did you get? a CE or a servant you already had?
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>>152533838
Ko-Gil has a cuter all-around voice, but David has a cute card selection. But hearing Ko-Gil say "hai!" is really cute too.
Just max Ko-Gil, he has tummy.
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>>152534556
The one that gives the enemy NP charge, it reduces cooldown so you can do it more times!
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>>152532682
>1st 4 maxed servants
>2nd 6 maxed servants
>3rd 1 maxed servants (only bodi)
>4th 8 maxed servants
>5th 2 maxed servants
huh.
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>>152534663
If you consider that good NP gain you are wrong, they both get a decent amount with their only arts card, even more if it crits but it's not enough to fill it without help.
also
>using buster cards to get NP charge
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>>152534710
>charge enemy's NP
If she didn't have a single target NP she'd be the Astolfo of the 5* crowd. Literally worse than Amakuzu.
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>>152534930
>using things that work
Shocking, I know.
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>>152535182
>unironically using a ABB chain
You could just assume her NP gain is fine but gets shafted by having only 1 arts card and use a waver you know?
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Found this in a pile of screenshots I had forgotten about. I wonder how high it can go now that I can get her to level 100?
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>>152535334
Please let him show up in the next episode tomorrow.
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>>152535369
You must suck at this game if you think Arts chains are the only way one should gain NP.
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>>152535334
Yes.
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>>152535510
Not that anon, but don't Buster cards give you less NP than Arts or Quick?
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>>152535510
Yeah sure, keep getting 30% NP bar every 3 turns, maybe in 9 you will have enough for 1 NP
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>>152535510
Other options are generally the exception, not the rule.

And Kiyo isn't anywhere close to Jack or Okita's level of NP gen on Quicks.
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>>152532682
9 Iridium Bar - Arthuria, and the assassins (Only Shuten and Mata are useable.). Guess i have to whip out Martha again.

18 Gold Bar - Almost all my Archers huh? Well that's fine. Jack and Stheno, Minamoto should take care of most things.

7 Rusty Iron Bar (I think that's a rusty iron bar) - Shiki, Boudica, Medea are my only levelled ones. Good god. This one will be a pain.

21 Cement - Mashu, Medusa, Emiya, Hans. Wow they got this covered. Koujirou too.

19 oil - Jeanne Alter, Rider Kintoki, Kiyohime, Caster Liz, Drake, Nobunaga and Liz. Weird combination, but Jeanne Alter+Nobunaga and Cursed Arm Hassan for Crits. Kiyo and Drake for clearing.


As far as CEs go, only 1 Fue CE from previous gacha. Well thats going to suck. Hopefully i get some CEs later.
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>>152534510
Only if you believe in the time meme
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>>152532437
Man, I want a bro like Karna to take cool as fuck chuuni pictures of me.
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>>152535656
As opposed to Li who gets around the same with AQA?
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>>152535936
>Brave Chain NP gen meme
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>>152535334
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>>152535609
It gives less but Kiyohime hits so many times on her Busters that they far outstrip a shitter like Li.
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>>152535936
All lancers seem to suffer of the same problem of having difficulties using their NPs.
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>>152535926
Your too ugly to be chunni.
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>>152536103
Except Arturia Lancer, who builds gauge the fastest out of any Lancer, but she has the problem of her NP being shit and not worth using instead.

DW 'balance', everyone.
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>>152536081
It just hits 4 times, that isn't even remotely enough to compare it to a quick NP gain.
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>>152535334
>>152535546
>>152536076
cringe
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>>152536224
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>>152536031
>Li is only good when you pair him with other Arts memers (because according to you he shouldn't be generating NP on his own) and other Crit memers (since he only gets 17 stars with QAQ and crits are all he has going for him)
Impressive.
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>>152536309
Better than Kiyo, who isn't good on any team.
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>>152536193
NP INTERLUDE WHEN
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>>152536309
>crits are all he has going for him

Not even that. Kiyohime will do the roughly same damage on her Buster crits as he does with his Arts crits.

Don't even need to bring Lancer Alter into the equation.

When will Arts and Quick memers stop being in denial that they wasted their mats and exp raising their meme Servants?
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>>152536309
You talk like if Kiyo could do any better.
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why are AoE NPs memes
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>>152536416
Li can gobble up crit stars when he needs to, Kiyo has to fight against the RNG being stacked against her.
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>>152536385
>Implying DW makes interludes anymore
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>>152536385
Never because DW are super lazy fucks who don't want to sit down and write those interludes.
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>>152536362
Whatever you say, Artsmemer. At least Kiyo can fit on way more teams than Shuwho because she can actually do things on her own.
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>>152536416
>implying Kiyo can even crit with that awful crit weight
>implying a buster of kiyo with no crit buff can do the same damage than any Li card with 100% crit damage
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>>152536416
>>152536540
nice try Nguyen
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>>152536540
>because she can actually do things on her own.
Do what, use Busters? Berserkers do it better, so why bother using Kiyo?
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>>152536506
Kiyo is the one who's going to be generating stars, while also trying to build NP not eating them up.
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>>152536574
>>152536506
>replying to Kiyohime posters
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>>152536506
>>152536574
>not fielding Kiyohime with low crit-weight Berserkers for those sweet sweet Buster chains.
>thinks 100% crit damage is enough to have Arts cards outperform Buster cards in damage
kek
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>>152536506
Kiyo's damage isn't pathetic outside of crits, so she doesn't have to rely on them.
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>>152536540
>>152536623
>do things on her own
>generating stars

>2 hits quick
>below average NP gain
>awful star rate
>useless first skill
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>>152536524
If anyone is going to get an Interlude, it'll be an Arturia.
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>>152536450
Because they're actually useless in gameplay even if AoEfags will pretend they need it for 'mooks'.
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>>152536574
Next you're going to tell me LI can crit 50k every turn. You're entering Melvin levels of shitposting, Artsmemer.
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>>152535501
He's dead Jim
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>>152536702
>only quick cards can gen stars
I suggest you actually play the game sometime.
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Can someone tell me where the f*** I can find damage percentages for each Arts servants?
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>>152536651
You are either baiting or making a real shit team.
>>thinks 100% crit damage is enough to have Arts cards outperform Buster cards in damage
If you do the math the damage gaps only exist if both cards have the same crit damage.
>>152536769
He can crit 50k, not every turn because the crit weight only lasts one turn.
Still much more damage than Kiyo will ever do
>Artsmemer
I don't even use him that much, but it's easy to recognize that he's miles better
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>>152536872
Fuck off.
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200 quartz in but no Martha. Why can't I access the second questline yet either?
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>>152536872
You're average Arts user, everyone.
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>>152536872
Fuck off
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>>152536121
>Your too ugly to be chunni.

You're too much of a retard to be posting here, kiddo.
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>>152536975
>you're
Nice fail, anti-artsfag.
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>>152536872
>f***
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>>152536860
Arts cards barely generate 2 stars at most, and not even Kiyo's Busters generate anywhere close to enough stars to produce a comfortable crit rate the following turn.
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>>152536860
>I suggest you actually play the game sometime.
Are you serious?
Literally the only way of getting stars is with quicks, because busters and quicks can only get 3 or 4 at most with multiples hits.
>>152536872
>>152536975
Nice samefagging, I sure didn't notice the time gap.
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Is Lancer Arturia's NP good if you give her a Black Grail or Heaven's Feel?
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The only good thing to come out of this waifucuck event.

Finally, I managed to ascend best Servant. He even said kansha.
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>>152536902
>He can crit 50k, not every turn because the crit weight only lasts one turn.
And on all those turns where he doesn't crit, Kiyo will be out damaging him, and in the end do more damage overall.
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>>152536872
How about you f*** off yourself, fucktard.
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>>152536450
They are not. They just don't hit as strong as a single target NP. AOE has helped me a lot in Camelot or dealing with high HP mooks.
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>>152537068
Still shit. Use either a single target Lancer or Lancer Alter instead, they outperform Arturia in every way possible.
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>using a Berserker that is neither a 4* or 5*

they're made of paper
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>>152537021
>doesn't know the you're meme
fuck off newfriend
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>>152537053
>he doesn't know how /vg/ posting cooldown timer works
wew
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>>152536769
>50k
That's old news, memer.
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>>152537117
With what, 7k per buster in neutral damage?
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>>152537215
3*s function well enough to clear hands
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>m-m-muh gameplay
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>>152537207
>not killing mooks more quickly with single target NPs
AoE memers kek
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>>152536975
>trying this hard
>you're
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>>152537103
I know they're friends and all, but Nasu needs to stop commissioning that guy for top tier Servants. I mean really, imagine how much better Saber Lancelot, Dantes, and Cu Alter could have looked.
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>>152537021
>being this new
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>>152537284
Based
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>>152537284
>579 hp
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>>152537357
There is nothing wrong with how Dantes looks
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>>152536872
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>>152537357
>Dantes
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>>152536872
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>>152537053
>Literally the only way of getting stars is with quicks, because busters and quicks can only get 3 or 4 at most with multiples hits.
No you dumb nigger, it depends on hits. Scat can 20+ stars with QBB.
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>>152537487
Because her Buster hits 6 times, and even then the Extra attack is the one that gets most the stars because it has a quick star rate and the buster hits.
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>>152537302
Yes because Li will be doing far less than that when he's not critting.
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>>152536103
>All lancers
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>>152537117
>Kiyo will be out damaging him, and in the end do more damage overall.
No, she won't. Not when she has a harder time generating crits, using crits, and generating NP than Li has.

>>152537337
It takes a minimum of three single-target NPs to kill a full wave. It takes a minimum of one AoE to do so.
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>>152537369
>I was only pretending to be ESL

Still retarded
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post smug
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>>152537021
fuck off newfag
>fail
fuck off underage
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>>152537614
yeah but with a crit he can do more damage than what Kiyo is doing in 6 turns without critting
>>152537672
Servants like Jeanne alter. Cu and Kintoki can kill a wave with BBNP, the extra attack kill the one that's missing.
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>>152536450
It just depends on how you use them, I guess. I have two Kaleidos so I slap them on Void Shiki and Lancer Alter, and use a support Arjuna/Mordred with Kaleido since they have NP charge skills. Add Hogwarts costume to that and I can farm QP and EXP in three turns 95% of the time.
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>>152537338
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>>152537487
>Scat can 20+ stars with QBB.
That's garbage for a Quick team.
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>>152537357
I think Sanson looks pretty good though
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>>152537726
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>>152537726
Fuck off smugposter
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>>152537828
Nobody cares about Sanson though
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>>152537726
I'm afraid this is all I can spare.
>>152537780
>a shit meme isn't shit
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>>152537672
>Not when she has a harder time generating crits, using crits, and generating NP than Li has.
She does all of this better except for using crits.
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>>152537904
she doesn't
Li is better at getting np bar with Arts chains
Both get almost no stars unless you use a brave chain
Li can get the stars for himself and crit real hard
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>>152537446
>>152537460

I have nothing against his design, but I just don't like the art style. Just about every fan art makes him look so much better.

Same thing with Nightingale. Everything about her is perfect. The design, the voice, the animations, the lines, but god damn does the art look like dogshit.
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So seein as I have no cement servants leveled, should I focus on doing the low APs from the very beginning and then rushing every other mat or leave it for last?
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>>152537904
And she can do the last better too by using a crit weight CE on her since she doesn't need any help boosting her tremendous hitting power, unlike a certain limp-wristed chink.
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>>152538029
leave it for last
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>>152538015
Why didn't anyone notify me that Melvin had moved on from Lancelot to Li?
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>>152538087
alright. Fuck I hope the chains and hearts aren't cement, I might have to kill myself
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Just a few more hours.
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>>152538075
>gimping yourself with a crit weight CE when you could be using Kaleido or a damage up CE
>no crit damage
Gotta love these Kiyocucks, and I don't even use Li.
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>>152538026
Real shame about Nightingale. Dynamite body and all that.
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>>152538172
JETS thought he was a Gilfag who pretended to be a Jetsfag to make JETS look bad.
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>>152538075
>Using a crit weight CE
They're pretty much universally garbage, because by using them you are sacrificing better potential effects. While Kiyo has to waste her CE slot with Sealing Designation Enforcer of Professor and Me, Li can instead use something like Another Ending or Lunar Hot Springs.
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>>152538026
Dantes is the literal Dangan Ronpa artist you dum dum
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>>152537357
Dantes isn't even drawn by Shimadrill.
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>>152538231
W E W
I am so sad about this now.
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>>152538212
>frogposting
I didn't expect Lifags to the underage ones.
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>>152538075
>crit weight CE
embarassing
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>>152538241
the thread doesn't rotate around you. gilfags don't care actually.
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>>152538026
Eh I guess each on their own.
I am used to DR art so I think it looks pretty ok.
In fact,I am looking forward to see how Cleo turn out since I like Komatsuzaki's girl design.
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>>152538351
At least I can make my Li crit for 50 per hit in BAA chain :^)
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huah
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>>152538378
Yes, JETS is aware of that but that "melvin" fellow & his "wews" were pretty bad. If the Gilfags wanted to make JETS look bad, Melvin would have already done their job for them & better than they could have. I find Melvin's behaviour so retarded that I can only hope he's pretending.
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>>152538528
Right after having Jack generate some stars for you, right?
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>>152538558
>why we're not in the swimsuit event
shouldn't that be "why're we"? also there's a couple of thes and as mixed up
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>>152538597
With a crit weight skill 20 stars are enough to secure some crits
if anything You'd need Jack to make Kiyo crit anything.
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>>152538582
No one spends every day for almost a year "pretending" to be retarded.
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>>152538212
>>152538284
She doesn't need crit damage or damage boosters like Li because her Buster cards hit for much harder. Face it Lifags, the chink lancer is just an average gold Lancer.

