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>General info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGl_2gYrfM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AptAyPIL88&index=1&list=PLbhHt7tfNMCC4F3KKvqf5vhK4S2ViQHbf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVhwsUFaDE
http://youtu.be/cji-L0hu1Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUsOpKnHtZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0m6q0TDbqo

>FFRK
/ffg/'s RK FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/AwvGgpi3

>FF XII: The Zodiac Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81NsStczT8E

>World Of FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMey5SKKkc

>FF XI
/ffg/ has a linkshell on Asura: "FearTheVoid"!
FFXI's August update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/51154?_ga=1.139137075.1275968002.1463817636_ga=1.110236805.1275968002.1463817636
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FF Brave Exvius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bhRtof5oOA
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

>Mobius Final Fantasy
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.android_googleplay.mobiusff_ne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ipfJv4Qp6g

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/cPCCGXNy

Previous >>152317558
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.
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How do I catch up in JP RK? I have shit for orbs and the core dungeons are giving out 1 stamina shard every 4 dungeons.
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>>152430504
Fuck off, you first post is a shitpost, eat dick with you little flame wars you turbo autist.
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Why the fuck am I still playing RK and BE? They're just grind after stupid grind and shitty slot machines with terrible drop rates.

I just keep playing because I feel like if I don't, I'll miss out on important event shit or won't be able to participate in future events, but I don't even enjoy the games. I'm grinding so I can be able to play games I don't want to play. What the fuck is wrong with me?
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>>152431069
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>>152431069
Ever heard of the sunken cost fallacy?
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How come squatter poster was so late?

>>152431069
That's a good question. If you aren't having fun then don't play. I skipped out on some events and then felt like playing again. I'm still clearing content. Ultimately a game is to be fun.. with these mobile games they hook you with the feel like you HAVE to constantly play or buy to stay up with it. In truth, you don't. Just take a break.
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>>152431378
>>152431379
Eh, fuck it. I'mma go blow all my mithril and lapis, then delete the apps if (when) I get fuck all for pulls.
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>>152431559
Post em here for fun
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>>152431559
Enjoy your vivis
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>>152431706
Shadows, thank you very much.
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>>152431559
>Anon pulls on both apps
>He manages to get CoD, Exdeath, Chizuru, and Vaan in BE
>Manages to get Ragnarok and Orchicalum Dirk in RK
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>>152432775
You just picking random boards for this meme?
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>>152431614
>>152431706
>>152432756
I got nothing good. Only got one 5* in RK that I already had (Zack's Apocalypse), and basically nothing in BE. Best was a 3* Artemios and a 3* Zidane.

Welp. Time to go delete the apps, then.
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>>152435223
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Does the Brave Blade in FF5 start counting runs before or after I acquire it?

Just discovered it and I remember running from a fight or two early on to save some time
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>>152435385
before
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>>152435385
Before. The chicken knife is way better anyway
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>>152435458
>>152435469
Fuck, alright. I take it the 25% chance to run makes it only useful in boss fights?
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>>152435509
Chicken Knife's effect only activates if you attack normally. If you use a command like Rapid Fire, it bypasses the proc.
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>>152435509
Its flee effect doesn't trigger if you use a physical special move, like rapid fire or mug. It's really good
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>>152435602
>>152435574
Sounds like a knife for ninja/xfite Faris then
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>>152433225
may as well giveaway the RK save if you can, I'm sure there's some faggot who could use better luck than a long streak of 0/99 or some shit tbch
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>>152431069
RK is FUN.

>>152432775
Makes me laugh every time desu.

>>152433225
Wuts your friend code on RK so I can delete your loser ass?

>>152436673
this desu
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>replaying FF6
>using "off" characters like Cyan, Relm, Stago, Umaro
>phoenix cave
>get an idea
>fuckyeah never sold them
>offering + genji glove on Relm with two ice rods
>fucking shit up kinda
Gauntlet Berserk Cyan ftw
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>>152437806
You need to go to bed, it's not nice to laugh at people
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>>152437895
why don't you just use ice spells which are able to target all enemies anyway?
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>>152438065
Because in any FF game I never really used rods at all. didnt really start using a healing rod for its intended purpose until my teens, and naturally only used relm/strago/gau for mages. hitting shit with magic sticks is fun, their damage and procs are based on the users magic stat
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>>152437906
Sorry.
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>ff5
>trying to level up ranger as I progress through world 2
>had enough knowledge to grind out getting elemental bows before leaving world 1
>getting by with white magic 4 on everyone
>protect on everyone first turn
>backrow defense bonus
>able to get elemental weaknesses via bows
Am I missing some super secret Ranger trick or will this be good enough to progress past the Moore forest and so on?
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>>152439146
ranger sucks and is only used to get barrage
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>>152439146
Heh, yeah that'll be enough, buddy
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>>152439146
Yeah, buy a bunch of scrolls and toss them on your fastest ranger and sweep battles that way, assuming you have the throw command unlocked
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>>152430582
Just do core dungeons, there's now skipping that, best thing you can do is tackle the elite versions of them early if you rolled good relics, though you are in a bit worse position than I was when I started because at the time the events gave a few hero souls and MC1 lodes so I could get whatever characters I rolled relics for
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>>152432932
>replying at all to such an obvious troll

Report and ignore.
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>FFV
>Monk gets attacked during Focus
>counters
>doesn't go back to the Focus pose
Is Square the most incompetent company in history?
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>>152440384
Countering counts as an attack and consumes Focus
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>>152440432
He still did a strong attack after that, though.
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>>152440490
Coincidence; monks have an 8% chance to critically hit
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in FFVA, will there be somewhere I can easily get Shurikens and Scrolls, or should I save them for tough bosses?
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>>152441859
You can buy them later
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>>152441859
Scrolls are cheap-ish (200g ea) when you get to a certain village in world 1 and you can start stocking up there. Stars (1500g) are much more expensive and should be saved for bosses.

Also as a note, scrolls are stronger for mages and such. My Black Mage Gulaf was wrecking shit with scrolls
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>>152442104
>>152442179
Alright, sick.
>scrolls are stronger for mages and such
Makes sense, I'll keep that in mind.
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>>152442975
jewgle
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>>152443027
He'll do anything if you buy a leviathan pouch.
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>>152443326
D O G A R S
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Laswell or Russell?
I need. two physical attackers but I already have Bartz for the other one. Or should I bring 3?
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>>152435469
>implying
If you never run once ever (why the fuck would you) it's objectively better for endgame stuff, surpassed only by bonus weapons in the GBA remake.

And it means you don't have to farm running a whole bunch either.
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>>152443652
The Chicken Knife's damage calculation includes an additional multiplier based on agility, which other weapons do not get. A Thief with a maxed out chicken knife does more damage than a Knight with a maxed out brave blade. It's not just about the raw attack number sometimes.
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>>152443553
Lass is better because Murasame, but you need the Murasame on Butts until the new trial sword comes out in the next couple weeks (probably).

What's the rest of your team like though? I've breezed through all content so far with Butts as my only physical unit. Unless it's literal shit, you've got better options.
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>>152443931
Krile, Lenna and Cecil with Tellah and Rain as replacements. I also have Kuja and Kain for leveling if needed.
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>>152444375
Why not just go Butz, Cecil, Lenna, Krille, Tellah? That's a pretty solid team.
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>>152444375
Half your team (krile lenna bartz) is identical to mine, weird.

But yeah, you don't need another physical attacker with that setup.
You'd be sacrificing another useful role in favor of it at this point, which only makes sense if you have something good to replace it.

So like, if you had CoD or Garland or something then you might consider it, but right now it'd be stupid.
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>>152444478
>>152444628
Thanks for the advice anons.
Also, I managed to draw a 5* star Tellah but I already have a 3* one levelled, which one do I use?
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>>152444714
5* duh. The leveling and ascension mats needed to go from 3* to 5* is not worth it if you already have a 5* of that unit.
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>>152444714
The 5*.

Although he lacks the abilities learned as a 3* now, he'll get them as he goes along in addition to much more. You'd be saving yourself A LOT of grinding and Sacred Crystals.

Don't just toss the 3* though, it'll be nice for getting MP+30% trust reward.
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>>152444837
How does he learn the other spells?
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>>152444902
By leveling up.

From my understanding, newborn base 5*s differ from base 5*s you awaken, because they don't already know all the spells they learned as 3* and 4*s.
That's not a downside, though. It just means they learn them "again" as you level up.
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>>152444981
>>152444628
Thanks anons.
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>>152430504
Spare me your lies. I see the serpent coiled here before me.
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Nighty night /ffg/
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>>152446660
Sweet dreams pupper.
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T-thanks
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I love this orbfest. It tempts me to make a second Powerchain, but I'm going to see if I get a second good DD from the Celerity nightmare pull. Right now I have TIdus with Jecht shot and powerchain, and he just shits out damage, it's insane. a few rounds of building up with lifesyphon and then alternate powerchain and Jecht shot for 40k damage every 2 rounds, which is nothing when he is hasted.
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>>152448458
>T-thanks when he get Zidane
Fuck you faggot
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Best into the abyss exploration yet in BE. One Gigantuar/one Minituar/2 pure stones.
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Where is the best place to farm "water cryst" ? Brave Exvius related
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>>152451014
Change your friend gift to water cryst for a day or two
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>>152431706

Got Vivi from daily pull

Firaga might be gud, but by the time I get that it can probably be crafted.
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>>152451336
No, not even in JP.

You will get many many many vivis over the course of the game, so it makes the whole thing pretty easy.

It's also pretty worthless outside of giving Krile another weakness to exploit other than air.
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>>152442913
>Noctis actually does eat vegetables sometimes
Gladio was wrong.
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>>152451491
What about giving giving lasswell the firaga so he could kill goku and become the owner of the elder wand
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>>152452075

i'm noticing that the carrots didn't make the cut
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This is Tidus in 2016. What went so right?
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>new Matsuno game announced
>Platinum Games
>it's a mobage with obligatory lolis
Fucking kill me.
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>feeling the urge to pull but the banner is shit so I just do a single rare pull without the boosted rates
>4* crystals turns into 5*
>get this glorious motherfucker
that's going to satisfy my urges for a while.
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>>152453509
Fug, I kinda want him. Would be nice if I can swap Garland for him if I need a mage.
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>>152453483
Doesn't look like Meg Ryan anymore.
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so basically, normiehood has told us the following:

Noctis is a spoiled brat
Gladdy is a beefhead imouto cuck
Prompto still has the mentallity of a fat kid
Ignis is an autistic butler
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>>152453570

kinda does though
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>>152453483
y the sword change tho? They always stick with Brotherhood until now.
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>>152453483
Nice. I hated the extra pizazz the dissidia get-up had. Fucking spikey collars. Also nice to see a sword other than the brotherhood.?
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>>152453567
On top of being my favorite FF villain, he also gets me one stop closer towards having a full team of heavy armored badasses since I already have Garland and Golbez.
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>>152453596

tell us something we didn't know
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>>152453641

i've got two 6*++ copies of that sword and zero brotherhoods. i can only assume he's is in the same situation
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>>152453596
>Noctis is a spoiled brat
Nah. More like really stressed, with some untreated depression to boot.
>Gladdy is a beefhead imouto cuck
Kind of, but grows out of it somewhat.
>Prompto still has the mentallity of a fat kid
To a certain extent.
>Ignis is an autistic butler
More like an autistic carer. He also grows out of it; he's more casual/relaxed in the present time.
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>>152453868

autistic butler detected
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Can we get someone who actually likes final fantasy to review this shit?
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>>152453952
But that comeback doesn't even make sense, anon.
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>>152453820
Heh. Funny.
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>>152454040
A guy on /v/ said the action was better in AC and that KG action was too choppy and westernised. Also something about a drunk gumby
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>>152454040
I like the LA Times guy who trashed it because "plot and mythology are too dense". Is that supposed to be a negative?
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>>152454405

yes. apparently you're also quite dense.
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>>152454386
>action was too westernised
Wot?
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>>152454508
super intense shaky cam
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>>152454405
Absolutely. If you try cramming too much into a movie, it just ends up becoming a fucking mess.
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>>152454559
The story is pretty straightforward, though.
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>>152454641
I wouldn't know because I haven't seen the movie. I was just explaining how being too dense absolutely is a negative.
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>>152453868
t. Ignis
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>>152454641
Spoken like a true autistic. Has the processing power of 10 men, but cant figure out the feelings of anyone else.
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>>152454853
What did he mean by this?
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>want to finally platinum FFX HD
>remember the sphere grinding and ultimate weapons bullshit
Great. Is there any way to speed up this shit? I remember sphere grinding taking forever when I played FFX a decade ago.
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>Watched 1 hour Master Edition Gameplay
>Watched Kingsglaive awhile ago
>Still don't see how Cor gave Noct the ring
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>>152455204
PC version has cheat keys, otherwise no.
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>cant stop myself from grinding all the fucking time in FF5
>currently grinding master ranger with everyone dual wielding air knives from Moore
>cant stop thinking about rapid fire
300 points to go
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>>152455332
The gameplay was heavily edited to exclude spoilers. It also happens after KG.
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>>152455204
x4 speed makes the sphere grid maxing a lot more bearable, you can also just fill it with power or m.def spheres to get the achiev.

