/twg/ - Total War General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battles#o4hqxnhjq258s

Warhammer fantasy literature because I forgot to add it to the OP but this is fine I guess.

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3nd for best husbandu

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

GIVE US DLC INFO


SQUIGS WHEN

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>next historical total war not announced yet

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>>152433464
epic

crack yet?

>>152433857
It will probably be another fantasy one


I wouldn't be surprised if they went sci-fi either.

COME

>>152434104

SHIT

tomb kangz when

>>152433857
I'm pretty sure it was, just not officially
Be patient man >implying you're not just falseflagging so you can start a shitstorm

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>tfw TWW is literally the game of your dreams

>>152434292
>false flagging to start a shitstorm
W-what
>pretty sure it was, just jot officially
Also what?

>>152434196
EMBRACE

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>>152434249
Now

>>152434249
never

>>152434412
>W-what
My bad I thought you were trying to get the rabid 'fuck off histfags le boring history' people out.
>also what
iirc the dev team announced they are working on it, just no details beyond 'needing new research'.

>>152434412

Attila's team is doing very early work on the next historical game. Concept, research, refined game mechanics, stuff like that.

Quick, post factions for a TW: Allstars game.
Rome
Greenskins
Aztecs
Pontus
France
Otomo
Mongols
Marathi

>>152435334
Obama

>>152435334
perfidious albion

>>152434645
>>152434849
Do we have an inkling of an idea of what the next one will be?

>>152435942
Med 3.

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>>152435334
M O O R S

>>152435942
It's not going to be Medieval 3, that's for certain.

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>>152436140
Napoleon maybe?

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> [Legendary Lord] Skarbrand the Exiled One
> [Legendary Lord] U'zhul Skulltaker
> [Legendary Lord] Valkia the Bloody
> [lord] Bloodthirster
> [lord] Daemon Prince of Khorne
> [Special Hero] Karanak
> [hero] Berserker
> [hero] Champion of Khorne
> [hero] Herald of Khorne
> Bloodletters (3rd gen models)
> Bloodletters (Great Weapons) (2nd gen models)
> [Khornate variant] Chaos Warriors
> [Khornate variant] Chaos Warriors (Halberds)
> [Khornate variant] Chaos Warriors (Great Weapons)
> [Khornate variant] Chaos Chosen
> [Khornate variant] Chaos Chosen (Halberds)
> [Khornate variant] Chaos Chosen (Great Weapons)
> [Khornate variant] Chaos Spawn
> [Khornate variant] Forsaken
> Khornigors
> Khornigors (Great Weapons)
> Skullreapers
> Wrathmongers
> Flesh Hounds
> [Khornate variant] Furies
> Slaughterbrute
> Bloodcrushers
> Skull Cannon
> Skullcrushers

>>152436028
>>152436140

so which one is it?

I am hoping for a Victoria or empire type game since CA has finally gotten good at naval and gun mechanics.

and the tradition system would work well for it.

>>152436251
Medieval 3 is a meme answer.

>>152435942
It may be Pike and Shot judging from some shit /twg/ uncovered a few months ago
It might also be TW:China since it's admittedly actually fuckhuge with plenty of diversity between factions inb4 pasta, or something like TW: Khan of Khans so they can rip off Attila. Either way it's supposed to require new research so it's almost certainly not a repeat title.

it will be empire II

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> [Legendary Lord] Glottkin
> [Legendary Lord] Ku'gath the Plaguefather
> [Legendary Lord] Tamurkhan the Maggotlord
> [lord] Daemon Prince of Nurgle
> [lord] Great Unclean One
> [hero] Champion of Nurgle
> [hero] Herald of Nurgle
> [Nurgle variant] Chaos Chosen
> [Nurgle variant] Chaos Chosen (Halberds)
> [Nurgle variant] Chaos Chosen (Great Weapons)
> [Nurgle variant] Chaos Warriors
> [Nurgle variant] Chaos Warriors (Halberds)
> [Nurgle variant] Chaos Warriors (Great Weapons)
> [Nurgle variant] Chaos Spawn
> [Nurgle variant] Forsaken
> [Nurgle variant] Furies
> Nurglings
> Pestigors
> Pestigors (Great Weapons)
> Plaguebearers
> Plague Zombies
> Putrid Blightkings
> Beasts of Nurgle
> Bile Trolls
> Plague Toads
> Plague Chariots
> Plague Drones
> Pox Riders
> Rot Knights

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=740501075

is this lore friendly or is it Radious tier? same guy as Chaos Divided

>>152436330
>China
Please god no
China is so fucking uninteresting I would literally shit if they tried that

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> [Legendary Lord] Galrauch the Great Drake
> [Legendary Lord] Kairos Fateweaver
> [Legendary Lord] Sathorael the Everwatcher (custom battles only)
> [Legendary Lord] Vilitch the Curseling
> [lord][Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Sorcerer Lord
> [lord] Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
> [lord] Lord of Change
> [Special Hero] The Changeling
> [hero] Champion of Tzeentch
> [hero][Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Sorcerer
> [hero] Exalted Flamer
> [hero] Herald of Tzeentch
> [Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Chosen
> [Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Chosen (Halberds)
> [Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Chosen (Great Weapons)
> [Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Warriors
> [Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Warriors (Halberds)
> [Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Warriors (Great Weapons)
> [Tzeentchian variant] Chaos Spawn
> [Tzeentchian variant] Forsaken
> [Tzeentchian variant] Furies
> Tzaangors
> Tzaangors (Shields)
> Tzaangors (Great Weapons)
> Blue Horrors
> Flamers
> Mutalith Vortex Beast
> Pink Horrors
> Screamers
> Burning Chariot

>>152436549
Ok.