Not his fault that his Arts design gimped him though, blame DW for not making him Buster.
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>>152538528
>>152538713
Yeah, every 6 turns.
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>gameplayfags
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>>152538763
Lifags BTFO
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>>152538763
More than Kiyo will ever aspire to crit.
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>gameplayfags
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>>152538735
So he's really that retarded? That is horrifying.
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All this talk of AoE made wanna play AoE during maintenance, fuck
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>>152538874
She doesn't need to. She has a perma 12% Bester buff, and 3/5s of the game she will have an additional 30% Buster buff. And even more damage if you use her first skill.
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>>152538896
>>152538846

Get out.
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>>152538761
Her Busters actually don't if you waste your CE on crit weight and give Li something with crit damage.
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>>152538997
>BBQQA deck
She's using that damage 2 times every 3 turns,
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>>152538707
A lot of it is kind pretty awkward and overly literal as well.
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>waifucucks
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>I had 150 fou cards from the FP gacha
No wonder I was always short on space
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>>152539108
+ her NP, which is better than 1 time every 6 turns.
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>>152539013
Don't be such a tsundere mafia-kun
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>watch this because apparently it's what the nasuverse used for ozzy's backstory
>it's a shitty meme movie with gay ass disney princess singing
What the fuck is it with Japan and shit taste?
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>>152539190
NP that she can't charge because she needs a crit weight CE
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>>152539190
Didn't we establish that Kiyo was maybe going to generate one NP every 9 turns?
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>>152539282
>he hadn't already seen it
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>not just using Jack plus two zerkers
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>>152539282
The only ones here with shit taste are you and the Kiyofags.
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We will finally own Scat once part 2 starts?
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>>152539282
>dissing 2d dreamworks
Off yourself motherfucker
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>>152539282
What's it like being a degenerate?
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>>152539290
More like every 3 if we're talking only about her. She's going to be taking damage and gaining NP from there, and since she has better HP than the chink, she can take more damage.
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I'm asking since the supplies will likely let me a make a few extra. Which one would better suit Robin? I like the roughness and color of A but B suits the illustration better. http://imgur.com/a/IVWee

>>152539428
Yes, as long as you completed the island development. You'll trade in Gay Bulge replicas for more copies.
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>>152539495
>and since she has better HP than the chink, she can take more damage.
He has a dodge, and she has a skill that buffs the enemy's ATK.
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>>152539282
You are supposed to have already seen it, so it's kind of a nostalgia thing
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>>152539340
>>152539392
>>152539440
>>152539451
>ozzyfags
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JETS is wondering, what's the scariest thing /fgog/ has seen in Fate?
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>>152539282
>Having this much shit taste
Kill yourself, degenarate.
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>>152539080
>+42% Buster for 3 turns and 12% the other 2, on top of the 1.5x Buster damage bonus, is worse than +50% Arts and +120% crit damage for only one turn out of six (with CE).

This is what Lifags actually believe.
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>>152539571
A doge that if he uses to ave his ass, he will have wasted 1 precious turn of having crit weight, and then he will have to wait 6 more turns to get a chance to crit.
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>>152539613
Vagina worms.
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My fucking heart, how can a girl be so cute?
I want to commit a crime.
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>>152539613
Every thread
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>>152539613
Scary as in OOGA BOOGA or scary as in one of those things you realize lying awake at 3 in the morning?

Because the latter goes to Solomon. I still don't know how the fuck you're gonna beat him.
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>>152539613
The huge amount of secondaries
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>>152539282
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>>152539495
>she has better HP than the chink
HP is the most useless stat in the game. You might as well say that Arturia Lancer is better than Lancer Alter because she can take more hits and use more NPs.
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>>152539707
Marinate.
Eggs.
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>>152539613
After not coming here for quite a while the scariest thing I saw from the Fate was the fanbase here that accepted your retard ways of trying to be cute by saying JETS.
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>>152539613
Dick worms. They just sound horrific no matter which sex you are.
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When does main start?
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>>152539543
B, seems practical.
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>>152539836
>implying JETS wasn't accepted even back on /a/
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>>152539678
Or you just get your crits and take getting to eat a turn's worth of hits without taking damage as a side benefit.
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>>152539707
It is not a crime if she is a nursery rhyme, for now at least.

>>152539613
Laws. Each month they seem to add something that can fuck you over easier than ever before.
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>>152539707
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>>152539836
We never accepted it so much as we just fucking gave up. Every time he gets mass ignored he just starts shitting up the thread and replying to himself.

If you can get rid of him, by all means. But we've already tried.
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>>152539941
Dumb ESL.
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>>152539907
Half an hour or so.
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>>152539847
What if you're pic related's currently undefined gender?
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>>152539613
The fanbase, especially the Fsnfags who think that a porn with shonen clichés is somehow superior to Fate Zero written by GODbuchi.
They are such delusional manchildren.
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>>152539282
My historian side will never allow me to watch this movie. Probably for the best, as the even the slightest historical inaccuracies trigger me. Ironic though that this doesn't interfere with my enjoyment of the Fate series.
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>>152539993
That loli should have practiced her jump shot
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>>152539917
Thank you Anon.
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>>152540031
>calls someone an ESL
>ave
>doge
kek
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600,000 FP later, no serenity or riceman or ninja
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>>152540010
Yep, yet another one. Is it so hard to tell the difference between JETS & "wew"? JETS was here before /fgog/ was even made unlike the other guy.
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>>152540128
Ramses II probably wasn't even the pharaoh of Exodus in the first place.

It's just a movie, you should really just relax.
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>>152539836
People tolerate him, because just like other(or same) Jetfag, he's not going to go away magically. No matter what response you give him or don't give him, he'll still keep doing this shit even if he has to reply to himself.
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>>152540229
>nobu a shit
>kek
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Been busy as balls, plus trying to correct two decades of retarded hunt-land-peck typing style, so typing anything takes me forever as I relearn how to write. I hope the rest of the event doesn't have too much plot...

>Development Plan 5 – Farms

Scathach says you should start working on ensuring a stable source of food ingredients, so you ought to build a vegetable garden for starters since it’s easier than grain farming.

>Kiyohime: “That would normally mean daikon radishes, right? Daikon can be used for many recipes, like boiling, or stewing or putting them in miso soup. As my loving home cooking… that is, as my ingredients enter through Master’s mouth, progress down your throat and penetrate your stomach, merging with each and every one of your cell, Master and I would merge into one being… Ahh, would it not be right to call it a union between Master and I!?”

By “union”, she means sexual congress. No, it’s not ambiguous.

>Mashu: “…”
>Arturia: “I see, daikon is it? That’s right, I do like Buri Daikon.”

>Ann: “We’d like cabbages.”
>Mary: “Cabbages won’t lose to daikon as far as the number of different uses goes.”
>Ann: “And they’re like a saviour messiah while sailing.”
>Mashu: “…?”
>Arturia: “I see, cabbages. I do like cabbage rolls.”

>Mordred: “Oi oi, wait. Aren’t you all forgetting something really important?”
>Mashu: “Meaning?”
>Mordred: “Meaning that it’s summer! This is an island! There’s only one thing we should be making then! Watermelons!”
>Protagonist: “Now that you mention it, watermelons are vegetables too…”
>Scathach: “…Oh? I see, now that you mention it… hum, it might be interesting to give it a try.”
>Arturia: “I see, watermelons. I’m one of those that don’t eat them with spoons.”

And as usual it’s up to you.
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>>152540128
It's inaccurate as fuck but it's literally the only adaptation of the Exodus where the Pharaoh isn't a one dimensional thundercunt. Probably why they used it for Ozzy.

You actually sympathize with both sides.

The songs are pretty damn catchy too. The only reason I would advise against watching it is because IIRC it's literally the only movie from Dreamworks that was 2D and barring the first Shrek, was the only one before Dreamworks started relying on their smirk face and starpower. So it's like you watch PoE and wonder what could have been.
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>>152540083
Well... Chris still has her bent duck and now has self-made China, so it's even worse.
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>>152539707
I know, right?
She is amazing.

>>152539993
Don't try trick him, a true lolicon should know that both can be happy. You shall teach the loli love and she will respond with equally strong love.
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>>152540268
>No matter what response you give him or don't give him, he'll still keep doing this shit even if he has to reply to himself.
>original jetfag is same person as melvin
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>>152540335
there were plenty of good 2d dreamworks movies though
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>>152540313
Development Option 1 – Daikon Farm (Kiyohime)

To celebrate the construction of the farm (which inexplicably has already resulted in edible crops…), Kiyohime’s cooked you something.

>Protagonist: “Ho ho, and what would that be, Lady?”
>Kiyohime: “It’s oden!”
>Protagonist: “…..!”
>Kiyohime: “Alright, here you go Master. Of course, I’ll be feeding you. Say ahhhh.”
>Protagonist: “But… it’s summer… a southern country…”

In case it’s not clear, the problem is that it’s too damn hot for that food. She realizes you don’t want to eat it and starts getting threateningly pouty.

>Kiyohime: “Was this another lie… Anchin-sama…?”
>Protagonist: “I’ll eat it...! I’ll eat it!”
>Kiyohime: “Ahh, Master, you were just teasing me after all. Right? Right? Alright, once again, say ahhhh~”
>Protagonist: “Ahh-haaaah haaahhh…!”
>Kiyohime: “Ahh, are those tears of joy, Master!? Also your face is going red, and you’re sweating like a waterfall… Ah, It’s as I said before, my ingredients are entering Master’s body… is this proof of our union…? Kya~”

Again, sexual union.

>Kiyohime: “I’m so happy, Master. All right, have some more…”
>Protagonist: “……!”
>Kiyohime: “Don’t worry, I made a lot, so it’s alright. The one peeking from over there can come eat as well.”
>Mashu: “Sorry, I wasn’t hiding, but I missed the cue to come out! But… since it’s like this, I will accompany you, Master!”
>Arturia: “It’s really hot for sure, but that’s another mater. This has a piercing delicious flavour!”
>Mashu: “S-since when…!?”
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>>152540313
Praise to the blessed Summary Anon, ender of stupid as fuck arguments that don't matter.
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>>152540313
>Arturia: “I see, daikon is it? That’s right, I do like Buri Daikon.”
>Arturia: “I see, cabbages. I do like cabbage rolls.”
>Arturia: “I see, watermelons. I’m one of those that don’t eat them with spoons.”

King of gluttony indeed.
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>>152539707
I want to give Nursery Rhyme her deserved happy ending.
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>>152540470
Seriously?

I've got a binge ahead of my if that's true. What are they?
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>>152540313
>>Protagonist: “Now that you mention it, watermelons are vegetables too…”
Is MC retarded?
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>>152540364
Will we ever be able to summon Chris as a servant?
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>>152540313
If only someone had been competent in cooking among the rounds. Perhaps Arturia wouldn't have become such a glutton.
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>>152540010
>>152540268

JETSfag and Melvin are different people, newfag. You can literally tell the difference on how they post their thoughts.
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>>152540551
Watermelons are vegetables, anon, just like how cucumbers are vegetables.

They teach you that in school.
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>>152540474
>my ingredients are entering Master’s body… is this proof of our union…? Kya~
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>>152540474
Development Option 2 – Cabbage Farm (Ann & Mary)

>Fou: “Fou fou fou!”
>Ann: “That’s a good eating style, Fou-san.”
>Mary: “They’re tasty raw or cooked. Cabbages are great after all.”
>Protagonist: “By the way, why are cabbages like a messiah?”

Long story short: Scurvy. Cabbages have Vitamin C, so they help fight it.

>Ann: “So cabbages became a sort of good-luck amulet on board the ships.”
>Mary: “Pirates are unexpectedly superstitious. You can’t help it while sailing.”

Mary says that they would cling to any sign of good fortune they could, and they reminisce a bit about how hard sailing was. Afterwards, they decide to cook some dishes with the cabbages and invite everyone to a cabbage party.