For the celestial weapons there was a macro to make the lightning dodge automatic and the other ones are pretty simple, Wakka is the most time consuming one and maybe Tidus if you didn't play before or played a long time ago.
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wtf is wrong with this spam filter, I cant meme arrow anymore
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>>152456993
>deleted
spooky
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>>152454641
>not even core synergy
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>>152455203
Robot cant process plot but not feelings
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quick question abot FFXV: will I have to have seen all these little things like the anime and Kingsclaive etc. to understand what is going on in FFXV? any info?
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>Nu-male cucktasy will die in your lifetime
>weebshit industry will die with it
feels good man
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>>152458661
Maybe smaller things. Maybe things will mean more to you like any expanded universe media. Otherwise, you're good.
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So in BE, I have both Roselia and Lenna, but which is better? Roselia gets more healing, but Lenna gets Cheer...
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>>152458909
vagina
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>>152458909
Lenna. The difference in healing should be very small, has Cheer, and Esuna is a nice plus so you don't have to search for the correct spell every time, just remember to give her Stona
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>>152458909
Lenna is just a superior Roselia
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>>152458846
Did this guy play the game or not? I've heard from other people that you can choose to drive even at day time. Having a look at the map there seems to be quite a few back roads as well that you can drive on but yeah it's a bit disappointing that it follows the same VIII rules of driving even though the car here is much more important to the game.
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>>152453483
I still hate his stupid cloths
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>>152458909
>Roselia gets more healing
Not by far, the difference between their SPR is not massive and Lenna also has Esuna and Cheer as opposed only having Cura and Curaja.
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>>152458846
>those graphics
Literally Watch Dogs.
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>>152461728
And a potential future 6*, which is neat. Maybe.
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>>152462057
As long she gets either Raise or Arise she would be only second to Refia, so yeah I really hope it's true.
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>>152462201
Refia isn't necessarily queen of the healers anymore, she's about as good as Rem and Tilith is a bit better with her 6*. She's still the only healer with that mega-Cheer, though.
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>>152458846
>car feels like is on rails
I was expecting that since the first time they showed the car gameplay. You probably only have full control of it on air (or maybe "full control" is a chocobo-exclusive feature).
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>>152462462
Refia is cute. Cute! Though.
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>>152462462
Whats mega cheer?

Also, 250 lapis pulls are a nice way to make sure we dont have 10000 lapis by the new year
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>>152463038
Like Cheer, but with better boosts.
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>>152463038
Anything special going on during the new year?
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>>152462887
Rem's not too bad either desu. Shame that Queen is a 5* base and not even all that good for a 6*, though.

>>152463038
It's a 45% boost to ATK/DEF instead of Cheer's 40%, and it lasts 5 turns instead of Cheer's 3.
WoL and Refia both have it at 6*. It's not really "mega", but it's notably better.

>>152463167
That anon's probably referring to the 3 guaranteed 5* pull that costs 10k lapis. I didn't know it was a new years thing, though.
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>>152463167
>>152463275
I think it said either new years celebration, or a date that says jan 1-3
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Speaking of turns, how long do Full Break lasts actually? I was thinking 3 but pretty sure it lasts longer than that.
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>>152463521
Nah, it's 3.
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>>152463521
3
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>>152463574
>>152463603
Ends during enemy's turn then? Because when I was fighting Ainsel I am reasonably sure it's still on at turn 3 of my turn.
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Is Vaan's White Whorl and Rydia's Odin any good?
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>>152463928
Rydia's SSB is alright. White Whorl isn't very good.
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>>152463928
White Whorl is trash and Odin is pretty meh but not awful.
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>>152464029
>>152464113
What about Thancred's Dancing Edge?
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>>152463443
Just a translated banner like the TMR ones, unlikely we will get that it because they used the prizes from that banner (golden gear) in a bundle.

>>152463275
I like Rem more than Refia, protectga, innate dual cast and passive mp rec are great. Tilith is the current queen of the healers tho, but she is only really good if you have another character with a MP rec buff, everything she does costs a lot, no passive of her own and can't dual cast.

Queen lacks support to make her actually good, she has pretty good stats and ST damage tho, just easily overshadowed by other 6* units.
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>>152464309
it's pretty good, but nothing special
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>>152464309
It's also meh.
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>>152464362
>>152464412
And for a final question, what about Mog's Hero Scarf, Kain's Lancet and Cecil's Lustrous Shield? I've been looking through my equipment to see who to replace my fully leveled team with.
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>>152464617
Lancet and Sentinel are both not good, but Mog's scarf can be very useful.
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>>152464617
Heroic Scarf is decent because you can stack it with Break Down, Lancet is garbage and the shield isn't great overall, but it's got some niche uses.
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>>152464727
>>152464780
Thanks anons.
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>>152464617
Heroic Harmony is an all ATK/MAG Breakdown that stacks with other breaks, so it's pretty good.

Sentinel's not amazing, but it's niche because you can use it for Draw Fire/Magic Lure purposes and bring other skills.

Lancet is way too old; you're better off using Drain Leap on Kain.
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What a ded thred.
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>>152467027
so?
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i just want a zidane ;_;
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>>152467027
>v makes fun of FFXV AGAIN!
More news at 11
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>>152467283
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>>152467283
You'll get your Lanis and you will like it mister.
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>No wind Warrior cards in Mobius yet.

How are other Warrior mains dealing with this event?
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Is this real or just a /v/ troll?
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>>152467283
>tfw Zidane was my first pull when I first fired up the game and now he's max level earning me FP hand over fist.
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>people expected XV to be a good game
lol
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>>152467578
Wind Pupu and single target fire/water cards.
Tried to use some ranger wind cards but they are shit in higher floors without ranger's job bonus and high crit%. Warriors have high def and earth element, so it is basically turtle vs turtle.
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So how much lapis have you f2p jews saved up so far? I'm at 4800 now.
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>>152468719
I'm riding high with 450.
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>>152468719
850. Should have whaled those Summer Specials, brah.
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>>152468719
8300 here.
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Whats this new mobius event all about?
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>>152468719
11450, plus 11 tickets. I was supposed to have more, but I stopped doing dailies weeks ago, I just log in for rewards (when I remember to do it).

>>152471338
Get some wind stuff and climb ~50 floors of some magical tower while hunting some big turtle on each floor. Rewards every 5 floors, cutscenes every 10 floors, 3* stone mage cards from boss.
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>>152455517

I only bother with the mega grind once I have Lv.5 Death in world 2. Less strain on my sanity
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>That laugh
https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp/soul_strike/11100100/20160622_xpCSMvHBL5I.mp4
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>>152471824
>stone mage cards
I am now stone hard as fuck.
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Anyone know who the highest attack rating machinist is in RK? Want to use today and tomorrow to level one up.
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>>152472165
what does it do? I got her SSB off the 100gem draw, pretty hyped for her.

>>152471338
pretty good stuff. clear 50 floors, then you get a progressively harder cycle of 2 roaming boss + a turtle. I'm trying to finish my 4th panel of black mage before i go further, but that probably will mean i need to use 1000 magicite on some unlockers. I'd like to get to tier2 of event rewards, but that might not be possible.
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Are 1/2 off summon dailies here to temporary? I want to do theme each day but these featured units are shit
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>>152473219
Laguna I believe, but Balthier's probably the best.
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I wish I could give dupes 3-star accessories in RK to new players which needs them since they are just cluttering my inventory now.
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>>152473580
It's here to stay.
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>>152474139
Guess so. Plus looks like he can use quite a bit of melee weapons too. Thanks.
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edgar's the best machinist
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>>152475992
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>>152476471

cute, fragile, shitty weapon selection.
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>>152463790
It turns off turn 3 of the enemy turn. So count 3 of your turns and then reapply Full Break. I found that out the hard way when Chizu got destroyed by Ainsel by Aeroga/another AoE.

>>152467942
Locke is now better for the current event going on. Though I had a friend Locke with me one run of the abyss and Ainsel didn't drop anything.

>>152468719
At 8450 Lapis with one free ticket.
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>>152468719
21 tickets and 9200 lapis
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>>152477532
you won't get lightning :^)
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>>152477602
Only going for an 11 pull on her banner and leaving it at that
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>>152453596
Why do people refuse to accept Prompto as best boy? He's the only option.
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>dissidia event also doesn't have a hero soul

Holy fuck I pulled 2 Exdeath relics a month ago I wanted to level him during orbfest what the fuck, is nightmare dungeon my only hope?
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>>152478945
fat chocobo exchange
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Knight or White Mage for Mobius? Finished panel 3 for WHM and am part way into 3 with Knight.
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>>152476865
Does Locke have a guaranteed steal like Zidane gets at Max level?
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>>152479423
whitemage if you want to be allstar of multiplayer.
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>>152479554

How does multiplayer work in mobius?
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>>152479637
poorly
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>>152479735
like the rest of the game
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so when's the mobius is bad meme going to die?
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>>152479952
it's not a meme, the game is just bad
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>>152479452
No, but he does have an increased chance of Treasure chests dropping and an additional chance of it being 2 mats instead of one.
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>>152479637
Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dMJtAr9PiA
You set up all your actions before the turn starts.
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>>152479952
When SE decides to remove the "100% new job card" from job summons, delete the ability shop, remove monster drops and put monster cards on card summon, make awful summon rates for good stuff, and slightly reduce the prices of everything to compensate that.
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>>152480315

lol interesting music, multiplayer looks like it'll suck if 1 or 2 people are retarded.
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>>152478945
>bending that card
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>>152454040
That's how I feel about most of professional "critics"; it's like grandpop was conscripted to write a paper on doom 3 when he's a hardcore grand strategy fan and so the finished product is all the bile he can muster at being snatched form his comfort zone.
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>>152480315
>boatloads of phoenix downs

>>152480557
I actually like the guaranteed new job, but nice bait.
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>>152480804
The music is from FF13-2.
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>>152480315
That music tho.

I seriously hope XV has a track like that.
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>>152480557
So they'd have to make everything random and shit?

>>152481310
>nice bait
I think he was being facetious anon.
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>>152480315
Vayne as a support card? neato
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Name a cuter character
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>>152481562
That way he can do no wrong.
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>>152481585
That's easy because Raya-O is the cutest!
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>>152481585
I just posted Noel.
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>>152481408
>So they'd have to make everything random and shit?
It is called "gashapon", dad. It's not just "random and shit" and it's completely legal in the whole world.
How can your game even please the gambling addicted audience if you remove the thrill of gambling from your game? Mobius on JP is better for a reason.
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>>152481605
>Implying he'd be able to do wrong anyway
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>>152481836
I'm actually interested in the 6x random ability draw, where it's possible to get some number of 4*s. You break even if you pull 1 4*, because of the price of growstars.

On a related note, are either mobius or rk easily playable on bluestacks, in addition to my phone? I kind of want to refresh orbfest today, but it takes forever to autobattle pupu's in mobius.
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>>152481836
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>>152480557
the lack of gamba isn't the problem
the awful gameplay is the problem
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>>152482434
the gamplay is pretty decent though
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>>152482434
Gameplay is fun senpai
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>>152482559
>>152482621
nice shit opinions
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>>152481585
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>>152482434
The combat is actually pretty fun, though.
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>>152482670
Have we gone over this before?
Post 15248261 is higher than post 152482434;
Therefore I > you
Which means my opinion > your opinion

Feel free to dispute basic math, stupid.
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>>152482675
Vanille is very cute.
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>>152482770
Can't even link posts right what a retard
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>>152482852
>needing to be spoon fed by linking posts
We've found the real retard.
Kindly go back to the v board
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>>152479268
there's no souls in the the chocobo, please.
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This is some BULLSHIT
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>>152468719
Like 12500
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>>152478945
Yeah either nightmare dungeon or waiting for a new event. Maybe he'll be recruitable in the upcoming V event
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>finished grinding out ninja and ranger before finishing moore forest
>feel awesome
>suddenly wonder why my phone cant take a good screenshot of a screen ever
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>>152487276
You're grinding too much. You made the game too easy.
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>>152482774
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>>152487276
>>152487467
See, the problem with getting Dualwield/Rapidfire/Spellblade so early is that it gives you nothing to grind for THE REST of the game until you can get Mime.
Freelancer needs no AP, so you're basically wasting it all until then.

Plus, not having flare spellblade makes it not THAT OP at all on enemies without weaknesses at this point either.
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>>152487467
could not help myself, the idea of a rapid fire monk squad was too much to handle
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don't die
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>>152485038
He'll move when you complete all the Chocobo minigames.
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>>152481585
Even Exdeath is cuter than that shity pedo bait.
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damn im at 60 adamans, getting hard now.
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>>152492056
what seed multipler do you get?
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>>>/v/349192489

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>152492710
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>>152492439

7.5 to 9 i think, im just autoing through with my white mage, takes ages though with no wind.
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>>152467578
Most warrior-types have a pretty meh magic rate anyways, so a wind Pupu does more damage over time anyways.

