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Feeling like garbage edition


Previous timeline: >>152450635
Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-The Game
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/
>http://undertale.com/

-The Demo
>http://undertale.com/demo.htm

-Booru
>http://under.booru.org/

-Recommendbin
>http://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebin
>http://pastebin.com/UCr5qFpc

-Fangamebin
>http://pastebin.com/ZHASpj9h

-Steam Group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/undertalegen

-Flockdraw
>http://flockmod.com/undertale

-Zeemap
>http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1873782

-Shimejibin
>http://pastebin.com/YFEGhgxY
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nice
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xth for flowey
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sciencefriends
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sans
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>>152487250
I'm invincible
>>152487284
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Would you a buff Tiger Dad who'd train you in martial arts and drink with you while also encouraging you?
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>>152487496
what does nicecream taste like?
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>>152487637
satoshi mizukami is the best
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>>152487637
i dont remember this part from toby fox's undertale
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>>152487620
Draw yourself being suspicious around a kindergarten
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>>152487637
got out of here /mg/
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>>152487643
Ice cream, depends on the flavor.
Also nth for bot and ghost I guess
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>>152487620
thanks papa
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I WANT TO FUCK THE GOAT
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>>152487943
Long time no see
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>>152487791
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>>152487643
i guess it tastes like icecream with many flavors, just like >>152487825 said
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>>152487501
Omega
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>>152488201
Thank you frick
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>>152488201
>maybe sexual predator guy
my sides
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>>152487250
What's the spicy new meme around shitposter guy?
>>152487791
You seem to have a greater affinity for tape these days.
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>>152488201
Where is Frickgote?
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Keeping warm with your favorite as fall and winter approach!
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>>152488201
>maybe sexual predator guy
oh my god i'm dying
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>>152488201
>Maybe_Sexual_Predator_Guy.png
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>>152488201
>Maybe_Sexual_Predator_Guy.png
Are you having doubts?
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What does MSPG stands for? Master sexual prosecuted guy? Mostly sexually perverted guy?
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>>152488431
Aight.
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>>152488201
Frick you maniac.
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>>152488952
Last one
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>>152488952
MS (Microsoft) Paint Guy.

I will still always prefer Master ShitPoster Guy.
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>>152488431
Sure
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>>152488431
yes
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>>152488952
Marginally Suspicious Pizza Guy
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>>152488431
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>>152489153
It was a shitpost, I know it stands for MSPaint Guy.
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>>152488952
Mysterious Spanish Pedo Guy
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i like this goat
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>>152489235
I still want to fuck that robot.

>>152488431
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>>152489504
I gave both answers to hedge my bets. You might have just been new.
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>>152489618
I understand, don't worry.
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>>152489505
no that's the owner of discord
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Here's a spooky image.
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>>152489589
>I still want to fuck that robot.
We all do botfriend.
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>>152489906
>dat mom

someone please hug me
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>>152490051
you have no one to hug for a reason
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>>152489858
>Alternate universe where Omega Flowey won, and decided to play with dolls for the rest of time out of boredom and madness
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>>152490120
I actually do have a bf

check mate
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>>152490212
>momfag
>is gay
shit taste desu
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>>152490182
Keep in mind Frisk isn't a doll in that picture.
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>>152490182
And Frisk pretends not to have watched.
"I did not see you play with your dolls again"
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>>152489906
asgore looks like he's gonna sneeze
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The spider a cute! CUTE!!!
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>>152490338
because momfag, gay or both?
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>>152490434
Pees on u
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>>152490383
that's my fetish
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>>152490338
Maybe it's a girl for some reason
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>>152490480
He's gay so he should be lusting after Sans and Papyrus like a normal person
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>>152490434
Nice headcanon.
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>>152490182
>>152490339
>>152490367
>except one of the dolls is a livingfrisk and he controls them through vines
>constructs a while underground out of theater sets using his powers and enacts various scenarios
>all of the 'actors' are actual puppets, except for frisk
>he gets very pissed when they break character
>always 'wrings the wires' a bit to make the 'puppet' work again
>frisk follows orders to avoid getting hurt
>flowey still kills them in the third act anyway
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>>152490553
But I'm gay and I lust after Mettaton
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So I gave it some serious thought and I decided that this goat is in fact still my favorite character
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>>152490434
//pees on u// ;3c
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>>152490553
i'm gay and i don't lust for any of them
aren't snas and papaya for girls only?
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>>152490434
Da
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>>152490553
shit taste desu
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>>152491045
He said, gay, not furfag
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>>152490553
Sans and Papyrus are for straight girls.
Most of the gay men like Asgore.
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>>152491045
That chesthair looks so appealing to just fall asleep on
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>>152491214
>Most of the gay men like Mettaton
fixed that for you.
He's much more appealing to the taste of the majority of gay men that hang out on 4chan
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>>152491214
>implying every homo is into bara
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>>152491214
>Most of the gay men like Asgore.
>implying
Do remember Asgore is the most disliked non-Alphys character.
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>>152491239
I know right?
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>>152491036
Oui.
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>>152490434
So the spider I got in the mail wasn't cute.
I want to return it so I can get a refund, but a non-cute spider is a paradox.
I am afraid to touch it because I don't feel like dealing with wormholes today,
Who do I call? I would like to get this sorted ut as soon as possible.
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>>152491239
>you will never fall asleep while resting your head on the goat's chest, feeling his warmth and listening to his heartbeat
why am i alive
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>>152491239
Especially because you can feel his chest rise and fall when he breathes.
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>>152490434
Giving the baby spider her bath!
Making sure she has her rubber ducky!
Pulling the plug in the bathtub to drain the water!
Not helping the baby spider out first!
The baby spider not being able to climb out!
The baby spider panicking and slipping and falling over and hurting her face and chipping a tooth!
The baby spider being cold, afraid, in pain, and crying a lot!
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>>152491045
this
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>>152491472
> a non-cute spider is a paradox

so are you certain that it's a spider, then

not a scorpion, or an especially hirsute tick
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>>152491563
>not dropping a toaster in
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>>152491535
>your neck is fucked up by the motion throughout the night
>the goat has to order you a new pillow
>having no knowledge of pillows they buy you a hundred different pillows of varying size and firmness
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>>152491642
why kill when you can bully
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>>152491472
Call your mom you pussy. If you manage to find your testicles somehow then gently put the spider back in the box you took it out from and send it back.
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>>152491310
Most of the straight/bisexual guys like Mettaton.
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There is nothing wrong with liking Asgore, he has a interesting character and is cute.

also he's not dead or a child so bonus points if you want to lewd him but it's also okay if you don't
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>>152491487
>>152491535
Please stop
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>>152491472
There are many spiders who are not cute
Pic related
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>>152491893
i want him to eat me
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>>152491857
>straight
>liking Mettaton
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>>152491903
>please continue
And the fur would tickle your nose and cheeks occasionally.
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>>152492064
>implying those "he's a girl right? he looks like a girl and i'm not gay" arguments aren't straight guys
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>>152492064
There's a lot of cuntboy art of him.
And it's totally straight to fap to it if you say no homo.
Also this>>152492204
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>>152491472
Well, this is unheard of. As the other anon said, make sure it is a spider first. If it is, I would suggest calling any higher being from your reality to ask for an explanation and to resolve the problem.
>>152491563
Getting the spider out of the tub!
Drying the spider and treating her wounds!
Putting the spider's favorite show on to get her mind off the pain!
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>>152492204
But then you aren't straight
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>>152491942
Isn't that a robot though?
What even was Beast Wars?
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>>152492064
mettaton is my 3rd or 4th favorite tbqh and im straight as an arrow
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>>152492291
>thatsthejoke.jpg
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>>152490503
>>152490869
Will spiderfags ever recover from this meme?
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>>152491942
I HAD THAT TRANSFORMER AS A TOY MY BROTHER THREW IT INTO THE WOODS
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>>152491942
>muffet's uncle
holy kek
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>>152492145
But it would not bother you, because otherwise it's so comfortable
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>>152491893
he's a cuck though
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>>152491563
>>152492279
I always feel like these could be combined into one truly psychotic fic where a bipolar schizo person is taking care of the spider for some reason.
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>>152492297
Yes but a robot who turns into a spider.
>What even was Beast Wars?
A bretty cool show where Prime was a munky and not a trukk.
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>>152492407
Shut up Doggo.
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>>152492503
only if you believe 4chan memes are canon
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>>152492250
So question
If liking futa is gay for guys
is liking cuntboys gay for girls?
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>>152492573
Stop giving him attention.
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>>152492573
it is canon though
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Post canon.
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>>152492545
Writefags get on it.
>>152492641
Maybe
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>>152492563
doggo is cute! CUTE!!!
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>>152492402
They recovered from the pedo meme
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>>152492402
Only if you stop responding to it.
>>152492545
I assure you I would never hurt the spider. I still wonder how the bully even manages to get in the spider's home.
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>>152492718
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>ywn cuddle lovingly with flowey
>ywn nurture him with little nibbles of your soul
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>>152492641
Yeah
Look at how many of those rainbow fucks on Tumblr draw Mettaton with a pussy
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>>152492718
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>>152492643
I was just joking around with an anon but yeah it's sunday so maybe I should stop before someone gets legitimately triggered
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>>152492457
If you stir during the night, he will be there, his hand holding you, brushing over your hair.
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>>152492915
I wonder what it feels like to have him nibble on your soul.
One day he would try out his boundaries and bite of an especiallybig chunk without warning you first.
Would you gasp in pain or in pleasure?
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>>152492718
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gaster blasters
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>>152492915
I wanna cuddle with this cutie.~
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>won last for papyrus last thread
Hell yeah.
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>>152492718
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>>152493041
For Christ's sake, anon
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>>152493215
Shame that hes still a bad character
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>>152493215
Well when you spam it every thread end it's bound to latch once in a while.
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>>152491214
>Sans and Papyrus are for straight girls.
>tfw a dyke

Pickings are slim when your not a furry
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>>152492718
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>>152492907
Why isn't mettadyne more popular?
Instead we got trash like papyton.
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>>152493186
they're pretty cool
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>>152493347
just chose scalies
They are basically like humans
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>>152493080
a mix of both, probably a bit more pain due to the surprise. your soul could probably regenerate as long as he's mostly careful. he'd probably play with your soul a lot though. soul bondage definitely sounds like something he'd have fun with
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>>152490839
Thats cool. This one happens to be mine
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>>152493391
because undyne disliking mettaton and liking girls is canon

why there isn't more mettalphys is the better question
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>>152493391
i dunno, theyre both trash compared to this metta ship though
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Sundays suck.
How does everyone feel that the 1-year anniversary is close?
How has your tastes changed, be it in characters or music or whatever?