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> [Legendary Lord] Masque of Slaanesh
> [Legendary Lord] Morathi
> [Legendary Lord] N'kari
> [Legendary Lord] Sigvald the Magnificent (custom battles only)
> [lord] Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
> [lord] Druchii Anointed
> [lord][Slaaneshi variant] High Sorceress
> [lord] Keeper of Secrets
> [hero] Champion of Slaanesh
> [hero] Herald of Slaanesh
> [hero][Slaaneshi variant] Sorceress
> [Slaaneshi variant] Bleakswords
> [Slaaneshi variant] Chaos Warriors
> [Slaaneshi variant] Chaos Warriors (Halberds)
> [Slaaneshi variant] Chaos Warriors (Great Weapons)
> [Slaaneshi variant] Chaos Spawn
> [Slaaneshi variant] Darkshards
> [Slaaneshi variant] Dreadspears
> [Slaaneshi variant] Forsaken
> [Slaaneshi variant] Furies
> Daemonettes
> Devoted of Slaanesh
> Slaangors
> Slaangors (Great Weapons)
> Fiends
> Exalted Seeker Chariot
> Hellflayer
> Hellstriders
> Seekers
> Seeker Chariots

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I can't be doing it right in Fall of the Samurai. I've never gotten my shit kicked as hard as I am right now in a Total War game.

>start out as Shogun loyal faction
>within a few turns all of my surrounding allies are fucking gone
>everyone around me declares war on me
>constantly sieged and bombarded
>weakened one of the factions enough that i could go attack their city and take it but can't leave the castle because i get sieged too much to build an army that could defend against the armies attacking from the other side
>AI keeps sending shitty little tiny armies to siege my city that i wreck but they interrupt me recruiting or doing anything
>can't build anything because i need to spend all of my money on agent actions and rebuilding my army
>mfw

SEND HELP

>>152436782

so play as another faction?

>>152436782
Move an army to forest to make them ambush. Meet them in the field, don't let them attack your castles. If you can't do that, well, you'll have to restart.

>>152436743

>Morathi goes full retard Slaanesh mode in End Times

still mad tbqh

>>152437665

> <Character> goes full retard mode in the End Times

Who does this not apply to?

>>152436782
>AI keeps sending shitty little tiny armies
I don't miss this. Also start as a faction in the far north or on the smaller islands if you want things to go easier.

>>152437748

Mannfred Von Carstein, leader of the Carsteins and rightful rule of Stirland.

>>152437724
Senor?

>>152437724

This action does not have my consent!

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>>152437724
So Karl was secretly sigmarine all along?

>>152437796
Oh, I just realized why CA tied the armies to generals.

Still dumb.

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>>152437724

CONVOCAR A LOS CONDES ELECTORES

>>152437665
When does she NOT go full retard?
The only thing I hate about Malekith is that he is too weak to kill her, I would have gutted that bitch so fast during the Sundering.

>>152437838
>backstabs Nagash because his autism can't contain itself
GG Manny, that sure worked out nice.

>>152437724
YO SOY PRÍNCIPE

>>152438075
Esta acción no tiene mi consentimiento !

so will CA announce anything at PAX? or do they tend to avoid that event?

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>recruit a 2nd gorebull into my army becuese I like his hat.
>Goblin big faggot wounds him becuese the shitter cant hurt any other of my high leveled heros or lord
>Bray Shaman gets a critical success assassination on him next turn
>tfw

>>152436251
Victorian Total war would be great, they've already proven they can make it work with Fall of the Samurai.

The only thing is it would necessitate a whole world map, or at least most of it.

>>152440141
I would prefer an Empire 2 that stretched further into the Victorian era.

>just spent 2 hours making changings to AoC instead of vanilla Attila

kill me

>>152440192
I want an empire 2 with 40 unit armies. I really like the setting for empire but the whole game just feels heavy and clunky in every single aspect compared to Napoleon but that game doesn't have the scale.

>>152440507
I want more than one city for France.

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EMPIRE 2 FUCKING WHEN?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXknALrHSfI

it had the best map mechanics desu

>>152440581
>for 10 hours
so the average loading time for empire

>>152440663
kek

http://www.strawpoll.me/11043440
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>>152440663
Empire is unironically one of my favourite tw games, even with all its bugs, and shitty AI and loading times

I played it for quite a bit, and would have played it even more if imperial splendor team didn't ruin their mod by adding absolutely terrible lightning, seriously fuck those guys

>>152440192
>Victorian era
Think about it Warhammer has flying units and tanks. I would kill for the next historical game to be like Victorian era start and for empire style tech research so you eventually get WW1 technology and weapons. Campaign map with the scale of Empire but the amount of settlement density of something like Attila.

>>152440948
WW1 doesn't work with TW. I want Empire 2 that stretches into early Victorian era.

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>>152441152
This, I just want some polish winged hussars in a not shitty tw

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The most ideologically pure and comfy elves are coming soon, /twg/

>>152441657
Rescuing fair maidens before Bretonnians get their dicks out of their horses.

okay so if I send normal shock cavalry like reiksguard to run through enemy line they send them flying like balls
but if I send in razorgor chariots with higher charge bonus nothing as comical happens
do they even work or are chariots just bad at breaking the line?