>Arturia: “Cabbage party. That has a nice ring to it. Do you have any plans to make cabbage rolls by the way?”
>Mashu: “S-since when…!?”
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>>152540474
King of Hungry is stealthy
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>>152540598
>If only someone had been competent in cooking among the rounds
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>>152540637
Fuck off memer.
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>>152540657
Fucking Saber should not be a Saber but a Gluttony class
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>>152540551
The distinction between fruits and vegetables is extremely arbitrary.

It's not incorrect to call any edible part of a plant a vegetable, including things that people would generally call fruits, nuts, or grain.
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>>152540657
Development Option 3 – Watermelon Farm (Mordred (& Scathach, sorta)

>Protagonist: “I figured it’d turn out like this…”
>Mashu: “Yes, Senpai, it’s just as expected.”

>Mordred: “Right! No, left! Or maybe diagonally and maybe up!”
>Scathach: “Hum. You thought you could confuse me like that? …Here it is.”
>[Scathach smashes the watermelon]
>Mordred: “Shit, 100% accuracy! As expected of the Queen of the Land of Shadows who devoted herself to the martial arts, you’re really good at watermelon smashing!”
>Scathach: “I had heard of watermelon smashing so I thought I’d give it a try, but this is what it was… could this help to train discipline…?”
>Arturia: “Wait Scathach-dono, it’s time for me to get serious. Do not think you have won this duel just yet.”
>Scathach: “Oh? Very well, show me what you’ve got.”
>Mordred: (Father’s got a hell of a fighting sprit! Grasping the wooden sword, moving forward without lifting the feet…)
>Mordred: “Ah, m-more to the left…”
>Arturia: “Be quiet. Shut up. You’re distracting me.”

Mordred stammers and blabbers something about how she was going fine anyway, though you note Arturia should actually go a bit to the left. Mordred wasn’t trying to mislead her for once.

>Arturia: “I see it! Here it goes! Haaa! MANA BURST!”

She does manage to destroy the watermelon… along with everything around it.

>Scathach: (Sigh)
>Arturia: (Grin)
>Mordred: “Wahh, did you see that, Master? That ‘I did it’ sort of face! Amazing! So cool! There’s a limit to how much you can hate to lose! Father is awesome after all! Alright, I’ll do it! Wait wait! I’ll do it one more time! I’ll do a Mana Burst!”
>Mashu: “Senpai, here. A fresh watermelon fragment from the ones that got blown off just now.”
>Protagonist: “It’s tasty.”
>Mashu: “Yes, a lot. It’s not good to waste food. Tonight’s meal will be just watermelon it seems…”
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>>152540254
Oh he certainly wasn't, given he was born a good two centuries afterwords. Yet for some reason people keep trying to push this silly notion.

>you should really just relax
I really should, but god damn this is my curse. I can hardly enjoy anything historical that isn't peer reviewed.

>>152540335
I heave heard the soundtrack was rather nice. I'm sure I'll get around watching it some day. Eventually. Maybe.
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>>152540821
Fuck off memer.
>>
Next section ought to be the fourth story chunk, which is long as balls, so no idea when it'll be done.
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Mordred is an idiot.
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>>152540657
Arturia should be an Assassin class servant.

Oh wait.
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>>152534556
3 > 1 > 2
Despite the stun a 50% boost on all those effects along with invulnerability is really good, and the lower cooldown is nice. The charm is guaranteed and has a fairly long cooldown so it's lower priority.
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>>152540553
Maybe. What would Chris' NP be?
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>>152540838
>>Arturia: “Be quiet. Shut up. You’re distracting me.”
>Mordred: “Wahh, did you see that, Master? That ‘I did it’ sort of face! Amazing! So cool! There’s a limit to how much you can hate to lose! Father is awesome after all! Alright, I’ll do it! Wait wait! I’ll do it one more time! I’ll do a Mana Burst!”

This fucking relationship
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>>152540946
Fuck off, retard. Kill yourselves while you're at it
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>>152540549
Road to El Dorado
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron
Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas
Joseph: King of Dreams
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Seriously? Do people really think JETS & that other guy Melvin are the same person? Do people mistaken Mordred for Gawain or something? This better be a joke.
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>>152540746
>no one likes potatos
>shirou didn't exist yet
>he now cooks for her in avalon for eternity
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>>152540946
More like silly, as in a moe point.
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>>152540313
>those shitty translations
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>two 3* in one 10 FP roll
>hundreds of thousands of FP and no serenity, riceman or ninja

Fucking FP gacha
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>>152541094
fuck off reddit
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>>152540746
I still wonder how the fuck Camelot got potatoes, which are native to South America.
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>arts memers
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>>152541192
Same way they got coconuts.
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>>152541103
>been playing since release week
>only got my first Euryale 2 weeks ago from FP Gacha
shit's weird man
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>farming iron with Arjuna
>use his NP on the boss and look away
>look back, fights over
I completely forgot his NP has instakill, the odds must be minuscule.
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>>152540838
This event is just full to the brim with scenes of Arturia being a horrible father.
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>>152541037
Fuck off autist
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>>152541354
>Buster memers
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Meme teams are the most enjoyable.
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>still no CE drop
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>>152541092
Ugly
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>>152541423
Took me over 3,2 million FP to get my first alexander
I got Angry Manjew before him
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>>152541451
Fuck off, falsefag
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>>152540883
Don't think about it so hard being Ramses II or a historical drama, and just think of it being the story of Moses. The only decent animated Bible story to date, despite how the story of David would be great if they ever put in the effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH5y71hOvk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tVTEyuCKn4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG0a9WFkgzU
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>>152541491
I agree with you.

>>152541493
>got my first CE drop right now
thanks m8
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>>152541450
If I was Seibah I would want Mordred to fuck off too.
>hey dad I know I ruined the lifes work of you, your family and everyone you know and then got them all killed because I'm retarded but pls luv me
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>>152532682
Man, right now I'm so fucked for the blue bars and cement. All of my leveled Servants are in either the gold bars or silver bars, and Grailed Jeanne Alter can probably handle oil alone, despite all the silver and bronzes she'll be carrying.
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>>152541493
Same.
Gonna burn 1 more apple before maintenance.
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>>152541619
She's retarded because she had awful parents.
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>>152541451
You do know that summary anon only uses the name for summaries right?
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So we all agree that
Quick meme > Buster meme > Arts meme
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>>152541450
Maybe Mordred should stop trying get in the way of the Grand Glutton.
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>>152541739
That's Morgans fault, not Sabers, and being retarded and fucking everything up because of a reason doesn't stop her from being retarded and fucking everything up.
>b-b-but Seibah told her she couldn't be king
She was right too, and Mordred admits it, she's just violently unstable and her immediate reaction to rejection from someone who found out they had a magic futa rapebaby on the spot who wanted to have a job she was hilariously unqualified for was to begin a pre-meditated weeks if not months long campaign of terror and murder.

Mordred can be fun but Seibah is absolutely justified in wanting her to go away.
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>152541848
Quick teams are truly the master race.
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>>152541848
Buster meme >>>>>>>>>> Arts meme > Quick meme >>> AoE meme
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>>152541848
Quicks are for fags that can't do damage of their own and rely on luck

Arts are for fags that can only rely on their NP and are shit without them

Busters are for fags who can only hit hard but die fast because they are so fucking shitty in every other way.
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>>152541092
I want to fuck her navel so badly.
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>>152541848
Quick
>look at all my golds
Buster
>hurr tap the red buttons
Arts
>actually need to know units skills and abilities
Arts>Quick>Buster
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>>152541848
>quickfag this delusional
Buster master race>>>>>arts memers>>>>>quickfags
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>>152532682
So what's iron of part 2?
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>>152541848
>not Buster+Quick for Crit meme team
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>>152542092
>typical artsfags
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>>152541450
Not like she ever wanted to be a father anyway, I'd be a little abrasive with some child that was made without my knowledge and ruined my entire fucking dream too.
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>>152539993
That second page is great by itself.
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>>152541848
We need that picture here ASAP. You know the one I am talking about.
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>>152542107
Oil farming country with 100k HP homunculus mooks.
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>>152542092
kek
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>>152541986
It's not about Arturia telling Mordred she couldn't be king, it was about Arturia telling Mordred she wasn't her child.
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>>152542152
>not arts+quick team for np spam meme team
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>>152541848
My meme team>>>>>>your meme team faggot.
This is a fact.
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>>152541450
Arturia never wanted to be a father in the first place.
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Arts>buster>>>quick
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>>152540838
>Mordred: “Ah, m-more to the left…”
>Arturia: “Be quiet. Shut up. You’re distracting me.”

Why does she have to bully her son so much?
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>>152542064
>Busters are for fags who can only hit hard but die fast because they are so fucking shitty in every other way.

Busterfags don't die fast, they make the other guy die faster. Can't take damage if you kill the enemy in one blow.
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>>152542293
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>>152542378
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>>152542152
>>152542261
>Buster+Arts is a really shitty combination
>both cards need Quick to do their meme crit composition

See?Quick masterrace
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>>152542354
Not everyone does. But when you knock up your sister with your magical futa dick, you gotta take responsibility or suffer long-standing consequences.
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>>152542371
>Busterfags actually believe this

Even if you are not a Berserker unless you are Jeanne Alter you rely too much on them showing up. If they never do you are fucked.

Busterfags are literally One-trick ponies.
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>>152542257
Mordred isn't really Sabers child though. They didn't meet until Mordred had been raised and Saber didn't know she was a hidden clonebabby until that very point. It's correct legally as well. Saber acted exactly as she should have, especially as a king.

Fuck, people always rag on Saber for not accepting the magic homo on the spot but Saber didn't then tell Mordred to burn the country down. Killing thousands over an extended period of time can't be justified by anything.
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>>152542479
You act as though she made the conscious effort to make a baby
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>>152541986
Mordred worshiped Saber, Morgan's plan failed in that moment that Mordred wanted to be like father and wanted to be the ideal perfect knight for father. She didn't really even want to be king as she realized later. she wanted to save her father from her lonliness, and have father recognize her in some fashion. Actually trying to lead those people only made her hate them more.

However it all fell apart after one conversation where Arthuria denied everything about Mordred where they were both autists with the way they took it. Mordred asked if Arthuria hated Mordred so much for being the cursed child of Morgan, Arthuria didn't really care to respond. Telling her simply that she couldn't be king and that thing wasn't her child, and wouldn't be.

Saberwankers who say she was perfect in the situation only make me detest her part in it all the more. Morgan could not cause Mordred to rebel in the end or bring the city to ruin. In the end it was one conversation they had in private between father and son that broke Mordred down. Biggest thing it always comes down to with Saberwankers is "Well actually she was perfect, she was absolute perfect king, and she actually handled this situation perfectly and wasn't in the wrong at all".
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MAINT
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>>152542368
Because Mordred deserves it.

Not even Shirou could repair this relationship
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Dumb Kiyohime posters
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>>152542479
>someone takes your DNA without you knowing and comes back a decade later with a baby
>ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY NOW
No, that's not how it works.
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>Didn't empty my AP bar
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>>152542526
Again, not everyone does.

There are literal niggers in the hood who make better fathers than Arturia.
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>>152542595
this
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>maintenance time
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>chink cock suckers
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>>152542541
Do people seriously say that?

For all his idiocy, Iskandar did a really good job of verbally savaging her entire reign.
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>>152542482
>not fielding BBB triple Berserker team for massive damage on every class and Buster cards every turn

Buster cards show up all the time if you know how to play a Buster team.
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>>152542507
>Mordred isn't really Sabers child though
She entirely is

Lets say you get a girl pregnant at a party one day, she raped you on the couch when you were passed out, eighteen years later a kid comes to your door saying its your kid.

That's still your child, no matter what mindgames you play to say it doesn't count, that's still your child. You don't like the situation, you may not be responsible to actually do anything, but that's still your child. Saying its unfair or shouldn't count doesn't negate it. The fact that you were raped and someone had your child behind your back, the fact that its made from you, its still your child.

Superman had to deal with this exact same situation more than a few times, and he handled it much better.
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>>152542620
>mordred fags will ignore this again
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>>152542541
>Saber
>meets magic rapebaby for the very first time
>said baby asks to be king and be accepted as her true son
>react with confusion, and then make your decision as the ruler
>WORST DAD EVER UGH

>Mordred
>consciously and knowingly plan to murder everyone you know and burn your entire nation down
>do so
>despite not liking the people you are working with, go on a killing rampage for weeks with them
>end it by killing the king
>MORDRED DID NOTHING WRONG ALL SABERS FAULT

Saber is not perfect, but the amount of mental gymnastics you need to do to make it seem like Saber is at fault for doing her job rather then Mordred for being literally insane is laughable.
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>>152542720
Nasu says Arturia is perfect and everyone else just didn't understand her.
>>
How the hell do I get bond exp? This shit is takin forever.
>>
I think we can all agree that autistic girls and their entire families should be kept as far away from positions of political power as possible.
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>>152542770
Not surprising,theres that one nigger modredfag that like watermelon and chicken
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>>152542792
Mordred is a just in her rebellions phase, she'll get over it once she finds her love.
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>>152542541
She's perfect as a king, but not as a person.
Though she being a dick to Modred would make her not perfect as a king.
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>>152542858
That's the deal with bond exp. Dedication to your servants.
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>>152542792
Why is Mordred suddenly not so insane when you summon her in FGO, and then all shy around you in her swimsuit when she previously said she doesn't want to be treated like a man or a woman? Smells like bad writing to me.
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>>152542759
If someone snuck into the bedroom of the Queen, took her DNA and made a clone without her permission or even knowledge, then came back and demanded that this clone be the next monarch of England and the heir to the clone, that would not happen. Because that's the situation here, not some random anon and his child support payments.
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>>152542947
What is the best stage?
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>>152533820
>mfw only 60 quartz and 8 tickets
Treat her well anon
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>>152542770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v--gY2w8D7M
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>>152542858
You just keep doing quests until it eventually goes up.