And can someone get >152493592 fucking out of here?
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>>152493592
>Red
Everyone but Chara
>Orange
Chara
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>>152493609
because alphys is fucking psychopath who beat up mettaton every day and threatened to murder blooky if he ever told anyone he wasn't a robot and that his body was actually built by gaster and also she uses him as sex toy every day threatening to tell everyone hes a ghost if he doesn't do what she says
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>>152493592
That's it. Next time someone asks who the worst anons are I'm saying you are.
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>>152493582
Oh...i'm afraid that means we have to be mortal enemies and fight to the death
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I accidentally drank 10 oz of vodka in 20 minutes am I going to die

do I induce vomiting
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>>152493592

this again
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>>152493868
You're fine, don't be a fucking pussy.
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>>152493868
Did you become blind yet?
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>>152493257
When you wake up in the morning, the first thing you see is his smiling face in the morning sunlight.
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>>152493609
Mettalphys a shit. He's better than that.
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>>152490357
silly furry trying to trick me into making dadfur. the joke's on you since I'm bad at drawing animals!

last one for tonight
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>>152494060
That's it
I'm dead
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>>152493592
i don't have a good taste
sorry
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>>152493609
There's a fapfic in the writebin
>>152493614
Well yeah Mettacest is obviously the best.
>>152493697
At first I liked Papyrus the 2nd most.
Now he's number 5.
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*You quietly post Chara
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>>152493806
can we just hug itout?
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>>152494308
KILL YOURSELF
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do botfags do anything besides complain
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>>152494170
Not that guy but that is a pretty cute Asgore

>>152494328
Nope we have to duel!
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>>152493592
Eh
>>152494208
Bretty gud taste desu
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>>152493806
>>152494328
No!
I already got my popcorn ready! Fight! Fight! Fight!
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>>152493592
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>>152494170
Russian Orthodox best church
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>>152493592
fine
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>>152493592
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>>152494308
*You quietly post Chara and their cute sibling
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>>152494432
Where are they complaining?
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>>152494807
>their
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>>152494208
What's with Burgerpants?
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>>152494170
OR here and oh my god you did it!
now I feel the need to do something with him...
also
>that necklace thing I don't know the name with the Gaster's face
very nice touch.
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Why haven't the dozen or so fan albums been uploaded anywhere
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>>152494979
i really like burgerpants
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>>152493697
Scared, mostly because it's going to be chaotic here and I prefer a slow, comfy /utg/.
People are going to be reminiscing about early /utg/, I got here in March so I am going to be left out of a lot of conversations.
People usually compare threads that I hate to early /utg/ so maybe it is for the best I got here late.
I didn't care much for any character at first, now I want figurines of all of them, shame the official ones are hit and miss.
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>>152494973
Sorry
*there
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>>152493592
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>>152493697
Sure I'll just list how my tastes changed / didn't and let you judge
>Asgore
became my favorite after a few weeks
>Papyrus
stayed second since the start
>Sans
Was my favorite but went down to least because of a shit fandom and then went back up to third after a while. I'm super burned out on anything remotly edgy or 'badass' with him though, just give me the lazy pun slinger and i'm good
>Toriel
went from meh to mild dislike after fandom junk and Tumblr momfags soured the character for me
>Alphys
still kind of whatever about. I like her a bit more now I guess
>Flowey
like him a lot more now but he's pretty wasted in both the game and in the fandom.
>Undyne
I always liked Undyne and that hasn't changed
>Mettaton
i'm still pretty neutral on the character but they have good fanart
>Asriel
I feel for the kid but i'm overall pretty neutral to him
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>>152494197
Whoops. Have a goat to compensate.
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>>152495102
You need to let go. He is destined to be with the two trashgirls
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Hey, /utg/. How could I lift my mood up?
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>Tfw Papyrus' cool song will never be released
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>>152494870
every single post with a bot
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>>152494530
Frisk pls
>>152495131
Chara pls
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>>152495395
No not really.

Go be angry elsewhere.
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>>152495291
no way
fuck those bitches
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>>152495302
go score with some hot babes
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>>152495302
Play a videogame.
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>>152495635
>fuck those bitches
That's BP's plan.
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>>152494445
thanks!

>>152494567
Da blyet

>>152495009
I'm glad you saw it! You can do whatever you like with him, I'm actually just happy someone likes this crap haha

according to Wiki "Panagia/Engolpion - medallion usually depiction the Theotokos (Blessed Virgin Mary) holding the Christ Child."

So I thought gaster would fit
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>>152493697
It feels surreal to be honest. It's been such a long ride even though I haven't even been here for a year. I think something irreversible will happen once I've actually spent an entire year here. Coming here every day. I'll always remember 2016 as that weird time in my life that I did nothing but go to /utg/ every day and started drawing a lot.

I was pretty indifferent about the bot when I originally played the game believe it or not. Like I liked his theme a lot and he was neat but it wasn't until a second playthrough later that I started really liking him.

Flowey was pretty terrifying the first time but once he stopped feeling threatening he became kind of funny and cute.
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>>152495256
it helps, I guess
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>>152495762
shut up
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>>152493697

I went from having 'favourites' to liking all the characters. I both wish there was more, a whole lot more, and nothing more at all. I'm just awaiting any news from the Dog, but I can respect if he just wants to sit on his arse for the rest of his life. I guess he can now.
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>>152493697
fanart made me like asriel a lot more
discussion shit and art brought asgore and alphys into my top 3
other than that most of my opinions are the same, neutral on toriel, like flowey, like papyrus, like sans, like badass fish, like robot
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>>152495947
yeah... I'd fuck Chara.
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>>152493697
I like all the characters and the music. My taste hasn't changed
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why didn't sans become the royal scientist when his dad died
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>>152493697
It certainly does not feel like it's been a year at all. I'm looking forward to the shitfest that may unfold.
My favorites have not changed too much. The only one I could say has climbed my list considerably is Papyrus. Everyone else has stayed relatively the same the whole time.
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But seriously, why is Asgore trimming a hedge like that? Such position tires your hand and he isn't looking what he's doing.
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Hahaa! Time for music! Music is my favorite type of music. How about you /utg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POHscfRZty8
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>>152496383
he lazy
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>>152496383
Because he's a lazy bag of bones.
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>>152496516
He's smiling towards the camera
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>>152496516
he wants to hide the buttplug
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>>152496516
That's what happens when you're not good at angles. It's a newbie-artist mistake.
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>>152487414
I forgot the Rabi Papyrus image last thread. Here you go.
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>>152495919
If I may ask, what else do you like about the goat? Perhaps his floppy listeners?
Or his waggly bun tail?
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>>152496383

who is dad
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>>152496383
He was too depressed.

>>152496516
Well a man has to challenge himself sometimes. It's a pretty good trim considering that he doesn't even need to look.
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>>152496586
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLuk0jHoZfNA2dviNvDtTv9LJowsLxW-mU&v=e9S4i356X98
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>>152496760
the brilliant dr. w. d. gaster
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>>152496516
Toby can't into pixelart

or art
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>>152496663
>It's a newbie-artist mistake
You could've just used an official /utg/ meme response and call toby a hack
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>>152496731
A lot of thing
His floppy ears are really cute. But also his soft white paws.
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>>152497095
Sometimes a slightly-more-thorough explanation is needed.
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>>152493697
The only thing that's stayed consistent is my favorite. My opinion of everyone else is generally positive or neutral, but my interest in them fluctuates a lot.

>>152496586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcWDtoADoqU
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>>152496719
Shouldn't the spider be the jew?
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What if Monster Kid was Gaster all along?
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>>152497675
Bonestrousle already sounds like traditional jewish music, so it's only fitting.
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>>152497675
>implying Muffet is allowed in any religious practices
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so what is 'genocide' in underfell? Retribution?
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>>152497941
obviously the spider dance is a religious one.
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>>152497715
what if monster kid is gaster's fourth child from alphys, the first three being sans, papyrus, and goner kid
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>>152498056
does this mean I can sex her now?
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>>152498032
Ah
So it's like what Charafags believe Chara to be like
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>>152495024
if youre talking about that album in particular it has been uploaded somewhere, just a long time ago. you could probably trawl through the archive for a link.
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Posting most recent update again. If I've missed anything or wrote a bad summary or anything else, be sure to tell me. And sorry if this is getting annoying, I don't mean for it to be.

What I've added:

>“How The Mighty Fall” – (Doogle fic, Frisk, Sans, Pap and Undyne play a friendly game of Jenga)
>“REMOVE SUMMER” – (Anon/Toriel, Anon and Toriel are comfy, third person pov)
>“Empty Desks” – (Doogle fic, Toriel late at the school grading papers contemplates her life)
>“GAMERTALE” – (Frisk makes Flowey a meal fit for a gamer)
>“Super Goatdad” – (Doogle fic, Asgore and Frisk bonding over vidya)
>“New Skin” Part 3 – (Anon stumbles into the Underground and gets transformed into a monster. Previous parts are in the writebin)
>“Just Another Hike Up a Mountain” – (Asriel goes on a hike, emotions happen with Chara and Frisk and there’s a picnic)
>“Overtale” Chapters 2, 3, 4 & 5 – (Original character donut steels, cyberpunk? not sure how else to summarize this, AU, First chapter is in the writebin)
>“Kindling” – (Milka fic, Toriel teaching Asriel fire magic)
>“In which Chara dropkicks a Space Pirate and I'm not joking” – (Nothing much more to say. Chara dropkicks a Space Pirate)
>“Salad” – (Flowers are good for you, implied vore/eating, implied character death, technically sfw since it doesn’t go into detail)
>“Kissu Flowe” – (Onesided Flowey/Frisk, Flowey forces Frisk to kiss him, dark fic)
>“Piano Lessons” – (Doogle fic, Asgore is invited over to Toriel's House to give Frisk music lessons)
>“Just desserts” – (Onesided Flowey/Frisk, Flowey forces Frisk to give him a blow(vine)job, noncon)
>“Overtale Side-Ops” #1 – (Side story set in the same world as the “Overtale” fic)
>“Shota Asriel Vore” – (Reader/Asriel, second person pov, shota asriel vore)
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>>152498032
>its literally what chara dindus think canon was like
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>>152498226
topkek
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>>152498226

nah I'm a Charafag and like the demon I like trying to give them character, but no dindu shit

All the dindus though must have got it from this though
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>>152497675
>>152497941

Okay here is Jewish Muffet.
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>>152498035
It's a tarantella
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>no undertale dreams for a long time, even though i come here every fucking day and read fanfics and have thoughts about my fav characterse all the time
>had another dream about stands
why does my brain hate me

have you guys had any undertale dreams lately
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>>152497235
His strength hidden under a fluffy layer of fur and flesh. Those paws are indeed very cute. And his footpaws...rounded and fluffy all the same, but with paw pads.
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>>152498604
I had a dream I was Undyne, and had lesbian sex with another Undyne.
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>>152498032
Geno is actually against Chara's wishes. Chara actually ends up appearing at the end of TP and thanks you for being nice to the monsters in Underfell.
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>>152498604
You got a fetish for stands or something, buddy?
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>>152498516
I am just teasing. I like it that way too and I think most partners here share that sentiment.
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>>152498584
that was a really good one anon
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>>152498516
>>152498398

erm yeah
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>>152498549
Doing god's work anon.
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>>152498792

that's pretty awesome

what happens at the end of genocide though? Does Asriel get released? Or just nothing?
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>>152498604
I had one where I was Napstablook, chilling with Mettaton.
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>>152498680
Goodbye anon. I can't take this anymore.
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>>152499036
Thank you. Did you want any other characters in any other religious outfits?
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Good afternoon /utg/, I love you!
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>>152498878

Ah okay. Greetings there.
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>>152499191
Inquisitor Flowey
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>>152499056
I may be misremembering, but I think Flowey gets all six human SOULs as well as Asgore's and returns to his mean monster form, them transforms into his OC to kill you.