Although, as a mage, it's real nice to see those high damage numbers start spiking with a good faith on.
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>>152492838
ah neat, maybe i'll try and get to the end of the tower with black mage. sucks that i can't really grind out fights since no defense.
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>>152492710
Iris is illecebrous!
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Cactuar vortex when
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>>152497680
Never, wait for labyrinth.
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>>152493678
I've got a mage, same problem. Using Gusion for Windforce helps, on my end, but I think I need to upgrade my support cards and try again with better decks.
.
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>decide to do one 11x on Orlandu banner after all
>got his Burst
So I guess now I'm forced to do that Ultimate for his MC3
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>don't have any good physical dps
>craft burst shot give it to zidane
holy shit, this is a pretty decent skill after all now my zidane can dish out some pretty decent damage
my I'll do the vortex again and craft another one
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>you will never experience IX for the first time again
fuck, i played it for the first time in 2013 and it still became one of my favorite games of all time
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So for all you Bartzfags who haven't been equipping him with Hero Rings because his base attack is <100, it actually rounds up to +10ATK in some cases.

So they are objectively superior to Hyper Wrists for that extra def+spr+mag in addition to the same attack if you're sitting on just the right fractional amount (probably an esper thing).

When he hits 6* none of that matters anyway of course, but it's a good note.
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>>152499385
Burst shot is objectively inferior to Raging Fist, which you can get both from Ifrit and from FP summon Trust.

Burst shot is 1.0x with an automatic crit, meaning it always deals 1.5x.

Raging Fist is 1.2x with 25% mitigation, meaning it deals 1.6x minimum damage. And you can still crit on top of that for 2.2x damage.

There's no reason to use it ever and you wasted your time.
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I have a character on Asura XI.
I didn't know there was a /vr/ LS on there.

Should I play Nasomi?
What's the player count?

I'm just looking for consistent players to game with. Any suggestions?
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>>152502145
nah, fuck TMR. I hate that shit, and I only got like 2 or three kenyu out of more than 20000 FP summon. I need a good physical dps skill sooner than later, and it only cost like 5 hard peeble or 3 vortex run if you're lucky.
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>>152499385
>burst shot
>when it takes one friend point event to get raging fist instead

what a moron
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>>152502796
The point is you will inevitably get multiple copies of Raging Fist for free without any effort.

Also, that's not good physical DPS. That's not even passable physical DPS. Russell with a standard attack does way more than that.

Does Zidane not have Ifrit equipped? You need Raging Fist to hit Plant Killer anyway, so it'd be dumb not to unlock it.
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>>152502474
dead game

dead LS
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>>152502796
>>152502145
>>152499385
>>152503285
>>152503219
It should be mentioned that Burst Shot is a very good move to put on somebody like WoL and Cecil and here's why:

The ability Sentinel is misleading, you can actually use other moves than just defend to have it activate. Burst Shot will still allow Sentinel to trigger at the cost of your tank taking the full hit instead of half damage.

Raging fist will not.

So yes, endgame you absolutely should craft one for Cecil, even if you don't have him yet. It will be a great addition to his arsenal.
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>>152498045
do you have 4* of sylph? I have enough growstar, but I'm unexcited about getting even more wind seeds. I do have Gusion because of UFOs though, maybe I'll try that.

Also, is your mage max level?
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>grind orbfest
>play euro truck and listen to some oldies while stamina fills
>repeat
couldn't get any comfier
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>>152504489
surviving total annihilation is pretty comfy.
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>>152487942
>Not Rapid-Fire Ninja Squad.

You dun fucked it up now.
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>>152503910
>wasting one of cecil's slots on irrelevant damage
horrible idea
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>>152505891
It's the ONLY current way of him dealing physical damage without sacrificing his utility as a tank.

It's way more important for WoL than Cecil, who hits like a wet sock anyway.
Cecil is better off casting Cura while he tanks, and his slots could be better filled with HP+% and Def+% (Spr+% too, although its effect on healing is pretty marginal to waste a key on)

Anybody with WoL right now would be stupid not to get this though.
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>>152497680
You get a solid 50k each time you enter the Abyss event.

With a small chance of Gigantuar.
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>>152506417
The Abyss caps out at 75,992 unit EXP if you kill everything.

That's better than Cactaur dunes if you have the time or have the right party. Most people don't, but even if you have half your party maxed out it still beats the vortex.
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>>152504489
who are you leveling right now famalam?

For me: Edge, Gabranth, Basch, Eiko, Yang.
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>>152506841
In BE: CoD, Garland, Lenna, Kefka, being aided my my capped Zidane.
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>>152506841
Why are you leveling those losers? Except Basch and Gabranth.
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>>152506841
I'm leveling and grinding the SBs on these characters
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>>152506841

Maria, Gordon, Cayenne

>>152507454
>still having non-losers to level
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>>152506841
Leveling some Cores
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>>152507454
I'm just unlocking some RMs. I have SB/SSB for edge, and he'll have synergy in celerity abyss. Gabranth and Basch are low 70s; i'm shooting for 75 to do CMs.
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leila is... cute?!
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ded general, ded fantasy
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>When you reach level 4 Monk in V and get Counter
Should I just dump it at this point or master it for the benefits? I have 2 on Monk, 1 WM, 1 Thief at the town just past when you get the Wind Drake.

Or maybe I should have just dumped Thief because these abilities are all gutter and I would have been better served with another Monk/Counter to be honest
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>>152508364
Maria is threatened by Leila's cuteness!
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>>152509719
Monk/Thief/Summoner (Monk/Thief/Oracle in GBA) are the three best classes in terms of stats. Maxing those three will override all other classes on your endgame mime/freelancer

HP+30% is also naisu for leveling squishy classes like Red Mage up.
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>>152510175
The Thiefs agility seems to be highly rated everywhere by everyone but fuck is thief crappy to use in fights. It is early though so for my next run I'll just leave thief till Passages and jump to Monk until the AB bonuses are more than a measely 1/2.
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>>152506841
Right now Rydia and Ramza, I wanted to level Porom but she's capped and I'm out of lodes.
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Post great FF tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NINyylPSRk4
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>>152511586
It's FFV, so you can breeze through the game with any class without ever switching. Thief is shittier than most others yeah, but that's why you don't level all your party as a thief at the same time.
And it only really matters later on when you get Mime or want to switch to Freelancer again anyway, so it's not even immediately useful.

It does only take 635 total AP to master a Thief, which goes by pretty quick. Ninjas and Hunters have pretty comparable agility too, it's just not minmaxed.
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>>152512274
I wouldn't even bother with thief (i rarely use steal) if the job variety at the beginning was better with blue mage being the most useless of the bunch
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>>152511791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXIKFoP2lZ4
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About to get another MC2. Who should I use it on? Cloud to get his RM?
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>>152512979

here we have it

we finally found the wrongest post

good job guys.
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>>152508364

>blue hair

yes, yes, YES!
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>>152513207

unless your stuck at the 140 fights, you really don't need to rush mako might /mog's
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>>152513245
>blue mage useful early
not even donald trump could do mental gymnastics to justify that
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>>152512979
>blue mage being the most useless of the bunch
Anon you're a pretty funny guy I'll give you that.
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>tifa will never send you lewd selfies
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>>152513541
I had trouble with the 140 fight on the FFIX event but haven't given it a shot on XII yet.

the reason I think of mako might being useful is I have mist overload for Fran. It's pretty much my only useful relic and being able to full break at the start of a match would be pretty fuckin sweet
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>>152513563

goblin punch and vampire you fucking inbred
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>>152513563
You can get vampire and goblin punch in the first cave of the game.

In the SNES version, vampire is extremely powerful and makes healers obsolete for half the game.
In the GBA version, it's EXTREMELY POWERFUL and makes healers obsolete for the rest of the game.
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>>152513563
This. Have fun sitting there thumb up your arse hoping to get hit as a Blue Mage early until you master Summoner or whichever one gives you control of beasts.
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Did they ever change the requirements to get Excalibur 2 in 9 or is it still the wild ride of speeding through the game?
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>>152514235
Still speed
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>>152513758
if you have a second SB/SSB that is really good at the start of a fight, (you do have tyro's RM3, right?) go for Cloud. Otherwise, this largely depends on who you have relics for.

>just realized your tyro is only 53
He should be a priority for leveling.
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>>152514301
That's a real shame.
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>Using BM
Vomit. Bet you inept lot think mastering BM over Summoner is a good idea too.
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>>152514423
i have attunement and attunement 2 for tyro. he needs to break cap again for RM3, right? Or is it just hitting 65? I'm assuming I'll get another crystal for him in story mode but that's been on hold for orbfest.

and yeah, tyro's being leveled. i'm rotating everyone in for orbfest runs
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>>152514235
You can also let the game run for 4 years or so, the internal clock will reset and the sword will be available again.
So, either a speedrun or an idling game.
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>>152514896
oh yeah, it's probably in story, but definitely wait for after orbfest.
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>>152514235
Since it runs off of the internal clock you can use the speed up function on the steam release to save time
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>>152514184
Or you could just make your whole party blue mages. Or give them all learning, it's really not that hard to learn blue magic
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>>152514887
>>152514887
summoner is better overall than black mage but it doesn't make blue mage that bad of an early job
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>>152515672
>summoner is better overall than black mage
MP+30% called, it said dualcasting flare is expensive.
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>>152514896

dont be stingy with your eggs
egg everyone you need to do 140+
higher content you can do, more orbs
more orbs more 5* skills
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>>152511791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syovgXHnFmY
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>>152511791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUOOgNzOv4
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>>152514896
I dunno when they gave out Tyro's MC2, but it's not in the core dungeons. Think you need a MC2 lode for him.
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>>152516528
>its a gobal gets cucked again episode
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>>152516528
I can finally get a relic for Lightning-sama!
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>>152516606
what is the problem exactly? no faris bow is not a big deal
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>>152516836
Can, not will.
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>>152511791

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6t_uyg_pF8

Terra's Theme is my favorite track in the entire series.
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>>152516904
>lost hastega
>lost aoe atk and mag breakdown
>lost HotE
Geez, I wonder.
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>>152516528
I don't mind the Golden Armor change, but only because I already have it. The only relic I already have from there is the Fairy Flute, so I might pull.

And get another Fairy Flute.
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You guys ready for the celerity lucky draw

Tyro:
Sentinel Grimoire (NAT: party DEF/RES +200% as 608)
Healing Grimoire (WHT: party Curaja (h104), 2 meter)
Cyclone Grimoire (BLK: 725% AoE Non, with RES-50% as 607)
SSB Last Judgement (PHY: 200% AoE Earth ranged, 3 hits (600%))
BSB Keeper Tome (NAT: party Protect/Shell/Magic Blink + PHY/Support: 210% single with ATK/MAG-20% as 610, and PHY/Support: 210% single with DEF/RES-20% as 608)

Leila:
Dancing Dagger (NAT: party Shell/Haste)

Edge:
Murasame (PHY: 115% AoE Water ranged, 3 hits (345%) with auto-stun. Water+ item)
Kotetsu (PHY: 66% single Lightning, 8 hits (528%) with auto-paralysis and auto-slow)
SSB Sasuke (PHY: 145% AoE fire/non ranged, 4 hits (580%) as instant cast)

Locke:
Rising Sun (PHY: 320% AoE with auto-slow)
Wing Edge (PHY: 330% AoE fire, with party heal h40)
SSB Valiant Knife (PHY: 100% single, 8 hits; attack has an ATK boost based on missing HP)

Shadow:
Sasuke (PHY: 128% single ranged, 4 hits (512%), with sap proc 50.3%)
SSB Ichigeki (PHY: 96% single, 8 hits (768%) with self Blink 2; instant)

Gau:
Gauntlet (PHY: 420% AoE Lightning with 3 rounds of 210% single lightning ranged)

Zack:
Buster-CC (PHY: 65% single, 8 hits (520%))
Zack's Gloves (PHY: 137% AoE ranged, 3 hits (411%) with auto-stun)
SSB Apocalypse (PHY: 150% AoE ranged, 4 hits (600%) with party haste)

Zidane:
Butterfly Sword (PHY: 175% single ranged, 3 hits (525%))
Exploda (PHY: 128% single ranged, 4 hits (512%) with ATK-50% as 603, and self ATK+35% as 603)
SSB Orichalcum (see Exploda; 150% AoE ranged, 4 hits (600%) instead)
BSB The Ogre (PHY: 98% AoE Wind, 6 hits (588%) with imperil wind + PHY/Thief: 200% single with ATK-40% and self ATK+50% (both 603), and 200% single with DEF-40% and self DEF+50% (both 604)
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>>152517098
Why do they make these changes? It seems like it is more work for no reason
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>>152517443

Tidus:
Brotherhood (PHY: 480% AoE)
Lightning Steel (PHY: 85% single, 6 hits (510%). Lightning+ item)
Seeker Shield (NAT: party Haste and Ether)
SSB Force Saber (PHY: 263% single Water ranged, 3 hits (789%))
BSB Razzmatazz (PHY: 102% AoE water ranged, 5 hits (510%) with en-water + PHY/Combat: 54% single water/non ranged, 4 hits (216%) and PHY/Combat: 75% AoE water/non ranged, 2 hits (150%))

Rikku:
Buster Claw (PHY: 350% AoE ranged, with sap proc 50%)
Guardian Targe (NAT: party ATK+30% as 603, and RES+50% as 607)
Flexible Arm (PHY: 129% single, 4 hits (516%) with ATK-50% as 603 and self ATK+50% as 603)