Just like Mystic Code exp, you shouldn't focus on it unless you want to go full autist.
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>Still had AP
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>>152542952
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>>152542980
Mordred not getting to be king is secondary to Arturia completely and utterly rejecting her on every level.
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>>152542905
No wonder she was more restrained in London when Jekyll was around. That's cute.
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>>152542952
>Smells like bad writing to me.
"Don't think too hard about it" - Nasu
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>>152542842
Actually Camelot implies the inverse. Arty Lancer's personality is the result of her continuing along her path long past the time she should have died.

The result is eerily similar to SMT's Law alignment which is, barring a couple games like Strange Journey and the original Megaten (when Lucy's a BWAHAHA waifunapping assfuck), usually the most horrifying path.
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>>152543087
>"Don't think" - Nasu
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>>152542759
Still isn't her responsibility though. Mordred should have killed Morgan the moment she knew, cause that bitch is the only villain here.
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>>152543061
She gets these crushes, but she'll have to settle for someone.
In before incest end, which I would be okay with.
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>when artists lock their twitters

why
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>>152543018
>just used an apple
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>>152543110
Could be. I think everyone ascribes too much narrative omniscience to Nasu's writings. In the first place wasn't it Shirou that was all pissy about "no one understanding her"? He's not exactly an unbiased narrator for that part.
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>>152543012
Superman is perfect in every way though, also he isn't in a postion of political influence unlike Arturia. which is why mordred can't be king
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>>152542993
Camelot, I guess?

Try to befriend an account with a Bond increasing CE. Ultimately, ignore it and just keep playing your favourites/the best ones to level Bond in your team. It'll eventually come. Lv. 9 through Lv.10 is just a bitch, though.
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>>152543168
Who?
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>>152542952
Mordred is insane in story. Solomon acted like a murderous guy because he reflected her personality.

The cute fanservice events made everyone sane. I'm sure Caster Gilles would also be a friends of all children there.
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>>152543150
She already settled for Jekyll in London though. All that blushing around him.
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>>152542479
>you gotta take responsibility or suffer long-standing consequences
It wasn't her choice. Morgan didn't receive sperm from a willing Arturia, you mongoloid.
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>>152543125
>"Don't" - Mushroom man
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>>152543012
What is this?
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>>152543110
Even in Strange Journey law is still incredibly fucked up, it wants to remove all free will and reduce people to soulless automatons that simply exist to sing praises to god. Sure Chaos wants to turn the world into some dog eat dog apocalypse but law is more horrifying to me.
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>>152543346
This nip Gawainfag on twitter.
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>>152542906
>She's perfect as a king, but not as a person.
If she isn't a perfect person then she isn't a perfect king. It's that fucking simple. She's just trash.
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>unlucky people
Worship RNGod more, you fools.
Pure F2P.
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>>152541739
Didn't Merlin say Mordred was just stupid?
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>>152543234
Never use an apple near ##:00 o'clock.
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>>152543485
>300

yeah sure thing whale
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>>152543053
>Mordred: hello dad who didn't know I existed until this very moment, I was created when your worst enemy and relative raped you without your knowledge a decade ago, please wholeheartedly accept me as your loving child
>Saber: What, no


Saber is cold and bad with people, and doesn't really understand interpersonal relationships. But there is absolutely no reasonable way to turn that situation into a bloodbath without Mordred being crazy and murderous. Saber dedicated her entire life to being the king, and reacted to this situation as the king should. Whether or not living her life like that was a good idea, the blame for starting a war, unsurprisingly, lies on the person who started it, Mordred.

Despite various characters slobbering on her cock, Saber isn't perfect. But in the case of who is in the wrong for Mordred stepping back and planning months of war crimes over an incredibly obvious outcome, it's not fucking Seibah.
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>>152543505
She's just ahead of her time. All visionaries get treated like madmen or fools.
>>
Remember the people who thought that rolling the Jew gatcha still meant being f2p?
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>>152543431
Oh it most definitely is still fucked up, it's just not as bad as it usually is. SJ got treated the opposite of SMT2 there, where Law is probably at its worst and Chaos is at its best.

Really all the endings are terrible when you think about it. Even Nocturne's TDE is fatalistic as fuck with the "fuck everything" theme it's got going.
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>>152543429
Hey face looks like a potato.
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>>152543431
>dog eat dog apocalypse
That's how the world is supposed to be.
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>>152543581
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>tfw you're too dumb to understand time zones or basic arithmetic and had full ap when maintenance started
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>>152543374
Rider Mordred never met Jekyll though. Also blushing hard around people is still nothing more than a one sided crush.
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>>152543610
Face? You mean she isn't a walking pair of tits?
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>>152543691
Dumb slut
>>
You think there will be extended maintenance? I want to roll for Martha as soon as the game is back up but I also kind of want to sleep
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>>152543627
fuck off chaosfag
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>>152543476
A perfect king does everything for their country, the people don't matter as long as the country prospers.
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>>152543691
Also known as sleeping.

It's fucking Sunday for fuck's sake.
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>>152543702
You get a free copy of Jekyll from London so it's canonical he's in Chaldea, and so she'll meet him.
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Haven't roll for a long time. Any new rolling methods to try out?
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>>152543581
>being this new
Look at this fool
>>
Has /fgog/ ever read Gantz?

its getting a CG movie this year and it looks great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c-VSzJqE6Q
>>
Who will have the lewdest final art?

>>152543784
Roll with your dick
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>>152543784
None that work, so its the same as the old rolling methods.
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>>152543476
>It's that fucking simple.
Not really, imagine a robot, it can solve math problems easily, but it isn't doing well in responding to actual people.
She's like that, making correct decisions in ruling, but sucks on intrapersonal relationship.
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>>152543784
roll with your dick
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>>152543765
>Gil was the perfect king
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>>152543835
nice
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>>152543627
It was some anarchist nightmare where everyone tries to be the chief and no one is content to be a cog in the machine, civilization collapses and it's literally dog eat dog because good luck getting food any other way.

Anyway enough about Megaten, this is getting off topic.
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>>152543784
Have your mom roll with her penis.
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>>152543597
Only retarded refunders think that way. You're not f2p once you spend money on a mobage
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>>152543835
It looks weird, but it seems to be about a part that had horrid scans when I read it, so it might be cool.
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>>152543772
Cuckposter trying too hard to establish a solid relationship between characters to piss people off.
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>>152543835
Uncanny valley.
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>>152543835
I have read Gantz, and it peaks like half way through and then falls to complete and utter shit with an ending so bad its almost parody.

That movie looks like its doing the Tengu arc which is like the last part before it plummets in quality though so might be good.
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>>152543845
It's going to be Martha for sure.
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>>152543954
Just ignore them. Giving them (You)s won't solve the problem.
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>>152543963
>last part

italian mission was just as good, after clone kei it goes to shit

also its altered the story so its katou's first gantz mission and kei died to the Oni

>>152543953
I think it looks great for CG shit
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>>152543784
Do 10 FP roll, if there are 2 or more 3* servants, immediately do quartz roll.
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>>152543431
Law = Everyone alive and happy, but without freewill or meaning

Chaos = Everyone dead and constantly killing each other without meaning forever, endless suffering with no one happy, but have free will

Neutral = Somewhat more correct path, humanity gets back on its own legs and doesn't suck off either path.

Whites showed you what chaos and law really meant during SMTIV; chaos world, law world, it doesn't matter. They all loop back into the same cycles again and again in an endless repetition. Law world becomes chaos once more, Chaos becomes law once more, it literally doesn't change anything either way.

Chaosfags are the most annoying since they think they're outside of the cycle and aren't sucking off someone with their choice, when its the same thing, and they are sucking off Lucy who turned out to also secretly be working for law in a sense. Both paths are the same cycle, only neutral decides to say "fuck you" to everyone somewhat, and humanity is on its own. Also chaosfags are pretty edgy and think SMT is accurate to the Bible as they often bring SMT into any conversation about Christianity or Judaism.
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>tfw only 180 quartz and 10 tickets
I am not getting anything right?
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>>152543884
He was easily the ruler of the most prosperous city/country of all time in canon and that was due to his rule
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>>152543765
>for their country
For their people. The country doesn't matter at all.
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>tickets reset a few days after the event ends
oh fuck off
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>>152543884
He was.
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>>152543853
>but it isn't doing well in responding to actual people.
Then it's a shit king.
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>>152544053
>chaosfag

Do I smell heresy?

Does sigmar's teachings needs to be spread here?
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>>152542906
>being a dick
This is the thing. Why people seriously think she denying the throne and paternity is somehow bad?
If she recognized Mordred as her son, it is the same as saying she is the next in line for the throne, and having Mordred as king is pretty shitty idea.
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>>152542720
If you think Iskander ever had a point, you're a child. Even the Zero event written by Urobuchi himself shows that his entire philosophy is underpants gnome nonsense justification for doing whatever he feels like at the moment, and that at no point is there any logical connection between that and actually bringing about good results.

His entire character is written post-hoc: the results of his reign were positive historically, so that's used as justification for whatever character Urobuchi wrote. Except Urobuchi forgot to model it as anything that makes any god-damn sense, so Iskander being Iskander normally just ends with him being a retarded nuisance that needs to be murdered so he doesn't destroy the world on a whim. Twice.

He never made a good argument against anyone on grounds of kingship and none of his point applied to either Arturia or Gilgamesh's situations, he just flashed his flashy Reality Marble and used it as justification for why he claimed to be right. This ignored the grander issue that he was the only one there for whom the proof of kingship meant "being really popular with a select group of people you went adventuring with while other people ran your country."
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God damn it I forgot maint started this early, didn't get to burn my AP.
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>>152544045
>italian mission
>just as good as Tengu
The italy mission was short as fuck and was just people dying. It's not even an arc.
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>>152543472
Because people keep reposting their pictures everywhere without a reference.
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>>152544053
>SMT is accurate to the Bible
It is.
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>>152543268
No one said Mordred should be king, that's not what the issue hinges on, even Mordred didn't really want to be king in the end.

Superman didn't make Superboy the new Superman, he just acknowledged the kid as what he was, and didn't deny him and sent him on an autistic fury. Instead of creating a strawman answer, just realize they both fucked up in different ways. Mordred is an emotional idiot who ruined everything, and Arthuria is an autist who unintentionally created the situation that caused Mordred to rebel due to her own lack of humanity, and didn't even think twice or realize her own words there.
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>>152544045
I just want to see Kaze and the old man, really.
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>>152544225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a1ca6Z24-0

also they replaced the horrid anime cast with legitimate top tier VAs

they removed muscle rider and mind power bros but we are getting OnoD as satou, Hayamin as reika, Yuki Kaji as kei and Ikeda Shuuichi as the old man
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>>152544184
It's people who hate Saber or like Mordred trying to find some justification for making it Sabers fault instead of Mordreds.

The situation is patently Mordreds fault for being a nutter.
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>>152542720
>le broskandar XDDDD
Fuck off.
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>>152543268
>mordred can't be king
She can and she should be. Mordred's Camelot would be hell of a lot better than the hellhole Shituria created.
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>>152544073
But he was just doing shit like fucking his peoples' wives and goofing around with his mud boy toy and fucking off to look for immortality. On the other hand Arthuria actually cared and tried to improve the lives of her people.

Could be that Gilgamesh got hardworking, productive citizens and Arturia got nothing but ungrateful lazy peons, that'd explain the difference in outcome.
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>>152544328
>they removed muscle rider
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>>152544328
>no muscle rider
It's shit, even OnoD can't save it.

Trailer looks alright, is it just one movie? If it's a series I'm disappointed they skipped the dinosaur arc.
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>>152544279
Saber has some hand in the whole issue, certainly. But her reaction, however insensitive it may have been to reject Mordred, was still far more reasonable a response to the situation than mounting a rebellion and destroying the kingdom.
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>>152543770
>not living on best coast
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>>152543765
The people are the country. You can't have a country without people.
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>>152544449
>egg shit

I wish they removed this anime too.
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>>152544053
>Lucy who turned out to also secretly be working for law in a sense
Only in IV. IV & Apoc are confirmed to take place in their own universe.