TP has Flowey turn into Alpha Flwoey and pacify the monsters.

If I am wrong, it's because I never cared too much about Underfell. I'm sure someone can explain it better than me.
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>>152499193
Good afternoon lad!
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>>152499082
No, anon don't go
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>>152499056
>>152499334
I really should get back on writing Underfell one of these days.
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>>152499191
Alphys as a miko?
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>>152498787
was it nice, was it like a lucid dream?

>>152498815
i don't know. it was a stand that could summon a huge truck and drag stuff into it, we were using it to sell stuff on the black market (things like cars mostly)


>>152499079
that sounds amazing. dd you do anything specific or just lounge around like garbage?
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>>152499529
eww
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>>152498604
Yes, every night this week.
Last night I had one where I was Papyrus and got sad that I couldn't chew bubblegum.
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>>152499332
more like Woshua
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>>152499334
>tp alpha Flowey pacifies the monsters
Fuck this makes so much more sense than what I tried to ever come up with
Switching the runs around makes everything piece together better.
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>>152499497
same. do it faggot we need more fics that arent tumblr-tier garbage.
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>>152499334

Ah, that makes sense I guess. Just as Flowey and Chara are inverted, so are the endings. Where instead of the monsters being more human than the humans... and so on. Sorta.

It's actually kinda interesting, but I'm sick of seeing shit like UF fontcest, so eh. Thanks for trying to explain.
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>>152499473
But only for you, anon
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>>152499619
that sounds really sad.
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>>152499193
go back to bed
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>>152499193
Afternoon cratelad.
>>152499497
I would enjoy reading it if you would write it. I've read near everything on the pastebin at this point.
>>152499743
>>152499917
Yeah, that is sorta how Underfell works, a lot of things and concepts are swapped.
And no problem, I'm just sorry I can't explain it better or find a source of information on it that isn't just skeleton porn.
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>>152499332
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>>152499556
>that sounds amazing. dd you do anything specific or just lounge around like garbage?
I don't remember much but I think it was just laying down and feeling like garbage. Pretty relaxing dream.
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>>152499556
Yes, it was a very lucid dream I had to wash my blanket after I woke up
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>>152499932
Thank you, anon. How are you doing today?
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>All these wonderful stories of dreams involving Undertale characters
>mine are just nonsense which fade from my mind like Gaster
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>>152499805
>>152499917
The whole thing's pretty much mapped out for a Neutral/TP run, just need to actually get down to it. Alpha Flowey does feature, but not with a pacify ending and I plan on fitting the Sans battle into the run as well, though with a fittingly silly surprise. I'm approaching the whole UF storyline with surface silliness, while dark undercurrents.
>>152500037
First two chapters are up on the pastebin, so you've probably read it, I just haven't had the chance to update in several months.
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>>152500263
Just a lazy Sunday where I didn't get to do what I wanted to do.
Why do you ask?
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>>152500037

No worries bub, thank you for explaining how you could.
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>>152500405
I had a dream I was Mettaton and I made a decapitated Taylor swift head give me a blowjob.

I'm not even a botfag.
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>>152500405
I've had several but of course I don't remember them.
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>>152500405
I only ever had /utg/ dreams
I hate myself
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>>152499529
Sure. Here you are.
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>>152500569
I remember a comic exactly like this but Chara stabs Asriel and skips away, I can't find it anywhere.
Do you have it?
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>>152500434

That sounds pretty interesting, keeping it light whilst still including heavier elements. Not taking it too seriously. It's a balance I'm still trying to get right for my own story.
Ergo, good luck man. Where are you posting it? Just to the pastebin?
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>>152499971
it was better than the 'I'm Sans and I need to clean the litterbox so I just dump it in the neighbor's garden' dream

>>152500405
try alcohol
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>>152500726
Thanks!

>>152499605
It's the only thing I can see her become
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>>152500796

I don't sorry, but I would like it too from the sounds of it! Both outcomes are interesting
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>>152501053
You're welcome, glad you like it.
Anyone else want an Undertale drawn in religious clothing?
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>>152501053
I'd rather see Fishie as a miko desu
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>>152501186
Shyren as a choir girl.

Or a choir fish.
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>>152500502
Oh, no reason, just curious and attempting to continue conversation.At least about something other than Asriel.
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>>152501168
shift asriel is too cute

i don't like much of anything about that au and his character isn't even anything amazing but he's so damn cute
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>>152501419
You can talk about other characters, anon
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>>152501419
this isn't fucking imvu fuck off
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>>152501489

I like it too but Asriel is a little generic when you step back, and Chara is way too whiny- basically fanon Sans.
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>>152501646
I lol'd, good job anon.
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>>152501858
I found Chara just as flat and boring as canon Sans desu
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>>152501858
shift chara is a tremendous bore because without the ambiguous moral situation around their character you've really got nothing left, so all that's left to fill in the blanks is, yes, fanon sans

on the other hand, take all the intrigue and tragedy away from asriel and what's left is bland but still cute as hell
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>>152500928
Thank you! It's on the pastebin, and should have Ao3 links in them as well. It's 'Saturday Morning Underfell'

You're working on a story as well, I take it? Will you be posting it?
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>>152501325
It's kind of off, but here.
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>>152501493

let's talk about frisk

(-_-)
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>>152496586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh7t1-tWSnE

There's just something about the radio stations in VC. Nothing in any game since has topped them. The commercials are the funniest out of all the ones in GTA and the hosts are neat and the music is 10/10.
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>>152502121
>without the ambiguous moral situation around their character you've really got nothing left
That's basically all the Storyshift characters, isn't it?

I mean, besides Undyne, who's just a crazy person for Asgore to boss around like a cool daddy that Toriel will 100% forgive and fuck later.
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>>152502128
didn't realize you posted here without a name
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>>152502309
Undyne is literally the same character
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>>152502128

No worries. Cheers man, I'll check it out!

Yep, gonna finish writing it and see how it reads before I post it.
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>>152502230
What is Frisk's deal.

Are they incredibly strong willed because they are able to try again and again or incredibly weak willed because in the end they only do what the player tells them to?
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>>152502535
frisk wins because of the player's determination

anything special about frisk besides that is headcanon
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>>152502103
>>152502121

I guess you're right. Given that Chara is a blank slate aside from a couple of things, it would be hard to fit them in, but the author could have done better than just Sans it up.

That said, you're right. Asriel, and even Chara are cute, they just need to be characterised better...
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>>152501858
yeah, i really dislike shift chara, just way too boring and not enough cute to offset it like asriel

asriel in general is too generic when he's not flowey though so i can't fault storyshift too much in that regard at least
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>>152502535

Frisk is pure headcanon aside from the determination, and Chara is too aside from murderous tendencies and buttheadedness

ergo, toby is a hack, etc etc
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>>152502702
It depends on which author's material you read. Just as there has been interesting interpretations of Sans, Shift Chara probably has good stories out there too. There are more sites than Pastebin that have Undertale stuff.
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>>152502309
is there any hint about what asgore did thats bad yet or is it still just 'alphys but didn't hide the amalgamates thus taking away most moral ambiguity'
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Is Toby even doing anything with Undertale anymore? What do you guys even talk about other then liking specific characters?
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>>152502926
Well, it's not unusual for an RPG character to be a blank slate.
But Toby also saw fit to include some vague references to their true background which makes it doubly frustrating that there is no follow-up on it
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Storyshift was literally made so people can go on a date with the shota they so frequently fawn over, its fact.
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>>152502845

good point about the Flowey thing. Without Flowey, would we have all liked Asriel so much when he was revealed?
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>>152502446
Have fun with it! And good luck with your fic, the more content we have in this general, the better!
>>152502310
I lurk sporadically, but I usually try not to post too much with a name, unless I can actually contribute with something.
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>>152502702
It's like >>152502845 said though, we don't know enough about Asriel and Chara's personalities in canon, so it's hard to gauge what a good characterization of them would be in fanwork.
I don't think the creator of Storyshift should've put them in such major roles.
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>>152503069
yeah, it seems to have slowed down hardcore after they were done with asriel, though i think it's fanservice to all the goats given asgore and toriel's places in the story too
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>>152503053
Gay stuff. That's the answer to both questions.
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>>152503069
Let's not pretend it wasn't made for Chara and the skeletons
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>>152503307
t. asrielfag
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>>152503151
>implying Asrielfags liked Flowey
People attached to Asriel so much because of the emotional shit at the end of this battle. Pity is an easy way to make people like a character.
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I wonder if we'll ever get to shift 2 in storyshift.
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>>152503194
Would they have been better in minor roles like Napstablook?
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>>152503307
that makes no sense given the skeletons are in the roles we see the least of out of all the main characters, and the goats are all in the roles you interact with the most
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>>152503307
Most art has Asriel, i think its clear who was the star of the AU.
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>>152503307
but storyshift barely has anything for the skeletons

>>152503457
not unless someone else makes it
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>>152503069
Nothing wrong with admitting the facts.
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>>152503063

I guess. The trouble is outside of those vague references, Frisk is a non-character as a result outside of what we ascribe to them; ergo headcanons. A few of those references are also comparisons to Chara, who is also a very vague character.

Hence like you say, it's frustrating
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>>152503069
storyshift was made so maybe sexual predator guy could draw a comic with shota
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>>152503613
He already did

And he made his OC prance around naked infront of Asriel and turn him on
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>>152503038

I've been reaming through a lot on fanfiction.net

not much good so far
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>>152503484
Eh, that means one of them is Mettaton, who takes up a good chunk of the screentime. It'd be better than Sans/Papyrus though.
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>>152503069
>not wanting to go on a date with the goat

shameful
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not gonna lie i'm a skeletonfag who doesnt like storyshift but there's a ton of skeleton-centric aus so i'm okay with throwing the goatfags and charafags a bone
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>>152503046
No, which sucks since Asgore without that is boring as fuck and I say that as a dadfag.