Vaan:
Zwill Blade (PHY: 320% AoE ranged, with sap 50%)
K-Sword (PHY: 170% single ranged, 3 hits (510%) with blind and silence procs net 50.7%)
SSB Kagenui (PHY: 150% AoE ranged, 4 hits (600%) with ATK-50% as 603 and self ATK+50% as 603)
BSB Orichalcum Dirk (PHY: 152% single ranged, 5 hits (760%) with DEF/MAG-40% as 620; instant cast + PHY/Support: 200% single; 0.825 ct DEF-40% and PHY/Support: 200% single; 0.825 ct MAG-50%)

Fran:
Loxley Bow (PHY: 380% single ranged, with DEF/RES -50% as 608 for 10s)
Killer Bow (PHY: 134% AoE ranged, 3 hits (402%) with ATK/MAG -40% as 610)
SSB Traitor Bow (PHY: 113% single ranged, 7 hits (791%) with Full Breakdown -40% as 609)

Lightning:
Blazefire Saber (PHY: 170% single ranged, 3 hits (510%))
Lightning Model (NAT: self En-Lightning)
SSB Peacemaker (PHY: 130% AoE lightning, 5 hits (650%))
BSB Overture (PHY: 115% single, 7 hits (805%) + PHY/Combat: 46% single, 4 hits (184%) with net 31.4% stun and 80% crit rate, and PHY/Combat: 63% AoE, 2 hits (126%) with slow proc 29.44% and 80% crit rate)

Thancred:
Ninja Chain (PHY: 350% AoE ranged with auto-slow)
Yoshimitsu (PHY: 123% single, 4 hits (492%) with DEF-50% as 604)
SSB Air Knives (PHY: 149% AoE Wind, 4 hits (596%) with party haste. Wind+ item.)
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>>152511791
>>152513186
>>152516145
>>152517025
>ffvi had great music meme
embarrassing desu

>>152516305
good taste desu

https://youtu.be/IhxlwQFiGyA
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>>152517443
>>152517606
A lot more BSB on this one.
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>>152517443
>>152517606

Yikes, almost nothing good to draw for except maybe getting lucky with a bsb. I might just skip.
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>>152517748
Same. Regular SBs mostly suck and I either ownor don't care for the SSBs.

So it's SG, BSBs, or Bust. I'll pass.
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>>152517748
>>152517960
>Passing on lucky draws
And then you faggots cry when you have no synergy to speak of for CM/U+
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>>152517443
>>152517606

not when we're 3 weeks from best girl banner
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>>152518084
It's not an effective use of 25 myth, sorry bub. What you see up there is trash, for mostly trash characters. Trap banner.
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>>152518269
Holy fuck, you're alive!?
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>>152518535
Terra fag = celes fag has been confirmed multiple times already.
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>>152516528
>>152516606
>>152516836
>>152517250
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>>152518680
[citation needed]
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>>152517542

they just swapped a few of SBs for SSBs
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>>152518481
Are you joking? That banner has at bare minimum 14 worth to get relics. 14 out of 44 relics. That's 31.818181% chance of getting something worth your mithril if you roll a rainbow.
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>>152515596
>Job is crummy so apply it to everyone to make its gimmick work
sassy_fat_black_woman_rolls_her_eyes_and_shakes_her_head_while_snapping_in_z_formation_with_superimposed_text_saying_You're_a_dumbass_nigger
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>>152519118
>tyro
SG or his BSB are worth it.

>edge
into the trash

>leila
into the trash

>locke
ssb would be nice

>shadow
ssb would be nice

>gau
into the trash

>zack
into the trash

>zidane
BSB or bust

>teedu
even his bsb sucks.

>rikku
trashed

>vaan
SSB or BSB could be nice

>Fran
SSB

>Lightning
BSB or SSB would be good

>Thancred
bottom of the trash can


overall, not worth as you can see
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>>152519118
That's 25 mythril that can go to getting a relic that I'd be overall happier with than some "objectively good but don't particularly care for" relic. Maybe I'll change my mind when it comes around but the next few banners + W Burst are more appealing at this time.
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>>152519478
No wonder people think V is a hard game
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>>152519118
This desu.

Even the 'best' relics don't do you a lot of good in terms of stats if you only have a few. Having a selection of 5* gear will get you a hell of a lot further, and 25 mithril for a full draw is a good deal.
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>>152519693
Nobody thinks that. At least, I hope not many people think that.
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>>152517443
>>152517606

there's some really good stuff for CMs here, including a whole bunch of hastegas and high-potency damage SBs
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>>152519486

Frans killer bow is nice, AoE atk/mag debuff is really good.
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>>152519486
>zack
>what's hastega

>edge
>ignoring the potential of IC

>tidus
>what is water weakness in the upcoming U+ dungeons

>rikku
>boosts at 603 and 607 stacking with anything relevant party wide
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>>152518269
I demand you explain your prolonged absence from this thread.

>>152519486
I would change the following:
Locke SSB = Trash
Teedu BSB = Good (EnElement BSBs are objectively pretty good)
Vaan = BSB or Bust
Fran = Atk/Mag BD Bow is better
Thancred = Air Knives has sick stats and boosts wind, that's good enough.
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>>152519859
I've seen people who do, and it's assholes like this >>152519478
who think that because they don't understand how the game works, they try to beat bosses the legitimate way
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>>152516074
well that's lame.

so should i do it to cloud or tyro?
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>>152519862
>>152519816
>>152519682

wasting mythril when we're so close to the point (next V banner) when banners / relics become so much better
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>>152519978
Rikku's SB doesn't stack with Shout.
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>>152519486
>expecting top-tier SB's from Celerity-based characters

You're looking for 5*'s for favorite characters or for having more weapons available on this banner. Almost all of the weapons are swords or daggers, which means that it's a 5* that just about everyone worthwhile can use, and most of them have a good power to them. it's not like some previous banners which were full of shitty rods and niche weapons.

Plus, for me, almost all of these characters I've got shitty synergy for anyways.
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>>152520016
This game is already simple enough legitimate normal game play or whatever you're suggesting. Literally no one said it's hard, hang yourself
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>>152520008
>Locke SSB = Trash
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>>152520246
Just double checked and shout is 603, sorry about that. I forgot to mention Air Knives being pretty fucking decent and has +wind which is really nice.
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>>152519486
>Zack
>Rikku
>trash
you're trash.
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>>152520392
God Tifa's so perfect
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>>152520021
Tyro is more useful, even if you don't have his relics.
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Dunno half price for a shot at 5 BSB with some of them being really good seems like a good deal. Even some of the worst relics are synergy for cid missions
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>>152520531
If you're with the al bhed, you'll be dead.
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Anons, im a ftpbro and I've pulled
Exdeath
Artemios
Kefka
Chizuru
Lenna
Cecil
Kain
Loche
Shantotto x2
Luna x2
Does this make me good at the game?
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>>152521140

Hmm top tier dps, mages, healer and tank, i wonder...
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>>152520406
The boost is applied to atk and thus restricted by the soft cap. At max bonus, you're getting like 18% more damage. that's not good enough nor does it occur often enough to be relevant (remember thats with the max bonus that happens at low hp).
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>>152521140
please refain from shitposting so blatantly. at least make it less obvious.
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>>152521328
I feel like my luck is likely used up. Gonna need to grind TMs to do my party justice.
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>>152519486

>zack
>into the trash

No
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Anons, im a lightningworshiper and I've pulled
Cecil
Chizuru
Bartz
Lani
Garland
Kefka
Fran
Tellah
Zidane
Vivi
Vaan

Is this any good?
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>>152521621
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>>152522176
>Cecil
>Chizuru
>Bartz
>Garland
>Kefka

A+ team right there nigga
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>>152522176
>not any lightnings

You fucked up.
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>>152522176
Very nice friend
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>FFV hasn't received a remake yet
If they made it into an ff12 esque game this game would crush ff7verrated
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>>152522343
Vann also, good pulls
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>>152521140
I'm a F2P player and I pulled these. CoD is now a 5* level 53 and Chizuru is close to maxing her 4* form. I also have Golbez/Tellah/Krile chilling in the back.
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>>152522689
>insert FF hasn't received a remake
If it took them this long to remake 7, chances are we will see the next remake by 2025.
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>>152523201
The remake is vaporware too, we haven't gotten any new info in like 8 months. There was just that reveal trailer and the odd gameplay footage along with some interviews.
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>>152522689
V got it's remake on iOS :)
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>>152523317
it's obvious they toned down the remake to try to hype up XV
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>>152523598
I think people were more excited for the remake though, people have talked about how amazing a remake would be for years
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>>152522745
Nice man, chiz and CoD will be strong for a while
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>>152523598
I still don't understand the reason for the 15 delay, to what was it, post Christmas?

The FF12 remake next year is more interesting than 15 to be honest.
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>>152524058
are you dumb? It's coming out in november.
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>>152523317
There was some violent backlash to the trailer and gameplay, too.
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>>152524058
The reason for the delay is that there is supposedly a very large day 1 patch they would have had to roll out
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It's cliche, but post 'em. Orbfest the best.
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>>152524982

literally can't think of anything less interesting
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>>152524770
[citation needed]
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>>152525035
Then post your keepers choice pulls famalam. Tailwind is pretty good.
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>>152525229

my shout is better. i'm not pulling on that old garbage.
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I kind of want thancred's daggers for synergy. Someone stop me from pulling please?
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>first draw
>nothing
>picked Ramza's armor/Tailwind for Tactics synergy

>2nd draw because I'm an impatient fuck
>Light's gun and Eiko's flute, both dupes (perfectly fine with another powerful gun and combining flutes though)
>Faris' bow for V synergy
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>>152525447
These are the daggers you want for Thancred, not the ones on the keeper banner
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>>152525090
Really? You didn't see it? People mocking the episodic structure by saying Yuffie and Vincent would be reduced to DLC? How people complained that it looked like it played too much like Crisis Core?

Literally everyone saying that they just wanted an updated rerelease of the original with the same gameplay?
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>>152525362
>old garbage
>literally came out in the same banner
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>>152525447

next XIV banner
a) is ages away
b) has 5* guaranteed
c) has a better dagger for him
d) also includes thyrus

pretty easy skip there
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Wow the choosable relics are garbage. Already got HotF. Tailwind isnt worth the 50 mithril when I have a shot at a bunch of good celereity character relics/BSBs for 25
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>>152526027

yeah this one's a pretty easy pass
>up to five pulls

dena pls
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>>152524982
Fuck off with your shitposting you cum gargling little shit fag.
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>>152525714
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For an actual beginner is this new choice banner worth it? Which relic should be pulled?
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Is it a good idea to create and hone flare? I already got rank 3 meteor
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>Keeper's Choice
>Ramza's armor

Oh motherfucker, YES!
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>>152526763
>honing flare
>ever
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>>152526763
Lol no
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In FFVA, does the amount of damage Spellblade does change with each spell? (Fire, Fira, Firaga, etc.)
IIRC they all did the same damage in Bravely Default.
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>>152526642

eh. it's an easy way to get a medica if you've had back luck with those.

tailwind is a neat SB but the grand armor is not nearly as useful as a synergy weapon in some realm that has regular events

>>152526763

fuck no
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>>152526918
yes idiot. bravely default copied ff5 for that
>>
Something fucky is going on in BE. Seems my exploration trophy progress is going up on its own. Last night I was at 767/1000, now I'm at 813/1000. I've done maybe 6 explorations since last night.

Does other people using my character on explorations count toward my progress or something? There's no way I've done that many explorations on my own.
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>>152527057
fuck off manel
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>>152526918

yeah, vs weakness it's 2x, 3x, 4x + death
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>>152525714
Don't forget the "we're going to include 'difficult to understand' parts of the Compilation" scandal
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>>152526918
Yes, but keep in mind that spellblade ONLY does extra damage against monsters weak to that element. Hitting something with say, a Firaga spellblade doesn't do any more damage than a normal attack unless that thing is weak to fire.

The exceptions to this is Flare, which quarters enemy defense no matter what.
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>>152527343
Yeah, because cramming a bunch of additional lines that doubles the length of the cutscenes is SUCH a great idea!
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>>152526986
I have relm's medica, and no hastegas should I wait and pull on the nightmare banner and see if I get a hastega or just grab a weapon from here?

As far as relics goes I only got Tyro's wall, selphie and relm's medica, lightning peacemaker and fran's traitor bow.

So what do you think is the best course of action here?
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>>152459623

You can since you had a dialogue option from Ignis asking if you want to drive this time. The thing about demons is correct though, the Iron Giant hits a lot harder and you won't skate by like in the Platinum demo based on what I saw, plus no Carbuncle or summon to help you in the beginning of the game.

The car does "stick" to the road in a sense, but the guy from GI playing the game said you can go offroad. I understand the decision because when you do fuck up the car, and you know people will, the tow and repair fees will likely be expensive. The autists who absolutely must smash the car will go in a rage about having to keep getting the car towed because they do something stupid, and I'd bet driving it into a lake will probably insta-kill you.
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>>152527136
Doesn't take much to trigger you, huh?
>>
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random

Go for it.
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>>152527914
>team full of fit guys who can teleport around easily
>if they drive into a lake they all just die

This doesn't make any sense.
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>>152527914
Oooor the fact that their will be either immense amounts of clipping or collison while in the wilderness.