Of course whether the series was rebooted with IV (which if Nocturne's TDE was canon, it's pretty much the only option left) and will remain in this universe, or go back to its usual interpretation remains to be seen.
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>>152544279
>unintentionally created the situation that caused Mordred to rebel

Trying to do anything remotely close to equating the two like you're doing is precisely why you're retarded. Arturia refused to acknowledge it as heir. That is not something you can put on equal grounds to "and so she set off to murder everyone" and then wash it off with "oh well, they were both at fault!" There's one fucking humongous difference in severity of fault there.
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>>152544575
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>>152544525
Mounting a rebellion and destroying the kingdom was the right thing to do.
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>>152543835
Not a great fan of it, but I'm glad to see actually good CG instead of Berserk or Sidonia joke.
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>>152544515
Just one movie, its a different version of the osaka arc where kurono died fighting the oni

I don't see the vampires or sakurai or muscle rider in the trailer so I'm guessing we won't be getting them which is a shame

>Char Aznable does a 180 and voices a harmless old man
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>>152544593
The only one at fault here is Shituria. Fucking whore should just have killed herself.
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>>152544419
Gil loved his people and humanity as a whole, built the walls of his city himself and tried to get them off the teats of the gods.

Arturia did well but her people are retarded and complain for no reason despite having sustainable everything and disliking her personality.
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>>152544275
I already know you think that chaosfag, you don't need to prove you're retarded.

God willingly gave freewill to humanity, he wanted it that way, his mission in life isn't to take it away. There's a hundred other problems with that shit as well half the time, where the only way you can get past them is realize this isn't even trying to get the mythology correct anymore, and is just its own thing. You don't even have to look at SMT or a Bible too hard to see how this is a very biased viewing.

Jewish god in the end is a stand in for the West(America), who is beaten by rag tag Eastern attack force of Samurai(Japan). Who decide that polytheism is best in the end, and push god out of their universe(Japan telling America to fuck off). This bias shows itself further when they handled Hinduism and other religions far more accurately in another game.
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>>152544651
At least the oldman is there, it should be fun.
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>>152544651
The vampires being cut out is fine, even Oku forgot about them in the end. I'll give it a watch when it comes out, the last Gantz media I did was the manga which left a really bad impression so this might wash it out.
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>>152544756
>his mission in life isn't to take it away.
Yes it is. All he wants is bunch of mindless sheep worshiping him for all eternity.
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What the fuck?
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>>152544858
Old man is in this trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KDw481sojY

its strange he's in it, I remember him doing nothing during osaka, even muscle rider and the kid did more I think

>>152544867
There's a spin off manga running right now with a female lead who have the same name as the original gantz lead and have nishi
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Just had a cheeky wank, lads.
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>>152544187
If you think any of the kings had a good reign then you might be retarded.

Gilgamesh's essentially boiled down to "I'll be a massive dick so that my people improve themselves to be rid of me and the gods"

Saber's boiled down to "I'll be some ultra logical computer that always does the right thing and never bother to explain myself so that everyone hates me" and then was surprised when it all fell apart

And Iskanders was "I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want and hope things work out". Sure he got a lot of devoted followers but it all came down to chance, and more specifically that he died before he got the chance to fuck up too badly.
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>>152544593
>Arturia refused to acknowledge it as heir.
You have misunderstood. The problem isn't that Arturia refused to acknowledge Mordred as heir. The problem is that she refused to acknowledge Mordred as her son, or even as a human at all. It was utter rejection of Mordred's very existence from the only person she ever wanted acknowledgment from.

You can acknowledge Mordred's ultimately the one at fault for choosing to rebel, but it's also very easy to understand why she would choose a drastic, desperate action when her beloved father dashed every dream she ever dared to have like that.
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>>152544756
They seem to have walked off those tendencies back in Devil Survivor, where it seems to be just Metatron being a dick and an unseen God calling him off and holding up his side of the bargain when the humans prove self-sufficient. They even come with an interpretation of Babel's Tower that makes God seem even more benevolent than the Bible does.
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>>152544738
There's basically two tellings of Camelot, that contradict each other badly at the same time, yet are supposed to be the same.

It was a golden era where everyone loved her and the people prospered and flourished. Yet it was also a desolate era where everyone was starving and dying, and the people were filled with hate. Nasu can't seem to reconcile which it is there.

Reason they had to kill Arthuria though is because she killed Vortigen and ended the age of dragons. Because she ended it, the age of humanity began, and it became an impulse for humanity to reject non-human things. such as the dragon-blood king. Vortigen said as much as he was dying.
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How much longer is maint?
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>>152544961
The movie sure, but I don't think I'm going to be touching another one of Okus mangas again after that abomination of an ending.
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It's probably a little late to ask, but does anyone know if the previous half of the event will still be available to farm during the second half?
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>>152544971
>"I'll be a massive dick so that my people improve themselves to be rid of me and the gods"
And then he gets pissed off when people actually want to get rid of him. What a fucking faggot.
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http://ishtaria.wikia.com/wiki/Arthur_%26_Mordred

Brown.
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>>152545068
2 h 18 m
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>>152544971
The first two are wrong though
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>>152544983
Sleep tight, saber
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>>152544983
>but it's also very easy to understand why she would choose a drastic, desperate action

No it fucking isn't.

She dropped the whole bombshell on Arturia just as she was about to leave on a campaign, and the rest about "refused to acknowledge her as a human" is shit you're wanking out of nowhere. She did not acknowledge her as her son, period. Then Mordred went absolutely fucking apeshit even though she had been left in charge of the damn place by Arturia herself, proving she trusted her.
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>>152545131
It's not that bad right?
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>>152545143
Yes
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>>152544928
>>152545000
Up until Apocalypse, God had chilled the fuck out.

IV has Mastema explaining that the Archangel dickery is all them and that they stopped listening to God age ago. The fact that the Archangels join Yosuga in Nocturne (which is basically a poor man's Chaos), supports that they're no longer acting on the big man's orders.

In fact it kind of seemed to be building up to a faction split where you'd have Lucifer, the Archangels, and God all acting as their own faction.
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>>152544969
Did you read the latest chapter of Yuzuki N Dash's Zutto Suki Datta?
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>>152544949
Nice Hassans

>>152544983
WAKE UP, SABER
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>>152544983
>but it's also very easy to understand why she would choose a drastic, desperate action
Desperate? Mordred had to choose between talking the totally justifiable and reasonable rejection like something close to resembling a rational/sane person and working to earn her dads respect, and planning a murder campaign to kill everyone she had ever met and destroy every place she had ever been to.

Saber said she didn't recognise Mordred as her son, she didn't make an hour long speech about how Mordred is a piece of shit.

>oh its fine that Mordred killed literally everyone because she was triggered!!
No.
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>>152544613
>triggered
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>>152545294
>>152545215
t. literal retards that don't remember Mordred was raised by Morgan le Fay
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>>152545003
Thank you for reminding me of this fact again, slips the mind.
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>>152544328
>removed muscle rider
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>>152545150
Why does their hair change color?
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>there are people in this thread that don't want to praise our Lord for
Disgusting.
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http://ishtaria.wikia.com/wiki/Kiyohime
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>>152545294
>No.
Yes. If she gets rejected by her parent she has every right to reject everything that has to to with her parent, including the worthless kingdom.
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>>152545221
>years of the most boring and shitty arc in the whole manga
>finally get to the end
>it was God the whole time
>series wraps up with one page of "and then they went back to earth and everything was fine"
It was garbage.
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>>152545438
>kiy-
nope
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>>152545432
>Lord for
for eternity, I mean.
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>>152545381
>tfw we won't see the kid smash the aliens
>tfw we won't see kaze vs nura

atleast we are getting Oka and his suits

>>152545473
Despite everything I actually liked the final fight

>Tfw reika died
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>>152545367
Well then why aren't people claiming its Morgans fault? It's just one autist ragging on Saber when she made the correct decision for once.
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>>152545446
>I don't get what I want
>ruin everything for everyone else
that's what makes them unfit to rule, only a retard such as yourself would argue otherwise.
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>>152545446
>oh, all those peasant families I just butchered in cold blood?
>they are english so that means I can justify it under daddy issues and I hold no responsibility at all

>this is the average Mordredfag
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>>152545581
If someone fucks you over you do the same thing to however is responsible.

>>152545643
Arturia shouldn't have been such a shitty father if she actually cared about those people. Their blood is on her hands.
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>>152545367
Then blame it on Morgan.

>>152545446
This is retarded fanboy wanking. Mordred reacted like a psychopath and has never had a true redemption arc where she could reflect on what a colossal fucking asshole she was. In the end, all the emotional excuses ignore that she destroyed the kingdom due to a tantrum and has never shown remorse for it, even in the appearances that try to make her sympathetic.
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>>152545570
Because that one retard may be stupid, but the at least two dumbasse going "Nuh Saber never did nuffin wrong and no one should ever sympathize with Mordred even though you can clearly see the tragedy of the events in her life leading her to make the wrong decisions" are just as bad if not worse.

Waifufags are flat out incapable of consuming fiction of any sort because they're too fucking stupid to handle any complexity and need to cast their waifu as perfect and flawless while painting anyone else as completely in the wrong, loved by no one and, like, totally having no fashion sense, because they have the mentality of a 15 year old girl.
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>>152541436
Cirno says 30%, or 50% for divine enemies.

Gae Bolg is supposed to be 50%, but I haven't seen it work in 3-4 tries so far.
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Well I didn't get the Carmilla CE. I even used enough apples to cleat the shop.
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>>152545760
I'm beginning to to think this is someone trying to make Mordredfags look bad, no one can be this stupid.
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>>152545798
>redemption
>remorse
Completely unnecessary. She did the right thing.
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I want Mata Hari to make me a brainwashed slave with her Noble Phantasm!!
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>>152545813
You're the idiot here oversimplifying the issue to a stupid golden mean and trying to remove all guilt from Mordred by blaming everyone around her. Equating Arturia not recognizing her as her heir to Mordred burning down the country on a whim is the perfect example of not being able to handle any complexity you just mentioned.
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>>152545929
I want to rejoice with Tamamocat.
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I feel as if every single generic boring card game mobage shove mythological and historical figures into it without any rhyme or reason.

People just want to fuck Napoleon, I guess.
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>>152545859
>braindead Shituriafag thinks his opinion matters
Go fuck yourself.
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>>152545859
Maybe

I made some arguments in the beginning of this conversation that were a few paragraphs each, but someone took over partway into the process.
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>>152545827
>Proto Cu insta killing some shitty archer enemy in the three node

Such a nice feeling.
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>>152545813
The people defending Saber are saying that she's autistic and can't deal with humans, but made the correct decision as a king, not that she was perfect or flawless or anything.

You can sympathise with Mordred all you want, she had a shitty childhood, but she made her own decisions and then stood by them, despite how objectively awful and irrational they were, until she was put down like a dog.

Being an angsty teenager is not a free ticket to murder thousands in cold blood and blame all your problems on everyone else and never have any responsibility for your own actions.
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>>152545978
You just explained FGO well.
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>>152546050
>can't deal with humans
Then she's a shit king.
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Why do people defend Mordred? She even fucks pigs now.
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>>152545978
>7*

Is this legit.
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This is why Tristan left Saber
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>>152546050
>Being an angsty teenager is not a free ticket to murder thousands in cold blood and blame all your problems on everyone else and never have any responsibility for your own actions.
But having Shituria as ones father is just that. All the blame is on her.
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Man, why were Arthur and the Knights so bad at everything else except for fighting?
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>>152546230
>golden age
>bad
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>>152546083
How good or bad her overall rule was is irrelevant when looking at a specific situation where she made the decision that was the best considering her role and her nation. The argument is who was in the wrong, not was Saber a good king.
>best for her nation
>leads to Mordred destroying it
Mordred being literally insane and going on a bloody rampage is Mordreds responsibility.
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>>152545242
No, should I? Is it good?
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>>152546230
>except for fighting
They are shit at that too.
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>>152545953
Quit shoving words in my mouth and go fuck yourself with a rake you stupid nigger. I never ONCE said they were equal crimes, and all you're able to do in response to what I did say is make up falsehoods about my argument and attack those. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself for even crawling out of the bed each morning and subjecting the world to all the ichor that is (You).

What I said was that Mordred was an unstable girl with a whole lot riding on her father's approval, not of her as a prince but as a son, and Arturia's poor handling of rejecting her request to become the heir is classically tragic, their miscommunication leading to both of their deaths when it could have been avoided. That does not EXCUSE Mordred's crime. That does not make Mordred's crime OKAY. What it DOES is provide any readers who aren't autistic fucking shits a layer of tragedy to the relationship between a parent and their child because neither was able to understand the other.

I'll say it one more time.