Also Toriel was fucked with since they pretty much removed all her character flaws and mistakes by actually having her save Chara and just blamed the past stuff on 'she somehow didn't know Sans was killing people' which is retarded.
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>>152503576
They aren't meant to be real characters. Frisk is just meant to represent the player archetype who goes against the standard method of play with grinding and killing everything, and Chara is the opposite, the archetype who goes in with no connection to the world and no purpose but to dominate and destroy for fun. They both just represent the player depending on how they play the game.

Making Chara an actual important character in the story was fucking stupid.
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>>152503194

good point. Chara is nearly all headcanon which is why I enjoy trying to figure it out so much, and Asriel is quite generic when it comes to it, due to the lack of characterisation; this shines through in storyshift.
I guess not much could be done about Asriel without some serious thinking, but Chara could have been done differently at least.

As for the roles, I guess the author had to use those two to get people interested initially
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>>152504024
6/10
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>>152503894
wrong goat desu friend
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>>152504351
Why not all three?
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>>152504146
I wish Toby hadn't included the Chara possession and soul stealing business, I always felt it was stupid and unnecessary.
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>>152504146

i agree. Whatever character that is in storyshift has Chara's name, but isn't really, which sorta makes it pointless. If Toby had actually given them character, sure, but as you say at the most basic level, Chara is an archetype. Any character ascribed is headcanon.
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>>152504437
I don't like Toriel and I consider even edge Asriel a child BUT hey do what you want, they're all fictional after all.
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>>152503406
This desu.
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>>152504437
>triple dating the goat family

That would make one kinky scenario on bed.
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>>152503457
I hope so, I wanna see these guys
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>>152504205
the thing a lot of the game theorist crowd doesn't get is that there's nothing to "figure out" about chara, any theory is pretty much as valid as the next

this is why i find the narrachara crowd so obnoxious, because they take the theory as gospel despite having to constantly make mental gymnastics to consistently fit it into the non-genocide routes
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>>152504768
>sorielbait

meh
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>>152504674
Also really awkward unless the Dreemurrs are hardcore swingers
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>>152504768

who would Chara and Asriel be in this scenario?
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>>152504674
Asgore from behind while you fuck Toriel and suck off Asriel?
or
I guess you could fuck Asgore while giving oral to Toriel and having Asriel fuck you
or
suck off Asgore while fucking Toriel and having Asriel fuck you

however you want to go about it
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>>152504961
Chara dead, Asriel non-existent because his parents never fucked.
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>>152504867
>this is why i find the narrachara crowd so obnoxious, because they take the theory as gospel
exactly. Screencapped for future use.
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>>152504867
I don't know what you mean about mental gymnastics, Charnarrator is one of the easiest of the headcanons to understand.
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>>152504768
this might not be it, but there's a version of this that really annoys me, where these two are just siblings and sans takes toriel's place.

how fucking insecure do you have to be about your pairing, if you have to first turn a canon (if divorced) pairing into siblings, just so nothing can get in the way?
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>>152505140
It's more about all the other weird proof and evidence that they accumulate to justify it
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>>152504867

oh, when I say 'figure out', I mean come up with a character for them. A headcanon. Because in game there's nothing, which is the truth until the Dog says otherwise.

And narrachara is nice, but fuck the dindu shit, and no it isn't gospel. It's just that- nice, but saying it's truth is bullshit because it's not established
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>>152504867
>mental gymnastics
You really don't have to do gymnastics for any of the Undertale theories.
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>>152505140
headcanon it all you want, but when people try to fit it into the story to prove it as true there's some points where it just doesnt work out.
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>>152504949
Its all the rage in the monster kingdom.
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>>152504961
Asriel would be in the ruins, maybe after having a rebellious phase and locking himself in there, and Chara would be king
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>>152505060

So... who would fill the empty roles then? I thin they're supposed to keep their age by the way
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>>152505230
>>152504947
Okay i'm not going to defend the dumb creator or the shitty AU but desu senpai shota Asgore is pretty cute and I appreciate a Soriel shipper who has enough good taste to still like Asgore

but of course he's not for lewd like normal Asgore
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>>152505294
???
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>>152505140
it's inarguable that chara intrudes into the narration in the genocide route, but a lot of people paintstakingly dissect every single line of non-character text in the game for how chara says it/what light it sheds on their personality/how they relate to other characters, and it's all nonsense and it leads to even dumber theories like how chara's the one really responsible for you winning the final TP battle or whatever

as far as i'm concerned most of undertale's narration is the standard "quirky narrator" fare that games like earthbound use, with occasional foreshadowing or hints dropped to other events - it has no actor or speaker

it's not until genocide where chara starts to intrude on that text directly, because genocide is chara's route
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>>152505254
Somewhat understandable, but Charnarrator is a attempt to characterize Chara through in game elements.
>>152505345
Such as? I will happily talk about it if you'd like, but you have to be more specific.
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>>152505294
MIND BLOWN
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>>152505230
yeah it's really dumb

especially since toriel and asgore being a couple in those roles would actually add a new and interesting dynamic as opposed to just not-skeleton siblings, and it's cute
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>>152505140
>>152504867
oh fuck, now you've done it.

there are charranarra bits that aren't consistent and either assume chara gives zero fucks about anyone (doesn't work because narrachara assumes excitement over the asriel fight), or is just hilariously callous and therefore an asshole.

my bigger problem is that narrachara isn't treated as a theory you put together from bits in the game, it's a conclusion that the theorists then pick and choose justifications for.
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>>152505230

I don't think Sans would take the Toriel role in this scenario

more like Alphys
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booby
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>>152505465
>shota asgore

...asriel?
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>>152505294
what the hell
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>>152505640
Asriel is bald and not based on Papyrus who is the second best character so at worst all the AU did was switch my favorite with my second favorite
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>>152505454
Alphys is Chara because Mengele and Undyne is Flowey.
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>>152505639
yeah!
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>>152505294
lmao
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>>152505638
there's at least on AU that did it, that's mostly how I know of it in the first place
>>152505465
no problems with asgore as a separate character in these, it's just the blatant ship-redirection that ends up being cringey
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>no AU where encounter monsters and NPCs fill the roles of the main cast
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>>152505639
Delicious!
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hey guys do you like my new AU it's called (You)tale
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>>152505972
>he doesn't know about Pumpkins AU
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>>152502305

>Vice City's radio

10/10 indeed
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>>152505972
Actually there's one on plebbit where the Snowdrake family replace the Dreemurrs and Vegetoid is Flowey.
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>152506038
Never heard of it
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>>152505972
pumpkin kinda has that
I think muffet is sans in it
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>152506038
hey thats pretty good
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>>152505539
Seeing how Chara has been dead for a long time, the only characters they would actually know is Asgore, Toriel, and Asriel, so any other comment on a character could be anything from first impressions to sarcastic comments or any other range of comments.
And what doesn't make sense in Chara helping you win the TP battle? You use memories of good times with your friends to SAVE them, and Chara uses their memories of good times with Asriel to SAVE him.
>>152505590
The largely accepted idea is that they are in a state similar to Flowey, and are unable to feel most emotions, hence them being callous.
I will concede that second part though, some of us do incorporate it as part of the game rather than fan theory.
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>>152506104

reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K04yAMltBQs
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>>152506038
stop while you can
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>>152505968
Yeah that would suck if your a fan of the ship but man you know how Soriel shippers are. I just count it as a win that sometimes I get cute kid Asgore art though it

also some people make them a couple in it anyways
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>>152506042
>Snowdrake
automatic trash
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>>152506269
wait, if Chara is in a similar state as Flowey, why/how would they help Asriel
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AU WHERE A SQUAD OF US MARINES FALL INTO THE UNDERWORLD AND KILL ALL MONSTERS USING GUNS AND TACTICOOL TECHNOLOGY AND JUST AS ASGORE IS FORCED TO FACE THEM THE BARRIER GOES DOWN AND REVEALS THAT ALL YOU NEEDED WAS A GARAGE DOOR CLICKER TO TAKE THE BARRIER DOWN
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>>152506269
> And what doesn't make sense in Chara helping you win the TP battle?

because it take agency away from Frisk/the player and foists it all onto Chara, someone who, again, doesn't have any discernible character outside of the genocide route. it's 100% a product of the dindu crowd that wants chara to be responsible for everything extraordinary about the protagonist

when you SAVE everyone in TP you break them out of their despair by unlocking their good memories. likewise when you SAVE asriel you unlock his memories of chara. chara isn't responsible for any of this. it's strictly an interaction between you and asriel

this reminds me of how people also thought that the SAVE option was actually for chara because the game uses the pronoun "them," instead of that happening just because, you know, it leaves things ambiguous for dramatic effect with the SAVE option pops up
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>>152506269

Hence the ellipses used for Asgore, the comments for Toriel, the whole serious mode. But that alone doesn't prove anything.
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>>152506104
>>152506379
Well here's the imgur.
http://m.imgur.com/a/WtCxY
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>>152506525
>not liking Snowdrake
trash taste desu senpai
>>
Reminder that all shipping besides Alphdyne, and Dog marriage after and during the game is strictly headcanon!
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>>152506269
if the accepted idea is that Chara is soulless, why would they even care about Asriel to save him? Killing Toriel results in nearly the same dialogue, so would that mean they're only soulless when killing Toriel?

it's inconsistencies like this that drag it down for me.
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>>152506638
sounds fitting for the marines desu
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>>152505543
im not really into chara narrator so i probably cant point out any specifics. just tidbits of what i picked up from the thread.
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>>152506798
Maybe Chara just thinks Toriel is shit
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>>152506737
And of course Gasterperson
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>>152506709

that's pretty nice actually, thanks
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>>152506737
scarf mouse x jester is clearly canon you tremendous retard
>>
Every i feel like im slipping into degeneracy even more. What to do?
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>>152506737
What about the Royal Guards?
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>>152506737
I want Alphys to fuck Dogaressa
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>>152506737
>Implying Mettacest isn't canon
Play the game pleb
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>>152506525
>trash character replaces another trash character
seems fine to me desu.
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>>152506941
same so i dunno lol
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>>152506042
Snowdrake is so cute
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Did the mouse ever get the cheese?
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>>152506941
stop being so weak
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>>152506737
did you not play true pacifist, idiot

moron

did you not see the post tp asriel and frisk date where asriel lathers frisk in shotagoatbro creamies,,
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>>152506737
I'm cool with that, lets me enjoy all my meme Asgore ships

>>152507081
Yeah he is
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>>152507086
yes
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>>152506798

i think the idea they use is that Chara is piggybacking off of Frisk's soul, which is why in genocide when you have anything higher than LV1... going back to the book in the librarby, about how human souls aren't necessarily 'feeling'.