>>152441152
>WW1 doesn't work with TW
I don't agree with this, but I do think CA would need to push the envelope for bigger armies and maps. But I would like to see stuff like creating trench lines by having a certain buildings built in settlements to connect them (fall of the samurai railroad) or some kind of army stance that blocks off a large area and forces the attacker to fight you on a special trench map.

>>152441817
it should work

are the conditions the same? chariots going up a hill or into a heavier unit?

chariots tend to go through a line, allowing them to come back around for another shot

>>152441817
Chariots are just awkward and finicky like that. They can get nice impacts sometimes though.

>>152442024
>I don't agree with this

Well, good for you, but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't work for WW1.

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Roll

>>152441152
i remember fags saying an 18th century game would never work back before empire came out

>>152442297
reroll lol not paying that much for a faction.

>>152442326
And lo and behold, they were right.

>>152442186
Yeah we had an expansion set in 1864 but somehow a main title couldn't pull off WW1 because (you) think the battles wouldn't work.

>>152442326

[sarcasm] And look how well it works now! [/sarcasm]

>>152442024
>>152442326
CoH already exists. This just wouldn't really work in any capacity other than trench warfare and still be even remotely similar to TW.

>>152442594
>>152442661
Napoleon works even better and takes place 5 years after the ending of empire.

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>>152442683
>CoH
Because WW2 was fought just like WW1! And we totally didn't have battles with cities in Napoleon and buildings units could enter which is totally just a CoH type thing and could never work in total war right?

What's the worst Total War game and why is it ___________?

>>152442928
Bad AI

>>152442798
>works even better than Empire

[sarcasm] Really? Wow! [/sarcasm]

TBQH, tho, Empire does has 1 good point: scale.

>>152443073
FoTS works EVEN BETTER than both games and takes place 52 years after napoopan

Anyone here looking forward to Vae Victis?

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Why do I love Mannfred so much?
It's pretty simple when I think about it.
Mannfred isn't just the best character in the Warhammer world, he might just be the greatest character of all time.
Just imaging him riding through the swamps of Sylvania, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him.
As he rides through the World's Edge Mountains, the Lahmians swoon at his very scent.
They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Marienburg under the the name of "Carstein Orgasm."
The very nature of Mannfred is mystery.
Could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes?
The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit.
However, Mannfred is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers.
Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Mannfred is not one that is easily penetrated.
Mannfred is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world.
Mannfred is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty.
Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes.
His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Mannfred. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt.
Mannfred is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the Warhammer world together.
Without Mannfred, the entire Warhammer world, the entire Games Workshop as we know it crumbles.
The Reik would stop flowing without Mannfred, Athel Loren would become a desolate crater, and Norsca would melt without his frosty gaze.
These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Mannfred so much.

>>152442834
WW1 didn't see 160 men clustered together in formation when they charged the enemy. You didn't have 160 men pile into a building that wasn't significantly large. There wasn't a whole lot of urban warfare in WW1 to my knowledge.

Point is, once you don't have organized formations being utilized, it isn't really TW anymore imo.

>>152442928

it's between empire and rome 2 for me

the reason is because both experimented with very different shit but failed and were very unpolished or took multiple months before they were not broken piles of shit.

>>152443795
The problem with trench warfare is that trench warfare acts as a continuous battle. That's the reason why 'fronts' became a thing, the entire border of your countries are basically battlelines and "flanking" your enemy consists of punching a hole and blitzing through it.

>>152443891
I understand that, I'm just having trouble articulating exactly why it just doesn't really work in TW. I would be down for a campaign map game set in WW1, but you are going to have to get very creative with the battles and can't really do it like you can in TW.

>>152444002
As far as I am concerned, Total War battles simply stop working the moment formations stopped being a thing. Hell even the current system makes shit like guerilla wars hard - you either have 160 brigands in one place or you have none at all and they have to turn as a group before firing this is the one fucking thing that Waarscape has no fucking excuse for, if the longbows are in position then fucking fire who cares if two or three people are lagging behind

What Total War game has your favorite tech tree? (race in Warhammer)

I'd have to say Rome 2. While the first 3 are no brainers (growth, far right tree), there's a good bit of choice to go for after that. Attila's is probably the worst, as it's quite short and you generally go for whatever unlocks unit upgrades followed by economy.

>>152444178
>Waarscape has no fucking excuse for, if the longbows are in position then fucking fire who cares if two or three people are lagging behind
>if two or three people are lagging behind

>imblying this doesn't happen in earlier titles all the fucking time
its the reason why javelinmen are so shit in medieval, also archery can be "fixed" easily in attila, just give them the firing arcs of skirmisher cav

>>152444248
Did that happen in earlier games, my memory is tinted because I haven't played them in forever
>fixed easily
I don't get it, what does that do? I'm just complaining about the entire unit apparently needing to rotate before firing and thereby getting fucking swamped by swordsmen before they can even let off a volley

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>>152443795
Here's some russians on the eastern front from 1914. It wasn't all trenches especially not in the east.

>>152444358
How does one transition into 'WWI' technology without transitioning into trench warfare? The reason why people didn't trench immediately was literally because they didn't realize right away how disgustingly efficient a machinegun and heavy artillery are at just stopping offensives.