KILL. YOURSELF.
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>>152545929
I want to lick Mata Hari's butthole.
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>>152546112
Tristan thinks leaving Saber was a mistake and its his greatest regret.
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>>152546279
I would have her over the one we have on FGO to be honest.
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>>152546230
Apparently, one of the qualifications for Round Table members was being incredibly autistic.
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>>152546285
No, it's Arturia's responsibility.
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Servers down?
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>>152545828
This. I cleared the shop, except for the pieces, but I also bought a load of QP, and I did every event scenario but no CE drop.
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>>152546349
a rape child is garbage not worth acknowledging.
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>>152546110
Yes. It's the new 5* rarity
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>>152546453
Still her responsibility.
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>>152546410
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>>152546410
Yeah.
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>>152546410
Maintenance for part 2 of the event.
Hope you used all your AP anon.
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>>152546349
>their miscommunication leading to both of their deaths when it could have been avoided
Yeah, avoided by Mordred not being a dumbass.

>people arguing over who is more in the wrong
>EVERYONE SHUT UP ITS SAD SHUT UP KILL YOURSELF I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO THIS DEBATE BUT MY AUTISM
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>>152546349
>I never ONCE said they were equal crimes

And yet you are sperging out at people who are merely arguing that they are not. Perhaps you might want to learn to address people's points instead of pretending they're saying something else entirely so that you can rage like a retard against things nobody said.
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>>152546383
Yeah. At least she is not an Aoko clone.
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1H24 Until extended maint
hype
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wow, they even have Hector
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>>152546410
Make sure to get the new apk anon.
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>>152546524
>avoided by Mordred not being a dumbass
No, it would have been avoid if Arturia was a better father. Mordred did the right thing.
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>>152546572
Looks punchable. I prefer FGO one.
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>>152546563
Now if only she had a actual personality outside wanting to die, I would whale for her honestly.
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>>152546279

I want to insert my gae bulge in her scat hach, if you know what mean.
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>He's still going at it
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okay, do people actually like this overdesigned crap
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>>152546537
>instead of pretending they're saying something else entirely
You're an idiot. >>152545215

You don't get to argue that Mordred is entirely unsympathetic and when argued against go "Hey I never said that!"

We're on a fucking imageboard you twat. All I have to do to direct you to proof you're lying through your teeth is scroll up so why do you bother doing it?
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What are your thoughts on this /fgog/ https://a.uguu.se/wQ8gjkDTM0V6.webm ?
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>>152546751
It's worse then our Nitocris because no delicious brown thighs but the design is alright.
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>>152546572
They have almost all of the heroes. Too bad I couldn't get past through the gameplay of this game.

>>152546660
Is the Scat there have the same problem where she wishes to die and personalty.
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>>152546808
I already watched that on /tv/
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>>152546808
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>>152546751
Looks Egyptian.
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>>152546083
There is no measure by which she can be called a bad King.
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>>152546808
You are way too late for baneshitposting.
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>>152546949
Hothead pls go.
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>>152546808

PAVERU HAKASE, CIA DESU
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Laughing at anybody who complains about Fate genderbends being too excessive
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>>152546808
>Shituriafags are /tv/ shitposters
Not the least bit surprised.
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>>152546751
It looks she's from "through the looking glass" rather than ancient Egypt.
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>>152547027

Better than Marik.

Is she shit in game too?
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>>152547027
That could be still a trap, I don't know why you think it's excessive. Amakusa was only like 17 years old anyway.
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>>152546945
She's simply shit.
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>>152546945
She completely botched dealing with multiple crises due to her own incompetence at dealing with any non-knightly duties of a king, which led to the downfall of her kingdom and the deaths of tens of thousands of its people.

There's no way to look at that and not see that she did something wrong. Even the people trying to avert her dream of erasing herself from existence can't justify just how badly shit got fucked and can only tell her she needs to move on.
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>>152547139
See you have no argument. You say she's shit and I say she is not from which you have no rebuttal.
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>Dog
It can't be
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>>152547224
>I say she is not
Then you're wrong.
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>>152547027
Post more of these.
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>>152546790
>You don't get to argue that Mordred is entirely unsympathetic and when argued against go "Hey I never said that!"

I think she's unsympathetic because while she had a bad background, her actions were her choice and she has yet to have any sort of redemption arc where she at least acknowledges she fucked up. Severe daddy issues explain things, they do not automatically make a character sympathetic if they do nothing to earn that sympathy. I recognize Mordred had a lot of shit going on, but until she develops enough as a character to earn some sympathy and show more complexity as a character, she's simply a tragic character, not a sympathetic one.

If you think being tragic equals being sympathetic, you're proving yet again that you've got the exact overly-simplistic view of things you were accusing others of having simply because they did not break down in tears for her. Also, you sperging out at people not finding her sympathetic and accusing her of being blind fanboys still stands. You're raging like an idiot against strawmen you yourself created.
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>>152547256
>Literally the Hound of Culann
>Give him cat ears
How do you fuck up THIS BADLY
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>>152547308
>redemption arc
Wasn't there something like that in Apocrypha?
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oh god what the fuck
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>>152547147
It's not a kings duty to crown every bastard they sire
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why are archers so fucking best
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>>152546945
>had no humanity left to deal with human issues or address her people in human ways
>could only solve problems one way like a computer, tried to suffer herself for no reason a times. Can only make correct choices rather than good ones, because she had no humanity to make good choices
>this created a huge gap between them and her
>this caused the majority to doubt or distrust the king, and even the various knights to fall to sin, sount, or disparity
>she admits she wasn't qualified to lead since there's no way she could understand the pain of her people if she couldn't even understand the pain of the very people closest to her
>could have avoided lancelot or mordred falling out if she had any measure of humanity to deal with it in a human way
>Tristan left since the king was inhuman and didn't understand the people
>lion king is basically just Saber's normal kingship if amped up a bit
>killed hundreds, tried to end humanity, along with several of her knights
>when she regained her memories and self as Arthruia, doubled down and said she was correct as lion king, and tried to fight you again with excalibur
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>>152547147
>Lancelot cheats with your wife
>rather then murdering them both, have Guineveres execution set in a public place with token guards who were friends with Lancelot while Lancelot himself is free to go around and do knightly things like saving princesses
>Lancelot, through his own incompetence, turns this into a bloodbath and continental war

>Mordred asks to be recognised as the child of the king
>Clearly have to say no, also Mordred comes out of nowhere with huge revelations and obvious connections to a traitor
>Mordred takes this as a reason to kill everyone and burn the nation down

>Members of Sabers own personal guard not only are aware of her personal failings, but discuss it amongst themselves
>every single one refuses to try and correct these failings or bring it up, on their own accord
>only one who even mentions it then just fucks off and leaves without elaborating

>Sabers well meaning and rational actions fail because the people working for her are literally insane and hilariously incompetent
>b-but its all Sabers fault
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>>152547317
What you think about this
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>>152547308
>where she at least acknowledges she fucked up.
She does, though. Before she died, even. But by the time she realized that she was already in too deep.

Then, Apocrypha was her redemption.
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>>152547286
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>>152547398
More suitable for his myth.
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>>152547256
>Cat ears
Guess that E-rank luck manifested as an artist that couldn't tell the difference.
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>>152547308
>redemption
Not needed since she didn't do anything wrong.
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>>152547389
No, she just reframes her daddy issues. As a character, Mordred's never gone a step past herself and Arturia. All the other shit she did and lives she ruined have never been addressed. She's still a completely unrepentant mass murderer.
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>>152547398
>was thinking of reinstalling this meh game
>see this
Thanks for the reminder it's shit, those 7 stars can stay unused
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>>152547491
>those thighs
Better than our Gawain.
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>>152547415
Why do you keep trying to make this about royal succession when even Mordred admits that wasn't what she actually wanted?
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>>152547491
Cerberus?
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>>152547491
Why is Gawain a semen demon?
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>>152547450
>but its all Sabers fault
It is. All would have been better if she just killed herself.
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>>152547491
Superior Gawain
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>>152547475
My spine hurts looking at it.
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okay, now onto a different game

How do you fuck up anime Shakespeare?
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>>152547557
>All the other shit she did and lives she ruined have never been addressed
Do you know how many Heroic Spirits have ruined lives?
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>>152547485
>She does, though. Before she died, even.

No, she acknowledges she fucked up in regards to what she felt for Arturia. Nothing else. The fact that she murdered everyone on a whim doesn't even register as something she should feel sorry about, she's just sad she botched how she dealt with her father and forgets all about the rest.
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>>152547589
Because he's a fucking Shituriafag. They are all shitposters.
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>>152547589
>Mordred asks to be recognised as the heir to the throne
>Saber is supposed to read her mind and see that's not what she wants but doesn't, so its Sabers fault
Believe it or not, being the child of a reigning monarch is slightly more complicated then usual.
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>>152547589
So this s is irrelevant to the duties of a king.
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>>152547491
Last one.
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>>152547450
Lancelots mistakes can just as easily be attribute to Agravain trying to force a conflict because he believed it was what Saber wanted.
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>>152547308
And I tell you you're the one being simplistic and unreasonable because you have the nonsensical belief that a character has to have some kind of redemption for every bad thing they did. That's a complete lack of understanding of the character and only forcing your own sensibilities on them. Sympathy is not forgiveness or excuse. Sympathy is SYMPATHY, and you are twisting its definition into something it simply is not to justify why you refuse to feel it. It is not something earned, it is something given, because one understands another's circumstances. Placing arbitrary rules on how sorry somebody must feel for their mistakes before they "earn" sympathy is patently ridiculous

Personally I don't really care if you think my calling you a stupid cunt is "sperging out", for the record, because I refuse to be told what is and isn't sperging from a man so basically awkward he has to be explained on what sympathy is.
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>>152547557
>She's still a completely unrepentant mass murderer.
Which is fine since she did the right thing.
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>>152547589
Because that's the entire point, a throne isn't something you give away for no reason and a rape bastard isn't worth acknowledging
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>>152547712
No Astolfo?
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>>152547687
Do you think Arturia felt remorse for the lives she had to take as king, before Mordred's rebellion?
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>>152546808
Bane's voice is too loud compared to the others.
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>>152547708
It's directly related. If you are a shitty person then you're also a shitty king.
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>>152547712

I want to fuck Sir Gawain.
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>>152547826
>Saber kills warlords to unify a broken nation
>Mordred kills civilians to destroy it and leave it in ashes
>these are equal situations
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hahaha what the fuck
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>>152547793
They don't have him or her yet. You can check more on their wikia page.
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>>152547826
King Arthur did not. Artoria did. This is a very important thing tha Merlin realizes far to late.
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>>152547826
She did and she didn't.
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>>152547897
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>>152547782
>a throne isn't something you give away for no reason
No, it's something you take by force and it's in the right of Mordred to do so.
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>>152547897
>Stalin
>4*
Cyka blyat
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>>152547897
My God
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>>152547782
Play some Crusader Kings 2 and see how you get factions against you with little popularity, especially if the leader is of blood!
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>>152547863
>mordredfags are literally retarded and reason exactly as a self entitled child would
>just like mordred
pottery
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>>152547880
>Saber kills warlords to unify a broken nation
>As well as all of their followers, families and inhabitants of their holdings for the heinous crime of not already having Arthur for a king
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Hey guys, is FGO fun?
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>>152547880
>Mordred kills civilians to destroy it and leave it in ashes
For revenge, which is a perfectly good reason for doing so.
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It's me or they removed the tamamo gacha?
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>>152548042
actually it is kinda fun once you get past the salts
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>>152548042
This is the Arthurian Myth General, fuck off
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>>152547589
Because that's all Arthuria fags have

>B-but mordred shouldn't be king
>No one is saying she should be king
>B-but mordred can't be king. Is that really what you would have arthuria do?

Mordred in the end just wanted to be recognized as her son. Which is why she took the denial so hard. It wasn't because she was upset about not being king. Arthuria is autistic so she just meant it in the king way, mostly, although she also wouldn't recognize her as family, but mordred took it in a much deeper way. Absolute rejection, this person would never acknowledge her as her child, as her son, would never love her. The dad she was dreaming of and dreamed would be proud was shattered.

Mordred worked herself up the ranks hiding her identity so no would could say she got the spot just for her pedigree, but when she finally revealed herself, the proud reaction she expected was crushed, and she broke.
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>>152547589
Because that's what Mordred ASKED FOR, all the other shit about admiring King Arthur and wanting to be recognized by her father above all are things Mordred herself conveniently never said a single fucking word about out loud.

For all the bitching about lack of communication, Mordred burned the entire country down because Arturia didn't read the mind of someone who showed their face to her only once, explained very little of what she wanted beyond saying she wanted the throne and had been raised by her treacherous half-sister, and all of this just as she was leaving on a war campaign

There's claiming Arturia was stiff, and then there's whining about the fact that she did not immediately divine the innermost, unspoken thoughts of someone who until that point had been acting like a total, literally faceless enigma. Remember, before she revealed herself, Mordred was following the exact same regimented steel knight behavior trying to prove herself worthy and did not exactly make her feelings known either.
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>>152547994
Saber fought bandits, mercenaries and armies. She didn't burn down villages for fun.