But again, headcanons.
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>>152507086
In TP, yes.
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>>152506606
>>152506798
Because they are following Frisk's lead. They are disorientated from waking up from being dead for x amount of years, and the first thing they see is a kid like them with the same type of SOUL as them. However Frisk ACTs, Chara usually follows.
>>152506671
Enabling Chara to help you doesn't mean it takes agency away from the player. Chara can only SAVE Asriel when they choose the option, they depend on your SOUL to stay alive, require your input for nearly anything. If anything, they are nothing more than an extension and commentary on the player's actions.
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>>152506901
I genuinely want more artwork of that pairing
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>>152507086
yuh
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>Discussions of both Storyshift and charrator
>No shit storms.
I didn't know the planets were aligned today.
Neat.
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>>152507119
>>152507154
>>152507318
That's nice
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>>152506941
Wank to a "degenerate" fetish of your choice, but with hentai. Remember: it's literally only bad if furries do it, so as long as it doesn't cross that line, you'll be just fine!
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>>152506737
canon-wise after tp sans comes to alphys & undyne house and smirks and puts on fire eye while looking at alphys and says "hey kiddo you miss me...." and alphys asks if he's been drunk and sans chuckles badassfully and says to alphys that she cant resist him, she knows she will come back to him and alphys say to him that what they had wasn't healthy and she wants him out of her life and undyne tells him to leave but sans says YOU FUCKIN KIDDO SLUT WHORE BAD TIME and pulls out ecto knife and slices alphys's snout off and then teleports out before the police arrive and alphys in hospital for weeks while undyne at her bedside wishing that she didn't fear and respect sans so much that she let it happen to alphys
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>>152507372

because the charafags are level-headed non-dindus

at least, I am
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>>152506709
>Muffet is implied to be Chara by that save name
>Muffet is now actually a demon
Top kek
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>>152507385
>YOU FUCKIN KIDDO SLUT WHORE BAD TIME
Please, never stop posting.
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>>152506901
Sure.
>>152506912
No it isn't you microscopic nimrod
>>152506951
And them, I guess. They don't really count
>>152506957
It's not lore friendly.
>>152506978
I did. No Mettacest.
>>152507106
That was retconned in the Platinum seller dlc about Gasterperson
>>152507116
Fine.
>>152507385
OH right. I forgot about that.
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>>152507372
and on a sunday too. this is a truly a golden age.
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>>152507258

I think what he means is that at the end, sure you instruct Chara to save Asriel, but it's because of them that the he is saved. Or something.
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>>152507385
heh
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>>152506868
fine by me, it's just the dindu crowd that would start breathing fire from even the assumption that chara didn't love everyone

hilariously, i've even seen a dindu theory at one point that ran with the idea that asriel at the end of TP is just lying to you about chara being a not-great person, so he can gain sympathy from you
>>152507258
so are they soulless or following orders? are they an asshole or do they have no agency at all? do they give you the *save and actually give no fucks, or do you pick it in your own? you can't just pick and choose which rule applies when.
>Enabling Chara to help you doesn't mean it takes agency away from the player. Chara can only SAVE Asriel when they choose the option, they depend on your SOUL to stay alive, require your input for nearly anything.
that is the most bullshit fucking semantics i've seen in a very long time. think about what the hell you've just written there.
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>>152507385
>ecto knife
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>>152507497

So the spiders sealed the monsters away in this AU?
sealed away by web

fuck
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>>152506941
I meant "everyday"

>>152507378
Eh, i dunno, i already some fetishes, but when it comes to undertale i deny myself from sexualizing anyone. At least at this moment.
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>>152507385
That was my favorite part of the game.
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>>152507670
>>152507258
Do you really need to argue? It's pointless without Toby's word
Talk about Ice cream instead.
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>>152506709
>your
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>>152507639
chara isn't involved at all with asriel being saved, outside of memories. asriel snaps out of it because you save all the other major characters whose souls he's taken. then he's reminded of someone he loved himself, and regains his empathy long enough to calm down and back off

chara doesn't choose the option, chara doesn't follow your lead. chara does nothing at all in any route except genocide

it's easy to forget just how far afield the fandom's interpretation of that character has swung since the game came out. sometimes i need to remind myself that they don't even have an actual name, "chara" is a damn placeholder name that started as a programming in-joke. they have virtually no character or agency at all outside of what occurs in Genocide
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>>152507316
How much is there?
It seems to have been forgotten about outside of /utg/
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>>152507670
>asriel at the end of TP is just lying to you about chara being a not-great person, so he can gain sympathy from you
This is why I love /utg/, even the dindus didn't believe that for a second.
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>>152507670

The face that Chara wanted to use Asriel's OC to wipe out that village proves that they weren't the nicest, and this is pretty much dead-fact. Sure, it doesn't necessarily mean 'full-demon', but it sure as hell means they're willing to kill.

I love Chara, but fuck the dindus.
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>>152507372
t-t-timeloop?
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>>152507372
We can all have civil discourse over our disagreements, usually.
>>152507670
They are SOULless and following Frisk, and they are a nigh-emotionless child who just criticizes and comments on Frisk's actions, only taking action at the very end of both extremes of the runs (killing Asgore/Flowey in Geno and SAVEing Asriel in TP, both of which could only be accomplished via Frisk.)
I am trying to express my thoughts as concisely as possible, but I apologize if it's not clear what I am trying to express.
>>152507873
I try to talk over these kinds of topics to try and better refine my own thoughts on it.
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>>152508020
> wanted to re-ignite the war between humans and monsters
> not a great person
What's wrong?
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>152508140
delet urself
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>>152508140
!!!
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>>152508096
>wanted to use Asriel's OC
Wait, hold up. Is this actually ever confirmed that they looked like that after merging souls? I thought it was just in fanart
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>>152507258
So they're a non-character with zero agency? What's the point or the appeal? If they're following Frisk's lead for the entire time, why don't they say anything if I do something strange, like abort a genocide run or go through a near pacifist run and suddenly kill a monster? Especially since they're the narrator.

And I thought Asriel's whole reason for being saved was the monster souls letting him feel all the love for Frisk
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>>152507553
>No Mettacest
MADMAN
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>>152508306
Is hot, but Undyne wouldn't be a pot degenerate. She cares about her body.
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>>152507994

wasn't there that little theory that as Asriel picked the name Flowey for himself, that the fallen child picked the name <insert player-stipulated name here>? "Chara's" real name is unknown, hence on the status screen... "Chara"

I don't think I remembered that correctly
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>>152508387
Nope.
I like to think a bunch of soldiers were going ham on shotagote.
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>>152508418
Aren't we all just a bit mad?

NO METTACEST!
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>>152508452
She does it on 4/20 for Alphys
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>>152508452
>implying smoking the marijuana ruins your body
imma need you to look up some statistics my boy
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>>152508387
that's more headcanon stuff, but it's easy enough to believe because, come on, how could ANYONE try to hurt asriel in his regular form

it'd be like stumbling across a sad puppy and immediately killing it with an icepick
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>>152508387

Its pure headcannon, but I dont think a tiny gote would be able to carry someone of the same weight for miles up and down a mountain, especially when in the verge of falling down.
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my nipples are rock hard
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>>152508387

I guess it's not confirmed, no. Plus the fact that it's just one human soul and one monster soul, it might look a lot different actually, good catch
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>>152508202
funny enough, the soulless reasoning only really makes sense for geno. in TP, they'd need to have some emotional connection towards asriel, which as a soulless being they should not be able to give. not even the memories are necessarily from chara at that point, you straight up beckon asriel's soul after the lost souls, it's not impossible that since asriel keeps seeing you as chara, you'd get blasted by his memories of them

but for geno, of course chara taking over makes sense. LV is disconnect and the more you don't give a shit about monsters, the more of a hard counter you are to practically any of them. just like flowey supports geno, so would chara in literally every situation. only difference is that flowey is in a vulnerable form, while chara has a lot of potential power the more they take control.
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How big can Chara's tummy get?
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>>152508701
hawt
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>>152508547
I like the theory that Asgore named called him that one reset and it stuck
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>>152508017
Maybe three pictures, it's more of a meme than a real pairing. I just developed a stupid fondness for it and all the jokes surrounding it.
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>>152507815
Seven of the spider's best silkomancers built a web to keep them all underground.
Monsters would need the power of seven donuts to break free.
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>>152508626
Nuh-uh. Drugs are bad M'kay?
>>152508636
I did. Smoking that stuff causes lung cancer, stunts brain development in younger users permanently, and can cause sterility.
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>>152508764

But on the name selection screen, if you try to choose 'Flowey', he says something like "But I CHOSE that name already"
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>>152508648
>>152508661
Fair enough point.

What if it was some really weird human/Boss Monster hybrid.
Something that was genuinely unsettling and monstrous?
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>>152508835
nah man the kush cures and prevents cancer, id invest in some if i were you
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>>152508938
Okay fine then I guess Asriel just inherited his fathers naming ability
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>>152508017
its my otp
lewds when?
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>>152508791
I like it too.
Sometimes when /utg/ comes up with something it's genuinely entertaining. Often in a way that tumblr couldn't manage.
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>>152508801

donut steels

just like Chara
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>>152509083
No, it causes cancer man.
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>>152508617
You can't tell me (or him) what to do.
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>>152509119
Sorry but Gaster just gets to fuck the skeletons, the Goatdad and Grillby
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>>152508835
anon, you are gonna trigger somebody with that
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>>152509097

pretty much I think

'god of hyperdeath'

'star blazing'
>>
Same anon that's making the comic where utg controls the player. I might be able to finish the comic panels today. I can't update it tomorrow or the day after that though, since i'm going somewhere, so i'll just post a drawing each day.
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>>152509243
IT'S ILLEGAL FOR ROBOTS/GHOSTS TO DATE THEMSELVES!
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>>152509274
what about alphys?
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>yea, I'd fuk myself
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>>152509169
now youre just makin stuff up
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>>152509307
"Hyper Goner"
You aren't gone
You aren't super gone.
You're hyper gone.
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>>152509274
But if that's the case then whose eggs did Alphys lay
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>>152509347
ROBOTS CAN BE CLONED
I mean the soul and ensuing personality can't but the body can
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>>152509428
Stop giving the /pol/ack attention
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>>152509307
Well that and he is still a child
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>>152509428
DUDE
WEED
LMAO
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>>152508387
Headcanon, but a small goat isn't exactly the best form for hiking down mountains with a child's corpse in tow.
>>152508412
Not having emotions is not a lack of character, Flowey is still a character even though he lacks many emotions. Mostly through meta stuff, but this is the same route that Charnarrator takes, meta analysis of the character's actions.