>>152527769
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>>152527953
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kactuar_(Type-0)
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>>152528504
You guys ever notice that cactuars kinda look like swastikas
>>
>>152528638
Go away Hitler Jr. III
>>
>>152527953
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Crystal
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>>152528638

time to take a break from /pol/, buddy
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>>152525714
>Literally everyone saying that they just wanted an updated rerelease of the original with the same gameplay?

From a creator's standpoint, that is pretty boring to do all that work for essentially an upgraded remaster. But that is a conversation for another time.

That and before the remake came out and before we knew what the battle system looked like, people clamored for battles that not only looked like AC, but played as if you were controlling the characters themselves. Then when we got that, a shitstorm ensued. People are hypocritical, but also stupid. It's just partially fear that we'd never get turn based battles ever again if this style ends up well received.
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>>152528842
>comment that's existed for ages
>m-muh pol...
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What the fuck is this?
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>>152528887
>hypocritical
No, it's a large group of people with differing viewpoints, you fool.
>>
>>152527953
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Lucky_Girl
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>>152529147

it's zero energy, anon
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>>152528887
They got that with Dissidia and Crisis Core. If the battles followed the turn-based system, but had some better flow with the environment (Think Chrono Trigger or some of the segments from FFX) It might do better.

People who say that perfectly fine controls should be ditched are the reason we get shit like FFXIII and StarFox 0.
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>>152528048

Neither does doing enough quests during crisis events that the planet should have blown up several times over, but there you go.

>>152527769

To be fair, that is Kojima, known for cutscenes of such length you can use it as background noise while you cook.

That's pissing into an ocean of piss to add more.
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>Keeper's Choice has Tailwind
>But also has a weapon for Rinoa
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>>152529353
but "turn based" 7 was trash as far as gameplay
>>
>>152529796
>the game that captured the hearts and minds of millions of gamers was trash as far as gameplay

Yeah nah fuck off
>>
If I finish X should I play X-2 or nah? please explain your reasoning.
>>
>>152529925

he's right though. turns out that a generation of twelve-year-olds who've never played a video game before are easy to impress.
>>
>>152529796
It was buggy and primative. A re-release with better graphics and more stable code would feel great.

Materia system, WAIT bar that lets you set turns in advance, and AC-level visuals would be fuckin' awesome.
>>
>>152529925
Except it was trash. FFVII basically had FFIs battle system just on a 3D plane. The only depth came in the materia system which homogenized the entire cast without having true build systems that the job system allows.

They stripped away all of the improvements made during the SNES FFs resulting in what was essentially the FF equivalent of what Bethesda did to Elder Scrolls with Skyrim.

There's a reason why the random mini-games are some of the most well loved parts of FF7 alongside set pieces that you don't actually play.
>>
>>152529158

Saying specifically that you want an action oriented style, and then complaining about it then being action oriented isn't hypocritical?

A differing viewpoint would be if they specifically didn't say they wanted a style that suited an action rpg. Because again, that was one of the big wishes made of Advent Children back then, that a remake of 7 would be made that suited that idea of the cast doing crazy ass moves with modern graphics that you could control in a free environment. There were very few who wanted JUST a remake with no change but modern graphics.
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>>152530275
>Guaranteed Replies.
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>>152530026
>only kids played 7 when it released
good meme
>>
>>152530352
But people HATED Dirge of Cerberus, proving your point completely wrong.
>>
>>152530086
>the same game with qol improvements
wut is wrong with you nerds
>>
Ok I think I'm gonna leave for a while, call me back when the shitposting dies down
>>
>>152529147
just noticed that I also got one
does it do anything?
>>
>Keeper's Choice Vol.1 is until July 31, 2017
Does this mean Vol.2 won't be out until that time?
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>>152530741
Yeah my dude I can't stand it when there's a discussion in the thread. Only better when people are trying to bump the thread with their epic memes
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>>152530796
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>>152530756
Tyro's Beginner choice is still available despite the release of the superior Tyro Vol 1, so I'm gonna say it has nothing to do with Vol 2.
>>
>>152529963
don't think too much about the story and just enjoy the gameplay
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>>152530751
Gives you 0 engery
>>
>>152530913
just what I needed
thx gumi
>>
>>152530643
Because FFVII is the game that most desperately needs a graphical update. Popeye the Sailor Cloud makes people who have never played the game laugh at it.

I'm not saying it should be a shot-for-shot remake, but retaining the battle system that lets you have total control of your party at all times (Something FFXIII has never lived down after they dropped the ball on it) along with the customization would make it feel more like the original.

Literally every FF remake until now has, for the most part, retained the playstyle of the original without changing the battle system at all.
>>
>>152530756
which relic should I get? I haven't got any of the choices they give. I only got Faris, Garnet and Ashe unlocked so far.
>>
>>152530352
>some want action
>others want minimal changes
Wow so hard to wrap your head around.
>>
>>152529353
>perfectly fine controls
>if it aint broke dont fix it mentality in a series constantly trying to change in every way with each game
>>>/vr/
>>
>>152529353

I have no issue with turn based gameplay as a series vet, but I didn't raise a stink about it. I'd have to wait and play it myself to see how things go. I'd be interested to see how they could unbreak the broken shit with some Materia and certain items. Oh won't that be a joy to discuss.

Also, XIII still had battle happen in a closed environment while also giving the sense of scale, but I can understand if the paradigm system didn't take with people. Took me awhile too. I helped a friend write a guide for the break levels of all the monsters when the game came out. Lots of fun there, but it helped me learn and master the system.
>>
Fuck this BE event, I have 100% crash rate at ainsel fight, sometimes more then once
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So I've maxed

Tellah
Lenna
Krile
Shantotto

and I'm in the process of maxing Lasswell

What's my biggest weakness and what should I be looking to do next to make my team better?
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>>152527783
>wall and medica
Just get Shout as your RW and you are ready for everthing. The hastegas from this banner aren't that good (especially considering the price).

>>152529780
Pulling twice will give you two relics of your choice, right?
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>>152531290
>REMAKE

How many remakes can you name that severely altered their gameplay and wound up better for it can you name? Even the REmake kept its tank controls.
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>>152529780
>not pulling 3 times, and taking Rinoa's weapon for all three choices to give your waifu a 7*
typical Rinoa fan
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>>152531167
Yeah, and them not changing hasn't really done them many favors. FF is dying. And not only because of 13.
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>>152531167
>Literally every FF remake until now
everyone laugh at him
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>>152531397
Yeah, but I only have 25 mythril currently.
I've only been doing the quick and easy missions of the realm events and orbfest lately.

>>152531558
If i had the mythril I would.
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>>152531042
It's your reward for being a good goy.
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>>152531571
13 certainly helped. People felt the system deviated too far from how Final Fantasy should be played; removing control and strategies from the player, limiting exploration, and knuckling down on customization or grinding, something many cite as Squeenix losing their way.
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>>152531397
Even though I have wall and medica, in difficulty 120-140 (+, ++) I really struggle, in the XII event I couldn't clear Gabranth even though I could last until about 30% of his HP using tauntiliate Basch, It always feels like I have no damage to finish it. And being forced into attacking retaliator makes it shit to even charge Fran's Mistoverload.

Recently I just unlocked Tyro's Dr.Mog Teaching, so I guess that will help a little to start with wall up, but doesn't solve my damage problem.
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>>152531627
Don't worry anon, I have the perfect solution for your problem, kupo!
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>>152531770
5* abilities fix your damage problem. bare minimum r2, r3 to be comfortable.
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>>152531307
Your biggest weakness comes from a terrible team setup. You need at least one of the top tiers or future proof characters for later content. Only Tellah/Lenna/Krile have any future and they are mediocre for future content aside from storyline.
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>>152531749
>removing strategy

top kek, now I can tell you're just a 7 apologist
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>>152531881
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>>152531490

Correction, it kept tank controls as an option. Making things more optional is well and good, but not feasible here. Also for that example, that remake was literally a remake, because not only are the graphic style more suited to RE4 style and beyond, but the combat is too. It's not like it was just untouched and made modern.
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301st eternal reminder that Terra is best girl
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Thanks gumi
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>>152532032
I thought Tellah and Lenna and also Krile were all top tier for their role?

Tellah does excellent magic damage, Lenna is a great healer and Krile can dualcast heals or status effect spells as well as throw some offensive magic if need be.

Shantotto pairs well with Tellah I thought for lots of magic damage.

What makes my characters not viable?
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>>152531923
Maybe I'll get a couple out of this orbfest went it ends, but everywhere I've read the advice was to fully ignore 5* abilities and instead have R4-5 3*s / R3 4*s and to break down the majors to achieve it. I haven't done any of that yet, but I am unsure what you got in mind exactly.
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>>152531749
>removing control and strategy
I felt there was more of this in XIII than any PSX era FF.
>limiting exploration
agreed, gran pulse needed to be 3x bigger and more interesting to justify the linearity before it
>customization
this has been getting better and better with 12 and 13.
>grinding
terrible aspect of any and all rpgs. are you bemoaning the fact this is going away? i dont understand
>SE losing their way
meme
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>>152532091
The core survival elements, need to conserve ammunition, tight corridors, haunting atmosphere, and all of the things the action heavy RE5 threw away are considered many of the strengths of the REmake. They threw in some surprises, but everything else is classic Resi.
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>>152531749
>over 11 million copies sold worldwide
>13 literally KILLED final fantasy
>the same exact 11 million that VII sold from 1997 to 2016
Anon, please stop pulling "facts" out of your ass.
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>>152532225
you thought wrong, except for lenna
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>>152532225
They only max out at 5*. The 6* characters have sheer stats and abilities that make them broken compared to the 5* maxes. Shantotto is only used for her TM since she maxes at 4*.

You are looking for someone like Cecil/WoL/Garland/CoD/Exdeath/Bartz/Firion/Chizuru in your initial draws. They all get 6* forms which means that they have strong potential.
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>>152532126
Vekrd uh, acbanyhuh vun myto oui muja U cu silr.
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>>152531881
>think about buying an 11 pull
>remember it's 30 literal dollars

fucking jews
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>>152532276
>Removing control
You control only one party member and have tenuous control over your partner AIs. You cannot cook up unique ability combinations or even steal items.

>Customization
12 had great customization since you can fully program the AI and give each character a unique ability and equipment loadout, with tons of room to experiment. 13 has none of that.

>Grinding
FFXIII has a place where you are literally supposed to grind your way out. I'm talking about the EXP cap. In other FF games, you can pop on a movie, level grind, steal some good items, and overpower the game should you feel so inclined. Not so in FF13.

>>152532520
>11 milion copies sold.
Speaking of ass-pulling.
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>>152532091
This, but also, there is no way that SE was going to simply update graphics and release the way they did with X or are doing now with XII. Those games hardly justify the "remake" title in the first place and a true remake involves exactly what Square is doing now--totally working from the ground up to do things they couldn't before. It's pretty much what we could expect from Square. They don't like doing the same game twice.
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>>152533008
As of January 2013, the game has sold over 6.6 million copies worldwide. In September 2014, Square Enix announced the Final Fantasy XIII series has been widely successful and has shipped over 11 million copies worldwide.
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>>152533008
If you're not going to believe numbers given by SE, then you shouldn't even argue. Or you're implying your asspull is more believable than data released by SE?
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>>152532732
>>152532642

When will those units be able to awaken to 6*?
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>>152533075
>>152533148

>Series.
>SERIES
>As in all three games across multiple platforms.
>Still unable to stand up to FFVII and FFX's sales ON THEIR OWN on a single platform.

Pull the other one.
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>>152533337
actually FF7 has only sold around 10 million today, even across all its various platforms
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>>152533337
epic meme dude. Has any other final fantasy sold anywhere near that amount?
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Ok Edward mastered song of swiftness so I got to swap out his RW weapon, how's this for a RW?
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>>152533337
You know, same can be said about VII, it was rereleased and polished multiple times, with a shitton of platforms to bring to new generations.

So the argument goes both ways.
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>>152532427

They kept the atmosphere of the past and added the more interactive style of the combat of RE4 and beyond. And it worked. I also appreciate Jill's sweet ass. If there is anything Capcom does get right, it's giving glory to the booty. Square better give me tight Tifa abs and butt, or I'll riot!

My point was that they didn't need to not touch it to make it decent. Whether that happens with 7 Remake remains to be seen.
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>>152532240
largely depends on your relics, but...
I often use Full Break and Saint's Cross. Lifesiphon could be good as an r3 or r4 if you have a couple of characters that can use it + have a good SB.
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>>152533505
Shit but better than what you showed last time.
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>>152533571
>Square better give me tight Tifa abs and butt, or I'll riot!

Honestly the main reason I'm excited for the remake
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>>152533441
That's still a single fucking game. FFXIII has to pile on its sequels to even come close. And FFX beats them both.

>>152533465
FFVII, FFX, FFVIII. All outsold FF13.
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>>152533164
None of the units you have posted have the ability to awaken to a 6* form except maybe Lenna if the datamining from the JP version is true and she gets the 6* upgrade. But a good healer doesn't make/carry the team.