That would have actually been opposite to her desires, which was to use chivalry and military force to make others submit to her, and you can't submit if you are dead.

But sure, find some source that says Saber killed entire families. You can't, and won't.
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>>152541848
this
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All of the following people share some amount of blame for the collapse of Camelot:
>Arturia
>Mordred
>Lancelot
>Guinevere
>Gawain
>Agravain
>Morgan
>Merlin
>Kay
>Tristan
>Probably Galahad
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>>152548042
No. We're into this only because is fate.
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What if they're both shit?
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>>152547985
Of course it was Melvin that was shitposting.
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>>152547832
He's a big guy..
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql67CA34oZU

Divine Spirit is just a shinier swallow
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>>152548131
>Merlin is a quickfag
Shit taste. No wonder Fou hates you.

>>152548042
Only if you're into the Fate franchise.
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Umu?
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>>152548131
>merlin
>not arts
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>>152548042
You like RPG combat? Farming? Salt? Fate?
Then yeah, it's fun.
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>>152548042
it is a hell of a game
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>>152548119
Mordred did not ask to be Sabers family but totally not in a royal manner, you autist. She asked to be the heir and next king. Even after 12 years of Saberwank, Saber can't read minds.

Mordred going homicidal because daddy doesn't immediately and unconditionally love me is not daddys fault, but Mordreds for her go to reaction to things not going her way be mass murder. All she had to do was NOT kill everyone and no one would think she was in the wrong. But she killed everyone. So she is.
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>>152548123
Except it's made very clear in Apocrypha Materials that Arturia rejected Mordred not only as a royal heir, but as her own flesh and blood.

>"I see. Even if you were born my sister's plotting, you were certainly born from me. However, I will not recognize you as my son nor will I give you the throne."
>I will not recognize you as my son

Your argument is bullshit.
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>>152547863
Substantiate your claim instead of repeating endlessly to pointlessness. Rejecting Mordred had no impact on the kingdom until she unilaterally massacred the population.
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>>152548130
>What are camp followers
>What are brothers and sons who follow their father to war because all they know is some upstart named Arthur is trying to steal their lands
>What are the simple farmers and peasants slaughtered by the hundreds or even thousands every time Arturia went to war to subdue a neighbor
It's the logistics of war. Whatever her intentions Saber's methods ensured the deaths of untold numbers of innocents.
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>>152548042
If you are into fate/semi invested in seiyuu or some artists, then yes. If you like turn based trash and rock paper scissors mechanics too you are going to like it.
>>
>Be me
>Be into fate
>Discover that most of my favorite characters are silvers and/or bronze
>REEEEEEEEE
>Plays the game anyway
>Tfw the gacha rate is shit and there's literally no chance for me to roll golds

i feel more thankful now
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>>152548303
Actually, my mistake, that wasn't Apocrypha Material. That was the original Character Material, before Nasu even decided whether Mordred would be a boy or a girl.
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Has DW ever actually buffed a character with non-Strengthening quests?

I was looking at Astolfo and even if they were to buff all his skills he would still have a core problem of making fuck-all stars even with his boosts + QBC
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>>152548319
>until she unilaterally massacred the population
That's entirely Arturia's fault. It wouldn't have happened if she was a better person.
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>>152548324
>enemy soldiers who come at you with intent to kill on the battlefield
>innocents
Love this meme. You have absolutely no leg to stand on unless there's some source of Saber actually murdering non-combatants.
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>>152547774
>And I tell you you're the one being simplistic and unreasonable because you have the nonsensical belief that a character has to have some kind of redemption for every bad thing they did

No, but they have to give me something to care about, some hook from which I might empathize with them, not superficially cheerful cardboard cutouts whose every deeper emotion is some variation of selfish brat / psycho.

Mordred might have the excuse of being a child, but again, that's just more explanation for why she's how she is, it's not something that makes her likeable. If anything, the piled-on justifications for her psychopathy make her so alien it's kinda hard to care about her.

You are literally raging at me because I don't feel as strongly as a character as you decide I automatically should, and then you accuse me of creating arbitrary requirements.
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This isn't the Perseus I know and love
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>>152548319
Why are you still arguing with the blatant shitposter while ignoring the people actually debating the subject?
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>>152548303
>you were certainly born from me, but you're not my son
There is nothing wrong with this.
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>>152548395
Imagine if they keet mordred as a guy
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>>152548412
Waver says hello.
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>>152548435
>shitposter
Nice shitpost.
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>>152548429
That's because its someone called Perceus, not Perseus.
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>>152548417
>Invade other people's lands
>Surprised they come at you armed to defend their homes
>I-it was totally self defense!
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>>152548324
what a riot, thanks for the laugh
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>>152548494
yeah but that's not happening to a 4* any time soon. Also rate-up when?
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>>152548494
Tell him I say hi too.
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>>152548412
Nero got her third skill from an Interlude, and Atalanta got a skill buff from one too.
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>>152548415
That's senseless. The king did not order Mordred to destroy the kingdom. Mordred knew that the king did not wish for the kingdom to be destroyed. Mordred destroyed the kingdom. It's clear where the blame lies.
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>>152548412
i think if he's popular enough they'll buff him. DW has a habit of buffing popular characters
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>>152548538
Why they are a combatant is irrelevant, they are combatants.

Mordred killed non-combatants, Saber did not. If you can't grasp that this means one is in a different situation to the other then I'm sorry but you are just stupid.
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>>152548494
I guess I should have been more clearer, not necessarily changes via not-Strengthening. but rather changes that don't involve their kit being changed. Stat increases/decreases, star generation overall made better etc
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>>152548303
Well, to a person who discarded their human nature to become a perfect king, those two things are the same.
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chink apk when
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>>152548649
I remember Gil getting his stargen nerfed, dunno about buffing though.
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>>152548538
>greatest wizard of the age gives you a magic sword that makes you perfect
>only task you're given is to be king and unify Britain.
>oh, just don't kill people :(
(You)
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>>152548649
When Quick got buffed ages back it buffed people like Carmilla, but that was a general change not a specific one and actually nerfed some people. No one has had any specific unique changes to anything but numbers on skills.
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>>152548596
>It's clear where the blame lies.
Yes, Arturia. If she had treated Mordred better it wouldn't have happened.
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>>152548649
All Quick cards/star rates were buffed at one point.
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>>152548649
There was Archer Saber and Mode Red's "bug fix"
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>>152548649

Swimsuit Mordred and Saber got buffs this week, even if DW called it a """"bug"""". There was also the quick card change.
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>>152548134
What about Percival?
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>>152548303
You addressed exactly no point I made. Mordred asked to be the next king, and Arturia denied it. That is all.

All the emotional wank is stuff Mordred never expressed. Arturia did not deny her innermost wish to her face, she refused to acknowledge her as her heir. She acknowledge she was born from her right there, but will not give her the position of her son because unless you're a complete retard, you'd realize those two are the same thing.

Mordred would have been fine simply being treated kindly as an unrecognized bastard, but she never gave Arturia the chance to make a decision on that because she never fucking said so, Arturia left right after that and Mordred burned the entire country down before she could return and they could retake the matter.
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>>152548798
>>152548797
They did? What changed?
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>>152548779
>No you can't be king. Here's the keys to the Ferrari while I'm on campaign
Mordred was treated as well as every other knight of the round table.
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>>152548737
Retard.com
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>>152548687
>Perfect king
>Arturia
Pick one.
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>>152548748
I suppose that's enough evidence as is, of such changes being pretty rare.

Until Astolfo can actually be a star-gen Rider that can sustain his own star supply as his QQQAB deck would suggest, he won't be useful.
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>>152548865
>as well as every other knight
Not good enough.
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>>152548719
what a trustworthy gal
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>>152548649
Gil got more hits on his extra when they updated his animations, I believe.
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>>152548797
>Archer Saber

This will never not sound dumb for me.
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>>152548861
NP gain rate.
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>>152548903
They're the same thing though
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>>152548970
They are the exact opposite.
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>>152548953
Oh shit. I was leveling her up anyway because Mordred is a cutie, but now I might actually end up using her.
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>>152548865
>Mordred was treated as well as every other knight of the round table.

Better, considering she left her in charge of the place while she was gone.
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>>152548907
if they do an apocrypha event it's gonna be his best chance
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>>152548970
No. No they're not.
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>>152548639
>Mordred killed non-combatants
Do you actually have a citation for that?

>>152548859
>That is all.
That is clearly not all. Arturia refused to recognize Mordred as her child, right there, in the text.

>>152548687
That's a flimsy excuse.
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>>152549058
If anyone gets a buff in an Apoc event it has to be Siegfried
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>>152549086
>you are born from me
last reply nigger
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>>152549142
They'll just release 5* Seig instead.
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>>152549086
>That is clearly not all. Arturia refused to recognize Mordred as her child, right there, in the text.

Ok, I'm going to assume you're either trolling or a complete retard. Bet's on the latter. Either way, I made my point as thoroughly as I imagine it can be made. if you still keep banging the same drum without bothering to read even the shit you quote, that's on you. Bye.
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>>152549142
he is beyond saving. just accept reality
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>>152549058
It'd be a nice niche for a Rider to have

Sanzou as the only good Buster Casters
Astolfo as a Rider that wouldn't need star shitting teammates
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>>152549195
DW wouldn't do that to us right?
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>>152549160
>I will not recognize you as my son
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>>152549142
>Siegfried gets a buff
>Dragonkiller: A+ - Heals self upon use
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>>152549142
Neither will get buffed, they'll both be bad together forever, and I'll still use them.
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>>152545003
We see Camelot in Lancer Arturia's interlude dream and is basically like in Jerusalem except without refugees and desert, some futuristic like utopia. Similar to Rameses' reign and Gil's.
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>>152549142
>inb4 Limited 5* Saber Sieg with all the cool stuff Siegfried could had like AoF as a defense buff/invulnerability and dragon slayer as a passive skill.
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>>152549236
Bastards don't hold a claim to the throne even if the king admits they're his.
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>>152549236
>Bye
Finally the shitposter fucks off.
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I want ravage Da Vinci-chan's pussy!
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Explain
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>>152545003
>It was a golden era where everyone loved her and the people prospered and flourished. Yet it was also a desolate era where everyone was starving and dying, and the people were filled with hate.

The latter was Britain before Arthur's ascension. Things stabilized as Camelot solidified, enough that Rome took notice of it and wanted it back as a province, which is why Arturia had to go and slap their shit in.

I have no idea what you have such a problem understanding, it's pretty clearly explained.
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>>152549308
>talks about the throne
>to recognize her as her son would be the same as giving it away
>acknowledging it despite the fact it shouldn't count (in the line of rule it doesn't but she does acknowledge her existence) and leaves her the kingdom when she's gone
class act that arturia.
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>>152549270
They did it to me with Martha.
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>>152549375
>Sigurd is also a 4* and he's just as bad as Seigfried.
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>>152549462
It's. Because he hasn't actually read GoA
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I see the autism goes into overdrive when the game is on maint
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>>152549086
>flimsy
The entire system of government was predicated on this standard. It's the core of the tragedy. Britain is fucked.
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>>152548302
>Saber can't read minds
>Arash can
BTFO
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>>152549550
>buffed twice
>exactly as useful as she was before either (not very)
But now you can just whale for Ruler Martha and use her instead :^)
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>>152549550
At least there's a ruler version.
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>>152549382
You're not understanding anything. Arthur HAD to be a perfect king, so there couldn't be any bastards. It would destroy the perfect image.

I'm just wondering if Mordredfags are as dumb as Mordred. Mordred isn't evil but she's canonically a dumbfuck who cannot control her temper and brought this to herself.
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>>152549382
Irrelevant, especially with no other living heirs. In any case, Mordred explicitly asked for the throne and absolutely nothing else. If she wanted anything else, she never bothered to tell anyone about it.