>>152444307
>Did that happen in earlier games
in a slightly different way, the units didn't have to turn, but a few men in the unit would get stuck in an animation and refuse to move, which made skirmishing with them nearly impossible

>entire unit apparently needing to rotate before firing
having a 360 firing arc means they dont ever have to turn

>>152444358
The point is that WW1 was a turning point for military tactics. People realized you couldn't rely on formations and throwing bodies at a problem purely because of airstrikes and long range artillery. Warhammer is a good example, imo. Look at the Empire's mortars and rocket batteries - they destroy anything human like before they know what's hit them. Now imagine those being WW1 age howitzers raining down on you. Your formation isn't going to do shit except get more men killed while making the enemy's job easier.

>>152444515
Yeah but that's cheap as fuck don't you think

>>152444548
Not really airstrikes and rocket artillery, that's WW2 - WW1 was just barbed wire, poison, machinegun spam that just completely gutted any offensive, and heavy artillery.

>>152443891
What if attacking a trench was like setting up a siege where either side can attack and both take attrition but if you sally on either side and don't win then the siege continues. And if you try to abandon the trench you have to fight some kind of retreat battle and get to set up a rear guard during deployment.

>>152444515
>but a few men in the unit would get stuck in an animation and refuse to move
Ah yes
Good old M2

>>152444668
But see that's just not how it worked. In WW1 after the Race to the Sea the battlefronts barely fucking moved until the brits brought in tanks and the Americans arrived and Germany was literally bled dry of an entire generation. You'd lose 99% of your army getting to the other side, imagine literally 400 Attila Towers in front of the gate.

>>152444745
>Attila Towers
Why the fuck are nuclear towers a thing though seriously

can Priestess' in Attila spread religion to foreign lands?

>>152444929
ye just sit them in territory

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>>152444745
Just because it would be new for TW doesn't mean it couldn't work or wouldn't be the same in essence. Especially eastern front where the trenches didn't develop to the same extreme and armies were still able to push. This all would obviously be a huge investment in new mechanics on CAs part so whatever probably would never happen but that's not to say they couldn't do it or that it wouldn't be total war.

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>>152444905
they are not that dangerous, people are just bad at the game, seriously 1 onager can destroy them all, if you dont have any onagers, then use a "scout" type unit, they bring towers down in a few seconds, if you dont have any scouts either, then loose some fire arrows on buildings next to the tower and the fire will spread and burn them down

>>152445025
hmm, thats what im doing but my religion is going down, i have 3 priestess' there. do they not stack? +36 conversion per turn for roman paganism VS +4 per turn Latin Christianity

>>152445168
Oh the religion display is glitched it shows the state religion as 'your religion' for some dumbass reason on hover-over or investigation

>>152445078
Nah I'm complaining that they're hard, just that they're ungodly. Seriously against AI they can bring down something ridiculous like 300 niggas out of 2000 before my own dudes even get the chance to engage.

>>152445287
>Oh the religion display is glitched it shows the state religion as 'your religion' for some dumbass reason on hover-over or investigation

Ahhh shit ok, so that means the 28% religion is THEIR state religion. It just doesn't show mine. Thanks anon

I hope tomb kings never get announced. I can't deal with the incomming /pol/ tier "comedy" memetastic spam

>>152445072
Well sure but you said 'into WWI tech'. I'm just not seeing how it could work, as I said almost everyone died before reaching the other side on the western front. The game usually isn't 'try to charge under what amounts to 20 Germanic Slingers on eternal Precision Shot with three times as much range and die before you get halfway there', it's about 'epic' battles. Dying 200 meters away from the frontline during a bayonet charge where your troops are eternall 'shaken' morale isn't quite what we call 'epic'.

>>152445427
DOOT DOOT SKELLINGTON KANGZ HOL UP DOOT DOOT

tomb kangz when

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>>152445427
>anon is spooked by the mere thought of Skeleton Kings
You probably don't get this reference but whatever

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>>152445427
WE

>>152445429
>where your troops are eternall 'shaken' morale
That's why you don't play as anglos or french

>>152445427
i'll make a skeleton meme just for you

dynamic music in attila is pretty good, will warhamms get it at some point? or does it already have it and I simply failed to notice it?

>>152445617
The French actually had rather good morale for the most part.
>French lose two major wars in their history
>DUDE SURRENDER MONKEYS
I'm not even French but this kind of triggers me.

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It's like they sent this poor bastard and his transport ships to die. Mutiny in 4 turns.

will the tomb kangz be affected by the blood pack since they're skeletons

>>152445694
Why get triggered at the french part, but not the anglo who doesn't even have that bad of a track record lately?

>>152445429
Yeah typing this all out has actually made me reconsider. If we got a Victorian game it should be limited to that. I'd like a WW1 game but it would need to be limited to that and have a tech transition of its own. I think the idea of western front trench warfare could be done in total war but very different from what we're used to with with your armies basically being in permanent siege because neither your or the ai want to lose everything or when you do try and sally it doesn't create a decisive result or if you do win the ai or you just set up more trenches deeper in and you have to push for tech like early tanks and aircraft.

>>152445721
obviously not since skeletons dont bleed

>>152445803
>yfw they still explode into a red mist when hit by artillery

>>152445715
What the fuck are they doing there

>>152445721
Probably, they'll probably have human animations too.

>>152445758
I don't think the Anglos have a reputation of Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys, I actually don't even know why you put it there since a bayonet charge by the brits is still in use even today in their training regime apparently.

>>152445773
I'm not against WWI stuff mind you, I just think that it deserves its own game and engine from the ground up, that's how different it was to wars that came both before and after.