You should reroll for a better team that includes one of WoL/Garland/Firion/CoD/Cecil/Bartz/Exdeath/Chizuru. Get one of those listed units and then you can slowly acquire better units with more lapis/tickets.
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>>152533646
Look this general said I should use Edward for my RW when I asked with all my relics showing
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>>152533685
He's asking when senpai.

The answer is we don't know for global.
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>>152533742
And you should. Doesn't mean your mind # ain't shit.
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Lads I fell for the Keeper's Choice meme and got an Organics and Defender out of it. What's the best free relic to get?

I'm in a tossup between the II, III, and X relics since I got Grand Armor from the FFT event. If it's any help I'm gearing for Cid Missions.

Dancing Dagger:
>literally II synergy
>not having to bring Shellga is nice I guess

Holy Wand:
>it's a medica
>it's a III medica holy fuck
>I already have Arc's SSB

Lullaby Rod:
>X is probably my worst realm for synergy, I luckshitted that BFA CM
>X is super common synergy and I could leave this for later
>could be outdated, same with III
>fuck I need X synergy
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>>152533742
yeah sucks you started too late to actually enjoy this game.
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>>152533787
Well what would be a good Mind #?
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>>152533867
290+
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>>152533813
Hey I'm still having fun, since the guaranteed 5* are happening soon I'll be able to play without wanting to kill myself cause I went 0/11
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>>152531770
I was able to beat Gabranth and I only have wall, shell+regen+hastega, two melee SBs and one shitty magic SSB. No shout either, I used a BSB as a RW to compensate my lack of 4-5* R3 attack skills.
Tyro's RM3 is a life saver and will make your fights a lot easier. Get some lifesiphon for Lightning and try the fight again with that RM3 and a multi-hit BSB like Squall's or Cloud's, it isn't a hard boss.

>>152532240
You should work to get basic stuff like breakdowns and lifesiphon first. Depending of your party, work on other 3-4* abilities too (like banishing strike, armor strike, dismissal, drain blade and other spellblades, elemental dragoon jumps, Drainga, Ruinga and other 4* spells, etc).
Some 5* abilities will improve your damage a lot just at R2, but using only R2 abilities will obviously be a problem in long fight.
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>>152533685
>>152533782

I'm not overly convinced that 6* top tier units are required for an upcoming expansion, but I'm definitely not re-rolling lol
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>>152533990
On Edward's shitty Mind stat? As if.
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>>152533008
>unique ability combinations
Okay, this makes sense if we were comparing FFV or Tactics to XIII, but all games after that have similar or only slightly more freedom than XIII. Paradigm system allows for plenty of customization and there is nothing substantial lost by losing control over party members. I would rather have the AI follow my orders than to manage them all if it means increasing the speed of execution and play. XIII is a more flashy game than previous titles because of this lack of control (compare any Bart battle to VII's Jenova battles).

>Strategy
Games aren't hard enough to bother for casual play. Comparing the most difficult content, there is clearly more simliarities between XIII and XII than XIII and PSX FF.

Fully programmable AI would be ideal, I agree. As for equipment, I prefer XIII's system of synthesis groups, upgrades, and multiple accessory slots. How can you say that XIII has no room for customization when all of that exists?

>grind your way out
No, it doesn't. Not being able to overpower the whole game through a few hours of grinding is a GOOD thing.
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>>152533164
Some might never get 6* upgrades, some might take a long while - maybe not even until 7* upgrades come out

the way Square/Alim/Gumi make money off of the game is by getting people to try to pull for exceptional units, and if every unit could be 6* then there would be no reason to hold out or spend money on any
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>>152534128
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>>152533673
more

>Honestly the main reason I'm excited for the remake
I voted for Bayonetta in the Smash Bros. poll 4 or 5 times because I wanted more porn of her.
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>>152534132
Yeah I kind of figured that.

But does everyone just keep re-rolling and hoping to start with an unreal team rather than try to pull good units?

I kind of like trying to pull them. My question originally was asking to identify my weakest point in my team in an effort to make it better.
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>>152533675

Guys, pls.

There are franchises whose developers would kill or offer free blowjobs for life to be assured of even 1 million copies sold.

Can we not join hands as brothers and be glad for once, divided as we may be in opinions?
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>>152534262
Hoo boy, I'm sure there'll be tons of Tifa porn when (if?) the remake hits.
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>>152534342
>Lightning Returns couldn't break 1 mil.

Nigga...
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>>152533505
Don't worry about it too much, dude. Your own RW hardly matters.

Just keep building your team.
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I actually had to look at Edward's stats, son of a bitch has a literal 1* mind stat, and yet song of swiftness runs off of it. Yeah that magic meta is really gonna be useful someday if it hinges on this to be the magic shout
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Kreel or Kryle?
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>>152534080
>>152534317
You can clear storyline content just fine with that team. It's just events like the current vortex exploration that you will encounter some difficulties without having some top tier units. And you can't always rely on friend units to carry your team.

I certainly noticed a difference in power between the 4* Chizuru I'm using now and the 5* Lass that I was using before.

You just only need to roll one of those units I mentioned and then wait for banners to get new team members that will be better optimized for that role.
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>>152534520
cry-ill
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>>152534317
Your team is fine for any story content and probably the next few trials

as for weak points - you have no Cecil and you don't have a full break

you should look to replace Shantotto as soon as possible
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>>152533813
wtf is this dumb bs? manel?
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>>152534562
Okay, I'll just try to keep an eye on good banner events then. I didn't think this week's was very good and obviously I lucked out last week with Lenna and Tellah

But I've been farming this current vortex all day, I don't have any problems at all with the team I've got. What's the weak point of my team?

Like what unit should be replaced with what in order to make it have more potential?
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>>152534497
sheep song will save us from the edward nightmare in about a month.
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>>152534673
Shantoto is definitely a weak point
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>>152534673
Read>>152534625
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>>152534497
pro tip: base stats dont matter
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>>152534625
>>152534745

Ok cool, thanks. I was using her because Tellah is my most powerful character and she can chain cast with him all day, they both have 200+ MP.

I think Shantotto only has like 160 MAG though, Tellah is finally up over 200.


So basically try to pull a good, what, tank unit? And replace Shantotto with them
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>>152534131
FFVII had things like finding the Hardedge, getting Beta before entering the Mithril Cave, and grinding in Mideel with the Tiny Bronco, and other little quirks that give experienced and well-informed players some challenges to gain a leg up in the game and proceed through it more efficiently, something FF13's linear build and exp-cap prevent.
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>>152534393

>they keep the same interactive elements from XV in remake
>Tifa gets see through wet t-shirt when it rains, sweats if she runs for awhile

No if we get some character dialogue about it in game, they've sold me. They've ignored the SJW about Cindy(I still have to give Tabata props for laughing at people offended by Cindy in that one ATR) it has a good chance of happening.
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>>152534673
Replace Shantotto like this anon posted here said >>152534625. At this point lets see what you have total and I can attempt to make you a good team out of what you got.

I was in the same situation as you except for the Cecil/Exdeath start and then I got lucky with the last banner and rolled in a Tellah/Zidane/CoD/Lenna/Chizuru/WoL so now I have no dearth of units to use alongside Rain/Lass/Fina.
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>>152534874
of course.
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>>152534520
Kururu
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>>152534947
The Japanese know that SJW's don't buy video games, they just like shouting and asserting their will on whoever listens, but won't support them financially (See: Ghostbusters).
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>>152534520
Kryle
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>>152534883
People always talk about the hardedge but what about that staff in the abandoned train station that you can steal from the fucker who's in like a chariot, that's basically Aeriths' equivalent to the hardedge
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>>152534880
if you pull any good unit, replace Shantotto with them
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>>152534947
would be great
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>>152534978
You use Rain?
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I've only played 3, 5, and Bravely Default.
Of the first six games, which should I play next?
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>>152534874
>>152535040
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>>152533807
Dagger

you already have Arc's SSB

there are 100000000000 X events in the future and Yuna has approximately 10000 soul breaks herself, all of which are much better than a puny cura-level heal

in my opinion
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So is their anything worth getting off this Choice Soul Break banner?
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>>152535080
That, too. You only get to play with it for, like, five seconds, though. I also grab a ton of Carbon Bangles that last me clean until Cosmo Canyon.

That's my point, though. A lot of Final Fantasy games have early rewards for astute players in a way that FF13 just doesn't have for its first 20 hours.
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>>152535053
>>152534947
>le sjw boogeyman
back to /v/
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>>152535212
6
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>>152535251
yeah
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>>152535212
4
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>>152535335
>Le SJW Boogeyman
Again, see Ghostbusters.
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>>152535212
>Bravely Default
why doesn't anybody ever talk about the Bravely games here? they're just FF under a different name.
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>>152535482
because they're as short and boring as 4
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>>152535482
we do, there was a decent amount of discussion here in may when BS came out
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>>152535482
They're not good
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>>152535212
4 is considered the ultimate "Classic" Final Fantasy.

6 is more steampunky but is often considered the best pre-PSX Final Fantasy.
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>>152535541
>short
Bravely Default is 50-80 hours long retard
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>>152535165
When I had no other option but to use him, I did. He's not bad all things considered due to being free and a 6* potential unit. He gets Undermine(Full Break with a higher damage multiplier) and Leadership which is Cheer and Focus in a single buff that is slightly cheaper than the cost of one of them all in his 6* form. He's like a disco Cecil/WoL if you don't have either of them. I'll still use him for storyline content and awaken him to 6* max, but as of for optional events like the abyss exploration vortex, he is replaced by all intents and purposes by WoL/Cecil.
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>>152535676
Sure if you spend a few weeks grinding
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>>152534520

carl
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>>152535650
>recommending X first

Stop doing this, we already explained ad nauseum why it's a bad recommendation.
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>>152535650
This chart is so fucking retarded. It has to be the work of Reddit.
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>>152535650
>more emphasis on story telling goes to XIII
>XIII's story sucked
>more emphasis on gameplay goes to XII
>XII's gameplay sucked
l o l
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>>152535679

So is the main problem with my party that Shantotto's stats are too low for upcoming content then?
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>>152536047
Low stats and lack of great abilities. The top tier mages have a spell or two that's very strong and their bread and butter. Shantotto doesn't really have anything like that.
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>>152531241
Only pull if you really desperate for Synergy/CM since most of the relics are outdated.

Reminder Celerity Nightmare Lucky Draw is supposedly in 2 days.
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>>152535817
>Don't play the best-selling Final Fantasy first.
You have got to be trolling.
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>>152536136
ah yes, everyone should start with x and move onto xiii, then go to vii
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>>152535650

Man, the series has captured every trope imaginable.

Only thing missing is a biological sci-fi thriller, but Square already made Parasite Eve.

I want more Square, Aya is probably the cutest and yet hottest girl you have ever made, next to a certain raven haired girl
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>>152536264
>biological sci-fi thriller
Isn't there plenty of that in VII?
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>>152536264
>Biological Sci-fi Thriller.

That would be 7, my friend.
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>>152536264
You'll take your The Third Birthday and like it, bitch.
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>>152535295
Dude, at this point it sounds like you're just making shit up. I get some people may not like XIII but saying that there is no opportunity for "astute players" to get a leg up in the game is either a blatant lie or you are ignorant about how much you are rewarded for knowledge in XIII. Some people still dont know what a paradigm cancel is or how to perform one which makes it unbearable to hear them talk about XIII like it has no depth (Jewtubers mainly but here's one on the chan right now).
>>
le
>run into a problem so you talk to Cid (aka The Man Who Fixes Literally Everything)
meme
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>>152536226
Actually, it would be X, VII, VIII, Then XIII.
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>>152536119
Ok, thanks dude.


I was mainly using her to compliment Tellah's casting. I just find that the DPS of 2-3 mage's all casting 'aga spells seems huge.
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>>152536419
The OVA reveals that Cid dies of natural causes shortly after the events of V
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>>152536453
Literally nothing wrong with this order of play for a first timer.
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>>152536119
And even then Exdeath doesn't get anything great until his 6* other than the base elemental -aga spells and MAG+30% and Auto-Regen. When his 6* becomes available, Exdeath becomes the VOID TREE OF DESTRUCTION between his Dark Holy(which somehow does Holy Elemental damage)/Meteor/Dual Black Magic.
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>>152536297

Jenova is more mystic oriented, and Geostigma was the planet burping up mystic aids thanks to Jenova iirc, without much of the pseudo sciency parts you got with PE. Plus cop/special agent drama.
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>>152536375
>Utilizing glitches to add depth.
>Trying to use that to measure up to the glitch rabbit-hole that is VII.
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>>152533075
>shipped
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Anyone using growstars in Mobius? I think I might need to use the two I have if I want to tier2 the tower event, but I have no idea when/if strictly better cards are coming.
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>>152537060
I'm saving mine since 3* is good enough to beat content tight now. Also waiting for the next job update to do my first pull.
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>>152536670
Jenova is the source of all of the body-horror in the game, though. The Sunken Gelnika, Helletic Hojo, Lost Number, Mako mutants, etc. There's plenty of bio-horror in 7.
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>>152536674
>glitch
confirmed for jon snow
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>>152535482
Because they're not.
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>>152537416
paradigm cancel is clearly not intended by the developers
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>>152537482
And why is that? The only real reason would be a slightly different battle system due to Brave/Default.
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Speaking of rpgs how is I Am Setsuna?
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>>152538202
Disappointing.
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>>152538246

aw, is the atmosphere at least nice?
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>>152538202
Too-linear especially with how they marketed it that it's made by Chrono Trigger Team.
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>>152538202
Bad. It's a generic RPG with severe environmental problems (the entire game takes place in a snowy wasteland, yes the entire game) and repetitive soundtrack. The Chrono Trigger influence is barely there, despite being a bullet point they were selling it on.
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>>152537267
I did a couple of pulls now just because of there being a limited pool to pull from. I just beat the 50th floor of the event, and might 4* the sylph card for grinding. Generally, I think the single target and large aoe cards are pretty good.
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>>152443326
>playin with these names
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>>152538461
I guess by "Inspired by Chrono Trigger" they meant "We looked at the poster".
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>>152443326
You'd better name the Magus Sisters "Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup".
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>>152537280

7 was good, don't get me wrong, but PE was special.