For all her endless obsession with Arturia, she never actually told her or showed any of that to her, nor gave her any indication that she was anything but Morgan's child sent to take the throne, mainly due to the extent of her side of the conversation being "I am Morgan's child and I want the throne."
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>>152549554
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>>152549610
We are about as autistic as usual desu
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>>152549613
She could just have been a good non-human person. It's really simple but she fucked up because she's an autistic piece of shit.
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>>152549667
OH BOY
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>>152549142
>Golden Rule->Rheingold Curse
>increase NP gain(3 turn)+chance to apply dragon trait on enemies(3 turn)
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A reminder to whoever makes the new thread that somebody made a new translation pastebin:

>http://pastebin.com/tFTMne2H
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>>152549639
>>152549671
No, even for Martha I'm fighting every fiber in my body that wants me to become a large aquatic mammal.
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>>152549628
Clearly the best Archer.
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>>152549786
>those shitty translatins
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>>152549667
I don't quite understand
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>>152549774
>chance to apply
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>>152549752
>saber lily is a thing
>GoA exists
>you didn't even try
a chore to reply
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>>152549774
>Golden Rule > Armor of Fafnir
>increase NP gain (3 turn)
>apply dragon trait on all enemies (3 turn)
>apply taunt yo self (3 turn)
>def up 50%
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>>152549672
No one else had to know Mordred was Arturia's child. Arturia was keeping Lancelot's affair with Guinevere secret for as long as she could, why couldn't she keep Mordred's lineage secret WITHOUT telling her "I have no son?"
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GONE TOO FAR
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>>152549886
Please don't post pictures of my wife.
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>>152549891
>saber lily is a thing
>GoA exists
Doesn't change anything.
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>>152549886
100% certain hit is too broken.
Also there always support Ozzy.
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>>152549851
Whenever I had to fight him, I stalled as much as possible just to watch himself fruitlessly commit suicide to try and kill me.
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>>152549964
Try and stop me faggot
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>>152549941
Mordred wanted to be treated as a son. She wanted to be loved and recognized as the same as the king. The king couldn't even love their wife.
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>>152550018
He doesn't has NP bar on Camelot though
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>>152549924
this would be nice, and with 20% DEF instead it would even be realistic
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>>152550018
How did that work out for you in Camelot?
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>>152549941
Are you deliberately ignoring people's points to troll or just being retarded? The entire "why didn't Arturia just keep that part secret and play family like Mordred wanted" is predicated on Mordred having ever made any of her intentions known. She asked for only one thing out loud: being officially recognized as her son and made the legitimate heir to the throne. Beyond that, you're whining about Arturia not being telepathic.
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>>152550004
We have certain hit charms and stuns, a certain hit to make a character with piss all attack hit a little more for a whopping three turns is hardly overpowered.
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>>152549941
It serves no purpose for her kingdom, the affair on the other hand did as it involved his queen and his most famous knight
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>>152550018
I actually got killed by him commiting suicide back when he was the enemy archer on dailies.

Feels Bad Man...
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>>152550004
Ozzy's buff only affect self buff.
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>>152550018
>He doesn't has NP bar on Camelot though
Yeah, kind of a downer.
The other times in events were great, though.
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>>152549941
Mordred LITERALLY asked her the throne when she confronted her. Arturia reacted for once as a normal person and told her an eloquent "fuck no."

Fact: Arturia tried to open negotiations to Mordred of ceasefire even after her betrayal and ambush and Mordred refused them.

Secondly, she has no fucking obligation to pat her butt. Nor it justifies Mordred's reaction to destroy a kingdom, kill thousands of people, including her half siblings and family, and ruin everyone's life because of this. Don't try to whitewash her. What Arturia should have done would have immediately execute her after she found out she was yet another Morgan's spy but she was too fucking soft to do it.
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>>152549786

>[Overview, credit to boyofmystery from r/grandorder
>[Overview, credit to boyofmystery from r/grandorder]
>WIP Summary, credit to taiboo from r/grandorder

I want reddit and their shitty translations to fuck off.
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>>152549941
And why would she do that? It served no purpose for Mordred's sole stated goal of being the next heir, which is all she bothered to ask for. The same Mordred who had literally never showed her face before she made that request. How the hell was she to know she'd care for any of that?
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>>152550185
does it? I know the NP charge is for everyone but I'm not sure abour rhe buff rate increase. There go my chances of making a team with nero.
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>>152550269
Make your own translation then.
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>>152550269
There isn't any real difference between /fgog/ and r/grandorder.
>inb4 smug emiyas
I know you faggots post there too.
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>>152550131
>hardly overpowered
>Sumanai against Dragon
>not overpowered
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>>152550117
She only asked for the throne, but Arturia went beyond denying Mordred the throne and denied Mordred entirely. There was no reason Arturia had to go that far, and in doing so she FUCKED UP.

>>152550140
>It serves no purpose for her kingdom
Keeping your knights happy and loyal serves a very obvious purpose to the kingdom.

>>152550241
>Secondly, she has no fucking obligation to pat her butt.
Yes, she does. She's a parent.
>But she didn't ask to be
That's not an excuse.
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>>152550301
No, it affects Nero's IP, but it doesn't affect something like Witchcraft, a skill that affect the enemy.
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>>152550318
I don't, because it's shit. The only people who might actually do that are legit shitposters.
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>>152550301
it buffs teammates too, it' just that "support Ozzy" only truly helps the maybe 4 servants with Imperial Privilege and Astolfo
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>>152550318
Fuck off redditor.
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>>152550351
>those buffs + probable overcharge + 3 lancer dragon type enemies
>not even 700k
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>>152550318
>inb4ing his own post
>the rest
>>>/goback/
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>>152550318
>I know you faggots post there too.
Project any harder and you'll develop a Reality Marble. Now fuck off and stay there.
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>>152550185
It affect all allies.
You see a staff icon on everyone when you use it.
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>>152550352
She's a machine. Machines can't be parents.
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>>152550409
Also Andersen and probably other servans with chances of self-buff from their NP. Im pretty sure there is more servants with random skill buffs like zero assassin.
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>"Mordred...you do not understand the King's heart"
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>>152550352
>Yes, she does. She's a parent.
No, she was a sperm donor. One unwilling one.

>That's not an excuse.

Yes, it is? Secondly, Arturia no longer existed, only king Arthur who only could conduct himself as ruler. Whether Mordred was her son or not doesn't matter because her existence is as a king.

Unless it was important to her kingdom, she disregard it.

Maybe Lancer Arturia's realm was different.Which might explain Mordred's in Camelot being different.
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>>152550529
Thus proving conclusively that Arturia is a massive fuckup who brought ruin to her own country.
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Does anyone here know what 霊脈 is usually translated as?

The Type Moon wiki is being no help at all.
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Alright so Ozzy's out, but who can actually increase team debuff rate for this hypothetical sumanai?
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>>152550510
Allies' self buff is what I mean, not only himself.
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>>152550352
>denied Mordred entirely

You have no other argument except endlessly wanking that line as meaning that she denied her humanity when she never did any such thing. All this thread you've done nothing but insist that line says something ti does not.

>Keeping your knights happy

Why would playing house keep her happy? She never gave any indication of wanting that. All she actually did was ask to be the heir.

>That's not an excuse.

Yes it is. Arturia did not deny her anything except being recognized as her legitimate son, mainly because that's all she asked for or gave any indication of wanting.

You seem altogether incapable of moving from repeating "denied her entirely" as a parrot without even bothering to read either the source material or anybody else's arguments. You're either an idiot or a blind fanboy.
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>>152532920
disgusting
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>>152550352
>literal fucking who(rape child) asks to be king after they say they're sent by one of the kingdoms greatest ever present threats.
>I shouldn't even care you exist but I will acknowledge you and even leave you the kingdom while I'm gone
>"fuck this, I hate you and will destroy your country"
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>>152550576
>Thus proving conclusively that Arturia is a massive fuckup who brought ruin to her own country.
That's wrong though. The country was fated to ruin. It's stressed by Merlin many times. Arturia only delayed and tried to stop that fate but you can't fight fate.

The whole point was for her to accept it and move on, knowing she was the best king ever who did what she could.
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>>152550690
>The country was fated to ruin
Because Arturia was fated to ruin it.
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>>152550576
Arturia protected the population from invaders, planned the harvest, acquired wealth for the treasury. Mordred's hands ruined the country.
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>>152550614
there's not as much team debuff boosting as there is reducing enemy debuff resist, it's also not as reliable when Servants have Magic Resistance Skills

Void Shiki is one with a enemy team debuff resist
>>
Do Mordredfags have the same IQ of their waifu?
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>>152550764
>Mordred's hands ruined the country.
Arturia's words ruined the country.
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>>152550575
>Unless it was important to her kingdom, she disregard it.
And like I said, making sure your knights are loyal to you is important to the kingdom.

And she failed to do that, all by herself.

>>152550661
>but I will acknowledge you
But she didn't.

>>152550635
And all you've done on the topic is say "No, it doesn't mean that, it means this."
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>>152550318

>Scáthach, because she helped me in a hard situation, guiding me, I managed to stay strong for several months, to make her know that I was going for her, I study her story trying to be closer and closer to her, not just that, I trained some art techniques tho wasn't for much time due to work, I prayed a lot for the day she finally could save me would come soon, even tho I was trying to be as most close to her as possible, I was still broken inside, she was the only one who could save me, I'm pretty sure that my prayers and love reached her, when she came back to the game, I was soo nervous I can't deny that, but at that moment, I was sitting there, in front of the screen, about to click to see if I was going to be able to be with her or not, for some reason, all my doubts and fears was gone, I was calm, extremely calm to be honest, and there she was, answering my call, my prayers, my tears... I didn't cry that much, I don't know why, maybe with all I did before I truly reached her, I was truly with her, that's why I love her so much.
>I know I've been saying this a ... quite a lot here haha, but it's because its true, all of it it's true, maybe for some sounds a bit exagerated for others no, and I appreciate the friends I've been having here even knowing how I am and I am very thankful with them, I'm pretty sure that at this moment, If she wouldn't have answer me, I really don't know what would happen with me, without her I wouldn't even know what love is, I'm very thankful with her for saved me, and that's why I protect her so much, that's why I love her so much.


Yeah, no difference at all.
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>>152550797
>>152550797
>>152550797
>>152550797
>>152550797
Don't bring the shitposting.
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>>152550606
>霊脈
>Spirit Vein
Gonna hazard a guess as either Leyline or Magic Circuit
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>>152550740
No, it was ruined before she ascended to the throne and fix it, but she couldn't keep it like that forever because it was fucked anyway.

Try reading fate route or goa, instead of using your dumb headcanon.
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>>152550823
actions speak louder than words
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>>152550661
See

>>152550635
>or even as a human at all

This guy began wanking Arturia's rejection as having treated her as something inhuman out of nowhere and has done nothing but repeat that over and over since then. You're wasting your time arguing with an idiot.
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>>152550846
>says the retard starting the new thread with mordred
pottery
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>>152550840
>And all you've done on the topic is say "No, it doesn't mean that, it means this."

Mostly because it does.
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>>152550905
>This guy began wanking Arturia's rejection as having treated her as something inhuman out of nowhere

>Despite how hard he tries. Even if he excels over anyone, the moment he was born from Morgan, the King would look down on him as a forever as a dirtied child.
Again, Character Material.
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>>152550840
So Mordred was a whinybaby who was incapable of being a knight as she should is on Arturia's head when she's rushed to fight Roman Empire trying to conquer them?

Are you stupid, Mordredfag? Legitimate question. And don't give me the MORGAN WAS MEAN MOTHERRRR shit because Agravain who was Morgan's son and tool to get the throne as well, actually stayed loyal to his dying breath.

Mordred isn't 10% as good as knight as Agravain was.
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>M-Mordred is dindu
>A-Arthuria is dindu

Funny how this actually sprout from 1 fucking swimsuit event scene.
Also 35 minutes until extended,thanks for shitting up the thread in meantime
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>>152550998
That was Mordred's misconception. Why don't you keep reading, retard?
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>>152550998
That's Morgan feeding bullshit to Mordred, not the king's personal view.

> King Arthur emotionlessly replied back.
"Not once did I despise you.

>There was only one reason I would not give you the throne.

>You didn't have the capacity of a King."

Oh right, you're cherry picking. Fuck off.
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>>152550998
So? Can you try to actually back your points for a chance with something that actually says what you claim they do?
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>>152551118
And how was Mordred supposed to know that?
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>>152550873
>Leyline
it's the latter
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>>152550998
Are you trolling or legitimately retarded? That was what Mordred imagined, and Arturia explicitly denied.

Arturia, in her own words, told her with her dying breath that all she ever denied her was the throne. Everything else was Mordred jumping the gun and assuming spectacularly off base shit because she wasn't given something she never asked for.
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>>152551279
>and Arturia explicitly denied.

When it was FAR too late to mean anything.
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>>152551215
Well, maybe if Mordred wasn't autistic she could probably tell by being given the authority of the throne while the king was away.
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>>152551215
She could have asked, instead of burning the country down as a first response to being denied something else entirely.

You are confirmed a retard arguing books you haven't read. That's all.
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>>152551318
>When it was FAR too late to mean anything.

You mean during their second ever conversation? It was entirely Mordred's fault that they never could discuss that before.
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>>152551420
>You mean during their second ever conversation?
This entire argument aside, you're retarded if you think Arturia and Mordred only ever spoke to each other twice in life. Events could not have possibly transpired s they did if the only conversations they ever had were Mordred asking for the throne, and the Battle of Camlann.
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>>152551508
It was the only time Mordred ever took off that fucking helmet. It was impossible to converse with the tincan through that.
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>>152551586
>It was impossible to converse with the tincan through that.
No. Neither Guda nor Kairi had any issues with it.
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