>>152445869
>playing path of exile
>use detonate dead on skellington
>it explodes into meat chunks and blood and sets the screen on fire

>>152445721
They'll get bloody either way, since they'll be fighting things which bleed. I also don't think the vampire count's armies get blood when fighting each other save for some possible exceptions since vampires drink blood and all.

>>152445927
I think I saw a WW1 game based on the Men of War engine. I don't know how that turned out.

>>152445694
>French lose two major recent wars in their history
>Not a bunch of whimpy cowards
That's like saying norwegians are hardcore warriors today because of what they did a 1000 years ago

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>>152445427
:(

>>152446063
They put up a hard fucking fight in WWI and the Franco-Prussian war was pure and simple a difference of doctrine and technology, not morale. WWII was something else entirely but Blitzkrieg actually works when it's pulled off and the French quite literally got flanked.

Why do you people apply skeleton jokes at tomb kings? They're mummies and dried/rotten flesh zombies. not bare skeleton bones

>>152446040
Wasn't it like battle of empires or something?

It's fun.

>>152445773
>>152445927
>WWI TW
I think there is a mod for Napoleon called The Great War which does an OK job but, there's a lot it doesn't do so well. Total War just isn't capable of modeling new tactics developed during WWI. It would be cool as fuck though to watch a creeping barrage from the TW perspective though. Sometimes I play Warhammer in "Steampunk WWI mode" using only gunpowder units.

>>152446161
>Surrendering because you get flanked/your plan doesn't work out as straightforward you wanted
You're digging yourself in a deeper trench

>>152446275
Yeah I've tried out The Great War and I'd say a big problem with that is that a mod team really can't be game devs at the end of the day it's just not the same.

>>152446218
vaguely wrong
The KANGZ(social class) could afford expensive and precious embalming and are more complete relative to a living human being.
The poorer lads(the obscene majority) did not receive this attention and are merely sun-bleached bone at this point.

>>152446302
>surrendering because literally half your nation and most of your industrial capacity is completely fucked
Seems about right?

>>152446218
Have you seen their tabletop army? The leaders and elites may be mummified, but #notall of the peasantry.

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>>152446218
You're fundamentally wrong.

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>want to do a playthrough where I make vassals of all enemies
>subjugate marienburg
>every third turn or so other factions are declaring war on them, especially factions I have NAPs, trade agrreements and military access with

What is the point of creating vassals when the AI just treats them as regular allies? Atleast Paradox made vassals right.

WE'Z

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>>152446470
>cloth at end of javelin
>for sound and visual tracking
>skeleton A nails a fleshbag right in the chest
>skeleton A nudges skeleton B, points at flapping cloth sticking out of the human's torso
>skeleton B steers the horses off a slight rise, chariot does a tiny jump
>skeleton B's attention is drawn by a nearby sound, looks to his left
>skeleton C is rattling loudly and holding up a fist in salute from the other chariot

>>152446816
In paradox games they're basically ironclad allies as well. Unless they're disloyal. There really isn't a functional difference between the two developers in how they enact vassals in regards to war declarations.

>>152446953
based kopinski

>>152447046
Its Daarken though.

>>152447040
Not him but the thing that makes Paradox allies not broken is that they aren't allowed to do most things on their own and can't attack allies of their overlord, iirc.

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40k tw when

>>152447240
luckily never

>>152447240
dumb frogposter

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ramming is so satisfying

imagine doing this with a dwarf or vampire ship

>>152447592
I hate that most ships can't ram in Attila

>>152442297
roll

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>>152447240
>the pepe marine is a night lord

how fitting

>>152447143
>allies
You mean vassals right?
The post mentioned only people attacking his vassal. Which does function the same as in paradox titles. If you're referring to a function where the vassal declares war on others and calls the overlord in, I'm unfamiliar with it. It wasn't mention in the post I'm replying to, and I haven't had a vassal in a total war game for something like five years now.

>>152447657
yeah I was pretty disappointed discovering that, especially since you can't alt-click ranged ships into their ship to fuck em up. Sadly they AE guys can't "fix" this for their mod so there won't be ramming in that, either.

>>152447825
>no ramming
REEEEEE

>>152447773
YOU STOLE THAT FROM ME YOU PRICK

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Abhorash for Vampire Cunt LL!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11037569

>>152448346
Abhorash would have a hard time fitting in how VC are presented currently in TWW. He would also be far too strong

Are ranged units on boats useless or is it just me? They die easy as fuck and if they get flank boarded they die in a heartbeat. Why'd I wanna bring those instead of another ram or artillery?

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Why are minotaurs so much fun? I didnt want to but my army beastmen army has become 50% minotaur

>tfw no minotaur lord
>tfw no Ghorgon
>tfw

>>152448346
The Red Duke with the unique start position of Mousillon would be neat.

>>152448406
He'd be on par with Sigvald as a melee expert LL. Overall pretty dull compared to Vlad and Krell could have some interesting abilities and massive cost reductions on grave guard.

>>152448475
I really like centigors myself. They're like hussars. Super fast, super strong on the charge, mediocre in every other way.

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>>152448319
why dont you prove it?

>>152448654
NOBODY POSTED IT IN /TWG/ UNTIL I DID YESTERDAY YOURE TELLING ME THATS A COINCIDENCE YOU NIGGER

>>152448654
Nothing compares to guardsman desu. Mediocre image. Not very competitive.

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>>152448792
>not the emperor

>>152448654
Commissar for sure.