You got your quirky nerd scientist, a good non-romantic partnership, and enough fake bio-techno babble to keep my geek heart happy. I remember the fun my Biology teacher and I had about the game. It's a series that had a decent drama not unlike a cop drama but also was an rpg. Should be a mess, but it worked.
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>>152538461
>severe environmental problems (the entire game takes place in a snowy wasteland, yes the entire game)
I don't see anything wrong with this. Most parts of Wild Arms series also takes places in wasteland.
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>>152539356
>I remember the fun my Biology teacher and I
Did you guys did anything romantic or sexual?
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>>152539589
It's not that big of a problem, but some variety would be nice. Especially when looking at the Chrono Trigger comparisons; that game had a vast array of areas. I know it's a bit unfair to compare it to CT, but the developers seem to want to draw parallels.
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>Keeper's Choice lasts for almost a whole year

Maybe I'll wait for guaranteed 5* first before I pull.
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Okay, guys, it's finished. Just have fun and dont get butthurt and follow the rules.

This is the RK char ranking survey, btw. The next one will have the expected 1-5 rating system. Cant be bothered to do it for all characters because too many of them are ass.

Let me know if I messed up somewhere, this is the first time i made a google survey.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNq5Vu-Mz1gVLF8khb2_T27ERXrWuArmpsRQEVBxnlkfXR-g/viewform
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>>152540601
fuck off to reddit with your reddit survey
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>>152540731
hello manel
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Any suggestions for the Hasmal U fight? Only relics I have is Penelo's cura + mini boost, and a XIII dagger that gives protect. Do I just want to RW shout anyway, or would divine guardian be better?
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For those curious Tyro selection banner vol 2 banner relics:

Squall BSSB "Lion's Roar" 4xAoE ranged physical dmg, Burst Mode
Terra BSSB "Esper Blood" 5xAoE Non-ele magic dmg, Burst Mode
Ramza SSB "Shout" Party Haste and ATK+50%
Auron SSB "Banishing Blade" 5xST ranged physical dmg, enemy ATK+DEF -50%
Vanille SSB "Miracle Prayer" Medica h85 and Pseudo Ether 1
Bartz SSB "Trueblade of Legend" 5xST physical dmg, party DEF +50%
Tyro SB "Sentinel Grimoire" Party DEF+RES +200%

And the selection relics, shared sb and stat sticks:

[FFI] Diamond Shield - Protectga
[FFII] Ice Bracer - Small Ice resistance up
[FFIII] Scholar Hat - Medica h35
[FFIV] Dragon Gloves - Firewrym Breath, Small Fire resistance up
[FFV] Gaia Vest - Medica h35, Slight Earth dmg up
[FFVI] Oath Veil - Slight Wind dmg up
[FFVII] Edincoat - None
[FFVIII] Esthar Bracers - Medica h35
[FFIX] Red Cap - Attack Boost, Slight Fire dmg up
[FFX] Red Armlet - Slight Fire dmg up
[FFXII] Armguard - Small Instant Death resistance
[FFXIII] Tungsten Bangle Medica h35
[FFXIV] Noble's Armguards - None
[FFT] Chameleon Robe - Small Instant Death resistance
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>>152541183
Does this happen after we get guaranteed 5*?
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>>152541060
Who else are you using, what skills?
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>>152541597

Yes
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>>152541643
The risk of missing 60 stamina of major orbs makes me want to not even attempt this.
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>>152541183

And the just released Tyro vol 3. banner relics:

Tidus BSSB "Abes' All-star" 5xAoE ranged Water physical dmg, EnWater, Burst Mode
Lightning BSSB "Requiem of the Goddess" 7xST physical dmg, Burst Mode
Celes BSSB "Maria's Song" Party ATK/MAG +30%, EnHoly, Burst Mode
Krile SSB "Sheep Song" Party MAG +30%, Haste and High Regen
Ramza SSB "Shout" Party ATK +50% and Haste
Rosa SSB "Divine Heal" Medica (h85) and party Magic Blink
Fran SSB "Mist Overload" 7xST ranged physical dmg, enemy Full Breakdown
Tyro SB "Sentinel's Grimoire" Party DEF/RES +200%
Basch SB "Apocalypse Shield" Party ATK/DEF 30%

Selection relics:

Sephiroth SB "Nibelhelm Nightmare" 4xAoE ranged Fire physical dmg, EnFire
Squall SB "Mystic Flurry" 5xST ranged Ice physical dmg, EnIce
Desch SB "Bolt of the Ancients" 4xAoE Lightning magic dmg, EnLightning
Lightning SB "Stormborn" EnLightning
Rinoa SB "The Brothers" 3xAoE Earth magic dmg, EnEarth
Bartz SB "Choco Romp" 5xAoE ranged Wind physical dmg, EnWind
Cloud SB "Climhazzard" 7xST Wind physical dmg, EnWind
Yuna SB "Farplane Wind" 3xST Holy White magic dmg, EnHoly
Exdeath SB "Dark Earth Shaker" 3xST Dark magic dmg, EnDark
Kuja SB "Dread of Death" 4xAoE Dark magic dmg, EnDark
Gabranth SB "Enrage" 6xST Dark physical dmg, EnDark

so yeah dont pull on vol 1 imo
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>>152542156
>>152541183
Which one should I pull on, I've already got Rosa's SSB so I don't want to risk getting it a second time, but Vol 3 has such other cool shit it's tempting
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>>152542156
I'll definitely pull on this one when we get it.
Just so I can have a 7* Party Dress
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>>152542156
A guaranteed relic for Lightning-sama!
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>>152542268

Its going to be a couple of months till vol 2 and even longer till vol 3 so just see what gaps you could fill in when the time comes.
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>>152540601
dont see this going too well desu
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>>152541917
no
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>>152542867
How about now?
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>>152542932
fuck off before i get the toblerone out
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>>152542996
First off, I'm not a lightning fag, I just pulled her SSB on the lucky banner, and second of all, these five girls are the only useable girls I have so team Q-T is kinda limited
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Best place to grind exp in BE?
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>>152543126
In that case, then it's still a no. Your party members are a bit mismatched.
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>>152543126
You're not funny; can you just stop?
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>>152542747
why is that?
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>>152543538
And you're just sad, learn to lighten up,
have some fun with the game, it's what I do
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>people still bring their "A" team and don't just make teams to clear cid missions
lel
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>>152543538
i think he's funny actually

you guys need to get a sense of humor
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>>152543653
>implying any of my characters are anywhere near strong enough to clear cid missions
Jokes on you
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>>152543285
If you've got friend units who can clear the ADV vortex, do that with a single unit.

I've been dragging an under leveled unit along with me to the event vortex, which gives pretty good exp. But my team is Cecil/CoD/Lenna/Kefka, so they are easily carried.
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>>152542013
that's rough. have you tried using draw fire to lower his physical damage?
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>>152543285
Current abyss vortex exploration is the best right now. Chance for a Gigantuar from the first area + 76 K EXP makes it the best for a while if you have a good party. And you are grinding mats for Stonra Blade and HP+15% that way.

Otherwise ADV vortex for solo characters with a good friend unit. Look for Chizus that have 320+ ATK.

Right now I am grinding my CoD/Chizu/WoL with the Abyss vortex while giving the Gigantuars to Lenna to get her up in levels. Though I have to take a break from that due to needing mats for awakening them soon, especially Chizu to get her up to 300+ ATK.
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>>152543653
Cid missions are barely worth it. 1 major orb isn't worth building a team/drawing for relic synergy.
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>>152545243
>the only content that even comes close to challenging isn't worth it
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>>152545243
You don't really need many relics for Cid's Missions. For a player with good hones who's been leveling characters from every realm during fests and shit (and has probably pulled at least some synergy for most realms except like, I, II and III) there's no reason not to do Cid's Missions. You don't even need a team of level 80 characters or anything.
>team building
team building isn't exactly hard when you're so limited with which characters you can bring.
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>>152545351
Just because something is "challenging" doesn't make it worth running.
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>>152545597
then the game is ridiculously boringly easy and not worth playing
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>>152545597
The challenge is worth it for its own sake.
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>purchase $5 worth of lapis
>get works but get a purchase cancelled message
>money taken out of my account
>no lapis

now what
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>>152545652
>tell that to non-DS IV players
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>>152545750
have you considered asking support instead of fucking /ffg/ of all things?
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>>152545750
>spending money on mobile games
lol
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>>152545820

it says I need a receipt but I've received no such thing
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>>152545750
restart ur game it'll appear happened to me

force close it then reopen that is
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Holy shit trust farming is so awful
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>>152545885
I'm calling bullshit on this. If your money was spent, Google sent you a play store receipt. I can only assume Apple would do the same if you're an iOS user.
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>>152545957
>Medius
but why
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>>152545652
Subjective, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Some people may find the challenge too much, unfair, boring, inappropriate, it may make them anxious or any number of reasons. Hardly worth discussing.

>>152545653
Look challenge isn't worth thinking about; what's important is your enjoyment. You don't want a fifty-dollar haircut on a fifty-cent head.
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>>152546087
He's one of my favorite sprites. I just want his tm since I drew 2 of him.
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>>152546216
yeah, because slapping down sentinel's grimoire and putting shout up every U+ for easy wins sure is entertaining
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>>152546216
>what's important is your enjoyment
Well yeah, but because I'm not a drooling retard I enjoy a bit of challenge.
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>>152546271
Would like him if only his pistols would stay normal and not become a fuckhuge gun.
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>>152545957
Wow, they weren't kidding when they said this game was ugly.
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>>152545957
That FFV BE anon would be so jealous of your account. You got all of the current FFV characters in BE.

Are you going to roll for Faris and Gilgamesh as well whenever the FFV banner arrives?
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>>152527914
>The car does "stick" to the road in a sense, but the guy from GI playing the game said you can go offroad.

Holy shit, seriously? I'm surprised.
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>>152546627
You know it i like ffv. Lenna is my waifu.
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>>152546621
It's a sprite based phone game blown to wide screen desu.
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>>152546291
I understand that early players have this conception that every player will be able to beat the Ultimate challenges of the game like so, but in a game of chance, that's unlikely to happen and just a small fraction of the active player base would even be able to pull that off.

So the ones clearing said content without those pieces of equipment may be enjoying themselves, trying to find ways to work around brutal encounters without equipment that wins the fight for them.

But hey, I'm not here to change your view on the game, just showing some perspective, think what you will.

>>152546303
But that's exactly what I implied, challenge is like fun, changes depending on the individual, I'm sure there are people out there that thing you're a massive fucking retard for thinking something like this in challenging (No offense, just perpesctive) and yet here we are talking about something that changes too windly to be discussed objectively.
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>>152546838
I got all of the current FFIV characters in my account. The only ones I am missing from that is Rosa/Edge/DK Cecil but I don't want DK Cecil since he's actually just as bad as Lasswell, despite the good TM.
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>>152545983

haven't received an email receipt yet and money was taken

send help
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>>152547093
DK Cecil could be good if only all of his skills won't basically kill him desu.
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>>152547156
well that sucks. you should e-mail support anyway as well as Google or Apple depending on what platform you're on.
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>>152547275
thanks mom
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>>152547541
I'll show you who's your mom *unzips dick*
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Any good FF mobages that isn't All The Bravest?
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>>152548614
Record Keeper
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>>152548614
No. All the Bravest is the pinnacle of mobile Final Fantasy
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>>152548614
no
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>>152548614
the current top three are probably record keeper, brave exvius, and mobius.that is if you're referring to f2p mobages. FFIX android is a pretty good port if you want to buy one along with FFIII and FFIV.
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>>152545957
you'll get there soon enough
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>>152548614
>still playing ATB

get with the times gramps
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>>152548614
R E C O R D K E E P E R
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>>152505418
For what is worth, I see what you mean now. Monks are slow as shit and generally allows the enemy to get an entire barrage of attacks off before I get to attack. ninja/rapid fire allowed none of that shit
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>>152548921
>zidane
>94.2
>mfw i still have no zidane
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>>>/tv/73491587
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>>152549481
What does this have to do with FF?
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>>152549615
More Final Fantasy movies, series and apple pod games!
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>>152549204
I feel your pain
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>>152549661
yeah i'm sure it's a legit source man.
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>>152549661
nothing there says anything even remotely like that
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>don't want to do the BE event since the rewards are marginal and it's really grindy
>all my main team is max level and I even leveled up the shitters like Rain and Lasswell to prepare for later
>this banner is garbage so I'm not pulling
>only thing to do is grind mats for hero rings

Ah...the lazy days of summer
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>>152549661
it only mentions deus ex though
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Are the spellblade skills even worth using in BE?
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>>152550941
no. hybrid damage is fucking trash
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Why are you guys voting for Firion in the survey? Explain yourselves or I'm tossing these suspicious as hell votes.
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>>152551396
You didn't say I could not vote more than once.
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>>152551396
We love Firion
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>>152551396
who?
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>>152551598
Absolutely rude, anon. I can include him in the next round if you want but don't duplicate your votes or I'll have to remove them all.
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>>152551396
His MC2 RM is pretty great.
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>Osmose
>Osmose
>Osmose
>Guess what? MORE OSMOSE
Does this guy do anything else at all? I almost wanted to wait and see if something triggers when the party as a whole had no MP, but I didn't want to chance some bullshit one-shot mechanic.
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>>152552089
I didn't specify it this time because it's more of a test, but in the next round I'd like participants to only consider usefulness and likelihood of use in battle for CM or for A-Team U and U+ content.