As for why they don't say anything is, at least to me, that they are somewhat blindly follwing Frisk. They do criticize them at points, but they largely just observe and comment from a neutral stance.
>>152508730
That is a possibility, but Charnarrator is from a bias of wanting to characterize Chara. In the end, it will often pick the option that adds character to Chara, which to those not invested in the theory, usually seems off.
What you said was valid, but no more or less valid than Charnarrator. As an anon said earlier, it's headcanons vs headcanons, we are only vindicated by the word of Toby.
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>>152509406
I haven't seen any lewds of them but yeah sure whatever i'm not the keeper of Undertale ships or something
>>152509452
invitrofertalization
do you really think he would stick is goopy dick into Alphys?
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>>152509305
Good! The truth will be sung throughout all of /utg/! Drugs are bad! Pot possession should be a life sentence! Pot provides nothing for society!
>>152509428
No, it's been proven that it has negative effects!
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>>152509469
what if i told you im shitposting
>>152509543
THATS WHAT IM SAYIN
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>>152509608
i can't believe alphys drugged and raped gaster. why did toby create such a terrible character?
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>>152509540

good point
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>>152509662
Are souls a drug?
Is Determination?
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>>152509347
Is there evidence for this statement?
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>>152509461
IT DOESN'T MATTER! CLONE DATING IS ALSO ILLEGAL!
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>>152509784
Don't do Determination, it makes you feel like you're literally melting.
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>>152508938
Wow, i didn't knew. Does that theory about Chara's and Asriel's OCs even have a name?
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>>152509662
at least get on that hookah game my man
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>>152509784
For monsters, determination is one hell of a bad drug. It's like that crocodile skin drug that causes necrosis!
As for souls, nah.
>>152509956
hookah, more like hoopla. It's all shit.
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Hey /utg/.
It`s me, the "let`s say I`m making a fan game anon" again.
I have a couple of questions for you guys.
Instead of this fan game being a 100% sprite and gameplay clone of Undertale plus my own story/sprites/sound/music ( which is a real time saver though and helps being more convincing for the player that it takes place within the original universe ) I want to add a few "improvements".
1. I want to change the standard resolution from 640x480 to 640x360 so the game takes full advantage of the widescreen.
This means however that a lot of the original rooms/backgrounds/sprites must be re-edited to fit the new dimension.
2. Sans and Gaster
Oh dear god how unoriginal this has become in within the fandom but they`re kind of essential to the story but I want to hear from you guys if I should keep Gaster as subtle as Toby did or if I should "reveal" everything about their past?
3. world map
The majority of the game will take place on the surface but there will be a return to the Underground, therefor I wanted to make a "fast-travel" system with a world map selection in the new menu.
4. Clothing
The choice to change the appearance of Frisk, very similar to what they Spooker is doing with Undertale Omake but including changing the cloth colours.

Well that`s what strikes me for the moment but what do you think?
Is there some things I should avoid or keep from the original?
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>>152509784
>>152509893
it's worth it to try at least once
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>>152508764
Nah, Asriel inherited the uncreative-naming thing from his dad.
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>>152509956
Hasn't it been shown that smoking hookah is even more damaging than cigarettes?
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>>152509540
Is Asgore still a child at his heart?
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>>152510048
even this?
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>>152510052
Avoid skelefucking and lewd. Avoid demonizing and dindu itus.

Make Gaster a cool dude.
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>>152509567

>What you said was valid, but no more or less valid than Charnarrator. As an anon said earlier, it's headcanons vs headcanons, we are only vindicated by the word of Toby

Good stuff. I love Chara, and the charrator, but it's all a headcanon. I could be saying 'I love my OC' for what it's worth, since there is really nothing there, and until Toby says otherwise the narration is just spunky rpg text.

When talking straight fact, Chara is just for genocide. But going more expansive, you hit headcanons (the hooks for which are many, so they can be built on), which although they can be nice, are NOT fact, which is where the dindus get it wrong
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>>152510252
hot
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>>152510052
Well for 3 you could have the River Person diversifying his service.
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>>152509793
YES! INCEST IS A CRIME THAT CAN LEAD TO JAIL TIME! LOOK IT UP!
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>>152510038
aye man tell me when you get some nuts and i'll hit you up for a sesh
>>152510220
yeah its actually terrible for you and not even fun or nothin
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>>152510052
Don't reveal anything about Gaster, since basically nothing is confirmed about him.
If he is included at all it should be the same way as in the original game.
Sans should be used the same way he is in the Neutral and Pacifist routes.

If you make a worldmap, it would be cute if it looked somewhat like the one from GhostsnGoblins

Also as anon pointed out, Riverperson still exists

And make sure to include cute bunny ears as clothing
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>>152510052
Question
Other characters besides Sans and Gaster are going be included right?
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>>152509909

I think I got it from that 'Undertale Science' guy on tumblr, and no I don't think it has a name. It was one of the more striking things he said
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>>152509567
yeah, honestly at this point the more annoying thing is that the narrachara is basically treated as gospel and pointing out less consistent things often result in people sperging something fierce. i'm completely fine with keeping it on a general headcanon vs headcanon level.

thanks for entertaining everyone's arguments.
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>>152510454
Is it incest if it's with yourself, though?
If Mettaton does the cloning thing, it's technically advanced masturbation.
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>>152510231
Yes

Also insert some joke about Asvore here
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>>152510545
Are going 'to' be included right

Misspells are annoying as hell
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>>152510252
Post more before he can say anything
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>>152510470
What kind of nuts? I have Peanuts, cashews pecans....walnuts.
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>>152510565
was that before or after he went completely bugfuck insane and wanted to get on a plane with a knife to kill the people who were shittalking him?
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>>152510545
Yes, I will try to include as many as possible.
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>>152510252
fire/tentacle/airplane lesbian threesomes
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>>152510397
i get it
>>152510789
HAHA YES IT IS TIME
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>>152510827
The main 6 at least? Even just a throw away line about them being happy would be appreciated
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>>152510052
Those sound like good ideas. I'm not so sure about Gaster. You should be able to do whatever you want with Gaster seeing as we have no canon for the character other than that they fell into the core and that they made it. It's a tricky situation though since anything you'd "reveal" would be considered wrong by someone BECAUSE we know so little about him and everyone has their own headcanons about the matter.
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>>152510825

before. Yeah I saw that, which is what made me stop reading. Alongside the fact he kept inserting it into every little theory he had. Good while it lasted
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>>152510618
NO. IT IS ADVANCED SELF INCEST! A CRIME!
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>>152510454
Is it incest or masturbation?
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>>152510917
croppping wont help a thumbnail idiot
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>>152509121
The River Person secretly being a huge, spiteful asshole to Gaster and their skeleton children is my favorite dumb /utg/ headcanon.
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>>152510913
fucking when?
>>152511075
it looks fine to me
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>>152510985
INCEST. SELF INCEST.
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>>152510303
>>152510568
I'm just happy we were civil, even if I played devil's advocate a few times.

Have a Chara on me.
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>>152510282
This. Also, get someone to make good music. I wonder if anyone have asked Toby to help with music for a fan game.
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>>152511090
oh i was the first to start posting about riverperson divorcing gaster. im glad it caught on and evolved.
>>
>Like Dio 2.0 Chara
>It's probably one of the least likely interpretations to be confirmed.
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>>152510979
Actually the laws only apply to sibling/parent/extended-family incest. There's nothing in the books about self incest.
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>>152511090
Why havent we named the Riverperson Styx yet?
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Would you have sex with yourself if you were Mettaton?
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>>152511331
It was Gaster divorcing Riverperson not the other way around!
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>>152511426
I'd have sex with myself even if I wasn't
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>>152511347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs
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I don't know why people care about Mettaton and ships with him. The character is a huge unlikeable asshole with almost no redeeming qualities
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>>152511240
There is literally nothing illegal about selfcest.
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>>152511264

being devil's advocate, exploring all the options is the best way to go about it partner. It's civil, leaves you thoughtful and all that.

Thanks partner, have one from me too
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>>152511487
tiny sans
tiny catte
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>>152511525
exactly why I like him
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>>152511487
>clean white teeth

continues to be a 10/10 kitter
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>>152511487
Is this
a new cat?
please don't fuck this one too
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>>152511525
Have you considered that some people like assholes?
>>
oh my god I had no idea the 'canon sans' artist was the same person writing that 194 chapter long story about the reader giving birth to frisk and eventually marrying sans
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>>152510541
> Nothing about him is confirmed
Yeah that`s the case.
>>152510963
My thoughts exactly,
>>152510931
Yes, I have the main 6 planned out.
There will be a side quest for Alphys however since Toriel fired from her position as the royal scientist.
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>>152511351
>>152511603

NO! IT'S ILLEGAL. I AM THE LAW!
>>
I don't know why people care about Alphys and ships with her. The character is a huge unlikeable weeb with almost no redeeming qualities
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>>152511525
t. Alphys
>>
Can't we just ban Mettaton entirely?
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>>152511359
It's even a Font name! Come on i'm a genius!
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I just love it when artists make big group pictures and remember to include *every* character, even the most minor NPC.
There is even the black resort blob that we talked about earlier today.
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>>152511718
That doesn't look official.
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Should I get out of bed
I really don't want to
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>>152511641
i think youre looking for >>152511769
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>>152511676
WHAT
QUE
QUOI
VAD
何だと
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>>152508736
Too fucking big.
Also, I'm gonna go throw up right now.
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>>152511676
it's not the same person, just a friend of theirs

but yes, it seems like a lot of their undertale output is just fanart for that mammoth fic
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>>152511451
it's just a mess in my head. most of it is mindless shitposting.

gaster divorced the riverperson and took the kids then stopped existing, and the kids forgot who their mom and dad are.
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>>152511676

What.

That makes it worse. I thought it was random fanart.
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>>152511718
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2aaubVlhNK4
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>>152511718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdyEu5XTChk
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>>152511525
So is edge Asriel and yet people started to worship him.
Some people just have a terrible judge of character.

For the record, I can see why somebody would like Mettaton, but I find his personality off-putting and prefered him in his box form
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>>152511714
>main six planned out
is it going to make me sad?
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>>152511863
it's actually kind of a shame, their art isn't too bad, but holy shit to be associated with that trainwreck
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>>152511813
this image is really ne- wait a minute
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>>152511813
>Black fire guy
My man.
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>>152511718
so papcest is okay, right?
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>>152511813
>onionsan
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>>152511718
I want a photoshop of Moses carrying the Ten Commandments with that written on it.
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>>152511863
ah okay, still had no idea the artwork was connected to that story though

>>152511849
>>152511910
it's called 'Would That Make You Happy'
https://archiveofourown.org/works/5053684
>>
In a twist of Fate, Nintendo of America has offered Toby the chance to make an Earthbound game. Would you be fine with his next game being NINTENDO EXCLUSIVE?
>>
>>152511149
are you blind or just stupid
>>
>>152511813
>onionsan
what is that
>>
>>152511813
>drawing Punkrock hamster as a horse

baka desu
>>
>>152512185

of course

my wii u would then have purpose
>>
>>152512185
No please.
Let Mother rest.

Literally the only thing I would want is an official localisation of 3 or a playable prototype of Mother64
>>
>>152512185
If it was earthbound I would be suprised if it was on anything else
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>>152511487
oh!!! that cat again!! it's so beautiful I love it so much I'm so envious
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>>152512174

I knew about the fic and even read it up to right as they started to confront edge goat after a quick smut chapter.