>>152448868
The god emperors of both settings are garbage. Their only importance is that gifted to them by far, far better men than themselves. Such as your run of the mill guardsman. Or Archaon.

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>>152448792
Yes, everyone needs new pillow made of bones and tincan armor.

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Fucking jungle you can't see anything

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>>152448697
Bitch please, I didn't hang out here yesterday. I did however, hang out in /tg/ when /tg/ was still good and got shit done.

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>>152449076
You have to zoom in to see something. Although it's annoying, it fits the exploration theme pretty well.

>>152448868
When the Emperor is lightyears away and unconscious you'd expect most guardsman to fight for their brothers-in-arms rather than a love of the Emperor.

How do you get rid of fucking banshees messing with your income guys?

>>152449182
The campaign seems to be too easy though, the natives run away really fast and you can kill/capture thousands with a few men. It wouldn't be a problem, but it's too easy to get new units as the Spanish.

>>152449223
witch hunter

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>>152449148
that feel

>In the dark second decade of the third millennium there are only quests

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>>152449254
Forgot pic. I really hope that we will get a new historacal game set between 1500 and 1807

>>152449284
Aren't quests in another board now?

>>152449352
*1500-1700 I mean.

>>152449372
It's only a trial board rather than a proper containment board. More to take up the paper thin quests and CYOAs and stuff. Most of the biggest clots of quests that were on /tg/ are still on /tg/.

>>152449280
Thanks. The only building I did not build in that province...

>>152449454
A shame

>>152435334
milan

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>>152449635

How do you recruit Legios and Cohors as Ostrogoths? I can get comatatensis spears but can't find whatever recruits legios.

>>152450038
You have to conquer a town that already has the roman buildings in it.
It's a really poorly implemented feature imo.

>>152450641
Oh. Well, that's kinda stupid. I'll have to be careful bulldozing Roman shit now. Thanks anon.

>>152442297
Tyrolean
please god dont be Heinrich again[spoiler/}

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

Is there any mod yet that keeps faction colours to provinces but also works with reskins? Or is there an easy way to merge the two?

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>>152449148
I want to go back to those times.

>>152436461
Not Radious-tier for sure

Even if beastmen chosen feels wrong, it's not close to Radious-tier butchering

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>>152447773

>>152449352
>auf deutsch spielen

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=604078278

Mod that fixes the items in Attila that are supposed to give XP upon unit recruitment

>>152451650
Nice.
I'm somewhat surprised CA never fixed it.

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>>152452203
I can see why. Numbers are from just now.

>>152452574
>why are twice as many people on rome 2
Setting.

>>152452625
AE can't come soon enough

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>152452625

There's also the "I preordered / day-one'd rome 2 and it sucked but it's bretty gud now so I ain't gonna touch Attila" crowd

>>152452625
those people have shit taste, migration period is a great setting

Vampire-chan's delicious thighs

>>152452763
I love reading about the period and I find the history interesting. Playing Attila? Nah, I'm just not feeling it.

>>152451108
Some fuck finished LCB. Kids these days.

>>152452763
I like it but not as much as muh hamata segmentata and muh greeks and muh arche seleukeia

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>>152452764

>>152452763
It is, but not compared to the rise of rome.
Having three large established blobs is kinda subtracting as well.

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>>152452821
Excuse me?

>>152453000
Some dude wrote a terrible ending to Love Can Bloom. I mean, the original wasn't good already, but somebody decided to one up the awful.

>>152434083
They are two seperate teams working on fantasy and historical TW at the same time.There is also a team who works on TW:Arena and rome 1 for iPad

>>152453107
Was that the: "It was Slaanesh all along!"?

>>152452808
funny, I feel that way about the rise of Rome, its interesting to read about it, but both Rome games are dull, since there is no late game threat like huns/mongols, or any late game empire like the Sassykids to fight against (muh seleukia doesnt count because it gets obliterated long nearly instantly)

>>152452852
squamata is the best armor anyway, and thats the one thats common in late antiquity

>>152453262
Civil war kinda counts.

>>152442297
Something that's not Thorgrim, Azhag or Kemmler pls!

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>>152453350
dats gud

>>152453256
It was more recent than that one I think. Anyway, not suitable for a total war general, so enough of that. Just search for it on 4plebs if you want to be disappointed.

Why can't humans and orcs be friends? Why do they fight so much?

>>152454669
Because they respect one another and both love fighting.

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no reason when playing empire to not do this because comfylanda

>>152454669
Cuz we like ta smash fings up, and youz da sekkund best at it!

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What is the hardest cheevo to get in warhams?

>None Shall Pass!
Win 25 siege defence battles during a campaign.

>>152455086

That's easymode though. All you need to counter the entire Bretonnian roster is a bunch of spearmen.

>>152455086
>conquer anywhere mod

Disgusting.

>>152455086
DELETE ZIS

>>152455283
To be fair, all you need to counter the Empire roster is crossbowmen.

>>152454669

Plenty of orcish mercenaries though.

>>152455282
That one's easy if you just let a 2 prov settlement rebel constantly. AI won't bother moving and will just muster outside attacking your walls.

No, no, anon. The hardest warhammer achievement is to get a garrison unit to rank 9.

>>152454669
Cause greeskins live to fight.