Stuff like RMs is not what I intended the survey to represent, but it's not a big deal.
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this survey shit is dumb anyway
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Please give more dunes in BE.
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>>152552318
you're dumb.
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>>152552626
Wish granted?
Now to hope I can get a good pull before then, otherwise I need to get a couple more sacred crystals to 5* Lass, but at least I've got most of those facebook energy charges available for this.
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YES! Dirnado and the Cactuar Dunes. Soon Diabolos you will be mine alongside those Earrings and the MAG+10% recipe alongside new weapons for my guys. Also Lid is going to join soon.
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>>152553318
>Almost caught up
>Now going to be behind again
Oh well, if that Enhancer can be used by Krile that would be pretty nice to get since she's still doesn't really have any MAG boosting gear.
What will Diabolos be best on?
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>>152553496
He's a heavy caster type
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>>152553496
Diabolos is Ramuh tier in terms of stats given. However unlike Ramuh, Diabolos has useful things for physical warriors like Mug/Man Killer/Demon Killer. And remember whenever the Maxwell event falls that you need Diabolos.

So give Diabolos to your main caster or a physical warrior who would benefit from Man Eater/Demon Slayer.
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>>152553665
So basically, either Siren or Shiva get the boot, depending?

>>152553848
Well my current party is WoL/Lenna/Lass/Krile/Vivi so he'd be pretty alright on Lass, wouldn't he? Though I'd imagine he gets gravity stuff which might be pretty nice for Krile for dualcast fun. Vivi's the most replaceable right now, so he'd probably be fine with Ramuh
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>>152554234
Boot Siren for sure.
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finally
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>>152553496
Enhancer can be used by Krile, but do you really want to waste the Enhancer on Krile unless you really want that 23 MAG boost on her?

I might just go and give it to WoL who would like the offense boost. He doesn't care too much about the mag since Exdeath has the Rod of Gravity. And I have no one else to use the sword other than Rain/Lass/Cecil.

>>152554234
Boot Siren. You might want to use Lid if you keep to the casters since she comes with Focus.
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>>152554263
So pretty much, if I don't pull something good before then, I'm probably looking at something like this:
WoL: Golem
Lenna: Shiva
Krile: Diabolos
Lass: Ifrit
Vivi: Ramuh

Come to think of it, is this update going to come with any new characters?
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HE FELL FOR EVERY MEME IN THE BOOK THE MADMAN
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>>152554528
Looks good to me. I think we're getting Lid, who's a hybrid physical attacker/mage/minor healer
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>>152554528
Lid who is another freemium character like Rain/Lass/Fina. She's not great, but is good for a support for casters with Focus. And given that you seem to have a heavy focus on casters, Lid would work well on your team.
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>>152554523
Lid a new story character then?
I guess you're right about the Enhancer, I figured there was already a better option for WoL in physical damage. I guess I could pass it down to her later on if she's still around.

>>152554667
So kinda like Fina, but more offense oriented?

>>152554689
It's less a focus and more working with what the game has given me.
Who would I even pass off for her though, if I do use her?
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>>152554461
who?
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>>152554461
>Redhead with messy hair
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>>152554938
I'd say Fina is better than Lid. Lid's problem is in her hybridization: none of her stats are anywhere close to 100, even when level 80 and 5*. They all cap out at around 80. Fina's SPR is 101 and her MAG is 93 at the same threshold, so she's automatically much better at both healing and offensive magic.

Theoretically Lid helps a mage team more, since she has the magical equivalent of Cheer. It depends on your lineup.
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>>152554938
Lass sadly for you since Krile/Vivi seem to be your heavy hitters. And Focus is a skill that Lid learns that only Celes/Vaan up to this point has that buffs mages by 40% MAG/SPR making healers heal more and mages deal more damage.

>>152555218
Sakura when we reach the Mysidia content is in a similar boat to Lid with being a hybrid unit, however she comes with Double Black to make up for it alongside the ability to equip up to level 7 black meaning that Flare is good on her.
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>there are people actually asking whether to boot Siren or Shiva
Seriously? Even in the game itself you can see Siren has the worse stat spreads in the game and almost nothing good in terms of skills.
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>>152555218
>They all cap out at around 80.
Ouch.

>>152555384
5* doesn't do a lot for Lass then? Then again, most people mentioned Lass being alright mostly for being able to use Katanas and WoL can use those anyways.

>And Focus is a skill that Lid learns that only Celes/Vaan up to this point
Shiva has it too though. Well, baring me pulling a best mom or something, how would you recommend I move my espers around with trading Lass for her? I don't think I'd want to put Shiva on her since having Shiva on someone else would allow quicker buffing, but I dunno.
Maybe WoL/Ifrit, Lenna/Shiva, Lid/Golem, Vivi/Ramuh, Krile/Diabolos?
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What's the verdict on the Keeper's Choice banner? Maybe it's because I've been slighted one too many times by 0/11 pulls, but I'm planning on pulling this shit every time I have 75 mythril in stock. (or at least until I pull my last Maduin's Horn needed to make a 7*.) The question is what 5 relics do I choose?

Dancing Dagger - I already have Mighty Guard VIII so this is low on my priority list. FF2 synergy would be nice though.

Holy Wand - If I got this it would be mostly for the synergy. I have enough medicas desu.

White Dress - This is something I'm actually kind of excited for. Being able to free up TWO ability slots, allowing some offensive white magic use. Could be very good combined with Tailwind. Guaranteed I will pick one of these up.

Aevis Killer - I already have Yoichi's Bow for Faris, though I do like the effect of this SB slightly better. Low priority nonetheless.

Rising Sun - I have a 6* Wing Edge so this is very low priority. SB does not seem very powerful.

Diamond Pin - I already have Earth Ward for Ingus. That combined with the fact that barely anyone can equip this means that this can go straight into the trash.

Rising Sun - I think it would be pretty useful to have at least 1 MAG throwing weapon, so it has that going for it at least. I have Gaia Gear so I can boost the damage of the SB, too.

Asura's Rod - I do need synergy + the MAG boost looks kinda neat

Lullaby Rod - I already have one of these, I don't see much use in making it 6* or 7*

Demonsbane - I have one of these too, but unlike the previous item, I can see myself using a 6* or 7* MAG sword on a hybrid Physical/Magic character. Maybe pick this up as a 4th/5th relic?

Wyrmfang - I already have a MAG statstick for this realm so I don't really need the synergy, SB is trash too. Pass.

Yoshimitsu - I do need synergy for this realm, and the DEF lowering effect looks neat. Medium priority.

Grand Armor - Allows WHM to use utility SBs. Don't have a Ramza SB. Will pick up!
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>>152555605
should come as no surprise when these threads have been littered with team building spoonfeeding questions since rk
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>>152555965
It's basically telling me "Hey, build up and waste 150 mythril to get an outdated weapon to 7* because you have no control over your life"
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>>152555965
>tfw you already own the really interesting ones.

Should I buff one of them? Wat do? I thought Lightning had a weapon in this...
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>>152556362
Lightning's weapon is part of the actual banner itself, not the relic choice tied to it. So you're not guaranteed to get it.
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>>152555935
He has the same ATK base as WoL, except that WoL comes with Bladeblitz and Full Break instead of the terrible skills that Lass has. Keep WoL on Golem since he needs to draw attacks away from your squishier mages. Just use Ifrit on Lid and use her as a physical support to the mages with Raging Fist even if her offense is terrible.
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welp no more half price pulls till new banners.
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>>152542156
>>152541183
Do the 5 pulls get refreshed?
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>>152557185

Yes it was 3 pulls each for JP, probably continue to be 5 for us.
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How many times have you came to your avatar?
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>>152556914
>Keep WoL on Golem since he needs to draw attacks away from your squishier mages.
For a moment I thought you were talking about relying on WoL's Sentinel, but then I remembered Golem getting Provoke.
I should probably turn some attention to getting Golem to 2*. Most of my espers really, they're all ~12-14 currently.
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>>152557470
the fuck is this
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>>152557568
2* Golem also has Cover, so with it WoL is basically a better Cecil currently.

Also as long you're not attacking or using offensive skills, Sentinel will still proc.
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>>152557470
You're in the wrong thread. Discussing of FFXIV as a game is fine here, but FFXIV waifu-faggotry and erp shit goes in /xivg/.
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>>152557063
>is that a tear, I see?
she's actually mocking you
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>>152557568
I should put some attention to my Espers as well given that my Golem is only level 28 and needs those 2 levels to get to awaken to his 2 star form. The only awakened Espers I have are Ramuh and Ifrit. Shiva is also pretty much close to awakening as well at 27.

Grinding the Sacred Crystals for Chizuru/Lenna is a pain however. Have to wait for my Locke friends to refresh to get a good chance for Sacred Crystals to drop. I currently have 16 of them for Chizuru to awaken, but Lenna needs 9 more for her.
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>>152557470
You give FFXIV a bad name. I'd say you're doing so for your shit general too, but I don't think /xivg/'s reputation can get any lower.
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>>152555218
Stats have such an inconsequential effect on healing, it's ridiculous.

For Fina/Lid's case, a maxed out Fina without equipment would heal ~539 HP per cura.
Lid would heal for ~506 per turn.

Although equipment will broaden this difference a bit because of the exponential curve, it's still effectively irrelevant. That extra little bit of HP isn't going to save you from death.
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>>152558328
If you grind phantom forest for your espers, you WILL get lots of sacred crystals over time.

I've gotten 10 since fully awakening my Lenna, and I barely even play anymore.
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>>152558524
It only felt that way because you have no immediate need for them desu. Awakening INT is still the best place when you need to actually farm them because there is a chance you can get multiple in crystals in a run and the differences of stamina with Phantom Forest are minuscule anyway.
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>>152536264
And that's why the "fanbase" keeps tearing itself to pieces over muh true FF. The series has been everything from generic knights & dragons to sci-fi with machine gods. Trying to pigeon-hole it into some fantasy niche is just pointless.
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>>152558524
Why Phantom Forest for espers?

>>152558328
Yeah, I'm down to 3 currently. Was aiming to get Lass to 5*, but I may as well build up some more and save them to work on Lid after the patch.

>>152557736
The chance of Cover working seems really small, though I guess it and sentinel working means a good chance of taking hits.
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>>152558524
I do grind the Phantom Forest for the espers, but lately I have been suffering a dearth of Sacred Crystals. The Chimera doesn't seem to want to drop them.

At least with a Locke friend I have a decent chance of getting them to drop in the INT Awakening vortex.
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So this Keeper's Choice draw says Volume 1...

Do we no anything about Vol. 2? When it will be or what will be on it? 'cause I'm gonna have to save some mythril so I don't almost have a heart attack again scrolling down that list hoping I'm not missing a guaranteed Wall.
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>>152559312
you literally didn't even bother pressing ctrl + f and typing vol 2 you lazy fucking shit.
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>>152559312
oh, forgot to add. you're retarded if you think wall is ever going to be one of the guaranteed relic choices.
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>>152559407
You're right anon. I should have had more faith in ffg for the information to already be there, though dates are still vague.
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>>152555965
>Pulling on Keeper's Choice instead of going 0/11 on Lucky Draw in 2 days
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>>152560017
Which draw is it this time anyways?
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>>152560112

Celerity
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>>152560206
Oh good, I can safely ignore it.
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>>152560323

Theres some good shit on it including 5 bsb
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>>152545750
>paycucks
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NEW NEW

NEW NEW

NEW NEW

>>152561309
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>>152559269
>Why Phantom Forest for espers?
Have you ever played the game?

You get Green Megacite like candy. Enough to surpass every other method by at least twice over, except the chamber of crystals (which it only surpasses by a little bit less than twice over)
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>>152545750
Buy again. It'll say something like "we found a recent purchase".
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>>152548921
How'd you get them so high? I can barely stomach it anymore at 20 %
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