Its worse if she is doing the fan art herself
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>>152511813
Yea, i like big posters too, but sometimes there is simply not enough details about secondary NPCs and it's kind of hard to draw them good because there is no examples and such.
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>>152511272
Now that`s not a bad idea.
I`d wait until I have something presentable before I ask him though.
>>152511975
Depends on your actions but Asgore was actually the tricky one.
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>>152512185
yeh
I only play games on the computer and 3ds/ds anyway
>>
>>152512234
He's probably on mobile, I get the same thing. Stop being so aggressive though senpai.
>>
>>152511964
Tbh most botfags like both forms equally, it's still the same character. I liked him personally for his character rather than just EX's looks.

I'd fuck both forms anyway.
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>>152511964
Well, you can say that Asriel dindu, atleast in the last timeline where Frisk fell down.
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>>152512449
>but Asgore was the tricky one
*Worrying intensifies*
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>>152512404
I hate this anon
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Mmm
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>>152512786
sorry
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>>152512798
MM MMM YUMMY
>>
>>152512798
Most definitely Sexual Predator Guy
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>>152511487
I wish i had a cat. Atleast this way i could have someone to pet or even hug.
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>>152512632
Only actual retards don't count Asriel's murder sprees because he reset
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>people saying that people wouldn't dare hurt Asriel on the surface
>trusting this abomination in any form
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>>152512941
I'd hug you
I also like being pet~
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>>152511815
IT IS OFFICIAL!
>>152511918
I AM THE LAW!
>>152512146
DO IT!
>>152512106
NO IT SAYS INCEST AND SELF INCEST IS ILLEGAL!
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>>152513103
fuck off
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Since Monster's bodies are made mostly of magic couldn't you use them as batteries to charge stuff like magic canons and magic lasers?

Burning their lives to fuel weaponry?
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>>152513103
shut the fuck up
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>>152512786
i like them
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>>152513182
I remember requesting that Temmie! That was a couple of days ago! It's a nice temmie.
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>>152513190
No
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>>152512632
>ASRIELFAGS, EVERYONE
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>>152513190
how do you think alphys was powering her lab
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>>152513190
fuck off lysandre
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>>152513190

It would be a one time use due to how weak their souls are.
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>>152513190
Free the monsters!
They are untapped energy!
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>>152513310
Fantastic temmie yes
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>>152513190
Human souls are more powerful
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>>152513190
>batteries
I don't think so, otherwise Mettaton would've been able to power his EX form just fine
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>>152513190
Probably man. Hey...Aren't you trapped in a giant pile of rubble?
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>>152512798
eeeeeeeee
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>>152513190
wouldn't it be better to use human souls instead since they last longer and are more durable
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>>152512995
Fantasizing about murder doesn't make you a murderer. Actually murdering does
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>>152513467
So we just build a really big battery and stuff all in.

>>152513549
>>152513601
Yes, but human bodies you have to filter the magic out from the water.

Monster's ARE mostly magic so it means it should easier to extract the magic
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>>152512995
What's wrong? In the end he regret all the shit he did when he was soulless and still, because he reset everyone he might have killed are alive.
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>>152513710
Yes but there's far less magic.
Meanwhile if we made a DT extractor or SOUL containers humans would be a better source, just grab half a dozen hobos.
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>>152513710
FUCK OFF LYSANDRE
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>>152513697
But he did actually murder people you dumbass and don't try and argue with me about this because your wrong
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>>152513868
Murdering people is a crime.
Murdering monsters is pest control.

You're acting like Monsters are sapient creatures with value and not just random clumps of magic dust that act randomly in manners that appear human
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>>152513710
The difference is that DT is fucking bullshit and human SOULS produce infinite amounts of it, though somehow some human SOULS have more than others.
So basically, a DT extractor and one man is infinite energy for 100 years.
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>>152514092
>don't try and argue with me about this because your wrong
Proof?

Who did he murder?
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I really like this bird.
It's the little things.
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>>152514158
TOBY YOU FUCK
GASTER GAME WHEN
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Birds are cute
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>>152514176
Flowey said he helped everybody and he murdered everybody

Also that time when he erased the timeline. You know, just after stealing everyone's souls in the Underground
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>>152514257
fast boy
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>>152513847
I'm not saying you shouldn't forgive him but don't pretend he didn't kill people or that he did nothing wrong
Just makes you look like a jackass
>>152514176
Literally as bad as Chara diddus
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>>152514148
It's a crime if you get caught Chara.
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>>152514176
ASRIELFAGS DIDN'T EVEN PLAY THE FUCKING GAME
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>>152512441
how bad was it? specifically, how obnoxious is the oc?
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>>152514257
> very fast bird running at incredible hihg speed
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and we were doing so well with the character discussion
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So which characterfags have actually played the game
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>>152514348
>>152514386
>>152514424
How did he murder everyone if they're all alive? The only murder that ever occurs is the player killing monsters.
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>>152514504
We have a report button for a reason. USE IT.
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>>152514574
he fucking reset the timeline you dipshit
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>>152513190

>Genocide mode of Pokemon XY involves telling Lysandre to DO IT FAGGOT
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>>152514574
Stop false flagging as Asrielfag, you fuck.
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asriel did wrong but that's ok because no one in undertale is blameless except papyrus

and asriel is my precious babbu
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>>152514504
I'll do ur mum
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Even if Asriel didn't murder anyone in the final timeline he still reduced everyone into nothing more then his playthings and ripped away their memories and personal experiences over and over for no other reason then he was bored

He's kind of a dick
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>>152514481
I want to run alongside that bird on a green grassy plain while cool anime music plays.
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>>152514574
>How did he murder everyone if they're all alive

Alright you baka

I'm gonna make it simple for you.

George A exists in timeline A with Jane A
George A murders Jane A and then jumps to timeline B
George A now exists in timeline B along with Jane B. George A does not murder Jane B.

Now the question is : Did George A murder anyone?
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>>152514545
gasterfags

that's it
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>>152514620
If he reset the timeline then he never killed anyone.
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>>152514574

how did the player kill all the monsters if they're all alive in the next reset
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>>152514813
What, that can't be right
I played the game and I'm a floweyfag
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>>152514545
I'm a botfag and I played it.
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>>152514806
oh! i know this one! jane A!
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>>152514684
This guy knows what's up.

>>152514767
Even if that was Asriel, at the time he could feel no emotion. When that became possible for him again, he felt incredible shame and regret, so why can he not be forgiven for that?
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>>152514806
Does timeline A still exist?

Resets are not jumps to other timelines, they are resets. So your analogy is instead

Goerge A exists in timeline A with Jane A
Goerge A murders Jane A and then resets timeline A
George A now exists in timeline A along with Jane A. George A does not murder Jane A

If Jane A still exists then he didn't really kill her.
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>>152514545
The only ones that haven't are Sansfags
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>>152514545
Dadfags did

Or at least I did both TP and most of genocide ( reset after Sans cause lol fuck you Chara)
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>>152514684
What if it was Paps who killed and shattered Gaster across dimentions.
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when a full reset happens do the characters travel back in time or is it a split into a new timeline that leaves the old one abandoned

I'm dumb and trying to make sense of where chara stealing your soul would fit in
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>>152515101
Then why does Sans talk about timelines?
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>>152515101
That is incorrect.

A Reset does not delete the fact that something occured. It simply wipes the memory of the event occurring or overwrites the vents that occured.

The Jane A who was murdered and the Jane A who exists in the timeline are not the same person because the Jane A who was murdered is defined by the fact that George A murdered her. It is integral to the existence of that Jane A.


Full Timeline resets are even MORE horrible than timeline jumping because you're basically murdering an entire Timeline.
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>>152514545
Game? I thought it was an anime.
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>>152515062
Never said you shouldn't forgive him
>>152515101
He took away their memories and personal experinces on random whims. That's really fucked up no matter how you justify it
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>>152515101
This is literally that "if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it" thing.
The timeline still happened, even if it was reset. The monsters get deja vu over past timelines.
Plus at the very least, Flowey remembers every single one. He knows what he did.
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>>152515259
It's just like a regular reset but nobody remembers it.
Considering Frisk is the one resetting maybe Chara puts some spell or something on your soul.
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>>152515259
I think it's new timeline since there is no dejavus and even Flowey can't remember anything, because he wasn't there in the old timeline.
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>>152515224
that's interesting, what if gaster did something to papyrus to drive him to murder, and then after papyrus finally snaps and pushes gaster into the core, gaster is erased and papyrus doesn't remember any of it

this is a skelefag fanfiction isnt it

it sounds like it
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>>152515101
so if frisk kills everyone but resets they never killed anyone?
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>>152515648
It's not that Papyrus doesn't remember it. He never did it since the very fact that Gaster existed is erased
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>>152515535
> Considering Frisk is the one resetting
Unless it's post genocide. You sell Frisk's soul and then Chara do a true reset, but because they are doing it, they remember that you sold the soul and shit.
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>>152514684
Well Papyrus will beat Frisk until near death and throw them in his homemade jail so he could transfer Frisk to Asgore for Frisk execution.
No one is without sin.
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>>152515661
It's iffy because Frisk isn't a real character and it's debatable how in control they are vs the player. To Asriel it's not a video game though
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>>152515224
>Papyrus throws an autistic fit when his busy scientist father doesn't drop everything to cook him some Spaghettio's, Gaster falls into the core in the process
>Alphys becomes the royal scientist and accidentally creates Flowey
>Flowey tortures everyone repeatedly over hundreds of resets

everything was Papyrus's fault
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>>152514456

It only gets obnoxious when Sans starts fucking her and she starts sending Frisk to monster school, about chapter 35 or so.
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>>152515814
so Papyrus could murder someone and absolve himself of the murder at the same time because he wiped the victim from existence?

>>152515880
I don't think Papyrus understands the ramifications of sending Frisk to Asgore
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>>152515101
theorizing aside, it's a big theme of undertale that you can't escape from consequences and the "reset" is at best a quick band-aid that only means anything if you try to do better with the opportunities you're given

if you think you can duck out of killing toriel by resetting the game calls you out on it, if you try to reset the genocide route you get the stinger, etc, etc

and the biggest example of that is flowey/asriel himself, who felt like his powers freed him from consequences but still went hopelessly insane from abusing his power - there were still consequences to his actions, they just all came down on him instead
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>>152515332
There's an infinite number of possible ways things can occur. He saw that they were all heading towards some great event that ended them all.

>>152515478
The original Jane A and the 'new' Jane A are the same exact thing, except George A doesn't kill 'new' Jane A. You're right that they're distinct, but the only functional difference is that George A remembers killing Jane A. If you're in a dream and kill someone, then wake up and they aren't actually dead, did you really kill anyone at all?