>>152455386
I got that one without noticing in eye-for-an-eye.
I don't know if the beastie boys get the same events in the grand campaign, but technology plus certain morissleb choices plus another event literally gave me generic ungors at max rank

>>152455287
sorry I like freedom commy

Tomb Kangs are memed a lot but they actually have a pretty cool roster, like with how they have giants and monstrous infantry with ranged attacks

>>152455542
I bet you use Radious too. Wouldn't want your rosters to have their freedom restricted by silly things like lore, balance or general faction uniqueness, now would ya?

>>152455282
>Build 5 pillars of skulls across your hordes
>Reach 8.000 income from raiding
my candidates

>>152447240
I bet you're one of those retards in YT comments
>Warhammer? How lame, why not Warcraft Total War?

>>152448654
>no dark eldars
shit list

>>152455724
>Reach 8.000 income from raiding
>spam gobbos/ungors/doggos and sit them in a capital like couronne or altdorf, ideally whoever you aren't at war with

what's a pillar of skulls? some shit t5 chaos building that does literally nothing I'm guessing?

>>152455702
no, just don't want my creativity ruined by CA's shitty attempt to do those 3 things lol

>Run Warhammer total war on ultra settings without a tiniest drop in frames
>Loading into battle/after battle takes 3-6 minutes
What the fuck

>>152456132
>painting the map your color
>creativity

>>152455930
yes, the tier 5 Chaos Knight building

>>152456289
oh, sweet. 500 cash per turn and a mediocre unit gets unlocked. Awesome...

WoC revamp when?

>>152442297
No dorfs please

>>152442297
KHAZUKAN KHAZUKIT HA

LIZARDMEN FUCKING WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152456706
Lizards don't go reee

>>152436109
I'm sorry, the correct answer was M O O P S.

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tfw no skaven

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>>152455701
Anons wanting Tomb Kings is not a meme.

>>152456156

Do you have an SSD? If not, there's your problem.

>>152442297
why not

The more I play the more I wonder if including agents in this game was a mistake.

If anything this should be some weird Skaven-exclusive mechanic or something.

>>152457194
Yeah I would have preferred if they were special embbedable units only. Maybe with 2 rolls like in the other games, one as an army advisor that doesn't take a slot, and one as a soldier that does

>>152457194
maybe they will get an overhaul in one of the sequels

>>152457246

I get the feeling that they're suppose to be this very utility-like thing that can make sieges easier, or soften up armies or take our minor army-leaders (which again, all sounds very Skaven).

But the AI milks the shit out of them, and rightfully so, they're super fucking good and usually worth the cost versus the risk of them achieving anything.

Nothing sucks more than getting an army all the way to Mannfred's door, and preparing for this massive final showdown only to have some banshee cunt ruin everything.

>>152457415
>sequels

I hope you mean expansions or patches Anon, because CA said they're going to be building this game for another (literally) decade.

>>152457562
I mean sequels. The game isn't getting expansions, unless you count race or campaign packs as expansions.

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Post played.

>>152456946
Fart?

>>152456952
>implying

>>152457648

Except it totally is though. It's getting a couple of full expansions with more land and more races as well as more races as DLC.

The expansions are a confirmed thing.

>>152457469
imo, one of the problems is how easy some are to recruit - empire captains, banshees, the ones that can be built en masse with no effort. Captains only require a L3 barracks and banshees a T3 thing. Both buildings give +1 to maximum capacity, and cause every city can build em, there's gonna be loads.

As you say about making sieges easier - this is generally not the case. It's only useful when you're moving the army towards the settlement. Once it's under siege, you cannot perform agent actions on the army inside or the settlement itself. It's beyond retarded.

>>152457648

2 expansions - Chaos Divided and another. Game files say so. Other one I think is Dark Elves and Lizardmen on a separate map with another Chaos invasion. Supposedly they are standalone but can be merged with the main game map for a super-duper grand campaign.

>>152457785
Where? I don't see any promise of expansions on the future content blog. I do see the promise of there being a trilogy of games that fit together.

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>>152457691

>>152457830
They aren't expansions. They are full priced, stand alone sequels.

>>152442297
roll

>>152457879
the only "sequel" this game will have is possibly the expansions being standalone but will also add land to the GC

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>>152457691
I got back into Mountainblade and so it's a lot less than it could be.

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>>152457691

>>152457984
Yes, but they can be combined with the main game to form one massive game, hence, expansions. It's the same either way.

>>152458013
They aren't expansions. CA has never once referred to them as such. They are full priced, stand alone sequels.

>>152458128
>They are full priced
Citation needed, don't worry I won't hold my breath because there isn't one.

>>152457879
They said from the beginning that to get everything in the game they plan on one or two big expansions.

The obvious one is the new world with Lizardmen, Dark Elves and High Elves.

The second one, as leaked in the plan document is supposed to be one faction for each chaos god. But CA have said that said leak was old and their decisions have changed around a bit.

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>>152456156
>run Warhammer on ultra with fast loading screens
>can barely run WoW on medium

>>152458246
>run Warhammer on high settings with no issues
>can't run Shogun 2 or AttittA above 10 fps on min settings

>>152456156
Your GPU and CPU and technically RAM(now the whore of computer construction so even your mom has enough to go around) render and compute everything visual and all the number crunching without missing a beat.

There are still a lot of files that need be loaded for every battle, your HDD read speed is responsible there.

>>152456156
SSD

They are cheap nowadays and will save you a lot of time

>>152458490

>500gb SSD £130

jesus theyve gone down a lot, i remember 120gb being like £160

>>152458121
Are you simple? They charge $20 for the beastmen, but you need a citation to conclude that 3-5 races with their own giant campaign map will be full priced. No surprise really seeing how stuck you are on the word expansion.

They aren't expansions. They refer to the games as a trilogy of titles, implying they are equal in scope and value.

>>152458672
Fuck, I meant meant to reply to >>152458173 for the first line.

>>152458595
They were worse than that at some stage.

PSA: You'll see newer SSDs begin to be more expensive for less storage, as the way forward with them is to shove them in PCIe slots. Because the SATA cable is now the bottleneck.

Don't actually fall for this meme unless you legitimately need more than 600mB/s read/write. Which you most certainly do not unless you're capturing video at 60fps and you don't want to drop any frames in what you're recording.

>Sieging some empire fags as Franz himself to unite the empire
>They offer peace
>Refuse
>"This offends the emperor"
What

>>152457648
Dunno, some sources state it as a trilogy, others point to FoTS-style expansions and the datamine points them as "expansions"

but no official stance whatsoever

>>152458672
You can believe they're going to be 2 full priced games if you want but that doesn't make either of us right until CA says something.

>>152458834
Every elector count thinks of himself being emperor.

yo /twg/, should I play med 2, empire, rome 1, rome 2, attila, or warhammer?

>>152459050
That depends entirely on what time period appeals to you and nothing else

>>152456952
whoa a skeleton giant would be bad ass

>>152459050
play whichever you have fewest hours on

>>152459050
play all of them

1 turn of med 2, 1 turn of empire, 1 turn of rome, etc until you get back to med 2

>>152459050
Check these digits o/
0-1 med2
2-3 rome 1
4-5 rome 2
6-7 Attila
8-9 Warhammer

Empire a shit

How do you guys handle Steam friends? I can't go comfy because they won't shut up. The only solution is to go offline.

>>152459019
Not him but CA has already stated this; its two full priced standalones, not expansions.

>>152459163
if someone made a youtube series of this with some editing i'd watch it lol

>>152458910
CA directly referred to it as a trilogy several times

From the initial announcement
>What is more, this title will go on to combine with two further standalone installments and additional content packs to create the largest Total War experience ever. An epic trilogy of titles that will redefine fantasy strategy gaming

to the future content blog
>For this week’s blog we thought we’d take a look at the post-release content plans for Total War: WARHAMMER, in particular what sort of content you might expect from Free content updates and DLC before Part II of the trilogy eventually arrives.

>>152459019
I would recommend at least tempering your expectations of the price, so you aren't too upset when warhammer part 2 ends up being full priced.

>>152442297
please

>>152459019
In what fucking reality would CA sell a standalone for less than $60

They just sold 1 faction for $20, each standalone will have 3 factions.

>>152459580
>They just sold 1 faction for $20,
1 faction and a campaign pack. They sold chaos for $8 CAD IIRC.

>>152460236
Are you actually retarded, like seriously

What the flying fuck do you think the races are going to do? magically spawn on the map as it is? They have to do all the same work they did for the campaign pack as they have to do with the standalone. Which means $20 per faction, which means $60 at least for the standalone.

Also
>comparing a fucking preorder inventive everyone has to a standalone
You really are naive as fuck.

>>152459580
>for $20

$13 ;^)

>>152460236
shut up, ya dingus!

you will trigger that autist who claims Chaos Warriors was not an actual race pack

>>152460236
>IIRC.
Fuck off reddit. I knew you were too stupid to be a /twg/ regular.

>>152460236

Chaos is mostly just reused assets of other things though. Animations, unit types, stats, plus it's a horde faction that doesn't need any mapwork done.

Beastmen have entirely new skeletons, animations, textures, unit types amongst other things.

>>152460413
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/

>>152460469
Chaos warriors and marauders uses unique skeletons though. Same with their lords and LLs.

>>152460337
>magically spawn on the map as it is?
>Skavenblight
>Athel Loren
Yes I do think that you fucking autist. Not every faction pack is going to have a mini campaign forced down our throats to recup the costs of making the new factions. It's not impossible that the elves and lizardmen expansion with naval battles could end up a full $60 but you literally don't have any proof.

>>152460469
>Chaos is mostly just reused assets of other things though.
Go look at the game files and realize how stupid you are

>>152460545
Yup 13 dollars if you add the discount. ;^)

>>152460561
Are they actual unique skeletons, though, or just modified human ones? Because that's more than likely what they will do with Elves, too.

>>152460337
DLC prices aren't comparable to standalone releases, as prices must be higher to compensate for the smaller market of potential buyers. Warhammer has potential to sell millions, while any of the dlc can only sell as many copies as the base game, which is around 800k.

>>152460654
They use different animations than empire soldiers at least.

>>152460623
Jesus Christ you really are fucking retarded.
>actually thinking I was talking about minicampaigns and not all the work on the actual campaigns
Kill yourself, seriously, if you are so thick you think that totally baseless irrational belief that the STANDALONES will be $20 then you need get a reality check. No more replies for you.

what is a good build for eva von sinckler?

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>>152460653
Is this 'calling a red pen blue' really the best you can do?

>>152460432
What is that some sort of banned word here?

>>152460623
>expansion with naval battles
I love it when people who have absolutely no clue about a game post thinking they have a relevant opinion.

CA has already stated naval battles will NEVER be a part of TWW, standalones or not.

>>152460654
at best the only reused asset is the heavily modified skeletons for movement.

everything else is basically unique such as armor, weapons, voices, etc

>>152460901
130 NOK = 15 dollars

And then you take the discount into account. ;^)