If all that's left is a memory you only have, and it doesn't actually change anything that you have that memory, then have you affected anything other than yourself?

>>152515516
>>152515524
That's the power of God though. He had no emotion or empathy to regulate him in that regard.

>>152515661
Depends. Is Frisk an avatar of the player or an actual agent in the game? If Frisk is an avatar of the player, who exists outside of the game universe, then yes Frisk is a murderer if you murder. If Frisk is themselves a character and separate from you, then no, they aren't a murderer.
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>tfw when I want to draw but the only motivation I get is when we get collage challenges
Give me a request and I may try to do it. Don't expect me to finish it at all, though.
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>>152516135
If Sans saw the timelines then don't they now exist in someway? So even if you reset they still exist because they can be observed
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>>152516258
same desu
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>>152516135
>a memory you only have
The other characters have dejavus of meeting Frisk.
Resetting carries more over than just the resetting person.
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>>152516130
I'm arguing agency here. Yes Flowey killed and knows he killed, but in terms of chronological events he never killed anyone and has nothing to be blamed for. I'm arguing that blaming Flowey for his murders would be the same as blaming you for murdering someone if you imagined murdering them. It's like blaming someone because they might have killed someone in some possible parallel timeline.

Flowey does get majorly affected, but according to time he's done literally nothing wrong.
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>>152516258
>>tfw when
Oops.
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>>152516258
Your favorite drinking milkshake
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If a person is the sum of their experiences then Asriel and the player murders everyone over and over every time they reset or reload


Good job
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>>152516260
maybe they're potentialities rather than existing timelines
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>>152516370
True resets do not carry over anything. Not even Flowey remembers you, there are no acts of deja vu, etc.
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>>152516428
THE CONCEPT OF TIMELINES OVERRIDES CHRONOLOGICAL EVENTS
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>>152516428
time doesn't judge anyone in the first place, that's a skeleton's job

in the end asriel's own opinion of his actions is the only one that matters
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REMINDER:
YOUR LV RESETS ON A RESET
EVEN IF YOU COMMIT FULL GENOCIDE AND SELL YOUR SOUL, YOU'RE BACK TO LV 1 AFTER A RESET AND SANS WILL NOT JUDGE YOU FOR THE PREVIOUS KILLINGS
YOU DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>152516440
Welcome to Godhood. Any God type character is a piece of shit if you argue that perspective.

>>152516260
Depends on what he means by timelines really. If he's talking about ways things could have gone then there's an infinite number of timelines. Some where Frisk dies after falling, some where Flowey kills everyone, some where Flowey becomes the savior of the underground, some where Flowey gets away with stealing the souls and becoming a God, some where Toriel and Asgore never split because Asriel and Chara never die, etc etc etc.

Many worlds theory basically. With that in mind, he could see that all of those timelines could be heading towards some great erasure, which he recognizes as the player.
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>>152516579
Do True Resets make murder okay?
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>>152516440
we dont know if resetting destroys the old universe, or simply "jumps" you to a new one
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>>152516697
Because he can't remember them and for all he knows it's the first time you've been there
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>>152516258
Draw a fancy undertale logo.
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This just reminds me of CourierNew's last fic where Chara tries to argue that Asriel dindu nuffin and it was all their fault instead, and Asriel loses his shit because he's sick of everyone treating him like a fluffy saint after getting his body back.
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>>152516438
That's a nice idea. It's comfy enough to maybe motivate me while simple enough for it to be doable.
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>>152516851
ok
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>>152516783
Except, you know, God characters who don't just murder everyone.
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>>152516798
I don't think so. Even if the person is restored and the event didn't actually 'happen', the murderer still unarguably experienced the murder and has been emotionally changed from the experience.

You carry it with you, if nothing else.
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>>152516851
I did like that inversion. I think it was a good sendaway for him unless he comes back again, for a third time.
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>>152516815
Well, if you kill Paps and reset, Sans will say something about not fighting Paps.
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>a good, interesting thread on a sunday

what the heck
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>>152517067
Gotta compensate for yesterday shitfest.
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>>152517067
My god.

What if we ARE in a timeloop? What if we really are heading back towards the beginning?

Will we experience a True Reset?
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>>152517067
This is what happens when we talk about the game.
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>>152516815
>because he can't remember them
He wouldn't care.
You have to remember, he doesn't give half a shit what you do as long as you reset afterwards. One of his major judgement lines is basically just "If you could go back and undo what you did, why don't you, retard?"

Not to mention he mostly judges purely by LV anyways, which resets upon RESETting.
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>>152516851
CourierNew is so good, doesn't Asriel have a part in the Asgore fic where Asgore says the same thing and Asriel goes into detail about all the ways he tortured Asgore to try and get the souls to prove it?

That part legit gave me chills
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>>152517231
we can only hope
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>>152517034
it is funny how he keeps awkwardly coming back to the fandom over and over again

guy just can't move on
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>>152517231
Some scientists theorize that time isn't a plane that goes from beginning to end, but instead a kind of geometric figure that never ends, but instead loops on itself

Wish I could explain it better. Imagine a Klien Bottle. Some argue that's what time is like
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>>152514257
Do these birds count?
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>>152492718
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>>152517385
What kind of bird abomination has no beak or eyes.
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are we in a timeloop

guys i'm scared
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>>152517663
The Feasent-MSPG bird is native to utg. It has no eyes.
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>>152517724
I've got you, babe
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>>152516798
in this case, yes because you get to learn more things about your favorite characters
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>>152517724
RESET after RESET
We'll get our perfect ending...
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>>152517724
STOP REPOSTING THIS
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>>152517848
THEN PUT YOUR LITTLE HAND IN MINE
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>>152517724
Maybe
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>>152492718
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>>152492718
Canon Asgore.
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>>152517989
WARM
AND
FUZZY
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>>152492718
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I can't decide whether Sans is the best or worst brother in the world
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>>152518106
Still just makes me want to play Neverwinter
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>>152518243
fish-ghost babies when
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>>152518334
he's somewhere in between. around the good area.
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>>152517385
>msp still comes here
wow. that's a pretty long time to spend drawing an imaginary version of yourself fucking an imaginary goat
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>>152518334
did YOUR brother read you bedtime stories despite the crushing certanty that nothing he's done or ever will do will matter?
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>>152518367
You should if you haven't recently. It's a great game. I think we've talked about it before here.
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If only I could make this canon.
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>>152518334
This whole game is about the grey area, anon.
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>>152518520
it's autism
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>>152518573
Yeah we have and I would but no keyboard at the moment
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>>152518524
No
I was that brother
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>>152518524
my brother would pin me down in bed and belch in my face until he puked

he still does sometimes but for different reasons
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>>152518578
Reply to
>>152517989
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>>152518334
he is far from the worst
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>>152492718
Canon ship
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>>152518661
That is unfortunate! What happened to your old one? Did you say it broke or something, I can't remember.
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We hit post limit way before image limit. Go wild, boys.
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>>152518718
sounds like canon sans and papyrus to me
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>>152518791
okay
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>>152518718
ew. Glad I was always the oldest
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Good thread, guys.
Was really nice to talk with you properly for once and not just exchange memes.

Also look at that image limit.
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>>152518718
what the fuck
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>>152518334
The fact he's still caring so much about his brother is quite impressive considering the circumstances
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Huh.
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>>152518791
WOOOOOOO
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>>152518791
Can someone edit this fish so there isn't a nose?
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>>152518718
wew anon you got fucked when it comes to siblings
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>>152518334
I saw a post awhile back that details all of the cool little things Sans does for Papyrus, I wish I saved it.
Was there a reason Sans lets Papyrus fight Frisk?
You'd think his brother would have higher priority than his promise with Toriel.
It feels out of character for him.
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>>152518789
I never said but yeah it broke in a accident involving my dog
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>>152518951
>how do i draw skeletons making out. do they even have tongues. this is so hard
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>>152518791
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>>152518951
>the second response is about skeleton porn
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>>152518718

I bet his burps smell good.
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>>152518951
good times.
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>>152519025
>dog
Toby claims another keyboard
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>>152518791
Sure.
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>>152518997
My only regrets are not giving it a tail and not making the hair longer. That, and the fact that it looks like shit.
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>>152519007
I wish the anon who did that was still around
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>>152518791
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>Missed quality posting because I was playing Battlefield
Can you fucks do this when I'm NOT doing something else and not looking at the thread?
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>>152519025
Shoot, that is unfortunate. I hope you can find a proper replacement, so you can play Neverwinter Nights!
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>>152519253
It's bretty gud tempal.
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>>152518578
Use your head.
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>>152519349
We could make all posting quality posting one day, anon...
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>>152518780
Oh yes
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>>152519341
Do we really want to do this, anon?
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>>152492718
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>>152519349
>quality posting
>on utg
nice FREAKING MEME DUDE WE'RE ALL SHIT
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>>152519457
Bullshit

Firemagic isnt even that hot
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>>152519253
I still really like it. Thank you for drawing it.
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>>152519359
I'll get a new one next pay check, though I'm probably going to continue my latest Baldurs Gate rub instead
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>>152519007
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>>152519585
hot enough to cook things on the stove.
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>>152519349
it was pretty nice nice even if nothing new was brought to the table
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NEW THREAD FUCKING WHERE

HURRY UP, WE'RE SINKING
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Move when ready
>>152519702
>>152519702
>>152519702
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>>152519508
Do what?
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>>152519457
I have a really lewd Mettaby saved but this is blue board
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What did Chara get herself into this time?
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What made this a good thread?
It's certainly been better than usual but nothing to write home about.
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>>152519579
Well, this thread was pretty fucking good anyway.
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>>152518951
>THANKFULLY, this game doesn't have big time youtubers like pewpew or whatever fuck his name playing this game like he did with FnaF. It also helps that it didn't attract as many tumblrite attentionwhores like it did with FnaF general, especially when they never play the fucking game.

heh
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>>152519772
Who knows, anon, who knows
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>>152519851
Post it on /y/ baby
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>>152519908
discussing actual things in the game, some headcanon bits without too much 'i'm right and you are wrong', bait was pretty low
no 'i wanna fuck the goat because he's cute' or anything like that. no waifufagging.
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>>152519908
No lewd, no shitposting, actual discussions about the game.
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>>152519908
polite discussion revolving around the game
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>>152519860
Sex, that's what.
>>152520068
Phew, I thought you were gonna say something lewd.
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Out with a bot.
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>>152519696
yet doesnt burn if you stick your hand into the fireplace

It's only hot when you want it to be
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>>152520489
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>>152520489
out with my favorite
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dead?
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>>152521815
new thread

>>152519761
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>>152521815
naw, ditched
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HAHA LAST FOR PAPYRUS AND SANS THE MOST EXCELLENT BROTHERS IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY EAT IT MARIO BROS
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naw dude you do it like this

papyrus rules
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oh i see i see

papyrus is a cool dude
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